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The Dresden Files => DF Spoilers => Topic started by: iago on May 25, 2006, 05:58:35 PM

Title: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: iago on May 25, 2006, 05:58:35 PM
This board allows spoilers about the Dresden Files series of books, the television series, or the RPG.  This means that anyone reading this board reads it at their own peril.

All the same, when posting spoilers to this board, please make sure that your subject line makes it clear what you're talking about, and the fact that it contains spoilers.
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: Mickey Finn on June 16, 2006, 03:54:24 PM
On the same note, please do not put spoilers in the subject line...the main board shows the most recent topic title, so there's a possibility you could accidently spoil someone with the topic title, even though you're posting on the spoiler board.

This hasn't happened yet, this msg is a pre-emptive strike. ;)
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: Mickey Finn on December 28, 2007, 06:02:37 PM
Added note: Even though this is a spoiler board, some people may not have read the new book yet. Please use the spoiler tags discussing anything about the new book that isn't in a new-book-specific thread. For instance, if answering a question in a general question thread, like "Bob's complete lack of arms and legs" with material from the new book, use the spoiler tag. Meanwhile, "Discussing the New Book, If You Haven't Read It, Keep Out. No, we really mean it" in the Subject Line means you don't need the spoiler tag.
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: Slife on June 06, 2010, 04:10:05 PM
Quote from: Mickey Finn on December 28, 2007, 06:02:37 PM
Added note: Even though this is a spoiler board, some people may not have read the new book yet. Please use the spoiler tags discussing anything about the new book that isn't in a new-book-specific thread. For instance, if answering a question in a general question thread, like "Bob's complete lack of arms and legs" with material from the new book, use the spoiler tag. Meanwhile, "Discussing the New Book, If You Haven't Read It, Keep Out. No, we really mean it" in the Subject Line means you don't need the spoiler tag.
I'm a little confused about why this policy is in place.  Given that the general guidelines for spoilers is
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   * Did it come out this year?
    * Is it from a book that is currently only available in hardcover form?
    * Do I have any doubts about whether or not it's a spoiler?
it seems a little odd to have a spoiler-allowed zone, and then require spoiler tags on the new book in that zone anyway.  If we didn't want to discuss the new book as part of the conversation, we wouldn't have it in this section of the forum, right?

I mean, there are like three topics on the front page without a "changes spoilers" in the topic, so it seems sort of redundant.
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: iago on June 06, 2010, 04:12:38 PM
I seem to recall that the problem is that some people read posts via a "show me the new posts on the forum" method, so the board itself isn't quite as much protection. But I'm fuzzy on this. Mickey?
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: Shecky on June 06, 2010, 04:16:41 PM
My understanding was this:

1) Titles. In either spoiler or spoiler-free zones, no spoilers in the title (i.e., subject line of the first post in the thread). This avoids the "unread posts" or "new replies" searches from showing spoilers right there in the list of threads found.
2) Body. Spoiler zone: no spoiler code-tags needed in posts. Non-spoiler zone: use spoiler code-tags for any in-text spoilers.

Or am I off?
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: Curly on June 06, 2010, 09:32:13 PM
What about for advance spoilers, of the Ghost Story variety? I assume we consider that lots of people won't think of the advance book hints and clues and such, and may not appreciate having that spoiled for them.
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: Papageno on June 07, 2010, 02:16:45 AM
Quote from: Curly on June 06, 2010, 09:32:13 PM
What about for advance spoilers, of the Ghost Story variety? I assume we consider that lots of people won't think of the advance book hints and clues and such, and may not appreciate having that spoiled for them.

I think those should be kept in the Spoilers zone without spoiler tag, what we have is a publicly available blurb, some conjectures and a lot of imagination...
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: darchangel89 on December 07, 2010, 09:58:07 PM
So, is it ok to talk about book 12 in this forum? Is that what its for? Cuz I really want to rant about it badly............
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: Icecream on December 07, 2010, 10:03:39 PM
yes . only in the spoilers zone. put [changes spoilers] in the title and don't say anything spoilery in the topic title if you create a new topic.
If you say something spoilery that's not in a [changes spoilers] thread ,blank it out with a spoiler bar.
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: cass on December 08, 2010, 06:40:05 AM
Question: In the case of a thread with non-specific spoiler warnings in the topic (e.g. "Possible spoilery stuff, What is Lea's obsession with dogs?"), how careful do posters need to be about warning about spoilers from specific sources? 

(Separate but related: if I warn for Aftermath spoilers in the topic title, do I need to spoilertag Changes spoilers?  Reading the former would seem to imply that the biggest events of the latter were known, but I also don't want to ruin someone's day with a smaller reveal not addressed in Aftermath.)
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: Blaze on December 08, 2010, 01:44:19 PM
In case of short stories, it might just be best to err on the side of caution and include the closest book. Remember, spoiler tags are a courtesy for people who have not caught up on all the reading!
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: Serack on December 08, 2010, 01:56:04 PM
Before SJ I tried to spoiler cover anything that was from the short stories that wasn't directly mentioned in the title because they were so non readily available.  I still do the same thing with Even Hand: 
(click to show/hide)
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There are written guidelines that suggest that anything that's been in print for over a year is fair game, but if you feel that somoene reading your post might not have already read the info you are sharing, and it's not covered in the title, it won't hurt to cover it up.
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: rh1ann on November 14, 2011, 04:51:42 AM
When someone posts something about spoilers I get a little spoiler box that says [click to hide/show].  Only problem is - when I click it, I get taken back to the main forum board.  Apparently that is not working for me, so how exactly am I supposed to use this thing?

