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The Dresden Files => DF TV Series => Topic started by: Mickey Finn on January 18, 2007, 09:57:11 PM
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I thought I'd create a thread specifically aimed at Robert to check when he can, in order for some questions to avoid being buried in time.
However, we have to be careful and not flood this thread with random questions. So, rules of this thread:
1) No questions obviously aimed at plot points that will be revealed later in the show.
2) Nothing personal, in this thread. This is for Dresden Files TV show questions, only. If he deviates, well, he's allowed.
3) Don't discuss or derail the thread. If you want to discuss something he's said, make your own thread and quote him. He can come in that thread and discuss it with you...the point of this thread isn't a one-stop shop for all things Robert, but simply a place where he can see questions and answer them. If we get into discussions, this thread will wander all over the place (something I normally don't mind, but this thread is an exception).
4) Please do your homework before asking a question...see if you can find the answers elsewhere, first. Unlike some, I do not mind when someone new to the boards asks a question that's been discussed to death, but if an answer is readily answerable elsewhere, then it's a waste of breath in this particular thread. Please also note that there's a FAQ forum near the top of this board. At the time of this writing, it's a tad threadbare, but it is growing.
http://www.jim-butcher.com/bb/index.php/topic,430.new.html#new
5) Bear in mind he may choose to be obtuse or outright not answer a question. He has a show to protect.
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5) Bear in mind he may choose to be obtuse or outright not answer a question. He has a show to protect.
I may also be snarky. I have a high quotient of snark. I only make one promise. I promise never to say "Don't make me hunt you down and bitch-slap you" to anyone who posts questions for me or comments about my work on the internet. At least, not again.*
* Okay, there was that one time. And I didn't mean it. And it all worked out.
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OK, then, a question (well, two) about the series before it hits the airwaves:
* How & when will it be determined whether the series is picked up to continue for second and consecutive seasons?
and related to that
* How might we as viewers best support the show to help ensure that we might enjoy second and consecutive seasons?
So far, I like what I little I have seen of the Dresden Files as a series, and certainly am avidly supporting the books from which it has been derived. However this is me speaking as someone who has felt burned by television networks in general and the Sci-Fi channel in particular. I would rather not see this show go the way of Firefly or Farscape.
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So far, I like what I little I have seen of the Dresden Files as a series, and certainly am avidly supporting the books from which it has been derived. However this is me speaking as someone who has felt burned by television networks in general and the Sci-Fi channel in particular. I would rather not see this show go the way of Firefly or Farscape.
Let's make that "the way of Firefly", which never even got a full season.
Farscape, by contrast, while it did get a sudden and nasty cancellation, only got that after several years of full seasons getting aired. Good ones, too. So while the manner of its cancellation was objectionable, the fans did at least get a lot of episodes out of that time. If the Dresden Files gets a similar number of years on the air, I honestly think that won't be so bad. Would more be great? Yes. But I don't necessarily hold Farscape as the low water mark.
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I didn't support Firefly, and never watched Farscape. I watched all of Firefly on DVD though and that show had so much potential, FOX was just stupid to not give it a better chance and more advertising.
But I am supporting and watching and telling anyone who will listen to watch The Dresden Files on SCIFI at 9pm on Sunday nights!
So I am hoping I am not the only one doing this, so the show will get a ten year run, at least!
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I never missed an episode of firefly when it aired, and I supported the hell out of it. It didn't make that much of a diff then. However the big difference between firefly and Dresden is Sci-Fi is doing everything they can to promote the show, where Fox did everything they could to kill Firefly.
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I included Farscape more from the perspective of how and where I developed a certain amount of distrust for Sci-Fi channel in its handling of properties. It would have been more appropriate perhaps to team it with The Invisible Man, which was also an interesting and fair series that didn't last very long with them.
Farscape did get four seasons, and it was too easy for me to forget that it was treated well for the first two seasons, and fairly for the third.
Firefly is more of a cautionary tale from other networks, and points to what kind of support can we possibly provide to help a show out. While it did not prevent Firefly from being cancelled and did not bring it back to the air (like Family Guy), it did lead to a feature length film.
Regardless, the point of the questions is to find out how we can best support the sereis.
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Only one real question:
Will Harry be doing more magic in later episodes? As a poster on another thread put it, the first ep needed more "earth-shattering ka-boom" :)
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Any prelim numbers on the ratings for the first ep?
If so, how did they compare to what was desired by the powers that be?
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OK, then, a question (well, two) about the series before it hits the airwaves:
* How & when will it be determined whether the series is picked up to continue for second and consecutive seasons?
Unclear. The network will get the numbers and crunch them in mystical ways then make a decision when the stars are right. IE Whenever they damn well feel like it.
* How might we as viewers best support the show to help ensure that we might enjoy second and consecutive seasons?
Watch the show, tell your friends to watch, and send supportive feedback to SciFi.
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Only one real question:
Will Harry be doing more magic in later episodes? As a poster on another thread put it, the first ep needed more "earth-shattering ka-boom" :)
Yep, more, but never as much as in the books. Creatively, the TV show will be less magic heavy than the books, a little closer to our world. So Murphy is just a detective, there's no SI department that knows about and investigates supernatural cases. Dresden works magic more reluctantly, and it costs him more physically. Magic is hard.
That's not to say we don't have some pretty big magical moments coming up, just don't expect any buildings to blow up this season. Unless they do.
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Hey Robert,
A couple of spoileriffic questions here.
1. Is Justin actually supposed to be Harry's Uncle in this series?
That seems to be perfectly valid in the context of Maggie's evil witchery history in the books but it occurred to me that "uncle" is also what a 'too close' friend of the family relation might also be called.
Hell, if Maggie died without ever talking about her family then Justin could show up without ever having to do anything but pretend to be family.
And if its a story point, feel free to just answer with "That would be telling" or "Harry BELIEVES he's his Uncle or thinks of him as one"
2. Is Harry's bad reputation going to be build up slowly with the High Council?
Let's face it, tonight he's interfered with their "Magician Protection Program" for a kid (Justin seems to have a thing for young wizards) and he's peripherally related to a death of their librarian (I almost said Archivist)
I was curious if this was deliberate.
and one odd question.
3. Justin looks like a real wizard. Are most of the older magicians going to be spooky in that respect?
Just curious. Harry and the High Council girl were presumably born in the modern age.
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Firstly, was there any presure from the Canadian film board to give it that "filmed in Canada" feel? A lot of Canadian dramas have a certain look and feel to how they translate stories to film and Dresden had that feel to it for me. Hopefully that isn't taken negatively as that was not my intent.
Secondly, as I've read final draft to the Storm Front script, is that being re-arranged as the season final as episodes 10-11 or a possible cliffhanger?
Keep up the great work all of you. I really enjoyed the first episode and look forward to adding it to my collection when released on DVD.
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Actually I have a question for Robert. First off, thanks for the open dialog with the fans. Seriously cool of you. I'll admit to being one of the not as happy as they wanted to be types - but absolutely staying tuned to see how the show develops.
My question is this, I was just curious why the decision was made to make the show stand alone stories rather than arc based stories? I ask this only because it seems that the landscape of tv has changed a lot and the more arc based storytelling has gained considerable popularity. Shows like Lost, Grey's Anatomy, 24, and Battlestar Galactica are all arc based shows and all very successfull. I was curious why it was decided to take a property that has that already built in and then remove that aspect in favor of stand alone episodes?
Just curious. Thanks for your time.
wlg
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Robert, is the diner intended to take the place of McAnally's? Will we not be able to sit down to a brew with our mysterious bar owner, Mac?
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Do the Ravens work for the High Council?
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Are all the scenes with Justin in "Birds of a Feather" flashbacks?
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Do the Ravens work for the High Council?
These did. Others might not. Mercenaries.
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Are all the scenes with Justin in "Birds of a Feather" flashbacks?
Nope. He's outside the church watching the Doom Box go off.
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Cue "Twilight Zone Music". Cool. Justin is alive.
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Cue "Twilight Zone Music". Cool. Justin is alive.
Well... Justin was outside the church walking around. That doesn't necessarily mean that he is actually alive.
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He got into a car. Do ghosts need cars? Of course, I suppose there are other tings he could be. Robert, any clues? Or is it just what it seems? Or do you not want to tell us? :'(
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He got into a car. Do ghosts need cars? Of course, I suppose there are other tings he could be. Robert, any clues? Or is it just what it seems? Or do you not want to tell us? :'(
All will be revealed in the fullness of time.
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1. Is Justin actually supposed to be Harry's Uncle in this series?
Yes, he's the brother of Harry's mother.
2. Is Harry's bad reputation going to be build up slowly with the High Council?
No, he's pretty much in the toilet already when the show begins. I suppose things could get better. Or worse.
3. Justin looks like a real wizard.
Does he? I don't see a hat [pointy, mode 1, mod 3, stars optional]. No robes. He looks like a well dressed businessman with a cane to me.
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Firstly, was there any presure from the Canadian film board to give it that "filmed in Canada" feel?
Nope, but we are using local actors and locations and crew, so maybe that's it. Frankly, I don't see it. I think the show feels pretty "US network" to me.
Secondly, as I've read final draft to the Storm Front script, is that being re-arranged as the season final as episodes 10-11 or a possible cliffhanger?
No. The one hour will be aired as an episode. It's quite possible a two-hour version will be aired as a special treat at some point, but don't expect it to "fit" into the overall continuity of the show.
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My question is this, I was just curious why the decision was made to make the show stand alone stories rather than arc based stories? I ask this only because it seems that the landscape of tv has changed a lot and the more arc based storytelling has gained considerable popularity. Shows like Lost, Grey's Anatomy, 24, and Battlestar Galactica are all arc based shows and all very successfull. I was curious why it was decided to take a property that has that already built in and then remove that aspect in favor of stand alone episodes?
We always wanted the TV show to feel more like "The Rockford Files" or "Spencer for Hire," traditional episodic detective shows with some long term story telling, but strong individual epsiodes that can stand on their own.
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Firstly, was there any presure from the Canadian film board to give it that "filmed in Canada" feel? A lot of Canadian dramas have a certain look and feel to how they translate stories to film and Dresden had that feel to it for me. Hopefully that isn't taken negatively as that was not my intent.
A lot of film companies come here to film because it's cheaper than in the States (or has been.) That means that a lot of productions with small budgets film in Canada. I assume that's what you mean by "Canadian feel." My apologies if you actually meant "wonderfully creative and innovative film teqhnique." ;D
As for pressure to "look Canadian" - I don't think so. They do everythng to make it look as if it were filmed in the States. They go out of the way to avoid the CN Tower in shots, they put U.S. postal boxes in the streets to confuse the local citizenry, they totally redo store fronts to look like American retailers etc etc.
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they totally redo store fronts to look like American retailers etc etc.
I have spent some time in Vancouver and I live in Orlando. The only difference I have seen between the storefronts in both cities is that the prices are in Canadian dollars if there are any prices advertized and the phone numbers there have a different area code. There are more differences in Quebec, but it isn't as if there is a vast cutlural difference between Canada and the States.
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We always wanted the TV show to feel more like "The Rockford Files" or "Spencer for Hire," traditional episodic detective shows with some long term story telling, but strong individual epsiodes that can stand on their own.
Those are two good shows to feel like.
wlg
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Here's my question...
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO BOB?!?!
No, no, I don't mean the ghost-Bob vs. skull-Bob. I have no problems whatsoever with the ghost-Bob. My problem is that there was no smart-ass, hardly any snark, and zero perversion! He never ONCE mentioned that the kid's mom could be hot! Bob is great for exposition, but if you don't use him as comic relief as well then he just turns into Giles-in-a-skull.
It also seemed like the humor was turned way, way down too. I mean almost non-existent turned down. You said you're basing off The Rockford Files and Spenser for Hire...I'm a huge fan of the Spenser novels and I was a bit too young for the show when it was on, but what episodes I've seen suggest that they didn't lose nearly as much of the smart-assedness of Spenser as we've lost of Harry. The humor of the books is one of my favorite things about it, being a smart-ass-in-training. I don't expect "POLKA WILL NEVER DIE!!" or frozen turkeys falling from the sky...okay, I actually want the frozen turkey from the sky complete with timer popping out because that's just too good to NOT use and the reaction from the characters in the book was sincere...but I do want some more humor. I'm not saying turn it into Buffy with pop-culture references and everyone coming up with perfect jokes on every word, but it'd be nice to have Harry trade barbs a bit more often.
Those are my only real concerns (aside from the typical problems with it not being the REAL pilot so we were left in the dark about some things, but that's not controllable really) about the show long-term. It doesn't feel Spenser for Hire meets Buffy like the books, but more CSI meets X-Files. Isn't there someway to meet somewhere in the middle?
If you need to convince the suits of this...site the success they're having with shows like Monk and Psych on USA. The comedy drives the story as much as the mystery and, while taking it that far would definitely be too much, it might convince them to allow more leeway with the jokes for the next season...
The Abstruse One
Darryl Mott Jr.
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Mr. Wolfe,
I have a question that spawns into a few other questions.
Are we going to see more of the smart mouthed, stubborn, going my way Dresden in the series, or is the show going to rely on the trademark Dresden plot twist?
For myself I believe the thing that makes Butcher's Dresden so like-able is his witty banter. He's like Spiderman, but with better humor and dire consequences for his misspoken words. Some questions that spawn off this is, if we are not to see such a smart mouthed Dresden, was this an artistic choice or one based on what common audiences would like to see? I believe the Dresden plot twist is just as important, but when it is added with the wits of Harry, it truly becomes the soul of Dresden.
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Robert--I got skipped! Does the diner replace McAnally's?
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Robert--I got skipped! Does the diner replace McAnally's?
Nope, the diner was a one-off. Unfortunately, though, we won't get to McNally's this season. Hopefully next year.
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One-off? Does that mean we won't see it again? Or Laura, I presume.
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(Grunt. Want more Laura. *bangs stick* More Laura NOW. Grunt.)
(I liked Laura. Great facial expressions.)
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I thought the Laura character was pretty cool too, even if my DH thought she was cute.
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I have spent some time in Vancouver and I live in Orlando. The only difference I have seen between the storefronts in both cities is that the prices are in Canadian dollars if there are any prices advertized and the phone numbers there have a different area code.
There is no Macy's for instance in Canada, so when you come across one you know that you've stumbled onto a film set.
There are more differences in Quebec, but it isn't as if there is a vast cutlural difference between Canada and the States.
You'd have to live here for a while to discover them.
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Robert, the only real complaint I had with the show was with the audio--some of the dialogue was difficult to hear over the other noises. I thought this was a local problem, but it seems that many others had the same difficulty. Is this something you can check on?
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(Grunt. Want more Laura. *bangs stick* More Laura NOW. Grunt.)
(I liked Laura. Great facial expressions.)
I'm sure Harry feels the same way. And I bet it has nothing to do with 'facial expressions'. Nice try, Mickey.
