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Warden Security File
Harry Dresden
Harry Dresden has shown signs of irrationality, volatility and violent tendencies. His actions include murder, torture, mass destruction of property, and multiple uses of black magic. He has shown pathological need to protect the "innocent" regardless of consequence. Treat with extreme caution. He is a fanatic in his willingness to further what he sees as morally right. Dresden showed psychotic rage when ghouls murdered two warden trainees. Dresden tortured one of the Ghouls to death. He agreed to protect Donald Morgan from the White Council even at risk of his own death despite their personal animosity. He single handedly began the war with the Red Court in vengeance for infecting his lover. He engaged the Red King and all of his nobility in order to rescue a client's child. In order to gain the necessary resources for this confrontation he agreed to be Winter Knight. He then activated a bloodline death curse that eradicated the entire Red Court in order to rescue the child
Dresden has been deemed at risk for mental manipulation from multiple sources. Dresden is currently under the influence of the Winter Mantle. He has had significant exposure to various members of the White Court and is believed to have been in a sexual relationship with the son of Lord Raith (Thomas Raith). It is believed that the White God via a former Knight of the Cross (Michael Carpenter) purged Dresden of all psychic manipulation at one point leading to the end of Dresden's personal relationship with Thomas Raith. Since this purge, Dresden has also claimed sanctum over the island of Demonreach. It is unknown what this link has done to him psychologically or if he has attempted to utilize the full power of the island's well. Dresden was shown to be one of only a few Wardens to not have been affected by Samuel Peabody's attack on the Council. After the execution of Peabody Dresden was subsequently inspected for any signs of mental manipulation and was deemed unaffected (and surprisingly resistant to tampering for someone his age). Upon his return from the Never Never as Knight he was inspected by the Gatekeeper and deemed to be currently resisting manipulation of the mantle of Winter Knight
If Dresden believes that he is morally correct he will not relent under any circumstances. It is extremely unlikely that he can be reasoned or bargained with. Threats against his person, life, or freedom are completely counterproductive. He has demonstrated a tendency to become even more motivated to fight when pressured to relent. He has shown a continuous contempt of power and authority. In any situation where Dresden feels that the Council is in opposition to his morality he will fight against the council in any means necessary. If any situation such as this were to arise the best approach would be to disable him as quickly as possible
Tactical abilities
- Dresden rates as one of the most powerful Wardens alive. Given his current status as Winter Knight his current level of strength and skill is unknown.His skills have grown as a result of Mab's personal training
- His favored weapons are wind, raw force, fire, and ice
- Dresden is known to have access to soul fire
- He has shown generalized talents in tracking spells, Thaumaturgy, Ectomancy, and Necromancy, and combat magic
- He utilizes a sophisticated shield focus known to be a significant energy drain
- Dresden possesses at least ten rings used to trap and release potential energy
- He has developed a shield crystal that will explode upon failure. The blast range is several hundred meters
- He has shown to have developed unusual gifts with language that are likely the result of magic. Dresden can converse in Ghoul and ancient Etruscan
Mother: Margaret Gwendolyn "le Fay" Dresden [Wizard](deceased)
Father: Malcolm Dresden [Mortal] (Deceased)
Known Associates
Winter Queen Mab
Dresden has shown a very strange relationship with Mab. It is extremely unusual that any mortal would have direct contact with Mab as frequently as Dresden had prior to his becoming Winter Knight. Dresden had been contracted to act as her human emissary/ personal investigator on at least two occasions. Their relationship has proven extremely durable in that Dresden led a strike force on behalf of Summer against Arctis Tor and Mab failed to retaliate in customary Winter fashion. It is known that prior to his acceptance of the Mantle of Winter Knight Mab lobbied him to take the position for several years
Winter Lady Molly Carpenter
Daughter of the former Knight of the Cross. Subsequently developed magical talent and psychically manipulated mortals violating the third law of magic. Dresden defended her at trial and agreed to take the Doom of Damocles with her in exchange for a stay of her execution. Her known skills are mental manipulation and general illusionary magic. After Dresden's faked death she is presumed to have gone with him to the Winter Court where she continued her training. Wardens were unable to locate her subsequent to Dresden's disappearance. Upon the death of Maeve, Carpenter became the new Winter Lady. Her current abilities and stability are unknown
The Leanansidhe
Named godmother to Harry Dresden by Margaret Dresden. Specifics of Sidhe bargain are unknown. Since being named his godmother she has amassed a considerable amount of power which in most estimates has made her the third most powerful member of the Winter court after the Mother and Queen Mab. She is known to have accompanied Dresden's strike force to Chichén Itzá
Genius Loci of Island in Lake Michigan
File classified. Dresden is currently located on this island (Demonreach) where he initiated a Sanctum invocation. Do not attempt to travel to this island without the express permission of Dresden and under the authority of the Senior Council. Do not confront Dresden here
The Archive (aka “Ivy”)
The Archive is one of the most powerful mortal beings in existence. Previous estimates of her tactical ability as comparable to a winter/summer lady were shown to be inadequate. She was able to single handedly engage an estimated half-dozen of the strongest Denarians in combat without access to outside magic. She has shown a strong emotional attachment to Dresden. She has previously violated her mandate to protect the Archive at all cost by breaking a veil to defend Dresden from Denarian attack. Given her previous violation of this mandate there is great cause for concern that the current Archive may take full control of her power at some point. She represents a potential deity-level threat.
Jared Kincaid (aka Hellhound)
Mercenary with very high level of combat efficiency. Has worked with Dresden previously and is currently employed as the full time bodyguard of the Archive. He shows no overt emotional attachment to Dresden however he has been shown to provide unwavering loyalty to anyone to whom he is employed.
Knight of the Cross (Sanya)
Along with two previous Knights he has worked with Dresden on numerous occasions and can be reliably predicted to help Dresden under most circumstances.
Archangel Uriel
Has appeared before the knights and various members of the Church of the White God to insure that Dresden keeps both Amoracchius and Fidelacchius. It is the first time in recorded history that a wizard has been granted guardianship of two swords. It is also presumed that Uriel granted Dresden the use of Soul Fire
Lord Raith
Current Monarch of the White Court. Dresden has aided in stabilizing his regime on at least two occasions. Lord Raith was known to have a relationship with Dresden’s mother. Lord Raith has granted considerable access and resources to Dresden. It is believed that their relationship has influenced White Court policy towards neutrality in the conflict between the White Council and Red Court
Thomas Raith
Previously out of favor with the White Court it is believed that Thomas Raith has used his psychic abilities to instigate a sexual relationship with Dresden in order to regain favor with the White Court. Raith and Dresden lived together for over a year in Dresden’s apartment before the two separated. Confirmation from Chicago police informant that the two were in a sexual relationship that has since supposedly ended. The status of their relationship is currently unknown however Raith seems to be Dresden's main point of contact within the White Court.
Ebenezer McCoy
Volunteered to mentor Dresden after he murdered his previous mentor. Previously trained Dresden’s mother. Has shown an overt emotional attachment to Dresden as evidenced by
Carlos Ramirez
West Coast Regional Commander-Wardens, United States. The two have shown a strong friendship. He is perhaps Dresden’s closest friend within the Wardens.