*nevermind - found out that my script blocker was doing its job and blocking the function.
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: mdodd on December 03, 2011, 09:38:53 AM
Couple of questions for the brains trust? I was just adding Mickey's twitter account to my favourites so thought I would bring up a couple of questions, so blame him.

a) what is the pronunciation of Fomor. Is it foe-mor (rhymes with tor) or foe-more, which I read it as.

b) off Dresden but how do you guys pronounce Cthulhu. I can find no definitive pronunciation. I always say thoo-loo.

c) Has there been any thread where it has been discussed the dialogue in Dead Beat where Gard says "This is a mistake. He was destined to die in that alley,"
Marcone replies with "What is the point of having free will if one cannot occasionally spit in the eye of destiny?" Marcone asked.
"There will be consequences," she said.
Marcone shrugged "When aren't there"

It is implied but Gard does not say that it was Harry that was destined to die in the alleyway.

Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: synergysigns on October 30, 2012, 05:20:52 AM
I think it will be kept in the Spoilers zone without spoiler tag.
what we have is a publicly available blurb, some conjectures and a lot of imagination. :P
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: Icecream on October 30, 2012, 07:41:01 AM
Quote from: synergysigns on October 30, 2012, 05:20:52 AM
I think it will be kept in the Spoilers zone without spoiler tag.
what we have is a publicly available blurb, some conjectures and a lot of imagination. :P

There's some other spoilers around that we're not allowed to mention  :)
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: wildone654 on December 25, 2013, 06:31:38 PM
And perhaps a lot of wizards don't like cities?
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: Kathryn Rose on December 27, 2013, 07:41:36 PM
Quote from: Mickey Finn on June 16, 2006, 03:54:24 PM
On the same note, please do not put spoilers in the subject line...the main board shows the most recent topic title, so there's a possibility you could accidently spoil someone with the topic title, even though you're posting on the spoiler board.

What's the process for when people do this?  Right now there are a couple of posts on the first page that have spoilery titles.
(click to show/hide)

I enjoy reading the board, but I start to worry when people start posting about a book that isn't out yet.  I don't like to hear anything about what's in a book until i get to read it and take the ride.  I get that other people like to talk about leaked and hinted info. I just don't trust that info is always labeled. (I got spoiled for something in Cold Days before the book was released. I read it the day it came out.)
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: Shecky on December 27, 2013, 08:15:59 PM
Quote from: Kathryn Rose on December 27, 2013, 07:41:36 PM
What's the process for when people do this?  Right now there are a couple of posts on the first page that have spoilery titles.
(click to show/hide)

I enjoy reading the board, but I start to worry when people start posting about a book that isn't out yet.  I don't like to hear anything about what's in a book until i get to read it and take the ride.  I get that other people like to talk about leaked and hinted info. I just don't trust that info is always labeled. (I got spoiled for something in Cold Days before the book was released. I read it the day it came out.)

Are you talking about speculation or about stuff from the sample chapters / public statements by Jim ahead of release? If the former, there's really nothing we could (or should) do about that, but if the latter, use the "Report to moderator" button. Don't worry; it's not a "snitch to the teacher" thing; it's just a helpful shortcut to aid us in our clerical-detail work (there aren't many of us and it's physically impossible for us to check every thread all the time, so any help is greatly appreciated). Or, alternately, you could address a post to the person who made the post in question, but if the person isn't constantly active here, it may not get fixed quickly, so "Report to moderator" is usually the most efficient route.

As for the specific examples you gave... well, the first one is definitely still an off-base kind of thing, as it touches on events in CD, but the second one is from a number of books ago and is thus exempt from the forum's standard of "nothing from the latest book".
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: Kathryn Rose on December 28, 2013, 03:56:42 AM
Quote from: Shecky on December 27, 2013, 08:15:59 PM
Are you talking about speculation or about stuff from the sample chapters / public statements by Jim ahead of release?

I figure sample chapters are fair game if they're labeled.  I read everything as soon as I know about it.  But, for example, after I posted the question, I was reading a thread about what characters we'd like to see again.  There's no spoilers in the original post, but there are in comments, and someone called the person on it, but all they did was apologize and leave it there.  I think people take for granted that everyone knows the leaked stuff, and there's no concern about people who don't want to know it. 
(click to show/hide)
  I wish I didn't know that, but apparently it leaked long enough ago that people don't even think about it being a spoiler.

I hate to pester the moderators with a lot of notifications. Thanks for the reply.
Title: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: SKndstorm on August 31, 2015, 03:20:41 PM
it just keeps staying funny. i wish they would do this with more lost footage lol
Title: Changes and Skin Game Spoiler
Post by: Warden Ryan on January 30, 2017, 10:17:30 PM
In Skin Game pg 146 Harry says, "Martin saw a chance to wipe out the whole Red Court. All of them. He popped Susan in the face with the knowledge of his treachery and she just snapped." That's not true. Harry realized his chance and popped Susan in the face with this knowledge when he asked her who knew where Maggie was before she was taken.

Does anyone know if this was a mistake on Jim's part or was Harry lying during his confession to Michael?
Title: Re: This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
Post by: wardenferry419 on October 30, 2017, 09:32:06 AM
I would say that maybe Harry was distancing himself as self-preservation.