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Other Jimness => Cinder Spires Books => Topic started by: Fyrchick on March 16, 2014, 08:44:30 PM
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I was wandering through Goodreads and saw an "expected publication" date of Aug 7, 2014.
Any info on how accurate this might be?
Edit by Priscellie:
We have a release date! September 29th, 2015!
Full Details: http://www.jim-butcher.com/posts/2015/cinder-spires-1-release-date
Preorder: http://www.jim-butcher.com/store/?cat=7
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I was wandering through Goodreads and saw an "expected publication" date of Aug 7, 2014.
Any info on how accurate this might be?
Not really. I have no idea how they came by that date. It hasn't been announced by the publishing company. Serack got any ideas?
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Not really. I have no idea how they came by that date. It hasn't been announced by the publishing company. Serack got any ideas?
He said a couple few weeks ago something along the lines of, "my deadline is Monday" so that might have been the expected pub date if he met that deadline and if they give him a prime publishing timeline (most books take a while to edit and stuff but supposedly Jim's are way ahead of the 8 ball on that when he submits them to the editor.) However, I'd estimate he's still got a little under a third of the book left to write. And he's traveling to Australia...
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And he's traveling to Australia...
That means he should be done by the time he gets there, right? I mean, it'll be summer 2014 there, and he's already got 2/3's done. ;)
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Any updates on how close Jim is to being done?
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"You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles."- Miracle Max
In all seriousness, I think patience is the keyword in this case. More information on the Cinder Spires will be released, of course you will have to pay for it by waiting lol.
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The august 7th date was probably just set because its my birthday, and Jim used his freaky deaky mind powers to know that, and gimme a book.... Right?
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The august 7th date was probably just set because its my birthday, and Jim used his freaky deaky mind powers to know that, and gimme a book.... Right?
Suresure, that must be it ;)
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he did an interview two weeks ago, it's in YouTube, and he said he's for one last bit to write, and then it's off to the editor. it could be six months odds editing and publishing, but I'm hoping for Dec or Jan.
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Yay!
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I just returned from the signing in Scottsdale, where Jim said that he has yet to finish the first book due to exploding teeth problems.
Also, not sure if this has been reported before, but Jim said he has a deal for 3 books, which could become 6, but he would love it to go to 9 books or so - because he's having so much fun writing it and the Beta readers are loving it.
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he did an interview two weeks ago, it's in YouTube, and he said he's for one last bit to write, and then it's off to the editor. it could be six months odds editing and publishing, but I'm hoping for Dec or Jan.
Is this it ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyAKU7sNWYI
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Is this it ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyAKU7sNWYI
Nah, it was a different one. I'll see if I can find it later. It's been a few weeks, and I've watched a bunch of con videos in the meantime. But there may be something about it in that one. I don't know that I've watched it. I think I've seen bits of other videos from that same Q&A.
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Jim said the same thing at Phoenix Comicon. The book would have already been completed except for the exploding tooth. It was very close. He said something about "next year" when asked when it would come out. I hope that was off the cuff and not accurate. I was hoping for a Fall release date so we could have alternating Spring and Fall releases of TDF and CS.
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I watched one of Jim appearances where he told the audience how his dental problems caused a delay to his finishing the first book. He said his new deadline to finish is July 1st. If you look at the calender you'll see that he's not making any more personal appearances until San Diego Comicon in late July. With his schedule clear I assume Jim will finish around July 1st, so in theory we could see a Christmas release date, but I won't be surprised if we have to wait until next spring, say sometime in March.
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I suspect we'll see a new book from Jim every spring, and it'll alternate between a Dresden book and a Cinder Spires book, until the latter series is finished, then back to a 12-18 month cycle for the Dresden Files (until Jim starts a new series).
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I suspect we'll see a new book from Jim every spring, and it'll alternate between a Dresden book and a Cinder Spires book, until the latter series is finished, then back to a 12-18 month cycle for the Dresden Files (until Jim starts a new series).
I don't know if it will be that bad. Look at the release dates of the Codex Alera books and the Dresden File books. You don't see an alternating pattern of one book a year. Also, Jim said that as soon as he finishes the Aeronauts Windless he'll start on the next Dresden book, which kind of surprised me, I thought he'd need to take some time off before starting book 16; or Peace Talks if that's what it will be called.
Perhaps because the delay in finishing the first Cinder Spires book was caused by dental problems and not some kind of writers block, which Jim has said he doesn't believe in, he already has a strong grasp of what he needs do to finish the first story off and it won't be a great leap for him to jump back into the Dresden Verse again. He also said it takes about six months to write a novel, not counting exploding teeth and other complications life can throw at you. So here's to Jim having few life complications to deal with so your prediction of either a Dresden or Cinder Spires book per year; but not both, doesn't occur.
