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Title: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on December 30, 2009, 09:09:18 PM
A woeful revelation to anyone who wants to make little baby Blackthornes...

ROFL that is wrong :P
But yes... I see him as Harry in my mind. It's been burned there for the meanwhile. If I close my eyes I see him as Harry like you see an afterimage after a flash on a camera. :P



Edit:  The first half of this thread can be found here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,817.0.html)! --Priscellie
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on January 01, 2010, 11:09:30 AM
It's been said several times already, so I'll just throw my vote into the pile and say that I believe that Butters should be played by Zack Gallaphinacas.  The more he ages, the more he becomes Butters to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 01, 2010, 01:28:10 PM
I have always pictured Butters as a Gene Kelly sort...
(http://static.paulsmith.co.uk/images/width730/genekelly-14247.jpg)
Not so much helmet haired, of course.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 02, 2010, 11:48:13 PM
everyone has their own opinion, please dont eat me  :o
Quote
Well almost, while I have my opinion I look forward to any opposition that can give me solid reasoning for it. As far as the thread's name sake, we will just have to agree to disagree on anyone that does not at least get the essence and most physical aspects of the book version right. The actor for Harry doesn't have to be 6'9 (camera angles and editing can make that happen anyway.) but, Morgan is Norse-like...


.

I really dont think Paul Blackthorne could fit the role, it just doesnt click in my head. they dont have to be 6'9", but at least 6'1" or 6'2" i would think. ive thrown some out there, i still think that Josh Hartnett, or Jared Padaleki , or Sam Worthington would be a good Harry. And yea, thats exactly what i thought of him as in my head. norse. definitely norse.





eh.....is not workin, sorry its all in a quote box O.o



Edit:  Fixed!  --Priscilla
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 03, 2010, 02:22:31 AM
up till today I really didn't see Nathan F as Harry but now I can almost see him doing it.
He does fit the snark factor. :D And he has the look and attitude.

Helps I was rewatching that fake Dr Horrible Emmy broadcast again. He was just so funny in it and I really didn't like him much before but he's growing on me.  ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on January 03, 2010, 05:26:12 AM
how about Vin Diesel (with hair) as Kincaid
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 06, 2010, 01:00:37 AM
you know, i almost think that could work.....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: FlaggerX on January 09, 2010, 01:33:34 AM
Okay, I cast the movie and assuming I could get these people for an affordable price

Harry-  that's toughest really, because you need a really strong actor who's tall and rangy,  a younger Peter  Coyote mabye   but I'd choose Eric Bana or maybe Christian Bale

Murphy-  she'd be a little voluptuous but I really like Christina Ricci in that role, short, and does badassed very well with a bit of sweetness. 

Thomas-- Brad Pitt.  No contest here.
Morgan-- Alan Rickman    You need menace.  the problem is that before Turn Coat Morgan has few dimensions.
Lara Raith-- Nicole Kidman
Susan-- Rosario Dawson
Bob -- (voiced by John Goodman)
Butters-- Steve Buscemi or a young Wallace Shawn. Okay he's too old but what about Paul Reubens, who might be gettable.
Michael--  he's particularly tough because the actor must pull off Dudley Do-right without going over the top. He needs to  be underplayed.  Steve McQueen would have been perfect but he's too dead for the role.  okay, I'll go for Russell Crowe, who's versatile enough.  Or Gary Oldman.

Nicodemus -- Christoph Waltz--- have you seen inglorious basterds?   
Duke Ortega--  Benecio del Toro
Kincaid --  George Clooney
Queen Mab-- Lena Olin
Aurora-- Scarlett Johansson
Maeve-- Thora Birch (Christina Ricci being taken)
Madrigal Raith -- John Cusack
That's enough for now.




Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 09, 2010, 01:34:57 AM
I saw this guy on Chuck and thought "OMG, it's Thomas" :D

http://www.ohlalaparis.com/photos/uncategorized/matthewbomer02120601.jpg

He sort of has alot of crazy eye looks in some of the pics so I thought "well that could work if he does Thomas hungry" ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on January 09, 2010, 02:17:17 AM
Tommy Lee Jones as Eb. (has that been said already?)
Paterson Joseph as Sanya. I don't know how his Russian accent is, but he's a Shakespearean actor, and he also did the narration on National Geographic Wild Russia.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mabb on January 09, 2010, 04:53:03 AM
Sorry, I have to vote against Jared Padaleki.  He played Thomas Kinkaid (the "Painter of Light") in a Hall-mark style movie over Christmas.  Kind of ruined him as a tough guy--or even tough-ish guy for me.  I'll never be able to imagine him without a paintbrush in his hand ever again....Try to see him with a wand---and have the wand morph into a brush...nope...just does not work for me....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on January 11, 2010, 09:43:39 PM
Someone suggested Christopher Waltz as Nicodemus. I agree with this.

I also re watched the LOTR trilogy over the holidays and I am now of the opinion that Karl Urban needs to play Michael... thoughts on this, anyone?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 13, 2010, 02:31:16 AM
hmmm, that could work. i like karl urban. good actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: txbobfan on January 13, 2010, 08:02:17 PM
I'm new here...and only just started my 3rd Butcher book (Grave Peril) and I can't seem to get away from picturing in my mind Jim Butcher as Harry. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on January 13, 2010, 08:11:35 PM
THANK YOU! I do that too!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 13, 2010, 10:11:46 PM
I'm new here...and only just started my 3rd Butcher book (Grave Peril) and I can't seem to get away from picturing in my mind Jim Butcher as Harry. 

I think it's the sweats and tees. I always see Jim in those and Harry's described as wearing those alot so I go "hmmm..."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 14, 2010, 03:06:01 AM
i actually imagined Jim as a Butters type character. or Mike the mechanic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on January 14, 2010, 05:12:13 AM
Apparently you haven't seen his author photo yet.  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on January 14, 2010, 11:32:33 AM
i actually imagined Jim as a Butters type character. or Mike the mechanic.

He was one of the lab guys in a white coat in one of the episodes of the TV show.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Big-Puff on January 14, 2010, 09:17:12 PM
Harry   -  Daniel Cudmore 
Murphy - Eliza Dushku/Sarah Michelle Gellar/Kristen Bell
Bob      - Jeff Goldblum/Brad Garrett
Thomas - Keanu Reeves/David Boreanaz/Hugh Jackman
Susan   - Marjean Holden/Noémie Lenoir
Molly    - Leelee Sobieski/Doutzen Kroes/Tamsin Egerton

Wardens
Morgan   - Dolph Lundgren/Tyler Mane
Luccio   - Angelina Jolie
Ramirez  - Jesse Metcalfe

Hoods
Marcone  - Victor Garber
Hendrex  - John DeSantis
Gard     - Mariel Hemingway/Lucy Lawless

Knights of the Cross
Michael  - Rory McCann
Charity  - Rebecca Romijn/Geena Davis
Sanya    - Tony Todd/Will Smith/Alex English
Shiro    - Jackie Chan/Jet Li/Yuen Biao

Nevernever
Lea      - Brooke Shields/Nicole Kidman/Elle Macpherson
Mab      - Brenda Strong/Tilda Swinton
Tatania  - Courtney Cox/Kate Beckinsale/Demi Moore
Aurora   - Shaina Sandoval
Lilly    - Emma Watson/
Maeve    - Amanda Bynes/Kate Bosworth
Summer K - Zac Efron/Daniel Radcliffe/Shia LaBeouf 
Winter K - Eric Bana/Russel Crow/Ray Liotta
Mother S - Sigourney Weaver
Mother W - Meryl Streep


Vamps
Bianca   - Claire Stansfield/Kim Smith
Lara     - Rachel Nichols/Jordana Brewster

Nicodemus- James Marsters/Brian Steele/Nigel Bennett
Kincaid  - Kevin Durand/Ralf Moeller
Ivy      - Dakota Fanning/

White Counsel
Ebeneza  - Gerald McRaney/Bruce Willis
Rashid   - Carel Struycken
Merlin   - Powers Boothe
LTW      - Nathan Lee/Eric Schweig/Ray Tracey
Mai    - Gong Li/Michelle Yeoh/Ming-Na/LUCY LIU

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 14, 2010, 11:31:17 PM
even tho uve got it all lined out, dont really like most of the choices. specially Daniel Cudmore. but tis watev
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 15, 2010, 07:58:05 AM
I think this guy could pull off "Nicodemas"
http://onlinepresence-media.com/ultimate-fansites.com/ddl/images/misc/derekbw.jpg

He was on the show Poltergeist: The Legacy. He fits the stereo type of Nic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CHAR2056 on January 15, 2010, 02:46:32 PM
I think Aldis Hodge would be a good Sanya.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm372344832/nm0388038
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 15, 2010, 11:05:54 PM
(http://www.flickpeek.com/images/actors/pic_111975.jpg)(http://www.gabrielmovie.com/gallery2/Dwaine-Stevenson_5.jpg)

This guy, Dwaine Stevenson, has a good look.  Im thinking Kincaid. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 16, 2010, 06:24:53 AM
Stop the presses!

I was watching Skating and saw this young man up close and he would make a terrific Harry Dresden!  He looks young in these pix, and well he is young, but Harry is aging slowly, right?
(http://www.ifsmagazine.com/archive/2007/JUNE/1.jpg)  (http://www.dispatch.com/wwwexportcontent/sites/dispatch/images/may/LYSACEK_FS_2_-_04_18_2007_-.jpg_05-04-07_D6_KN6IC7N.jpg)(http://www.seventeen.com/cm/seventeen/images/evan-lysacek-75595146.jpg)
Evan Lysacek
tall lanky and able to run from chlorofiends.
he is 6' 2" and likes Coca-Cola.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on January 16, 2010, 06:39:51 AM
Great catch, Blaze! 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 16, 2010, 01:07:32 PM
Thanks, Priscellie!  I heard him interview and he has the voice too. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 16, 2010, 01:20:26 PM
If I were to cast a building / set for Harry's office from the books, I like the one I see in the old "Ray Bradbury Theatre" show intro. I was watching the dvd set of it I have and the more I saw the office setting and elevator in the intro, the more I thought of the scene from Storm Front. It just fits in my mind. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIxWOsvYInI
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 16, 2010, 01:32:43 PM
Not Selectric for Harry though, an Underwood.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on January 16, 2010, 07:09:16 PM
Great catch, Blaze! 

I completely agree! He's perfect!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 16, 2010, 09:05:07 PM
Aww, thanks MSD!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: logarithm.and.blues on January 16, 2010, 09:40:02 PM
What about the guy who played Paul Ballard in Dollhouse for Harry? Just putting it out there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: E_Aragon on January 17, 2010, 02:48:40 PM
Hi, everyone! I'm new to the board but I'm a long time fan and lurker.

I've always pictured Robert Forster as Marcone. If anyone's ever seen him in Heroes you'll get it.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001233/

For Ebenezer I pictured Jaws Richard Dreyfuss. I could really see him getting into this kind of role.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000377/

For Michael...don't laugh but I can really see Liev Schreiber playing Michael.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000630/

For Bob, I always pictured Craig Ferguson's voice. If you don't know who he is he's used to it.
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0272401/

Harry is a special case, but I think Nathan Fillion would be great. If anyone has seen him in Castle you'll understand why.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0277213/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on January 17, 2010, 06:56:33 PM
For Bob, I always pictured Craig Ferguson's voice. If you don't know who he is he's used to it.
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0272401/

thiiiiiiiissss, oh so much.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on January 17, 2010, 09:34:53 PM
For Michael...don't laugh but I can really see Liev Schreiber playing Michael.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000630/
I could see that.

For Bob, I always pictured Craig Ferguson's voice. If you don't know who he is he's used to it.
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0272401/
SUPER DISAGREE! Blech! Ptew! Gack! Craig Ferguson is annoying to me on a level that I previously thought impossible. I don't like the thought of Bob as a Scott either. It doesn't really cover Bob's accent in the books, but for some reason I feel like his accent changes based on his owner (in the same way his personality reflects his master.) I like Eugene Levy for v.o. Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: E_Aragon on January 17, 2010, 10:03:16 PM
Craig does have his moments but I can really picture him saying "Tear her dress off!". After being forced to have read his book American on Purpose it's kind of hard not to like him. Eugene Levy is pretty hilarious though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 18, 2010, 02:15:38 AM
i keep sayin it (or do i ?) Ryan Reynolds for the voice of bob. i would piss myself with laughter if half the stuff bob said came out of his mouth. hes just got the sarcasm.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 18, 2010, 06:21:43 AM
Ok... I like the guy who played Jack Sully in Avatar for Harry. At the beginning he had the hair and everything before they gave him the jarhead makeover.

And the evil old Marine guy for either Kincaid although he seems old then for Murphy so maybe as a hardened Marcone?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 18, 2010, 07:25:15 AM
Heres Some more people who might fit the roles :


Harry  :   

(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/SeanBlackstone/Dresden002.jpg)

Sam Worthington




i love quoting myself XD  yes, i think hed make a great harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 18, 2010, 08:33:54 PM
Ok... I like the guy who played Jack Sully in Avatar for Harry.

Bleah.  The Ben-Affleck-on-steroids look does not work for me at all.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: thelordbeans on January 18, 2010, 09:18:02 PM
Worthington =/= Harry

Since I just watched Sherlock...
Jude Law == Thomas?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 18, 2010, 10:12:55 PM
Jude Law is somewhat repellent to me; ergo I will never see him as Thomas.  Good actor, just gives me the willies.... heavens knows he wouldn't think much of me either if he saw me...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on January 18, 2010, 11:28:46 PM
I haven't seen Jude Law as human since I saw him in AI. And I don't think it was great acting, it's just... he doesn't look real.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on January 19, 2010, 12:26:51 AM
I always imagine flamboyant!overthetop!ghey Thomas as Russell Brand... any other time I don't really have a clear picture of him...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on January 19, 2010, 02:22:56 AM
I like my cracktheory that Thomas modeled his ridiculous French accent after Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 19, 2010, 02:37:02 AM
I like my cracktheory that Thomas modeled his ridiculous French accent after Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast.

I was suspecting that he had actually gone out and read some Anita Blake on a "how do vampires who have to live in the real world get on ?" research basis...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 19, 2010, 05:13:20 AM
I like my crack theory that Thomas modeled his ridiculous French accent after Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast.

This is full of yes.  Thomas does Jerry Orbach doing Lumiere.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 20, 2010, 08:17:56 AM
I sort of like Tom Sizemore for "Marcone"
http://www.dailyheadlineblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/tom-sizemore.jpg

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: E_Aragon on January 21, 2010, 12:15:18 AM
I always pictured Rawllings as Reginald VelJohnson. He was pretty good in Die Hard.
http://www.nndb.com/people/045/000108718/

My friend stood behind Vinnie Jones once in Starbucks and he said that Vinnie would be a perfect Cujo Hendricks
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005068/

Bryan Greenberg would seem like a good Vincent sarcastic and smart.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Greenberg
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: animals on January 21, 2010, 07:07:27 AM
I always pictured Rawllings as Reginald VelJohnson. He was pretty good in Die Hard.
http://www.nndb.com/people/045/000108718/

My friend stood behind Vinnie Jones once in Starbucks and he said that Vinnie would be a perfect Cujo Hendricks
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005068/

Bryan Greenberg would seem like a good Vincent sarcastic and smart.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Greenberg

Agree on all counts
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on January 22, 2010, 10:35:35 PM
I always pictured Rawllings as Reginald VelJohnson. He was pretty good in Die Hard.
http://www.nndb.com/people/045/000108718/

My friend stood behind Vinnie Jones once in Starbucks and he said that Vinnie would be a perfect Cujo Hendricks
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005068/

Bryan Greenberg would seem like a good Vincent sarcastic and smart.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Greenberg

I agree with Carl Winslow and Bryan Greenberg, but I feel like Vinnie Jones is a)Not thick enough (physically) and b)I don't think he can do an American accent.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 22, 2010, 10:47:41 PM
Look up this guy: David Chokachi (some images were NSFW)
OMG some of the pics under google... I want him playing Harry! *rrrowrrr!*

And this guy could make a good Senior Council person or maybe Nic: Tony Amendola
http://www.berkeleyrep.org/press/images/artists/Berkeley_Rep_Amendola_lr.jpg
He is a good F Murray Abraham look alike. I always mistake him for him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on January 23, 2010, 03:13:17 AM
Look up this guy: David Chokachi (some images were NSFW)
OMG some of the pics under google... I want him playing Harry! *rrrowrrr!*

And this guy could make a good Senior Council person or maybe Nic: Tony Amendola
http://www.berkeleyrep.org/press/images/artists/Berkeley_Rep_Amendola_lr.jpg
He is a good F Murray Abraham look alike. I always mistake him for him.

Didn't he play Salmon Rushdie on that episode of Seinfeld?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 23, 2010, 06:14:04 AM
Didn't he play Salmon Rushdie on that episode of Seinfeld?

Yeah that 2nd actor did... Tony A... he's the one I always think is a dead ringer for F Murray Abraham.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on January 23, 2010, 09:13:29 PM
A thought occurs...Patrick Warburton as Micheal.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 23, 2010, 11:58:31 PM
too comedic i think. hed make a good rawlings maybe.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on January 26, 2010, 11:14:31 AM
It took 2 seasons and the start of a third for me to be convinced, but now I am:  Adam Baldwin should play Mac.  He is very good at communicating a great deal of info via grunts.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on January 26, 2010, 12:38:42 PM
It took 2 seasons and the start of a third for me to be convinced, but now I am:  Adam Baldwin should play Mac.  He is very good at communicating a great deal of info via grunts.

Inspired!  I never would have thought of him.  The more I think about it, the more I like it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on January 26, 2010, 07:09:57 PM
I agree! That's a great idea!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Paynesgrey on January 27, 2010, 12:03:34 AM
He works... I pictured Mac a little older, but I can see Adam Baldwin doing the quiet man you don't want to annoy.  And he's got that "you're really being an idiot" non-expression down pat.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on January 27, 2010, 12:53:08 AM
The description of baldness keeps bringing me back to Jeff Bridges in his role for Iron Man.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on January 27, 2010, 01:33:35 AM
I like!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 27, 2010, 02:00:57 AM
...and because I cited Evan Lysacek as our Harry Dresden on Ice, I give you Johnny Weir as our Thomas on Ice:
(http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Festa+On+Ice+2009+QYI_vBa8g5Al.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 27, 2010, 02:05:58 AM
(http://z.about.com/d/figureskating/1/7/B/X/-/-/evanjohnny.jpg)
Thomas, Harry...  see? 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 27, 2010, 02:06:48 AM
(http://z.about.com/d/figureskating/1/7/B/X/-/-/evanjohnny.jpg)
Thomas, Harry...  see? 

*is trying not to laugh too loudly seeing shes' at work*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 27, 2010, 02:10:24 AM
the one on the right is a little TOO flamboyant for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 27, 2010, 04:17:13 AM
I still like the thief guy from White Collar for Thomas. *rrowrrr*!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on January 27, 2010, 04:25:04 AM
the one on the right is a little TOO flamboyant for me.

(click to show/hide)

Blaze, I agree for the Harry, but I don't think the Thomas is hot enough.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on January 27, 2010, 04:38:05 AM
Mark Sheppard as Binder.... :D it makes me happy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: E_Aragon on January 27, 2010, 11:47:30 AM
The great Ray Winstone would also be a good Binder in my opinion. Most people know him as the voice of Beowulf.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0935653/

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/25/article-1089235-0284730D000005DC-327_468x589.jpg)


I'm still going with Robert Forster as Marcone
(http://images.fearnet.com/fearnetImages/imwU8dALFFCDee35CPxrZ+SA==.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on January 27, 2010, 10:09:01 PM
Robert Foster is too obviously old. Marcone is supposed to look between 30 and 45.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on January 27, 2010, 11:13:28 PM
Ok, he can wait at my place until you change your mind....  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on January 27, 2010, 11:29:57 PM
Also I like Molly C Quinn as Lily.  I know she's only like 17 but she has that whole ethereal beauty going on.  Very Tolkien elvish in appearance.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: FlaggerX on January 28, 2010, 12:36:26 AM
Actually having recently seen The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus I think Lily Cole, who played  Parnassus daughter well capable of playing Lily.  Or any other person who needs to show both innocence and unearthly beauty.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 28, 2010, 09:29:44 AM
I still vote Matt Bomer for Thomas. He has the look, the acting skills and the steel blue eyes... *drools and swoons* http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=21&pos=38 Just looking at him makes me want to die and go to heaven...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 28, 2010, 01:42:38 PM
And Priscellie will thank you for it!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on January 28, 2010, 03:11:28 PM
I liked Matt Bomer for Thomas the moment I saw the first White Collar poster on a New York City bus.  When I saw the pilot, he *became* Thomas in my mind.  He had a sort of predatory charisma that felt pitch-perfect for our favourite vampire.  Said predatory charisma was toned down in subsequent episodes, but the pilot proved to me he could pull it off, both aesthetically and dramatically.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 28, 2010, 07:25:06 PM
and he has those crazy eyes as I call them... and he's a cute Texas boy ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 29, 2010, 03:31:58 AM
zOMG! if you didn't think Matt Bomer was Thomas before... think "Grave Peril" and look at this:
http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=10052&fullsize=1
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on January 29, 2010, 05:08:24 AM
I love you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 29, 2010, 06:39:46 AM
I saw that and could imagine him with those wings from Thomas' outfit and the sword :D
*giggle teehee giggle swoon*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on January 29, 2010, 11:13:44 AM
That's the problem with characters in literature who're hotter-than-hot.  They don't translate. 

Sure, Matt Bomer's good-looking, don't get me wrong. But he doesn't trip my trigger.  Thomas trips everyone's trigger, even some guys and not the gay ones.  Sure, a good portion of that is White Court allure, but still. 

It wouldn't matter who played Thomas, there'd be a sizeable chunk of the audience saying "Meh.  I don't see it."

I think for Thomas, you need to pick Harry first and then grab a guy who looks kinda the same but better-looking and dub him Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on January 29, 2010, 03:38:30 PM
hmm...though kali's point is well understood someone would need to be cast, and this Bomer guy is the best I have seen so far...

This coming from a straight male should carry some weight...or is that my ego?....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 29, 2010, 03:53:47 PM
hmm...though kali's point is well understood someone would need to be cast, and this Bomer guy is the best I have seen so far...

Malkovich, malkovich malkovich.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on January 29, 2010, 04:52:43 PM
I think Orlando Bloom would make a decent Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 29, 2010, 04:54:54 PM
I think Orlando Bloom would make a decent Thomas.

Nah; he's too much of a milksop.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: FlaggerX on January 29, 2010, 10:11:48 PM
Malkovich, malkovich malkovich.

I love John Malkovich but he's not handsome enough to play Thomas.  Nicodemus or Peabody, absolutely, though as the man really can act.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Paynesgrey on January 30, 2010, 01:13:04 AM
I love John Malkovich but he's not handsome enough to play Thomas.  Nicodemus or Peabody, absolutely, though as the man really can act.

He'd play either quite well.  Only problem is, he's usually a creepy scarey guy, so if he was playing Peabody, people immdediatley say "Aw, fuck.  That's John Malkovitch.  Peobody's got to be a villain."  Wonder who Gary Oldman would play best? 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: E_Aragon on February 01, 2010, 01:01:06 PM
Michael Fassbender for Thomas? He kicked ass in 300.

300 long haired Michael:

(http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/R/p/N/300pubc.jpg)


Regular black hair Michael:

(http://youngromantic.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/michael-fassbender.jpg)


Now picture Michael with long black hair.


paynesgrey  Gary Oldman? How about Nicodemus?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 02, 2010, 01:52:00 AM
can Zachary Levi fit in the Dresdenverse?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on February 02, 2010, 03:31:03 PM
If Butters were 6+ feet, yeah. :D Don't get me wrong - I thoroughly enjoy Chuck and Levi's job therein. But even his most slicked-up pub shots are still sorta milquetoast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 02, 2010, 04:08:21 PM
He can look pretty butch, actually, but even with scruff and in ratty clothes he just looks YOUNG.  Mid-twenties, tops.  He can't pass for 30.  Get some age on him, and I'd buy him as Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: OutlawAk on February 04, 2010, 09:36:15 PM
Hey all, I've decided to weigh in on this topic. Sorry if any of these are obvious repeats, but I couldn't manage to wade through all 110 pages of previous info. As you will tell by my choices, I am trying to - in my head - cast this as a new show with a younger cast that could stick around for a few seasons of TV that would draw a WIDE Fanboy / Girl based audience.

Let me know what you think!!


HARRY DRESDEN - Jared Padalecki

(Supernatural's tall pretty boy would be a perfect body type for the snarky detective. He's got great acting chops, swell comic timing and can physically handle the action parts required. Plus he's older than they play him on TV so it's not a stretch to see him as a late 20's gritty guy to start like in "Storm Front". Give him some stubble and let him brood a bit more and you've got Harry.)

LT. KARRIN MURPHY - Allison Mack
( Smallville's snarky reporter in training / now Watchtower has proven she's got excellent range and incredible ability to bring the high drama. As a physical match she fits the tiny detective perfectly and I am betting without a shadow of doubt that she also could fill the role of the butt-kicking monster hunting tough chick with aplomb and no little amount of attitude.)

"VOICE OF" BOB - James Marsters
(If you've listened to the audio books, this one is a no-brainer. His characterisation of Bob is tremendous. I wouldn't change a thing.)

MORGAN; WARDEN OF THE WHITE COUNCIL - Sean Bean
("Boromir" from LOTR has tons of acting cred and would bring a monster presence to the Council's Vicious Attack Dog. Obsessed Angry Super Cop? Sean Bean, all the way.)

THOMAS RAITH - Sam Witwer
(Darth Vader's Secret Apprentice from "The Force Unleashed"  and more recently Smallville's interpretation of "Doomsday" has the type of superhero-ish physique that Thomas requires. Is the King of Dark, Handsome, brooding and sinisterly sexual but also has incredible range to bring the heartbreak and emotion required. Throw on some longer, Alberto-styled dark hair and this is the man.)

LEA; THE LEANANDESIDHE - Julie Benz
(Angel's "Darla", Dexter's "Rita "but it was her recent work as the enigmatic souther belle / FBI superstar in the Boondock Saints 2: All Saint's Day that convinced me of this call. Julie would OWN Lea, being both caring, yet aloof, concerned and etherial, with attitude to spare.)

MICHAEL CARPENTER; KNIGHT OF THE CROSS - Adam Baldwin
(I think that Adam's gotten a bum rap with the type of roles he gets. Don't misunderstand, I loved "Jayne" and "Casey" on Chuck is awesome. But these guys often end up being the butt of the joke despite being the powerhouse butt kickers. I think that Adam Baldwin would bring a real gravity to the compassionate, controlled, reightous Michael. In fact, I am DYING to see him swing around that cruciform sword while slaying demons asunder.)

"GENTLEMAN" JOHNNY MARCONE - Keith Carradine
(This incredibly talented actor has recently wowed me with the depth he's brought to "Special Agent Lundy" on Dexter and then as the megalomaniacal Rossum Corporation head on Dollhouse. I think he would be perfect as the monstrously professional mob boss Marcone. My ONLY concern? Might be a touch too old for the cast.)

MERLIN LANGTRY - John Lithgow
(Who doesn't love Lithgow? The sinister intellect he could bring to this character wouold be remarkable to watch I figure. Plus his sheer size and height would make him a physical peer to Dresden, in addition to the magical-political superior.)

LILY; THE SUMMER LADY - Dichen Lachman
(During her stint on the now cancelled Dollhouse, her turn as "Sierra / Priya" was very well received. I have no doubt that Dichen could play the level of vulnerabilty and Fae-poise that this role would require.)

MAB; THE QUEEN OF AIR AND DARKNESS - Olivia Williams
(And while I'm mining the cast list from Dollhouse I Have to include this remarkable woman as being my first, best and favorite choice to play the "Wickedest of the Wicked Witches" Mab. Olivia is a stunning woman whose grace, poise and power presence are completely undeniable.)



I'm having trouble casting in my head SANYA, RAMIREZ, LARA RAITH and strangely SUSAN> I can pick "big time" actors for all of those parts. But for the level that I am looking for, I can't seem to make anyone fit. But give me time.

Thoughts?

AK
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 05, 2010, 04:46:28 AM
Jared for harry = Interesting choise! I never thought of him that way. Might work! (I'm still all for Paul Blackthorne, But I know some things can never push through... *sigh*, haha|)

allison for murphy = hmm... interesting choice, too... I'll have to think on this one, though. I don't really see it.

james as bob = haven't heard him yet.

Sean as morgan = WOOT I AM SOOO ALL FOR THIS!

Sam as Thomas = well, he doesn't exactly scream thomas in my head... hmmm...

as for the rest, I still have to look them up, and I only have a limited time in this here Internet Cafe, so maybe later. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on February 05, 2010, 07:53:15 AM
I think I'm actually okay with everyone on your list, outlaw!
although I will never see Padalecki as anything other than Dean from Gilmore Girls...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: OutlawAk on February 05, 2010, 03:21:52 PM
I honestly never thought I would be able to get into Supernatural either, but it's often his performance that really sells the show for me - especially in the ones where he's allowed to get darker and grittier. I was just watching it the other night with my Mrs Outlaw when I just went "Man, this guy coul be Harry". Thus, my posting
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on February 05, 2010, 05:21:22 PM
I've been trying to get into Supernatural lately but I keep getting distracted by PrettyfaceTM (Dean) and GilmoreGirlsDean... I dunno. Is it good enough to waste a few hours on to get used to the characters?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: OutlawAk on February 05, 2010, 05:27:47 PM
I was finally sold in the third season when they flat out did the "Groundhog Day" episode. I went from laughing my ass off to being intensely interested in Sam's adrk-character development.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: E_Aragon on February 06, 2010, 12:20:53 AM
Eric Kripke for Harry Dresden series! For those that don't know he created the show Supernatural and I think he would do a Dresden show justice. 

Sean Bean for Morgan? YES PLEASE! Sean Bean is awesome!

Who could play Molly? I haven't seen any love for Molly lately. Alison Lohman? Main girl in Drag me to Hell. She was pretty good in Matchstick Men.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0517844/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on February 06, 2010, 01:33:27 AM
I like sean bean as micheal instead of morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on February 06, 2010, 04:00:33 PM
Did anyone see the new Criminal Minds episode? Either way, this guy could definitely play Thomas... he's so prettyboy he's making my teeth ace:
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2vulzm8.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 06, 2010, 09:44:08 PM
Did anyone see the new Criminal Minds episode? Either way, this guy could definitely play Thomas... he's so prettyboy he's making my teeth ace:
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2vulzm8.jpg)

 :o :-*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 07, 2010, 03:05:18 AM
Did anyone see the new Criminal Minds episode? Either way, this guy could definitely play Thomas... he's so prettyboy he's making my teeth ace:
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2vulzm8.jpg)

Yep, saw it! Valerie did a great job. xD

*stares at pic* mm-hmm..... wow.
I kinda imagine Thomas a little less rugged, tho.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on February 07, 2010, 11:23:34 AM
He can shave :D
Also that episode really shows that this guy can really do the charming playboy/tortured monster thing which is what Thomas is all about.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bbsmith2 on February 07, 2010, 06:51:55 PM
Mac - Terry O'Quinn You served my dark cold look? (http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080507/425.lost3.050708.jpg)

Marcone - Michael Emerson Tiger's soul? (http://allserieslinamarcela.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/michael-emerson.jpg)
Marcone #2 - Neil Jackson Tiger's soul? (http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Imported/BioPix/Mi/bio16/neil-jackson1.jpg)

Susan - Rachel Bilson Smile reminds me of when she hit on Harry in the bar (http://blogs.phillynews.com/inquirer/mirrorimage/Rachel%20Bilson.jpg)

Michael - Dominic Purcell Michael's workman look? (http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/blade__trinity/dominic_purcell/trinitypreo.jpg)

all I have so far.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 08, 2010, 12:36:51 AM
Mac - Terry O'Quinn You served my dark cold look? (http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080507/425.lost3.050708.jpg)

Marcone - Michael Emerson Tiger's soul? (http://allserieslinamarcela.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/michael-emerson.jpg)
Marcone #2 - Neil Jackson Tiger's soul? (http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Imported/BioPix/Mi/bio16/neil-jackson1.jpg)

Susan - Rachel Bilson Smile reminds me of when she hit on Harry in the bar (http://blogs.phillynews.com/inquirer/mirrorimage/Rachel%20Bilson.jpg)

Michael - Dominic Purcell Michael's workman look? (http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/blade__trinity/dominic_purcell/trinitypreo.jpg)

all I have so far.



I'd rather susan be racially right, heh. the mac choice looks great xD as for the rest, I'm not so sure :D  already had one for Marcone, so yeah xD

imho and all..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on February 08, 2010, 09:18:17 AM
Ok... I haven't been a Chuck fan ... I only really caught one episode and it had Bryce in it (aka the extremely hot Mr Matthew Bomer *rrrowrrr*) and so I've been trying to find the eps with Bryce and watch those and as I was watching one today, it hit me:

The guy who plays Chuck would make an EXCELLENT Waldo Butters! He fits although he is a bit on the tall side but he fits personality wise. I mean think about it... Chuck is basically Butters but with spies!

So that was my brainfart for the evening while imbibing a bit too much on the Matt Bower tv show bottle. (been rewatching White Collar episodes)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bbsmith2 on February 08, 2010, 07:07:09 PM
I would have thought that too about Rachel Bilson, but I saw this photo of her and thought she could fit the exotic look described in the novels.  Exotic look (http://celebhairstyle.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/rachel-bilson-picture.jpg).  She's part Italian so I think she could pull it off. 

Marcone is kinda tough to figure out.  It's hard to find someone who can pull off that evil or good look. 


I have a few more picks here.

Butters - Christopher Mintz-Plasse Geeky guy who believes polka will never die! (http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/mc/year_one_premiere_160609/christopher_mintz-plasse_2462634.jpg)  Yes I know he was McLovin in Superbad, but I can picture him in a polka suit, shaking, in front of a zombie dinosaur.  Just something about that kid fits for me.


Morgan - Javier Bardem Keeping an eye on Harry (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2647/javierbardemdl8.jpg)  Yes it is the same guy that played the hitman in No Country for Old Men.  I would hate to have him looking over my shoulder.


Sanya - Chiwetel Ejiofor I couldn't find one of him holding his sword from Serenity (http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/701/701650/serenity-2-20060413021803366-000.jpg)  Yes this is the guy that played the Operative in Serenity. 


Ebenezar - Is it just me or do you picture Uncle Jesse from the Dukes of Hazard when you read his description?..lol


Do you think it's more important they "look" the the descriptions or that they can pull of the character?  Most of the time I've been racking my brain thinking of folks that fit both, but yet I always go to if they could pull it off.  That's one reason why I liked Paul int he TV show, watching him and reading about Harry was pretty close to being the same.  The same with Bob in the TV series.  Granted Terrance Mann wasn't as girl crazy, but those times when Bob said something to protect Harry in the tv series I could almost imagine that in the book.  Take the whole trying to kill Harry thing and how sorry he felt afterward (or before-ward).  So I dunno, what do you guys think is more important to casting the role(s)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 08, 2010, 07:15:22 PM
He can shave :D
Also that episode really shows that this guy can really do the charming playboy/tortured monster thing which is what Thomas is all about.

Yes, but who IS he? :D  What's his name?  I need to begin stalking him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on February 08, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
Watch your BBCode, bbsmith2. :D  I've had to go back and fix all of your links.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bbsmith2 on February 08, 2010, 10:02:14 PM
 >:(  I thought I had them right.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on February 09, 2010, 12:49:42 AM
Butters is 38 in DB.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 09, 2010, 01:44:41 AM
Do you think it's more important they "look" the the descriptions or that they can pull of the character?  Most of the time I've been racking my brain thinking of folks that fit both, but yet I always go to if they could pull it off.  That's one reason why I liked Paul int he TV show, watching him and reading about Harry was pretty close to being the same.  The same with Bob in the TV series.  Granted Terrance Mann wasn't as girl crazy, but those times when Bob said something to protect Harry in the tv series I could almost imagine that in the book.  Take the whole trying to kill Harry thing and how sorry he felt afterward (or before-ward).  So I dunno, what do you guys think is more important to casting the role(s)


That's a good point thar.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on February 09, 2010, 05:03:23 PM
Yes, but who IS he? :D  What's his name?  I need to begin stalking him.
Victor Webster
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005543/
voila!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 09, 2010, 06:53:07 PM
Victor Webster
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005543/
voila!

Hellllooooo male nurse!

Oh wow, he was Coop on Charmed.  I had the pitter-pats for him then, too.  I don't remember seeing him shirtless, but I didn't watch much that season.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on February 09, 2010, 07:27:02 PM
Charmed! Gosh and Golly, that isn't still going is it?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on February 09, 2010, 08:29:34 PM
Charmed! Gosh and Golly, that isn't still going is it?
No its done thank the maker.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: esigma on February 09, 2010, 10:51:56 PM
It is funny someone mentioning Cristoph Waltz for Nicodemus. the other day I was reading Death Masks and when you first meet Nicodemus for some reason he popped in my head.
I always imagine Mac as Bruce Willis for some reason. But someone mentioned in their post Adam Baldwin. I think that would work.
I always imagine Sarah Michelle Gellar as Murphy>
In a previous post someone mentioned Erica Cerra as Susan. Reading the books again that is who I see as Susan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on February 10, 2010, 12:29:36 AM
Yup, Erica Cerra is who Jim pictures as Susan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 13, 2010, 12:03:23 PM
I dunno why, but I keep imagining Elaine as Gabrielle Anwar - Fiona in Burn Notice O.o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on February 13, 2010, 01:20:37 PM
i just realised , when i read the books , i imagine harry pretty much like that sawyer guy from lost. i think the scowl is why, and he's constantly calling people by nicknames. also gard - the main character from fringe. -yeah i don't know the names i only watch evry odd episode of either.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 13, 2010, 01:28:44 PM
I dunno why, but I keep imagining Elaine as Gabrielle Anwar - Fiona in Burn Notice O.o

Oh wow, a complete opposite of the mental image I get. 

Gabrielle Anwar... Every time she's on screen, I keep thinking she looks bizarre.  "Mummified" is how I usually describe her; all bones and skin stretched tight over them.  Not so much a healthy tan as literally tanned, like leather.  Blergh.  She gives me the creeps.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on February 13, 2010, 05:46:19 PM
This is what I figure for my best cast so far

Harry Dresden-Nathan Fillion

Karrin Murphy-erica cerra or stana katic

Bob-hugh laurie

Thomas-Orlando Bloom(I keep picture thomas looking alot like will turner since he did all that leaping around on his boat in WN)

Michael-Liev Schreiber

Susan-Eva Mendes

Bianca-Morena Bacarin

Kincaid-Adam Baldwin

Gentleman John Marcone

Donald Morgan-Any suggestions?  I cant think of a single white actor in hollywood who could pull him off.

Lara Raith-Angelina Jolie

Sanya-Christopher Judge

Butters-Seth Green

Gard-Lucy Lawless

Hendricks-Vin Diesel or Dwayne Johnson(they dont need a lot of acting talent to stand around and glare)

Nicodemus-Mark Strong

Toot Toot-Alan Tudyk
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on February 14, 2010, 12:23:24 AM
Donald Morgan-Any suggestions?  I cant think of a single white actor in hollywood who could pull him off.

Is Rutger Hauer still working in Hollywood ?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on February 14, 2010, 07:00:45 AM
Is Rutger Hauer still working in Hollywood ?
Yes!  Give him a grey ponytail and a sword and he's perfect!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 14, 2010, 11:58:05 AM
This is what I figure for my best cast so far

Harry Dresden-Nathan Fillion


*fangirly squee*

@Kali: I don't really know why. Sometimes I get Gabrielle, sometimes I get some cute black haired girl that I'm still trying to figure out who she looks like..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on February 14, 2010, 04:49:41 PM
Oh wow, a complete opposite of the mental image I get. 

Gabrielle Anwar... Every time she's on screen, I keep thinking she looks bizarre.  "Mummified" is how I usually describe her; all bones and skin stretched tight over them.  Not so much a healthy tan as literally tanned, like leather.  Blergh.  She gives me the creeps.

I agree.  I shudder when they put her in a bikini on Burn Notice.  It's like an anatomy lesson--I can count her ribs.  I enjoy her character, but I wish she'd eat something a little more substantial than yogurt.  Maybe a rack of pork ribs.

Elaine, no.  Hashat, maybe?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 14, 2010, 05:12:44 PM
I vote Evangeline Lilly for Elaine.  Mostly 'cause I have a girl crush on her. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on February 14, 2010, 07:49:38 PM
Bob-hugh laurie


Here's something strange I stumbled across the other day.

(http://lookliker.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/hugh-laurie-terrence-mann.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 14, 2010, 07:58:33 PM
*grabs head with both hands*

Hugh Laurie as Rum Tum Tugger.  Head asplode.  Ow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on February 14, 2010, 08:35:25 PM
*grabs head with both hands*

Hugh Laurie as Rum Tum Tugger.  Head asplode.  Ow.

My work here is done. :P



Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Big-Puff on February 15, 2010, 05:04:41 AM
Yep, saw it! Valerie did a great job. xD

*stares at pic* mm-hmm..... wow.
I kinda imagine Thomas a little less rugged, tho.

John Idakitis = Thomas
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wizardsrule on February 15, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
I think Hugh Laurie wood be a good Dresden, he's got the tall and lanky body type and intense eyes. .
Since this is perfect casting I would say younger Alpacino as John Marcone
And an older hayden panettiere as Murphy
anyways those came to me while scanning other post
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 16, 2010, 01:12:05 AM
I think Hugh Laurie wood be a good Dresden, he's got the tall and lanky body type and intense eyes. .
Since this is perfect casting I would say younger Alpacino as John Marcone
And an older hayden panettiere as Murphy
anyways those came to me while scanning other post


I like this. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on February 16, 2010, 07:23:00 AM
I like this. xD


Hugh Laurie is kind of up there in age though.   Paul Blackthorne was only thirty five.  Hugh Laurie is fifty one.  That makes him sixteen-years-older than the last man who played Dresden.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 16, 2010, 03:30:48 PM

Hugh Laurie is kind of up there in age though.   Paul Blackthorne was only thirty five.  Hugh Laurie is fifty one.  That makes him sixteen-years-older than the last man who played Dresden.



well yeah. But since this is "Perfect Casting", a young Hugh Laurie would do just a nicely, I'd think.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on February 16, 2010, 04:00:15 PM
Young Hugh Laurie looked like a doofus.  Only with age did his hotness emerge. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on February 16, 2010, 04:15:46 PM
Sounds like Connery...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on February 16, 2010, 11:52:58 PM
Young Hugh Laurie looked like a doofus.  Only with age did his hotness emerge. :D
http://www.bbcprograms.com/pbs/catalog/blackadder/images/XM03_Blackadder.jpg
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on February 16, 2010, 11:53:48 PM
http://www.bbcprograms.com/pbs/catalog/blackadder/images/XM03_Blackadder.jpg

Exactly!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wizardsrule on February 17, 2010, 12:01:56 AM
I didn't know Hugh laurie was that old, doesn't look like it
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Margo on February 17, 2010, 05:28:24 AM
Perfect casting is a fun game that I play every time I reread one of the books.  I don't have them all handy, but I have to say that I do "see" some of the characters differently from the other posters.  I would love to get Jim Butcher's response to one of my preferences: I think the ONLY person who would be fabulous as Lasciel is Tyra Banks: angel/devil/goddess-girl (I'm a Tyra fan).

I also see Sean Bean as Kinkaid (as well as Aquitainus Attis in Codex Alera).

Paul Blackthorne was OK as Dresden, but a little too smooth--might make a better Thomas.  Harry should be a little more rugged, I feel.

Christopher Walken as the White King.

Lindsay Lohan as Maeve, Sienna Miller as Aurora.

Haven't any good suggestions for Gentleman Johnny Marcone yet--really a challenge!
So, Jim, are any of these close to your vision?
I'll list more possibilities next time.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on February 17, 2010, 10:36:43 PM
I didn't know Hugh laurie was that old, doesn't look like it


It's the hair.  If a man dyes his hair people tend to assume he's a lot younger than if he lets it go gray.   A good example of this is Terrence Mann and Tim Curry.  I've heard people say Terrence Mann is like an older Tim Curry but really he's seven years younger than Tim Curry.  It's just unlike Tim Curry he doesn't bother to dye his hair anymore.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: esigma on February 17, 2010, 11:04:22 PM
I think Sean Bean (IMOP) would be good either as Michael or Morgan. I think he would be a better Michael.
For some reason I see Josh Holloway as Kincaid. Josh Holloway plays Sawyer on Lost.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Raptor on February 18, 2010, 03:02:05 AM
This is something I've thought about a lot:

Dresden: Tough... I think Brendan Fraser could work (he's tall, but not thin... but I think he could do the character)

Murphy: Either Maggie Lawson from Psych (http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Maggie-Lawson-psych-630020_1024_768.jpg)

-or (going on body type)-

Jamie Eason (girl next door, and all springy muscle that doesn't preclude feminine curves) (http://dogandponyshowwebsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jamie_eason-38.jpg)

Thomas: Brad Pitt (I'm thinking Fight Club vintage), but Matt Bomer could work too.

Lara: Angelina Jolie. And she does "wanton, predatory sexuality" really well (and with Mr. & Mrs. Smith/Tomb Raider/Wanted, audiences would believe the action sequences)

Kincaid: Christian Kane (Eliot on Leverage... he may also work for Micheal)

Justine: Megan Fox (if she can do vaguely innocent)

Ebenezar: Sean Connery. Old, badass Scott... yep.

Marcone: George Clooney

Hendricks: Some pro wrestler (Triple H?)

Gard: Lucy Lawless

Bob's Voice: Hugh Laurie

Micheal: dunno

Sanya: Micheal Clark Duncan (a voice-over could fix the accent if he can't do a decent Russian accent)

Butters: Steve Buscemi (with some makeup to make him look younger).

Nicodemus: I want to say Alan Rickman (because everything's better with Alan Rickman), but while he could certainly do "souless evil", I'm not sure if I could buy him as a neigh invincible engine of destruction. Maybe Hugo Weaving?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 18, 2010, 12:43:50 PM
as someone already said alan rickman, why don't we go ahead and hire the guy who played voldemort as nicodemus? dude can sing, too. not that that matters. xD

And I can see what you're saying about young Hugh Laurie. Haha.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Raptor on February 18, 2010, 01:10:26 PM
Morgan: John Rhys-Davies (ie: Gimli from the LOTR series... he's actually 6-1)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on February 18, 2010, 04:40:21 PM
Morgan: John Rhys-Davies (ie: Gimli from the LOTR series... he's actually 6-1)
Eh...  I could see that but he's just a bit heavy for it.  He's a bit off on the build in my opinion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on March 16, 2010, 06:48:28 AM
Billy Zane as Mac.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 16, 2010, 01:19:44 PM
What REAL-WORLD BREED do we cast as mouse? xD

and mister? heh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 16, 2010, 01:46:04 PM
Mister can't be purebred.  He's not a longhair so that lets out Maine Coon, and the bobbed tail sort of lets out most other breeds.  That said, I've seen two cats that qualify, so they're out there!  I've a friend out-of-state who owns one of them.  They found him by a dumpster, this tiny little palm-cat who could barely squeak.  Four years later, they have to put him in a beagle-sized dog carrier to take him to the vet.