(btw, my name is Michele, and Mickey was my nickname when I was little. :) )
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What are your thoughts on the reviews claiming the show is trying to be a post Whedonesk series or needs to be? I personally think the show is finding its own indentity regardless of the bar Buffy and Angel added to the whole laugh in the face of evil and then go cry to mamma when you've defeated it storylines. Before anyone gets insulted by the previous comment, I loved both shows. I just can't express myself without coming off as an ass.
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Hey Robert, I'm towards the end of transcribing the episode (for my own purposes, and if people want correct quotes), and I'm using the wonderful technology of closed captions. I noticed in several areas (specifically the Harry Voice Over spots), that the actual dialog and the captions are COMPLETELY different. Was the dialog changed after the caption agency went through? And when it comes time for a DVD release, are the subtitles going to be correct?
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Was doombox supposed to be a pun on boombox?
If it was, does that mean we can look forward to the CDoom Player and iDoom?
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Are we going to see more of the smart mouthed, stubborn, going my way Dresden in the series, or is the show going to rely on the trademark Dresden plot twist?
Uh, both? They're not mutally exclusive, right?
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(Grunt. Want more Laura. *bangs stick* More Laura NOW. Grunt.)
More Laura you shall get.
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Robert, the only real complaint I had with the show was with the audio--some of the dialogue was difficult to hear over the other noises. I thought this was a local problem, but it seems that many others had the same difficulty. Is this something you can check on?
I'll look into it. We mixed the dialogue pretty high over the other stuff. The poor sound editor was frowning with my constant "words louder, music softer." The mix sounded pretty damn good both in person and on transfer (and on SPACE here in TO). I'll check and see what's what.
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What are your thoughts on the reviews claiming the show is trying to be a post Whedonesk series or needs to be? I personally think the show is finding its own indentity regardless of the bar Buffy and Angel added to the whole laugh in the face of evil and then go cry to mamma when you've defeated it storylines. Before anyone gets insulted by the previous comment, I loved both shows. I just can't express myself without coming off as an ass.
We're not trying to immitate anyone. As much as I like Joss' stuff, we want to find our own voice.
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Hey Robert, I'm towards the end of transcribing the episode (for my own purposes, and if people want correct quotes), and I'm using the wonderful technology of closed captions. I noticed in several areas (specifically the Harry Voice Over spots), that the actual dialog and the captions are COMPLETELY different. Was the dialog changed after the caption agency went through? And when it comes time for a DVD release, are the subtitles going to be correct?
We did make some last minute VO changes, which probably were done too late for the CC folks. Which versions did you like better? :P
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Was doombox supposed to be a pun on boombox?
If it was, does that mean we can look forward to the CDoom Player and iDoom?
Oh yes. iDoom. I wants one!
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Another question.
Is the Doombox enchanted to make people want to open it? I figured it was since Bob is implying its a pretty hideous device.
Sort of like a handgrenade that's got a "Pull Pin for a fun surprise" on it but re-usable.
Will we ever see this magic again?
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Robert,
Something that hasn't been talked about, but is one of the main reasons things have been changed is the budget. You have to stay below a certain amount for each episode. Hense, the lower level of magic being tossed around, using Bob as a actor instead of a talking skull, the jeep instead of the Beetle, ect.
Maybe you could expand on the budget side of things somewhat. Not in detail, but in general. Maybe explain how the money needs to be spent and why Harry can't be slinging spells every five minutes.
Craig
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Hey Robert, I'm towards the end of transcribing the episode (for my own purposes, and if people want correct quotes), and I'm using the wonderful technology of closed captions. I noticed in several areas (specifically the Harry Voice Over spots), that the actual dialog and the captions are COMPLETELY different. Was the dialog changed after the caption agency went through? And when it comes time for a DVD release, are the subtitles going to be correct?
We did make some last minute VO changes, which probably were done too late for the CC folks. Which versions did you like better? :P
Well, other than it being really confusing while I'm trying to write the dialog quickly...both versions were good, maybe a melding of the two. I think it wouldn't have felt so rushed if people heard Harry lamenting over the case a little. (though you were right to change some of it, because what was changed did seem a bit repetative).
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The mix sounded pretty damn good both in person and on transfer (and on SPACE here in TO). I'll check and see what's what.
I agree Robert. I had no problem hearing the dialogue as it aired on SPACE. Perhaps there was a local problem in some parts of the States?
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Robert, did Harry actually trigger the doombox when he whispered, "Pop goes the weasel," at the end?
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It's a Sci-Fi Channel thing, not just a Dresden Files thing. Depending on your stereo set-up, your results may vary. I find it easier to understand the dialog using the built-in speakers on my crappy 16 year old TV than on my parents' 64" HDTV and 5.1 Dolby DTS digital super-badass surround house vibration machine.
The Abstruse One
Darryl Mott Jr.
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Despite the apparent audio issues, can I please go to your parents to watch episode 2? :D
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Mr. Wolfe, how much input were you given regarding the episodes being shown out of order? What percentage are you okay with it? And where do I go to see what order the episodes should be in?
If only Sci-Fi had learned from Firefly.
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Me again...
Hey Robert...I was wondering, what is the standpoint on transcripts of the episodes? Currently it's just for my personal use, but would there be copywrite issues if I'm including 'written by, directed by, produced by' and all that? If so, I will definitely keep it to myself, but if it's ok, I'll share it.
Also, "Aztec, WHAT, Mayan" and "Give it to me! Then you can WHAT" the first one sounds like Calmec and the second one sounds like transfer or trespass (which makes no sense). Neither of these lines were captioned (or captioned correctly).
Help would be wonderful.
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Me again...
Hey Robert...I was wondering, what is the standpoint on transcripts of the episodes? Currently it's just for my personal use, but would there be copywrite issues if I'm including 'written by, directed by, produced by' and all that? If so, I will definitely keep it to myself, but if it's ok, I'll share it.
Also, "Aztec, WHAT, Mayan" and "Give it to me! Then you can WHAT" the first one sounds like Calmec and the second one sounds like transfer or trespass (which makes no sense). Neither of these lines were captioned (or captioned correctly).
Help would be wonderful.
Probably Olmec. I might be able to help with the other if I get some context.
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Me again...
Hey Robert...I was wondering, what is the standpoint on transcripts of the episodes? Currently it's just for my personal use, but would there be copywrite issues if I'm including 'written by, directed by, produced by' and all that? If so, I will definitely keep it to myself, but if it's ok, I'll share it.
Also, "Aztec, WHAT, Mayan" and "Give it to me! Then you can WHAT" the first one sounds like Calmec and the second one sounds like transfer or trespass (which makes no sense). Neither of these lines were captioned (or captioned correctly).
Help would be wonderful.
Probably Olmec. I might be able to help with the other if I get some context.
I'm hearing Olmec as well. And the second line is definitely "Give it to me! Then you get your answers." (SHIGGY IS MY TRANSCRIPT HERO!)
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What are the powers of the Ravenmen? What was Melissa? Was she the Archive, but instead of all the world's knowledge she just had access to all the Council's records? How well off is Harry? He seemed to have a lot of expensive stuff arounf his apartment.
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Are all the scenes with Justin in "Birds of a Feather" flashbacks?
Nope. He's outside the church watching the Doom Box go off.
Wow! I completely missed picking up on that, and I've watched the episode twice. :o Thanks for clearing that up for me Robert. It also explains why the skinwalker's employer didn't want Harry killed (assuming that Justin is that employer). It would seem Harry's uncle hasn't quite given up on pulling him into his plans. I can't wait to see what he is up to.
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(For those wondering the answer of how the numbers were, the press release is on this thread: http://www.jim-butcher.com/bb/index.php/topic,293.150.html )
(They were good.)
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Robert...in the books, Harry tends to use words to focus his magic, like Forzare and
FlambegoFlicim Bicus ...will we see any of that, or was that tossed aside due to non-book readers not being able to tell that he's perverting using latin?
Will those type of spells even be in the series, or is that what you meant when you said there will be less magic being tossed around?
And do we ever get to hear Blackthorne deliver the infamous line "Stupid latin correspondence course...?"
Because I have a sneaking feeling he'd nail it.
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Oh yeah I think he would nail it right on the head!
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Oh...please let him say that line!!
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When do we get to see Harry's Office? Hope it is on the second floor, because it will mess up the scenes with the Scorpion if it isn't
Harry's apartment is suppose to be in a basement and his lab is in his subbasement, how do people right off the street in to his apartment? There are streets leading down to his apartment so he can't see down there right away. Going to be hard for Harry not to spot the vampires waiting to ambush him it they are on street level standing in front of his glass doors.
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When do we get to see Harry's Office? Hope it is on the second floor, because it will mess up the scenes with the Scorpion if it isn't
Harry's apartment is suppose to be in a basement and his lab is in his subbasement, how do people right off the street in to his apartment? There are streets leading down to his apartment so he can't see down there right away. Going to be hard for Harry not to spot the vampires waiting to ambush him it they are on street level standing in front of his glass doors.
Who's to say they even kept the scorpion? It's a one-hour adaptation of a 300+ page book. Things will be different, I assure you. And think of the budget! Do you have any idea how much a giant scorpion attack and elevator-demolition scene would cost?
We saw Harry's office door in the promos, and it's right on the street. Yet somehow, the world continues to turn.
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That's not his office that is his apartment, remember he comes up from the basement when he is asking Bob about his keys and goes out the double glass doors, we have not seen his office unless he is using his apartment as both and that is dangerous.
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Mr. Wolfe please satisfy our courosity(sp), when Harry corners the raven guy in the church does he say you are protecting the boy "For" or "From" the council?
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Only one real question:
Will Harry be doing more magic in later episodes? As a poster on another thread put it, the first ep needed more "earth-shattering ka-boom" :)
Yep, more, but never as much as in the books. Creatively, the TV show will be less magic heavy than the books, a little closer to our world. So Murphy is just a detective, there's no SI department that knows about and investigates supernatural cases. Dresden works magic more reluctantly, and it costs him more physically. Magic is hard.
That's not to say we don't have some pretty big magical moments coming up, just don't expect any buildings to blow up this season. Unless they do.
Erk. I can't say I'm not disappointed. I'm not disturbed about lack of exploding buildings, but about Harry and magic.
He's supposed to LIKE magic. He's supposed to putter around with it as a hobby, and make potions that might come in handy. He's supposed to have pamphlets in his front office explaining magic and how it's not evil.
Please don't turn him into the reluctant wizard.
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That's not his office that is his apartment, remember he comes up from the basement when he is asking Bob about his keys and goes out the double glass doors, we have not seen his office unless he is using his apartment as both and that is dangerous.
Priscellie mentioned that it was in the promos (of which there were at least 20), not that it was in the episode. Here is an image of his office door. I mirrored it so we could read it properly (which is why the writing on the squad is backwards).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/quizpics/dresdentvdoormirror.jpg)
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Mr. Wolfe please satisfy our courosity(sp), when Harry corners the raven guy in the church does he say you are protecting the boy "For" or "From" the council?
For the Council. Ravens were working for them.
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What are the powers of the Ravenmen?
Uh, like 4d8+4 HPs? Sword attack? Transform into Ravens or people or something in between. Flight at like 60" AC 15ish? I don't have my Oriental Adventures handy. Some check the entry for Tengu for me.
The boss Raven Man probably had a few wizard levels too.
What was Melissa? Was she the Archive, but instead of all the world's knowledge she just had access to all the Council's records?
Melissa was a records keeper for the High Council. A middle class type operator with limited abilities. She could access the Council records from anywhere with a thought. Pretty much a one trick pony.
How well off is Harry? He seemed to have a lot of expensive stuff arounf his apartment.
At one time, Harry fell into a fair amount of money. He doesn't have it anymore. But he still has some nice stuff left over from when he did. All will be explained. Patience.
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Me again...
Hey Robert...I was wondering, what is the standpoint on transcripts of the episodes? Currently it's just for my personal use, but would there be copywrite issues if I'm including 'written by, directed by, produced by' and all that? If so, I will definitely keep it to myself, but if it's ok, I'll share it.
Also, "Aztec, WHAT, Mayan" and "Give it to me! Then you can WHAT" the first one sounds like Calmec and the second one sounds like transfer or trespass (which makes no sense). Neither of these lines were captioned (or captioned correctly).
Help would be wonderful.
Probably Olmec. I might be able to help with the other if I get some context.
Si, Olmec.
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Robert, did Harry actually trigger the doombox when he whispered, "Pop goes the weasel," at the end?
Yes. That's what he set as the trigger phrase.
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Hey Robert, I know your busy, and we keep slamming you with questions, but I just wanted to reask about my transcript. Can I post it online as long as I have the "written by, directed by, etc" attached to the transcript? Or is that still considered copywrite infringement?
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Hey Robert, I know your busy, and we keep slamming you with questions, but I just wanted to reask about my transcript. Can I post it online as long as I have the "written by, directed by, etc" attached to the transcript? Or is that still considered copywrite infringement?
Errr, actually, pretty sure that would be copyright infringement. The publishing rights to the script belong to the original writer, in this case Peter Egan. I've published a few of my own scripts online, but since I hold the publishing rights, I can do that. I don't think anyone else can, especially not without permission, even if it's a recreated transcript. You could certainly quote sections of the script for commentary, review, or discussion, since that's fair use. But publishing a transcript of the entire thing sounds iffy.
NOTE: I am not a lawyer and am not licensed to practice law in the U.S. or Canada.
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Robert...in the books, Harry tends to use words to focus his magic, like Forzare and FlambegoFlicim Bicus ...will we see any of that, or was that tossed aside due to non-book readers not being able to tell that he's perverting using latin?
It was decided not to use "magic words" since it felt too reminiscent of Harry Potter.
Will those type of spells even be in the series, or is that what you meant when you said there will be less magic being tossed around?
There will definitely still be spells, including flying staffs and fire blasts and such. Just not with the words.
And do we ever get to hear Blackthorne deliver the infamous line "Stupid latin correspondence course...?"
Well, Bob rips him for his horrible French at one point, so it's certainly possible.
Because I have a sneaking feeling he'd nail it.
Me too.
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When do we get to see Harry's Office?
You've seen it, oh Great Grognard of the Internet. It's a storefront attached to his apartment, which is a walkdown in back and at street level by the time you get to the front.
And for the record, there is an Elmal. There has always been an Elmal. Everything you know about Yelmalio is a lie. Thank you for playing.
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It was decided not to use "magic words" since it felt too reminiscent of Harry Potter. There will definitely still be spells, including flying staffs and fire blasts and such. Just not with the words.
That just makes me sad. It's not like Potter is the first wizard to use spellwords. It's times like these that make me almost wish you guys *had* changed Harry's name to Erik for the TV show, so people would be less inclined to make comparisons between the two series. I'm amazed that the Potter books are having such a (in this fan's view) detrimental effect on the Dresden TV series. Yay spells and flying staffs and fire blasts, but... man. I'm going to miss that aspect of the books.
When do we get to see Harry's Office?
You've seen it, oh Great Grognard of the Internet. It's a storefront attached to his apartment, which is a walkdown in back and at street level by the time you get to the front.
Coolness! Ooh, I like.
