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Title: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Oddball on January 08, 2013, 06:04:14 AM
Here are a few figures I'd like to see in future books.
Krampus bad cop to Santa's good cop.
Baba Yaga the wicked witch of  eastern European folklore
Loki the problem child of Asgard.
coyote the class clown of western Native American mythology.

Share the mythological figures you'd like see and why you like them

Curator's note:  This topic seems to have a lot of great discussion, thus it is being archived :) -Serack
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 08, 2013, 06:24:54 AM
Athena- if numbers of worshippers actualy mean anything, she'd be the second most powerfull god after the WG. either way, could be interesting.

Carmilla. of course, im quazy enough to think shes allready shown up

 ;)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Oddball on January 08, 2013, 06:50:46 AM
WOW!!! ;D the exalted Ms Duck replying to my post. you've just made my day thank you.   
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Shinto_Knight on January 08, 2013, 06:53:51 AM
Baba Yaga the wicked witch of  eastern European folklore
IMHO we have seen her, or rather one of her aspects. Baba Yaga = Mother Winter...
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: KurtinStGeorge on January 08, 2013, 07:59:26 AM
Carmilla. of course, im quazy enough to think shes allready shown up

 ;)

Do you think Mavra is Carmilla, because I always though Carmilla was well, Hot?  That's something that Mavra is definitely not.  Not even in a Nightmare before Christmas or Cemetery Man sort of way.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Socratov on January 08, 2013, 08:13:00 AM
Do you think Mavra is Carmilla, because I always though Carmilla was well, Hot?  That's something that Mavra is definitely not.  Not even in a Nightmare before Christmas or Cemetery Man sort of way.

Well, to be honest, at Bianca's party Mavra is being described as sexy, only when harry uses his Sight he can see the corpselike appearance of her (and not that easy even). So, she does amintain a vanity illusion to look pretty. Though this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mavra) might just apply as well...

Anyway, I, too, expect to see Loki (but I specualted he's allready in the story under the guise of Johnny Marcone with some mind shenanigans).

I also expect to meet Oberon (if he isn't the Erlking) as a counter to Kringle and I expect to see the other 3 archangels turn up in the books.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: KurtinStGeorge on January 08, 2013, 08:24:06 AM
Well, to be honest, at Bianca's party Mavra is being described as sexy, only when harry uses his Sight he can see the corpselike appearance of her (and not that easy even). So, she does amintain a vanity illusion to look pretty. Though this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mavra) might just apply as well...

I also expect to meet Oberon (if he isn't the Erlking) as a counter to Kringle and I expect to see the other 3 archangels turn up in the books.

Are you sure about that, because I think you are confusing the description of Bianca with Mavra?  Mavra was wearing a Hamlet outfit; generally not terribly sexy on a woman, except maybe Greta Garbo in similar type outfit in Queen Christina.  Mavra (actually her double) was wearing the same thing in Blood Rites and she didn't look hot then.  Even if Harry hadn't seen her with his sight, the visible Mavra was not attractive in any way I can think of.

Sorry to disappoint you, but Jim has said that Oberon is dead.  He was involved in a romantic? triangle with Titania and Mab and it didn't end well for him.  I don't think this is in a WoJ.  I think you have to watch his most recent Q&A's on YouTube to see that comment.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: TheCuriousFan on January 08, 2013, 08:38:15 AM
Sorry to disappoint you, but Jim has said that Oberon is dead.  He was involved in a romantic? triangle with Titania and Mab and it didn't end well for him.  I don't think this is in a WoJ.  I think you have to watch his most recent Q&A's on YouTube to see that comment.

Quote
Dudesan: You've described Santa Claus as being the Winter King. What does that title mean? Do Winter and Summer each have a trinity of Father/King/Prince, like they do with Mother/Queen/Lady? Is the King necessarily the consort of the Queen? If so, will we be seeing Oberon at some point?
Jim: 5) The Faerie realms just aren't that structured. It's more accurate to say that he is /a/ Winter King. Or even more accurately, that he is a free Wyld Fae who is of a power level that is on par with Mab's and happens to neighbor her sphere of influence, and finds it simpler to show up to family dinners during the holidays and make polite than to start staking out boundaries and establishing treaties.
Oberon... well, the guy kind of wound up between Mab and Titania in one of those romantic triangle things, back around Shakespeare's day. He didn't make it.

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,34849.msg1667174.html#msg1667174
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: TheJackel on January 08, 2013, 10:13:54 AM
Surtr
Kali
Zues
Death
Lucifer
Anubis
Set
Cronos
Peter Pan :)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: madness on January 08, 2013, 10:46:54 AM
The Baba Yaga = Mother Winter clue bat has been pretty heavy-handed, hasn't it?

BTW, coyote is an awesome trickster god and thus tons of fun.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: rekshek on January 08, 2013, 11:44:09 AM
Vidar, slayer of Fafnir.
Fafnir
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: FireWorks on January 08, 2013, 12:16:10 PM
Oberon
Leprechauns
Djinn
Japanese: Lord Izanagi, Kitsune
Death (could be mother winter)
Norse: Loki, Surtr, Thor, Baldur
Hindu: Narada (troublesome sage),Vetala (vampire like ghost), Asuras, Rakshasas(like Kumbhakarna)
Greek: Zues, Athena, Posidon, Hades, Kronos, Oceanus, Gaia (i suspect this was the old mother summer)
Also, Baal, Beelzebub, Azazel, Lucifer
 ;D

Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 08, 2013, 12:25:57 PM
WOW!!! ;D the exalted Ms Duck replying to my post. you've just made my day thank you.

WOW!!! I GOT EXCALMEY POINTS!!! THank you :D
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Paladino on January 08, 2013, 12:28:32 PM
WOW!!! I GOT EXCALMEY POINTS!!! THank you :D

Don't feed the duck!

The number of theories and long post alredy eat too much of my time for you to motivate her.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 08, 2013, 12:28:53 PM
Do you think Mavra is Carmilla, because I always though Carmilla was well, Hot?  That's something that Mavra is definitely not.  Not even in a Nightmare before Christmas or Cemetery Man sort of way.

not so much as hot, but more..cute by modern standards.

short, brown hair, lesbain, obsessive about her love interests, capable of walking in daylight, can pass for human, change her shape..

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,32663.msg1452338.html#msg1452338 (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,32663.msg1452338.html#msg1452338)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: dpara on January 08, 2013, 12:29:03 PM
From the giant monster class;
Cthulhu, the better Cloverfield Monster (http://www.papermag.com/2008/01/the_monster_from_cloverfield.php) , uh Godzilla ..in case Harry ever goes to Japan.

The usual suspects Athena, Kali, Lucifer & Hades (sry no Loki I can't get over that stupid Marvel helmet, he's tainted XD).

Tiamat & Marduk to me Babylonian sounds pretty cool, with maybe remaining idols as story hooks.

In general I would to see more mystical/mythical places/(stupidly risky exploring) in the NN, the various hells/heavens, I guess any of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mythological_places would make me happy.

Peter Pan.. ..that came so out of left field... so I am gonna pick the tooth fairy ( I think she is winter XD .. or even Mab herself XD XD )
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 08, 2013, 12:36:35 PM
in pre monthesitic abrahmaic religion the wg had a wife (Asherah, who if she showed up in the DF would be mother summer) and an arch enemy.. tehom/ tehob, the darkness upon the deep.

sooooooooooo whose up for a dragon the size of egypt?
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: wizard nelson on January 08, 2013, 12:48:17 PM
isn't sir lancelot doomed to wander the earth til aurthers return or some such? lancelot would be nice.
 i got this crazy WAG about who aurther is too ;)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 08, 2013, 01:04:08 PM
isn't sir lancelot doomed to wander the earth til aurthers return or some such? lancelot would be nice.
 i got this crazy WAG about who aurther is too ;)

in most of the versions ive read, lancelot's dead as a doornail. Are you thinking of the wandering Jew?

and its just a total WAG.. but in the 'romantic' versions arthur is taken to avalon by his three sisters..one of whom is Mab.

 ;)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: wizard nelson on January 08, 2013, 01:13:59 PM
in most of the versions ive read, lancelot's dead as a doornail. Are you thinking of the wandering Jew?

and its just a total WAG.. but in the 'romantic' versions arthur is taken to avalon by his three sisters..one of whom is Mab.