Mouse Dresden
Dresden’s Foo Dog. It is unknown how the creature came into Dresden’s possession. It is a formidable and intelligent creature that will show unwavering loyalty to Dresden. Given his lack of proximity to a temple it is likely that much of the creature’s power is diminished however this has not been verified
Jon Marcone
Head organized criminal activities within the Chicago area. Has worked with Dresden on a number of occasions. Assisted Dresden in stopping an attempted coup against Lord Raith leading to his becoming a free holding lord under the Unseelie Accords. He is the first wholly mortal free holding lord in history under the Accords. Has global contacts with mortal authorities, mortal criminal organizations as well as various magical organizations
“Paranet”
Dresden is founder of a national organization of humans with below-council magical abilities. He has advocated incorporating the paranet into the White Council as an intelligence gathering apparatus for aid in locating wizard-level abilities in humans. Currently there are several hundred estimated members
Bright Future Society
A group of low level magical talents and mortals working to protect the city of Chicago in Dresden's absence. A large number of Dresden's previous allies are known members (werewolves, paranet members, mortals). The organization has successfully defended against multiple incursions into the city by the Fomor
Individuals Known to have died in combat against Dresden
Justin DuMorne -Warlock
Victor Sells - Warlock
Lycanthrope pack
Hexenwolf pack from FBI
loup-garou
Barroness Bianca St Claire (and retinue) of the Red Court
Summer Lady Aurora
Summer Lady LillyWinter Lady Maeve
Leonid Kravos -Warlock
Grevane -Warlock, Necromancer
Capiorcorpus - Warlock, Necromancer
Samuel Peabody - Warlock, Neuromancer
Madrigal Raith - White Court
Mavra (and retinue) -Black Court, Sorceress
Unknown number of hosts to the Order of Blackened Denarius
Unknown number of White Court vampires
Unknown number of Ghouls
The entire Red Court
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Began training with Justin DuMorne (Age 10)
Killed Justin DuMorne (Age 16)
• Upon soul gaze the mark of an outsider was detected. Determined not infected by Gatekeeper.
• Tried, sentenced to probation (Doom of Damocles levied)
Trained with Ebenezer McCoy (Age 16-19)
• Under orders to execute if necessary
Assigned to Warden Donald Morgan for tracking (Age 19)
Employed by Ragged Angel Private Detectives (Chicago, USA) (Age 20-24)
• Publically uses magic for a mortal employer
Began independent private investigator business (Age 24)
• Advertises as a wizard investigator
o Council disinformation campaign initiated to discredit business
Violation of the First Law detected in vicinity of Chicago (Age 25)
• Thaumaturgical killing curse (heart removal) detected
o Three victims on two occasions (Dresden suspected)
• Sorcerer confirmed as Victor Sells (deceased)
o Dresden initiated conflict with Sells in an attempt to prevent future black magic
Sells was killed by Dresden without a violation of the first law
• Doom of Damocles rescinded for meritorious actions
Notice of confrontation with magical being (Age 25)
• Lycanthrope pack (entire pack deceased)
• Hexenwolf pack (entire pack deceased)
• loup-garou (deceased)
o Note: Dresden’s apparent tactical ability has exceeded previous estimates
Notice of confrontation with magical being (Age 26)
• Attempted assassination of Dresden by Red Court vampire Bianca St Claire
o Mass simultaneous assassination of all of the Vampire's enemies at its coronation
• Attempted revenge/rescue of human hostage of Red Court in violation of the Unseelie Accords
o All Red Court vampires present were subsequently destroyed by Dresden via ectomancy
Mission on behalf of Council (investigation on behalf of Queen Mab) (Age 27)
• Notice of confrontation with magical being
o During battle between Fairie Courts Dresden engaged Summer Lady Aurora (deceased)
Dresden’s tactical ability again exceeds previous estimates
• Mission completed with gratitude of Queen Mab
o Access to Unseelie ways granted for duration of conflict with Red Court
Notice of confrontation with magical being (Age 28)
• Council sanctioned duel with Red Court Duke Paolo Ortega (deceased)
o According to Archive, duel was compromised by Red Court
Notice of confrontation with magical being (Age 28)
• Combat with unknown members of the Order of Blackened Denarius
o Dresden aided Knights of the Cross in stopping a Denarian attempt to initiate a global pandemic
o Dresden was granted custodianship of Fidelacchius by Knights of the Cross
Report of possible exposure to psychic manipulation (Age 29)
• Had a sexual relationship with Lord Raith's son. The two lived together in a one room apartment
• Dresden is currently under heightened surveillance. Given the White Court's reluctance to enter the war it has been ordered that the relationship be watched however the Warden's will not interfere until more information is available
Notice of confrontation with magical being (Age 29)
• Led non-council strike team against a scourge of Black Court vampires lead by Sorceress Mavra (deceased)
o Left hand sustained third degree burns during operation
Report of multiple sorcerer confrontation (Age 30)
• Appointed Regional Warden Commander by Captain Anastasia Luccio
• Initiated multi-warden combat with Class 1 Sorcerers (Necromancers)
o Grevane (deceased)
o Capriocorpus (deceased)
o Cowl (Reported at large by Dresden)
• All Wardens present except Dresden and Ramirez were disabled or killed
• Initiated Necromansic animation of 65 million year old T-Rex (Sue) and used zombie to disrupt “Darkhallow” ritual
Notice of confrontation with magical being (Age 31)
• Led a non-council strike team to successfully attack Arctis Tor
on behalf of Summer Court to coordinate counterstrike against Red Court
Gained Apprentice (Age 31)
• Agreed to attempt reform of sorcerer Molly Carpenter
o Convicted of violation of the third law. Doom of Damocles Levied
Notice of confrontation with magical being (Age 32)
• Warden training camp attacked by Ghouls
o 2 trainees were kidnapped and killed
o Dresden shows conversational skill in Ghoul language
o Upon death of trainees Dresden demonstrates unstable emotional state
Extreme torture of Ghoul as method of execution
Notice of confrontation with magical being (Age 32)
• Initiated joint duel (Carlos Ramirez) with White Court Vampires in response to assassinations of magical human population
o Duel was a trap in an attempted coup of the White Court. Outsider activity detected
o Wardens successfully defended against outsiders and helped to preserve White Court power structure
o Dresden shows conversational skill in White Court Etruscan
Notice of confrontation with magical being (Age 33)
• Initiates negotiations with Order of Blackened Denarius on behalf
of Queen Mab for violation of Unseelie Accords (Kidnapping of signatory)
• Negotiations are discovered to be a trap wherein the Archive is kidnapped
o Dresden leads strike team to rescue Archive
• Dresden is granted custodianship of Amoracchius
Report of exposure to psychic manipulation (Age 33)
• Queen Mab removed all knowledge and memory of fire magic from Dresden's conscious mind
o Spell reversed by Knight of the Cross (Michael Carpenter)
o Shortly after this incident Dresden lost almost all contact with Thomas Raith
Official notification to Council that Dresden was harboring fugitive Warden (Age 35)
• Negotiated peaceful transfer of prisoner to senior council
• Assignation attempt on Senior Council Members
o While negotiating transfer of Donald Morgan Senior Council members were attacked
by army of beings from the never never including a Naagloshii
Sanctum Invocation (Age 35)
• “Demonreach" island has been claimed by Dresden
• Dresden now possesses intellectus in relation to the island
Notice of confrontation with sorcerer (Age 35)
• Dresden’s investigation uncovered a plot by Samuel Peabody (deceased)
to murder Senior Council members and violate the third law of magic
Notice of bargain with Unseelie (Age 36)
• Agreement with Queen Mab to become Winter Knight in exchange for striketeam against Red Court
Notice of confrontation with magical being (Age 36)
• In response to kidnapping of client’s daughter, Dresden led a strike team to attack the Red King.
• Red Court subsequently suffered an extinction level event
o Note: all previous estimates of Dresden’s tactical ability have apparently been inadequate.
Notice of confrontation with magical being (Age 37)
- According to council intelligence Dresden initiated a battle on Demonreach Island with representatives of both Summer and Winter including the ladies. Both ladies died as a result of this conflict. Dresden's apprentice (Molly Carpenter) was named the new Winter Lady.
- Given previous assessments of the power of the Winter and Summer ladies it is clear that Dresden's power at Chichén Itzá was not temporary. Mab has clearly granted Dresden power far in excess of any previous Knight and he represents a massive threat to the Council
Current whereabouts: Demonreach Island
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You should add to the end of this file
NOTICE CURRENT LOCATION UNKNOWN all possible sightings should be reported to HeadQuarters by the fastest means possible Use Key Phrase "ICE STORM" to have your report filed properly.
