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The Dresden Files => DF Spoilers => Topic started by: bigdangmoose on October 01, 2020, 02:39:24 PM
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With all the deaths over the books, it will be nice to see the return of some of the characters. What really would be nice is if Harry could bring back one or two with him when he returns to his own world. So I bring to you these questions, who do you want to see in MM and who do you want to come back. And I know a lot of you will say Murphy, but remember, she most likely won't be your Murphy. Just figured I would throw that out there to maybe cut down on the idea of bringing Murphy back.
People I would like to see and bring back would be Morgan and Maeve. Condition on Maeve would be that she wasn't the WL and Nemfected.
I really liked Morgan in the end and want to see more interaction between Harry and him now that we know what we know about him. And I would like to see Maeve for who she really was and hit Mab in the gut seeing her again.
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Susan.
Not-a-vampire Susan.
Bring her back to his world so Maggie can have a mom. Maybe the Susan of that world lost a daughter and they can both regain something.
I don't think it's going to happen, but a Susan fan can dream.
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Susan.
Not-a-vampire Susan.
Bring her back to his world so Maggie can have a mom. Maybe the Susan of that world lost a daughter and they can both regain something.
I don't think it's going to happen, but a Susan fan can dream.
That would be super weird. "Hey sweety, look what I got you for christmas, an alternate reality version of your Mother!"
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A Morgan who trusts our Harry.
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I think Susan in Mirror Mirror world will probably be a full Red Court Vampire and a significant player in Alternate Chicago (either Bianca's second-in-command or having replaced Bianca), since the point of divergence is at the end of GP.
Although depending on the exact decision that is made differently, maybe Harry chose to protect Susan and let Michael die trying to retrieve Amoracchius. So I guess it's possible that she's alive and human. Doesn't seem that likely, though.
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Susan.
Not-a-vampire Susan.
Bring her back to his world so Maggie can have a mom. Maybe the Susan of that world lost a daughter and they can both regain something.
I don't think it's going to happen, but a Susan fan can dream.
If MM Harry made the wrong decision in Grave Peril it is probably sacrificing Susan for "peace" the way the white council would like. So Susan would be a vampire in MM reality.
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That would be super weird. "Hey sweety, look what I got you for christmas, an alternate reality version of your Mother!"
Depends on when the difference occurred. What if that Susan also had a Maggie with Harry and that Maggie died at Chichen Itza? What if their pasts were almost identical?
If MM Harry made the wrong decision in Grave Peril it is probably sacrificing Susan for "peace" the way the white council would like. So Susan would be a vampire in MM reality.
That's why I had to specify a non-vampire Susan. Seems unlikely to me, but hey, it's possible.
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Depends on when the difference occurred. What if that Susan also had a Maggie with Harry and that Maggie died at Chichen Itza? What if their pasts were almost identical?
That's why I had to specify a non-vampire Susan. Seems unlikely to me, but hey, it's possible.
I think Harry still had a version of Maggie with vampire Susan.. though I also think we'll see more than one alternate reality so.. though I find it more likely now for him to bring back a version of Murphy... Perhaps after saving her from Lasciels coin?
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Harry should be able only to bring back those persons who died since Grave Peril, and haven’t been adversely affected by his decisions in that book.
They also have to have a reason to come back with Harry. Morgan is the logical candidate, his Harry may be a destroyer, the world suffered at least two apocalypses Harry prevented, the Red Court are still a menace, he may realise his world is doomed to either fall to the Outsiders or be snuffed out by the White God to prevent it falling to them. Journal indicates he knew far more than he was letting on to Harry, and it would be a chance to redeem his promise to Margaret.
Besides Morgan turning up alive and working with the Wizard of Chicago would give the White Council collective anal conjouritis
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At this point, I think Mirror Mirror is going to have more stuff in common with the Flashpoint DC story than "Star Trek Evil Goatee". It will be fun to see what kinds of wars and "things gone sideways" stuff can happen.
Given Harry's new (old?) abode, it makes things line up nicely for Little Chicago - but also if the comments about how the castle's wardings are similar to Demonreach's maybe there's some hints/help that can give Harry some ideas on time-travel or reality hopping.
I'm just irked it'd push the LTW(/River Shoulders now?) training stuff to maybe the book after? Maybe an upcoming short story though.
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Definitely think it'll be river shoulders now. LTW might even suggest he seek Harry out to train him now that he can't fullfil his promise
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At this point, I think Mirror Mirror is going to have more stuff in common with the Flashpoint DC story than "Star Trek Evil Goatee". It will be fun to see what kinds of wars and "things gone sideways" stuff can happen.