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It's taken Jim a lot longer than six months to write the last three Dresden books, and the series has only grown more complicated in that time. Beyond that, Jim himself has all but stated that a DF book once a year is a thing of the past.
A few things have changed which have slowed my writing pace. First, I started getting involved in other projects: there was the TV show, there are the graphic novels, the RPG and mostly the accursed short stories. Those are a huge time sink for me, because I really suck at actually producing them. Seriously, they're harder to put together than novels, and eat up a BUNCH more time for their size. I've just finished the last short piece I'm going to write for a while, so hopefully that will help.
Second: In the last three or four years as the series has gotten more popular, it's gotten more attention, which means that I have as well. There is a constant stream of interviews, appearances, tours, events, charity requests, autographings and so on. That doesn't happen forty hours a week, but it sure as hell eats up way more time than it did when I was writing Death Masks or Blood Rites.
Third: The process of writing itself has changed for me. As I learn more about the craft, my process has become more involved and it takes a little more time to write up to the standards that I set for myself, and I at least try to keep setting them higher, to keep learning and growing. I can't make it happen any faster and still call it my best effort.
Fourth: I'm just plain tireder and older than when I got started. My self-discipline is greater, but my energy is probably less ferocious than it used to be. I could turn Dresden into Mack Bolan, from a mental-stamina standpoint, but I don't think I'd much enjoy it, and I doubt most of the readers would, either. My wrists and hands hurt a lot more quickly than they used to when I sit down at the keyboard. It isn't a huge deal, but it does put a limit on how much time I can sit and concentrate.
Fifth: There are way more miscellaneous demands on my time than there used to be, as I've gotten older and taken on more responsibility and stuff. Things like, for example, spending an hour of keyboard time writing frustration-driven fan-relations posts to the web site.
Now, granted, this was from over two years ago, but I would imagine most, if not all, of this still holds true.
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It's taken Jim a lot longer than six months to write the last three Dresden books, and the series has only grown more complicated in that time. Beyond that, Jim himself has all but stated that a DF book once a year is a thing of the past.
Now, granted, this was from over two years ago, but I would imagine most, if not all, of this still holds true.
Probably so, and all reasonable. That being said he was churning out 2 books a year last time he had two series going, and kept saying at the time that the 2nd project actually helped keep him fresh and motivated, when he'd otherwise burn out on Dresden. So while Dresden may not get a book a year anymore, its still possible that Butcher himself will be able to do more than a book a year overall. Especially if he is dialing back the short story commitments, per your quote they sound like a disproportionate amount of time.
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This tweet just in from Jim.
"2.5 hours, 4500 words.
Damn, I love it when I get on a roll. :)
Cinder Spires 1, almost done!"
https://twitter.com/longshotauthor (https://twitter.com/longshotauthor)
It won't be long before it's finished and the publishing countdown can begin.
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This tweet just in from Jim.
"2.5 hours, 4500 words.
Damn, I love it when I get on a roll. :)
Cinder Spires 1, almost done!"
https://twitter.com/longshotauthor (https://twitter.com/longshotauthor)
It won't be long before it's finished and the publishing countdown can begin.
Thanks for spreading the word :)
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Has the book been completed?
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As far as we know he hasn't finished it, but I noticed that he hasn't made a single tweet about anything for the past week. Jim will be appearing at DragonCon this weekend. Perhaps he will make some kind of announcement there. Watch his twitter account the weekend, he will almost certainly do some tweets from the convention. Even if he doesn't make an official announcement someone at the Q&A session he will be doing will certainly record it and post it to YouTube. I would look for that to happen sometime early next week. He will likely get a question about The Cinder Spires, so we can watch his response when it's posted. Plus anyone on the forum whose in attendance can post that information here.
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I overheard Jim talking to someone after a panel about this. He has six chapters left to write, then he'll turn it over to his editor(s). He said publishers don't like to announced release dates until they have a manuscript in hand, so we should realistically expect to hear something by the end of October.
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Cool. Maybe I can consider a late birthday present for myself. :)
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At Dragon Con Jim said the first Cinder Spires book will be published "Some time next year." I attended most of his panels and I don't recall hearing anything more specific than that.
Here are my video recordings of the panels I attended: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWB32AbZlbsBM6aW5bythLg428V4W3KVe (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWB32AbZlbsBM6aW5bythLg428V4W3KVe)
As far as we know he hasn't finished it, but I noticed that he hasn't made a single tweet about anything for the past week. Jim will be appearing at DragonCon this weekend. Perhaps he will make some kind of announcement there. Watch his twitter account the weekend, he will almost certainly do some tweets from the convention. Even if he doesn't make an official announcement someone at the Q&A session he will be doing will certainly record it and post it to YouTube. I would look for that to happen sometime early next week. He will likely get a question about The Cinder Spires, so we can watch his response when it's posted. Plus anyone on the forum whose in attendance can post that information here.