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Under Age 36 (Changes) you might want to add something about the fact that Dresden defeated/sidestepped a Death Curse. Maybe something like this.
Notice of Significant exploitation of conditions of Death Curse (Age)
- Subject Dresden, accomplished something that is generally considered impossible, and defeated a Death Curse by fullfilling its conditions, without otherwise remaining dead. (Note: at this time, it does not appear that any of the Laws of magic were broken as a result of his revival.)
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Put in that way I guess he does sound both powerful, scary, and unstable.
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...Heh. He's got quite the rap sheet, doesn't he?
A single quibble: why would the Council not suspect exposure to/hosting of a Denariian? From the report, they are aware of the organizations of the Knights of the Cross and of the Order of the Blackened Denariius; why is there no speculation (or, more specifically, no warnings) regarding the potential that he has claimed a coin?
(I mean, the man made a fool of himself while attempting to speak Latin in SK, and, IIRC, went to some trouble to ensure that he could speak English in PG, but only two years later, shows fluency in two obscure languages and nobody bats an eye?* Etruscan, maybe: they know about Thomas. But Ghoul? I mean, who teaches Ghoul? I don't think there's a correspondence course for it, and I'm not sure anyone would survive an immersion program.)
*Yes, I know Lash could have helped in PG. But the Council saw only that Harry insisted upon speaking English, possibly enlisting the aid of the Summer Knight and Lady to do so.
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Knowing the other languages is unusual, but hardly enough to make you say, "Wait, does that mean he has a Fallen Angel from hell in his brain?"
I think the reason Lasciel's coin isn't mentioned is because there is no way the council wouldn't have taken serious action if they suspected it.
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Only Ramirez knows about the Etruscan or the Ghoul, and he doesn't strike me as the type to go tattling on him. Well, I guess Meyers knows about the Ghoul, as well, but that could be shrugged away with a "he's got a lot of faery connections."
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Knowing the other languages is unusual, but hardly enough to make you say, "Wait, does that mean he has a Fallen Angel from hell in his brain?"
I think the reason Lasciel's coin isn't mentioned is because there is no way the council wouldn't have taken serious action if they suspected it.
I was specifically thinking of the discrepancy between *not* knowing the common language of the White Council but suddenly showing a talent for not just one, but two languages spoken by groups hostile to it--at least one of which (Ghoul) that might be pretty dangerous to attempt to learn.
It might raise a few eyebrows among the Wardens-- and might lead to someone scrutinizing his file to try to determine how he learned it or what beings or groups he might have had contact with to teach him. I just think there might be more suspicion about how he managed to learn Ghoul and Etruscan....but not Latin. (Of course, since when has he done what the Council wanted? ::) )
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I was specifically thinking of the discrepancy between *not* knowing the common language of the White Council but suddenly showing a talent for not just one, but two languages spoken by groups hostile to it--at least one of which (Ghoul) that might be pretty dangerous to attempt to learn.
It might raise a few eyebrows among the Wardens-- and might lead to someone scrutinizing his file to try to determine how he learned it or what beings or groups he might have had contact with to teach him. I just think there might be more suspicion about how he managed to learn Ghoul and Etruscan....but not Latin. (Of course, since when has he done what the Council wanted? ::) )
Arguably, it's something that he could blame on Justin, if he were forced to give an answer on that front and were willing to lie about it ... or I suppose he could imply it (he's going to be spending time amongst the Sidhe, he ought to improve his word games by a significant amount). "As you may recall, my first master didn't teach me a thing about the White Council, but did teach me other things."
Alternatively, he'll just look down and snark at them. Be a bit tough to accuse him of being a traitor to the council for the Red Court (because there is no Black Council), after all.
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I was specifically thinking of the discrepancy between *not* knowing the common language of the White Council but suddenly showing a talent for not just one, but two languages spoken by groups hostile to it--at least one of which (Ghoul) that might be pretty dangerous to attempt to learn.
It might raise a few eyebrows among the Wardens-- and might lead to someone scrutinizing his file to try to determine how he learned it or what beings or groups he might have had contact with to teach him. I just think there might be more suspicion about how he managed to learn Ghoul and Etruscan....but not Latin. (Of course, since when has he done what the Council wanted? ::) )
Hey, he got Latin too, he learned it well enough to speak on his own at Morgan's trial in Turn Coat with no one laughing at him.
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Hey, he got Latin too, he learned it well enough to speak on his own at Morgan's trial in Turn Coat with no one laughing at him.
That is because he is a master of arcane lore ;D
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Also, remember that cod-latin is his spellcasting language. He *can't* get too good at it, or he'll burn his brain out.
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Also, remember that cod-latin is his spellcasting language. He *can't* get too good at it, or he'll burn his brain out.
And yet he can speak it just fine in Turn Coat, like with many things, Harry is steadily getting better on that front.
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Also, remember that cod-latin is his spellcasting language. He *can't* get too good at it, or he'll burn his brain out.
Yes, he can. The "latin" he uses for his spells is not the same Latin he speaks at WC meetings. Him yelling Fuego for his spells is like if you shouted "Firaga!" instead of "Fire!"
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Yes, he can. The "latin" he uses for his spells is not the same Latin he speaks at WC meetings. Him yelling Fuego for his spells is like if you shouted "Firaga!" instead of "Fire!"
He uses a mixture of faux latin and faux spanish, I believe. Since he uses deliberately messed up derivatives, I don't think fluency in the real thing would brain fry him anyways.
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Just to point it out, Harry isn't speaking Ghoul, he's speaking Sumarian. It may be a Dead Language, but is isn't a Monsters Language...
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Mouse Dresden
Dresden’s Foo Dog. It is unknown how the creature came into Dresden’s possession. It is a formidable and intelligent creature that will show unwavering loyalty to Dresden. Given his lack of proximity to a temple it is likely that much of the creature’s power is diminished however this has not been verified. Update: current location is Micheal Carpenters Home as this is Holy Ground the creatures power level is not impeded
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Reading this always makes me feel a little stupid.
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Just to point it out, Harry isn't speaking Ghoul, he's speaking Sumarian. It may be a Dead Language, but is isn't a Monsters Language...
True, lots of people speak Sumarian. It's unfortunate that almost all of them except for a few scholars are dead. ::) Harry got real proficient in a bunch of things at nearly the same time. He gained a few levels and skill (fans of D&D).
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You know what? I always thought the White Council were just being a bunch of dicks by not trusting Harry, and then you go and put shit into perspective with a wrap sheet a freak'n mile long. Um... hells bells... when you put it like that, no wonder he makes the council nervous. :o The suggested addendum of... 'current location, unknown' is probably enough to send chills down the spine of most of the council. We the reader realize that Harry only manges to just get by, after getting his ass handed to him, but to the characters in Harry's world... holy hell, the dude must look seriously dangerous loose canon.
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We the reader realize that Harry only manges to just get by, after getting his ass handed to him, but to the characters in Harry's world... holy hell, the dude must look seriously dangerous loose canon.
Harry came to this exact conclusing in TC when the old school tough wardens were hesitant to step up to a fight with him. Vader is cool when he is on your side :)
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Absolutely love this.
But I think threatening Arianna should also be noted,.. no clue how to call the notice maybe;
Notice of Council Interaction (Age 36)
- Threatens Duchess Arianna to release a kidnapped child during the peace negotiations.
- - Sensitives note psychic instability.
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Absolutely love this.
But I think threatening Arianna should also be noted,.. no clue how to call the notice maybe;
Notice of Council Interaction (Age 36)
- Threatens Duchess Arianna to release a kidnapped child during the peace negotiations.
- - Sensitives note psychic instability.