As for Mouse, there've been a lot of discussions on that score! :D  Even in the books, there are one or two.  I think the Caucasian Shepherd Dog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Shepherd_Dog) was Murphy's guess.  The Anatolian Shepherd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatolian_Shepherd) has been suggested, but Mouse is always described as "shaggy", so I don't think they really qualify.  For the same reason, I think we have to disqualify the Neapolitan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neapolitan_Mastiff) which is otherwise an exellent candidate.  They've certainly got the drool factor.  My pick would be for a Leonberger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonberger), but you'd have to find a gray one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 16, 2010, 02:57:15 PM
  I think the Caucasian Shepherd Dog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Shepherd_Dog) was Murphy's guess. 

that's pretty much how I imagine him to be ^^

mister's unique. >>.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 16, 2010, 03:13:02 PM
The Caucasian was Charity's guess, actually.  And yeah, it's how I view Mouse, too. :D  Great research on the other potential breeds, Kali!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 16, 2010, 03:15:33 PM
... I WANT one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fox on March 16, 2010, 03:19:17 PM
Did you read the page though, sounds like they're tough to handle. :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 16, 2010, 03:21:52 PM
okay, so maybe not exactly one Caucasian Shepherd Dog.

Just a regular, good ol dog as loyal as Mouse, then.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 16, 2010, 04:18:58 PM
The Caucasian was Charity's guess, actually.  And yeah, it's how I view Mouse, too. :D  Great research on the other potential breeds, Kali!

Wikipedia:  Making People Look Smarter, When It's Not Making Them Look Like Total Tools

:D

Also, I should note my vote is for the Leon 'cause I knew one.  This was a pony dog.  He adored kids, would let them climb all over him, pull his ears, his tail, everything.  Just... don't raise a hand to his owner.  Even in play.  He never attacked anyone, but every Mouse scene where Mouse just kind of stands up and *looks* at someone... Yeah, that was Disney.  (Yes, his name was Disney.)  He'd just stop what he was doing and *look*.  And that was a lotta dog to be lookin'.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 16, 2010, 04:20:20 PM
Wikipedia:  Making People Look Smarter, When It's Not Making Them Look Like Total Tools

:D

You could've found evidence that Mouse was a pink and purple glittery unicorn, but you pulled through!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 16, 2010, 04:23:34 PM
You could've found evidence that Mouse was a pink and purple glittery unicorn, but you pulled through!

...that makes me want to edit random things on wikipedia at the risk on being blocked.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 16, 2010, 04:27:43 PM
...that makes me want to edit random things on wikipedia at the risk on being blocked.

It's been done in another thread (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,16053.50.html). 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karrin_Murphy

I think that's enough Wikipedia silliness for one fandom, though. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Captain Kirk on March 16, 2010, 06:07:49 PM
I'm a newbie here and posted this question on a separate forum (knowing that it must have been covered already).

My vote for Harry?  Vince Vaughn.  He's got the height, the sarcasm and the acting skills.  He hasn't always done comedies like "Wedding Crashers".  The first movie I remember him in was "Return to Paradise" with Joaquin Phoenix and that was a pretty heavy drama.  I think he'd be perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 16, 2010, 06:15:57 PM
I have to say that in these more recent series, with Chuck getting more confident and savvy, I could actually see Zach Levi as a young Harry Dresden.  Maybe when he was with Ragged Angel.  He's definitely got tall-and-lanky down pat, he's 6'3" which isn't bad, and he's got a very expressive face.  He can do snark, and he's got time to grow into Harry's bitter undertones.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on March 16, 2010, 06:58:49 PM
I still say my vote sticks on Matt Bomer for Thomas: (this pic is so Thomas)

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 16, 2010, 07:01:40 PM
I still say my vote sticks on Matt Bomer for Thomas: (this pic is so Thomas)

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

I'll be in my bunk.  Again.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on March 17, 2010, 02:13:53 AM
Yep, definitely! Got the eyes!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 17, 2010, 02:17:47 AM
Man, are we still on this?  I've said it once and I'll say it again, Matt Bomer can't play Thomas. *clicks on link*  He's just too uh...

...

too...

...

Um. 

Sorry, what?  I'll uh... I'll be in Priscellie's bunk.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cstanley1976 on March 17, 2010, 02:39:49 AM
I still say my vote sticks on Matt Bomer for Thomas: (this pic is so Thomas)

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1


I really really really like him as Thomas so I'm right there with you.  I've been re-reading the series before changes comes out and when ever I read John Marcone I keep hearing Clancy Brown's voice.  He was the voice of Lex Luthor in the Superman and Justice League Animated series and is playing Hart Sterling on The Deep End.  I know Lex Luthor is very similar to John Marcone and I think Clancy has the hair, just don't know if he has the mannerisms to go with it in a movie or tv show.  But his voice is totally Marcone's
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on March 17, 2010, 02:45:02 AM
Sorry, what?  I'll uh... I'll be in Priscellie's bunk.

Careful, or people'll want to buy tickets.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 17, 2010, 02:48:29 AM
Careful, or people'll want to buy tickets.

I'm not sure you can pimp me out AND threaten to adopt me at the same time. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on March 17, 2010, 07:30:38 AM
He's the Shecky, he is special like that!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 17, 2010, 09:31:43 AM
I still say my vote sticks on Matt Bomer for Thomas: (this pic is so Thomas)

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

oh... wow... errrrm. rrm.

the other bunk seems full, so I'll be in the next one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 18, 2010, 04:41:15 AM
Robert Duvall for Ebenezer.
Roddy Piper for Michael
Hugh Laurie for Nicodemus
Djimon Hounsou for Sasha
Still want Joanne Kelley for Lara.
Actually, make that still want Joanne Kelley period.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 18, 2010, 06:56:39 PM
I want to see Snoop Dogg play Harry at least once...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on March 18, 2010, 08:33:20 PM
I want to see Snoop Dogg play Harry at least once...

WHAAAATT????
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 18, 2010, 08:36:18 PM
WHAAAATT????

It would require a whole new bunch of spells...

Poppus Capius comes to mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 18, 2010, 08:47:26 PM
WHAAAATT????

I had the same reaction. only I screamed it. in front of the computer. at 5 in the morning.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on March 18, 2010, 08:49:05 PM
I had the same reaction. only I screamed it. in front of the computer. at 5 in the morning.
As did I but it was a couple of minutes ago.  At work.  People look at you funny when you do that.  Then I showed my boss the post.  She understood.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 18, 2010, 09:07:57 PM
Snoop is tall. Gangly. A bit funny looking. Full of hidden malice with a bit of an eldritch air around him. He's constantly leaving rooms rapidly filling with smoke. I think it would be an interesting cast against type.

Of course, I'd still rather see Roddy Piper as Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on March 18, 2010, 09:18:35 PM
Snoop is tall. Gangly. A bit funny looking. Full of hidden malice with a bit of an eldritch air around him. He's constantly leaving rooms rapidly filling with smoke. I think it would be an interesting cast against type.

Of course, I'd still rather see Roddy Piper as Michael.

o.0     0.o   
I... I can only pray you're jerking us around...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 18, 2010, 09:25:12 PM
It's usually funnier to figure out what kind of reaction someone is trying to provoke, and give them the exact opposite reaction.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 18, 2010, 10:35:11 PM
OK, sure, we could come in and cast Jennifer Garner as Luccio and Sam Worthington as Michael, but where's the fun in that?

I admit I've got a warped sense of humor, but I hardly think I'm the only one guilty of that around here. I'm having fun, but I promise I'm not trolling. 

C'mon, admit it. Wouldn't it be fun to see Jesse Ventura as Morgan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Big daddy rakshasa85 on March 18, 2010, 10:40:47 PM
OK, sure, we could come in and cast Jennifer Garner as Luccio and Sam Worthington as Michael, but where's the fun in that?

I admit I've got a warped sense of humor, but I hardly think I'm the only one guilty of that around here. I'm having fun, but I promise I'm not trolling. 

C'mon, admit it. Wouldn't it be fun to see Jesse Ventura as Morgan?

Yes *_*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 18, 2010, 10:42:54 PM
And while I''m at it, does anyone else think Sarah Michelle Gellar might finally be getting old and worn enough to play Murphy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on March 18, 2010, 10:54:21 PM
C'mon, admit it. Wouldn't it be fun to see Jesse Ventura as Morgan?
0.0 ...
Okay I'll give you this one, that would be fricken hilarious.  Plus I bet he'd love getting to wear the hair. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 18, 2010, 11:12:53 PM
OK, sure, we could come in and cast Jennifer Garner as Luccio...

NO WE CAN NOT!!! >.<
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 18, 2010, 11:24:49 PM
Jennifer Garner's as predictable a choice for Luccio as Tricia Helfer is for Lash. Gimme someone fun, gimme someone you did not see coming for the part, but qualifies none the less.

Gimme Gromit playing the part of Mouse...

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 18, 2010, 11:59:11 PM
As did I but it was a couple of minutes ago.  At work.  People look at you funny when you do that.  Then I showed my boss the post.  She understood.

Cool boss.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 19, 2010, 01:48:45 AM
sorry for the double post.


So I was reading the best quotes thread, and it struck me that Kirsten Nelson, Chief Vick in Psych, would be interesting as Murphy...

(http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/93/00/0000059300_20090731154132.jpg)

thoughts?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on March 19, 2010, 02:21:48 AM
Snoop is tall. Gangly. A bit funny looking. Full of hidden malice with a bit of an eldritch air around him. He's constantly leaving rooms rapidly filling with smoke. I think it would be an interesting cast against type.

Perhaps if they have a Rastafarian version of DF but at this time... NO :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: IEatChibi on March 19, 2010, 02:27:38 AM
I still say my vote sticks on Matt Bomer for Thomas: (this pic is so Thomas)

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

.....
Um. I'll be in my-   

Hmmmm....
Well, Pricellie's bunk is full, most of the others, too...
.... >_>....<_<.....
I'll be in Matt Bomer's bunk! ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on March 19, 2010, 02:29:52 AM
.....
Um. I'll be in my-   

Hmmmm....
Well, Pricellie's bunk is full, most of the others, too...
.... >_>....<_<.....
I'll be in Matt Bomer's bunk! ;D

Sorry... already there. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: IEatChibi on March 19, 2010, 02:35:08 AM
Sorry... already there. ;)

Oh, I'm sure there's room. ;) Or some sort of rotating schedule could be devised, at least. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zolt on March 19, 2010, 09:58:26 AM
It's usually funnier to figure out what kind of reaction someone is trying to provoke, and give them the exact opposite reaction.

Just sayin'.

Ok... but, what exactly would be the opposite of "OMGWTF??"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on March 19, 2010, 07:29:50 PM
Ok... but, what exactly would be the opposite of "OMGWTF??"

TN:NWWW?
(That's Nice: Now Where Were We?) ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dilking on March 21, 2010, 01:25:57 AM
I don't remember but is there ever a mention of Nicodemus's race?? Because I think that a good casting choice for him would be Eamonn Walker (OZ, Justice). Or if not, he'd also be a GREAT Morgan..


I also think Christian Slater (Kuffs, The Forgotten) would make a great Thomas. Check out his work in My Own Worst Enemy..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 21, 2010, 03:24:51 AM
sorry for the double post.


So I was reading the best quotes thread, and it struck me that Kirsten Nelson, Chief Vick in Psych, would be interesting as Murphy...

(http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/93/00/0000059300_20090731154132.jpg)

thoughts?

What, a woman who plays a blonde police department head named "Karen" who occasionally hires a smart-assed private investigator with apparent supernatural abilities and a "magic head" for a sidekick who drives around the city in a comically small blue car to consult for tougher cases?  I just don't see it. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on March 21, 2010, 05:15:28 AM
Micheal sheen as Quintus Cassius.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 21, 2010, 05:44:35 AM
What, a woman who plays a blonde police department head named "Karen" who occasionally hires a smart-assed private investigator with apparent supernatural abilities and a "magic head" for a sidekick who drives around the city in a comically small blue car to consult for tougher cases?  I just don't see it. :D

...wow... xD never saw the parallels.

...just.. wow!... seriously... wow... whu.... xD

I'm still in shock here.  ;D and still laughing my butt off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: EvulTwin on March 21, 2010, 02:47:53 PM
I think hands down the perfect Thomas is...Matt Bomer. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 21, 2010, 03:03:58 PM
I think hands down the perfect Thomas is...Matt Bomer. 

been said million times. been taken to bunks, even.

I still vote Kirsten Nelson for Murph!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vulcanisik on March 21, 2010, 08:42:21 PM
lawl David Duchovny for Dresden.

Not sure why, he just seems to capture the wit, the playfulness, and the righteous rage.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on March 21, 2010, 11:14:05 PM
So I was watching my favorite guilty pleasure the other day "Corrina, Corrina", and I wondered, whatever happened to that adorable little girl? I haven't really seen her in anything else. So I googled, and found to my immense delight that she is still adorable, not tall and also that she has a black belt in the martial art of Tang Soo Do.
Now, I have no idea what Tang Soo Do is, but it sounds like something Murphy would do.
(http://www.poptower.com/pic-9051/tina-majorino.jpg)(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI5NTM0MTEwMl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTUwODAzMQ@@._V1._SX450_SY393_.jpg)
I dunno, I really like her for Murphy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: RobJN on March 21, 2010, 11:29:55 PM
Tang Soo Do, a Korean martial art, loosely translated as "Empty Hand Way."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 21, 2010, 11:37:13 PM
I adored her on Veronica Mars, and now she's great on The Deep End.  She tends to play meeker characters, though, so I'm not sure how she'd tackle Murphy.  I'd love to see her audition, though!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Der Sturmbrecher on March 22, 2010, 04:27:02 AM
I can't picture anybody but Hugh jackman doing Harry anymore.
Harry: Hugh Jackman
Murphy: Patricia Heaton (needs a hair dye, but I think she'd do well)
Bob: Kevin Kline
Thomas: Matt Bomer
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cstanley1976 on March 22, 2010, 05:52:42 PM
I adored her on Veronica Mars, and now she's great on The Deep End.  She tends to play meeker characters, though, so I'm not sure how she'd tackle Murphy.  I'd love to see her audition, though!

She does play meeker characters on the shows.  But she's so good as an actress and you don't get a black belt in any martial arts without being able to throw down once in a while i think she could pull Murphy off. Its all about how the part is adapted and then how the director directs the actors.  And of course how skilled the actors are.  But I have faith.  She was one of my favorite characters on the deep end.  And I still say Clancy Brown as Marcone. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on March 22, 2010, 09:44:14 PM
What about Lee Pace from Pushing Daisies for Harry? He's 1.91 cm according to his IMDB page...
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvyny0fUTF1qa1vdfo1_r2_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 22, 2010, 10:12:42 PM
Quote
And I still say Clancy Brown as Marcone. 

I love Clancy Brown, but I'd cast him for Hendricks before I'd cast him for Marcone. Clancy's too big, in body and personality. I'd cast Ron Perlman before Clancy, and Ron's still way too big for the part.

Marcone's a snake, sleek, quiet, and hitting WAY above his weight class. In his own way, Marcone's every bit a "badass grandpa" as Ebenezer, and the two of them would reach an "adequate understanding of each other" upon meeting, no gunfire or soulgaze required.

Andy Garcia's way too good-looking for Marcone, but I still read him closer than Brown.

Marcone is Quiet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 22, 2010, 10:14:10 PM
What about Lee Pace from Pushing Daisies for Harry? He's 1.91 cm according to his IMDB page...
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvyny0fUTF1qa1vdfo1_r2_500.jpg)

Just when I thought I was out of my bunk...they pull me back in.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dilking on March 23, 2010, 12:11:40 AM
I'd put John Shea (Lex Luther from Adv. of Lois & Clark) as Marcone.

Even reading the books, he always came to mind for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vulcanisik on March 23, 2010, 12:17:40 AM
I'd put John Shea (Lex Luther from Adv. of Lois & Clark) as Marcone.

Even reading the books, he always came to mind for me.

I could definitely see that for him.

I could also see Gabriel Byrne as Marcone, he was the Father in Stigmata.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 23, 2010, 12:36:24 AM
Gabriel Byrne as Marcone is an excellent choice.

Now that I think about it, I kinda like Alfred Molina for the part too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dilking on March 23, 2010, 06:05:23 AM
I would see Alfred Molina more as the Merlin  (Look at the previews for Sorcerer's Apprentice... if that isn't Molina auditioning for the role, I don't know what is!) :)

Here's kind of a reverse to this... what part in the Dresdenverse would you give to Christopher Walken??

 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 23, 2010, 06:10:41 AM
Christopher Walken?

Nicodemus. Arthur Langtry. ...

And maybe Mouse's voiceover.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vulcanisik on March 23, 2010, 11:22:44 AM
Christopher Walken?

Nicodemus. Arthur Langtry. ...

And maybe Mouse's voiceover.

Uh... Walken could be Mac. They could maybe let Mac talk a bit more but still be the mysterious old sometimes insightful bartender.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 23, 2010, 08:38:43 PM
Quote
Uh... Walken could be Mac. They could maybe let Mac talk a bit more but still be the mysterious old sometimes insightful bartender.

The massive gruff left furrows in the ceiling as it walked out. I tried to get my breathing started again, though my heart just wouldn't stop. Murphy took a couple of tries to get her gun reholstered.

Mac brought over three bottles, and kept one for himself. He pulled the top off, and raised the bottle. "Bravely done." Mac took a slug and furrowed his brow.

"But you could have used more cowbell."



The chair splintered over Morgan's head, and he just dropped. The storm was brewing, and I was running out of time. Mac gave me a look. "Council's gonna be pissed," he said.

"Mac, I need to borrow your car." Mac nodded, reached into his apron and pulled out ... a bottle of beer.

"Mac?"

"This bottle of beer was brewed by the first company in America to brew beer. Your mother and I ran from the wardens for five years, during which time she kept the beer hidden. After she passed on, I hid this cold, uncomfortable hunk of glass up my ass for two years. And now, little man, I give this bottle to you. "

The damnedest thing was the bottle actually started the car....

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 23, 2010, 08:54:28 PM
The chair splintered over Morgan's head, and he just dropped. The storm was brewing, and I was running out of time. Mac gave me a look. "Council's gonna be pissed," he said.

"Mac, I need to borrow your car." Mac nodded, reached into his apron and pulled out ... a bottle of beer.

"Mac?"

"This bottle of beer was brewed by the first company in America to brew beer. Your mother and I ran from the wardens for five years, during which time she kept the beer hidden. After she passed on, I hid this cold, uncomfortable hunk of glass up my ass for two years. And now, little man, I give this bottle to you. "

The damnedest thing was the bottle actually started the car....



*bow*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on March 30, 2010, 05:27:35 AM
This is how I see it in my head

Harry - zachary quinto (yes, sylar. if you've seen the guy on heroes and the star trek movie you know he can do "grumpy and nerd")
Murphy - nikki aycox (perfect type casting and if you've seen her on dark blue and supernatural you get it)
butters- the kid who played McLovin in Superbad
kincaid - christian kane (looks like he might shoot you, or at least deck you at any given time)
Morgan -Rade Serbedzija (played boris the blade in "snatch)
Eb- Robert duvall (circa secondhand lions)
Molly- taylor momsen (tries to be edgy teen but she'll always be cindy-lou who on some level, kinda mirrors how harry views molly)
Nicodemus- lambert wilson (played the merovignion in matrix part 2)
Mavra- Tilda swinton made up all corpsey-like
luccio(younger version)-Alexa Davalos because hey, evil dimples
Lash/Lasciel- Kate Beahan
Billy the werewolf-Ryan Merriman Laugh if you want but he could pull of the transition from green kid to seasoned fighter of the big bad.
Marcone-neal mcdonough (played sharp-eyed mobster in walking tall) or titus welliver
justin-malcolm mcdowell
Sanya-Chiwetel Ejiofor
Ms. Guard-Tricia Helfer
Leanan sidhe-Christina Hendricks
the gatekeeper- Ian Mc("C***sucker!")shane cause his voice fits the hearty laugh scene involving harry's bandaged head.
Martha Liberty- can we get Oprah?
injun joe- graham greene
The merlin- Terrence "kneel before ZOD!" Stamp, just picture him looking annoyed with harry.
peabody- Peter Macnicol imagine him yelling "THE END IS NIGH!DRESDEN'S GONE WARLOC!"
Elaine- Anna Torv (from fringe)
Susan- Emmanuelle vaugier

the White and red court- hell, cast real pornstars!

Michael- started out picturing treat williams but he may be too old now, probably nathan fillion now
Thomas- I have absolutely no friggin idea

...and Bruce Campbell as the voice of Bob

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zankaru Zelladonii on March 30, 2010, 08:38:06 AM

Morgan-- Alan Rickman    You need menace.  the problem is that before Turn Coat Morgan has few dimensions.



Hahaha.... great, now every time I re-read the books im going to have rickmans voice stuck in my head at the morgan parts.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on March 30, 2010, 10:26:34 AM
Thomas- I have absolutely no friggin idea

You obviously did not see my post with the pic of Matt Bomer:

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

Just look... it will only take a moment and you will know what it means when they say "got the vapors." ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 30, 2010, 04:19:19 PM
*glares*

*turns around and stomps back to her bunk*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 30, 2010, 06:44:51 PM
*glares*

*turns around and stomps back to her bunk*

OCCUPIED!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on March 30, 2010, 07:04:16 PM
Here's kind of a reverse to this... what part in the Dresdenverse would you give toChristopher Walken??

If we can have him at bout the timeframe of King of New York, Marcone.

I saw him on stage a couple of weeks ago. He has phenomenal charisma and presence.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on March 30, 2010, 07:04:52 PM
Uh... Walken could be Mac. They could maybe let Mac talk a bit more but still be the mysterious old sometimes insightful bartender.

I have recently come round to the position that the person to play Mac is Tom Waits.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on March 30, 2010, 07:06:08 PM

Hahaha.... great, now every time I re-read the books im going to have rickmans voice stuck in my head at the morgan parts.

Doesn't work for me; I still see Morgan as Rutger Hauer in 1984 or so.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: meh on March 30, 2010, 07:39:27 PM

Nick Brimble
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on March 31, 2010, 02:40:18 AM
*glares*

*turns around and stomps back to her bunk*

I need that bunk... I'm reading Blood Rites and I'm to the scene in the cavern so you can imagine what I'm seeing in my mindscape. *swoons*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ACiDuS on March 31, 2010, 03:39:54 AM
It's these guys for me:

Harry- Paul Blackthorne.  Was perfect casting imo, about the only thing the tv show did right.

Murphy- Murphy is Laura Linney for me.  If only she could become 5-10 years younger for storm front!

Thomas- I've always pictured the white court as the flawless china doll type.  For me he has always resembled Jude Law...whats more, Law could pull off the effortless swuave thing.

Morgan-- I don't know why, but I've always pictured him as kris kristofferson.  There is that mix of venom yet you know underneath he is one of the good guys.  He had that 'been there, done it' vibe going in blade too.

Lara Raith-- Mila Kunis or Megan Fox.  If they wanted her slightly older, Angelina Jolie or Monica Belucci.  This character just needs to ooze sex and power.
Susan-- Roselyn Sanchez
Bob -- Voiced by Stephen Fry.  Needs the sarcasm and the wit in the voice.   Would be superb.
Butters-- Needs the geek factor.  I think Zach Braff would be great as butters.
Michael--  Needs a severity, but also the ability to really act out such a pure character.  For me he would be great portrayed by Viggo Mortensen.

Nicodemus -- Has always been Udo Kier for me.  Seriously, google him.  He has the total look, with an otherworldly presence about him.   
Kincaid --  I've always pictured him as Benicio Del Toro.
Faerie Queens-- Think it would be fantastic to have Cate Blanchett portray both.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 31, 2010, 04:36:12 AM
Quote
Harry- Paul Blackthorne.  Was perfect casting imo, about the only thing the tv show did right.

Murphy- Murphy is Laura Linney for me.  If only she could become 5-10 years younger for storm front!

Thomas- I've always pictured the white court as the flawless china doll type.  For me he has always resembled Jude Law...whats more, Law could pull off the effortless swuave thing.

Morgan-- I don't know why, but I've always pictured him as kris kristofferson.  There is that mix of venom yet you know underneath he is one of the good guys.  He had that 'been there, done it' vibe going in blade too.

Lara Raith-- Mila Kunis or Megan Fox.  If they wanted her slightly older, Angelina Jolie or Monica Belucci.  This character just needs to ooze sex and power.
Susan-- Roselyn Sanchez
Bob -- Voiced by Stephen Fry.  Needs the sarcasm and the wit in the voice.   Would be superb.
Butters-- Needs the geek factor.  I think Zach Braff would be great as butters.
Michael--  Needs a severity, but also the ability to really act out such a pure character.  For me he would be great portrayed by Viggo Mortensen.

Nicodemus -- Has always been Udo Kier for me.  Seriously, google him.  He has the total look, with an otherworldly presence about him.   
Kincaid --  I've always pictured him as Benicio Del Toro.
Faerie Queens-- Think it

would be fantastic to have Cate Blanchett portray both.

Ladies and gentlemen, with the exception of Nicodemus and Lara, I believe we have found our casting director.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: meh on March 31, 2010, 05:35:14 AM
Nick Brimble for Nicodemus
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zankaru Zelladonii on March 31, 2010, 06:25:29 AM
Doesn't work for me; I still see Morgan as Rutger Hauer in 1984 or so.

I know it does not work, but that is why it got stuck in my head.



It's these guys for me:

Harry- Paul Blackthorne.  Was perfect casting imo, about the only thing the tv show did right.

Murphy- Murphy is Laura Linney for me.  If only she could become 5-10 years younger for storm front!

Thomas- I've always pictured the white court as the flawless china doll type.  For me he has always resembled Jude Law...whats more, Law could pull off the effortless swuave thing.

Morgan-- I don't know why, but I've always pictured him as kris kristofferson.  There is that mix of venom yet you know underneath he is one of the good guys.  He had that 'been there, done it' vibe going in blade too.

Lara Raith-- Mila Kunis or Megan Fox.  If they wanted her slightly older, Angelina Jolie or Monica Belucci.  This character just needs to ooze sex and power.
Susan-- Roselyn Sanchez
Bob -- Voiced by Stephen Fry.  Needs the sarcasm and the wit in the voice.   Would be superb.
Butters-- Needs the geek factor.  I think Zach Braff would be great as butters.
Michael--  Needs a severity, but also the ability to really act out such a pure character.  For me he would be great portrayed by Viggo Mortensen.

Nicodemus -- Has always been Udo Kier for me.  Seriously, google him.  He has the total look, with an otherworldly presence about him.   
Kincaid --  I've always pictured him as Benicio Del Toro.
Faerie Queens-- Think it would be fantastic to have Cate Blanchett portray both.

GOOD LORD, MAN!

Its like you have Intellectus when it comes to casting. (At least on looks, I only know half of those actors)

Zach braff as butters? Yes.
Stephen fry as bob? Hell yes!
Viggo Mortensen as michael? <see first line above>
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 01, 2010, 10:16:18 AM

Thomas- I've always pictured the white court as the flawless china doll type.  For me he has always resembled Jude Law...whats more, Law could pull off the effortless swuave thing.


*dies*


...Can Robert Downey Jr. fit anywhere? And Johnny Depp?

haha.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on April 01, 2010, 10:22:09 AM
Dunno why, but I'm suddenly seeing Simon Pegg as Butters. Unfortunately, he's 5'10".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 01, 2010, 01:16:20 PM
Dunno why, but I'm suddenly seeing Simon Pegg as Butters. Unfortunately, he's 5'10".

that's actually quite interesting.. but.,. yeah, there's that.

I keep on seeing Zach Galifianakis as Butters after seeing him in Tru Calling. but he's 5'8, so...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: horrorhack13 on April 01, 2010, 03:17:00 PM
(http://www.all-pictures.org/celebrities/d/231623-2/Josh+Duhamel+e26.jpg) Josh Duhamel as Harry?

I think he looks like the cover for white night... dont know how tall he is but meh
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on April 01, 2010, 03:49:04 PM
Having just watched Charlie's Angels again, Crispin Glover for Madrigal Raith.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on April 01, 2010, 09:29:32 PM
I keep on seeing Zach Galifianakis as Butters after seeing him in Tru Calling. but he's 5'8, so...

Also Zach Galifianakis is a bit...thick for the role. Butters is supposed to be tiny, like a buck-ten soaking wet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 02, 2010, 03:05:57 AM
Also Zach Galifianakis is a bit...thick for the role. Butters is supposed to be tiny, like a buck-ten soaking wet.

mmmm. (http://www.wvah.com/programs/trucalling/zachgalifianakis.jpg)
yeah, maybe, but that's my mental image when I was reading the books. idk why, lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cstanley1976 on April 02, 2010, 04:23:58 AM
How about either Phil or Lem from Better off Ted as Butters.  Phil is the short white guy and Lem is the tall black guy but I honestly think either could play Butters.  In this case I don't care about skin color of Butters.  I can picture both of them yelling "Polka will never die!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: I Am WonderCow on April 07, 2010, 11:00:06 PM
Dresden:
Joe Flanigan - Not as tall as Harry (but then again, who is?) but DAMN does he look the part.
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Global+Green+USA+3rd+Annual+Pre+Oscar+Party+2Q79jTRyx46l.jpg

Lee Pace - Some of you might recognize him as the Pie Maker, from Pushing Daisies.
http://blog.newsok.com/television/files/2009/03/lee-pace.jpg

John Cusack - And he's even a Chicago native
http://www.pingceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/john-cusack.jpg

Thomas:
Jonathan Rhys Meyers - If that picture doesn't scream Thomas Raith, I don't know what does.
http://thebosh.com/archives/Jonathan%20Rhys-Meyers%2011.jpg

Murphy:
Elisha Cuthbert - She's 5'2" and perhaps the foxiest woman ALIVE.
http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2006/08/elisha-cuthbert-jeans.jpg

Michael:
Christopher Meloni -
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Christopher-Meloni-Photograph-C10052254.jpeg

Susan:
Leonor Varela - She's got "sexy hispanic chick" on lockdown
http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/36/11/0000023611_20060921180639.jpg

Ebeneezar:
Brendan Gleeson - Some of you may know him as Mad Eye Moody. I remember him as the badass best friend from Braveheart.
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/old_leaky/images/actors/Brendan%20Gleeson.jpg

The Archive:
Elle Fanning - She's got that cute/creepy thing going on.
http://www.childstarlets.com/lobby/bios/portraits/elle_fanning15.jpg

That's all I've thought up for the time being. I'll update as I think of characters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: meh on April 07, 2010, 11:14:19 PM
Dresden:
Joe Flanigan - Not as tall as Harry (but then again, who is?) but DAMN does he look the part.
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Global+Green+USA+3rd+Annual+Pre+Oscar+Party+2Q79jTRyx46l.jpg

A little too round-faced and cherubic cheeked for my image of Harry.
Quote
Thomas:
Jonathan Rhys Meyers - If that picture doesn't scream Thomas Raith, I don't know what does.
http://thebosh.com/archives/Jonathan%20Rhys-Meyers%2011.jpg

I thought Thomas was supposed to look masculine though?   ;)

Quote
Murphy:
Elisha Cuthbert - She's 5'2" and perhaps the foxiest woman ALIVE.
http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2006/08/elisha-cuthbert-jeans.jpg

Cute, but Murphy is more about the /fierce/ personality, no?

Quote
Michael:
Christopher Meloni -
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Christopher-Meloni-Photograph-C10052254.jpeg

The fivehead could work.

Quote
Susan:
Leonor Varela - She's got "sexy hispanic chick" on lockdown
http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/36/11/0000023611_20060921180639.jpg

Not bad.   I'd want to see a shot with a little less "coquette"- mannerism, though.


Quote
Ebeneezar:
Brendan Gleeson - Some of you may know him as Mad Eye Moody. I remember him as the badass best friend from Braveheart.
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/old_leaky/images/actors/Brendan%20Gleeson.jpg

Has he ever played a role with big gravitas?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: I Am WonderCow on April 07, 2010, 11:31:13 PM

Has he ever played a role with big gravitas?


Brendan Gleeson's a phenomenal actor, to tell you the truth. Watch him in In Bruges.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: meh on April 07, 2010, 11:41:12 PM
Brendan Gleeson's a phenomenal actor, to tell you the truth. Watch him in In Bruges.

I have, thanks for the reminder.   
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kelvor on April 08, 2010, 03:32:38 AM
My new favourite casting choice would be actress Krysten Pellerin for Murphy.
She's got the look, and the attitude, and recently played a similar character on Canadian tv series Republic of Doyle. Which you should all check out, it's Awesome.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1431540736/nm2115995 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1431540736/nm2115995)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: meh on April 08, 2010, 04:58:55 PM

^That could almost work for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dawnmist on April 08, 2010, 09:10:25 PM
Hello -

I usually lurk more than post, but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in for what it's worth on a couple of the characters.  I have always pictured Butters as a little guy like Danny Strong -  the short, Jewish guy who played Jonathan Levinson, one of the mad trio of sorcerers during one of the Buffy the Vampire seasons.  As for Bob's voice?  I've always heard him in my mind as John Cleese of Monty Python fame.  He has the British Accent and the risque range to pull off the naughtiness when required  ;).  As for Susan - I've always kinda pictured her as a Roselyn Sanchez, who played agent Elena Delgado in Without a Trace.  She's Hispanic with the high cheekbones and she can play smart and savvy.

Just throwing that out there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ColdWinterWind on April 09, 2010, 03:44:21 AM
Gawd, there's some truly inspired casting ideas.

My own small contribution -
Telly Savalas as Gentleman John Marcone

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2nqeder.png)

And I know he's all corpse-ified and such, but whenever I read Kincaid, I see
Lee Van Cleef
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2ym69tw.png)

(Just exchange the six-shooter with a Hechler & Koch MSG90A1)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Justslayer on April 10, 2010, 03:20:47 AM
Being an addict of BOTH Harry Dresdon and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I gotta say James Marsters.  His real hair is curly, although it would have to probably be straightened a tiny bit for it to be Harry's.  And yeah, I know he's not that tall(but lifts would help), and we KNOW he can play a sarcastic wiseass. hehe:)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Starbeam on April 10, 2010, 03:23:42 AM
Being an addict of BOTH Harry Dresdon and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I gotta say James Marsters.  His real hair is curly, although it would have to probably be straightened a tiny bit for it to be Harry's.  And yeah, I know he's not that tall(but lifts would help), and we KNOW he can play a sarcastic wiseass. hehe:)
Have you heard the audio books?  He narrates them.  And my understanding is that he almost got cast in the TV show.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 10, 2010, 03:43:05 AM
Hello -

I usually lurk more than post, but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in for what it's worth on a couple of the characters.  I have always pictured Butters as a little guy like Danny Strong -  the short, Jewish guy who played Jonathan Levinson, one of the mad trio of sorcerers during one of the Buffy the Vampire seasons. 

I LOVE this.  Love it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Paynesgrey on April 10, 2010, 03:49:07 AM
"Jonathon."  Yeah, that one's dead on for Butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bwleon7 on April 13, 2010, 11:59:38 PM
Harry - David Boreanaz / Nathan Fillion
Thomas Raith - James Marsters ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/ )
Murphy - Eliza Dushku ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0244630/ )
Bob - Bruce Campbell ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0132257/ )
Ivy - Chloe Moretz ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1631269/ )
Mab - Juliet Landau ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0484460/ )
Shiro Yoshimo - George Takei ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001786/ )
Molly Carpenter -
Jared Kincaid - Christian Kane ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0437283/ )
Michael Carpenter -
Anastasia Luccio -
Ebenezar McCoy - Jim Beaver ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0064769/ )
Johnny Marcone -
Donald Morgan - Misha Collins ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0172557/ )
Lara Raith -
Susan Rodriguez - Genevieve Cortese ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1298809/ )
Sanya -
The Leanansidhe -
Maeve -
Elaine Mallory -
Titania -
Aurora -
Lily -
Fix -
Butters -
Toot-Toot -
Carlos Ramirez - 
Nicodemus -



Will update as I think of more
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mficchi on April 14, 2010, 09:39:59 PM
Anyone else think Eric Bana would be a great dresden,
Other Characters would be:

Thomas:  Orlando bloom
Susan: Katherine Bell
Murphy: Julie Bowen
Molly: Chyler Leigh
Bob: Mr. Feeney

I know it's a short list but those are constant characters

I can't really figure out who would be a good michael or Sanya
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: logarithm.and.blues on April 14, 2010, 11:01:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nxHxfB_ElU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nxHxfB_ElU)
8:07 Jim on potential actor for Harry in the hypothetical movie: "I always kinda liked Will Smith, 'cause he has the right attitude."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on April 15, 2010, 01:24:11 AM
I like Will Smith in anything, and have been surprised at my ability to accept him playing a "white" lead character.

Yeah, I know that sounds racist. Tell me you don't get what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: logarithm.and.blues on April 15, 2010, 01:34:59 AM
...you're saying he has that ability to assume the personality of a white person, even though he's black?

Okay, after you answer this question, that's the farthest we're going down racist lane, okay?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on April 15, 2010, 01:37:10 AM
No, I'm saying that he has the ability to bring out the humanity of the character and you actually rise above considering the color of his skin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 15, 2010, 01:39:12 AM
Anyone else think Eric Bana would be a great dresden,
Other Characters would be:

Thomas:  Orlando bloom
Susan: Katherine Bell
Murphy: Julie Bowen
Molly: Chyler Leigh
Bob: Mr. Feeney

I know it's a short list but those are constant characters

I can't really figure out who would be a good michael or Sanya

mmmmm not fond of orlando bloom.


Harry - David Boreanaz / Nathan Fillion
Thomas Raith - James Marsters ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/ )
Shiro Yoshimo - George Takei ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001786/ )
Ebenezar McCoy - Jim Beaver ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0064769/ )
Donald Morgan - Misha Collins ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0172557/ )
Susan Rodriguez - Genevieve Cortese ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1298809/ )


I like this.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: logarithm.and.blues on April 15, 2010, 01:48:11 AM
No, I'm saying that he has the ability to bring out the humanity of the character and you actually rise above considering the color of his skin.
That is a very good point.
I would totally go with Nathan Fillion as Harry; he's got the snark. Boreanaz has the looks, but based on the characters he's portrayed, I can't really imagine Seeley Booth from Bones as Harry.
Totally Misha Collins for Morgan, in terms of personality. Castiel really reminds me of Morgan.
Eliza Dushku... is definitely hot. That's my two cents.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on April 15, 2010, 02:24:28 AM
No, I'm saying that he has the ability to bring out the humanity of the character and you actually rise above considering the color of his skin.

She's right. A truly good actor can excel past his own appearance.  In the Lestat musical an African American actor played Marius (a man of Roman / Celtic descent) and at least in the San Francisco production (the writing was seriously dumbed down in New York) he was fantastic in that role.

   
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dilking on April 15, 2010, 04:52:06 AM
I got a couple of ideas for the White Court:

Thomas - Jonathan Rhys Meyers
(http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/theremoteisland/2009/03/jonathan_rhys_meyers.jpg)

And for Lara - Emmanuelle Vaugier
(http://images.buddytv.com/battleimages/usr100431082/100431082_6eac5d1e-b205-4df5-a21e-c63c1b29c01f-emmanuellevaugier.jpg)

Thoughts??
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on April 15, 2010, 05:21:45 AM
I got a couple of ideas for the White Court:

Thomas - Jonathan Rhys Meyers
(http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/theremoteisland/2009/03/jonathan_rhys_meyers.jpg)


Thoughts??

He's perfect.  I loved him back in Velvet Goldmine.  But can he do an American accent?





Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on April 15, 2010, 06:58:23 AM
You obviously did not see my post with the pic of Matt Bomer:

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

Just look... it will only take a moment and you will know what it means when they say "got the vapors." ;)

I'm sorry Priscillie but I am going to repost this till everyone thinks Matt should play Thomas. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on April 15, 2010, 08:26:39 AM
oooooh yes that's definitely thomas  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 15, 2010, 12:00:18 PM
Clive Owen?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 15, 2010, 12:30:04 PM
I'm sorry Priscillie but I am going to repost this till everyone thinks Matt should play Thomas. :P

Goooooooood morning!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on April 16, 2010, 01:13:24 PM
New Here, but have been a lurker for quite some time. 

I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents... here is what I came up with

Harry - Neil Flynn (Wouldnt have thought of it, but after I read this... damn... fits)
Thomas - Jared Leto (We are looking for an over all pretty boy)
Bianca - Amy Lee of Evanesence
Ramierz - Wilmer Valderama
Marcone - Ray Wise - Dude who plays the Devil in Reaper OR Kurt Fuller (Played Zachariah in Supernatural)
Molly - Hard Choice, I would go with the Ellen Page from Xmen and Hard Candy
Ebenezer - Anthony Hopkins
Bob - Hugh Laurie, or Bruce Cambell
Morgan - Alan Rickman
Nicodemus - Christophen Walken Ala Prophecy

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on April 17, 2010, 12:29:15 AM
oooooh yes that's definitely thomas  :D

And here's another possible Thomas pose by Mr. Bomer:
http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/2442946/matt-bomer-white-suit-02/

White suit just "suits" him. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on April 17, 2010, 12:32:43 AM
And here's another possible Thomas pose by Mr. Bomer:
http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/2442946/matt-bomer-white-suit-02/

White suit just "suits" him. ;)

 :o yes. more please.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 17, 2010, 12:36:35 AM
I was just drooling over that on Twitter.  He looks very White Court, I must say!  Now if only we had a picture reflecting Thomas' household uniform...  Oh wait, we do!

(http://theninemuses.net/junk/shirtlessNeal.jpg) (http://theninemuses.net/junk/shirtlessNeal-lg.jpg)

Edit: Fixed link!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on April 17, 2010, 12:49:54 AM
I was just drooling over that on Twitter.  He looks very White Court, I must say!  Now if only we had a picture reflecting Thomas' household uniform...  Oh wait, we do!

(http://theninemuses.net/junk/shirtlessNeal.jpg) (http://theninemuses.net/junk/shirtlessNeal-lg.jpg)

*finds a bunk to hide in...* Evil Priscillie! ;) <3


Edit: Fixed link!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 17, 2010, 01:50:24 AM
Whoops, the link expired.  All better now!  And you can even click to embiggen.  Life is good.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 17, 2010, 01:56:57 AM
My only objection to Matt Bomer is I've never seen him try to pull off a dark, sultry kind of sexy.  He's cute 'cause he's just made that way, but can he... y'know... go all predator-sexy?  He's just got so much boyish charm, very boy-next-door, all-American kind of cute.  Trying to picture him as Thomas is like... Like seeing Jenna Elfman as Lara.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on April 17, 2010, 02:25:38 AM
My only objection to Matt Bomer is I've never seen him try to pull off a dark, sultry kind of sexy.  He's cute 'cause he's just made that way, but can he... y'know... go all predator-sexy?  He's just got so much boyish charm, very boy-next-door, all-American kind of cute.  Trying to picture him as Thomas is like... Like seeing Jenna Elfman as Lara.

That's what people thought when Tom Cruise was cast as Lestat in Interview with the vampire and surprisingly he pulled it off exactly the way Anne Rice intended (at least according to her Variety article, amazon review, and facebook ranting).

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 17, 2010, 03:23:14 AM
You think Matt Bomer is "boy-next-door"?  Can I move two houses down from you? :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 17, 2010, 03:43:25 AM
*shivers deliciously at the extremely hot picture*

mmm, bunk please.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ColdWinterWind on April 17, 2010, 04:35:18 AM
And you can even click to embiggen.  Life is good.

What?  Just a click?  No foreplay?!?? :o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 17, 2010, 04:36:40 AM
What?  Just a click?  No foreplay?!?? :o

What can I say?  His pixels are very responsive.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on April 17, 2010, 07:10:19 AM
You think Matt Bomer is "boy-next-door"?  Can I move two houses down from you? :D

I keep trying to get my dad to ask his friend if he's related to Matt. They share the same last name and it's just a weird coincidence the only other Bomer I've ever known or heard of was my dad's friend. I keep thinking he has to be atleast his uncle if nothing else. Would make me happy to know I know someone related to him if only through my dad. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: gynji on April 17, 2010, 03:39:45 PM
I think my fiance makes a perfect Harry. That's why I nudged him towards Dresden cosplaying with me by buying him the leather duster.. lol! I just posted the pictures in a different thread. I cosplayed as Murphy, but while reading the books I always pictured her as that chick from Shaun of the Dead.. the girlfriend.. whats-her-face??
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jefe on April 17, 2010, 04:07:37 PM
Seems like everyone wants to skew young; Harry is pushing 40 in Changes and we've got 10 more+ years coming.  That being said, here are some of the faces I see in my head.

Harry: Hugh Laurie, Hugh Laurie, Hugh Laurie
Murphy: Elizabeth Banks has always worked here for me
Thomas: Michael Fassbender, who I wuldn't have thought of without reading this thread. (Sorry Priscillie, I think Bomer is too young)
Susan: Eva Mendes
Michael: Jeff Bridges (I love the idea of The Dude being the Fist of God, and he could do it.  Give him an excuse to lose the belly)
Molly: Blake Lively
Sanya: Djimon Honsou
Morgan: Alan Rickman (He can play disdain like nobody else)
Eb: Robert Duvall (it can be no other, Eb IS Gus McCrae from Lonesome Dove)
Merlin: Donald Sutherland
Nicodemus: Gary Oldman (typecast as a villian, and so what?)
Kincaid: Russell Crowe (when he's fit)
Marcone: Adrian Pasdar (from Heroes)
Ms. Demeter: Tilda Swinton (emotionally vacant, hollow-eyed weirdo)
Ms. Gard: Charlize Theron (actually, insert any tall, blonde, not too skinny competent actress here)
Hendricks: Michael Clarke Duncan (I know in the books he's white, but so what?)
Mab: Heidi Klum (anybody watch Project Runway?  I totally think she could do this)
Lea: Julie Benz
Maeve: Eliza Dushku
Lara: Kate Beckinsale (so she has already done hot brunette vampire - don't fix it if it ain't broke)
Lara's sisters: Megan Fox, Jessica Alba, Natalie Portman
Mac: Bruce Willis (c'mon, you know that works)
Butters: David Krumholtz (the guy from Numb3rs)
Vincent: Eric Szmanda (CSI Las Vegas - I've always liked this guy and it works for me, alternatively he could be Fix)
Luccio: (new body): Milla Jovovich
Lash/Lasciel: Ali Larter

and...
Toot: Justin Timberlake (with CGI shrinking - I think perfect!!)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: logarithm.and.blues on April 17, 2010, 09:34:23 PM
Hugh Laurie needs to be a bit younger to be Harry.
Totally Alan Rickman. He and Hugh Laurie need to switch ages. That would work out better.
Totally Bruce Willis. And I would definitely agree with Dave Krumholtz.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CapnCowl on April 17, 2010, 09:52:20 PM
Obviously David Caruso= Harry.



*Start of Fool Moon*

Murphy: The vic was partially eaten, and there's a large canine footprint near the window.

Harry: Looks like this killer was hungry *puts on shades* like the wolf.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c)




*White Night*

Thomas: Harry! Run! There's a giant purple flying chimp behind you!

Harry: Start the car. We don't have time to *puts on shades* monkey around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c)




*Small Favor*

Molly: Those goat-things were scary!

Harry: Personally, I found them to be a little *puts on shades* gruff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 17, 2010, 09:58:01 PM
Toatlly for sanya, same with nicodemus. and hell yeah with morgan. but i think hugh laurie is too old, and i cant see russel crowe as kincaid, why? cause he has that level of badass and he also is funny, well he is to me,and i cant see russel doing that, but i can see john travolta doing it if he looked like he did and acted like he did in pulp fiction. i actually agree with a lot of these, but i think viggo would be a better michael, and i dont know if anyone else said thiss, but i got to, thomas:brad pitt, but playing it like he did in Burn after reading, just not as over the top, know what more fight clubbish.

