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The Dresden Files => DF Spoilers => Topic started by: Con on February 25, 2021, 11:22:14 AM

Title: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: Con on February 25, 2021, 11:22:14 AM
So did the Hellhound know that his former kennel master was in town and what his plans were?
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 25, 2021, 11:37:35 AM
So did the Hellhound know that his former kennel master was in town and what his plans were?
Probably not, he's been kind of floating around in a drunken and depressed haze alternating between stalking Ivy and taking jobs for humans, not tracking Drakul.
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: Arjan on February 25, 2021, 01:50:51 PM
Probably not, he's been kind of floating around in a drunken and depressed haze alternating between stalking Ivy and taking jobs for humans, not tracking Drakul.
I think Harry should give him a job.
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: ZhonLord on February 25, 2021, 10:14:46 PM
I think Harry should give him a job.
Except Harry giving Kincaid a job is what led to the guy being in this state.  So I doubt he'd be interested in an offer.
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: didymos on February 25, 2021, 10:20:02 PM
How should we know? He didn't appear in Battle Ground and Jim hasn't said anything about him.
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: b4utoo on February 26, 2021, 12:27:06 AM
I think Harry should definitely drill Kincaid and Ivy for details...love the fact Ivy was out slinging it for the good guys
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 26, 2021, 03:18:29 AM
I think Harry should give him a job.
Or at the very least focus on mending bridges between him and Ivy as part of Twelve Months.
How should we know? He didn't appear in Battle Ground and Jim hasn't said anything about him.
Priscellie: Alrighty. What has Kincaid been up to since the events of Changes?

Jim: Oh Kincaid. I will say this much, Kincaid and Ivy kind of had their falling out.

Priscellie: It's in one of the microfictions on jimbutcher.com

Jim: Oh yeah I actually did that on the website. Since then he's been feeling guilty a lot and drinking and sort of stalking Ivy about and still trying to protect her occasionally and to which she's just like "no, no, I cannot deal with this, no" but he's bad at boundaries and so is she so it's a very broken relationship between the two of them.
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: didymos on February 26, 2021, 05:05:09 AM
While interesting, it doesn't address the question at hand.
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 26, 2021, 07:25:38 AM
While interesting, it doesn't address the question at hand.
It tells you that he's a drunken wreck at the moment which answers the original question about whether he'd know about Drakul being in town, people in that state probably aren't tracking the actions of a boss they cut ties with at least decades ago.
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: didymos on February 26, 2021, 07:45:32 AM
It tells you that he's a drunken wreck at the moment which answers the original question ...

Not really. 
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: Mira on February 26, 2021, 03:20:47 PM


   I wouldn't be surprised if he was lurking about in the shadows during the battle, still having Ivy's back.  She knows it as well, but won't acknowledge him for a number of reasons, many are the same as the reasons she didn't acknowledge Harry. Not just to punish both of them a bit for what they pulled at the end of Changes, but she now needs more than ever to send a message to the rest of the supernatural world that she is independent and a force to be reckoned with, as her grandmother was.  The Archive keeps score, calls balls and strikes, it has no friends.
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: didymos on February 26, 2021, 10:21:36 PM
Not just to punish both of them a bit for what they pulled at the end of Changes, but she now needs more than ever to send a message to the rest of the supernatural world that she is independent and a force to be reckoned with, as her grandmother was. 

Kincaid worked for her grandmother:

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“No,” Luccio said. “But Kincaid was working for Ivy’s grandmother at the time, and the girl confided in him.”

Butcher, Jim. Small Favor (The Dresden Files, Book 10) (p. 408). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: Mira on February 27, 2021, 05:25:50 AM
Kincaid worked for her grandmother:

However that doesn't mean he was as close to her grandmother as he was to Ivy. Being a body guard, maybe occasional assassin is one thing, but perhaps seeing himself as a surrogate parent is quite another.  The former he did for Ivy's grandmother, but for Ivy, he did try to be a parent in his own fashion.  Remember him saying to Harry how he tried to get Ivy into things "normal" little girls did?  Also just because he worked for her grandmother, it doesn't mean that the grandmother wasn't detached, she was.
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: groinkick on February 27, 2021, 07:31:07 AM
Probably not, he's been kind of floating around in a drunken and depressed haze alternating between stalking Ivy and taking jobs for humans, not tracking Drakul.

What short story showed this??
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: didymos on February 27, 2021, 08:50:53 AM
What short story showed this??

It was a WOJ.  It was posted above (https://www.paranetonline.com/index.php/topic,54097.msg2342642.html#msg2342642).  Although it didn't say anything about taking other jobs.  Just that he's been drinking and still sorta protecting Ivy.
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: Con on February 27, 2021, 11:24:10 AM
Hmm I wouldn't be surprised if Vadderungs tracking Kincaid the same way he keeps track of all those shapeshifters that Nicodemus could have used, and Goodman Grey was the only one available to be hired. If Kincaids taking hits for/from humans Marcone seems an obvious employer as well, someone just in touch enough with the supernatural politics for Kincaid to keep an ear out for Ivy. Combine the fact that Ivy, was in Battle Ground in a pitched battle where she could have been killed. Yeah I think Kincaid was around to protect her, it wouldn't fit his character or that relevent WOJ for him not to have been.

My question is did he know Drakul wasin town/would show up?
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 27, 2021, 12:16:52 PM
It was a WOJ.  It was posted above (https://www.paranetonline.com/index.php/topic,54097.msg2342642.html#msg2342642).  Although it didn't say anything about taking other jobs.  Just that he's been drinking and still sorta protecting Ivy.
The hired out by mortals was another one from the post-BG era.
So what about our boy Kincaid? Is he gonna come back and are we gonna-is he looking for a job right now I guess?

Well I mean if you're good at killing people you can pretty much always get work unfortunately in this world. But that said, he's out doing low profile stuff which is to say working for mortals. He hasn't been doing much in the supernatural world lately he's all depressed.

Aww.

Well I mean he shot her only friend, she booted him.

Her best friend shot her other best friend right, so.

Well Kincaid wasn't her friend he was hired.

Poor Kincaid.
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: Mira on February 27, 2021, 01:57:52 PM
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Her best friend shot her other best friend right, so.

Well Kincaid wasn't her friend he was hired.

Poor Kincaid.

Poor Kincaid indeed, because while true, he was hired, I think he saw himself as more. I think Ivy did also.
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: groinkick on February 28, 2021, 02:06:27 AM
Dang I completely forgot some big stuff.  Who was the friend of hers that Kincaid took out?  Oh was it because of his deal with Dresden??
Title: Re: Did Kincaid know Drakul was in town?
Post by: Arjan on February 28, 2021, 03:26:51 AM
Dang I completely forgot some big stuff.  Who was the friend of hers that Kincaid took out?  Oh was it because of his deal with Dresden??
Go to Jim’s website and read his micro fiction again.