--- further note the amount of Rage witnessed by Council Members present indicates unknown factor the reason for this must be investigated
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Previously out of favor with the White Court it is believed that Thomas Raith has used his psychic abilities to instigate a sexual relationship with Dresden in order to regain favor with the White Court. Raith and Dresden lived together for over a year in Dresden’s apartment before the two separated. Confirmation from Chicago police informant that the two were in a sexual relationship that has since supposedly ended.
Where has this been established? I don't remember any of the latter books where Thomas was introduced, establishing this.
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Where has this been established? I don't remember any of the latter books where Thomas was introduced, establishing this.
It's a joke that the White Council would make the assumption that Harry and Thomas are in a relationship since they're living together combined with the rumour/in-joke that they're lovers from an informant in the Chicago pd.
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Dosen't matter how many times I read this thread, I always find it awsome and the reference to a thomas/harry relationship hilarius.
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I would like to point out that it's odd no one mentioned his use of Hellfire. I mean, a sulphury (is that even a word?) smell every time he calls on it DOES get noticed.
Of course, it's not sure he ever used it around people who could report it to the Council. Did he fling hellfire-enhanced spells before Lash left him in the Deeps?
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I would like to point out that it's odd no one mentioned his use of Hellfire. I mean, a sulphury (is that even a word?) smell every time he calls on it DOES get noticed.
Of course, it's not sure he ever used it around people who could report it to the Council. Did he fling hellfire-enhanced spells before Lash left him in the Deeps?
Does anyone besides Harry ever comment on it, though?
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I would like to point out that it's odd no one mentioned his use of Hellfire. I mean, a sulphury (is that even a word?) smell every time he calls on it DOES get noticed.
Of course, it's not sure he ever used it around people who could report it to the Council. Did he fling hellfire-enhanced spells before Lash left him in the Deeps?
Probably because the council does not know Harry used hellfire.
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Probably because the council does not know Harry used hellfire.
its like that b5 Crusade quote from the Technomage
"I don't hold a grudge I HAVE NO SURVIVING ENEMIES"
how many folks have seen harry use Hellfire and are currently "paying taxes"??
now remove those folks that don't want the White Council to "notice" them.
now remove those that the WC would actually TRUST
i think we have eliminated everybody at this point
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Can we assume that some wizard took a true sight look at Harry sometimes?
Since at least some instances should have been noticeable (andor really worrysome) to someone with the sight;
- "wolfishness" after using the belt (getting wrapped in a spirit of rage can't be healthy)
- Harry eating Cravos (even Bob commented on it)
- Harry touching Mavras whines of torment spell
- Harry diverting HWWBs death curse from Inari (Harry said it felt like a piece of his soul ripped out)
- Harry getting a hole in his skull after the wraith deeps (it was a psychic attack?)
- maybe maybe Lash, maybe that is meant with "such an influence is detectable" (maybe maybe Carlos detected it but was just to inexperienced to recognize it)
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Can we assume that some wizard took a true sight look at Harry sometimes?
I don't think we can. Most wizards use their sight sparingly.
Since at least some instances should have been noticeable (andor really worrysome) to someone with the sight;
- "wolfishness" after using the belt (getting wrapped in a spirit of rage can't be healthy)
- Harry eating Cravos (even Bob commented on it)
- Harry touching Mavras whines of torment spell
- Harry diverting HWWBs death curse from Inari (Harry said it felt like a piece of his soul ripped out)
- Harry getting a hole in his skull after the wraith deeps (it was a psychic attack?)
- maybe maybe Lash, maybe that is meant with "such an influence is detectable" (maybe maybe Carlos detected it but was just to inexperienced to recognize it)
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Some ideas for ya?
"Mister" Dresden
Dresden has now for several years owned a seemingly domesticated male cat. It should be noted that Dresden's cat "Mister" seems to have odd tastes. While normally the feline will simply prowl like any other cat. There has been odd occasions where "Mister" has visited strip clubs. The cat is larger than most cats and is missing most of its tail. While attempts to see Mister with the Sight have produced nothing of merit, it is possible Dresden is using the cat in some unknown ritual or spell to fulfill voyeuristic sexual fantasies. This ceased when Thomas Raith moved in with Dresden and since Raith's departure there has been nothing to suggest Dresden has resumed this pattern. Shortly before the destruction of the Red Court, Dresden's Chicago apartment was destroyed in a fire. According to reports from local authorities it is believed to have been arson. "Mister" is believed to have escaped the apartment but his whereabouts are currently unknown. However given Dresden's disappearance the cat could be in the care of one of Dresden's contacts or allies.
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It is worth nothing that this is represents the Wardens perspectives, so that might need to be reflected in some of the intel, since Luccio, Carlos and the Texan might know things about Harry, but not share them.
Remember how poorly-informed Luccio is about other things when she tries to explain them to Harry.
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It is worth nothing that this is represents the Wardens perspectives, so that might need to be reflected in some of the intel, since Luccio, Carlos and the Texan might know things about Harry, but not share them.
Remember how poorly-informed Luccio is about other things when she tries to explain them to Harry.
They are wizards. They do not share information.
Somewhere there is a woj telling that the senior council together knows everything about Harry's background but nobody knows it all and they do not know what the others know or don't know. Or something like that.
From Dead Beat:
Come on, I'm a wizard. We have union rules against telling anybody anything.
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Does anyone besides Harry ever comment on it, though?
Yes Nicodemus mentioned it "There are rumors that a certain Warden has been flinging Hellfire at his foes." [Small Favor, 242]. Though given the source it is entirely possible that no one in the counsel would have this information, at least if they are actually loyal to the counsel.
Report of multiple sorcerer confrontation (Age 30)
• Appointed Regional Warden Commander by Captain Anastasia Luccio
• Initiated multi-warden combat with Class 1 Sorcerers (Necromancers)
o Grevane (deceased)
o Capriocorpus (deceased)
o Cowl (Reported at large by Dresden)
• All Wardens present except Dresden and Ramirez were disabled or killed
• Initiated Necromansic animation of 65 million year old T-Rex (Sue) and
used zombie to kill Necromancers and disrupt “Darkhallow” ritual.
Maybe a mention that some time during these events he gained/started a quarrel of some kind through unknown means with the Erlking.
Notice of confrontation with magical being (Age 32)
• Warden training camp attaqcked by Ghouls
o 2 trainees were kidnapped and killed
o Dresden shows conversational skill in Ghoul language
o Upon death of trainees Dresden demonstrates unstable emotional state
Extreme torture of Ghoul as method of execution
I feel like there was a mention in White Night that since that event Ghouls haven't attacked Wizards as often or something like that and this might be reflected in the report.
Report of exposure to psychic manipulation (Age 33)
• Queen Mab removed all knowledge and memory of fire magic from Dresden's conscious mind
o Spell reversed by Knight of the Cross (Michael Carpenter)
o Shortly after this incident Dresden lost almost all contact with Thomas Raith.
Would the counsel have this information? How would they have gotten it? It's unlikely that Harry told them and as far as I can remember he never told anyone who actually did the manipulation.
Official notification to Council that Dresden was harboring fugitive Warden (Age 35)
• Negotiated peaceful transfer of prisoner to senior council
• Assignation attempt on Senior Council Members
o While negotiating transfer of Donald Morgan Senior Council members were attacked
by a large army of beings from the never never as well as a Naagloshii.
Should there be mention that Dresden was able to survive, at least for a time, direct and single combat with the Naagloshii prior to Listens to Wind's arrival? Maybe another mention of the assessments of his skills being inadequate.
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Yes Nicodemus mentioned it "There are rumors that a certain Warden has been flinging Hellfire at his foes." [Small Favor, 242]. Though given the source it is entirely possible that no one in the counsel would have this information, at least if they are actually loyal to the counsel.
Nicodemus was still trying to recruit Harry here. It could be he just threatened to start the rumour here. His main purpose was to spread distrust between Harry and his friends to isolate him and so to make him an easier target for Lasciel's shadow.
