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Title: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 10, 2012, 08:52:10 AM
Second attempt at making this thread, hopefully I don't get "Waiting for approval" with this thread too.

This thread is here to act as a place to list the various traumas (not just physical injuries, things like Sight trauma or having a friend die in front of you also count as traumas here) great and small that Harry has suffered over the course of the series.

Before Storm Front:

His father dies.

Getting put into foster care.

Getting abused in foster care.

Training from hell from Justin.

Betrayal by Justin.

Fighting HWWB and watching Stan the clerk get ripped into three pieces.

Whatever happened to him with Lea (some think it was "just" torture, some think torture and rape).

Being forced to kill Justin (and from his POV at the time, Elaine).

Injuries from fighting Justin (there was a binding of Electric Eels that worked by causing extreme pain for example)

Getting dragged into Edinburgh for trial.

Storm Front:

Looking at the crime scene at the start of the book.

Beaten with a baseball bat as a warning to avoid the Sells case.

Getting slugged by Morgan.

Getting attacked again with a baseball bat so Sells could get a hair sample.

Looking at Victor's house and everyone in it with the Sight.

Getting shot by Helen Beckitt.

Fool Moon:

Soulgazing the leader of the Streetwolves.

Death of Kim Delaney by him not giving her the information she required.

Getting shot in the shoulder by one of the FBI agents.

Getting nearly choked unconscious.

The shock of using magic without words or gestures on Macfinn.

Left foot nibbled on by Loup-Garou. (a few cuts and tears and a lost boot but no serious damage)

The rampage of the Loup-Garou through SI.

Overused his magic to the point of being unable to use it for a while.

Beaten unconsious by the Lycanthropes after throwing himself out of a car.

Boot to the side of the head from Parker the Streetwolf.

The pain from struggling to hex one of Marcone's cameras.

The Soulgaze with Denton (what is it with him and Soulgazing nutjobs in this book?)

Kicked in the shoulder wound and tossed in a pit by Benn.

The pain from instinctively trying to throw a fuego at the Loup-Garou as he got Marcone free.

The pain from launching the spell to kill the Loup-Garou.

And Fool Moon is the current winner of the most injuries and pains tally unless you count Changes and Ghost Story as one giant two-book chain of traumas.

Grave Peril:

Bad head injury.

The Nightmare taking a chunk out of him for magic.

Forced to poison himself to escape Lea.

Being partially chewed on by the Ramps.

Possibly implied gang rape.

Getting beaten badly enough that he was dead enough to leave a ghost.

Susan being turned into a half-vampire and leaving him to join the Fellowship.

Summer Knight:

Forced to stab his hand and then getting the wound frozen.

Grum was beating the crap out of him until Lea intervened.

Seeing the Queens.

Death Masks:

Tortured by Nicodemus.

Seeing Shiro die a gruesome death.

Susan leaving him for good.

Blood Rites:

Shot by Lara.

Aftereffect of using the bear belt buckle (apparently so bad he has not used it since).

Hand gets cooked.

Shaken by finding out Ebenezar is the Blackstaff.

Dead Beat:

Wounded and nearly killed by Corpsetaker.

Pain from binding the Erlking (apparently comparable to the burning of his arm).

Tortured and nearly killed by Cassius.

Guilt from killing Corpsetaker and Cassius.

Proven Guilty:

Seeing the kid die in the beginning.

Hit and run attempt.

In Proven Guilty Harry realized his macho antics of doing an extended beat down on the alien looking Fetch, may have contributed to the death of one of the Fetch's victims.

Looking at the psychic injuries of people attacked by the Fetches with the Sight.

Forced to dislocate all the fingers in one of his hands when Madrigal tries to sell him on Ebay.

Being forced to relive some memories like his hand being cooked by Lash.

White Night:

Seeing those two sixteen year olds get killed by the Ghouls.

Getting either a bullet bouncing off his duster leading to a concussion or hitting a chunk of ice on the head leading to a concussion.

Getting beaten up in the duel with Vittorio Malvora and Madrigal Raith.

The incapacitation by Vittorio's attack.

Lash sacrificing herself for him.

Small Favour:

Nose broken and two black eyes from first Gruff attack.

Mab freezing his eyes in socket.

Brush with hypothermia after the subway.

The agony from holding in a lot of magic for a while at the aquarium.

Failure to save Ivy at the aquarium.

Nearly drowning at the aquarium.

Nearly choked unconsious by Namshiel.

Watching Michael get shot by Tessa and nearly die.

Beating from Nicodemus while choking him.

Another brush with hypothermia in the waters around Demonreach.

