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Title: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on September 29, 2013, 04:30:12 AM
You're probably all gonna say "Oh no, not THIS again" as soon as you see it, but got a couple ideas that I'd like to bounce off folks, and it seems nobody's reading "Part 2" anymore, where I originally posted 'em.  Since I missed out on the fun I'll try to resurrect it somewhat.

My recommendation for Thomas Raith is Michael Wincott--as he appeared in the first "Crow" movie.  Didn't see anyone else make this choice, but I'm not trying to be "different"--I voted with the majority in casting Nathan Fillion (in elevator shoes) as Harry.  It's just that's how I've always pictured Thomas from the very beginning.  Thomas is not just "pretty", he's dangerous.

Same goes for my choice of Robert Loggia (as he appeared as the General in "Independence Day") as Baron John Marcone.  Always pictured him in that role.  Imagine him sitting at a table in Burger King with his fingers steepled while he listens to Harry lip off...

This "automatic" visualization of certain characters has caused problems for me, too--I simply CAN'T help but picture the Naagloshii as Jim Carey in yellow "grinch" makeup and claws!  No matter how hard I try.  I KNOW the Naagloshii is terrifyingly evil, but whenever I think of him I see the image of a yellow Jim Carey/Grinch.  Can't get it out of my head!

Hmmm...guess "perfect soundtrack" would fit in here as well (mentioned this in another post to Dina):

If they ever make a movie out of "Dead Beat", the PERFECT soundtrack for Suzannasaurus Rex's last ride would be the last approx. 25 seconds of Mastodon's "Siberian Divide" (from "Blood Mountain").  Listen to it an tell me you don't agree!

MaSalaam,

Bilal

Edit:
The first edition of this post can be found here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,817.0.html)
Part 2 may be found here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.0.html) -Serack
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 29, 2013, 01:48:26 PM
Re: Perfect Soundtrack

Scene Background Music:
Hurt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2QAeRZmq7I) (Instrumental) by Johnny Cash
 - Scenes at the end of TURN COAT, including the scene with Thomas and Harry at the zoo.
Stay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RSnLO9K9rM) (Instrumental) by Rihanna
 - Scene in DEAD BEAT when Murphy swings by Harry's apartment before going on vacation.

Character Theme Music:
Michael - Halo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnVUHWCynig) by Beyonce
 - Featuring highlights from all of Michael's appearances in the series.

Book Music Videos
CHANGES - Iridescent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpt7RJUGpdE) by Linkin Park
 - There are so many parallels between the lyrics in this song and the events of CHANGES that its perfect in my head.
GHOST STORY - Waiting for the End (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q) by Linkin Park
 - Same for this one.  I can see a full music video featuring parallels between the lyrics and the book scenes.

Teaser Trailer for Book Release
COLD DAYS - First 31 seconds of Coming Home (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ImCpNqbJw) by P Diddy
 - Trailer would feature dark, cold, vacant snow-covered landscapes of the Carpenter house, the Murphy house, Harry's burnt out house and office, his grave, Chicago, and then a glimpse of Arctis Tor through a blizzard...
 - I wish the song itself were more fitting, because I'd love to fit in that line at the beginning by Diddy:  "If you ever lost your life before... this one's for you"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on September 29, 2013, 06:16:12 PM
As a "theme song" or "credit-song" for at least one of the movies:

"The Wizard", an instrumental by Al DeMeola
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on September 30, 2013, 04:45:58 AM
Hells Bells by AC/DC needs to be used.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on September 30, 2013, 08:26:10 AM
OF COURSE!!!  Goes without saying!

(Do check out "Siberian Divide" by Mastodon, though--listen in particular to last 25 seconds.  Tell me if it don't make you think of Sue tromping on cars right up to where she eats Xian Li...)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on September 30, 2013, 02:57:45 PM
Ah well...might as well move the rest of my picks up here too:

Christopher Lee--Arthur Langtry (of course!)
Ernie Hudson--Rawlins
Lani Tupu--(as he appeared in "Farscape") would work equally well as Donald Morgan or as Nicodemus
Gigi Edgely--would work equally well as Queen Mab or as Molly Carpenter
Anna Paquin--second choice for Molly
Jack Black--Will Borden (I've never envisioned anyone else)
Michael Wincott--Thomas Raith (ditto)
Robert Loggia--Baron Marcone (ditto)
Morena Baccarin--Susan Rodriguez (yeah, I know she's Portuguese)
Nichelle Nicoles--Martha Liberty
Kate Mulgrew--Anastasia Luccio (in her original body)
Samantha Mumba--Tera West (juzzzz becuzzzz...)
Sean Connery--Sir Stuart Winchester
Kris Kristofferson--Vadderung/Odin/Santa (second choice Jeff Bridges)
Michael Dorne--Lord Hern/the Erlking
Wynona Ryder--Marci the Werewolf
Morgan Freeman--Uriel in his "janitor disguise"
Benjamin Bratt--Warden Carlos Ramirez (relax guys' Bratt's Peruvian)
Michael Shannon--either Agent Tilly or Father Roarke Douglas
Takayo Fischer--Ancient Mai (played Mistress Ching in POC/World's End)
Mark Sheppard--Binder (he played "Badger" in Firefly)
Paul Giamatti--Waldo Butters ME (unless I can think of someone better)
Kim Kardashian--Lara Raith, IF (big if), she could act
The Leanansidhe--gotta go with Angelina Jolie on that one, unless I find someone better
Jim Carey--the Naagloshii (can't help it!  Get the image out of my head!)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: SE945809 on November 01, 2013, 04:24:50 AM
I know it's been over a month, but I figured I'd take a stab at this.  I only have a few.

Christopher Lee would have to be the Merlin, props to those who said that.
Michael Wincott would make a good Thomas, but it'd be strange not to see him as a bad guy.
Eric Roberts (from The Dark Knight) is my number one for Marcone, Liam Neeson would be a number two, although he's probably too tall for the role being six four.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on November 01, 2013, 05:13:01 AM
I know it's been over a month, but I figured I'd take a stab at this.  I only have a few.

Christopher Lee would have to be the Merlin, props to those who said that.
Michael Wincott would make a good Thomas, but it'd be strange not to see him as a bad guy.
Eric Roberts (from The Dark Knight) is my number one for Marcone, Liam Neeson would be a number two, although he's probably too tall for the role being six four.

Good on ya!  Michael Wincott, as he appeared in The Crow (the original) and in one of the Three Muskateers movies is idea for Thomas.  I see no problem with him being cast "less villianous" role--there are significantly dark aspects to Thomas' character that TW could still get some "bad guy" in there...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: DeeluvsMouse on November 07, 2013, 06:32:49 PM
Never read the original thread.... I'll though my $.02 in...

Harry.. Jared Padelecki (sp) tall dark slightly dorky..and he could rock a duster..
Thomas.. Ian Somerholder.  just too pretty.
Marcone.  Daniel Craig.
Lara Raith.  Penelope Cruz
Karrin   - really stuck here.. not sure.
Susan. Sara Ramirez.. Callie torez from Grey's
Lea..  Angelina Joilie
Molly  Miley Cyrus.. that's right.. she's young and crazy and all.. but really quite perfect.
Odin/Vaderung   Liam Neison
Butters   Simon Helberg  - Walowitz from Big Bang Theory
Kincade   Alexander Skarsgard. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on November 08, 2013, 09:43:57 AM
Never read the original thread.... I'll though my $.02 in...

Harry.. Jared Padelecki (sp) tall dark slightly dorky..and he could rock a duster..
Thomas.. Ian Somerholder.  just too pretty.
Marcone.  Daniel Craig.
Lara Raith.  Penelope Cruz
Karrin   - really stuck here.. not sure.
Susan. Sara Ramirez.. Callie torez from Grey's
Lea..  Angelina Joilie
Molly  Miley Cyrus.. that's right.. she's young and crazy and all.. but really quite perfect.
Odin/Vaderung   Liam Neison
Butters   Simon Helberg  - Walowitz from Big Bang Theory
Kincade   Alexander Skarsgard.

Is Alexander Skarsgard the same as Stellan Skarsgard?  Not sure.

I could go with Liam Neison as Odin, but still think KK or JB would beat him out for the role hands down.

Depending on how good Jessica Alba looked with black hair, I could see her as Lara Raith.  Still looking for someone who can ACT that that has a phenotype close to Kim Kardashian, because I think in terms of LOOKS (nothing else), she comes as close to my image of LR as any real-life person.  J-Lo might could pull it off (she can act a little).

Although I initially picked Gigi Edgley for it, Anna Paquin might be good as Molly, too--which would free up GE for Mab (my original pick was that she would be good for either role).

LOL, I've never been able to come up with anyone to play Karrin either...

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on November 08, 2013, 04:31:06 PM
Okay, I keep going over it and over it ... and I'm sure I'll change my mind more and more, but ... here's my list as of today...

Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden   ...Billy Burke
Bob the Skull...(If we can’t get Jim Butcher to do it) James Marsters
Karrin Murphy...Katee Sackhoff
Michael Carpenter...Dunno.  Still thinking about this one   
Charity Carpenter   Elizabeth Mitchell
Molly Carpenter... Thought I had her, but .... I might agree with Miley Cyrus
Susan Rodriguez...Jessica Alba
The Leannsidhe...Rebecca Romijin
Mab, Queen of Air and Darkness...Helena Bonham Carter
Waldo Butters...DJ Qualls
Douglas Morgan...Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson
Ebenezer McCoy...Fred Dalton Thomas
Thomas Raith...Thomas Bomer
Lara Raith...Haven't figured her out, but I'd like an actual porn star
Bianca...Angelina Jolie
John Marcone...Eric Roberts
Hendricks...Considered Dolph Lungren, but just not right.
Sonya...Michael Dorn
Arthur Langtry...Gary Oldham
Old Capitan Luccio...Kate Mulgrew
Young Captain Luccio...Jennifer Morrison
Mac...Bruce Willis
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: DeeluvsMouse on November 08, 2013, 04:47:10 PM

Mac...Bruce Willis


THIS!@!@!! omG    PERFECT.   good call.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: jomaxc on November 12, 2013, 08:12:12 PM
I always liked the idea of Toby Kebbell rockin Harry's look and speaking with James Marsters' inflections. He's tall, can do the beat up look, and has snark written all over his face.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: cass on November 13, 2013, 01:44:13 AM
Never read the original thread.... I'll though my $.02 in...

Harry.. Jared Padelecki (sp) tall dark slightly dorky..and he could rock a duster..
Thomas.. Ian Somerholder.  just too pretty.
Marcone.  Daniel Craig.
Lara Raith.  Penelope Cruz
Karrin   - really stuck here.. not sure.
Susan. Sara Ramirez.. Callie torez from Grey's
Lea..  Angelina Joilie
Molly  Miley Cyrus.. that's right.. she's young and crazy and all.. but really quite perfect.
Odin/Vaderung   Liam Neison
Butters   Simon Helberg  - Walowitz from Big Bang Theory
Kincade   Alexander Skarsgard.
Padalecki can also rock the snark, but I don't think I could see him as anything other than Sam Winchester.   I do like Neeson for Odin, though.  I like that a lot.  We'd never get it, of course, but that's why they call it perfect casting! 

I don't know whether I'd want Craig as Marcone or as Nicodemus.  I think he could do an excellent affably creepy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on November 15, 2013, 09:29:20 AM
Hendricks...Considered Dolph Lungren, but just not right.

Picture Lou Ferigno with his hair dyed red.  And Hendrick's ain't much of a "speaking role".  Even Mac talks more than him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 15, 2013, 10:30:09 PM
Picture Lou Ferigno with his hair dyed red.  And Hendrick's ain't much of a "speaking role".  Even Mac talks more than him.

I picture John Cena as Hendricks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on November 16, 2013, 05:53:49 AM
I picture John Cena as Hendricks.

This probably belongs on a "weird" thread or something, but I just had a thought because of your "avatar": Imagine Harry, trying to learn shape-shifting, allowing an image from his "formative years" to sneak into his head while working the spell and anctually transforming himself into Wile E. Coyote...

Another reason I may have had this thought is that I don't know who John Cena is...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on November 16, 2013, 11:13:13 PM
(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Lucas+Bryant+HAVEN+Cast+Celebrity+Fan+Fest+OKf1ipSsqCJx.jpg)
Harry.

The actor's name is Lucas Bryant.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 17, 2013, 02:29:55 AM
(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Lucas+Bryant+HAVEN+Cast+Celebrity+Fan+Fest+OKf1ipSsqCJx.jpg)
Harry.

The actor's name is Lucas Bryant.

He's already been cast.   8)

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2013/news/syfy_haven_dresden (http://postimg.org/image/iaoziwcwp/full/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 17, 2013, 02:33:44 AM
This probably belongs on a "weird" thread or something, but I just had a thought because of your "avatar": Imagine Harry, trying to learn shape-shifting, allowing an image from his "formative years" to sneak into his head while working the spell and anctually transforming himself into Wile E. Coyote...

Another reason I may have had this thought is that I don't know who John Cena is...
If he does some shape-shifting after training with Listens-2-Winds, then I would totally see him being a mangy coyote.

And John Cena.
(http://www.allwrestlingsuperstars.com/wp-content/uploads/1580/John-Cena-WWE-Superstar-12.jpg)
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_pZtdJaOdGofuLMGeYNg-JmxMfFtE8EKBJkn22kd-j8tMzzv1)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on November 17, 2013, 03:50:46 AM
The only problem I really see with Cena being hendricks is that Cena can't keep his mouth shut.  He'd be a LOUSY Hendricks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 17, 2013, 04:04:05 AM
The only problem I really see with Cena being hendricks is that Cena can't keep his mouth shut.  He'd be a LOUSY Hendricks.
You do know it wouldn't be live, right?  I'm pretty sure the director can convince Cena not to say anything, or he doesn't get paid. 

Unless... wait... you're on to something...

Tonight, on TDF Wrestlemagica! The Pornstar Champ Lara Raith takes on Stone Cold Mavra Dracul for the Vampress Title!  The wily Tooticane faces off against Mister Mister in the grudge match of the century!  Later, Harry "The Warden' Dresden and Carlos "Ladie's Man" Ramirez take on DeathCowl and the Undertakeress Kumori for the Darkhallow Tag-Team Title!  All leading up to the night's Big Fight, a Cold Iron Cage Match between Mad Maeve and Looney Lily for the Fae Lady Title!  All coming up, on TDF Wrestlemagica!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: cass on November 17, 2013, 04:22:56 AM
He's already been cast.   8)

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2013/news/syfy_haven_dresden (http://postimg.org/image/iaoziwcwp/full/)

Wait...whaaaat?
This is an April Fool's joke, yes?
(Best joke ever.  Believable up until I saw the date.)

Bryant would make a wonderful Harry, though-- looks wise, at least.  Can anyone comment on the snark ability?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on November 17, 2013, 05:20:36 PM
You do know it wouldn't be live, right?  I'm pretty sure the director can convince Cena not to say anything, or he doesn't get paid. 

Unless... wait... you're on to something...

Tonight, on TDF Wrestlemagica! The Pornstar Champ Lara Raith takes on Stone Cold Mavra Dracul for the Vampress Title!  The wily Tooticane faces off against Mister Mister in the grudge match of the century!  Later, Harry "The Warden' Dresden and Carlos "Ladie's Man" Ramirez take on DeathCowl and the Undertakeress Kumori for the Darkhallow Tag-Team Title!  All leading up to the night's Big Fight, a Cold Iron Cage Match between Mad Maeve and Looney Lily for the Fae Lady Title!  All coming up, on TDF Wrestlemagica!

I see Hendricks as older and bulkier.  But yeah, that Lucas Bryant guy comes pretty close to my mental image of Chicago's only ADD Wizard.  If he subbed for Nathan Fillion (my first choice) I wouldn't be upset.  Caveat being is he up to Harry's standards for wise-assery?  The smirk in the photo suggests he might be, but appearances can be desceiving.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Zohak on November 18, 2013, 05:40:18 AM
hendricks could be played by Triple H....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_H
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/wennpic/triple-h-press-conference-with-wwe-superstars-01.jpg
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on November 19, 2013, 12:10:41 AM
hendricks could be played by Triple H....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_H
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/wennpic/triple-h-press-conference-with-wwe-superstars-01.jpg

Disagree.  Triple-H would work better as Jared Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: hightower on November 22, 2013, 08:07:07 PM
Zachary Levi from 'Chuck' for Harry and Elisha (from '24') Cuthbert? as Murphy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 25, 2013, 05:19:03 AM
This has probably been said before, but how about Rowan Atkinson for Peabody?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: newjak86 on November 29, 2013, 10:25:21 PM
I've always pictured James Cosmo as Morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on November 30, 2013, 12:08:45 AM
I've always pictured James Cosmo as Morgan.

Lani Tupu in his Farscape "Peacemaker" role is, IMHO, perfect for Morgan.  Never envisioned anyone else.  Problem is, never envisioned anyone else for Nicodemus, too.  Guess that says something for his skills that he works for essentially opposite characters/roles...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: newjak86 on November 30, 2013, 12:31:29 AM
Never watched a lot of Farscape so I will take your word for it. I've never actually picked out an actor I would like to see play Nicodemus.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on December 23, 2013, 03:41:22 PM
Is Alexander Skarsgard the same as Stellan Skarsgard?  Not sure.

Alexander Skarsgard is the son of Stellan Skarsgard, almost the same but not quite haha.

I really liked the guy that played Harry in the tv show, Paul Blackthorne, and wouldn't mind seeing him come back, and I have to agree with the people that picked Eric Roberts for Marcone......his gangster character in Dark Knight practically was Marcone.  I think Elizabeth Hurley would make a good sidhe woman, either as Lea or Mab.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on December 23, 2013, 05:38:01 PM
After seeing him in ST, I kinda like Benedict Cumberbach as Nichodemus.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: hank the ancient on December 29, 2013, 09:35:05 PM
Okay, I've got a possible Andi. Everybody say hello to Melanie Leishman from Todd and the book of Pure Evil.

(http://heroicfanboy.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/tumblr_mdrn2ddbmi1qhbhpyo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on January 03, 2014, 01:45:08 PM
if she was cast for Andi, then I think Andi needs a bigger role in the series ;)  or dye her hair and she could be Molly
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: the ghost lives on January 04, 2014, 04:15:57 AM
Not that it would work anymore given his age now, but I've always pictured Nicodemus as Rik Mayall from when he portayed King Herod in Jesus Christ Superstar. Just switch the white coat for a black one.

And no to those in this thread and the one that linked me here who brought up the idea, you do not want a porn star playing Laura. You want an attractive woman who can act sensual and can act. The latter rules the porn stars out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Zohak on January 04, 2014, 07:47:43 AM
Nicodemus could be played by Simon Merrells who portrayed
Marcus Crassus in Spartacus: War of the Damned.

http://www.starz.com/PublishingImages/Originals/Spartacus/Cast/Season%204%20-%20War%20of%20the%20Damned/SPS3_052512_41261_COMP_420x560.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0581163/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t19

Lara or Mab could be portrayed by Liv Tyler
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000239/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on January 05, 2014, 06:35:10 AM
Okay, I've got a possible Andi. Everybody say hello to Melanie Leishman from Todd and the book of Pure Evil.

(http://heroicfanboy.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/tumblr_mdrn2ddbmi1qhbhpyo1_1280.jpg)

I picture Andi as a little (ahem) "thicker"--but my preference runs that way anyway...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: hank the ancient on January 09, 2014, 03:33:23 AM
I've seen some of her work. The main reason I'm suggesting her is that she can pull of the nerdy college kid Andi starts out as, on top of "way to go butters" Andi. That's a pretty wide range of character progression, all things considered.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on January 20, 2014, 11:01:06 AM
I've seen some of her work. The main reason I'm suggesting her is that she can pull of the nerdy college kid Andi starts out as, on top of "way to go butters" Andi. That's a pretty wide range of character progression, all things considered.

OK.  And I visualize Andi as quite a bit (ahem) "thicker".  Or, as Bob puts it, "And they have BOOBS!!!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Cadd on January 20, 2014, 12:49:15 PM
I present to you - Donald Morgan:
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTQwMDk5MzcxOF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjM3ODM3OA@@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg)

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2231545600/nm0322407?ref_=nm_phs_md_1
I did not actually expect Brendan Gleeson to look so perfect to my mental image on Morgan, but there it is!

Others:
Warden "Steed" Chandler: Benedict Cumberbatch (yes, I know it's sever under-using, but heck we're dreaming, right!)
Merlin Arthur Langtry: Jason Isaacs (add some age-wrinkles to the face, and remember to add the long flowing hair and beard)
Karrin Murphy: Amy Sedaris (at least in hight and looks; I really don't know her capacity for tough/fierce though)
Susan Rodriguez: Halle Berry or possibly Zoe Saldana
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Bluebeard on January 23, 2014, 04:06:33 AM
My choice for Dresden:

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I was watching Almost Human on Fox. The level of snark this man can fit into one hour of television is amazing.   :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 23, 2014, 05:02:01 AM
My choice for Dresden:

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I was watching Almost Human on Fox. The level of snark this man can fit into one hour of television is amazing.   :D
It's been said before. but he doesn't strike me as geeky snark. maybe i'm being prejudice. maybe he can pull of a geeky vibe. but I don't think I'd buy it from him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Bluebeard on January 23, 2014, 02:55:22 PM
^
Eh, to each his own. He's kind of a nerd in real life too which is part of the reason I picked him. :)

Does anyone have good picks for Murphy? The two actresses I think could play her are Scarlett Johansson and Maggie Grace.
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Scarlett is my first choice because she has the perfect look IMO. She's short, blonde, and attractive. She can also play kick-ass characters like Black Widow in the Avengers.
Maggie Grace was my second choice because she might be too tall (5'8). I can picture her as Murphy though and she can play well off snark like she did in the movie Lockout with Guy Pearce.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on January 23, 2014, 03:09:47 PM
My pick is charlize theron for murphy.  Though she played unhinged well enough in that snow white flick Id say she's a redhead dye job away from being a good Lea as well.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 01, 2014, 02:01:10 AM
My choice for Dresden:

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I was watching Almost Human on Fox. The level of snark this man can fit into one hour of television is amazing.   :D

Disagree intensely on choice of that actor for Morgan, who, despite his age, I believe appeared much younger.  Your guy would be a GREAT Vadderung though--just add eye patch--or with a bald head with white hair/beard would be a great Ebenezar.  His face matches my image of Wizard McCoy perfectly. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Bluebeard on February 01, 2014, 08:57:28 PM
Disagree intensely on choice of that actor for Morgan, who, despite his age, I believe appeared much younger.  Your guy would be a GREAT Vadderung though--just add eye patch--or with a bald head with white hair/beard would be a great Ebenezar.  His face matches my image of Wizard McCoy perfectly. 

I had forgot all about suggesting Clancy Brown as Morgan. :P

That was moreso because it was Jim's choice and I couldn't help but imagine the Kurgan as Morgan. My personal and newest choice for Morgan is actually Michael Shannon. He's got the imposing height and he can certainly be intimidating when he wants too. I also think he could pull off the unwavering loyalty to the White Council without it being annoyed.

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I hadn't even thought of Clancy Brown as McCoy. That would also be awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on February 01, 2014, 11:20:35 PM
I had forgot all about suggesting Clancy Brown as Morgan. :P

That was moreso because it was Jim's choice and I couldn't help but imagine the Kurgan as Morgan. My personal and newest choice for Morgan is actually Michael Shannon. He's got the imposing height and he can certainly be intimidating when he wants too. I also think he could pull off the unwavering loyalty to the White Council without it being annoyed.

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I hadn't even thought of Clancy Brown as McCoy. That would also be awesome.

I'm a big Highlander fan, I'd be happy to see Clancy Brown in any role.........he made a pretty good Viking in Pathfinder, which also starred your Harry choice, Karl Urban.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 02, 2014, 12:57:28 AM
I had forgot all about suggesting Clancy Brown as Morgan. :P

That was moreso because it was Jim's choice and I couldn't help but imagine the Kurgan as Morgan. My personal and newest choice for Morgan is actually Michael Shannon. He's got the imposing height and he can certainly be intimidating when he wants too. I also think he could pull off the unwavering loyalty to the White Council without it being annoyed.

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I hadn't even thought of Clancy Brown as McCoy. That would also be awesome.

I picked Michael Shannon for Agent Tilly.  My choice for Morgan was Lani Tupu (he would also make a real good Nicodemus IMHO)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Longfellow on February 14, 2014, 02:11:41 AM
Picture Lou Ferigno with his hair dyed red.  And Hendrick's ain't much of a "speaking role".  Even Mac talks more than him.

Kevin Nash ... Nuf said
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mrjoe94 on March 20, 2014, 10:48:35 PM
I apologize if these have been suggested. It's a huge topic covering multiple threads but my suggestion for
Ebenezer McCoy:
Sam Elliott

Cat Sith:
Voice of Mark Hamill

Bob:
I know for a fact he's been mentioned repeatedly but just let James Marsters do him again, it'll also be a nice bonus for those who listened to the audiobooks.



Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on March 21, 2014, 02:46:21 AM
It would be a travesty if Marsters couldnt play /somebody/.  I have long had him stuck in my head at his Spike age, but he's getting mature looking enough I think he would make a killer Nicodemus
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 21, 2014, 06:56:43 AM
It would be a travesty if Marsters couldnt play /somebody/.  I have long had him stuck in my head at his Spike age, but he's getting mature looking enough I think he would make a killer Nicodemus
wouldn't it be more fitting if he voiced Bob, and cameoed in ghost story?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on March 21, 2014, 07:43:27 AM
Point.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on March 23, 2014, 02:02:39 AM
I dunno about More Fitting, Id rather let him have an actual on-stage role persoanlly, and leave Bob to be voiced by Jim himself. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on March 25, 2014, 03:15:06 AM
I dunno about More Fitting, Id rather let him have an actual on-stage role persoanlly, and leave Bob to be voiced by Jim himself.

I nominate Steve Buscemi as 'the voice of Bob'.  His role in 'Armageddon' shows he does 'pervert' real well.  Imagine him saying "And they have BOOBS!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on March 25, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
I nominate Steve Buscemi as 'the voice of Bob'.  His role in 'Armageddon' shows he does 'pervert' real well.  Imagine him saying "And they have BOOBS!"
heheh, I could get behind that idea as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: hank the ancient on March 30, 2014, 05:12:20 PM
Him, or Bruce Campbell.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on March 31, 2014, 01:51:10 PM
Him, or Bruce Campbell.  :)
Whats your sig animation from?  Looks kinda cool, Im really hoping it's a show that's not Supernatural
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: strangelyfe on April 01, 2014, 08:12:22 AM
Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden - Jared Paledecki
Bob the Skull...the voice should be either nathan fillion or jim butcher
Karrin Murphy...Elisha Cuthbert (from The girl next door)
Michael Carpenter - michael chiklis
Charity Carpenter   Elizabeth Mitchell
Molly Carpenter - jennifer lawrence or rooney mara
Susan Rodriguez- I think meghan markle from suits would fit the role
The Leannsidhe...Rebecca Romijin
Mab, Queen of Air and Darkness- Emilia Clarke from game of thrones
Waldo Butters...DJ Qualls
Douglas Morgan - Dwayne johnsan
Ebenezer McCoy-Fred Dalton Thomas
Thomas Raith...Thomas Bomer
Lara Raith - Amrita Acharia from Game of thrones
Bianca - Rebecca Mader
John Marcone...Eric Roberts
Hendricks - Carrot top (dont laugh he would fit all he'd have to do is shave his hair to a buzz cut)
Sonya - Michael Dorn
Arthur Langtry - robert carylye (from once upon a time)
Kinncaid - Jason statham
Old Capitan Luccio - Kate Mulgrew
Young Captain Luccio -Jennifer Morrison
Mac - Bruce Willis
Lily - evanna lynch (from the harry potter movies she was Luna lovegood)
Fix - Tom Felton (also fro mthe potter films he was malfoy)
Maeve- Emily VanCamp
Billy- andrew lawrence (little brother to joey lawrence)
georgia-kristen bell
Andi- Molly C Quinn (from castle)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on April 01, 2014, 12:22:27 PM
Nice list!  I agree with 90% of it.  As Much as I like Dwayne Johnson as an actor I dont see him for the uptight brit that is morgan.  Otherwise you cast several of the roles younger than I would have, but that is more an issue with my perceptions and feeling old than anything else.  I realize they should look like theyre in their 20's but I dont want them looking that much younger than me  :'(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on April 01, 2014, 10:17:47 PM
My pick is charlize theron for murphy.  Though she played unhinged well enough in that snow white flick Id say she's a redhead dye job away from being a good Lea as well.

Charlize is *WAY* too tall for Murphy.  Speaking of unhinged, I think she'd make an excellent Mab
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: strangelyfe on April 02, 2014, 10:48:07 PM
Well I chose the casting because it would fit in with certain ways the books are read, and a younger actor panel will also bring those actors fanbase with them to check out the film and of course the books. Personally if i made a few more tweaks some ppl wouldbe changed but i thought casting wise it was about 93% spot on haha
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: inpherno on April 03, 2014, 01:33:50 AM
Paul Blackstone was not what I pictured Harry to be, but he did alright in the series.  His last name made him a good choice by itself.  James Marsters' voice acting makes me want to nominate him to play our hero.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 04, 2014, 09:21:41 PM
I've looked Dylan O'Brian each session on teen Wolf, but his performance in s3p2 was epic. I now want him to be someone in a Dresden show/movie. he might be to young for butters, and to small for Borden, but he needs to be cast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on April 07, 2014, 12:58:29 PM
Charlize is *WAY* too tall for Murphy.  Speaking of unhinged, I think she'd make an excellent Mab
Youre not wrong, but then Hugh Jackman was WAAAY too tall to play Wolverine and he did a fine job.  Massive height differences work fine in print, but when you actually have to start framing a shot around one character that is staring at the navel of the other it gets problematic.  As long as Harry is at least a few inches taller than Murphy Im happpy, it doesnt actually have to be a 5'0" to 6'5", or whatever their extreme heights are
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on April 09, 2014, 10:02:44 PM
Youre not wrong, but then Hugh Jackman was WAAAY too tall to play Wolverine and he did a fine job.  Massive height differences work fine in print, but when you actually have to start framing a shot around one character that is staring at the navel of the other it gets problematic.  As long as Harry is at least a few inches taller than Murphy Im happpy, it doesnt actually have to be a 5'0" to 6'5", or whatever their extreme heights are

OK--I remember this popular "dad/hero" type actor that I've always pictured in Michael's role, but can't remember his name or what shows he played it!  ARRRR--curse us and crusssh us!  Been buggin' me since I first met MC.  He had dark brown, almost black hair, some gray.  Usually in a quasi-"Beatles" type haircut, thick mustache, gentle demeanor, usually soft-spoken.  Frequently played a small-town sheriff or cop, usually single parent with a kid or two.  Wore flannel work shirts when not wearing cop uniforms.

Can anybody tell me who this is?  He's best fit for Michael Carpenter.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 09, 2014, 10:30:44 PM
OK--I remember this popular "dad/hero" type actor that I've always pictured in Michael's role, but can't remember his name or what shows he played it!  ARRRR--curse us and crusssh us!  Been buggin' me since I first met MC.  He had dark brown, almost black hair, some gray.  Usually in a quasi-"Beatles" type haircut, thick mustache, gentle demeanor, usually soft-spoken.  Frequently played a small-town sheriff or cop, usually single parent with a kid or two.  Wore flannel work shirts when not wearing cop uniforms.

Can anybody tell me who this is?  He's best fit for Michael Carpenter.

Sam Elliott?
(http://www.nndb.com/people/607/000024535/sam-el-sized.jpg)
(http://www.emmys.com/sites/default/files/styles/bio_pics_detail/public/2013/08/sam-elliott_0.jpg?itok=gjfVD5bQ)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on April 10, 2014, 12:31:31 PM
If that's him now Id say he's too old for Michael, but would work for several of the older wizards (McCoy, maybe Langrty or Lafortier)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: PilgrimDan on April 11, 2014, 09:39:50 PM
Sam Elliott would be terrific as Eb. Either him or Tommy Lee Jones.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 11, 2014, 10:54:11 PM
Sam Elliott would be terrific as Eb. Either him or Tommy Lee Jones.
I think he's too tall for the traditional Eb.  Eb's supposed to be short.  Elliot is 6'2".  I picture more of a Brimley, or Bobby from Supernatural, for Eb.  Elliot might make a good wizard, but he's very western American, and all the other elder wizards are European. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on April 12, 2014, 12:06:36 AM
Sam Elliott?
(http://www.nndb.com/people/607/000024535/sam-el-sized.jpg)
(http://www.emmys.com/sites/default/files/styles/bio_pics_detail/public/2013/08/sam-elliott_0.jpg?itok=gjfVD5bQ)

No, not him.  This guy had a higher voice, no "western" (or southern?) accent.  Can't recall his name.  Drivin' me (more) nuts.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 12, 2014, 02:07:57 AM
No, not him.  This guy had a higher voice, no "western" (or southern?) accent.  Can't recall his name.  Drivin' me (more) nuts.
Are you thinking from movies, or television shows? 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on April 12, 2014, 04:16:23 AM
Are you thinking from movies, or television shows?

Mostly TV.  I think he was in some movies, but hard to say.  Most of my recollections of TV come from airport lobbies...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 02, 2014, 12:49:17 AM
I have to say, up until very recently, I saw no redeeming qualities about Grant Ward, a character on Marvel's Agents of Shield.  He's played by Brett Dalton, and he was my least favorite character.  But recently, there have been some new developments, and I'm looking at the character, and the actor playing him, in a new light.  And suddenly it popped into my head.

At least physically, Brett Dalton can pull off Harry.  We'll have to see if his acting range improves, and I don't know if he could deliver snark.  I still think the best physical and snark fit for Harry is Eric Balfour.

Is Dalton too pretty to play Harry?
(http://www.theplotbunnies.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/ward-smoulder.jpg)
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/39875/3767240-9108321182-MAoS-.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 02, 2014, 01:29:36 PM
I have to say, up until very recently, I saw no redeeming qualities about Grant Ward, a character on Marvel's Agents of Shield.  He's played by Brett Dalton, and he was my least favorite character.  But recently, there have been some new developments, and I'm looking at the character, and the actor playing him, in a new light.  And suddenly it popped into my head.

At least physically, Brett Dalton can pull off Harry.  We'll have to see if his acting range improves, and I don't know if he could deliver snark.  I still think the best physical and snark fit for Harry is Eric Balfour.

Is Dalton too pretty to play Harry?
I think so, but only because you'd want there to be a marked contrast between him and Thomas. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Longfellow on May 02, 2014, 01:32:55 PM
Per the WOJ, it doesnt' matter to him what the actor looks like, it is how well they can play the character.

I'm 50/50 between Jim and some of you that feel the actor should look as much like the character as possible. 

However, here are some of my pet peeves regarding picking actors for my all-time favorite book series:

The "DO's"....
1.  They DO need to be of the same gender as the character in the book.
2.  They DO need to reflect their character's background, for example, if their character was born and raised in Chicago, then they should have a Chicago accent.
3.  They DO need to portray the personality of the character somewhat close to how he/she was described in the books.  Don't be one of those actors that doesn't even look at the books because they are so arrogant that they want to "put their own spin on the character".  These are established characters, don't think you can just go ahead and completely re-create them just because YOU are an AC-tor! 

The "DO NOT's"....
1.  They do NOT need to be the same height as the character is described in the book
2.  They do NOT need to have the same exact hair color, length of hair, or the same number of gray hairs!
3.  They do NOT need to be of the same color skin as the character in the book.

That being said, the lead actors probably should resemble their characters as much as possible, but as you get into the supporting cast, you can pretty much just get actors that will play the character well, not worrying too much about appearance, unless it relates directly to the story line.


Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 02, 2014, 02:23:23 PM
Per the WOJ, it doesnt' matter to him what the actor looks like, it how well the can play the character.
Meh, if they ever do it Im not going to complain, we're just daydreaming about ideals here.
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1.  They DO need to be of the same gender as the character in the book.
90% of the time yes, but Elementary proved to me that it can work great sometimes.
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2.  They DO need to reflect their character's background, for example, if their character was born and raised in Chicago, then they should have a Chicago accent.
Aggreed, I so very tired of every foreigner having a genrically british accent.  But if it is set in that location then I prefer to tone down the accents as a whole.  So if its set in Chicago you dont need every character with a thick Chicago accent
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3.  They DO need to portray the personality of the character somewhat close to how he/she was described in the books.  Don't be one of those actors that doesn't even look at the books because they are so arrogant that they want to "put their own spin on the character".  These are established characters, don't think you can just go ahead and completely re-create them just because YOU are an AC-tor! 
The only time Im ok with that sort of re-imagining is when A) the character as written just wouldnt translate to the screen for some odd reason (CGI notwithstanding) or B) its part of a larger re-imagining, usually because of cultural changes because it was written in a Present that was decades ago. 
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The "DO NOT's"....
1.  They do NOT need to be the same height as the character is described in the book
Aggreed, but it is nice if possible, especially when the height it a relevant plot of character point.  Hugh Jackman is a fantastic wolverine, but he's huge. Originally the character's nature was influenced heavily by his Napoleon complex, especially when interacting with Cyclops who was a full foot taller (5'3" vs 6'3")
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2.  They do NOT need to have the same exact hair color, length of hair, or the same number of gray hairs!
3.  They do NOT need to be of the same color skin as the character in the book.
Within the bounds of plot and genetics, yes.  But if you have two character that are supposed to be biologic siblings Id prefer they stay consistent, rather than rewrite the characters, per Do#3 (Im looking at you F4 reboot)



Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Longfellow on May 03, 2014, 12:23:44 AM
If I recall, if Jim had his way, he has said that he would love Will Smith to be Harry.  I can see it, but then that would mean Thomas would have to be black too, unless Malcolm was black and Margaret was white, then they could get away with a black and white half brothers.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 05, 2014, 02:21:48 PM
If I recall, if Jim had his way, he has said that he would love Will Smith to be Harry.  I can see it, but then that would mean Thomas would have to be black too, unless Malcolm was black and Margaret was white, then they could get away with a black and white half brothers.
Really?  Last WOJ on it I recall seeing had Michael Fassbender as Harry, and it was Alexis Denisof before that
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Longfellow on May 06, 2014, 01:50:19 AM
Really?  Last WOJ on it I recall seeing had Michael Fassbender as Harry, and it was Alexis Denisof before that

Absolutely 100% heard "Will Smith" come out of Jim Butcher's mouth in a YouTube video for one of his Q&A sessions at a book signing.  If I'm not mistaken, it was in 2011.   
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 06, 2014, 01:49:46 PM
*twirls in place Three times, widdershins*  Serack Serack Serack, I summon THEE!!

Can you point me to this Q&A?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Serack on May 06, 2014, 02:41:26 PM
Really?  Last WOJ on it I recall seeing had Michael Fassbender as Harry, and it was Alexis Denisof before that

I'm pretty sure he said Will Smith loooong ago... like some time between 2006 and 2011 (not to narrow it down or anything).  I'm searching now.

Edit:  If you held a gun to my head, I'd guess the 2010 Powell's books Q&A (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PL8AD39CFE55BDE8A2)

And if I get that right, I'll probably stand up and do a snoopy dance
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Serack on May 06, 2014, 02:54:16 PM
BOOM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nxHxfB_ElU&list=PL8AD39CFE55BDE8A2&feature=player_detailpage#t=479) (youtube video link qued' to the time where he says it)

*snoopy dance*

Edit:  *Goes and checks*  Stupid forum search function should have pointed me right at the transcript (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,26790.msg1141296.html#msg1141296) but is stupid *mutter*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on May 06, 2014, 03:10:47 PM
I realize it's not possible, but as long as we are fantasizing about cast memebers, what do you think about the interaction we'd get with Sean Connery as Ebenezar and Alec Guiness as Langtry?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 06, 2014, 04:04:10 PM
BOOM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nxHxfB_ElU&list=PL8AD39CFE55BDE8A2&feature=player_detailpage#t=479) (youtube video link qued' to the time where he says it)

*snoopy dance*

Edit:  *Goes and checks*  Stupid forum search function should have pointed me right at the transcript (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,26790.msg1141296.html#msg1141296) but is stupid *mutter*
Damn, never actually read the transcript.    Im really intrigued about this "Enemy of the Vord" concept...I wonder if a Protoss-esk race exist in CA  8)


I realize it's not possible, but as long as we are fantasizing about cast memebers, what do you think about the interaction we'd get with Sean Connery as Ebenezar and Alec Guiness as Langtry?
Depends, would Alec be glowing blue? ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on May 06, 2014, 04:05:44 PM
Depends, would Alec be glowing blue? ;)

LOL ... does Langtry?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Serack on May 06, 2014, 04:10:09 PM
Damn, never actually read the transcript.    Im really intrigued about this "Enemy of the Vord" concept...I wonder if a Protoss-esk race exist in CA  8)

My CA WoJ fu isn't nearly as strong, but there is a WoJ that's been brought to my attention rather recently that the Vord are actually a biological colonizing agent for another entity that is dispersed intergelactically through spore like transportation

Edit:  Here are a few relevant WoJ's:

The really fun stories to write would be:
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4) About 150 years later, when Alera looks a lot more steampunky than it does currently--and when the ancient enemies of the Vord show up to scour the face of the world clean of them.

Not just /were/ grabbed.  /Are/ grabbed, on an ongoing basis.  Day after tomorrow, maybe a mechanized armored division of the US Army vanishes in a sandstorm and shows up on the plains of Placida.  It could happen!  It's how the Romans got there originally.  Week after that, maybe several square miles of the surface of some planet filled with sentient fungii suddenly replaces several acres in Maraul.  It happens on a much slower scale than that, of course, but that's the general process.

And I think I've said that when the Alerans showed up, there were several MORE sentient races, which they spent the next several centuries exterminating, and eventually came out on top of the Darwinian dogpile.

The only race that didn't get sucked there through a wormhole was the Vord.  The Vord arrived via means of old-fashioned sub-light speed spore-style dispersion from other worlds.  The Valley of Silence, in FoC, is a meteor crater.