 ;)
another total WAG eldest gruff is merlin ;)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Cruness on January 08, 2013, 01:27:09 PM
Apollo.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: wizard nelson on January 08, 2013, 01:34:57 PM
Apollo.
thats likely the erlking, hunting having replaced war in some respects. apollo? sun? summer? summer king? erlking? ::)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Arjan on January 08, 2013, 01:37:14 PM
Don't feed the duck!

The number of theories and long post alredy eat too much of my time for you to motivate her.
Sorry. Feeding ducks is a traditional thing to do for small children where I live.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Paladino on January 08, 2013, 01:43:42 PM
Ok, I'd like to see The Curupira (but a more original version not the current "good guy" one), he probally fit well as a more darker member of summer...

I doubt anyone will know who this one knows without googling..
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: rekshek on January 08, 2013, 01:48:32 PM
Gandalf, because in some parallel universe he is real darnit, and he is >>>> Merlin!

Tyr, Freya, Heimdall Prometheus.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Second Aristh on January 08, 2013, 01:55:49 PM
A bit more of the Greek pantheon (the Furies would be nice assassins for Zeus ;D )
The Rakshasas that keep getting mentioned!!
How about Puck?  ([WAG] he should be a wyldfae that changes loyalties depending on his master; Puck=Jack Frost if he's Winter or Puck=Robin Goodfellow if he's Summer [/WAG] )
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Cruness on January 08, 2013, 02:12:43 PM
thats likely the erlking, hunting having replaced war in some respects. apollo? sun? summer? summer king? erlking? ::)

Apollo has Sun, Light, intellect, prophecy, and truth among others. Primarily my exposure to Apollo has been as a god of wisdom enlightenment and intellect. The Greek god of of war was Ares.  If he has appeared as one of the immortals I would bet he got rolled into Odin, but I don't see the Erlking as a fit at all.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Socratov on January 08, 2013, 02:30:22 PM
oeh! I thought of a funny one: The Morrigan, 3 for the price of 1  8)

(and they are rumored to battle Medb a.k.a. Maeve, so the way is clear)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: GrandPanjandrum on January 08, 2013, 02:50:39 PM
Themis...the Goddess of Justice.   She's the chick with the sword and the scales wearing a blindfold.  Considering there are statues of her in just about every government building, every law office, and topping stationary everywhere, and she is recognized as well as known throughout the world...she'd be S-T-R-O-N-G.  She'd, also, be merciless.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Electric MacButters on January 08, 2013, 02:51:53 PM
Gandalf, because in some parallel universe he is real darnit, and he is >>>> Merlin!

Tyr, Freya, Heimdall Prometheus.

Personally, I'm pretty sure Heimdall has been in almost every book.  He was/is the watcher, guardian of the bifrost bridge and first line of defense against the invasion of Asgard (and there is a nagging thought in the back of my head that he was only supposed to speak when sounding a warning, but I may well be wrong).  Now who do we know that rarely speaks, has preternatural healing, jokes with Odin, and was called 'the observer' by his enemies?  ;D

I suspect Loki is currently chained in the depths of demonreach; and that he is an outsider who teamed up with Odin to try and pull a long con to bring down the gates (he who walks beside, maybe?)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 08, 2013, 02:57:50 PM
oeh! I thought of a funny one: The Morrigan, 3 for the price of 1  8)

(and they are rumored to battle Medb a.k.a. Maeve, so the way is clear)

cough coughmabsheshereallreadycoughcough
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 08, 2013, 02:58:40 PM
Personally, I'm pretty sure Heimdall has been in almost every book.  He was/is the watcher, guardian of the bifrost bridge and first line of defense against the invasion of Asgard (and there is a nagging thought in the back of my head that he was only supposed to speak when sounding a warning, but I may well be wrong).  Now who do we know that rarely speaks, has preternatural healing, jokes with Odin, and was called 'the observer' by his enemies?  ;D

Being that they are both supposed to sound a horn to signal the end of the world, my current theory is that Heimdall is an aspect of Gabriel.


Id like to see Cain, personally.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: punkinholler on January 08, 2013, 03:03:35 PM
Athena- if numbers of worshippers actualy mean anything, she'd be the second most powerfull god after the WG. either way, could be interesting.

Carmilla. of course, im quazy enough to think shes allready shown up

 ;)

Athena still has worshipers?  I know she's one of the better known greek gods and she's symbolically represented in a lot of places but I didn't realize anyone still literally worshiped her anymore.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 08, 2013, 03:15:49 PM
Athena still has worshipers?  I know she's one of the better known greek gods and she's symbolically represented in a lot of places but I didn't realize anyone still literally worshiped her anymore.

a few hundred thousand or so, as herself. A few million if you get into the 'mantles' as the DF uses the term. But I meant as total worshippers in history.

73 different relgions + thousands of years + most popular pagan goddess in western history = some truly ridiculous numbers
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Second Aristh on January 08, 2013, 03:17:52 PM
Apollo has Sun, Light, intellect, prophecy, and truth among others. Primarily my exposure to Apollo has been as a god of wisdom enlightenment and intellect. The Greek god of of war was Ares.  If he has appeared as one of the immortals I would bet he got rolled into Odin, but I don't see the Erlking as a fit at all.
I like the way that my professor once described Apollo.  The god of everything the Greeks were really proud of (prophecy, healing, light, civilization, etc.)
Ares was the god of war, but mainly the bad aspects of war.  He was the guy that none of the other Olympians really liked (even his daddy Zeus ;D ).  Athena took over the respectable aspects of war.  Once you get to the Romans, Mars was given more respect
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Socratov on January 08, 2013, 03:24:21 PM
cough coughmabsheshereallreadycoughcough
Well, I was more thinking along the lines of Mother Winter revealed. Mab is only 1 aspect of the Morrigan (weirdly enough Maeve, the adversary of the morrigan, is her daughter), maybe mother winter has the other 2...

Oh, and only current worshippers count in power at a given moment. Else stuff gets ridicilous... real fast... It also explains why odin woudl want to take up the mantle of Santa clause and become the king of winter (I mean, that woudl mean consorting with Mab, which is exciting to say the least, never a dull moment) becuase a lot of people (almost the complete western world) believes in Santa in one way or another...

also, does anyone else have the feelign that the lords and gentlemen of Faerie are a lot nicer and reasonable then the ladies? Gruff seems to indicate such sentiments...
I like the way that my professor once described Apollo.  The god of everything the Greeks were really proud of (prophecy, healing, light, civilization, etc.)
Ares was the god of war, but mainly the bad aspects of war.  He was the guy that none of the other Olympians really liked (even his daddy Zeus ;D ).  Athena took over the respectable aspects of war.  Once you get to the Romans, Mars was given more respect
true, however the greatest greek god (and simultaneously the least respected) was Dionysus: God of booze, booty and paaartay! I totally see Molly worshipping him by doing the one woman rave  8)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Lind on January 08, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
Pele or any of the many things in Hawaiian legend.  Having Jim dig around and play with some of the mythology from where I grew up if he ever writes the Murphy/Kincaid in Hawaii story would make me very happy.

Frankenstein's creature, the Golem, Talos, etc.  I would love to see Jim's take on artificially constructed beings with minds of their own.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: robertltux on January 08, 2013, 03:36:13 PM
I would like to see Jims version of Tinkerbell (since my other picks have been taken)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: punkinholler on January 08, 2013, 03:38:17 PM
a few hundred thousand or so, as herself. A few million if you get into the 'mantles' as the DF uses the term. But I meant as total worshippers in history.

73 different relgions + thousands of years + most popular pagan goddess in western history = some truly ridiculous numbers

My word, you've got to be one of the most historically knowledgeable people I've ever encountered :-)

I see what you mean, though. I was thinking of it the way Neil Gaiman portrays the issue wherein only the number of current people who actually worship a particular deity makes a difference in their power base. However, now that I think about it, I agree that that total historical numbers would matter in the DV, at least in terms of the Oblivion War, since Athena is very unlikely to be forgotten about any time soon.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Second Aristh on January 08, 2013, 03:41:09 PM
My word, you've got to be one of the most historically knowledgeable people I've ever encountered :-)
Not only history.  The Lady Duck knows science and math too.  It just isn't fair ;D
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: punkinholler on January 08, 2013, 03:47:56 PM
Not only history.  The Lady Duck knows science and math too.  It just isn't fair ;D

Well I suppose we can't all be polymaths  ;)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 08, 2013, 04:10:57 PM
Awwwwwwwwww im blushing

(for for a duck is kinda wierd)

Thank yOU @!!