And for the record, there is an Elmal. There has always been an Elmal. Everything you know about Yelmalio is a lie. Thank you for playing.
Okay, even after googling, I'm still stumped. Care to let the unenlightened among us in on the joke? :D
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Priscillie, I am really glad that I am not the only one who could make absolutely no sense out of that. I tried anagrams and everything. Some help here, Robert...pretty please?
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That just makes me sad. It's not like Potter is the first wizard to use spellwords. It's times like these that make me almost wish you guys *had* changed Harry's name to Erik for the TV show, so people would be less inclined to make comparisons between the two series. I'm amazed that the Potter books are having such a (in this fan's view) detrimental effect on the Dresden TV series. Yay spells and flying staffs and fire blasts, but... man. I'm going to miss that aspect of the books.
I completely agree. Harry Potter (a series I love) hardly invented the magic word. I think any comparisons made between the two would end after watching The Dresden Files and seeing how completely different they are. It's kind of insulting to the audience to think that it wouldn't.
wlg
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Still never gotten an answer...humor? Smart-ass? Snark? Will we be getting more than the itty bitty teeny weeny microscopic taste we got last week? Pretty please?
The Abstruse One
Darryl Mott Jr.
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For what it's worth:
http://www.etyries.com/journeys/elmal.htm
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Okay, even after googling, I'm still stumped. Care to let the unenlightened among us in on the joke? :D
No. ;D
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Still never gotten an answer...humor? Smart-ass? Snark? Will we be getting more than the itty bitty teeny weeny microscopic taste we got last week? Pretty please?
Bit more next week. Week after that is somewhat of a romance, kinda, so the same or less. Week after more. Week after that, still yet again more.
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For what it's worth:
http://www.etyries.com/journeys/elmal.htm
Oh, that's just the tip of the iceberg in the great Elmal/Yelmalio Retcon Incident. The last little vestige of a vast and angry debate. The internet fury was great! Teeth were gnashed! Flame wars devestated huge swaths of internet bandwidth.
It was horrible. Only now, in these dark days of arguing over set layouts, props and show cars have I see the fires threaten to light with such fervor again. Please, God, I pray to Thee, lead us not down that terrible path once again!
Just remember, there was always an Elmal. Any time you remember when there was not an Elmal is a false memory. Yelmalio is a God-Learner plot to confuse you.
Also Joseph Sisko was never dead. No matter what you heard Sisko say.
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Okay, even after googling, I'm still stumped. Care to let the unenlightened among us in on the joke? :D
No. ;D
Snot! :P
Oh, that's just the tip of the iceberg in the great Elmal/Yelmalio Retcon Incident. The last little vestige of a vast and angry debate. The internet fury was great! Teeth were gnashed! Flame wars devestated huge swaths of internet bandwidth.
It was horrible. Only now, in these dark days of arguing over set layouts, props and show cars have I see the fires threaten to light with such fervor again. Please, God, I pray to Thee, lead us not down that terrible path once again!
Just remember, there was always an Elmal. Any time you remember when there was not an Elmal is a false memory. Yelmalio is a God-Learner plot to confuse you.
Also Joseph Sisko was never dead. No matter what you heard Sisko say.
And THAT only adds to my confusion. Of course, it might be the Nyquil I just took.
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Would that be the DS9 Sisko?
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For what it's worth:
http://www.etyries.com/journeys/elmal.htm
Oh, that's just the tip of the iceberg in the great Elmal/Yelmalio Retcon Incident. The last little vestige of a vast and angry debate. The internet fury was great! Teeth were gnashed! Flame wars devestated huge swaths of internet bandwidth.
It was horrible. Only now, in these dark days of arguing over set layouts, props and show cars have I see the fires threaten to light with such fervor again. Please, God, I pray to Thee, lead us not down that terrible path once again!
Just remember, there was always an Elmal. Any time you remember when there was not an Elmal is a false memory. Yelmalio is a God-Learner plot to confuse you.
Also Joseph Sisko was never dead. No matter what you heard Sisko say.
This lends me to wonder if there's some tie in between the Gnomes of Zurich, Eris, Kevin Sorbo, the Mormons, Elvis, Pope Cerebus, the Church of the Subgenius, The King in Yellow, Dirk Gently, Harold Waldrop, Joe Landsdale, and Babe the Big Blue Ox's left....nevermind.
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If you are going to have all those tie-ins then give us back our magic words, staff, pentacle, basement apartment and subbasement.
I still have to ask, "glass doors", come on? Someone could throw a rock through them and kill him.
By the way "Shield Bracelet" is what it means shield, when he needed more he focused his magic through the pentacle. I know I know, I just can't let it go.
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Okay people have transcripts and viewed closed captions of show, all say "from" the council and you are saying for. So the script and closed caption is wrong?
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I still have to ask, "glass doors", come on? Someone could throw a rock through them and kill him.
Or if he's out for a walk someone might use a rifle at a thousand yards. I hear the bullet outruns its own sonic boom, so Dresden would never hear it coming! eep :o
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Okay people have transcripts and viewed closed captions of show, all say "from" the council and you are saying for. So the script and closed caption is wrong?
There are no official transcripts on the web, only what people have transcribed themselves and posted (which probably violates copyright laws, btw). As to closed captioning, having been exposed to a lot of it, it is very often wrong and/or makes no sense at all. Robert, who undoubtably is the authority on this, assures us that it is FOR, not FROM. I think I would take his word for it. Paul is British, doing an American accent, I'm sure some words are harder to speak clearly than others.
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Robert - is there going to be some big, giant toady thing that is going to crash thru those glass doors anytime soon? Requiring Harry and Bob to install some heavy duty dented and bashed industrial type doors?
If Justin is still alive, does that shift Ebenezar out of the storyline? That would mean Harry would never have been under the Doom of Demacles, and Ebenezar would never have been his mentor.
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It was decided not to use "magic words" since it felt too reminiscent of Harry Potter. There will definitely still be spells, including flying staffs and fire blasts and such. Just not with the words.
That just makes me sad. It's not like Potter is the first wizard to use spellwords. It's times like these that make me almost wish you guys *had* changed Harry's name to Erik for the TV show, so people would be less inclined to make comparisons between the two series. I'm amazed that the Potter books are having such a (in this fan's view) detrimental effect on the Dresden TV series. Yay spells and flying staffs and fire blasts, but... man. I'm going to miss that aspect of the books.
I'm right there with ya. I for one have felt absolutely no desire to ever read/watch Harry Potter because of all of the hype surrounding it, and now here it goes, ruining one of my favourite things about Dresden, his kick-ass blasting rod, flame spells, etc....etc.
I just think the series is different enough to Harry Potter (helloooo children's literature) for the comparison to be made, I mean c'mon, he's a paranormal investigator, he goes to crime scenes, I know you're playin' to the plebs, here, but argh. I want to hear that beautiful man say 'ventas servitas!' *cough* did I say beautiful man? I meant ah, good actor....
pwease, Robert, pretty pweeeeease? with a cherry on top?
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It was decided not to use "magic words" since it felt too reminiscent of Harry Potter. There will definitely still be spells, including flying staffs and fire blasts and such. Just not with the words.
That just makes me sad. It's not like Potter is the first wizard to use spellwords. It's times like these that make me almost wish you guys *had* changed Harry's name to Erik for the TV show, so people would be less inclined to make comparisons between the two series. I'm amazed that the Potter books are having such a (in this fan's view) detrimental effect on the Dresden TV series. Yay spells and flying staffs and fire blasts, but... man. I'm going to miss that aspect of the books.
I'm right there with ya. I for one have felt absolutely no desire to ever read/watch Harry Potter because of all of the hype surrounding it, and now here it goes, ruining one of my favourite things about Dresden, his kick-ass blasting rod, flame spells, etc....etc.
I just think the series is different enough to Harry Potter (helloooo children's literature) for the comparison to be made, I mean c'mon, he's a paranormal investigator, he goes to crime scenes, I know you're playin' to the plebs, here, but argh. I want to hear that beautiful man say 'ventas servitas!' *cough* did I say beautiful man? I meant ah, good actor....
pwease, Robert, pretty pweeeeease? with a cherry on top?
You might be surprised about Harry Potter. It was actually popular before any hype started. It became popular because people that read it told their friends about it.
I got into it at book 4 in spite of the hype.
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You might be surprised about Harry Potter. It was actually popular before any hype started. It became popular because people that read it told their friends about it.
I got into it at book 4 in spite of the hype.
Yeah, I have to agree. Both wizard's named Harry are really great. While Dresden is definitely more 'adult', the Potter series is also a great story that keeps building and getter stronger with each book. While you're waiting for the next Dresden book I recommend you try the other Harry. I mean, over hyped it may be, but that hype started for a reason.
wlg
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Hey Robert, is the CC going to be better for the rest of the series? Besides the VO issues I mentioned before, there are also words here and there either not captioned, or captioned wrong, and complete lines that are not captioned at all. I live in a fairly large deaf community, and the caption issues could pose significant problems with those viewers.
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Okay people have transcripts and viewed closed captions of show, all say "from" the council and you are saying for. So the script and closed caption is wrong?
Yes. They're wrong.
Paul's preposition here was almost inaudible on the production track, but did arguably sound more like "from" than "for." The real script says "for." CCing was done weeks in advance and was wrong. We looped it in post so he says "for" but because he was matching his original lip movement, it was never particularly a clear reading. In restrospect, probably should have clipped the entire phrase so he just says "protecting him" but we thought we'd gotten a clear enough loop line that the "for" was recognizable. I suspect that in the muddying of the sound downline of us, it became indistinct once again.
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Hey Robert, is the CC going to be better for the rest of the series? Besides the VO issues I mentioned before, there are also words here and there either not captioned, or captioned wrong, and complete lines that are not captioned at all. I live in a fairly large deaf community, and the caption issues could pose significant problems with those viewers.
God, I hope so. My wife has pretty bad allergies so sometimes we have to use the CCing in specific sequences of shows when her ears are clogged up. So I've noticed that a LOT of shows have terrible CCing. We're checking into this, but when we're still making a lot of minor adjustments very close to broadcast (season one blues) it can't be easy for them.
BTW how much of a geek am I that whenever I see the abbreviation CC, I think it stands for "Crowd Control."
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If Justin is still alive, does that shift Ebenezar out of the storyline? That would mean Harry would never have been under the Doom of Demacles, and Ebenezar would never have been his mentor.
Since we've simplified the backstory a bit and since we have Dresden kill Justin much later in life than in the books, there's not much room for Ebenezar. In some ways we cannabalized the book version of Ebenezar into Justin and a bit into Morgan and a bit into Mai.
That said, I do like the character so it'd be fun to incorporate him in some way down the line.
Let the flames begin!
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Thanks for clearing all that up Robert, I'll fix my transcript and such so that I have it correct.
Oh, and if you need help with captioning, I can type fairly quickly and accurately...and I'm cheap. :)
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Since we've simplified the backstory a bit and since we have Dresden kill Justin much later in life than in the books, there's not much room for Ebenezar. In some ways we cannabalized the book version of Ebenezar into Justin and a bit into Morgan and a bit into Mai.
That said, I do like the character so it'd be fun to incorporate him in some way down the line.
Let the flames begin!
Well...crap, man. I mean...crap. *sigh*
Ebenezar is kind of an important character in Harry's life, and his development into a responsible man. Plus, I was really looking forward to that kindly old man who could snap you in half without batting an eye, kind of like Wilford Brimley in The Firm, in his classic truck. (I really dig old trucks, probably the only reason I'd ever watch a rerun of MacGuyver is to see his truck on screen.)
Y'know...if you haven't finalized Mac's, maybe Eb and Mac could be business partners. It's never really been clear to me if Mac was a wizard, or if he was just tight with one. Maybe Eb is the one who helped him design the magic dispersing posts and work out the neutral territory agreements?
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I think it will be interesting to see how Ebenezar could materialize in some way down the road. I don't want it all just handed to us in the first few days. Those of us who know him would get it. I'm still putting in my request for Jason Statham as Mac though, could you work on that? ;-)
Harry seems much more Harry this week ~Lovin' it~ Great work! Oh, yeah and Bob had some good shiny Bobness to him too! Robert, You guys Rocked it this week! Congrats to you and the crew.
*Does that score me enough points for you to work on Mr. Statham? Just think of the ass kick'in he could hand out helping Harry. :0)
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Hey Robert,
Just as a note, Harry is older than he's in the books too. That means Justin could be Harry's mentor for Magical COLLEGE rather than his High School magician guy.
If you ever want to use him, just remember that there's no reason he couldn't be the Professor to Harry's magical B.A.
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Murph's comment about her having dreams about Harry just made me wonder - are we going to see Harry use his Third Eye?
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Hey Robert, just thought I'd let you know that the captions were a lot better in this ep, though there's still room for improvement. Apparently the caption people have trouble when Harry mumbles.
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In defense of DF, closed captioning is pretty hit and miss. Our television in the second grade wing has the CC stuck ON (and not one of the 'technological wizards' in our building can figure out how to get it OFF) so everytime we watch a movie, the words are there. Finding Nemo was hilarious. None of Dora's (Dory?) lines come out making any sense at all. I hope the kids aren't trying to read it, they'd be so confused!
BTW, Robert...this episode was GREAT. Much better than last week's (and I liked last week's). ;D
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Robert, when I was looking at the gallery of pictures over at SciFi, there was a picture of Bob holding Harry's hockey stick. After the Box O'Doom, I sure hope that Bob won't be the giver of all things magic to Harry, because Harry made his own magical stuff in the books. Is Bob going to endow the hockey stick with some sort of magic for Harry?
(I won't see tonight's episode till tomorrow - I have to be out of the house at a horrifically early hour tomorrow, so please forgive me if that scene is in "Boone Identity." If so, I'll modify this question.
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Robert, when I was looking at the gallery of pictures over at SciFi, there was a picture of Bob holding Harry's hockey stick. After the Box O'Doom, I sure hope that Bob won't be the giver of all things magic to Harry, because Harry made his own magical stuff in the books. Is Bob going to endow the hockey stick with some sort of magic for Harry?
Bob holding the hockey stick? Not possible. Harry made it himself and Bob can't touch stuff anyway. Must be a posed pic or something.
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Robert, when I was looking at the gallery of pictures over at SciFi, there was a picture of Bob holding Harry's hockey stick. After the Box O'Doom, I sure hope that Bob won't be the giver of all things magic to Harry, because Harry made his own magical stuff in the books. Is Bob going to endow the hockey stick with some sort of magic for Harry?
Bob holding the hockey stick? Not possible. Harry made it himself and Bob can't touch stuff anyway. Must be a posed pic or something.
For your reference:
(http://theninemuses.net/art/dresden/caps/bob08.jpg)
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Hm. They're in a morgue...
Bob, you naughty ghost!
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Ok, that's an action shot. Interesting.
Robert, a co-worker of mine swears he saw Melissa in the Hair of the Dog preview. Should we brace ourselves for a continuity glitch due to out-of-order airing, or is he on crack?