Their are to people i can see playing harry other then the tv show dude, hugh jackman, or paul bettany
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on April 17, 2010, 10:33:17 PM
And here's another possible Thomas pose by Mr. Bomer:
http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/2442946/matt-bomer-white-suit-02/

White suit just "suits" him. ;)

*waves her Matt Bomer for Thomas campaign flags high over the chatroom*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 18, 2010, 05:20:23 AM
Obviously David Caruso= Harry.



*Start of Fool Moon*

Murphy: The vic was partially eaten, and there's a large canine footprint near the window.

Harry: Looks like this killer was hungry *puts on shades* like the wolf.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c)




*White Night*

Thomas: Harry! Run! There's a giant purple flying chimp behind you!

Harry: Start the car. We don't have time to *puts on shades* monkey around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c)




*Small Favor*

Molly: Those goat-things were scary!

Harry: Personally, I found them to be a little *puts on shades* gruff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c)
okay, that made me lol :p
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ltmcc13 on April 19, 2010, 08:03:11 AM
Ok I've been lurking for awhile and finally decided to join and put my 2 cents in. The fact that I've picked such a contraversial subject to get my feet wet means I'm either crazy,stupid or both, but here goes:

Harry:Timothy Olyphant
Murphy:Elizabeth Rohm
Thomas:Alex O'Loughlin
Susan:Shannyn Sossamon
Luccio/Ana:Claudia Christenson/Mila Kunis
Morgan:Kevin Mckidd
Ivy:Ellie Fanning
Kincaid: Ray Stevenson
Mab:Julie Benz
Lea:Nicole Kidman
Maeve:Amanda Sayfreid
Lara:Rhona Mitra
Lilly:Yavonne Strohavinski
Fix:Nick Stahl
Molly:teenager-Dakota Fanning,young adult-Elisha Cuthbert
Micheal:Kyle Chandler
Charity:Elizabeth Mitchell
Rawlins:Ernie Hudson
Butters:Ian gomez
Sheila/Lash:Amanda Peet/Tricia Helfer
Eb McCoy:Sam Elliot
The Merlin:Donald Sutherland
Bianca:Stana Katic
Marcone:Viggo Mortensen
Gard:Stephanie March
Margaret Lafey:Carla Gugino

I realize that Liam Neeson didn't make it on my list, while he was on everyone else's, because after reading "Changes" I can only see him in one role. He'd look really cool with an eyepatch. :) And that's my dream cast for the Dresdenverse(goes and puts on his Nomex undies for the inevetable flames coming his way)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on April 19, 2010, 05:10:11 PM
Edward Norton for Tilly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: draganmathair on April 19, 2010, 09:35:18 PM
I watched the TV show first so I can not do this, as all I can see are the TV actors.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Seiya234 on April 20, 2010, 04:09:05 AM
When I think of Mab, she sounds like Shara Worden. Here's a sound clip from YouTube.

The song is "The Queen's Rebuke/The Crossing" by the Decemberists. Shara sings the part of an evil faerie queen. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpltQ5S4xxc
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on April 20, 2010, 04:18:46 AM
Martha Liberty - Whoopie FTW!
Merlin - Ian Mckellen, or Christopher Lee
Peabody - Brad Dourif, He played Grima Wormtouge in Two Towers
Gate Keeper - Keith David, he does the voice acting for The Arbiter in Halo 2 and 3, and Captain Anderson in Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2, General Kimsy in Armegeddon, among other things. A little short at 6'2, dark skinned, deep voice little over 50
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on April 20, 2010, 04:26:31 AM
Oprah could work for Martha too... if you had the universes largest movie budget... lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 20, 2010, 10:58:55 AM
Oprah could work for Martha too... if you had the universes largest movie budget... lol

Good Heavens no!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on April 20, 2010, 06:38:40 PM
I have been reading this and figured I would toss my 2cents too.  A lot of people have some great choices!  Here are some of mine.

Harry Dresden - No idea. 
The character in my head will always be the best.  I was good with the casting of Paul Blackthorne though.  He really did act like Harry.

Karrin Murphy – Katee Sackoff
http://www.universal-playback.com/assets/images/0000/6086/katee-sackhoff-as-starbuck-in-battlestar-gallactica.jpg
Of course, I think she is too tall for Murphy, but she’s the right age.

Thomas Raith – Jamie Bamber
http://www.zap2it.com/media/photo/2008-03/37337290.jpg
I have always imagined him in my head for Thomas -- it's a BSG thing (*blush*).  But Matthew Bomer is a great cast idea too!  I can see that also.

Lara Raith -Famke Janssen
http://www.zimbio.com/Famke+Janssen/articles/6E3bET1wMaL/Famke+Janssen
She has the height, looks, age, and range to play Lara Raith.  Granted she could be Queen Mab too.

Will/Billy - Charlie Hunnam
http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/sons-of-anarchy-jacks.jpg
I think he has the right build, although he may be too tall (over 6 feet). 
(Even though I secretly would want Jason Momoa, just so I can see him strip down to become a werewolf, even though he's totally wrong for the part -- hey a girl can dream right? :)  http://www.gateworld.net/news/graphics/atl_s4cast04.jpg )

Michael Carpenter – Nathan Fillion
http://images.glam.com/glampress/entertainment/03_16_09/nathan_fillion.jpg
I’ve always pictured him in my head when I read the books.

Charity Carpenter - Amanda Tappings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Tapping
I don’t know why but she has always been Charity to me.  Amanda is super tall (5’9-10).  Right age and can you see her storming Arctis Tor in chain mail!

Molly Carpenter – Jessica Brooks
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1140434/
Molly in my head looks alot like this girl. Although she may be too old now (age 29), although she would work as Lucio in the new body.

Susan Rodriguez - Erica Cerra
http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Erica-Cerra1.jpg
Even Jim Butcher has said this is Susan to him.  I have to agree!

Sanya - Chiwetel Ejiofor
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0252230/
Hands down! He has always been who I thought of for Sanya.

Lash/Lasiel – Anna Torv
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YPCf8JFgUdI/SWextxoDfzI/AAAAAAAAKQE/26so50gvXb8/s576/Fringe_Anna_Torv1t.jp
Or she could be Murphy too, again…maybe too tall, but the age is right

Donald Morgan -Rade Serbedzija
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0784884/
It's almost uncanning how he looks like the description.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cymbaline on April 21, 2010, 10:00:32 AM
Don't know if anyone has mentioned him before, but I'm picturing this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE)
as Sanya.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on April 21, 2010, 12:55:44 PM
Well, that just made my day.... purrrr!  Yeah, he's Sanya!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on April 21, 2010, 05:10:53 PM
You know, Honestly for Hendricks, you could just say <Insert generic white wrestling star here>

And for Bob's voice, Jack Nicholson, Robin Williams, Will Smith would probably be able to do it really well too...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 21, 2010, 05:16:04 PM
Don't know if anyone has mentioned him before, but I'm picturing this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE)
as Sanya.

Those commercials are some of my favorites of the last several months.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 22, 2010, 01:35:55 AM
Don't know if anyone has mentioned him before, but I'm picturing this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE)
as Sanya.

Five minutes later, I haven't stopped laughing.  I love those ads, and this ads yet another dimension of hilarity!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 22, 2010, 01:44:39 AM
Changes spoilers:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Uilos on April 22, 2010, 01:51:29 AM
Changes spoilers:

(click to show/hide)

can't


stop


laughing!


Ok, I found one that may be interesting, but Stepehn Farrelly, a WWE wrestler, would make a decent Hendricks:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Este_es_Sheamus.jpg/450px-Este_es_Sheamus.jpg)

Chop that hair down and remove the beard, you got Cujo incarnate :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 22, 2010, 02:06:13 AM
YOU MADE ME IMAGINE HENDRICKS IN BOXING UNDEROOS.

I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THIS.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Myyrdn Eopia on April 22, 2010, 02:20:59 AM
ROFLMAO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: iago on April 22, 2010, 02:21:08 AM
YOU MADE ME IMAGINE HENDRICKS IN BOXING UNDEROOS.

I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THIS.

That's what he wears during his time off. With Gard. In her Princess Leia bikini.

What?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 22, 2010, 02:31:22 AM
*brain bubbles out of ears*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 22, 2010, 02:36:41 AM

Will/Billy - Charlie Hunnam
http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/sons-of-anarchy-jacks.jpg
I think he has the right build, although he may be too tall (over 6 feet). 


Oddly, I actually see more of Kincaid in him than Will, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Uilos on April 22, 2010, 02:37:38 AM
*brain bubbles out of ears*

I do believe our job is done here, Fred. Now I figure she's got 10 more minutes until she reboots and Eyebrows the general area on reflex
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 22, 2010, 02:42:43 AM
I do believe our job is done here, Fred. Now I figure she's got 10 more minutes until she reboots and Eyebrows the general area on reflex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djZFHTa6TfA
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lionheart on April 22, 2010, 02:44:16 AM
wow I will never be able to burn this image out of my mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Uilos on April 22, 2010, 02:45:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djZFHTa6TfA

....my car was on that planet...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on April 22, 2010, 02:48:23 AM
(http://www.malemodel.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/joseph-pearson-male-model-12-150x150.jpg) Joseph Pearson as Sanya.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 22, 2010, 02:56:11 AM
...I'll be in my bunk.  And so will he.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mickey Finn on April 22, 2010, 03:50:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djZFHTa6TfA

This allows me to say "Random weird helmet officer No 5" again.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on April 22, 2010, 04:18:47 AM
I still see Whoopie as the PERFECT Martha Liberty. Especially in this scene...

The first was a woman better than six feet tall. She wore her grey hair coiled
in a net at the base of her neck. She had already put on her robes of office,
black silk nearly the same color as her skin, and her purple stole echoed the
gems at her throat. Her eyebrows were still dark, and she had one of them
arched as she regarded Ebenezar, then me, with a completely unamused
expression. When she spoke, her voice was a low, rich alto. "Lollygagging
skunkwallows?"
"Matty—" Ebenezar began, laughter still flavoring his words. "You know how
I get when I'm talking about Council politics."
"Don't you 'Matty' me, Ebenezar McCoy," she snapped. She looked past my
old mentor to focus on me. "Wizard Dresden, I am less than amused with
your lack of respect toward the White Council."
I lifted my chin and glared down at the woman without meeting her eyes. It's
a tough trick to learn, but if
you're motivated enough you can do it. "That's a coincidence. I'm not terribly
amused with you spying on me."
The black woman's eyes flashed, but Ebenezar cut in before either of us could
gather any more steam. "Harry Dresden," he said dryly, "Meet Martha
Liberty."
She shot him a look and said pointedly, "He's arrogant, Ebenezar.
Dangerous."
I snorted. "That's every wizard ever."
Martha continued as if I hadn't spoken. "Bitter. Angry. Obsessive."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on April 22, 2010, 04:23:20 AM
How about Tyrese for Sanya?

(http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Tyrese-jr01.jpg)

He's got the whole troubled past look going.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on April 22, 2010, 04:53:50 AM
Um. No. I like the Old Spice Guy.

Priscellie, when you're done with him, would you send him to a resort to rest for a week, please? I'll pick him up there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on April 22, 2010, 01:49:11 PM
Will/Billy - Charlie Hunnam
http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/sons-of-anarchy-jacks.jpg
I think he has the right build, although he may be too tall (over 6 feet). 

Oddly, I actually see more of Kincaid in him than Will, lol.

Oh yeah!  Totally!  And he's got the British accent to boot! 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Grim on April 23, 2010, 12:28:33 PM
Since there was mention of Sanya and Old Spice commercials, thought I had to just jump in with this:

Sanya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on April 23, 2010, 02:57:42 PM
Oooookay then....  averts eyes from guy in commercial and walks away slowwwwly and nonchalantly.  *ROTFLMAO*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 23, 2010, 04:15:20 PM
Since there was mention of Sanya and Old Spice commercials, thought I had to just jump in with this:

Sanya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k)

WHAT THE HELL?  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on April 23, 2010, 04:51:30 PM
LMAO!
P,p,p,p,p,Poweeeeeeeeeer!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 23, 2010, 04:52:36 PM
Since there was mention of Sanya and Old Spice commercials, thought I had to just jump in with this:

Sanya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k)

LMAO. OMG, this guy freaks me out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 23, 2010, 06:07:44 PM
I hereby declare that those should be the only commercials ever aired, ever again.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 23, 2010, 07:21:23 PM
Now I think the voice is wrong, but the guy who plays Sam Winchester on Supernatural looks like the US Cover art picture of Dresden. Add the fact that he is 6'4" and he actually dwarfs most other actors and that he is the appropriate age to play Dresden in Stormfront and I really like him for Harry.

(http://reneesbookaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/changes.jpg)

(http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/rsz/434/x/x/x/medias/nmedia/18/35/84/18/18687923.jpg)

(http://img1.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n28/n141912.jpg)

(http://media.knin.com/images/knin_supernatural_cast.jpg)

(http://i43.tower.com/images/mm112217092/turn-coat-novel-dresden-files-jim-butcher-hardcover-cover-art.jpg)

(http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/sam-winchester.jpg)



(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Gw5PoDJO9lM/SN6OUSjQfcI/AAAAAAAABQc/575mkugmQLE/s400/supernatural.jpg)

Wanted to give a few examples.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 23, 2010, 07:27:37 PM
I dunno... He's young for it, though maybe not for "Storm Front" Harry.  But every time I look at him, I see Dean from Gilmore Girls.  Like, he'll be in the movie version, walking down the streets of Chicago in his trench, and I'll be thinking, "Shouldn't you be stocking the corn starch at Doose's?"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 23, 2010, 07:40:06 PM
Haven't watched gilmore girls but just started watching supernatural and caught up through 4 seasons and I can't help thinking he'd make a good dresden every time I watch an episode. Especially with his character starting down the darkside.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 23, 2010, 07:46:23 PM
im ify on him, i mean sure he is the right height and looks like harry a little bit, but he is young, good for early harry, but i cant see that guy being a smart ass. then again i only saw one episode of supernatural
really in my mind their are only two people i can see playing harry, sure they are getting a little older, but they would be great for DM up, paul bettany and hugh jackman, and again ify on hugh. most people say wtf paul?, but ive seen him in a couple movies where he wheres a big trench and is all bad ass and he does funny well, if anyone saw him inkheart, well thats how i see harry,except you know with black hair. but that dude would work too, if he can be funny, he looks the part so i would say yeah if he can be funny
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 23, 2010, 08:01:29 PM
He's had flashes of funny but the character is not necressarily all that funny. A good actor should be able to play different types of characters though and that is why these casting choices we often make are pretty limited. We assume that an actor can not play a character a certain way.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 23, 2010, 08:09:14 PM
A good point, i have not seen him in enough things really to tell, but he does look the part i suppose
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 23, 2010, 11:31:46 PM
Now I think the voice is wrong, but the guy who plays Sam Winchester on Supernatural looks like the US Cover art picture of Dresden. Add the fact that he is 6'4" and he actually dwarfs most other actors and that he is the appropriate age to play Dresden in Stormfront and I really like him for Harry.


Jared Padelecki is adorable! I can't see him as ever playing Harry, but yeah, he does have most of Harry's attributes down pat. And if anyone has purchased Welcome to The Jungle, and is also an obsessive fan of Supernatural, your eyes will bug out at the sight the Harry on the cover of the hardback novel. The artist seems to have used Jared's image as a basis for Harry.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 23, 2010, 11:59:50 PM

Jared Padelecki is adorable! I can't see him as ever playing Harry, but yeah, he does have most of Harry's attributes down pat. And if anyone has purchased Welcome to The Jungle, and is also an obsessive fan of Supernatural, your eyes will bug out at the sight the Harry on the cover of the hardback novel. The artist seems to have used Jared's image as a basis for Harry.




Here's the cover art, she is talking about:

(http://eplteen.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dresden1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 12:04:12 AM

Here's the cover art, she is talking about:

(http://eplteen.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dresden1.jpg)

Yup, that's it! Kinda eerie, isn't it?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 24, 2010, 12:26:03 AM
Yup, that's it! Kinda eerie, isn't it?

it's the hair that makes it similar, imho.

jared *might* do good snark. I think he can.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 24, 2010, 01:15:33 AM
When his hair is slicked back and looks short, it looks pretty similar to comic Harry, too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on April 24, 2010, 02:05:17 AM





Here's the cover art, she is talking about:

(http://eplteen.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dresden1.jpg)
reminds me more of ashton kutcher, when he's more scruufy. i saw a little bit of the butterfly effect , and thought he could pull off  a good scowl with those eyes, but he's always in roles of the goofy guy.

(http://images.movie-gazette.com/gallery/albums/People/ashton+kutcher.jpg)

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1666488832/nm0005110
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on April 24, 2010, 02:26:02 AM
I think if Ashton Kutcher was ever even rumored to be involved in a Dresden movie an 'accident' would have to be arranged...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on April 24, 2010, 02:27:56 AM
lol i don't want himto star, he's just what that cover reminded me of. i don't even like him as an actor
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 02:56:00 AM


reminds me more of ashton kutcher, when he's more scruufy. i saw a little bit of the butterfly effect , and thought he could pull off  a good scowl with those eyes, but he's always in roles of the goofy guy.

(http://images.movie-gazette.com/gallery/albums/People/ashton+kutcher.jpg)

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1666488832/nm0005110


Yick, no :( A million times no!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 24, 2010, 03:32:42 AM

Yick, no :( A million times no!

Agreed. Harry in no way looks...for lack of a better term...effeminate. As girly as the Sam character can seem in Supernatural (no offense ladies or Murph!), he can come off as a hard ass and the square-jawed look always screams manly. I juts saw a show this weekend how George Washington took pains to appear more square jawed bc it makes people think that you have more leader and tough guy qualities.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 03:41:47 AM
Agreed. Harry in no way looks...for lack of a better term...effeminate. As girly as the Sam character can seem in Supernatural (no offense ladies or Murph!), he can come off as a hard ass and the square-jawed look always screams manly.

Despite the Dean character's many continuous attempts to prove his brother otherwise :)

Quote
I juts saw a show this weekend how George Washington took pains to appear more square jawed bc it makes people think that you have more leader and tough guy qualities.

Was it on the History Channel? They did a special a while back on life and death masks (heh. no kidding) of influential figures in history, like Lincoln, Washington and Shakespeare. When they did Washington's, they actually narrowed down how many teeth he actually had left and what sort of dentures he wore when he had his life mask done.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 03:55:13 AM
And streaming off from the last thing I posted on, this might be a little out there, but I'm reading a fanfic (that is agonizingly slow in updating). It's a crossover between Supernatural and the DV, with spoilers up to season 5, and Turn Coat (I think.) Anyway, the chick writing the story has a banner made, with a picture of Jared Padelecki, Jensen Ackles, and Hugh Jackman.... because apparently, Hugh Jackman is who she sees when she thinks of Harry.

A bit of a stretch there, or no?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dilking on April 24, 2010, 04:01:57 AM
After seeing him in "The Prestige", I can definitely see him as Harry, but the tough part would be casting Thomas... Who looks like Hugh Jackman's brother in Hollywood today?


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 04:12:30 AM
After seeing him in "The Prestige", I can definitely see him as Harry, but the tough part would be casting Thomas... Who looks like Hugh Jackman's brother in Hollywood today?




Bloody hell. I'm gonna find a pic of hugh jackman and run a facial recognition thingy on myheritage.com. who knows, I might luck out :)

(Although for some reason, Keith Urban just popped into my head)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 04:19:08 AM
After seeing him in "The Prestige", I can definitely see him as Harry, but the tough part would be casting Thomas... Who looks like Hugh Jackman's brother in Hollywood today?

Quote
Bloody hell. I'm gonna find a pic of hugh jackman and run a facial recognition thingy on myheritage.com. who knows, I might luck out :)

(Although for some reason, Keith Urban just popped into my head)

Well. I tried. This is what I got. Although if you use any different image any number of times, you'll get a million different things.

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/collage.jpg?t=1272083043)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 24, 2010, 04:42:07 AM

Was it on the History Channel? They did a special a while back on life and death masks (heh. no kidding) of influential figures in history, like Lincoln, Washington and Shakespeare. When they did Washington's, they actually narrowed down how many teeth he actually had left and what sort of dentures he wore when he had his life mask done.


Yep, that was the show I watched.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dilking on April 24, 2010, 04:49:14 AM
Well. I tried. This is what I got. Although if you use any different image any number of times, you'll get a million different things.

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/collage.jpg?t=1272083043)

NOOO!!! Edward Norton can't be Thomas!! He's supposed to be John Taylor in the Nightside series!!! (By Simon R. Green, my companion series to The Dresden Files) ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 05:27:05 AM
NOOO!!! Edward Norton can't be Thomas!! He's supposed to be John Taylor in the Nightside series!!! (By Simon R. Green, my companion series to The Dresden Files) ;D

Then I suggest typing "Hugh Jackman and Keith Urban" into a search engine, preferably Google. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 24, 2010, 12:22:34 PM
Neil Diamond as Thomas is HILARIOUS.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 02:38:13 PM
Neil Diamond as Thomas is HILARIOUS.

*snort* I just find it hilarious that the facial recognition thingy matched Hugh Jackman to Hugh Jackman 100% :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 24, 2010, 02:53:39 PM
Well if I can't have Paul Blackthorne as Harry, I'm going back to Ryan Reynolds.  He used to be the voice in my head before the TV show.  I could just hear him doing the snark.

I mean this Ryan Reynolds:(http://ithinkimdying.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/ryan_reynolds.jpg)
Not so much this Ryan Reynolds:(http://dietrichthrall.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/ryanreynolds.jpg)

He de-buffs quickly between movies, at least.  Which is kind of a shame 'cause DAYUM, Ryan...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 03:02:53 PM
Well if I can't have Paul Blackthorne as Harry, I'm going back to Ryan Reynolds.  He used to be the voice in my head before the TV show.  I could just hear him doing the snark.


I could go with that. Not because he might prove a very cool Harry, but because he's just really pretty to look at. LOL. I always imagined Harry a little scruffier, though, so he'd have to really let his hair grow out and let that five o'clock shadow come in.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 24, 2010, 03:26:09 PM
Well if I can't have Paul Blackthorne as Harry, I'm going back to Ryan Reynolds.  He used to be the voice in my head before the TV show.  I could just hear him doing the snark.

I mean this Ryan Reynolds:(http://ithinkimdying.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/ryan_reynolds.jpg)

Wow.  He looks a great deal like comicverse Harry!  I've never seen him act (except perhaps on the X-Files and Sabrina the Teenage Witch back in the mid-90s), so I reserve judgment until I see him in Green Lantern. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 03:33:58 PM
Wow.  He looks a great deal like comicverse Harry!  I've never seen him act (except perhaps on the X-Files and Sabrina the Teenage Witch back in the mid-90s), so I reserve judgment until I see him in Green Lantern. :D

Priscellie, he was Wade Wilson/Deadpool in Wolverine, and he was in Blade Trinity :) .... Not to mention about a million other movies that I need to sit my butt down to watch over again really soon!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 24, 2010, 03:37:47 PM
Priscellie, he was Wade Wilson/Deadpool in Wolverine, and he was in Blade Trinity :) .... Not to mention about a million other movies that I need to sit my butt down to watch over again really soon!

Yup.  His IMDB page is a whole lot of stuff I wasn't terribly interested in seeing. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 03:53:31 PM
Yup.  His IMDB page is a whole lot of stuff I wasn't terribly interested in seeing. :D

Well, a lot of his stuff before recently was pretty much aimed at college slackers and fraternities :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 24, 2010, 04:01:25 PM
Huh, he DOES look alot like comic harry, and he can do snark really good, he was great wiseass in  wolverine, he actually would not bother me if he was harry, just needs to get his hair a wee bit longer  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thanatos on April 25, 2010, 11:52:30 AM
I tend to imagine Jamey Sheridan (Randall Flagg from The Stand) as Nicodemus.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 25, 2010, 03:01:38 PM
I can see that actually, i see someone like sean bean or jeremy irons, sure they get type cast as villans but they do it well
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 25, 2010, 03:10:48 PM
I keep seeing the dude who played Imhotep in The Mummy as the Red King.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 25, 2010, 03:19:08 PM
dude! yeah i can totaly see that
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on April 25, 2010, 09:53:10 PM
i still say

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k186/Smallzworld/Sylar.jpg) = harry.

 c'mon its like the perfect storm of geek and grumpy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 25, 2010, 10:04:07 PM
Not an attack on anyone's choices but I don't get how anyone could vote for someone under 6'4" for Harry. I'm decently tall myself and there is a world of difference in being tall vs. average height and it is such a big part of the HArry character that I do not get how anyone could want someone not close to the height.

With 6'4", you could still have inserts to get the character to about 6'5" to 6'6" especially with boots which fits his description better. The height is an important part to me because being tall affects your personality in ways.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 25, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
they can do it be the way they shoot it, if the camera guy's cant make people look tall, a lot of people in holywood wouldnt have a career, the height is important, they would still have to be about six 2 to pull it off, but its doable with a short person.It's a shame robert downey jr. is so short, he would make a great dresden, sure he might be pretty, but a lot of makeup and not working out and he would be fine.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 26, 2010, 12:18:02 AM
they can do it be the way they shoot it, if the camera guy's cant make people look tall, a lot of people in holywood wouldnt have a career, the height is important, they would still have to be about six 2 to pull it off, but its doable with a short person.It's a shame robert downey jr. is so short, he would make a great dresden, sure he might be pretty, but a lot of makeup and not working out and he would be fine.

Harry runs, and he mentioned in Changes that he used to go to the gym. Not to mention his and Murphy's teasing at the very end of the book about the fact that he does work out. Harry may not have Thomas's perfect supernatural physique, but he IS built.

The camera angling thing is a good point, though, it's how they made John Rhys-Davies, Sean Astin, Elijah Wood, Dominic Monaghan and Billy Boyd look so small in comparison to the other actors in The Lord of The Rings.

But I think I agree that it would have to be an actor who is already at least 6'3" or higher. Whoever plays Karrin (I imagine her to be my height, which is 5 feet even) has to be able to crane her neck up and risk neck injury looking at him, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 26, 2010, 01:53:08 AM
lol,thats how i imagine murph, the reason i was atracted to robert being harry is because of the singing detective, and kiss kiss bang bang
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bwleon7 on April 26, 2010, 02:33:51 AM
While I think Hugh Jackman could do it I also have to consider the fact that I very much want thre to be multiple Dersden movies. With that in mind I do think someone 35 or under should take the role. if Dresden files follows the pattern of 3 movies that many seem to be doing then we are looking at about 6 - 8 years  of aging that the actor will have had by the third movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 26, 2010, 02:42:23 AM
While I think Hugh Jackman could do it I also have to consider the fact that I very much want thre to be multiple Dersden movies. With that in mind I do think someone 35 or under should take the role. if Dresden files follows the pattern of 3 movies that many seem to be doing then we are looking at about 6 - 8 years  of aging that the actor will have had by the third movie.

Quick! Everyone start looking for the next big star! And by big, I mean obscenely tall!

.... I should probably mention young, too, shouldn't I?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 26, 2010, 03:26:17 AM
Quick! Everyone start looking for the next big star! And by big, I mean obscenely tall!

.... I should probably mention young, too, shouldn't I?


Which would make Jared a good choice then, eh...?  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 26, 2010, 03:43:40 AM

Which would make Jared a good choice then, eh...?  ;D

Absolutely! And since he and Jensen Ackles actually look alike and play brothers, and Jensen's shorter and older (and prettier, IMO. I love Jared, but I'm a total Jensen girl.), then Jensen can be Thomas. He just needs to grow his hair out longer and dye it pitch black.

That shouldn't actually be a problem for him. Check out this picture:

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/jensen_10InchHero.jpg?t=1272253285)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 26, 2010, 04:02:14 AM
Absolutely! And since he and Jensen Ackles actually look alike and play brothers, and Jensen's shorter and older (and prettier, IMO. I love Jared, but I'm a total Jensen girl.), then Jensen can be Thomas. He just needs to grow his hair out longer and dye it pitch black.

That shouldn't actually be a problem for him. Check out this picture:

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/jensen_10InchHero.jpg?t=1272253285)


I like that idea. Jensen is about 6-6'1" it claims on imdb (though he looks more like 5'10" next to Jared. They are best friends in real life so that brotherly comradeship should be natural and we know Jensen is good at snark already (Dean is my fave character on Supernatural too being an older brother myself). I like how you think, Tiny!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 26, 2010, 04:12:33 AM

I like that idea. Jensen is about 6-6'1" it claims on imdb (though he looks more like 5'10" next to Jared. They are best friends in real life so that brotherly comradeship should be natural and we know Jensen is good at snark already (Dean is my fave character on Supernatural too being an older brother myself). I like how you think, Tiny!

*bows* Thank you, than you :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: draganmathair on April 26, 2010, 07:09:21 PM
I dunno... He's young for it, though maybe not for "Storm Front" Harry.  But every time I look at him, I see Dean from Gilmore Girls.  Like, he'll be in the movie version, walking down the streets of Chicago in his trench, and I'll be thinking, "Shouldn't you be stocking the corn starch at Doose's?"

Yep. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on May 04, 2010, 04:51:50 PM
To continue with  my casting... my hubby came up with a few too.

Lea - Diana Lane
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000178/
**She has to be a little older, but still beautiful.  Diana Lane...meow!

Queen Mab - Monica Bellucci
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000899/
**She also has to be a little be older, but UNBELIEVEABLE STRIKING! (I'm a woman and Monica could get me to do whatever she wants! Wow!)

Waldo Butters - Evan Handler
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0359577/
** He's pretty much who I see as Butters.  The right age and height too.

Michael Carpenter - Aaron Eckhart
http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/a/aaron_eckhart/thumbnails/tn2_aaron_eckhart_2.jpg
**My hubby thinks if he couldn't get Nathan Fillon for Michael, he would cast Aaron Eckhart.  I could see it too.

Charity Carpenter - Mary McCormack
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005203/
**My hubby likes her for Charity.  I can see that too.  She tough and tall, well 5'8ish.  I think Amanda Tapping is taller.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 04, 2010, 05:40:13 PM

Charity Carpenter - Mary McCormack
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005203/
**My hubby likes her for Charity.  I can see that too.  She tough and tall, well 5'8ish.  I think Amanda Tapping is taller.



Well, Mary's got Harry's description of Charity being Built Like a Brick House down pat :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BtHMv2 on May 05, 2010, 10:28:14 PM
 I don't know if this has already been said, but I've always liked Elisabeth Rohm for Murphy. She was Det. Kate Lockley in Angel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 06, 2010, 12:48:32 AM
I don't know if this has already been said, but I've always liked Elisabeth Rohm for Murphy. She was Det. Kate Lockley in Angel.

I remember her! For anyone who doesn't, here's this:

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/elisabethrohm.jpg?t=1273106855)

She even has Murphy's "Goddammit, Dresden!" look on her face! :D

(p.s. the blur in front of her face is the "gun" she was pointing at Angel/Boreanaz/Assface in this shot.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on May 06, 2010, 02:47:34 AM
my choice for murphy...
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/A_F/Da_Dh/DarkBlue/Season1/DarkBlue05.jpg)
nicki aycox. you supernatural fans might recognize her as the original meg
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 06, 2010, 02:53:50 AM
wait, the girl from eliza thornberry?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on May 06, 2010, 03:53:03 AM
wait, the girl from eliza thornberry?

Lacey Chabert? Thats the girl who does the voice of Eliza Thornberry in the Wild Thornberry's... Not sure what brought her up...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 06, 2010, 03:57:18 AM
[nicki aycox. you supernatural fans might recognize her as the original meg
thats waht brought her up, she was the original meg.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on May 06, 2010, 04:02:45 AM
but im not getting the whole eliza thornberry thing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BtHMv2 on May 06, 2010, 01:04:50 PM
I watched 'The Number 23' the other day and thought; "Holy Crap! Jim Carrey would make a pretty good Dresden!"

(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab294/BtHMv2/Random%20Stuff/number23pic3.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on May 06, 2010, 01:25:44 PM
I don't know if this has already been said, but I've always liked Elisabeth Rohm for Murphy. She was Det. Kate Lockley in Angel.

She looks the part and the right age, but I don't think she has the range and is too tall.  I remember her on Law and Order, and she always acted so stiff.  Just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on May 06, 2010, 03:20:39 PM
Quote
but im not getting the whole eliza thornberry thing.

I believe they are confusing the meg from supernatural (a demon who has been played by multiple actresses) with meg griffin from family guy. Meg griffin was origionally voice cast by lacey chabert before mila kunis took over. lacey also did the voice-over work for eliza thornberry.

um...should I say kevin bacon now?

with that I now post the pic that will get lots of guy votes for my murphy choice...
(http://goremasterfx.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/nicki-aycox.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 06, 2010, 03:34:13 PM
See
I would more have gone for Emma Caulfield (even though she is 5'5")

Murphy's supposed to have a gymnast body, not a skinny model body.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 06, 2010, 03:35:38 PM
um...should I say kevin bacon now?


Hah!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 06, 2010, 03:42:47 PM
See
I would more have gone for Emma Caulfield (even though she is 5'5")

Murphy's supposed to have a gymnast body, not a skinny model body.


Well if that's the case then you might as well cast Sarah Michelle Gellar, since she actually has gymnastics, boxing AND martial arts training. She's studied Tae Kwon Do for years (don't know what level she is). She may not have Murphy's passion for aikido, but she's definitely got the gymnast's body, plus she's 5'3".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 06, 2010, 03:45:23 PM
True
and SMG is actually a good actress :)
And the right Age.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 06, 2010, 04:46:46 PM
True
and SMG is actually a good actress :)
And the right Age.


And it's not like she hasn't done the tiny blonde ass-kicking thing before :) Or the supernatural thing. And hell, she might get a kick out of just playing a human police officer who may or may not be spiritually inclined to take up a sword for the White God :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 06, 2010, 04:56:14 PM
Mostly I look at the picture that Hank posted and I'm like.
OMG who is this little girl, someone put some clothes on her. 

Sigh.. I think I got old somewhere.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Stantz on May 06, 2010, 05:59:25 PM
I always thought it would be cool if one of denarians was cast as a polar bear.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on May 07, 2010, 01:59:46 AM
Mostly I look at the picture that Hank posted and I'm like.
OMG who is this little girl, someone put some clothes on her. 

Sigh.. I think I got old somewhere.


I wanted to pull the shirt down.

Let's cast Tom Hanks as Harry!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: deschain19 on May 07, 2010, 02:48:13 AM
dakota fanning as ivy.

she may be a little old now, but she would have been perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on May 07, 2010, 02:50:45 AM
I still say Matt Bomer for Thomas... hands down! <3

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

*swoons and reserves the bunk for a while*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 07, 2010, 03:14:20 AM
I still say Matt Bomer for Thomas... hands down! <3

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

*swoons and reserves the bunk for a while*


YES!!!!! When Priscellie first brought it up, I wasn't sure, but then I got a closer look at him and... wow. just, wow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 07, 2010, 03:21:28 AM
dakota fanning as ivy.

she may be a little old now, but she would have been perfect.

Can she do a British accent without sucking? For that matter, her younger sister looks exactly like her, can she?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sûlien on May 07, 2010, 08:08:52 AM
Dresden:
Joe Flanigan - Not as tall as Harry (but then again, who is?) but DAMN does he look the part.
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Global+Green+USA+3rd+Annual+Pre+Oscar+Party+2Q79jTRyx46l.jpg




I could not agree more with you about casting Joe Flanigan as Harry.  He's got the nonchalance and dead pan snark down pat, plus he definitely has that 'whumpability' that the person portraying Harry has to have.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on May 07, 2010, 01:18:12 PM

I could not agree more with you about casting Joe Flanigan as Harry.  He's got the nonchalance and dead pan snark down pat, plus he definitely has that 'whumpability' that the person portraying Harry has to have.

I agreed too!  I can't believe I totally forgot about Col. Sheppard.  He really is Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ravengood on May 07, 2010, 10:08:04 PM
Gary Oldman could play all of the white male non white court roles by himself...The man is a supremely versatile actor.
He's been a russian, a police leutenant, a sci-fi villian with a western accent, a sci-fi educated villian, a dwarf, Beethoven, and it took me quite a while to recognize him in each role. 
As for the white court males-Johnny Depp... more clean cut than in Pirates...more Finding Neverland with a more modern hairstyle and mode of dress.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 07, 2010, 11:32:39 PM
Gary Oldman could play all of the white male non white court roles by himself...The man is a supremely versatile actor.
He's been a russian, a police leutenant, a sci-fi villian with a western accent, a sci-fi educated villian, a dwarf, Beethoven, and it took me quite a while to recognize him in each role. 

not to mention a world famous vampire! (the kind that doesn't sparkle like a gaudy bauble from the Liz Taylor collection. Dammit, I miss Buffy.)
 
Quote
As for the white court males-Johnny Depp... more clean cut than in Pirates...more Finding Neverland with a more modern hairstyle and mode of dress.

The only problem would be convincing him to take the role. He likes the quirk, and honestly, the WC male vamps are more evil and stupid than evil, morally ambiguous and quirky. Except for Thomas.

I could see him as Kincaid. He'd have to go blonde, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on May 08, 2010, 12:52:38 AM
The only problem would be convincing him to take the role. He likes the quirk, and honestly, the WC male vamps are more evil and stupid than evil, morally ambiguous and quirky. Except for Thomas.

I could see him as Kincaid. He'd have to go blonde, though.


mmmmm Johnny Depp.
that would work. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ravengood on May 08, 2010, 02:45:11 AM
Let's see...
Harry Dresden-Nick Cage or Nathan Fillion
Ebenezar McCoy-Billy Connolly
The Merlin-Christopher Lee
Listens to Wind-Wes Studi
Martha Liberty-Marianne Jean-Baptiste
The Gatekeeper-Ghassan Massoud
Captain Luccio-Judi Dench
Captain Luccio 2.0-Summer Glau
Warden Morgan-Liam Neeson
Warden Ramirez-?
Susan Rodriguez-Salma Hayek
Karrin Murphy-Kathryn Morris
Thomas Raith-Johnny Depp
Lara Raith-Catherine Zeta-Jones
John Marcone-Gary Oldman
Valkyrie Gard-Ali Larter
Cujo Hendricks-?
Michael Carpenter-Russel Crowe
Charity Carpenter-Rebecca Romijn
Molly Carpenter-Laura Vandervoort
Bob-Steve Buscemi
Mac-Adam Baldwin
Sanya-Michael Clarke Duncan
Shiro-Ken Watanabe
Mab-Tilda Swinton (maybe a little Typecasting)
Kincaid-Daniel Craig
Ivy-Dakota Fanning
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 08, 2010, 03:03:23 AM
mmmmm Johnny Depp.
that would work. :D

And, hey, it's not like he hasn't played sniper/badass/crazy-ass gunmen roles before :) Wasn't he in Once Upon A Time in Mexico? And he just finished playing John Dillinger!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 08, 2010, 03:22:06 AM
Dude, the fight in once upon a time in mexico
(click to show/hide)
could totaly see him as kincaid, he would have been a good thomas when he was younger, but now he is to old, i picture him young and pretty.

and you have all got to remeber, johnny depp is the most choicey of actors on earth!!, seriously, turned down titaninc, speed and a bunch of huge movies, he only does it if he likes the character and can seriously explore it
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 08, 2010, 04:14:28 AM
Annnnd since I'm too lazy to keep doing the 'quote' links, I'm just gonna type all my comments inside the quote box.



Let's see...
Harry Dresden-Nick Cage or Nathan Fillion
(yes please!)

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Ebenezar McCoy-Billy Connolly
(I can see this, actually. He was completely badass as Il Duce in The Boondock Saints)

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The Merlin-Christopher Lee
(either him or Sir Ian McKellan. Poor guys are getting typecast, lol.)

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Listens to Wind-Wes Studi
(or Chuck Norris. I'm kidding, I'm kidding :) But seriously, he is part Cherokee... the other part, the Irish part, might throw it off balance...)

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Martha Liberty-Marianne Jean-Baptiste
(have never seen her act, to my knowledge, so I sadly have no opinion here.)

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The Gatekeeper-Ghassan Massoud
(I'm actually very curious about this man. I have never seen him act, but I'm already partially biased because he was born in my mother and father's hometown/country. Another choice would be Oded Fehr. He played Ardeth Bay in the Mummy movies, and Zankou on the 7th season of Charmed.)

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Captain Luccio-Judi Dench

Captain Luccio 2.0-Summer Glau
(Until I know whether Summer Glau has an Italian heritage, I have no opinion, but Judi Dench is British. If she can effect an Italian accent, then I'll go for her.)

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Warden Morgan-Liam Neeson
(eh. I dunno. If he was alive and not a comedian and about two decades younger, I'd say George Carlin. But that's just me.

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Warden Ramirez-?
Esai Morales or Marc Consuelos. Guh. Just... guh.

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Susan Rodriguez-Salma Hayek
(I'd say have Valerie Cruz portray Susan, just for a kick :) She's already portrayed [a version] of Karrin Murphy, she might as well swing the spectrum, lol.)

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Karrin Murphy-Kathryn Morris
(I'm still undecided on who should play Karrin, but I do maintain that they have to be no more than 5'3", no less than 4'10", and that she needs to have martial arts/gymnastics training, but to look like the stereotypical helpless tiny blonde. Murphy in the book is the type of woman that most men will look at and dismiss, only to re-evaluate their opinion of her when she rips them another a**hole.)

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Thomas Raith-Johnny Depp
(I still maintain Matt Bomer for this role! It's all Priscellie's fault! http://lh3.ggpht.com/_4hFVr9y8CFA/SGqkMfLDHoI/AAAAAAAAKZI/lyWAyDaGygA/s640/MatthewBomer01.jpg)

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Lara Raith-Catherine Zeta-Jones
(personally... no. Jones doesn't look like she could have a seedy past as a porn star or be a succubus. Again, that's just my personal thoughts.)

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John Marcone-Gary Oldman
(ZOMG YESSS. I can totally see that. I <3 Gary Oldman.)

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Valkyrie Gard-Ali Larter
(Or Malin Ackerman. She's only 5'7" and a half, but she's about the right age I always thought that Sigrun would look.)

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Cujo Hendricks-?
(*sigh* I think it would take a miracle to find some giant of a muscle-bound man with red hair to portray Hendricks.)

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Michael Carpenter-Russel Crowe
(can't see it.)

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Charity Carpenter-Rebecca Romijn
(Someone mentioned Mary McCormick, actually. I rather like that idea.)

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Molly Carpenter-Laura Vandervoort
(Hmm. Dunno. On another note: Hey, Priscellie, wanna give it a shot?)

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Bob-Steve Buscemi
(Only if he does a British accent... and that's a stretch.)

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Mac-Adam Baldwin
(... do you wanna be the one to tell him to shave his head? :D)

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Sanya-Michael Clarke Duncan
(LOL. I don't think Sanya's quite that big. I'd love to hear him try a Russian accent, though!)

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Shiro-Ken Watanabe
(Mmm.... Ken's a little young to be Shiro. Shiro was an old man when we met him, remember? If he was alive, I'd say Pat Morita. You know. Mr. Miyagi from the Karate Kid movies?)

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Mab-Tilda Swinton (maybe a little Typecasting)
(It may be typecasting, but it's her fault for taking the role of the White Witch in Narnia. You hit it on the money, methinks.)

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Kincaid-Daniel Craig
(Amusingly enough, I had my heart set on Johnny Depp once I got the thought in my head.)

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Ivy-Dakota Fanning
(Well, maybe not Dakota... Dakota's a little old to be portraying a girl who is only currently (at this point in the DV) 13 years old. Maybe her sister Elle, instead?)
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Told ya I was lazy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 08, 2010, 04:15:10 AM
Dude, the fight in once upon a time in mexico
(click to show/hide)
could totaly see him as kincaid, he would have been a good thomas when he was younger, but now he is to old, i picture him young and pretty.

and you have all got to remeber, johnny depp is the most choicey of actors on earth!!, seriously, turned down titaninc, speed and a bunch of huge movies, he only does it if he likes the character and can seriously explore it

Which, as Kincaid, he'd probably go a little nuts with :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: theSandman on May 08, 2010, 10:47:11 AM
some thoughts:

Karrin - Katee Sackhoff (if you've only seen her in BSG you may not agree, watch her Bionic Woman spots or The Sentinel).

Eb McCoy - Brendan Gleeson (28 Days Later, Harry Potter films)

Morgan - Mel Gibson (Braveheart, We Were Soldiers)

Luccio 2.0 - Jessica Biel (Texas Chainsaw Massacre, London)

Michael - Josh Holloway (Lost) or Viggo Mortensen (The Lord of the Rings, A History of Violence)

Butters - Simon Pegg (Star Trek, Shaun of the Dead) or Butters from South Park, you decide.

Marcone - Bill Duke (I know he does not fit the physical description at ALL, but something about the way James Marsters reads Marcone, makes me picture a soft-talking Bill Duke).

Erlking or maybe Kincaid - Alexander Skarsgard (True Blood, Generation Kill)

Sadly, I can think of no actor qualified to play Harry in all respects, so here's a list of some that work for different reasons: James Marsters. No way can he hit the height mark at 5'9", but he kills the soul and voice of Harry. Joe Flanigan from Stargate: Atlantis may have some of the looks/attitude down, but probably not the acting chops or the light-hearted side of Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: matorade on May 08, 2010, 01:15:57 PM
Let's see...
Listens to Wind-Wes Studi
Karrin Murphy-Kathryn Morris
Valkyrie Gard-Ali Larter
Cujo Hendricks-?
Molly Carpenter-Laura Vandervoort
Sanya-Michael Clarke Duncan

Probably it's just me, I was think of somebody along like these:

Listen to Wind-Graham Greene (he may be too old now but since this thread is about "perfect casting" so)
Karrin Murphy-Yvonne Strahovski (she may be too pretty to be Murphy but hell she can kick butt)
Valkyrie Gard-Kristanna Loken
Molly Carpenter-Jordan Hinson
Sanya-Djimon Hounsou (minus the Russian accent)
Cujo Hendricks-Brock Lesner
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on May 08, 2010, 02:59:31 PM
Hendricks ?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Este_es_Sheamus.jpg/200px-Este_es_Sheamus.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 08, 2010, 03:30:11 PM
Hendricks ?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Este_es_Sheamus.jpg/200px-Este_es_Sheamus.jpg)

Wow, that is a frightening man.


... or Viggo Mortensen (The Lord of the Rings, A History of Violence)

*gasp* I can't believe I never even thought of Viggo as Michael! He's soft-spoken, and violent when need be, and the whole way through LoTR, he kept giving off this aura of calm... that sounds pretty much like Michael to me! I vote Viggo for Michael Carpenter! Good call, Sandman :)

Of course, with this image, he could nail the role of John Marcone, too...
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/BrandoBardot/greygardens/viggo.jpg?t=1203946713)


Quote
Sadly, I can think of no actor qualified to play Harry in all respects, so here's a list of some that work for different reasons: James Marsters. No way can he hit the height mark at 5'9", but he kills the soul and voice of Harry. Joe Flanigan from Stargate: Atlantis may have some of the looks/attitude down, but probably not the acting chops or the light-hearted side of Harry.

I have never seen Stargate: Atlantis, so I don't really know who Joe Flanigan is... And I heard somewhere that JB originally wanted to have JM audition for Harry on the Syfy show, but James wouldn't leave his kids. (Which is both awwww! :) and Awwwww! :( ) And yeah, his height was definitely an issue, lol. I've heard about ten different accounts, saying he's anywhere from 5'7.5" to 5'11". However, James' hair is naturally afro-ish (you should see pics of him from his high school days -- so funny), so I think that leads to a lot of improper conclusions about his height. He would have had to wear lifts or something to achieve the right height.

