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The Dresden Files => DFRPG => Topic started by: Korwin on April 08, 2010, 10:13:04 AM
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Anyone allready made on?
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No that I have seen I'm working on a MS Word Template but its not done yet.
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Yes, I did. I've uploaded it to the FATE Yahoo group. Does that help?
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Link, please?
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http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/
It is in the files section, in the folder Fate DFRPG. Though you have to be a member of the group to access the files.
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I would just like to say a huge thank you to not only fred and the guys at evil hat who have been amazing and clear worked so hard on what is clearly a labour of love but also to all the guys on the forum who have helped a newbie GM who loves the books to understand how stuff works and helping me get my players really exited about playing in our UK Nottingham game
THANK YOU ALL
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Oops I posted this in the wrong place.
But character sheet is awesome :)
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Great PDF sheet but I was looking for something that could be saved and edited (content not form) so that it could be an evolving electronic document. I am slowly learning how to put together MS Word templates (characters) and Open Office Base files (City) but it is slow going I would appriciate anyone else out there with more skill whipping something up.
thanks
Will post what I have when I'm done.
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With the one on the Yahoo group mentioned above you can type into it as well as save. There a plenty of free applications on the internet that'll let you save data typed into a fillable PDF.
Thanks for it Carabas. Much appreciated.
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With the one on the Yahoo group mentioned above you can type into it as well as save. There a plenty of free applications on the internet that'll let you save data typed into a fillable PDF.
Thanks can anyone recommend one. Also in my research I discovered that you can enable "Right" that will allow us to save the forms if the author or someone with Acrobat Pro could do this and re-post I would be grateful
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It would also be nice if such a file was posted somewhere one could get it without being part of the yahoo group.
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May I suggest something along the lines of Myth-weavers? Pretty useful for online rp'ing.
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I posted a request on the Myth-weavers forum, hopefully someone who knows how to do it, sees it...
btw. here is the Link to my request. Maybe more voices would help:
http://www.myth-weavers.com/showthread.php?t=93753
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@dresdenfiles on twitter just posted a link to this (http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=510090).
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Sweet thanks for the link.
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Its interesting. For the character sheet the one on FateRPG appears significantly better. The text in the event box for the 5 phases resizes, the stress boxes work correctly (you can clear them after you tick them), tghe power levels auto complete and the skill points sort themselves out. In addition you can use the whole of the stunts and powers section and you can actually fill in the armour area. Theres no comparison - its better.
However for the city section the situation appears to be reversed and the sheet currently on RPG.Net appears significantly better - allowing a sensible amount of text in the status quo boxes, splitting the moves and shakers box up so you can place things on boarders and correctly handling the theme or threat boxes.
I guess I'll keep both on my hard drive :)
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Quick question...
Now I have both the city and character sheets together. How do I divide them in two seperate files?
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I'm working on a workbook for Excel that will be able to help create, save, and advance characters. The functionality of what I've worked on so far is decent, but the data entry for powers is going to take a while, especially with having to reword descriptions so as not to infringe on copyright.
I haven't done the character sheet part of it yet, but that's coming...
And the skill section will take a bit too...
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Quick question...
Now I have both the city and character sheets together. How do I divide them in two seperate files
You need a PDF editor to do that so either full Adobe acrobat or check tucows.com for a free/shareware one.
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Its interesting. For the character sheet the one on FateRPG appears significantly better. The text in the event box for the 5 phases resizes, the stress boxes work correctly (you can clear them after you tick them), tghe power levels auto complete and the skill points sort themselves out. In addition you can use the whole of the stunts and powers section and you can actually fill in the armour area. Theres no comparison - its better.
Thanks! :) Great to hear that you like that part of the sheet.
However for the city section the situation appears to be reversed and the sheet currently on RPG.Net appears significantly better - allowing a sensible amount of text in the status quo boxes, splitting the moves and shakers box up so you can place things on boarders and correctly handling the theme or threat boxes.
I guess I'll keep both on my hard drive :)
Hm... I'll have to look at my city sheets and those Matt C. posted to see where I can improve. Out of curiosity: why do you feel that I handle the theme or threat boxes incorrectly?
Anyways, feedback is always appreciated. I whipped the formfillables up before the rules where released, so I guess there might be some things not handled correctly.
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..., but the data entry for powers is going to take a while, especially with having to reword descriptions so as not to infringe on copyright. ...
I don't think you have to reword any of the descriptions. According to this article (http://www.dresdenfilesrpg.com/2010/04/06/as-open-as-we-can-make-it/) there should be no need to reword descriptions as per the Creative Commons Attribution, Non-Commercial license. Basically, just give credit to Jim B. and the The Dresden Files RPG where it is due, and don't try to make money off it, you should be good.
However, I am not sure how this applies to information taken from the pre-order PDFs. I personally am planning to hold off on releasing anything that includes blocks of text (like power/skill/etc descriptions) until after the books are officially released.
Short of Fred or another developer speaking to the contrary, I'm sure plenty of us would rather you got to spend your time making the workbook instead of rewording what the devs have already written. :)
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Very good points all.
I'm just doing it more in my spare time, whenever that is... few and far between at home, and my lunch breaks at work have been in review of the TV shows as of late.
At the latest, it should be done... oh... maybe by the time I get back from vacation in late July. ;D
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Not sure if the creator of the sheet located here: http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=510090&page=4 (http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=510090&page=4) checks this neck of the woods or not, but would it be possible to have the two "sections" of the sheet split? ie. one file for Character Creation, one file for City Creation?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi all
Thanks for the awesome work on the character sheets but has anyone done one with a Hunger Stress Track?