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Robert, a co-worker of mine swears he saw Melissa in the Hair of the Dog preview. Should we brace ourselves for a continuity glitch due to out-of-order airing, or is he on crack?
I'd check his "tabacco" very carefully.
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Ok, that's an action shot. Interesting.
On the other hand, that rockin' VFX article (http://www.jim-butcher.com/bb/index.php/topic,1713.0.html) showed Bob having the ability to change his appearance--he can even make himself look like Harry. It's not too big a leap of logic to assume he can manifest other noncorporeal items, like a representation of Harry's staff.
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Robert, a co-worker of mine swears he saw Melissa in the Hair of the Dog preview. Should we brace ourselves for a continuity glitch due to out-of-order airing, or is he on crack?
I'd check his "tabacco" very carefully.
I know the woman he's talking about. I thought she was Melissa at first, too. I paused and checked. Very similar looking.
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Ok, that's an action shot. Interesting.
On the other hand, that rockin' VFX article (http://www.jim-butcher.com/bb/index.php/topic,1713.0.html) showed Bob having the ability to change his appearance--he can even make himself look like Harry. It's not too big a leap of logic to assume he can manifest other noncorporeal items, like a representation of Harry's staff.
Or maybe Harry can look like Bob with the right spell/potion?
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Or maybe it's just taken out of context. Someone gets Harry's staff from him, Bob provokes them, they swing at him and he tries to block it. In the still, it looks like he catches it. The episode might have it fly right through him.
The Abstruse One
Darryl Mott Jr.
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I was wondering, is the reason we haven't seen Harry with his staff or blasting rod in the first two episodes because he hasn't finished making them yet?
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Just wanted to say Congradulations for making Yahoo news on Sunday. Dresden was the first article from the Entertainment tab of Yahoo news for about 2 hours Sunday afternoon with links to the first episode and the books.
I thought that was pretty awesome and was stoked to see it right there on the front.
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Bob holding the hockey stick? Not possible. Harry made it himself and Bob can't touch stuff anyway. Must be a posed pic or something.
Ghosts are capable of moving things. So why would they not be capable of lifting things? The visual is not the Dresdenverse reality, only the appearance of reality.
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I have a question... someone may or may not have asked.. and I don't have time to read every message in here.. so... I was wondering about the "soul gaze"... will the serie be using it??.. for I've keep waiting for Harry to soul gaze.. since he did have eyes contact with some people for more then a few seconds and no soul gaze ??? !!!..
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Robert, when I was looking at the gallery of pictures over at SciFi, there was a picture of Bob holding Harry's hockey stick. After the Box O'Doom, I sure hope that Bob won't be the giver of all things magic to Harry, because Harry made his own magical stuff in the books. Is Bob going to endow the hockey stick with some sort of magic for Harry?
Bob holding the hockey stick? Not possible. Harry made it himself and Bob can't touch stuff anyway. Must be a posed pic or something.
Yeah, I was wondering about that too and was going to ask you how coporeal is Bob.
Also, we know Melissa and Ms. Timmons/Skin walker could see Bob, but can normal everyday people see him (ie: Murphy)? He went to his skull before she entered the room in TBI.
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Also, we know Melissa and Ms. Timmons/Skin walker could see Bob, but can normal everyday people see him (ie: Murphy)? He went to his skull before she entered the room in TBI.
IIRC, the kid saw him too. But then, he's "special". However, given the fact Bob felt obliged to leave the room when he saw Murphy coming, I'll bet anyone can see him.
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I don't think Scott ever actually acknowledged that Bob was there. But hmm...gets me thinking.
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I didn't get the idea that Scott could see Bob either. He certainly completely ignored him in the scene they were in together.
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I didn't get the idea that Scott could see Bob either. He certainly completely ignored him in the scene they were in together.
That's what I thought aswell.
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Anyone ever consider asking fellow Canadian Jewel Staite to make a guest appearance??
Note from Mickey: In a re-occuring role, maybe? Pretty pwease with pizza on top?
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Robert, when I was looking at the gallery of pictures over at SciFi, there was a picture of Bob holding Harry's hockey stick. After the Box O'Doom, I sure hope that Bob won't be the giver of all things magic to Harry, because Harry made his own magical stuff in the books. Is Bob going to endow the hockey stick with some sort of magic for Harry?
Bob holding the hockey stick? Not possible. Harry made it himself and Bob can't touch stuff anyway. Must be a posed pic or something.
Yeah, I was wondering about that too and was going to ask you how coporeal is Bob.
Also, we know Melissa and Ms. Timmons/Skin walker could see Bob, but can normal everyday people see him (ie: Murphy)? He went to his skull before she entered the room in TBI.
Everyone can see Bob. And Bob can't touch anything.
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Anyone ever consider asking fellow Canadian Jewel Staite to make a guest appearance??
Note from Mickey: In a re-occuring role, maybe? Pretty pwease with pizza on top?
She's on my list of folks I'd like to use eventually if we find a good role for her. But she's in Vancouver, not Toronto, and she works a lot so the stars would have to align just right.
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Robert, when I was looking at the gallery of pictures over at SciFi, there was a picture of Bob holding Harry's hockey stick. After the Box O'Doom, I sure hope that Bob won't be the giver of all things magic to Harry, because Harry made his own magical stuff in the books. Is Bob going to endow the hockey stick with some sort of magic for Harry?
Bob holding the hockey stick? Not possible. Harry made it himself and Bob can't touch stuff anyway. Must be a posed pic or something.
Yeah, I was wondering about that too and was going to ask you how coporeal is Bob.
Also, we know Melissa and Ms. Timmons/Skin walker could see Bob, but can normal everyday people see him (ie: Murphy)? He went to his skull before she entered the room in TBI.
Everyone can see Bob. And Bob can't touch anything.
So could you explainy how Bob appears to be holding the staff in the pefore mentioned shot, sil vous plait?
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Robert, I brought this up before, but it was lost in the avalnche of posts. Could you comment on the basics of the series budget? That has to be a huge part of the changes we've seen bring the DF to TV. That would explain why Harry isn't slinging spells every five minutes, why Bob is ghost instead of skull spirit, and why jeep instead of beetle. I mean, if you were to do Storm Front as a TV novel and be 100% faithful to the novel, how much would something like that cost?
Thank you,
Craig
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I'd like to know if the 'steady cam' gets more 'steady' in later episodes, b/c it was rather wobbly in these first two. I understand a little bit of sway, unless more is intentional (ala Joss Whedon in "The Body" from BtVS), but this was like the cameraman was standing on the deck of a ship on less-than-calm water. It was almost distracting.
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That's not a steadycam, that's just handheld. ;)
Which is often used for effect...but it's also cheaper, because steadycams cost more...not just the equipment, but the operators, plus there are rules about how long they can be used in a shoot (the gyroscopes and weight have fun with your back), so that affects shooting schedule.
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I'd like to know if the 'steady cam' gets more 'steady' in later episodes, b/c it was rather wobbly in these first two. I understand a little bit of sway, unless more is intentional (ala Joss Whedon in "The Body" from BtVS), but this was like the cameraman was standing on the deck of a ship on less-than-calm water. It was almost distracting.
I'm going to have to go back and watch the tape, 'cause I didn't notice it at all - I guess I was too involved in the story!
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That's not a steadycam, that's just handheld. ;)
Which is often used for effect...but it's also cheaper, because steadycams cost more...not just the equipment, but the operators, plus there are rules about how long they can be used in a shoot (the gyroscopes and weight have fun with your back), so that affects shooting schedule.
Are these FigRig things a steadycam?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85003946@N00/sets/72157594271718672/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shygantic/tags/figrig/
Note from Mickey: Nope, but it's damn cool. Steadycams use gyroscopes to steady everything...if you catch a behind-the-scenes of the Shinning (the first film to really use them, and they lend a creepy factor to everything), you'll see them. They were also used as props in Aliens as the smart guns. remove the camerea, add the gun....
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Anyone ever consider asking fellow Canadian Jewel Staite to make a guest appearance??
Note from Mickey: In a re-occuring role, maybe? Pretty pwease with pizza on top?
She's on my list of folks I'd like to use eventually if we find a good role for her. But she's in Vancouver, not Toronto, and she works a lot so the stars would have to align just right.
You're welcome to use any of the actors from Firefly, I won't complain! That was a great cast. Adam Baldwin is about the right size for Michael...
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Doesn't Adam Baldwin have his own TV show right now?
Robert: What's with the middle name in the credits? Are you so all important that you need to tell everyone your full name? Kind of like how people emphasise the "ESQUIRE" in their name to make them sound all important.
I'm kidding, I imagine it has something to do with someone else having the same name, but aren't you affraid a wizard will use your full name against you? Or do you have 2 middle names?
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Doesn't Adam Baldwin have his own TV show right now?
Robert: What's with the middle name in the credits? Are you so all important that you need to tell everyone your full name? Kind of like how people emphasise the "ESQUIRE" in their name to make them sound all important.
I'm kidding, I imagine it has something to do with someone else having the same name, but aren't you affraid a wizard will use your full name against you? Or do you have 2 middle names?
There was a Robert Wolfe who worked on DYNASTY, actually. I think he was even credited as Robert H. Wolfe, freakishly enough. And there's also the NY Times Crossword puzzle guy. I could drop the middle name on my credits since I'm probably the most prominent Robert Wolfe working in the biz right now, but I'm just used to using my middle name as well now. If I ever get one of my features made, I'll probably drop the middle name just to add confusion.
And I was raised Catholic, so I have a confirmation name, too. Which makes me wizard proof. =P
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You possess not an uncommon name, evidently. I've been recruited by the dreadedhighschoolreunion committee and was thumbing through an old yearbook. Turns out I went to school with a Robert Wolfe (Class of '82). He was Catholic, too, as I recall. But he went by "Bobby" and he's in prison now. :o
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Doesn't Adam Baldwin have his own TV show right now?
Robert: What's with the middle name in the credits? Are you so all important that you need to tell everyone your full name? Kind of like how people emphasise the "ESQUIRE" in their name to make them sound all important.
I'm kidding, I imagine it has something to do with someone else having the same name, but aren't you affraid a wizard will use your full name against you? Or do you have 2 middle names?
He's probably safe from wizards using his name against him. They would have to know exactly how he pronounces his name. He's only at risk if a wizard pretends to be a secretary for IMDB and asks him to state his full name. Or, if he has to be a witness in court in front of a roomful of wizards that want to end the show.
It might not even be his real name. After all, actors have stage names. Why can't the people who make shows?
No, his name is probably safe. Where he's really at risk is from sending out snippets of his hair to all those fans. Not from a magical attack, but from going bald.
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Robert, what exactly are the responsibilities of your Wizard Consultant on the series? What are her credentials? ???
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This has probably been asked before, by my brain is blanking, so I'll ask:
Is Lasciel going to be popping into Harry's head at any point?
Thanks for everything Robert!!!
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Doesn't Adam Baldwin have his own TV show right now?
Robert: What's with the middle name in the credits? Are you so all important that you need to tell everyone your full name? Kind of like how people emphasise the "ESQUIRE" in their name to make them sound all important.
I'm kidding, I imagine it has something to do with someone else having the same name, but aren't you affraid a wizard will use your full name against you? Or do you have 2 middle names?
There was a Robert Wolfe who worked on DYNASTY, actually. I think he was even credited as Robert H. Wolfe, freakishly enough. And there's also the NY Times Crossword puzzle guy. I could drop the middle name on my credits since I'm probably the most prominent Robert Wolfe working in the biz right now, but I'm just used to using my middle name as well now. If I ever get one of my features made, I'll probably drop the middle name just to add confusion.
And I was raised Catholic, so I have a confirmation name, too. Which makes me wizard proof. =P
Jokes aside, I assume everyone knows the rules regarding names and credits? Robert, I hope you'll correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall the union rules mean that there can only be one of any given name used at a time. Using Robert as an example, the fact that there are others with the same name who work in the industry means the name was taken. This is also why so many actors (David Hyde Pierce comes to mind) use three names, or even 2 names and middle initials. If you're old enough to remember Jm J. Bullock, he once explained the story behind his name. His actual name (Jim) was taken...there was a Jim Bullock, and his father (also in the industry) used Jim J. Bullock. Hence his decision to drop the vowel in his "stage name".
Once again, keeper of useless information,
Keith :)
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Another question that popped up when reviewing Birds of a Feather. In the opening scene, Laura states that she feels "strangely rested, despite the lack of sleep". Are we to assume that sex with Harry is rejuvenative? ::)
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Another question that popped up when reviewing Birds of a Feather. In the opening scene, Laura states that she feels "strangely rested, despite the lack of sleep". Are we to assume that sex with Harry is rejuvenative? ::)
Interesting question. I hadn't thought of that. I just thought we were supposed to assume that Harry has a lot of....stamina. ;D
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Another question that popped up when reviewing Birds of a Feather. In the opening scene, Laura states that she feels "strangely rested, despite the lack of sleep". Are we to assume that sex with Harry is rejuvenative? ::)
Well, good sex is. ;)
REALLLLY good sex is, but damages property.*
*Reading YOU SUCK: A Love Story by Chris Moore right now. Sorry.
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Another question that popped up when reviewing Birds of a Feather. In the opening scene, Laura states that she feels "strangely rested, despite the lack of sleep". Are we to assume that sex with Harry is rejuvenative? ::)
Well, good sex is. ;)
REALLLLY good sex is, but damages property.*
*Reading YOU SUCK: A Love Story by Chris Moore right now. Sorry.
OMG. I didn't know it was out... how is it? Fiends is one of my favorites (after Coyote Blue) :)
Replying in here to not derail the thread. It's very good...highly reccomend Moore to Butcher fans, especially A Dirty Job, The Stupidest Angel, Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal, and Coyote Blue. They're a different tone, but the snark is turned way up to 11. Putting Jim, Chris, Max Barry, Steven Brust, Bob Asprin, Robert Wolfe, and John Steakley in a free form panel for 3 hours would just be...interesting. Snarkadelic. -Mickey
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That's not a steadycam, that's just handheld. ;)
Which is often used for effect...but it's also cheaper, because steadycams cost more...not just the equipment, but the operators, plus there are rules about how long they can be used in a shoot (the gyroscopes and weight have fun with your back), so that affects shooting schedule.
ack - got my steady-cam and hand-held mixed up - either way - it was still too wobbly... effect is one thing, but when it looks like the camera's had a little too much to drink, it's not an effect anymore....
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Robert...Harry's apparent lack of a gremlin-field around electronics keeps coming up.
Here's my theory from another thread:
On the show, magic is less blatant. I'm assuming (the issue hasn't come up yet to explain it) that Harry's gremlin-field in the show only manifests when he's near something AND using magic, rather than an ambient field like the books. The candles are mostly in his lab, and I bet when Jim's blackberry goes bad in the show, Harry's working magic in the morgue.
This hasn't become an issue in the show as yet, so if I'm right, there hasn't been an opportunity to write dialogue for it. The average viewer doesn't need to know this right off, just the fans of the books.
