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DF Spoilers / Re: The worst Crack Theory I could think of
« on: July 29, 2020, 03:18:01 PM »
I would have guessed Goodman Grey- he's more evil, more polite, and prefers tea to coffee.
I would assume Gray would be the surname, but we can compromise on him having an adopted British accent (because evil, duh) and drinking Earl Grey and going by Grossman Grey just to be contrary.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The worst Crack Theory I could think of
« on: July 29, 2020, 01:20:08 PM »
No, not Goodman Gray... His evil twin, Grossman Gray.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Raith Reservoir [Peace Talks Spoilers]
« on: July 29, 2020, 01:15:26 PM »
Probably not.

Sure, a wizard could probably make an item that accumulated emotions as magical energy and could release blasts of emotion - like Elaine's memory-storage ring in SK.

But wizards' ability to work with magical energy is much more "broad spectrum".

If Elaine made an emotion-storage ring instead of a memory-storage one, I don't think a WCV could feed on it.

Because I don't think the WCVs actually feed on emotions themselves - instead they use the emotion as a "conduit" to feed on life force. The WCV power is a lot more narrowly limited than the wizard's one, and I don't think it can interface with items.

I think there's just no way for them to get around the need to feed.
I'm willing to accept that you can't see it being viable, but I'm still not seeing *why* you think that.

Spellwork and enchanted items have been shown to store energy in specific forms that also retain emotional responses. 

Your take is that they need to feed on raw spiritual energy, which has been shown to be compatible with being bottled (belt buckle). It even invoked emotions, meaning it was 'flavored'.

You say they need the emotional aspect, but then you also say the emotional aspect doesn't really seem to matter. Like it's just a method for them to stoke the spirit and open the tap of the victim.

So if they don't need the emotional aspect, then the belt buckle would work for them as-is. It would just need to be designed to allow a wamp to draw on its energy, which I think could be done. If inanimate objects filled with power can hurt the wamp, like a True Love wedding ring, why can't inanimate objects filled with power be used to feed them? 

If they do need the emotion, then it's just a matter of capturing the essence of the method. I think we've seen several times how Harry will calm the mind or settle himself because his emotions can taint his spellwork.  So the wizard would have to design the item to do the opposite.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Raith Reservoir [Peace Talks Spoilers]
« on: July 29, 2020, 04:26:40 AM »
Well, that's not exactly what my issue with this is.

I am not convinced that there is really such a thing as "lust energy" in the Dresdenverse. I think the White Court Vampires use emotions* to access life force from a person/being. Not that the emotion itself is the energy.

Similarly with Sells, or Harry using his rage in a spell. When Harry does that it still draws on his own energy... Harry almost kills himself in GP with an anger fueled spell ("Pyrofuego") because he just about used up all his own life force.

The lust bit is not as central as it seems, Raith are not absolutely locked into feeding on just one emotion. (Madrigal Raith can use fear, from WN.) There's a WOJ that the Houses feeding on specific emotions is as much cultural/political as anything.

But I think you need life capable of emotions. I really doubt that Lara or Thomas could feed on, say, Sells' lake house.

See I'm not sure this is the right model (different kinds of stored energies).

I think the magical energy is just magical energy, all the same kind. The different items just use it in different ways. It's the same thing as how a computer and air conditioner and microwave and lightbulb all run on electricity, IMO.
Sure, but we've seen storage of energy retain the traits of the origin, like the sunlight in the hanky and the kinetic energy and any other spell or or potion Harry has made.  If the vessel were designed to store spirit energy in the form it was gathered, wouldn't it remain consumable?

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DF Spoilers / Re: The worst Crack Theory I could think of
« on: July 29, 2020, 04:21:07 AM »
Justin DuMorne.

Justine D. Mourn.

Maybe that's why we never learned her name?  Because it'd make it too obvious?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Gregory Cristos
« on: July 29, 2020, 04:04:11 AM »
Cristos (Christos) means "anointed" in Greek.  Gregorio means "watchful". So the translation would be "Watchful Anointed".  Probably an assumed name to invoke the idea of leadership and worthiness. More so than his birth name, which was Cowly McCowlface.  :P

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Well, 666 has an obvious presence in mythology.  But if that's the birth of a Starborn, then what's the adverse number associated with the defecation impacting the rotary air conditioner?

Harry's 39/40 right now in the series and things are really picking up.  Can we expect it to happen 42 years after the Alignment? (Since that happens to be the answer to life, the universe, everything?). Or is it variable on current conditions?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Raith Reservoir [Peace Talks Spoilers]
« on: July 29, 2020, 02:08:36 AM »
Something like that. Any mechanism that prevents the tank filling up in a manner that would make it better to just feed more than it would have an external reservoir. I'm not saying that's the case. I'm saying it's an additional practical concern regarding the feasibility of making a gas can.
Sure, but not by me. A thought occurs to me that the difference between one wamp and another might be about fuel efficiency instead of the tank's capacity. Both is more likely than either/or.
I think it works either way. 

