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The Dresden Files => DF Spoilers => Topic started by: Mira on October 13, 2020, 06:43:19 PM
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Okay he has a castle now, how is he going to fix it up?
1] Sounds like a skylight is in order.
2] He's got his old lab back, but is he going to expand it now?
3] Library; He can devote a whole room to ceiling to floor book cases. Wonder if
he is going to try and get some of those magic books that were forbidden to him.
4] An automated self serve pizza maker, that makes fresh not frozen pizza.. The
whole city of Chicago owe the Major General and Company big time. Things could
have been a lot worse for everyone without them.
5] And nice bedroom,playroom, study suite for Maggie.. With a nice corner shelf for Bonea
What else?
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There is pappa Raith library. Now he is going to marry Lara he should get acess.
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Guest rooms and a basketball court (or a throne room; if he's gonna challenge Marcone's powerbase).
A gym for Butters, because he still needs to train with some Einherjars (Einherjaren?).
A computer set-up for Gary and the Paranet. Maybe a full-out computer center.
An armory.
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Guest rooms and a basketball court (or a throne room; if he's gonna challenge Marcone's powerbase).
A gym for Butters, because he still needs to train with some Einherjars (Einherjaren?).
A computer set-up for Gary and the Paranet. Maybe a full-out computer center.
An armory.
Is there a way to protect a computer set up from all the magical stuff that will be happening in that place?
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Is there a way to protect a computer set up from all the magical stuff that will be happening in that place?
Well, if anywhere could have wards against random magic leakage, it's a place warded like Demonreach.
Granted they don't work perfectly on Demonreach (hence the leylines) so it's only a possibility... but Demonreach is housing major prisoners on Ethniu's level (and beyond?) and yet only a few contained leylines and some generic aerial oppressive feelings bleed out.
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He should move in the Alphas, Knights +Carpenters, etc if they want. Keep all his squishy allies in the giant magical fortress. And if he adds the Carpenters, he gets bonus angels.
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Is there a way to protect a computer set up from all the magical stuff that will be happening in that place?
The svartalves can set up a shield for that along with hot water and a decent heating system.
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Automated pizza oven, a big no, a proper wood fired pizza oven and barbecue on the roof, yes, he can use stone from the Demonreach lighthouse and create a shrine for the Little folk, a cathedral for pizza. Build a back boiler. The rest can go as a roof top garden, for Maggie and Mouse. Perhaps grow a few tomatoes, onions, peppers (mushrooms in the basement) and a token stand of celery.
A computer could be powered down and only powered up inside an active magic circle, you could have conduits running through the floor, this would allow third parties to use it. If Harry wants to use technology, (and with Maggie he may have no option) he needs to build a personal suppressor device like Thorn Manacles but rather than cut off entirely all magic, just needs to scale it down so he can still use some magic but still use technology, perhaps have it so he can set it from 100% magic to 0% magic and points in between. Similar devices would be for other wizards apprentices in residence. It makes sense to do something like this rather than build it into the Castle, as Harry isn’t always in the Castle.
There was guest accommodation in the Castle originally so if Harry is taking in other wizards and apprentices this could be used for them, but younger apprentices would be better off with the Carpenters initially.
Harry needs a gym himself, but perhaps not the large one. Day care was run from the Castle, so a proper day care centre for Paranetters and SI kids (Bradley needs new daycare).
The Great Hall is a flexible space, suitable for lectures, functions and a variety of events.
Harry I expect will take the much larger basement for his accommodation to create a larger version of his original apartment, two bedrooms, proper bathroom and kitchen and a larger general space
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A big old bed for when Lara is visiting. (j/k)
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A big old bed for when Lara is visiting. (j/k)
Probably not, Harry didn’t even have Murphy interact with Maggie.
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Automated pizza oven, a big no, a proper wood fired pizza oven and barbecue on the roof, yes, he can use stone from the Demonreach lighthouse and create a shrine for the Little folk, a cathedral for pizza. Build a back boiler. The rest can go as a roof top garden, for Maggie and Mouse. Perhaps grow a few tomatoes, onions, peppers (mushrooms in the basement) and a token stand of celery.
I don't disagree with that but he'll have to hire a crew to man it 24/7 to satisfy Toot and the rest of the army. That is why if he could come up with either a good automated version or a magical version to make themselves it will be hard.