So am I right in this...magic only screws with stuff when actually ACTIVE, rather than a general field of roll-the-dice around Harry? Or dead wrong?
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Another question that popped up when reviewing Birds of a Feather. In the opening scene, Laura states that she feels "strangely rested, despite the lack of sleep". Are we to assume that sex with Harry is rejuvenative? ::)
Well, good sex is. ;)
REALLLLY good sex is, but damages property.*
*Reading YOU SUCK: A Love Story by Chris Moore right now. Sorry.
OMG. I didn't know it was out... how is it? Fiends is one of my favorites (after Coyote Blue) :)
Replying in here to not derail the thread. It's very good...highly reccomend Moore to Butcher fans, especially A Dirty Job, The Stupidest Angel, Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal, and Coyote Blue. They're a different tone, but the snark is turned way up to 11. Putting Jim, Chris, Max Barry, Steven Brust, Bob Asprin, Robert Wolfe, and John Steakley in a free form panel for 3 hours would just be...interesting. Snarkadelic. -Mickey
MAN! I so wanted to read that, but I couldn't afford it when I went to B&N. My friend keeps telling me to read A Dirty Job, but the library is always, always out of stock. *pout*
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Robert...Harry's apparent lack of a gremlin-field around electronics keeps coming up.
Here's my theory from another thread:
On the show, magic is less blatant. I'm assuming (the issue hasn't come up yet to explain it) that Harry's gremlin-field in the show only manifests when he's near something AND using magic, rather than an ambient field like the books. The candles are mostly in his lab, and I bet when Jim's blackberry goes bad in the show, Harry's working magic in the morgue.
This hasn't become an issue in the show as yet, so if I'm right, there hasn't been an opportunity to write dialogue for it. The average viewer doesn't need to know this right off, just the fans of the books.
So am I right in this...magic only screws with stuff when actually ACTIVE, rather than a general field of roll-the-dice around Harry? Or dead wrong?
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Or when he's upset or emotional. Or when the stuff is delicate and high tech. Note how he hovered back from the computer in Boone. Note that he still has a ton of candles around and cooks with gas (which is electronic free if you hand light the gas burner). Note that his lab is basicially entirely electricity free. And he uses a rotary phone. And he still drives the a relic of a car, too.
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{{Turns out I went to school with a Robert Wolfe (Class of '82). He was Catholic, too, as I recall. But he went by "Bobby" and he's in prison now.}}
Robert - are you writing from Jail?? ;-)
Any plans for the not-so-great Fairy Godmother to make an appearance in the future?
*Looks like Adam Baldwin and Summer Glua scored a new shows-
It looks like Summer will be in the new TV "Terminator" spinoff
series, "The Sarah Connor Chronicles."
http://whedonesque.com/comments/12422
And Adam's apparently landed a job in a show called "Chuck" which
comes from the creator of "The O.C."
http://whedonesque.com/comments/12421
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*Looks like Adam Baldwin and Summer Glua scored a new shows-
It looks like Summer will be in the new TV "Terminator" spinoff
series, "The Sarah Connor Chronicles."
http://whedonesque.com/comments/12422
If they do this anything like the old NOW comics project, in which there were multiple Terminators sent back in time at once, it could be interesting.
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Yeah, that's pretty much it. Or when he's upset or emotional. Or when the stuff is delicate and high tech.
So was Murphy's computer not going out in "The Boone Identity" an "oops"? Harry was sitting right by it in her cubicle and his emotions were running pretty high between having just been shot at and arguing with Murphy. I was completely expecting a BSOD from it in the least.
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Yeah, that's pretty much it. Or when he's upset or emotional. Or when the stuff is delicate and high tech.
So was Murphy's computer not going out in "The Boone Identity" an "oops"? Harry was sitting right by it in her cubicle and his emotions were running pretty high between having just been shot at and arguing with Murphy. I was completely expecting a BSOD from it in the least.
Hmm. I'd not really noticed the cubicle as being her desk.
Is Murphy the SI boss in the show yet or does the SI boss just not rate an office? Or did you guys change it to a cubicle for space reasons, because shooting in an office is problematic?
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Yeah, that's pretty much it. Or when he's upset or emotional. Or when the stuff is delicate and high tech.
So was Murphy's computer not going out in "The Boone Identity" an "oops"? Harry was sitting right by it in her cubicle and his emotions were running pretty high between having just been shot at and arguing with Murphy. I was completely expecting a BSOD from it in the least.
Hmm. I'd not really noticed the cubicle as being her desk.
Is Murphy the SI boss in the show yet or does the SI boss just not rate an office? Or did you guys change it to a cubicle for space reasons, because shooting in an office is problematic?
Not wishing to butt in, but I was under the impression that the TV show had decided to dispense with SI altogether. You can see their point, if they're downplaying the magic and supernatural stuff, Chicago police wouldn't need a special team to investigate such things would they? On the other hand they do need a Wizard PI. ??? Does not compute!! ??? ??? ???
-Note from Mickey...yep, no SI. However, many law enforcement agencies use psychics as paid consultants, this is really no different.
ETA Yes Mickey the police use psychic consultants I know but I don't think any of the ones the British police use claim to be Wizards. Or are you saying psychics are wizards and vice versa? ;)
-Note from Mickey: I'm saying that, as far as the beancounters are concerned, they are the same thing. ;)
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*Looks like Adam Baldwin and Summer Glua scored a new shows-
It looks like Summer will be in the new TV "Terminator" spinoff
series, "The Sarah Connor Chronicles."
http://whedonesque.com/comments/12422
If they do this anything like the old NOW comics project, in which there were multiple Terminators sent back in time at once, it could be interesting.
::Looking around quickly hopeing noone noticing the slight derailment::
Summer Glau is also in the series The Unit as a somewhat regular (prolly only the one season but who can say at this point).
::Dashes off before anyone notices::
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Is Murphy the SI boss in the show yet or does the SI boss just not rate an office? Or did you guys change it to a cubicle for space reasons, because shooting in an office is problematic?
http://www.jim-butcher.com/bb/index.php/topic,1788.0.html
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That just makes me sad. It's not like Potter is the first wizard to use spellwords.
I completely agree. Harry Potter (a series I love) hardly invented the magic word.
I agree, as well. And on a similar note (sorry to add a slight derailment by responding so late; I just got here), I quickly tired of people (IMDb/SciFi) complaining that Harry & Bob looking the Ravens up in a book was too Charmed-like. When has there been a wizard in history/literature who did not have at least one reference book? Maybe not a "Book of Shadows," but even Bob makes a mention of his "first grimoire" - I think in the first episode... - Grimoires are real, historic texts on magic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimoire), so where's the fault?
*carefully sets thread back on tracks*
*waves to Robert* Hi! :) I don't have a question at this time, but I'm truly enjoying the show (without having read the books). Keep up the great work!
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Re: research - not to mention those other two magically-slanted series that always got busy with the bookwork: Buffy and Angel.
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Right. And even Gandalf has to go through moldy old books to find out more about Bilbo's ring. He suspects what it is, but he needs to do research to be sure.
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Hey Robert, will we be seeing Michael in season 1? Or ever? :)
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Hey Robert, will we be seeing Michael in season 1? Or ever? :)
Not season one, hopefully eventually.
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Robert, I'm curious. In the tv Dresdenverse, it seems everyone can see and knows about Bob. Is it true that whoever has the skull controls Bob? Doesn't Bob have the potential to do great evil with the wrong "master"? Will there be any attempts by some of the villians to remove Bob from Harry's care?
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Robert, quick question about Storm Front. Actually, two questions, but they go together. Where does Storm Front fall in a continuity timline, and did some of the reshoots done shift the episode around? And, were any actors/actresses, such as Ancient Mai, replaced in reshoots?
Just so you know where I'm coming from, after watching Bad Blood, the "that's a new look for you," suggests Storm Front still falls before that episode. But is it still considered as happening prior to all of the episodes? And it also suggests that Elizabeth Thai is still in for Storm Front, but there is talk floating around that maybe the reshoots were to change actresses. I just wondered if that did happen to anyone. If this question's already been asked, my bad. I'm sure someone'll let me know PDQ. ;)
And I have to say, I think the show is starting to hit it's stride. I hope it finishes as strong as the last few episodes have been.
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Will there be any attempts by some of the villians to remove Bob from Harry's care?
Yes. Click here for Episode Description thread - specifically, "What About Bob?" (http://www.jim-butcher.com/bb/index.php/topic,2062.0.html) :)
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Robert, I'm curious. In the tv Dresdenverse, it seems everyone can see and knows about Bob. Is it true that whoever has the skull controls Bob? Doesn't Bob have the potential to do great evil with the wrong "master"? Will there be any attempts by some of the villians to remove Bob from Harry's care?
Not everyone knows about him, though everyone can see him.
Yes.
Yes.
Stay tuned.
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Robert, quick question about Storm Front. Actually, two questions, but they go together. Where does Storm Front fall in a continuity timline, and did some of the reshoots done shift the episode around?
Yes.
And, were any actors/actresses, such as Ancient Mai, replaced in reshoots?
Mai was not reshot. This is not a continuity error.
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Thanks for the answers! And I'm glad Mai wasn't reshot; I'm interested in the other actresses take on it. Everyone who's seen her keeps raving about her on the forums.
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Robert, in the Bad Blood thread I asked a question that got lost in the conversation. In the confrontation with Harry, it looked to me as though Ancient Mai's face slipped into what appeared to me as a dragon. Are all the wardens in the tv Dresdenverse human? Do some of them have other identities?
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Robert, does your production company own the Dresden Files merchandising rights? Will you be releasing any cool stuff for us? ;D
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Robert, in the Bad Blood thread I asked a question that got lost in the conversation. In the confrontation with Harry, it looked to me as though Ancient Mai's face slipped into what appeared to me as a dragon. Are all the wardens in the tv Dresdenverse human? Do some of them have other identities?
No comment. And Mai's not a warden, for what it's worth.
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Robert, does your production company own the Dresden Files merchandising rights? Will you be releasing any cool stuff for us? ;D
God, I wish. That's up to Lionsgate. I certainly hope so.
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Hey, Robert! Quick question: Do the Red Court vampires have addictive saliva, as they do in the books?
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SQUEEE--Robert's prevaricating. Could Ancient Mai actually be a dragon?
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Robert, does your production company own the Dresden Files merchandising rights? Will you be releasing any cool stuff for us? ;D
God, I wish. That's up to Lionsgate. I certainly hope so.
So do we! So do we!
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SQUEEE--Robert's prevaricating. Could Ancient Mai actually be a dragon?
I'm having flashbacks to the Golden Child, with the woman who had dragon's blood in her.
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Hey, Robert! Quick question: Do the Red Court vampires have addictive saliva, as they do in the books?
They do in the original version of "Storm Front." We'll have to see if it's preserved in the aired version.
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[tongueincheek]
Hey Robert. Any chance you could talk to someone and get Quizno's to change their commercial out? That young lady who squees about the meaty sandwich really freaks me out! I don't think I'll set foot in a Quizno's until they stop airing it. ;)
[/tongueincheek]
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Robert, I'm curious. In the tv Dresdenverse, it seems everyone can see and knows about Bob. Is it true that whoever has the skull controls Bob? Doesn't Bob have the potential to do great evil with the wrong "master"? Will there be any attempts by some of the villians to remove Bob from Harry's care?
I'm pretty sure this will come up in the episode About Bob. I could have sworn in Rules of Engagement Harry ordered Bob to get into his skull and added 'That's a command, Bob.' forcing him to comply.
Bob's personality is his own but I think he has to obey whoever has the skull and Bob, of course, knows a lot of dark magick. A dark wizard asking him the right question and it's like having a keg of gasoline around a fire.
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Robert, does your production company own the Dresden Files merchandising rights? Will you be releasing any cool stuff for us? ;D
Oh, I'm picturing action figures.
Harry comes with a hockey stick and drum stick.
Bob comes with his own skull.
Murphy comes with a badge and gun.
Morgan comes with a sword.
Little ceramic bob skulls.
DVD sets (obviously).
And for the Hot Topic shoppers...
Full sized replicas of Bob's manacles
Harry's mother's Pentacle.
Harry's protection bracelet.
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Will Harry's Godmother be introduced into the series?
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Hey, Robert! Quick question: Do the Red Court vampires have addictive saliva, as they do in the books?
Not in the one hour long version of STORM FRONT they don't. ;D
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Will Harry's Godmother be introduced into the series?
Oh, I'd love that. I'm only half way through reading Grave Peril and I love the way she appears.
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SQUEEE--Robert's prevaricating. Could Ancient Mai actually be a dragon?
I'm not prevaricating! I'm equivocating.
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Will Harry's Godmother be introduced into the series?
Oh, I'd love that. I'm only half way through reading Grave Peril and I love the way she appears.
From the glimpses we've seen of Lea, I find her to be rather fascinating. I would love seeing her on the series.
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I, myself, am very interested in Bob right now.
I'm hoping we get a full flash back of when he was a live. I want to know if he'll ever be able to touch anything.
I'm nervous about the up coming Bob based finale. My biggest hope is that even if Bob does get tempted by Justin he turns against him and saves the day in that one. I don't know if it's my love of Terrence Mann and pity for Bob's plight effecting my view of things but I just don't really think he's all that evil. To me he's like a light gray character similar to Methos from Highlander the series. Oh, but the tension is mounting. You can see something building around Bob and it's getting to me.
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Ha! You big time producers can't fool ME!
Definitions (form Webster's II):
Equivocate: to use vague or intentionally evasive language.
Prevaricate: to speak evasively; equivocate. ;D
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[tongueincheek]
Hey Robert. Any chance you could talk to someone and get Quizno's to change their commercial out? That young lady who squees about the meaty sandwich really freaks me out! I don't think I'll set foot in a Quizno's until they stop airing it. ;)
[/tongueincheek]
Oh, good. I'm not the only one! :P
No, no you're not. That sound does not belong ...well, anywhere, actually. -Mickey
Hey, I got an edit-comment from Mickey! ;D That amuses me for no good reason.
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[tongueincheek]
Hey Robert. Any chance you could talk to someone and get Quizno's to change their commercial out? That young lady who squees about the meaty sandwich really freaks me out! I don't think I'll set foot in a Quizno's until they stop airing it. ;)
[/tongueincheek]
Oh, good. I'm not the only one! :P
No, no you're not. That sound does not belong ...well, anywhere, actually. -Mickey
Hey, I got an edit-comment from Mickey! ;D That amuses me for no good reason.
Speaking as a "real woman" who eats meat, I want to beat that skreeling girl to death with a stale hoagie.
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That stuff isn't prime rib, unless they think placing ribs from a cow, and slicing at the second, third, fifth, seventh and eleventh is good enough.
I'm actually less likely to get a Quizno's sub after seeing that...
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The only thing I 'd like to own from the show would be some of the Dresden business cards for my wallet, etc. I think that would be cool. I guess I could make them up on my computer. Oh, and maybe Bob's skull, and a banner with symbols for my wall, and .........