Cheers
Phil
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Here is a modified version of one of the base sheets, can't remember which of the two in this thread I started with. :)
http://offramp.endofinternet.net/Character-Sheets.pdf
Changes:
Left out the city sheets.
Switched the order of the pages, the one you'll use during play is now on top for those who like to use electronic character sheets at the table.
Changed the font to the one used for text in the books.
Changed the text color to black.
If you're looking for a small, very fast replacement for Acrobat Reader, try Foxit. Newer versions aren't reading the Jenson font and replace it
with a default, so I'm using version 2.3.
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/index.php
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Here is a modified version of one of the base sheets, can't remember which of the two in this thread I started with. :)
http://offramp.endofinternet.net/Character-Sheets.pdf
Changes:
Left out the city sheets.
Switched the order of the pages, the one you'll use during play is now on top for those who like to use electronic character sheets at the table.
Changed the font to the one used for text in the books.
Changed the text color to black.
If you're looking for a small, very fast replacement for Acrobat Reader, try Foxit. Newer versions aren't reading the Jenson font and replace it
with a default, so I'm using version 2.3.
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/index.php
Thank you very much!
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Am I the only one getting a message saying that "This document contained certain rights [and] has been changed since it was created and these rights are no longer valid. Please contact the author for the original version..."?
???
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I also got this message.
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Seems like CableRouter's version only works with Foxit, not Adobe. Not a big deal, but something worth noting.
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Oops, was playing with it and had it filled out for a character, used Foxit to delete the fields and Adobe pitches a fit.
Ok, resaved it with Acrobat and reupped it to the site, same link as above but it should work with Acrobat Reader now!
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Are your major NPC sheets coming out with a forums one I can type in? I prefer to type than write so I have a hard copy of my everything in case the paper version is lost.
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Anyone allready made on?
Yep, I made an Open Office version that can track or aid in creation of a character of any/all of the four levels.
I have not yet gotten it to sync stresses :(
Actually designed it to accept 4 characters and parse each of their stories (Aspect #3) onto one printable page so they can be circulated around a table and discussed/joined to get the cross stories (#4 & #5).
If you have more than 4 players a second copy would be needed for those characters/stories.
The version that handles all four phases (Feet in Water through Submerged) I created for myself for character building.
Only concern is legality of distributing, but I have no problem discussing WHAT I did and HOW (example: I used "m m m m m m m m" in Wingdings for Stress trackers to get those nice round fill holes)
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any chance of asking for a copy? ;D
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I need a fill-able character sheet where you can up the level of the skill cap (like add fantastic to it if the game ever reaches this point).Has anyone put such a thing together?
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any chance of asking for a copy? ;D
Like I said ...
Only concern is legality of distributing, but I have no problem discussing WHAT I did and HOW (example: I used "m m m m m m m m" in Wingdings for Stress trackers to get those nice round fill holes)
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I need a fill-able character sheet where you can up the level of the skill cap (like add fantastic to it if the game ever reaches this point).Has anyone put such a thing together?
If you are using spreadsheet it is fairly easy to create nested IFs to handle the cases.
For example, if cell B118 is the text for power level then:
- =IF(OR(B118="Chest-Deep";B118="Submerged");"Superb";"Great")
could be put in cell F118
- =IF(F118="Great";"+4";IF(F118="Superb";"+5";"???"))
could be put in the cell where you put the numeric skill cap and
- =IF(B118="Feet in the Water";20;IF(B118="Up to Your Waist";25;IF(B118="Chest-Deep";30;IF(B118="Submerged";35;"Err"))))
In the cell where "Total Skill Points Available goes.
You can have another cell sum up skill points (multiplying by cost).
A similar cell could be set for Base Refresh Level
- =IF(B118="Feet in the Water";6;IF(B118="Up to Your Waist";7;IF(B118="Chest-Deep";8;IF(B118="Submerged";10;"Err"))))
Similarly Total Refresh Adjustment could be summed and then Adjusted Refresh determined.
If you know what you are doing you should be able to whip one up in a few hours (4-8 hrs).
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I need a fill-able character sheet where you can up the level of the skill cap (like add fantastic to it if the game ever reaches this point).Has anyone put such a thing together?
If you ever get a skill that high, you're not going to be fuzzy about which one it is, just put it on the first line of the powers section; which probably isn't a bad place to list a skill that high.
Only concern is legality of distributing,
Ah, that reminds me of the good old days of Lorraine Williams from TSR trying to copyright terms like hit points, armor class and saving throw to try to sue people for posting their home brewed AD&D modules on the fledgling internet. Worst case scenario, someone from Evil Hat sees it and tells you to stop. If you're waiting to get official permission, I seriously doubt the legal department would allow it. :)
If you are using spreadsheet it is fairly easy to create nested IFs to handle the cases.
I'm a big fan of lookup tables myself. Makes it easier for me to wade back into a project after a few months and understand what I did.
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well i made one that isn't quite as printer friendly as the other pdf but i like it http://www.mediafire.com/?kzmnutbjkgo (http://www.mediafire.com/?kzmnutbjkgo)
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Only concern is legality of distributing...
@all that are interested :)
DFRPG is released under the Open Gaming License which is pretty open, and I'm assuming that choice in license was intentional.
A couple things when making decisions about releasing stuff.
1) If you are not verbatim copy/pasting from the books then there is no issue at all and you are in the clear. Describing things in your own words, automating game mechanics, using identifying terms (like Template, High Concept, Aspect, Wizard, names and mechanics of skills/stunts/powers, etc), or using creations of Jim Butcher (like Harry Dresden, White Council, etc) are all ok and clearly covered under the Open Gaming License of the rpg or the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial license of Jim Butcher fan creations. Basically, those licenses mean it is ok to use that stuff as long as you give credit and don't try to make a profit.