It is my oppion that the vord are a pice of organic tech invented by some advaced race who don't live in what would be a habitable inviroment for us. They send the vord to a world like Earth or Carna the vord adapt their forms to best suit thier enemy then wipe out all life and begin altering the atmosphere and soil to better suit the needs their creators. My main reason for thinking this comes from when Amara is speaking with the queen in AF and she speaks of the "Great Purpose".
God I love it when someone picks up the little puzzle pieces I don't illuminate with a spotlight and puts them together. :)  I mean, I'm not even trying to hide the big plot tropes, like the identity of Tavi's parents and so on.  They're staples of the fantasy genre.  It's the smaller details and background and the character conflict/interests that are happening beneath the surface that I've tried to put extra work into.  It's really gratifying to see that readers are smart and that they're connecting the dots.

Very astute inductive reasoning, divad. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 06, 2014, 05:34:15 PM
Speaking of Senior Council...

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Senior_Council_zps6f959acd.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 06, 2014, 07:38:40 PM
My CA WoJ fu isn't nearly as strong, but there is a WoJ that's been brought to my attention rather recently that the Vord are actually a biological colonizing agent for another entity that is dispersed intergelactically through spore like transportation

So would the the "Ancient Enemy" be a rival of the Parent Race, or the Parent Race itself cleaning up after their terraforming tech?  Or the rival terriforming tech of a Rival Parent Race?


Speaking of Senior Council...

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Senior_Council_zps6f959acd.png)
I like your Rashid and McCoy, but the rest are way too young for my tastes as SC members.  And Mai specifically would need to be a tiny and frail looking old woman, to my mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 06, 2014, 10:54:38 PM

I like your Rashid and McCoy, but the rest are way too young for my tastes as SC members.  And Mai specifically would need to be a tiny and frail looking old woman, to my mind.

the idea is to cast young and have subtle makeup age them, so the actors age into the roll rather than age out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 07, 2014, 01:06:38 PM
the idea is to cast young and have subtle makeup age them, so the actors age into the roll rather than age out.
Thats actually a fantastic idea! 

Though I still say Hugh Laurie would be the absolute perfect Langtry. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Longfellow on May 07, 2014, 01:43:20 PM
*twirls in place Three times, widdershins*  Serack Serack Serack, I summon THEE!!

Can you point me to this Q&A?

Unfortunately, I don't have an eidetic memory, nor do I keep a journal of my YouTube viewing history.  If I locate it again, I'll be sure to notify you appropriately. 



Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 07, 2014, 02:18:38 PM
Unfortunately, I don't have an eidetic memory, nor do I keep a journal of my YouTube viewing history.  If I locate it again, I'll be sure to notify you appropriately.
You missed the Snoopy dance, Serack already found it  :)


BOOM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nxHxfB_ElU&list=PL8AD39CFE55BDE8A2&feature=player_detailpage#t=479) (youtube video link qued' to the time where he says it)

*snoopy dance*

Edit:  *Goes and checks*  Stupid forum search function should have pointed me right at the transcript (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,26790.msg1141296.html#msg1141296) but is stupid *mutter*


Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Longfellow on May 07, 2014, 02:32:39 PM
Unfortunately, I don't have an eidetic memory, nor do I keep a journal of my YouTube viewing history.  If I locate it again, I'll be sure to notify you appropriately.

Actually, my memory is better than I thought it was, and it is NOT the same video that Serack posted (I haven't even seen that video yet).  Here is where I found the Will Smith comment: 

Minute 10:40 mark -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjGvwXSdIzY

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 07, 2014, 02:46:33 PM
It was also in the transcript thread he linked:
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Audience:   So, who plays Harry Dresden in this hypothetical movie?
Jim Butcher:   Who plays Harry Dresden in this hypothetical movie?  I don't know.  There's been all kinds of different people giving suggestions.  I always kind of liked Will Smith, just because he has the right attitude. (laughter)  But now he's gone to hit the gym and he's gotten all buff and stuff, now.  So, I don't know.  Right here.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on May 07, 2014, 03:50:12 PM
Ok, I've finally decided to post here because I want to do a few comments.
I always pictured MArtha Liberty as a middle aged even old woman. Something along the lines of Diahann Carroll. I approve your choices for Rashid and McCoy too, Gryff. Mai has always beeing Michelle Yeoh in my mind.
Rasins, Sean Connery is Morgan for me  :). Richard Harris or Alec Guiness would have been Langtry. Hugh JAckman is a quite good realistic option.

Since Agents of Shield began I thought Grant Ward looked very much like my mind's Dresden. And, of course, Thomas is Matt Bomer, no other option.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 08, 2014, 07:52:40 AM
I think so, but only because you'd want there to be a marked contrast between him and Thomas.

Yeah, when I first saw the photo I thought Thomas, even though my pick for that role is Michael Wincott (who I still think is a better fit).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 08, 2014, 08:01:31 AM
I realize it's not possible, but as long as we are fantasizing about cast memebers, what do you think about the interaction we'd get with Sean Connery as Ebenezar and Alec Guiness as Langtry?

Nah.  Sean Connery is Sir Stuart.  Christopher Lee is Langtry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: hank the ancient on May 10, 2014, 02:46:25 AM
I prefer Terrence Stamp for Langtry. That way we get General Zod levels of annoyance with Harry's shenanigans.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: PJKats on May 12, 2014, 02:29:04 AM
After recently seeing the movie, Divergent, I'm voting for Theo James as Harry. I was stunned when I saw him onscreen as he is the image of the Harry Dresden that I have in my head. Of course, he needs a few inches of height but 6' 1" isn't too bad. Also, my image of Harry has thinner lips. I love the 'resonant baritone' of Theo's voiced as well.

I'd post a photo but I just can 't figure out how to do that on my smart phone. Hey, I'm old...  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 19, 2014, 08:57:48 PM
I always pictured Mai is waaay older than those. Even with make-up they would seem too physically robust.  Maiis always described as seemingly eggshell frail.  And while most of the rest of the SC would fall in the robust-middle-age to active-retirement-age, Mai is stuck in my head as being well past 70, in terms of appearance.  This doesnt quite fit with her initial description of having "delicate features only lightly touched by the passage of years, though her dark eyes were rheumy"  but it's pretty well stuck in my mind. 

Not unlike how Morgan was a tall black man for the longest time, thanks to the TV show
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 20, 2014, 09:29:41 AM

Not unlike how Morgan was a tall black man for the longest time, thanks to the TV show

I never saw any of the TV episodes until after having read the books.  Don't remember how many were out then, but was not favorably impressed with the TV version.  But then that pretty much applies to whatever I see on TV on the very rare occasions when I'm subjected to it (don't know how to turn my wife's TV on, and am quite content with that).  But the image that stuck in my head for Morgan was that of Lani Tupu in his role as the "Peacekeeper" on Farscape (got a DVD of a few episodes of that).

I didn't ask for that image to be there.  It just was.  Just like no matter how hard I try, the Naagloshii looks like Jim Carey in a yellow Grinch suit with claws.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 20, 2014, 01:07:18 PM
I didn't ask for that image to be there.  It just was.  Just like no matter how hard I try, the Naagloshii looks like Jim Carey in a yellow Grinch suit with claws.
...Thanks, that will be his new look in my mind from now on.  Congrats, Mr Carey, you are now chewing off the fingers of beautiful women in my mind.  And you thought Kick Ass 2 was bad... :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on May 20, 2014, 06:50:03 PM
...no matter how hard I try, the Naagloshii looks like Jim Carey in a yellow Grinch suit with claws.

I had the *same* visualization!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on May 20, 2014, 06:52:35 PM
Absolutely 100% heard "Will Smith" come out of Jim Butcher's mouth in a YouTube video for one of his Q&A sessions at a book signing.  If I'm not mistaken, it was in 2011.

He also said Will Smith in the Reddit AMA he did last week...or at least, someone mentioned it and he responded positively.  He also said, several times, that he thinks the best way to do another TV series or movie would be animated - and I tend to agree.  But the fantasy casting is still fun...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on May 20, 2014, 06:54:21 PM
I think I may have said this before, but now that I've seen him as a vampire in "Only Lovers Left Alive" (which was great), I'm going with Tom Hiddleston as Thomas.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3606366208/tt1714915?ref_=ttmi_mi_all_sf_4 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3606366208/tt1714915?ref_=ttmi_mi_all_sf_4)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 21, 2014, 10:04:13 AM
...Thanks, that will be his new look in my mind from now on.  Congrats, Mr Carey, you are now chewing off the fingers of beautiful women in my mind.  And you thought Kick Ass 2 was bad... :-\

Sorry, Quantus...

That was how he popped into my head the first time I read the description of him, and it's been there ever since.  No amount of brain bleach helps.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 21, 2014, 10:07:22 AM
I had the *same* visualization!!!

I suspect a lot of folks did, but won't admit it.  And again, I didn't ask for it.  That's what reading the description gave me.  Just like the first time I read a description of Will Borden, he became Jack Black.  Been that way ever since.  Same for John Marcone--Robert Loggia.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on May 21, 2014, 10:59:37 AM
I suspect a lot of folks did, but won't admit it.  And again, I didn't ask for it.  That's what reading the description gave me.  Just like the first time I read a description of Will Borden, he became Jack Black.  Been that way ever since.  Same for John Marcone--Robert Loggia.

I've got that with Johnny Galecki for Butters and Ray Wise for Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 21, 2014, 12:44:39 PM
Ray Wise is a quintessential Mafia villain, but I cant see him being as personally formidable as Marcone needs to be.  Maronce is a guy who can run atop trains battling demons and accurately throw knives at distance while hanging upside down in the dark. 


Who should Jeremy Irons play?  He needs to be in it and could fit several characters I think
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on May 21, 2014, 01:02:47 PM
Ray Wise is a quintessential Mafia villain, but I cant see him being as personally formidable as Marcone needs to be.  Maronce is a guy who can run atop trains battling demons and accurately throw knives at distance while hanging upside down in the dark. 


Who should Jeremy Irons play?  He needs to be in it and could fit several characters I think
Ray Wise got stuck in my head before I knew Marcone was such a bad ass and I haven't been able to get over it :-)

Jeremy Irons...good question...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 21, 2014, 04:06:38 PM
I could see him as a Nic, a Cristos, maaaybe a La Fortier, and most any of the incidental villains. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Phariah on May 21, 2014, 07:13:20 PM
kk so did this quick so I could get the picks that popped into my head, figuring they would be the 1s to invoke the character more so.

Harry = Eric Balfour
Thomas = Jared Padalecki
Murphy = Emily Rose   (sorry she just fits in my mind as perfect )
Morgan = Idris Elba  (influenced by the TV show DF, also his attitude he gives in his roles fits )
Eb = Jim Beaver   (ever since I first read Eb he has fit the appearance an attitude best )
Molly = Kaley Cuoco   ( beautiful and has that sarcastic comedy down )
Lea = Angelina Jolie  (she seems a better choice for the playful Lea)
Mab = Charlize Theron  ( she would play the more serious Mab )
Merlin = Liam Neesim 
Butters = Johnny Galecki or Brian Dietzen  (either 1 would be great they both evoke that image and attitude of Butters)
Nic = Mark Sheppard  (influenced by his roles in Leverage and Supernatural, he fits Nic in my mind)
Carlos = Wilmer Valderrama 
Marcone = Jim Caviezel  ( was thinking George Clooney but he needed to be dangerous so Jim popped into mind )
Mac = Bruce Willis  ( influenced by someone else's post and couldn't deny it )
Susan = Sarah Shahi
Kincaid = Eric Christian Olsen   ( has the height and sandy blonde look, also tactical experience from NCIS LA )



Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 21, 2014, 08:19:59 PM
kk so did this quick so I could get the picks that popped into my head, figuring they would be the 1s to invoke the character more so.

Harry = Eric Balfour
Thomas = Jared Padalecki
Murphy = Emily Rose   (sorry she just fits in my mind as perfect )
Morgan = Idris Elba  (influenced by the TV show DF, also his attitude he gives in his roles fits )
Eb = Jim Beaver   (ever since I first read Eb he has fit the appearance an attitude best )
Molly = Kaley Cuoco   ( beautiful and has that sarcastic comedy down )
Lea = Angelina Jolie  (she seems a better choice for the playful Lea)
Mab = Charlize Theron  ( she would play the more serious Mab )
Merlin = Liam Neesim 
Butters = Johnny Galecki or Brian Dietzen  (either 1 would be great they both evoke that image and attitude of Butters)
Nic = Mark Sheppard  (influenced by his roles in Leverage and Supernatural, he fits Nic in my mind)
Carlos = Wilmer Valderrama 
Marcone = Jim Caviezel  ( was thinking George Clooney but he needed to be dangerous so Jim popped into mind )
Mac = Bruce Willis  ( influenced by someone else's post and couldn't deny it )
Susan = Sarah Shahi
Kincaid = Eric Christian Olsen   ( has the height and sandy blonde look, also tactical experience from NCIS LA )

I like and dislike some of the choices, but I'm glad someone else is on the Eric Balfour train. he does snark so well.  and he just looks like a wizard. if only he didn't have so much muscle.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Phariah on May 21, 2014, 08:26:38 PM
Balfour can do the serious / wiseass mix so well.

just curious who you liked as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 24, 2014, 06:50:15 AM

Who should Jeremy Irons play?  He needs to be in it and could fit several characters I think

I see Jeremy Irons as Grevane or as DuMorne.  I admit surprise that no one seems willing to consider Robert Loggia as Marcone, 'cause he's got that "quiet but deadly" persona down.  Read any lengthy dialogue by Marcone and imagine Loggia speaking the lines.  Fits perfectly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Phariah on May 24, 2014, 07:11:17 AM
I see Jeremy Irons as Grevane or as DuMorne.  I admit surprise that no one seems willing to consider Robert Loggia as Marcone, 'cause he's got that "quiet but deadly" persona down.  Read any lengthy dialogue by Marcone and imagine Loggia speaking the lines.  Fits perfectly.
cant picture him hanging upside down an throwing a knife, or swinging out of a copter w/ a rifle, or running along a train shooting tbh. it is more than just dialogue. he needs to do action and be fit. Loggia doesn't do it for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on May 24, 2014, 06:22:20 PM
I see Jeremy Irons as Grevane or as DuMorne.  I admit surprise that no one seems willing to consider Robert Loggia as Marcone, 'cause he's got that "quiet but deadly" persona down.  Read any lengthy dialogue by Marcone and imagine Loggia speaking the lines.  Fits perfectly.
I agree about Grevane or DuMorne. But not about Loggia, he doesn't seem good for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 24, 2014, 08:04:30 PM
cant picture him hanging upside down an throwing a knife, or swinging out of a copter w/ a rifle, or running along a train shooting tbh. it is more than just dialogue. he needs to do action and be fit. Loggia doesn't do it for me.
For the dialoge bit sure, he right up there with De Niro.  But I cant see This man doing the action sequences Marcone needs to be capable of.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 24, 2014, 11:12:42 PM
I'm always surprised how old people go when casting for Marcone.  I know he's supposed to be old enough to run a criminal organization, but he's around the same age as the Beckitts. 

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That's why I'd cast him younger, with someone like Adrian Pasdar.  He can do cold, shark-like, or a disarming smile.  He's fit enough to be the active Marcone, but has a weight to him that makes you feel like he has authority.  He played football when he was younger, so he even falls into the "Marcone looks like a football coach" description.
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You team him up with John Cena as Hendricks, and you've got yourself some mobsters.
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And as for Miss Gard, January Jones
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Cujo Hendricks had a date. He had a blond date. He had a gorgeous, leggy, blue-eyed, elegant, tall, Nordic angel of a date. She was wearing a white gown, and silver flashed at her throat, on each wrist, and on one ankle. I’d seen bikinis in issues of Sports Illustrated that might have felt too plain to be worn by Hendricks’s date.
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on May 24, 2014, 11:23:15 PM
I'm not sure Cena would take a part to play such a chatterbox like Hendrix.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on May 24, 2014, 11:27:12 PM
I agree about the age, but not about Pasdar because he did make me thing he would order his men to rip my limbs off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 25, 2014, 05:11:15 AM
For the dialoge bit sure, he right up there with De Niro.  But I cant see This man doing the action sequences Marcone needs to be capable of.

Well, I admit your photo is a lot older looking that the last time I saw him ("Independence Day"), which is how I picture him as Marcone.  But hell, he probably was that old when he did ID.  A lot of celebrities sans makeup look like crap.  As for the action sequences, I don't think but maybe a handful of the world's greatest martial artists could actually pull off the knife-trick from FM.  That's what CG is for.  It's why we didn't see decent movies of Marvel Superheroes until there was CG.
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Phariah on May 26, 2014, 03:19:14 PM
sorry Loggia does not evoke a " Predator", feel. physically, appearance wise, nor otherwise. Jim Caviezel, when I see him doing POI I can totally get a Marcone feel from him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on May 26, 2014, 04:21:31 PM
Well, I admit your photo is a lot older looking that the last time I saw him ("Independence Day"), which is how I picture him as Marcone.  But hell, he probably was that old when he did ID.  A lot of celebrities sans makeup look like crap.  As for the action sequences, I don't think but maybe a handful of the world's greatest martial artists could actually pull off the knife-trick from FM.  That's what CG is for.  It's why we didn't see decent movies of Marvel Superheroes until there was CG.

Loggia wasn't exactly young in Independence Day and that was 20 years ago.  Also, I just don't see him as Marcone.  I've always had an image of Eric Roberts as Marcone when I read the books.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 27, 2014, 04:05:16 AM
Loggia wasn't exactly young in Independence Day and that was 20 years ago.  Also, I just don't see him as Marcone.  I've always had an image of Eric Roberts as Marcone when I read the books.

He was occasionally described as "fatherly-looking" in DF.  I have always envisioned Loggia for that role--the smooth, relaxed and intent persona that fits quite well with "predator".  Works for tigers...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: cptnspldng on May 27, 2014, 12:01:55 PM
Can I nominate Jeffrey Tambor for Goodman Grey?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Amber on May 27, 2014, 03:43:52 PM
I don't usually pop into casting threads, but my hubby and I just binge watched the last season of Once Upon a Time, and the guy that plays Hook took the place of my mental Harry.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1524440/?ref_=tt_cl_t9

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 28, 2014, 07:03:06 PM
Can I nominate Jeffrey Tambor for Goodman Grey?

Although no one can accuse me of being a "playground monitor" by any means, that comment should probably be moved to the "DF Spoiler" section and be put into a "spoiler" cover.

In reply, the character is still to new to me to have fully formed an image yet (I'm only to Chapter 24).  The half-formed ones kinda resemble that of
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 29, 2014, 10:52:28 PM
     I like Rufus Sewell for Thomas Raith. He looks 'French' enough to run his hair styling boutique.

I'd say my choice for that role was Michael Wincott, but it wasn't a choice.  By the time Thomas' character was developed enough to merit attention as a major character (as I recall even before he was revealed to be Harry's brother) he looked like Michael Wincott in my head.  If it was a choice, it wasn't a conscious one.

Same for Will Borden.  He's Jack Black.  Has been from the very beginning.  Morgan was Lani Tupu.  Marcone was Robert Loggia.  The Naagloshii was Jim Carey in a yellow "Grinch" costume.  I actively fought AGAINST that mental picture.  It won't go away, like getting part of a song you hate stuck in your head.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: biffstella on May 31, 2014, 03:34:20 AM
Harry - Armie Hammer - tall (6'5") thin, could pull off the smarta** stuff
Marcone - I can't see anyone but Ray Stevenson here.  Go look at his character in
Dexter. 
Thomas - Colin Farrell - gorgeous, sexy, sweet and dangerous
Justine - Scarlett Johanssen
Butters - Jay Baruchel
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on May 31, 2014, 05:44:27 AM
I want some role for John Nolan, but I don't know what. Perhaps Merlin. He has to be old and British. He is awesome.

(http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/JohnNolan.gif)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on May 31, 2014, 10:03:03 AM
I recently started seeing Michael Kelly as Victor Sells.
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131124163132/pediaofinterest/images/d/db/Fringe_-_Michael_Kelly.jpg)[
And for some reason I can't stop seeing Patrick Stewart as Nicodemus and Michael Caine as Binder (I know they look nothing alike, but it's the accent).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 31, 2014, 06:13:20 PM
Heh.  How about Tim Curry for Nicodemus?  The magic of Hollywood makeup artists could probably make him look younger than he does now...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on May 31, 2014, 08:12:44 PM
He was the first image in my mind when Nic appeared.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 01, 2014, 01:18:53 AM
He was the first image in my mind when Nic appeared.

Great minds think alike.  Sometimes.  I admit that my first visualizations for both Morgan AND Nicodemus were Lani Tupu.  Dark hair, ponytail, beard, etc.  But Curry would work, I think.  A younger Curry DEFINITELY would have.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Lewa on June 01, 2014, 04:10:27 PM
I see Binder as Ricky Gervais, except shave his head obviously.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Eami on June 01, 2014, 08:08:47 PM
My sister sent me this picture (http://ext.pimg.tw/iloveandylinda/1346483986-3090678889.jpg) the other day labelled "Harry and Thomas"

We've liked Joe Manganiello for the role for a little while now, Jim recently agreed at a q&a (not to us though)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 01, 2014, 10:00:20 PM
I see Binder as Ricky Gervais, except shave his head obviously.

Sorry, Mark Sheppard has already been cast as Binder.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 02, 2014, 12:17:25 AM
Sorry, Mark Sheppard has already been cast as Binder.
I was all ready to tell you that rather than this Mark Sheppard person, we needed to get Crowley from Supernatural

Ironically, I didn't see Sheppard as Binder in TC, but I did in SG.  I blame the prevalence of him on all of my shows lately (last season's recurrence on White Collar; Supernatural; Warehouse 13)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 02, 2014, 04:18:06 AM
I was all ready to tell you that rather than this Mark Sheppard person, we needed to get Crowley from Supernatural

Ironically, I didn't see Sheppard as Binder in TC, but I did in SG.  I blame the prevalence of him on all of my shows lately (last season's recurrence on White Collar; Supernatural; Warehouse 13)

I can't put the blame on that.  Haven't seen him in anything since the Firefly series ('cause I have that on DVD).  Don't watch TV.  But he's been Binder since his first appearence TC for me.  Wasn't just the British accent.  I think it was Binder's style of sarcasm (similar to Badger's), and some of his expressions.

Sheppard's accent is kinda muddled, anyway--I can usually distinguish 'tween POMEs' and Aussies' 'cause two of my grandchildren have spoken the latter since birth.

But I can't distinguish in Sheppard's case.  There seems to be a little "upward" inflection at the end of most sentences in Oz-Speak that frequently makes 'em sound like questions.  Don't hear that in most UK accents, and don't hear it from Sheppard.  But otherwise (at least in his 'Badger' role) he felt Aussie...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 02, 2014, 04:20:43 AM
Mm, what about Littlefinger actor for Nic?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 02, 2014, 05:06:08 AM
Mm, what about Littlefinger actor for Nic?

Sorry, Dina...who?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 02, 2014, 05:09:33 AM
Sorry, Game of Thrones Littlefinger, I don't know the name of the actor who plays him.

(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140529082425/gameofthrones/images/thumb/1/1c/Petyr_Baelish_in_Mockingbird.png/250px-Petyr_Baelish_in_Mockingbird.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 02, 2014, 05:17:18 AM
Sorry, Game of Thrones Littlefinger, I don't know the name of the actor who plays him.

(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140529082425/gameofthrones/images/thumb/1/1c/Petyr_Baelish_in_Mockingbird.png/250px-Petyr_Baelish_in_Mockingbird.png)

Ah, gotcha.  I've read the books (more than once, and due for a reread if I can find the time), but I haven't seen the HBO series.  And no, I don't know the actor's name either.  Have the same problem with an actor who I have visualized as Michael Carpenter from the very beginning.  Simply CAN'T remember his name or what he played in, but he's perfect for the role...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 02, 2014, 06:23:05 PM
Thanks noquiexis! It's Aidan Gillen. I could have searched for it, I guess I was just having a lazy moment, sorry.
I think his voice sounds right for Nicodemus in my mind. I had pictured Nic as somebody more Latin (like Italian) but I can't think any Latin looking actor that convinces me. Aidan does a good job as a Macchiavellian character.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 03, 2014, 03:16:04 PM
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/balfour_scar_zpsb84be359.jpg)

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/bell_murphy_zps5c1dfe07.jpg)

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/jackman_carpenter_zpsf0806934.jpg)

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Moranis_Butters_zps4af4bd08.jpg)

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/mouse_zps7b5743c6.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 03, 2014, 04:28:21 PM
Griffyn612,

     Nice work! Did you do these? Good match for all of the actors (and actress) to the characters!

8) ;) 8)
It's just an online app that lets you turn a picture into a sketch.  Those are the actors I felt best capture the essence of the characters.  I decided to try and capture that essence, rather than focus on the 'casting'.

It all started with this one.  I thought it captured the moment between Mab and Harry in CD.
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/First_Command_zps6cb046dd.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 03, 2014, 05:19:14 PM
Griffyn612 wrote:
     Could we please have a link for that app? Another forum that I frequent is heavily into photography, and we are always looking for new treatments for our pictures. Thank you!

:D :) :D
Sure thing.  It's about as easy as it comes.  Just need to make sure your picture is centered correctly for what you want the focus to be.

http://photofunia.com/effects/sketch
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 03, 2014, 08:21:53 PM
Griff, who is in the third picture?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 03, 2014, 08:51:54 PM
Griff, who is in the third picture?
Hugh Jackman
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 03, 2014, 09:07:50 PM
Sorry, I was not clear. Yes, I thought he was Hugh Jackman, but what character are you proposing him to play? Michael?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 03, 2014, 09:13:53 PM
Sorry, I was not clear. Yes, I thought he was Hugh Jackman, but what character are you proposing him to play? Michael?
Yes, Michael. I've always thought he's got the size for him.  Not to mention he can do a nice beard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 03, 2014, 09:16:57 PM
All right, I can see him.
And your signature picture is wonderful!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 03, 2014, 09:28:15 PM
All right, I can see him.
And your signature picture is wonderful!
The window decal one?  It's old, and saw it was I was posting new pics to PB.  Decided to break out some of the old stuff.

And of course, everyone's Thomas from a while back.  I know not everyone liked him, but JB dropped his name once.
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Bomer_Thomas_zps72243bc6.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 03, 2014, 09:31:30 PM
He is Thomas. I can't see anyone else. He is the only one I am totally convinced. The rest, Charlize Theron is still my favorite Mab/Titania.

And yes, the window one. It's great, specially Molly's drawing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: EyeballKid on June 04, 2014, 03:46:30 AM

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/bell_murphy_zps5c1dfe07.jpg)


Kristen Bell is just about getting to the perfect age to play Murphy. Oh damn, now I'll never picture anyone other than Kristen Bell as Murphy. This could do some serious damage to my future reading that results in endless giggle fits.

And just because I'm in a Buffy mood...

I think Alexis Denisof, using his "faint British accent", could be a really creepy Nicodemus:
(http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/35300000/Alexis-Denisof-alexis-denisof-35383714-454-582.jpg)

And if not Nic, maybe Kincaid. Or somebody. Because Alexis Denisof is awesome.

Anthony Stewart Head would make an awesome, well, anybody really, but I think he'd be quite good for Vadderung or Langtry.

(http://i2.wp.com/www.percyjacksonmovies.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Chiron-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Seriphina on June 04, 2014, 05:59:22 AM
A couple of characters that I think I've got spot on. I'm on my phone so I can't post pics, but goggle them if you aren't familiar with them.

Mac - Michael Chiklis
Sanya - Djimon Hounsou
Thomas - Ben Barnes
Justine - Amanda Seyfried
Lara - Kate Beckensale
Father Forthill - Hector Elizondo
Lea - Stana Katic
Butters - TJ Thyne
Charity - Julie Benz
Ramirez - John Huertas
Marva - HBC
Bianca - Morena Baccarin
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 04, 2014, 07:29:31 AM
Kristen Bell is just about getting to the perfect age to play Murphy. Oh damn, now I'll never picture anyone other than Kristen Bell as Murphy. This could do some serious damage to my future reading that results in endless giggle fits.[/img]

Witcha on Kristen Bell as Murphy.  Perfect.  Maybe a little "aging" makeup, but not much.

But Kris Kristofferson is first pick for Vadderung.  Jeff Bridges second.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: EyeballKid on June 04, 2014, 05:52:56 PM

Butters - TJ Thyne

Now THAT would be a great choice!

Witcha on Kristen Bell as Murphy.  Perfect.  Maybe a little "aging" makeup, but not much.


She's almost mid-30's, which would make her perfect for Murphy at the beginning of the series (especially considering everyone always plays a couple years younger on TV/film).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 04, 2014, 10:29:50 PM
Now THAT would be a great choice!

I agree.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 05, 2014, 01:04:47 PM
I was stuck on DJ Squalls for Butters for the longest time.  But given the recent developments with Butters, I could see TJ Thyne beings a pretty good step up for him. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Amber on June 05, 2014, 03:45:54 PM
I posted this in the spoiler casting thread, but the more I think about it, the more I love it.

Murph:
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And my husband adds, if you're going to cast her as Murph, your Harry has already been chosen.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 05, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
I posted this in the spoiler casting thread, but the more I think about it, the more I love it.

Murph:
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And my husband adds, if you're going to cast her as Murph, your Harry has already been chosen.

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I would be totally for it except for the obvious "It's been Done" objection.  The same reason, in fact, that I do NOT want Sarah Michelle Geller as Murphy. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 05, 2014, 05:32:32 PM
LOL, those two are great together. If we wouldn't mind the exact physical description, they are perfect (she is tiny even).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Random73 on June 05, 2014, 10:06:40 PM
I was stuck on DJ Squalls for Butters for the longest time.  But given the recent developments with Butters, I could see TJ Thyne beings a pretty good step up for him.

huh.  Butters has always been Tony Shalhoub in my head. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 05, 2014, 11:12:47 PM
huh.  Butters has always been Tony Shalhoub in my head.

Huh.  I've always considered the role for Paul Giamatti--he's not precisely how I picture Butters, but he came the closest, until now.  I might have to go with Tony Shaloub.  Only thing is that I've always seen Butters as having a rounder, fuller face (more so than Shaloub)...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 06, 2014, 12:26:07 PM
Huh, thats strange to me.  In my head butters has always been younger than either of those, and a bone skinny nerdy sort
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 06, 2014, 01:20:59 PM
^ this
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on June 06, 2014, 02:49:52 PM
Huh, thats strange to me.  In my head butters has always been younger than either of those, and a bone skinny nerdy sort

This too - at least on the size. Doesn't Harry refer to Butters as "the little" this-or-that a couple of times?

Tall dude like Harry, granted, everyone's a little bit little.

Age-wise, Butters was pegged as mid-forties in SG.

Also, I am coming over here to gloat my find for Maeve from the spoilers casting thread: Jena Malone.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 06, 2014, 02:56:05 PM
This too - at least on the size. Doesn't Harry refer to Butters as "the little" this-or-that a couple of times?

Tall dude like Harry, granted, everyone's a little bit little.

Age-wise, Butters was pegged as mid-forties in SG.

Also, I am coming over here to gloat my find for Maeve from the spoilers casting thread: Jena Malone.

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Agreed. Great Maeve
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 06, 2014, 05:01:16 PM
     Paul Bettany (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0079273/) could do a good Nicodemus (or Lord Raith). He has the natural look and the voice for either part.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Paul_Bettany-Jennifer_Connelly_TIFF09.jpg/640px-Paul_Bettany-Jennifer_Connelly_TIFF09.jpg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bettany)
Paul Bettany and Jennifer Connelly at Toronto International Film Festival in 2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paul_Bettany-Jennifer_Connelly_TIFF09.jpg)
source: Wikipedia

 ;) 8) ;)

Ooooooohhhhhhh.....I could definitely get onboard with Paul Bettany for Lord Raith.  Or maybe Nic.  But I'd definitely like to see him in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 06, 2014, 05:01:36 PM
     Paul Bettany (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0079273/) could do a good Nicodemus (or Lord Raith). He has the natural look and the voice for either part.

 ;) 8) ;)[/center]
I would be more than happy with him as Nicodemus, but he's not Pretty or ageless enough for Papa Raith, plus Id want him to resemble Thomas if at all possible, which in my mind means looking like Matt Bomer

For me this is Clan Wraith:

Thomas = Matt Bomer
(http://romancebandits.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/matt-bomer.jpg)

Papa Wraith = Rob Lowe
(http://www.caroljoynt.com/.a/6a0115720d4e87970b0192aa7c6129970d-pi)

Lara and Sisters = Mary-Louise Parker, Kate Beckinsale, and Anna Silk (not sure which for lara, but probably Beckinsale for the range of scary personality)
(http://croobal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/mary-louise-parker-net-worth.jpg)(http://www.geekpeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Kate-Beckinsale.jpg)(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111122202640/lostgirl/images/f/fc/Anna_Silk.jpg)

The Twins (Madrigal and Madeline) = Ian Summerhalder and Parker Posey
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130408022201/smallville/images/0/09/Ian-Smoulder-halder-ian-somerhalder-32812636-500-700.jpg)(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BpAoKRSdVjQ/TQLpySvwQaI/AAAAAAAADiE/hpBVBJwIKgU/s320/Parker-Posey-sexy-actress.jpg)


Inari = Ellen Page
(http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2011/11/08/186798-ellen-page.jpg)

EDIT:  Fixed the broken Mott Bomer pic
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 06, 2014, 05:04:25 PM
I like your Raith!
SG Spoiler:
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 06, 2014, 05:28:44 PM
I nominate Quantas as Raith family casting director if/when a TV show or movie are made.

I would be more than happy with him as Nicodemus, but he's not Pretty or ageless enough for Papa Raith, plus Id want him to resemble Thomas if at all possible, which in my mind means looking like Matt Bomer

For me this is Clan Wraith:

Thomas = Matt Bomer
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjA5NTE4NTE5NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTcyOTY5Mw@@._V1_SY317_CR20,0,214,317_AL_.jpg)

Papa Wraith = Rob Lowe
(http://www.caroljoynt.com/.a/6a0115720d4e87970b0192aa7c6129970d-pi)

Lara and Sisters = Mary-Louise Parker, Kate Beckinsale, and Anna Silk (not sure which for lara, but probably Beckinsale for the range of scary personality)
(http://croobal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/mary-louise-parker-net-worth.jpg)(http://www.geekpeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Kate-Beckinsale.jpg)(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111122202640/lostgirl/images/f/fc/Anna_Silk.jpg)

The Twins (Madrigal and Madeline) = Ian Summerhalder and Parker Posey
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130408022201/smallville/images/0/09/Ian-Smoulder-halder-ian-somerhalder-32812636-500-700.jpg)(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BpAoKRSdVjQ/TQLpySvwQaI/AAAAAAAADiE/hpBVBJwIKgU/s320/Parker-Posey-sexy-actress.jpg)


Inari = Ellen Page
(http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2011/11/08/186798-ellen-page.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 07, 2014, 03:42:20 AM
Huh, thats strange to me.  In my head butters has always been younger than either of those, and a bone skinny nerdy sort

Yeah, I see him as skinny, and short.  But I see his face as "roundish"--maybe a little "jowly", but not in any kind of "obese" sense--picture a face shaped like Richard Nixon, but with a much narrower (non-ski slope) nose, less "scowly", more amiable expressions, hair comparable to Don King's but more black than gray and with a more receded hairline, and glasses.  That's Butters to me.  Paul Giamatti is the real-life actor that comes closest, as I said, be he still doesn't get it.  Not in the same sense as, say, I see Jack Black as perfect for Will Borden (have never pictured anyone else for the role).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on June 07, 2014, 07:09:04 AM
I nominate Quantas as Raith family casting director if/when a TV show or movie are made.

Seconded. Those are great, all of them.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Mythcantor on June 09, 2014, 06:27:26 AM
Since I binged through Veronica Mars, I've seen Kristen Bell as Karrin in my mind too. I third that nomination.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on June 09, 2014, 10:44:46 AM
Since I binged through Veronica Mars, I've seen Kristen Bell as Karrin in my mind too. I third that nomination.

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Okay, you've won me, too. AND the height's just right!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 09, 2014, 01:25:30 PM
Yeah, I see him as skinny, and short.  But I see his face as "roundish"--maybe a little "jowly", but not in any kind of "obese" sense--picture a face shaped like Richard Nixon, but with a much narrower (non-ski slope) nose, less "scowly", more amiable expressions, hair comparable to Don King's but more black than gray and with a more receded hairline, and glasses.  That's Butters to me.  Paul Giamatti is the real-life actor that comes closest, as I said, be he still doesn't get it.  Not in the same sense as, say, I see Jack Black as perfect for Will Borden (have never pictured anyone else for the role).
Seriously, Jack Black?  He'd have to really hit the gym to fit my image of Will Borden, and I think even with Hollywood Age he would be too old for the early Billy era. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 09, 2014, 02:52:05 PM
Seriously, Jack Black?  He'd have to really hit the gym to fit my image of Will Borden, and I think even with Hollywood Age he would be too old for the early Billy era.

Jack White maybe?
(http://cdn.americansongwriter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jack_white-and-coke2.jpg)

James Black?
(http://content8.flixster.com/photo/11/36/83/11368378_ori.png)

Jack's Black (label)?
(http://www.drankgigant.nl/media/catalog/product/j/a/jack_daniels_black_label_1_1.jpg)

Jack in Black Skellington?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdWTJ_RSMyuFw3UzpBuYdSBcAikYEDPRvu1mVLxrGQ4hR0uzUr)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 09, 2014, 02:53:42 PM
Full. Of. Win.
Jack White maybe?
(http://cdn.americansongwriter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jack_white-and-coke2.jpg)

James Black?
(http://content8.flixster.com/photo/11/36/83/11368378_ori.png)

Jack's Black (label)?
(http://www.drankgigant.nl/media/catalog/product/j/a/jack_daniels_black_label_1_1.jpg)

Jack in Black Skellington?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdWTJ_RSMyuFw3UzpBuYdSBcAikYEDPRvu1mVLxrGQ4hR0uzUr)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 09, 2014, 07:16:56 PM
Seriously, Jack Black?  He'd have to really hit the gym to fit my image of Will Borden, and I think even with Hollywood Age he would be too old for the early Billy era.

Maybe is a matter of perspective.  I'm 60.  Jack Black looks young to me.  In "School of Rock" he looked young enough to be Will Borden per my visualization.  Don't think that was all that long ago.  I realize he might not look so young to people who are young themselves.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 09, 2014, 07:42:05 PM
Maybe is a matter of perspective.  I'm 60.  Jack Black looks young to me.  In "School of Rock" he looked young enough to be Will Borden per my visualization.  Don't think that was all that long ago.  I realize he might not look so young to people who are young themselves.

Jack Black is 44 and School of Rock came out in 2003. He would have been 32-33 in that movie. Fool Moon came out in, what...2001? And Will was 19 or so at that time. Also, Will is pretty fit from all the werewolfing and I've never heard anyone refer to Jack Black as fit.

I can't remember JB's description, but for me Jack Black is good for Mortimer. For Will...that's a tough one. I'd say Johnny Galecki, but he's my Butters and he is too old now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 09, 2014, 07:49:55 PM
Galecki is younger than Butters in SG. I think with some characterization he could play a good young Butters. Just an option, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 09, 2014, 08:00:29 PM
Jack Black is 44 and School of Rock came out in 2003. He would have been 32-33 in that movie. Fool Moon came out in, what...2001? And Will was 19 or so at that time. Also, Will is pretty fit from all the werewolfing and I've never heard anyone refer to Jack Black as fit.

I can't remember JB's description, but for me Jack Black is good for Mortimer. For Will...that's a tough one. I'd say Johnny Galecki, but he's my Butters and he is too old now.

Hollywood makeup artists take really old, decrepit, creaky people and make them look young all the time.  Same applies with 'fit'.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Amber on June 09, 2014, 08:32:34 PM
Galecki is younger than Butters in SG. I think with some characterization he could play a good young Butters. Just an option, though.

I never thought of Galeki for Butters.  He'd be a good fit.  I'm still Team Masi Oka, but I'll take him as a servicable second ;)

Billy, I think, is someone who would be cast young & fit from the beginning, and the transformation that you see is the bad faux-goth to responsible adult.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 09, 2014, 08:35:48 PM
I never thought of Galeki for Butters.  He'd be a good fit.  I'm still Team Masi Oka, but I'll take him as a servicable second ;)

Billy, I think, is someone who would be cast young & fit from the beginning, and the transformation that you see is the bad faux-goth to responsible adult.

Agreed about Billy.  Masi Oka - like him a lot and I'd get on-board with him as Butters if the fact that Butters is Jewish wasn't about to (probably) become a Big Deal.

But, sorry Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad...I'm never going to buy Jack Black as Butters.  :-( Agree to disagree?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Amber on June 09, 2014, 08:52:34 PM
Agreed about Billy.  Masi Oka - like him a lot and I'd get on-board with him as Butters if the fact that Butters is Jewish wasn't about to (probably) become a Big Deal.

Oka plays a Jewish ME named Max Bergman on Hawaii 5-0.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 09, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
Oka plays a Jewish ME named Max Bergman on Hawaii 5-0.

Interesting...although that makes me want to see him in the role of Butters LESS.  I don't want to just see an actor play the same character over and over.

Plus, given his fascination with polka, I'd assume Butters is of German descent.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 09, 2014, 09:03:30 PM
Agreed about Billy.  Masi Oka - like him a lot and I'd get on-board with him as Butters if the fact that Butters is Jewish wasn't about to (probably) become a Big Deal.

But, sorry Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad...I'm never going to buy Jack Black as Butters.  :-( Agree to disagree?

What we have here is a failure to communicate.   ;)  I have always visualized Jack Black as Will Borden, not Butters.  My pick for Butters (I'm the first to acknowledge it's not perfect) is Paul Giamatti.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 09, 2014, 09:08:19 PM
Plus, given his fascination with polka, I'd assume Butters is of German descent.

C'mon!  Others besides Germans have atrocious musical tastes!  Otherwise we wouldn't have been afflicted with Pat Boone, Tammy Wynette, the Osmonds, Justin Bieber etc...  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 09, 2014, 09:11:11 PM
I could buy Jack Black as butters far easier than Will Borden.  He's not how I picture butters personally (I see as very very skinny nerd) but would not otherwise go against the character;  Galeki is an interesting choice for the same reasons, but is better more proven at the timid nerd coming out of his shell bit.  I could actually see Galeki as a pretty good Billy Borden if he was cast to fit the FM version and then were to grow into the more physically formidable Will as the series progressed. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 09, 2014, 09:22:56 PM
What we have here is a failure to communicate.   ;)  I have always visualized Jack Black as Will Borden, not Butters.  My pick for Butters (I'm the first to acknowledge it's not perfect) is Paul Giamatti.