(hugs)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: lt_murgen on January 08, 2013, 04:42:21 PM
I would like to see Jims version of Tinkerbell (since my other picks have been taken)

I think we have met her.  She was leading the charge to kill Harry in Winter Knight.  After all, Toot-toot and the rest do seem like lost boys....
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: mithrandirthewhite on January 08, 2013, 04:53:29 PM
About the Morrigan, isn't Maeve suppose to be one of the aspects of the Morrigan, and also I believe Jim said that Mab's character was based off of the Morrigan as a whole. Considering CD, it still works.  I love Irish Mythology.

Also, i want to see the Fir Bolgs and Lugh.  Or at least Lugh's spear.  THat thing is ridiculous
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: hamlet on January 08, 2013, 04:59:59 PM
Quetzoquoatle (and I know I spelled it wrong), the last great dragon who turns out to be an ally in the BAT.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 08, 2013, 05:00:49 PM
Id like to meet an actual Saint, if any still survive.  Saint George would be especially cool (hopefully in the book where we see Ferrovax again).  And any of the curse immortals from the christian mythos, like Longinus or Cain
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: mithrandirthewhite on January 08, 2013, 05:04:49 PM
The problem with Saints is that you meet them all posthumously.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 08, 2013, 05:07:23 PM
Why?  Most of them do quite a bit while still kicking around, from slaying dragons to cursing poor irish families to become furry killing machines. 
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: mithrandirthewhite on January 08, 2013, 05:09:40 PM
You only get the title of Saint after you are dead.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 08, 2013, 05:17:53 PM
Well sure in the real world, because its a church procedure and they dont want to have a Saint fall off the Holy wagon.  But in a world where angels can hand out magic swords and go working miracles directly through people, there are other avenues to achieving the necessary requirements.  In fact, from what I can tell, every Knight of the Cross seems to qualify pretty well.   
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: mithrandirthewhite on January 08, 2013, 05:24:57 PM
I would personally go with holy man rather then saint.  I know it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, but it fits definitions better.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 08, 2013, 06:30:00 PM
I would personally go with holy man rather then saint.  I know it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, but it fits definitions better.
How so, apart from the whole still being alive thing?
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: prince lotore on January 08, 2013, 06:38:11 PM
I would like to see Longinus brought into the mix hopefully with his spear.  we have the nails from the cross, we have judas' noose why not the spear.  Longinus was said to be cursed with imortality so he could still be around.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: SAZ on January 08, 2013, 07:19:24 PM
It would be a great inside joke… Perhaps JB will elevate one or two of this forums more colorful posters to godhood.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Second Aristh on January 08, 2013, 08:45:25 PM
It would be a great inside joke… Perhaps JB will elevate one or two of this forums more colorful posters to godhood.
The Lady Duck is already Mab.  What more do you want? ;D
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 08, 2013, 08:47:59 PM
The Lady Duck is already Mab.  What more do you want? ;D

Shhhh thats a secret !  (hugs)

and hey, wasnt the villains in WN named Helen and Priscilla?

 8)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 08, 2013, 08:52:40 PM
Personally I thought Harry's mention of accidentally turning himself into a duck if he tried shapeshifting was a nod to our resident brain bleach poet :)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: jbevermore on January 08, 2013, 09:21:27 PM
It's hard to say. I dearly love Abrahmic mythology and anything to do with angels/the denarians. But Jim can't pull from that well to much without creating a firestorm of controversy. Much easier to deal with cthulu monsters and old pantheons.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: King Ash on January 08, 2013, 09:48:21 PM
Artemis goddess of the hunt. I've got a WAG that the Erlking is actually Orion the hunter so that would be interesting to see Jim's would take on that.
Also Hercules as he was always my favourite hero.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: KurtinStGeorge on January 09, 2013, 03:58:41 AM
not so much as hot, but more..cute by modern standards.

short, brown hair, lesbain, obsessive about her love interests, capable of walking in daylight, can pass for human, change her shape..

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,32663.msg1452338.html#msg1452338 (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,32663.msg1452338.html#msg1452338)

I was thinking of Yutte Stensgaard as Carmilla in Lust for a Vampire (1971).  I guess I have learned more of my mythology from Hammer movies and the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show than school.

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u534/WolfXVB1/11457317_ori_zps57b4746b.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u534/WolfXVB1/yutte-stensgaard_zps2ce7cc52.jpg)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 09, 2013, 03:59:34 AM
I was thinking of Yutte Stensgaard as Carmilla in Lust for a Vampire (1971).  I guess I have learned more of my mythology from Hammer movies and the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show than school.

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u534/WolfXVB1/11457317_ori_zps57b4746b.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u534/WolfXVB1/yutte-stensgaard_zps2ce7cc52.jpg)

yea thats a famous case of movie != book. lol
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: HistoryDave on January 09, 2013, 04:18:06 AM
The stage is getting pretty crowded/  If Jim brings in another diety, I hope it is one who has been incognito but an established character.  I like the Heimdall/Mac theory, I got the impression Mac was someone of importance who left the fight for a quiet place on the sidelines. 
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: KurtinStGeorge on January 09, 2013, 04:46:10 AM
Thinking about Carmilla again.  If; and I know its a big if, Jim wanted to bring lesbian vampires into the story, there is no reason he would have to limit himself to characters from literature.  I think Fran and Miriam from Vampyres AKA Daughters of Dracula (1974) would be great choices.

(If you rent this don't watch it with your kids, it borders on soft core porn.  However, it is a real horror film with some really messed up scenes in it.  Great to watch in the dark.)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u534/WolfXVB1/uhlUeUeVGYRlFpwQNMDFri8tLCZ_zps5e807b2a.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u534/WolfXVB1/vampyres-1974-01-g_zpse3e4bf48.jpg)


Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 09, 2013, 06:09:38 AM
Thinking about Carmilla again.  If; and I know its a big if, Jim wanted to bring lesbian vampires into the story, there is no reason he would have to limit himself to characters from literature.  I think Fran and Miriam from Vampyres AKA Daughters of Dracula (1974) would be great choices.

(If you rent this don't watch it with your kids, it borders on soft core porn.  However, it is a real horror film with some really messed up scenes in it.  Great to watch in the dark.)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u534/WolfXVB1/uhlUeUeVGYRlFpwQNMDFri8tLCZ_zps5e807b2a.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u534/WolfXVB1/vampyres-1974-01-g_zpse3e4bf48.jpg)

into the genre? we allready have Bianca, Lara, and Lea...
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: LeviathanZero on January 09, 2013, 06:29:47 AM
The stage is getting pretty crowded/  If Jim brings in another diety, I hope it is one who has been incognito but an established character.  I like the Heimdall/Mac theory, I got the impression Mac was someone of importance who left the fight for a quiet place on the sidelines.

Well holy bonkers. I was going to post Heimdall, somehow I didn't even think of the idea that he's Mac. That's a pretty danged perfect fit, and would be awesome to see :D
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Socratov on January 09, 2013, 06:35:49 AM
into the genre? we allready have Bianca, Lara, and Lea...
Lea I guess falls under the general "ladies of winter screw anything that moves" vibe that seems to be going on... But then again, huddling up for cold nights is an excellent way to stay alive in winter :D
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: KurtinStGeorge on January 09, 2013, 08:03:33 AM
into the genre? we allready have Bianca, Lara, and Lea...

Other than Lara devouring Madeline; which was more cannibalistic than anything else, is there proof she swings both ways?  Did I miss a inference or innuendo in one of the books?
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Socratov on January 09, 2013, 08:08:46 AM
Other than Lara devouring Madeline; which was more cannibalistic than anything else, is there proof she swings both ways?  Did I miss a inference or innuendo in one of the books?
well, the whoel thing that the WCV invented girl on girl is hot, and I believe she made quite an entrance the first time we saw her... Though I am not sure for the time being...
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: huangjimmy108 on January 09, 2013, 08:26:08 AM
I defenitely want Shiva to appear. The Hindu god of destruction. Preferably as one of Demonreach's prisoner whom Harry needs to talk to or make bargains with.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: TheCuriousFan on January 09, 2013, 08:45:03 AM
Other than Lara devouring Madeline; which was more cannibalistic than anything else, is there proof she swings both ways?  Did I miss a inference or innuendo in one of the books?