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The only thing I 'd like to own from the show would be some of the Dresden business cards for my wallet, etc. I think that would be cool. I guess I could make them up on my computer. Oh, and maybe Bob's skull, and a banner with symbols for my wall, and .........
I can imagine it now.
Skull comes with manacles. Enslaved ghost sold seperately. :P
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Speaking as a "real woman" who eats meat, I want to beat that skreeling girl to death with a stale hoagie.
If you need some help, I'll be happy to grab the half-loaf of garlic bread that's been in my fridge for longer than I like to think about and join you. ;D
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Speaking as a "real woman" who eats meat, I want to beat that skreeling girl to death with a stale hoagie.
If you need some help, I'll be happy to grab the half-loaf of garlic bread that's been in my fridge for longer than I like to think about and join you. ;D
I think that its worse than those old Quizzno's commercials with the stupid singing whatever-the-hell they were from a couple years ago. And i never thought that i would say that.
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We should send these posts to Quizno's with the message that their current ad campaign is not helping their financial outlook. :P
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Speaking as a "real woman" who eats meat, I want to beat that skreeling girl to death with a stale hoagie.
If you need some help, I'll be happy to grab the half-loaf of garlic bread that's been in my fridge for longer than I like to think about and join you. ;D
Let the beatings commence! It's all good fun...
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The only thing I 'd like to own from the show would be some of the Dresden business cards for my wallet, etc. I think that would be cool. I guess I could make them up on my computer. Oh, and maybe Bob's skull, and a banner with symbols for my wall, and .........
I can imagine it now.
Skull comes with manacles. Enslaved ghost sold seperately. :P
How could he be sold separately...? :P
But I want one. Skull, manacles, ghost. The whole set. I could get back into thaumaturgy.
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The only thing I 'd like to own from the show would be some of the Dresden business cards for my wallet, etc. I think that would be cool. I guess I could make them up on my computer. Oh, and maybe Bob's skull, and a banner with symbols for my wall, and .........
I can imagine it now.
Skull comes with manacles. Enslaved ghost sold seperately. :P
How could he be sold separately...? :P
But I want one. Skull, manacles, ghost. The whole set. I could get back into thaumaturgy.
Someone should sell Terrence Mann on ebay.
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The only thing I 'd like to own from the show would be some of the Dresden business cards for my wallet, etc. I think that would be cool. I guess I could make them up on my computer. Oh, and maybe Bob's skull, and a banner with symbols for my wall, and .........
I can imagine it now.
Skull comes with manacles. Enslaved ghost sold seperately. :P
How could he be sold separately...? :P
But I want one. Skull, manacles, ghost. The whole set. I could get back into thaumaturgy.
Someone should sell Terrence Mann on ebay.
No one can afford him.
You guys are making me hungry for Quiznos.
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STEEEEEEeeeering the thread back on course.....
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STEEEEEEeeeering the thread back on course.....
*salutes* Aye, aye, cap'n!
*tries to think of a question for Robert*
*fails*
*reboots*
So, Robert... Seven episodes later, now that things are a bit more settled, are you generally happy with the fan/critic reactions to the show? :)
OR
How's the weather?
OR
Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
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Why do hot dogs come in packages of ten and hot dog buns in packages of eight?
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Why do hot dogs come in packages of ten and hot dog buns in packages of eight?
A common question, luckilly google has the answer!
It's because the haruspex said so! DO NOT QUESTION THE HARUSPEX!
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Why do hot dogs come in packages of ten and hot dog buns in packages of eight?
A common question, luckilly google has the answer!
It's because the haruspex said so! DO NOT QUESTION THE HARUSPEX!
Haha.
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Why do hot dogs come in packages of ten and hot dog buns in packages of eight?
For the Discordians in the party, who eat our hot dogs without buns.
Hail Eris.
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Guys, seriously, Robert's time is limited, so please keep things on track in the ASK ROBERT (and ASK JIM) threads. These are the only threads I'm really concerned with that (being a master of tangents, myself).
Robert may, of course, wander the boards at his leisure and respond to things...but for the ASK threads, we try to keep things tidy. This does not mean you can't make small tangents within your post...the point is to avoid pages of non-topic back and forths he has to shift through, looking for questions.
Nobody's in trouble, mind. Well, except for Robert, for having wasps sting Harry's face, apparently.
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Guys, seriously, Robert's time is limited, so please keep things on track in the ASK ROBERT (and ASK JIM) threads. These are the only threads I'm really concerned with that (being a master of tangents, myself).
Robert may, of course, wander the boards at his leisure and respond to things...but for the ASK threads, we try to keep things tidy. This does not mean you can't make small tangents within your post...the point is to avoid pages of non-topic back and forths he has to shift through, looking for questions.
Nobody's in trouble, mind. Well, except for Robert, for having wasps sting Harry's face, apparently.
Terribly sorry; quite right; hard not to natter!
I do have a question for Robert: how come, in Walls when Bob introduced himself to Raychelle, did he give his name as Bob and not Robert Bainbridge? Seems you'd give a potential client, especially one you were trying to quickly impress, your full name. Also would've been a great way to give the audience Bob's full name. Are we ever going to hear it actually said?
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I wonder if Justin calls Bob by his real name.
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So, Robert... Seven episodes later, now that things are a bit more settled, are you generally happy with the fan/critic reactions to the show? :)
Pretty happy so far. I'd love it if the rating were about 25% to 50% higher, but Sunday nights are tough sledding.
How's the weather?
Great! I'm back in Los Angeles. Another beautiful spring day today. Though the winter has been a little dry, so fire season is going to suck.
Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
Currently pondering:
Where should we go for vacation?
Should I take another gig to fill the time while I wait to hear about the renewal for DF?
Given my very limited play-time, is it really worth leveling my human mage up to 70? Or should I just transfer all her gold to my undead priest?
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I do have a question for Robert: how come, in Walls when Bob introduced himself to Raychelle, did he give his name as Bob and not Robert Bainbridge? Seems you'd give a potential client, especially one you were trying to quickly impress, your full name. Also would've been a great way to give the audience Bob's full name. Are we ever going to hear it actually said?
He was trying to be all modern and accessible for the pretty girl. And yes, we will hear the entire thing.
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He was trying to be all modern and accessible for the pretty girl. And yes, we will hear the entire thing.
Thanks for the answer! "All modern" hee!
Just for the record, here in Jersey? Frickin' ice storm. Wherever you go on your vacation, I suggest, not the Northeast.
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Currently pondering:
Where should we go for vacation?
Branson MO. Because it has to be seen to be believed.
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Currently pondering:
Where should we go for vacation?
Branson MO. Because it has to be seen to be believed.
I prefer Eureka Springs, AR personally - somewhat less commercial.
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Branson, MO? Arkansas? Not to 'dis' anyone but....HAWAII...Fiji, um...Bora Bora? Someplace exotic and relaxing. That's a vacation.
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"Should I take another gig to fill the time while I wait to hear about the renewal for DF?"
Which brings up the question about hearing about renewal....
As you've been dodging the "when will we hear about renewal?"question, here's a variation...what would be the OUTSIDE time we should hear it by? IE, at one point are people released from contracts if TPtB don't renew them?
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How about the Atlantis resort? I will make all the arrangements for you and be glad to accompay you and fill in as your major doma. :)
http://www.atlantis.com/flash.aspx
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How about the Atlantis resort? I will make all the arrangements for you and be glad to accompay you and fill in as your major doma. :)
http://www.atlantis.com/flash.aspx
Definitely worth the trip, even if it's just to check out the sharks and mantas *the waterslide is kickass BTW*.
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Currently pondering:
Where should we go for vacation?
Branson MO. Because it has to be seen to be believed.
Yeah, I'm sure Hell has it's unique attributes, too. Very scenic. I'll pass. :P
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"Should I take another gig to fill the time while I wait to hear about the renewal for DF?"
Which brings up the question about hearing about renewal....
As you've been dodging the "when will we hear about renewal?"question, here's a variation...what would be the OUTSIDE time we should hear it by? IE, at one point are people released from contracts if TPtB don't renew them?
I think that unless they pay to extend some contracts, the deadline is late June.
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Branson, MO? Arkansas? Not to 'dis' anyone but....HAWAII...Fiji, um...Bora Bora? Someplace exotic and relaxing. That's a vacation.
I live on the west coast, so been to Hawaii several times. Right now I'm thinking Spain. Especially southern Spain.
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How's the weather?
Great! I'm back in Los Angeles. Another beautiful spring day today. Though the winter has been a little dry, so fire season is going to suck.
Sounds like your weather's more pleasant than what we have out here in the California desert - it's way too early for it to be this hot! ...And, you've just made me that much more eager to move back to L.A. :P Don't have use for an English degree holder, do ya?
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How did the whole police thing get sorted out? They've still got three dead bodies and an active investigation.
And how does Kirmani reconcile Dresden's use of magic? Seems he got to see it up close and personal.
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Currently pondering:
Where should we go for vacation?
Branson MO. Because it has to be seen to be believed.
Yeah, I'm sure Hell has it's unique attributes, too. Very scenic. I'll pass. :P
Well, if you're looking for unsual, exotic, and hard to get to, there's always Tristan da Cunha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_da_Cunha
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So for the episode "What About Bob," Terrence Mann is not on the cast list. Was his name just left on accidentally? Will he be in the show??? (please say yes!)
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So for the episode "What About Bob," Terrence Mann is not on the cast list. Was his name just left on accidentally? Will he be in the show??? (please say yes!)
I'm pretty sure Bob is in the Bob episode otherwise that title is VERY misleading. I've been looking forward to that one to see what happens with Justin.
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So for the episode "What About Bob," Terrence Mann is not on the cast list. Was his name just left on accidentally? Will he be in the show??? (please say yes!)
Bob's in every episode but STORM FRONT. And he's in the 2 hour STORM FRONT too. Kinda.
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I have a question. How big a headache do you have after plowing through all our whining after an episode? :D
I'd like to express my thanks that you do this at all. Very generous of the network and yourself to take the time. I know I really appreciate it.
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Branson, MO? Arkansas? Not to 'dis' anyone but....HAWAII...Fiji, um...Bora Bora? Someplace exotic and relaxing. That's a vacation.
I live on the west coast, so been to Hawaii several times. Right now I'm thinking Spain. Especially southern Spain.
Sigh. I always forget that you west coast people go to Hawaii the way we here in the midwest go to Florida. When my husband and I were on Maui we couldn't believe the number of 'family vacationers'. Our flight was eight hours!
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I always forget that you west coast people go to Hawaii the way we here in the midwest go to Florida.
I've lived on the West Coast since 1996 and have not once been to Hawai'i. Just thought I'd say so.
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Is there some mysterious reason for why Justin's surname is Morningway instead of DuMorne? It's been confusing the heck out of me.
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Is there some mysterious reason for why Justin's surname is Morningway instead of DuMorne? It's been confusing the heck out of me.
Yes, a very mysterious one...
:P
Its been mentioned somewhere before, and right after i clicked to tell you, I completely forgot why.
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I can only remember someone posing a possible link between Morningway and Lucifer.
Didn't Robert say it was because there were too many characters with "D" for a last name? Of course now there's three characters that can be referred to with "M" :P
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I can only remember someone posing a possible link between Morningway and Lucifer.
Didn't Robert say it was because there were too many characters with "D" for a last name? Of course now there's three characters that can be referred to with "M" :P
Apparently the scriptwriting software works a lot better if each initial corresponds to a single character. Since the letter M is already "shot to hell", one more M name isn't a problem.
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Robert, what are the chances of seeing a dvd release for this show?
Also who would be in charge of the release?
I ask because Eureka has yet to be released (nor has The Lost Room) and I was curious if this was a scifi Channel thing or had to do with the production company.
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Southern Spain is BEAUTIFUL... If you go, definately head to Granada (and if you do, can I send you a shopping list for me?) I lived their for 6 months, and am aching to go back, as soon as I can afford it.
and on topic...
1) So far, most of the eps have been "Dresden trusts or falls for a woman. This turns out to be a bad plan." Will this be consistant throughout the rest of the series?
2) I loved Harry's face first glide down the basement stairs in SF. How much of his own stuntwork does Paul do?
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2) I loved Harry's face first glide down the basement stairs in SF. How much of his own stuntwork does Paul do?
According to one interview I've heard, he does as little 'stunt' work as possible because it bothers his back.
Stitch
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Robert...So am I right in this...magic only screws with stuff when actually ACTIVE, rather than a general field of roll-the-dice around Harry? Or dead wrong?
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Or when he's upset or emotional. Or when the stuff is delicate and high tech. Note how he hovered back from the computer in Boone. Note that he still has a ton of candles around and cooks with gas (which is electronic free if you hand light the gas burner). Note that his lab is basicially entirely electricity free. And he uses a rotary phone. And he still drives the a relic of a car, too.
Interesting. That would make it like true psychokinesis (mind over matter). You see that with ghosts (or some psychics) when they cause batteries to quit working, or when people get pissed off and objects go flying or electrical equipment blows. I know if I'm angry, I make light bulbs blow. LOL. I had to keep a lot of candles around for awhile...
I like it. It fits.
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2) I loved Harry's face first glide down the basement stairs in SF. How much of his own stuntwork does Paul do?
According to one interview I've heard, he does as little 'stunt' work as possible because it bothers his back.
Paul does a fair amount of stuff, actually. He's happy to take hits and falls when possible. I think it's be more accurate to say Paul does as much stunt work as he can while still taking care of his back.
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As someone who occasionally suffers from a bad back, I can say that the last thing you want to do is put it out (lying in bed staring at the ceiling is really not very interesting). And the last thing a show needs is a leading man with a bad back.
I'm glad that Paul seems to know when enough is enough.
For holidays, I recommend Italy, around the Bay of Naples. I stayed in Sorrento a few years back and it was absolutely fabulous.
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Robert, I'm curious about something.
How does Murphy justify hiring Harry to her superiors? Most of the cases we've seen, Harry has not really provided anything of substance to the police; the bad guy ends up "disappearing" and things still go unsolved (such as Mr. Crispy's identity and who/how he was killed). The only person that has been arrested was Nancy.
Harry seems more of a liability to the police force than a boon, at this point - he is continually a suspect in crimes (Storm Front, Soul Beneficiary, Hair of the Dog), he's harassing witnesses and rich people while claiming to be a consultant of the police, and he's a freaking wizard being consulted by a cop. Doesn't this raise brows if not ire from Murphy's superiors?
In the books, Murphy operates SI, which Harry can specifically assist, such as giving info on how to fight trolls and sorcerers and the like. But since that doesn't exist in the Show, I don't really see what substantial benefit he is to the Chicago police force.
So, what does Harry offer to the police force, since he's not helping them solve cases? Is he doing things that we don't see that would assist Murphy and thus permit her to justify the expense of a consultant to the police?
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Branson, MO? Arkansas? Not to 'dis' anyone but....HAWAII...Fiji, um...Bora Bora? Someplace exotic and relaxing. That's a vacation.
I live on the west coast, so been to Hawaii several times. Right now I'm thinking Spain. Especially southern Spain.