2) A good rule of thumb is to ask yourself the following question. Would what you release make someone go, "Ooo, I don't need to buy the books now!!"? If so then probably shouldn't release it. On the other hand, if what you want to release would make people say, "Cool, when I get the books that will really help out!!", then you should be alright.
3) I would like to note that this thread is devoted to utilities for handling characters and such, and it has been stickied by the staff for what that is worth to anyone. If nothing else, you got to figure that this thread is read by some moderator that would pass the word if "bad stuff" was posted.
4) If you still aren't sure, post up what parts of the books you are recreating and I'm sure people can let you know in general if it could be an issue or not.
5) If all else fails, feel free to pm me a link to what you got. I am not a lawyer, but I've dealt with licenses for several years now and am always happy to lend an opinion. Something being clearly not ok or totally ok is pretty easy to spot once you've read through the legalize of the licenses a few dozen times.
Hope that helps. Just my opinion as some nobody on the web, but if I'm wrong in any of this please some one official jump up and smack me down with correct info as I have no desire to spread incorrectness. :)
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well i made one that isn't quite as printer friendly as the other pdf but i like it http://www.mediafire.com/?kzmnutbjkgo (http://www.mediafire.com/?kzmnutbjkgo)
That looks pretty good. Couple things, I noticed you can't save it and on the second page you can't type text into the Character and Player boxes. All and all, very nice.
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That looks pretty good. Couple things, I noticed you can't save it and on the second page you can't type text into the Character and Player boxes. All and all, very nice.
i didn't put boxes on the second page character and player areas on purpose. as far as saving i'm not sure what program are you using? adobe reader won't save but the basic version of foxit will
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Hey all, with regard to saving some of the fillable forms, I've never used Foxit (thanks shuzumi, I'm going to try that later) but I know that 'Cute PDF' will save.
http://www.cutepdf.com/
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as far as saving i'm not sure what program are you using? adobe reader won't save but the basic version of foxit will
hmm, I am using Adobe Reader, but it allows saving of the other fillable worksheets in this thread, so I just thought I would mention it. :)
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hmm, I am using Adobe Reader, but it allows saving of the other fillable worksheets in this thread, so I just thought I would mention it. :)
weird last time i used it it never saved anything perhaps i broke it...
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hmm, I am using Adobe Reader, but it allows saving of the other fillable worksheets in this thread, so I just thought I would mention it. :)
Foxit works just fine on the sheets I created. Acrobat won't open a sheet that's been edited and then saved with Foxit for some reason known only to Adobe.
That said, Foxit is the superior product and I give it a two thumbs up recommendation to anyone using my character sheet. :)
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Foxit works just fine on the sheets I created. Acrobat won't open a sheet that's been edited and then saved with Foxit for some reason known only to Adobe.
That said, Foxit is the superior product and I give it a two thumbs up recommendation to anyone using my character sheet. :)
Yea, in general Adobe isn't very good at working with others, but almost everyone has their reader and personally I've never had need to look into another reader. However, it sounds like this Foxit is a good one, so I'm going to give it a try. :)
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Yea, in general Adobe isn't very good at working with others, but almost everyone has their reader and personally I've never had need to look into another reader. However, it sounds like this Foxit is a good one, so I'm going to give it a try. :)
Just wait until you see how fast it loads compared to Acrobat. :)
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I got to Foxit when I found out the hard way, that Adobe does not like to be printed on an HP printer. (A few months ago I bought a HP color laser printer at a sale, and just after printing 50 pages or so (which took it's time) I saw that every paper was white. And then I googled that there is appearantly a problem with Adobe and HP.)
I've been working with Foxit ever since and no complaints.
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Have Adobe Acrobat, Photoshop and Illustrator printing on an HP Laser Printer and an HP Ink Jet for years never had an issue at all with my home computer and I am using Vista.
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any chance of asking for a copy? ;D
I sent message to Evil Hat to see if they had any interest.
I have a little* experience designing PC Records ;D and for my own purposes have already started on more compact 2-sheet variants that handles increasing amounts of tasks "automatically". Another feature I was interested in was some means to automatically pull stories from multiple characters and feed them directly into a printable sheet that can be distributed electronically or printed and cut into individual stories. A third aspect was creating room on a character sheet for Foci, Enchanted Items, Potions, and/or equipment. I will probably have to look at additional condensing to fit all but story on one sheet.
(* - aka, Hackmaster and Kalamar)
July 15th Update: I have tentative permission to distribute my Excel / Open Office version. I sent Evil Hat a copy but I feel I probably need to make a few adjustments to it first (like adding a copyright for Evil Hat at the bottom, and probably removing some of the text). I will keep people posted as to when I have it available, but as I have no plans to host it at this time.
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I should think hosting won't be much of a problem :) I'm sure there's a bunch of us around here who'd host it for you should the need arise :)
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I should think hosting won't be much of a problem :) I'm sure there's a bunch of us around here who'd host it for you should the need arise :)
That would work. All I really feel I need to do is add a copyright notice at the bottom to suit me.
PM me if you have a website and want to host an Open Office or Excel spreadsheet 4-up character sheet :)
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Just gotta figure out how to restrict certain files for anonymous downloads (like your sheet). I don't think it'd be fair to have everyone register for my site just to be able to download your sheet :) (it's setup using Tiki-Wiki CMS, and contains all my notes not just for Dresden, but also my Doctor Who campaigns)...