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Meh. A great book that's late is late until it comes out.
A bad book is bad forever. I'm willing to wait for another great book.
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Latest tweet from Jim:
"Just came out of a three hour writing trance during the climax of the first Cinder Spires. Mmmm*MMM* that's good doom!"
https://twitter.com/longshotauthor/status/528103751895490560 (https://twitter.com/longshotauthor/status/528103751895490560)
So that means Jim just has to finish the denouement. That can't be more than two chapters, probably. Then the Beta readers look over the last chapters, Jim makes any revisions he feels are necessary and he sends the whole thing in. Can't be more than what, another month? (Hoping)
Anyway, once Jim gives the official word that he sent it in, I believe from past books the publishing process takes about eight months, so my guess is a mid to late Summer release.
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Latest tweet from Jim:
"Just came out of a three hour writing trance during the climax of the first Cinder Spires. Mmmm*MMM* that's good doom!"
https://twitter.com/longshotauthor/status/528103751895490560 (https://twitter.com/longshotauthor/status/528103751895490560)
So that means Jim just has to finish the denouement. That can't be more than two chapters, probably. Then the Beta readers look over the last chapters, Jim makes any revisions he feels are necessary and he sends the whole thing in. Can't be more than what, another month? (Hoping)
Anyway, once Jim gives the official word that he sent it in, I believe from past books the publishing process takes about eight months, so my guess is a mid to late Summer release.
It depends. usually he had beta's reading it as he goes, so only the new parts need to be read. since it's the conclusion, he might just send it to the editor.
editing and publishing has taken anywhere from 3 months to 6, depending on how busy the printers are. is he sends it in by the end of November, editing could done by the end of December, depending on schedules and holidays, it could be March or spring.
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It depends. usually he had beta's reading it as he goes, so only the new parts need to be read. since it's the conclusion, he might just send it to the editor.
editing and publishing has taken anywhere from 3 months to 6, depending on how busy the printers are. is he sends it in by the end of November, editing could done by the end of December, depending on schedules and holidays, it could be March or spring.
I hope it's March! I'll have nothing to do as I gotta stop working 6 weeks before my due date in April :)
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Having no actual personal knowledge of the publishing industry or Jim's habits, I would have to assume that the timeline is going to be longer than usual after the initial manuscript is done simply because it's the first of the new series
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https://twitter.com/longshotauthor/status/533204154324623361
Whee!
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w00000T!
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Yay! Unfortunately the time between an author finishing a book and it being published is the hardest for me. :(
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The book is finished ^^ Now just to wait a couple of months and then there will hopefully be much activity in this part of the forum ;)
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Super exited for this now!
PS. I hope Jim has used the word 'Dirigible' at some point in the book, it's one of my favorite words and you don't get much chance in life to use it in context.
(http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/steampunk-blimp-pictures-3a.jpg)
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I had to look up what Dirigible meant but I like it after understanding what it meant.
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There must be aeronauts and Jim said there will definitely be goggles so I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were dirigibles, zeppelins and blimps.
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I'm excited! I've been enjoying a few steampunk books over the past couple years, and I love pretty much everything Jim has written (with a few exception that I only like a lot). Can't wait!
Too bad it's not a Wheel of Time situation where everything stops at the publisher to turn the book around in a few weeks when the manuscript is done.
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I'm excited too! I hope to get a copy before EasterCon so Jim can sign "StormFront", "Furies of Calderon" and "Aeronaut's Windlass" for me. *bounces*
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https://twitter.com/longshotauthor/status/537078271964622849
Cleanup complete, 700 pages of Cinder Spires manuscript sent off to the editor. Phew! Jim Butcher
Life is unfolding like it should.
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Aw, man... only 700 pages? I was totally hoping for 701. ugh. so disappointed. maybe they'll put an extra page in with a map or something. something by Priscilla maybe. can we even do a map of two spires?
- The Cinder Spires -
- World Map -
| | <----- Super Important Crystal
Bad Guy -------> /| /|
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|/ |/ ^
/| /| ^
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~~ /||| <---- Wise Old Man /|||
~~~ \||| \|||
~~ |||\ |||\
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/||| ^ /|||
\||| ^ \||| <------- Good Guy
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/||| /|||
\||| <----Good Girl \|||
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/||||| /||||| ~~~ Mysterious Island --------->
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Bad Cats ---> |||||/ |||||/
/||||| /||||| <--------Ambiguously Aligned Guy
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|||||\ ~~~~~~~ |||||\ <---Super Important Iron Ore
~~ ~~~|||||/~~~ ~~~~~ ~~|||||/~~~ ~~~
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Aw, man... only 700 pages? I was totally hoping for 701. ugh. so disappointed. maybe they'll put an extra page in with a map or something. something by Priscilla maybe. can we even do a map of two spires?