Sorry, I did mean Will Borden
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: EyeballKid on June 09, 2014, 10:41:40 PM
I actually like the idea of Galecki for Butters quite a bit. He's likable, dorky, and has great comedic timing. By the later books, he'd have a chance to showcase a lot more dramatic acting, too, so he'd have some range to worth with.

Billy the Werewolf, and all other werewolves in his group, are young when they first show up in the series. If any type of adaptation goes forward, they should certainly be cast with actors no older than early 20's.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 10, 2014, 03:17:48 PM
Billy the Werewolf, and all other werewolves in his group, are young when they first show up in the series. If any type of adaptation goes forward, they should certainly be cast with actors no older than early 20's.
Well, hollywood has a long habit of casting 30+ year old actors as high school kids, so I wouldnt take that alone as definitive.  I agree they should be cast young, but part of that is so that they can more visibly mature over the course of the series.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on June 10, 2014, 05:24:30 PM
I have a hard time seeing Jack Black as Will mostly because I just can't see Jack Black fitting with Will's personality and character, but also because he's too old.  Jack Black is just too much of a goof off (most of his movies that I can think of) or even a bit shady and amoral (thinking of his character in King Kong).  I'm sure there's a much better choice for Will out there

Plus, given his fascination with polka, I'd assume Butters is of German descent.

Actually, fun music fact here, polka music is Czech by origin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Seriphina on June 10, 2014, 10:59:50 PM
Keven Zegers would make a good Will.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 11, 2014, 12:02:30 AM
I just googled it. I think it's a good choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 11, 2014, 12:48:44 PM
Keven Zegers would make a good Will.
I could see that. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Mythcantor on June 11, 2014, 01:42:50 PM
(Googles him)

This guy?

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He seems to young and fit to me. Butters always seemed a bit more scrawny and maybe a bit more middle aged to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 11, 2014, 02:02:44 PM
(Googles him)

This guy?

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He seems to young and fit to me. Butters always seemed a bit more scrawny and maybe a bit more middle aged to me.
For Will Borden, not for Butters
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 11, 2014, 02:04:05 PM
(Googles him)

This guy?

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He seems to young and fit to me. Butters always seemed a bit more scrawny and maybe a bit more middle aged to me.

Yeah, he's kind of young and pretty to play Butters. He's just now 30.  Also, I hate to harp on the height thing, but he's 5'10".  JB is specific about Butters height - I could give a couple inches leeway, but not 7" (and therefore average height).

I still really like Johnny Galecki for Butters, but if not him then maybe David Krumholtz?
(http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/la/tca_party_200708/david_krumholtz_1984631.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 11, 2014, 02:07:52 PM
For Will Borden, not for Butters

Hmmm...maybe for Will.  Still kinda tall though.  I feel like Will (and all the Alphas) should be some young, unknown actors that can grow into/with the roles.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Mythcantor on June 11, 2014, 02:09:10 PM
For Will Borden, not for Butters

Yikes. I blame the tired. It's apparently going around.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 11, 2014, 02:13:08 PM
Its the second time I've done it in this threat, this week.  Sorry :-/

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt2ifcsZ221qii6tmo1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 11, 2014, 02:15:11 PM
Yeah, he's kind of young and pretty to play Butters. He's just now 30.  Also, I hate to harp on the height thing, but he's 5'10".  JB is specific about Butters height - I could give a couple inches leeway, but not 7" (and therefore average height).
They are almost certainly going to have to shrink down the dramatic height differences in the story, if only for the practical considerations of having to frame a shot with all these people for conversations. 
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I still really like Johnny Galecki for Butters, but if not him then maybe David Krumholtz?
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I like it.  Galecki has the personality, but his bone structure is a little more round-faced than I picture Butters.  Krumholtz is just as good for personality, a bit more stereotypically jewish which is a plus I suppose, and more along the lines of the lanky build I imagine
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 11, 2014, 02:24:04 PM
They are almost certainly going to have to shrink down the dramatic height differences in the story, if only for the practical considerations of having to frame a shot with all these people for conversations.  I like it.  Galecki has the personality, but his bone structure is a little more round-faced than I picture Butters.  Krumholtz is just as good for personality, a bit more stereotypically jewish which is a plus I suppose, and more along the lines of the lanky build I imagine

Yeah, I understand about the height differences and it not being realistic. I certainly don't expect a 6'8 or 9" actor to play Harry nor a 5'1" actress to play Murphy. But I feel like the proportion and "look" should be there for characters JB has specifically given height info for. So, like, you shouldn't have a 6' Harry and a 5'10" Murphy. And some people *look* shorter or taller than they actually are. For example, in another group someone suggested Katheryn Winnick for Murphy. I love her, but not for Murphy. She's only 5'6", which should work, but to me she *appears* too tall to be tiny but fierce (I would also argue she is too gorgeous/hot to be cute-as-a-button, but that's a different conversation.)

So, someone 5'10" *could* play Will if he looked stocky and was paired with a willowy (not necessarily taller) Georgia
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Post by: frankcesca on June 11, 2014, 02:27:06 PM
Yeah, he's kind of young and pretty to play Butters. He's just now 30.  Also, I hate to harp on the height thing, but he's 5'10".  JB is specific about Butters height - I could give a couple inches leeway, but not 7" (and therefore average height).

I still really like Johnny Galecki for Butters, but if not him then maybe David Krumholtz?
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Mr. Universe for Butters?! Yesplz!
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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 14, 2014, 09:11:47 AM
Yeah, I understand about the height differences and it not being realistic. I certainly don't expect a 6'8 or 9" actor to play Harry nor a 5'1" actress to play Murphy. But I feel like the proportion and "look" should be there for characters JB has specifically given height info for. So, like, you shouldn't have a 6' Harry and a 5'10" Murphy. And some people *look* shorter or taller than they actually are. For example, in another group someone suggested Katheryn Winnick for Murphy. I love her, but not for Murphy. She's only 5'6", which should work, but to me she *appears* too tall to be tiny but fierce (I would also argue she is too gorgeous/hot to be cute-as-a-button, but that's a different conversation.)

So, someone 5'10" *could* play Will if he looked stocky and was paired with a willowy (not necessarily taller) Georgia

They got around pretty serious height difference requirements in the Lord of the Rings by making use of "perspective" shots and use of kids for scenes where the hobbits' faces weren't shown.  If they can accommodate hobbits vs. Gandalf, Aragorn etc, they could accommodate Harry vs. Murphy the same way, I think...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 14, 2014, 06:04:17 PM
IIRC, John Rhys-Davies (Gimli) was actually taller than most of his Fellowship colleagues.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 15, 2014, 12:41:34 PM
I read somewhere that $100m of the $300m budget for LotR was special effects.

A lot of that was probably fight scenes, but a huge chunk probably went to shrinking people down.

I can't see a studio agreeing to pay biff money to shrink down or up a couple characters. they'd just cast differently if it were that important.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on June 15, 2014, 12:53:41 PM
Another thought for Butters - has anyone suggested Simon Helberg yet? (Moist from Dr. Horrible and he plays someone on the Big Bang Theory)

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Post by: AndiSue on June 15, 2014, 02:07:56 PM
Frankceska, you are brilliant! FYI...Simon Helberg plays Howard Wolowitz on Big Bang Theory. I don't know why I never thought of him for Butters before. He's perfect! And that frees up Johnny Galecki for Will Borden in my fantasy cast.

Another thought for Butters - has anyone suggested Simon Helberg yet? (Moist from Dr. Horrible and he plays someone on the Big Bang Theory)

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Post by: Dina on June 15, 2014, 07:11:51 PM
Indeed, he is perfect!
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Post by: Amber on June 16, 2014, 03:49:38 AM
Frankceska, you are brilliant! FYI...Simon Helberg plays Howard Wolowitz on Big Bang Theory. I don't know why I never thought of him for Butters before. He's perfect! And that frees up Johnny Galecki for Will Borden in my fantasy cast.

Perfect!  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on June 16, 2014, 07:21:17 PM
Here's a short little fan film shot as a trailer for Skin Game, and the guy they have playing Michael actually looks very good for the part in my opinion.  Their Nicodemus doesn't look too bad either I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8ZUvrIQWuY
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 16, 2014, 07:25:47 PM
I've met their Murphy and she is awesome. Fun fact - their Michael is like 6'8"
Here's a short little fan film shot as a trailer for Skin Game, and the guy they have playing Michael actually looks very good for the part in my opinion.  Their Nicodemus doesn't look too bad either I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8ZUvrIQWuY
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on June 16, 2014, 07:30:40 PM
I've met their Murphy and she is awesome. Fun fact - their Michael is like 6'8"

That's cool.  Haha, maybe he'd make a better Harry then, but I still think he'd fit well for Michael since Michael is also really tall.  Almost as tall as Harry if I recall.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on June 18, 2014, 12:18:49 AM
Speaking of Harry, I recall a poll a long time ago (from an earlier iteration of this thread) that suggested Nathan Fillion was the best choice for Dresden. I dunno, Harry can be terrifying at times and Fillion has never really scared me (as talented as he is). Has Nathan ever played the villain in something?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Wizard H on June 18, 2014, 12:25:04 AM
Speaking of Harry, I recall a poll a long time ago (from an earlier iteration of this thread) that suggested Nathan Fillion was the best choice for Dresden. I dunno, Harry can be terrifying at times and Fillion has never really scared me (as talented as he is). Has Nathan ever played the villain in something?

I don't know about a villain, but Mal following Book's death was sure intimidating as heck.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 18, 2014, 01:56:20 AM
Speaking of Harry, I recall a poll a long time ago (from an earlier iteration of this thread) that suggested Nathan Fillion was the best choice for Dresden. I dunno, Harry can be terrifying at times and Fillion has never really scared me (as talented as he is). Has Nathan ever played the villain in something?
he played a bad guy on Buffy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 18, 2014, 07:19:37 AM
Fillion was my first choice for Harry.  Kinda not visualizing him as much now--Fillion has filled out a little too much for the role, I think.  Always visualized Harry as more gaunt and angular than NF is now...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 18, 2014, 01:57:07 PM
My brilliant husband just came up with the most amazing casting choice for Marcone.  Dolph freakin' Lundgren!

(http://photos.posh24.com/p/1773257/z/red_carpet/dolph_lundgren.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Wizard H on June 18, 2014, 02:18:59 PM
My brilliant husband just came up with the most amazing casting choice for Marcone.  Dolph freakin' Lundgren!

(http://photos.posh24.com/p/1773257/z/red_carpet/dolph_lundgren.jpg)

I would think he fits Kincaid better myself.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 18, 2014, 02:32:13 PM
I would think he fits Kincaid better myself.
Nah, I picture a more feline grace sort of dangerous for Kincaid.  Id cast Dolph as a decent Hendrix
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Post by: AndiSue on June 18, 2014, 02:46:56 PM
Nah, I picture a more feline grace sort of dangerous for Kincaid.  Id cast Dolph as a decent Hendrix

Those are good points.  Dolph would make a good Hendricks from a physical standpoint and also, as we've learned, because he looks like a big, dimwitted oaf but is actually quite smart.  I could see him as Kincaid, too.

The reason he came up as Marcone is because we were watching TV last night and a commercial featuring Ray Wise came on.  Ray has been my Marcone for awhile, but as Marcone has gotten progressively more bad@ss, I'm not sure Ray could pull it off.  I'm not sure I can imagine him in the more physical scenes in Fool Moon and Small Favor, even though to me he otherwise *looks* like Marcone.

(http://www.elmulticine.com/imagenes/noticias/4/ray-wise-pic.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 18, 2014, 02:56:51 PM
The reason he came up as Marcone is because we were watching TV last night and a commercial featuring Ray Wise came on.  Ray has been my Marcone for awhile, but as Marcone has gotten progressively more bad@ss, I'm not sure Ray could pull it off.  I'm not sure I can imagine him in the more physical scenes in Fool Moon and Small Favor, even though to me he otherwise *looks* like Marcone.

Agreed, he's just too old for what is still a physically demanding role.  I could see him for Nic (though I picture a far more skinny/emaciated person), the head Svartalf, or maaaybe Vadderung.  It might be a waste of talent, but he'd make a perfect Ferro. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 18, 2014, 03:08:12 PM
Agreed, he's just too old for what is still a physically demanding role.  I could see him for Nic (though I picture a far more skinny/emaciated person), the head Svartalf, or maaaybe Vadderung.  It might be a waste of talent, but he'd make a perfect Ferro.

I dunno...Ray looked kinda slender in the commercial.  I could see him as Nic.  For Vadderung...I think Liam Neeson
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 18, 2014, 03:26:47 PM
I dunno...Ray looked kinda slender in the commercial.  I could see him as Nic.  For Vadderung...I think Liam Neeson
Eh, Id rather have Liam Neeson as Michael or one of the SC
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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 19, 2014, 07:47:50 AM
Those are good points.  Dolph would make a good Hendricks from a physical standpoint and also, as we've learned, because he looks like a big, dimwitted oaf but is actually quite smart.  I could see him as Kincaid, too.

The reason he came up as Marcone is because we were watching TV last night and a commercial featuring Ray Wise came on.  Ray has been my Marcone for awhile, but as Marcone has gotten progressively more bad@ss, I'm not sure Ray could pull it off.  I'm not sure I can imagine him in the more physical scenes in Fool Moon and Small Favor, even though to me he otherwise *looks* like Marcone.

(http://www.elmulticine.com/imagenes/noticias/4/ray-wise-pic.jpg)

You image of Ray Wise is the first image I've seen that I'd accept over Robert Loggia.  I don't see the physical parts of the role as an issue.  That's what CG is for...
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Post by: Rasins on June 19, 2014, 02:52:40 PM
I don't know why I didn't think of this before, but I think he'd make a great Kincaid...

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on June 19, 2014, 02:54:11 PM
You image of Ray Wise is the first image I've seen that I'd accept over Robert Loggia.  I don't see the physical parts of the role as an issue.  That's what CG is for...
Yeah, I'm not sure what that picture is from, but he does look very Marcone-ish to me in it.  Maybe Ray would be willing to buff up a bit for the role ;-)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on June 19, 2014, 05:08:57 PM
How about Nicola Peltz as Molly?  She has the right look for her I think.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on June 20, 2014, 01:17:13 AM
Eh, Id rather have Liam Neeson as Michael or one of the SC
Ever since someone told me Liam Neeson as Morgan, I can't see anyone else.
How about Nicola Peltz as Molly?  She has the right look for her I think.
She certainly does, but how about Elizabeth Olsen? She got mad props for playing a rebellious, traumatized young woman in Martha Marcy May Marlene and she's playing Wanda Maximoff in Avengers: Age of Ultron. :)
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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 20, 2014, 01:58:52 AM
Ever since someone told me Liam Neeson as Morgan, I can't see anyone else.She certainly does, but how about Elizabeth Olsen? She got mad props for playing a rebellious, traumatized young woman in Martha Marcy May Marlene and she's playing Wanda Maximoff in Avengers: Age of Ultron. :)

My two nominees for Molly: Anna Paquin and Gigi Edgely.  Tending more toward the former because then the latter can play Mab.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 20, 2014, 02:50:15 AM
I want some roles for Chloe Moretz and Anna Sophia Robb
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on June 20, 2014, 07:44:25 AM
My two nominees for Molly: Anna Paquin and Gigi Edgely.  Tending more toward the former because then the latter can play Mab.

Anna Paquin would've been great for Molly 10 years ago or if we don't see Molly until she's already an adult, and Gigi Edgley is at an age where she would be better as Charity.  But if we want someone that could play a teenage Molly and then an adult Molly, I think a younger actress would be better.

I want some roles for Chloe Moretz and Anna Sophia Robb

Chloe Moretz would make a great Molly too I think
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on June 20, 2014, 01:34:31 PM
Speaking of Harry, I recall a poll a long time ago (from an earlier iteration of this thread) that suggested Nathan Fillion was the best choice for Dresden. I dunno, Harry can be terrifying at times and Fillion has never really scared me (as talented as he is). Has Nathan ever played the villain in something?

Captain Hammer in Dr. Horrible, in a manner of speaking? ;)

I agree - Mal takes 15 times as much of a beating as he should be able to, just like Harry, but that's where the resemblance ends for me. His looks aren't angular enough and I don't think he could pull off the super-rages Harry gets into in, say, the Hellfire days.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: OZ on June 21, 2014, 12:24:31 AM
I want some roles for Chloe Moretz and Anna Sophia Robb

I always liked the idea of Chloe Moretz for Molly. Of course that was when both Molly and Chloe were much younger but I still wouldn't complain if they cast her for the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Wizard H on June 21, 2014, 12:33:32 AM
Ever since someone told me Liam Neeson as Morgan, I can't see anyone else.

Me too, I've been unable to see anyone else in this role since I heard this one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Mith on June 22, 2014, 07:18:24 PM
This may have already been listed. but a theme song for THomas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhSA9H9Iaqw&feature=kp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhSA9H9Iaqw&feature=kp)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 23, 2014, 12:43:06 PM
Captain Hammer in Dr. Horrible, in a manner of speaking? ;)

I agree - Mal takes 15 times as much of a beating as he should be able to, just like Harry, but that's where the resemblance ends for me. His looks aren't angular enough and I don't think he could pull off the super-rages Harry gets into in, say, the Hellfire days.
I agree that he doesnt fit the look, and I dont know about the Hellfire Rages, but I will say that in a recentish episode of Castle, when his daughter was kidnapped, he definitely proved he can do frightening dark.  Put a beard on him and I could easily get behind him as a choice for Michael.


Me too, I've been unable to see anyone else in this role since I heard this one.
Once I got past him being an uptight brit instead of the black dude from the Series, Ive had him stuck as Clancy Brown.  Liam Neeson is formidable enough, despite his shockingly advanced age (currently 62!) but he always strikes me as too reasonable for Morgan.  Ive never seen him as the spittle spraying fanatic that Morgan would need to be much of the time. 

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on June 23, 2014, 03:32:37 PM
Once I got past him being an uptight brit instead of the black dude from the Series, Ive had him stuck as Clancy Brown.  Liam Neeson is formidable enough, despite his shockingly advanced age (currently 62!) but he always strikes me as too reasonable for Morgan.  Ive never seen him as the spittle spraying fanatic that Morgan would need to be much of the time.

I don't recall why, but for some reason I thought Morgan was German instead of British.  Anyways, I think Clancy Brown would be great for almost any role, he's one of my favorite actors.  He seems to usually end up playing bad guys, and he makes a good bad guy, but I heard he's actually a very, very nice guy in real life, maybe he could even make a decent Michael.  He would definitely be great for Morgan though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 23, 2014, 05:42:48 PM
I don't recall why, but for some reason I thought Morgan was German instead of British.  Anyways, I think Clancy Brown would be great for almost any role, he's one of my favorite actors.  He seems to usually end up playing bad guys, and he makes a good bad guy, but I heard he's actually a very, very nice guy in real life, maybe he could even make a decent Michael.  He would definitely be great for Morgan though.
I think he is described as having a British accent but its possible Im assuming that from the overwhelmingly British tone of the Council.  He uses some form of old Germanic for his spells, so that may be were the German came in.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on June 23, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
He uses some form of old Germanic for his spells, so that may be were the German came in.

Aha, I think you're right, that's probably where I got the German from.  Now that I think about it, I don't recall Morgan's nationality ever being definitively stated in the series
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on June 24, 2014, 02:53:29 AM
I'd say Neil Patrick Harris for Harry if NPH were taller. Chris Hemsworth would make a great Thomas, I think. Or perhaps Uriel? 8)

And what of Karl Urban for Harry Dresden? He can do wisecracking, he can do serious, he can do scary.

(http://static.tumblr.com/6311e5ea262bcfe36b35369627aa17aa/mritria/huxmox5l6/tumblr_static_karl_2.jpg)

Tell me that's not Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 24, 2014, 02:16:09 PM
I'd say Neil Patrick Harris for Harry if NPH were taller. Chris Hemsworth would make a great Thomas, I think. Or perhaps Uriel? 8)

And what of Karl Urban for Harry Dresden? He can do wisecracking, he can do serious, he can do scary.

(http://static.tumblr.com/6311e5ea262bcfe36b35369627aa17aa/mritria/huxmox5l6/tumblr_static_karl_2.jpg)

Tell me that's not Harry.
I could go with that.  Especially after Almost Human, where he played a very Harry-style cop.   A little too beefy for the descriptions, methinks, but not enough to disqualify him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Seriphina on June 24, 2014, 05:20:52 PM
Hemsworth is too beefy for Thomas. Thomas should be fit and muscular but in a thin and willowy kind of way ala Zac Efron or Matthew McConahay. Not suggesting either of them just their body type.....though now that I think about it, Zac could be good. Still going with Ben Barnes though.

What are your thoughts on Amanda Seyfried for Justine?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 24, 2014, 05:25:57 PM
What are your thoughts on Amanda Seyfried for Justine?
It could certainly work, but I think Id rather her for one of the Fae Ladies, which I think she'd kill at.  For Justine Id prefer somebody with a bit more of a vulnerable Girl-Next-Door type, somebody that Harry can instinctively desire to protect against his better judgement.  Though I cant actually think of such an actress off hand, now that I try. 
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Post by: Rasins on June 24, 2014, 06:39:33 PM
How about Zooey Deschanel for Justine.  I realize she's not blonde but that's not really a problem.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on June 24, 2014, 07:10:20 PM
How about Zooey Deschanel for Justine.  I realize she's not blonde but that's not really a problem.

Wasn't Justine originally a brunette before Thomas almost ate her to death?
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Post by: groinkick on June 24, 2014, 07:53:29 PM
Nathan Filion - Dresden
Orando Bloom - Thomas
Malcolm Mcdowell - Eb
Kate Upton - Molly Carpenter
Sarah Michelle Gellar - Karin Murphy
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Post by: groinkick on June 24, 2014, 08:05:57 PM
Jeffery Morgan - Marcone
Brock Lesnar - Mr.Hendricks
Lucy Lawless - Gard
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: groinkick on June 24, 2014, 08:23:50 PM
Yvonne Strahovski - Mab
Kristina Hendricks - Leah
Megan Fox - Maeve
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Post by: Denarian on June 24, 2014, 10:19:17 PM
Malcolm Mcdowell - Eb
Ooooh, I do like the look of that, but isn't ol' Doc Soran a bit too British for Ebeneezy?
Someone, I think it might have been me, once suggested Nichelle Nichols as Martha Liberty. I'd like to add John Malkovich as Simon LaFortier.

Why not Tommy Lee Jones or Geoff Bridges as Eb?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on June 24, 2014, 10:37:11 PM
Why not Tommy Lee Jones or Geoff Bridges as Eb?

Holy crap, I can totally hear all of Ebenezar's dialogue in Tommy Lee Jones' voice!  That's an awesome idea!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 25, 2014, 09:06:33 AM
Jeffery Morgan - Marcone
Brock Lesnar - Mr.Hendricks
Lucy Lawless - Gard

Think J. Morgan would be better as Nick, but definitely witcha on M. Fox...

And while we're on that subject, Samantha Mumba as Tera West.  Yow Wow!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 01, 2014, 11:35:33 AM
I think he is described as having a British accent but its possible Im assuming that from the overwhelmingly British tone of the Council.  He uses some form of old Germanic for his spells, so that may be were the German came in.

Just reread DB (like, finished it within the last 12 hours), and I thought Morgan's spells were Greek...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 01, 2014, 12:04:08 PM
Think J. Morgan would be better as Nick, but definitely witcha on M. Fox...

And while we're on that subject, Samantha Mumba as Tera West.  Yow Wow!

In and IN!

Thanks to the wonders of inflight entertainment, I caught a few more episodes of the Big Bang Theory. I present: Melissa Rauch (Bernadette) for Murphy. Provided she can do a voice other than that high-pitched one.

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Post by: Quantus on July 01, 2014, 12:10:12 PM
In and IN!

Thanks to the wonders of inflight entertainment, I caught a few more episodes of the Big Bang Theory. I present: Melissa Rauch (Bernadette) for Murphy. Provided she can do a voice other than that high-pitched one.

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She certainly has the build, but can she do intimidating cop?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: phelps on July 01, 2014, 02:50:46 PM
Since I'm new here, I've never shared these (even though the wife and I have gone over them).  Some of the people here are wishes, but this is what I would do.  This is what I have in my head as I'm reading.

Harry Dresden -- Tony Hale.  (You all keep coming up with pretty boys for Dresden.  He's NOT.  He's a tall, skinny, gangly geek who won't make eye contact with anyone and only turns into a bad ass when magic is involved.  The rest of the time he's total geek.)

Murphy -- Martha Plimpton
Bob -- Mark Hamill
Michael Carpenter -- Joshua Jackson
Charity Carpenter -- Katee Sackoff
Mac -- Mandy Patinkin (anyone who has seen Dead Like Me can't argue with this one.)
Marcone -- Kevin Bacon
Morgan -- Jeff Bridges
Arthur Langtry -- Hugh Laurie
Mab -- Tricia Helfer
Lea -- Christina Hendricks
Lloyd Slate -- Matthew McConaughey
Nicodemus -- Gary Oldman (might be nice for him to use his native accent in a role)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: phelps on July 01, 2014, 02:57:42 PM
Murphy -- Martha Plimpton

As backup for this one, BTW, Plimpton has essentially already played Murphy in an episode of Fringe (With Jackson, who I think makes a better Michael than a Harry.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HVvPdYe3iA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HVvPdYe3iA)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 01, 2014, 03:38:04 PM
I agree that he doesnt fit the look, and I dont know about the Hellfire Rages, but I will say that in a recentish episode of Castle, when his daughter was kidnapped, he definitely proved he can do frightening dark.  Put a beard on him and I could easily get behind him as a choice for Michael.

My thing about Nathan Fillion is his voice. Michael has to be deep and reassuring. I think Nathan's great, but he just has this nasality no matter who he plays that often grates on my nerves. Anywho, I haven't seen Castle but I could imagine him doing frightening dark. Nasally. :P
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Post by: frankcesca on July 02, 2014, 07:40:39 AM
Also, has anyone ever put forward Stellan Skarsgard for Vadderung/Kringle?

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 02, 2014, 04:06:17 PM
She certainly has the build, but can she do intimidating cop?

Not a clue. I sure hope so.

Also, I just watched Backwards (usedta row in college) and.... James Van der Beek could be Harry or Thomas in my book. In fact, when I saw him, I realized it was kind of how I've pictured Harry without even knowing it. I don't know if he can do the rage or darkness, but hey, I like the way he looks!

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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on July 04, 2014, 05:25:08 AM
Also, has anyone ever put forward Stellan Skarsgard for Vadderung/Kringle?

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Hmm...

First choice--Kris Kristofferson
Second choice--Jeff Bridges
Third choice--Stellan Skarsgaard
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndyC on July 05, 2014, 02:17:21 PM
First post - although I registered a few years ago and have been lurking irregularly ever since.
My wife and I were just discussing casting details and came up with one that I don't think has been suggested:

Harry Dresden - David Walton.  (Plays the lead character in "About a Boy", where he snarks it up with aplomb.  He's also tall (6' 4"), which helps.
(http://pixel.nymag.com/content/dam/daily/vulture/2012/07/23/23-david-walton.jpg)

For Thomas, she's adamant that Ben Barnes is perfect.
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/5c4b76ddbd6b4da2db34b1892e517ea6/tumblr_mx8486FRkN1s88ss5o1_1280.jpg)

For Karrin Murphy, I too have to go along with the Kirsten Bell idea.
(http://tellmenow.com/files/2014/03/KGrHqNh8E7Qs6CMhBONcFcg60_35.jpg)

For Butters, it has to be Jay Baruchel
(http://screencrave.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/The-Sorcerers-Apprentice-Jay-Baruchel-13-7-10-kc.jpg)

With Michael Carpenter, we're going for Hugh Jackman (as per others here), although an honourable mention for Gerald Butler
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130821194926/marvelmovies/images/archive/3/31/20130821201217!Hugh_Jackman.jpg)

For Charity Carpenter, Lena Hedley (from Game of Thrones, among others).
(http://pedestriantv-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images%2Farticle%2F2013%2F03%2F28%2Fcersei-lannister.jpg)

For Nicodemus - Benedict Cumberbatch has the ability to swing from charming to malevolent so, so well.
(http://static2.hypable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/benedict-cumberbatch-star-wars.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Seriphina on July 06, 2014, 11:49:01 PM
Finally! Someone is with me on Ben Barnes.

Also, Jim mentioned Joe Manginello for Michael (I know I've mentioned this before) and Hiddleston for Harry. I'm kinda stuck on those two.

Also, I would like to mention Gina Torres for Terra West.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Seriphina on July 06, 2014, 11:57:36 PM
Tony Hale's face is too round and cute for Harry for me.

Martha Plimpton.......a resounding NO, and a hell no.

Mac - Michael Chicklis

Vadderung - Liam Neeson

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 07, 2014, 10:31:37 AM
Finally! Someone is with me on Ben Barnes.

Also, Jim mentioned Joe Manginello for Michael (I know I've mentioned this before) and Hiddleston for Harry. I'm kinda stuck on those two.

Also, I would like to mention Gina Torres for Terra West.

You're not the first to mention Gina Torrres for Tera West. :)

Also, how about Zachary Quinto for Harry?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma9zbuhwXc1qzauado1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Seriphina on July 07, 2014, 04:39:45 PM
I can get behind that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on July 07, 2014, 05:45:33 PM
Jay Baruchel is maybe a little too young, and definitely too tall for Butters I think.  However, he definitely does the freaking-out thing very well haha
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on July 07, 2014, 05:51:21 PM
Jay Baruchel is maybe a little too young, and definitely too tall for Butters I think.  However, he definitely does the freaking-out thing very well haha
Meh, he has the character down well enough, and the Height bit wasnt ever a big part of Butter's character, unlike Murphy and Harry.  I think he could work, though Ill still keep him as a second behind DJ Qualls.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on July 07, 2014, 11:00:47 PM
Also, how about Zachary Quinto for Harry?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma9zbuhwXc1qzauado1_500.jpg)
In that case, can Chris Pine play Thomas? ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Seriphina on July 07, 2014, 11:16:57 PM
Chris is too beefy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 08, 2014, 08:08:34 AM
Meh, he has the character down well enough, and the Height bit wasnt ever a big part of Butter's character, unlike Murphy and Harry.  I think he could work, though Ill still keep him as a second behind DJ Qualls.

I disagree. The first thing I think of when I word-associate Harry's descriptions of Butters is "the little ME." Then again, just about everyone is little to Harry, including "the little ectomancer" Mort.

As for the actor, no clue. I still go for Moist - Simon Helberg. I don't know if he can do the "scream like a girl" (I haven't seen very much of his work) but he's got the Judaism and the dark hair... and he's five-foot-seven.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on July 08, 2014, 01:20:25 PM
I disagree. The first thing I think of when I word-associate Harry's descriptions of Butters is "the little ME." Then again, just about everyone is little to Harry, including "the little ectomancer" Mort.
Well, like you said everyone is little in Harry's eyes. But for me that part of Butters description had more to do with him being scrawny and weak looking rather than simple height, but that could just be me. 
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As for the actor, no clue. I still go for Moist - Simon Helberg. I don't know if he can do the "scream like a girl" (I haven't seen very much of his work) but he's got the Judaism and the dark hair... and he's five-foot-seven.
Oh, yes, he's done the girly scream and other various cowardly bits in his time on Big Bang Theory (I take it you havent seen the show, so dear lord watch it, it's Great!)  But thats part of my problem with him is I dont want to be getting Butter and Wolowitz mixed up, the characters are a little too similar.  For that same reason Im against the idea of Sarah Michelle Geller for Murphy, because it wouldn't be Murphy, it would be Buffy and her new wizard friend. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 08, 2014, 02:31:15 PM
Well, like you said everyone is little in Harry's eyes. But for me that part of Butters description had more to do with him being scrawny and weak looking rather than simple height, but that could just be me.  Oh, yes, he's done the girly scream and other various cowardly bits in his time on Big Bang Theory (I take it you havent seen the show, so dear lord watch it, it's Great!)  But thats part of my problem with him is I dont want to be getting Butter and Wolowitz mixed up, the characters are a little too similar.  For that same reason Im against the idea of Sarah Michelle Geller for Murphy, because it wouldn't be Murphy, it would be Buffy and her new wizard friend.

I've seen 4 or 5 episodes of Big Bang Theory, all on airplanes. Liked them all, and it's also where I found my (physically) perfect casting for Murphy. I'll get on it with the watching.

I see where you're coming from with the idea that he's already played too similar a part. I guess my want to see him as Butters is stronger than the worry I'll mix 'em up, personally!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 12, 2014, 12:50:40 AM
At 6', Michiel Huisman is at the bottom range I'd really consider for Harry.  There's something about him on-screen that I like. He's on Orphan Black and Game of Thrones, so he's pretty busy.  But OB doesn't seem too demanding of his time, unless they up his character screentime.  As for GoT, there's no telling how long his character will last.
(http://db2.stb.s-msn.com/i/B1/F781BDE21D8048BE1234CCA2C7B4E1_h236_w422_m6_q90_cpopjdfuH.jpg)
(http://thebacklot.mtvnimages.com/uploads/2013/08/michiel-huisman.jpg?quality=0.7)
(http://www.pathe.nl/gfx_content/allocine/medias/nmedia/18/71/12/michiel-huisman_67902.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on July 12, 2014, 01:23:42 AM
In GoT he is playing a character that another actor played last season, so who knows what will happen in the next season?
I find it kinda meh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 12, 2014, 01:42:03 AM
In GoT he is playing a character that another actor played last season, so who knows what will happen in the next season?
I find it kinda meh.
Alright, what about Armie Hammer?  6'5, 27yo.  Right age and height, if not quite as slim as I picture Harry.

That's him on the left.
(http://content.hollywire.com/sites/default/files/armie-hammer.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on July 12, 2014, 01:48:54 AM
I don't want to sound too picky, but he is too pretty for Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 12, 2014, 01:58:04 AM
Harry Dresden -- Tony Hale.  (You all keep coming up with pretty boys for Dresden.  He's NOT.  He's a tall, skinny, gangly geek who won't make eye contact with anyone and only turns into a bad ass when magic is involved.  The rest of the time he's total geek.)
Bah, Tony Hale is 6'1.  He's not tall.  Tall enough, maybe, but not tall.  And he's 43 now, meaning he'd be nearly 20 years older than Harry in SF.

If I want tall, skinny, gangly geek, Zachary Levi is my pick.  At 6'4", he's close to Dresden's height, he's skinny as a rail, and he does geek very well.  At 33, with two books a year, he'd be around 43-44 when the series completed.
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Zachary_Levi-Casual_Dresden.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Amber on July 12, 2014, 02:21:03 AM
Bah, Tony Hale is 6'1.  He's not tall.  Tall enough, maybe, but not tall.  And he's 43 now, meaning he'd be nearly 20 years older than Harry in SF.

If I want tall, skinny, gangly geek, Zachary Levi is my pick.  At 6'4", he's close to Dresden's height, he's skinny as a rail, and he does geek very well.  At 33, with two books a year, he'd be around 43-44 when the series completed.


OMG.  I never wanted Zac Levi as Harry, but now I do. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: phelps on July 12, 2014, 03:58:52 PM
My brilliant husband just came up with the most amazing casting choice for Marcone.  Dolph freakin' Lundgren!

Dolph is a contender for my Vaderung.  He's competing with Rutger Hauer (who is also a contender for Morgan in my mind.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: WiredKamikaze on July 13, 2014, 02:06:59 AM
I always saw Jon Hamm as Marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 14, 2014, 11:09:21 AM
Right, stop me if you've heard this one before: Chris Hemsworth for Kincaid (or maybe some Monoc/Einherjar part). I only saw the first Thor and didn't exactly fall for his acting, but in looks? That's one hell of a Hellhound. :-*

(http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Chris-Hemsworth-Talks-Thor-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on July 14, 2014, 02:04:26 PM
Bah, Tony Hale is 6'1.  He's not tall.  Tall enough, maybe, but not tall.  And he's 43 now, meaning he'd be nearly 20 years older than Harry in SF.

If I want tall, skinny, gangly geek, Zachary Levi is my pick.  At 6'4", he's close to Dresden's height, he's skinny as a rail, and he does geek very well.  At 33, with two books a year, he'd be around 43-44 when the series completed.
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Zachary_Levi-Casual_Dresden.jpg)

I'd go for this and along with that, I think Eric Balfour as Thomas. I think they look enough alike to pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 14, 2014, 02:42:09 PM
     I like Phyllida Law (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0492373/) for a pre-Corpsetaker Anastasia Luccio and Lynn Collins (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1211488/) for post-Corpsetaker Luccio.

:) :) :)
wasn't post-ct Luccio supposed to be a college co-ed?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Seriphina on July 14, 2014, 10:49:56 PM
I like Helen Mirren for pre-Luccio.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: etothepii on July 14, 2014, 11:14:14 PM
I think Ellen Page would make a good Molly
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 14, 2014, 11:26:45 PM
I think we should have a 2014 Casting Challenge, where we try and cast the show using actors and actresses that are the right age for a new show that starts filming in 2015.  Starting with STORM FRONT, cast with Harry in his mid-twenties, Susan about the same, Murphy in her late twenties or early thirties, Michael old enough to have a a 12yo eldest daughter, Lea young enough to grow into her role without appearing to age over 10 years (so probably in her twenties, but looking worldly), etc, etc.

It seems hard.  I've been looking for a good ~25yo actor for SF Harry, and I just haven't found one that's even remotely tall enough.  It seems like a lot of actors these days are either well beneath 6', or big and beefy and playing Thor in in the movies.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: groinkick on July 15, 2014, 05:30:36 AM
Blackstaff:  W. Morgan Sheppard

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120126193656/prepandlanding/images/2/22/Morgan_Sheppard.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on July 16, 2014, 02:25:34 AM
I`ve always pictured Sarah Michelle Gellar as Murphy.  I know it's typecasting but there it is. 
Harry has always been a young Jeff Goldblum. 
Charity has always been played by Jeri Ryan in my head and Michael looks like Eric Dane, which is interesting because that was true before I ever saw a picture of Dane.
Marcone has always been a young Michael Corleone (Al Pacino).
The problem is that with the exception of Dane and possibly Gellar,  none of them are viable for casting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: groinkick on July 16, 2014, 05:33:55 AM
(http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608053836170789974&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0)

Adrian Paul as Marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 16, 2014, 10:12:49 AM
Blackstaff:  W. Morgan Sheppard

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120126193656/prepandlanding/images/2/22/Morgan_Sheppard.jpg)

Very nice!

The World Cup got to me and I started casting the German team as Dresden guys.

Mats Hummels could be Harry - he's 6 foot 3...
(http://www.wz-newsline.de/polopoly_fs/1.1010360.1339353514!/image/3565740908.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_550/3565740908.jpg)

And Manuel Neuer just has to be somebody. A Whampire or an Einherjar or someone. What a cutie. (also, funny enough, reminds me of my husband. guess I chose well. ;))
(http://www.gq-magazin.de/var/gq/storage/images/media/images/artikelbilder/unterhaltung/manuel-neuer_120804700-quer/2754316-3-ger-DE/manuel-neuer_120804700-quer_article_landscape.jpg)

I have no clue how much English they speak! But... they just wormed their way into my head, what with watching them for so long. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Amber on July 16, 2014, 04:07:36 PM
If we're doing sports players, Adam Wainwright often stars as my mental Dresden.  Possibly just because the guy is 6'7".  The one on the right.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on July 16, 2014, 08:20:36 PM
I could see Neuer as Madrigal.
I would like a role for Cillessen. perhaps Daniel Carpenter or a fae.

(http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Jasper+Cillessen+Netherlands+Training+MrBHCkoLVtZl.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 17, 2014, 12:55:05 AM
I found Murphy.

Kacy Catanzaro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfZFuw7a13E
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 17, 2014, 10:12:01 AM
I found Murphy.

Kacy Catanzaro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfZFuw7a13E

Yes, you did.


If we're doing sports players, Adam Wainwright often stars as my mental Dresden.  Possibly just because the guy is 6'7".  The one on the right.

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Who, this guy?
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Yeah, goofy enough. :)

I could see Neuer as Madrigal.
I would like a role for Cillessen. perhaps Daniel Carpenter or a fae.

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Daniel's a good choice, I think.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Amber on July 17, 2014, 03:47:17 PM

Who, this guy?
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Yeah, goofy enough. :)


I've never seen that one before, and now I love him even more.  Um, not that I'm insanely obsessed or anything.  Just the right amount of obsessed for a native St. Louisan.  There is also some awesome footage of him attempting to sing for charity somewhere that is what originally got him stuck in my head for Harry.  (Alas, he's a little busy right now to be starting an acting career.  And it would be a major pay cut.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Amber on July 17, 2014, 04:38:05 PM
I found Murphy.

Kacy Catanzaro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfZFuw7a13E

I just saw this.  Yes, please :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on July 18, 2014, 03:31:34 AM
If you follow Royal Pains, this season features a mobster from New Jersey.  The guy does the full range and looks the part too.  His name is Jeremy Davidson, and he is Marcone.  Looks fit, knows how to wear a suit and can be all buddy buddy one second and ice cold the next.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on July 18, 2014, 03:37:44 AM
I have no problem with Davidson but I don't really think Marcone has been "all buddy buddy" ever.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on July 18, 2014, 02:13:01 PM
I have no problem with Davidson but I don't really think Marcone has been "all buddy buddy" ever.
I think Marcone can appear friendly when he wants to, which is what I meant, although I certainly didn't make that clear.  Going from "hey we're all friends here" false joviality to "I told you how it's going to be" with an icy look in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: cptnspldng on July 21, 2014, 03:15:27 PM
In the light of the news over the weekend I began to ask "What character in the DF James Garner could have played?"

He could certainly play funny, snarky, devious and able to take a major beatdown and then get up and hand it back. He couldn't do the really young version but I would have loved to see him as a mid-30's Harry.
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef014e871d7ba6970d-800wi)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on July 21, 2014, 03:33:20 PM
In the light of the news over the weekend I began to ask "What character in the DF James Garner could have played?"