Maybe a mention that some time during these events he gained/started a quarrel of some kind through unknown means with the Erlking.
I feel like there was a mention in White Night that since that event Ghouls haven't attacked Wizards as often or something like that and this might be reflected in the report.
Would the counsel have this information? How would they have gotten it? It's unlikely that Harry told them and as far as I can remember he never told anyone who actually did the manipulation.
Should there be mention that Dresden was able to survive, at least for a time, direct and single combat with the Naagloshii prior to Listens to Wind's arrival? Maybe another mention of the assessments of his skills being inadequate.
Both Listen to Wind and Ebenezar are friendly to Harry. They might not even tell that much about it to other wizards. They are wizards after all.
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You should have an update including the fairy initiation ceremony.
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Both Listen to Wind and Ebenezar are friendly to Harry. They might not even tell that much about it to other wizards. They are wizards after all.
I do agree that they may not have told the counsel of the fight or at least not the details of it, but you would think this is the sort of thing the wardens would want to know about, I mean this possibly dark wizard time-bomb runs off in the middle of an all out assault on three members of the senior counsel and then when Listens to Wind is found later after having gone to find him they find Harry out cold with injuries and Listen to Wind has a broken arm. You'd think some one would have asked what happened.
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I do agree that they may not have told the counsel of the fight or at least not the details of it, but you would think this is the sort of thing the wardens would want to know about, I mean this possibly dark wizard time-bomb runs off in the middle of an all out assault on three members of the senior counsel and then when Listens to Wind is found later after having gone to find him they find Harry out cold with injuries and Listen to Wind has a broken arm. You'd think some one would have asked what happened.
Might have asked and got some vague or cryptic answer. Wizards are terrible in sharing information. The number of times Harry should have told things to his friends and did not. Ebenezar is even worse. Remember Harry's reaction when Molly in changes explained about the speaking stone. Thomas and the donut in smal Favor.
It is not just Harry and Eb. They are all like that. That makes it so difficult to tell what the council knows about Harry. Each fact or each lie (or combination of those) can have a different spreading among the wizards of the white council.
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Might have asked and got some vague or cryptic answer. Wizards are terrible in sharing information. The number of times Harry should have told things to his friends and did not. Ebenezar is even worse. Remember Harry's reaction when Molly in changes explained about the speaking stone. Thomas and the donut in smal Favor.
It is not just Harry and Eb. They are all like that. That makes it so difficult to tell what the council knows about Harry. Each fact or each lie (or combination of those) can have a different spreading among the wizards of the white council.
Each of those instances is sharing information with non-wizards, I'm not saying that wizards tell each other everything, but you have to admit they are more likely to discuss topics like the speaking stones with another wizard rather than a vanilla mortal.
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Each of those instances is sharing information with non-wizards, I'm not saying that wizards tell each other everything, but you have to admit they are more likely to discuss topics like the speaking stones with another wizard rather than a vanilla mortal.
The point is there are strong indications they are that way to each other as well especially with important information.
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The point is there are strong indications they are that way to each other as well especially with important information.
Yea I can see that. Might just be a personal thing, I would have trouble with not getting a straight answer to something like that incident, especially if I was one of those wardens and had concerns about Harry. Though I suppose if on of my bosses essentially told me to shove my badgering questions where the sun don't shine I'd have to settle for quietly stalking Harry to try to find out.
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Yea I can see that. Might just be a personal thing, I would have trouble with not getting a straight answer to something like that incident, especially if I was one of those wardens and had concerns about Harry. Though I suppose if on of my bosses essentially told me to shove my badgering questions where the sun don't shine I'd have to settle for quietly stalking Harry to try to find out.
And at a certain moment they get used to it and ask fewer and fewer questions and everyone hoards all information they can get. Not only superiors telling nothing to their people but also the other way round. It has become a mindset. It is like Harry's joke in dead beat. But the joke was a way of telling the truth.
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And at a certain moment they get used to it and ask fewer and fewer questions and everyone hoards all information they can get. Not only superiors telling nothing to their people but also the other way round. It has become a mindset. It is like Harry's joke in dead beat. But the joke was a way of telling the truth.
Still there would have to be a certain amount of sharing of information or there wouldn't be any information to put into reports.
I just find it hard to believe the counsel would have found out about Mab meddling with his mind (which had no witnesses to the identity of said meddler, and it's also unlikely given the aforementioned reluctance of wizards with sharing information that Harry would have told anyone), but they would have no information at all in a report on the character of a potentially dangerous wizard about the fight said wizard had with a Naagloshii (which is a rather powerfully dangerous creature). It just feels inconsistent.
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Could we add Sanctum Invocation of Demonreach/Dresden's Version of Arkham Asylum.
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needs an edit
NOTICE OF BANNED AREA Please note the island on lake Michigan (aka DemonReach Island) CAN NOT BE APPROACHED Do not under any circumstances or means approach the island. This island has been claimed by Harry Dresden as a sanctuary and will result in the death of any persons not invited to the island. Magenta security level holders please reference file 29[alpha]773[delta] for further details.
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Love how it says "encounter with X [Deceased]" on ten separate occasions.
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Random Physics Nitpick: His rings store "Kinetic" energy, not potential energy.
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It's kinetic energy when it's actually in motion. It's potential energy while it's being stored.
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It's kinetic energy when it's actually in motion. It's potential energy while it's being stored.
Potential energy is specific to energy stored via it's relative position in a system, due to some force field. This is most commonly gravity, in which the energy is related to the height of the object, but can also be in other force field like Electric or Magnetic, or microscopically within an object (the inter molecular forces of a compressed spring, for example). When released these can and usually do transform most of their energy into Kinetic energy as the field tries to return to a lower energy equilibrium state, though some can be lost in the form of heat , sound, etc.
The Rings charge by capturing the Kinetic Energy directly, somehow magically storing the momentum involved, and release it directly. They impart the energy into whatever objects are in the zone of fire, and that object finds itself moving without there being any of the normal other mechanism involved (yay Magic). Potential Energy isnt the only way to store or transmit Kinetic energy, it is just how it is usually done when you dont have magic to bypass the rules. It would be like assuming that Elaine's Lightning chain stores electricity through a chemical reaction, just because batteries are so common.
Also, in every description the rings are said to store "Kinetic Energy" from motion and emit a pure, magical Force effect. Saying they store Potential Energy is making an assumption on the "How" of it that we cannot be sure of.
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Thats incredibly nitpicky and possibly wrong anyway :P I'm positive Harry uses the word potential atl once somewhere to describe the rings or their energy. Besides kinetic force stored in a ring isn't a scientific definition of potential in physics, but that is what it is, potential. Is the energy active? No. Is it inert? No. Can it be released from is current state as energy? Yes. Is there an active spell containing this energy? No. If you destroy the ring will all that potential energy be released? Probably. Since the energy isn't actively doing anything like flowing or dispersing its stored as potential. Magically yes, but how would real world physics definitions know you can store kinetic energy via magical 'spring'?
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We know that in the DV, conservation of matter/energy still applies (though extended to the Nevernever, in some cases).
So, if we're dealing with MAGIC, I don't see why forms of energy shouldn't be interchangeable. We're already talking about forces that don't obey the laws of physics as we know them. Trying to apply standard Newtonian physics to magic rings seems kinda silly to me.
If you wanted to try to apply real physics to the DV, the energy Harry harnessed for his gravity spell at CI is astronomically large, for example.
Having a decent grasp of the math involved in this stuff, I'm very content to just say "it's magic". Otherwise, you'll drive yourself crazy trying to figure it all out :P.
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That's one way of looking at it. Another is that since magic allows one sidestep the whole thing, the best analogy I thought in the minute since I read the post is that it is a like paper, ripping it apart is pretty easy but try holding the extremes and pull it...
