You can't hide a sword during a full search.
Agreed. That's what I was getting at with the "hiding a small object in plain sight"... A pat-down or a reasonably competent search turns all of your pockets, clothing and carrying cases into "plain sight", at least by my reasoning, it does. You might be able to sneak a switch-blade past that, but not a sword.
Retractable claws would give you a chance to get the equivalent of a sword past a pat-down, or a full search. It's a very situational benefit, but a concrete one.
But if you're carrying a weapon while walking down the street and you come across someone who tries to guess whether you're armed, you can use your Deceit. That's not a contrived scenario:
Agreed. And sometimes they don't even have to be trying to guess... maybe a not-quite-right-detail just happens to catch the eye of an observant passer by.
You can also BS your way past a search, but that's probably a different trapping.
Agreed. You're talking your way out of it, rather than trying to physically hide something.
Though distracting someone properly could mess up a patdown.
Agreed... Invoking an aspect or using a complementary skill would cover that quite nicely.
They even mention that as a possibility in YS IIRC. Can't find it though, it was something about DISTRACTING BEAUTY. Sometimes I wish I had a searchable PDF, then I remember I could get one free and realize I can't be bothered.
YS20... They use one of two sample aspects called "Always Armed" or "Distracting Beauty" along with a fate point to make a declaration that the character is armed, after they've already been searched. A completely different, but absolutely nifty way of getting around searches.
PS: Personally, I'd say that a roll of 17 or so on Deceit could conceal an aircraft carrier. You just need to make sure that everyone looks in the exact opposite direction. Which is practically impossible, but only practically.
Yeah, see that's the sort of slippery slope I'm trying to avoid by using a little bit of common sense. Sure, there's ways to hide truly immense things, but It reminds me of times playing D20 games, when a player would say something like, "Ha! With all the extra bonuses, I just rolled a 67 to hide that aircraft carrier!" And when you'd try to get them to explain how they hid it, they'd reply, "I dunno... I rolled a 67."
I have no problem letting player-characters do extraordinary things, so long as they can come up with a reasonable (reasonable for the game, setting and genre, at least) explanation of how they're doing it... That gets them a chance to try, at least.
I think we're mostly on the same page here... We were just talking past each other.