He could certainly play funny, snarky, devious and able to take a major beatdown and then get up and hand it back. He couldn't do the really young version but I would have loved to see him as a mid-30's Harry.
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef014e871d7ba6970d-800wi)

I think he could have made a decent Ebenezar also.  Maybe not the best choice, but certainly not the worst either.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on July 21, 2014, 04:00:59 PM
Garner would have made a perfect Malcolm.  He was great at playing the nice guy who never quite really knew what was going on but had a great heart and knew what to say.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: cptnspldng on July 21, 2014, 05:49:45 PM
Here's one from left field: Margo Martindale as Mother Winter.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6H26XodL6m4/URxM80YUOvI/AAAAAAAALJY/yEx7DCrb61I/s400/Margo+Martindale+Justified.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 22, 2014, 12:41:14 AM
Here's one from left field: Margo Martindale as Mother Winter.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6H26XodL6m4/URxM80YUOvI/AAAAAAAALJY/yEx7DCrb61I/s400/Margo+Martindale+Justified.jpg)
She was great on Justified, but I'm not sure about her as MW.  I would like to see her, though.  I'm trying to think of any other role, but I guess there aren't any, are there?  She's not really what I picture for his landlady. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on July 22, 2014, 01:21:48 AM
I've seen her several times and she is great. I think with a good makeup she would be a good MW.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 22, 2014, 12:29:39 PM
How about these two for Harry and Thomas? Put some dark hair on 'em and I'd be sold. In fact, this is how I always pictured Thomas before remembering he's got dark hair as well.

(http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/monsterxpants/default/gale-harold-randy-harrison--large-msg-11884102651.jpg)

I've never seen Queer as Folk, so I wouldn't have a hard time watching these two be brothers instead of lovers, but that might be different for some of you!

Also, Anna Paquin for Anna Valmont. Or, Heck, Murph. Nearly.

(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/database/091221/anna-paquin-300.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on July 22, 2014, 01:25:52 PM
Your Harry looks all right but Thomas is, in my mind, much more attractive than that man.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on July 22, 2014, 01:43:46 PM
Your Harry looks all right but Thomas is, in my mind, much more attractive than that man.
The looks are reversed.  Thomas is supposed to be panty dropping handsome, while to me, I always see Harry as decent looking, certainly not unappealing, but no one would pay him special attention based on looks alone.  Unless she's into storks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 22, 2014, 02:14:42 PM
Your Harry looks all right but Thomas is, in my mind, much more attractive than that man.

I find "that man" pretty attractive... *shrug* The picture is also more than 10 years old, so he miiiight have changed since then. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on July 22, 2014, 04:08:07 PM
Well, that it is why I said "in my mind". I don't even qualify him of "good looking", just average.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on July 22, 2014, 07:44:42 PM
Just stumbled across this while Googling something unrelated.
(http://img2-1.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/021115/184823__jones_l.jpg)
Jeffrey Jones as Carmichael?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on July 22, 2014, 07:52:29 PM
Just stumbled across this while Googling something unrelated.
(http://img2-1.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/021115/184823__jones_l.jpg)
Jeffrey Jones as Carmichael?
Older, weathered, mildly overweight, and an innately antagonistic expression on his face.  Works for me
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on July 22, 2014, 10:30:20 PM
And of course, this dog as Mouse.
(http://cutagulta.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/1.0x0.jpg)

Oh, and has anyone considered Jason Segel or Alexander Skarsgård as Harry? Both men are well over six feet tall.
(http://img.jspace.com/jason-segel-f-60941.jpg)
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 23, 2014, 02:33:21 PM
Oh, and has anyone considered Jason Segel or Alexander Skarsgård as Harry? Both men are well over six feet tall.
(http://img.jspace.com/jason-segel-f-60941.jpg)
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No, but now I have! Can Jason Segel do serious angry stuff as well as he can do goofy? I've mostly seen him in HIMYM and that Muppet movie...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on July 23, 2014, 04:28:14 PM
No, but now I have! Can Jason Segel do serious angry stuff as well as he can do goofy? I've mostly seen him in HIMYM and that Muppet movie...
Its been awkward humor in everything Ive seen or heard of from him.  That doesnt mean he cant, but I dont thinkhe has yet.  He doesnt really fit for me though, I picture somebody with more angles.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on July 23, 2014, 10:12:43 PM
Yeah, maybe back when he was thinner.

But speaking of HIMYM, I've been thinking lately that Cobie Smulders would make an awesome Susan Rodriguez.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 24, 2014, 02:36:17 PM
Kay, hivemind: I've tried to bring this up in the casting thread over in the Spoilers section, but no one took the bait.

Who would you cast for
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?

Can we discuss that here, or shall we all hop on over to the Spoilers thread? http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,41668.165.html
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on July 24, 2014, 02:51:53 PM
Id cast him as the same as his appearance in GS and Changes.  It's kinda hard to pick somebody specific, but honenstly he's so rarely on screen and without much in the way of emotional range, that I think it's the kind of role they will poach somebody from the modelling world and act around them.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Amber on July 25, 2014, 04:54:21 PM
Id cast him as the same as his appearance in GS and Changes.  It's kinda hard to pick somebody specific, but honenstly he's so rarely on screen and without much in the way of emotional range, that I think it's the kind of role they will poach somebody from the modelling world and act around them.

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Stephen Amell is pretty :)  I mean, you'd never get him for a bit part like that, but he's pretty.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 25, 2014, 05:34:10 PM
Stephen Amell is pretty :)  I mean, you'd never get him for a bit part like that, but he's pretty.
He might, if Uriel's roll continues to grow.  I think he could do a good surprised/bewildered look for Uriel when he is surprised by harry and humanity. 

Personally, i wish Uriel had kept the Jake look from SmF.  Then it would be obvious.
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Uriel_Jake.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Amber on July 25, 2014, 06:15:54 PM
Also:  I haven't been able to get Weird Al as Butters out of my head lately.

And Morgan Freeman can be anyone or anything he wants :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on July 25, 2014, 10:00:57 PM
I always see Uriel as Morgan Freeman, no matter its current look.

Stephen Amell is pretty, I agree with that. Uriel is relatively impassible, so he may do it, but I really think he is not a good actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on July 28, 2014, 12:43:51 PM
And Morgan Freeman can be anyone or anything he wants :)
Well, his character in Shawshank was originally supposed to be a red-headed Irishman (hence the nickname "Red") so Yes, Morgan Freeman can play any character regardless of description. 

Stephen Amell is pretty, I agree with that. Uriel is relatively impassible, so he may do it, but I really think he is not a good actor.
He's not a terrible actor, he's just got a somewhat narrow range, at least with what I've seen.  Within that narrow band he's shown capacity fro some subtlety .  Or at least as much subtlety as is allowed in a Comic Book show can stand
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on July 28, 2014, 12:46:51 PM
Also:  I haven't been able to get Weird Al as Butters out of my head lately.

One of the few videos of Jim I've actually seen said he pegged Butters specifically as a young Weird Al. :) But since he's not so young any more, we need some fresh ideas!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on July 29, 2014, 07:18:34 PM
Or we could just travel through time! :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 29, 2014, 09:48:33 PM
Or we could just travel through time! :)

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Memes/Morgan_6th_zps2e773110.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on July 31, 2014, 04:29:11 AM
I think we should have a 2014 Casting Challenge, where we try and cast the show using actors and actresses that are the right age for a new show that starts filming in 2015.  Starting with STORM FRONT, cast with Harry in his mid-twenties, Susan about the same, Murphy in her late twenties or early thirties, Michael old enough to have a a 12yo eldest daughter, Lea young enough to grow into her role without appearing to age over 10 years (so probably in her twenties, but looking worldly), etc, etc.

It seems hard.  I've been looking for a good ~25yo actor for SF Harry, and I just haven't found one that's even remotely tall enough.  It seems like a lot of actors these days are either well beneath 6', or big and beefy and playing Thor in in the movies.

I like this idea!  I have previously had a hard time casting Murphy because I would always draw a blank.  But recently the idea of Kristen Bell has grown on me and she is the right age (34, but looks younger) for your scenario.

(http://www.hawtcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/KRISTEN-BELL-at-The-House-of-Lies-Press-Conference-in-Los-Angeles-2.jpg)

For Harry...I'm going to go way, WAY outside the box.  There is a reality show on DIY Network and HGTV called Salvage Dawgs.  There is a kid on the show - Tay Whiteside - who is in his very early 20s and is REALLY tall.  Not exaggerating -  I'm pretty sure he is about 6'10" (I've met him in person).  He also has a sharp, sarcastic personality.  Hard to find a good picture (and he likes his beard) but maybe this will work:

(https://www.valleydancing.com/art/dancers/Tay_Whiteside.jpg)

That's all I've got for now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on August 06, 2014, 02:40:53 PM
I know Nathan Fillion's been tossed around for Harry, but his current Twitter profile pic makes me think more of Marcone than anyone else. Thoughts?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000675048731/7099e6337c90a460d666c9fdb2e552ae.jpeg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on August 06, 2014, 03:30:47 PM
I know Nathan Fillion's been tossed around for Harry, but his current Twitter profile pic makes me think more of Marcone than anyone else. Thoughts?
I don't think he's tall enough for Harry and to be blunt, he doesn't look Italian enough to be Marcone.  Thinking of him from Firefly, he certainly could play Kincaid's personality, except I can't remember Kincaid's description and don't have the books handy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on August 06, 2014, 03:34:51 PM
Really? For me, he looks very Italian. On the other hand, I don't remember Marcone as looking Italian.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on August 06, 2014, 04:34:14 PM
I don't think he's tall enough for Harry and to be blunt, he doesn't look Italian enough to be Marcone.  Thinking of him from Firefly, he certainly could play Kincaid's personality, except I can't remember Kincaid's description and don't have the books handy.

IIRC, Kincaid is huge, built like a swimmer and has blond hair. I imagine him looking like the guy who played Thor - but I wouldn't imagine that actor could pull off those "Yassuh"s from BR. Onward goes the search.

As for Gentleman Johnny, he's supposed to be not necessarily good-looking, with a boater's tan, possibly some crow's feet, and he's got those famous green peepers. I don't remember anything about him looking Italian or not.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on August 07, 2014, 02:38:01 AM
IIRC, Kincaid is huge, built like a swimmer and has blond hair. I imagine him looking like the guy who played Thor - but I wouldn't imagine that actor could pull off those "Yassuh"s from BR. Onward goes the search.

As for Gentleman Johnny, he's supposed to be not necessarily good-looking, with a boater's tan, possibly some crow's feet, and he's got those famous green peepers. I don't remember anything about him looking Italian or not.
With a name like Marcone and a particular affinity for knife work, it seemed reasonable.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on August 07, 2014, 02:45:12 AM
I don't know what the knife has to do (the Italians I know are not knife lovers  :P) but I know Marcone is not his given name.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on August 07, 2014, 03:27:10 AM
I don't know what the knife has to do (the Italians I know are not knife lovers  :P) but I know Marcone is not his given name.
It's a stereotype for a reason.  Where do you think Sean Connery's line in The Untouchables came from? "Just like a dumb Dago to bring a knife to a gunfight."
I'm part Italian ancestry myself so don't jump down my throat for the Italian stuff, please.
On a more serious note, how do you know Marcone isn't his real name? There is so much stuff I don't remember from the earlier books.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on August 07, 2014, 03:34:51 AM
He said so in Even Hand, that he had changed his name. Of course, his real name could be very Italian too, we just don't know.
And don't worry, I was not offended or anything. I was just commenting that I had never heard of that stereotype. The vision of Italians in USA is, I think, somewhat different than the vision of them here where most people has sone Italian ancestry. I remember now that there is an episode of the Simpsons in Italy where Bob Terwilliger and his Italian family wear knives. I never thought there was a relationship between the two things (being Italian and handling knives)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Shinblam on August 10, 2014, 07:09:13 AM
I'm rather particular to Jim Caviezel for Marcone. He has the look and if you've ever seen Person of Interest you know he can pull off Marcone's character.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on August 14, 2014, 11:41:09 AM
I'm rather particular to Jim Caviezel for Marcone. He has the look and if you've ever seen Person of Interest you know he can pull off Marcone's character.

Yeah, I can see that.

How about Sean Maher for Will Borden? I think he's too old to pull off college-aged Billy any more, but I will dream on.

(http://www.geekpeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Screen-Shot-2013-07-09-at-7.24.26-PM.png)

Jewel Staite could then be Georgia, of course. ;)

(http://takebackthesky.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/img_0308.jpg?w=226&h=302)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on August 14, 2014, 12:29:22 PM
I kinda see Will Borden as one of the Ashmore twins I think.  Or rather, if they had cast one of them back in the days of the early Xmen movies he would have tracked perfectly.
(http://ilarge.listal.com/image/2162912/968full-aaron-ashmore.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Gigglestomp on August 14, 2014, 12:42:47 PM
Have Ron Glass play Henry Rawlins!

(http://i.imgur.com/VR8iYIu.jpg?1)

Description:
Rawlins is a large man, with coffee-colored skin, in his late fifties and with greying hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on August 14, 2014, 12:47:57 PM
Have Ron Glass play Henry Rawlins!

Description:
Rawlins is a large man, with coffee-colored skin, in his late fifties and with greying hair.

Set THAT in stone, yesplz.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Gigglestomp on August 14, 2014, 12:49:43 PM
Set THAT in stone, yesplz.

I dunno, that power. I would almost be cool with them going off-cannon just to give Rawlins more screentime haha.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Shinblam on August 14, 2014, 08:01:31 PM
Maher and Staite would have been great for the Bordens ten years ago. I'm having a heck of a time figuring who I'd want to see in their roles.

I do know exactly who I want to see take up Nicodemus:
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 19, 2014, 09:18:01 PM
I know I've been a big fan of Nathan Petrelli Adrian Pasdar as Marcone, but after watching the Castle rerun "Heartbreak Hotel" today, I'm agreeing with the opinion that Richard Burgi could do a good job.  He plays a casino boss in the episode, and comes across very Marcone-like.
(http://i-cms.linternaute.com/image_cms/original/1825735-richard-burgi-alias-karl-mayer.jpg)

Pair him up with John Cena as Hendricks...
(http://www4.pictures.stylebistro.com/pc/John+Cena+Suits+Men+s+Suit+EfoWIuxtTovl.jpg)

...then we cast Alyssa Sutherland as Gard...
(http://themetaonline.com/images/2013-05-08/RO1guZJ.jpg)

...and Angie Harmon as Helen Beckitt, and we're good to go.
(http://img21.mtime.cn/mg/2010/07/15/210808.24119302.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on August 20, 2014, 07:24:52 AM
Maher and Staite would have been great for the Bordens ten years ago. I'm having a heck of a time figuring who I'd want to see in their roles.

I do know exactly who I want to see take up Nicodemus:

Viggo! Love it! That photo makes it very easy to picture.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Gigglestomp on August 20, 2014, 01:32:42 PM
Kristen Stewart(Bella Swan) guest starring as the teen vamp with handmade fangs at splattercon that gets her head torn off by the fetch?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on August 20, 2014, 02:55:03 PM
Kristen Stewart(Bella Swan) guest starring as the teen vamp with handmade fangs at splattercon that gets her head torn off by the fetch?
If there is any karma she'd play someone who gets completely ignored.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mrfood on August 22, 2014, 07:24:30 PM
IIRC, Kincaid is huge, built like a swimmer and has blond hair. I imagine him looking like the guy who played Thor - but I wouldn't imagine that actor could pull off those "Yassuh"s from BR. Onward goes the search.

As for Gentleman Johnny, he's supposed to be not necessarily good-looking, with a boater's tan, possibly some crow's feet, and he's got those famous green peepers. I don't remember anything about him looking Italian or not
Being from Chicago  Dennis Farina or Joe Mantegna playing  Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on September 03, 2014, 12:21:12 PM
JUSTIFIED by Jim! He said at DragonCon he'd cast Thor as Kincaid.

Here's the question and Jim's answer: http://youtu.be/SSUZzzRUSV8?t=32m12s

(http://static02.mediaite.com/themarysue/uploads/2013/10/thor-winking.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Gigglestomp on September 03, 2014, 01:12:24 PM
JUSTIFIED by Jim! He said at DragonCon he'd cast Thor as Kincaid.

Here's the question and Jim's answer: http://youtu.be/SSUZzzRUSV8?t=32m12s

(http://static02.mediaite.com/themarysue/uploads/2013/10/thor-winking.png)

I would change his hair color though. I always pictured kincaid with darker hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on September 03, 2014, 01:37:59 PM
I would change his hair color though. I always pictured kincaid with darker hair.
Kincaid is blond. In Death Masks, Chapter 10, page 107 (Kindle for iPad eBook) "A black ball cap reined in dark golden hair that might have fallen to his shoulders....His eyes were grey-blue..."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on September 03, 2014, 03:22:16 PM
She's too old for the part, but her voice and mannerisms are perfect, so if they ever do an animated Dresden Files, I want Susan Sullivan (Rick Castle's mother) to voice Lea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on September 03, 2014, 03:27:25 PM
Excellent choice!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on September 03, 2014, 03:41:16 PM
She's too old for the part, but her voice and mannerisms are perfect, so if they ever do an animated Dresden Files, I want Susan Sullivan (Rick Castle's mother) to voice Lea.
Hmm, I could get behind that.  Id want to hear her trying for batshit crazy at least once first, but I'd be surprised if she couldnt pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on September 04, 2014, 04:56:38 PM
mid_life_crisis,

     I never envisioned Lea as a young person, or even one in her middle ages. To me, Susan Sullivan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0838360/) would easily fit the part.

I envision her as a really healthy looking forty five year old.  Not sure why, I just have.  It might be the muse thing.  I always picture them as attractive and that is an age that young and old men can both relate to.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Gigglestomp on September 04, 2014, 07:11:31 PM
I dunno, you can go older but I wouldn't go /too/ old. The High Sidhe, especially Lea and Mab, are supposed to be rediculously beautiful.

They need to be in their 20s or 30s to look older than the Ladies, but they need to still look pretty "fresh" as Bob would put it.

I would choose someone that looks like this, but maybe do her hair platinum white like snow.

Annalynne Mccord
(http://i.imgur.com/giGUNIU.jpg)

Taylor Momsen
(http://i.imgur.com/gaFOqfL.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Gigglestomp on September 04, 2014, 07:30:45 PM
(http://www.hawtcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/KRISTEN-BELL-at-The-House-of-Lies-Press-Conference-in-Los-Angeles-2.jpg)

I really like Kristen Bell for Aurora instead of Murphy actually.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on September 04, 2014, 07:34:44 PM
(spoilertagged your images to keep this post more readable)
I dunno, you can go older but I wouldn't go /too/ old. The High Sidhe, especially Lea and Mab, are supposed to be rediculously beautiful.

They need to be in their 20s or 30s to look older than the Ladies, but they need to still look pretty "fresh" as Bob would put it.

I would choose someone that looks like this, but maybe do her hair platinum white like snow.

Annalynne Mccord
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Taylor Momsen
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Hmm, I feel you first one's a bit too pouty for a Sidhe. But I'd go for her as a vamp any day.

As for the second, put her in Winter for sure, judging by that photo.

But judging by this one, she'd make a good Molly, too.
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(http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2012/02/16/234054-taylor-momsen.jpg?itok=ah6753AQ)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on September 04, 2014, 08:37:50 PM
There are plenty of seriously beautiful actresses in their mid forties.  Mab's handmaiden shouldn't look like a child, at least not to me.
I'm probably getting her hair color wrong, but I always see Lea as a redhead wearing a forest green dress.  Is that correct?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on September 04, 2014, 08:40:40 PM
There are plenty of seriously beautiful actresses in their mid forties.  Mab's handmaiden shouldn't look like a child, at least not to me.
I'm probably getting her hair color wrong, but I always see Lea as a redhead wearing a forest green dress.  Is that correct?
Red Hair, yes, though Im not sure the green dress has always been consistent.  Green Eyes though. 

For Lea I tend to picture Melinda Clarke showing a vintage age similar to her appearance in Firefly
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 04, 2014, 09:59:16 PM
I think Mab and Lea have to be cast in their thirties, simply because of the length of filming and the need to remain youthful.  even at two books per season/year, it'll take 12 years to tell the story.

Maeve and Aurora were supposed to look barely legal, but that can be fudged.

I've actually wanted one person to play Maeve, Aurora, and Sarissa, and let costumes, acting skill, and makeup turn them into different people.  see Tatiana Maslani in orphan black for how that could be done.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on September 05, 2014, 07:15:49 AM
Red Hair, yes, though Im not sure the green dress has always been consistent.  Green Eyes though. 

For Lea I tend to picture Melinda Clarke showing a vintage age similar to her appearance in Firefly
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Nice one! Depending when the movies would actually get made, I'm for Christina Hendricks. Give her a few years to mature, still. :)
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on September 05, 2014, 12:56:30 PM
Nice one! Depending when the movies would actually get made, I'm for Christina Hendricks. Give her a few years to mature, still. :)
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Hmmm...  I could really see that too.  The catch is I paradoxically see a younger Lea when in her post-PG Crazy, but an older more matriarchal Lea in the first appearances, when she was still the ancient and dreaded Godmother.   
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 05, 2014, 06:04:39 PM
     I think folks are getting hung up on the idea that the entire book series must be done, rather than a few of the books. Even if there were plans to do the whole series, the fae characters do not have to be portrayed by the same actor or actress, given that they can put on a glamour. Even the human characters can be played by others, possibly by similar looking people. Compare the JJ Abrams version of Star Trek (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/) cast members with those in the original series (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060028/).

     If the books are done as sets, a set of actors and actresses can be cast separately for each set. This would provide some continuity between books that are chronologically close together without requiring a lifetime contract for any of the cast members. On the other hand, there are shows like Gunsmoke (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047736/) that enjoyed a 20-year run with essentially the same people cast as the show's main characters.

     On the subject of an actor's or actress' real age and how it relates to the characters that they play, think of the 25 to 30-years-olds who play high school and college age characters.

??? :-X ???
I can't think of a modern show that had recast more than one of its main cast members.  occasionally you see one based on necessity or irreconcilable work relations. going in to our with that plan sounds chaotic.

the only franchise at all that had done that is James Bond. others have tried (Jack Ryan), and met with middling success.

Fans like to connect to actors in roles. Who plan on losing that connection from the get go?

As for the series, what book would you cut out, knowing that every one has developments for the overall plot?

The latest on the real attempt to bring it to television has a focus on subscription channels like HBO or Showtime. Specifically, JB mentioned it as a replacement to True Blood, which is ending this year.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on September 05, 2014, 06:46:32 PM
I can't think of a modern show that had recast more than one of its main cast members.  occasionally you see one based on necessity or irreconcilable work relations. going in to our with that plan sounds chaotic.

the only franchise at all that had done that is James Bond. others have tried (Jack Ryan), and met with middling success.

Fans like to connect to actors in roles. Who plan on losing that connection from the get go?

As for the series, what book would you cut out, knowing that every one has developments for the overall plot?

The latest on the real attempt to bring it to television has a focus on subscription channels like HBO or Showtime. Specifically, JB mentioned it as a replacement to True Blood, which is ending this year.
So we'd get to see Maggie's conception?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Gigglestomp on September 08, 2014, 12:41:53 PM
Unless they specifically choose to look otherwise with a glamor, I believe all the Sidhe have snow white hair (Both courts).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Tami Seven on September 08, 2014, 02:04:23 PM
Unless they specifically choose to look otherwise with a glamor, I believe all the Sidhe have snow white hair (Both courts).

Not Lea. Maybe she's the exception, but Harry always describes her as having flame red hair. Actually, there are other Sidhe who don't have white hair. I think it's just the Queens who do. [Job is too stressful ;)]
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Tami Seven on September 08, 2014, 02:13:47 PM
One thing I ask, if they try to cast the Dresden Files as a live action production, is that they at least try to get the heights right. Harry has to be tall, at least an inch or four over 6 feet, and Thomas has to be shorter, but not short. There should be a noticeable height difference between them.

I know that might prove to be very hard to do, but it would make the series more consistent with the books if they do.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Amber on September 08, 2014, 05:33:57 PM
Husband and I decided that if they get to do a live-action TV show, they should see if Blackthorn would come in to play Harry's dad in his few scenes & memories.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on September 08, 2014, 08:00:19 PM
One thing I ask, if they try to cast the Dresden Files as a live action production, is that they at least try to get the heights right. Harry has to be tall, at least an inch or four over 6 feet, and Thomas has to be shorter, but not short. There should be a noticeable height difference between them.

I know that might prove to be very hard to do, but it would make the series more consistent with the books if they do.

With you so very much. Harry has to tower over everyone. I would not be above achieving this with camera tricksery, Peter Jackson style, but it'd be awesomer if they just found a really, really tall actor who could pull Harry off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on September 09, 2014, 03:14:47 PM
With you so very much. Harry has to tower over everyone. I would not be above achieving this with camera tricksery, Peter Jackson style, but it'd be awesomer if they just found a really, really tall actor who could pull Harry off.
Even if they could afford to do the sort of tricks it took to pull off LotR, it would not leave anything left for all that magic and junk.  I would prefer that they find similarly heighted actors in a relative sense, but it's a pretty low priority.  Lets face it, the height differences rarely if ever have any impact on plot, we just love it because that and chivalry are the primary source of flirtatious interaction between Murphy and harry and so we dont want to loose it. 

By contrast it was far more integral to the characters and their interactions that Wolverine had a Napoleon Complex and Cyclops was a full foot taller than him, aiding their antagonism.  But in hindsight I would far rather the actor fit the more central needs of the character, even if the minor details (height, hair/eye color, etc) arent perfect, and I cant imagine anyone doing a better job than Hugh Jackman for Logan. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on September 09, 2014, 04:43:33 PM
Not Lea. Maybe she's the exception, but Harry always describes her as having flame red hair. Actually, there are other Sidhe who don't have white hair. I think it's just the Queens who do. [Job is too stressful ;)]
Unless they specifically choose to look otherwise with a glamor, I believe all the Sidhe have snow white hair (Both courts).
Pretty much the point of glamor.  Do you think they're really all gorgeous?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on September 10, 2014, 01:11:18 PM
Pretty much the point of glamor.  Do you think they're really all gorgeous?
Based on the insectoid look of Mab once she was weakened enough caring for Harry, Id say they dont even look Human given enough time. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on September 28, 2014, 09:16:29 PM
If Andy Samberg weren't so darn tall (5'10"), I'd think of casting him as Butters. I hadn't seen him with glasses before I saw this video - with glasses, I can see him acting as a geek.

But he's too tall.

Watch the video anyway - the very last 25 seconds are so worth it! http://gawker.com/andy-samberg-is-surprisingly-good-at-quickly-summarizin-1639147560
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on September 30, 2014, 12:05:19 PM
If Andy Samberg weren't so darn tall (5'10"), I'd think of casting him as Butters. I hadn't seen him with glasses before I saw this video - with glasses, I can see him acting as a geek.

But he's too tall.

Watch the video anyway - the very last 25 seconds are so worth it! http://gawker.com/andy-samberg-is-surprisingly-good-at-quickly-summarizin-1639147560
Not just too tall, IMO, he is to square and broad.  He can do nerdy, but it's all in the face.  For me Butters needs to be skinny and frail looking, more a DJ Squalls or Jay Baruchel. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Gigglestomp on September 30, 2014, 04:12:24 PM
Butters:

Michael C. Hall from Dexter?

Just make his hair blond and add glasses = )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_Morgan
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 30, 2014, 04:34:51 PM
Butters:

Michael C. Hall from Dexter?

Just make his hair blond and add glasses = )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_Morgan
But Butters isn't blonde.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on September 30, 2014, 05:01:52 PM
Butters:

Michael C. Hall from Dexter?

Just make his hair blond and add glasses = )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_Morgan
Never!!  Not because he couldn't do it but because it would make me and many others sit there waiting for butters to murder somebody.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Gigglestomp on September 30, 2014, 06:30:19 PM
But Butters isn't blonde.

I thought he was given a sample of Butters hair from
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and it was blonde with white flecks in it.

If i'm wrong, then he just would dye his hair a different color, right?


The reason I went with Michael C. Hall was because
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on September 30, 2014, 07:32:51 PM
Nah, Butters has "wiry black" hair with a touch of grey.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Shinblam on October 06, 2014, 06:08:34 AM
I agree that Samberg wouldn't work real well for Butters. On the other hand, I may have finally found a Billy.

For Butters I always picture David Krumholtz. He could pull off Butters' personality so easy it's scary.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on October 09, 2014, 01:30:56 AM
I think I already suggested it, but I am more and more convinced than Katia Winter, who plays Katina in Sleepy Hollow, can do a Lea. And she even has the right name for it!
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on October 09, 2014, 01:55:33 PM
I think I already suggested it, but I am more and more convinced than Katia Winter, who plays Katina in Sleepy Hollow, can do a Lea. And she even has the right name for it!
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Oooh, not bad!  A touch younger than I usually picture her, but fitting none-the-less.  Id want to see her doing cackling crazy first, but then the way Sleepy Hollow is going that could happen sooner or later.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on October 09, 2014, 01:57:05 PM
Yep, she is younger than I imagine her too, but I've been thinking I was wrong in imagining her older. I am sure glamout makes fae look always young.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on October 09, 2014, 02:15:58 PM
Yep, she is younger than I imagine her too, but I've been thinking I was wrong in imagining her older. I am sure glamour makes fae look always young.
That actually why I think the series (should it ever happen) might want to plan on a re-caste.  Lea was very different pre and post Cure, and I find myself picturing the later, crazier one as younger, whereas the early Lea was a slightly more mature Godmotherly type.  Most of that is Harry's perspective changing her from a childhood nightmare to more or less another damn Fae to have to deal with, but something more of an equal.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Gigglestomp on October 14, 2014, 06:49:44 PM
That actually why I think the series (should it ever happen) might want to plan on a re-caste.  Lea was very different pre and post Cure, and I find myself picturing the later, crazier one as younger, whereas the early Lea was a slightly more mature Godmotherly type.  Most of that is Harry's perspective changing her from a childhood nightmare to more or less another damn Fae to have to deal with, but something more of an equal.

I dunno. To me it almost seemed exactly backwards from that. I always pictured the original Lea as super energetic, mood swingy, young, and beautiful. She always seemed to have an agenda, and she didn't always seem to have Harry best interest in mind (Because his Bargain).

Later on though, she seemed more godmotherly to me. After her debt with Harry was finished, she only had his mother's bargain left to protect him. She became very godmotherly, and very helpful. More helpful even than I think the old Lea ever let herself be. (Not including Changes when she was allowed to indulge).

And as time passes, Harry really seems to warm up to her. He hated her for a long time, but he begins to respect her and her advice. When Mab imprisoned Lea Harry got pretty stubbornly defensive about it (She was a b**** but she was MY Godmother). He gets mad about the way she trained Molly, *But* he acknolwdges a lot of her reasons for doing so. (I.E. she hadn't learned she needed to work with more than illusions.)


My ideal Lea would be a young redhead, that could gracefully age into a middle-age redhead by the end of the series. While the fae don't age, they tend to look how they want. As time moves on, she seemed to fit more into the "Godmother with Godsons best interest in mind" category.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on October 23, 2014, 02:27:56 PM
Have I or anyone else ever mentioned Felicia Day? I really want to see her as one of the Alphas. Georgia or Marcy, I think. (I'd also suggest Andi, especially since she has the red hair for it, but Harry and even Murphy have brought up her body type soooo maaaany tiiiiimes in all the books and stories, and Felicia doesn't have it. *shrug*)

Come to think of it, Christina Hendricks could play Andi, then. Kinda perfectly. Anyway, here's Felicia Day:

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 23, 2014, 04:35:14 PM
The issue with Felicia is age.  If a live action series or movie franchise were to start at the beginning, Felicia would be too old for any of the Alphas, or most other characters for that matter.  I'd like to see her as a Fae, perhaps. 

My current fixation is on Karlie Kloss as Gard, or if not her, someone else.  She's a model, so I'm not sure about her acting ability, if there is any.  But she's got the sharp cheekbones I associate with the Fae in my head, the height to pull of Gard or someone (she's 6'1"), and she's pretty enough that a little make-up and special effects could easily give her an ethereal beauty.

(http://cdn1-www.thefashionspot.com/assets/uploads/2014/06/karlie-kloss-make-a-wish-gala.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 24, 2014, 01:03:30 PM
Oh, and while I'm at it, why not cast Cara Delevinge as Maeve. She's apparently getting into acting, as she's been cast as a female lead in a new YA movie.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Tami Seven on October 24, 2014, 02:05:59 PM
Oh, and while I'm at it, why not cast Cara Delevinge as Maeve. She's apparently getting into acting, as she's been cast as a female lead in a new YA movie.

I think she looks the part well enough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on October 24, 2014, 08:59:33 PM
Oh, and while I'm at it, why not cast Cara Delevinge as Maeve. She's apparently getting into acting, as she's been cast as a female lead in a new YA movie.
"YA"?  Look, it's bad enough we have to remember all the abbreviations associated with the books, but figuring them out for the rest of the wide world of entertainment is asking a bit much.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on October 24, 2014, 09:16:29 PM
Young adults, very much used in all the entertaining news around.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on October 25, 2014, 07:28:29 AM
"YA"?  Look, it's bad enough we have to remember all the abbreviations associated with the books, but figuring them out for the rest of the wide world of entertainment is asking a bit much.

YA's been around since I was a YA, at least, MLC. In a place no less venerable than the library. Careful, you're starting to sound crotchety... ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on October 26, 2014, 03:24:13 AM
YA's been around since I was a YA, at least, MLC. In a place no less venerable than the library. Careful, you're starting to sound crotchety... ;)
The problem with initials is that they can be so many things.  At least when it's confined to the Dresden Files, if I think about it for a while, I'll get there sooner or later.  When you do it with the whole world as possibles, it's too much.  When I first read it, I thought, "what the hell do the Young Avengers have to do with this?"  I knew that had to be wrong, so I asked.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Kenneth42 on November 05, 2014, 07:31:01 PM
I have a few contributions I don't think have been mentioned, but I have only read through the first 8 pages, so I apologize if I am stepping on anyone's toes, just think of this as seconding your nominations if such is the case.

Marcone - Ray Stevenson - any Dexter fans might be inclined to agree.
Andy - Alexandra Daddario - Google
Nicodemus - Gabriel Byrne or Mads Mikkelson - someone has to have said this...
Sanya - Quentin "Rampage" Jackson - I see Sanya as a mostly happy character
Charity - Gina Carano - Could forge armor with a hammer, too short for Gard.
Liver Spots - Kelsey Grammer - he can play it cool in book 5 and really ham it up for book 7
Red King - Mel Gibson
Butters - Robert Picardo - might be getting up there in age though
Michael - Craig Bierko - I can think of a few older actors that might be better, but I think he would do a great job and is close enough in the age range
Mavra - Helena Bonham Carter - She dirties up perfectly for the role
Steed - Tom Hiddleston - come on, he's perfect for it
Grevane - Sean Bean - Because it's an awesome role and he dies at the end.
Alicia/Luccio - Nina Dobrev - I just think she fits
Paolo Ortega - Josh Hartnett - Close enough in looks and would pull it off really well.
Kincaid - Christian Slater - I just think he would be perfect for someone Harry hates but the audience loves
Gard - Kristanna Lokken - fits the build and can act the role
Bianca - Vanessa Marcil - that's who I picture in my head almost exactly
Murphy - Alice Eve - would fit pretty perfectly
Sarissa - Laura Vandervoort - especially perfect since I agree with Charlize Theron as Mab.


That's far from a full list because a lot of the others that are notably left off I happen to agree with.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on November 05, 2014, 09:11:46 PM
I'll have to look a bunch of these people up when it's not so close to bedtime, but I wanted to point out these two as real "OooOOOoooh!" moments. Nice thoughts!

Mavra - Helena Bonham Carter - She dirties up perfectly for the role
Steed - Tom Hiddleston - come on, he's perfect for it

Only thing is that Tom Hiddleston is already dreamcast in my mind as Thomas. But if he weren't, then yes. Or how about Benedict Cumberbatch for Steed?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 05, 2014, 11:13:50 PM
I searched for several and I approve some, which I quote here

Charity - Gina Carano - Could forge armor with a hammer, too short for Gard.
Liver Spots - Kelsey Grammer - he can play it cool in book 5 and really ham it up for book 7
Red King - Mel Gibson
Michael - Craig Bierko - MAYBE
Mavra - Helena Bonham Carter - She dirties up perfectly for the role
Grevane - Sean Bean - Because it's an awesome role and he dies at the end.
Alicia/Luccio - Nina Dobrev - I just think she fits
Gard - Kristanna Lokken - fits the build and can act the role
Bianca - Vanessa Marcil - that's who I picture in my head almost exactly
Sarissa - Laura Vandervoort - especially perfect since I agree with Charlize Theron as Mab.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on November 06, 2014, 11:07:27 PM
Right guys, I found my perfect Dresden at a talk tonight here in Berlin. Ari Shapiro, NPR's international correspondent based in London. He looks young enough to start at Storm Front, even though he's 36.

He's just a tad too pretty, so he might have to be Thomas instead. What do you all think?

Not that he acts, but... check him out!

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rsmloaf on November 10, 2014, 05:13:35 AM
John Barrowman as gentle Jonnie Marchone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on November 10, 2014, 07:59:51 PM
John Barrowman as gentle Jonnie Marchone.
Not my first choice, but not bad at all.  Personally Id rather see Barrowman as a Wampire of some kind, but he's too pretty for me to go with as Marcone. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Wizard H on November 10, 2014, 11:01:23 PM
Not my first choice, but not bad at all.  Personally Id rather see Barrowman as a Wampire of some kind, but he's too pretty for me to go with as Marcone.
I could see him as Lord Raith.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 10, 2014, 11:18:53 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on November 11, 2014, 02:13:57 PM
I could see it, but Im stuck pretty hard on Rob Lowe as Papa Wraith, mostly because I can see family resemblance between him and Matt Bomer, who is the only real choice for Thomas imo.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 11, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
Yep, I remember that and I agree, but John Barrowman would be acceptable for Matt Bomer's dad.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Chiana on November 14, 2014, 02:51:20 PM
Gard - Kristanna Lokken - fits the build and can act the role

I wholeheartedly agree with this one. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Wizard H on November 14, 2014, 04:13:36 PM
I wholeheartedly agree with this one.
Ditto, excellent choice there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on November 14, 2014, 04:20:23 PM
Agreed.  I think my mental image of her is more or less Jeri Ryan (aka 7 of 9 from Star Trek) but she's looking older than said image now, so she wouldn't really work. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on November 14, 2014, 05:21:11 PM
Agreed.  I think my mental image of her is more or less Jeri Ryan (aka 7 of 9 from Star Trek) but she's looking older than said image now, so she wouldn't really work.
It's kind of funny, I always picture Charity as the older Jeri Ryan with her hair down.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on November 17, 2014, 03:32:29 PM
For charity I always picture Melinda Clarke in her firefly vintage, just with blonde hair.  Mostly because I think she does the Stink Eye fantastically, and Charity's animosity for Harry is almost a character unto itself.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 17, 2014, 11:48:21 PM
Melinda Clarke is a fae or a whampire in my book. Even Lara.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Wizard H on November 18, 2014, 12:06:52 AM
I could see Melinda playing Margaret (via flashbacks) or maybe Madge.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Chelle on November 21, 2014, 01:44:48 PM
i know he's been mentioned before, but I'm throwing my support behind Billy Burke for Harry.

Taller than average, dark hair, wiry build no can do snark in his sleep. A little old for the first books, perhaps, but Hollywood magic can fix that and he weathers well for when Harry gets battered.

Will you give me David Lyons for Michael? Of is he too pretty?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on November 21, 2014, 06:32:39 PM
i know he's been mentioned before, but I'm throwing my support behind Billy Burke for Harry.

Taller than average, dark hair, wiry build no can do snark in his sleep. A little old for the first books, perhaps, but Hollywood magic can fix that and he weathers well for when Harry gets battered.

I had to look him up.  When I saw the name my first thought was , "Glinda, the good witch of the north?  What?"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: AndiSue on November 21, 2014, 06:44:46 PM
i know he's been mentioned before, but I'm throwing my support behind Billy Burke for Harry.

Taller than average, dark hair, wiry build no can do snark in his sleep. A little old for the first books, perhaps, but Hollywood magic can fix that and he weathers well for when Harry gets battered.

Will you give me David Lyons for Michael? Of is he too pretty?

I hadn't really looked up Billy Burke before as a possible Harry, but now that I have I would say he has the sort of look I envision when I read the books.  I don't think the age is *that* big of an issue because of special effects and the fact that Harry probably looks rough for his age, even in Storm Front.

(http://static.cinemarx.ro/poze/persoane-poze/2009/12/Billy_Burke_1260464902_0.jpg)

As for your suggestion of David Lyons for Michael...looking at his photos on IMDB he seems to be a bit of a chameleon, but his face in some photos looks Michael-ish to me.  I wouldn't say he's too pretty, but he may be a bit too young-looking (Michael is in his 40s the first time we meet him and given how he has lived his life, I would imagine he looks every bit of it) and not beefy enough.

(http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/lf/2013_winter_tca_070113/david-lyons-nbc-universals-2013-winter-tca_20042569.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 21, 2014, 09:12:51 PM
I insist Billy Burke is MacGyver.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Chelle on November 22, 2014, 04:27:23 AM
I'm thinking more of Revolution Season 2 David Lyons - where he's more muscle and has a beard - allowed to show his age, too.  He's only 3 years younger than me, which would make him 38, currently.

Sheesh, I've gotten old.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on November 23, 2014, 10:17:26 AM
I hadn't really looked up Billy Burke before as a possible Harry, but now that I have I would say he has the sort of look I envision when I read the books.  I don't think the age is *that* big of an issue because of special effects and the fact that Harry probably looks rough for his age, even in Storm Front.

I like the looks, but I really can't square with the age difference. That actor is 10 years older than Harry's supposed to be now in Skin Game, which means he's nearly 25 years older than Storm Front Harry.

I think Harry might actually not look too beat-up for his age, especially considering wizardly recuperative powers. He's got more scars than most, but other than that, nah.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 25, 2014, 04:10:51 AM
Hey guys! New to the forum here, but I thought I would add my two cents and throw my cast list (apologies if some of the choices are already re-hashed or repeated.)