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I don't disagree with that but he'll have to hire a crew to man it 24/7 to satisfy Toot and the rest of the army. That is why if he could come up with either a good automated version or a magical version to make themselves it will be hard.
Castles have a staff.
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A Staff of Little Folk. They work for food.
The rituals of worship at the Cathedral of Pizza, are suspiciously similar to the food preparation practices of Pizza Spress. Harry then merely supplies the materials. In industrial quantities. Which means the Great Hall is going to have to be converted into a pantry.
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Thick rugs and comfy chairs in front of a fireplace. An umbrella stand in the corner. With large dark book cases with his favorite books. A least one painting on velvet and a beer cooler next to an old fashioned phone. Programmed with a direct line to Pizza Express. Kitchen and baths by Etri since Maggie isn't a Winter Princess. A shelf with a ever shining sunbeam for Mister with courtesy by Sarissa and a Door Into Summer by Heinlein. And a soft bed for Mouse
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With a nice corner shelf for Bonea
I'm not actually sure whether he intended to tell any Wardens claiming jurisdiction to inspect his home for black magic to go pound sand, but if he's not quite willing to burn that bridge, keeping Bonea at home is somewhat risky. Someone might start asking problematic questions about how he came to design a vessel for a spirit of intellect based on Bob's, when they think Bob was destroyed with Kemmler.
On the other hand, he does have to work on teaching her some context and concept of morality, and talking through Lash' knowledge with her. He really needs a contraband hiding solution. Either a convenient Way to the island, or if Lea reestablishes the garden, a way to stash and retrieve things without triggering the centipedes.
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I'm not actually sure whether he intended to tell any Wardens claiming jurisdiction to inspect his home for black magic to go pound sand, but if he's not quite willing to burn that bridge, keeping Bonea at home is somewhat risky. Someone might start asking problematic questions about how he came to design a vessel for a spirit of intellect based on Bob's, when they think Bob was destroyed with Kemmler.
On the other hand, he does have to work on teaching her some context and concept of morality, and talking through Lash' knowledge with her. He really needs a contraband hiding solution. Either a convenient Way to the island, or if Lea reestablishes the garden, a way to stash and retrieve things without triggering the centipedes.
He could always get her a "Barbie Mansion" to live in, no one is going to ask questions about that.
I doubt there are going to be many Wardens snooping around the castle. If Harry is right about the wards and gets them working like the ones on Demonreach, no one uninvited is going to get in. What is more as a father, living there with his little family the castle will become a real home and the threshold will have serious power against all intruders.
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I'm not actually sure whether he intended to tell any Wardens claiming jurisdiction to inspect his home for black magic to go pound sand...
I am entirely sure that he will do just that, problably either using more snarky or angry language, depending on the type of day he is having at the time. What is the point of telling someone that they do not have the right to tell you what to do and then let them walk all over your home? His last experience with authorities coming into his home wasnt very good and by the very definition the person asking to look through his house would be an authority figure. If for some reason they tried to use the mortal authorities I guess he can allways hand them a white business card and have Laras lawyers hold them off.
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He needs a nice, big, round table for meetings with whatever new group he's going to throw together because... uhh... references, I guess. ;D 8) ;) ::)
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I am entirely sure that he will do just that, problably either using more snarky or angry language, depending on the type of day he is having at the time. What is the point of telling someone that they do not have the right to tell you what to do and then let them walk all over your home? His last experience with authorities coming into his home wasnt very good and by the very definition the person asking to look through his house would be an authority figure. If for some reason they tried to use the mortal authorities I guess he can allways hand them a white business card and have Laras lawyers hold them off.
Depends who they send and how they act. Giving them lunch and be diplomatic might be a smarter approach, he might learn something.
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He needs a nice, big, round table for meetings with whatever new group he's going to throw together because... uhh... references, I guess. ;D 8) ;) ::)
On that basis he needs a bloody huge stone and anvil to sit in reception with the Sword of Love stuck in it with the inscription “ Whoso Pulleth Out the Sword of the Stone and Anvil, is Rightwise Baron Born of All Chicago.”
Think how much that will annoy Marcone, who of course is the one person who can’t pull it out now in Chicago.