She tried to get Luccio into bed in Turn Coat, and IIRC her partners in Backup were women.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Warden_JP on January 09, 2013, 09:01:13 AM
Greek: Zeus and his brother's Poseidon and Hades
Roman: Mars, the Roman's turned Zeus and Hera's son into one worthy of his father. Mars was a soldier and a general. Ares was simply a monster...and often and coward.
Egyptian: Ra, Horus: as a constituent of Odin if they don't have to be at odds. He was a war god in addition to being god of the sky, and his warrior aspect is what helped him win the throne. perhaps he would be interested in someone like Ramirez
Norse: Thor and Loki, the comics helped. Thor from mythology needed allot more work.
Japanese: Raiden (played allot of MK)

I'd be interested in how Jim would deal with any of the preceding
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Arjan on January 09, 2013, 09:44:14 AM
She tried to get Luccio into bed in Turn Coat, and IIRC her partners in Backup were women.
IIRC According to Thomas most white court vampires eat both sexes. Papa Raith. Was an exception.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 09, 2013, 01:27:50 PM
Other than Lara devouring Madeline; which was more cannibalistic than anything else, is there proof she swings both ways?  Did I miss a inference or innuendo in one of the books?

according to thomas, while she eats men, she prefers women for company. it sin the short story. and she flirted with Murphy and Anna
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 09, 2013, 01:52:24 PM
according to thomas, while she eats men, she prefers women for company. it sin the short story. and she flirted with Murphy and Anna
Which short story?  All I can find is that she isnt very discriminating, like most of the White Court.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: TheCuriousFan on January 09, 2013, 04:43:59 PM
Which short story?  All I can find is that she isnt very discriminating, like most of the White Court.

Backup.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 09, 2013, 04:49:37 PM
Backup.
ya, that was my guess, but I just read through Backup and cant find anything that states an actual preference.  Do you have a quote?
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: TheCuriousFan on January 09, 2013, 06:04:50 PM
ya, that was my guess, but I just read through Backup and cant find anything that states an actual preference.  Do you have a quote?

Quote
I could hear other soft sounds in the background, and another voice. A woman. Maybe two. Most of my family isn’t what you’d call particular, when it comes to feeding on mortals.

Closest I could find to a quote about her preferences. But then, I only said Backup since it's the only thing in Side Jobs that could have the information about Lara's tastes.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 09, 2013, 06:14:09 PM
thats the one, but theres annother i recall that says she prefers females, shes not bi. i looked thru backup, ill have to check elsewhere. maybe im misremebering
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: danbuter on January 09, 2013, 06:15:14 PM
I'd love to see Coyote and Raven show up, but they are used heavily by Charles de Lint, so Jim may want to avoid them.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 09, 2013, 06:16:48 PM
I'd love to see Coyote and Raven show up, but they are used heavily by Charles de Lint, so Jim may want to avoid them.

not to mention patricia briggs..
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Arjan on January 09, 2013, 06:17:37 PM
thats the one, but theres annother i recall that says she prefers females, shes not bi. i looked thru backup, ill have to check elsewhere. maybe im misremebering
She was very interested in Ramirez. I think she is an omnivore ;D
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 09, 2013, 06:19:18 PM
She was very interested in Ramirez. I think she is an omnivore ;D

either way the DF allready has female vampires who snack on other females.   8)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ulfgeir on January 09, 2013, 06:22:15 PM
She was very interested in Ramirez. I think she is an omnivore ;D

And I absolutley love one of his aspects in the DFRPG...  "I am not food"

Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Socratov on January 09, 2013, 06:34:44 PM
She was very interested in Ramirez. I think she is an omnivore ;D
I think it's more of a thing of virgins tasting better then those who are not ;) (good luck getting that reference)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: SAZ on January 09, 2013, 06:37:47 PM
Ok, she is a figure from more contemporary mythology, but how about Frau Blücher? In Young Frankenstein we never find out why at the mention of her name horses get frightened and sometimes thunder claps. Perhaps other animals also make scared noises around the mention of her name?

I suspect that she could be a BC Elder.

But sadly, I suppose, copyright issues might prevent seeing her in the DFs.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 09, 2013, 06:39:28 PM
Ok, she is a figure from more contemporary mythology, but how about Frau Blücher? In Young Frankenstein we never find out why at the mention of her name horses get frightened and sometimes thunder claps. Perhaps other animals also make scared noises around the mention of her name?

I suspect that she could be a BC Elder.

But sadly, I suppose, copyright issues might prevent seeing her in the DFs.

and here i allways thought it was a 'ride the horsey' joke :)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Rasins on January 09, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Since we are talking about MYTHOLOGICAL FIGURES, I'd LOVE to see Ms Duck in the series.

I'm not going to share my vision at this time.

 8)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 09, 2013, 07:01:49 PM
Since we are talking about MYTHOLOGICAL FIGURES, I'd LOVE to see Ms Duck in the series.

I'm not going to share my vision at this time.

 8)

(snort)

 ;D

Where.

Are.

My.

Worshippers???!!
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: TheCuriousFan on January 09, 2013, 07:04:06 PM
(snort)

 ;D

Where.

Are.

My.

Worshippers???!!

Spread out over the forum? >:D
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Rasins on January 09, 2013, 07:07:21 PM
(snort)

 ;D

Where.

Are.

My.

Worshippers???!!
Hey I was a convert a long time ago when you took a sabbatical.  I'd heard about your Harry/Mavra stories and LOVED them.

But if you cannot poke fun at those you worship, what's the point?
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 09, 2013, 07:10:13 PM
Hey I was a convert a long time ago when you took a sabbatical.  I'd heard about your Harry/Mavra stories and LOVED them.

But if you cannot poke fun at those you worship, what's the point?

(HUGS)

I just had a horrible idea.. ever read Blue Adept? A wizard who cast spells by rhyming..

now imagine harry has to fight a Black Court Limmeriicker  ::)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Rasins on January 09, 2013, 07:13:08 PM
(HUGS)

I just had a horrible idea.. ever read Blue Adept? A wizard who cast spells by rhyming..

now imagine harry has to fight a Black Court Limmeriicker  ::)
Actually I did read it.  But that was like 25 years ago.  I do recall something about it.  Split worlds or something.

Anyway, I think it would be funny if he had to rhym IN OLD ENGLISH.  Now there's a challenge for Jim.   
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 09, 2013, 07:21:34 PM
just remember 'y' is pronounced 'th' and youll be fine
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Socratov on January 09, 2013, 07:25:06 PM
(snort)

 ;D

Where.

Are.

My.

Worshippers???!!
Well, I'd say everyone making an effort to create Mavra themed erotic poetry has to some extent made a pilgrimage in your honor  ;D
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Arjan on January 09, 2013, 07:28:26 PM
Well, I'd say everyone making an effort to create Mavra themed erotic poetry has to some extent made a pilgrimage in your honor  ;D
And reading it is an act of worship :)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: The Reaver on January 09, 2013, 07:42:13 PM
Morrigan. Seems she'd have enough worshipers and name recognition to still be around, even if not as powerful as before.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Socratov on January 09, 2013, 08:39:26 PM
And reading it is an act of worship :)
reciting it is an act of prayer, reading it is a test of sanityfaith :p
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 09, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SStEosTqsBo/Seb2ekC_mnI/AAAAAAAAADU/aTHZlwA4jIM/S1600-R/happy+duck.jpg)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: SAZ on January 09, 2013, 09:35:02 PM
??! 

I've lost my link to the Marva/Harry erotica. Could someone please provide it, I was going to inflect it onto a fan I know who isn't on this forum.

Thanks much
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 09, 2013, 09:36:23 PM
??! 

I've lost my link to the Marva/Harry erotica. Could someone please provide it, I was going to inflect it onto a fan I know who isn't on this forum.

Thanks much

here is part 2, part one i dont think exists anymore

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19209.0.html (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19209.0.html)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: TheCuriousFan on January 09, 2013, 09:36:33 PM
??! 

I've lost my link to the Marva/Harry erotica. Could someone please provide it, I was going to inflect it onto a fan I know who isn't on this forum.