Harry Dresden - Jared Padalecki (I think he could age into the role, considering he looks young enough to play SF Harry)
Karrin Murphy - Sarah Michelle Gellar or
Thomas Raith - Matt Bomer or Ian Somerhalder
Donald Morgan - Kevin McNally
Bob - James Marsters (stuck in my head since the audiobooks)
Waldo Butters - Jay Baruchel
Will Borden - Justin Long
Georgia Borden - Leelee Sobieski
Michael Carpenter - Jeffrey Dean Morgan
Charity Carpenter - Lucy Lawless (since Jim mentioned her in an interview now I can't picture her any other way!)
Molly Carpenter - Kaley Cuoco (it's a big maybe, but I think she can pull off the complexity, not just the looks)
John Marcone - Jeffrey Donovan (dead ringer when you see him play mob types in 'Burn Notice')
Nicodemus Archleone - Viggo Mortensen (it's not just the looks, but the voice that does it for me)
Deidre - Lorde (I really don't know why, I just seem to picture her like that for some reason)
Sigrun Gard - Tricia Helfer or Kristanna Loken
Sanya - Idris Elba
Shiro - Ken Watanabe or Sonny Chiba
Lara Raith - Angelina Jolie
Leanansidhe - Christina Hendricks (though she might be a bit too buxom) or Famke Jannsen
Kincaid - Daniel Craig

I welcome any suggestions and/or thoughts. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 25, 2014, 04:13:10 AM
I approve many of your choices. I never liked Hendricks but I had not considered Famke. It's a good idea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 25, 2014, 04:20:42 AM
I approve many of your choices. I never liked Hendricks but I had not considered Famke. It's a good idea.

Thanks.  I'm having a hard time picturing anyone in particular for Murphy, and for me SMG is just a placeholder really.  I would say Reese Witherspoon but I'm a bit reluctant.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on November 25, 2014, 07:58:55 AM
Good one with Kaley Cuoco for Molly - I could see that too! If she can pull off the complexity.

Christina Hendricks is buxom enough (and a redhead) to be Andi. Although she's quite a bit older than a college student... but I've cast her as Lea, too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on November 25, 2014, 01:46:20 PM
Good one with Kaley Cuoco for Molly - I could see that too! If she can pull off the complexity.

Penny has come a long way, but in all the things Ive seen Cuoco done, none of them have really come across as intelligent as Id hope Molly to be, even when she was trying for it. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on November 25, 2014, 05:53:06 PM
Penny has come a long way, but in all the things Ive seen Cuoco done, none of them have really come across as intelligent as Id hope Molly to be, even when she was trying for it.
The problem with Cuoco is that while she is pretty, she isn't drop dead, brick Nordic supermodel gorgeous.  What I'm saying is that I've successfully hit on women that looked that good.  Molly is described as having won the genetic lottery in the looks department.  She has to be intimidatingly beautiful, not just pretty, and classically beautiful, not just the pouty lipped flavor of the month.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on November 25, 2014, 07:27:00 PM
The problem with Cuoco is that while she is pretty, she isn't drop dead, brick Nordic supermodel gorgeous.  What I'm saying is that I've successfully hit on women that looked that good.  Molly is described as having won the genetic lottery in the looks department.  She has to be intimidatingly beautiful, not just pretty, and classically beautiful, not just the pouty lipped flavor of the month.
Agreed, she is definitely the more Girl Next Door pretty  (Makes sense since Girl Next Door is basically her schtick.  Though for that reason I could see her being great at Andi.  A nerdy girl that was self-conscious and to start a bit overweight, but pulling the Duckling to Swan thing.  Hell, for that matter with her as Andy it would make Galeki a perfect Butters all around. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 25, 2014, 08:11:19 PM
Bryana Holly is what I currently picture for Molly.  Since she's only a model, I have no idea if she can act.  She's not really a "casting" choice for me, so much as a template for the looks aspect.
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 25, 2014, 08:34:05 PM
Agreed, she is definitely the more Girl Next Door pretty  (Makes sense since Girl Next Door is basically her schtick.  Though for that reason I could see her being great at Andi.  A nerdy girl that was self-conscious and to start a bit overweight, but pulling the Duckling to Swan thing.  Hell, for that matter with her as Andy it would make Galeki a perfect Butters all around.

Not a bad idea!

As for Molly, it's hard to find someone who fits that characteristic, maybe a Swedish actress like Helena Mattsson could do?

(http://ilarge.listal.com/image/1063855/936full-helena-mattsson.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 26, 2014, 02:12:40 AM
And ever since he's appeared, Binder is Sean Pertwee in my mind.  His voice is even perfect for the role.

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131003095926/camelot/images/1/18/Sean_Pertwee.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 26, 2014, 02:32:48 AM
And ever since he's appeared, Binder is Sean Pertwee in my mind.  His voice is even perfect for the role.

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131003095926/camelot/images/1/18/Sean_Pertwee.jpg)
no way. he's ruining Alfred for me. I don't know if I'll ever forgive him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 26, 2014, 02:38:49 AM
I am the opposite, I think he is too awesome to be Binder.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 26, 2014, 02:40:33 AM
Lol, any Binder choices spring to mind?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on November 26, 2014, 03:03:18 AM
Molly should be a young Ursula Andress.  I have no idea who that would be now.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ursula+andress&view=detail&id=D7D286DD70465C5D81BC97C14FE2A1B9AFB72D41&first=16 (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ursula+andress&view=detail&id=D7D286DD70465C5D81BC97C14FE2A1B9AFB72D41&first=16)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 26, 2014, 03:16:05 AM
Molly should be a young Ursula Andress.  I have no idea who that would be now.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ursula+andress&view=detail&id=D7D286DD70465C5D81BC97C14FE2A1B9AFB72D41&first=16 (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ursula+andress&view=detail&id=D7D286DD70465C5D81BC97C14FE2A1B9AFB72D41&first=16)

She's gorgeous, but a bit too Mediterranean for that nordic look that apparently Molly has.  Ursula Andress could most definitely be a Raith.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 26, 2014, 03:28:38 AM
In my mind she always have been
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but now she is too old (34)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 26, 2014, 03:34:37 AM
In my mind she always have been
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but now she is too old (34)

Are you Argentine by any chance? :P  If so...vamos carajo!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 26, 2014, 03:36:36 AM
I am  :D
Are you?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 26, 2014, 03:37:36 AM
I am  :D
Are you?

Claramente si!  Que groso!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 26, 2014, 03:39:17 AM
Ok, for politeness, let's cut it with the Spanish but you can pm if you want. Only tell me you are not of Racing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 26, 2014, 03:40:28 AM
Boca Jrs all the way.  Yeah, no Spanish then. :P  Great to meet a fellow Argento, of all the ridiculous places to meet!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 26, 2014, 03:43:21 AM
Argenta, if you don't mind  :)
And, IIRC, I had greeted you already before knowing what you were from. I am happy for that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 26, 2014, 03:44:40 AM
Argenta, if you don't mind  :)
And, IIRC, I had greeted you already before knowing what you were from. I am happy for that.

Ah my bad, apologies.

And for everybody else, sorry for shortly hijacking the thread.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on November 26, 2014, 03:45:55 AM
In my mind she always have been
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but now she is too old (34)
She's pretty but not "oh my god she's gorgeous!"  Genetic lottery winner, remember?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 26, 2014, 03:47:55 AM
She's pretty but not "oh my god she's gorgeous!"  Genetic lottery winner, remember?

Her name's Nicole Neumann, look her up.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 26, 2014, 03:49:33 AM
You don't think she is pretty? She was our Lolita. Genetic lottery.
You could google Ingrid Grudke too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on November 26, 2014, 12:06:27 PM
You don't think she is pretty? She was our Lolita. Genetic lottery.
You could google Ingrid Grudke too.
I quite clearly agreed that she's pretty.  She just isn't statuesque, traffic stopping, whiplash inducing, unapproachably beautiful. Molly is fae beautiful without resorting to a glamour.
As for Ingrid, you're getting closer, but there's something off about her.  Either I found bad pics of her or she is one of those people who is mostly good looking but only from the right angle.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 26, 2014, 01:01:32 PM
Nicole has stopped the traffic more than once. I don't think I can imagine someone more statuesque, perhaps someone even taller (according to wiki she is 5 ft 8 1⁄2 in) but with her long legs she seems even taller. And again, when I think in genetic lottery I think in someone like Nicole (or a brunette version, which is discarded in this case)
And...to be honest, I don't think Molly is sooooo pretty as you said. She has not stopped the traffic in Chicago, as far as I remember. I never thought she could be "fae beautiful" before her promotion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on November 26, 2014, 01:49:26 PM
Nicole has stopped the traffic more than once. I don't think I can imagine someone more statuesque, perhaps someone even taller (according to wiki she is 5 ft 8 1⁄2 in) but with her long legs she seems even taller. And again, when I think in genetic lottery I think in someone like Nicole (or a brunette version, which is discarded in this case)
And...to be honest, I don't think Molly is sooooo pretty as you said. She has not stopped the traffic in Chicago, as far as I remember. I never thought she could be "fae beautiful" before her promotion.
I think that may be partly because of Harry's POV, in which he is actively trying to not notice her, but still does anyway, and is made uncomfortable by it.  If you take the Svartalves reaction in Bombshells as more objective, she is model quality of some flavor at the very least. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on November 26, 2014, 01:53:02 PM
I think that may be partly because of Harry's POV, in which he is actively trying to not notice her, but still does anyway, and is made uncomfortable by it.  If you take the Svartalves reaction in Bombshells as more objective, she is model quality of some flavor at the very least.
"brick supermodel".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 26, 2014, 01:58:03 PM
That is why I suggested a model. And for the same reasons you mentioned I think Harry watches her prettier than she is (or was, now she is prettier. Anyway, my pic was a child for her first appearance)
Mmm, Claudia Schiffer? (when she was young)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on November 26, 2014, 04:36:13 PM
"brick supermodel".
ya, I always hated that description of her.  I mean, Commodores aside, when I think of a Brick House words like square, blocky, rough, durable and utilitarian come to mind.  Not much of anything that would apply to most normal images of Feminine Beauty.  More like Prof. Pounder than Molly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on November 26, 2014, 05:09:11 PM
ya, I always hated that description of her.  I mean, Commodores aside, when I think of a Brick House words like square, blocky, rough, durable and utilitarian come to mind.  Not much of anything that would apply to most normal images of Feminine Beauty.  More like Prof. Pounder than Molly.
It comes from "brick shit-house", which is to imply that it is built far better than it needs to be, since outhouses are made to be torn down and moved every so often.  The Commodores put a musical space in there as self censoring of the expression.
In other words, Molly has a body that is built better than anyone should have.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 26, 2014, 06:39:46 PM
It comes from "brick shit-house", which is to imply that it is built far better than it needs to be, since outhouses are made to be torn down and moved every so often.  The Commodores put a musical space in there as self censoring of the expression.
In other words, Molly has a body that is built better than anyone should have.

I'm guessing it's too much of an americanism so it's possible that non US readers won't get the reference.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: cass on November 26, 2014, 07:09:40 PM
As an American, I can definitively state not even all Americans would get it. I know the phrase, but I've never really been clear on whether it's a good or a bad thing to be built like a brick ****house.  I mean, on one hand, I'd rather that then something easily tipped or otherwise destroyed, but on the other, it could totally be interpreted to mean someone who is built blockily and sturdily and not particularly conventionally prettily. (Someone saying this in admiration could simply be commenting on strength, not hotness.)  I never interpreted it as meaning "constructed of superior quality than necessary".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on November 26, 2014, 07:15:26 PM
As an American, I can definitively state not even all Americans would get it. I know the phrase, but I've never really been clear on whether it's a good or a bad thing to be built like a brick ****house.  I mean, on one hand, I'd rather that then something easily tipped or otherwise destroyed, but on the other, it could totally be interpreted to mean someone who is built blockily and sturdily and not particularly conventionally prettily. (Someone saying this in admiration could simply be commenting on strength, not hotness.)  I never interpreted it as meaning "constructed of superior quality than necessary".
That's what it means, though.  Definitely a compliment.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 26, 2014, 08:46:46 PM
Ah, all right. I interpreted it as a not so delicate supermodel. The problem is none supermodel I know fits midlife expectations (at least, not with Molly's ancestry).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: OZ on November 26, 2014, 09:22:02 PM
I always thought the  term was referring to the fact that a normal outhouse was usually wooden and fairly poorly constructed. One that was made of brick was far superior and far better built than the norm so a woman that was built like a brick ****house was far "better built" or had a far superior body to the norm.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: OZ on November 26, 2014, 09:25:23 PM
Since Charity, while described a shapely and attractive, was able to wield a war hammer while wearing armor and a sword at her belt, I always figured that she had a build that while shapely was "sturdy". Molly is said to take after her mother so I always figured she was not slender and delicate.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 26, 2014, 10:18:54 PM
So more Pentathlon runner/field hockey player than supermodel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on November 27, 2014, 12:03:23 AM
Gorgeous fitness model?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 27, 2014, 12:05:16 AM
What did you think of my Claudia Shiffer suggestion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on November 27, 2014, 12:25:39 AM
What did you think of my Claudia Shiffer suggestion.
For some reason I can't find pics from when she was young.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 27, 2014, 12:29:37 AM
(http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32300000/Claudia-Schiffer-claudia-schiffer-32326128-1608-2400.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on November 27, 2014, 12:52:24 AM
http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32300000/Claudia-Schiffer-claudia-schiffer-32326128-1608-2400.jpg (http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32300000/Claudia-Schiffer-claudia-schiffer-32326128-1608-2400.jpg)
That works.  Looks and curves.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rukhage on November 27, 2014, 01:02:35 AM
Here's another Argentine option: Valeria Mazza.  Considered to be the first true Latin American supermodel.

She's a bit old now (42) but still looks good.

(http://www.tucumanalas7.com.ar/uploads/editorial/2014/03/14/imagenes/38425_Valeria-Mazza.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 27, 2014, 01:34:17 AM
LOL, I was thinking in her too but I discarded her because of midlife high exigence.
Young Elle McPherson would be also an option
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Big-Puff on December 13, 2014, 02:45:35 AM
Eugenie Bouchard Tennis player/ Molly
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on December 15, 2014, 03:22:49 PM
I've accepted that no matter who they cast as Molly, I'm not going to be happy.  The person I have in my mind probably doesn't exist in the real world. 
Meanwhile, I can't remember all the suggestions and have no intention to reread this entire thread.  I just saw a particular pic of Angelina Jolie and thought, "oh God, that's Mab!"  She was perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Gigglestomp on December 17, 2014, 04:39:26 PM
Every time I see a picture of Ron Glass, I think of this thread, and wish he was Rawlins.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mrfood on January 03, 2015, 06:24:47 PM
There's has to be a part for Bruce Campbell some where?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mid_life_crisis on January 03, 2015, 10:42:26 PM
There's has to be a part for Bruce Campbell some where?
In wise ass mode, he could be the voice of Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Shinblam on January 06, 2015, 04:31:49 AM
There's has to be a part for Bruce Campbell some where?

It's a small part, but I always imagined him as Carmichael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: rudobrody on January 11, 2015, 03:19:39 PM
It's a small part, but I always imagined him as Carmichael.

Oh oh, I can definitely see that in my head.  Nice one!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Bdubs8807 on February 08, 2015, 08:40:38 AM
Hells Bells by AC/DC needs to be used.

YES!!!  Also these:
Werewolves of London by Warren Zevon (Maybe change it to Werewolves of Chicago?)-Fool Moon opening/theme song
Highway to Hell by AC/DC-Closing credits song for Death Masks (as Nic drives away, he gives his final line, then screen cuts to black)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 08, 2015, 02:20:27 PM
YES!!!  Also these:
Werewolves of London by Warren Zevon (Maybe change it to Werewolves of Chicago?)-Fool Moon opening/theme song
Highway to Hell by AC/DC-Closing credits song for Death Masks (as Nic drives away, he gives his final line, then screen cuts to black)

I like the one JB used for that scene--Jagger/Richard's "Sympathy for the Devil".  Agree about "Werewolves of London" though.  Also like Zevon's "Jungle Work" as soundtrack for when Harry, Murphy and Kincaid go in after the Vampire scourge and their Renfields.

But there's no shortage of werewolf songs that could be applied--"Super Beast" (Rob Zombie), "Bark at the Moon" (Ozzy), and one from my favorite band "The Wolf is Loose" (Mastodon); two other good ones by Disturbed and Metallica that I can't remember the titles.

PS: the Disturbed song is "The Animal" and the Metallica Song is "Of Wolf and Man"...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Bdubs8807 on February 10, 2015, 05:14:27 AM
There are so many posts in the previous two versions, that I'm not even going to

try reading through them all.  Suffice to say, I think we all need to agree on

some ground rules for this whole casting thing before we go any further...
1. Unless you specify that you've got access to a time machine at the beginning

of your post, assume you don't, and go from there.  (Don't forget that we now

(sorta) know how old various characters are, and that it's unlikely that any movies will actually be made in the next 2-5 years).
2. Please specify whether or not you prefer to contemplate unknown

actors/actresses for various roles, and perhaps name a known actor/actress

regardless of your preference, to make things a little easier?
3. If you've got more than one possibility per role, please list your preferred

actor first!
4. Assume we've got a blank check for hiring cast/crew.
Bearing those in mind, here's my list (such as it is) as it currently stands.

Lately, I've been going with no time machine and no unknowns.  Let'sa go!

Dresden - Hugh Dancy/Michael Gray Gubler/Michael Fassbender
Murphy - Kristen Bell
Susan - Erica Cerra
Thomas Raith - Tom Hiddleston/Matthew Bomer
Voice of Bob - Billy Crystal (but if Jim insists on him being British, then Tom Hiddleston, if he's not playing Thomas)
Michael Carpenter - Gerard Butler
Charity Carpenter - Elisabeth Rohm
Sanya - Shemar Moore/David Ramsey/Chiwetel Ejiofor
Shiro - Hiroyuki Sanada/Tadanobu Asano
Nicodemus - Kavan Smith/James Spader
Lasciel/Shiela - Scarlett Johansson
Waldo Butters - Neil Grayston/Simon Helberg
Ebenezar McCoy - Tommy Lee Jones/Sean Connery
Gatekeeper Rashid - Samuel L. Jackson/Morgan Freeman
Senior Wizard Martha Liberty - CCH Pounder
Merlin Arthur Langtry - Christopher Lee/Ian McKellan
Warden Douglas Morgan - Mark Strong
Wizard LaFortier - Patrick Stewart? (Especially if Ian McKellan is the Merlin)
Young Warden Anastasia Luccio - Natalie Portman?
Warden Carlos Ramirez - Carlos Valdes
Mab (and possibly Titania?) - Cate Blanchett/Michelle Pfeiffer/Tilda Swinton
The Leanandsidhe - Alex Kingston
Toot-Toot - David Tennant/Matt Smith
Mother Summer - Julie Andrews
Mother Winter - Judi Dench
Maeve and Aurora - Dakota and Elle Fanning (respectively)
Lily - Molly Quinn?  (She might do better elsewhere, I'm a little iffy)
The Erlking - David Bowie
Elaine - Jewel Staite/Minka Kelly
Marcone - Liam Neeson/Eric Roberts
Sigrun Gard - Uma Thurman  (duh)
Kincaid - Sean Bean/Karl Urban
Grevane - Anthony Stewart Head
Malcolm Dresden - Nathan Fillion
Rawlins - Idris Elba
Lara Raith - Katie McGrath (though she might make a better Madeline Raith)/Morena Baccarin (though she's already too tan for it, so maybe not her either?)
Lord Raith - Ian McShane
Madrigal Raith - Cillian Muprhy
Mortimer Lindquist - Willie Garson
Ernest "Binder" Armand Tinwhistle - Mark Sheppard
Duke Paolo Ortega - Antonio Banderas
Bianca - Monica Bellucci/Sofia Vergara?
Duchess Arianna Ortega - Salma Hayek/Catherine Zeta-Jones/Penelope Cruz
Mavra - Keira Knightley

Director - Joss Whedon (Provided he understands/accepts he can't kill anybody unless they die in-book)

See https://www.pinterest.com/bdwalton8807/dresden-files-cast/ for pictures of most of my choices
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 10, 2015, 06:32:11 AM
There are so many posts in the previous two versions, that I'm not even going to try reading through them all.  Suffice to say, I think we all need to agree on some ground rules for this whole casting thing before we go any further...
1. Unless you specify that you've got access to a time machine at the beginning of your post, assume you don't, and go from there.  (Don't forget that we now (sorta) know how old various characters are, and that it's unlikely that any movies will actually be made in the next 2-5 years).
2. Please specify whether or not you prefer to contemplate unknown actors/actresses for various roles, and perhaps name a known actor/actress regardless of your preference, to make things a little easier?
3. If you've got more than one possibility per role, please list your preferred actor first!
4. Assume we've got a blank check for hiring cast/crew.
Bearing those in mind, here's my list (such as it is) as it currently stands. Lately, I've been going with no time machine and no unknowns.  Let'sa go!
While admirable, your ground rules are lacking certain points. 
5. Specify if you're thinking a movie franchise, television seasons, or television mini-series for each book, and how many books per year if so.
6. Specify if you're starting with STORM FRONT, or if you're starting later on/skipping books, which some people think is acceptable, and others don't.
7. Specify if you're casting young on some roles due to their eternally youthful appearance.

Now, as for your cast, I agree with some of them, but I think you've completely disregarded age in your casting.  Harry is 25 in STORM FRONT, and your youngest Harry is 34.  Likewise, you've got Toot (young teen ripped body) being played by a 43yo.  Even at two books a year, your un-aging teen-looking Toot would be 53 by the time the BAT came around, and that's assuming we got two book/series in this year.

So your no time machine comment confuses me, at least in regard to your casting choices.  Again, I have no issue with a list of actors that look like how you picture them, but if you're saying no time travel casting, I think the actors have to be age accurate, yes?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on February 10, 2015, 06:41:37 AM
Well, your Harrys are too blond for what I imagine.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 10, 2015, 06:49:19 AM
.
1. Unless you specify that you've got access to a time machine at the beginning

of your post, assume you don't, and go from there.  (Don't forget that we now

(sorta) know how old various characters are, and that it's unlikely that any movies will actually be made in the next 2-5 years).

Disagree that age is as much an issue as some seem to think, thanks to makeup and CG.  They can still make Clint Eastwood look like Dirty Harry for photo ops, but take off the makeup and he doubles for the Crypt-Keeper.  So having said that, here's my somewhat updated list:

Helen Bonham Carter--Mavra
Christopher Lee--Arthur Langtry
Robert Duvall--Ebenezar McCoy
Ernie Hudson--Rawlins
Lani Tupu--for either Donald Morgan or Nicodemus
Ian McShane--(CLOSE second choice for Nicodemus)
Joe Pantoliano--Mortimer Lundquist
Gigi Edgely--Mab
Anna Paquin--Molly
Michael Fassbender--Harry
Nathan Fillion--Harry (second choice)
Rebecca Romijn--Sigrun Gard
Jack Black--Will Borden (I've never envisioned anyone else)
Michael Wincott--Thomas Raith (ditto)
Robert Loggia--Baron Marcone (ditto)
Johnny Depp--Fix
Zoe Saldana--Susan
Morena Bacarin--Susan (second choice)
Samantha Mumba--Tera West
Sean Connery--Sir Stuart Winchester
Kris Kristofferson--Vadderung/Odin/Santa
Jeff Bridges--Vadderung (second choice)
Michael Dorne--Lord Hern
Wynona Ryder--Marci the Werewolf
Benjamin Bratt--Warden Carlos Ramirez
Michael Shannon--either Agent Tilly or Father Roarke Douglas
Takayo Fischer--Ancient Mai
Mark Sheppard--Binder
Scarlett Johanssen--Maeve
Angelina Jolie--the Leanansidhe
James McAvoy--Warden Chandler ("Steed")

Assuming the above can be made to look the appropriate age/weight/height by Hollywood "magic".  Ill add more as I think of 'em.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Bdubs8807 on February 13, 2015, 04:03:34 AM
While admirable, your ground rules are lacking certain points. 
5. Specify if you're thinking a movie franchise, television seasons, or television mini-series for each book, and how many books per year if so.
6. Specify if you're starting with STORM FRONT, or if you're starting later on/skipping books, which some people think is acceptable, and others don't.
7. Specify if you're casting young on some roles due to their eternally youthful appearance.

Now, as for your cast, I agree with some of them, but I think you've completely disregarded age in your casting.  Harry is 25 in STORM FRONT, and your youngest Harry is 34.  Likewise, you've got Toot (young teen ripped body) being played by a 43yo.  Even at two books a year, your un-aging teen-looking Toot would be 53 by the time the BAT came around, and that's assuming we got two book/series in this year.

So your no time machine comment confuses me, at least in regard to your casting choices.  Again, I have no issue with a list of actors that look like how you picture them, but if you're saying no time travel casting, I think the actors have to be age accurate, yes?
I'm actually a little torn about whether it should be a television mini-series or a series of movies (one season or movie per book).  To do them proper justice would require a TV mini-series, but movies would get more public exposure, not to mention help avoid any possible stigma relating to the previous TV incarnation of the series.
Though my experience in trying to get my wife to read the books has taught me that maybe starting with Storm Front wasn't the best idea (I should probably have skipped her straight to GP), doing that to potential new viewers would be a serious misstep.  With all the future set-up that occurs in books one and two, skipping straight to the book where the war is kicked off would be mildly confusing at best.
I'll admit, maybe I was quick to judge people for casting certain actors w/o giving consideration to their RL age, though I imagine that (if it were to be movies, not a mini-series) the filming would be done like it was for the LOTR movies, which would help mitigate some of the age problems.  I've been thinking of this list for about 5-7 years now, and I added certain people at various times based on characters I've seen the play over the years.  I also haven't gone through the books very thoroughly to get the most detailed physical description possible (e.g. I've forgotten that Toot doesn't wear much in the way of clothes before SK, and the 10th and 11th Doctors have always seemed super-excited about some of the strangest things, so I couldn't help drawing the connection.
Disagree that age is as much an issue as some seem to think, thanks to makeup and CG.  They can still make Clint Eastwood look like Dirty Harry for photo ops, but take off the makeup and he doubles for the Crypt-Keeper.
While that is a valid point, don't forget that we're not talking just photo ops here.  We wouldn't expect Clint to be able to do as much physically now as he could when he played Dirty Harry.  Also, Carlos is supposed to be still less than <25 years old in WN, so trying to get an actor more than twice that age to play him even younger at his first appearance in SK seems to be asking a bit much (until recently, I've always thought we need to find a younger version of Mario Lopez to play non-time-travel Carlos).
In any case, here are some additional actors (and possible roles for them)/list changes that I've come up with in the last few days:
Christoph Waltz - Quintus Cassius? 
Kyle MacLachlan - Victor Shadowman?
Julianna Guill - Lasciel/Andi (if her hair is dyed)
David Koechner - Carmichael  (Bruce Campbell is awesome {and a close second after Nathan Fillion for time-travel Dresden}, but as long as we're pointing out physicality/age-related problems with suggested lists, don't forget that Carmichael is fat and balding, and we'll have enough make-up budget problems already, w/o adding fat suits and bald caps/wigs.
Evil Bob should be the British one, BTW (and kind of a snob), so maybe Terrence Stamp?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Bdubs8807 on February 13, 2015, 04:47:08 AM
I like the one JB used for that scene--Jagger/Richard's "Sympathy for the Devil".  Agree about "Werewolves of London" though.  Also like Zevon's "Jungle Work" as soundtrack for when Harry, Murphy and Kincaid go in after the Vampire scourge and their Renfields.

But there's no shortage of werewolf songs that could be applied--"Super Beast" (Rob Zombie), "Bark at the Moon" (Ozzy), and one from my favorite band "The Wolf is Loose" (Mastodon); two other good ones by Disturbed and Metallica that I can't remember the titles.
For pretty much any/all title themes where the opening scene is Harry in the Blue Beetle, the song should fade out to being on the radio, then it should cut out with a squawk/squeal of feedback or something, as the radio in his car dies.  Again.
For the social hour at the party in GP, an instrumental/string quartet version of "Monster Mash" should be playing as or maybe after Harry walks in.
And SPOILER (I forget if this thread is spoiler-friendly or not), "Knocking on Heaven's Door" for the end of Changes. *Obvious credits song is obvious*
And then Jen Titus' "Oh Death" for either the opening credits for Ghost Story and/or Cold Days.
You can tell that I've been binge-watching Supernatural lately because most of my music suggestions are Classic Rock...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Shinblam on February 13, 2015, 05:44:00 AM
In any case, here are some additional actors (and possible roles for them)/list changes that I've come up with in the last few days:
Christoph Waltz - Quintus Cassius? 
Kyle MacLachlan - Victor Shadowman?
Julianna Guill - Lasciel/Andi (if her hair is dyed)
David Koechner - Carmichael  (Bruce Campbell is awesome {and a close second after Nathan Fillion for time-travel Dresden}, but as long as we're pointing out physicality/age-related problems with suggested lists, don't forget that Carmichael is fat and balding, and we'll have enough make-up budget problems already, w/o adding fat suits and bald caps/wigs.
Evil Bob should be the British one, BTW (and kind of a snob), so maybe Terrence Stamp?
I rather like these picks, I might just steal your MacLachlan pick for The Shadowman. I think however that Guill would make a better Andi than Lash/Lasciel(I've got Brit Morgan as my choice for Lash).

I personally believe that something like Carmichael being bald and fat isn't so important. To me, as long as Bruce Campbell is a little overweight and haggard looking then I feel like it's close enough. I'm looking for an actor I like that can be crass and jaded, as well as a bit of a slob, yet still be an excellent cop. I like Campbell because he can do all that as well as take a minor character that doesn't leave much of an impression in print and give him a much more memorable presence on screen. With an actor like Bruce Campbell I could see SPOILER!!! Carmichael's death in Fool Moon having a much larger emotional impact on viewers.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 15, 2015, 11:46:45 PM
Another face while I'm thinking about it.

Gideon Emery for Nicodemus.  Not only does he have the look, but he's got a good voice.  He was on this last week's episode of Grimm, and I saw him previously on Teen Wolf.  He's got a presence on the screen that would work well for Nicodemus, I think.
(http://image-cdn.zap2it.com/images/gideon-emery.jpg)

Emery is the guy in the elevator talking to Scott (the teen wolf).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGmgyE2Cuy4
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on February 16, 2015, 12:05:53 AM
Mm, I think he is actually too pretty for that, I would cast him as a centaur or Sidhe lord. Or a Raith.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 16, 2015, 12:43:07 AM
Mm, I think he is actually too pretty for that, I would cast him as a centaur or Sidhe lord. Or a Raith.

Hell, mess up his hair a little more, don't let him shave for coupla days, and if he needs 'em give him elevator shoes, and he works for Harry...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on February 16, 2015, 02:31:12 PM
Hell, mess up his hair a little more, don't let him shave for coupla days, and if he needcs 'em give him elevator shoes, and he's work for Harry...

+1!

Or Dina's Raith idea. That works, too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PM
Mm, I think he is actually too pretty for that, I would cast him as a centaur or Sidhe lord. Or a Raith.
See, I like his screen presence enough that I'd want him around more than Papa Raith or some one-shot character.  Papa Raith was really only around for, what, his intro in BR, the climax of BR, and the climax of WN?  And in the latter he has maybe one or two lines?  Unless Papa Raith is going to make a comeback, I'd say the role was big enough.

Hell, mess up his hair a little more, don't let him shave for coupla days, and if he needcs 'em give him elevator shoes, and he's work for Harry...
In that picture, sure, as current Harry.  But he's 42, 3 years older than current Harry, which would make casting him as a 25 year old Harry difficult.  And he's only 5'10", so he'd need platform shoes to even come close to Harry's height.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 16, 2015, 09:56:49 PM
In that picture, sure, as current Harry.  But he's 42, 3 years older than current Harry, which would make casting him as a 25 year old Harry difficult.  And he's only 5'10", so he'd need platform shoes to even come close to Harry's height.

The "age" problem is routinely solved by good makeup crews.  Think about it.  There are all kinds of people playing teenagers on TV and what not who are in their thirties.

Makeup and lighting solve a lifetime of ills on the silver screen.  Would you really wanna see Cher without hers?

As for the height thing, Brian Jackson had to accommodate considerably worse height differences when he filmed the Lord of the Rings Movies than that you object to concerning this particular actor (whom I don't recall seeing in any movie, and I don't watch TV except in airport boarding gate lobbies).  It's doable.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on February 16, 2015, 11:23:34 PM
Peter  :D
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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 17, 2015, 01:53:26 AM
Peter  :D

Who?
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Post by: Dina on February 17, 2015, 01:56:36 AM
Peter Jackson, not Brian Jackson  :)
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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 20, 2015, 06:48:41 AM
Peter Jackson, not Brian Jackson  :)

Ah.  Right.  I wonder who Brian Jackson is?
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Post by: Quantus on February 20, 2015, 01:13:00 PM
Per Wikipedia either a 70's musician or an American Football player.  Either of those ring any bells?
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Post by: brighellac on February 20, 2015, 02:05:11 PM
How about Matthew perry of Friends fame for Harry if the DF ever went the episodic Game of Thrones route?  He was always able to take a beating
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Post by: Quantus on February 20, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
How about Matthew perry of Friends fame for Harry if the DF ever went the episodic Game of Thrones route?  He was always able to take a beating
too spastic, not ever intimidating...
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Post by: brighellac on February 21, 2015, 05:34:36 AM
Harry can be a bit of a spaz, remember the lacuna interactions.  The intimidation factor you speak of is the main concern as well as being too identifiable with another character.
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Post by: Quantus on February 21, 2015, 06:12:36 PM
Harry can be a bit of a spaz, remember the lacuna interactions.  The intimidation factor you speak of is the main concern as well as being too identifiable with another character.
huh?
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Post by: Griffyn612 on February 21, 2015, 07:17:09 PM
huh?
I think they're talking about the nearly nude conversation with Lacuna in the bedroom. Harry was nervous chattering.
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Post by: Quantus on February 21, 2015, 07:45:36 PM
Id be nervious if I found a barbie doll that had recently almost killed my standing there debating the philosphpic role of cloths, while also casually offering to peel open my skull...

Make no mistake: Lacuna is creepy as all hell, she just happens to be small enough that we naturally find her less threatening (foolish us  :P)
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Post by: groinkick on February 21, 2015, 08:16:01 PM
Mirror Mirror Dresden


(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8z8trD8O31r96d0eo3_1280.jpg)
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Post by: Tami Seven on February 21, 2015, 09:09:30 PM
I'm in favor of casting with an eye on age. If done as a series, over time the actors/actresses will get older and eventually even makeup can't fake it.

I like the idea of watching the actors grow older along with the characters. Something they did well in the Harry Potter series.
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Post by: brighellac on February 22, 2015, 02:08:59 PM
I'm in favor of casting with an eye on age. If done as a series, over time the actors/actresses will get older and eventually even makeup can't fake it.

I like the idea of watching the actors grow older along with the characters. Something they did well in the Harry Potter series.

It's a problem.  The age range for the characters is fifteen plus years
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Post by: Tami Seven on February 22, 2015, 06:09:54 PM
It's a problem.  The age range for the characters is fifteen plus years

It's easier to make a person look older with makeup then to make them look younger.
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Post by: Quantus on February 23, 2015, 01:50:05 PM
It's also a problem in that they would need to age differently.  For example: Older wizards would need to be static, Carpenter kids would need to change far more with far less screen time.  Harry would need to eventually start looking like the older brother, something he's even remarked on in the books.  The alpha's start as pudgy college nerds and become fitness model looking, across the board.
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Post by: Tami Seven on February 23, 2015, 11:41:38 PM
It's also a problem in that they would need to age differently.  For example: Older wizards would need to be static, Carpenter kids would need to change far more with far less screen time.  Harry would need to eventually start looking like the older brother, something he's even remarked on in the books.  The alpha's start as pudgy college nerds and become fitness model looking, across the board.

Especially with children, it's easier to do with age appropriate actors than using older actors. Its' not easy to cast like that, but if it can be done it would be best for the series overall. IMHO
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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 25, 2015, 10:43:57 AM
Per Wikipedia either a 70's musician or an American Football player.  Either of those ring any bells?

No.  The Musician maybe.  What band?
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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 25, 2015, 10:46:24 AM
she just happens to be small enough that we naturally find her less threatening (foolish us  :P)

Yep.  Slightly bigger than a Death Stalker scorpion.  With similar armor.
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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 25, 2015, 10:47:13 AM
Mirror Mirror Dresden


(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8z8trD8O31r96d0eo3_1280.jpg)

Who dis guy?
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Post by: Griffyn612 on February 25, 2015, 12:44:46 PM
Who dis guy?
That's Karl Urban from that post-apocalyptic vampire movie that's basically Judge Dredd with vampires.
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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 26, 2015, 02:36:26 AM
That's Karl Urban from that post-apocalyptic vampire movie that's basically Judge Dredd with vampires.

Huh.  Missed that one, and I like Karl Urban.  Surprisingly Harry-like (well, except for the hat)  ;)
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Post by: Quantus on February 27, 2015, 05:52:02 PM
Huh.  Missed that one, and I like Karl Urban.  Surprisingly Harry-like (well, except for the hat)  ;)
You didnt miss anything, trust me....
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Post by: brighellac on February 28, 2015, 02:46:00 AM
You didnt miss anything, trust me....

I think it's called Priest.  It's ok for watching on Netflix or cable.
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Post by: Kai Yoat on April 01, 2015, 01:14:43 AM
what about manu bennett as erlking
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1052472/images/o-SPARTACUS-MANU-BENNETT-facebook.jpg)
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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on April 16, 2015, 07:22:39 PM
what about manu bennett as erlking
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1052472/images/o-SPARTACUS-MANU-BENNETT-facebook.jpg)

I prefer Michael Dorne (he wears asymmetrical cranial/facial enhancements so well)...
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Post by: Foxed on April 20, 2015, 05:24:21 PM
Did I ever recommend my Mab choice in this thread?

I might not have.

Robin Wright (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000705/)

OR

Lena Headey (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0372176/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: geekmode on May 06, 2015, 04:04:37 AM
I was thinking emma stone as molly and the guy who plays oliver queen in arrow as harry. hes not quite tall enough but if you could get him to crack a joke he has the right look.
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Post by: ITheHellAmFan on May 06, 2015, 01:08:53 PM
I know I already mentioned it in media favorites, but I''ll say it again here.  I apologize for forgetting the actresses name but whoever played Madame Gao in Daredevil would make a perfect Ancient Mai.
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Post by: Quantus on May 06, 2015, 01:17:56 PM
I prefer Michael Dorne (he wears asymmetrical cranial/facial enhancements so well)...
True, but he's 62 now.  Erl needs to be more in Prime than that. Manu Bennett works for me actually.  He can weart the asymetric bit well, and shows the right kind of menace when he was the Arrow villain last season. 
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Post by: Foxed on May 06, 2015, 03:15:00 PM
I was thinking emma stone as molly and the guy who plays oliver queen in arrow as harry. hes not quite tall enough but if you could get him to crack a joke he has the right look.

I was actually thinking about Stephen Amell for Thomas, based entirely on the fact that he is so pretty. Colton Haynes works well, too. (And, in a trippy meta-feedback loop, Paul Blackthorne as Malcolm!)

Also, while we're mining Arrow, John Barrowman as Lord Raith, Cynthia Addai-Robinson as Gard, Carlos Valdes as Ramirez.
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Post by: Foxed on May 06, 2015, 05:25:27 PM
Finally, Brandon Routh as Harry.
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Post by: Griffyn612 on May 06, 2015, 05:27:00 PM
(https://4chanmemeandmotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/turtle_is_not_angry_-_turtle_is_disappointed_in_you.jpg)
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Post by: Foxed on May 06, 2015, 05:46:13 PM
Slightly nerdy, fast talker? He also fits Murph's description of him.

(Hey, I like the Atom when he's not being a creepy cyberstalker.)
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Post by: Dina on May 07, 2015, 01:37:04 AM
I've been postulating Barrowman for Lord Raith for ages. He would be great.
I don't actually want Amell for anything.
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Post by: dcinti on May 07, 2015, 03:12:21 PM
I do not know if this is the perfect cast list but here are a few of my probable maybe even favourites for certain characters from the Dresden Universe.
Harry - Edward Norton
Karin - Julia Stiles/Krystin Pellerin(Republic of Doyle)
Thomas - Paul Bettany
Marcone - Michael Madsen
Luccio - Kate Beckensale
Vadderaung - Jeremy Irons
Susan - Rhona Mitra
Kincade - Jason Statham
Bob - the late Robin Williams
Ebenezar - Sir Anthony Hopkins
Michael Carpenter - Russell Crowe
Charity Carpenter - Michelle Fairly
Morgan - Sylvestor Stallone
The Merlin - the late Richard Harris
Molly - Emma Watson
Butters - Paul Giamatti
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Post by: Foxed on May 07, 2015, 03:42:32 PM
Krysten Ritter for one of the Paranet women from White Night.

Giamatti's a bit old for Butters.
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Post by: dcinti on May 07, 2015, 08:49:04 PM
Krysten Ritter for one of the Paranet women from White Night.

Giamatti's a bit old for Butters.
Now that I think about it...Gamiatti may be a bit odd.
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Post by: Dina on May 07, 2015, 09:36:19 PM
I like your cast, except for Russell Crowe. I don't like him and Michael is one of my favorite characters, so no.
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Post by: geekmode on May 08, 2015, 02:24:34 AM
I do not know if this is the perfect cast list but here are a few of my probable maybe even favourites for certain characters from the Dresden Universe.
Harry - Edward Norton
Karin - Julia Stiles/Krystin Pellerin(Republic of Doyle)
Thomas - Paul Bettany
Marcone - Michael Madsen
Luccio - Kate Beckensale
Vadderaung - Jeremy Irons
Susan - Rhona Mitra
Kincade - Jason Statham
Bob - the late Robin Williams
Ebenezar - Sir Anthony Hopkins
Michael Carpenter - Russell Crowe
Charity Carpenter - Michelle Fairly
Morgan - Sylvestor Stallone
The Merlin - the late Richard Harris
Molly - Emma Watson
Butters - Paul Giamatti

emma watson doesnt have the figure for molly and im not sure she could play the half mad molly from ghost story. possibly jennifer lawrence. spot on with bob though.
 