God I hate you...
Can I come with you? Please?
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So, what does Harry offer to the police force, since he's not helping them solve cases? Is he doing things that we don't see that would assist Murphy and thus permit her to justify the expense of a consultant to the police?
I'm guessing he must help out a lot with simpler cases - simpler for him, anyway. When he was checking out the car in Walls, all three of them (Harry, Murphy, and Kirmani) acted like it was nothing unusual for Harry to be poking around a crime scene. Kirmani was snarky about it, of course, but I figure he's one of those folks who, when proved wrong, gets even more uncooperative. :) I like Kirmani. Lot more than I expected to.
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Robert, you could come back to Toronto for a holiday ;) Really, there are whole days when it's not pouring rain or freezing cold!
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Hey Robert,
Since Sci Fi just had their upfront party, any word on the Dresden Files? I just read some interviews on Chud.com regarding Battlestar Galactica, and they stated that both Paul and Terrence Mann were at the party, but no mention of a pick up? I hope so, that's for sure!
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How does Murphy justify hiring Harry to her superiors? SNIP So, what does Harry offer to the police force, since he's not helping them solve cases? Is he doing things that we don't see that would assist Murphy and thus permit her to justify the expense of a consultant to the police?
He got the skinner in BIRDS, more or less (gas explosion) and rescued a kidnapped boy. He helped them catch the rogue serial killing FBI agents in HAIR (1 dead, 1 arrested and in the rubber room). He got them a confession and an arrest in WALLS. Busted Nancy in SOUL. Uncovered Boone's co-conspirator in BOONE and showed that Miller murdered Boone. Found the killer in STORM FRONT too (though admittedly that's clearer in the 2 hour). Sure, he didn't get much in RULES, but Murphy wasn't his client that time anymore than she was in BLOOD. His track record is probably way better than your average phony psychic.
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Robert, you could come back to Toronto for a holiday ;) Really, there are whole days when it's not pouring rain or freezing cold!
As much as I like Toronto, I think I'll wait til Season Two to go back there. Assuming there is one. ;D
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Hey Robert,
Since Sci Fi just had their upfront party, any word on the Dresden Files? I just read some interviews on Chud.com regarding Battlestar Galactica, and they stated that both Paul and Terrence Mann were at the party, but no mention of a pick up? I hope so, that's for sure!
No word yet. We're hoping to hear something in the next month or two but it may not be until early summer once SciFi has gotten in their pilots and they're better able to plan out their slate.
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Hey Robert,
Since Sci Fi just had their upfront party, any word on the Dresden Files? I just read some interviews on Chud.com regarding Battlestar Galactica, and they stated that both Paul and Terrence Mann were at the party, but no mention of a pick up? I hope so, that's for sure!
No word yet. We're hoping to hear something in the next month or two but it may not be until early summer once SciFi has gotten in their pilots and they're better able to plan out their slate.
ARRRRRRRRGGGGHHHhhh!
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Spain is an excellent idea. Southern Spain sounds even better! Oddly enough I have a co-worker who is there currently :)
Any suggestions on how to help convince SF to continue Dresden? Thanks for the great job you do. I enjoy :)
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Now that you've gone through most of the series and you've seen the reactions, in your opinion what makes a good Dresden episode? What makes a good episode for any series in general?
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As I understand it, as per previous post replies ,we won't hear official news on a new season for a couple of months, ok. My question is then, when can we expect the first season out on DVD. I haven't seen it come up yet in topic and was wondering, and can't wait to see the episodes in better quaility as I watch them at Scifi.com.
P.S. I love the fact you can watch them on-line, by the way.
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Pretty happy so far. I'd love it if the rating were about 25% to 50% higher, but Sunday nights are tough sledding.
That was a question I had, is there anywhere us obsessive number types can keep up with the ratings? I have seen them occasionally for a given week, but I would love to know more. Especially how the series is doing without BSG right next to it, as I would suspect that is a factor the powers that be will take into consideration as to if DF can be an anchor show or if it would always be a bridesmaid to some other heavier hitter. I figured that since you were holding near BSG numbers on the weeks I saw things weren't horrible in ratings land.
Given my very limited play-time, is it really worth leveling my human mage up to 70? Or should I just transfer all her gold to my undead priest?
You'll always end up regretting mothballing an alt when you want to go back to it later ;) (70 dwarf warrior and 70 NE Hunter speaking here from experience...) Although I also have horde side alts on my server (PvE to double play the AH's against one another...) Also you mentioned being a geek for thinking CC meant Crowd Control. When you said that I immediately thought "But if Harry learned to sheep things it would pretty much be breaking one of the rules about transformation.. right?!?!?!" He should still be able to ice block things up though.
Now my more pressing question.
Any plans currently on getting around to the Wizard McCoy? And if so, any spoilers on how his relationship to Harry would be since it's reasonably obvious he didn't get to spend his formative years training under him in the series, as he did in the books?
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That was a question I had, is there anywhere us obsessive number types can keep up with the ratings? I have seen them occasionally for a given week, but I would love to know more. Especially how the series is doing without BSG right next to it, as I would suspect that is a factor the powers that be will take into consideration as to if DF can be an anchor show or if it would always be a bridesmaid to some other heavier hitter. I figured that since you were holding near BSG numbers on the weeks I saw things weren't horrible in ratings land.
I've been posting the ratings info as I get it on the SciFi Channel Scheduling and Info thread. Still waiting for some numbers for the first solo outing this past weekend.
Lee Whiteside
SFTV.org
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I've been posting the ratings info as I get it on the SciFi Channel Scheduling and Info thread. Still waiting for some numbers for the first solo outing this past weekend.
Lee Whiteside
SFTV.org
That, as I alluded to, is also exactly what I'm curious about. I also read your longer and older post about SciFi's programming strategy. I wonder if they'd ever consider a night of Eureka/Dresden with DLM lead in and no wrestling to be seen.
I like wrestling from time to time, I like SciFi's programming.. But they are not two great tastes that, in my humble opinion, don't go great together.
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I've been posting the ratings info as I get it on the SciFi Channel Scheduling and Info thread. Still waiting for some numbers for the first solo outing this past weekend.
Lee Whiteside
SFTV.org
Not to gall Lee's kibe*, but I'm just the overly helpful type. :) The thread he mentions is here (http://www.jim-butcher.com/bb/index.php/topic,293.0.html). BTW, Lee, I don't think I've said it in a while - THANK YOU for keeping us up-to-date on those numbers. :)
*points if you get the reference
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Hey Robert.
I know that you guys may not be hearing if you're coming on for a second season until up to this summer. Even though nothing is gaurenteed, it's smart to plan ahead.
With that in mind, have you all ready begun stewing on ideas for Season 2? Do you have anything written? And if you do, can you give us hints? Any returning characters (beyond the obvious)? Any characters from the book you want to bring in for Season 2?
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Hey Robert.
I know that you guys may not be hearing if you're coming on for a second season until up to this summer. Even though nothing is gaurenteed, it's smart to plan ahead.
With that in mind, have you all ready begun stewing on ideas for Season 2? Do you have anything written? And if you do, can you give us hints? Any returning characters (beyond the obvious)? Any characters from the book you want to bring in for Season 2?
Honestly? I need to pay my mortgage so I've taken a short term gig on another show ("The 4400"). My days are entirely consumed with thinking about who the hell Isabelle is and what Jordan Collier wants and what's up with Kyle Baldwin. My last bit of DRESDEN FILES work for this season will be wrapped up Monday morning.
Fear not, though. My contract with 4400 expires right around when I figure we'll know one way or another if DRESDEN is getting a renewal. Fingers crossed. And David and I did talk a little about things we'd like to do next year. So it wouldn't take us long to gear back up.
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Robert, it's REALLY nice of you to keep coming 'round here to answer our questions when you're working on something else!
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Honestly? I need to pay my mortgage so I've taken a short term gig on another show ("The 4400"). My days are entirely consumed with thinking about who the hell Isabelle is and what Jordan Collier wants and what's up with Kyle Baldwin.
Excellent, I was already looking forward to the upcoming 4th season of that show. I tend to keep an eye out for you former DS9 guys' names showing up attached to new shows, it's been a good indicator that I'll like it. :)
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Excellent, I was already looking forward to the upcoming 4th season of that show. I tend to keep an eye out for you former DS9 guys' names showing up attached to new shows, it's been a good indicator that I'll like it. :)
It's strange.. I have been trying to get my wife into the TV series the same way she took 2 years to get me to read the first of the novels. I mentioned "Well, Robert Wolfe is the executive producer, the guy who did all that DS9 stuff". And her one question was to hike up an eye brow at me and ask "The early episodes or the later ones???"
But apparently she's a fan of all the later stuff in the series, so all is good.
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FROM: S1-11: Things that Go Bump Thread:
I checked the credits when I watched this episode again last night and the screenwriter credit went to our friend, Robert Hewett Wolfe. I just have to say that every episode that I have really liked has been written by Robert. I personally wish he could do them all!
Hm. Lets look at this. Like it or hate it in terms of continuity, you have to admit that "Storm Front" was more true to the books than many of the other episodes, and Robert Hewitt Wolfe would have spent extra time on it to sell it as a concept for a series. More time means more direct input. Then we look at "Things that Go Bump," which Robert wrote. Wonderful writing. Great moments. Chock full of classic Harry lines. Very true to the book characters. I'd say Robert not only understands how to produce a good show (and it a terrific writer) but has one heck of a good take on the Dresden universe. I for one, am deeply grateful that he took this project on. Coming on the forum and answering our questions is just icing on the cake. I know how busy he is, but I really hope he doesn't get so caught up in other things that he can't write more episodes. He's GOOD at it.
I see a lot of nit-picking on various threads and complaints about advertising (much needed dollars for a show - I'm glad when ANYONE wants to pay good money, supporting the show, to be seen during the commercial break). Sometimes I feel people have lost sight of the bigger picture. The simple truth is that we owe Robert and his lead stars (Paul Blackthorne and Terrance Mann) our heartfelt gratitude for bringing Butcher's delightful characters even further to life, and in doing it so very well despite the constraints they fight against in terms of time/money/corporate politics. They do a fantastic job.
So, to Robert, Paul, Terrance, and all the others who work on this show and do their best to make it a good one:
THANK YOU!!
THANK YOU!!!!
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Your efforts are appreciated.
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Sometimes I feel people have lost sight of the bigger picture. The simple truth is that we owe Robert and his lead stars (Paul Blackthorne and Terrance Mann) our heartfelt gratitude for bringing Butcher's delightful characters even further to life, and in doing it so very well despite the constraints they fight against in terms of time/money/corporate politics. They do a fantastic job.
So, to Robert, Paul, Terrance, and all the others who work on this show and do their best to make it a good one:
THANK YOU!!
THANK YOU!!!!
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Your efforts are appreciated.
What she said. :D I for one haven't lost sight of that bigger picture, and I sincerely apologize if I ever sound like I have. I have the utmost respect and admiration for Paul*, Terrence, Robert, Valerie, and everyone else involved with the production. Thanks for all you do!
*(yes, even at my worst "fangirl," I respect the hell out of Paul - he's too talented not to respect him.)
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Hey Mr. Wolfe. First thanks for taking the time to answer questions and for getting involved with the series. It is because of you and all the others involved in it that I became a fan of the books.
I was just curious, how does digital distribution (ala iTunes, or streaming from the scifi site) effect ratings and financing? I do not have SciFi so the only way that I can watch the Dresden Files is by downloading them thru iTunes (I believe in paying for content dammit).
I ask because every Monday on Scifi.com/scifiwire they show the weekly ratings for their shows.
Hope you get to do a second season, will keep fingers crossed.
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Robert,
I don't intentionally want to raise your blood pressure...but....er
Have you see the latest SciFi Magazine issue (June) ? It has Spidey on the cover.
TDF gets some PR as it should in the TV section along with many others. SciFi Mag supporting their own networks' show makes sense from a business and readership pov. Cool.
No problem with that.
However, due to a lag in the production schedule ( One hopes ) the showtime for TDF was wrong. The article centers upon the season finale and then proceeds to detail items from the "What About Bob?" epsiode which all of us have already seen - stating that this Bob ep is the season finale. WTF!
My apologies if this is old news to you. Probably is. As a fan of the show and the magazine I couldn't help but think WTF !! Glad I am not in charge of PR planning for the show I gotta say. Ouch.
Please keep up the good work though Robert, et al.
Love the show. Fingers crossed for a stunning season two.
-Steve
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I saw an older episode list where "What About Bob?" was in fact the season finale, so it's entirely possible if this was true, that the mag went to press on this basis (probably a month or two ago).
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When is the 2 hour stormfront going to be shown????
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I was just curious, how does digital distribution (ala iTunes, or streaming from the scifi site) effect ratings and financing? I do not have SciFi so the only way that I can watch the Dresden Files is by downloading them thru iTunes (I believe in paying for content dammit).
No clue, but I'm sure high iTunes sales don't hurt the cause.
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When is the 2 hour stormfront going to be shown????
That'd be on my list of things I have no clue about as well. Summer?
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This hit me last night. I recently got HDTV at my home, and upgraded the DTV setup to accommodate that fact. Among the channels you get with the HD package is Universal HD, which is shows from the Universal line up. Ones I have notably caught were re-runs of Enterprise, and an episode of BSG, and an episode of SG:Atlantis.
I was wondering, was the series filmed in such a way that an HD rendition would be possible? What ratio was it actually filmed in? Things like that? I'm curious because whereas I havent bought into either of the HD formats for discs (HD-DVD v. Blu Ray), I would love to see the series in HD.
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I would love to see the series in HD.
They have been showing the series on Sky HD in the UK concurrent with the show's airing on Sky One. That would indicate they have an HD version of the show availalable.
Lee Whiteside
SFTV.org
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That'd be on my list of things I have no clue about as well. Summer?
Thanks, please us know as soon as you hear something. By the way have you heard anything about the DVD???
Please, before you submit a question, take a moment to browse through the past few pages of entries to see if it has already been answered. Robert addressed your question ten days ago (http://www.jim-butcher.com/bb/index.php/topic,679.msg57796.html#msg57796). Have some respect for Robert's busy schedule. I'm sure the information will be widely repeated here and on the SciFi channel website as soon as it is made public. --Priscilla
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Robert, if you see this, I want to add my voice to say thank you so much for what you, Paul, Terrence, Valerie and all the people behind the scenes for the great episodes you did produce, for getting me into a new fandom, reading all 9 books, and everything. I so very fervently hope we get a 2nd season, and that we get to see more of Harry Dresden's world. Which I have grown to love. Good luck on 4400, and I so very much hope you will be coming back. I have written my letters, online and postal, and done what I could. I send love to all of you. And hope that sign on Harry's door won't be prophetic.
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This hit me last night. I recently got HDTV at my home, and upgraded the DTV setup to accommodate that fact. Among the channels you get with the HD package is Universal HD, which is shows from the Universal line up. Ones I have notably caught were re-runs of Enterprise, and an episode of BSG, and an episode of SG:Atlantis.