Thanks much

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19209.0.html

Here you go, inflict away.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: SAZ on January 09, 2013, 09:40:17 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Socratov on January 09, 2013, 09:42:11 PM
mind you, the mavra poetry is smeared over the whole thread, not just page 9 (I thought it was page 9 where it started in this incursion)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 09, 2013, 09:46:54 PM
Im just sad the original threa dis gone, Blaze's Harry Dresden xmas short is classic.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: 123456789blaaa on January 09, 2013, 10:15:17 PM
You know what I'd like to see?

A Nuckelavee.

(http://bogleech.com/nuckelavee/n-feathwurmgraphics-dotcom.jpg)

(http://www.bogleech.com/nuckelavee/kitsune-nuck1.jpg)

(http://bogleech.com/nuckelavee/n-DA-slithercat.jpg)

(http://www.bogleech.com/nuckelavee/sone22.jpg)

(http://bogleech.com/nuckelavee/n-John-Pesando.jpg)

Quote
To many people, the word "fairy" immediately calls to mind a delicate, liliputian woman with an insect's wings, flitting like a butterfly in a trail of sparkling pixie dust; a guardian angel at best and mischievious at worst, they turn our teeth into spare change, turn our puppets into children and sell Disney merchandise like hotcakes. Of course, in proper usage, "fairy" (originally "fae") is a blanket term for a whole culture's worth of supernatural beings, including gnomes, dwarves, goblins, trolls, and far stranger, sometimes horrifying monsters. One such example is known as the Nucklavee, Nucklavis or Nuckelavee; a gruesome Scottish legend as far removed from Tinkerbell as one could possibly get.
 
An almost god-like force of destruction and hatred, this particular "fairy" was said to haunt the waters surrounding the 70 Orkney islands, where its very name is still considered unlucky by the superstitious. Invisible and intangible in the sea, it assumed a body only upon breaking the water's surface; a form described by local fables in nightmarish detail. The being was sometimes horse-like, sometimes man-like, but most famously a fusion of both; a legless "rider" growing directly from the back of his horrendous "mount." Whatever the shape, the Nuckelavee's most terrible and single consistent feature was its completely skinless appearance, with pulsing veins and raw muscles plainly exposed.
 
Though the creature was said to be tremendous in size, its actual proportions were bizarrely mismatched. The humanoid's head was supposedly so large that it rolled from one shoulder to the other on a seemingly useless neck, and its oversized hands dragged along the ground at the ends of long, gangly arms. One or both heads - especially the horse - were said to bear only a single, fiery eye. The horse's legs were rather vaguely described as being "part flipper," fully flipper-like or accompanied by fin-like projections. Its mouth, or mouths, were huge and gaping, with hideous teeth and fetid, filthy breath that struck all living things with disease.
 
Plague, famine, drought and catastrophes of every sort were blamed on this insidious entity, whose powers ran as deep as its undying spite for mankind. The harvesting and burning of seaweed was said to especially infuriate the Nuckelavee, who would strike the island's horses with a deadly disease known as mortasheen. (And now you know where that word came from...) Only two things kept the Nuckelavee under control: an aversion to touching or even crossing fresh water, and a more benevolent spirit known as "Mither O' the Sea" or "Sea Mother," able to lift the curse of mortasheen and drive the demon back to the briny depths.

(above description from Bogleech.com)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Anthony on January 09, 2013, 11:03:02 PM
Some mythical persons that I would like to see. As most historical charakters are dead, the choise is somewhat limited.They have to be monsters, supernatural beings, have powers or "immortals". I added some suggestions how he/she could be used  ;) :

Black Pete/Krampus: evil sidekick to Santa Clause (Imagine him showing up to give orders/news to Dresden)
The lady of the Lake: Arthurian folklore (would make a great handmaiden to the new Winter or Summer Lady)
Frau Holle: Germanic lore. Truthfully, I believe we have already seen her (Mother winter)  ;D
Gilgamesj: Sumerian king/hero, Wise & powerful. (the true identity of Rashid)
Hafgufa: A giant sea monster from Germanic lore (I can see him attacking Demonreach)
The walking Jew: Christian mythology, Cursed to walk the earth for taunting Jesus (Perhaps he is trying to redeem himself so he helps the knights of the cross or thinks a sword will give him salvation so he tries to steal one)
Sir Galahad: Arthurian knight that found the Grail (perhaps picking up a sword again)
Maria: Mother of Jesus. (comforting Michael Carpenter after he hears his daughter was lost to the WG)
Nicholas Flamel: Great alchemist and the maker of the philosophers stone. But after featuring in a story with that other wizard named Harry, perhaps not likely. (Beer makers are also alchemists right?  ;D )

Lets see if any will show up later on... ;)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: TheCuriousFan on January 09, 2013, 11:14:33 PM
I'd like to see some Dullahan at some point. And an in-depth look at the Svartalves would be nice.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: 123456789blaaa on January 09, 2013, 11:22:57 PM
I wonder what type of Fae the Nuckelavee is a Sidhe of (I'm assuming it's a Sidhe because all the extremely powerfull Fae we've been shown are Sidhe). Is it even a Fae? It doesn't seem to share any traits in common with the Fae as described in the Dresdenverse, maybe in-universe people were just confused?
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: King Ash on January 10, 2013, 02:39:18 AM
I wonder what type of Fae the Nuckelavee is a Sidhe of (I'm assuming it's a Sidhe because all the extremely powerfull Fae we've been shown are Sidhe). Is it even a Fae? It doesn't seem to share any traits in common with the Fae as described in the Dresdenverse, maybe in-universe people were just confused?

The Erlking is an extremely powerful fae but refers to sidhe as being an entirely different group of beings than himself. I think Sidhe are only those high ranking members of the two Courts.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ben de Wal on January 10, 2013, 02:48:55 AM
does gangalf count?
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: KurtinStGeorge on January 10, 2013, 03:26:43 AM
I thought a Golem might be a tough character for Harry to deal with, not being alive and without the weaknesses of human zombies, but a friend has told me that Terry Pratchett has already used more than one Golem in his books.  Jim could still use one, but have to do so in a different way.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: TheCuriousFan on January 10, 2013, 03:45:46 AM
I thought a Golem might be a tough character for Harry to deal with, not being alive and without the weaknesses of human zombies, but a friend has told me that Terry Pratchett has already used more than one Golem in his books.  Jim could still use one, but have to do so in a different way.

Wouldn't the fact that even before Harry became Winter Knight he was capable of throwing fuegos that would shatter stone make them rather anticlimactic opponents? Unless they've got some noteworthy supernatural toughness and magic resistance going on.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: wizard nelson on January 10, 2013, 03:56:49 AM
Wouldn't the fact that even before Harry became Winter Knight he was capable of throwing fuegos that would shatter stone make them rather anticlimactic opponents? Unless they've got some noteworthy supernatural toughness and magic resistance going on.
one thinks of a temple dog here.. i kinda wanna see mouse smash a temple dog, proving the original is best.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: FireWorks on January 10, 2013, 10:00:16 AM
I defenitely want Shiva to appear. The Hindu god of destruction. Preferably as one of Demonreach's prisoner whom Harry needs to talk to or make bargains with.
I doubt that he's in demonreach. He and Kali are tasked with the purpose of "change" in the universe, we see that everyday in DF. :)
And frankly, I find the idea that he should be restrained in demonreach offensive. Why do people think any pantheon related to destruction or death (like Hades) are "evil"? They're just doing a job, someone has to do it.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: The Reaver on January 10, 2013, 10:38:17 AM
I doubt that he's in demonreach. He and Kali are tasked with the purpose of "change" in the universe, we see that everyday in DF. :)
And frankly, I find the idea that he should be restrained in demonreach offensive. Why do people think any pantheon related to destruction or death (like Hades) are "evil"? They're just doing a job, someone has to do it.

same reason disney always makes them the villain in movies:it allows you to comfortably categorize them without searching for moral ambiguity or exploring the sensitive topic of whether death, suffering and disaster are necessary.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: FireWorks on January 10, 2013, 11:19:00 AM

same reason disney always makes them the villain in movies:it allows you to comfortably categorize them without searching for moral ambiguity or exploring the sensitive topic of whether death, suffering and disaster are necessary.
good point. i see where you're coming from...
however, i'd prefer such worldviews to remain in less intellectually challenging works of art (there are gripes there as well, but i won't get into that)
one thing i absolutely love about the DF world is that it is complex.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Socratov on January 10, 2013, 12:40:09 PM

same reason disney always makes them the villain in movies:it allows you to comfortably categorize them without searching for moral ambiguity or exploring the sensitive topic of whether death, suffering and disaster are necessary.
Well, that's basically the reason I like Pratchett: the subverts the trope and then turns that up to eleven. DEATH is doing a job. Just that. But, his hobby (as far as anthropomorphic concepts can have hobbies) is to become more human, or at least study human behaviour, often resulting in funny moments when peopel meet their end, and soon afterwards, death.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: sociotard on January 10, 2013, 03:03:42 PM
I'd love to see a Kirin (or Qilin, spelling varies because Chinese is hard)

I'd also like to see the Erlking in his role guarding the souls of children.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: wizard nelson on January 10, 2013, 03:21:52 PM
I'd love to see a Kirin (or Qilin, spelling varies because Chinese is hard)

I'd also like to see the Erlking in his role guarding the souls of children.
or eating them in some myths :o seriously though yea, i wanna see erl really cut loose in an entitled way(eg, his responsibility to open a can of whoop ass) as opposed to just leading the hunt. odin too really.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: 123456789blaaa on January 10, 2013, 03:55:36 PM
The Erlking is an extremely powerful fae but refers to sidhe as being an entirely different group of beings than himself. I think Sidhe are only those high ranking members of the two Courts.

