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DF Spoilers / Re: White Court, Venatori and Kemmler
« on: August 25, 2017, 03:50:06 PM »
Quote from: Quantus on August 24, 2017, 07:37:04 PM
This is simply incorrect in the Dresden Files.  Drakul and Dracula are two completely different people. Drakul doesnt have any connection to vampires at all (that we know of), rather his son Dracula specifically and intentionally Created the Black Court in the course of vague family Drama and daddy issues.

I think the relevant WOJ leaned pretty strongly in the direction that Vlad Dracula didn't intend on exactly the result he got by founding the Black Court. It wasn't explicit, but I got the sense he'd halfway flubbed an ascension ritual and turned himself into a monster rather than a minor god.

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DF Spoilers / Re: When is a Story not a Story?
« on: August 15, 2017, 03:00:02 PM »
Quote from: dspringer1 on August 10, 2017, 10:19:13 PM
JB has written several short stories since Skin Game and I am guessing he is using these stories to lay some groundwork.  This thread is devoted to guessing what those clues and factoids are.   If I remember correctly, we have the following short stories
•   Molly story where she travels to Alaska as Winter Lady
•   Luccio story set in the wild west
•   Butters story about a visit to the Zoo

Molly's story (Cold Case) was released after SG because the anthology it was in got delayed, but it was written earlier and set just about a week after CD.

So Carlos has had about 17 months more than just the SG-PT interval to recover from his injuries. He won't likely be back to fit for hand to hand combat yet, basic mobility is probably reasonable.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Movie's and Music to the Dresden Files.
« on: August 14, 2017, 02:58:45 PM »
Quote from: Con on August 13, 2017, 05:44:45 AM
There's bound to be one for Dead Beat as well, but I can't think of it.

The Maltese Falcon.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Marvra and Kemmler (Deadbeat)
« on: August 11, 2017, 03:56:56 AM »
Quote from: kazimmoinuddin on August 09, 2017, 04:47:06 AM
The thing is with such a limited number of elders, I doubt they would ever gather together as it would present too big a target. So it would be a big deal for them to do so.

Cough TUNGUSKA cough

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DF Spoilers / Re: Marvra and Kemmler (Deadbeat)
« on: August 04, 2017, 12:57:17 AM »
Quote from: kazimmoinuddin on August 03, 2017, 11:27:06 PM
The council expert on the vampire courts was killed, but I. Wonder what happened to his gathered lord. I could see mavra and cowl eager for the parts concerning the BCV, that combined with necromancy would have epic consequences.

I'm pretty sure "Cowl" doesn't need Simon's notebooks...

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DF Spoilers / Re: Marvra and Kemmler (Deadbeat)
« on: August 03, 2017, 05:28:20 PM »
I'm pretty sure it will just be time to catch up with the vampires in book 16.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Marvra and Kemmler (Deadbeat)
« on: August 03, 2017, 03:43:29 PM »
Quote from: Quantus on August 03, 2017, 01:55:04 PM
Some of them have a recurring pattern, jim has acknowledged vaguely. Like the Denarians every five books, for example. 
I expect most if not all of those to appear in the next one for the Peace Talks (probably not Cowl, at least not as an envoy).

Skin Game threw me for a bit of a loop with that. I'd kept expecting at least a B-plot with vampires, since one court or another has been significant somehow in every multiple of three up until SG.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Marvra and Kemmler (Deadbeat)
« on: August 02, 2017, 02:29:05 AM »
Quote from: DonBugen on August 02, 2017, 12:34:59 AM
I feel, though, that we haven't seen the end of her. Didn't Jim say that she would appear in Mirror Mirror, actually as an ally? I wonder if she was able to use the Word, too. She does have power.

The WOJ was ambiguous to an extent, but given that his phrasing was 'fast ally' I think prevailing opinion was that she's an ally to evil Mirror Dresden. Prime Harry might collaborate with her temporarily if it was necessary to confront a mutual enemy he considered even worse, but I don't think he could condone her as more than a temporary truce of necessity.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Butcher Battle #19: Michael vs Langtry
« on: August 01, 2017, 03:23:31 PM »
Quote from: DonBugen on July 31, 2017, 03:53:51 PM
Michael attacks Langtry either to save Molly from execution or in vengeance after an execution, which was called for by a majority vote from the council:  Michael fails; the sword breaks, and Langtry incapacitates him without killing him.  Quickly and efficiently.  He didn’t become the Merlin by collecting frequent flier miles, after all.