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On that basis he needs a bloody huge stone and anvil to sit in reception with the Sword of Love stuck in it with the inscription “ Whoso Pulleth Out the Sword of the Stone and Anvil, is Rightwise Baron Born of All Chicago.”
Think how much that will annoy Marcone, who of course is the one person who can’t pull it out now in Chicago.
Yeah, but I think that Uriel, Michael, Sanya, and Butters would all haul him off to the wood shed if he did that...
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Yeah, but I think that Uriel, Michael, Sanya, and Butters would all haul him off to the wood shed if he did that...
Sure that is why he just uses a fake. It will make the point as well.
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Sure that is why he just uses a fake. It will make the point as well.
Only if he includes a mock up of Merlin from Disney's cartoon, "The Sword In The Stone."
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Only if he includes a mock up of Merlin from Disney's cartoon, "The Sword In The Stone."
Then he should give guided tours to visiting wardens.
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I am entirely sure that he will do just that, problably either using more snarky or angry language, depending on the type of day he is having at the time. What is the point of telling someone that they do not have the right to tell you what to do and then let them walk all over your home? His last experience with authorities coming into his home wasnt very good and by the very definition the person asking to look through his house would be an authority figure. If for some reason they tried to use the mortal authorities I guess he can allways hand them a white business card and have Laras lawyers hold them off.
Quite aside from whether it's a good idea to send Langtry ammunition to invoke the death sentence, it's probably a smarter political move to welcome Wardens to visit the castle and see the positive he's trying to build it into for the community and the paranet. Publicly and openly doing good drives a little bit of doubt between everyone who visits and sees he's not doing bad guy things and the Merlin.
It does kind of depend whether the inspection duties fall to a fireteam of randoms he's passingly acquainted with or someone more familiar. But deliberate openness might be a step toward changing Ramirez's mind, which he's going to have to do if he wants to get off the track towards eventually throwing down with him. And the fact that the Council at large still doesn't seem to know about Thomas suggests Luccio is still keeping that secret - if she shows up to carry out inspection orders personally, she deserves better than hostility just for that.
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Then he should give guided tours to visiting wardens.
With free floating "Mouse" balloons with every tour, and if they they want to donate to Maggie's college found, a mechanical Mister chasing a ball of yarn.
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On that basis he needs a bloody huge stone and anvil to sit in reception with the Sword of Love stuck in it with the inscription “ Whoso Pulleth Out the Sword of the Stone and Anvil, is Rightwise Baron Born of All Chicago.”
Think how much that will annoy Marcone, who of course is the one person who can’t pull it out now in Chicago.
I kind of love this idea.
Quite aside from whether it's a good idea to send Langtry ammunition to invoke the death sentence, it's probably a smarter political move to welcome Wardens to visit the castle and see the positive he's trying to build it into for the community and the paranet.
When has Harry ever done the "smarter political move," though? I suppose that could theoretically be chalked up to Lara showing him how to properly diplomance ... which would be funny in and of itself, with Harry using lessons from her to show the WCncl that he's totally above board ... which would only make certain members of the WCncl that's further suborned by Lara because the Harry they know would never be this diplomatic! ;D
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Harry can be diplomatic if he really sees a reason to try hard. Most of the time he forgets.
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When has Harry ever done the "smarter political move," though?
That entire diplomatic scene at the end of the last book where he laid the groundwork for maybe averting supe/vanilla war, and acquired the castle?
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It is clear that the Sword has been given to Harry to do as he wishes, and the Sword in the Stone myth does actually reinforce the “powered by an Angel” theory Harry has been putting forth. The angel decides whether someone is worthy or not.
It would certainly rub salt into Marcone’s wounds about losing Camelot, as well as rub Langtrey’s face in it that he is living in the real Merlin’s castle, with Excalibur just like the real Merlin.
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It is clear that the Sword has been given to Harry to do as he wishes, and the Sword in the Stone myth does actually reinforce the “powered by an Angel” theory Harry has been putting forth. The angel decides whether someone is worthy or not.
I think Harry has known for sometime that the Swords powered by angels was no theory. Beginning in Changes, at C.I. Murphy becomes an avenging angel's sock puppet, she wanted no part of the Knight's of the Cross gig after that, at least not for herself. It was clear all through Battle Ground that Butters was channeling warrior angels the whole time he fought.