 
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Post by: Griffyn612 on May 08, 2015, 02:45:28 AM
I like your cast, except for Russell Crowe. I don't like him and Michael is one of my favorite characters, so no.
Hugh Jackman as Michael FTW!
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/polls/416000/416557_1270837855935_full.jpg)
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Post by: geekmode on May 08, 2015, 02:47:45 AM
hugh jackman is a perfect michael.
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Post by: Dina on May 08, 2015, 03:09:55 AM
I am ok with Hugh Jackman  :)
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Post by: Quantus on May 08, 2015, 03:09:39 PM
I dunno.  I mean, I I dunno.  I mean, I like him as an actor, and he as the physically imposing look to him.  But he's almost always some kind of Haunted, and Michael needs to be able to project an air of Contented Inner Peace that is pretty damn hard to pull off, and jackmans usually comes across as too...Hard. 

IMm currently on Dylan Neal for Michael.

(http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/79/590x/446915_1.jpg)

Oddly though, some of his pictures look equally good for marcone, to my mind
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131005034428/arrow/images/3/3e/Dylan_Neal.png)
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Post by: Dina on May 09, 2015, 01:21:11 AM
Yes, he looks quite Marcone, but he could do a Michael, I think
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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 10, 2015, 10:14:54 AM
Krysten Ritter for one of the Paranet women from White Night.

Giamatti's a bit old for Butters.

Giamatti was my first pick for Butters back when I started this thread.  That was because there's another guy who's even better but I couldn't (and still can't) remember his name.  Kinda reconsidering that, though.  Maybe I'm mentally aging him downwards to make him a better fit for Andi (and for his brief physical descriptions in-text).

Someone suggested Jeremy Irons for Vadderung.  I think he works better as post-strangulation Nicodemus.  Got the voice for it.  Kris Kristofferson way better for Vadderung.

Sir Anthony Hopkins for Ebenezar?  Oh, hell no.  Speaking voice not brusque enough, too whimpy.

Need someone who looks like the late Richard Attenborough (I've always visualized Ebenezar this way) but who sounds like Robert Duvall.  Actually, belay that.  Robert Duvall would be a good Ebenezar--and he does a variety of accents as well.

And Samantha Mumba MUST be Tera West.  No one else will do.
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Post by: Dina on May 10, 2015, 09:16:16 PM
Isn´t Tera a ginger?
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Post by: Griffyn612 on May 10, 2015, 10:41:39 PM
Isn´t Tera a ginger?
Nah, she was dark of skin and hair with a silver streak. 

I'm a little partial to Tonantzin Carmelo or Julia Jones, but I'm willing to keep an open mind.
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Post by: Dina on May 10, 2015, 10:56:06 PM
Weird, I distinctly remember everyone in this forum speculating about how the red haired boy who heard ghosts was his son (I believe so) and one of the arguments was his hair matching hers. I am confused. I pictured her dark blonde in Fool moon.

I can't imagine her as a black woman.
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Post by: Griffyn612 on May 10, 2015, 11:01:54 PM
Weird, I distinctly remember everyone in this forum speculating about how the red haired boy who heard ghosts was his son (I believe so) and one of the arguments was his hair matching hers. I am confused. I pictured her dark blonde in Fool moon.

I can't imagine her as a black woman.
I've heard the parentage theory, but I think the red hair came from MacFinn's side. He wasn't a red-head either, but I think it's more likely a recessive gene from his bloodline. (if the theory is correct)
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Post by: Dina on May 10, 2015, 11:06:54 PM
So Tera should be heterozygote too. Well, I'll keep having my mental image of Tera.
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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 10, 2015, 11:22:17 PM
Weird, I distinctly remember everyone in this forum speculating about how the red haired boy who heard ghosts was his son (I believe so) and one of the arguments was his hair matching hers. I am confused. I pictured her dark blonde in Fool moon.

I can't imagine her as a black woman.

Her descriptions didn't suggest she was white.  Filipino or Thai, if anything, but Ms. Mumba is close enough to those phenotypes to pull it off.  Particularly the part about mesmerizing cops on a stakeout by dancing naked.  Yow wow!
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Post by: Foxed on May 12, 2015, 10:05:25 AM
She is, as far as the text is concerned, a wolf. Her implied race from the book is the least important thing to get right.

That said, I would shoot for a Native actress, since most of the popular theories have her as a Coyote scion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on May 12, 2015, 01:48:25 PM
I thought just the opposite. Because she is a wolf, her hair and skin are very important. Since I am a biologist, I never thought in any human ancestry, only in wolves colors.
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Post by: Foxed on May 12, 2015, 03:03:30 PM
Except the Alphas are taught by Tera to transform into what they imagine werewolves to look like. Conversely, since she uses the same technique, she transforms into what she imagines humans look like. Her palette, as it were, aren't limited to naturalistic wolf tones.
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Post by: mid_life_crisis on May 12, 2015, 03:44:00 PM
I don't know if this got mentioned for the soundtrack, but with a line like, "if a house gets in my way, you know I'll burn it down", no Dresden film would be complete without Stranglehold by Ted Nugent.
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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 14, 2015, 10:29:56 AM
She is, as far as the text is concerned, a wolf. Her implied race from the book is the least important thing to get right.

That said, I would shoot for a Native actress, since most of the popular theories have her as a Coyote scion.

But her description isn't consistent with being pale-skinned, blond and blue-eyed.  She was dark-skinned, had dark brown-grey hair, and--IIRC--brown eyes (actually said amber eyes that could just barely qualify as brown--i.e. wolf eyes).  And when I suggested Will Smith for Harry's role, the village mob got out the torches and pitchforks--despite the fact JB himself has made the same suggestion...

But as for Coyote, while wolves and coyotes do hybridize, it's primarily due to the wholesale elimination of the former.  I think there are wolf-spirit entities that would probably be closer to the role you've suggested, and they occur in Celtic as well as North American Native tradition.  Since allegedly St. Patrick was the one who cursed Harley MacFinn's ancestor (and I think 'Fitz' is a Celtic word), might be worth looking into.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on May 14, 2015, 02:43:39 PM
Of course, if Jim gave that description in the book she should be portrayed by a dark skinned woman. I was only laughing at myself because I've reread FM at least 7 times and never changed my mental image of her. I even thought (wrongly) that the forums has told that she was a ginger and it didn't affect my mind either.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: dcinti on May 15, 2015, 01:08:59 AM
I like your cast, except for Russell Crowe. I don't like him and Michael is one of my favorite characters, so no.
Don't like Russell. Who would you choose?
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Post by: Dina on May 15, 2015, 02:31:09 AM
I am not sure. One of my newest favorites is Jeff Faney-
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: dcinti on May 15, 2015, 03:52:19 PM
I am not sure. One of my newest favorites is Jeff Faney-
Could work...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 15, 2015, 04:03:02 PM
I don't know if this got mentioned for the soundtrack, but with a line like, "if a house gets in my way, you know I'll burn it down", no Dresden film would be complete without Stranglehold by Ted Nugent.

I find pretty much anything and everything complete without hearing anything from or by Ted Nugent.
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Post by: Foxed on May 15, 2015, 06:29:05 PM
But her description isn't consistent with being pale-skinned, blond and blue-eyed.  She was dark-skinned, had dark brown-grey hair, and--IIRC--brown eyes (actually said amber eyes that could just barely qualify as brown--i.e. wolf eyes).

... Sounds like Native isn't a bad fit, for various shades of "dark-skinned."

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But as for Coyote, while wolves and coyotes do hybridize, it's primarily due to the wholesale elimination of the former.  I think there are wolf-spirit entities that would probably be closer to the role you've suggested, and they occur in Celtic as well as North American Native tradition.  Since allegedly St. Patrick was the one who cursed Harley MacFinn's ancestor (and I think 'Fitz' is a Celtic word), might be worth looking into.

I take your point. My general lack of knowledge regarding Native traditions made me posit Coyote/wolf, but Wolf/wolf makes more sense.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 15, 2015, 11:50:40 PM
... Sounds like Native isn't a bad fit, for various shades of "dark-skinned."

I take your point. My general lack of knowledge regarding Native traditions made me posit Coyote/wolf, but Wolf/wolf makes more sense.

Recall also that coyotes didn't enjoy the huge range they currently occupy back in the day.  When I was a kid in NW MO, coyotes were unheard of there.  They're very common there, now.  Same with armadillos.

As for why the latter's range has expanded, I don't think anyone knows--when I was a kid they were pretty much restricted to southern TX.  Coyotes, on the other hand, expanded once large-scale extermination of wolves created vacancies for 'em.  One of the main reasons why the smaller Red Wolf of the SE US is now critically endangered--because Coyotes have moved in and genetically swamped 'em.  Coyotes and Crows are the two native North American animals that have actually become more numerous since the arrival of Europeans.  Tendency has been in the other direction for most other species...

Point is that prior to European colonization Coyotes were much less numerous and widespread.  Center of distribution more in the American southwest than is the case today.  Therefore the legendary entity of that name likely--at least originally--had a similar range among cultures of that region.  Northern Plains nations, particularly in Canada, and those of eastern North America probably envisioned Wolf, rather than Coyote, spiritual entities.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on May 25, 2015, 05:36:47 AM
Don't like Russell. Who would you choose?

For Thomas?  Michael Wincott.  Always been my choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Azurlandra on June 01, 2015, 08:28:37 PM
Hi, I'm new.  I pictured Mark Shepard from the tv series Supernatural as Nicodemus.

Azurlandra
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 03, 2015, 01:31:13 PM
Hi, I'm new.  I pictured Mark Shepard from the tv series Supernatural as Nicodemus.

Azurlandra
His Crowley could certainly pull of the tone of the character, but I always picture Nicodemon as more skeletally skinny, and a indeterminant but weathered look of age. 

And then, of course, to me it's not Mark Sheppard from Supernatural, it's Mark sheppard from Firefly, so he will Forever be my Binder pick :)


PS Welcome to the Insanity!
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Post by: Azurlandra on June 03, 2015, 03:27:22 PM
Ahhh, I can see Binder in him absolutely.  :) 

Azurlandra
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 04, 2015, 02:44:28 AM
Ahhh, I can see Binder in him absolutely.  :) 

Azurlandra

Yup.  Been my pick since the git-go (also because of Firefly).  Got two picks for Nicodemus--first is Lani Tupu (as he appeared as the "Peace-Keeper" in Farscape).  Admittedly I picture him as equally good for Morgan's role.  Second Nicodemus pick is Jeremy Irons--especially since he's gotten that gravelly voice with age (and/or unhealthy habits).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 04, 2015, 04:31:42 AM
I currently prefer Gideon Emery for Nico.  He's the guy with sunglasses in the elevator in this preview.

https://youtu.be/gGmgyE2Cuy4
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 04, 2015, 01:45:09 PM
Yup.  Been my pick since the git-go (also because of Firefly).  Got two picks for Nicodemus--first is Lani Tupu (as he appeared as the "Peace-Keeper" in Farscape).  Admittedly I picture him as equally good for Morgan's role.  Second Nicodemus pick is Jeremy Irons--especially since he's gotten that gravelly voice with age (and/or unhealthy habits).
My top three for Nic are: Robert Carlyle, Jeremy Irons, or Andrew Scott (aka Moriarty from the BBC Sherlock)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on June 05, 2015, 09:31:52 AM
This is really sad, but I have a whole Google Doc devoted to this. There are several gaps, but here’s who I have so far. They’re behind spoilers because I’ve embedded a ton of images.

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I have more, but since it’s after 4 a.m. here I’ll wait until tomorrow to dig up the rest of the pics.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 05, 2015, 01:02:23 PM
This is really sad, but I have a whole Google Doc devoted to this. There are several gaps, but here’s who I have so far. They’re behind spoilers because I’ve embedded a ton of images.

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I have more, but since it’s after 4 a.m. here I’ll wait until tomorrow to dig up the rest of the pics.
Thats actually a fantastic list!  Not my picks in almost every instance, but I could see all of them working.  I also realized that I think Im casting almost everyone based the versions of actors from about 10 years ago.  Now I feel Old... 
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Post by: Azurlandra on June 05, 2015, 02:38:07 PM
I couldn't place Jeremy Irons at first but once I googled him and his pic came up dawn hit.  :)  I can clearly see a noose knot neck-tie and a quiet evil smile.  :S

Azurlandra
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on June 05, 2015, 05:08:43 PM
Thats actually a fantastic list!  Not my picks in almost every instance, but I could see all of them working.  I also realized that I think Im casting almost everyone based the versions of actors from about 10 years ago.  Now I feel Old...
God, I know. I found out Karl Urban is actually 42 and I was like, aw.
I couldn't place Jeremy Irons at first but once I googled him and his pic came up dawn hit.  :)  I can clearly see a noose knot neck-tie and a quiet evil smile.  :S
Ooh, Alfred from the upcoming Batman v. Superman. He would be a great Nicky. But lemme hit y’all with my lineup:

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Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 07, 2015, 07:20:40 PM
God, I know. I found out Karl Urban is actually 42 and I was like, aw. Ooh, Alfred from the upcoming Batman v. Superman. He would be a great Nicky. But lemme hit y’all with my lineup:

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Agree with a lot of your picks.  Mine for Tera West was Samantha Mumbo, but Laverne Cox would work (as Tera) too.  Yayussss...

Jeff Bridges was my second choice for Vadderung, and your photo of him sort of endorses that IMHO.  My first pick was Kris Kristofferson.

DEFINITELY like Scarlette Johansen as Lara Raith.  Yayusss agin!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 07, 2015, 07:24:53 PM
Lani Tupu--Morgan (1st choice), Nicodemus (2nd choice)

(http://images.buddytv.com/usrimages/usr23792/23792_lani-tupu-farscape.jpg)

Michael Wincott--Thomas (only choice)

(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/7908/wincott1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 07, 2015, 07:33:49 PM
Vadderung/Odin/Kringle:

(http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/multimedia/dynamic/00109/jeff-bridges-1024_109689k.jpg)

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.hitfix.com/assets/7436/seventh_sonBenBarnesJeffBridges.jpg)

(http://www.blastr.com/sites/blastr/files/styles/blog_post_media/public/jeff-bridges-by-marco-grob.jpg?itok=U-amV7S8)

(First choice was Kris Kristofferson, but recent photos of him suggest he'd be too old for Vadderung, unless makeup and maybe CGI could fix him up sufficiently).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: frankcesca on June 08, 2015, 09:55:04 AM
This is really sad, but I have a whole Google Doc devoted to this. There are several gaps, but here’s who I have so far. They’re behind spoilers because I’ve embedded a ton of images.

Ooh, Denarian, I love your picks for the White Council. Plus George Takei as Shiro. Awesome. Plus, I've also always seen Josh Hutcherson (or Daniel Radcliffe) as Daniel Carpenter. Emma Stone would make a great Lily. And Laverne Cox - YES! And your pick for Inari is great, too.

Bilal - that's Geoff Bridges you're casting as Donar/Odin, right? Awesomely appropriate pics.

Griff - that guy would be perfect as Nicky.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 08, 2015, 03:13:22 PM
Bilal - that's Geoff Bridges you're casting as Donar/Odin, right? Awesomely appropriate pics.

Yeah, I meant that Kris K was my first choice, but in recent photos I found of him he seems to have aged to where he's no longer appropriate to the role.  Jeff Bridges was always my second choice.  Now promoted to first.  They need to hurry up and make the damned movies or he'll be too old, too.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 08, 2015, 03:19:30 PM
Lupita Nyong'o as the Angel of Death in GS (always envisioned her for the part):

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyET0fop1f5XPsBUW0_Rqi2hXJ295laBg4x2sXp5raOr2rTQM)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 08, 2015, 03:34:38 PM
Rawlins:

(http://www.cheese-magnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/BTB-ERNIE-HUDSON-1024x606.jpg)

Sanya:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/51/e3/6d/51e36d045bfd98724b5332f1817963e4.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 08, 2015, 07:03:50 PM
Lord Hern/the Erl Koenig (will require some makeup/prosthesis, but he's been there, done that):

(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/69/225505133_e8a6d057f8.jpg)

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSOS7AlCareH0ikOD81CPN7pZCYde5j5CRuJ5Sy0m63yV1zwq3lFQ)


(http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/WorfAngry.jpeg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 08, 2015, 08:59:06 PM
No Idris Elba for Erlking?
(http://www.greatnewmovies.com/wp-content/uploads/Idris-Elba-to-Reprise-as-Heimdall-in-Thor-2.jpg)

Dorn would make a better Rawlins, and Hudsdon could Stallings.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 08, 2015, 09:09:33 PM
Manu Bennett is my current as Elrking



I dont have a good Sanya, ever since Michael Duncan Clark passed away :'(





It is unavoidable that James Marsters MUST be cast as something, he deserves to be involved.  I Vote him as Nicodemus; he is the perfect build and tone, so long as he's not a bleach blond.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 08, 2015, 11:05:12 PM
Manu Bennett is my current as Elrking



I dont have a good Sanya, ever since Michael Duncan Clark passed away :'(

Erl and Sanya are negotiable, but I can't visualize Rawlins as anyone else but Mr. Hudson.  No more than I can visualize a clean-shaven Sanya.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on June 09, 2015, 05:09:31 AM
Vadderung/Odin/Kringle:

(click to show/hide)

(First choice was Kris Kristofferson, but recent photos of him suggest he'd be too old for Vadderung, unless makeup and maybe CGI could fix him up sufficiently).
See, for me Ebenezar was always a toss-up between Jeff here, and Tommy Lee Jones. Now I’m starting to see Jeff as Vadderung. Dammit, stop that! If we could somehow put Patrick Stewart’s voice and personality inside Jeff Bridges… guh, now I’m conflicted.
Manu Bennett is my current as Elrking
Ooh, he’s perfect! I had Michael Shannon but yours is so much better.
Here’s my pick for Carmichael:
(http://i.imgur.com/BEJX4Z4.jpg)
Ooh, Denarian, I love your picks for the White Council. Plus George Takei as Shiro. Awesome. Plus, I've also always seen Josh Hutcherson (or Daniel Radcliffe) as Daniel Carpenter. Emma Stone would make a great Lily. And Laverne Cox - YES! And your pick for Inari is great, too.
Thank you!
I freaking love Laverne Cox and am currently calculating how to get to the parallel reality where she was cast as Wonder Woman. ;D Inari was kind of last minute but all the others you just mentioned clicked into place right away. Like I never saw anyone else but Malkovich as LaFortier, or Nichols as Martha Liberty. Josh Hutcherson I immediately thought of as Daniel Carpenter, which is weird because I’m not even a big Hunger Games fan. Takei as Shiro seemed odd at first, until I remembered Sulu was a fencer. And George Takei is the coolest, fittest older Japanese man I can imagine.

Also, can I just say how impressed I am with the members of this forum that nobody complained about my choice for Billy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 09, 2015, 05:36:00 AM
Billy? I have zero problem with that choice. I wouldn't back some others, though, but I share same.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on June 09, 2015, 06:12:17 AM
He just slotted into place. Michael B. Jordan is the one thing I’m looking forward to about the new F4 movie.

I’m still utterly stuck for Butters and Bianca though. :(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 09, 2015, 06:52:32 AM
He just slotted into place. Michael B. Jordan is the one thing I’m looking forward to about the new F4 movie.

I’m still utterly stuck for Butters and Bianca though. :(

I picked Michael Shannon either for Agent Tilly or Fr. Roarke Douglas.  Wish I could agree with your commendation of forum participants for not complaining about your choice for Billy Borden, but when I suggested Will Smith for Harry the villagers gathered with their torches and pitchforks.  Despite the fact JB himself made the same call.

PS: Pat Morita woulda been my pick for Shiro, if he was still living (may Allah have Mercy on him).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 09, 2015, 07:33:14 AM
The Naagloshii (just add yellow paint):

(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003405231/c1d13afc04e185848952859c0fdc83dd_answer_2_xlarge.jpeg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 09, 2015, 07:38:24 AM
Warden Carlos Ramirez (bearded and beardless versions):

(http://img.poptower.com/pic-10289/benjamin-bratt.jpg?d=1024)
(http://a1.files.biography.com/image/upload/c_fill,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,g_face,h_300,q_80,w_300/MTE5NDg0MDU1MTk2MzA0OTEx.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 09, 2015, 11:49:55 AM
Warden Carlos Ramirez (bearded and beardless versions):

(http://img.poptower.com/pic-10289/benjamin-bratt.jpg?d=1024)
(http://a1.files.biography.com/image/upload/c_fill,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,g_face,h_300,q_80,w_300/MTE5NDg0MDU1MTk2MzA0OTEx.jpg)
He would have been perfect back in the day, but he's 51 now...

Id be ok with Carlos Valdez (aka Cisco from The Flash tv show) as somebody suggested, for the fast-talking personality, but on pure looks I think he needs to be more of a pretty boy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 09, 2015, 04:32:34 PM
Just caught Age of Dragons on Syfy, and in tribute, I once again cast Sofia Pernez as Susan Rodriguez.

(http://cdn.fstatic.com/public/artists/avatar/2011/08/thumbs/ba3f01021162680c8240f91cd8b6ed4f_jpg_640x480_upscale_q90.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 09, 2015, 05:14:30 PM
Diego Luna as Ramirez?
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BOTE0MjI2NDczMl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTgwMDgyMg@@._V1._SX276_SY400_.jpg)

For me, Susan has always been Alicia Coppola, but she may be a touch old now. So perhaps Erica Cerra is still the main candidate. I think she could play Bianca too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on June 09, 2015, 05:15:23 PM
Harry Dresden: Charlie Cox
Karrin Murphy: Kristen Bell
Detective Carmichael: John Doman
Susan Rodriguez: Rosario Dawson
John Marcone: Wentworth Miller
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on June 09, 2015, 07:41:25 PM
 
He would have been perfect back in the day, but he's 51 now...

Id be ok with Carlos Valdez (aka Cisco from The Flash tv show) as somebody suggested, for the fast-talking personality, but on pure looks I think he needs to be more of a pretty boy.
Carlos Valdés has both the looks and the personality for Carlos Ramirez. Plus I get the sense he could play a badass if needed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 09, 2015, 07:43:56 PM
author=Quantus link=topic=39320.msg2161058#msg2161058 date=1433850595]
He would have been perfect back in the day, but he's 51 now...

Id be ok with Carlos Valdez (aka Cisco from The Flash tv show) as somebody suggested, for the fast-talking personality, but on pure looks I think he needs to be more of a pretty boy.

 Carlos Valdés has both the looks and the personality for Carlos Ramirez. Plus I get the sense he could play a badass if needed.
I had Carlos in my head with more lean angular features than Valdes has in Flash.  But that's just me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 09, 2015, 11:26:32 PM
I picture Carlos as more like Richard Cabral.

(https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w396/wKNdJXC66ajHXz8cUQGAaHHlcZr.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on June 10, 2015, 05:15:24 AM
I can see it. :-)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 10, 2015, 08:47:55 AM
I picture Carlos as more like Richard Cabral.

I see Carlos as more "nerdy".  He's certainly written that way.  He's just better than hiding it than most.  I think Bratt would work--old is less of an issue with Hollowbold makeup skills and CGI.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 10, 2015, 11:23:00 AM
Ebenezar McCoy (the Blackstaff):

(http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/timthumb.php_1.jpg)

And he does a variety of accents, including hillbilly.  Occasional lapses into Scottish shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 10, 2015, 02:55:05 PM
I see Carlos as more "nerdy".  He's certainly written that way.  He's just better than hiding it than most.  I think Bratt would work--old is less of an issue with Hollowbold makeup skills and CGI.
???

I think he'd be a much better Ortega.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 10, 2015, 07:22:26 PM
???

I think he'd be a much better Ortega.

From his descriptions I see Ortega more like dis (S. M. Quezada):

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjyiRz_t_rOiZP0HuNSJmlvj_9MuNMkEfxOct-Bp3HAqJXphT1)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 10, 2015, 08:44:31 PM
From his descriptions I see Ortega more like dis (S. M. Quezada):

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjyiRz_t_rOiZP0HuNSJmlvj_9MuNMkEfxOct-Bp3HAqJXphT1)
I thought Ortega was supposed to be a conquistador.  I think Bratt looks closer to that than Quezada.

How about Danny Trejo as the Red King?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on June 10, 2015, 08:54:45 PM
I'm still sticking with Javier Bardem as Ortega. That guy is menacing as hell. And ironically looks older than Penelope Cruz, whom I cast as Ariana.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 10, 2015, 10:33:30 PM
I'm still sticking with Javier Bardem as Ortega. That guy is menacing as hell. And ironically looks older than Penelope Cruz, whom I cast as Ariana.
I'd be down with Bardem, but not Cruz.  Arianna has always been a little more... arrogant and assuming then I've ever seen Cruz do well.  More like Zeta-Jones.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on June 11, 2015, 06:00:30 AM
I thought Ortega was supposed to be a conquistador.  I think Bratt looks closer to that than Quezada.

How about Danny Trejo as the Red King?

Wayull...the Arabs (Banu Umayya through the Almohadins) ruled Spain for about 800 years.  Which almost certainly means their contribution to Spaniard genotype (and hence phenotype) was probably disproportionate to their numbers.  This was certainly the case with Sicily before the Crusaders conquered Palermo, and the heritage is apparent in many Sicilians to this day.  A Conquistador with darker phenotype is by no means improbable.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on June 25, 2015, 08:17:48 PM
I watched the first half-episode of that murder on a spaceship miniseries, Ascension (it's awful, don't bother, I looked it up to see if it improves, it gets worse), and a thought occurred to me:

... Is Tricia Helfer a too-on-the-nose choice for the Shadow of Lasciel / Lash?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 25, 2015, 08:50:06 PM
I watched the first half-episode of that murder on a spaceship miniseries, Ascension (it's awful, don't bother, I looked it up to see if it improves, it gets worse), and a thought occurred to me:

... Is Tricia Helfer a too-on-the-nose choice for the Shadow of Lasciel / Lash?
Hmmm... maaaaybe.  I had her pegged as a cameo sidhe (ie not any of the main ones) myself. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on July 07, 2015, 01:15:55 PM
Christopher Walz as Donar Vaderrung.

Michael Madsen as Carmichael.

Mads Mikkelsen as Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 08, 2015, 02:16:07 AM
Christopher Walz as Donar Vaderrung.

Michael Madsen as Carmichael.

Mads Mikkelsen as Marcone.
Waltz is probably too small for Vadderung.  He's supposed to be taller than 6'9" Harry.  Waltz is 5'7". 

And I know people live to point to LotR for proof that size doesn't matter, but it really does.  Nothing short of LotR has LotR's budget.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on July 08, 2015, 01:18:38 PM
Waltz is probably too small for Vadderung.  He's supposed to be taller than 6'9" Harry.  Waltz is 5'7". 
Agreed, and he's supposed to have a (american) Football player's build, which to me says broad barrel chest and overall stout build.  Would well in the role, but would need to hit the Roids hard, more or less like Tom Hardy as Bane.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Xeromem on July 12, 2015, 01:35:45 AM
Okay, I keep going over it and over it ... and I'm sure I'll change my mind more and more, but ... here's my list as of today...

Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden   ...Billy Burke
Bob the Skull...(If we can’t get Jim Butcher to do it) James Marsters
Karrin Murphy...Katee Sackhoff
Michael Carpenter...Dunno.  Still thinking about this one   
Charity Carpenter   Elizabeth Mitchell
Molly Carpenter... Thought I had her, but .... I might agree with Miley Cyrus
Susan Rodriguez...Jessica Alba
The Leannsidhe...Rebecca Romijin
Mab, Queen of Air and Darkness...Helena Bonham Carter
Waldo Butters...DJ Qualls
Douglas Morgan...Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson
Ebenezer McCoy...Fred Dalton Thomas
Thomas Raith...Thomas Bomer
Lara Raith...Haven't figured her out, but I'd like an actual porn star
Bianca...Angelina Jolie
John Marcone...Eric Roberts
Hendricks...Considered Dolph Lungren, but just not right.
Sonya...Michael Dorn
Arthur Langtry...Gary Oldham
Old Capitan Luccio...Kate Mulgrew
Young Captain Luccio...Jennifer Morrison
Mac...Bruce Willis

I agree with most of this cast But I have to admit that the first thought I had at seeing the name Billy Burke as Harry was this Billie Burke which made me laugh.
 (http://www.mtv.com/movies/photos/f/favorite_witches_010611/glinda.jpg)

I always picture a young James Cromwell (yes I'm old enough to remember seeing James Cromwell at Harry's age).  First of all he's tall enough and he fits the description. To bad he's too old for the role now.   (http://mygeekblasphemy.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/murderbydeath9.jpeg)

As for Thomas Raith I picture either Tom Hiddleston or James Marsters.  Both could easily pull off the role.
For Michael Carpenter I think Liev Schreiber would be a good pick.
Dolf Lundgren is a good choice for Hendricks but I can just as easily picture him as Kincaid AKA Hellhound.
I think that Angelina Jolie would make a better Lara Raith than Bianca in my opinion
And as for Bianca I'd say she should be the one played by an actual porn star.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Big Bad John on July 14, 2015, 04:16:55 PM
Why is it that I all of a sudden see Brock Lesnar as Hendricks?

Jackie Earle Haley (Rorschach from Watchmen) would be a good Morgan.

I think Katee Sackhoff is too tall for Murphy. Hayden Panettiere, Kristen Bell, or Elisha Cuthbert would all work better, IMO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 14, 2015, 04:40:32 PM
Why is it that I all of a sudden see Brock Lesnar as Hendricks?
He's been John Cena in my head for a very long time.
(http://www.johncena4u.com/chain-gang/2007/09/john-cena70.jpg)

Along with Marcone
(http://media.blogapuntate.it/i/i-p/i-personaggi-di-heroes-nathan-petrelli/adrian1_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on July 14, 2015, 04:51:48 PM
... YES. Pasdar would be a great Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Big Bad John on July 14, 2015, 05:11:38 PM
Yeah, Pasdar would make a really good Marcone. I like Lesnar over Cena just on pure bulk / neck size.  ::)

Edit: Oh, and Gwendolyn Christie as Gard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on July 24, 2015, 01:19:12 PM
After watching some Death in Paradise on the 'Flix, I'd like to recommend Ben Miller for Chandler.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on July 24, 2015, 01:21:32 PM
I want David Tennant in there somewhere for no rational reason.  Im thinking Tilly if nothing better comes to mind. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 24, 2015, 07:35:24 PM
After watching some Death in Paradise on the 'Flix, I'd like to recommend Ben Miller for Chandler.
I feel like Ben Miller would make a better Peabody.

Chandler has always been Colin Salmon in my head.

I want David Tennant in there somewhere for no rational reason.  Im thinking Tilly if nothing better comes to mind. 
Ugh, his American accent is horrible.  Better to cast him as... Grevane. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on July 25, 2015, 04:05:01 PM
Chandler has always been Colin Salmon in my head.
Ugh, his American accent is horrible.  Better to cast him as... Grevane.
Oooh, Ok good call, I could get being him being that kind of vindictive villain. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: ITheHellAmFan on July 27, 2015, 03:09:09 PM
Oooh, Ok good call, I could get being him being that kind of vindictive villain. 
Especially if he does well as the Purple Man in Jessica Jones.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on July 27, 2015, 04:21:27 PM
Especially if he does well as the Purple Man in Jessica Jones.
Id forgotten about that.  Im excited again
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Big Bad John on July 27, 2015, 08:07:47 PM
I think Tennant might be better as Steed, no? He would be good for Grevane, however.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on July 27, 2015, 10:02:31 PM
I have Steed in my head as a more "proper" British Gentleman, like the original Steed from the Avengers (not the marvel version).  Currently it's either Colin Firth or James D'Arcy in my mind. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on July 27, 2015, 11:24:02 PM
I agree, Quantus. I am not sure what age Steed is supposed to be. Another option for me is Matthew Macfadyen,
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 27, 2015, 11:59:26 PM
C'mon, no-one else is feeling Colin Salmon for Chandler/Steed?

(http://www.danielcraigisnotbond.com/images/ColinSalmon.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on July 28, 2015, 12:18:54 AM
Well, he could work, as Morgan worked very well in the tv show, but it was not my first idea because I always "saw" something very "Steed-like" in my mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: ravenhost on July 28, 2015, 12:21:38 AM
Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden   Robert Downy jr
Bob the Skull…Jim Butcher
Karrin Murphy...Claire Danes
Michael Carpenter… Bradley Cooper
Charity Carpenter... Lucy Lawless
Molly Carpenter... Mary Elizabeth Winstead or Emma Stone
Susan Rodriguez...Zoe Saldana
The Leannsidhe...Nicole Kidman
Mab.., Evangeline Lilly
Waldo Butters...Stanley Tucci
Donald Morgan..John Rhys-Davies
Ebenezer McCoy...Robert Duvall
Thomas Raith...Jonathan Rhys Meyers
Lara Raith…Monica Bellucci
John Marcone...Ralph Fiennes
Hendricks...Dave Bautista
Sonya...Djimon Hounsou
Arthur Langtry...Ian McKellen
Old Capitan Luccio...Maggie Smith
Young Captain Luccio...Mila Kunis
Mac...Robert Carlyle
Kincade... Michael fassbender
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: JasonR77 on July 29, 2015, 12:39:56 AM
No Idris Elba for Erlking?
(http://www.greatnewmovies.com/wp-content/uploads/Idris-Elba-to-Reprise-as-Heimdall-in-Thor-2.jpg)

Dorn would make a better Rawlins, and Hudsdon could Stallings.

I was thinking Elba for Sanya, actually.

Twenty years ago, Bruce Campbell I think would have been a great Harry, esp. with the solid, defined chin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 29, 2015, 03:05:46 AM
I was thinking Elba for Sanya, actually.

Twenty years ago, Bruce Campbell I think would have been a great Harry, esp. with the solid, defined chin.
I tend to picture Sanya as younger.  Maybe thirties.  Elba is already 42.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Zohak on July 29, 2015, 03:59:47 AM
Triple H would make a great Hendricks  and he
can do the suit thing.

http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/grantgtriplehb164011-1422787235-2328438.jpg

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on July 29, 2015, 12:31:29 PM
Sanya was and always will be a young Michael Duncan Clarke.  Especially in changes where they highlighted just how intimidatingly huge he is. 

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on August 31, 2015, 07:00:42 AM
C'mon, no-one else is feeling Colin Salmon for Chandler/Steed?

(http://www.danielcraigisnotbond.com/images/ColinSalmon.jpg)

I'd vote for 'im...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Zohak on September 02, 2015, 04:16:00 AM
Found another possible for Marcone

Rob Stewart
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0829767/?ref_=tt_cl_t5

http://www.scifimix.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Cue-the-ominous-music-and-blue-haired-chick.png
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: ShadowX81 on October 06, 2015, 03:26:31 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/ShadowXCN/citywallpaperhd.com-118%203.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ShadowXCN/media/citywallpaperhd.com-118%203.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on October 06, 2015, 03:29:26 AM
I like most of them but who is Harry? I don't think I know him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: ShadowX81 on October 06, 2015, 03:21:06 PM
Lucas Bryant. The star of "Haven" on syfy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on October 06, 2015, 07:06:56 PM
Ah no, he is too pretty for Harry (IMHO). I like the other Haven actor for Harry, though. Always did.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 06, 2015, 08:13:22 PM
Ah no, he is too pretty for Harry (IMHO). I like the other Haven actor for Harry, though. Always did.
Eric Baldur has the face and height, but not the lankiness.  He's got broad shoulders, so even if he lost the muscle, he'd look too big for Harry.  And that's coming from me, who had him as Harry in the signatures I did.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on October 06, 2015, 10:51:20 PM
I remember and I still think he is a better choice (For the record, I still think Blackthorne is perfect)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 10, 2015, 05:40:35 PM
I remember and I still think he is a better choice (For the record, I still think Blackthorne is perfect)
Balfour (mistyped previously) also does a great snark, which is necessary for Harry.  That's what Blackthorne had going for him.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/ShadowXCN/citywallpaperhd.com-118%203.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ShadowXCN/media/citywallpaperhd.com-118%203.jpg.html)
Here's one I made for Bryant a while back.  I agree that he has the tall, lean look that Harry needs.  With some stubble, he almost looks tough enough.  I always thought his eyes were a little soft. 
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Harry_Lucas-Bryant_zpsf942c4aa.jpg)

Then again, I've also recommended Zachary Levi.  He also has the tall lean look, and can snark a little better than Bryant.  But my concern with him is whether or not he can do the badass Harry.
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Zachary_Levi-Casual_Dresden.jpg)

I think Eric Balfour is still the best of the candidates available, even if he's got too much muscle.  And I think, if you cast him, then you have to cast Justin Hartley as Thomas.  They've got similar builds, but to me, their faces are similar enough to hint at a share relation (just need to dye that hair).  I've posted a shirtless pic of Hartley so that the ladies can yay or nay his Thomas-ness.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/fc/a7/a7/fca7a7189502e75d4e4a26c2f9d354d4.jpg)(http://media.melty.fr/article-1701515-ajust_930/justin-hartley-est-comme-a-son-habitude-torse.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on October 10, 2015, 05:45:40 PM
Perfect! I always loved Green Arrow. Ehmm...I mean, I am not totally convinced about his Thomasness. Do you have more evidence to analyze?  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on October 12, 2015, 02:23:34 PM
Eric Baldur has the face and height, but not the lankiness.  He's got broad shoulders, so even if he lost the muscle, he'd look too big for Harry.  And that's coming from me, who had him as Harry in the signatures I did.
Eh, I still think he's Close Enough on physical look.  I would be disappointed if Harry (late story harry anyway) where any lankier than him, and his Long horse-face helps with that illusion.  He's especially good if they Cast in the direction of Harry's self-image, rather than his base outward appearance, because Balfour is far from the traditional male image of beauty.  Also agreed that Justin Hartley would be a perfect Thomas to his Harry, he's the perfect Pretty-boy version, with enough similarity to easily be believable half-brothers.

What does it for me though is that he has the attitude perfectly: he's the light and snarky jerk that you can occasionally tell is just using that to hide a barely seen ocean of Boiling rage, from having to make too many hard Choices.  His cursed smuggler in Haven get's it dead on. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on October 13, 2015, 08:36:35 PM
Though I did not think much of True Detective season 2 on a script or direction level, it has good enough acting in it to convince me that Rachel McAdams could play Karrin Murphy and Vince Vaughn could play Johnny Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on October 13, 2015, 08:39:04 PM
I agree. I actually thought the same when watching True Detective.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on October 13, 2015, 08:47:55 PM
Though I did not think much of True Detective season 2 on a script or direction level, it has good enough acting in it to convince me that Rachel McAdams could play Karrin Murphy and Vince Vaughn could play Johnny Marcone.
I havent seen McAdams in much besides Sherlock Holmes, but my mind rejects Vince Vaughn playing any character that doesnt like to talk profusely and at great speed.  I used to think Ed Quinn would be perfect, back when Marcone was described with the physical appearance of a favorite uncle, with laugh lines and whatnot when he was "tanned and enthusiastic".  Now he is always the unsmiling "Tiger in Man's clothing", soul of a shark, etc.  and Adrian Pasdar is the one that always comes to mind.  However Ive started to think a good compromise of the two archetypes would be Neal McDonough.  He's softer around the edges than Pasdar, but better at the cold, reptilian stare that Marcone will need occasionally. 

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on October 14, 2015, 04:39:33 PM
I havent seen McAdams in much besides Sherlock Holmes, but my mind rejects Vince Vaughn playing any character that doesnt like to talk profusely and at great speed.  I used to think Ed Quinn would be perfect, back when Marcone was described with the physical appearance of a favorite uncle, with laugh lines and whatnot when he was "tanned and enthusiastic".  Now he is always the unsmiling "Tiger in Man's clothing", soul of a shark, etc.  and Adrian Pasdar is the one that always comes to mind.  However Ive started to think a good compromise of the two archetypes would be Neal McDonough.  He's softer around the edges than Pasdar, but better at the cold, reptilian stare that Marcone will need occasionally.

In an ideal world where one could sample actors from any point in their career, I'd still vote for Christopher Walken for Marcone, he can do both of those really well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on October 14, 2015, 09:47:09 PM
In an ideal world where one could sample actors from any point in their career, I'd still vote for Christopher Walken for Marcone, he can do both of those really well.
Oh, yes he'd be awesome.  For that matter I'm still willig to say that Nathan Fillion would have been a perfect Harry if they'd kicked off Storm Front in his Firefly era.  If he kept some of his castle weight off, he'd have matured perfectly with Harry. 

But then we'd still be able to have have Michael Duncan Clarke for Sanya and Mako for Shiro... :'(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on October 25, 2015, 06:49:41 AM
Been watching Breaking Bad lately, so I'd like to throw in Bryan Cranston as Victor Sells or Dean Norris as Carmichael.

Also finished up The Wire, and think Dominic West would have been a great Harry ten years ago. Lance Reddick as Sanya, and Sonja Sohn as Tera West.

Michelle Gomez as the Mothers (rounding out my Fairy Queen dream cast with Robin Wright as the Queens and Tatiana Maslany as the Ladies).