We know that the "Hunger" of Wamps is variable, and how Lord Raith established dominance.  I don't think we know the exact nature of that, because we're used to thinking of hunger as a state rather than a force. 

Maybe the "Hunger" is equivalent to allure, and his ability to overwhelm the senses of others is his only advantage.  Maybe there's no top to the tank, and it can be infinite storage for any wamp.

But clearly it doesn't work that way, seeing how often Wamps run out.  Thomas has been drained numerous times, Lara's sisters needed immediate feeding after the battle with the Naagloshi, and Lara was spent after feeding Thomas.

Wamps just don't seem to have the ability to sustain their power without constant feeding.  Except for Lord Raith, who managed it for almost thirty years.

So I'd still argue that them having a snack pack in reserve would be valuable.

It's basic banking. You can keep all your money in your debit account, but if you do that, you might find yourself overdrafting due to poor budgeting and an untimely expense.

Putting some money into savings as you go might mean a little less to spend along the way, but over time you get used to the budget, and then if something happens, you've got a reserve to draw from.

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DF Spoilers / Re: why little or no ivy
« on: July 28, 2020, 12:30:32 PM »
And if Lucifer were in fact Nemfected, wouldn’t he argue?
Not countering, just adding. Aurora was infected and rebelled against the How Things Are Done.  So there's a precedent.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Raith Reservoir [Peace Talks Spoilers]
« on: July 28, 2020, 12:20:37 PM »
The argument being touted elsewhere is that Lara was weak and drained at the end of PT because her tank was empty because her tank isn't as big as Thomas's.

Otherwise there's not much explanation for her empty tank when she'd had an orgy and fed off a guard all within hours of feeding Thomas.  The only suitable explanation at that point would be that there's nearly 100% energy loss in their feedin nursing method.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Raith Reservoir [Peace Talks Spoilers]
« on: July 28, 2020, 03:46:52 AM »
Tank is an analogy for a WCV's store of energy. A gas can is something that one uses to fill a gas tank. In the analogy, a gas can would be the device you suggest. What I'm saying is that if a WCV cannot fill up his reservoir of energy, but just ad more and more as he feeds, then the gas can would be pointless.
A gas can wouldn't fill most tanks. But if the tank runs out, it can put some fuel in to keep it running until you can get it to the gas station.

What you're saying is that it'd do no good to put a couple gallons into a tank running on fumes, because what's the point if it can't fill it?  :o

Thomas's tank ran dry in PT, to the point that he was running on fumes. In this analogy, Lara managed to syphon gas from her own running car to put some gas in Thomas's tank to keep it running.  In the process she left herself running low on gas, either due to having a small tank herself, or spilling a lot in an unorthodox transfer method. 

What I'm proposing is a small gas can that's kept in the trunk, and if the tank gets low, then it can be used in an emergency.  And if Lara showed up with her own reserve, they could put even more in, to prevent Thomas's engine from dying.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Dresden Comicon@Home Tidbit for Battle Ground
« on: July 28, 2020, 03:37:11 AM »
Originally they may have been middle class. You seemed to have never lived in a shotgun house, which are quite common, at least in Louisville although they are found in Chicago.  The house may be no wider then 12 feet, with setbacks that would make the lots about 17 feet wide. I lived in houses which were separated by no more than than the walk that ran between the houses.  Variations on a theme, camel back, three or four  rooms down and one up.

A regulation basketball court is 94 feet long and 50 feet wide. Look at 3552 Winchester Ave in Chicago on street view, this is how I picture Harry's house.
Doesn't look like a traditional wood boarding house.

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DF Spoilers / Re: why little or no ivy
« on: July 28, 2020, 03:27:13 AM »
I thought there was a WoJ that the Fall was from an argument between TWG and Luci on how to address the Outsider issue. Or was that just more speculation?  I can't remember.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Raith Reservoir [Peace Talks Spoilers]
« on: July 28, 2020, 03:25:14 AM »
There's also the question of can WCVs fill their tanks. If they can't fill their tanks, they don't need a gas can.
What do you mean?  I think the item would be the source of the power and the wamp would feed from it. It wouldn't give the host the power for the demon to then feed from.  That probably wouldn't be healthy.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Why Conjouritis, Why??
« on: July 28, 2020, 03:20:02 AM »
Does he sneeze Sue into existence because he is reminded of Cowl’s blackout in Dead Beat and that would be a handy way to get around with no cars?
Would all the ectoplasm have to come out of his nose??

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