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He needs a nice, big, round table for meetings with whatever new group he's going to throw together because... uhh... references, I guess. ;D 8) ;) ::)
And he needs a mattress with it, so he can have Nights on the Round Table...
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I am entirely sure that he will do just that, problably either using more snarky or angry language, depending on the type of day he is having at the time.
He'll probably fart in their general direction from the battlements.
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I will be very disappointed if Harry doesn't throw out at least a couple of Holy Grail references.
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I will be very disappointed if Harry doesn't throw out at least a couple of Holy Grail references.
Yeah, when Harry shouted "YOU MAY NOT CROSS THIS BRIDGE!" I was thinking the Evil Wizard Tim, but then I realized it was Gandalf in Lord of the Rings... Sigh..
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Didn't he say "you shall not pass!"?
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Didn't he say "you shall not pass!"?
Yeah, your right, I was paraphrasing.. But the Evil Wizard Tim did too.
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Harry loved his original Star Wars film poster, now he can get the original Trilogy, as well as others, all nicely framed up. He has an awful lot of wall space now.
Monty Python and the Holy Grail would doubtless be on the list. What others? Highlander I think as he used it to mock Nick. Frozen would also be on the list (to Maggie’s Delight and to have a jibe at Mab)
Lord of the Rings Triology obviously. Spider-Man (Sam Raimi) Trilogy. the MCU films (he is still two years away from Dr Strange)
Indeed with the Great Hall add a cinema screen and see if the Swartalves can make him a cinema projector (and popcorn machine) failing that for Bob to project upon.
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Throw in a Faraday cage to keep electronics in? Will that keep his Murphyonic Field at bay? He CAN walk around electricity, so he would not likely blow OUT a fiber optic link, though maybe create interference when he passes it.. to the computers are off when Harry is home, but Maggie and Bob can play while he is away. And the movie projector projects thru the cage?
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Harry’s Murphyonic Field can be contained by an active circle, and it doesn’t just affect electronics it affects all tech, Harry prefers the older tech of a revolver over an automatic as the latter have a tendency to jam around him.
Not sure if it extends to medicine, modern drugs fail to work on a wizard but oldies like aspirin or morphine do. We know aspirin does.
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Harry’s Murphyonic Field can be contained by an active circle, and it doesn’t just affect electronics it affects all tech, Harry prefers the older tech of a revolver over an automatic as the latter have a tendency to jam around him.
Not sure if it extends to medicine, modern drugs fail to work on a wizard but oldies like aspirin or morphine do. We know aspirin does.
Some antidotes to mushroom toxins as well.
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Some antidotes to mushroom toxins as well.
Yes, Harry should know that it works if it is a traditional remedy, rather than a high tech designer drug.
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Harry’s Murphyonic Field can be contained by an active circle, and it doesn’t just affect electronics it affects all tech, Harry prefers the older tech of a revolver over an automatic as the latter have a tendency to jam around him.
Not sure if it extends to medicine, modern drugs fail to work on a wizard but oldies like aspirin or morphine do. We know aspirin does.
Star Wars poster would have rotted if it was just destroying everything made with post-ww2 tech instead of mechanical things.
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Yes, Harry should know that it works if it is a traditional remedy, rather than a high tech designer drug.
In Grave Peril he did take something that would slow the toxin, but I believe he ended up in the hospital for the complete antidote..
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Star Wars poster would have rotted if it was just destroying everything made with post-ww2 tech instead of mechanical things.
The printing technology is old, so it wouldn’t have rotted even if it is newer than WW2. If someone built for Harry a replica of the Blue Beetle it would still work even though brand new because the tech isn’t. Harry could use a modern replica pocket watch provided it has a clockwork as opposed to quartz movement.
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The printing technology is old, so it wouldn’t have rotted even if it is newer than WW2. If someone built for Harry a replica of the Blue Beetle it would still work even though brand new because the tech isn’t. Harry could use a modern replica pocket watch provided it has a clockwork as opposed to quartz movement.
I don't know if that's true. It could be. I also think that a more mechanical device would work better than one that relies on electronics. We have seen in the books that newer guns work better than older guns. This might just be a soft retcon of guns jamming frequently in older books, but newer guns are often much more reliable than older models. On the other hand, some companies don't have the best quality control but used to have excellent quality control, so older models are much more reliable.