And so naturally I can't believe it hasn't come up, Erick Avari as Rashid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Tami Seven on October 25, 2015, 01:22:38 PM
(http://sev.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/09/54ed91c90d7c9_-_sev-celeb-sibblings-11-lgn.jpg)

Was thinking it might be interesting to give the roles of harry and Thomas to real-life sibling actors, if the right ones were found. This image is from an article on the Efron Brothers, as examples.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on October 28, 2015, 02:18:00 AM
Paul Blackthorne as Malcolm Dresden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on October 28, 2015, 01:42:20 PM
Paul Blackthorne as Malcolm Dresden.
Seconded. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on October 28, 2015, 02:24:51 PM
Nope. He is Harry.
Also, someone remembers if Malcolm is as tall as Harry?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on October 28, 2015, 02:45:47 PM
Nope. He is Harry.
Also, someone remembers if Malcolm is as tall as Harry?
Well, sure, but then these days Barry Allen's dad was once Barry Allen himself, and Supergirl's dad was once Superman.  It's proven to give nerd-ans an easy thrill without having to work too hard plot-wise.  Nerd-fans loves us some cameo's  ;D 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: ShadowX81 on November 15, 2015, 10:22:27 PM
Anyone ever suggested Christopher Gorham for Harry?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/ShadowXCN/image.jpg1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ShadowXCN/media/image.jpg1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on November 16, 2015, 03:23:32 PM
Anyone ever suggested Christopher Gorham for Harry?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/ShadowXCN/image.jpg1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ShadowXCN/media/image.jpg1.jpg.html)
Id take him over the Supernatural kid everybody likes to suggest.  I have doubts that he could pull off the Terrifying dark god of Chaos and Structure Fires, in terms of acting range.  He's done occasional decent acting in what Ive seen of his work, though fwiw he is absolutely terrible at pretending to be blind. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: wizard nelson on November 16, 2015, 04:43:48 PM
Id take him over the Supernatural kid everybody likes to suggest.  I have doubts that he could pull off the Terrifying dark god of Chaos and Structure Fires, in terms of acting range.  He's done occasional decent acting in what Ive seen of his work, though fwiw he is absolutely terrible at pretending to be blind.
jared padelacki?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on November 16, 2015, 04:46:14 PM
jared padelacki?
Thats the guy.  I long thought he was one of the crappier elements of the show, and I can never remember how to spell his name. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: wizard nelson on November 16, 2015, 05:33:07 PM
Thats the guy.  I long thought he was one of the crappier elements of the show, and I can never remember how to spell his name.
Lol, I'm not sure I did it right either. I like sam's character though I mean who doesn't like the guy
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Funny you should mention that though, I'd never heard of him as Dresden... But looking at the cover of changes zoomed in as a wallpaper I thought to myself "he looks like sam there." Lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 16, 2015, 05:44:29 PM
Padalecki (and I don't like him for Harry at all)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: wizard nelson on November 17, 2015, 02:33:32 PM
Padalecki (and I don't like him for Harry at all)
Ahhh prejudice. His looks are spot on but from his role in Supernatural I couldnt quite see him playing Harry. Which doesnt mean he couldnt, i just dont see it.... Now MM Harry on the other hand might be simular to His lucifer personae.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on November 17, 2015, 04:01:09 PM
Ahhh prejudice. His looks are spot on but from his role in Supernatural I couldnt quite see him playing Harry. Which doesnt mean he couldnt, i just dont see it.... Now MM Harry on the other hand might be simular to His lucifer personae.
Eh, I mostly just thought he was a bad actor, and the middle seasons when he was so obviously working with a vocal coach to lower his speaking voice were just painful. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 17, 2015, 06:19:44 PM
Ahhh prejudice. His looks are spot on but from his role in Supernatural I couldnt quite see him playing Harry. Which doesnt mean he couldnt, i just dont see it.... Now MM Harry on the other hand might be simular to His lucifer personae.
Prejudice? It's not. He doesn't look like Harry! He is too muscular and...broad. I accept tall is spot on but for me Harry looks like Blackthorne or something like that, Jared has the face of a good kid. I remember once I found an Argentine actor who looked just like the Harry in my mind but now I don't remember who he was. I'll try to find him but I don't know if it is in this thread.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on November 17, 2015, 06:23:48 PM
Prejudice? It's not. He doesn't look like Harry! He is too muscular and...broad. I accept tall is spot on but for me Harry looks like Blackthorne or something like that, Jared has the face of a good kid. I remember once I found an Argentine actor who looked just like the Harry in my mind but now I don't remember who he was. I'll try to find him but I don't know if it is in this thread.
That's part of it for me too: he has an unfortunate case of baby-face.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: wizard nelson on November 19, 2015, 03:50:18 PM
Prejudice? It's not. He doesn't look like Harry! He is too muscular and...broad. I accept tall is spot on but for me Harry looks like Blackthorne or something like that, Jared has the face of a good kid. I remember once I found an Argentine actor who looked just like the Harry in my mind but now I don't remember who he was. I'll try to find him but I don't know if it is in this thread.
Ahhh Harry dose start to gain those descriptive features as the DF moves along though?
Quote from: Prejudice
an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
Idk it tends to qualify under the first part. people just get all in a huff if you use that word I think, though admittedly its not done without though or reason here.
I genuinely disagree about the baby face being a problem. especially for a wizard who is not actually aging like a normal person. But I don't think he has a good kid face anymore than I do lol. which ya, I'm twenty eight, people think I should be about twenty. But that doesn't mean that baby face is the face of a saint lol. He did good for me as lucifer anyway. I can get why he's not the most popular person for Dresden... but that I'd directly attribute to prejudice, cause without SN, No knowledge equals no reason not to like him. So something was seen or felt from previous experiances to make you feel he's not up to snuff?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 19, 2015, 06:17:58 PM
Again, it's not a prejudice. I am not saying he is a bad actor or anything. I liked him since he was "Dean" in Gilmore Gilrs. He just doesn´t look that the Harry in my mind. I am not saying he has a baby face. Young is ok for a wizard. I am saying he looks like a good kid. And Harry shouldn´t. 
And I didn't get the impression Harry is becoming "wider" but all the opposite, I thought he looked very slender. Muscular yes, because he runs, do parkour and all that.
So, stop saying that without SN there is no reason not to like him. We are telling you our reasons, he doesn't look like the Harry we imagine. Of course you are free to disagree with that and think he is a very good choice. That is ok, we all have different ideas of Harry, after all. But it is not ok that you insisted in accuse people of prejudiced when you yourself accepted we have reasons here.
For me, the only thing "in favor" of him as Harry is his height. I don't believe that is enough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: wizard nelson on November 19, 2015, 07:37:51 PM
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And I didn't get the impression Harry is becoming "wider" but all the opposite, I thought he looked very slender. Muscular yes, because he runs, do parkour and all that.
the weightlifting seemed to make him a bit wider... I guess I could be contributing that to perspective.
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So, stop saying that without SN there is no reason not to like him. We are telling you our reasons, he doesn't look like the Harry we imagine. Of course you are free to disagree with that and think he is a very good choice. That is ok, we all have different ideas of Harry, after all. But it is not ok that you insisted in accuse people of prejudiced when you yourself accepted we have reasons here.
Whoa there cowgirl, hold on. I meant no offence or slight upon your opinion. Sorry if you feel prejudice is too strong of a word. I was using it in a slightly more narrow definition than prejudice against the actor himself. but at the idea of him playing Dresden... which you do admittedly disagree with? You might say, I'm prejudice towards Jared as Dresden, because I like him as Sam(had no idea about the gilmore girls thing...)
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For me, the only thing "in favor" of him as Harry is his height. I don't believe that is enough.
I like him for the wild hair that I imagine SK Harry had, add a beard and loose a bit of weight and he'd have a good emaciated look, specifically because of his usually rounder face. His acting chops are either or, He might pull it off, He might not. I'd still like to see the screen audition...
*and as I mentioned above, and do swear by, literally the night before looking in on this thread I looked at my CH wallpaper and thought he looked like sam in that shot.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 19, 2015, 08:07:51 PM
Then I am probably misunderstanding you, sorry about that but you really sounded offensive to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: wizard nelson on November 19, 2015, 08:16:31 PM
Then I am probably misunderstanding you, sorry about that but you really sounded offensive to me.
oops? I'm not sure how excepting the possibility that word was keyed on in correlation to other diverse definitions, some of which were found to be offensive to be considered prejudice?
Sorry...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 19, 2015, 11:55:23 PM
It's all right, sorry I am so touchy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: jakmarcus on December 08, 2015, 03:26:45 AM
John Marcone = Armand Asante
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on December 08, 2015, 05:45:46 PM
John Marcone = Armand Asante
Nah, I would never buy that guy being anywhere near as physcially capable as Marcone is.  He's spot on for the Mob Boss scenes, but throwing a knife with one hand tied behind his back while hanging upsidedown over a Loup garou pit, to perfectly cut a rope so that it falls down directly in front of harry?  Chasing Fallen Angels on the top of a moving train?  No, for me Marcone needs to be on the younger side of middle aged in my book. 

My top votes these days are Adrian Pasdar for a grim version, or Ed Quinn for the laugh-line version described more in the earlier books, before Harry's descriptions were skewed by his Soul of a Tiger image
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Sibelis on December 11, 2015, 04:13:44 PM
Nah, I would never buy that guy being anywhere near as physcially capable as Marcone is.  He's spot on for the Mob Boss scenes, but throwing a knife with one hand tied behind his back while hanging upsidedown over a Loup garou pit, to perfectly cut a rope so that it falls down directly in front of harry?  Chasing Fallen Angels on the top of a moving train?  No, for me Marcone needs to be on the younger side of middle aged in my book. 

My top votes these days are Adrian Pasdar for a grim version, or Ed Quinn for the laugh-line version described more in the earlier books, before Harry's descriptions were skewed by his Soul of a Tiger image
Idk I guess he is getting old, but from the guy who played Odysseus I could see him as Marcone, just silver his hair and he looks similar enough. Perhaps a younger Armand...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on December 11, 2015, 04:30:04 PM
Idk I guess he is getting old, but from the guy who played Odysseus I could see him as Marcone, just silver his hair and he looks similar enough. Perhaps a younger Armand...
Perhaps... thought I always imagined Marcone having a tad more of an... I dunno, Ambiguous face?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Sibelis on December 11, 2015, 04:32:43 PM
Perhaps... thought I always imagined Marcone having a tad more of an... I dunno, Ambiguous face?
Uhh so Marcone should be played by a famous poker player?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on December 11, 2015, 04:59:49 PM
Uhh so Marcone should be played by a famous poker player?
No, though the stone faced LTW should.   It's just that Im stuck on the description from the very beginning, where he was stated to not resemble a typical Mob boss at all, he's a guy with deep laugh lines on his face, a twinkle in his eye, and an enthusiastic manner.  He was the guy that would smile and maybe apologize for the necessity, right before he ordered you shot in the face. 

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A man of handsome and unassuming features, dressed in a casual sports jacket and Levi's, regarded me with a smile. "And you would be?" I asked him.

His smile widened, and I swear it made his eyes twinkle.

Gentleman Johnny Marcone didn't look like the sort of man who would have my legs broken or my jaw wired shut. His salt-and-pepper hair was cut short, and there were lines from sun and smiling etched into the corners of his eyes. His eyes were the green of well-worn dollar bills. He seemed more like a college football coach: good-looking, tanned, athletic, and enthusiastic. The impression was reinforced by the men he kept with him. Cujo Hendricks hulked like an all-pro player who had been ousted for extreme unnecessary roughness.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Sibelis on December 11, 2015, 05:14:20 PM
No, though the stone faced LTW should.   It's just that Im stuck on the description from the very beginning, where he was stated to not resemble a typical Mob boss at all, he's a guy with deep laugh lines on his face, a twinkle in his eye, and an enthusiastic manner.  He was the guy that would smile and maybe apologize for the necessity, right before he ordered you shot in the face.
Ahh how about couch yost from remember the Titans then? I could see it quite well with that description lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on December 11, 2015, 05:18:50 PM
Ahh how about couch yost from remember the Titans then? I could see it quite well with that description lol.
Yes, actually!  Ive seen that actor straddle the good and bad line a time or to, and he can do it well. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Sibelis on December 11, 2015, 05:21:50 PM
Yes, actually!  Ive seen that actor straddle the good and bad line a time or to, and he can do it well.
Ha! Yea, I'd forgotten about anything else he did, but you mentioning his bad guy roles gave me a good mental image from, some movie I can't remember... He wasn't the 2nd in command guy in the punisher with Tom Jane was he? I think that was it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: mebeksis on December 15, 2015, 09:32:13 PM
If nathan fillion for harry, we gotta have a certain baldwin for kincaid...just cuz
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on December 15, 2015, 09:38:13 PM
If nathan fillion for harry, we gotta have a certain baldwin for kincaid...just cuz
Firefly era Nathan Fillion, certainly.  Castle era....?  :-\ 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on December 15, 2015, 09:46:56 PM
If nathan fillion for harry, we gotta have a certain baldwin for kincaid...just cuz
We casted the Fillion files a while back.  Let's see if we can find the post...

Edit: found it!  Extensive casting for the Fillion Files.
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.msg1241120.html#msg1241120
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.msg1241205.html#msg1241205
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on December 16, 2015, 12:52:14 AM
Yes. I remember that. So good  :)

Adam Baldwin as Kinkaid is a good idea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on December 27, 2015, 11:04:16 PM
Well I just saw Star Wars.

Oscar Isaacs for Ramirez, please.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Denarian on December 28, 2015, 08:22:55 AM
I don’t see his appearance lining up, but oh god, his attitude is perfect.

Also after millions of years of searching I have at long last found the perfect casting for my all-time favourite character, Waldo Butters:
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Yes, it’s friggin’ Danny Sexbang.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: jakmarcus on December 28, 2015, 08:28:26 PM
What about David Giuntoli.  Could he fit into this?  There are a couple of great actors from Grimm.  Sasha Roiz is crazy tall...could be Harry or Silas Weir Mitchell is just funny.  Would be a good stand in for somebody...Butters maybe?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on December 28, 2015, 11:29:10 PM
Yes, I would like to include any of this in the casting. I also had suggested Juliette for a fae. Lastly I was thinking that Trubel could be a good Anna Valmont-
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on January 04, 2016, 04:10:54 PM
Ha! Yea, I'd forgotten about anything else he did, but you mentioning his bad guy roles gave me a good mental image from, some movie I can't remember... He wasn't the 2nd in command guy in the punisher with Tom Jane was he? I think that was it.
He was indeed, though after looking at his credits I believe I was originally thinking of his role as the primary antagonist of The Postman with Kevin Costner
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Sibelis on January 04, 2016, 06:18:37 PM
He was indeed, though after looking at his credits I believe I was originally thinking of his role as the primary antagonist of The Postman with Kevin Costner
haha, forgot that one too, and I was just thinking about that movie yesterday... couldn't remember the face, but the scene 'where you gotta be one of us to challenge for authority' was stuck in my head.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Phariah on January 05, 2016, 02:37:36 AM
Emily Rose would be a perfect Murphy imho.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 05, 2016, 04:02:20 AM
Emily Rose would be a perfect Murphy imho.
Now that she and the cast of Haven are free, she might be available.  Although I'll admit, my mild excitement about the potential new series has waned with almost two years passing with no further progress mentioned publicly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on January 12, 2016, 03:18:38 AM
What do you think of this Susan? She is Turkish but could be dubbed. Her name is Cansu Dere, in case you want to see more pictures-

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2525616384/nm1754048?ref_=nmmd_md_nxt (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2525616384/nm1754048?ref_=nmmd_md_nxt)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 12, 2016, 04:07:38 AM
What do you think of this Susan? She is Turkish but could be dubbed. Her name is Cansu Dere, in case you want to see more pictures-

(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2525616384/nm1754048?ref_=nmmd_md_nxt)
I'm partial to Sofia Pernas, personally. 

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d0/ab/d6/d0abd6abc71e9f93171abea03962a3e9.jpg)


Although I wouldn't be opposed to casting Cansu Dere as someone.  She could probably pull off Spanish, so Bianca/Arianna/Esmerelda is possible, or even a Raith like Madeline.  But honestly, looking at her, I've got this strange inclination to cake a lot of makeup onto her and make her unrecognizable as Mavra.  I don't know why.     :-[
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on January 12, 2016, 04:17:50 AM
Well, she looks somewhat evil  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Me Grimlock King on January 15, 2016, 05:34:05 PM
I'm sure it's been mentioned here, but I saw in another post Lee Pace for Harry (He's 6'5"), I think he would be perfect. 

Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden....Lee pace
Bob the Skull…James Marsters
Karrin Murphy...Allison Mack/or Maria Bello depend on age
Michael Carpenter… A young Liam Neeson
Charity Carpenter... Tricia Helfer
Molly Carpenter... Missy Peregrym, or Chloe Moretz if a younger molly
Susan Rodriguez...Genesis Rodriguez
The Leannsidhe...Blake Lively
Mab..,Kate Beckinsale
Waldo Butters...Jay Baruchel
Donald Morgan...Jefrey Dean Morgan
Ebenezer McCoy...Sean Bean
Thomas Raith...Matt Bomer
Lara Raith…I always picture Matrix Era Monical Belluci, can't help it
John Marcone...John hamm
Hendricks...Hafthór Júlíus Björnsson
Sonya...Idris Elba
Arthur Langtry...Hugh Laurie
Mac...Arnold Vosloo
Kincaid... Nikolaj Coster-Waldau
Ramirez...Oscar Isaacs
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on January 16, 2016, 06:09:22 AM
Pace is too gentle for Harry. I could buy Thomas maybe.

The late Alan Rickman would have been an excellent Bob.

If we're shooting for Storm Front Dresden, dude who plays Rafael on Jane The Virgin would be an excellent Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: ladkins on March 08, 2016, 10:35:19 PM
I'm just going to weigh in on my pick for Harry in this post, but I think James Purefoy would make a great HD.  If you have seen the movie Solomon Kane you can't help but think... Hey, that is Harry Dresden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 09, 2016, 12:03:11 AM
I'm just going to weigh in on my pick for Harry in this post, but I think James Purefoy would make a great HD.  If you have seen the movie Solomon Kane you can't help but think... Hey, that is Harry Dresden.
Someone with a similar look that I think is a slightly better fit is Tom Ellis.  He's doing great on Lucifer.  He's a lean 6'3", and can pull off sardonic humor and whit necessary for a proper Harry Dresden.

(https://static-secure.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/9/13/1379067873749/Tom-Ellis-in-The-Lyons-008.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on March 21, 2016, 03:22:19 AM
Him I like. Definitely the right look for Dresden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: kat7 on March 24, 2016, 04:17:23 AM
I have a suggestion for Harry that I haven't been able to get OUT of my head, since it got IN: What about Jake Johnson (aka Nick on New Girl)?

(http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2013/03/16/jake-johnson-on-his-sxsw-comedy-drinking-buddies-new-girl-success/jcr:content/image.crop.800.500.jpg/45449795.cached.jpg)

He's 5'10" which I realize isn't ideal, but I would count on movie magic to fix that.  He's sarcastic, he's the quintessential everyman, and he's from Chicago!  So long as he can play a character a bit less goofy than Nick, I think he could be gold.

New Girl is odd for me now because I just see Harry when I watch.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on March 24, 2016, 04:31:44 AM
I have not seen him in anything, but that picture looks like Harry to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: kat7 on March 24, 2016, 04:52:36 AM
Doesn't he, though??  :)  Enough so to supplant my earlier pick, Josh Holloway.  Too model-esque, although based on LOST Holloway can definitely play a smart aleck.  :)

(http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/36400000/Josh-Holloway-PROMOTIONAL-PHOTOSHOOT-INTELLIGENCE-2014-josh-holloway-36445507-1634-2000.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 24, 2016, 05:15:59 AM
I have a suggestion for Harry that I haven't been able to get OUT of my head, since it got IN: What about Jake Johnson (aka Nick on New Girl)?

(http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2013/03/16/jake-johnson-on-his-sxsw-comedy-drinking-buddies-new-girl-success/jcr:content/image.crop.800.500.jpg/45449795.cached.jpg)

He's 5'10" which I realize isn't ideal, but I would count on movie magic to fix that.  He's sarcastic, he's the quintessential everyman, and he's from Chicago!  So long as he can play a character a bit less goofy than Nick, I think he could be gold.

New Girl is odd for me now because I just see Harry when I watch.  :)
Heh.  I thought he'd make a good Butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on July 24, 2016, 12:59:35 AM
So Ian McShane is slaying it at Mr. Wednesday in the American Gods trailer.

What do we think of him for Vaderrung?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on July 24, 2016, 01:00:49 AM
Not bad.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: wardenferry419 on August 02, 2016, 10:58:15 PM
So Ian McShane is slaying it at Mr. Wednesday in the American Gods trailer.

What do we think of him for Vaderrung?
I was thinking the guy that played Jeor Mormont from GoT.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on August 25, 2016, 04:35:00 PM
I was thinking the guy that played Jeor Mormont from GoT.
He feels too old to me for Vadderung, who's suppose to be lean and athletic in his early 50's.  Perfect for Kringle, though. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on August 25, 2016, 05:12:52 PM
I don't see your point. He is 55. and athletic enough. A touch of makeup and perfect. And he does have the look of a Nordic God. Nothing to do with Santa.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on August 25, 2016, 05:48:50 PM
I don't see your point. He is 55. and athletic enough. A touch of makeup and perfect. And he does have the look of a Nordic God. Nothing to do with Santa.
I think you're thinking of the guy who played Jorah Mormont, aka Iain Glen.  He'd be perfect is all ways I can see, fits the lean & athletic build and the right norse-ness.  The guy playing Jeor is James Cosmo, he's 68, and would make a good sword-wielding Santa. There's a line in changes that described Vadderung as what Santa might have been like when he was "young and played football", which makes me think the Santa actor should be noticeably older than the Vadderung.  And I myself tend to think Vadderung shoudl look less...weathered than Cosmo


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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on August 25, 2016, 05:58:01 PM
You are correct. I remember both characters distinctly well, but I didn't remember the name of the older one (the one who gave Claw to Jon Snow). The Mormonts are the best! But I didn't remember he was called Jeor, so I assumed that wardenferry post meant Jorah and that Jeor was a nickname, like Ned to Eddard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: wardenferry419 on August 27, 2016, 11:15:30 AM
I was thinking of olde one. But this way works too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: joshuakimba on August 27, 2016, 10:14:01 PM
Some of those choices are pretty freaking awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: wardenferry419 on August 27, 2016, 10:22:07 PM
Michael Phelps as Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on August 30, 2016, 07:40:28 PM
Michael Phelps as Harry.
I laugh, but from a purely physical stance it might actually work...  :o

At 6'4" he's tall enough, beanpole lanky and angular and not really what anyone would call classically handsome.  Can he act, I wonder...?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: EBRIEN on September 04, 2016, 03:20:39 AM
Charlize Theron as Mab

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31400000/-Queen-Ravenna-queen-ravenna-31454736-1000-738.jpg (http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31400000/-Queen-Ravenna-queen-ravenna-31454736-1000-738.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Ananda on November 30, 2016, 11:24:35 PM
I was watching a The Cure concert from 2016 this weekend and Robert Smith looked perfect for the Mother Winter role. :). Sorry, Robert, I love your old music, but you're perfect for the role.
(https://lithiumlollipop.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/robert-smith-cure.jpg)
https://youtu.be/NRA55OmxGv0
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Chiana on December 02, 2016, 06:30:47 PM
What about David Walton for Harry?  He's got good height at 6'4".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on December 02, 2016, 06:59:13 PM
I thinks Ive settled on Michael Fassbender as older Harry (with Matt Bomer as Thomas) and Eric Balfour for a more SF age Harry with Reeve Carney playing Thomas.  Reeve was Dorian Grey on Penny Dreadful if you've seen it, and I think he'd fit the various tones of Thomas nicely as looking like he might be the much prettier brother of Balfour.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: KipIngram on December 15, 2016, 02:26:45 PM
Oh dear - this has been a topic my wife and I have discussed endlessly.  We've never hit on anyone we consider fully satisfactory for Harry himself.  I guess my "favorite" castings are:

Katee Sackhoff - Murphy
Isaak Sirko - Marcone
Liam Neeson - Michael (I literally hear his voice when reading Michael lines)

When I read some of the descriptions of Lara in action, I find myself imagining Angelina Jolie in Lara Croft mode; there's more similarity there than just the name.

The wife and I have discussed many, many castings for various characters, but those three I itemized above are the ones that really resonate for me.  Most of the others I'm able to envision numerous performers taking on.

Speaking of this general topic, I read not long ago that all the big movie studios are hungry for "franchises" - it's the new big thing.  Well, what the heck?  Here's the perfect franchise, all laid out and ready to go, right under their noses.  Come on, Hollywood!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on December 19, 2016, 06:08:02 PM
Sackhoff has a good 6" on Murphy.

Jaime Camil as the male Eeb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: GeSar on December 20, 2016, 04:35:39 PM
If you can look at Aly Michalka and not think Molly, you're reading different books than I am.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=aly+michalka&espv=2&biw=1309&bih=700&site=webhp&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRoNOsmYPRAhUBwYMKHSPyB0AQ_AUIBigB  (https://www.google.ca/search?q=aly+michalka&espv=2&biw=1309&bih=700&site=webhp&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRoNOsmYPRAhUBwYMKHSPyB0AQ_AUIBigB)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: KipIngram on December 21, 2016, 12:27:54 PM
Ah, yeah - Aly Michalka works as Molly for sure.  I've just felt, though, that there are probably lots of gals that would work as Molly.  Only a few of the characters seem to have "obvious" castings to me.  Jared Padalecki as Harry had crossed my mind before - it could work, though I also have him firmly in the Sam Winchester box.  But he's a great actor as far as I can tell - even within the Supernatural context he's played variety because of the things that have gone on with his character, and he smashed 'em out of the park.  I've also considered Jim Caviezel for Harry.  Not quite tall enough, but taller than average at least.

For me Liam Neeson is Michael - case closed.  I can't read Michael parts without picturing him or someone thoroughly similar to him.  And yeah, Daniel Craig fits Nicodemus quite well for me.

Who's down for Charlize Theron as Mab?  And how about Michael Emerson as Butters?

Cheers,
Kip
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on December 21, 2016, 01:17:48 PM
Just tossing this out there, but I think I could get behind marilyn manson's dad for Nicodemus :-P 

There's something about that guy...

(http://i.amz.mshcdn.com/iKXDmncgfl-qA2GER_akD92LLtM=/fit-in/1200x9600/http%3A%2F%2Fmashable.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F03%2Fmarilyndad2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: KipIngram on December 21, 2016, 01:24:28 PM
Quantus: Oh, hey - just saw that you beat me to Theron as Mab.  Cool pic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: KipIngram on December 21, 2016, 03:09:09 PM
How about Marcia Cross as Lea?

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/marcia-cross-marcia-cross-291776_398_402.jpg

Cheers,
Kip
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on December 21, 2016, 04:25:09 PM
How about Marcia Cross as Lea?

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/marcia-cross-marcia-cross-291776_398_402.jpg

Cheers,
Kip
She's got the eyes that are hard to trust.  My votes are usually Melinda Clark or Christina Hendricks.  But whomever it is has to be able to play Batshit crazy properly.  Truth is I really see Lea as a 70's era Maureen O'Hara (Big Jake Vintage), so whomever is closest to that in modern times.  Needs to be a believable if not necessarily natural redhead, with the proper amount of Resting Bitch Face  :P
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: KipIngram on December 21, 2016, 04:37:17 PM
Yeah, I could go with Christina Hendricks too.  I thoroughly lusted after her on Mad Men.  :-)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: KipIngram on December 22, 2016, 01:51:56 AM
Has anyone suggested Dianna Agron for Molly?

https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6xxy6yLUX1rq73i4o1_500.png (https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6xxy6yLUX1rq73i4o1_500.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on December 22, 2016, 12:47:12 PM
Has anyone suggested Dianna Agron for Molly?

https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6xxy6yLUX1rq73i4o1_500.png (https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6xxy6yLUX1rq73i4o1_500.png)
Not that I remember, but that's a great one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Me Grimlock King on December 22, 2016, 01:47:23 PM
I know this is an old thread, and its hard to look through 49 pages worth of posts.  But to me Dean Winchester (Jensen Ackles) is basically Harry Dresden (at least in the first couple of seasons, except he's a lot smoother with the ladies).  he's got the snark on lockdown, if you could combine his snark with Padaleckis height and awkwardness, I think that would be the perfect Harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Ananda on December 22, 2016, 03:57:44 PM
I think the Kirlian Camera band members are perfect for Nic, Deirdre and a random denarian in this video. Even the lyrics work for it. (they are italian, so english is not a strong suit) They are just spending a lovely afternoon considering how to save the world, obviously.
https://youtu.be/gYp92yFsnB4
Open the door to Satan
and now I'm feeling his knife on me,
on my skin.
He bought me roses,
like a gentleman he causes me a fire.
Euphoria calls my star.
Suddenly my skies are lost
a strong thunder's going across
every boundary with lies.
Someone took and kicked me out,
my nerves like sketches of light.
Close your rays to me.
I feel my own gloom
just on your mouth, into your heart
close my eyes.
But you locked up your white gate.
Satan was in front of my face
no flames around him
while his charm pushed me down.
Stratch my heart to the ground,
drive me to your desire.
I'm like an angel without chains,
killer of straight delight.
In my bright house of despair
like a shadow I scream my rage.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: GeSar on December 23, 2016, 03:07:26 AM
Ah, yeah - Aly Michalka works as Molly for sure.  I've just felt, though, that there are probably lots of gals that would work as Molly.  Only a few of the characters seem to have "obvious" castings to me.  Jared Padalecki as Harry had crossed my mind before

I've thought of this before too, I think he could do great, but he might be too 'pretty' for it.   Though I sometimes think Harry is a pretty boy if we weren't reading everything from his POV.

Sadly, he and Aly are too close in age to cast them both!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on December 27, 2016, 02:58:57 PM
Ya, if I were to go in the general direction of Padaleki, I think I'd commit more fully and go with Eric Balfour.  He's less traditionally pretty, and his character on Haven might as well have been Harry, especially during the angry Lash years. 
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He's actually my general pick for Young Harry (SF era) whereas modern Harry is stuck with Michael Fassbender for me.  It's important to me that whomever gets Thomas is a believably "more pretty" sibling to Harry.  Fassbender gets Matt Bomer, Balfour gets Reeve Carney

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on December 27, 2016, 03:33:11 PM
I've always thought Balfour was a good choice. Dorian Gray is not a bad choice but I think Bomer is the perfect Thomas. Completely.
I don't approve Fassbender, too pretty for Harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on December 28, 2016, 12:45:03 AM
Just watched The OA. Aside from my questionable taste in fantasy, I thought Brit Marling could be a good Lea (red hair dye is a dime a dozen), and that Brandon Perea could be Carlos.

Also really want Jason Isaac in there somewhere. Marcone, maybe?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: KipIngram on December 29, 2016, 04:31:40 AM
I have a really hard time not getting fixated on Ray Stevenson for Marcone.  More or less precisely as he was presented as Isaak Sirko in Dexter.  Sans the Russian traits, of course.  Perfect combo of suave businessman and incredibly dangerous.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: GeSar on December 30, 2016, 06:31:29 PM
This is probably due to the tapes more than anything, but honestly I'd love to see James Marsters as Marconie.

Honestly the hardest part I have with harry is finding something that fits my view of disarmingly bungle, and terrifying powerful.   You kind of need someone that can pull of a clark kent/superman thing without ever changing custom.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Shadout on January 16, 2017, 03:12:10 AM
For what it's worth, here's a few of my thoughts on potential actors / actresses;

Harry Dresden - Billy Burke
Karrin Murphy - Katie Sackhoff
Donald Morgan - Clive Russell
Ebenezar McCoy - Michael Hogan
Susan Rodriguez - Jessica Paré
Thomas Raith - Glenn Howerton
Michael Carpenter - Timothy Olyphant
Molly Carpenter - Miley Cyrus
Bob (voice) - Charlie Day
John Marcone - Tom Sizemore
Leanansidhe - Lena Headey
The Archive (Ivy) - Millie Bobby Brown
Waldo Butters - Joe Lo Truglio
Jared Kincaid - Josh Holloway
Old Lucio - Jamie Lee Curtis
Young Lucio - Emma Roberts
Binder - Mark A. Sheppard
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on January 16, 2017, 03:42:07 AM
I agree or would be more or less ok with almost all of them, specially Ivy. But Thomas needs to be much prettier than that man, I insist Matt Bomer is the best option but if not  should be somebody on that level.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Shadout on January 16, 2017, 12:44:26 PM
I agree or would be more or less ok with almost all of them, specially Ivy. But Thomas needs to be much prettier than that man, I insist Matt Bomer is the best option but if not  should be somebody on that level.

He's pretty enough certainly, but for me it was a toss-up between Glenn Howerton and Taylor Kitsch purely because they can both have that little bit of arrogance about them - a sort of "Yeah, I know exactly how good I look" air about them.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on January 16, 2017, 01:07:33 PM
He's pretty enough certainly, but for me it was a toss-up between Glenn Howerton and Taylor Kitsch purely because they can both have that little bit of arrogance about them - a sort of "Yeah, I know exactly how good I look" air about them.
Kitsch is the better of those two, imo.  Clean shaven he had the pretty-boy thing going much better. 

Matt Bomer is my go-to as well, he has the same touch of arrogance but also the ability as an actor to look like he has lots of confidence that is all a mask.  That and his White Collar Character basically /was/ thomas, just with "vampire" replaced by "Con-man".  The problem is he's quickly getting too old for a Storm Front vintage Thomas where they'd likely need to cast the character, rather than the 15-ish years later that all my mental images are stuck at. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on January 16, 2017, 01:53:10 PM
Yes, that is true, but I'll keep him for now  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: stranger09 on January 20, 2017, 01:51:10 PM
Harry Dresden - James Purefoy (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0700856/)
Karrin Murphy - Katee Sackhoff
Michael Carpenter - Jeffrey-Dean Morgan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0604742/)
Charity Carpenter - Robin Wright (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000705/)
Molly Carpenter - Molly C. Quin (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0703939/)
Bob (voice) - Nick Frost
Ebenezar McCoy - James Caan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001001/)
Susan Rodriguez - Ella Thomas (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1724833)
Lord Raith - Thomas Jane
Thomas Raith - Jonathan Rhys Meyers (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001667/)
Lara Raith - Alexandra Daddario (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1275259/)
Nicodemus Archleone - Ulrich Thomsen, just watch Banshee. (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0860947)
Lasciel/Lash -  Amber Heard (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1720028/)
John Marcone - Owen Teale (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0853583/mediaviewer/rm743225344)
Hendricks - John C. McGinley (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001525)
Mab - Eva Green
Maeve - Nicola Peltz (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2443758)
Jared Kincaid - Kenny Johnson (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0425543)
Cowl - Sean Bean
Donald Morgan - Wes Chatham (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1434871/mediaviewer/rm326297088)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 25, 2017, 12:49:22 AM
Putting aside the age conflict for a series starting with SF...


Tom Ellis (6'3") and Lauren German (5'6") from Lucifer
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2c/49/08/2c49088f7489a52f26c625ddc1ab41a7.jpg)

(http://es.web.img2.acsta.net/r_640_600/b_1_d6d6d6/pictures/16/01/06/09/56/439712.jpg)

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/ffb715c2a5976111aa9dd5ed4da0714a/tumblr_o4v30lFtbk1ueunvwo1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on January 25, 2017, 01:40:19 PM
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I...Don't know what kind of Thing Im seeing   :o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on February 02, 2017, 11:25:59 PM
Sigourney Weaver as Luccio's original body.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on February 03, 2017, 12:56:28 PM
Sigourney Weaver as Luccio's original body.
I counter with Jane Lynch:

(http://static2.hypable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/glee-season-5-jane-lynch.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on February 03, 2017, 02:19:33 PM
My counter to your counter ....

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on February 03, 2017, 04:25:20 PM
That's cheating...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 04, 2017, 01:26:03 AM
 >:(  I'm trying to avoid using the words white and wash together. 

I'd say go Italian with Sophia Loren (82yo) or Monica Belluci (52yo).  Monica might be the better choice for the physical requirements (however limited they might be in original Luccio's appearance) of the fight scenes.  But how great would it be to work stars like Sophia Loren in with cameos? 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on February 04, 2017, 02:14:15 AM
I don't remember old Luccio physical description but they are some very blonde Italians.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 04, 2017, 03:05:09 AM
I don't remember old Luccio physical description but they are some very blonde Italians.
I believe she's supposed to have steel gray hair. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on February 04, 2017, 05:25:11 PM
I believe she's supposed to have steel gray hair.
Here it is:
Quote
The door opened and Warden Luccio came in. She was a solid old matriarch of a woman, as tall as most men and built like someone who did plenty of physical labor. Her hair was a solid shade of iron grey, cropped into a neat, military cut. She too wore a Warden's grey cloak, though she wore clothes suitable for hiking or camping beneath that: jeans, cotton, flannel, boots, all in muted tones of grey and brown. She too carried a staff and bore a sword at her side, though hers was a slender scimitar, light and elegant. Though not as worn as Morgan's, her gear also showed evidence of recent action.

The sentence in bold is what really makes me think Jane Lynch (who's 6'0").  She also does really well walking the line of harsh authority figure that you dont actually hate.  And I once heard a great director say he always tries to cast comedians in dramatic roles because comedy is harder so if they can do that they have the subtle and timing for drama.  She has that. 

Sofia Loren is just too far past the age at this point, too frail looking for the battle-matron:
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Ulfgeir on February 08, 2017, 08:16:12 PM
I think we have a good candidate for Mavra in the form of Kellyanne Conway... Sorry if that is too political.

(http://images.dailykos.com/images/323588/story_image/GettyImages-621088886.jpg?1478539231)

/Ulfgeir
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on February 08, 2017, 08:53:58 PM
I think we have a good candidate for Mavra in the form of Kellyanne Conway... Sorry if that is too political.

(http://images.dailykos.com/images/323588/story_image/GettyImages-621088886.jpg?1478539231)

/Ulfgeir
Speaking purely to facial structure she wouldnt be all that bad, Mavra needs to be on the skinny/skeletal side and prominent bone structure is a plus for that. 

Im currently leaning toward Eva Green.  Anyone that hasnt seen her on Penny Dreadful is missing out big-time
(http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/styd/assets/uploads/2014/06/eva-green-penny-dreadful.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 08, 2017, 09:13:15 PM
I think we have a good candidate for Mavra in the form of Kellyanne Conway... Sorry if that is too political.

/Ulfgeir
I don't think that's political. She's not a politician, after all.  And my co-workers (Reps & Dems alike) all agreed last week she looks like a walking corpse.
(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/5814c3b2190000ec02c2fc37.jpeg?cache=v6sb49jc8w)

Im currently leaning toward Eva Green.  Anyone that hasnt seen her on Penny Dreadful is missing out big-time
(http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/styd/assets/uploads/2014/06/eva-green-penny-dreadful.jpg)
Mavra is supposed to lack a feminine figure.  They're going to have to do some work to make Eva Green look androgynous.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on February 08, 2017, 09:25:08 PM
Mavra is supposed to lack a feminine figure.  They're going to have to do some work to make Eva Green look androgynous.
I dont really think so, the episodes from Penny Dreadful where she was possessed and/or locked in a mental institution had her lacking most of anything Id call femininity.  Feral maybe, but not feminine. 

That being said Mavra will need lots of corpse make-up regardless, and that effort will undoubtedly emaciate her plenty, which will further help hide any femininity she may hang onto. 

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on February 08, 2017, 09:33:06 PM
Both of them would be well in my opinion, but the older woman is scarier.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 08, 2017, 10:13:51 PM
I dont really think so, the episodes from Penny Dreadful where she was possessed and/or locked in a mental institution had her lacking most of anything Id call femininity.  Feral maybe, but not feminine. 

That being said Mavra will need lots of corpse make-up regardless, and that effort will undoubtedly emaciate her plenty, which will further help hide any femininity she may hang onto. 

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By saying it would be difficult to make her androgynous, I was referring to Eva Green's... other physical characteristics.    :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on February 09, 2017, 02:51:42 PM
I'd be willing to go with a more feminine figure to get Eva Green. (No, I'm not thinking THAT way.) (Okay I am, but I'm also thinking about the scary look.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on February 09, 2017, 08:12:01 PM
Mavra clothing will probably take care of most feminine traits.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on February 09, 2017, 08:28:56 PM
I agree Dina ....

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on February 14, 2017, 10:45:19 PM
Chyler Leigh for Lara Raith.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on February 15, 2017, 01:43:32 PM
Chyler Leigh for Lara Raith.
Not yet, but maybe soon.  My only issue with her is that she's so young that it would force Thomas to be cast in the "hollywood Highschool" age-range for her to fit the Older Sister feel.  Unless of course they completely scrap the notion of relative age appearance for the Raiths.  Which would be bold, and a little disconcerting, but definitely fitting the source material. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on February 15, 2017, 01:45:13 PM
Ive settled a few more in my mind:

Jon Malcovich as Ferro

Michael:Timothy Omundson (Current Vintage) or Dylan Deal (SF Vintage)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on February 15, 2017, 01:52:18 PM
Ive settled a few more in my mind:

Jon Malcovich as Ferro

Michael:Timothy Omundson (Current Vintage) or Dylan Deal (SF Vintage)

I could handle Timothy, but I wasn't able to find anything on Dylan.

How about Anson Mount of Hell on Wheels for Michael?

How about Colm Meaney for Gregory Cristos?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on February 15, 2017, 02:07:56 PM
I could handle Timothy, but I wasn't able to find anything on Dylan.
Here you go.  He played a villain (Prof Ivo) on the Arrow tv show.  He worked well there as a psychotic yet still oddly sympathetic captor who was experimenting on people. 
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How about Anson Mount of Hell on Wheels for Michael?
Too..Hard.  Michael is a tight-rope walk in that he needs to be a guy that can smile with his eyes alone and exude happy contentment while holding a baby at a little league game, while still chill your blood with a hard look and soft-spoken word.  Mount could do the Warrior of Heaven but not the gentle Daddy side of the character, even when he smiles it just doesnt look like it quite fits on his face. 

I could see him as a decent Slate or Kincaid, though Jason Statham is my go-to.  He'd also make a dynamite Morgan, if Clancy Brown ever starts aging.
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How about Colm Meaney for Gregory Cristos?
I think he'd fit the tone of La Fortier more.  He fits what we all suspect is under the surface of Cristos, but not the public persona.  Cristos projects himself as more of the Gilderoy Lockhart of politicians (maybe a hair less stupid).  I expect whomever plays Cristos to be a little on the younger side (relative to the SC) and to have a blindingly white fake smile. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on February 15, 2017, 05:04:30 PM
Isn't Cristos Greek?

I figured that Thomas and Lara would look the same age, given that they're Wamps.

I said it earlier, but I still think Jaime Camil would be a great Esteban Batiste.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on February 15, 2017, 05:48:59 PM
Isn't Cristos Greek?

I figured that Thomas and Lara would look the same age, given that they're Wamps.
That was my point.  Given that they're Vamps they technically look about the same age as Papa Wraith as well, but that would play extra weird on screen;  it makes the familial relationships extra confusing, as compared to casting that offers more traditional visual clues.  But then it might be a weird they like and decide to run with, and it would be an interesting way to make the Wampires extra-unsettling. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on February 15, 2017, 06:47:59 PM
Okay, I might get shot for this, but ....

Kind of like in the Twilight movies?  All of those vampires looked to be close in age.  Even the "mom" and "dad".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on February 15, 2017, 07:31:26 PM
Okay, I might get shot for this, but ....