I was wondering, was the series filmed in such a way that an HD rendition would be possible? What ratio was it actually filmed in? Things like that? I'm curious because whereas I havent bought into either of the HD formats for discs (HD-DVD v. Blu Ray), I would love to see the series in HD.
TDF was shot in super 16 then transferred to digital for post. We have a 16:9 aspect ratio, so we're very much HD friendly. you may see a bit of grain in certain situations, but that's part of our charm. =P
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Robert, if you see this, I want to add my voice to say thank you so much for what you, Paul, Terrence, Valerie and all the people behind the scenes for the great episodes you did produce, for getting me into a new fandom, reading all 9 books, and everything. I so very fervently hope we get a 2nd season, and that we get to see more of Harry Dresden's world. Which I have grown to love. Good luck on 4400, and I so very much hope you will be coming back. I have written my letters, online and postal, and done what I could. I send love to all of you. And hope that sign on Harry's door won't be prophetic.
Thanks for the kind words and the positive thoughts! And that goes for everyone who's posted nice things here.
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TDF was shot in super 16 then transferred to digital for post. We have a 16:9 aspect ratio, so we're very much HD friendly. you may see a bit of grain in certain situations, but that's part of our charm. =P
As someone who has been lucky enough to see samples of the HD version as aired by SkyOneHD in the UK, I'd say it scales up very nicely. Any grain that might be noticeable on occasion is no big deal. A lot of shows add that 'gritty' appearance on purpose. ;D
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Returning to the issue of the series hewing to the novels was it just me or did anyone else get a distinct feeling that Second city bore an striking resemblence to "Fool Moon"? I mean instead of the wold belts you had the branding iron but the theme was much the same and the BI was a gift given to a cop by someone else...
Either way, I loved the ep and in fact, with only one exception, the entire first season...I didn't much care for Bad blood because it didn't have murphy in it. For some reason, this series really works with all three leads involved..nice chemistry between Mr. BlackStone and Ms. Cruz and nice chemistry between Mr. Blackstone and Mr. Mann (Who, IMHO steals every scene he's in.) Fabulous work on the part of all three.
tud
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Yet another question about Bob...
Can he go invisible? I know he hides whenever there's company that isn't supposed to know of proof of the supernatural or he'll go back through the wall to the lab or into his skull but Harry had him spy for him in Things that go bump and I'd like to know how he managed that without the Wardens spotting him peeking through a wall.
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If he could go invisible, why would he keep needing to go into another room when people come visiting?
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If he could go invisible, why would he keep needing to go into another room when people come visiting?
That's why I'm asking. How exactly did he sply without anyone noticing?
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Ok, wait. Since episode 8 was basically the plot of Storm Front, does this mean we won't be getting a two hour movie?
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That's why I'm asking. How exactly did he sply without anyone noticing?
Come up out of the floor just to eye level under a piece of furniture.
Look down out of the ceiling.
If his shape-assuming power works on inanimate objects, pretend to be a floor lamp :)
Also, he cold have Harry sculpt a bust of him, then just occupy it as needed.
OK, now I'm being silly. My bad.
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Also, he cold have Harry sculpt a bust of him, then just occupy it as needed.
OK, now I'm being silly. My bad.
You've spent far too much time in Disney World.
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If his shape-assuming power works on inanimate objects, pretend to be a floor lamp :)
Since he can change to look like someone else at will, this could be a perfectly reasonable explanation providing, of course, that he can do furniture ;)
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It's only been 2 weeks without Harry and Bob on Sunday nights, but it seems like a lot longer than that.
I just wanted to add my belated thanks to Robert and crew for a great show. Hopefully we'll hear soon that we'll get more.
Yes, it was different from the books but I really enjoyed your interpretation.
You done good!
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I think I shall forced to watch them all again soon. Forced, I tell ya!
;)
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I kind of use them like an after dinner or pre bedtime drink to wind down :D
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I kind of use them like an after dinner or pre bedtime drink to wind down :D
I've reached a point in repeated viewings that certain episodes I find actually soothing to have on in the background while I do other things.
Cleaning the house? "Soul Beneficiary" will keep me company.
Reading a book? "Things That Go Bump" is better than my music cds.
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I kind of use them like an after dinner or pre bedtime drink to wind down :D
I quite regularly set the Sleep Timer on my TV, cue up a TDF ep, lie down, and fall asleep to Harry's voice. :)
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Oh man. We will be in a very sorry state if it isn't renewed. On the other hand, I am most gratified I am not the only person to do this stuff :D
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Robert - or anyone in the know more than me - any news on the 2 hour Storm Front AND if it will be on the dvd set?? Also any clue as to when the dvd set will be released...I've got cashy money to set forth for it.
Shelley
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Any info or rumors on whether there will be another season?
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Any info or rumors on whether there will be another season?
This is a test. This is only a test.
*BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP*
This has been a test of the Emergency Season 2 Broadcast System. Had there been actual news, you would have heard one of two sounds:
The Cheer Heard 'Round the World: signal to be used in case of renewal.
The Wailing Heard as far as Beetlegeuse: alarm signalling the end of civilization as we know it.
*BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP*
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Add my 'amen' to ButMadNNW. Let me be clear, Jim has created truly wonderfull books & I'm as addicted as a human can get, BUT, Paul Blackthorne! Yummy, yummy,and did I mention yummy? Falling asleep to his voice... I am sooooo envious.
I'm unfamiliar with YouTube so I'll have to wait for the DVDs.
(sigh)
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This is a test. This is only a test.
*BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP*
This has been a test of the Emergency Season 2 Broadcast System. Had there been actual news, you would have heard one of two sounds:
The Cheer Heard 'Round the World: signal to be used in case of renewal.
The Wailing Heard as far as Beetlegeuse: alarm signalling the end of civilization as we know it.
*BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP*
Heh.
No news. I'll post here when I hear one way or the other.
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I posted this in the other non-spiler thread but maybe it got overlooked...
Robert, I have a bit of a Super-Geek question for you in relation to a Wikipedia debate on this matter:
Is the "Episode ID" that is listed in iTunes the correct Production Code for each episode?
Airdate: Title (Production Code)
1/21: Birds of a Feather (103)
1/28: The Boone Identity (104)
2/11: Hair of the Dog (105)
2/18: Rules of Engagement (102)
2/25: Bad Blood (107)
3/04: Soul Beneficiary (108)
3/11: Walls (106)
3/18: Storm Front (101)
3/25: The Other Dick (110)
4/01: What About Bob? (109)
4/08: Things That Go Bump (111)
4/15: Second City (112)
I'd like to preserve this data but it is being questioned.
Thanks,
John
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Heh.
No news. I'll post here when I hear one way or the other.
It's really cool that you still check in on the forum. I'm choosing to take that as proof that there's still hope for DF, despite the lack of news! :)
Two questions, though: Have you heard whether our efforts in e-mailing, letter-writing, and petioning having actually reached the people we're trying to reach?
And if they HAVE, are they having any effect?
Thanks again for such an excellent show & for taking part on the forum! :)
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I posted this in the other non-spiler thread but maybe it got overlooked...
Robert, I have a bit of a Super-Geek question for you in relation to a Wikipedia debate on this matter:
Is the "Episode ID" that is listed in iTunes the correct Production Code for each episode?
Airdate: Title (Production Code)
1/21: Birds of a Feather (103)
1/28: The Boone Identity (104)
2/11: Hair of the Dog (105)
2/18: Rules of Engagement (102)
2/25: Bad Blood (107)
3/04: Soul Beneficiary (108)
3/11: Walls (106)
3/18: Storm Front (101)
3/25: The Other Dick (110)
4/01: What About Bob? (109)
4/08: Things That Go Bump (111)
4/15: Second City (112)
I'd like to preserve this data but it is being questioned.
Thanks,
John
Yeah, that looks right.
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Mr. Robert sir, you mentioned on the little post about the DVD info that you had recorded commentaries for two of the episodes...do you have any say in bonus features and whatnot? Or are you even in the loop for that? If so on either count, do you happen to know if EVERY episode is going to get a commentary track of some sort (be it you on this episode, Paul on this one, etc.) or is it going to be like the Season 1 Buffy DVDs (which put me off buying TV DVDs for a year or so) where only 4 of the 12 episodes have commentaries?
I really hate to say it, but I buy DVD boxed sets for the extras, not for the show/movie itself. I have a DVR with a pretty good capacity for re-watching the shows themselves if I really wanted to, so the first thing I do when I pick up a DVD is read what extras are on it. If there's no commentary tracks, I put it back. That's why I didn't get The Maltese Falcon until this past year because the previous edition had no commentary tracks. Extras sell DVDs in my opinion.
That being said, I WILL be buying The Dresden Files even if I only get the two commentaries. I love the show and I can't bear knowing there's something Dresden in existence that I don't own :p
The Abstruse One
Darryl Mott Jr.
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Mr. Robert sir, you mentioned on the little post about the DVD info that you had recorded commentaries for two of the episodes...do you have any say in bonus features and whatnot? Or are you even in the loop for that? If so on either count, do you happen to know if EVERY episode is going to get a commentary track of some sort (be it you on this episode, Paul on this one, etc.) or is it going to be like the Season 1 Buffy DVDs (which put me off buying TV DVDs for a year or so) where only 4 of the 12 episodes have commentaries?
I really hate to say it, but I buy DVD boxed sets for the extras, not for the show/movie itself. I have a DVR with a pretty good capacity for re-watching the shows themselves if I really wanted to, so the first thing I do when I pick up a DVD is read what extras are on it. If there's no commentary tracks, I put it back. That's why I didn't get The Maltese Falcon until this past year because the previous edition had no commentary tracks. Extras sell DVDs in my opinion.
That being said, I WILL be buying The Dresden Files even if I only get the two commentaries. I love the show and I can't bear knowing there's something Dresden in existence that I don't own :p
The Abstruse One
Darryl Mott Jr.
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=7335
I'm more happy to see the two hour Storm Front pilot included on the dvd.
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Wait...3 DVDs? That can't be right...that's 6 eps a disk, plus pilot and docs, plus commentaries. The compression algorithms for that would give very poor image quality. 3-4 eps a disc is needed. So that would be three discs for the episodes alone, plus a bonus features disk.
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Wait...3 DVDs? That can't be right...that's 6 eps a disk, plus pilot and docs, plus commentaries. The compression algorithms for that would give very poor image quality. 3-4 eps a disc is needed. So that would be three discs for the episodes alone, plus a bonus features disk.
Well, they might put them out as double-sided DVDs. Same as the House DVDs and they fit a 22-ep season on 3 DVDs. So that makes me think 2 disks for the eps, one for the extras. Something like that.
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Well, they might put them out as double-sided DVDs. Same as the House DVDs and they fit a 22-ep season on 3 DVDs. So that makes me think 2 disks for the eps, one for the extras. Something like that.
Gawd, I hope not. Double-sided discs make me nervous - twice as much surface area to scratch up and kill your discs.
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I really hope it isn't Sony's new format because then I couldn't play the discs. We have a projector system hooked up to computer and our dvd player *hates* the Sony format. At least I'm not alone, Netflix says numerous customers have the same problem I do. The studios have gotten so paranoid that they're losing revenue. *sighs*
-RinA
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I really hope it isn't Sony's new format because then I couldn't play the discs. We have a projector system hooked up to computer and our dvd player *hates* the Sony format. At least I'm not alone, Netflix says numerous customers have the same problem I do. The studios have gotten so paranoid that they're losing revenue. *sighs*
-RinA
I don't think Sony's making the Dresden Files DVD's. Pretty sure it's Lionsgate. They're the ones that make the show, and the press release about the DVD's came from them.
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Wait...3 DVDs? That can't be right...that's 6 eps a disk, plus pilot and docs, plus commentaries. The compression algorithms for that would give very poor image quality. 3-4 eps a disc is needed. So that would be three discs for the episodes alone, plus a bonus features disk.
I'd thought about that, too. They say it's 530 minutes, too, which makes me wonder whether there will truly be the 2 hour pilot, as there's barely enough room for 12 episodes in that time frame....
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I really hope it isn't Sony's new format because then I couldn't play the discs. We have a projector system hooked up to computer and our dvd player *hates* the Sony format. At least I'm not alone, Netflix says numerous customers have the same problem I do. The studios have gotten so paranoid that they're losing revenue. *sighs*
Are you talking about Blue Ray discs? If so then it has nothing to do with paranoia and everything to do with fitting more on a single disc. Also, these aren't meant to work in standard DVD players. Everyone will need a new player to use next generation media.
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I'd thought about that, too. They say it's 530 minutes, too, which makes me wonder whether their will truly be the 2 hour pilot, as there's barely enough room for 12 episodes in that time frame....
Perhaps the 530 is reference to the standard episodes only?
The Dark Shadows (1991) DVD set is 3 dvds containing approximately 600 minutes worth of episodes, no extras beyond that though.
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The 530 is for the eps only, and does not include the extras....of which the 2hr pilot is considered.
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No, I didn't mean either of the new compression formats. I mean the DRM (digital rights management) that Sony has been putting on all the disks they make. It won't play on our DVD player at all. Liongate is the studio, I don't know if they press their own disks or not. Quite a few studios use Sony to make their DVD's and those are the ones that I can't view. So, I have to wait for Dresden Files to come out and read the back label... which means I can't preorder. I'm not sure how much preorders of Season 1 are weighting the decision on Season 2. I hope not much.
-Rina
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Wow, I thought it just meant that you couldn't copy the DVD. That would sure put a crimp in my viewing plans.
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No, I didn't mean either of the new compression formats. I mean the DRM (digital rights management) that Sony has been putting on all the disks they make. It won't play on our DVD player at all. Liongate is the studio, I don't know if they press their own disks or not. Quite a few studios use Sony to make their DVD's and those are the ones that I can't view. So, I have to wait for Dresden Files to come out and read the back label... which means I can't preorder. I'm not sure how much preorders of Season 1 are weighting the decision on Season 2. I hope not much.
-Rina
If that's the case then Sony worked to fix that issue back in April. There may be old stock of certain movies that still have the problem though (and Sony was offering replacements) but new discs should be unaffected. I haven't heard anyone complaining of late, anyway.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070418-sony-to-replace-incompatible-dvds.html
Also, as far as we know, SFC makes absolutely no money off the DVD sets so they probably aren't concerned with them at all.
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Wow, I thought it just meant that you couldn't copy the DVD. That would sure put a crimp in my viewing plans.
It was intended to simply block copying. DRM, however...and especially Sony and Macrovision....are a little overzealous and tend to fubar some disks on some players.
Big, big stink, lots of bad PR...which sucks, because Sony normally makes fantastic products. They just keep shooting themselves in the feet.
S2 decision has nada to do with pre-orders.
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My opinion about DRM- the harder you make something to copy, the more determined folks are to do it. I respect the rights of people who create, but one day, I hope there can be something better done to protect creative works.
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WHEN (not "if") The Dresden Files is renewed for it's second season, are we going to see wonderfully talented Claudia Black in at least 5 episodes arc?