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The svartalves can set up a shield for that along with hot water and a decent heating system.
Yes, but I don't think the svartalves helping Harry now.
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Yes, but I don't think the svartalves helping Harry now.
They did when Harry wanted his Lab back.
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That was before discovering that Thomas was missing and than Harry is engaged to his sister.
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Besides it mean’t they got rid of Harry.
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That was before discovering that Thomas was missing and than Harry is engaged to his sister.
Would be nice to know when they discovered that and what the reaction was. A tidbit of info that was glaringly missing from the end of BG.
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Would be nice to know when they discovered that and what the reaction was. A tidbit of info that was glaringly missing from the end of BG.
It surprised me that they just beat Thomas without any "who are you working for" questioning. Just assuming it was white court sanctioned seems lazy for such obsessively thorough people.
I'm still thinking they might have a mole in their organization who arranged for him to be beaten unconscious rather than interrogated. I doubt "Nemesis made him do it" is going to settle things with them at this point, but if Harry can indeed exorcise Justine, getting her to ID a mole and then curing him or her as well might mollify them enough to settle for Lara paying a weregild.
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It surprised me that they just beat Thomas without any "who are you working for" questioning. Just assuming it was white court sanctioned seems lazy for such obsessively thorough people.
I'm still thinking they might have a mole in their organization who arranged for him to be beaten unconscious rather than interrogated. I doubt "Nemesis made him do it" is going to settle things with them at this point, but if Harry can indeed exorcise Justine, getting her to ID a mole and then curing him or her as well might mollify them enough to settle for Lara paying a weregild.
Yes, Justine needed Thomas at the edge of death so Harry would have no choice but to take him to the island.
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Would be nice to know when they discovered that and what the reaction was. A tidbit of info that was glaringly missing from the end of BG.
Yeah, there were chunks of the story cut out to keep up the surprise of Harry grabbing the castle out from under Marcone so we really aren't entirely sure why Evanna lied and helped Harry without so much as a glare.
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And still I guessed this from a casual comment by Jim in a Peace Talks Q &A, about using the diamonds to buy a basketball goal for the Great Hall.
Bad Jim, Bad, (hits him on the nose with a rolled up newspaper).
If you engineer a book for a particular surprise, do not casually give that surprise away in an offhand comment.
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Well, Harry had been whining a lot about how much he missed his lab, his things, he had spend much of PT suffering for it and I thought there would be perhaps a small chance of him going back to his lab. At the time it seemed almost impossible but I tried to imagined him and Marcone reaching a sort of deal so Harry could still use the basement. Then, I've read the same comment that you mentioned and I said "oh, I was right. Apparently, it would be even better". I did not saw him "evicting" Marcone, to be honest. So yes, Jim said too much.
Would be nice to know when they discovered that and what the reaction was. A tidbit of info that was glaringly missing from the end of BG.
Very much so! Specially if the next thing we see is 6 months later, in Christmas. We need to know what happened about that and which is Thomas official status with the Signataires now.
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Yeah, there were chunks of the story cut out to keep up the surprise of Harry grabbing the castle out from under Marcone so we really aren't entirely sure why Evanna lied and helped Harry without so much as a glare.
Evanna knows the truth, that might be why, she still might feel bad about Thomas. She went along because of Molly, so is kind to Harry. But I too found is very odd that Thomas was so badly beaten before they could ask questions. Or they beat him up after they asked questions, because they could. Thomas was still her lover at one time and she might not of wanted to draw attention to that.
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The Legendarium podcast indicates that Harry can use Bob as a home cinema, streaming, internet, etc so all he really needs is a decent projection screen.
Oh and he is going to have Gargoyle Pitbulls.
And there is an extra book called Twelve Months.
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Ooooh, that will be a significant update for Harry! He definitely needs to begin chatting with the Alphas, the knights, the paranetters...and Ivy. Bradley too, probably
I've commented about the book in another thread.
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Yeah Jim said that Bob can pick up the entire electromagnetic spectrum, has previous broadcast on radio, acted as a projector and he and Butters figured out how to connect him to the internet, so Bob is going to hack a neighbour’s WiFi, Prime, Netflix, Hulu, Disney etc as soon as possible in his quest to become the Intellectus of Porn. Bob is very nerdy himself so yes they are going to watch things like the Mandalorian, just so Jim can have Harry use “This is the Way”. Bonea could do the same for Maggie, but with a child lock.