Kind of like in the Twilight movies?  All of those vampires looked to be close in age.  Even the "mom" and "dad".
Haha, I actually thought that was rather funny.  The books had the characters all looking so young that they struggled to pass even as college age for too long.  However the movies had to labor under the "Hollywood Age" casting tradition, so most of those "kids" that looked too young for college were actually in their twenties.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 15, 2017, 10:58:48 PM
Jon Malcovich as Ferro
There is only one Mister Ferro.
(http://www.drodd.com/images13/most-interesting-man-in-the-world25.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on February 15, 2017, 11:31:41 PM
You are wrong. Ferro is James Earl Jones
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on February 16, 2017, 01:34:36 PM
You are wrong. Ferro is James Earl Jones
Bah, not even close.

No seriously.  There is no way that JEJ can play Ferro.  What would happen is that he'd end up playing Thulsa Doom  (http://conan.wikia.com/wiki/Thulsa_Doom)in a room with Harry Dresden. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on February 16, 2017, 02:03:17 PM
Mister Ferro ....

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on February 16, 2017, 02:05:25 PM
I have always pictured JEJ in my mind, specially when he uses Harry's Name. I don't even remember if there is a physical description in the books. I don't care. He is Ferro for me and always will be.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on February 16, 2017, 02:18:16 PM
I have always pictured JEJ in my mind, specially when he uses Harry's Name. I don't even remember if there is a physical description in the books. I don't care. He is Ferro for me and always will be.
Not really, all it says is that he has unusual Green eyes, indeterminate age, and an authentic Centurion uniform. 

Mister Ferro ....

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If he gets too old to play Morgan, then sure.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on February 16, 2017, 03:43:23 PM
Not really, all it says is that he has unusual Green eyes, indeterminate age, and an authentic Centurion uniform. 

I thought it also said he was a hand taller than Harry. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on February 16, 2017, 06:05:50 PM
I thought it also said he was a hand taller than Harry.
Not anywhere I can find in GP.  And there was plenty of opportunity to mention it if he'd been that tall (>7ft or so) with all the detail put into Bianca bowing just slightly lower than him.  Doesnt really make sense to me for Ferro either, he can look like anything and wasnt trying to be that overt in attracting attention (preferring the cigarette gag)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 18, 2017, 05:20:00 AM
AntarcticSpring artwork that reminds of Mab.  Since a live action show seems less and less likely, a quality animated show might be better than nothing.
(http://pre11.deviantart.net/062e/th/pre/f/2017/035/d/8/bl__ck_by_antarcticspring-daxu3sa.jpg)
(http://pre02.deviantart.net/6716/th/pre/f/2012/252/1/9/pale_light_iii_by_antarcticspring-d5e2wfm.jpg)
(http://pre04.deviantart.net/154e/th/pre/f/2012/214/0/0/pale_light_ii_by_antarcticspring-d59kuy5.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on April 28, 2017, 05:39:03 AM
Jon Benjamin as the voice of Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on May 22, 2017, 03:19:19 AM
Michelle Gomez as Mother Winter.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 23, 2017, 05:10:13 PM
Michelle Gomez as Mother Winter.
Id rather her for early Lea (in my head the Lea actress gets younger in every appearance/book, especially post rehab).

In my head the Mothers will almost certainly need to be aged up into the truly Ancient looking realm regardless of who they pick.  The ones I recall seeing suggested that I really liked were Sally Fields for Mother Summer opposite...somebody who I was not familiar with and who I cannot recall or find reference of (dammit) but who exemplified the Crone aspect of Mother Winter, somebody with the perpetually sour expression of somebody who might just consider the marrow of babies to be a type of candy. 

Judy Dench is another popular one for mama winter, but personally she's just too damn strong and formidable seeming for a character that generally huddles, shuffles, and doesnt want to so much as stand up "in the wrong season". Also I could never see Judy Dench acting as petulant/petty as mother winter occasionally does with Mother Summer. 

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on May 24, 2017, 02:31:11 PM
Mother Summer ....

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on May 25, 2017, 12:12:50 AM
Yes  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on May 25, 2017, 12:26:14 PM
Then clearly we need Cloris Leachman for Mother Winter

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0d/4c/40/0d4c40ec271e93429e47ad59502e3f9f.jpg)

(http://i1.wp.com/www.tvequals.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/American-Gods-2.jpg?resize=750%2C500)

(http://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/ScoutsGuide_Leachman.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on May 25, 2017, 05:31:31 PM
I like that
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on May 25, 2017, 05:54:39 PM
Me too
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Machiaveli on June 08, 2017, 07:25:18 PM
Hey Guys, apologies if it's already been mentioned but how about for Kincaid... Tom Hardy?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/5f/de/24/5fde245299539e018481a5135097f2be.jpg
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 08, 2017, 08:01:03 PM
Hey Guys, apologies if it's already been mentioned but how about for Kincaid... Tom Hardy?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/5f/de/24/5fde245299539e018481a5135097f2be.jpg
Im fine with that. Kincaid is one of those that rotates for based on the popular badass of the day.  Usually it's Jason Statham for me these days, though that's paradoxical for me because Kincaid has Hair in my  head and Statham does not cannot.  And either of those (Statham or Hardy) might be a bit too old depending on how young they cast Murphy; if they cast the characters for Storm Front, they have to cast most of them 15 years younger that I currently picture them.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Machiaveli on June 09, 2017, 05:26:42 PM
I was thinking much the same and considered Chris Hemsworth for the youth thing, I think he'd appear a little too wholesome for Kincaid though. However, as Kincaid isn't vanilla mortal wouldn't he appear pretty much the same throughout the series and not as prone to the ageing process as Murphy and the rest of the plain old mortal types?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on June 11, 2017, 04:06:08 PM
Been watching American Gods.

Emily Browning for Maeve.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 12, 2017, 02:31:05 PM
Been watching American Gods.

Emily Browning for Maeve.
Too mature looking, imo.  Maeve is supposed to make you feel dirty for finding her attractive.  The best Ive seen is Jena Malone, her character in the middle Hunger Games flick was a perfect Maeve, primarily using her sexuality to make others uncomfortable:

(http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/529207166bb3f76a53219fb1/jena%20malone%20catching%20fire%20elevator.gif)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 12, 2017, 03:45:18 PM
Been watching American Gods.

Emily Browning for Maeve.
I think she's doing a great job on AG, but I don't feel like she's right for Maeve and Aurora and Sarissa.  Tatiana Maslany is the only person I've seen that can manage so many unique characters.  But I feel like she's now, at 31, too old to play a teenager/early twenties woman for the 10+ years it'd take to make the series.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 12, 2017, 04:54:49 PM
I think she's doing a great job on AG, but I don't feel like she's right for Maeve and Aurora and Sarissa.  Tatiana Maslany is the only person I've seen that can manage so many unique characters.  But I feel like she's now, at 31, too old to play a teenager/early twenties woman for the 10+ years it'd take to make the series.
Im not convinced those three need to be the same actress by any stretch.  Unlike Mab and Titania, Sarissa and Maeve arent described as blatantly Identical, and Aurora's similarities always struck me as more the natural family resemblance of two cousins born of actual identical maternal DNA. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 12, 2017, 05:35:14 PM
Im not convinced those three need to be the same actress by any stretch.  Unlike Mab and Titania, Sarissa and Maeve arent described as blatantly Identical, and Aurora's similarities always struck me as more the natural family resemblance of two cousins born of actual identical maternal DNA.
Maeve and Aurora
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Her blond hair cleared out to Sidhe white, her fingers and limbs suddenly seemed slightly longer, and her features became almost identical to Maeve’s, eyes vertically slitted and almost violently green.
Maeve and Sarissa
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I looked back and forth between the two. “Hell’s bells, you’re identical twins.”
I think at that point, you'd have to get doppelgangers like Portman and Knightly, or just cast the same actress as all three.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 12, 2017, 06:26:55 PM
Maeve and AuroraMaeve and SarissaI think at that point, you'd have to get doppelgangers like Portman and Knightly, or just cast the same actress as all three.
I could absolutely go with a Portman/Knightly level, I just think that literally casting a single actress for all three would be the lazy shortcut.

And it would 100% ruin the surprise of who Sarissa really is, so there is that...  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 12, 2017, 06:48:19 PM
I could absolutely go with a Portman/Knightly level, I just think that literally casting a single actress for all three would be the lazy shortcut.

And it would 100% ruin the surprise of who Sarissa really is, so there is that...  :-\
Well, that's where makeup and acting come into play.  I've seen actresses go blonde for a role and put on heavy makeup, and they look completely different.  I think they could do the same with one actress for M/A/S, but it'd have to be the right actress.  And Sarissa might need to be a brunette, to make it less apparent.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 12, 2017, 07:06:23 PM
Well, that's where makeup and acting come into play.  I've seen actresses go blonde for a role and put on heavy makeup, and they look completely different.  I think they could do the same with one actress for M/A/S, but it'd have to be the right actress.  And Sarissa might need to be a brunette, to make it less apparent.
It could be done, and if there are budget constraints it might be likely.  But if they can Id rather them do the legwork in the casting and get two actresses that look reasonably different until you put them side by side.  Or hell, cast me some actual sisters!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 12, 2017, 08:32:51 PM
It could be done, and if there are budget constraints it might be likely.  But if they can Id rather them do the legwork in the casting and get two actresses that look reasonably different until you put them side by side.  Or hell, cast me some actual sisters!
Sister actresses seems rare, even for twins.  I'd settle for that, but I still think having A&M played by the same actress would be the best bet, considering how different they appear.  Then you could cast a sister for Sarissa down the line. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on June 12, 2017, 09:14:22 PM
Sister actresses seems rare, even for twins.  I'd settle for that, but I still think having A&M played by the same actress would be the best bet, considering how different they appear.  Then you could cast a sister for Sarissa down the line.
A&M would work better in a purely storytelling way, since she is wearing a different face at first and only slips back to the near-identical face once Harry guess her real ID.  But then you've painted yourself into a corner with Sarissa, because Sarissa needs to look /more/ like Maeve than the Cousin Aurora does, but not so much that you'd guess at the opening of CD. 

If it were me, I'd file this under elements that just dont translate well from Book to Screen, along with MC's that have close to 18" of height difference.  Since the physical similarities between Aurora and Maeve are not particularly plot relevant but would require casting two Aurora's at minimum, and limit the SK reveal bit with aurora to her shifting her eyes to the same Green Cat-eyes to match Maeve (which was the actual detail Harry seized on).  IMO that would preserve the important elements while simplifying the casting challenge, especially when you consider that Aurora might potentially be cast a full decade before Sarissa, who ultimately is going to be the more critical casting challenge.


Also, another reason why (for the screen) Id want different actresses for the Ladies is to better contrast the similarities of Mab and Titania who I DO want to be the same actress.  They are supposed to look so similar they are like Clones rather than just twins:

Quote from: CD Ch. 30
Oh, and if I hadn’t known better, I would have sworn to you that it was Mab standing there. Seriously. They didn’t look like sisters. They looked like clones.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 12, 2017, 09:29:59 PM
A&M would work better in a purely storytelling way, since she is wearing a different face at first and only slips back to the near-identical face once Harry guess her real ID.  But then you've painted yourself into a corner with Sarissa, because Sarissa needs to look /more/ like Maeve than the Cousin Aurora does, but not so much that you'd guess at the opening of CD. 

If it were me, I'd file this under elements that just dont translate well from Book to Screen, along with MC's that have close to 18" of height difference.  Since the physical similarities between Aurora and Maeve are not particularly plot relevant but would require casting two Aurora's at minimum, and limit the SK reveal bit with aurora to her shifting her eyes to the same Green Cat-eyes to match Maeve (which was the actual detail Harry seized on).  IMO that would preserve the important elements while simplifying the casting challenge, especially when you consider that Aurora might potentially be cast a full decade before Sarissa, who ultimately is going to be the more critical casting challenge.


Also, another reason why (for the screen) Id want different actresses for the Ladies is to better contrast the similarities of Mab and Titania who I DO want to be the same actress.  They are supposed to look so similar they are like Clones rather than just twins:
It'd also depend on the level of CGi enhancement used on the Sidhe.  If their "natural" state were shiny due CGI, then using the same actress without shiny for Sarissa might be doable. 

CGI example, both from 2011
(http://www.magic4walls.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/art-the-hobbit-lord-of-the-rings-elf-Legolas-Orlando-Bloom-face.jpg)
(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Orlando+Bloom+Sympathy+Delicious+New+York+N5yTFrtU4iOl.jpg)

But the viewer would likely recognize her in her normal appearance, so you still lose the surprise factor. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 12, 2017, 10:44:10 PM
Yes. IMHO, Aurora and Maeve should be the same. Elle Fanning, for instance. Sarissa should be another person, quite look alike and brunette. Perhaps even someone like Chloe Moretz-
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Zohak on June 14, 2017, 05:42:33 AM
Bella Thorne could play maeve
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2254074/

Sara Tomko could play Terra West
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2896588/

Ana Ularu could play Mab or Lara
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0880367/

Mallory Jansen Could play Mab or Lara maybe Margret G Dresden
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5220517/?ref_=nv_sr_1
 http://www.interviewmagazine.com/files/2015/01/15/img-mallory_173802416032.jpg
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: OnlyBerry on August 02, 2017, 09:09:30 PM
Not sure if this still would work (the movie is almost 20 years old by now), but everytime I read about Mab I had the image of Queen Mab from the 1998 Movie "Merlin" (the one with Sam Neill) in mind  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on August 03, 2017, 01:31:10 PM
Not sure if this still would work (the movie is almost 20 years old by now), but everytime I read about Mab I had the image of Queen Mab from the 1998 Movie "Merlin" (the one with Sam Neill) in mind  :)
Not to worry, there are tons of those around here.  SmF and forward, Sanya will always be (the Late, Great) Michael Duncan Clark to me.   And Im convinced that when people say Nathan Fillion would make a good Harry, they really mean that a Firefly Vintage Fillion would work, rather than the current Post-Castle guy. 


Hey, help me out here: On that Merlin show, I was absolutely convinced that the villainess was Maeve rather than Mab.  I recall this distinctly, because it was the first time Id heard the name Maeve and it took me a but to figure out what he was actually saying.  But everything Im seeing online has her listed as Mab.  Anyone have a recollection?  I might have to dig it out of my old movie collection. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on August 03, 2017, 06:12:43 PM
You know, Q, I just checked IMDB and there is no Mab or Maeve listed as a character in Merlin (1998).

Odd, because I remember her as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on August 03, 2017, 06:58:18 PM
I googled her (because I have not seen the movie) and it's Miranda Richardson, which is a good choice. I like her better in Snow White, actually.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on August 03, 2017, 07:34:10 PM
You know, Q, I just checked IMDB and there is no Mab or Maeve listed as a character in Merlin (1998).

Odd, because I remember her as well.
IMDB has her listed weirdly because she played two roles and the second gets abbreviated to "/..." She played both the evil queen (mab on wikipedia, Maeve in ma' brain) and also her twin sister the Lady of the Lake. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Con on August 15, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
Ok have said this a couple of times on the board but thought I'd put it in the proper thread.

Laura Vandervoort as Murphy
(http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/bitten-laura-vandervoort.jpg)

Stephen Lang as Vadderung
(http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Stephen-Lang-Terra-Nova.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Quantus on August 15, 2017, 12:47:11 PM
Vanervoort could work, I was impressed with her performance in the early Bitten seasons.  I dont /dislike/ Stephen Lang, and he'd make a fine Norse God in most circumstances, but he's a little too innately...harsh? for how Vadderung actually behaves in his scenes. 

Vadderung:
(https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/8/8c/Iain_Glen_Game_Thrones_DVDpremiere.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160707221818)

Kringle:
(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/1/1b/Jeor_Mormont_Season_2.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/333?cb=20120705014740)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Con on August 19, 2017, 05:52:12 AM
Of course the Mormonts Game of Thrones.

I dunno Stephen Lang in Terra Nova is quite light hearted.

And yes I enjoyed Vandervoorts performance in the early seasons of Bitten.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on August 19, 2017, 06:08:46 AM
Vandervoort is too pretty for Murph.

Can we have Lyanna Mormont as Ivy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 20, 2017, 12:41:41 AM
5'3" Rooney Mara as Murphy might not be bad.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CepXyAaWQAAF73P.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on August 20, 2017, 12:49:59 AM
Ah, that is a choice I approve.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 20, 2017, 02:40:23 AM
Ah, that is a choice I approve.
Of course, part of me wants to cast her and Tom Hiddleston as the Hamilton twins.  Downside would be that the roles would be really small.  But I'm hoping to see them again in Mirror Mirror; it might be easier to get big names for small roles rather than recurring ones.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/27/7d/fe/277dfeb7b1dddcefd5081ceb6cf62639--rooney-mara-look-alike.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Con on August 20, 2017, 12:17:08 PM
(https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111125557/3505385-8174514789-slade.jpg)

I think he can pull off the eye patch

Edit: RIP Lord Commander Mormont.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Rasins on September 26, 2017, 03:06:56 PM
I think Steven Lang has the Gravitas to play the part.

But I agree that Laura Vandervoort is too pretty to be Murphy.  Except for being blonde, she could totally be Lara.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 06, 2017, 02:21:09 PM
Okay, so, this one's a bit weird, in that I just saw this actor playing a private investigator, and he was absolutely horrible.  But I don't think it was his fault; I think they directed him that way.

Anyway, his name is Hartley Sawyer.  I'm not sure about his height, but he's definitely got a lean build.  If he can act better than he did, he might make a decent Harry.
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/arrow/images/0/0f/Hartley_Sawyer.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20170731211939)
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Post by: Dina on November 06, 2017, 03:56:59 PM
He was not horrible! He was great!
And no, I can't see him as Harry because he is too Jim Carrey.
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Post by: Rasins on November 06, 2017, 04:27:45 PM
What did ya'll see him in?
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Post by: Griffyn612 on November 06, 2017, 05:15:54 PM
He was not horrible! He was great!
And no, I can't see him as Harry because he is too Jim Carrey.
That was the way he acted.  I'd want him to act like a normal guy for Harry.

What did ya'll see him in?
He was in last week's episode of Flash.
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Post by: Rasins on November 06, 2017, 05:29:02 PM
Oh, good.

I'm still watching previous seasons on Netflix, so I'll get there.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on November 06, 2017, 05:30:52 PM
That guy looks like a cross between Jim Carrey and Willem Defoe, a strange combination. So possible.
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Post by: Griffyn612 on November 06, 2017, 06:19:43 PM
I feel like he's got potential with long hair and some stubble.  My take was that Harry was supposed to be more rugged than handsome.  Sawyer looks like he could be that, but he might be too pretty-boy.  (I'm not sure about these things)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Hartley-Sawyer-cup.jpg/1200px-Hartley-Sawyer-cup.jpg)


Also, what about Marcus Vanco for Thomas?
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Post by: Talby16 on November 16, 2017, 03:05:25 PM
I do not think Hartley's role in Flash does him justice. I think he is directed to act like a sleazy Jim Carrey knock-off with his morals being moving targets. I think he could play more of an everyman given a chance.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on November 17, 2017, 09:44:08 AM
Elongated Man got really serious during Identity Crisis. 
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Post by: YoungestGruff on March 03, 2018, 11:24:33 PM
God, I know. I found out Karl Urban is actually 42 and I was like, aw. Ooh, Alfred from the upcoming Batman v. Superman. He would be a great Nicky. But lemme hit y’all with my lineup:

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So. Denarian is in charge of casting now, right?

Also. Matt Bomer for Thomas.
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Post by: Dina on March 03, 2018, 11:34:20 PM
I completely agree about Matt Bomer. He has always being Thomas for me.
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Post by: YoungestGruff on March 05, 2018, 01:21:59 AM
Sir Patrick Stewart as Eldest Gruff.

(You don't need a picture. Partially because it'd be ninety percent voice, and partly because it's Sir Patrick blinking Stewart)
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Post by: wardenferry419 on March 05, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
Sounds good to me.
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Post by: Graves on April 15, 2018, 12:40:12 PM
to get it just perfect you'd need to dicker around with the years but

Ernie Hudson as Rawlings- so perfect. I hadn't thought of him until you wrote that but perfect.
Denver Pyle - Ebeneezer. 
Morgan Freeman- as uriel (I think this is a given)
Anthony Hopkins as The merlin

Harry- Harrison Ford crica 1985- the confidence smarts and look of 'oh no' when it doesn't work, most people know he gives good glower but spielburg remembers he's great when he grins.
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Post by: Dina on April 15, 2018, 05:08:51 PM
Yes, so much yes
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Post by: wardenferry419 on April 15, 2018, 11:33:38 PM
Lee Pace might make a good Harry. Plus, he is 6'5."
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Post by: Griffyn612 on April 16, 2018, 01:42:17 AM
Lee Pace might make a good Harry. Plus, he is 6'5."
If I were going to go with an older start for Harry ( 30's rather than 20's) I'd say Ben Barnes has the look more than Lee Pace.  He's only 6'1", but I'd sacrifice a few inches for the right look.  And he's played a dark role well twice now that I've seen.  He's got a solid screen presence.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/75/f5/65/75f565c7135ae8661b1e7895b7db039d.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/42/3c/f7/423cf7503a69523887cc9ffe729fa456--ben-barnes-fairytale.jpg)
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Post by: Dina on April 16, 2018, 02:09:18 AM
I agree. Lee Pace has too much a "nice guy" face. Harry needs a darker face.
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Post by: TheJrade on April 23, 2018, 03:14:53 PM
To me Marcone is not stolid and grouchy.  I would cast Adam Baldwin.  I mean I know he is blacklisted for political reasons but is not the Hero of Canton worthy of a second chance?
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Post by: Foxed on June 07, 2018, 11:54:09 PM
This might seem odd.

But what about Levar Burton as Uriel?
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Post by: Dina on June 08, 2018, 12:05:06 AM
Not bad...
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Post by: Quantus on June 08, 2018, 12:23:16 PM
But what about Levar Burton as Uriel?
...Damn.  Head-cannon Accepted.  8)
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Post by: Griffyn612 on June 08, 2018, 01:20:22 PM
I think I'd prefer Uriel to appear as someone different each time.  Morgan Freeman the first time, and then whatever actor or actress they can get.  Maybe CGI the eyes to always be the same vibrant color to make identification easy. 
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Post by: Quantus on June 08, 2018, 01:29:02 PM
I think I'd prefer Uriel to appear as someone different each time.  Morgan Freeman the first time, and then whatever actor or actress they can get.  Maybe CGI the eyes to always be the same vibrant color to make identification easy.
I could get behind that, though it also makes sense to me to it like the books where he settled to a specific for when interacting openly with Harry, though the "Jake" appearance would obviously be different.
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Post by: Griffyn612 on June 08, 2018, 01:34:06 PM
I could get behind that, though it also makes sense to me to it like the books where he settled to a specific for when interacting openly with Harry, though the "Jake" appearance would obviously be different.
It'd be slightly interesting to me if Uriel appears to people as they expect an angel to appear, onet they know who they are.  When Harry didn't know Uriel from a janitor, he appeared as someone Harry expected to be there at that time.  After Harry knew, though, Harry's preconception was applied. (A bit like Sandman/Morpheus in that)

But I'd prefer Uriel be of no specific gender or race. 
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Post by: wardenferry419 on June 08, 2018, 11:51:54 PM
Harry Dean Stanton would have made a good Uriel-janitor.
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Post by: Griffyn612 on June 09, 2018, 03:28:38 AM
Harry Dean Stanton would have made a good Uriel-janitor.
...well...
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He had a round belly and short, curling silver hair that matched his beard, both cropped close to his dark skin.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-POwYI5Xk1vo/U4OZ9CtotAI/AAAAAAAAAEk/0GgeenFEqy0/s1600/003BAL_Morgan_Freeman_002.jpg)
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Post by: wardenferry419 on June 10, 2018, 01:25:41 AM
Yeah, you got me.
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Post by: jonas on June 10, 2018, 08:39:45 AM
...well...(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-POwYI5Xk1vo/U4OZ9CtotAI/AAAAAAAAAEk/0GgeenFEqy0/s1600/003BAL_Morgan_Freeman_002.jpg)
You know that's the original reasoning I got
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Post by: Quantus on June 11, 2018, 01:13:40 PM
You know that's the original reasoning I got
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My current cosmology theory would have no trouble with the Archangels being splinter personalities/Avatar's of the Creator, in the same way that some Hindu frameworks view all gods as aspects of Brahman. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on June 12, 2018, 10:39:44 PM
Andre Braugher as Steed or Chandler.
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Post by: Quantus on June 13, 2018, 11:30:47 AM
Andre Braugher as Steed or Chandler.
Naah, I always pictured him as a bit more on the young&dapper side. But now I really want Braugher in there somewhere.  Rawlins, or maybe La Fortier?  Could even get behind him as Morgan.
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Post by: Talby16 on June 13, 2018, 04:10:37 PM
Andre Braugher would play a good Uriel in my opinion. What about Martin Freeman as Chandler?
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Post by: Dina on June 13, 2018, 04:40:31 PM
I like both suggestions.
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Post by: Talby16 on June 13, 2018, 08:51:40 PM
For Uriel I would like some one with gravitas, but can play the straight man to Harry's humor. Based on Andre's work in Brooklyn Nine-Nine he would be great in that role.
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Post by: Griffyn612 on June 13, 2018, 10:05:45 PM
I like Colin Salmon for Chandler.  He's got a proper gravitas that Chandler should have.  A charming confidence of self.  He doesn't conform to the textual description of Chandler, but I think he fits.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tardis/images/b/b0/Mr._Colin_Salmon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170628142109)
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Post by: Quantus on June 14, 2018, 11:07:20 AM
I like Colin Salmon for Chandler.  He's got a proper gravitas that Chandler should have.  A charming confidence of self.  He doesn't conform to the textual description of Chandler, but I think he fits.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tardis/images/b/b0/Mr._Colin_Salmon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170628142109)
I never actually got 'Gravtias' from Chandler, he was all non-stop fashion quips and one of the first things he ever said was "“I am freezing off my well-tailored ass,”".  He ranks right up there with Binder as an unapologetic cultural stereotype.
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Post by: Talby16 on June 14, 2018, 04:12:46 PM
Colin Salmon is certainly acceptable to me as Chandler.
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Post by: Griffyn612 on June 14, 2018, 11:13:28 PM
I never actually got 'Gravtias' from Chandler, he was all non-stop fashion quips and one of the first things he ever said was "“I am freezing off my well-tailored ass,”".  He ranks right up there with Binder as an unapologetic cultural stereotype.
Maybe gravitas isn't what I'm looking for.  Maybe supercilious without the arrogance?  That thing some Brits can do where they can likeably get away with saying, "Yes, because I'm British."
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Post by: Quantus on June 15, 2018, 11:58:31 AM
Maybe gravitas isn't what I'm looking for.  Maybe supercilious without the arrogance?  That thing some Brits can do where they can likeably get away with saying, "Yes, because I'm British."
I kinda want somebody like Matt Bomer without actually being Thoma- I mean Matt Bomer.  In the sense that Steed's defining trait to me (more than even his britishness) is that he can be obsessed with fashion while still being a badass.

Dapper.  Thats the word Im looking for:  Chandler Steed needs to exude "Dapper" from every pore

A Neil Patrick Harris, or maybe a well-groomed Orlando Jones?  or OOOh!  Taye Diggs!  Can Taye Diggs do a British accent?  Id also be fine with Chadwick Boseman playing it light and British like he did in Gods of Egypt. 
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Post by: Griffyn612 on June 15, 2018, 01:02:36 PM
I kinda want somebody like Matt Bomer without actually being Thoma- I mean Matt Bomer.  In the sense that Steed's defining trait to me (more than even his britishness) is that he can be obsessed with fashion while still being a badass.

Dapper.  Thats the word Im looking for:  Chandler Steed needs to exude "Dapper" from every pore

A Neil Patrick Harris, or maybe a well-groomed Orlando Jones?  or OOOh!  Taye Diggs!  Can Taye Diggs do a British accent?  Id also be fine with Chadwick Boseman playing it light and British like he did in Gods of Egypt.
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Post by: Quantus on June 15, 2018, 01:09:22 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/e3/33/71/e333719d469b75ecc935389d725bf052--colin-salmon-limitless.jpg)
Still too much gravitas for dapper.  There's a certain devil-may-care foppishness invoked in bitching about fashion as an alternative to gallows humor.  Put another way, he needs to be stylish without being a default authority figure, which is more of what I consider Colin Salmon's wheelhouse.


FWIW Ive only seen Salmon in Arrow, which was a character that never got more carefree than a sad, burdened half-smile.  So I may just be underestimating his range. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 15, 2018, 03:00:07 PM
Krypton! You should see it.

Also, how old are we talking?
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Post by: Griffyn612 on June 15, 2018, 05:51:03 PM
Still too much gravitas for dapper.  There's a certain devil-may-care foppishness invoked in bitching about fashion as an alternative to gallows humor.  Put another way, he needs to be stylish without being a default authority figure, which is more of what I consider Colin Salmon's wheelhouse.


FWIW Ive only seen Salmon in Arrow, which was a character that never got more carefree than a sad, burdened half-smile.  So I may just be underestimating his range.
He usually plays characters with a commanding presence.  But that's kind of how I picture Steed.  Your take on him seems more foppish than mine.  I took him as concerned about his appearance, but no more than your typical British gentleman.  And his use of Casual capital Letters struck me as more "assumed British superiority" than "foppish dandy".
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Post by: Dina on June 15, 2018, 07:23:01 PM
So, you are thinking a young Roger Moore?
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Post by: Ananda on June 17, 2018, 01:49:50 AM
Anders Hagström from Ashbury Heights band is dapper. :)

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Post by: Quantus on June 21, 2018, 12:08:16 PM
He usually plays characters with a commanding presence.  But that's kind of how I picture Steed.  Your take on him seems more foppish than mine.  I took him as concerned about his appearance, but no more than your typical British gentleman.  And his use of Casual capital Letters struck me as more "assumed British superiority" than "foppish dandy".
Ya, my read was definitely more on the foppish side of it; still competent in the extreme, but the sort of guy that puts effort into being disarmingly charming, who doesnt want the first impression to be a commanding presence or anything so formidable.  Which makes sense since he's a chronomancer that makes the rest of the council nervous.  I pictured him more the sort of guy that surprises the hell out of people when he whips a sword out of his cain and actually knows how to use it. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Ananda on August 02, 2018, 02:14:54 AM
Siddig el Fadil aka Dr. Bashir from Deep Space Nine would be good as Nic. He was recently in Game of Thones, too. He’s still very handsome and charming.
(http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/db_articles/546d2b8a08699d0fc1a6bb89e593d8916b025557.jpg)
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Post by: Dina on August 02, 2018, 03:04:51 AM
Ra's al Ghul in Gotham too  :)
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Post by: wardenferry419 on August 02, 2018, 11:57:08 PM
Thanks for the DS9 mention. I saw him on Gotham and thought, "Man, he looks familiar."
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Post by: Dina on August 03, 2018, 02:07:00 AM
LOL! I am too much a trekker to have problems identifying the main actors and so I tend to imagine everyone is like me  :). He goes by Alexander Siddig since years ago, but he will always be Siddig el Fadil for me.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on August 03, 2018, 10:51:40 PM
I was more of a TNG than a DS9.
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Post by: ITheHellAmFan on August 14, 2018, 01:17:41 AM
I was more of a TNG than a DS9.
I was the opposite.
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Post by: Griffyn612 on August 17, 2018, 03:28:45 AM
Siddig el Fadil aka Dr. Bashir from Deep Space Nine would be good as Nic. He was recently in Game of Thones, too. He’s still very handsome and charming.
(http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/db_articles/546d2b8a08699d0fc1a6bb89e593d8916b025557.jpg)
I want him for Rashid. 

I'm leaning more towards Crispen Glover for Nicodemus now that my old choice (Robert Knepper) has been accused of things.

(https://media.gq.com/photos/584f1a51129aa046088e6e02/master/w_800/0117-GQ-FEOS01-Crispin-Glover-01.jpg)

Glover (and Knepper) work as Nicodemus for me because they just look like bad guys.  Even if they're lovely in real life, they look evil.  And that's how I imagine Nico looking after centuries of being evil; he can act nice, but he's not fooling anyone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: zetadog on August 28, 2018, 09:00:41 PM
clancy brown: Morgan
Guy Pierce: Harry
Lou Diamond Phillips: Injun Joe
Billy Bob Thornton: Marcone
Cilian Murphy: Thomas

it is hard because the iconic actors i can think of are kinda old
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on August 28, 2018, 11:42:51 PM
Eh...no.
I really don't like your choices for Harry and Thomas. No problems with the others.
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Post by: Fcrate on August 30, 2018, 05:38:53 PM
Okay, Guy Pierce? Not a chance -.-
I don't like your choice of Marcone either. TBH, I think Benedict Cumberbatch with all grey hair would do much better in that role.
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Post by: Foxed on September 13, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
Michelle Yeoh for Mai.

Marc Evan Jackson for Chandler. A Yank, but I think he has the proper demeanor.

Josh Brolin as Marcone.

And I stand by Lena Headley as both Mab and Titania.
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Post by: Dina on September 14, 2018, 01:32:07 AM
Yes, yes, yes, no  :D (IMHO)
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Post by: Ananda on September 15, 2018, 09:20:53 AM
Grace Jones would be a good Mab. She still looks amazing.

(http://kalamu.com/neogriot/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/grace-02.jpg)
(https://www.billboard.com/files/styles/900_wide/public/media/12-grace-jones-style-gallery-2018-a-billboard-1548.jpg)
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Post by: zetadog on September 15, 2018, 10:08:36 AM
John Corbett as Harry, if he were 20 years younger.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Con on October 07, 2018, 02:43:31 AM
Stephen Lang as Vadderung
Femke Jannsen as Mab
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Post by: toshea on October 13, 2018, 10:39:49 PM
So this happened:
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/development-tnt-orders-sci-fi-drama-from-ridley-scott-dresden-files-returns-to-tv

Just sayin...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Ananda on October 14, 2018, 10:28:30 PM
That Ridley Scott series sounds interesting.
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Post by: KipIngram on October 26, 2018, 10:22:51 PM
Oh god - this is one of my favorite "time waster" games...

Historically I've had the "can't picture anyone else" problem with Michael - EVERY scene I imagine an appropriately aged Liam Neeson.

For Murphy I like Kristen Bell.  This just works:

(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/2700000/Season-3-elle-bishop-2747417-1600-1067.jpg)

I like Charlize Theron for Mab.

For Marcone I like Ray Stevenson:
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My sadness here is that I just don't have a Harry.  No one has ever seemed "perfect" to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: ITheHellAmFan on October 27, 2018, 12:40:46 AM
I like all three of those Kip.
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Post by: Dina on October 27, 2018, 10:59:33 PM
So do I.
I always thought Paul Blackthorne was actually great for Harry. In my mind, this image is so amazing...
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Post by: Griffyn612 on October 28, 2018, 08:42:52 PM
I could come around to Nicholas Hoult as Harry.  He's 6'3", which I think is a reasonable compromise for 6'9" at this point.  At 28, he can look young enough for SF Harry if they start at the beginning, but he can age into the role as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Fcrate on October 29, 2018, 01:42:53 AM
Kip, your choices are quite good. Charlize Theron would especially kick ass as Mab.
However, I disagree with your choice of Murphy. Don't really feel it.
Murphy: Abbie Cornish.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dTLpoNUAGS0/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: KipIngram on October 29, 2018, 11:08:25 AM
Well, she definitely has the right look, though she's 5'7".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Foxed on March 24, 2019, 01:28:12 AM
Ok. I got it. An unimpeachable choice.

Marsai Martin for Ivy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: DanceGeek5678 on July 29, 2019, 02:57:56 AM
For my part, I have seen Chris Hemsworth as Michael from the very start.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: g33k on July 30, 2019, 09:10:00 PM
Hmmm.

Not sure I have specifics for the roles, but I'd love them to cast 1 actress each for Mab+Titania and for Maeve+Aurora.

Winter/Summer colors for makeup & wigs, but play up how similar they LOOK (apart from colorschemes) but how different their MANNERISMS (we'd need decent acting chops, with an ability to do some scenery-chewing -- none of them are mellow, laid-back characters!).
 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on August 01, 2019, 01:13:55 AM
I agree!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 18, 2019, 08:41:41 PM
I always thought Tatiana Maslany was great as numerous different characters on Orphan Black.  She could even play one clone pretending to be another clone, and you'd be able to tell the difference.  I'm sure others could do it, but I'd opt for her to play Aurora/Maeve/ :-X

(https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Orphan-Black.jpg)
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Post by: wardenferry419 on August 20, 2019, 01:59:00 AM
Good call, Griff!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on August 20, 2019, 03:10:29 AM
She is great!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 27, 2020, 01:06:50 PM
I just finished watching True Detective season two and I don't know why we didn't say Rachel McAdams is Murphy ages ago. Surely someone said this?
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/14/15/e0141561e8232db775be3aa049730b31.jpg)
(https://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/true-detective-season-2-8-omega-station-airport-scene-velcoro-bezzerides-colin-farrell-rachel-mcadams-review-episode-guide-list.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 27, 2020, 06:08:52 PM
I don't remember, but I like her look.
I am trying to think in a good Grey. He needs to be a bland looking person but a good actor that can convey intensity when needed. I did not find it yet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 28, 2020, 02:44:32 AM
I am trying to think in a good Grey. He needs to be a bland looking person but a good actor that can convey intensity when needed. I did not find it yet.
Luke Hemsworth?
(https://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/lg/public/2017/01/07/luke-hemsworth.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on November 28, 2020, 06:04:30 AM
Mm, could be. He was fine in Westworld.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on December 05, 2020, 08:43:44 PM
Eltony Williams as Sanya.

(https://www.thehypemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Eltony-Williams-3.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAHdU1nU0AAoGLS.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on December 05, 2020, 09:16:18 PM
Heck yeah  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Chiana on December 05, 2020, 11:32:59 PM
Eltony Williams as Sanya.

(https://www.thehypemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Eltony-Williams-3.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAHdU1nU0AAoGLS.jpg)

Um, yes please.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: deadvoid on December 16, 2020, 02:48:54 AM
Sophia Bush as Murph
(https://i.imgur.com/c6VEQle.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pVQshFe.jpg)

Anya Taylor-Joy as Maeve or Aurora
(https://i.imgur.com/XnF5DFR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VkImRdT.jpeg)

Jason Isaacs as Michael
(https://i.imgur.com/hSudC9d.jpeg)

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Sanya
(https://i.imgur.com/8Pg5lNW.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OzEPKHy.jpeg)

Kringle/Vadderung
(https://i.imgur.com/jXeh8hy.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Ed0517 on January 04, 2021, 03:58:59 AM
Guy looks a bit thin for Michael - the perfect Michael passed a few years back - Merlin Olsen. Huge, bearded, kindly manner but you knew you didn't want to see him mad. I remember seeing him play ball. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 31, 2021, 04:43:04 PM
I don't know if everyone has watched Altered Carbon on Netflix but I just realized, very belatedly, that Chris Conner, who played Poe on the series, would make a great Butters. He was great as a quirky character, and I think he'd make Butters more loveable.
(https://www.celebheights.com/xr/c/chris-conner.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on March 19, 2021, 08:50:37 AM
I was watching Superman & Lois and I thought that this guy, who plays Morgan Edge, could do a good Marcone. Sorry I couldn't find a better picture as in most images I found he is sporting a beard.
(https://cheesecake.articleassets.meaww.com/525196/uploads/640f8500-7b9e-11eb-886b-6f3044ce0bd4_800_420.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Hosato on July 19, 2021, 05:17:24 PM
I think Henry Cavill would make a good Michael Carpenter.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Con on July 20, 2021, 11:46:01 AM
I think Henry Cavill would make a good Michael Carpenter.

hmph you and everyone else who thinks he makes a good casting choice for Superman.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Ed0517 on September 26, 2021, 05:29:56 AM
I think Henry Cavill would make a good Michael Carpenter.

I'd want someone more imposing. Unfortunately, he died a few years ago. Merlin Olsen. 6'5", 300 pound bearded ex-NFL Hall of Fame tackle - a guy who literally got his first acting job because they wanted someone who made John Wayne and Rock Hudson look small.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on September 26, 2021, 06:52:12 AM
I know he is too young now, but I think Alan Ritchson, the actor who played Aquaman in "Smallville" and Hawk in "Titans" looks a lot like a young Merlin Olsen. He is not as tall, but I don't remember Michael being that tall anyway.
(https://footballfoundation.org/images/2018/8/8/869_Olsen_Merlin_Utah_State.png?width=300)
(https://elhorror.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/1593414830_Alan-Ritchson-de-Smallville-recibio-el-regreso-de-Aquaman-en.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Con on June 12, 2023, 07:07:06 AM
(https://i.redd.it/krs7rpisrpa71.jpg)
Graham MacTavish-Ebenezar McCoy

Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 12, 2023, 11:45:47 AM
I like it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Con on June 12, 2023, 12:04:42 PM
I like it.

Hehe thanks. He's kinda perfect for it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Regenbogen on June 14, 2023, 06:11:16 AM
(https://i.redd.it/krs7rpisrpa71.jpg)
Graham MacTavish-Ebenezar McCoy
Cool. I agree. He would be perfect. Though I always had old Sean Connery in my head.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Con on June 15, 2023, 05:21:01 AM
@Regenbogen Yeah I can see that not a big sean connery fan myself.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 15, 2023, 12:14:16 PM
Statistically, there must be someone who was not a Connery fan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Regenbogen on June 15, 2023, 12:23:17 PM
In this world there is space for all kinds of fans. Connery or not Connery, that is the question.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Con on June 16, 2023, 07:21:08 AM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/4cffb5d4aa32ebceb8f67e1b981f8048/tumblr_p2d5fvqPch1tyjd90o1_400.png)
Flopsie the Goat Gorilla(Avatar)- Elder Gruff
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Regenbogen on June 16, 2023, 07:42:55 AM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/4cffb5d4aa32ebceb8f67e1b981f8048/tumblr_p2d5fvqPch1tyjd90o1_400.png)
Flopsie the Goat Gorilla(Avatar)- Elder Gruff
;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Dina on June 17, 2023, 07:19:20 AM
Loved it!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting Part Three
Post by: Con on June 17, 2023, 12:52:26 PM
hehe thought you'd like that.