This is actually a picture of him with his hair straight (?!)
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/44/240188621_18777fc445.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 08, 2010, 04:25:53 PM
Which, as Kincaid, he'd probably go a little nuts with :D
Yep, who woudnt want to be the mysterious bad ass?

and viggo would be a great michael, and he would be a good macrone, because he was awsome in eastern promsies "you may want to leave" but for some reason, and you probably all think this is crazy, but i always see christopeher lee as macrone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ravengood on May 08, 2010, 06:38:55 PM
Hmm...
Harry Dresden: Nathan Filion-Serenity and Castle show the the underdog and the snark.
Bob-Michael Caine-Dark Knight show the humor.
Thomas 2nd pick: Stuart Townsend already has played the pretty vamp
John Marcone:Gary Oldman -Remember Marcone is described as coming across as a football coach  Not so much sinister
Michael Carpenter:Russel Crowe -he has the build, has the action chops and as far as family acting see Cinderella Man
Shiro-Ken Watanabe- I would say the old Samurai in the Last Samurai but I have never heard him speak...Ken however has some acting chops and can handle the swordplay
Sanya-Must be Michael Clarke Duncan- The description of him with his shirt of in Small Favor and the whole intimidation thing recently He is a very big VERY STRONG MAN
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tzarii on May 08, 2010, 07:17:31 PM
For Kincaid/ Hell Hound: Timothy Roth

For Marcone:  Joe Montaigna (I think thats how its spelled), the guy who does mob boss from the simpsons. 

For Billy:  the Mac guy. 

My 2 cents.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: theSandman on May 08, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
*gasp* I can't believe I never even thought of Viggo as Michael! He's soft-spoken, and violent when need be, and the whole way through LoTR, he kept giving off this aura of calm... that sounds pretty much like Michael to me! I vote Viggo for Michael Carpenter! Good call, Sandman :)

Yeah, I like him for it, too. Just his air of family duty in A History of Violence and his sword fighting in LoTR.


I have never seen Stargate: Atlantis, so I don't really know who Joe Flanigan is... And I heard somewhere that JB originally wanted to have JM audition for Harry on the Syfy show, but James wouldn't leave his kids. (Which is both awwww! :) and Awwwww! :( ) And yeah, his height was definitely an issue, lol. I've heard about ten different accounts, saying he's anywhere from 5'7.5" to 5'11". However, James' hair is naturally afro-ish (you should see pics of him from his high school days -- so funny), so I think that leads to a lot of improper conclusions about his height. He would have had to wear lifts or something to achieve the right height.

I'll do some thumbnails for Joe Flanigan below. Marsters is supposed to be 5'9.5" according to most sources. I think ppl focus to much on the height. If Harry needs to be made tall, a lot of medium height actors could play him and make him appear tall.

Click on thumbnails for larger versions.

Joe in black leather for Harry's style:

(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/442/joeflanigan5.th.jpg) (http://img248.imageshack.us/i/joeflanigan5.jpg/)

Joe 2:

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7281/joeflanigan.th.jpg) (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/joeflanigan.jpg/)

Joe 3:

(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6619/joeflanigan99.th.jpg) (http://img85.imageshack.us/i/joeflanigan99.jpg/)


cheers!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 08, 2010, 08:16:46 PM
he would be a good harry, and tim roth would be a good kincaid too. ( and if this ever got made, producers would be happier, because who wants to spend zillions of dolloars on a side character?)
i might have siad this before, but you know the guy that was peter parkers boss in spiderman? he would be a great mac.he used to be in show where he was bald, and i was watching it the other day and was like "wow, he reminds me of mac"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: theSandman on May 09, 2010, 01:49:01 AM
he would be a good harry, and tim roth would be a good kincaid too. ( and if this ever got made, producers would be happier, because who wants to spend zillions of dolloars on a side character?)
i might have siad this before, but you know the guy that was peter parkers boss in spiderman? he would be a great mac.he used to be in show where he was bald, and i was watching it the other day and was like "wow, he reminds me of mac"

The actor you are thinkiing of is JK Simmons. He is a fantastic actor, my favorite role of his is in the recent remake of The Ladykillers. He would be a pretty good choice, actually. I picture a lot of the Dresden characters as actors that don't fit the physical description, but live up to the character's essence. So I admit, I imagine Mac as older than Dresden describes him. I also imagine Karrin as a brunette Katee Sackhoff (who is actually dyed blonde all the time), go figure. But Simmons probably matched Butcher's bill better. 

I dunno about Tim Roth as Kincaid. And I love Tim Roth. I actually think Roth might be good for Nicodemus. My choice for Kincaid is still Alexander Skarsgard. Google him if you don't know him, amazing up and coming actor who would be thrilling to watch as the . . . intense and professional killer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 09, 2010, 02:05:12 AM
Alex would be a pretty good kincaid, and tim a good nico, but i have that spot reserved for gary oldman.
i can picture alex as morgan, espescially after angels and demons

add on: OMG they remade the lady killers! im not sure if i want to kill people or see it!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: theSandman on May 09, 2010, 02:11:37 AM
Alex would be a pretty good kincaid, and tim a good nico, but i have that spot reserved for gary oldman.
i can picture alex as morgan, espescially after angels and demons

add on: OMG they remade the lady killers! im not sure if i want to kill people or see it!

I would say see it. It doesn't feel as cohesive as the original but Simmons knocks it out of the park. Hanks is pretty good, too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 09, 2010, 02:13:12 AM
Sounds good, off to the renting place! oh wait they closed all those shops down except for blockbuster that doesnt have anything, *pouts a little
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: theSandman on May 10, 2010, 12:37:40 AM
So I watched The International last night, and I must say, Clive Owen is probably my new front-runner for the part of Harry. He's a little older for the role, but I think he could nail the attitude and looks. He's also pretty tall (appearing) with most actors in his scenes looking up to him.

By the way, I have always been a fan of his, but didn't really think of this option until after posting here and then seeing him in something.

Yeah, he's my new horse in this race.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on May 10, 2010, 03:54:15 PM
Kevin Spacey is still my Nicodemus.  Though his salary alone would mean the rest of the movie would have to be done by grips carrying cardboard cutouts around.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 10, 2010, 11:16:13 PM
Kevin Spacey is still my Nicodemus.  Though his salary alone would mean the rest of the movie would have to be done by grips carrying cardboard cutouts around.

I can see it now...


Harry: "Fuego!" ::hophophop::
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scarecrow on May 12, 2010, 06:05:40 PM
David Nykl is Butters

http://www.davidnykl.com/2008_pictures/Stargate-Atlantis-Dr-Zelenk.jpg
 (http://www.davidnykl.com/2008_pictures/Stargate-Atlantis-Dr-Zelenk.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 13, 2010, 02:43:16 AM
David Nykl is Butters

http://www.davidnykl.com/2008_pictures/Stargate-Atlantis-Dr-Zelenk.jpg
 (http://www.davidnykl.com/2008_pictures/Stargate-Atlantis-Dr-Zelenk.jpg)

Really? I kinda see David Wenham.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Wenham.jpg/220px-Wenham.jpg)

If he looks familiar at all, that's because he played Faramir in LoTR The Two Towers and The Return of The King, Carl the crazy-ass inventor monk dude from Van Helsing, and Delios from 300.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ursiel on May 13, 2010, 03:33:05 AM
Okay, I'm just weird, so let me just say who I have in mind whenever I'm reading.

Harry: The Harry that's portrayed on the cover of Proven Guilty, when I think of Harry, I always think of that.

Murphy: Gillian Anderson(In this photo at least >.>) (http://www.nicewallpapers.info/pics/Celebrities/gillian-anderson/gillian-anderson_18.jpg)

Ebenezer: I don't know why, but I always imagine Alec Guinness.

Bob: Again, I'm weird, but I always imagined Eric Idle's voice.

As for the other characters, I don't really know of any actors who could fit the part. o-o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 13, 2010, 01:50:06 PM
One of david webnams best films is austraila, it was the first time i saw him play the bad guy, and i guess i can see him as butters, i always saw the main guy from scrubs
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on May 13, 2010, 02:02:40 PM
Don't Know if he has been posted for Harry Timothy Oliphant form Deadwood and Justified for Harry he has the mence and the build.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 13, 2010, 02:05:33 PM

Bob: Again, I'm weird, but I always imagined Eric Idle's voice.


Ooh! I love that idea! Actually, pretty much the voice of any Monty Python-ite would work in this case, I think. I've always loved John Cleese's voice :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dayman on May 13, 2010, 09:31:41 PM
John Cleese could make Bob really funny but for whatever reason I have always thought of Bob as having a younger sounding voice. Is it mentioned that he has a British accent? I don't remember reading that and I am much to far away from my books to double check.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BtHMv2 on May 13, 2010, 09:33:33 PM
Saw Virginia Madsen in something yesterday, I think she'd make a good Murphy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 13, 2010, 10:27:56 PM
John Cleese could make Bob really funny but for whatever reason I have always thought of Bob as having a younger sounding voice. Is it mentioned that he has a British accent? I don't remember reading that and I am much to far away from my books to double check.

Excerpt from Storm Front, the audio book: http://www.jim-butcher.com/books/dresden/1/jm9chocolate1.mp3 (http://www.jim-butcher.com/books/dresden/1/jm9chocolate1.mp3)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dayman on May 13, 2010, 11:10:51 PM
Ok so having Bob with a British accent works but was it mentioned in the books or is this just the way that people interpret him? I only ask so that I can narrow down my choices for who should play him. On a side note has anyone considered Helen Mirren for the role of Luccio's orignal body? I know that she is not Italian but she definatly can play an athority figure as seen in the Queen. And she has some action backround from National Treasure.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 14, 2010, 12:41:56 AM
Just found this listing in a comment on THIS (http://thefaust.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/lets-castthe-dresden-files/) page:


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Harry Dresden – Jared Padalecki
Karrin Murphy – Sarah Michelle Gellar
Donald Morgan – Eric Roberts
Susan Rodriguez- Melina Perez (WWE)
Thomas Raith- Tom Welling
Michael Carpenter- Christian Kane
Bob The Skull- Jeff Goldblum
Johnnie Marcone – Ryan Reynolds
Ebenezar McCoy- Sam Elliott
Lea- Emma Caulfield

Someone is a WB/CW fan :)

The OP of the page has a completely different cast listing. Nathan Fillion's on it -- listed as Michael Carpenter :D I don't agree with a lot of it, though. He/She mentions Clive Owen for the role of Harry, and Cillian Murphy to play Thomas. Personally, years ago, I did a mock-up of a professional wrestler known as John Morrison, as he would look with pale white skin and glossy black hair (which, as his hair is already dark-ish brown, wasn't too hard to do). The picture I used has Morrison looking kinda cocky, but then, before we really got to know Thomas in the books, that's kinda what Harry thought of him, too :)

Here's the before/after I did:

Before
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/morrison3.jpg?t=1273796058)

After
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/morrison2.jpg?t=1273796086)

My after's not very good, lol.

And to the other, the more people mention Sarah Michelle Gellar as playing Karrin Murphy, the more I want to see it happen. Tiny, ass-kicking blonde woman! As far as Christian Kane portraying Michael, I can't really see, but that may be because I'm used to seeing him as the hands-on former Black Ops dude on Leverage. And Sam Elliott as Ebenezar... Yes. I like this. I like this very much.


Ok so having Bob with a British accent works but was it mentioned in the books or is this just the way that people interpret him? I only ask so that I can narrow down my choices for who should play him.

I really don't know. All I know is that James uses an English accent (which makes me swoon) to portray Bob in the books, and Terrence Mann portrayed Bob with an English accent on the show... and Jim didn't say a word about it... unlike the unfortunate attempt to rename Harry "Eric..." So I'm assuming that, if Jim's okay with Bob having an English accent, then that's the way he should be portrayed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ravengood on May 14, 2010, 03:52:51 PM
Let's see... round 3
Harry Dresden- Nathan Fillion
Ebenezar McCoy-Billy Connolly
The Merlin-Christopher Lee
Listens to Wind-Wes Studi-Last of the Mohican’s showed his skill plus I just want to see him do the Shag/LTW duel
Martha Liberty-Marianne Jean-Baptiste-She plays no-nonsense well from Without a trace.
The Gatekeeper-Ghassan Massoud-He did well in Kingdom of Heaven
Captain Luccio-Judi Dench
Corpsetaker/Captain Luccio 2.0-Summer Glau-Is there something that said that she was Italian?  I just know she could handle the oddity of Corpsetaker and still be combat impressive as Luccio 2.0
Warden Morgan-Liam Neeson- after Kingdom of Heaven, Taken, and Batman Begins I think he could handle Morgan
Warden Ramirez-Oscar Jaenada maybe… he’s in the movie The Losers
Susan Rodriguez-Salma Hayek
Karrin Murphy-Kathryn Morris-She looks to be rather petite in Cold Case and she can play the cop well, Pretty enough to be dismissed though
Thomas Raith-Stuart Townsend-already has experience playing the pretty vamp
Lara Raith-Catherine Zeta-Jones
John Marcone-Gary Oldman-supposed to come across as a football coach not mr sinister.
Valkyrie Gard-Ali Larter
Cujo Hendricks-Stellan Skarsgård- after seeing him in King Arthur I think he may do… although otherwise I can’t think of any other red haired guys that could pull it off… Unless maybe just look for someone from the NFL with red hair built like a Sherman tank… It’s not like Cujo has many lines… just has to be able to growl.
Michael Carpenter-Russel Crowe- can handle the action, has the build, and can handle the family aspect
Charity Carpenter-Rebecca Romijn
Molly Carpenter-Laura Vandervoort- she has shown some action ability on Smallville
Bob-Hugh Laurie- just thought of this one…since people want British (he is) and he has the snark and dirty mind of Bob down on House.
Mac-Adam Baldwin- I just can’t think of anyone else who can put as much into as few syllables as he can.
Sanya-Michael Clarke Duncan- the only guy big and strong enough that I could believe the backboard scene with
Shiro-Ken Watanabe- I might say the quiet samurai from the Last Samurai but without having heard him speak don’t know.  But Ken can handle the swordplay.
Mab-Tilda Swinton (maybe a little Typecasting) or possibly
Maeve-Christina Ricci- someone else suggested her but I can see it.
Kincaid-Daniel Craig- can handle the scary action dude.
Ivy-Elle Fanning-Dakota’s little sister could get tips from sis on being the uber creepy little girl
Lea-Amanda Righetti- attractive redhead
Elaine Mallory-Keira Knightly…hmm?
Donner Vadderung-Was thinking maybe Ray Stevenson
Butters-David Krumholtz- not very tall- can play the geeky, quirky genius, Jew as evidenced by Numb3rs.
Forthill-Gerald McRaney
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 14, 2010, 04:15:27 PM
Well, half of those actors i havent ever heard about(summer glau, that dude from the losers. the guy u have as thomas)
And there is only one probablem woth the thomas guy, he is experinced at playing the vampire, not the cool, funny sucbus type vampire.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: logarithm.and.blues on May 14, 2010, 11:29:27 PM
Let's see... round 3
Harry Dresden- Nathan Fillion
Ebenezar McCoy-Billy Connolly
The Merlin-Christopher Lee
Listens to Wind-Wes Studi-Last of the Mohican’s showed his skill plus I just want to see him do the Shag/LTW duel
Martha Liberty-Marianne Jean-Baptiste-She plays no-nonsense well from Without a trace.
The Gatekeeper-Ghassan Massoud-He did well in Kingdom of Heaven
Captain Luccio-Judi Dench
Corpsetaker/Captain Luccio 2.0-Summer Glau-Is there something that said that she was Italian?  I just know she could handle the oddity of Corpsetaker and still be combat impressive as Luccio 2.0
Warden Morgan-Liam Neeson- after Kingdom of Heaven, Taken, and Batman Begins I think he could handle Morgan
Warden Ramirez-Oscar Jaenada maybe… he’s in the movie The Losers
Susan Rodriguez-Salma Hayek
Karrin Murphy-Kathryn Morris-She looks to be rather petite in Cold Case and she can play the cop well, Pretty enough to be dismissed though
Thomas Raith-Stuart Townsend-already has experience playing the pretty vamp
Lara Raith-Catherine Zeta-Jones
John Marcone-Gary Oldman-supposed to come across as a football coach not mr sinister.
Valkyrie Gard-Ali Larter
Cujo Hendricks-Stellan Skarsgård- after seeing him in King Arthur I think he may do… although otherwise I can’t think of any other red haired guys that could pull it off… Unless maybe just look for someone from the NFL with red hair built like a Sherman tank… It’s not like Cujo has many lines… just has to be able to growl.
Michael Carpenter-Russel Crowe- can handle the action, has the build, and can handle the family aspect
Charity Carpenter-Rebecca Romijn
Molly Carpenter-Laura Vandervoort- she has shown some action ability on Smallville
Bob-Hugh Laurie- just thought of this one…since people want British (he is) and he has the snark and dirty mind of Bob down on House.
Mac-Adam Baldwin- I just can’t think of anyone else who can put as much into as few syllables as he can.
Sanya-Michael Clarke Duncan- the only guy big and strong enough that I could believe the backboard scene with
Shiro-Ken Watanabe- I might say the quiet samurai from the Last Samurai but without having heard him speak don’t know.  But Ken can handle the swordplay.
Mab-Tilda Swinton (maybe a little Typecasting) or possibly
Maeve-Christina Ricci- someone else suggested her but I can see it.
Kincaid-Daniel Craig- can handle the scary action dude.
Ivy-Elle Fanning-Dakota’s little sister could get tips from sis on being the uber creepy little girl
Lea-Amanda Righetti- attractive redhead
Elaine Mallory-Keira Knightly…hmm?
Donner Vadderung-Was thinking maybe Ray Stevenson
Butters-David Krumholtz- not very tall- can play the geeky, quirky genius, Jew as evidenced by Numb3rs.
Forthill-Gerald McRaney
I'm just gonna skip around here.
Fillion-totally. he pulled off snark as Mal Reynolds, and he's got the look. sort of.
Chris Lee-seems very Merlin-y to me. he did a good job as saruman. maybe Ian McKellen, too, only because I never envisioned the Merlin with a beard.
Krumholtz-def. Chris Mintz-Plasse, too, possibly.
Daniel Craig-TOTALLY. Kincaid=meaner, more effective version of James Bond.
Adam Baldwin-Eh... he's still Jayne Cobb to me. can't imagine Jayne Cobb as a bartender.
Hugh Laurie-YES.
Salma Hayek-...nah, still like Eva Mendes for looks.
Gary Oldman-...he's still Commissioner Gordon to me. cop to gangster seems weird.
Russell Crowe-maybe.
Laura Vandervoort-possible.
Summer Glau-yep. she can kick ass handily, as seen in Serenity.
Liam Neeson-maybe. I like Jeffrey Dean Morgan for the role.
I say Morgan Freeman for Jake/Uriel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 14, 2010, 11:53:15 PM
Liam Neeson-maybe. I like Jeffrey Dean Morgan for the role.

As Morgan? I CAN SEE THIS.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 17, 2010, 01:13:20 AM
After watching Hot Fuzz and The End of Time, I can only see Timothy Dalton as Nicodemus.
Nathan Fillion might make a good Michael, although the beard might be an issue. I can actually see him as Harry more than Michael.

Bob-John Simms
Shagnasty-Gabriel Wolf (Sutekh in "Pyramids of Mars" and The Beast in "The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h02ktxRsGSs&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h02ktxRsGSs&feature=related) this voice.
 
Erlking-Keith David (voice only, he was the voice of The Arbiter, Anderson in Mass Effect, the Cat in Coraline, and GOLIATH in Gargoyles)
Uriel-Morgan Freeman
Thomas-John Barrowman. The hair might be an issue though.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0057882/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0057882/)

That's all I can think of for now.

EDIT: Actually, David Tennant would make a great Bob.

I think I've been watching too much Doctor Who lately.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 17, 2010, 01:40:54 AM
i had an idea for rashid, all though he is a bit young. oded fehr, you probably know him from the mummy movies and resident evil
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dayman on May 17, 2010, 11:42:35 AM
Is there such a thing as too much Doctor Who? Also Morgan Freeman as Uriel? Lock that up right now! I just reread SmF and every line of his is accompanied by Morgan Freemans voice. They should cast him now and worry about the rest of the movie later.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scarecrow on May 17, 2010, 08:33:34 PM
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i had an idea for rashid, all though he is a bit young. oded fehr, you probably know him from the mummy movies and resident evil

Good plan. Do we ever see Rashid's face clearly?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 17, 2010, 09:56:26 PM
I think so, it was either summer knight or Proven guilty, but i could be horriably wrong. if we havent we proabably will by the time the apoclaypse happens
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 19, 2010, 10:49:10 PM
paul bettany is my dresden, especially after inkheart and knights tale, except he is blond and english, but he can tone it down, and if he is blond it could be like daniel craig and bond
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3449/3265115411_5781542732.jpg)
and so you can see him in a coat, so he is early harryized
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:49GKiGCp3yXX1M:http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Inkheart/paul_bettany_stars_as___dustfinger__in_new_line_cinema_s_inkheart_s.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 20, 2010, 03:49:23 PM
If price were no obstacle, and you could succesful get this many stars to work together, I have put together my ideal Dresden Cast. Some of the ages are a bit off, and some of the characters could fit the look better, but I have taken much consideration on acting talent as well based off similar roles.

There have been some good names I glanced over and many of them could be runner-ups IMO but I also considered relations for my cast. For example, Thomas and Harry need to look like they are related, and Lord Raith would have to look like he could be Thomas' father. Inari and Lara should look like they could be sisters and related to Thomas as well, etc.

Some other good actors that I like (for this kind of movie, most have played fantasy roles):
Kristen Bell, Benecio del Toro, Christopher Waltz, Eric Bana, James Marsters, Liev Schreiber, Kevin Durand, Hugo Weaving, Ian McKellan, Geoffrey Rush, Patrick Stewart, Ewan McGregor, Ralph Fiennes, Willem Dafoe, Liam Neeson, Joaquin Phoenix, Michael Sheen, Russell Crowe, Jude Law, Jeremy Irons, John Malkovich,James McAvoy, etc.

I am sure I could go on forever with good actors that I like, but I also considered the chemistry of the actors. For example someone really famous like Brad Pitt, Keanu Reeves, Johnny Depp, probably wouldn't go over well as a cameo part, albeit I have casted some big hitters for small roles in my fantasy cast, but I was trying to squeeze in my favorites.

Without further adieu my Dresden Cast (pdf):
Male Roles (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANmE2YjkyNTMtMWNhOS00OGNhLWFlNGUtMTQ4YjEzMDg0NGYw&hl=en)
Female Roles (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAMjY4Yzc3NzItN2NmMS00N2M3LWEzMjctNzViNjZjMjg1YmE2&hl=en)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 20, 2010, 03:56:46 PM
I still need a Ms. Gard, Rashid/Gatekeeper, Uriel, Margaret Gwendolyn LeFay McCoy Dresden , Margaret Angelica Dresden,  McAnally, Father Anthony Forthill, Red King, Lord Raith, Martin, The Ordo Lebes, the other Denarius, Madrigal Raith, Tera West, etc.

I wanted to go with C. Lee as Lord Raith but i thought he made a good Merlin too. But Max von Sydow could be a good Merlin alternate.

Paul Bettany already played an Archangel recently maybe he could be my Uriel.

Maybe Cate Blanchett as my Margaret LeFay.

Red King might be tough, i need a hispanic stalky shorter guy that can play crazy and scary, but i already cast Danny Trejo as Injun Joe, maybe I can move him, and cast the guy who plays Billy Black in Twilight as Injun Joe.

Madrigal Raith = Mark Strong. I think would be good for this part.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 20, 2010, 04:02:57 PM
Good plan. Do we ever see Rashid's face clearly?

**SPOILER ALERT**
Yes, Rashid takes his hood off at the island on the dock before Dresden faces the Negloshi (shapeshifter). He has a fake eye, scar, etc. Book 10 or 11, I can't remember now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 20, 2010, 05:21:34 PM
**SPOILER ALERT**
Yes, Rashid takes his hood off at the island on the dock before Dresden faces the Negloshi (shapeshifter). He has a fake eye, scar, etc. Book 10 or 11, I can't remember now.

It would be book 11, first page of Chapter 39.

Quote
     "Wizard Rashid?" I asked.
     The Gatekeeper's staff never wavered as he faced me. He lifted a hand and drew back his hood. His face was long and sharp-featured and weathered like old leather. He wore a short beard that was shot through with silver, and his silver hair was a short, stiff brush. One of his eyes was dark. The other had a pair of horrible old silver scars running though it, from his hairline down to his jaw. The injury had to have ruined his natural eye. It had been replaced with something that looked like a stainless-steel ball bearing. "Indeed," he said calmly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on May 20, 2010, 08:58:01 PM
I like the little girl in this ad for IVY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdetQH_6SWU

She has that young Dakota Fanning vibe and i know people liked DF for the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dryrat on May 21, 2010, 11:44:47 AM
I'm kind of torn between thinking that Hugh Laurie would do serious justice to the role of Harry, and knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that no one could be better as the voice of Bob. (just think of Gregory House saying"that's because you're an idiot")
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 21, 2010, 01:30:56 PM
I'm kind of torn between thinking that Hugh Laurie would do serious justice to the role of Harry, and knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that no one could be better as the voice of Bob. (just think of Gregory House saying"that's because you're an idiot")

I think Hugh Laurie has the look and could pull off the sarcasm, I just don't know if he could pull of badass wizard when the time comes. IMO after seeing Clive Owen in Sin City and Shoot Em Up, I think he could be badass when needed, and from the movie Closer he can play serious as hell and sarcastic.

As far as Bob, if they do only a voice than he probably would be a good choice. But if they were to manifest him like they did in the TV show than I would still go with Eddie Izzard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 21, 2010, 01:34:17 PM
I like the little girl in this ad for IVY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdetQH_6SWU

She has that young Dakota Fanning vibe and i know people liked DF for the role.

Dakota Fanning is old enough now that she could play Molly Carpenter (which is why I cast it that way)

Is the girl in the add a proven actress? The girl i chose for Ivy was in Kick Ass as Hit Girl, and for her age she was an amazing actress, she could easily pull off the fight scene with the Denarius.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 21, 2010, 04:29:12 PM
I have updated my cast and made some rearrangments. My list started off coherent with characters listed in order of significance, but it has sort of become random.

Also I admit the list has become a bit ridiculous because I tried to squeeze in as many major actors and actresses as I could even for small roles that wouldn't really require a big star, but I figure since it's a fake cast anyways, why not get as many as I can in there.

I even casted Cowl and we don't even know who that really is yet, it could be a character that's already been revealed. But like I said, I am really stretching this to get a bunch of big names in.

Go to this thread to find link to updated cast http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18318.70.html (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18318.70.html)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 21, 2010, 04:45:28 PM
I know there is already a thread for a Dresden Files Movie Cast, but it's outdated (except my last few posts).

I wanted to get a fresh take on who should be cast if they were to make a movie or series of movies.


POLL RESULTS AT CLOSE:

Zachary Quinto     - 4 (14.3%)
Lee Pace    - 2 (7.1%)
Ryan Reynolds    - 2 (7.1%)
Hugh Jackman    - 2 (7.1%)
Clive Owen    - 1 (3.6%)
Paul Bettany    - 2 (7.1%)
Timothy Olyphant    - 4 (14.3%)
Nathan Fillion    - 6 (21.4%)
Joe Flanigan    - 1 (3.6%)
Chris Evans    - 1 (3.6%)
Gerard Butler    - 1 (3.6%)
Neil Flynn    - 2 (7.1%)
Jared Padalecki    - 0 (0%)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Knight Disciple on May 21, 2010, 07:07:08 PM
Right, I'll do a post for male characters, then one for femaleedit the gals into this one.

Harry Dresden: Maybe, but he seems a bit old unless we start a ways down the line. I was under the impression Harry was hitting maybe 30 in Storm Front. Clive has some of the look, but looks a bit too mature for what I picture early Harry being.
Michael Carpenter: Hm, maybe. I'd generally pictured Michael being a bit more buff, and with a squarer jaw. Maybe Sean Bean here?  ;)
Bob the Skull: Well, if it's voice-only (which it ought to be, dang it!), I can't say for sure. I'd need an audio clip of him.
Kincaid: Perfect.
Ebenezar McCoy: Perfect.
Warden Morgan: Pretty much perfect. Even/especially if they throw in the scars.  ;D
Johnnie Marcone: Actually, yes. Perfect.
Thomas Raith: You know...I can see it, yes.
Carlos Ramirez: Looks solid, don't know the guy.
Nicodemus: He could get the delivery down, but...he's too old. Nicky boy is supposed to look like he's in his 30's, isn't he?
Hendricks: Perfect.
Sanya: Yeah, I think that works pretty well.
Erlking: Hm...yeah, it works. 8)
Ferrovax: Bean should be Michael, not sure who to put here. Maybe Nighy?
Donar: Eh. I'd pictured someone...older. Maybe Christopher Lee here?
Lloyd Slate: I like it.
Shiro: Perfect.
Fix: Solid choice.
Red King: Eh, maybe. Couldn't hurt to use someone who looks a little younger, no offense to the actor in question.  ;)
Borden: Seems a solid choice.
Lord Raith: I'd put Rickman here. Lee has the charisma, but again, he seems to look a bit old for it. Rickman could give the role some needed vitality (no offense to Mr. Lee).
Mortimer: I dunno. I don't have a good picture in my mind here.
DuMorne: Decent. Part of me hates wasting him in such a small role, though.
Duke Ortega: Perfect.
Waldo Butters: Solid. He might be workable for Mortimer, too.
Madrigal: Good.
Listens to the Wind: Maybe. I pictured him with more grey and wrinkles.
The Merlin: Hm. Possible. Another picture might help.
Uriel: Yeah, I can see it.
Rashid: I'd love it, but....Rashid's of Middle Eastern descent, so I can't really say it feels like a good fit. Possible alternate for The Merlin.
Cowl: Not bad.
Grevane: Oh, I like it, actually.

Edit: Time for the ladies.

Murphy: I can see it. Hopefully she's not too tall. ;)
Ivy: Pretty good.
Molly: I think so. Hopefully she's not too old that she can't "age with the role".
Susan: Decent choice.
Mab: Hm. Maybe...I think Tilda Swinton could work here as well.
Lea: Eh. Not seeing it.
Maeve: Sure.
Aurora: Um...actually, maybe.
Lily: Liking it.
Justine: Very solid pick.
Corpsetaker: Yeah, this seems solid.
Elaine: I think so, yes.
Lash: Heh. Solid.
Mavra: Perfect.
Lara: Hm. Solid, at least.
Bianca: Good.
Inari: Too old.
Ancient Mai: If we lather on the age makeup, maybe.
Ms. Gard: Solid.
Charity: Not really. I think if you swap Janssen and Pfeiffer, it would work better. Pfeiffer would bring a bit more maturity to the role.
Margaret: Actually, yeah, I think this is pretty good.
Tera West: Good.
Tessa: Again, swapping Janssen and Pfeiffer here. Feels like a better fit.
Arianna Ortega: Perfect.
Priscilla: Yeah, I think this is good.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ursiel on May 21, 2010, 07:19:28 PM
I liked most of them except Harry and Thomas. But I don't know of anyone else lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: GreyWarden on May 21, 2010, 07:45:48 PM
I think I saw two actors who actually fit both age and physical description of the characters you wanted them to play.  Sorry, massive amounts of NO.

I don't see enough movies/TV to try casting it, but I can say that I don't see this list as appropriate.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Spectacular Sameth on May 21, 2010, 07:54:50 PM
The more I watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the more I think the guy who plays Angel would make a good Thomas Raith and the guy that plays Giles would make a good Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ghsdkgb on May 21, 2010, 08:02:50 PM
I'd still advocate Michael Clarke Duncan as Marcone. Sure, he's not the right ethnicity, but it's REALLY easy for me to read Marcone's lines in his voice.

I can't see Adrian Pasdar having that same imposing feeling, though he could probably pull off tiger-souled.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Der Sturmbrecher on May 22, 2010, 12:37:31 AM
Somebody should set up one of those elimination brackets for this purpose. Poll the board for their favs for each role, and then face them off "democratically." I'd be interested to see who'd win.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on May 22, 2010, 10:37:12 AM
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Somebody should set up one of those elimination brackets for this purpose.

I concur, but know nothing useful to help achieve it.

As for your choice - the men nail it, i think you got the majority of them perfect. Harry, nic, ferrovax, billy and rashi - maybe, but the rest hit it.
The females - some are exact, but i just get the feeling that there is way too many good looking women around harry with that cast. I mean, i'd always imagined some a bit more realistically good looking, rather than movie star perfect, but the attitudes from what i know match the characters.

I had wondered about Tony Robinson for Bob's voice. HE can have the right combo of intelligent and annoying, but thats just my two cents, helluva lot of work gone in to your choices.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on May 23, 2010, 04:48:24 AM
I think that Vincent Cassel would be the perfect Lord Raith - he brings a whimsical, serial-killer quality smothered in suaveness that suits the character well  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 23, 2010, 04:55:03 AM
I think that Vincent Cassel would be the perfect Lord Raith - he brings a whimsical, serial-killer quality smothered in suaveness that suits the character well  :)

I've seen pictures of him... is it just me, or does he sort of bear a vague resemblance to Jude Law?

On another note, think he can rock a giant honking ruby earring in one ear? (I'm rereading Blood Rites for the millionth time, and have just reached Lord Raith's description in the book. Kinda funny.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 23, 2010, 03:05:14 PM
I forgot about Vincent Cassel, I like that actor. He might be too young looking to pull off Lord Raith though, granted he is a Vampire, but he is also the father of a bunch of offspring, so I picture him looking somewhat older.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 23, 2010, 03:44:57 PM
@ Knight Disciple

I like your suggestions, I think you are correct on all accounts. I have to admit that I went overboard casting some big actors for small parts and also getting some of the ages wrong. I figure since it's fake though why not squeeze them in there.

Harry: Yes, Clive is too old for early Harry.
Michael Carpenter: I did consider Bean for this but I like Viggo so I boosted him up to this role.
Nicodemus: I wanted to put Gary Oldman here actually but I thought Nighy could pull it off too.
Donar: Your absolutely right, I thought about that, but the guy is actually Norweigan so that's why I did it.
Red King: I could think of any other guys except maybe Robert LaSardo, actually LaSardo would be great.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RobertLaSardoTattoo.JPG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RobertLaSardoTattoo.JPG)
Lord Raith: I originally had C Lee as the Merlin, but that wasn't working for me. Rickman could work.
DuMorne: Yeah I kind of wanted Oldman as my Nicodemus.
Rashid: I didn't realize he was Middle Eastern, how about this Oded Fehr http://angelacameron.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/oded-fehr.jpg (http://angelacameron.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/oded-fehr.jpg) too young?

Mab: My logic here was that Belluci could pull of being the mother of M. Fox (as Maeve).
Lea: my reason is Jovovich can pull off a pretty decent CRAZY which is kind of Lea. But the look isn't quite right.
Inari: I thought so too, but she kind of favors Portman so I was going for the sisterly look. Plus Inari is old enough to be a production assistant at a porn studio so that would put her at like maybe 21ish and Knightley is 25, not too far off.
Charity: Agreed. However is Pfeiffer too old to play Viggo or Beans wife? she is in her 50's now.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 23, 2010, 03:47:59 PM
Somebody should set up one of those elimination brackets for this purpose. Poll the board for their favs for each role, and then face them off "democratically." I'd be interested to see who'd win.

A poll is a good idea! Except I can't think of 5 actors to consider for Harry. I will think about it and start a poll. I will review some of the suggestions on the other threads too, though I have already shot down tons of them like Eric Bana, Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman, etc.

Throw me some suggestions for Harry Dresden, then we can trickle it down to other characters. Casting Harry is going to effect how Thomas Raith is cast also, because Thomas is suppose to resemble Harry, except a bit shorter and a better physique of course. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 23, 2010, 07:47:16 PM
I forgot about Vincent Cassel, I like that actor. He might be too young looking to pull off Lord Raith though, granted he is a Vampire, but he is also the father of a bunch of offspring, so I picture him looking somewhat older.

For anyone wondering who it is MoSeS_ and miketh are talking about, this is Vincent Cassel:

(http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/1/d/1dmcs47776gx747m.jpg)

Lord Raith has several centuries on Thomas, Lara and Harry. I would assume, however, that he looks like he's roundabout in his 50s or early 60s which would be just about the right look for a man who's the father of a 35 year old guy. Vincent was born in 1966, so he's 44. Of course, there's also make up and stuff. There's talented people in Hollywood.

Description of Lord Raith from page 142 of Blood Rites, paperback edition:

Quote
     The air grew suddenly colder, as if the Almighty had flicked on the air-conditioning. A man slid out of the car. He was about six feet tall, dark of hair and pale of flesh. He was dressed in a white linen suit with a silver-grey silk shirt and Italian leather shoes. There was a scarlet gem of some kind fixed to his left earlobe, though his fine, straight hair hid it until a breeze briefly tossed the dark strands to one side. He had long, spatulate fingers, broad shoulders, the eyes of a drowsy jaguar, and he was better-looking than Thomas.

Which is fricking saying something, because Thomas is drop-dead gorgeous!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 24, 2010, 12:06:09 AM
I have updated my cast and made some rearrangments. My list started off coherent with characters listed in order of significance, but it has sort of become random.

Also I admit the list has become a bit ridiculous because I tried to squeeze in as many major actors and actresses as I could even for small roles that wouldn't really require a big star, but I figure since it's a fake cast anyways, why not get as many as I can in there.

I even casted Cowl and we don't even know who that really is yet, it could be a character that's already been revealed. But like I said, I am really stretching this to get a bunch of big names in.

Here is the updated cast.

Male Characters http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANWNmYWZiNWItZTkwNS00NmY0LTliMjctNWViNmI0YWM5NDIw&hl=en (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANWNmYWZiNWItZTkwNS00NmY0LTliMjctNWViNmI0YWM5NDIw&hl=en)
Female Characters http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANzdkMzVmYzQtNmU1OS00YmNlLWJjZDItMDYyMzg3NTlhMWQ2&hl=en (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANzdkMzVmYzQtNmU1OS00YmNlLWJjZDItMDYyMzg3NTlhMWQ2&hl=en)
dude, that would be a good cast, except for harry, i mean i love clive owen but, i dont know man, i am not incredably fond of him, it would depend
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Baron Hazard on May 24, 2010, 06:52:45 AM
Nathan Fillion is my Dresden, I've never been able to feel Blackthorne as Dresden.

Terrence Mann (i think that was his name) will forever be Bob's voice in my head tho.

Erica from "V" would be a good Movie.

And Robin Hood recently has ingrained Russel Crow as Michael to me.

my vote for Thomas is Neill Caffrey from White Collar.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 24, 2010, 02:34:32 PM
I started a new thread about Movie Casting this the other day (meged here)

And someone suggested a poll, so I re-read this thread and I am staring a poll naturally beggining with Harry.

scroll to the top of the page to vote
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 24, 2010, 02:36:01 PM
So I just re-read the Perfect Casting thread and came across a lot of actors that I hadn't thought of before. So now I have enough choices to actually start a poll for Harry.

Sadly, there were a lot of bad choices too, such as people being picked for looks only, and also a ton of television actors. I am not saying some TV actors couldn't pull it off, but TV acting is completely different from movie acting so I tried to avoid most TV actors, granted I did include a few who could probably make the transition well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 24, 2010, 03:00:33 PM

Harry Dresden: Maybe, but he seems a bit old unless we start a ways down the line. I was under the impression Harry was hitting maybe 30 in

Jim has stated before that Harry's age during Welcome to The Jungle/Storm Front is somewhere around his mid-twenties. This is based on the fact that he left McCoy's farm for Chicago at the age of 18 or 19, then spent about four years doing odd jobs, three years of which were working under Nick Christian at Ragged Angel Investigations in order to receive his PI license.

Priscellie has done an extensive time line regarding the Dresdenverse, and as she's one of Jim's betas, she would know the situation. Well, what Jim tells her of it, anyway :) Series Timeline (http://"http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,1592.310.html")
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 24, 2010, 03:12:49 PM
Timeline or not, in reality casting this now would be moot (but it's fun).

There are already 12 books out, so if you made 1 movie for each book you would be facing a Harry Potter situation. Look how much Daniel Radcliffe has aged from start to finish, the movies barely keep up. Granted there is make-up and stuff.

If they actually made a movie for each book we would be looking at something like 24+ years of movies if they rushed them (spent less than a year on each one). I think Jim has 24 books planned for the series.

If they started the movies now, they can get the first half of the movies finished by the time the last book is released.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Der Sturmbrecher on May 24, 2010, 03:13:11 PM
A poll is a good idea! Except I can't think of 5 actors to consider for Harry. I will think about it and start a poll. I will review some of the suggestions on the other threads too, though I have already shot down tons of them like Eric Bana, Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman, etc.

Throw me some suggestions for Harry Dresden, then we can trickle it down to other characters. Casting Harry is going to effect how Thomas Raith is cast also, because Thomas is suppose to resemble Harry, except a bit shorter and a better physique of course. 

Yes, the whole point is that the content is generated by the board, like an election. Candidates get nominated if they have sufficient following, and then they enter the vote-offs. If you've been to GameFAQS, they have an annual character battle which is a good system to use.

Shot down Hugh Jackman!? *sigh* He's my personal fav for the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 24, 2010, 03:25:59 PM
Where is my None of the Above choice

Though Having seen Gerard Butler in a ton of stuff lately, I think he could pull it off.  if he was taller.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 24, 2010, 04:35:35 PM
oded would make a great gate keeper, add some scars and your good, he is decently aged anyways, you have to remeber he did the mummy awhile ago, and he looks a little different now, add some make up an volia! plus he does dark mysterious and cool well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 24, 2010, 04:46:06 PM
Did you see Oded in Splinter Cell?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 24, 2010, 05:06:42 PM
there was a splinter cell movie?  :o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 24, 2010, 05:07:57 PM
there was a splinter cell movie?  :o

sigh
Sleeper Cell
My Brain is off, it's a monday
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 24, 2010, 05:09:01 PM
oh, lol, yeah i saw that, i dont remeber most of it though
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Baron Hazard on May 24, 2010, 05:46:36 PM
Didnt vote.

Other: Nathan Fillion
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ghsdkgb on May 24, 2010, 05:49:47 PM
^I think we have a winner.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 24, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
Ryan Renolds is listed twice.

Also I nominate Chris Evans. Normally I think he's a little too tounge in cheek for some of the roles he takes but thats kind of fitting for Harry. Plus seeing as he's already played the Human Torch he knows how to play with fire. and in the movie Push he did pretty good with blocking bullets with a mental shield.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 24, 2010, 08:58:16 PM
is it wrong that i took a look at the male cast list and had to go for a lie down?

and i know he's not exactly a list but

(http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Joeflanigan.jpg/250px-Joeflanigan.jpg)

what about joe flanigan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 24, 2010, 09:21:41 PM
I don't watch Stargate so Joe Flanigan didn't make my list. Though he has been suggested many many times. Maybe he could pull it off, he has a good look, but I really am not familiar with him. But I probably rather have him then some of the people I put on the list. However I was building the list based off of other threads and how often these actors were suggested.

Personally I originally want Clive Owen but someone pointed out he is too old for the early Harry, then I saw Zachary Quinto and I think he could pull it off, hell he already had a ton of powers in Heroes so it wouldn't even be much of a change for him.

I fixed the list, had Renolds twice and meant to put Fillion, didn't watch Firefly but I saw Serenity, I think he would be ok. I think he would make a better Michael Carpenter though.

I can't believe Olyphant is winning right now. I use to like him especially as Simon in "GO", but after I saw the Hitman......I just don't know anymore, that movie was ubber lame. Though he was decent in "Live Free, Die Hard."

What the hey I'll throw Joe on there too, I think he has a good chance to win.

And Chris Evans, I liked "Push" (why I cast D. Fanning as Molly). Did you know Chris Evans is up for the role of Captain America? Weird since he was already a Marvel character, The Human Torch.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on May 24, 2010, 10:55:32 PM
mebbe I've been watching too much supernatural, but I think Misha Collins could pull it off. He's got the whole sharp/angular face going on... plus he's hilarious.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 24, 2010, 11:21:29 PM
Did you know Chris Evans is up for the role of Captain America? Weird since he was already a Marvel character, The Human Torch.
Yeah thats actually why I thought of him in the first place. Captain America is my favorite marvel hero
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on May 24, 2010, 11:43:52 PM
Did you know Chris Evans is up for the role of Captain America? Weird since he was already a Marvel character, The Human Torch.
It's actually been confirmed, he has been signed on as Cap.  Also Hugo Weaving will be playing the Red Skull.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Brightbane on May 25, 2010, 01:04:56 AM
Oooo, I like Lee Pace for it! He's got that strange humor down pat. My second choice (if there were multiples) would be Joe Flanigan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 01:24:41 PM
Oooo, I like Lee Pace for it! He's got that strange humor down pat.

I really like Lee Pace too but I voted for Zach because he is popular right now (because he is Spock and Sylar, two pretty awesome characters).

I wish I could change my vote to Lee Pace though he does have the strange humor.

For those of you who have never seen Pushing Daisies, you should check it out if you get a chance, he MAGICALLY thouches people back to life and works with a PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR solving mysterious deaths. Does that remind you of anyone?

And while Clive is 45, and Joe is 43, Lee is only 31 and shaven he looks like he is in his mid-twenties. Could definitely pull off young Harry right now.

Lee Pace:
(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/muudang/rough.jpg) (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ne5Lb2SiFHg/Sxf_dmFG1aI/AAAAAAAApEs/ckn7Jko2eI0/s400/lee+pace.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 25, 2010, 02:03:34 PM
I think Im going to change my vote. Lee Pace does seem more fitting
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 02:12:45 PM
I think Im going to change my vote. Lee Pace does seem more fitting

Yes I think he is perfect the more I think about it. (I am probably thinking about it way too much though)

Can you actually change it on the poll? is that possible?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 02:22:28 PM
Lee Pace looks too "sexy" and small for me. If they could get Bruce Campbell from 10-15 years ago I'd go for that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 25, 2010, 02:23:58 PM
Im not sure if you can change your vote or vote more than once it doesnt give me the option. Or I'm just not seeing the where the option is.

Also if you want to see a really good short lived TV show with Lee Pace check out Wonderfalls
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 02:56:51 PM
Lee Pace looks too "sexy" and small for me. If they could get Bruce Campbell from 10-15 years ago I'd go for that.

Lee Pace is too small !?!?! He is 6'3"
Too sexy.....maybe. I think he would be appropriately attractive to play Harry.
I do love "Army of Darkness Bruce Campbell" though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 02:58:07 PM
In the pics I see he looks small. Maybe it's the facial features.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 25, 2010, 03:01:30 PM
I think he's talelr then every other actor on the list though. A couple of those guys are only 5'7"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 03:09:57 PM
Campbell is 6'1", which is relatively tall for the standard actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 03:31:47 PM
Campbell is 6'1", which is relatively tall for the standard actor.

Definitely!

However I was thinking more along the lines of an actual possibility, Bruce is a little old and I don't want to divert too far from real potentials because if we start resurrecting actors and reversing ages we will get suggestions like Humphrey Bogart, Vincent Price, or Clint Eastwood.

Theoretically if time were no issue, sure I would nominate Bruce.

Bruce Campbell recently (Feburary 2009):
(http://media.avclub.com/images/articles/article/23651/bruce-campbell_jpg_595x325_crop_upscale_q85.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Brightbane on May 25, 2010, 03:50:07 PM
Weird. The poll says that I voted for Zach Quinto. It's lies! By my count Lee should be at 3 or 4.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on May 25, 2010, 04:04:43 PM
Someone mentioned it, and I am stuck on my vote for Other - Neil Flynn.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 04:09:35 PM
Someone mentioned it, and I am stuck on my vote for Other - Neil Flynn.