Pain from hearing Mab speak in her own voice rather than through proxy.

Turn Coat:

Looks at the Naglooshi, Shagnasty with the Sight.

Seeing Kirby die and Andi badly wounded.

Wounded by Shagnasty at their fight on Demonreach.

Stabbed by Peabody.

Finding out his relationship with Luccio was the result of psychic manipulation.

Thomas getting broken down (apparently the worst thing Shagnasty could do to hurt Harry in the long run) by torture.

Changes:

His office is destroyed.

His thigh and several ribs are broken.

His car is destroyed.

His house is burned down.

Broken back.

Killing Slate and becoming Winter Knight.

Bashed around by bolt of lightning from Arianna.

Blown out eardrum from the Red King's scream.

Being forced by circumstances to kill Susan.

Being forced to give away his child (and from his POV, probably never see her again).

Being shot and killed.

Ghost Story:

Nearly getting destroyed accidentally by eternal silence.

Getting eaten by the Lemurs.

Seeing Murphy and Molly pretty much fall to pieces without him.

Guilt from how many people got killed because he went and saved his daughter.

The pain after just waking up in his body.

Short Stories:

Restoration of Faith:

Beat up by the Troll.

Framed for kidnapping Faith.

Something Borrowed:

Jenny Greenteeth's attacks on the Wedding.

Heorot:

Injuries from fighting the three thugs.

Injuries from fighting the Grendelkin.

Day Off:

Smoke bomb exploding in his hand.

The Warrior:

Shot in the neck (or was it shoulder?) by the rogue member of the Inquisition.

Last Call:

Getting beat up by magic-drugged Murphy

Love Hurts:

The depression from being forced to break the Love Spell.

This list may be split into two posts if it gets long enough.

Other:

Getting less sex than almost anybody.

Innumberable relatively minor cuts and scrapes.

All the other injuries he gets offscreen between cases (his medical file was apparently larger than some phonebooks as of Dead Beat for crying out loud, and that's just the injuries he's been to doctors for).
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 10, 2012, 09:14:57 AM
Please suggest additions to the list.

Also, reserved in case I really do need to split the post in two.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: khatre on February 10, 2012, 10:52:04 AM
Do concussions count? Harry cant go more than a few pages without someone cracking his head for him ...
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 10, 2012, 10:54:40 AM
Any trauma he gets throughout the series counts (this also includes emotional trauma, watching Michael get shot to pieces for example, or Sight Trauma such as looking at Shagnasty)
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Arjan on February 10, 2012, 11:05:50 AM
Getting his girlfriend turned into a half red vampire?
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 10, 2012, 11:13:29 AM
Getting his girlfriend turned into a half red vampire?

Added.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Theoricus on February 10, 2012, 11:20:02 AM
In Small Favour, Harry enjoys a refreshing view of some skin changer.

Not to mention the broken back in changes, albeit that's easily remedied by some ancient mortal-Queen of Air and Darkness pact.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: molten_dragon on February 10, 2012, 11:35:07 AM
Okay, just a few off the top of my head:

Fool Moon - beaten badly by the Lycanthropes, overused his magic to the point of not being able to use it for awhile, watched Carmichael and a bunch of other SI cops die horribly
Grave Peril - Besides Susan getting turned whatever the vampires did to him in the dark that he still has nightmares about, poisoned himself with toadstool, bad head injury, got a bunch of his magic taken away by the nightmare, died for long enough to leave a ghost to help him beat up the nightmare.
Summer Knight - Saw the queens with his sight, stabbed himself in the hand with a letter opener, found out Elaine was alive
Death Masks - tortured by nicodemus, Saw susan again and she told him it was over for good, Saw shiro die horribly
Blood Rites - Can't think of any besides what you mentioned
Dead Beat - Tortured and almost killed by Cassius, Leg injured and almost killed by corpsetaker
Proven Guilty - Watched the kid at the beginning get killed
White Night - Got fairly beaten up in the duel with Vito Malvora and the Raith guy
Small Favor - Failed to save Ivy from the Denarians, almost drowned in the fight at the Shedd, had his eyes frozen by Mab, Got his nose broken by the Gruffs, watched Michael get shot and almost killed
Turn Coat - Saw the Naagloshi with his sight, saw the Naagloshi kill Kirby and badly wound Andi, Found out that Luccio had been forced into a relationship with him and didn't want to date him anymore
Changes - Car got destroyed, house got burned down, broke his spine, Found out he had a daughter that Susan had hidden for him for years, Agreed to be the winter knight, fought in a magical war at Chichen Itza, killed Susan, got shot and nearly killed at the end.
Ghost Story - Found out he was dead (or thought so at the time), nearly got eaten by wraiths a couple times, Lost almost all of himself by using too much magic, hurt by seeing what had happened to all of his friends since he had "died".
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 10, 2012, 11:37:32 AM
In Small Favour, Harry enjoys a refreshing view of some skin changer.