I'll PM ya once I get it sorted :)
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Just gotta figure out how to restrict certain files for anonymous downloads (like your sheet). I don't think it'd be fair to have everyone register for my site just to be able to download your sheet :) (it's setup using Tiki-Wiki CMS, and contains all my notes not just for Dresden, but also my Doctor Who campaigns)...
I'll PM ya once I get it sorted :)
Well, until such time here is a sample ... an image of a character in an alternate format I have been tweaking. I have a more pure version as well, but what's the point of posting THAT image? ;)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs109.ash2/38810_134727369897659_100000811912784_155267_1460490_n.jpg)
Sorry for the small scale as I had to shrink the zoom to fit it all in.
I condensed Aspects a bit to fit the power level stuff up there. It is obvious I have to reexamine the nested IF-THEN-ELSE statements for Skill Cap and bonus as they are reading incorrectly (yah, this form has them set on automatic ... also counts skills, calculates points spend and available, and handles the Fate points all automatically, as well as calculating Stress based on input skill levels (next task is to automate that)).
I added sections for Items, Skill Notes, and expanded armor. Will almost certainly tweak more as I go along.
Yep, Caricature is an intentional misspelling.
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Can you tweek it to include Fantastic for the skills section?
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Can you tweek it to include Fantastic for the skills section?
Can I? ... Yes.
Why? Has somebody developed character progression beyond Submerged?
(if so I would like to see the table :) )
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Can I? ... Yes.
Why? Has somebody developed character progression beyond Submerged?
(if so I would like to see the table :) )
Yeah, a couple of games are going on at high levels. 60 skills and between 16 and 18 Refresh seems to be typical "Ridiculously Deep" level, but each individual game will have it's own variants. Heck, a starting Submerged game will likely get there eventually...
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Yeah, a couple of games are going on at high levels. 60 skills and between 16 and 18 Refresh seems to be typical "Ridiculously Deep" level, but each individual game will have it's own variants. Heck, a starting Submerged game will likely get there eventually...
If people send me (PM, post & link, etc) an expanded table of the caps, skill points, and refresh I can program them in. :) I can almost make Excel / Open Office stand up and dance the jig given sufficient information (and I avoid Macros where possible so it stays more portable).
For a good example, look at the Kalamar Atlas and realize that other than cities & towns listed in the KoK CS and other published works ALL of the towns and villages in the Kalamar Atlas, including distribution by size, were all randomly named using the various Kalamar naming conventions and assigned populations (with naming conventions held and varied for population size) using a spreadsheet. Might not sound that impressive until you realize that due to the cut off determined by Dave maybe 80% of the named villages (down to 10 population) were not used. ;D Yup, I am one insane Dwarf.
So, people can feel free to PM me what they would like to see on character sheets (what works, what doesn't) and I will look at the PMs and contemplate adding such to modified generic sheets. It may take me months depending on work loads, but I am game for it at least for the anon.
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Here's Dwarf's sheet, finally got around to putting it up.
http://www.musterpuffer.de/RP/df/Character-set_StoryCards.xls
have fun.
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you need a username and password to access....
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you need a username and password to access....
strange, it shouldn't... i'll look into it
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strange, it shouldn't... i'll look into it
looked into it, password is gone now.
enjoy
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Interesting...
If I may, at some point I may want to improve on this a bit, make it a bit more automatic, throw in some drop-down boxes for selections, and the like...
Good work on it though.
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Interesting...
If I may, at some point I may want to improve on this a bit, make it a bit more automatic, throw in some drop-down boxes for selections, and the like...
Good work on it though.
Purpose in the Character set was just to replicate what exists. The next "hurdle" is to try and improve, to wit I already have a prototype for the "character sheet" so my next part would be to improve the Phases Worksheet into more of a Story Log so that new characters can be introduced and possibly changes (or at least milestones) recorded as stories ... possibly with Fate Point bonuses for doing so.
Will also try hand at the expanded character sheet request (above) as well.
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Okidoki, now that i have given Dwarf's Sheet a place to stay...
Here's the competition :)
www.musterpuffer.de/RP/df/DFRPG_Sheet_simple.ods
This one is for A4 Paper. (The two fonts used are "Percolator Expert" and "Preston Script", also Wingdings for the Stress "boxes")
* Power Level can be selected by dropdown menu.
* Skills can be selected by dropdown menu, and skill cost is calculated for you.
* Refresh Cost is calculated.
* Fields for additional refresh and additional skill points (those are not printed, only used for calculation of available skill points and adjusted refresh).
* Additional powerlevels can be added at your leisure.
To Come:
A sheet with a second space for skills (For were Forms and the like)
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Not bad with the Open Office one either... but a fair amount of room for improvement... plus you have cells that are too small for the text contained within. Slight design issue that can be easily fixed, I would wager.
What I'm considering is this:
A page to choose character options, such as Power Level.
A page for each Aspect, such as Concept and Trouble, one for each story, etc.
A page for Skills
A page for Mortal Stunts
A page for Powers
Last page would be the actual character sheet.
I started working on this a while back. Maybe it's time to dredge it up again...
Edit:
I pulled it up from my USB thumbdrive that has my DFRPG material.
Right now, it's an Excel file with all the page tabs figured out. Right now it's more data entry before I work the data manipulation, then design the final character sheet.
Once I get this done and working (and then perhaps port it into OpenOffice), perhaps I'll work on a City Building workbook.
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Not bad with the Open Office one either... but a fair amount of room for improvement... plus you have cells that are too small for the text contained within. Slight design issue that can be easily fixed, I would wager.
There's always room for improvement... ;)
As for the cells, it's meant to be printed out, and when printed the text fits nicely. At least for me.
It's done with the three font's mentioned above, so there might be issues if you don't have those installed.