I have to draw the line somewhere.

Neil Flynn is not making the poll, I loved Scrubs and all, but this guy is way too goofy to play Harry Dresden.

How many of the books have you read?!?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on May 25, 2010, 04:17:34 PM
I have read all of them, but take away the goofy. 

You dont have to put it up there, as its my suggestion.  I can really see it though, as said without the goofy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 04:20:05 PM
I did a few changes to my male cast:

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 04:31:26 PM
I have read all of them, but take away the goofy. 

You dont have to put it up there, as its my suggestion.  I can really see it though, as said without the goofy.

Whoa! Calm down, I am not saying your suggestion is goofy. IMO that actor is goofy, no need to get defensive buddy, just my opinion. If anyone has ever seen Scrubs I think they would agree, unless we are talking about a different Neil Flynn. Am I talking about the same Neil Flynn?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on May 25, 2010, 04:41:26 PM
yeah - sorry man - I typed quickly not really reading.  I did not take no offense.  I was thinking ok, take Neil Flynn - but minus the goofiness from scrubs.

I think he could pull off the Sarcastic sense of humor, and the look. 

We are talking about the same Neil Flynn. 

I apologize for my last post - this one was deff more thought out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 04:44:17 PM
Neil Flynn has a life outside of Scrubs. He's been on Last Comic Standing and about a dozen movies, including the last Indiana Jones. However, he looks like he's a bit too old.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 04:59:02 PM
That seems like a reasonable argument. I guess we should leave it to the voters to decide, so I will add Neil Flynn up there since I have seen him suggested on other threads too.

Also I didn't mean for the "how many of the books have you read" question to sound like an insult, it was an honest question, many people have made suggestions based off only reading the first couple of books, and IMO if you haven't read all them you wouldn't be able to picture the difference in Harry from the first book to the 12th book. And none of us know what Harry will be like by book 24, except maybe Jim Butcher.

Spread the poll around too. We only have 15 votes. I think we should at least get 100 votes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 05:04:11 PM
Heh, none of us know what Harry will be like after book 12 TBH.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 25, 2010, 06:08:49 PM
perhaps he'll come back as a woman...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 06:12:07 PM
It might fix is problem with refusing people of the fairer sex.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on May 25, 2010, 06:41:27 PM
I was involved in this same debate in another forum, I felt that my favourite choice for Harry from that conversation was Sean Patrick Flannery, although as someone mentioned, he is a bit too short.
In my mind, I've always cast Rashid as Morgan Freeman and ever since seeing Morgan in the Storm Front comic, he's been Sean Connery, although I do quite like the idea of Connery as McCoy. I've debated Alan Rickman as Nicodemus, no one can do creepy as well as he can, but I'm really not sure if his voice fits.
I like the idea of Helena Bohnam Carter as Mavra, but personally, I'd prefer her a Mab, she's just so good at playing characters that are anywhere from slightly odd to completely insane. Maybe I just want her to have a bigger role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Der Sturmbrecher on May 25, 2010, 06:44:12 PM
Miranda Richardson as Mab. She has experience, after all...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 25, 2010, 06:49:23 PM
What about Gary Oldman as Nicodemus
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Knight Disciple on May 25, 2010, 06:54:02 PM
I did a few changes to my male cast:

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en)
Offhand, yeah, this feels like a much better selection. Though I still prefer Sean Bean for Michael. I always imagined Michael with a fairly square jaw; Viggo doesn't quite have it. But that's a comparatively minor quibble.

I'm of the mind it's always better to have actors who are "too young"; these days, aging someone older is easier than aging them younger, and seems more natural on-screen.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Der Sturmbrecher on May 25, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
What about Gary Oldman as Nicodemus

Not saying he couldn't do it, but Oldman seems the wrong type for that character. For Nicodemus, I get more of a Jason Isaacs, Mark Strong kind of vibe.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 25, 2010, 06:57:32 PM
jason isaacs...

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sorry, had to go back and lie down for a while there.

yup, he would do a great nic.
if he could play it a little straighter what about jack black for mort lundqvist?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on May 25, 2010, 07:02:57 PM
I'm of the mind it's always better to have actors who are "too young"; these days, aging someone older is easier than aging them younger, and seems more natural on-screen.
I remember reading something about this being the reason the characters in Watchmen were cast as much younger actors, that way the same actors could be used for a scene in that takes place in the 60's as a scene in the 80's

I suppose you just countered the comment I was about to make anout Jet Li seeming a bit young for Shiro, I always pictured Shiro as looking sonething like Mr Miyagi, the stereotypical "old, wise martial arts master look". (which I might add, none of the 3 "old, wise martial arts masters" I've met have.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Knight Disciple on May 25, 2010, 07:12:28 PM
I remember reading something about this being the reason the characters in Watchmen were cast as much younger actors, that way the same actors could be used for a scene in that takes place in the 60's as a scene in the 80's

I suppose you just countered the comment I was about to make anout Jet Li seeming a bit young for Shiro, I always pictured Shiro as looking sonething like Mr Miyagi, the stereotypical "old, wise martial arts master look". (which I might add, none of the 3 "old, wise martial arts masters" I've met have.)
I always had Mr. Miyagi in mind.  :D

But since that actor passed away, yeah. Jet Li is pretty solid.

I will note that "aging up" only works if you're artificially aging someone from "adulthood" to "later adulthood". Like, 20s to 50s, or something. Too young, and it'll look fake.

And I dunno, I could see Oldman pulling off Nicky boy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 25, 2010, 07:15:51 PM
as long as they dont make him look like glen close again
(http://imgtn2.ask.com/ts?t=8174923206368313495&pid=23120&ppid=1)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on May 25, 2010, 07:32:23 PM
as long as they dont make him look like glen close again
(http://imgtn2.ask.com/ts?t=8174923206368313495&pid=23120&ppid=1)

Now that you mention her... she might be able to do Man or Lea
I don't know why, this just suddenly popped into my mind, but one of the Mothers should be Betty White.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 25, 2010, 07:34:11 PM
oh yeah, mother summer

with geraldine mcewan as mother winter
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 07:34:52 PM
What about Gary Oldman as Nicodemus

Was already done before this post  ;)

Not saying he couldn't do it, but Oldman seems the wrong type for that character. For Nicodemus, I get more of a Jason Isaacs, Mark Strong kind of vibe.

Jason Isaacs... I forgot about him. Yeah he could probably pull it off.

But Oldman is versatile, he played Dracula and Zorg in Fifth element just to name a couple of characters that make him suitable for the role.

Of course Isaacs was Lucius Malfoy, an evil wizard, definitely qualifies him for the Dresden Cast.

I always pictured Shiro as looking sonething like Mr Miyagi, the stereotypical "old, wise martial arts master look".

Me too, unfortunately Pat Morita is no longer, and I couldn't think of too many suitable replacments. A couple others I considered were Ken Wantanabe, George Takei, and Randall Duk Kim.

I guess it's worth mentioning that Jackie Chan will be taking Pat Morita's place in the new Karate Kid movie. But I think they mean to go a bit of a different direction, like more comedy.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 07:43:57 PM
as long as they dont make him look like glen close again
(http://imgtn2.ask.com/ts?t=8174923206368313495&pid=23120&ppid=1)

LOL! Maybe Gary Oldman can be Mavra.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 07:59:01 PM
My second choice for Waldo Butters is Paul Reubens. Coincidentally this is a scene from Pushing Daisies.

(http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/paul-reubens_l.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 08:02:40 PM
I've put this in another thread, but Ebenezar should be Wilford Brimley.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 08:14:05 PM
Ebenezar should be Wilford Brimley.

I also considered him, but I think he is in poor health now and probably couldn't manage some of the scenes.
What made me think of him originally was his role as Uncle Douvee in Hard Target.

Someone mentioned Tommy Lee Jones for Eb in another thread. That I could actually see.
(http://www.nikohk.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/tommy-lee-jones-cannes-2005-nicolas-guerin.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 08:19:04 PM
Clint Eastwood could probably do Eb. He's still mobile enough. He's even got the truck from the last movie he did.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 08:44:36 PM
Clint Eastwood could probably do Eb. He's still mobile enough. He's even got the truck from the last movie he did.

Gran Torino Clint Eastwood.....I like it! Definitely could work.

I wish Clint Eastwood were young again so they could make The Gunslinger, but that book series ended up be crap by the last 3 books, so no huge loss if they never make that a movie.
IMO i think Viggo Mortisen could be the new Clint Eastwood, granted not as good as, but a good replacement if they make any Gunslinger movies.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on May 26, 2010, 05:29:48 AM
Has anyone checked the height on any of these harry actors? I know Zachary Quinto is 6' 1-2" but what about the rest? could be Clive Owen or some of these others are a friggin' dwarf in real life.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 26, 2010, 12:33:35 PM
Has anyone checked the height on any of these harry actors? I know Zachary Quinto is 6' 1-2" but what about the rest? could be Clive Owen or some of these others are a friggin' dwarf in real life.

Zachary Quinto - 6'2"
Lee Pace - 6'3"
Ryan Reynolds - anywhere between 6'1" and 6'3" (bit of an argument over his height there)
Hugh Jackman - 6'2"
Clive Owen - 6'2" and a half
Adrian Brody - 6'1"
Paul Bettany - 6'3"
Timothy Olyphant - 6' 0" even
Nathan Fillion - 6'1" and a half
Hugh Laurie - 6'2" and a half
Joe Flanigan - 6'2"
Chris Evans - 6'0" and a half
Gerard Butler - 6'2"
Neil Flynn - 6'5"



There ya go, hank!

for the record, Jared Padalecki, who looks a helluva lot like Harry on the cover of Welcome to the Jungle (I mean, seriously. It's eerie, the resemblance, there) is 6'4". And he just got done portraying a morally ambiguous hunter for the season on Supernatural. And he's 27 this year, which fits around what Harry's age may be in Storm Front. Just saying :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 26, 2010, 01:18:20 PM
wow I could have sworn that I lot of them were under 6'
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 26, 2010, 01:59:57 PM
Lee Pace! Lee Pace! Lee Pace!
(http://www.thepiemaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/lee_pace3.jpg)(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7400000/Lee-lee-pace-7437603-996-1425.jpg)(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/drenchrome/001-4.jpg)(http://www.lizandlaura.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/lee-pace-2.jpg)

Vote for Lee!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 26, 2010, 02:25:55 PM
wow I could have sworn that I lot of them were under 6'

Nope! They're all stupidly tall. The only issue is which one of them can be made to look as though they're 3 inches shy of 7 feet tall?

(again, this is from the back of Welcome to The Jungle -- Jim says that Harry is absurdly tall -- about 6'9". Which I find makes his relationship to Murphy hilarious, given that she's 5'0" even [according to Blood Rites].)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 26, 2010, 02:33:11 PM
to be honest it really doesn't matter how tall they are. Hollywood has ways around it. IE James Marsden playing Cyclops and Tom Cruise playing well anything. Both are short actors but have played tall roles
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Brightbane on May 26, 2010, 03:31:36 PM
Nope! They're all stupidly tall. The only issue is which one of them can be made to look as though they're 3 inches shy of 7 feet tall?

(again, this is from the back of Welcome to The Jungle -- Jim says that Harry is absurdly tall -- about 6'9". Which I find makes his relationship to Murphy hilarious, given that she's 5'0" even [according to Blood Rites].)
I've always wondered how Jim never mentions Harry's problems with doorways or ceilings. I'm only 6'7" and I was getting pissed with how small the doors in chicago were. People never realize how low some public ceilings can be.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 26, 2010, 05:04:31 PM
I think your supposed to assume that he has a whole gandalf in bagend thing going on when he goes through doors, at least i always did
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 26, 2010, 05:09:15 PM
I've always wondered how Jim never mentions Harry's problems with doorways or ceilings. I'm only 6'7" and I was getting pissed with how small the doors in chicago were. People never realize how low some public ceilings can be.

Well, he's mentioned it when Harry goes to MacAnally's. Every once in a while, he mentions that he has to duck because the 13 ceiling fans are all low-hanging :)

... now I have an image in my head of Harry turning to walk through a doorway, only to bonk himself in the forehead with the door frame.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 26, 2010, 05:10:25 PM
... now I have an image in my head of Harry turning to walk through a doorway, only to bonk himself in the forehead with the door frame.
this i can see
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atomsk on May 26, 2010, 05:36:17 PM
I hate being 6', I feel short.  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 26, 2010, 05:49:56 PM
i hate to say it but lee pace to me looks more like whatsisname the private eye from turn coat
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Baron Hazard on May 26, 2010, 06:25:34 PM
go go Nathan Fillion! I... Am a genius ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 27, 2010, 05:01:12 PM
Well my post @ McAnally's (The Friendly Pub) is down for renovations so I am back here posting my thoughts about dream casting. I noticed some things on here I missed before.

I saw Johnny Depp mentioned, I love Johnny (Jack Sparrow, Willy Wonka, Ed Scissorhands, etc.) but I just can't see him in the Dresden Files movie. Others I like but can't see in this are Brad Pitt, Ed Norton, Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks, Russel Crowe, Mel Gibson, Kevin Spacey, Jude Law, Christopher Walken, Joaquin Phoenix, Benecio Del Toro, ....the list goes on, the point is I just don't think they have the right feel for this.

Someone said Billy Connolly as Eb. I like him a lot, Boondock Saints is one of my favorites. He has the look but I have never heard Billy Connolly do a southern accent. Can he do it? Other Tommy Lee Jones, didn't like this idea at first but after seeing some recent images of Tommy Lee Jones, I think it could work, he can definitely do Kentucty Fried. Sam Elliot was mentioned too, I can't picture him as a wizard (even though he was in Golden Compass).

A lot of people see Salma Hayek as Susan, but I think she just wouldn't fit as the love interest of anyone cast as Harry. Salma is great, she does sci-fi/fantasy well (from Dusk til Dawn, Vampires Assistant) but I can't see her as Susan, maybe Bianca........actually I like that since the Red Courts power base is sort of south american.

Gary Oldman....well just check out my cast below.

I keep hearing Tilda Swinton as Winter Queen (because she played the Winter Witch in Narnia). However, Mab is suppose to be like Drop Dead Georgous and to me Tilda Swinton just doesn't really fit that. See who i chose.

I had Danny Trejo as Injun Joe, but someone mention Wes Studi and I liked that idea better.

Ian McKellan (Gandolf) I can't see him as the Merlin, I don't know if he can be as pretencious as the Merlin. Although as Magneto he did a pretty good job. I would like to see Ian somewhere in this but I can't think of where, thought about having him as the Gatekeeper, but Rashid is middle eastern.

I have Christopher Lee as my Merlin, I thought he would make a good Lord Raith, but many say no way. Other suggestion for Raith was Vincent Cassel. I can see that, but can Cassel do an American accent yet? I think he still has a French accent and I don't know if that would work for Lord Raith.

I have Viggo Mortisen (Aragorn LOTR) as my Michael , but someone mentioned him (Eastern Promises) as Marcone. That would be a good alternate role.

Stuart Townsend as Thomas.......yeah he played a vampire....but did he play it well? He also played Dorian Gray in LOEG. Have to say no to Townsend, I am a huge fan of Anne Rice's Vampire and Witch chronicles and the Queen of the Damned movie just didn't do the books any justice, so unfortunately Townsend gets lumped in with that dissapointment of a movie.

Tim Roth as Kincaid. I can't see that. I love Tim Roth, but can't see him as Kincaid even after his role in The Hulk. I see Roth more as one of the villians, like maybe a Denarius or White Court Vamp. Someone also said Alexander Skarsgard as Kincaid. I can't see that either, I love Skarsgard too, and I squeezed him in my fake cast, but he just can't top who I have as Kincaid. (D@mn it all! Alexander Skarsgard should be THOR in the movie, but they got the dude that was in Star Trek for a whole 2 minutes)

Haven't added this to my cast pdf, but definitely see Bruce Wills as Mac.

Updated Cast:
Male Casthttp://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en)
Female Casthttp://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANzdkMzVmYzQtNmU1OS00YmNlLWJjZDItMDYyMzg3NTlhMWQ2&hl=en (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANzdkMzVmYzQtNmU1OS00YmNlLWJjZDItMDYyMzg3NTlhMWQ2&hl=en)

Some runner-ups or actors that didn't make my cast....yet (there are still more books coming) and are not already mentioned above are:
guys: Ray Stevenson, Jame McAvoy, Kevin Durand, Liev Schreiber, Michael Sheen, Geoffrey Rush, Gil Birmingham, Crispin Glover, Cristoph Waltz, Jeremy Irons,
gals: Tea Leoni, Sienna Miller, Emma Watson, Michelle Trachtenberg, Hayden Panetierre, Lily Cole
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on May 27, 2010, 05:06:51 PM
*handwave*  I ignore your foolish belief that Kevin Spacey wouldn't fit.  The man's the most versatile actor working in Hollywood with maybe the exception of Gary Oldman.  He's my Nicodemus and any suggestions to the contrary do not exist in my reality. ;D

Just a note that Eb is not Southern.  He's from Missouri.  That's not the South.  It's the midwest.  The question would be if Billy could do a midwestern mountain man accent, but I agree that would be a concern.  On looks and 'tude, though, he's aces and it's one of my favorite suggestions to come out of this thread.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 27, 2010, 05:34:26 PM
i can see kevin spacy as nico, but i like gary oldman more as nico
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 27, 2010, 05:34:59 PM
Ebenezar is a freaking Scotsman
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 27, 2010, 05:45:33 PM
Is he? i could never really tell.  ??? :-[ :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 27, 2010, 05:47:02 PM
Ebenezar is a freaking Scotsman


He is. They even mention it in the books, particularly when he gets reminiscent, or when Harry (or someone else, but it's usually Harry) pisses him off. His Scots burr comes through. He's just been living in/owned the farm in Hog Hollow for so long that the Scots burr has diminished significantly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 27, 2010, 05:47:27 PM
*handwave*  I ignore your foolish belief that Kevin Spacey wouldn't fit.  The man's the most versatile actor working in Hollywood with maybe the exception of Gary Oldman.  He's my Nicodemus and any suggestions to the contrary do not exist in my reality. ;D

Just a note that Eb is not Southern.  He's from Missouri.  That's not the South.  It's the midwest.  The question would be if Billy could do a midwestern mountain man accent, but I agree that would be a concern.  On looks and 'tude, though, he's aces and it's one of my favorite suggestions to come out of this thread.

Oldman is my Nic. I love Kevin Spacey (Kaiser Souzai), but I don't think he could nail Nicodemus, he is also a bit too old I think. Nicodemus is suppose to be like 30ish, and though Oldman is about 50, he still looks pretty young with some makeup. If Oldman wasn't an option I could see Spacey playing Nic.

*burn* I stand corrected, your right about Eb being midwestern, not southern. Connolly has it all, but I would have to hear him do a midwestern accent. For practicality though I can see Rip Torn (Dodgeball) and Tommy Lee Jones (No Country for Old Men) pulling off the accent and attitude, with the exception that they may not be convincinng as wizards when they have to start slinging magic around. (coincidentally they were both in MIB)

Ebenezar is a freaking Scotsman

Maybe so, but he has spent his last few decades as Midwestern, so for all practical purposes he is midwestern.

If he was still a very Scottish Scotsman I would have probably cast someone like Sean Connery.....in a kilt.....with a bagpipe. Or grounds keeper Willy from the Simpsons.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 27, 2010, 05:48:52 PM
Sean Connery would probably work actually.
In overalls.  Wow, I would pay to see that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 27, 2010, 05:49:52 PM
If he was still a very Scottish Scotsman I would have probably cast someone like Sean Connery.....in a kilt.....with a bagpipe.

Which just might be this side of disturbing. I love Sean Conner, but, uh... no.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on May 27, 2010, 05:51:44 PM
Apropos of nothing but Kevin Spacey's versatility, I had a Kevin Spacey Movie Marathon one night.  Back to back, Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil followed by K-Pax.  I almost broke something in my brain.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 27, 2010, 06:03:02 PM
Apropos of nothing but Kevin Spacey's versatility, I had a Kevin Spacey Movie Marathon one night.  Back to back, Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil followed by K-Pax.  I almost broke something in my brain.

I totally agree on Spacey's versatility, but I think Oldman has him beat on that count.

Oldman: Dracula, True Romance as Drexl Spivey, Stansfield in The Professional/Leon, Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg in Fifth Element, Mason Verger in Hannibal, Rolfe (a midget) in Tiptoes,  Sirius Black in Harry Potter, Jim Gordon in Batman, Carnegie in the Book of Eli.


I am just hitting the highlights. I bolded his role as Sirius because I think that is relevant to the subject matter here.

Spacey plays great roles but nothing as far out as Oldman has accomplished.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on May 27, 2010, 06:06:27 PM
Oh no, I agree that Oldman's crazy-versatile.   I just have a soft spot for Spacey. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 27, 2010, 08:15:19 PM
My favorite Spacey role is Verbal in Usual Suspects.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on May 28, 2010, 11:33:12 AM
Screw it - let's get BOTH of them in on any Butcher screen version. The screen would explode from the overload of awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 28, 2010, 02:37:00 PM
This is slightly off topic, but I thought it interesting how Nicolas Cage is the Executive Producer of the Dresden Files TV show and now he is going to play a "sorcerer" in this upcoming film (another Disney movie by the way).

The Sorcerer's Apprentice (2010)
Balthazar Blake (Nicolas Cage) is a master sorcerer in modern-day Manhattan trying to defend the city from his arch-nemesis, Maxim Horvath (Alfred Molina). Balthazar can't do it alone, so he recruits Dave Stutler (Jay Baruchel), a seemingly average guy who demonstrates hidden potential, as his reluctant protégé. The sorcerer gives his unwilling accomplice a crash course in the art and science of magic, and together, these unlikely partners work to stop the forces of darkness. It'll take all the courage Dave can muster to survive his training, save the city and get the girl as he becomes The Sorcerer's Apprentice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on May 28, 2010, 03:01:42 PM
This is slightly off topic, but I thought it interesting how Nicolas Cage is the Executive Producer of the Dresden Files TV show and now he is going to play a "sorcerer" in this upcoming film (another Disney movie by the way).

The Sorcerer's Apprentice (2010)
Balthazar Blake (Nicolas Cage) is a master sorcerer in modern-day Manhattan trying to defend the city from his arch-nemesis, Maxim Horvath (Alfred Molina). Balthazar can't do it alone, so he recruits Dave Stutler (Jay Baruchel), a seemingly average guy who demonstrates hidden potential, as his reluctant protégé. The sorcerer gives his unwilling accomplice a crash course in the art and science of magic, and together, these unlikely partners work to stop the forces of darkness. It'll take all the courage Dave can muster to survive his training, save the city and get the girl as he becomes The Sorcerer's Apprentice.


heh, there's a thread dedicated to that in Media Favorites. xD

his costume DOES look heavily inspired by DF covers, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 28, 2010, 04:49:18 PM
heh, there's a thread dedicated to that in Media Favorites. xD

his costume DOES look heavily inspired by DF covers, though.

Wow! Am I super late or what. That thread was started like 6 months ago.
There is a good argument on there though that maybe it isn't a rip off of Dresden but more of a salute to it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on May 28, 2010, 04:56:47 PM
Wow! Am I super late or what. That thread was started like 6 months ago.
There is a good argument on there though that maybe it isn't a rip off of Dresden but more of a salute to it.

I personally think it's more of a salute than a rip off.

I don't think he'd call it a rip off, anyway. Fans would rip off his head for that... ha, ha.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on May 28, 2010, 10:04:07 PM
Speaking of Sorcerer's Apprentice and it's eerie resemblance to Dresden covers... Anyone seen the posters for Jonas Hex? ;)

(http://jonasdiego.com/theblurb/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jonah-hex.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on May 28, 2010, 10:27:42 PM
The Jonah Hex movie is going to suck royally. They're turning a fairly low key comic into a bunch of Micheal Bay blockbuster bullshit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on May 28, 2010, 11:37:05 PM
Speaking of Sorcerer's Apprentice and it's eerie resemblance to Dresden covers... Anyone seen the posters for Jonas Hex? ;)

(http://jonasdiego.com/theblurb/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jonah-hex.jpg)
Meh this one I think we can write off as simply a similar style.  Jonah's been dressing that way for a lot longer than Dresden.  I try to remain optimistic about this movie myself, the trailers don't look so bad.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 01, 2010, 01:25:28 PM
I thought it looked interesting, but I also immediately thought of "The Gunslinger" by Stephen King, though the story is not at all the same, really the only similarity is supernatural and gunslinger. I hated the later 3 Dark Tower books though, why is it everytime someone goes hollywood there stuff seems to start degrading into crap. Well not really....I only have two in mind Stephen King and George Lucas, the further they climbed, the worse they got.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on June 02, 2010, 08:09:23 AM
sorry saw a pic of demi lovato and thought - Maggie in a few years- well she's got the chin , and i think she has hispanic and european hertitage. Alot of people probably gonna say no. meh

(http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Demi+Lovato+Launches+New+Disney+TV+Music+Season+-4YuxnNiBP3l.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Paynesgrey on June 02, 2010, 09:42:43 PM
My favorite Spacey role is Verbal in Usual Suspects.

Probably why in "casting" the Alera books I keep putting his face on Fidelius.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kyre on June 02, 2010, 09:57:14 PM
I have a friend who i think would be perfect for Molly. She's about the same age, just as quirky, attractive and wild crazy hair (which this week is blood red!) I can't read about Molly without thinking of my friend

(when i get her permission to post a pic, i'll pop one up!)

Ok, got her permission! :P

So, my friend who reminds me of Molly!

(http://thumbnails2.imagebam.com/8316/37e94d83153334.gif) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/37e94d83153334/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: caforever99 on June 03, 2010, 06:00:12 PM
How about Tilda Swinton as Mab and Viggo Mortensen as Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on June 04, 2010, 03:47:21 PM
Interesting, guess I'll do a partial list of my own:
Harry Dresden - Chris Evans http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0262635/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0262635/) Specifically check Push for his action and grungy abilities, and the Fantastic Four films for wit and wryness as the Human Torch.
Thomas Raith - Brad Pitt.  The first Dresden Files book I read was Small Favor, and I immediately pictured him in that role.
~Papa Raith - Vincent Cassel.  See Ocean's Twelve for the raw menace he can portray, and just as quickly change it to suave affability.
~Lara Raith -
Ebenezar McCoy - Rip Torn.  The man's name and look bring to mind images of an aging wolverine, which I think suits Eb perfectly.
~Ancient Mai -
~Arthur Langtry - Sir Ian McKellan.  I would've said Sirs Ian Holm or Christopher Lee, but the first is kind of on the small side and Lee is too outright-menacing :D
~Joseph Listens-to-Wind -
~Martha Liberty -
~Rashid - Alexander Siddig.  He played the man Orlando Bloom spared in Kingdom of Heaven, who turned out to be Saladin's Chancellor.  A very witty, but grave, guy.
~Aleron LaFortier -
~Gregori Cristos - Bill Nighy.  He'll be playing Rufus Scrimgeour in the last Harry Potter film, which I see as kind of similar in appearance to this role.
Michael Carpenter - Jeremy Irons.  Seen the Kingdom of Heaven?
~Molly Carpenter - Dakota Fanning.  Again, see Push.
~Charity Carpenter - Sandra Bullock.  Yep.
Mab -
~Maeve - Megan Fox.  I hate hate hate her, which I think would be great fuel for this role.
~Lloyd Slate - Viggo Mortenson.  I think it would be a great role for him, definitely breaking the mould from how he usually performs.
~Leahansidhe -
Uriel - Morgan Freeman.  He's done God before, yeah, but I can't get him out of my head for playing Uriel (all shape-shifting aside!).
Mac - Bruce Willis.  Done.

Wooh!  I'll fill in the blanks later.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on June 04, 2010, 10:14:58 PM
I feel the need to post Lee Pace again... just cus I'm re-watching Pushing Daisies and I think he'd be perfect as Harry.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvyny0fUTF1qa1vdfo1_r2_500.jpg)
(http://22.media.tumblr.com/pLGmhUf5Qk9jrkd4Z3L0gJE1o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MeGyver on June 05, 2010, 01:46:01 AM
Ok, so here is my fan cast, given an unlimited budget, good prevailing winds and a proper alignment of the planets.

Director(yes, I even thought about this): Joss Whedon
Producer: J.J. Abrams (Moar lenseflare)
Screen Play: Jim Butcher

Harry: Nathan Fillion (For his delivery, I know he doesn't have the perfect look, but the other actors I considered as Harry don't have the presence to carry a movie)
Murphy: Elizabeth Banks  http://images.dailyradar.com/media/uploads/showhype/photos_large/2008/09/15/tn2_elizabeth_banks_4.jpg
Bob: (Depending on what we're going for with the movie) Hugh Laurie's voice (for a darker film), Alan Tudyk (lighter, more action-comedy style)
Thomas: Sean Maher
Molly:
The Archive: Elle Fanning (Dakota's all grown up, time for Elle to take up the mantle of playing creepy ethereal children.
Michael: Eric Bana (lighten his hair a bit)   http://laughinggasonline.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/eric-bana.jpg
Gerald Butler  http://trobentica.blog.siol.net/files/2008/11/gerardbutler.jpg
http://littlejunkies.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/gerard-butler.jpg
Paul Bettany  http://topazbean.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/bettany-chaucer.jpg
Charity Carpenter: Laura Linney
Ebenezar McCoy: Sean Connery or Gene Hackman
Marcone: Robert Downey Jr.
Morgan: Anthony Hopkins (Circa 10 Years ago) or Liam Neeson
Lara Raith: Angelina Jolie
Carlos Ramirez: Jon Huertas
Susan: Cote De Pablo
Butters: Brian Dietzen (already played an ME)
Johnny Galecki (adorkable)
John Francis Daley
T.J. Thyne
Mortimer Linquist (because it's my fancast): Nicholas Brendon
Lasciel/Lash: Scarlett Johansson
Nicodemus: Hugh Laurie (if not bob)
Christian Bale (I don't like him at all, but he did restrained crazy well)
Paul Bettany (if not Michael)
Simon Baker
Lea: Cate Blanchette
Summer Queen: Nicole Kidman
Justine: Dakota Fanning
Maeve: Christina Ricci
Toot-Toot: Anton Yelchin

All I've got for now.
LLAP

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 05, 2010, 05:06:47 AM
Ok, so here is my fan cast, given an unlimited budget, good prevailing winds and a proper alignment of the planets.

Director(yes, I even thought about this): Joss Whedon
Producer: J.J. Abrams (Moar lenseflare)
Screen Play: Jim Butcher

Harry: Nathan Fillion (For his delivery, I know he doesn't have the perfect look, but the other actors I considered as Harry don't have the presence to carry a movie)
Murphy: Elizabeth Banks  http://images.dailyradar.com/media/uploads/showhype/photos_large/2008/09/15/tn2_elizabeth_banks_4.jpg
Bob: (Depending on what we're going for with the movie) Hugh Laurie's voice (for a darker film), Alan Tudyk (lighter, more action-comedy style)
Thomas: Sean Maher
Molly:
The Archive: Elle Fanning (Dakota's all grown up, time for Elle to take up the mantle of playing creepy ethereal children.
Michael: Eric Bana (lighten his hair a bit)   http://laughinggasonline.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/eric-bana.jpg
Gerald Butler  http://trobentica.blog.siol.net/files/2008/11/gerardbutler.jpg
http://littlejunkies.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/gerard-butler.jpg
Paul Bettany  http://topazbean.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/bettany-chaucer.jpg
Charity Carpenter: Laura Linney
Ebenezar McCoy: Sean Connery or Gene Hackman
Marcone: Robert Downey Jr.
Morgan: Anthony Hopkins (Circa 10 Years ago) or Liam Neeson
Lara Raith: Angelina Jolie
Carlos Ramirez: Jon Huertas
Susan: Cote De Pablo
Butters: Brian Dietzen (already played an ME)
Johnny Galecki (adorkable)
John Francis Daley
T.J. Thyne
Mortimer Linquist (because it's my fancast): Nicholas Brendon
Lasciel/Lash: Scarlett Johansson
Nicodemus: Hugh Laurie (if not bob)
Christian Bale (I don't like him at all, but he did restrained crazy well)
Paul Bettany (if not Michael)
Simon Baker
Lea: Cate Blanchette
Summer Queen: Nicole Kidman
Justine: Dakota Fanning
Maeve: Christina Ricci
Toot-Toot: Anton Yelchin

All I've got for now.
LLAP



I VOTE THIS!!!!!

but I'm still holding out for J3nee's Matt Bomer as Thomas. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on June 05, 2010, 06:44:32 AM
Well, I totally just got destroyed  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 05, 2010, 06:51:35 AM
Well, I totally just got destroyed  :D

I liked Ian McKellen for your choice.

and I forgot to not approve of Fanning as Justine. Heh.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on June 05, 2010, 08:24:56 AM
The biggest problem I have casting the under 40's is that you have to constantly change around as your mind's favorites are ground down by papa time.
With that in mind I was looking at some younger folk for the roles here, and saw what I thought was a good fit for Murphy, not quite old enough now, but fine by the time any likely shooting would start:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1689872/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1689872/)  Alisoon Haislip.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: graogrim on June 05, 2010, 04:06:08 PM
Ok. I only have one firm suggestion, and I fully realize that it's kind of out there, but I can't help it. This guy is whose face popped into my mind as soon as I was introduced to John Marcone: Howie Mandel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on June 05, 2010, 06:11:25 PM
oh, you're kidding me! Right?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: graogrim on June 05, 2010, 10:27:50 PM
I am completely serious. I mean think about it: Take Howie, add a few pounds and a little bit of gray on the sides, and he is totally gangster material. I can't help it. In my mind, that is the face of Gentleman John Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on June 05, 2010, 11:40:35 PM
all righty then.... Actually, the more I think about it, the less ridiculous it sounds. But he'd have to grow hair again.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: graogrim on June 06, 2010, 01:25:02 AM
He's gotta stay shiny on top. A little on the sides should be ok though. I mean *just* a little.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jadis402010 on June 06, 2010, 01:47:06 AM
I don't know, when I read the books, when it comes to Thomas, I don't picture Matt Bomer...sorry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 06, 2010, 01:49:39 AM
I must ask, who is this matt bomer? sorry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on June 06, 2010, 01:50:40 AM
I must ask, who is this matt bomer? sorry


Star of "White Collar". Handsome dude.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: graogrim on June 06, 2010, 03:53:07 AM
Yeah I gotta say when I read Thomas, I don't even picture a real person. More like something out of anime.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 06, 2010, 04:01:52 AM
Star of "White Collar". Handsome dude.
Thanks, just looked him up, got to say, i can see him as thomas, but i can't at the same time
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 06, 2010, 05:17:28 AM
The sad thing is... when I read Changes I absolutely saw Matt Bomer in the role of Thomas from the moment I started reading. The only issue I have is as I finished the book up i had to change my mind about if I really wanted him to play that role as it plays out. But I can see him doing it. It just popped out in my mind that he could do it and he was there as I read. It was like WHOA :D And when I read I see the scenes as if I'm watching a movie or tv show. So as I think of people who could play the role they either pop in immediately or over time as i reread the books.

But that's just my take... along with that yummy Thomas looking pic of him here:

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

And I will keep posting that pic to get more of you girls getting the 'vapors" from looking at him. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: aboutnici on June 06, 2010, 12:57:35 PM
For Molly Carpenter, I would cast Amanda Seyfried for that role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 07, 2010, 05:30:59 PM
For Molly Carpenter, I would cast Amanda Seyfried for that role.

That's not bad, but Amanda Seyfried is 25 years old, and Dakota Fanning is 16/17 which is about the same age as Molly is in the current storyline. Dakota could age with the movies, Seyfried might be a little to old to do that.

Plus D. Fanning roles in Push and Twilight Saga give her a little more clout to play this role.

I could see Seyfried playing some part in this though, I think she would make a good villian, I have seen her do some wicked looks in a few of her movies and she pulls it off pretty well. Maybe she should be Nicodemus' daughter. The denarian with the metal tendrils.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 07, 2010, 05:40:17 PM
Matt Bomer as Thomas? I guess he kind of has the look, but I am not familiar with his work, is he a talented actor? what is his best role that makes him a suitable White Court Vampire, specifically Thomas?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on June 07, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
See, that's my problem with Matt Bomer.  Sure he's cute, and he has that one headshot where he looks menacing/sexy, but I've never seen him do menacing/sexy.  Both in Chuck and now in White Collar, he's sort of charming and swashbuckling, but not... what was the phrase?  Predatory angel.  I don't know if he can do the 'tude, and 'tude will get you farther as Thomas in my cast list than just good looks.  Which Bomer has, let's not kid ourselves. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 07, 2010, 10:59:12 PM
The sad thing is... when I read Changes I absolutely saw Matt Bomer in the role of Thomas from the moment I started reading. The only issue I have is as I finished the book up i had to change my mind about if I really wanted him to play that role as it plays out. But I can see him doing it. It just popped out in my mind that he could do it and he was there as I read. It was like WHOA :D And when I read I see the scenes as if I'm watching a movie or tv show. So as I think of people who could play the role they either pop in immediately or over time as i reread the books.

But that's just my take... along with that yummy Thomas looking pic of him here:

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

And I will keep posting that pic to get more of you girls getting the 'vapors" from looking at him. ;)

*squees rather embarrassingly and runs into bunk*

See, that's my problem with Matt Bomer.  Sure he's cute, and he has that one headshot where he looks menacing/sexy, but I've never seen him do menacing/sexy.  Both in Chuck and now in White Collar, he's sort of charming and swashbuckling, but not... what was the phrase?  Predatory angel.  I don't know if he can do the 'tude, and 'tude will get you farther as Thomas in my cast list than just good looks.  Which Bomer has, let's not kid ourselves. :D

*cough*

erm, anyway, maybe Matt can pull it off. Sure we haven't seen him predatory, but maybe he can, if he's a good enough actor... I liked him in Chuck, and he was good in it, so maybe he could act other roles as well.. I hope...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Treacle Tart on June 08, 2010, 07:38:08 AM
Having read the entire thread, I have come to the conclusion that it is really hard to cast the DF book characters because you have to find actors and actresses who look the parts, and can act! I honestly think that for some of the Sidhe characters, they'd have to be CGI creations, a la Avatar.

For Harry, I definitely agree with the Timothy Olyphant suggestion, especially if he were to grow his hair longer (http://www.thecinemasource.com/blog/movies/catch-and-release/attachment/Catch_and_Release-2-Timothy_Olyphant/). I can also see Lee Pace as Harry. He certainly has the right height (http://www.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/anna-friel-and-lee-pace.jpg). Also, he's used to working with a doggy co-star (http://www.fanpop.com/spots/lee-pace/images/404349/title/lee-pace).

Murphy: I have no frickin' idea! I always picture Murphy as someone built like Hayden Panettiere - petite, muscular, gymnast body. But she's too young and I don't like her anyway. I cannot see Sarah Michelle Gellar in the role as she is way too skinny. There were times on Buffy when I honestly thought she was going to break her stick-like arms when she pretended to pound on the baddies, or even the heavy bag during workouts.

Michael: Definitely agree with the Viggo Mortensen suggestion.

Charity: I like Samantha Ferris (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm159353088/nm0274919), but she is only 5'5". Elizabeth Mitchell from Lost and V would be my second choice although she isn't as solidly built as I would prefer.

Molly: Deborah Ann Woll (http://i49.tinypic.com/352neyx.jpg). Yes, she's 25 but she plays teen vamp Jessica on True Blood, and she's 5'10". Someone suggested Dakota Fanning but she is way too skinny and only 5'2". Molly is supposed to be built like her mother, i.e. like a brick house. Dakota Fanning is built more like a short light house.

Sanya: Boris Kodjoe (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1654822912/nm0462673)

Ivy: That creepy girl (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3257960448/nm2265157) from the movie The Orphan.

Kincaid: Alexander Skarsgard (http://i48.tinypic.com/16gjdg.jpg) or Josh Holloway (http://www.fancast.com/blogs/files/2010/03/sawyers-gotta-gun1.jpg) from Lost.

Carlos Ramirez: Gael Garcia Bernal or Diego Luna

Luccio: If Jennifer Garner is too obvious, how about Carey Mulligan (http://www.awardsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Carey-Mulligan-at-the-Sun-001.jpg)?

Marcone: Jason Isaacs, Ralph Fiennes or Guy Pearce (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm817992704/nm0001602).

Nic: Bill Nighy

Lara Raith: Can't beat the obvious choice, Angelina Jolie

Madeline Raith: Megan Fox

Lord Raith: has to be more handsome than Thomas, so no one comes to my mind.

And lastly...Thomas. I have to admit that I thought of Matt Bomer as well. I can also see Michael Fassbender, who has been mentioned.

I suggest Henry Cavill (http://justjared.buzznet.com/photos/henry-cavill/) from The Tudors. See him with long hair (http://i48.tinypic.com/2r26tfq.jpg), and shirtless, dirty and fighting (http://www.mostbeautifulman.com/news/?p=2451#more-2451).

My personal pick is someone probably no one has heard of! English ballet dancer/actor Will Kemp (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0962261/mediaindex). Dubbed the "James Dean of Ballet," he may be best known for this Gap commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ap5WW80yg) from some years back. Will as the Swan in the all-male version of Swan Lake (http://i46.tinypic.com/wlbnnm.jpg). He's who I picture as Thomas when I read the books.

Also, this poster (http://www.scifiscoop.com/wp-content/gallery/movie-posters/dorian_gray_poster_2.jpg) for Dorian Gray made me think that Ben Barnes (aka Prince Caspian) might be a possible Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on June 09, 2010, 04:02:38 PM
This thought hit me last night, and he might be a bit young but David Mitchell as Wizard Peabody...Just picture him saying "You're an untidy person."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 09, 2010, 05:59:26 PM
@ Treacle Tart

I wish my poll were still up here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18318.0.html),
but unfortunately my thread hasn't been reopened since McAnally's (The Community Pub) renovation.

Anywho Timothy Olyphant didn't do so well in the poll. Personally I was for Lee Pace, but Nathan Fillion was winning before the poll dissappeared. Hugh Jackman, Zachary Quinto and Chris Evans also had more votes than Olyphant as well. But there were only about 23 votes when it closed.

The poll was a rather large selection due to suggestions:
Zachary Quinto
Lee Pace
Ryan Reynolds
Hugh Jackman
Clive Owen
Adrian Brody
Paul Bettany
Timothy Olyphant
Nathan Fillion
Hugh Laurie
Joe Flanigan
Chris Evans
Gerard Butler
Neil Flynn
Jared Paladecki

As I said though the poll never really got a chance to get going with only 23 votes, and Fillion was winning with 6 as I recall. I thought Fillion would make a better Michael if anything.

Michael: Viggo was also my choice, with Sean Bean as runner up, coincidentally Aragorn and Borimir in LOTR.

Murphy: Yeah I have seen a lot of suggestions, and yeah I actually thought of Hayden Panettiere too because of her role in Heroes, but she is too young. In my fake cast I have Naomi Watts for this but I am not 100% satisfied with that fit. Sarad Michelle Gellar....haven't really seen her around lately. Don't get me wrong, I was like head over heels for her back when Buffy started, but I don't think she could be Murphy. Too bad Michelle Pfeiffer is 50ish now, Catwoman Pfeiffer probably would have worked.....maybe....still doesn't fit though.

Charity: I had a hard time with this one too. I have Famke Janssen (http://www.hollywood-celebrity-pictures.com/Celebrities/Famke-Janssen/Famke-Janssen-7.JPG) for this because I could see her playing opposite Viggo, and playing the overprotective mother with a dark secret. Someone suggested Michelle Pfeiffer, but once again she is 50ish and probably wouldn't work opposite Viggo as Michael.

Molly:I do love me some True Blood, and I like Deborah Ann Woll, I can definitely see that, but I still like D Fanning cause I thought she did a great job in Push, and soon we will see her actually get to do some stuff in the next Twilight Saga installment, might make you change your mind, albeit Twilight sux, but I read them all anyway, and her character as one of the Witch Twins, is a pretty cool character.

Sanya: Boris Kodjoe? I know I have seen him before, but I can't really remember him. Does he have an accent, I see he is from Austria, that would probably pass as a Russian accent to most Americans. My choice was Djimon Hounsou (http://top-10-list.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Djimon-Hounsou.jpg), albeit his has an African accent.

Ivy: I still like my choice Chloe Moretz (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/33399.jpg)


Kincaid: I love Alexander Skarsgard, as I already mentioned I love True Blood, and I am so dissapointed he isn't playing Thor in the movie. However, I still see Jason Statham (http://www.seenonrealestate.com/wp-content/gallery/61/actor-jason-statham-pays-10625m-for-3355-square-foot-house-malibu-colony-ca.jpg) as more of a Kincaid the Hellhound.

Ramirez: I like both Gael Garcia Bernal or Diego Luna, but I still go with Freddy Rodríguez (http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/070322/cover/freddy_l.jpg) because he was awesome in Planet Terror.

Luccio: Jennifer Garner.....I just really don't like her. I like your choice of Carey Mulligan. I haven't really seen too much of her stuff but she has a good look. I wonder if she can do an Italian accent.

Marcone: Jason Isaacs I can definitely see him as Tiger Souled, then again remember this (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/news/00020767.jpg), he played an evil wizard in Harry Potter. Ralph Fiennes, also in Harry Potter, I have to say I can't see Lord Voldemort as a mobster. Guy Pearce....maybe, he was pretty awesome in Memento, and he wasn't in Harry Potter.

Nic: Bill Nighy. Yes, Bill Nighy was my first choice (you probably read my post ~_~), but it was pointed out to me that Nic is suppose to look 30ish, so I changed it to Gary Oldman (http://jessefox1968.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/garyoldman.jpg) (coincidentally Sirius Black in Harry Potter), granted Oldman is 50ish, still looks much younger than Nighy.

Lara Raith: Angelina Jolie, yeah that works. I have Angelina down as Lashiel because she has the Temptress thing down. I guess that works for Lara too.

Madeline Raith: Megan Fox, I can't really see her as Madeline. Besides that if you cast Jolie as Lara and Megan as Madeline, there is too much of an age gap there, they should be about the same age. I have Megan as Maeve, the Lady of Winter.

Lord Raith: As suggested by someone else, Vincent Cassal. I think it could work.

Thomas: Thomas is difficult because he has to be able to look enough like Harry that you would think brothers, and also look like the son of Lord Raith and Margaret Lefay. Originally when I thought Clive Owen should play Harry Dresden, I chose Jake Gyllenhaal (http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/gyllenhaal-prince-persia-1.jpg) as my Thomas because I can see the two as being brothers. Now....well I still like him as Thomas.

p.s. if you aren't clicking the links, you are totally missing the context.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Treacle Tart on June 10, 2010, 08:56:18 AM
@ MoSeS_

Re: the poll for who could play Harry

Hmm....I disagree with most of those choices - LOL! I love Nathan Fillion but I cannot see him as Harry at all. He'd make a better Michael but I picture Michael as being older.

Murphy - I think Hayden Panettiere's built is what any actress playing Murphy should have, but Hayden Panettiere would be totally wrong for the role. The problem is finding actresses with that sort of built, especially in Hollywood. Even if they start out with a more solid, muscular body type, they almost inevitably diet and exercise to become your typical skinny size zero. Look at the difference between Buffy S1 Sarah Michelle Gellar, and S2+.

I guess for me, I like to see an actor or actress actually look like the character as described, so when I read many of the suggestions, I just go, too thin! Too scrawny! NOT built like a brickhouse! NOT handsome enough! Too porky! I'm just particular that way.  ;D

Boris Kodjoe for Sanya - Check out this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0K0ben9dy4) of him. Also, he's going to be in the new J.J. Abrams spy series called Undercovers.