Not to mention the broken back in changes, albeit that's easily remedied by some ancient mortal-Queen of Air and Darkness pact.

Added along with the beating he got from Nicodemus as he was strangling him, his brush with hypothermia and the pain of holding in magic for a long period of time at the aquarium.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 10, 2012, 11:45:57 AM
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beaten badly by the Lycanthropes

Please be more specific.

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found out Elaine was alive

From his POV that's a Good Thing.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: khatre on February 10, 2012, 11:51:20 AM
He watched Nick make out with his own daughter  :o
Death Masks?
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: khatre on February 10, 2012, 11:53:12 AM
Storm Front
He soulgazed the Victor Sells lake house and everyone in it including a demon.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 10, 2012, 12:06:23 PM
Looking at this list, no wonder he was depressed enough to consider suicide in Ghost Story. He's wayyyyyyy overdue for some small happiness in his life.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: khatre on February 10, 2012, 12:14:45 PM
Like maby ...Make outs with Molly ?  :P

ooohhh .. future trama ...
Cold Days --- Make outs with Mab  ;D
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 10, 2012, 12:19:47 PM
Like maby ...Make outs with Molly ?  :P

ooohhh .. future trama ...
Cold Days --- Make outs with Mab  ;D

Aren't they the same thing? :D
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 10, 2012, 12:23:20 PM
Don't forget some of the things that happened to him in the sort stories.
Restoration of Faith: beat on by troll.
Something Borrowed: Jenny Greenteeth's attack at wedding
Herot: Grendelkin and rocks
Day Off: smoke bomb exploding in hand and frenzied werewolves
The Warrior: shot by ex-military priest
Last Call: getting beat on by magic-drugged Murphy
Love Hurts: the depression from Love Spell with Murphy
There are probably more detailed sufferings that occurred during the short stories; but these are fair examples.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 10, 2012, 01:49:52 PM
Don't forget to list things that he was forced to endure before Storm Front people!
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: molten_dragon on February 10, 2012, 09:57:17 PM
Please be more specific.

Harry is in the Car with Susan and Tera West.  They realize the Lycanthropes (the streetwolves) are following them.  Harry drinks the super coffee, jumps out of the moving car, and confronts them.  After it wears off, they beat him badly.

From his POV that's a Good Thing.

Probably so, but still, finding out that someone you loved and thought dead for over a decade has actually been alive the whole time and didn't tell you has got to be pretty traumatic.

Edit:  You also forgot watching the Loup Garou's rampage through SI in Fool Moon and everything I pointed out in Ghost Story.

Before Storm Front:  Growing up without a mother, His father dying when he was young, Being betrayed by Justin (and apparently Elaine), Being attacked by HWWB, Watching the gas station attendant murdered by HWWB, Killing Justin
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: laura118b on February 10, 2012, 10:18:05 PM
Having both his parents murdered.  Being placed in foster care.  Being abused in foster care.  Having his adoptive father abuse him.  Having his adoptive father try to break into his mind.  Fighting an Outsider.  The fun fun fun he had tied up in a cave by Lea and bled for magic.  Killing his adoptive father.  Being put on trial for his life, blindfolded and not understanding any of the words being said.  And all before 17.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Ms Duck on February 10, 2012, 11:05:38 PM
getting even less sex than i do ;)
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Don on February 10, 2012, 11:08:37 PM
getting even less sex than i do ;)

Amen
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Ziggelly on February 11, 2012, 12:05:45 AM
Let's not forget about the two kids who were ripped apart by the ghouls at Camp Kaboom in White Night...

Umm.. failing what-was-her-name in Fool Moon. Kim something?

Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 11, 2012, 01:43:59 AM
Could people get some more suggestions for Fool Moon, I remember him getting beaten up a lot in that book.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 11, 2012, 01:59:33 AM
You can summarize it by saying that 3 different types of werewolves tried to use him as a chew toy.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 11, 2012, 02:05:55 AM
You can summarize it by saying that 3 different types of werewolves tried to use him as a chew toy.