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Thats incredibly nitpicky and possibly wrong anyway :P I'm positive Harry uses the word potential atl once somewhere to describe the rings or their energy. Besides kinetic force stored in a ring isn't a scientific definition of potential in physics, but that is what it is, potential. Is the energy active? No. Is it inert? No. Can it be released from is current state as energy? Yes. Is there an active spell containing this energy? No. If you destroy the ring will all that potential energy be released? Probably. Since the energy isn't actively doing anything like flowing or dispersing its stored as potential. Magically yes, but how would real world physics definitions know you can store kinetic energy via magical 'spring'?
OF course its Nitpicky ;) But not wrong, I ran a search on it. When describing the rings or their energy it is always either "kinetic energy" or later "Telekinetic Force." He refer to the ring's "Potential Energy" once in WN, but that is to describe the upgraded ring's energy capacity relative to the original, not characterizing the type of energy contained within them.
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explain what the energy is doing if not being held in check as potential force?
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explain what the energy is doing if not being held in check as potential force?
The most obvious answer is "Magic" ;) More specifically, I would say may well be held in the form of energy he uses for most of his stuff, the Life/Will magic energy that is the basis of most of it, and the core of how he pulls off Force effects specifically.
The point Im trying to make is that the rings are always described as Kinetic Energy. Potential Energy and Kinetic Energy are closely tied within the bounds of normal Physics, sure, but are far from the same thing, and even in the real world one does not completely become the other, since there is always some lost to other energy forms (heat, light, sounds, etc). Saying that his rings store Potential Energy is making an unsupported assumption on the mechanism of how they function, and is not accurate to the text. Especially since we are talking about Force effects, which bypass more than the usually amount of the natural function of the universe with "magic" since there is no natural mechanism for imparting Force on an object at a distance. It would be like assuming that it is using a Gravity effect in his Forzare spell, which we know is not the case, but mostly because we have seen him mess with gravity and know it to be a subset of Earth Magic.
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Not really, your complicating the issue and trying to use a physics term for potential kinetic energy that doesn't apply. That the energy is released, let go, when the rings are used show that the energy is potent. Held in check by the enchantment and simply released, like a spring. Why would he take raw kinetics, punching a bag turn it into magic to store it and then back to kinetics to use it? your explanations don't make sense.
It would be like assuming that it is using a Gravity effect in his Forzare spell, which we know is not the case,
And yet you assume that descriptions in physics in a world without magic is applied to magical descriptions in a world were physics and magic mesh?
Saying that his rings store Potential Energy is making an unsupported assumption on the mechanism of how they function
They actually hold back a bit of energy everytime he moves his arm. Meaning his arm is moving with slightly more resistance as the ring holds back potential force.
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I would say clearly it is time manipulation, the rings are just pushing the energy a second ahead so that it in effect doesn't exist in the here and now while being perfectly stored. Since space and time are related when released they always do so in the manner they were created to do without problem to where it came from.
Or I guess if you want to be closer to the books then he is simply doing what he does every time he describes either using the power of a storm or redirecting heat to make both ice and fire. Energy redirected, not changed, or even affected at all. Saying anything else is assuming how(ring) magic works.
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Energy redirected, not changed, or even affected at all. Saying anything else is assuming how magic works.
??? that is how magic works? He either forms it directly from his willpower/charge or he slurps in raw magic and creates his spell. Redirection is easier but thats not what he does usually. Otherwise a gout of fire would create an area of cold as heat is displaced. Redirection is what he did in changes tearing the heat from those vampires and casting it at the next. :o I think your making wrong assumptions about how magic works?
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??? that is how magic works? He either forms it directly from his willpower/charge or he slurps in raw magic and creates his spell. Redirection is easier but thats not what he does usually. Otherwise a gout of fire would create an area of cold as heat is displaced. Redirection is what he did in changes tearing the heat from those vampires and casting it at the next. :o I think your making wrong assumptions about how magic works?
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I thought we were talking about the rings? That was what I was talking about, the start is kinetic energy and the end result is kinetic energy without any difference in how much, arguing what it is in the meantime is making a baseless assumption since the rings were never really explained and all terms refering to them fall under what is considered casual use and thus not suitable to argue specific terms.
And by the way doesn't that happens? I am pretty sure I recall instances of him doing exactly that.
Also I edited the post to make it more clear exactly what I am talking about plus no comment about the first theory? It is technically possible.
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Also I edited the post to make it more clear exactly what I am talking about plus no comment about the first theory? It is technically possible.
Yea that fits better and nope, no comment. That Harry knows or uses anything to do with time, chronomancy or putting things in stasis is highly improbable given current info and the nature of time manipulation in the DV, so I ignored that part.
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Not really, your complicating the issue and trying to use a physics term for potential kinetic energy that doesn't apply. That the energy is released, let go, when the rings are used show that the energy is potent. Held in check by the enchantment and simply released, like a spring. Why would he take raw kinetics, punching a bag turn it into magic to store it and then back to kinetics to use it? your explanations don't make sense.And yet you assume that descriptions in physics in a world without magic is applied to magical descriptions in a world were physics and magic mesh? They actually hold back a bit of energy everytime he moves his arm. Meaning his arm is moving with slightly more resistance as the ring holds back potential force.
...you lost me ???
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...you lost me ???
You were already lost I just pointed it out lol ;) chrnno has it right though.
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Honestly, I just see the rings as similar to ATP in our bodies. The ATP stores potential energy in the form of chemical bonds. The rings store potential energy in the form of magic.
However, the rings appear to be extremely efficient. Not perfect, but close to 100% efficient.
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^ In the end its the same difference, quantus is just trying to be all quantum mechanics on us with the definition of potential energy.
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Actually Im just trying to point out that Potential Engergy and kinetic energy are related but not he same thing, and to assume that the rings function using principles different from what is said in the text is inaccurate.
And Quantum Physics be damded, this is two steps back in Newtonian realms;)
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I do wonder though, maybe it is just me not having paid enough attention/too long since I last read but if they store a part of the energy of movements does that mean all movements? And plus does he have any control over how much it is? I mean someone moving by their own power or someone doing so for them has no true difference so shouldn't the rings be a rather good defense against brute force attacks?
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This seems too obvious, I think the fact I am somewhat sleep deprived is not allowing me to actually think it through.
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Actually Im just trying to point out that Potential Engergy and kinetic energy are related but not he same thing, and to assume that the rings function using principles different from what is said in the text is inaccurate.
To assume the purely physics definition of potential is applied is also innacurate. Take away your scientific vocabulary and look at the word from joe smoe's perspective. Its potential kinetic energy. That your science doesn't encompass this doesn't surprise me. Occams razor, the ring hold kinetic energy, its considered potential because its not active, disapating or inert. Its held in check like a spring. It doesn't have to be built up or focused in any way, its a hair trigger, its a damn magical spring.
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You guys do realize you are arguing different things, right? At least I see it as that.
One is talking about if the rings fit what is considered potential energy in physics while the other is arguing that it should be expanded so that it does.
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One is talking about if the rings fit what is considered potential energy in physics while the other is arguing that it should be expanded so that it does.
I am acutely aware of this, my part of the debate needed to be made though. Technically he's taking physics at face value and implying that the energy in the ring is something other than stored kinetics and I'm countering that by saying converting kinetic energy to pure magic and back is pointless. That a purely real world definition of potential energy wouldn't encompass the reality of the DV were magic and physics mesh.
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Great report, one slight problem. Molly was convicted of violating the Fourth Law of Magic, not the Third. While the difference is a pretty fine line, She technically entralled Rosie and Nelson, bending them to her will, not invaded their minds and read their thoughts.
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Great report, one slight problem. Molly was convicted of violating the Fourth Law of Magic, not the Third. While the difference is a pretty fine line, She technically entralled Rosie and Nelson, bending them to her will, not invaded their minds and read their thoughts.
True.
“I have brought a prisoner before the Council, one who has broken the Fourth Law. I have brought her here to seek justice, Merlin.”