Does he? I thought Erl was a goblin Sidhe just like [CD Spoilers]
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Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 10, 2013, 04:33:18 PM
Does he? I thought Erl was a goblin Sidhe just like [CD Spoilers]
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You are confusing terms.  Goblins, Sidhe, and Malks are different all types of Fae, but are distinct from each other.  Cait Sith, nor any other malks, are ever referred to a Sidhe.  Sidhe are the beautiful human looking ones.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: TheCuriousFan on January 10, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
You are confusing terms.  Goblins, Sidhe, and Malks are different all types of Fae, but are distinct from each other.  Cait Sith, nor any other malks, are ever referred to a Sidhe.  Sidhe are the beautiful human looking ones.

*readies rpg quotes about Santa, Grimalkin the Malk and Eldest Brother Gruff and quotes about the whole Side thing in general*
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 10, 2013, 04:41:13 PM
*awaits said quotes since Im not very familiar with the RPG text*
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Electric MacButters on January 10, 2013, 04:48:39 PM
I want to see Harry team up with the Flying Spagetti Monster.  8)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: TheCuriousFan on January 10, 2013, 04:52:21 PM
*awaits said quotes since Im not very familiar with the RPG text*

Here you go.

Grimalkin quotes:

Quote from: Our World Page 152
Grimalkin is a Sidhe of the malks (pages 49 and 47) of faerie-kind and a member of the Winter Court.

Quote from: Our World Page 47
Grimalkin (see page 152), of Maeve’s Court, may be a Sidhe of malk-lineage.

Santa quote:

Quote from: Our World Page 50
The “Wyld Courts”: There are a couple powerful Sidhe on par with the Faerie Queens—the Erlking is one of them, and it’s rumored—DON’T LAUGH!—that Santa Claus (a brownie Sidhe) may be another.

Eldest Brother Gruff quote:

Quote from: Our World Page 151
I wonder if Eldest is a gruff Sidhe. Seems likely.

Sidhe quote:

Quote from: Our World Page 20
Sidhe

Among the faerie, Sidhe is a state of being that is somewhat political and somewhat biological. A Sidhe has all of the abilities of its faerie type, raised to greater heights of power. The Sidhe are the aristocracy of Faerie, and that mindset must be considered when dealing with them, regardless of which Court—or no Court—they are associated with.

And a reasonably relevant WoJ.

Quote
#150 Is Toot-toot’s increase in size due to his actions, or the title and followers he has acquired doing Harry’s bidding?”
It’s due to /Harry’s/ actions, mostly. Toot done hitched his star to Harry’s wagon. As a result, he’s taken actions he never would have taken on his own, some of which had major consequences. Toot has effectively become a much more powerful being than he was as an independent dewdrop faerie. The physical growth is a reflection of that fact.
I mean gosh, where do you think the Sidhe came from in the first place?

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,21772.msg947681.html#msg947681
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 10, 2013, 05:15:21 PM
'aoi sie' = people under the mounds; 'sidhe' the contraction,lit means mounds. it refers to the entire class of 'noble fey'.

what is and isnt one may be a bit fluid. traditionaly, it meant the celtic gods; later, it got thrown in with fae, faerie, elves...

what connection exists between the 'sidhe' and the 'vanir' (their equivalent in the eddas) if any in the DF has yet to be clear.

IMO, its quite possible Jim may not have a specific rule of who is and who isnt one; as the mythology itself is rather muddled
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 10, 2013, 05:17:50 PM
Damn that's interesting, because it directly contradicts the usage of the term Sidhe everywhere in the actual books.  That makes it sound like "Sidhe" denotes status among any given type of fae creature, whereas the books refer to the Sidhe as a particular type, though granted they are a particular type that is in charge of the Courts. 
Quote from: DB
"The being you ask me about [The Erlking] is to goblins as I am to the Sidhe. A ruler. A master of their kind. Devious, cunning, strong, and swift. He wields dominion over the spirits of fallen hunters."

Quote from: PG
a member of the Sidhe, a tall, inhumanly lovely woman, her appearance one of nigh perfection.

Quote from: SK
These are the Sidhe. They're some of the most beautiful creatures there are.
Quote from: SK
Her blond hair cleared out to Sidhe white
Aurora turned to me, as fast as any of the other Sidhe,
(indicates specific physical characteristics attributed to Sidhe)



Although to be fair in many places back in SK, Sidhe and Fae are used completely interchangeably, without any distinction of type /or/ status, though it is always used to indicate the Courts rather than any WyldFae. 

Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 10, 2013, 05:29:44 PM
Damn that's interesting, because it directly contradicts the usage of the term Sidhe everywhere in the actual books.  That makes it sound like "Sidhe" denotes status among any given type of fae creature, whereas the books refer to the Sidhe as a particular type, though granted they are a particular type that is in charge of the Courts.   (indicates specific physical characteristics attributed to Sidhe)



Although to be fair in many places back in SK, Sidhe and Fae are used completely interchangeably, without any distinction of type /or/ status, though it is always used to indicate the Courts rather than any WyldFae.

this is where woj, if we ever get some, comes in. The books are harrys pov, and somewhat edited. the rpg is will's writing. both are deliberately 'flawed narrators'.

Iago once noted that the prg should be considered 'an alternate universe' to the books, as changes had to be made.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Socratov on January 10, 2013, 07:51:36 PM
Besides, if the Sidhe are the nobles of Fearie, who says that goblins are noble? I mean the Erlking might just not be a noble, but a very powerful fey ruling over the 'commoners' i.e. goblins...
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Arjan on January 10, 2013, 08:01:27 PM
Besides, if the Sidhe are the nobles of Fearie, who says that goblins are noble? I mean the Erlking might just not be a noble, but a very powerful fey ruling over the 'commoners' i.e. goblins...
Which makes him a king, a noble. Being noble is about power.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 10, 2013, 08:02:43 PM
Besides, if the Sidhe are the nobles of Fearie, who says that goblins are noble? I mean the Erlking might just not be a noble, but a very powerful fey ruling over the 'commoners' i.e. goblins...
Well, in the usage of the books the Sidhe are the Noble of Summer and Winter, but it was also indicated that they were a ruling race, rather than "Sidhe" being a term to denote Power; for example, Mab first introduces herself as Queen of the Winter Court of Sidhe.  The Erlking is the Top Dog of the Goblins, but is still a Wyldfae and outside of the political Court structure. 
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: 123456789blaaa on January 11, 2013, 12:21:42 AM
As you said Quantus "in many places back in SK, Sidhe and Fae are used completely interchangeably, without any distinction of type /or/ status". The most probable explanation here is that Jim changed his mind later on in the series (SK was pretty early after all).

I don't get why them being beautiful contradicts them beings like Cat Sith being among them. Cat Sith is probably pretty hot...if you're a malk  ;).

My interpretation is that the Sidhe are exemplars and rulers of their particular Fae type,  so there's only one Sidhe of each type. Looking back on the quotes this seems less likely.

I think that Mab and Lea are Sidhe Little Folk. This fits with this WoJ:

Quote
Q:  How big will Toot get?
A:  Depends on how much influence he has in the world.  That’s how the sidhe gain their size and power.  Mab wasn’t always as big as she is now.

