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The Dresden Files => DF Books => Topic started by: haroos on May 22, 2017, 06:02:25 PM
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do elves and gnomes and dwarves get a representation anywhere ?
are they of the fae ? or are they existing in the world in some way ? was there ever a mention of them by jb ?
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If I remember correctly it was either in small favor or summer knight that Harry was chased by elves from Summer that had bow and arrows.
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Also, Elves with Bows and Arrows were present when Harry met Lily in the Chicago Aboritium.
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I haven't noticed any obvious high fantasy Elves or Dwarves. That may be a later reveal. Or the Summer Sidhe could simply be the inspiration. Nymphs, satyrs, centaurs all are Summer. If you mean more like DnD the closest is maybe the Svartalves as Drow.
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They are mostly part of the fae by all accounts. They werent present in SmF (that was the Gruffs, aka goat-people) but in CD they were mentioned both as part of the Winter Birthday Party as well as Lily's group of Summer at the Gardens.
Tolkien Dwarves were themselves based on the norse Svartalves, which have appeared several times, so you could say those are represented.
No direct mention of Gnomes in the text, though per wikipedia the term is only 5 centuries old, and "the term gnome became largely synonymous with other terms for "little people" by the 20th century, such as goblin, brownie" so one way to look at them is a broad category of Fae, of which we've seen several examples.
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If I remember correctly it was either in small favor or summer knight that Harry was chased by elves from Summer that had bow and arrows.
Obviously elves are the Fae, and goblins are represented, as they Earlking is the leader of the goblins. Dwarves might be somewhere in ther never never, but I doubt it. Honestly, Dwarves just seem like short humans, I see nothing magical about them.
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Oh, and of course the show elves are in the mall, and saved Dresden's behind in 'Its My Birthday Too" They fix shoes in a little store, and they are littloe fae, much like dewdrop faeries, but indoor ones.
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I'm trying to remember back to the scene in Chicago over Chicago in SK. Weren't there bands or packs of fae running around all over the place. I'll have to look it up and see what all was named.
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The Svartalfar that Molly rents her apartment from. The direct translation is "dark elf", but their crafting, obsession with things of beauty, and preference for isolationism point to the stereotypical dwarf. Either way, we have an elf or a dwarf.
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The Svartalfar that Molly rents her apartment from. The direct translation is "dark elf", but their crafting, obsession with things of beauty, and preference for isolationism point to the stereotypical dwarf. Either way, we have an elf or a dwarf.
Their definition is Dark Elf/Svartalfar to distinguish from the Liosalfar/Light Elves. But they were the inspiration for the modern Dwarf/Elf dichotomy that Tolkein made so popula, where the Light Elves became the base Elf. The confusion is that there were both Dwarves and Svarts in Norse Mythology, but the terms were annoyinging interchangeable...except when they weren't. The Svarts were a Dwarf-like race that lived in an entirely Underground Realm of the Nine Realms. "Dwarf" was a term applied to specific mythical figures, and by context it is sometimes clearly the same and sometimes clearly a different thing. But the Svarts are what the Tolkien/DnD dwarf Stereotype was based on.
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So we have dwarfs in the Dresdenverse