Using the sword irresponsibly doesn't automatically break it. Rather, it just becomes vulnerable to being broken. So if Michael tried to use it for personal reasons, Langtry could just lock him down in a cocoon of hardened air until he dropped it (that binding Harry and Elaine figured out may have sucked against other wizards who can attack the 'knot', but it's more than adequate against anyone non-magical).

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DF Spoilers / Re: A clue during Uriel's transubstation - Skin Games Spoilers!
« on: August 01, 2017, 03:09:35 PM »
Quote from: Quantus on August 01, 2017, 12:12:49 PM
Ive also toyed with the possibility that all mythological Creators throughout human history are facets/avatars of the same Entity. In that theory the Mothers are themselves facets of this Creator; the polar Fire and Ice primordial forces that created the world in the Norse myth

Many of the creators might be different facets of the same one, but we know the Mothers arose later from Hecate's mantle being divided and their Courts grew in power through sacrifices on the Table. And even if the original Hecate continued as Mother Winter, she wasn't a creator in her origins.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Bob, Butters, and the White Council...
« on: August 01, 2017, 02:36:54 AM »
It would still prompt questions of, if they knew Justin had stolen the skull, why it didn't turn up in the wreckage after Harry defeated him.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Denarians and White Council
« on: July 31, 2017, 08:34:48 PM »
Quote from: ebliss1 on July 31, 2017, 06:59:07 PM
So unless the Denarians take direct action against the White Council, I really don't see these two bodies coming into direct conflict.

Also, Tessa's opening pitch to Harry in SmF was rooted in offering him pretty good terms to avoid an incident with the Council. Harry figured she was lying, but most wizards would be pretty happy to take that deal - and she might have actually meant it with some random with less of a reputation for obstinacy.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Bob, Butters, and the White Council...
« on: July 31, 2017, 08:30:31 PM »
The entire reason Butters and company have had to step up so openly is that the Council doesn't have assets on the ground in Chicago. Now that Harry's back, they'll have an even better excuse to continue ignoring the Fomor push on the city. Also given that the senior Wardens are under the impression Bob was destroyed in Kemmler's lab rather than taken by Justin, there's plenty of room for them to remain ignorant unless Jim chooses to write some coincidences to make Bob coming to light into a subplot.

Another angle that I think might be riskier than Butters' gear is that Evil Bob is still out there. If some of his schemes get on the Council's radar and they trace the deception about him being destroyed back to Justin, it's a short jump to Harry.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Denarians and White Council
« on: July 31, 2017, 01:44:12 AM »
Quote from: LordDresden2 on July 30, 2017, 03:56:12 AM
One wonders how much of Nicodemus' boasting about being the dominant player and the Fallen following his lead is sheer self-deception.  Anduriel may be laughing his shadowy ass off whenever he hears Nicodemus go into that rant.

My sense is Anduriel is probably OK with Nicodemus calling shots over the other 29, because they're an exceptionally tight team in terms of overall purpose, and a badass host helps his standing among not uniformly trustworthy company. (Side note, I wonder whether Anduriel is the de facto head Denarian because he has a long-lived badass host who's been around since the beginning, or because his eavesdropping is that powerful? If Nic bought it, would Anduriel still be at the top of the heap as soon as he got a new host, or would another one move up?)

But the very act of Falling requires a certain psychology. If he's unwilling to follow orders from TWG himself, there's no way he's willing to the led by a mere mortal.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Denarians and White Council
« on: July 28, 2017, 09:15:22 PM »
Quote from: Rasins on July 28, 2017, 04:59:09 PM
Well, I'm thinking a couple of things.  First is that the Denarians are/were signatories to the Unseelie Accords and as a group could not be lightly touched by the Wouncil.

While they were members of the accords, it would have been a literal act of war to go after them for violating the Laws. I'd chalk it up to mostly not being worth pissing Mab off.

Besides which, the fallen is going to take control if the host starts acting erratically on too large a scale. Allowing a cooperating host like Tessa or Rosanna a few indulgences is one thing, but the Fallen have a purpose and they expect their hosts to mostly stick to acting on it.

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