If you don't have the fonts and don't want them either, just remove the protection from the sheet and adjust the font size. (there is no password, the protection is just there to avoid accidental changes to the cells that contain functions)
What I'm considering is this:
A page to choose character options, such as Power Level.
A page for each Aspect, such as Concept and Trouble, one for each story, etc.
A page for Skills
A page for Mortal Stunts
A page for Powers
Last page would be the actual character sheet.
I started working on this a while back. Maybe it's time to dredge it up again...
Edit:
I pulled it up from my USB thumbdrive that has my DFRPG material.
Right now, it's an Excel file with all the page tabs figured out. Right now it's more data entry before I work the data manipulation, then design the final character sheet.
Once I get this done and working (and then perhaps port it into OpenOffice), perhaps I'll work on a City Building workbook.
I did something in that direction a while back but with a little less detailed pages.
A Character Booklet with pages for all the aspects and a double page in the middle so that you can put it in front of you on the table and have all the info you need to play in one place. Actually, i've been meaning to put it up here... so...
ok... wait... where is it *cluttering sounds, rustling paper* ahh. here.
www.musterpuffer.de/RP/df/charbooklet_A5.pdf
This is a pdf, meant to be printed and then filled out by hand, i've been meaning to adjust the ods file to make it fillable... that's next on my list.
It's meant to be printed as a booklet on A4 paper, so that you can fold it in half and then flip through the pages. With my printer the function is called "broschürendruck" don't know what that would be called in english. "Booklet-printing" perhaps... the wikipedia duplex-printing page calls it "Double-sided booklet (2:2 with a center fold)".
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Not bad with the Open Office one either... but a fair amount of room for improvement
There is ALWAYS room for improvement.
The Open Office one was designed to mimic the book sheet. I will see about cleaning up my advanced one today and sending it to Tsunami.
I hope others find the spreadsheets useful and use them as a basis to design better versions :)
Once I get this done and working (and then perhaps port it into OpenOffice), perhaps I'll work on a City Building workbook.
I got a few so I can send those in today as well :)
Edit: Copies sent
and here is an image of a revised Character Phases sheet I am toying with. It would allow room for additional stories, likely usable for when Aspects change (to record the changes) when certain plateaus are reached. Not "finished" yet because I am still debating what else should be tracked, etc.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs211.snc4/38906_135353966501666_100000811912784_158806_675373_n.jpg)
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http://www.musterpuffer.de/RP/df/sheets/dwarfs/dwarfssheets.html
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Okay, looking good.
This may be a bit of an aesthetic thing with me, but I'm thinking that instead of lots of little cells inside a section, I would consider merging all the cells within a section. You can adjust the text alignment afterward, because merging cells always centers the contents.
I'm still working on the mechanics and data entry for mine. This may take a while.
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Been using CableRouter's character sheet and ran into an unusual problem - the "Story Title" portions of the Phases section does not allow spaces ???.
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Been using CableRouter's character sheet and ran into an unusual problem - the "Story Title" portions of the Phases section does not allow spaces ???.
What are you using to open the file? On my system Foxit Reader 2.3 works fine.
Checking Acrobat...
<low muttering>...
Wow, yet another "feature" from Adobe, why am I not surprised!
Apparently it seriously insists that right justified text end at the right and it won't even let you enter a space on the right edge.
Other than my standard suggestion to get a much more user friendly PDF reader, the following will work.
Go into the Story Title Box (same for Guest Appearing boxes too), hit the x key, hit backspace and type what you want, then
hit the delete key to delete the x. This will also allow you to have spaces at the end of the line, which shouldn't have been an
issue in the first place. Using Adobe products is like smashing my face into a brick wall, it only feels good when I stop.
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my standard suggestion to get a much more user friendly PDF reader
After a virus forced me to do a format and reboot, I finally got around to taking this advice and I have to say that Foxit is as cool as has been suggested in this thread. Tons better then Adobe in loading speed and resource usage. Thanx for the heads up on it. :)
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After a virus forced me to do a format and reboot, I finally got around to taking this advice and I have to say that Foxit is as cool as has been suggested in this thread. Tons better then Adobe in loading speed and resource usage. Thanx for the heads up on it. :)
You're welcome! Adobe is first and foremost a business application, I can respect that, but it's really a shame that PDF remained a proprietary format of Adobe for so long. It became an open format in July 2008 and that's really stunted the development of PDF 'Lite' tools for us casual users.
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What pdf reader should I use to be able to save data? acrobat reader wont do it.
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Here is my fillable and scripted Dresden character sheet (just the character sheet itself). It's set up so you _can_ open and save it in Adobe Reader.
http://lakem.tezhme.net/cargo/DresdenCharSheet.pdf
As for saving data in Adobe Reader, it is possible. But the author of the PDF has to enable the feature using Adobe Acrobat Pro (which I have ^.^)
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I notice your Level is Le vel on the sheet.
My biggest issue is you have all the skills listed. What happens if the player does not have that skill? You do not have an option for that in your drop down menu.
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Also, are you sure you enabled the save? I keep getting the warning that the filled data is not savable to a file.
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I notice your Level is Le vel on the sheet.
My biggest issue is you have all the skills listed. What happens if the player does not have that skill? You do not have an option for that in your drop down menu.
Since any skills you don't have automatically default to mediocre, thats not really an issue
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Also, are you sure you enabled the save? I keep getting the warning that the filled data is not savable to a file.
I thought I had. Well, I'll do it again to be certain. Try it now.