Kincaid - I think ASkars trumps Jason Statham any day! Besides, isn't Kincaid supposed to have long blond hair that he wears in a ponytail sometimes? Would be problematic for Jason Statham unless they put him in a hairpiece.

Ramirez - guess I still have bad associations when it comes to Freddy Rodríguez since I mostly know him from Six Feet Under, and I pretty much hated Rico towards the end of that show! Besides, Gael Garcia Bernal would make a very pretty Warden. Albeit, a tad hard to believe as a virgin.....

Bill Nighy for Nic - as much as I am a stickler for "actor must look like character as described in the books," I'll make an exception here as I just love Bill Nighy and he would be awesome as Nic.

Megan Fox as Madeline Raith - I chose Megan as I actually do not care for her. She's been described as the poor man's Angelina Jolie, and to me, she is perfect as the overblown, too-obvious, trying-way-too-hard Madeline. Somehow, I always pictured her as being younger than Lara.

Vincent Cassal as Lord Raith: I agree he has the predatory cruelty quality, but handsomer than Thomas? Any of the Thomases suggested so far? That's a major fail for me.

And I thought of someone for Butters: Simon Pegg! Here he is, with dark hair (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080325/people-simon-pegg/images/b75e5a9b-5524-4a28-a492-73a477ed85da.jpg).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 10, 2010, 11:30:12 AM
I personally think it's more important that they have the attitude of the character (OF COURSE, what they look like is seriously important too), but am just saying. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on June 10, 2010, 12:54:56 PM
@ Treacle Tart
I wish my poll were still up here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18318.0.html),
but unfortunately my thread hasn't been reopened since McAnally's (The Community Pub) renovation.

You could post a new poll.  Things being moved and removed were simple housekeeping.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 10, 2010, 02:41:48 PM
@Blaze - I could start a new poll, but I then I would have to attract everyone to my new thread.


@Treacle Tart
Kincaid has hair? I thought he was bald.....the whole time I have been reading the books, I must have zoned out when they described his physical appearance and from his attitude I just pictured him bald or kind of military style because he is basically a mercenary, and Statham is playing in that upcoming merc movie The Expendables.

As far as ASkars trumping Statham...AGREED! Eric Northman character is probably my favorite True Blood character, I can't wait til that comes back on. But I picked Statham because I picture Kincaid more rugged, and ASkars is too pretty for the Kincaid in my head, he did play a Meekus (green shirt) in Zoolander after all.
ORANGE MOCA FRAPPACINO!
(http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/orange-mocha-frappaccino.jpg)

And does anyone else think ASkars should be THOR in the movie, would that not be perfect. Oh well, I guess I will give the Chris Hemsworth guy a chance. Not like I have a choice ~_O

I only know F. Rodriguez from Planet Terror, Harsh Times, Lady in the Water, and Scrubs(which was a small role). I never watched Six Feet Under. But I picked him based solely off Planet Terror because I thought El Wray was a great character and so similar to the character Ramirez. Have you seen Planet Terror? His characters quote is "I never miss" and at the end.....ah man....what a great movie. I love Robert Rodriguez movies. Funny how they advertise the new Predators movie as a Robert Rodriguez film even though he is producing it and not directing it. I hate when they do that. I remember when Tarantino "presented" Hero, and Cloverfield was a "J.J. Abrams project", and Guillermo Del Toro's The Oprhange, etc. They always try to fool me by tacking some big name on there even though they only produced it or something, which IMO has very little to do with Directing it.

Bill Nighy, I chose him because of Underworld as Viktor (one of at least my top ten movies). I thought his role in that is soo much like the Nic character. Even his role in Pirates was kind of that "join me forever as one of my cursed crewman" which is sort of like the Denarians.

You don't like Megan Fox? she did kind of seem like a......well she didn't seem very nice at the movie awards when Andy Sanbreg hosted. And she got fired from the next Transformers for getting into with the director i think. But damn is she smokin'. Yeah I also saw a lot of references to her as the poor man's A. Jolie. Maybe they should do Mother/Daughter roles like Mab and Maeve, although the Queen of Winter and Lady of Winter don't technically have to be blood relatives....if Faeries even have blood. Then I can just swap A. Jolie and M. Belucci in my fake cast. ~_O

Lord Raith. Yeah I like Cassal, but I wasn't really feelin' that either. I am kind of picturing Lucius Malfoy/Jason Isaacs for this. Funny how some of the Harry Potter cast fits for this. i.e. Gary Oldman, Jason Isaacs, etc. okay maybe not that many.

Simon Pegg as Butters, that's okay, but what about Steve Buscemi or Paul Reubens.
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_aoxXydvUqL4/TBD7heHb4HI/AAAAAAAAAVA/3Vs0kUeDu6A/s800/15deli600.jpg)(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_aoxXydvUqL4/TBD8czZLV_I/AAAAAAAAAVI/gQOMHKMbIFc/s800/paul-reubens_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 10, 2010, 04:28:03 PM
That's not bad, but Amanda Seyfried is 25 years old, and Dakota Fanning is 16/17 which is about the same age as Molly is in the current storyline. Dakota could age with the movies, Seyfried might be a little to old to do that.


Uh. At the time of Changes, Molly is in her early 20s.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 10, 2010, 05:22:51 PM
Uh. At the time of Changes, Molly is in her early 20s.

Thats right, I am thinking about around the time she becomes his apprentice, but regardless that's the 12th book. She is 14 when she is first introduced in the series.
So if they started making the movies right now, by the time they got to the movie for Changes, Seyfried would be like at least 37. She wouldn't look like she was in her early 20s.

In 12 years Dakota will be like 28, that would be perfect for changes.

*Theoretically if they did 1 movie per book/per year starting right now
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 10, 2010, 05:29:28 PM
and when interduced, two books later that produces many ewwws
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 10, 2010, 06:16:02 PM
Kincaid - I think ASkars trumps Jason Statham any day! Besides, isn't Kincaid supposed to have long blond hair that he wears in a ponytail sometimes? Would be problematic for Jason Statham unless they put him in a hairpiece.

As for hair, Statham can grow hair, it just doesn't look good on him.
(http://media.sbs.com.au/films/upload_media/site_28_rand_326935994_revolver_pub_627.jpg)

because instead of a forehead he has like and eighthead.

But again, does Kincaid really have long blond hair? I don't remember that. Does anyone have the exerpt where the describe Kincaid's physical description?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 11, 2010, 12:02:43 AM
I think Ray Wise would be a very good John Marcone. Take a look:

(http://www.screencap-paradise.com/caps/albums/Series/Bones/season2/bones001/bones201_620.jpg)

He's kinda got that grandfatherly-soccer-coach-possible-mob-boss look to him. This picture of him is actually taken from a screen cap in the Season 2 episode of Bones, The Titan on The Track. He played a crooked PI that killed a senator or something.

There's a bit of a striking resemblance between him and the graphic novel drawing of Marcone in the comic version of Storm Front. And there's the fact that he was born in Akron, Ohio.

Not that it really means anything to anyone other than me :) (Ohio born and bred here -- I get excited when I find actors and actresses that are from my home state.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 11, 2010, 12:12:25 AM
But again, does Kincaid really have long blond hair? I don't remember that. Does anyone have the exerpt where the describe Kincaid's physical description?

Page 107 of the Paperback edition of Death Masks:


      A man stood on my doorstep. He was nearly as tall as me but looked a lot more solid, with shoulders wide enough to make the loose black jacket he wore fit tightly on his upper arms. He wore a navy blue shirt and stood so that I could see the wrinkles caused by the straps of a shoulder rig. A black ball cap reined in dark golden hair that might have fallen to his shoulders. He hadn't shaved in a few days, and had a short, white scar below his mouth that highlighted the cleft in his chin. His eyes were grey-blue and empty of any expression in a way I had seldom seen.


For some reason, I am now picturing Josh Holloway, who played Sawyer on Lost.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_plko_xPF_nk/S6M9E1PEogI/AAAAAAAABEU/f6_eKM4woWk/s320/Sawyer+Lost.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Treacle Tart on June 11, 2010, 12:24:49 AM
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I personally think it's more important that they have the attitude of the character (OF COURSE, what they look like is seriously important too), but am just saying. xD

I don't disagree, but for me, the look is more important. I don't care if an Oscar-winning actor gets cast as a Dresden character and has the attitude - if they look nothing like the physical description of that character, that would be a fail for me.

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does Kincaid really have long blond hair? I don't remember that. Does anyone have the exerpt where the describe Kincaid's physical description?

from Death Masks:
He was nearly as tall as me but looked a lot more solid....A black ball cap reined in dark golden hair that might have fallen to his shoulders.

Kincaid walked in, in the same outfit I'd seen that morning, but without the baseball cap. His dark blond hair was instead pulled back into an unruly tail.


from Blood Rites:
He was a big guy, almost my own height, with dark golden hair just long enough to look a little exotic.

The lean mercenary was dressed in greys and dull blues, very nondescript, and had his hair pulled into a ponytail under a black baseball cap.


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As far as ASkars trumping Statham...AGREED! Eric Northman character is probably my favorite True Blood character, I can't wait til that comes back on. But I picked Statham because I picture Kincaid more rugged, and ASkars is too pretty for the Kincaid in my head, he did play a Meekus (green shirt) in Zoolander after all.

But ASkars also played Iceman in Generation Kill:
(http://i46.tinypic.com/ivwvwm.jpg)

And actually, Rudy Reyes from Generation Kill would make a pretty good Ramirez!
(http://i50.tinypic.com/hrhbht.jpg)

Steve Buscemi or Paul Reubens as Butters - how old is Butters supposed to be anyway? Because those suggestions seem too old to me.

As far as how old Molly is when she becomes a major character, I am pretty sure that Molly is supposed to look older than her actual age. So to me, casting someone who looks really young like Dakota Fanning, does not work for me. Not to mention, I have a big problem with her skinny built for Molly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 11, 2010, 07:34:09 AM
decently old, because he feels wrong about having a thing for molly in wn
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 02:29:55 PM
Wow! I am ashamed that I blanked out during the description of Kincaid in the books. I remember the ponytail part now that I saw it again, but I guess I got so caught up in his actions that I just automatically chose someone I could picture as cold, methodic, and capable.

Now that I think about it the Eric Northman character is all of those, so I must concede, yes ASkars would make a good Kincaid.

I am sure you all know how it is when you get someone stuck in your head for a character, now I just have to get Statham out of my head for the Hellhound. But I still think Statham would have been great in some action scenes.

Josh Holloway guy also has the right look to (now that I have been reminded of the correct description of Kincaid). Though I don't watch Lost. I know that's probably some kind of sin since it was like the number one show.

Butters... Well I am not really sure how old he is, but being a medical examiner I just imagined he would be at least late 30's if not 40's. I guess they are a little older for the part, Buscemi is 52, Reubens is 57. But I think the fit the character perfectly with the polka playing and the qwerkiness and geekiness.
I definitely cannot see Simon Pegg for this part......Waldo Butters with a British accent.....not feeling that.


Molly... so she looks older than her age, I don't think that means when she is 14 she looks like she is 25, I think it means when she is 14 she looks like she is 17.
 (http://tonicgossip.com/wp-content/dakota-fanning-push-1.jpg)
Dakota is a little skinny, but she has played similar roles, Push and Twilight Saga, so I think that qualifies her more than anyone else suggested thus far. Plus yeah she looks young right now because she is 16, she might even fill out some to.

I admit even though Seyfried is 24 she could pass for like 17. But this picture with these eyes really screams to me...
Leanansidhe!!!!!
(http://www.freshnews.in/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Amanda-Seyfried.jpg)

Then again, this picture also makes her look like she should be in the Summer Court.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 02:40:03 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 11, 2010, 02:46:34 PM
Wow! I am ashamed that I blanked out during the description of Kincaid in the books. I remember the ponytail part now that I saw it again, but I guess I got so caught up in his actions that I just automatically chose someone I could picture as cold, methodic, and capable.

Don't be ashamed. The point of the matter is that Kincaid IS all those things. He just happens to be rather good-looking, too. Explains why Murph fell for him, even though she didn't seem to want to.

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Josh Holloway guy also has the right look to (now that I have been reminded of the correct description of Kincaid). Though I don't watch Lost. I know that's probably some kind of sin since it was like the number one show.

Well, then I'm going to hell, since I've never seen the show, and I refused to watch it. I just know Josh Holloway because of his eyes. I had to actually look up his name, because I could only think of him by his character's name on the show.

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I admit even though Seyfried is 24 she could pass for like 17. But this picture with these eyes really screams to me...
Leanansidhe!!!!!
(http://www.freshnews.in/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Amanda-Seyfried.jpg)

Then again, this picture also makes her look like she should be in the Summer Court.

I skipped your other two observations, because I don't currently have any new observations on who would play a good Butters (I still think the dude that played Faramir in LoTR would make a good Butters... but his hair is blonde, and Butters' hair is black) or Molly (I keep seeing Dakota as that tiny little girl from, uh... whatsit called, Charlotte's Web. What about Annasophia Robb?)

Anyway, about Amanda -- it's the eyes. It's always the eyes :) Are they green? I can't tell. If they're green, even in the slightest form, she could play Winter Sidhe or Summer. If she played Lea, though, she'd have to be willing to dye her hair crimson.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 03:51:23 PM
The guy that played Faramir is David Wenham.
(http://www.ageofthering.com/atthemovies/cast/davidwenham.jpg)

I still see someone qwerkier and geekier for Butters.

If everyone agrees that Buscemi and Reubens are too old. What about Justin Long? I think he does geeky and cowardly pretty well (see Live Free Die Hard). And Long is 32 years old.
(http://www.b105.com/blog/media/justin-long1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 04:16:53 PM
I just had a thought....Simon Pegg could have a part.... Binder. Binder is Scottish right? I think Pegg can do that accent. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 04:25:36 PM
Other thought. If we make ASkars Kincaid, then I bump Statham to Warden Morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on June 11, 2010, 04:30:19 PM
Other thought. If we make ASkars Kincaid, then I bump Statham to Warden Morgan.

Statham as Morgan, I could get behind that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 11, 2010, 04:50:17 PM
for me it's Stephan Lang as morgan
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: rose29206 on June 11, 2010, 05:37:56 PM
I've been googling to see who fits my mental images somewhat. Here's what I've found:

Kincaid : Karl Urban.
Thomas : Justin Hartley, even though he's blond.
Michael : Viggo Mortensen (not perfect, but something like that)

I can't quite decide, but Harry is somewhat like Eduardo Verastegui in certain pics.

Murphy : Meg Ryan is the closest I can come to my image ... I have a really hard time picturing Murphy as a blond, though. She always seemed brunette to me.

Charity: Meryl Streep
Molly : Picture something like a punk Kate Bosworth.

Susan: Catherine Zeta Jones


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 05:39:32 PM
Stephen Lang was who I had first, but if I had choose, to keep Statham in, I would replace Lang with Statham.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 05:57:51 PM
I've been googling to see who fits my mental images somewhat. Here's what I've found:

Kincaid : Karl Urban.
Thomas : Justin Hartley, even though he's blond.
Michael : Viggo Mortensen (not perfect, but something like that)

I can't quite decide, but Harry is somewhat like Eduardo Verastegui in certain pics.

Murphy : Meg Ryan is the closest I can come to my image ... I have a really hard time picturing Murphy as a blond, though. She always seemed brunette to me.

Charity: Meryl Streep
Molly : Picture something like a punk Kate Bosworth.

Susan: Catherine Zeta Jones





Sorry rose but have to disagree with most of these for a movie (but I can't disagree with how you see them in your head ~_~)

I'll explain.

Karl Urban as Kincaid- no explanation here, I just don't see him as Kincaid.
Justin Hartley as Thomas- I don't know who he is.
Viggo as Michael - Good choice, Sean Bean would be another
Meg Ryan (48) as Murphy -  I loved Meg Ryan when I was growing up. Michelle Pfeiffer, Kathy Ireland, etc. These were my generation of celebrity females. But Meg is little old now to be Murphy. And Meg didn't age well either.
Meryl Streep (60) as Charity - too old, and can you picture Meryl as the wife of Viggo.....uhhhh no.
Kate Bosworth as Molly - Kate is pretty, I am not too sure about her as Molly though.
Catherine Zeta Jones (40) as Susan - a little older than I would picture Susan, Jones would make a good Arianna Ortega


Keep in mind is easier to make someone look older than it is to make someone look younger.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 07:02:27 PM
One of the caveats with casting some of these characters is that some of them are immortals.

The Vampires, The Denarians, The Fey, etc.

So casting them by how old the are suppose to look versus who could act most like that character seems to be a challenge.

Most of the suggestions are either to young or too old in someones opinion so I think there should be some liberties taken with both looks and ages if a film series were ever made.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on June 11, 2010, 07:04:40 PM
I thoguht Arianna Ortega looked 16?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 07:06:51 PM
Isn't Arianna Ortega the wife of Duke Ortega, and didn't Duke Ortega look older. I assumed Arianna looked older too.

But your probably right, they are vampires after all, they could look 15 and be 1500.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 11, 2010, 07:19:30 PM
David webnam is a great actor, and he really gets into his roles, so he would dye his hair black, i mean viggo is blond and he was aragorn, they just died it, and as butters it would be awesome! he has already done nerdy guy, he was the friar in van hellsing, he also does bad guy well. i can see him as Kincaid too
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 07:29:00 PM
David webnam is a great actor, and he really gets into his roles, so he would dye his hair black, i mean viggo is blond and he was aragorn, they just died it, and as butters it would be awesome! he has already done nerdy guy, he was the friar in van hellsing, he also does bad guy well. i can see him as Kincaid too

Your right about his part in Van Helsing being pretty cowardly and qwerky, but I am trying to picture him doing a one man polka band and I can't see it, he just doesn't look goofy enough to me.

I think he would be better as like one of the Denarians, or maybe Peabody, or the British guy who gaurds the way at Eddenburrough, or Binder, or the Loup-garou.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 11, 2010, 07:33:34 PM
awesome loup garu, would be a cool nico, maybe the brit, i can see him as binder,
as for goofy, not a lot of actors out there that are goofy, other then like will Ferrel, and just...no. i can see the kid from live free or die hard or that guy from zombie land,
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 07:41:51 PM
For those who never saw my cast here is the male cast (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en) and the female cast (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANzdkMzVmYzQtNmU1OS00YmNlLWJjZDItMDYyMzg3NTlhMWQ2&hl=en)

except move A. Skarsgard to Kincaid, Statham to Warden Morgan (or keep Lang, I am torn), add Bruce Willis as Mac, replace Buscemi with Justin Long, add Simon Pegg as Binder, and David Wenham as Peabody or Loup Garou.

There, I think we almost have it.

*the reason I didn't update the pdf is because the word doc I use to create it has now gotten so large that it takes forever to work with.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 07:45:19 PM
would be a cool nico

I was thinking also he could be a pretty good Nic, but only if Gary Oldman and Bill Nighy weren't available.

And yes I know Nighy is older than Nicodemus is suppose to look, but come on, in Underworld as Viktor, and the "join my cursed crew" in Pirates of the Caribbean, it's soo Nicodemus.

And Oldman as Sirius Black....I think that's pretty close too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 07:55:45 PM
The ultimate toughest casting, who should play Mouse and Mister?

Mouse (he is a chinese fu dog)
(http://www.nndb.com/people/759/000022693/jackie-chan.jpg) in this costume(http://www.weirdthings.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/funnydogcostumes.jpg)

Mister
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Mickey_Rourke_6.jpg)this costume(http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/34203.jpg)

I know what your thinking............and I agree.................AWESOME!!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Treacle Tart on June 11, 2010, 10:51:05 PM
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Butters... Well I am not really sure how old he is, but being a medical examiner I just imagined he would be at least late 30's if not 40's. I guess they are a little older for the part, Buscemi is 52, Reubens is 57. But I think the fit the character perfectly with the polka playing and the qwerkiness and geekiness.
I definitely cannot see Simon Pegg for this part......Waldo Butters with a British accent.....not feeling that.

Simon Pegg is an actor, and actors often act in different accents. The fact that he is British isn't a disqualifier.

Here's how Butters is described:

from Dead Beat:
Butters was a little guy, maybe five-foot-three in his shoes, maybe 120 pounds soaking wet....He had a shock of wiry black hair that gave him a perpetual look of surprise that stopped just short of being a perpetual look of electrocution.

"Screw up my life?" He stared a me for a second and then said, deadpan, "I'm a five-foot-three, thirty-seven-year-old, single, Jewish medical examiner who needs to pick up his lederhosen from the dry cleaners so that he can play in a one-man polka band at Oktoberfest tomorrow." He pushed up his glasses with his forefinger, folded his arms, and said, "Do your worst."


from White Night:
Butters was an odd little duck. He wasn’t much taller than Murphy, and she probably had more muscle than he did. His shock of black hair resembled nothing so much as an explosion in a steel wool factory. He was all knees and elbows, especially in the surgical greens he was wearing, his face was lean and angular, his nose beaky, and his eyes were bright behind the prescription glasses.

Sorry but 5'10" (approx.) and not-odd-looking-at-all David Wenham would be totally wrong for Butters imo.

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Molly... so she looks older than her age, I don't think that means when she is 14 she looks like she is 25, I think it means when she is 14 she looks like she is 17.

But she is around 17-18 in Proven Guilty, when she actually becomes one of the main characters, not 14.

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Dakota is a little skinny, but she has played similar roles, Push and Twilight Saga, so I think that qualifies her more than anyone else suggested thus far. Plus yeah she looks young right now because she is 16, she might even fill out some to.

Maybe she could bulk up but can she grow taller than 5'3"?

Description of Molly from Proven Guilty:

She strongly favored her mother, Charity. Both of them were tall for women, only an inch or two under six feet, both of them blond, fair, blue- eyed, and both of them built like the proverbial brick house, somehow managing to combine strength, grace and beauty that showed as much in their bearing, expression, and movement as it did in their appearance.

I just cannot see Dakota Fanning as Molly at all.

But I could definitely get behind Stephen Lang as Morgan though, much more than Jason Statham, who imo, has rather limited acting abilities.

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Sorry rose but have to disagree with most of these for a movie .....Meg Ryan (48) as Murphy -  I loved Meg Ryan when I was growing up. Michelle Pfeiffer, Kathy Ireland, etc. These were my generation of celebrity females. But Meg is little old now to be Murphy. And Meg didn't age well either.

I have to disagree with that list too, and you're so right that Meg didn't age well. Not to mention, the bad plastic surgery that turned her into the Joker with fish lips.

Murphy is a hard one to cast, because I have a very specific image of what she should look like from the books:

from Storm Front:
Karrin and I are a study in contrasts. Where I am tall and lean, she's short and stocky. Where I have dark hair and dark eyes, she's got Shirley Temple blond locks and baby blues. Where my features are all lean and angular, with a hawkish nose and a sharp chin, hers are round and smooth, with the kind of cute nose you'd expect on a cheerleader.

from Blood Rites:
Lt. Karrin Murphy, the woman in charge of the Special Investigations division of Chicago PD, stood an even five feet...She was attractive in a pleasantly wholesome kind of way-crystal blue eyes, clear skin, an upturned nose.

Murphy wasn't going to qualify under anyone's definition of willowy or svelte , but she had the build of a gymnast-tough, flexible, and strong.


I can't think of any actress for the role myself, although I can certainly think "no!" to suggestions. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on June 12, 2010, 03:59:31 AM
Reese Witherspoon...


The question is... can she do action???

And for all of you out there thinking Kirsten Dunst, a pox upon you!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 12, 2010, 04:16:07 AM
And for all of you out there thinking Kirsten Dunst, a pox upon you!

gosh no. I don't like her, honestly.

I vote Diane Kruger, but she's too tall.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 12, 2010, 06:37:55 AM
I'm wondering (although she's 5'6") if this girl could pull of Murphy
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm399217152/nm0695560

Her name is Victoria Pratt. I had forgotten about her and hadn't seen anyone mention her name. She was in Mutant X the series and I think some other show I can't recall. She can kick butt, she's blond and she has the Murphy vibe.

Anyhow... just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 12, 2010, 07:02:59 AM
I'm wondering (although she's 5'6") if this girl could pull of Murphy
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm399217152/nm0695560

Her name is Victoria Pratt. I had forgotten about her and hadn't seen anyone mention her name. She was in Mutant X the series and I think some other show I can't recall. She can kick butt, she's blond and she has the Murphy vibe.

Anyhow... just my 2 cents.

oh yeah! I know her! I remember her! I think she can do Murphy. She's got the vibe, yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on June 13, 2010, 05:06:29 PM
I'm wondering (although she's 5'6") if this girl could pull of Murphy
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm399217152/nm0695560

Her name is Victoria Pratt.

I'll see your two cents and raise you a dollar. Definitely VERY Murphy!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 14, 2010, 04:59:09 AM
My vote for Thomas is THIS guy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRF9of0h0B8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRF9of0h0B8)

I think he's got the right mix of angst/intensity.  He does look like a cuter version of how I imagine Harry,
and this video just SCREAMS Thomas and Justine.  

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on June 14, 2010, 05:53:59 AM
I agree with the Murphy nomination - rereading the series now, and casting as I go :) she fits perfectly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 14, 2010, 02:05:47 PM
Who should play Murphy?

Kirsten Dunst - No, too young, I like her alright, but not as Murphy

Kristen Bell - No, too young and maybe not built enough, but close to how I picture Murphy

Hayden Panettiere - too young, but has the right attitude and build IMO

Michelle Pfieffer - too old now

Nicole Kidman - also too old now

Naomi Watts - I put her on my fake cast, but just as a place holder til i thought of a better Murphy.

Victoria Pratt - she has the build, I am not familiar with her acting though. So maybe.

Reese Witherspoon - I can't see her as Murphy.

Diane Lane - probably a little too old.

Uma Thurman - she doesn't at all fit the description, but Kill Bill was awesome
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 14, 2010, 02:51:09 PM
Butters. The more I think about it the more I like the idea of Justin Long as Butters. Especially since Butters is suppose to be Jewish, I think Justin Long passes for Jewish much more than Simon Pegg or David Wenham.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YdpghmDGGEA/S0bgIZuHD2I/AAAAAAAAA0Y/U-kYkcfWccI/s400/WPWLLM+-+Justin+Long.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 14, 2010, 03:00:11 PM
Molly. Ok ok, I give up advocating D. Fanning as Molly.

I still think her recent roles suit her for the part and I think she is dead on for the age if the filming were to start now and since she is 16 she very well may get taller.

My second choice, which was suggested by someone else earlier on this thread, would be Deborah Ann Woll because she plays a 17 year old vampire on True Blood, and she is a "fledgling" or whatever you call a vampire in training, which kind of makes her like an apprentice.
(http://theaterofmine.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/deborah-ann-woll.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 14, 2010, 03:39:19 PM
Butters. The more I think about it the more I like the idea of Justin Long as Butters. Especially since Butters is suppose to be Jewish, I think Justin Long passes for Jewish much more than Simon Pegg or David Wenham.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YdpghmDGGEA/S0bgIZuHD2I/AAAAAAAAA0Y/U-kYkcfWccI/s400/WPWLLM+-+Justin+Long.jpg)

He's freaking adorable.

Okay, I swing my vote for Justin Long as Butters. For now. Unless another guy who can play a crazy good Butters comes along :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 14, 2010, 06:25:29 PM
Not only is he adorable, but he can play goofy, geeky and qwerky, and he is 32 which is old enough to feel guilty about having a thing for Molly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 14, 2010, 06:54:06 PM
How do you insert an image?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Coalprin on June 14, 2010, 06:56:41 PM
(http://www.givememyremote.com/remote/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/johnny-galecki.jpg)

My pick for Butters. Johnny Galecki.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 14, 2010, 07:45:32 PM
How do you insert an image?


in your reply click the insert image button, the button right below the B (bold) button, then, insert the link to the image between

[*img]{url}[/img]

no asterik

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to see image above larger click here (http://doc-0c-18-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/eifuqqdpcro0asfea0bc9prgfsvblvop/1276538400000/05835411182615825942/*/0B8NfYpeXR_TAMzdhZTY4MzctMDM5Ny00ZTI4LWEwM2UtZGM4ZDFjYzFmZWU0)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 14, 2010, 08:09:50 PM
My pick for Butters. Johnny Galecki.

I like that choice too.

He does "awkward" well, and could probably do cowardly, and probably geeky, but I don't know about goofy and sarcastic. Not that Butters is that goofy or sarcastic but he is a little. I am sure this actor could pull it off.

He is one of the better suggestions so far, I could see him as Butters.

I see him as runner-up to J. Long, but I am probably just saying that because I thought of J. Long first.

And I actually remember Galecki from Roseanne.

I think the difference to me is that Galecki can play serious roles, and I would never be able to see Justin Long doing anything really serious, if he did I probably wouldn't take him seriously.

(http://www.intelligentrecords.com/Comments/WhySoSerious.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on June 14, 2010, 08:11:25 PM
in your reply click the insert image button, the button right below the B (bold) button, then, insert the link to the image between

[*img] link here [/img].

minus the asterik, put there to show what the code would look like.

(http://doc-0c-18-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/eifuqqdpcro0asfea0bc9prgfsvblvop/1276538400000/05835411182615825942/*/0B8NfYpeXR_TAMzdhZTY4MzctMDM5Ny00ZTI4LWEwM2UtZGM4ZDFjYzFmZWU0)

to see image above larger click here (http://doc-0c-18-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/eifuqqdpcro0asfea0bc9prgfsvblvop/1276538400000/05835411182615825942/*/0B8NfYpeXR_TAMzdhZTY4MzctMDM5Ny00ZTI4LWEwM2UtZGM4ZDFjYzFmZWU0)

Your screencap skills are superb. :) Seriously. One good picture takes the place of a lot of misunderstandable words.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 15, 2010, 02:56:16 AM
I haven't worked out perfect casting for all parts, but I've thought of Jordana Spiro as Murphy ever since I started reading The Dresden Files.

Similarly, I've thought for a while that Alana de la Garza would make a great Susan.


Is it a cliché to say that the descriptions of Thomas made me think of this guy?

Edited to remove the hotlinking mess I made. Thanks, MoSeS_!

Backing away from the computer now.  
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 15, 2010, 07:16:10 AM
Thanks for the help, lets see if this works.  I hope the image isn't to big.  Is there anyway to shrink the size with the image tags?  I also wouldn't want to take up too much space on this website.


My pick for Thomas.  He's 28, and he already has the grey eyes.

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad248/Scop_1/Tommy/LookingUp.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cass on June 15, 2010, 01:16:58 PM
...But who is he?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 15, 2010, 01:45:02 PM
I haven't worked out perfect casting for all parts, but I've thought of Jordana Spiro as Murphy ever since I started reading The Dresden Files.
 Jordana Spiro (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2744622336/nm0819079)
Similarly, I've thought for a while that Alana de la Garza would make a great Susan.
Alana de la Garza (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3146289152/nm1004211)
Is it a cliché to say that the descriptions of Thomas made me think of this guy?
Tom Welling (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2192547072/nm0919991)
Hmm. Dunno what I'm still doing wrong with the links.

First thing is your linking to a whole web page, not a link to an image. You can insert the link but not as images.

Second I don't think you can link to an image on imdb, they probably don't want hotlinking to increase their traffic.

Use google and search images. Then use those to insert image.

(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/07/03/cfb.mailbag/t1_spirotbs.jpg)(http://access.nscpcdn.com/gallery/i/g/garza/94564_D0270.jpg)(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/tom-welling.jpg)

Here are 3 images of the above mentioned actors.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 15, 2010, 02:03:34 PM
Thanks for the help, lets see if this works.  I hope the image isn't to big.  Is there anyway to shrink the size with the image tags?  I also wouldn't want to take up too much space on this website.
My pick for Thomas.  He's 28, and he already has the grey eyes.
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad248/Scop_1/Tommy/LookingUp.jpg)

yes you can resize it. just choose your width and height like this.

[img width=60 height=40]{url}[/url]

I think it will always size it down to width of 600 or height of 400 if it's larger, and it will size it proportionally.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 15, 2010, 04:39:34 PM
yes you can resize it. just choose your width and height like this.

I think it will always size it down to width of 600 or height of 400 if it's larger, and it will size it proportionally.

Thanks,
Please be patient with my while I try this out...
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad248/Scop_1/Tommy/03021122510_lee_mead_01_400.jpg)


Okay, a couple of trys and its working now.  YEA to the "Modify" function!!!
It didn't work when I left the image tag snipet in the Quote line, though.  Odd that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 15, 2010, 07:03:44 PM
...But who is he?

Oh, sorry, guess that would help.
He's Lee Mead.  He's a British Actor and Singer.

Here he is being all angsty in white.  It's from a Dutch TV show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XndxDf96jYo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XndxDf96jYo)

The song is Close Every Door from the musical Joseph, but if you ignore that
and a couple of the lyrics, it sort of fits.  Plus the weird set looks like some sort of magical prison
set up in the Never Never. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 15, 2010, 07:11:32 PM
Lee Mead, has a good look, but I am not familiar with his acting. But everyone has to start somewhere I guess.

He kind of reminds of the guy from Entourage though, Adrian Grenier, it's the hair I think.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Adrian_Grenier_by_David_Shankbone_cropped.jpg)
And before you think it, no I don't think Adrian Grenier could pull off the right Thomas attitude.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 15, 2010, 07:30:40 PM
It's always about the hair ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 15, 2010, 07:40:22 PM
@ Atanvarno

Tom Welling as Thomas, I'd back that. He has the strong silent type thing going on.

I have only seen a few episodes of Smallville, but I always wanted to watch the whole thing, I just never had the time to catch up on it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 15, 2010, 08:49:53 PM
I don't suppose you've missed much by not catching all of Smallville; I watched the first season, and the writing varied from uninspired to unfortunate. It's hard to tell if Welling's up to much as an actor, since the Clark Kent character is such a dip. I want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but...

But he certainly is, er, Bowflex-y. And gray-eyed. So there's that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 15, 2010, 08:56:33 PM
Tom Welling's not a bad choice, but he's not exactly waife thin these days with that Superman inverted A frame going on.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 15, 2010, 09:53:16 PM
For some reason though when they first introduced Thomas I had this image in my head.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/lovuian/ian1.jpg)
It's a character from the Witchblade comics.

And I have never read or seen any of the Dresden Files graphic novels so I don't know what any of the characters in that look like.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 15, 2010, 10:30:05 PM
I can defiately groc with the long flowing hair :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on June 15, 2010, 11:06:13 PM

Sorry rose but have to disagree with most of these for a movie (but I can't disagree with how you see them in your head ~_~)

I'll explain.

Karl Urban as Kincaid- no explanation here, I just don't see him as Kincaid.
Justin Hartley as Thomas- I don't know who he is.
Viggo as Michael - Good choice, Sean Bean would be another
Meg Ryan (48) as Murphy -  I loved Meg Ryan when I was growing up. Michelle Pfeiffer, Kathy Ireland, etc. These were my generation of celebrity females. But Meg is little old now to be Murphy. And Meg didn't age well either.
Meryl Streep (60) as Charity - too old, and can you picture Meryl as the wife of Viggo.....uhhhh no.
Kate Bosworth as Molly - Kate is pretty, I am not too sure about her as Molly though.
Catherine Zeta Jones (40) as Susan - a little older than I would picture Susan, Jones would make a good Arianna Ortega


Keep in mind is easier to make someone look older than it is to make someone look younger.

"Karl Urban as Kincaid- no explanation here, I just don't see him as Kincaid."

OK...before Urban got the role of Dr. McCoy, he had another thing in common with the late DeForest Kelley; both were routinely typecast as bad guys.

Urban as Kincaid, maybe...Warden Morgan, definitely
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 01:06:18 AM
"Karl Urban as Kincaid- no explanation here, I just don't see him as Kincaid."

OK...before Urban got the role of Dr. McCoy, he had another thing in common with the late DeForest Kelley; both were routinely typecast as bad guys.

Urban as Kincaid, maybe...Warden Morgan, definitely

All I can think of is Pathfinder and Chronicles of Riddick. And unfortunately both of those were not great movies. I am not saying it's Urban's fault, just unfortunate that he was in both of those.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 16, 2010, 01:20:51 AM
I still say:

Thomas Raith: Matt Bomer :P
http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

Karrin Murphy: Victoria Pratt (I think she fits)
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm399217152/nm0695560

And maybe for Butters this guy:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2959381504/nm0862328

He's on the show Bones. Plays a good nerdy type forensics guy.
He fits the profile I think for Butters.

Just another of my two cents.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 16, 2010, 03:43:49 AM
No argument on Bomer - the silvery colour scheme makes that picture seem highly relevant ;)

I don't think Pratt's the strongest actress, and she's too much the straight-up Amazon, it seems to me, for Murphy.

TJ Thyne is probably fine (ooch, sorry; that rhyme was unfortunate), but for some reason, I see Kevin Smith in my head when I read Butters' lines.

I also think of Will as being played by Seth Green, but that's no doubt the influence of Buffy.

I could buy Urban (or, oddly, David Wenham, don't ask me why) as Kincaid. I tend to think of Morgan as older. I found the TV choice for Morgan too dull. Morgan is not boring! In my head, Morgan looks like a combination of David Bradley (Argus Filch from the Harry Potter movies) and Brian Cox. I think Urban is quite underrated as an actor; he was very effective (and very different) in The Lord of the Rings and The Bourne Supremacy.

I didn't like any of the casting choices made for the TV series, except for Paul Blackthorne as Harry and Terrence Mann as Bob - though a very different version of Bob. Everybody else was a resounding meh or worse. (Valerie Cruz as Murphy?! Ack.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 01:43:22 PM
Matt Bomer, I checked out his IMDB and have to say WOW, I have never seen any of the stuff he has been in. That being the case I am unsure of his talent, therefore I would have to vote no.

Victoria Pratt, I completely agree with Atanvarno, I was thinking the same exact thing, too Amazon.

TJ Thyne, again, not familiar with his work, and when I saw the pic I did not see Butters at all.

Seth Green as Will Borden. I see the Buffy logic there, but Sethy is 36 now.

My pick for Will Borden is Emile Hirsch, he is 25, and I think he is a decent actor. I have not seen Speed Racer, but I liked him in The Girl Next Door.
(http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Emile-in-a-magazine-emile-hirsch-683937_766_1135.jpg)

Urban or Wenham as Kincaid. Neither. I can see Urban as like maybe a Denarian like Cassius and Wenham as Peabody, but neither of these would make a better Kincaid then Alexander Skarsgard. Though he was not my original choice.
(http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/alexander-skarsgard-as-eric.jpg)

For Morgan I think almost everyone agreed with my choice of Stephen Lang.
(http://www.silverfeast.com/wp-content/uploads/stephen_lang.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 16, 2010, 04:40:18 PM
I still say:

Thomas Raith: Matt Bomer :P
http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

Karrin Murphy: Victoria Pratt (I think she fits)
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm399217152/nm0695560

And maybe for Butters this guy:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2959381504/nm0862328

He's on the show Bones. Plays a good nerdy type forensics guy.
He fits the profile I think for Butters.

Just another of my two cents.

always been a fan of your cast list, j3nee. xD I love it. a lot. TJ Thyne ftw!

...do you have anyone in mind for harry? and... for the others?

I like the idea of viggo for michael, btw
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 04:42:40 PM
I had this same poll up before in McAnally's (The Community Pub) here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18318.0.html) and it was up to 23 votes, but due to the renovation of the forums it has been locked and that poll is gone.

The poll included Ryan Reynolds, Clive Owen, Adrian Brody, Paul Bettany, Hugh Laurie, Gerard Butler, Joe Flanigan, Neil Flynn, and Jared Paladecki, but due to the fact that each of those had about 1 vote each I decided to trim the list down.

I haven't figured out yet how long to run the poll or up to how many votes. In your opinion what would be a fair amount to decide. The first actor to reach 25 votes?

Later I would like to poll for additional characters, but naturally we should cast the star first.



POLL RESULTS AT CLOSE:

Lee Pace     - 1 (16.7%)
Zachary Quinto    - 0 (0%)
Hugh Jackman    - 0 (0%)
Timothy Olyphant    - 1 (16.7%)
Nathan Fillion    - 4 (66.7%)
Chris Evans    - 0 (0%)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 04:56:44 PM
always been a fan of your cast list, j3nee. xD I love it. a lot. TJ Thyne ftw!
...do you have anyone in mind for harry? and... for the others?
I like the idea of viggo for michael, btw

Hey, Viggo for Michael, that sounds like my cast list.  :P

Anywho I started a new poll here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18955.0.html) for who should play Harry Dresden.

Other polls to come later.





Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: stitchy1503 on June 16, 2010, 05:02:02 PM
Nathan Fillion...because that man is awesome, also i can see him being all detectivy and serious along with being snarky (watch castle for a good idea as to why i chose him)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 16, 2010, 05:02:14 PM
Love the Vig - he's the King of Men, after all. But I think he's too old to play Michael (for me). Morgan, on the other hand, hmm.

I noticed Jared Padalecki's name in the poll referred to above, and I meant to say I think he'd make a pretty good Thomas, if Matt Bomer or Tom Welling, you know, turned us down. But I think of him as looking too young to play Harry, in spite of the fact that I am absolutely convinced that he was an inspiration, if not the model, for Christian McGrath's cover art. I'd have no problem with him as Thomas, since Thomas is older than Harry, but doesn't look it. I want to say that there's a reference (before White Night?) to Thomas's looking younger than Harry, but I won't swear to it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on June 16, 2010, 05:45:53 PM
Sorry, but I really don't see Viggo Mortenson as Michael.  He does grungy, emotional roles (The Road, Appaloosa) far too well to be relegated to a paladin.  Even if he is Aragorn (minor squee!).

I'd much prefer him to be an antagonist, or someone hindering Harry rather than helping him - such as Morgan, or Lloyd Slate.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 16, 2010, 06:52:09 PM
i liked him in history of violence, if he looked like that,he would be like a perfect Michael,and val kilmer is my choice for kincaid, well, when he was younger
(http://thm-a03.yimg.com/nimage/0adf1110a4eaa95a)
(http://thm-a01.yimg.com/nimage/de12842f37b062cc)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 07:35:23 PM
Nathan Fillion was winning in the original poll too. That's so strange, I have had many people disagree with that choice, but he always seems to be ahead in the poll. Well we will see if he gets to 25 votes first.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 07:43:54 PM
Sorry, but I really don't see Viggo Mortenson as Michael.  He does grungy, emotional roles (The Road, Appaloosa) far too well to be relegated to a paladin.  Even if he is Aragorn (minor squee!).

I'd much prefer him to be an antagonist, or someone hindering Harry rather than helping him - such as Morgan, or Lloyd Slate.

I chose Viggo as Michael because of his role as Aragorn. Sean Bean was my second choice (coincidentally Boromir).

But someone (i think in this thread) pointed out he would make a good Marcone.
(http://www.bangitout.com/uploads/53viggo.jpg)
I am still not sold on this idea though, I don't know if Viggo could pull of the right attitude for Marcone.

As Morgan, eh, he'd probably be like my 5th choice.

As Slate, I picture Slate a little more stark raving mad drug user.

And btw that movie "The Road" was soooo super boring, I thought it was going to be a little more Mad Max.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 08:02:58 PM
This was my original choice for Slate. Sam Worthington.
(http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/l3/sam-worthington-0909-lg.jpg)
Really I just stuck him there because of his recent popularity though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on June 16, 2010, 08:06:02 PM
This topic has been discussed here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.0.html), among other places.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 08:11:16 PM
My second Slate choice. Matt Damon.
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/218/18787468an5.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/18787468an5.jpg/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 16, 2010, 08:15:53 PM
Not Nathan Fillion.  He's just not Harry.  Clive Owne sure, but you deleted him from the list.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 08:16:07 PM
And don't forget to vote for your favorite Dresden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on June 16, 2010, 08:17:51 PM
And don't forget to vote for your favorite Dresden here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18955.0.html)

Dude, the reason I pointed out this thread was so that we wouldn't have two threads covering mostly the same thing (as this thread includes everything your thread has except for a limited poll). Trying to keep the stress on Fred's server as low as possible, hmm?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 08:18:08 PM
This topic has been discussed here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.0.html), among other places.

I know, I have posted many times in that thread, but that's not my thread, so I can't do a poll on there.  :P

I have even asked to have my old thread about this merged with this one. I am way ahead of you on keeping the forums tidy.

For example, I have seen at least 5 threads about Sorcerer's Apprentice. They really should check before starting a new one.

I think this is an exception because of the poll though.

BTW did you vote? (see top of page)



Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 08:20:55 PM
Not Nathan Fillion.  He's just not Harry.  Clive Owne sure, but you deleted him from the list.

Clive Owen was my original choice too, but someone made a very valid point that Clive is too old, especially for Storm Front.

Clive might work if they started the movies with Changes.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 08:33:22 PM
Dang, why is Nathan always winning.

LEE PACE! LEE PACE!
(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/muudang/rough.jpg)(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ne5Lb2SiFHg/Sxf_dmFG1aI/AAAAAAAApEs/ckn7Jko2eI0/s400/lee+pace.jpg)

You have to watch Pushing Daisies then you will see he has that awkward humor and he is 6'3" and in Pushing Daisies he is basically a Necromancer.

Yeah I know that is against the laws of magic but I wonder about that
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 16, 2010, 09:20:34 PM
I chose Viggo as Michael because of his role as Aragorn. Sean Bean was my second choice (coincidentally Boromir).

But someone (i think in this thread) pointed out he would make a good Marcone.
(http://www.bangitout.com/uploads/53viggo.jpg)
I am still not sold on this idea though, I don't know if Viggo could pull of the right attitude for Marcone.



Heh. That was me.

Of course, then I reread the Marcone description and saw that he "didn't look like the sort of man who would have my legs broken or my jaw wired shut. His salt-and-pepper hair was cut short, and there were lines from sun and smiling etched into the corners of his eyes. His eyes were the green of well-worn dollar bills. He seemed more like a college football coach: good-looking, tanned, athletic, and enthusiastic." (page 29, Storm Front hardback edition) so, now my pick for Marcone is a less cold looking, warmer Ray Wise, who looks very warm, kind and fatherly, but also makes you weary that he just might be the one to cement your feet together and toss you in a river.

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080910/Emmys-Comedy/Ray-Wise-Reaper_l.jpg)

This guy has been everywhere, not even kidding. Seriously, check out his IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936403/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936403/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 16, 2010, 11:05:24 PM
i liked him in history of violence, if he looked like that,he would be like a perfect Michael,and val kilmer is my choice for kincaid, well, when he was younger
(http://thm-a03.yimg.com/nimage/0adf1110a4eaa95a)
(http://thm-a01.yimg.com/nimage/de12842f37b062cc)

would help if the pics are big enough for me to actually see them >.<

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080910/Emmys-Comedy/Ray-Wise-Reaper_l.jpg)

This guy has been everywhere, not even kidding. Seriously, check out his IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936403/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936403/)

O.O wow. when you say everywhere, you really *aren't* kidding.

I don't know why, but with that description of marcone, this guy comes to mind: (http://martianoutpost.com/images/brucegreenwood.jpg)

[ur=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0339304/l]Bruce Greenwood[/url]... oh look, it's captain pike from the new star trek...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 16, 2010, 11:10:17 PM
Quote
Dang, why is Nathan always winning?
"Because he's Nathan" seems a trifle self-evident; were you looking for a more sophisticated answer than "Awesome in a spell-encrusted duster would awesome squared"? ;) Also, he's Canadian.

I like Lee Pace; but I'm not sure he's Harry. (Is he even thirty-two yet?)

I really like the idea of Ray Wise as Gentleman Johnny Marcone.