Mab was also (to my knowledge) first mentioned in Romeo and Juliet in the speech by Mercutio. He says she's "In shape no bigger than an agate-stone" (The full speech:
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Although Mab is supposed to have been the only Winter Queen and the Fae are supposed to be ancient so...

Also, here is another WoJ that plainly states that Little Folk can become Sidhe:

Quote
With all the things Toot Toot and the Za Lord's guard have done that made a difference, and with Toot getting bigger, is that going to upset the balance in the Summer court?
The answer is no, because they are not Summer anyway, they are wildfae.  And everybody over in summer is going to blame Harry for everything they do.  They regard them as a tool and Harry is the guy holding it.  Harry would tell you that he's probably the tool but...  Anyway Toot Toot's been growing because that's where the Sidhe came from to begin with.  They weren't always all tall and glamorous, they kind of got that way. 


EDIT: In Cold Days
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Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: mrbrinks on January 11, 2013, 01:00:20 AM
Loki - Harry has to repay Odin somehow. I could see Jim having A LOT of fun with him.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ben de Wal on January 11, 2013, 01:05:45 AM


I think that Mab and Lea are Sidhe Little Folk. This fits with this WoJ:

M
Although Mab is supposed to have been the only Winter Queen and the Fae are supposed to be ancient so...

Also, here is another WoJ that plainly states that Little Folk can become Sidhe:
 

EDIT: In Cold Days
(click to show/hide)
  but mab can make her self as big or as little as she wants
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: mithrandirthewhite on January 11, 2013, 05:10:34 PM
For Mab's statement about being ruler of the Sidhe could be that her court is soley the nobility of the Unseelie and Fae of greater power, with Lady having more influence over the Little Folk and lesser Fae.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 11, 2013, 05:13:45 PM
ill have to dig about it, but someone asked Jim once about the Mab/shakespeare connection and he laughed it off, noting that Mab is much older then shakespeare.

furthermore, Mab says she was mortal once in CD
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Carnifex:Pacifex on January 11, 2013, 05:19:24 PM
Considering the Fomor popping up all over the place. I would like to see more Lovecraftian baddies (Cthulhu mythos monsters).
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 11, 2013, 05:27:40 PM
Considering the Fomor popping up all over the place. I would like to see more Lovecraftian baddies (Cthulhu mythos monsters).

deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep onnes. any resemblance between them and the fomor is just coincidence im sure
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: 123456789blaaa on January 11, 2013, 06:33:31 PM
  but mab can make her self as big or as little as she wants

She can nowadays. Who knows about back when she was less powerfull...

ill have to dig about it, but someone asked Jim once about the Mab/shakespeare connection and he laughed it off, noting that Mab is much older then shakespeare.

furthermore, Mab says she was mortal once in CD

Er I can't tell if you're replying to me or not...
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 11, 2013, 06:48:42 PM
She can nowadays. Who knows about back when she was less powerfull...

Er I can't tell if you're replying to me or not...

I was. just pointing out that Mab(shakespeare) != Mab (butcher). Mab (butcher) much more related to Mab (original)

Serack, do you have the woj where someone asks Jim about the bill the bard Mab?
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: 123456789blaaa on January 11, 2013, 07:23:09 PM
I was. just pointing out that Mab(shakespeare) != Mab (butcher). Mab (butcher) much more related to Mab (original)

Serack, do you have the woj where someone asks Jim about the bill the bard Mab?

I think you missed my EDIT of the post:

Quote
EDIT: In Cold Days
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The wikipedia entry on Mab says she was first mentioned by Shakespeare. Do you know where she was mentioned before that?
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: mithrandirthewhite on January 11, 2013, 07:43:13 PM
Mab is an alternate name for an aspect of the Morrigan.

http://voices.yahoo.com/the-morrigan-celtic-goddess-battle-death-fate-and-8533559.html?cat=37 (http://voices.yahoo.com/the-morrigan-celtic-goddess-battle-death-fate-and-8533559.html?cat=37)

But since Celti mythology ties more knots than the Summers Family Tree who truly knows anymore?
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 11, 2013, 07:45:45 PM
I think you missed my EDIT of the post:

The wikipedia entry on Mab says she was first mentioned by Shakespeare. Do you know where she was mentioned before that?

the name is a more modern spelling of  maeb, which is also the name for morgawse

shes from 1st century bc celtic myhtology, the goddess of war and magic; in some variants shes a part of the morrigan

Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Arjan on January 11, 2013, 07:53:22 PM
the name is a more modern spelling of  maeb, which is also the name for morgawse

shes from 1st century bc celtic myhtology, the goddess of war and magic; in some variants shes a part of the morrigan
They all come from old Irish Medb, the queen of Connaught.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medb

I always thought it funny that Mab's daughter Maeve just had a more modern version of her own name.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 11, 2013, 08:07:01 PM
They all come from old Irish Medb, the queen of Connaught.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medb

I always thought it funny that Mab's daughter Maeve just had a more modern version of her own name.

they are two sepperate entities with simillar names in the mythology; one is a goddess, the other legendary queen
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: mithrandirthewhite on January 11, 2013, 08:13:43 PM
Though the queen was likely inspired by the goddess.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 11, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
certainly possible. or it could just be coinicidence; its very common in  many cultures for persons to have simillar names or relgiously associated ones

'joshua, eli, elijah, ellia...'
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Arjan on January 11, 2013, 08:25:18 PM
they are two sepperate entities with simillar names in the mythology; one is a goddess, the other legendary queen
It looks like the name Maeb was also one of spellings of the queen of Connaught's name.  The queen is far more often mentioned.

There are theories that Medb was the goddess ritually married with the king.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 11, 2013, 08:27:29 PM
It looks like the name Maeb was also one of spellings of the queen of Connaught's name.  The queen is far more often mentioned.

There are theories that Medb was the goddess ritually married with the king.

later connections include Morgawse as 'the queen of the isle' as well as 'the queen of air and darkness' related to maeves 'queen of the north'

mytholgy. lets be honest folks; its millenia of fan fic.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Oddball on January 12, 2013, 02:00:44 AM
I'd like to see an interaction between krampus, harry, and santa. That would be fun to read. Also is Krampus a distinct entity or a mask like odin with santa, if so who's behind the mask.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: mithrandirthewhite on January 12, 2013, 07:51:58 AM
Or maybe Krampus held the mantal before Kringle, or stole the mantle from Kringle for a time.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: gospelmage on January 12, 2013, 12:48:27 PM
hmm...what if Listens-to-Wind is actually Coyote?  A shapeshifting trickster god. LTW is the best shapeshifter Harry knows of.
another theory would be what if Coyote is Loki? 
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Arjan on January 12, 2013, 01:26:07 PM
hmm...what if Listens-to-Wind is actually Coyote?  A shapeshifting trickster god. LTW is the best shapeshifter Harry knows of.
another theory would be what if Coyote is Loki?
If Listens t Wind was CoyoteI would expect some of it to show in his character.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Dave Mallonee on January 12, 2013, 08:07:04 PM
There are a lot of names already mentioned that I would second; Black Peter/Krampus (which could be a mantle someone else wears), Surtr (I'm really more familiar with the Marvel version, how different is he?) , the Nuckalavee (never heard of it but the pictures were freaky and the description made it sound like something I would enjoy seeing Harry freak out about dealing with), Athena (absolutely, especially if the Parasite/Lash thing plays out in anything like her birth from Zeus's head), Coyote, Pele (which would hopefully finally get us that Murphy/ Kincaid Hawaii story Jim has teased us with since Dead Beat), that weird Brazilian fairy with the backwards feet, Baba Yaga (or just Mother Winter in Baba Yaga mantle mode), Tiamat (she has a page in the Monster Manual and a Saturday morning cartoon for a reason, right?) and Thor (whether or not my WAG of him being Hendricks is true I figure his presence has to be felt sooner or later with Vadderung showing up so much)

I'd also like to see Ananzi, since he's the original Spider-man and Harry is a follower of the Tao of Peter Parker. I know Neil Gaiman has used him fairly promiminently but so what? You could have said the same thing about Odin but Donar Vadderung is no Mr. Wednsday. Although if Ananzi, Coyote, and Loki show up we might be overloaded on tricksters to the point where Harry's head explodes. Conversely if you had Ananzi and Athena appear at the same time that could be interesting given her feelings for spiders... unless Ananzi's wife is one of Athena's mantles.