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I whipped up a simple text file for this. It's basically just an open document format version of the normal character sheet in the books with as close to the same layout as I could manage. I used tables a lot and gave new cells for any point where you should want to input things. The advantage is it should be simple to use. Any modern version of Word (with a plugin to read odt files) or OpenOffice can open it and edit it freely. The disadvantage is there's no distinction between the parts you want to edit to write down your character and the rest of it. So if you erase something or muck up a table you'll probably want to just reload from your last save point or use the Edit -> Undo function to fix it.
Edit: Someone reminded me about google docs so I've put it up there. Feel free to suggest changes if you wish. Please note that I've included the Evil Hat copyright since all the actual info is just copied from their sheet but any formatting errors are mine alone. Here's an ugly but serviceable link:
http://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7AiE-TiGA7MYzVjN2VlYmQtMTNkYi00OWE5LWJiN2YtMGM0MWFiYzBlNmFi&hl=en&authkey=CJKrwKkE (http://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7AiE-TiGA7MYzVjN2VlYmQtMTNkYi00OWE5LWJiN2YtMGM0MWFiYzBlNmFi&hl=en&authkey=CJKrwKkE)
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I whipped up a simple text file for this. It's basically just an open document format version of the normal character sheet in the books with as close to the same layout as I could manage. I used tables a lot and gave new cells for any point where you should want to input things. The advantage is it should be simple to use. Any modern version of Word or OpenOffice can open it and edit it freely. The disadvantage is there's no distinction between the parts you want to edit to write down your character and the rest of it. So if you erase something or muck up a table you'll probably want to just reload from your last save point or use the Edit -> Undo function to fix it.
Edit: Someone reminded me about google docs so I've put it up there. Feel free to suggest changes if you wish. Please note that I've included the Evil Hat copyright since all the actual info is just copied from their sheet but any formatting errors are mine alone. Here's an ugly but serviceable link:
http://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7AiE-TiGA7MYzVjN2VlYmQtMTNkYi00OWE5LWJiN2YtMGM0MWFiYzBlNmFi&sort=name&layout=list&num=50 (http://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7AiE-TiGA7MYzVjN2VlYmQtMTNkYi00OWE5LWJiN2YtMGM0MWFiYzBlNmFi&sort=name&layout=list&num=50)
broken link
Sorry, the page (or document) you have requested is not available.
Please check the address and try again.
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Oops. Fixed it now. I did a minor update to it to set some of the fields you'd be entering text into to larger fonts and bold type. Also added a Hunger stress track. Managed to muck up the link when I tried to edit the post though.
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Oops. Fixed it now. I did a minor update to it to set some of the fields you'd be entering text into to larger fonts and bold type. Also added a Hunger stress track. Managed to muck up the link when I tried to edit the post though.
Its (probably) me, but I can't open the file.
Using MSWord 2007 generates this error msg: "The Office Open XML DFRPG_char_sheet.odt cannot be opened because there are problems with the contents."
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I forgot people use MS Office. It's not you, the software is broken by design. To view the file you can either use a plugin for MS Office (hunt one down by googling for "odt in ms word" or something similar) or grab openoffice.org (it's free and not as broken). I guess if enough people were interested I could make a word doc formatted file for it. I probably wouldn't be in a rush to do so though, to be honest. It'd probably be more headache for me to manage than you grabbing some software.
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Ah yes. You forgot to mention the plugin. It just says 'any modern version of Word' :) No worries. I've got OpenOffice on an instance elsewhere and I'll try it there when I get home.
Cheers.
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Ah yes. You forgot to mention the plugin. It just says 'any modern version of Word' :)
Added a note to that effect. I honestly just forgot about it. I haven't used MS Office for anything in years and the marketing goo I'd heard indicated it could read this sort of file.
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As I have nothing but a mac and mac version of office, along with the technical savvy of Grape Ape if he dropped acid, can someone please explain to me why the evil hat forms (character and city sheets 1.1) will save my info just fine, but the one that a kind fellow here edited so beautifully to ONLY have the 2 page character sheets - and with better boxes - will let me type everything in and save, but then it won't keep that data.
I would love to use that sheet; it's perfect for what I need, can someone make it so it will save?
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I used a mac and OpenOffice (it's free software, you can get it from OpenOffice.org if you're so inclined) to make the character sheet I built. Mine is one page however, so I'm guessing you're talking about the PDF version. I don't have the Adobe Reader software installed at the moment so the PDF version someone else supplied doesn't even work for me. It opens in Preview alright but just spams a message about needing a different version of Adobe Reader to work right. So... apologies but unless you're using the one I linked above, I can't really help you troubleshoot it. If you are trying to use mine and it won't open right in Microsoft Office, try using OpenOffice instead. The current version is about 425mb on my machine and doesn't hide any parts anywhere else. So if you happen to not like it you can just throw the app in the trash to uninstall it.
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I'm using the sheet from Matt.Ceb on the rpg.net forums and I'm encountering an odd problem. Every time I type in the relationships on face "4" it shows up in "6" and vice versa.
I'd post on RPG.net, but it seems that thread has been dead for awhile.
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I had downloaded City Planning sheets which had been made into fillable Acrobat PDFs. IIRC it was from this forum, but I'm having trouble finding the original post.
Anyway, I had found (and resolved) one error in how the forms were created (the 'Relationships' field for two Faces was keyed to the same variable), and I wanted to track down the original poster to see if it had already been identified and remedied.
Can anyone remember where that was or who had created it?
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I had downloaded City Planning sheets which had been made into fillable Acrobat PDFs. IIRC it was from this forum, but I'm having trouble finding the original post...Can anyone remember where that was or who had created it?
A-ha! I found it through this thread, but it was a link to something on RPGNet.