It occurs to me that Nikolaj Coster-Waldau would make a great Nicodemus.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 17, 2010, 12:02:34 AM


O.O wow. when you say everywhere, you really *aren't* kidding.


LOL. Kinda awesome, isn't it? He's even been on Dawson's Creek :-/ And I only wised up to him (heh. get it? wised up? cuz his last name's Wise?... I'll shut up.) because I recently saw him in an episode of Bones where he played some sort of crooked P.I. dude. He looked like a perfectly nice old man, and then he turned out to be part of a murder, ya know?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: stitchy1503 on June 17, 2010, 01:25:22 AM
that guy looks more like a pretty boy...thomas perhaps :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 17, 2010, 04:20:34 AM
that guy looks more like a pretty boy...thomas perhaps :P

Nah, wouldn't look good in a loincloth with butterfly wings.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 17, 2010, 04:29:31 AM
Nah, wouldn't look good in a loincloth with butterfly wings.

Oh good god, ^ that image.

I still say based on looks alone, it should be WWE wrestler John Morrison. As far as acting goes... I know nothing about him, but he certainly acts completely prideful and full of himself, the way Thomas sort of did at the very beginning.

(http://www.celebrity-sunglasses-finder.com/image-files/john_morrison.gif)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 17, 2010, 04:55:21 AM
Oh good god, ^ that image.

I still say based on looks alone, it should be WWE wrestler John Morrison. As far as acting goes... I know nothing about him, but he certainly acts completely prideful and full of himself, the way Thomas sort of did at the very beginning.

(http://www.celebrity-sunglasses-finder.com/image-files/john_morrison.gif)

OOo good abs!  Definate loincloth material, but would he go for the buterfly wings?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Coalprin on June 17, 2010, 05:00:57 AM
Hmmmm, think they'd make him wear The Hat?  :D

 (http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/57747920/sn/1823678583/name/magichat2.jpg)
   "Check it, guys! I'm a Wee-Zard!!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: stitchy1503 on June 17, 2010, 01:29:02 PM
Hmmmm, think they'd make him wear The Hat?  :D

 (http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/57747920/sn/1823678583/name/magichat2.jpg)
   "Check it, guys! I'm a Wee-Zard!!"

well, i'm sold! :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 17, 2010, 02:43:09 PM
@j3nnee

Your inbox is full.

Anyhow. I don't know if you noticed, but I had a seperate thread about casting but I had added a poll to mine. So yesterday I requested to have them merge it with your thread and they did, but you now control it.

I figure first actor to get 25 votes should win. Then when the winner of that poll is decided. Then you could delete that poll and start one for Thomas, Murphy, or Michael. Those seem to be the next 3 most discussed characters. Followed by Molly, Marcone, and Nicodemus.

@everyone reading this thread

Sound about right to you all?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 17, 2010, 03:05:05 PM
Where does the image of Nathan in the trilby hat come from? It's new to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 17, 2010, 03:10:33 PM
Fillion - I still disagree with Nathan, but so far it looks like he is way ahead.
I guess it's because the only thing I have ever seen with him was Serenity

Pace - I did watch all of Pushing Daisies, which it seems like I might be the only one. I think he's great.

Olyphant - Haven't looked at him the same since Hitman, that movie was soo super cheesy.

Renolds - Everyone seems to be hatin' on Renolds as Deadpool, I thought he worked out.

Quinto - Well come on, Sylar is awesome! Not to mention Spock.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on June 17, 2010, 03:53:30 PM
(http://100grana.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/push3.jpg)

Give him the duster and staff and that's done, in my opinion.  I still stand by Chris Evans :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 17, 2010, 04:13:24 PM
(http://100grana.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/push3.jpg)

Give him the duster and staff and that's done, in my opinion.  I still stand by Chris Evans :D

My original choice was Clive Owen, but he is too old.

Now my first choice would be Lee Pace.

My second choice would probably be a tie between Zachary Quinto and Chris Evans.

Quinto might be a little too serious to pull off the snarky Harry.

And Evans might do funny too well. I remember Not Another Teen Movie. But he was pretty serious in Push, which i loved btw.

I also thought Dakota would make a good Molly because of this role.

And coincidentally Djimon Hounsou would make a good Sanya, but because of his role in Gladiator.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 17, 2010, 04:17:46 PM
OOo good abs!  Definate loincloth material, but would he go for the buterfly wings?

I used to watch wrestling regularly. He used to glue sequins in the lines of his abs. I don't really think he'll have much of a problem with butterfly wings :) Especially since his body will be entirely on display as he stands next to a Harry who's dressed as a cheesy vampire :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 17, 2010, 04:21:52 PM
YES!  I love a man who can do sequins :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 17, 2010, 04:35:59 PM
Okay, so I was kind of surprised when I did a celebrity recognition run on Matt Bomer (who I still demand for Thomas. John Morrison is my second choice by way of The God of Bowflex body.). I wanted to see if there were any particular male celebrities that looked enough like him that could be cast as Harry as well, and this is who I got (I'll add the percentage of matching as they pertain to Matt).

So here's Matt Bomer:
(http://catherinette.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/matt_bomer.jpg)

And this is everyone that the facial recognition thingy thinks looks like him. I agree on maybe two of them:

*Josh Holloway 63%
Hayden Christiansen 55% (NO.)
Gael Garcia Bernal 55% (NO.)
*Ian Somerhalder 54%
Josh Hartnett 53% (NO.)
Ronan Keating 53% (NO.)
Leonardo DiCaprio 52% (NO.)
Oded Fehr 49% (NO.)
Frank Lampard 48% (Definite NO. I'm wondering if the face recognition thing really knows what it's doing. The picture they used for this guy looks more like a match for Elijah Wood than for Matt Bomer.)

I've already named Josh Holloway as my pick to play Kincaid, so he's out. Which leaves Ian Somerhalder who has more of a resemblance to Bomer than Holloway does. Once again, I wonder if the FCR knows what it's doing, or not.) Somerhalder is on the CW hit show The Vampire Diaries (not that I've watched it. I've been so played out on the new vamp shows/movies that I've been clinging to Buffy with both arms and legs.) Aside from TVD, I know nothing about Somerhalder's acting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 17, 2010, 04:42:31 PM
YES!  I love a man who can do sequins :)

LOL. I personally thought it was awesome. But dear god, don't try doing a google image search on it. I found everything BUT that picture. :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on June 17, 2010, 04:47:36 PM
OOo good abs!  Definate loincloth material, but would he go for the buterfly wings?

He's a pro wrestler.  Have you seen some of the outfits he's worn?  That said, WINNAR.  I've found my Thomas.  Not as pretty-boy as Bomer, but I don't think Thomas should be.  This is "predator angel" and "god of Bowflex".  This is what Thomas should look like.  Get 'im some contacts and we're good to go.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 17, 2010, 05:01:15 PM
@j3nnee

Your inbox is full.

Anyhow. I don't know if you noticed, but I had a seperate thread about casting but I had added a poll to mine. So yesterday I requested to have them merge it with your thread and they did, but you now control it.

I figure first actor to get 25 votes should win. Then when the winner of that poll is decided. Then you could delete that poll and start one for Thomas, Murphy, or Michael. Those seem to be the next 3 most discussed characters. Followed by Molly, Marcone, and Nicodemus.

@everyone reading this thread

Sound about right to you all?

Uhm shouldn't be my thread and how is my box full. Hmmm... don't remember being that popular. LOL
I think they just restart threads when they get full with whomever is the last poster on the old thread.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Coalprin on June 17, 2010, 05:28:04 PM
Okay, so I was kind of surprised when I did a celebrity recognition run on Matt Bomer (who I still demand for Thomas. John Morrison is my second choice by way of The God of Bowflex body.).

Bomer could totally pull off Thomas. Good one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 17, 2010, 08:32:52 PM
Matt Bomer seems to be the popular choice for Thomas. I wish I knew who he is. I mean of course I checked out his IMDB profile, but I have never seen any of his work, so I couldn't vouch if he has the right attitude and talent to play Thomas. He does have some....piercing eyes. I guess piercing is the right word.

I think "Prince of Persia" Jake Gyllenhaal could pull it off. But I thought of him when I originally thought Clive Owen should be Harry Dresden, and I thought the two actors could pass for brothers.
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/09/prince01.jpg)

I also think Chris Pine has a good look for it too.
(http://www.vanityfair.com/images/culture/2009/05/chris-pine-0905-ps04.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 17, 2010, 08:35:34 PM
He's a pro wrestler.  Have you seen some of the outfits he's worn?  That said, WINNAR.  I've found my Thomas.  Not as pretty-boy as Bomer, but I don't think Thomas should be.  This is "predator angel" and "god of Bowflex".  This is what Thomas should look like.  Get 'im some contacts and we're good to go.

Hee! Yay! Kali picked one of my choices :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 17, 2010, 08:58:44 PM
Really? A wrestler?

The only wrestler turned actor that I actually like is Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, but that's because I think he actually does comedy well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 17, 2010, 10:34:11 PM
Sorry, best pictures I can find of Lee Mead in a Loincloth

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad248/Scop_1/Tommy/CEDlarge-1.jpg)

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad248/Scop_1/Tommy/Princy3.jpg)

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad248/Scop_1/Tommy/leeloin3.jpg)


(if you missed eariler postings, he does Musical Theatre in the West End, London
These pictures are from Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat
My Geekdom knows no bounds!!!  Got to love that British Leg hair  8))
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 18, 2010, 02:07:41 AM
Can't figure out if I'd like Peter Wingfield (Methos from Highlander, Police captain in Caprica) for Michael or Nicodemus.

http://www.peterwingfield.com/gallery.shtml (http://www.peterwingfield.com/gallery.shtml)

In a couple of pictures on that site, he could even pull off Papa Raith
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 18, 2010, 02:14:23 AM
Why not James Marster as Harry? I just picked up some of the audiobooks and his voice is set in my head for Harry then Sarah Michelle Gellar can be Murph (making the size about right for both).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on June 18, 2010, 03:37:55 AM
Wow!  Peter Wingfield as Nicodemus, definitely!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 18, 2010, 04:08:56 AM
Nicodemus it is!

Like the James and Sarah picks, too!


MMmm what about Molly Cyrus for Molly?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 18, 2010, 04:13:39 AM
Really? A wrestler?

What do you think they do on television exactly? There's physical activity involved, but everything else, the plot lines, the feuds, etc.... it's all acting. Sure, most of them suck at it, but they're usually pulled in because they look the part anyway. John Morrison might be able to act, he might not, I don't know, but as far as perfect visual casting goes -- he looks the part of Thomas that I've always had in my head. Long, curling dark hair, massively hunky abs... Harry's already referred to Thomas in the books as the God of Bowflex and I swear to God, one of Morrison's nicknames on the WWE is "The Shaman of Sexy." I'm sorry, but in my mind, that immediately translates to Thomas :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 18, 2010, 04:25:01 AM
Why not James Marster as Harry? I just picked up some of the audiobooks and his voice is set in my head for Harry then Sarah Michelle Gellar can be Murph (making the size about right for both).

James as Harry was an original concept for the TV show... he just turned it down because he wasn't willing to leave his kids and move in order to film it. (Altogether now: awwwwwww!) I'd love for James to play Harry, but there are several issues that I regretfully have to acknowledge about that, and the first and most prominent is his height. Harry's nearly 7' tall, and James is somewhere around 5'9" to 5'11". And if you were to cast James with Sarah (which would make millions of Spuffy fans hearts gleefully burst in happiness, lemme tell you), the lack of excessive height difference would be very noticeable. Murph's a munchkin compared to Harry.

The books say that Karrin is 5' even -- Sarah is 5'3" which works fine as far as height goes. She's athletic, and she actually has been studying martial arts for years just like Murphy (though her prowess is in Tae Kwon Do, not Aikido), and bonus -- she's done the kick-ass heroine before. The books also say that Murphy's got cheerleader good looks, and hey, what was Sarah for nearly a decade if not a butt-kicking tiny blonde cheerleader?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 18, 2010, 01:12:13 PM
What do you think they do on television exactly? There's physical activity involved, but everything else, the plot lines, the feuds, etc.... it's all acting. Sure, most of them suck at it, but they're usually pulled in because they look the part anyway.

Well I know that they act, it's basically a Soap Opera for men.

I think Dwayne Johnson actually made the transition well, his mistake was getting into the kids movies, which have been like his past 4 or 5 movies like the Toothfairy. Same thing that Hulk Hogan did back in the day with Mr. Nanny.

But I looked at some other pics of your wrestler and I saw some that I could see as Thomas.

Then in others I thought he kind of looks like a young Val Kilmer.
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu290/anusia50/JohnMorrisond.png)(http://lifeissweet16.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/madmartigan.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 18, 2010, 01:29:25 PM
Madmartigan! Willow was awesome! Too bad George Lucas movies suck now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 18, 2010, 01:33:13 PM
Can't figure out if I'd like Peter Wingfield (Methos from Highlander, Police captain in Caprica) for Michael or Nicodemus.

http://www.peterwingfield.com/gallery.shtml (http://www.peterwingfield.com/gallery.shtml)

In a couple of pictures on that site, he could even pull off Papa Raith

I think Papa Raith, and I could also see him as Nicodemus, not for Michael though.

I use to love Highlander. Makes me feel old since that show started almost 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cass on June 18, 2010, 01:53:52 PM
Ah! He was in the latest attempted adaption of Riverworld.
He makes a really, really good villain; not sure how well he matches the book description of Nicodemus, but he could pull it off, I bet.
I also kinda like him for Morgan-- I think he'd do well (in the early books) as a fanatic/burnt out cop.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 18, 2010, 03:48:22 PM
Ah! He was in the latest attempted adaption of Riverworld.
He makes a really, really good villain; not sure how well he matches the book description of Nicodemus, but he could pull it off, I bet.
I also kinda like him for Morgan-- I think he'd do well (in the early books) as a fanatic/burnt out cop.

He could definitely pull off the Morgan attitude, but I picture Morgan as not as....sharp featured, more like some mean looking Stephen Lang type, or maybe even Jason Statham.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 18, 2010, 05:06:13 PM
Speaking only for myself, I would have no interest -- absolutely none -- in a Dresden Files universe in which there was a Spuffy redux. I say this as a fan of Buffy, and of Joss Whedon in general, but I don't need to see James Marsters and Sarah Michelle Gellar reprise their roles to even the smallest extent.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 18, 2010, 06:35:24 PM
Off topic a bit but what did you all think of James Marsters as Lord Piccolo?
(http://www.pep.ph/images/guide/644fb5ab6.jpg)
I am Dragonball fan, but I thought this movie was awful. I think everyone pretty much disliked it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 18, 2010, 08:41:59 PM
only 37 votes? is that all the Dresden Files fans.  :-[
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Coalprin on June 18, 2010, 08:44:28 PM
All the ones that care about this topic, at least.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on June 18, 2010, 10:33:42 PM
If we could break the Laws of Magic and travel through time to get the ideal star at the ideal age to play a role, I'd nominate James Cromwell. First of all, he's 6'7", which is, depending on which interview you catch Jim in, either Harry's height or only 2 inches less. Second of all, he's got the general facial structure that my mind's eye has put on Harry (not to mention similar to that of Alexis Denisof, the person Jim himself said would be perfect for the role). Third, he's got the surliness and wiseassery that are SO essential to Harry down pat.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 18, 2010, 11:26:46 PM
Off topic a bit but what did you all think of James Marsters as Lord Piccolo?
(http://www.pep.ph/images/guide/644fb5ab6.jpg)
I am Dragonball fan, but I thought this movie was awful. I think everyone pretty much disliked it.

Dude, I never saw it and I disliked it, lol. I'm mostly just impressed that Marsters freaking SAT THERE and told the make-up person to make him look uglier.

Yah-huh. It's like when Charlize Theron put on all that weight to play the lesbian serial killer years back. Again, I say, I am impressed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 18, 2010, 11:28:52 PM
If we could break the Laws of Magic and travel through time to get the ideal star at the ideal age to play a role, I'd nominate James Cromwell. First of all, he's 6'7", which is, depending on which interview you catch Jim in, either Harry's height or only 2 inches less. Second of all, he's got the general facial structure that my mind's eye has put on Harry (not to mention similar to that of Alexis Denisof, the person Jim himself said would be perfect for the role). Third, he's got the surliness and wiseassery that are SO essential to Harry down pat.

*gasp* I am ashamed of myself. I never considered that at all. And I feel even more ashamed for not thinking of Alexis Denisof. He's full-blooded American, and I keep imagining him with that damn British accent from Angel and Buffy. Arghity. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways, Shecky :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 19, 2010, 05:53:55 AM
Wow!  Peter Wingfield as Nicodemus, definitely!

The funny thing is when I think of Nicodemus... I think of James Mason. I don't know why.
I also think (old actor pool) Ed Ames would have made an awesome (draws a ________) ... the native american Wizard. *hits head trying to recall*
or maybe the guy who was in Dances with Wolves... the one who didn't like Kevin Costner's character but at the end is screaming "My name is so and so and I am your friend!" (see my  memory is slipping and I'm not even 40 yet) :P

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 19, 2010, 05:56:06 AM
Off topic a bit but what did you all think of James Marsters as Lord Piccolo?
(http://www.pep.ph/images/guide/644fb5ab6.jpg)
I am Dragonball fan, but I thought this movie was awful. I think everyone pretty much disliked it.

I didn't like it and I didn't see it and I'm not a DBZ fan LOL (back to topic)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 19, 2010, 09:47:01 PM
I didn't like it and I didn't see it and I'm not a DBZ fan LOL (back to topic)

I didn't see this movie, but I did enjoy the Indian version :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 20, 2010, 12:36:27 AM
Hmmm...

Not seeing too many people casting Charity... and maybe I'm just bored being stuck working on a Saturday but I was thinking of this actress for her:

Marcia Gay Harden

http://www.more.com/images/photo/image/78/91/photo/7891/original/MarciaGayHarden.UseThis.jpg

I don't know... how old is Michael and Charity supposed to be?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 20, 2010, 01:15:18 AM
Hmmm...

Not seeing too many people casting Charity... and maybe I'm just bored being stuck working on a Saturday but I was thinking of this actress for her:

Marcia Gay Harden

http://www.more.com/images/photo/image/78/91/photo/7891/original/MarciaGayHarden.UseThis.jpg

I don't know... how old is Michael and Charity supposed to be?
interesting. I kinda like her.

but can she pull off a storming-the-arctis-tor type of action?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 20, 2010, 02:33:38 AM
Hmmm...

Not seeing too many people casting Charity... and maybe I'm just bored being stuck working on a Saturday but I was thinking of this actress for her:

Marcia Gay Harden

http://www.more.com/images/photo/image/78/91/photo/7891/original/MarciaGayHarden.UseThis.jpg

I don't know... how old is Michael and Charity supposed to be?

Well... Michael rescued Charity when she was about 18, didn't he? And Michael is around 20 years older than Harry at the start of Grave Peril (and since GP took place about two years after Storm Front, that puts Harry at about 27, which puts Michael somewhere around 45 to 47). If Michael's around 47, there's any where from a 10 to 16 (using a VERY broad spectrum) year age difference between him and Charity, though I would put Charity somewhere in her early to mid thirties in GP. Molly is 14 at the time of DM, and 17 at the time of Proven Guilty, which would lend a sort of credence to that...

In PG, Charity says that after Michael saved her, she quit her powers, and married him not long after. If she was 18 or 19 at the time she gave birth to Molly, that would put her around 35 to 36 years old. Then again, Molly's age is all screwy in the books, since she seems to have had two birthdays between Proven Guilty and White Night.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 21, 2010, 07:02:04 AM
Ok... lots of people saying "who the heck is Matt Bomer..." or "Why should he play Thomas?"

I think his role as Bryce Larkin was rather Thomas-like in many ways. He was kind of interesting in the role:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fgmcqvwLH4

Brief but weird scene from Chuck (spoilers if you didn't see the end of Season 2 of the show yet but it's funny.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 01:15:46 PM
Hmmm...

Not seeing too many people casting Charity... and maybe I'm just bored being stuck working on a Saturday but I was thinking of this actress for her:

Marcia Gay Harden

http://www.more.com/images/photo/image/78/91/photo/7891/original/MarciaGayHarden.UseThis.jpg

I don't know... how old is Michael and Charity supposed to be?

All I can think of when I see her is that crazy role that she played in "The Mist". I hated that character, granted that was the point, you weren't suppose to like her, but I guess it ruined that actress for me, I only see her as a villain now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 01:25:02 PM
For Charity I picture more Diane Lane type, but I think Lane would be too old, even though she is 45 now.
(http://www.dianelane.org/images/Diane-Lane-Picture.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 21, 2010, 02:57:32 PM
For Charity I picture more Diane Lane type, but I think Lane would be too old, even though she is 45 now.
(http://www.dianelane.org/images/Diane-Lane-Picture.jpg)



Diana Lane has alwasy beeb the Leanansidhe to me.  She is the perfect age for it and still beautiful, timeless, and you could see her on the White Court.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 04:58:21 PM
Diana Lane has alwasy beeb the Leanansidhe to me.  She is the perfect age for it and still beautiful, timeless, and you could see her on the White Court.

I think you mean Winter Court. Yeah I could see her as Lea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 05:29:49 PM
So who would you rather see as Mab.

Angelina Jolie or Monica Bellucci?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 21, 2010, 05:47:55 PM
So who would you rather see as Mab.

Angelina Jolie or Monica Bellucci?

mab = jolie

bellucci = lash :D

just my two cents.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 21, 2010, 05:52:12 PM
Mab is a difficult one to cast, to me: Someone who could combine the strange, otherworldly qualities of Tilda Swinton with the ethereal beauty of someone like Diane Krueger would be perfect.

La Bellucci isn't chilly enough for Mab. I could see her as Aurora, maybe.

Lash doesn't need to be mercilessly beautiful. I see her as being a little more approachable. Somewhat like Emily Lloyd, or the way Emily Lloyd used to look, at any rate.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 06:16:15 PM
@Jaeh

Ha! that was exactly the opposite of what I had originally. But I guess they are pretty interchangeable.

@Atanvarno
I think Lash is suppose to look breathtaking, at least when she wants to, afterall she can pretty much make herself appear as whatever and she is "The Temptress".

So I picture someone very sensual, but also mature, and smokin' hot, for both characters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 06:17:46 PM
and Tilda Swinton as Winter Queen.........*sigh* someone has been watching too much Chronicles of Narnia.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 06:24:44 PM
I guess Bellucci is going to be a little tainted for the Dresden Cast anyways since she is doing The Sorcerer's Apprentice, on the other hand it may give her even more clout to be in the Dresden Cast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 21, 2010, 06:27:48 PM
So who would you rather see as Mab.

Angelina Jolie or Monica Bellucci?

Monica Bellucci hands down.  Angelina is too young (34).  Monica is 45 (5'8), yet looks ageless.  (I can only wish that I will that lovely when I am 45  ;))
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/8600000/Monica-Bellucci-as-the-Mirror-Queen-monica-bellucci-8689670-1000-1489.jpg)(http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/monica-bellucci/monica-bellucci-20050601-43942.jpg)

I have two for Lash...

Anna Torv (32 - 5'8) - I have always though she was so striking that she could be one of the fallen.
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3600000/anna-anna-torv-3684188-480-640.jpg)

Melanie Laurent - although she is a little young (27) and petite (5'2).  But I think fallen angels could be any age.
(http://celebrity-pictures.ca/Celebrities/Melanie-Laurent/Melanie-Laurent-1164888.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 21, 2010, 06:43:02 PM
MMmm what about Molly Cyrus for Molly?


All I can think of to say is "No."  Then I stop and think again.  Maybe, all I've seen her as is Hannah "OhmygawdImgonnahurlgetmeoutofhere" Montana.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 21, 2010, 06:53:40 PM
and Tilda Swinton as Winter Queen.........*sigh* someone has been watching too much Chronicles of Narnia.
Ha! I've never seen it, believe it or not. I realized as soon as I posted that was the first thing that anyone else would think.

I keep trying to think of the description of Lash from White Night. Something about how she's described there - simple dress, light brown hair - strikes me as being far less overtly glamorous than Lara or the Queens or Ladies of the Sidhe.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 08:55:18 PM
Lash should look more girl next door pretty than supermodel pretty? Okay, I buy it.

However I don't know about the two suggestions. I am not familiar with Anna Torv. And I only know Melanie Laurent from Inglorious Bastards, and she didn't really give me the fallen angel/temptress vibe, though she did vengful well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 21, 2010, 09:56:26 PM
Lash should look more girl next door pretty than supermodel pretty? Okay, I buy it.

However I don't know about the two suggestions. I am not familiar with Anna Torv. And I only know Melanie Laurent from Inglorious Bastards, and she didn't really give me the fallen angel/temptress vibe, though she did vengful well.

Anna Torv.  Agent Olivia Dunham from Fringe.  Australian actress.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on June 21, 2010, 10:34:46 PM
Anna Torv.  Agent Olivia Dunham from Fringe.  Australian actress.

Or, as I like to call her, Cate Blanchett's kid sister only without the acting chops or personal magnetism.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 21, 2010, 11:16:39 PM
All I can think of to say is "No."  Then I stop and think again.  Maybe, all I've seen her as is Hannah "OhmygawdImgonnahurlgetmeoutofhere" Montana.

I dunno. I mean, from Hannah Montana, kid can't act. but.. then again, it might just be because it's a disney thing...

Lash should look more girl next door pretty than supermodel pretty? Okay, I buy it.

Lash? : (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/11043/320x480YvonneStrahovski003.jpg)
Yvonne strahovski from chuck. *shrug* she's blond, though. but i think she can do brown hair easy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 22, 2010, 02:04:26 AM
Yvonne strahovski from chuck.
She'd be a good Murphy (not sure of the height but she's cute enough).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on June 22, 2010, 02:15:20 AM
Yvonne strahovski from chuck.
She'd be a good Murphy (not sure of the height but she's cute enough).


IMDB has Yvonne @ 5' 9¼"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 22, 2010, 02:17:24 AM
Newman!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 01:33:00 PM
IMDB has Yvonne @ 5' 9¼"

Too tall for Murphy.

I think she has the right subtle beauty that everyone was looking for in Lash. I don't watch Chuck though so I don't know if she has the attitude for Lash. I am not saying she couldn't do it.

I can think of a few that could play Lash, but I don't really have a solid picture of her formed in my mind already.

Kristen Bell
Jessica Biel
Famke Janssen
Cate Blanchett
Kate Mara
Kirsten Dunst
Milla Jovavich
Naomi Watts
Kate Beckinsale

*this is really just a list of actresses that I like  :P
**I think you can tell I like movies more than TV shows
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 22, 2010, 01:44:39 PM
I could buy Kate Mara as Lash. Even better, Naomi Watts as Lash, and Kate Mara (with brown hair) as Shiela.

Famke might make a good Gard, if she went blond.

Milla Jovovich cannot act. At all.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 22, 2010, 01:45:24 PM
Too tall for Murphy.

I think she has the right subtle beauty that everyone was looking for in Lash. I don't watch Chuck though so I don't know if she has the attitude for Lash. I am not saying she couldn't do it.

I can think of a few that could play Lash, but I don't really have a solid picture of her formed in my mind already.

Kristen Bell
Jessica Biel
Famke Janssen
Cate Blanchett
Kate Mara
Kirsten Dunst
Milla Jovavich
Naomi Watts
Kate Beckinsale

*this is really just a list of actresses that I like  :P
**I think you can tell I like movies more than TV shows

don't really like Kirsten Dunst and Milla Jovovich.

Yvonne ftw. xD

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 01:55:12 PM
No one seems to like Milla Jovavich. I guess she isn't the greatest actress, but Fifth Element is probably my favorite movie ever, and it was the first time I saw her, so kind of left an impression. However when I think of the Resident Evil movies....yeah, she really can't act that well.

Kirsten Dunst, same here, I first saw her in Interview with the Vampire, left an impression. However in the Spider-Man movies she really falls short when it comes to acting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 01:58:05 PM
I could buy Kate Mara as Lash. Even better, Naomi Watts as Lash, and Kate Mara (with brown hair) as Shiela.

Famke might make a good Gard, if she went blond.

I kind of had Kate Mara pegged as Justine.

Shiela? Lash when she is working in the book store?

I thought Cate Blanchett would make a good Gard, but Famke would work too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 22, 2010, 03:00:08 PM

Famke Janssen to me will always be Lara Raith. 
"Lara does more for me sitting in a chair..." ~ Harry Dredsen to Madeline Raith at Zero.
(http://i32.tinypic.com/nlv3th.jpg)(http://lh5.ggpht.com/morischanturidze/RkJ860HXl6I/AAAAAAAADhA/iebEOSvhylk/famke_janssen_026.jpg)

As for Gard, it would be really nice if they actually got a Scandinavian actress to play her.  

Sofia Ledarp could always dye her hair. (She is in the movie "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo")
(http://www.artistgruppen.se/clients/sofialedarp/mainimage.jpg)

Malin Åkerman (31, 5'8) (She was in "The Watchman")
(http://recent-movies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/malin-akerman.jpg)


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 22, 2010, 03:25:21 PM
@Sihnon

Famke Janssen as Lara, and Malin Åkerman as Gard FTW. Love it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 03:59:23 PM
Famke as Lara, I don't know why I didn't put this together myself, it's brilliant!

Sofia Ledarp, I like her, but can she speak english? I saw Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, good movie, all subbed though, don't know if this actress even speaks english.

Malin Åkerman did well in Watchmen, but I have also seen some of the Romantic Comedies (Heartbreak Kid, Couples Retreat) she has been in so I don't know if I could take her serious as Gard.

A lot of people mentioned Tilda Swinton earlier in this thread, I think she is sort of how I picture Gard.

However I agree it would be awesomer if they had an actual Scandinavian actress.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 22, 2010, 04:50:18 PM
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I kind of had Kate Mara pegged as Justine.
Oooh, yeah! Bingo.

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who is Shiela? Lash when she is working in the book store?
Yup. I wouldn't necessarily want them played by the same actress, is what I'm saying.

I somehow think Famke is probably a little too tall for Lara, but otherwise, she's a great suggestion. I have an idea in my head for Luccio (v. 2.0), but I can't put a name to the face.

Malin Åkerman is fine for Gard, being both Swedish-born and Canadian. Yes, we're just that awesome. Or, in some cases, åsome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 05:03:17 PM
While we are on the topic of Scandinavian actors, who should play Donar Vadderung?

Can't be Alexander Skarsgård, he is already Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 05:04:58 PM
I somehow Famke is probably a little too tall for Lara, but otherwise, she's a great suggestion.

Famke is 6' even according to IMDB, I think that would be ok for Lara.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 22, 2010, 05:06:10 PM
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I somehow think Famke is probably a little too tall for Lara, but otherwise, she's a great suggestion.
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Famke is 6' even according to IMDB, I think that would be ok for Lara.
It's not a big deal, but I think of Lara as being not very tall, but very curvy. Famke could certainly give her the requisite mesmerizing quality.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 05:10:50 PM
Luccio 2.0

hum? tough one

I picture a petite attractive brunette that can be wicked as Corpsetaker, and then also play Luccio who is the captain of the wardens, and also sometimes her italian accent comes out even as Luccio 2.0
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on June 22, 2010, 06:02:56 PM
Taking this back a few posts, it's worth noting that Strahovski is naturally a brunette. She's a bottle blonde.  So are 9/10ths of the blondes you see wandering around.  Blonde hair is a recessive trait. ;)  Sarah Michelle Gellar?  Brunette.  So's Kirsten Dunst, Reese Witherspoon, Cameron Diaz, etc., etc., etc.  The only point to this is that you shouldn't let hair color determine whether or not someone could play a role to perfection.  Anyone can have ANY color hair you want.  Dye jobs are wonderful things.

By the way, IMO most blondes would look far sexier as brunettes.  Tea Leoni should be forcibly restrained until her hair goes back to the shade it was in Bad Boys.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 22, 2010, 06:25:16 PM
We need Paul Newman in here somew...

Damn, that's right.  Never mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 22, 2010, 06:30:57 PM
Man, how much would Paul Newman have rocked as Gentleman Johnny? Yes, his eyes were famously blue, rather than green, but then again, Mr. Newman did make a movie called The Color of Money. We could have worked something out, dang it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: HarryMcCoy on June 22, 2010, 07:13:39 PM
Does anybody watch the show Leverage on TNT? Paul Blackthorne guest starred in the Season 2 finale as a shady businessman, and he just screamed Marcone to me. Would be a nice kick back to the TV series.

And she's a little too old for the role, but Kirsten Nelson who plays Chief Vick on Psych has always screamed Murphy to me. Authoritative, blond hair, short. It could definitely work.

Orlando Bloom for Thomas. Makes sense. Has that appeal to women, has the curly black hair thing. Tall but not abnormally so.

Cilian Murphy for Madrigal Raith. Has that other-worldly, somewhat sinister look. Can definitely see him as a little weasel in White Night.

Ebenezer McCoy- Wilford Brimley. Enough said.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 22, 2010, 07:14:25 PM
Geoffry Rush for Morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 22, 2010, 07:34:00 PM
Re-reading the thread, I'm now convinced that Kali's earlier choice for Mab, Olivia Williams, would make an excellent Lash. Poised, beautiful, intelligent - just think of what Ms. Williams could do with Lash's breakdown at the end of White Night. Yow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on June 22, 2010, 07:43:08 PM
Orlando Bloom for Thomas. Makes sense. Has that appeal to women, has the curly black hair thing. Tall but not abnormally so.
Please no, he's really not a very good actor. He's ruin Thomas, particulairly once we got to the point where he started speaking with a French accent and acting flamoyantly gay.
Geoffry Rush for Morgan.
Hmm, that could work... I sort of like him for McCoy too.

I'm pretty sure this has already been said this, but Morgan Freeman as Uriel, but only when he appears as Jake. Even if I hadn't seen he play God, the man can do pretty much any role. When Uriel appeared in Changes, he had a different appearance, so for that, someone much younger, not sure who...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on June 22, 2010, 07:44:06 PM
Lee-Ann Liebenberg as Lash. She's the tattoo faced woman in Doomsday, and she exuded danger and loving it.
(http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2008_Doomsday/008DMD_Lee_Anne_Liebenberg_003.jpg)
(http://photos.friendster.com/photos/40/17/92097104/1_851274478m.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 22, 2010, 07:50:02 PM

Orlando Bloom for Thomas. Makes sense. Has that appeal to women, has the curly black hair thing. Tall but not abnormally so.

Cilian Murphy for Madrigal Raith. Has that other-worldly, somewhat sinister look. Can definitely see him as a little weasel in White Night.


Cilian is good choice for Madrigal.  
(http://images.askmen.com/galleries/men/cillian-murphy/pictures/cillian-murphy-picture-3.jpg)

But Orlando for Thomas ...sorry, but he is way too short (it says 5'10 on IMBD, ahhh, not a chance maybe 5'8, I've met him in person.)  Also he's only 33.  I think this artist really has a good rendintion of Thomas, next to the actor from "White Collar," Matthew Boomer.  Who is also 33, but looks alot older and his comedic timing is well crafted.  I know he's been mentioned several times before, but after re-reading 'Changes', I can totally see it.
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2009/240/3/3/Thomas__Dresden_Files_by_dauntingfire.jpg)(http://97.74.93.55/images/stories/tvshows/WhiteCollar/White-Collar-Matthew-Bomer-1.JPG)

With Johnny Marcone, we know he is in his forties.... good looking, but tough, average height (5'10-6')
(http://pics.livejournal.com/bookshop/pic/0042eaa7)  (http://static.open.salon.com/files/bio-chris-noth1245090955.jpg)
Now, I would say George Clooney, but he is also too short.  And like Chris Noth, both may be too old for the role.  Although, Chris Noth is usually who I think of when I think of Johnny Marcone.  

However, I found this by an artist that I think works
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs47/f/2009/254/f/a/Dresden_Files__Johnny_Marcone_by_dauntingfire.jpg)

**EDITED for spelling and to post photos**
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 22, 2010, 08:31:24 PM
Please no, he's really not a very good actor. He's ruin Thomas, particulairly once we got to the point where he started speaking with a French accent and acting flamoyantly gay.

Thank god someone else agrees with me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 22, 2010, 08:38:47 PM
Thank god someone else agrees with me.

I agree too!  I think Orlando always plays another version of 'Legolas' in every film he does. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Magnus on June 22, 2010, 08:43:55 PM
But now to the important question who should play Toot-Toot?

(Just want to see your thoughts on the minor characters as well, like Toot-Toot, Tera West, Listens To The Wind, Mortimer, Larry Fowler and so on)

Larry should be played by Jerry Springer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 22, 2010, 08:54:32 PM
(http://pics.livejournal.com/bookshop/pic/0042eaa7)

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs47/f/2009/254/f/a/Dresden_Files__Johnny_Marcone_by_dauntingfire.jpg)


...

Holy CRAP!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 22, 2010, 09:35:07 PM
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I think Orlando always plays another version of 'Legolas' in every film he does.
Ehh. I didn't see Legolas in Troy, nor in Elizabethtown. It's not Bloom's fault that (a) Troy was kind of a mess; and (b) he was playing a twerp. Paris is one of the great nincompoops of literature. Whatever limits there may be on his range, he's not right for Thomas.

I was thinking that Edward Kerr is a close match for the physical description of Marcone.

I can't help thinking of Gina Torres when I think of Tera.

I could see Liebenberg as one of Lara's sisters, but she doesn't make me think of Lasciel.  

Gordon Tootoosis would make a great Listens-To-Wind. I definitely heard his voice in my head when I read Turn Coat.

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When Uriel appeared in Changes, he had a different appearance, so for that, someone much younger, not sure who...
... Denzel?  ;D He's already played one of the Fallen, arguably.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on June 22, 2010, 09:51:01 PM
I agree too!  I think Orlando always plays another version of 'Legolas' in every film he does. 
I wish. In my opinion, that was pretty much his only good role and I'm pretty sure that part of that is because more of Legolas's best parts were done by a stunt double.

With Johnny Marcone, we know he is in his forties.... good looking, but tough, average height (5'10-6')
(http://pics.livejournal.com/bookshop/pic/0042eaa7)  (http://static.open.salon.com/files/bio-chris-noth1245090955.jpg)
Now, I would say George Clooney, but he is also too short.  And like Chris Noth, both may be too old for the role.  Although, Chris Noth is usually who I think of when I think of Johnny Marcone. 

Now that I look at that picture of George Clooney, I can definitely see Marone. However, while Clooney may be able to pull off the look, I'm not sure about the personality. I think of other roles I've seen him in and I think Marcone is a bit too serious a character for him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 22, 2010, 10:33:15 PM
I agree too!  I think Orlando always plays another version of 'Legolas' in every film he does. 

I always want to strangle him every time I rewatch Pirates of the Caribbean... though it may just be because Will Turner annoys me to death.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 22, 2010, 10:39:55 PM
Cilian is good choice for Madrigal.  
(http://images.askmen.com/galleries/men/cillian-murphy/pictures/cillian-murphy-picture-3.jpg)

Plus he has that eerie little 'I'm a Masochistic Murderous Little Freak that's Jealous of My Much More Awesome Cousin' look to him.

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But Orlando for Thomas ...sorry, but he is way too short (it says 5'10 on IMBD, ahhh, not a chance maybe 5'8, I've met him in person.)  Also he's only 33.  I think this artist really has a good rendintion of Thomas, next to the actor from "White Collar," Matthew Boomer.  Who is also 33, but looks alot older and his comedic timing is well crafted.  I know he's been mentioned several times before, but after re-reading 'Changes', I can totally see it.
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2009/240/3/3/Thomas__Dresden_Files_by_dauntingfire.jpg)(http://97.74.93.55/images/stories/tvshows/WhiteCollar/White-Collar-Matthew-Bomer-1.JPG)

MWAHAHAHA another has been swayed to the Bomer for Thomas camp! *high five*

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(http://pics.livejournal.com/bookshop/pic/0042eaa7)

However, I found this by an artist that I think works
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs47/f/2009/254/f/a/Dresden_Files__Johnny_Marcone_by_dauntingfire.jpg)

O.O

That is inexplicably eerie. Now to find who has the most chemistry with Clooney and fits the role completely to play Beckett. Who looks like they have dead eyes in Hollywood?
**EDITED for spelling and to post photos**
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on June 22, 2010, 10:43:58 PM
I always want to strangle him every time I rewatch Pirates of the Caribbean... though it may just be because Will Turner annoys me to death.

Which may well be because he's played by Orlando Bloom. Were Will played by someone else, I'd probably like him more, and you likely would too.
So once again Orlando Bloom as Thomas? For the love of God, NO!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 23, 2010, 12:11:37 AM
I was thinking that Edward Kerr is a close match for the physical description of Marcone.

You know, I can see that too.  Right age too!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 23, 2010, 01:55:32 AM
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That is inexplicably eerie. Now to find who has the most chemistry with Clooney and fits the role completely to play Beckett. Who looks like they have dead eyes in Hollywood?
::Partially crushes urge to chirp "Everyone?"::

Because I am a sap, I want to say Julianna Margulies here. Not that I think she has dead eyes; but she could. I could see her making Helen Beckitt weirdly compelling. Also, Julianna and George? They still have crazy-making chemistry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 23, 2010, 02:01:39 AM
::Partially crushes urge to chirp "Everyone?"::

Because I am a sap, I want to Julianna Margulies here. Not that I think she has dead eyes; but she could. I could see her making Helen Beckitt weirdly compelling. Also, Julianna and George? They still have crazy-making chemistry.

Oh she would be good.  You got me thinking of another option.  Julianna Moore for Helen.
(http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/03/01-07/julianne-moore-2.jpg)
She's 49 and could have a daughter around 20.  I know that Helen may not have red hair, but I can see it personally.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 23, 2010, 02:17:26 AM
My girl Julianne IS the Leanansidhe, as far as I'm concerned. I'm pretty sure Lea is described as having red hair, too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 23, 2010, 02:30:07 AM
I agree with that assessment
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 03:23:04 AM
::Partially crushes urge to chirp "Everyone?"::

I said 'dead' eyes not 'fake' :D

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Because I am a sap, I want to say Julianna Margulies here. Not that I think she has dead eyes; but she could. I could see her making Helen Beckitt weirdly compelling. Also, Julianna and George? They still have crazy-making chemistry.

BAHAHAHA ER. Funny funny funny. I think I actually stopped watching the show around the time they both finally took off, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 03:46:31 AM
Which may well be because he's played by Orlando Bloom. Were Will played by someone else, I'd probably like him more, and you likely would too.
So once again Orlando Bloom as Thomas? For the love of God, NO!

*affects Muttley-like laughter*

.... I may have just dated myself by using that line.

This is why I'm clinging to Matt Bomer (with John Morrisson's body) as Thomas for my life :)

Uh, for the younguns (that is everyone under 25 who has no idea what the hell I'm talking about) Muttley is the villain dog of Dick Dastardly from the old Hanna-Barbera cartoons. Look up the laugh on Google, seriously. It gives me the giggles everytime.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 23, 2010, 08:21:34 AM
*affects Muttley-like laughter*]

LOL did you ever see the old (when Cartoon Network was still new) short "Wonder Woman's lasso of justice" skits?
They had one with Muttley laughing but he gets caught in the lasso and starts bawling. LOL

Sorry just made me think of it cause I don't see many references to Muttley. ;)

My fave though was when she catches Aquaman and he goes "when you see those bubbles, they aren't always... bubbles." LOL

I am so glad more people are for Bomer. I think he can pull off the darkness of Thomas and especially the whole suave confidence. He's perfect! <3
*swoons and gets the vapors*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 01:43:04 PM
@kali
Funny that you mention Tea Leoni, I kind of thought she would be a good Lea because she has that feline sort of beauty. Don't know if she could pull of the act though.



Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 01:43:50 PM
@HarryMcCoy
Orlando Bloom....NOOOOOO!!!!!! he is the worst ever. He didn't even act well as Legolas, really pay attention next time you watch LOTR and you will notice he doesn't even act well in that, it really is the action scenes and the fact that he is an elf that made him popular. One scene in particular, the scene where Aragorn explains for about 10 minutes that they need to distract the eye so that Frodo can sneak by or whatever, anyhow after all that Legolas has an epiphany and says "a diversion!", it's like duh, that's what we have been talking about for ten minutes stupid elf. Granted Bloom didn't write the dialogue but he sure delivered like an idiot.

Cilian Murphy...... I love this actor. 28 days later ruled! (28 weeks later sucked, lucky Danny Boyle is coming back for 28 months later) as Madrigal Raith FTW.

Wilford Brimley as Eb. Yeah he is kind of how I picture Eb, but I have said this before, Brimley is on his last leg, in reality if they made a film now, he couldn't do it, his health is too poor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 01:46:17 PM
@Warden Jon Marcone
Geoffry Rush for Morgan, have to vote no on this, there were at least five better choices for Morgan, however I could see Rush as someone like Nic or the Merlin, but he is too old to play Nic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 01:50:29 PM
@Thaumologist
Lee-Ann Liebenberg as Lash. I don't know if she can act, but she is smokin' hot, that's a win for me.  ;D
Seriously though, I don't think she should be Lash but definitely a Vampire, white or red court, maybe Bianca.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 01:52:01 PM
@Atanvarno
Olivia Williams as Lash, I could get behind that choice.

Gordon Tootoosis as LTW, good choice, but I think Wes Studi would also be a great LTW.

Julianne Moore for Lea... I dunno, she has the red hair and all. I say 75% fit cause I don't think she could completely pull off the attitude.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 01:58:53 PM
LOL did you ever see the old (when Cartoon Network was still new) short "Wonder Woman's lasso of justice" skits?
They had one with Muttley laughing but he gets caught in the lasso and starts bawling. LOL

Sorry just made me think of it cause I don't see many references to Muttley. ;)

\O/ w00t! Score one for me!! Hah :D

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I am so glad more people are for Bomer. I think he can pull off the darkness of Thomas and especially the whole suave confidence. He's perfect! <3
*swoons and gets the vapors*


I follow the Twitter feed started by Priscellie and the others (as the Dresden cast), and I had no idea who the man was that they used for the profile pic for Thomas. And then I saw him on TV, and a lightbulb clicked on. So really, I owe my devotion to Bomer and his future casting as Thomas to the mods and everyone on the Dresden Twitter feeds :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 02:03:02 PM
Other choices for Eb. Rip Torn and Tommy Lee Jones. Didn't like the idea of Jones at first but then I thought about it and it would work.
(http://doc-0o-as-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/iu46pndmql8brd6k7c2a7uj1vjo5nqf0/1277294400000/05835411182615825942/*/0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ1YWM2MmItMjFhMC00ZjY2LWFkNzAtMDU5MTkxMTJiMzg5)  (http://www.nikohk.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/tommy-lee-jones-cannes-2005-nicolas-guerin.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 02:16:07 PM
You all are starting to win me over with the Matt Bomer thing, but it's actually not that I like Bomer, but it's because all the other suggestions for Thomas are soo bad (Orlando Bloom *sheesh*) that Bomer is starting to look better and better as Thomas.

No one commented on my suggestion the other day of Chris Pine as Thomas.
(http://backseatcuddler.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/chris-pine-outtakes.jpg)(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/12/28/chris_pine_2.jpg)
I am not sure about this choice though, I think he is a pretty good actor judging by Star Trek, I don't know if he really fits the bill, but he seems to be more like the other choices up here.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Coalprin on June 23, 2010, 02:51:33 PM
Pine isn't bad... but Bomer is better, for the role of Thomas at least. He's been on a few of the TV shows that I watch and I'd say he definitely has the range/looks to pull off everybody's favorite incubus.

Chris Pine can act well enough, but he is kinda lacking that Raith look.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 03:04:39 PM
Pine isn't bad... but Bomer is better, for the role of Thomas at least. He's been on a few of the TV shows that I watch and I'd say he definitely has the range/looks to pull off everybody's favorite incubus.