Whatever happens and whoever appears I'm sure it will continue to provide additional opportunities for the characters who star in the series; Harry, Murphy, Molly, Thomas, Marcone, Toot-Toot, Mouse; to continue having crowning moments of awesomeness as they adapt and overcome it all. Which I can't wait to see.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: The Reaver on January 13, 2013, 06:14:02 AM
Mab is an alternate name for an aspect of the Morrigan.

http://voices.yahoo.com/the-morrigan-celtic-goddess-battle-death-fate-and-8533559.html?cat=37 (http://voices.yahoo.com/the-morrigan-celtic-goddess-battle-death-fate-and-8533559.html?cat=37)

But since Celti mythology ties more knots than the Summers Family Tree who truly knows anymore?
That mentions that the tuath'an fought a race of giants called the Fomorians. Connection to the Fomor, perhaps?
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Arjan on January 13, 2013, 06:38:25 AM
That mentions that the tuath'an fought a race of giants called the Fomorians. Connection to the Fomor, perhaps?
Yes.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 13, 2013, 03:01:32 PM
That mentions that the tuath'an fought a race of giants called the Fomorians. Connection to the Fomor, perhaps?

among others. the formor contain also jotun and other losers...
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: sociotard on January 13, 2013, 06:50:43 PM
I'd like to see Prometheus. Of all the characters in Greek myth, he was my favorite.  Of course, he was a Titan, so he may be imprisioned on Demonreach.

Come to think of it, in some variants he was a trickster god. It'd be amusing if Coyote, Anansi, Loki, and Prometheus were all aspects of each other.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: mithrandirthewhite on January 13, 2013, 08:53:12 PM
throw in hermes and you end up at Odin. Which makes the mythos bloody hilarious.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: phoenixjustice on January 14, 2013, 07:10:59 AM
Who I'd like to see:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5xde4zXNH1run8q9o1_500.jpg)

Thor: Father, Loki tried to enslave all of humanity again!

Loki: Whine, whine! I only tried a little. *mumble* Blasted wizard got in my way. *mumble*

Tony Stark: Thanks for the assist, by the way.

Harry: No problem.

Tony Stark: So...like Shawarma?

Odin: *sighs and facepalms* And you wonder why I'm
(click to show/hide)

;D
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Socratov on January 14, 2013, 12:34:00 PM
oh you're such a fangirl ;D

But I have to admit, it would be pretty funny (but then again, I like RDJ in his role of Iron Man becuase he's so arrogant and stuff). I'd actually watch it ;D
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 14, 2013, 01:17:47 PM
:)

if were going norse, id rather have Hel.

actually, id expect Jim to go deep geek. he tends to avoid the well known ones and go for the college level ones.

sooo... as leader of the fomor. One of the Jotuns? Skadi? Bergelmir? Odin's mother Bestla? Gerd? (oh wait that might be Mab)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 14, 2013, 01:28:39 PM
Who I'd like to see:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5xde4zXNH1run8q9o1_500.jpg)

Thor: Father, Loki tried to enslave all of humanity again!

Loki: Whine, whine! I only tried a little. *mumble* Blasted wizard got in my way. *mumble*

Tony Stark: Thanks for the assist, by the way.

Harry: No problem.

Tony Stark: So...like Shawarma?

Odin: *sighs and facepalms* And you wonder why I'm
(click to show/hide)

;D
Oh I can see it now. 

Jarvis:  Sir, we are experiencing widespread system failure. 

Stark:  What? Why? 

Jarvis:  It appears to be emanating from the glowing gentleman shooting fire from his hands.  May I suggest you should land before-

Stark:  Oh, Crap. 
*sputter sputter, POP*

AAAAAHHHhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: SunlessNick on January 14, 2013, 02:15:52 PM
For mythological beings in the places we've already been to, it would be nice to see Selkies.

I'm always keen on the Simurgh, but she's a mentor-figure, and it might be a bit late for Harry to have one of those.

And Naga, if India ever plays a part.

Djinn would be interesting, since their mythological background stresses their free will as well as ours.  Maybe they have a benign strain of the Nemesis infection.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Rasins on January 14, 2013, 04:39:10 PM
Okay here are some Mythological figures I'd like to see...

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080502211132/babylon5/images/4/4c/Shadow-battlecrab.jpg)

Shadows BABY ... Organic Tech.  Let's see Harry "hexus" THAT!

(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/139/5/5/batwoman___legacy_by_dalexisstpierre-d50bme6.jpg)

LOVE Batman, but redheads ... YOWZA!

On a semi-serious note, don't we need a cameo by ...

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTk3NDE3Njc5M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTY5Nzc1._V1._SY314_CR2,0,214,314_.jpg)

He is in all the movies.

And we can't have a real adventure without....

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8e/Indiana_Jones_in_Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark.jpg/200px-Indiana_Jones_in_Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark.jpg)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 14, 2013, 04:50:50 PM
He is in all the movies.

And we can't have a real adventure without....

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8e/Indiana_Jones_in_Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark.jpg/200px-Indiana_Jones_in_Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark.jpg)
Somebody to teach Harry the importance of a good hat?  ;)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: mithrandirthewhite on January 14, 2013, 04:51:12 PM
I want to see a short story of the problems with names summoning creatures when you speak them correctly.  Specifically, I want Harry to go up against Candle Ja- :o
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Cancelled for A on January 14, 2013, 06:00:38 PM
Somebody to teach Harry the importance of a good hat?  ;)
....I doubt Dresden's a hat person, considering I've never once read him wearing a hat. Except for when he stole that Redhat's hat..

Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 14, 2013, 06:12:56 PM
....I doubt Dresden's a hat person, considering I've never once read him wearing a hat. Except for when he stole that Redhat's hat..

CD. he wore his helmet, cause mommie summer gave it to him.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 14, 2013, 06:21:50 PM
....I doubt Dresden's a hat person, considering I've never once read him wearing a hat. Except for when he stole that Redhat's hat..
And yet he is wearing a hat on ever cover, and has remarked more than once that he would have been better off if he'd been wearing a stupid hat ;)
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 14, 2013, 06:31:14 PM
And yet he is wearing a hat on ever cover, and has remarked more than once that he would have been better off if he'd been wearing a stupid hat ;)

thats an in joke. the art director put the hat on harry to make him more 'detective like'. ever since then Jim has made Harry/ Hat jokes.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Rasins on January 14, 2013, 06:40:32 PM
thats an in joke. the art director put the hat on harry to make him more 'detective like'. ever since then Jim has made Harry/ Hat jokes.

Harry has worn a hat on a couple of occasions.  The one I remember for sure is when he was undercover as a delivery guy.  Put a hat on then.  And did he wear a hat when he took the potion to go into the police station in Fool Moon?
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Quantus on January 14, 2013, 06:58:40 PM
thats an in joke. the art director put the hat on harry to make him more 'detective like'. ever since then Jim has made Harry/ Hat jokes.
I know, which is why I tried (and apparently failed) to make a joke about the man who has an ongoing love-affair with his hat teaching harry about them...
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: phoenixjustice on January 14, 2013, 07:08:22 PM
oh you're such a fangirl ;D

But I have to admit, it would be pretty funny (but then again, I like RDJ in his role of Iron Man becuase he's so arrogant and stuff). I'd actually watch it ;D

I am, I admit it! :P

(RDJ is literally perfect for the role of Tony Stark.) Yeah, I think it'd be fun to watch. xD

Oh I can see it now. 

Jarvis:  Sir, we are experiencing widespread system failure. 

Stark:  What? Why? 

Jarvis:  It appears to be emanating from the glowing gentleman shooting fire from his hands.  May I suggest you should land before-

Stark:  Oh, Crap. 
*sputter sputter, POP*

AAAAAHHHhhhhhhhhhhh

LOL! Totally! XD I can easily see that happening.
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Ms Duck on January 14, 2013, 07:13:07 PM
I know, which is why I tried (and apparently failed) to make a joke about the man who has an ongoing love-affair with his hat teaching harry about them...

sowwy. the joke about the joke about the joke flew over my joke inception radar ...

 ;D
Title: Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
Post by: Socratov on January 16, 2013, 10:17:37 AM
sowwy. the joke about the joke about the joke flew over my joke inception radar ...

 ;D
*squints intensely*