You guys do realize you are arguing different things, right? At least I see it as that.
One is talking about if the rings fit what is considered potential energy in physics while the other is arguing that it should be expanded so that it does.
At the end of the day Im mostly just arguing that the description is inaccurate by the text, and is based on assumptions of how Magic relates to Physics.
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Possible addition, putting Murphy under Known Associates. At the very least they should be interested that she's a potential KoC and was at CI, though I'm fairly certain she met some of the Council prior to that.
Also, should Vadderung be on there? At the very least he should be mentioned under Marcone's as an example of his supernatural contacts.
Finally, I think there's a typo in Eb's KA section. It just cuts off in the middle of a sentence.
Ebenezer McCoy
Volunteered to mentor Dresden after he murdered his previous mentor. Previously trained Dresden’s mother. Has shown an overt emotional attachment to Dresden as evidenced by
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Possible addition, putting Murphy under Known Associates. At the very least they should be interested that she's a potential KoC and was at CI, though I'm fairly certain she met some of the Council prior to that.
She met Ebenezer, Ramirez, Lucio, some wardens close to Lucio, Morgan,...
Only the ones I remember.
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The Wardens set up shop at her house in DB, so they are certainly aware of her.
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Plus, I just remembered that she helped take down Mavra, thus proving her ability to handle combat with supernaturals (albeit with help from Dresden and Kincaid)
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Plus, I just remembered that she helped take down Mavra, thus proving her ability to handle combat with supernaturals (albeit with help from Dresden and Kincaid)
And considering here long-term relationship with Kincaid, its very likely the wardens have a whole other file on her.
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:o Thomas Raith lived with Harry during his training at cosmetology school, but I do not remember any reference saying that they actually had a sexual relationship. They both knew they were brothers at that point. I do remember Harry visiting Thomas's shop later, the staff assuming they were lovers, and it being something of a joke between Harry and Thomas.
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:o Thomas Raith lived with Harry during his training at cosmetology school, but I do not remember any reference saying that they actually had a sexual relationship. They both knew they were brothers at that point. I do remember Harry visiting Thomas's shop later, the staff assuming they were lovers, and it being something of a joke between Harry and Thomas.
It's both joke and obliviousness. Two men being roommates? Especially when one is (supposedly) a gay hairstylist/a White Court 'sex god/incubus' vampire? How can there not be anything going on?
Put it simply, the idea of a Wizard and a Vampire being brothers is something the White Council isn't quite ready to accept yet. I bet it's the first time (at least since Merlin) that's it's ever happened.
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The council was afraid of Harry long before most of this happened. Basically, because of his fire magic that he used to kill Dumorne at 16....and because his mother was Maggie LeFae.
Still this is a good reference list.
However, pretty sure the only ones in the White Council who knew Dresden has a kid besides Molly, were Ebenezer & Luccio. Possibly the Gatekeeper. Doubt they'd tell.
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They are all wizards. They have union rules against telling anybody anything ;D
I don't think there is anything really useful in the warden files about Harry. Lucio had only heard rumours about how Morgan behaved around Harry for example and apparently rumours are more reliable than warden files.
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Wardens dont know about it, but Harry can now in all honesty say that he gave one of the Archangels a Bloody nose :)
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The confrontation with Shagnasty at the Raith mansion ought to be mentioned as another Turn Coat event, as Luccio was present to report on what happened.
Note that, while Harry's rings technically store "potential energy", calling it "kinetic energy" would be a much more useful phrasing for purposes of the Wardens' files. Calling it "potential energy" makes it sound like Harry could convert its stored power into heat, light, electricity or whatever else he wants, not just kinetic force. Better to use a term with less scientific precision than to give readers a skewed picture of what Dresden is capable of.
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The confrontation with Shagnasty at the Raith mansion ought to be mentioned as another Turn Coat event, as Luccio was present to report on what happened.
Perhaps but he didnt actually accomplish much there, other than to simply be present. He almost got choked out, had his attack redirected at his (temp) ally, and then had a hostage trade proposed after which the thing left of its own accord. And since the whole thing was about getting Thomas back, and Luccio promised not to share that with the council unless she absolutely had to, she likely didnt mention it except in passing.
Oh, speaking of, there's a Typo in the Turn Coat entry: "Assignation" should be "Assassination"
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The confrontation with Shagnasty at the Raith mansion ought to be mentioned as another Turn Coat event, as Luccio was present to report on what happened.
Note that, while Harry's rings technically store "potential energy", calling it "kinetic energy" would be a much more useful phrasing for purposes of the Wardens' files. Calling it "potential energy" makes it sound like Harry could convert its stored power into heat, light, electricity or whatever else he wants, not just kinetic force. Better to use a term with less scientific precision than to give readers a skewed picture of what Dresden is capable of.
Yeah, except that it wouldn't be skewed if you think about it. You're absolutely right. Harry SHOULD be able to convert the stored energy into various other forms, maybe he never worked out the formulae or maybe he's never considered it (he does that alot) but a wizard like Luccio would.
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Yeah, except that it wouldn't be skewed if you think about it. You're absolutely right. Harry SHOULD be able to convert the stored energy into various other forms, maybe he never worked out the formulae or maybe he's never considered it (he does that alot) but a wizard like Luccio would.
We've had a really long debate about this more than once, and it never gets anywhere. The problem is that there is no actual standard definition for what Potential Energy means, various scientific and engineering disciplines use it differently. Which is why, I think, that he no longer uses the term Potential Energy, and sticks to Kinetic Energy rings.
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Perhaps but he didnt actually accomplish much there, other than to simply be present. He almost got choked out, had his attack redirected at his (temp) ally, and then had a hostage trade proposed after which the thing left of its own accord. And since the whole thing was about getting Thomas back, and Luccio promised not to share that with the council unless she absolutely had to, she likely didnt mention it except in passing.
Sure, he didn't accomplish much ... except to demonstrate an alarming-to-paranoid-Wardens familiarity with Lara Raith. Thomas was an outcast when he and Harry were "involved"; knowing that Lara and Harry have some sort of connection that outlasted Thomas's residency at Harry's place could be grounds for more conspiracy theories.
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Sure, he didn't accomplish much ... except to demonstrate an alarming-to-paranoid-Wardens familiarity with Lara Raith. Thomas was an outcast when he and Harry were "involved"; knowing that Lara and Harry have some sort of connection that outlasted Thomas's residency at Harry's place could be grounds for more conspiracy theories.
True, but from the POV of the Council's records he was simply accompanying his Captain to a meeting with one of the local Supernatural powers in his territory, in order to pursue the Council's fugitive. And the fact of the matter is neither of them were really supposed to be investigating that particular thing, so it's possible neither of them actually submitted the standard reports
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True, but from the POV of the Council's records he was simply accompanying his Captain to a meeting with one of the local Supernatural powers in his territory, in order to pursue the Council's fugitive. And the fact of the matter is neither of them were really supposed to be investigating that particular thing, so it's possible neither of them actually submitted the standard reports
What standard reports?
When Harry asked if she would tell about his brother she said something like "only if it becomes relevant" basically she can report what she wants to.
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With the death of Peabody, I'm not sure there is going to be so much paperwork. ::)
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There needs to be an addition:
"Dresden is believed to be the only mortal ever to give a bloody nose to an archangel."
(How do the British discuss trauma-induced nosebleeds without bringing in a (mild) offensive term, btw?)
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(How do the British discuss trauma-induced nosebleeds without bringing in a (mild) offensive term, btw?)
What on earth is offensive about a nosebleed? ???
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What on earth is offensive about a nosebleed? ???
The British have been known to use the swear "Bloody Hell", I guess that is what is being referred to. Even though there is enough difference that I doubt it's even relevant.