Given Harry's new (old?) abode, it makes things line up nicely for Little Chicago - but also if the comments about how the castle's wardings are similar to Demonreach's maybe there's some hints/help that can give Harry some ideas on time-travel or reality hopping.
I'm just irked it'd push the LTW(/River Shoulders now?) training stuff to maybe the book after? Maybe an upcoming short story though.
Mirror Mirror is supposed to have a reduced scope and more character stuff like Ghost Story so I expect to see some of that in flashback if not on screen before he gets dragged over.
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Mirror Mirror is supposed to have a reduced scope and more character stuff like Ghost Story so I expect to see some of that in flashback if not on screen before he gets dragged over.
I think that would be a good thing, because Peace Talks really created a lot of loose ends. The White Council wants to get rid of Harry. The answer as to why and who is pushing it is totally vague. As it Carlos demanding that Harry talk to him, but while makes some accusations, he doesn't ask any specific questions that Harry can reply to. Eb's absolute hate towards the White Court, yet in Battle Ground he didn't seem to have a problem working with the White Court against the Titian.
All of the above may create more questions. I think a lot will depend on whether or not Harry is thrown into the alternate universe accidentally or on purpose.
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I hope it is going to be Harry’s It’s A Wonderful Life, Uriel I suspect is the same Uriel in every reality, able to manifest himself in multiple realities at the same time, and do nothing virtually in any of them.
We will see that the decisions Harry has taken made his world better, the Mirror world may be dying/due to fall to the Outsiders because of mirror “I don’t care Harry”
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I don't think it's definitive that Mirror Mirror will be the only time travel books, or even a time travel book. We could still have a separate time travel book other than Mirror Mirror.
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I don't think it's definitive that Mirror Mirror will be the only time travel books, or even a time travel book. We could still have a separate time travel book other than Mirror Mirror.
Yep, in a recent interview Jim said that the time travel book will probably be the one before the BAT.
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Yep, in a recent interview Jim said that the time travel book will probably be the one before the BAT.
Fingers crossed it's the PG theorized simultaneous, but it seems like a long shot, as that might not be a big enough plot for the casefile finale.
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Fingers crossed it's the PG theorized simultaneous, but it seems like a long shot, as that might not be a big enough plot for the casefile finale.
I'm quite let down MM isn't the time travel book per that Woj. But it does open up the time travel book to be much bigger. I can find TT things in a number of books not just PG, that's just the biggest overt one.. anything with Cowl I could discuss some aspect of TT/alternative future Harry.
So perhaps I might actually get my sliders/quantum leap style adventure :)
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The multiverse exists because of branching caused by key decisions in the time-line, on that theory you can never correct your own time-line merely create alternative time-lines. So with MM Harry becomes aware of the multiverse and how it works, in the TT book Harry gets to engineer a world where he can win the BAT, the one he is actually in, but cannot for example save Karrin as that creates a different timeline to which he is not native, and one which may not survive the BAT, saving Karrin may create a time-line where he doesn’t defeat Ethnui or one where she dies 5 minutes later in a totally different fashion. Now that would be cruel, Harry constantly going back to BG to save Murphy only for her to constantly die a warriors death in each of the parallel words created, and Harry has to watch it, time after time.
No one tell Jim.
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anal conjouritis
;D :o :-[
and do nothing virtually in any of them.
:)
I'm quite let down MM isn't the time travel book per that Woj.
I still don't understand why so many here have been assuming MM would have anything to do with time travel. It's about parallel worlds created by Choice and always has been.
So perhaps I might actually get my sliders/quantum leap style adventure :)
Quantum Leap is one of my all time favorites. It's kinda how I wish Star Trek: Enterprise ended. Al (Dean Stockwell) shows up (again) and Sam leaps out of Archer. I know it doesn't make any sense, but the ending was stupid anyway, so why not?
The multiverse exists because of branching caused by key decisions in the time-line, on that theory you can never correct your own time-line merely create alternative time-lines.
You could fix your timeline, but the alternate timeline created by your Choice would still exist. Maybe. I don't know. It's all made up.
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@BadAlias omg that would have been soooo much better than the actual ending. I did not like it... Neither the unnecessary sacrifice or the conclusion.
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I did not like it... Neither the unnecessary sacrifice or the conclusion.
Same. I also didn't like the whole holodeck aspect either.