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The link is on the second page of replies, and now it's here,
http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=510090 (http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=510090)
Richard
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Here's a better, updated version of the one in his first post.
http://www.enklave-23.de/Dresdenverse/City-and-Character-Sheets-Fillable%20v1.1.pdf
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HEY GUYS! i made a workable Character Sheet Program its not completely done but i put it up for input and ideas from you guys you can save and open and such it works great! just wanting more ideas to add but here is the link
free download enjoy!! http://www.4shared.com/file/SEuYTG6d/Character_program.html
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hey gang i have done a few small updates to the sheets above. (yes i didn't create these sheets, i simply made some small changes that i felt worked better) Mainly i have split them up into a 2 page (just your character) sheet. on the 2 and 5 pages sheets i have changed the stress track bubbles to from the one click radio buttons to check boxes (i used diamonds instead of checks) this way you can uncheck the box if your skills improve, that was the main reason i changed these sheets, having to remake the whole sheet just because you got one more social stress box irked me to no end. (yes that was a horribly long sentence, sorry)
i also did some minor alignment tweaks.
and i split part the three city sheets into single PDF's, that way you can save multiple sheets without having the other 4 pages. This was mainly done so that i could have multiple pages of locations but figured what the hell might as well do the other 3.
2 Page (http://www.4shared.com/document/xWyIlwAB/Dresden_Character_Sheet__2_Pag.html)
5 Page (http://www.4shared.com/document/1VL5BAcF/Dresden_Character_Sheet__5_Pag.html)
City (Locations) (http://www.4shared.com/document/YhdyWWNe/City_Street__Locations_.html)
City (High Level) (http://www.4shared.com/document/ge5AqEOC/City_Sheet__High_Level_.html)
City (Faces) (http://www.4shared.com/document/OAacfqY5/City_Sheet__Faces_.html)
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Awesome! Can I make one request: a third page for the character sheet that's mostly blank so you have a place to write your Rote Spells, Magic Items, spell calculations, and descriptions of your powers, because the space provided for them is sub optimal when writing these electronically.
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Working off and on a "equipment" sheet and/or magic sheet.
between work and second work lol it's slow going
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Silly Question I do not see it in the thread. http://www.dresdenfilesrpg.com/downloads/
Is there a fillable sheet based on the Hunger Stress Sheet on the Dresden Files actual site? http://www.dresdenfilesrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Hunger-Sheet.pdf
And a Fillable Shapeshifter one? http://www.dresdenfilesrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Shapeshifter-Sheet.pdf
My GM is looking for those and my wife is playing a White Court Vampire.
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I dont know if there is one out there, but give me a few days and i'll take a crack at it
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Working on the Shifter and Hunger Track gonna be a few but i'll get it done
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Working on the Shifter and Hunger Track gonna be a few but i'll get it done
Imp, cool as hell you are doing this. No worries
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Here is the Fillable sheet with hunger track
Hunger Track 2 Page (http://www.4shared.com/document/EBeNvLFn/Dresden_Character_sheet_-_Hung.html)
gonna try and finish the changer sheet this weekend
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alright i lied here is the shape shifter sheet
Shape Shifter (2 Page) (http://www.4shared.com/document/hRfCP1Cs/Dresden_Character_Sheet_-_Shap.html)
here is all the links
2 Page (http://www.4shared.com/document/xWyIlwAB/Dresden_Character_Sheet__2_Pag.html)
5 Page (http://www.4shared.com/document/1VL5BAcF/Dresden_Character_Sheet__5_Pag.html)
City (Locations) (http://www.4shared.com/document/YhdyWWNe/City_Street__Locations_.html)
City (High Level) (http://www.4shared.com/document/ge5AqEOC/City_Sheet__High_Level_.html)
City (Faces) (http://www.4shared.com/document/OAacfqY5/City_Sheet__Faces_.html)
Shape Shifter (2 Page) (http://www.4shared.com/document/hRfCP1Cs/Dresden_Character_Sheet_-_Shap.html)
Hunger Track 2 Page (http://www.4shared.com/document/EBeNvLFn/Dresden_Character_sheet_-_Hung.html)
Let me know if there are any issues with the sheets enjoy!
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The only issue I have is that these sheets are too awesome and make me feel piddly and insignificant.
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The only issue I have is that these sheets are too awesome and make me feel piddly and insignificant.
Very true I feel that way already.
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Thanks :)
Fred has officially put these sheets up on the Dresden Files RPG Download section!
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These forms are great, however there is one problem that was previously reported that has not been corrected. On the City Sheet (Faces) the "Relationships" field for the left hand NPC on the second row and the right hand one are both linked to the same data, so filling one out fills out the other. This makes one of the two unusable unless you plan your NPCs to both know the exact same people.
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I'll get that fixed, luckily I can update the files and it will update on the site aswell
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All Set, the fields aren't linked anymore and now they all are centered so it looks a little better when filled out.
Let me know any other bugs or concerns on these sheets.
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Hey Imp,
These are great sheet I love that you changed the hunger tracks so they can be unchecked. I am only having one problem. the best part about this is it allows you to update a saved sheet but Adobe Reader is telling me I cant save the changes to the sheet so whats the point. Am I missing something?
thanks for the work
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If your using just the reader (ie adobe reader x or whichever) use the "save as", direct save works if you have abode standard
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Alright Fred made up a spellcaster sheet. I made did some form magic on it, now i must confess i havent played a spell caster yet so with help from Mal_Luck i did my best
Spellcaster Sheet (http://www.4shared.com/document/EKFlGb_o/Spellcasting__1_Page_.html)
if there is anything that would work better IE number or size of the fields let me know. the spell totals workspace i was totally lost on so if that would work a different way please let me know
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Imp,
These character sheets, especially with the Hunger Track and the Shapeshifter, would be extremely useful to me and my group... if only I could save them. Certainly it is possible for me to save other incarnations of this sort of Dresden character sheet without the full Acrobat suite. Could you please look into Properties or something to set it so that we can save data in the fillable fields. Your suggestion to use "Save as" will only save it as text for me, which is pretty useless as the text file is not formatted very well.