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I dont think it has to be "Blood Hell" so much as "Bloody [Blank]" but they have to be able to recognize the difference between the swear word and the literal usage. Otherwise their doctors officially have the worst bedside manner on the planet "Get that Bloody patient a tourniquet!"
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I dont think it has to be "Blood Hell" so much as "Bloody [Blank]" but they have to be able to recognize the difference between the swear word and the literal usage. Otherwise their doctors officially have the worst bedside manner on the planet "Get that Bloody patient a tourniquet!"
Mind you, I could see an English doctor saying that.
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Mind you, I could see an English doctor saying that.
Hehe, well true that was probably a bad example. How about "I got a Bloody Nose!" which should refer to blood coming out rather than simply cursing the sudden discovery of body parts :P
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The Wardens set up shop at her house in DB, so they are certainly aware of her.
They did? They stayed at a hotel. Harry met them at Mac's. Harry went back to the house with his new warden's cloak and hilarity ensued from Bob's stream of one liners. He met them a second time at the college when he rode up on Sue.
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They did? They stayed at a hotel. Harry met them at Mac's. Harry went back to the house with his new warden's cloak and hilarity ensued from Bob's stream of one liners. He met them a second time at the college when he rode up on Sue.
And then right at the end, they're at Murphy's house getting patched up.
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It was in Small Favor that the Wardens set up shop in Murphy's house, not Dead Beat.
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When Harry asked if she would tell about his brother she said something like "only if it becomes relevant" basically she can report what she wants to.
Events at Raith Manor would certainly be relevant to Shagnasty's Warden file. The skinwalker has pursued prey hundreds of miles outside its home territory, assaulted a White Council apprentice by throwing a ravenous vampire at her, murdered a minor practitioner (which the Council asserted its jurisdiction over in White Night), and has fought both Dresden and Listens-To-Wind. That sucker's earned itself a place on the Wardens' terrorist watch list.
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They did? They stayed at a hotel. Harry met them at Mac's. Harry went back to the house with his new warden's cloak and hilarity ensued from Bob's stream of one liners. He met them a second time at the college when he rode up on Sue.
Ya, I thought it was after the final confrontation where Thomas had left to avoid Warden notice and they used it to lick wounds. Murphy shows up after she gets back from Hawaii to complain that they'd left the place trashed, and I had always interpreted that to mean the Wardens, but it never specifically says they did so. And when Harry mentioned in TC that the wardens knew where Murphy lived, I had thus always thought that was talking about DB, because that was the only time since SK that a force of wardens was around, but apparently Luccio when to murphy's place in SmF, off screen
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The file should be updated to mention Harry's role in the breaking and reforging of Fidelacchius and the destruction of Nicodemus's reputation.
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Slight correction:
Report of multiple sorcerer confrontation (Age 30)
• Appointed Regional Warden Commander by Captain Anastasia Luccio
• Initiated multi-warden combat with Class 1 Sorcerers (Necromancers)
o Grevane (deceased)
o Capiorcorpus (deceased)
o Cowl (Reported at large by Dresden)
• All Wardens present except Dresden, Luccio, Morgan and Ramirez were disabled or killed -- Luccio's former body killed by Dresden after being possessed by Capiorcorpus.
• Initiated Necromansic animation of 65 million year old T-Rex (Sue) and used zombie to disrupt “Darkhallow” ritual
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No update on his part in kicking Nic out of the accords?
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In one of his latest videos Jim talks about how the council might view/views Harry Dresden what I remember is that he mentioned Paranet like a spy network, that real wizards can't read since it's on the internet and that's very suspicous.
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Consider adding Sarissa as a "Known acquaintence."
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How about kicking multiple Denarian's asses. Making Nic run away? Slaying Ursiel's Genoskwa host or Lasciel's rogue sorceress Hanna in Hades? How about being on good terms with Lord Hades or going to Hades alive and getting out?
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Unknown number of hosts to the Order of Blackened Denarius
About covers that the first two pieces. As for the rest, this file is intended to be based on what the Council reasonably knows. The whole incident with Hades isn't necessarily something they'd be privy to--or failing that, the fact that Harry got to shake hands with Hades at least. The episode might become common knowledge with the spreading news of Nic breaking his word...
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This dossier needs a new entry:
After remaining in seclusion for over a year, it has been reported that Queen Mab loaned out the services of her Knight to one Nicodemus Archleone; the reputed leader of the Order of the Blackened Denarius. Together with a crew that contained several other Denarians, assorted mercenaries; and if it can be believed, a Knight of the Cross, Nicodemus and Harry Dresden led a break-in into the vault of Hades. Yes, the Greek god of the underworld Hades. It is not known what was taken from Hades vault, but the Denarians with Nicodemus were are all killed. Witnesses who wish to remain anonymous have stated that Nicodemus broke his agreement with Mab to remain at truce with her Knight while they were in Hades vault. They further testify that Harry Dresden personally killed two of the Denarians and drove Nicodemus off. It is not known if necromantic methods were needed to escape from Hades realm.
After the affair ended, we received reports that there is a new Knight of the Cross and though we don't know the circumstances of how this person came to wield one of the Swords, it has been stated that Harry Dresden was somehow instrumental in this individual becoming a Knight. We are also hearing fantastic stories about this Knight's particular sword, but we can put these down to hysterical witnesses exaggerating the brightness of these swords which without exaggeration are quite extraordinary.
Finally, we heard that Warden Dresden met with Mab and Baron John Marcone; who is a known Dresden associate, though we don't know what matters they discussed. The new Winter Lady; Dresden's former apprentice, was seen leaving the meeting though no one saw her enter the building where the meeting was held. In any case, with the addition of this new Knight, Baron Marcone's continued support and the presumed loyalty of the new Winter Lady, the list of Harry Dresden's allies continues to grow. We cannot ascertain his ultimate purpose, but it now seems certain that Harry Dresden is establishing his own power base for reasons known only to him. We must be prepared for any eventuality. For now we advise bringing Warden Dresden back into the fold by involving him in the security arrangements for the upcoming peace talks to be held in Chicago, with the idea of keeping our friends close and enemies closer.
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Sooooooo not to revive a dead horse, but can someone with a better writing talent than me please update this to the most recent book? Pretty pretty please :) :)
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I get a laugh everytime I read that profile. Makes me think of John Wayne in "Big Jake," "You must think I'm a real dangerous man."
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This topic needs to be updated.
-Dresden has shown disturbing affiliation with a White Court Vampire to the point of disrupting Peace Talks at an Accord summett.
-Dresden has also been rumored to be engaged to Lara Raith the true power of the White Court.
- There is a rumour Dresden fought the Blackstaff and survived.
Dresden fought in the Battle of Chicago his actions there in are included but not limited to:
-Surviving a Kracken.
-Unleashing several thousand of the Little Folk under his command, which gave several powerful beings great pause.
- Killing a squad of Huntsmen. With the help of one of the Forest People, a people known for their aversion to voilence and even an issolationist policy worthy of the Jade Court. An apparent ally of Dresden who has agreed to join Mab's (Dresdens Liege lord) Unseelie Accords
-Leading a compliment of Wardens mostly to their death at the hands of Mavra. A vampire Dresden has been known to fight Dresden yet conveniently both of them lived.
-Dresden fought one of the prominent Jotuns and lived.
-Dresden took command of a large number of Fae and Humans in possible violation of the Fourth Law. A law his former apprentice now Winter Lady Molly Carpenter has experience with, and was spared execution only by Dresdens intervention.
-Dresden bound a TITAN with the use of his superweapon The Island now known as Demonreach.
-Dresdens longtime ally Karrin Murphy has been enlisted as an Einherjaaren.
-Dresden attended a closed meeting of supernatural powers to discuss the fall out of the Battle of Chicago. The result of which atleast on policy of seemingly bribing human populist.
-Dresden took control of a Castle once belonging to Baron John Marcone a criminal. The Castle is a heavily fortified position. Almost as strong as the Island of which Dresden has control of.