- The Cinder Spires -
- World Map -
| | <----- Super Important Crystal
Bad Guy -------> /| /|
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|/ |/ ^
/| /| ^
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|/ |/
~~ /||| <---- Wise Old Man /|||
~~~ \||| \|||
~~ |||\ |||\
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/||| ^ /|||
\||| ^ \||| <------- Good Guy
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/||| /|||
\||| <----Good Girl \|||
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/||||| /||||| ~~~ Mysterious Island --------->
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Bad Cats ---> |||||/ |||||/
/||||| /||||| <--------Ambiguously Aligned Guy
\||||| ~~~~~ \|||||
|||||\ ~~~~~~~ |||||\ <---Super Important Iron Ore
~~ ~~~|||||/~~~ ~~~~~ ~~|||||/~~~ ~~~
That's Foolish! Do you really think the Cats would allow themselves to live in only one place, and at the bottom at that? ;)
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That's Foolish! Do you really think the Cats would allow themselves to live in only one place, and at the bottom at that? ;)
No, that's where the Bad Cats are. Cats are all over the place, but the Bad Cats (with the understanding that all cats are bad, thus Bad Cats are particularly bad) are lower, down where the clouds are, but still well above the bottom. Same level as the Marcone-type ambiguous character. They like the clouds, because they help hide their bad or ambiguous operations.
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No, that's where the Bad Cats are. Cats are all over the place, but the Bad Cats (with the understanding that all cats are bad, thus Bad Cats are particularly bad) are lower, down where the clouds are, but still well above the bottom. Same level as the Marcone-type ambiguous character. They like the clouds, because they help hide their bad or ambiguous operations.
Nah, they'd be curled possessively around the Super Important Crystal, and looking down with derision on the Bad Guy's palace in the clouds
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Nah, they'd be curled possessively around the Super Important Crystal, and looking down with derision on the Bad Guy's palace in the clouds
Those aren't the Bad Cats, those are the Haughty Cats (Haughty cats are still bad, because all cats are, but they're not the particularly bad. They're primarily Haughty, as in free to show others just how superior they are, since obviously they are, because they're cats)
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...These statements lead me to believe that the Cats have already gotten their claws into your brain, and so you are holding on to this foolish notion that any cat is capable of less than Absolute Bad or infinitely Haughty. Im sorry my friend, but there is nothing I can do for you. You belong to Them now... :'(
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So according to Jim's tweet here https://twitter.com/longshotauthor/status/552306924373704704 there is a tentative release date for the German edition and when I checked the amazon UK site they had a tentative release date also. The weird thing is Amazon.com doesn't. But looking at those tentative dates I would say start looking seriously for pre-order info mid February.
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Jim tweeted today that the September 14th date is not the publishing date, because it hasn't been set yet. So, apparently it's the German Amazon site just taking their best guess; though as we know the book was finished and sent to the publishers about six weeks ago, so I imagine this prediction can't be more than a month or three off.
So get ready to pre-order fairly soon.
I'm wondering if Jim will do a preview somewhere this spring and read the first three or four chapters to a live audience.
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I'm wondering if Jim will do a preview somewhere this spring and read the first three or four chapters to a live audience.
Didn't he already read quite a chunk which somebody put up on YouTube? It might be interesting to see how much of that remains unchanged ;)
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http://www.amazon.de/Windj%C3%A4ger-Roman-Jim-Butcher/dp/3734160006/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1420499044&sr=8-2&keywords=cinder+spires+jim+butcher (http://www.amazon.de/Windj%C3%A4ger-Roman-Jim-Butcher/dp/3734160006/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1420499044&sr=8-2&keywords=cinder+spires+jim+butcher)
Fake release date, but awesome art!
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Amazon UK has it up. No artwork.
The Aeronaut's Windlass: The Cinder Spires, Book One Hardcover – 15 Oct 2015
by Jim Butcher (Author)
Surprised that Amazon US doesn't have anything.
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Surprised that Amazon US doesn't have anything.
It's been my experience that they lag the UK site by a week or two (different publishers getting the release date to Amazon at different rates).
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We have a release date! September 29th, 2015!
Full Details: http://www.jim-butcher.com/posts/2015/cinder-spires-1-release-date
Preorder: http://www.jim-butcher.com/store/?cat=7
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Wooohoooo!! ;D
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Groovy! :D
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Bart Scott Said it best!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKnG06-oYcg