The goal of this thread of this thread is to be a full list. If we wanted to summarise it we could just say "the bits of his life we see in the books suck for him".
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 11, 2012, 02:07:42 AM
Apologies, my snarky cup runneth over.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: khatre on February 11, 2012, 03:49:42 AM
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The goal of this thread of this thread is to be a full list. If we wanted to summarise it we could just say "the bits of his life we see in the books suck for him".

He had make outs with Mab once. That didn't suck  ;D
ohhh ! and that time with Susan ! With the rope !  8)
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: sandman1313 on February 11, 2012, 04:49:58 AM
and dont forget the trauma of laying his murder(or at least all knowledge of it) at his pupils feet that was the worst thing harry has done yet
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Don on February 11, 2012, 04:51:50 AM
He had make outs with Mab once. That didn't suck  ;D
ohhh ! and that time with Susan ! With the rope !  8)

And the "wild monkey sex" with Anastasia...
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: csee8222 on February 11, 2012, 05:49:54 PM
and dont forget the trauma of laying his murder(or at least all knowledge of it) at his pupils feet that was the worst thing harry has done yet
Absolutely, seeing how much damage he caused Molly and all the others by his death will be major. She and Murphy (because of Kincaid) are both on the edge because he asked Molly's help to end him.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCulinaryWizard on February 11, 2012, 07:52:56 PM
Wasn't he in a car accident in Proven guilty?
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: KurtinStGeorge on February 11, 2012, 08:43:46 PM
In Storm Front Harry was jumped by the thug who was betraying his boss Marcone for Victor Sells.  The second time he had his hair cut and taken which traumatized him.

In Summer Knight Grum was beating Harry pretty good until Lea pretended to be an upset neighbor who had called the police.

In Proven Guilty Harry realized his macho antics of doing an extended beat down on the alien looking Fetch, may have contributed to the death of one of the Fetch's victims.  She bled out while the fight was going on.  Harry was pretty upset about that.

When Madrigal Raith was auctioning off Harry on Ebay, he had to dislocate his hand to get out of the handcuffs.  Even with Lash's help it was very painful. 

In White Night Harry fell through the ice and nearly drowned.  Either a bullet bounced off his bullet proof duster and gave him a concussion or he hit his head on the ice and suffered a concussion.

After the duel Lara nearly ate Harry, but he kind of enjoyed that.

If I remember any more I will post them.


Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Magus Black on February 11, 2012, 10:27:23 PM
Turn Coat: Watching an innocent man (and hero of the Wardens) die while still being held guilty of a crime he didn’t commit, despite all the evidence to clear him.

That would have to hurt someone as justice-loving as Harry.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 12, 2012, 02:17:14 AM
In Storm Front Harry was jumped by the thug who was betraying his boss Marcone for Victor Sells.  The second time he had his hair cut and taken which traumatized him.

In Summer Knight Grum was beating Harry pretty good until Lea pretended to be an upset neighbor who had called the police.

In Proven Guilty Harry realized his macho antics of doing an extended beat down on the alien looking Fetch, may have contributed to the death of one of the Fetch's victims.  She bled out while the fight was going on.  Harry was pretty upset about that.

When Madrigal Raith was auctioning off Harry on Ebay, he had to dislocate his hand to get out of the handcuffs.  Even with Lash's help it was very painful. 

In White Night Harry fell through the ice and nearly drowned.  Either a bullet bounced off his bullet proof duster and gave him a concussion or he hit his head on the ice and suffered a concussion.

After the duel Lara nearly ate Harry, but he kind of enjoyed that.

If I remember any more I will post them.

Added.

We need more Ghost Story and Fool Moon additions.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 12, 2012, 02:56:34 AM
For Fool Moon Harry resisted the emotional turmoil and temptation that occurred when he wear the belt and turned into wolf. Probably felt like being a member of the Wild Hunt.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Phaeton Seraph on February 12, 2012, 04:37:30 AM
How many bruises has he received from bullets bouncing off his coat?
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on February 12, 2012, 04:41:36 AM
How many bruises has he received from bullets bouncing off his coat?

Care to list all the incidents of this you can think of?
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: KurtinStGeorge on February 12, 2012, 06:01:30 AM
In Storm Front, Harry channels lighting to blast the toad demon while protecting Susan.  That took something out of him.

In Fool Moon, Harry never felt as low as when Murphy arrested him because she thought he was holding out information or directly had a hand in Kim Delaney's death.  Murphy chipped his tooth as well.

Also in Fool Moon, Harry was shot in shoulder when Tera West helped him escape police custody.

In Grave Peril, Harry feels responsible for the deaths of the innocents at Bianca's party.  Even though they might have all been dead before Harry torched Bianca's place.