Also, I seem to have trouble downloading the Spellcaster version. Perhaps there is a bad link.
Thanks.
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I'll take a look into the saving option, I'll figure something out. cause i absolutely agree that a character sheet is useless if you cant save the dam thing.
i check the links on the sharing site, the thread and dresdenfilesrpg.com and they all seem to be working fine. is anyone else experience a problem with the spellcasting link?
here is a new link just in case
SpellCasting 1 page (http://www.4shared.com/document/EKFlGb_o/Spellcasting__1_Page_.html)
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I know this may not help much but you can "print" to a new PDF. The new one would not be editable afterward as it would in essence be a picture of the sheet with the filled in portions.
As a side note is it possible in areas such as the "Musts" and other areas that would be single line but usually get so much info that they scale very small to be able to wrap the text? If the font were reduced in size just a bit it would fit and for most characters that section specifically gets unreadable.
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@TheRealME alright took some digging but i got it all sorted out, you should be able to save with just adobe reader now.
@Warderbrad how much text do you normally put in the "Musts" from my understanding it was just used for the must have stunt/powers to make you you. which for anyone in my group ends up being 2-4 items
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Recently I made a character for a White Court game, using the template there are 7 different must powers some with catch information. I may be building characters wrong if you are not required to take all of the must items listed on the template.
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Imp, thank you for your hard work.
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Imp this page explains how to do it http://help.adobe.com/en_US/acrobat/pro/using/WS58a04a822e3e50102bd615109794195ff-7e0d.w.html (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/acrobat/pro/using/WS58a04a822e3e50102bd615109794195ff-7e0d.w.html)
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Already been sorted out, thank you thou
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Alright Fred made up a spellcaster sheet. I made did some form magic on it, now i must confess i havent played a spell caster yet so with help from Mal_Luck i did my best
Spellcaster Sheet (http://www.4shared.com/document/EKFlGb_o/Spellcasting__1_Page_.html)
if there is anything that would work better IE number or size of the fields let me know. the spell totals workspace i was totally lost on so if that would work a different way please let me know
Hey Imp, love the Spellcasting sheet, but there are parts which seem a little wonky.
The first that I noticed is that if a caster has 2 specializations in Thaumaturgy, the Control bonus on the 2nd specialization is automatically mirrored as a second specialization bonus in Evocation.
An example appears at this site http://www.epicwords.com/attachments/4817 (http://www.epicwords.com/attachments/4817). Please note that the page itself is a non-writeable PDF created by printing the writeable Spell sheet into a PDF to shrink the storage used on the site.
The second item I noticed which was a bit wonky was that the space to show the number of focus items will autofill with the same number of enchanted items. Given that a caster can swap focus item slots for enchanted item slots on a 1:2 ratio, from my perspective it would be better to not have those locations autofill, since depending on how the caster develops, they might have very different numbers of focus and enchanted item slots.
All the same, good work on it.
-Cheers
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Thanks Todjaeger like i said i have yet to play a spellcaster so i went off instinct, i'll take a look and correct these and update the file, i'll post when i it's all set
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Alright it was a simple fix on naming conventions.
Spellcasting (1 Page) (http://www.4shared.com/document/EKFlGb_o/Spellcasting__1_Page_.html)
i have updated the link so the fixed sheets is the one you will get across the board, from this forum, dresdenfilesrpg.com and my blog Imp's Corner (http://www.impscorner.com)
thanks again for the heads up Tofjager, anyone else have any suggestions or find a bug please let me know
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Out of curiosity does anyone know how to make the bottom right corner of the 2-page fillable character sheet fillable?
I'm taking specifically about page 2 of the sheet, the bottom right corner, above the Total Refresh Adjustment and to the immediate left of The Ladder, on both the regular and Hunger Track sheets. The Shapeshifter sheet already has the area I'm talking about set aside for Stunts & Powers.
What I'm looking to do it make that area fillable so that I can type notes about the characters in, like what languages they speak, if they have special, non-IOP gear like guns or body armor, what type and rank Workspace a player has, etc.
If someone could tinker with those sheets so that area can be fillable, or perhaps point me in the direct of tools so I can try and do so, I'd appreciate it.
-Cheers
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Sent you a PM Todjaeger
IF anyone else has a intrest in having the note section on the 2/page i'll post a link
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Unstickying this because everything here is included in the DFRPG Downloads thread over on the Resources board. If you think this is a mistake, please say so.
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Go for it.
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Declutter all the stickies!
Just wanted to say I'm really happy to have you as a mod now. :)
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Huh.
I wasn't expecting you to care much. This place barely needs moderation at all.
Thanks, I guess.
Anyway, I plan to move the podcast thread over to the Resources board once it gets current. Not sure exactly what to do with the other remaining sticky threads.
The on-topic and no-spoiler announcements are important, but maybe they could be merged.
We should have at least one Law thread up there, but I don't know if we need three.
The information thread is old enough to do algebra, but maybe it's still useful to newbies...
And the fan licence thread is kind of odd. On one hand, it's important to know what the rules are...but on the other hand, nobody follows those rules and nobody seems to care that they don't.
Thoughts?
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...there's a fan license?
I think the Law Talk thread sort of died.
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That's fine by me. It's mostly there to prevent Law arguments in other threads, and I think the link-pile does that job reasonably well even without active discussion.