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Title: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: Dina on November 08, 2020, 07:13:33 PM
Just a random thought I had. I would like to see Marcone, who is always so controlled, under the direct influence of a whampire, if only for a few moments. It would be different and fun.

I am aware I don't have many chances to see it, because whampires would not attack the Baron of Chicago for no reason but...imagine that Denarian Marcone made a move against Harry, and Lara, forced to protect Harry's life, decided to protect him.
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: Wicked Woodpecker of West on November 08, 2020, 08:08:27 PM
Definitely I want to see facade of calm common among few always-cold enemies and frenemies to be utterly ruined: Marcone, but also Lara and Mab.
We sort of get Nicodemus bit broken in SG - I want it more.
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: Dina on November 08, 2020, 08:40:47 PM
We've seen a touch of Mab. I think that is enough. And Lara lost it when Thomas was captured. But yes, I want to see Marcone broken, even for a few moments.
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: Snark Knight on November 09, 2020, 01:54:41 AM
The Fallen can manipulate what the host feels. I don't think they would have the slightest bit of trouble blocking a whampire from clouding their host's thinking. Either block it so they feel nothing instead of distracted with fake pleasure, or substitute a pain signal so they realize they're under attack.
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: Mira on November 09, 2020, 02:30:09 PM
The Fallen can manipulate what the host feels. I don't think they would have the slightest bit of trouble blocking a whampire from clouding their host's thinking. Either block it so they feel nothing instead of distracted with fake pleasure, or substitute a pain signal so they realize they're under attack.

I agree,  actually unless the Fallen has a way to keep the vamphost going without feeding, that isn't going to happen.  It isn't a matter of getting pleasure or what ever, it is nourishment, without it the vamphost dies.
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: Dina on November 09, 2020, 04:51:53 PM
I was not talking about vamphost but about Marcone. I don't know, perhaps there is a limit to what Fallen can block. I don't know.
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: Mira on November 09, 2020, 05:48:25 PM
I was not talking about vamphost but about Marcone. I don't know, perhaps there is a limit to what Fallen can block. I don't know.

I can see it as a possible motive for a WCvamp to take up a coin if it would mean freedom for the Hunger if that is what they are after.
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: Arjan on November 09, 2020, 06:58:49 PM
I can see it as a possible motive for a WCvamp to take up a coin if it would mean freedom for the Hunger if that is what they are after.
Most of them like their hunger.
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: Mira on November 09, 2020, 07:11:38 PM
Most of them like their hunger.

My point, so if one of the Denarians think that could be used as a bargaining chip for taking up a coin, I think they will be disappointed.
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: TheCuriousFan on November 10, 2020, 09:30:06 AM
Though if the fallen in question gets rid of the hunger once they're inside then they've got the whamp on the hook since without the hunger they can say goodbye to immortality if they put down the coin.
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: Mira on November 10, 2020, 11:41:01 AM
Though if the fallen in question gets rid of the hunger once they're inside then they've got the whamp on the hook since without the hunger they can say goodbye to immortality if they put down the coin.

 Perhaps, depends on what the Fallen is offering, I realize they can sell ice cubes in the Arctic, but
as has been pointed out, most vamps like their condition, what can they offer that is better?
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: Arjan on November 10, 2020, 12:33:41 PM
Perhaps, depends on what the Fallen is offering, I realize they can sell ice cubes in the Arctic, but
as has been pointed out, most vamps like their condition, what can they offer that is better?
Even more power. The genoskwa took the coin and he was already stronger than most denarians.
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: Mira on November 10, 2020, 02:11:55 PM
Even more power. The genoskwa took the coin and he was already stronger than most denarians.

Perhaps, but one is merely power and strength, a vampire not only gets nourishment but pleasure as well.  Can one of the Fallen offer more pleasure that a vamp already gets from feeding?
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: TheCuriousFan on November 10, 2020, 02:43:31 PM
Perhaps, depends on what the Fallen is offering, I realize they can sell ice cubes in the Arctic, but
as has been pointed out, most vamps like their condition, what can they offer that is better?
Power, better regen, absolutely any skill you could ever want.
Perhaps, but one is merely power and strength, a vampire not only gets nourishment but pleasure as well.  Can one of the Fallen offer more pleasure that a vamp already gets from feeding?
Well they have free control over said vamp's sensory input so yes, they could even just get lazy and give them the feeling of feeding on demand.
Title: Re: [BG spoilers!!] A scene I would like to see
Post by: Conspiracy Theorist on November 10, 2020, 05:08:27 PM
Even more power. The genoskwa took the coin and he was already stronger than most denarians.

Power enough to kill River, there is real hate there for Nicky to work with.