In Small Favor, Harry was starting to suffer from hypothermia while waiting in the water on the reef off of Demonreach island while for Thomas to rescue him.

In Ghost Story Harry finds out that trying to go through walls painted with Ghost Dust is very painful.

Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: khatre on February 12, 2012, 03:14:20 PM
Fool Moon - Murphy Shot him! (ok , he only thought she shot him. but it hurt his feelings anyway)
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Ziggelly on February 13, 2012, 02:13:32 AM
Oh, yeah, you forgot him killing Corpsetaker, in Dead Beat. I remember him being really shook up by that fact - the first person he'd ever killed in cold blood - during Proven Guilty.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Cozarkian on February 14, 2012, 07:13:56 PM
Storm Front
Persecution by Morgan

Dead Beat
Forced to succumb to blackmail to save Murphy's job - which she eventually loses anyway.
Meets a nice girl, Shiela, who turns out to be not so nice.
Lengthy exposure to Polka
Conscritped into the Wardens (more responsibility) without getting a sword

Proven Guilty
Has to resist taking advantage of Molly

White Knight
Accused and/or not trusted by the minor practitioners.

Small Favor
Forced to help Marcone
"Failure to save Ivy" should read: Used as bait to capture and torture Ivy - twice (first to get her to Chicago then to get her to drop her veil).

Turn Coat
Suffers the "pleasure" of white vampire saliva.

Changes
Persecution by Rudolph
Loses precious time in the Erlking domain, severely hampering his plans
Forced to murder the previous WK to take the mantle and is subsequentlly put on display throughout the NN.
Turned into a dog (judging by Mouse's reaction, that wasn't a pleasant experience; also, it broke a Law of Magic)
Finally gets a date with Murphy, only to have it shot out of his hands.
   
Other
Forced to hide his relationship with Thomas
Warm Beer (although personally, Mac is right)
Humiliation of being terrible with Latin
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Arjan on February 14, 2012, 07:23:31 PM
It was not just Murphy's job that was at stake in Dead Beat. Prison or worse was a real possibility.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: TheCuriousFan on November 25, 2012, 12:18:47 AM
Updated the Fool Moon section, unsurprisingly it's the longest unless you count Changes and Ghost story as one big collection of traumas.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Romulan Cmdr on December 20, 2012, 04:02:32 PM
Storm Front
Realization that the spectacle demon wasn’t actually friendly – and the attempted trickery.
Failure to save Bianca’s assistant.

Grave Peril,
Guilt at endangering Michael’s family due to the Nightmare using his appearance.
Causing the Sword to be snagged by Lea due to him trying to wiggle out of his deal.
Guilt at Murphy getting attacked by the Nightmare using his appearance and protect her.
Reminder to him of what he doesn’t have- family. (he thinks)

Summer Knight - Dealing with the guilt at failing to find a cure for Susan.
Getting blamed by the WC, harassed by Morgan, made a fool of in the WC meeting.
Pressure of WC expectations, solving the SK murder, and the stakes.
Unable to prevent the death of Myrtle.
 Having been the instrument of killing Aurora.  (it was a woman to boot)
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: HistoryDave on December 26, 2012, 04:26:34 AM
In Dead Beat:

Harry took Cowl's force blast in front of the book store.
After imprisoning the Erlking, Cowl slugs Harry unconscious with his own .44.
Harry survives the backlash from disrupting the Darkhallow.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: wizard nelson on January 03, 2013, 11:03:17 AM
-in GP he gets the guilt of knowing he likely killed innocent mortals with his pyrofeugo spell.
-finding out both his parents died unnatural deaths in FM
-mab freezing his eyeballs(cant think what book)
 -murdered aurora, the final scene with the "neither do i" is chalk full of emotional trauma. SK
-almost tastes death at bobs hands in DB.
and i'll let you know iir any more.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Romulan Cmdr on August 02, 2013, 03:08:22 PM
This may be a late addition but - there are plenty of things he endured in Cold Days.

An earlier one was riding in the back of a pickup truck, soaking wet in a full blizzard.
He has a lot of guilt for both unattended consequences of his actions and his not being there.
Like his guilt that Formers invaded.
The macro reactions to his face off in Changes - etc.
The loss of his personal items and home. The place mightve been small but it was his. For someone who d been an orphan to have something that was definitely his meant alot to him.
Title: Re: What has Harry endured?
Post by: Genghiskhan on August 14, 2013, 02:34:23 PM
Could one potentially be in Storm Front, where he channels the storm without any sort of foci or rituals, to defeat Sells' demon? I'm guessing that would have been something to endure!