There must be a scene with Bob giving a PowerPoint presentation.
Shared cultural experience is important to prevent isolation and depression, (Nicodemus knows this he created a sub culture for the squires.) Twelve Months is about Harry finally healing from all his trauma, so this will likely be part of it, he has been falling behind now this can catch up, have TV nights with his daughters, and friends, just gossip about new films and shows, maybe even get into gaming (I imagine a bone gaming controller with all the buttons marked out like Bob’s runes).
It would be terribly good for Harry just to sit and watch all of Looney Tunes with his daughters and Mouse on a dark wet day.
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I agree with all that you said here. And I am so happy he will have Bob back.
Oh, speaking of posters, it is imperative to give Maggie a "Frozen" poster. That would please Mab. And of course, a Leia one. That would please Harry himself, and Molly, and would be great for her.
To be honest, I love the idea of Amoracchius in a stone. It would look like a prop but Marcone will become green. I can see Harry "jokingly" inviting him to try it when there is other people present.
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It does not automatically means Bob is back in Harry’s possession. Waldo and Bob would visit occasionally and Bob can be borrowed.
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WOJ says he is.
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Yeah Jim said that Bob can pick up the entire electromagnetic spectrum, has previous broadcast on radio, acted as a projector and he and Butters figured out how to connect him to the internet, so Bob is going to hack a neighbour’s WiFi, Prime, Netflix, Hulu, Disney etc as soon as possible in his quest to become the Intellectus of Porn. Bob is very nerdy himself so yes they are going to watch things like the Mandalorian, just so Jim can have Harry use “This is the Way”. Bonea could do the same for Maggie, but with a child lock.
There must be a scene with Bob giving a PowerPoint presentation.
Shared cultural experience is important to prevent isolation and depression, (Nicodemus knows this he created a sub culture for the squires.) Twelve Months is about Harry finally healing from all his trauma, so this will likely be part of it, he has been falling behind now this can catch up, have TV nights with his daughters, and friends, just gossip about new films and shows, maybe even get into gaming (I imagine a bone gaming controller with all the buttons marked out like Bob’s runes).
It would be terribly good for Harry just to sit and watch all of Looney Tunes with his daughters and Mouse on a dark wet day.
He definitely needs to get back into D&D with the alphas. Imagine how awesome it would be to plan in an actual castle.
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Bob is very nerdy himself so yes they are going to watch things like the Mandalorian,
I hope not. Mandalorian will be made few years later so you know - that would be breaking time laws or smth.
TBH I'm not sure about all this solution. I sort of enjoyed vision of grognard Harry that is bit late to popculture, and his references are all 70 and 80 stuff. This seems like bit cheap way - you just killed 60 000 people Butcher, so Dresden can watch Neflix :P
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I hope not. Mandalorian will be made few years later so you know - that would be breaking time laws or smth.
TBH I'm not sure about all this solution. I sort of enjoyed vision of grognard Harry that is bit late to popculture, and his references are all 70 and 80 stuff. This seems like bit cheap way - you just killed 60 000 people Butcher, so Dresden can watch Neflix :P
Well, it happens... :-[
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Let's say it - Jim was just annoyed he cannot use quotes from TV-series of last decade :(
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Let's say it - Jim was just annoyed he cannot use quotes from TV-series of last decade :(
Easily solved. The next five years or so in the Dresden verse are quiet and happy. Nothing to write about. ;D
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Easily solved. The next five years or so in the Dresden verse are quiet and happy. Nothing to write about. ;D
Ah yes straight up to Maggie being teenager.
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He definitely needs to get back into D&D with the alphas. Imagine how awesome it would be to plan in an actual castle.
Dude with his own Castle, he will be LARPing with the Alphas.
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Dude with his own Castle, he will be LARPing with the Alphas.
With the right illusions you can make it even better
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Well that’s a money raising option
“LARPing in a real Castle, run by a real Wizard, with real magic and Monsters”.
I am sure the Alphas, Toot and Lacuna, Waldo, Bob and one or two others would be up for it.
And of course Harry can run the best Halloween Haunted House possible on his birthday
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I see a work for Mortimer :)