Chris Pine can act well enough, but he is kinda lacking that Raith look.

I agree that Pine doesn't look Raithy enough.

Personally, when they first introduced Thomas I pictured something like this.
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/2561/ian3vz7.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 03:06:31 PM
and I stumbled on this too.
(http://nectarfizz.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/jackman-11.jpg)
Never thought of this, but Jackman could probably work as Thomas...

..on second thought he is too old, he is 42ish and this picture is old.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 23, 2010, 03:30:44 PM
Chris Pine may not be good for Raith, but can we cast him as Warden Chandler just so we can look at him?  *cough* Oh. Yeah.  I said that aloud. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 03:32:24 PM
How about Evans for Thomas. He is Bowflexy too.
(http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/chris-evans-tom-ford-suit-01.jpg) (http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2007/08/tom-ford-evans/chris-evans-tom-ford-suit-05.jpg)
Still not Raithy enough? I don't really get the Predatory Angel vibe from Evans.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 04:32:22 PM

I am not sure about this choice though, I think he is a pretty good actor judging by Star Trek, I don't know if he really fits the bill, but he seems to be more like the other choices up here.

Chris Pine is handsome enough to pull off the Thomas role, but he's just not it for me. His eyes don't have that same 'mysteriousness' to them that Bomer's do.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 04:37:35 PM
and I stumbled on this too.

Never thought of this, but Jackman could probably work as Thomas...

..on second thought he is too old, he is 42ish and this picture is old.


Don't knock on people being too old for certain roles. There's a reason that most casting these days has people that are actually ten years older playing roles that are ten years younger. Every once in a while, though, you have the cases like Supernatural, where the actors are the same age as their characters, lol.

Anyway, I've been reading this Supernatural/Dresden Files crossover fic that a friend turned me on to, and she's made an icon specifically for the fic (it's on LJ); The fic is called Lost Sons (http://phoenixknght86.livejournal.com/37537.html), and the actor she sees as Harry is actually Hugh Jackman. The picture that she specifically used fits really well, actually.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 04:46:13 PM
Chris Pine may not be good for Raith, but can we cast him as Warden Chandler just so we can look at him?  *cough* Oh. Yeah.  I said that aloud. :)

Yes you did, and yes we can. Besides, I know damn sure he can effect a British accent -- he had one when he played Nicholas in The Princess Diaries 2. (consequently, he sounds just as snooty as Chandler might in the clip that I saw of himself and Anne Hathaway taking a fall into the fountain behind them).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 23, 2010, 05:01:55 PM
Moore's a great actress, full stop. She could do whatever the part requires, I have no doubt.

I also agree that Matt Bomer could do Thomas justice - not only the confidence and charm, but Thomas's conflicted nature, his self-distrust, anger and shame, as well as love for Justine. (I don't think Chris Evans is as strong an actor as Bomer, really. Nothing against the guy, but he's limited to a certain type - at least in the roles I've seen.) If it were up to me (and clearly it's not) I'd just as soon stay away from any wrestlers or swimsuit models altogether.

Pine is okay, I guess; I'm sure there are actual Brits who could play "Steed" Chandler perfectly well.
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Every once in a while, though, you have the cases like Supernatural, where the actors are the same age as their characters, lol.
Except for Jeffrey Dean Morgan, who played a character exactly ten years older than his real age. (Yes, I watched the first few seasons of the show that carefully.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on June 23, 2010, 05:37:31 PM
How about Ian Somerhalder for Thomas?

(http://www.collectormania.com/imagegallery/C10images/IanSomerhalder2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 23, 2010, 05:48:46 PM
Pine is okay, I guess; I'm sure there are actual Brits who could play "Steed" Chandler perfectly well. )


Yeah, you are right... I have a not-so-secret crush on James McAvoy.  Can he play Warden Chandler?
(http://saraineilan.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/james_mcavoy_120307_01.jpg)(http://img.listal.com/image/717037/500full.jpg)

Okay, he's Scottish (31, 5'7).  Okay, maybe a little short, but he's a HUGE sci-fi/fantasy fan!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 23, 2010, 06:30:48 PM
Also, McAvoy can act like nobody's business! He's a Scot, but has played a few Englishmen (and a couple of Irishmen, too, I think.)

Somerhalder has some experience with playing a vampire; I see him more as Madrigal than Thomas, I guess.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 23, 2010, 06:54:32 PM
@Warden Jon Marcone
Geoffry Rush for Morgan, have to vote no on this, there were at least five better choices for Morgan,

laiek who out of curiosity?  And better how?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Coalprin on June 23, 2010, 06:55:55 PM
McAvoy as Steed? *thumbs up*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 10:34:42 PM
Yeah, you are right... I have a not-so-secret crush on James McAvoy.  Can he play Warden Chandler?
(http://saraineilan.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/james_mcavoy_120307_01.jpg)(http://img.listal.com/image/717037/500full.jpg)

Okay, he's Scottish (31, 5'7).  Okay, maybe a little short, but he's a HUGE sci-fi/fantasy fan!

That works! He's got a bit of a talent with accents, anyway. He had an American accent for his role in Wanted with Angelina Jolie. And do we know exactly how tall Steed is, anyway?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 10:36:33 PM
How about Ian Somerhalder for Thomas?

(http://www.collectormania.com/imagegallery/C10images/IanSomerhalder2.jpg)

He actually came up in a facial recognition with Matt Bomer that I did a few posts ago. The face recognition said he only resembled Bomer a LITTLE, but then again, it said that Josh Holloway resembled Bomer a LOT. Anyway, I pitched the idea of Somerhalder as Harry, but sadly, there was no response :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 10:42:33 PM

Except for Jeffrey Dean Morgan, who played a character exactly ten years older than his real age. (Yes, I watched the first few seasons of the show that carefully.)


Which I personally think is funny as hell. The fact that in real life JDM is only a handful of years older than the boys who play his sons? Hilarious. There were jokes from the set that had Jensen and Jared texting JDM just to tease him and call him 'Daddy,' even though he's only 44, and Jensen is only 32. Well. Now they are, I mean. Twelve years is NOT that big an age difference, lol.

And yes, I watch the show religiously, too. I'm not an addict. I'm not. I'm not I'm not I'm not.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 24, 2010, 01:51:10 AM
Well, of course you're not. :D

Now that I think about it, why isn't JDM on our list somewhere? I could see him as Kincaid, except I seem to remember a passing reference to Kincaid's having blond hair (don't I? And does it matter?)

For that matter, why didn't I think of Harry Dean Stanton for Morgan? Where is my head at?!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 01:27:20 PM
James McAvoy as Steed FTW!

I have been trying to think of where McAvoy would fit in, that's perfect!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 01:39:32 PM
@Warden Jon Marcone
Geoffry Rush for Morgan, have to vote no on this, there were at least five better choices for Morgan, however I could see Rush as someone like Nic or the Merlin, but he is too old to play Nic.
laiek who out of curiosity?  And better how?

I don't deny that Rush is an amazing actor and could pull of the attitude, I just don't think he is the best choice.

Better.... ok better was a poor choice of words. And five better choices may have been an exageration.

I think Stephen Lang would fit the bill a little better.
(http://www.silverfeast.com/wp-content/uploads/stephen_lang.jpg)

And Jason Statham.
(http://www.kingtartous.com/king2/images/jason_statham.jpg)

But I concede Rush would probably be my third choice for Morgan.
He was great as Captain Barbossa.
(http://www.wowowow.com/files/imagecache/300x/kristinfritz/2009_0520_wiki_geoffrey_rush.jpg)

Someone also suggested Alan Rickman, but I just don't think he is firey enough.
And ofcourse there were some other suggestions, but I can't recall who.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 24, 2010, 01:55:26 PM
I think Morgan is a tough one... I like everyone's picks too.  I thought Rade Serbedzija (63) would be a good choice.  (He was Boris the Blade in "Snatch".  He is also going to be Gregorovitch in the new Harry Potter movies.)
(http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/actores/rade_serbedzija/fotos/4505/rade_serbedzija.jpg)(http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13923/81576388.jpg)

Jason Statham (37)... purrr... I will watch anything he is in... I usually see him as Kincaid
(http://www.completemartialarts.com/whoswho/actionstars/images/jasonstatham.jpg)(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/galleries/chests/jason-statham.jpg)

Or Charlie Hunnam as Kincaid.  But he only 30. That I think is a little young.
(http://scifiwire.com/assets_c/2009/04/SonsofAnarchy_CharlieHunnam-thumb-550x373-16758.jpg)

Both are British actors.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 02:04:12 PM
Jason Statham (37)... purrr... I will watch anything he is in... I usually see him as Kincaid

Jason Statham was my original choice for Kincaid, but there was the whole blonde hair ponytail debaucle, so I went with Alexander Skarsgard as my Kincaid.

If I were to make the movie, I would probably keep Statham as Kincaid, and just take liberties with the whole ponytail thing, I don't think it's that important really.

But I would keep Skarsgard in there somewhere. Maybe Donnar Vaderung, even though ASkars looks a little young for it, they could age him up a little, and besides that Vaderung is a demi-god so he should look youngish anyhow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 24, 2010, 02:12:02 PM
Well, of course you're not. :D

I'm not, dammit! ;D

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Now that I think about it, why isn't JDM on our list somewhere? I could see him as Kincaid, except I seem to remember a passing reference to Kincaid's having blond hair (don't I? And does it matter?)

Kincaid does have 'golden blonde' hair that he tends to wear in a ponytail... Which is personally why I think that Josh Holloway would fit the bill for Kincaid's look at the very least... whether or not he can actually pull of Possibly-Homicidal-Yet-Very-Caring-Papa-Looney-Mercernary is another matter entirely. And JDM hasn't made the list yet because I can't quite figure out where I want him, lol. Maybe we can pull some strings and get him cast as the Erl King... of course, then James Marsters might be jealous, because it seems he likes to play freaky, creepy villain roles, lol.

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For that matter, why didn't I think of Harry Dean Stanton for Morgan? Where is my head at?!

Ehhhhh.... I don't really see Morgan as being that thin. His comic book image kinda set the bar for me for how I want Morgan to look. You know. This scary looking dude?

(http://jim-butcher.com/pics/dabelSF02005.jpg)

Honestly, the comic pretty much set the bar for how I want everyone to look. But I can kind of see Michael Bowen as the Morgan type:
(http://thefaust.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/michaelbowen.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 24, 2010, 02:15:47 PM
Jason Statham was my original choice for Kincaid, but there was the whole blonde hair ponytail debaucle, so I went with Alexander Skarsgard as my Kincaid.


Yeah, Alexander Skarsgard...I can get on board with that casting too... granted, I could watch him read the dictionary... I still like Statham for it.
(http://www.culch.ie/images/AlexanderSkarsgard001.jpg)(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9ClYtKAV7yA/SrnIB2R4sKI/AAAAAAAABvg/4IobaDJSUlo/s400/Alexander+Skarsgard+1.jpg)

(OFF TOPIC:  He's Swedish, why was he not considered for "Thor." I hate when Hollywood does that, don't get me started on the "Last Airbender.")
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 02:20:02 PM
I saw Michael Bowen suggested a long time ago as Morgan, but I can't get pass the fact that the first time I ever saw Bowen was in Kill Bill as Buck.

"My name is Buck, and I came here to...."

I don't think I can take Bowen seriously as Morgan because I have that image of him as a nurse in my head.
(http://www.xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/skina/killbill/buck.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 02:24:18 PM
Yeah, Alexander Skarsgard...I can get on board with that casting too... granted, I could watch him read the dictionary... I still like Statham for it.

(OFF TOPIC:  He's Swedish, why was he not considered for "Thor." I hate when Hollywood does that, don't get me started on the "Last Airbender.")

That's what I been screaming.... kind of, he actually was considered for Thor.

April 20, 2009 Last month, news broke that Thor director Kenneth Branagh was seen meeting with True Blood actor, Alexander Skarsgård. This sparked rumors that the 6’4” son of veteran actor Stellan Skarsgård was in the running to wield the Mighty hammer, Mjolnir.

Not sure why it didn't work out, it's possible he is too busy with True Blood or something, or maybe they just wanted a fresh face for Thor, or cheaper actor.

I can't believe they went with the guy who was in Star Trek for two minutes.

I think Branagh passed on ASkars. ASkars sounded like he would have done it.

What's more is ASkars dad Stellan is in the Thor movie.

edit: Marvel Studio's should have chosen ASkars and passed on Branagh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 24, 2010, 02:43:33 PM
That's what I been screaming.... kind of, he actually was considered for Thor.

April 20, 2009 Last month, news broke that Thor director Kenneth Branagh was seen meeting with True Blood actor, Alexander Skarsgård. This sparked rumors that the 6’4” son of veteran actor Stellan Skarsgård was in the running to wield the Mighty hammer, Mjolnir.

Not sure why it didn't work out, it's possible he is too busy with True Blood or something, or maybe they just wanted a fresh face for Thor, or cheaper actor.

I can't believe they went with the guy who was in Star Trek for two minutes.

I think Branagh passed on ASkars. ASkars sounded like he would have done it.

What's more is ASkars dad Stellan is in the Thor movie.

Well, I'm glad he was at least considered.  I think you are right about being busy or maybe he had a bad reading.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 02:45:28 PM
Anyways back to a regularly scheduled program.

Susan Rodriguez? I know she is suppose to be latin american, but I think Kate Beckinsale would be a good Susan. Mostly because I can picture her as the main love interest.

Sure there are a lot of latin american actresses but none I can picture as Harry Dresdens significant other.

e.g. Eva Longoria, Penelope Cruz, Salma Hayek, etc.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 24, 2010, 02:49:47 PM
Okay how about Stellan Skarsgard as Donnar Vaderung (Odin)?
(http://whatsthestureplan.blogg.se/images/stellan_1186155978.jpg)

Susan Rodriguez is Erica Cerra.  Jim Butcher says so, so I have to agree.
(http://scifiwire.com/assets_c/2009/09/EricaCerraEureka-thumb-550x351-23383.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 03:01:57 PM
Okay how about Stellan Skarsgard as Donnar Vaderung (Odin)?

FTW! I was thinking that too.

Do you know who is playing Odin in the Thor movie? (I digress again, sorry)

I won't say in case you all want to be suprised if or when you watch Thor, but if you want to know here it is (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800369/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 03:04:53 PM
Susan Rodriguez is Erica Cerra.  Jim Butcher says so, so I have to agree.

I liked her in Eureka. Though I don't know how she would do on the silver screen. TV is a little different and I haven't seen Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief because that movie looks stupid.

(http://i.newsarama.com/images/Erica-Cerra-1_02.jpg)
More Susan like image.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Efialtis on June 24, 2010, 04:09:50 PM
After watching some of the great special effects in the "up and coming" movie, Sorcerer's Apprentice, I couldn't help but think..."THEY NEED TO MAKE A DRESDEN FILES MOVIE"...
I know the TV Series didn't go over very well, mostly because, imnsho, it didn't follow the books very well...
But look at James Bond, those movies have gone on forever...and most are still pretty good...
So we could have a 1:1 ratio with movies to books...

Are there any rumors or feelers out there for doing this?

Another book series that could be fantastic as a movie (or series of movies) would be "Thieves World"...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 24, 2010, 04:17:01 PM
After watching some of the great special effects in the "up and coming" movie, Sorcerer's Apprentice, I couldn't help but think..."THEY NEED TO MAKE A DRESDEN FILES MOVIE"...
I know the TV Series didn't go over very well, mostly because, imnsho, it didn't follow the books very well...
But look at James Bond, those movies have gone on forever...and most are still pretty good...
So we could have a 1:1 ratio with movies to books...

Are there any rumors or feelers out there for doing this?

Another book series that could be fantastic as a movie (or series of movies) would be "Thieves World"...

Officially? Not til Jim gets back the licensing from Lions Gate :( Of course, Lions Gate could always choose to do a movie on it, but given that they've done nothing with it since April of '07, it's not looking likely.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
Officially? Not til Jim gets back the licensing from Lions Gate :( Of course, Lions Gate could always choose to do a movie on it, but given that they've done nothing with it since April of '07, it's not looking likely.

I never really paid much attention to Studios, usually I just look at the director, but even then some of my favorite directors disappoint me from time to time.

Anyhow I was looking at all the Lion's Gate movies and realize there are very very few I like. Even the good movies they are involved with a sort of shadowed by the bad ones. For example, this year they did Kick-Ass (awesome movie) but they also did Daybreakers, The Spy Next Door, From Paris with Love, Why Did I Get Married Too?, and Killers. Daybreakers I had hope for but turned out pretty lame.

So with that said what studio would you cast to make a Dresden Files movie?

Walt Disney Pictures, Paramount Pictures, Warner Bros., Sony Pictures, NBC/Universal Pictures, DreamWorks Pictures, New Line Cinema, MGM, Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, Columbia Pictures, TriStar Pictures, Focus Features, Miramax Films, Warner Independent Pictures, Paramount Classics, Paramount Vantage, Fine Line Features, United Artists, Picturehouse, Lakeshore Entertainment, Heyday Films, etc.

Think about it like this, Heyday makes Harry Potter, and Lakeshore made Underworld. Universal pioneered movie monsters and make-up, etc.

Then again some really great movies don't even really have a major studio behind them, like Desperado, it was distributed by Columbia Pictures (naturally) but not really a studio involved in the making of. Of course Robert Rodriguez has formed Troublemaker Studios since then.

Another example is The Fifth Element. No major studio behind this either.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on June 24, 2010, 06:15:50 PM
Anyhow I was looking at all the Lion's Gate movies and realize there are very very few I like. Even the good movies they are involved with a sort of shadowed by the bad ones. For example, this year they did Kick-Ass (awesome movie)
They did not even make Kick-Ass it was financed independently by the director.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 07:01:38 PM
They did not even make Kick-Ass it was financed independently by the director.

Your right, seems like the just distributed it, it came up on Lion's Gate list of movies.
So has Lions Gate anything noteable or significant? I guess not.
I can't wait til the movie rights go back to Jim so that a good studio or director could pick it up.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 07:13:18 PM
While we are on the subject of Kick-Ass, I think Chloe Moretz (Hit-Girl) should play Ivy.

Funny on IMDB her character is listed number 21 on the cast list. It should be listed at least 3rd, aren't they suppose to be listed by significance?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 24, 2010, 07:35:52 PM
I never really paid much attention to Studios, usually I just look at the director, but even then some of my favorite directors disappoint me from time to time.



My point being that Jim has no creativity rights to any movies that Lions Gate may produce, given that the movie license will not revert back to Jim for another... two years and two-hundred-and-ninety-three days.

Seriously. Go watch this vid taken during one of his Q&A/Signings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nxHxfB_ElU

(and yes, that is the exact math, lol. I really had nothing better to do.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 24, 2010, 07:42:09 PM
Okay how about Stellan Skarsgard as Donnar Vaderung (Odin)?
(http://whatsthestureplan.blogg.se/images/stellan_1186155978.jpg)


I can see that.  And I always saw Morgan as kind of like Barbossa in a suit as a good guy.  Maybe a little skinnier.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 24, 2010, 07:47:42 PM
I can see that.  And I always saw Morgan as kind of like Barbossa in a suit as a good guy.  Maybe a little skinnier.

Huh? Barbossa was played by Geoffrey Rush, and Skarsgard played the squidhead... uh, what'shisname, Davy Jones. Am I missing something?

Never mind, I had such a moment of stupid just then... *sigh*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 24, 2010, 07:53:52 PM
don't worry, it's just a blonde moment.  It will pass.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 24, 2010, 08:02:36 PM
Yeah, Chloe Moretz would rock!
(http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/lc/the_power_of_youth_2_090809/chloe_moretz_2534264.jpg)

I also like Morgan Lily for Ivy. (She was in 2012.)
(http://image.xyface.com/image/m/artist-morgan-lily/morgan-lily-34017.jpg)

For Carlos Ramirez, I was thinking Jay Hernandez. I remember him from "Crazy/Beautiful" and when I started reading the books his look popped in my head.  He is also Mexician-American and 5'8.  Although, he's 31 - so he may be already too old since he should be around 25.  Although, there are plenty of good looking Latin actors.
(http://img.atpictures.com/images2/jayhernandez/JayHernandez_Vespa_8195097.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 08:18:26 PM
So after thinking I have come up with the perfect cast.

Harry - Will Smith (http://authorjuliejames.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/will1.jpg)
Thomas - Tyrese Gibson (http://rmusicb.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/tyrese-gibson-11.jpg)
Morgan - Taye Diggs (http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l458/glvalentine/questionabletaste/equilibrium/EquilibriumStill0044-BrandtTayeDigg.jpg)
Kincaid - Wesley Snipes  (http://planb.episerverhotell.net/PageFiles/8399/wesley_snipes_08.jpg)
Michael - Forest Whitaker (http://static.ulike.net/img/01_Ghost_Dog:_The_Way_of_the_Samurai.jpg)
Marcone - Denzel Washington (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/denzel_washington1_300_400.jpg)
Ebenezar - Morgan Freeman (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/244freemanmorgan092806.jpg)
Nicodemus - Samuel L Jackson (http://nycsveryown.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/samuel_l_jackson.jpg)
Carlos - Don Cheadle (http://www.etoday.ru/uploads/2008/02/10/don_cheadle.jpg)
The Merlin - Danny Glover (http://www.salsamania.it/news/farandula%20mia/dic07/danny%20glover.jpg)
Rashid - Laurence Fishburne (http://davidpelliott.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/matrix-morpheus_l1.jpg)
Injun Joe - Carl Weathers (http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/espy_awards_arrivals_5_120707/espy_awards_19_wenn1450311.jpg)
Waldo Butters - Chris Rock (http://data.yule.sohu.com/star/pic/star/3/3396/default.jpg)
Don Ortega - Jamie Foxx (http://hitmusicacademy.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/jamie-foxx.jpg)
Hendricks - Michael Clarke Duncan (http://www.thesharkbook.com/blog/uploaded_images/michael-clarke-duncan-729267.png)
Sanya - Topher Grace (http://www.bgawebsites.org/computerclass/2005-06/mollysaint/topher.jpg)

Susan - Sanaa Lathan (http://dafiffloor.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/sanaa-lathan-560.jpg)
Murphy - Halle Berry (http://www.twitterglitter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/1270975931.jpg)
Lea - Tyra Banks (http://traceyricksfoster.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/tyra-banks-gl10.jpg)
Mab - Angela Bassett (http://images.askmen.com/photos/angela-bassett/63837.jpg)
Charity - Vivica Fox (http://hiphopspy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/vivica-fox-4.jpg)
Luccio - Gabrielle Union (http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/05/04/2009-hot-100-100-91/71-Gabrielle_Union_Hot100_l.jpg)
Lara - Zoe Saldana (http://tbreak.com/rex/files/uploads/Zoe-Salda%C3%B1a41.jpg)
Molly - Alicia Keys (http://healmenow.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/alicia-keys.jpg)

Don't be racist, it's the perfect cast!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 08:21:57 PM
For Carlos Ramirez, I was thinking Jay Hernandez. I remember him from "Crazy/Beautiful" and when I started reading the books his look popped in my head.  He is also Mexician-American and 5'8.  Although, he's 31 - so he may be already too old since he should be around 25.  Although, there are plenty of good looking Latin actors.

Jay Hernandez. Has the look I imagined too.

But my choice was Freddy Rodriguez because he was bad a$$ in Planet Terror.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 24, 2010, 09:56:14 PM
don't worry, it's just a blonde moment.  It will pass.

Quite a feat for me, considering I'm not even blonde, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 24, 2010, 10:50:59 PM
Chris Rock for BUTTERS, Mo?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 25, 2010, 12:49:19 AM
Well, no wonder wizardkind thinks the White Court sucks, then.  ;D

Still laughing at the idea of Topher ("I'M tiny, but fierce") Grace as Sanyashka...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: PhoenixKnght86 on June 25, 2010, 02:06:57 AM
Don't knock on people being too old for certain roles. There's a reason that most casting these days has people that are actually ten years older playing roles that are ten years younger. Every once in a while, though, you have the cases like Supernatural, where the actors are the same age as their characters, lol.

Anyway, I've been reading this Supernatural/Dresden Files crossover fic that a friend turned me on to, and she's made an icon specifically for the fic (it's on LJ); The fic is called Lost Sons (http://phoenixknght86.livejournal.com/37537.html), and the actor she sees as Harry is actually Hugh Jackman. The picture that she specifically used fits really well, actually.

I actually used this thread to make the Dresden dream cast for Lost Sons. Hugh Jackman didn't have an contenders for Harry's place. But finding a picture of him was a pain in the neck. I also have many other characters casted and with pictures, I just haven't posted their images.

And thanks for reading my story! :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 25, 2010, 02:10:42 AM
Oh, back to Sanya.  I can't believe I totally forgot about my man Christopher Judge.  Okay, he may be too old for the part now, but he is a beast 6'3.  I think my waist is as big as his arms!  

(http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/rsz/434/x/x/x/medias/nmedia/18/35/64/22/18437117.jpg)(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e141/bobrulz600/Tealc.jpg)


I love Jason Momoa too. (He has been recently cast as Conan!) He is the right age (30, 6'4!!!) but sadly he is Hawaiian not African-American.  But I'm going to post his picture for the my ladies here... just 'cause...
(http://liveforfilms.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jasonmomoasgadude.jpg)(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/chocolatediva30/JMomoa.jpg)

....ahhhh, wait, what was I doing?

Oh right,... also, I have to say... Sanaa Lathan for Lucio 2.0 in her new body.  Who says she has to be a white girl?  (38, 5'7)  Okay, Lucio is suppose to look around 27ish being a grad student in all, but Sanaa's look is pretty adorablel!
(http://fileserver.glam.com/glampress/beauty/slideshows/redhaute/Sanaa-Lathan.jpg)(http://sweetandtalented.com/images/lathan/lathan14.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 25, 2010, 02:39:11 AM
I actually used this thread to make the Dresden dream cast for Lost Sons. Hugh Jackman didn't have an contenders for Harry's place. But finding a picture of him was a pain in the neck. I also have many other characters casted and with pictures, I just haven't posted their images.

And thanks for reading my story! :)

LOL, hah! That's nifty! And I love your story, it stays really true to both fandoms! Hopefully this crazy long thread is helping you with ideas on other cast members :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Nero on June 25, 2010, 04:07:37 AM
OK. What about Jared Leto as Thomas? Has anyone posted this before now?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cass on June 25, 2010, 05:03:56 AM
Oh right,... also, I have to say... Sanaa Lathan for Lucio 2.0.  Who says she has to be a white girl?  (38, 5'7)  Okay, Lucio is suppose to look around 27ish, but Sanaa's look is pretty adorablel!

She's 19th century Italian.
It's...unlikely in the extreme that her original body was African.
(Although, I grant you, still possible, even if it's likely that harry would have commented about it.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 25, 2010, 12:41:38 PM
She's 19th century Italian.
It's...unlikely in the extreme that her original body was African.
(Although, I grant you, still possible, even if it's likely that harry would have commented about it.)


I was thinking AFTER her body was taken by the Corpsetaker.  Lucio's new body is supposed to be a graduate student with dark curls and dimples.  (Okay, Sanaa doesn't really have dimples.)  I was just thinking of it after MoSeS cast that maybe Luccio's 2nd body could be African-American.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 25, 2010, 02:26:51 PM
OK. What about Jared Leto as Thomas? Has anyone posted this before now?

That actually did cross my mind, but I don't think it's been suggested yet.

He was good in Fight Club and Requiem for a Dream.

And his band 30 Seconds to Mars is pretty good.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 25, 2010, 02:35:51 PM
OK. What about Jared Leto as Thomas? Has anyone posted this before now?

Oh, good call!  He's a good actor too.

(http://dailymishmash.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/jared-hot.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 25, 2010, 02:41:57 PM
I was thinking AFTER her body was taken by the Corpsetaker.  Lucio's new body is supposed to be a graduate student with dark curls and dimples.  (Okay, Sanaa doesn't really have dimples.)  I was just thinking of it after MoSeS cast that maybe Luccio's 2nd body could be African-American.

I actually do think Denzel Washington could pull off Marcone. But I am not the first to suggest something like this, someone else earlier said Michael Clarke Duncan because he was Kingpin in Daredevil.

Luccio 2.0 has dark curls? I thought she was blonde?

Not that it matters, I think in a movie some liberties should be taken as long as the actor has the attitude of the character.

What was wrong with Gabrielle Union as Luccio 2.0? j/k

also Laurence Fishburne or Michael Clarke Duncan as McAnally instead

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 25, 2010, 03:46:53 PM
Quote
Luccio 2.0 has dark curls? I thought she was blonde?
Pretty sure there are descriptions of Ana's curls being dark, or possibly auburn.

Gina Holden comes close to the actress I've been thinking of, but not quite.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: stitchy1503 on June 26, 2010, 03:57:47 PM
I actually do think Denzel Washington could pull off Marcone. But I am not the first to suggest something like this, someone else earlier said Michael Clarke Duncan because he was Kingpin in Daredevil.


i'm not entirely sure that either of those pull off the fatherly coach look. I did have someone in mind but i cant for the life of me remember his name heh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on June 26, 2010, 06:48:45 PM
I reckon colin farrell could pull off marcone. He's five ten, so i dunno about pulling off any size (i can't remember if we have a quote on marcone's size), but he is fantastic as an actor, and really does make you believe.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 26, 2010, 06:58:05 PM
Wow - oh, no. I could not disagree more - I don't think Colin Farrell is right for Marcone at all. Too young, too smirky, too self-adoring. Ucch. He was one of the worst things about Daredevil - which was a fairly awful movie all around.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 26, 2010, 09:20:32 PM
Richard Gere as Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 27, 2010, 05:11:28 AM
I was thinking one of these two if not both could work out in a role but not sure which.

Nigel Bennet:
http://www.blackhatstation.com/PsiFactor/Central/wounds10.jpg

He played Lacroix in Forever Knight, has been in various shows as a side character or main character including Psi Factor and I think maybe X-Files.

Or even this guy:

Colin Fox:
http://www.andrewkwanartists.com/Artists/Fox/Text/assets/Colin_Fox_1.jpg

This guy has been in various shows as minor and main characters. Only thought of him when I decided to check out the new CN show (don't bother to watch, it sucks) "Unnatural History." Horrible Horrible show but the actor is good if he'd been the main guy and not the stupid kids. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 27, 2010, 05:51:47 AM

Colin Fox:
http://www.andrewkwanartists.com/Artists/Fox/Text/assets/Colin_Fox_1.jpg

This guy has been in various shows as minor and main characters. Only thought of him when I decided to check out the new CN show (don't bother to watch, it sucks) "Unnatural History." Horrible Horrible show but the actor is good if he'd been the main guy and not the stupid kids. :P

Huh. I've never seen this guy before, but looking at his picture, I thought, if he could put on a few more pounds, and grow a longer beard, that could be Eb!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 27, 2010, 06:36:07 AM
Lily?:
(http://static.cinemagia.ro/img/resize/db/actor/12/38/53/alexandra-stamler-413189l-175x0-wtm-7bfa313f.jpg)
(http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2008_Role_Models/008RMD_Alexandra_Stamler_001.jpg)

Alexandra Stamler/ Allie Stamler. saw her in Role Model on hbo, just randomly thought of her as really. maybe it's just her costume in the movie. >>

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on June 27, 2010, 06:45:37 AM
I was thinking one of these two if not both could work out in a role but not sure which.

Nigel Bennet:
http://www.blackhatstation.com/PsiFactor/Central/wounds10.jpg

He played Lacroix in Forever Knight, has been in various shows as a side character or main character including Psi Factor and I think maybe X-Files.
My favorite role from him was Prince  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isambard_Prince) in Lexx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexx). From the roles I remember most for him, I could see him pulling off Nicodemus, Can't really see him as anything not dark/evil
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sssarahdove on June 27, 2010, 06:54:35 AM
I always imagine flamboyant!overthetop!ghey Thomas as Russell Brand... any other time I don't really have a clear picture of him...
okay, so i wasnt the only person that thought of thomas upon seeing russell <3

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 27, 2010, 01:58:53 PM
I reckon colin farrell could pull off marcone. He's five ten, so i dunno about pulling off any size (i can't remember if we have a quote on marcone's size), but he is fantastic as an actor, and really does make you believe.

Have to disagree, Colin Farrell for Marcone is almost as bad as the suggestion of Orlando Bloom as Thomas. I really don't like either of these actors. That's why Colin Farrell played the last incarnation in The Imaginarium of Dr Parnassus, the one that get's
(click to show/hide)
.

I think Adrian Pasdar (from Heroes) would make a pretty good Marcone.
(http://www.coffeedrunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/0000035203_20061021061612.jpg)

I also liked the Ray Wise suggestion.
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/16882/Ray%20Wise.jpg)

Although these two are very different ages.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 27, 2010, 08:30:16 PM
I think Adrian Pasdar (from Heroes) would make a pretty good Marcone.
(http://www.coffeedrunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/0000035203_20061021061612.jpg)

Adrian makes a very convincing, somewhat terrifying Marcone just from the look on his face, lol. He's more how I imagine Marcone would be if he was the typical mob gangster style dude.

Quote
I also liked the Ray Wise suggestion.
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/16882/Ray%20Wise.jpg)

Although these two are very different ages.

I abide by Ray Wise for the role, just because he DOES look like a fatherly football coach. His eyes (though they look more blue-grey than 'green the color of worn dollar bills') have the sort of look to them that says that he can be a kind man, but can also be capable of horrific things. Maybe he's a little older than most would like for Marcone, particularly if you're imagining gun fights at the back of a compound against fifteen wolves, but for me, he's it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 27, 2010, 08:34:07 PM
It just occurred to me upon rereading the description of Murph's little sister Lisa that, whenever we collectively agree on the absolute, most awesome actress that's warrior princess-y enough to play Karrin, we need to find someone that looks enough like her that's more estrogen princess-y to play Lisa.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 28, 2010, 02:20:24 AM
Mental image for Ramirez:
(http://www.nvouspc.com/adminsite/attach/Enrique_Murciano_ppal.jpg)
Enrique Murciano.

too old, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 28, 2010, 04:18:42 AM
Huh. I've never seen this guy before, but looking at his picture, I thought, if he could put on a few more pounds, and grow a longer beard, that could be Eb!

He played an Eb-bish character on Unnatural History.
he usually plays villains or suspicious types.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 28, 2010, 05:02:16 PM
This one isn't as good as my last cast because most people won't know many of these.

Harry - Tony Leung (http://orientalis.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/tonyleung2.jpg)
Thomas - Takeshi Kaneshiro (http://iselldreams.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/takeshi_kaneshiro_01.jpg)
Morgan - Tak Sakaguchi (http://www.behindthehype.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Death-Trance-photo-02.jpg)
Kincaid - Tony Jaa (http://katsublog.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/tonyjaa18_400.jpg)
Michael - Jackie Chan (http://seasweetie.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/jackie-chan-20070701-277666.jpg)
Marcone - Andy Lau (http://www.123people.net/l/lau-andy/lau-andy1.jpg)
Ebenezar - Chow Yun-Fat (http://www.earthsmightiest.com/images/news/moviestv/Chow%20Yun%20Fat%20in%20Dragonball.jpg)
Nicodemus - Min-sik Choi (http://www.unbsj.ca/arts/english/jones/mt/images/choi-min-sik.jpg)
The Merlin - Jet Li (http://www.wushukicks.com/chinese-martial-arts/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/jet-li-wushu.jpg)
Waldo Butters - Masi Oka (http://aatheory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/masioka_20091029_aatheory.jpg)
Hendricks - Bolo Yeung (http://www.hkcinemagic.com/en/images/people/large/DoubleImpact-BoloYeung_6acebad73d9376f4a9fd43173069c03e.jpg)
Shiro - Chuck Norris (http://thesegoto11.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/chucknorris.jpg)

Susan - Zhang Zi Yi (http://www.oneinchpunch.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/zhang-ziyi.jpg)
Murphy - Shu Qi (http://movie.cyol.com/images/2006-09/01/xin_270903011055545141215.jpg)
Lea - Vicki Zhao (http://www.avodyssey.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/vicki.jpg)
Mab - Michelle Yeoh (http://www.malaysiamysecondhome.org/michelle-yeoh-wallpaper.jpg)
Charity - Maggie Q (http://www.entertainmentnutz.com/hot_shots/maggie%20q.jpg)
Lara - Lucy Liu (http://www.schemamag.ca/archive2/images/LUCY_LIU.jpg)
Molly - Aya Ueto (http://c2.api.ning.com/files/BeJs5ryEVNdQr0hw9CNysDbxFUR-lH8AfgviDuBjB3UbHtUccndlDhQM-PVA7qSFXpEfaTf3a91K0uCdc2I8gU0BamZlOl7u/aya_ueto_2005_azumi2_0023.jpg)
Ancient Mai - Betty White (http://assets.gearlive.com/tvenvy/blogimages/bettywhite_redjacket.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 28, 2010, 07:53:40 PM
Okay, that was pretty funny.  I like how you made it work for Betty White being Ancient Mai  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 28, 2010, 08:42:51 PM
Okay, that was pretty funny.  I like how you made it work for Betty White being Ancient Mai  ;D

Did you see who I cast for Shiro?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 29, 2010, 02:08:37 AM
Hard to miss it.  One of eight names I DID know.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 29, 2010, 01:29:17 PM
Ha, yeah I figured not too many people would know most of those, but had to do an asian cast since i did a african-american cast.

Harry - Will Smith (http://authorjuliejames.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/will1.jpg)
Thomas - Tyrese Gibson (http://rmusicb.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/tyrese-gibson-11.jpg)
Morgan - Taye Diggs (http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l458/glvalentine/questionabletaste/equilibrium/EquilibriumStill0044-BrandtTayeDigg.jpg)
Kincaid - Wesley Snipes  (http://planb.episerverhotell.net/PageFiles/8399/wesley_snipes_08.jpg)
Michael - Forest Whitaker (http://static.ulike.net/img/01_Ghost_Dog:_The_Way_of_the_Samurai.jpg)
Marcone - Denzel Washington (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/denzel_washington1_300_400.jpg)
Ebenezar - Morgan Freeman (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/244freemanmorgan092806.jpg)
Nicodemus - Samuel L Jackson (http://nycsveryown.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/samuel_l_jackson.jpg)
Carlos - Don Cheadle (http://www.etoday.ru/uploads/2008/02/10/don_cheadle.jpg)
The Merlin - Tiny Lister (http://www.blackwebportal.com/medi_images/Tommy%20Tiny%20Lister%20(9).jpg)
Rashid - Laurence Fishburne (http://davidpelliott.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/matrix-morpheus_l1.jpg)
Injun Joe - Carl Weathers (http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/espy_awards_arrivals_5_120707/espy_awards_19_wenn1450311.jpg)
Waldo Butters - Chris Rock (http://data.yule.sohu.com/star/pic/star/3/3396/default.jpg)
Don Ortega - Jamie Foxx (http://hitmusicacademy.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/jamie-foxx.jpg)
Hendricks - Michael Clarke Duncan (http://www.thesharkbook.com/blog/uploaded_images/michael-clarke-duncan-729267.png)
McAnally - Danny Glover (http://www.salsamania.it/news/farandula%20mia/dic07/danny%20glover.jpg)
Sanya - Topher Grace (http://www.bgawebsites.org/computerclass/2005-06/mollysaint/topher.jpg)

Susan - Sanaa Lathan (http://dafiffloor.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/sanaa-lathan-560.jpg)
Murphy - Halle Berry (http://www.twitterglitter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/1270975931.jpg)
Lea - Tyra Banks (http://traceyricksfoster.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/tyra-banks-gl10.jpg)
Mab - Angela Bassett (http://images.askmen.com/photos/angela-bassett/63837.jpg)
Charity - Vivica Fox (http://hiphopspy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/vivica-fox-4.jpg)
Luccio - Gabrielle Union (http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/05/04/2009-hot-100-100-91/71-Gabrielle_Union_Hot100_l.jpg)
Lara - Zoe Saldana (http://tbreak.com/rex/files/uploads/Zoe-Salda%C3%B1a41.jpg)
Molly - Alicia Keys (http://healmenow.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/alicia-keys.jpg)

What's crazy is when I looked at this again, I can really see alot of these actors being able to pull of the right attitudes.

Wesley Snipes as Blade is so Kincaid like. Taye Diggs character in Equilibrium was the police type character that held to the letter of the law, just like Morgan. Forest Whitaker in Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai was sort of like a knight. Sam Jackson as Nic, don't think i need to explain this one. Morgan Freeman, well he really could fit like 3 roles; Eb, Injun Joe, or The Merlin. Tiny Lister was the President in Fifth Element. Denzel as Marcone, I think it fits.

Off topic, I always thought Laurence Fishburne would be the perfect Apocolypse if they ever put that character in the X-Men movies.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on June 29, 2010, 04:01:29 PM
FWIW, I'm all for putting Taye Diggs in every movie, ever.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 29, 2010, 05:27:23 PM
Did you see who I cast for Shiro?

HAHAHA!!! Yes I did miss that ;D  Skipped right over Chuck for Betty.  Age befor beauty, I guess.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on June 29, 2010, 07:09:13 PM
Ha, yeah I figured not too many people would know most of those, but had to do an asian cast since i did a african-american cast.
As long as you do not do a Kevin Smith casting...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 29, 2010, 10:42:37 PM
Jay as Harry
Kevin as Bob
Ben Affleck as Johnny Marcone and rudolph
Jason Lee as Butters
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 30, 2010, 01:22:11 AM
Jay as Harry
Kevin as Bob
Ben Affleck as Johnny Marcone and rudolph
Jason Lee as Butters

The sad part? Jason Lee as Butters might just work. He's played stoned, he's played stupid, and now he's playing suave on Memphis Beat (TNT)... hell, might as well go for geniusy polka-happy medical examiner.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 30, 2010, 03:40:38 PM
Jason Lee as Harry, FTW!  ;)

(http://hideyourarms.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/karmaloopjl1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 30, 2010, 04:55:52 PM
Jason Lee as Harry, FTW!  ;)


I kind-of agree!  He is tall, cool, and witty as hell! 

(http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/Jason_Lee-10.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 30, 2010, 05:54:22 PM
I was kind of being sarcastic, but he would be better than Nathan Fillion.
(http://threetreesstudios.com/andscifi/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/l_a53a6650dbc43e02917c6fd80d1180fd.jpg)
I am amazed that Nathan Fillion is winning the poll. I just don't see it at all.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 30, 2010, 06:00:23 PM
My first pick would be Lee Pace(31). Second would be......tie between Zach Quinto(33) and Chris Evans(29), both have some pros and cons, Quinto comes off as too serious and Evans a little to comedic. Renolds(33) wouldn't be a terrible choice but also too comedic. Padalecki(27)... I don't know yet, haven't finished Supernatural.

Owen(45) was my first choice but he is too old, and Jackman(41) is up there to. Olyphant(42)...lost me at Hitman, and I don't watch Justified. Bettany(39)...just doesn't fit. Same with Butler(40). Neil Flynn(49) is too goofy for me, and way too old. Flanigan (43) also too old. Fillion(39) getting up there.

I favor the younger guys to kick off a movie franchise, makes sense that they can age with the movies, especially since harry is in his late 20's early 30's at the start of the series.

*btw those are their ages next to the names.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on June 30, 2010, 06:16:37 PM
I was kind of being sarcastic, but he would be better than Nathan Fillion.
(http://threetreesstudios.com/andscifi/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/l_a53a6650dbc43e02917c6fd80d1180fd.jpg)
I am amazed that Nathan Fillion is winning the poll. I just don't see it at all.



May we ask how old you are?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 30, 2010, 06:19:11 PM
My first choice is Joe Flanigan. 

(http://scifiandtvtalk.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/flanigan42.jpg)(http://www.comicbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/stormf01.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 30, 2010, 08:07:38 PM
Well, Nathan Fillion is on the poll; Nathan-as-Captain-Hammer is not.

Also, in my ever so humble opinion, Flanigan isn't a strong enough actor for the role of Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 30, 2010, 11:50:51 PM
I was kind of being sarcastic, but he would be better than Nathan Fillion.
(http://threetreesstudios.com/andscifi/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/l_a53a6650dbc43e02917c6fd80d1180fd.jpg)
I am amazed that Nathan Fillion is winning the poll. I just don't see it at all.



That would be because the picture you chose is of the oh-so-smug, full-of-himself Captain Hammer. Take Fillion, imagine him with longer, scruffier looking hair, and a permanent five o'clock shadow.... and make him lose about a hundred pounds.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 30, 2010, 11:52:08 PM
With Jaye Mewes as Murphy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 01, 2010, 01:03:25 PM
May we ask how old you are?

I am not sure what that has to do with it, but I am 28.

How old are you?  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on July 01, 2010, 01:10:02 PM
Now, do get me wrong.  I love Nathan Fillion in everything he's done.  And he would be a great Harry!  And he's such a sci-fi/fantasy fan that I think he would love to do it too.  However, he has always been to me, at least in my head while reading the books, Michael Carpenter.

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/090826/Nathan-Fillion_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 01, 2010, 01:11:20 PM
Now, do get me wrong.  I love Nathan Fillion in everything he's done.  And he would be a great Harry!  And he's such a sci-fi/fantasy fan that I think he would love to do it too.  However, he has always been to me, at least in my head while reading the books, Michael Carpenter.

See, now that I could get behind. He totally is how i would picture Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 01, 2010, 01:36:01 PM
I kind of notice a split when it comes to casting a movie.

I am more of a movie person. I don't watch many TV shows, though I am starting to now.

Anyhow. I notice through the entire thread that there are some that pick TV actors (Bomer and Fillion) over movie actors. IMO TV acting and movie acting are different. I think some actors make that transition well while others not so much.

That's not really saying a whole lot considering this poll because we have for example Quinto who has gone from Heroes to Star Trek movie. Pace from Wonderfalls and Pushing Daisies then his main movie role was The Fall which is a weird movie btw. Olyphant has gone from movies to now having his own show Justified. Fillion w/ Firefly to Serenity.
The rest in the poll are pretty much TV only or movie only as far as I can tell.

This however is moot when it come to my first pick for Harry because I would choose Pace who is as much of a movie actor as Fillion.

However, I didn't watch Firefly and I don't watch Castle, I did see Serenity though. Maybe this is why I am no huge fan of seeing Fillion as Harry, plus he doesn't fit the picture in my head.  :P But as I said above he does fit the picture I have of Michael in my head. Apparently Firefly and Castle are huge among the DF fans so I guess I better start watching these to find out what I am missing.

@Shecky
I guess I am too young maybe? or too old? I don't know, still not really sure what my age had to do with anything.  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 01, 2010, 06:05:06 PM
Olyphant(42)...lost me at Hitman, and I don't watch Justified.

Watch Justified.  It more than makes up for the travesty that was Hitman.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 01, 2010, 06:37:09 PM
I am not sure what that has to do with it, but I am 28.

How old are you?  :P

Considerably older. The trend I've noticed is that younger people tend to want younger actors playing Harry.

Unrelatedly, if you never watched "Firefly", you couldn't possibly know why so many people like him for the role of Harry - his character on that show... well, the snark was powerful in that one. He's one of the few who've proven they're capable of handling the snark. Even though he's a long way from looking the part, he could certainly ACT the part.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on July 02, 2010, 02:46:30 AM
Also, DEFINITELY watch Castle
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on July 02, 2010, 11:09:27 AM
I honestly don't see Fillion pulling it off, either.  And I did watch Castle, some, before I canceled my service.

If you'll all forgive me, I think part of it at least is that Fillion is the geek hero-of-choice.  There's no denying the man has a strong fanbase of, well, us.  Geeks.  If Bruce Campbell were younger, or if we were discussing this all five or ten years ago, I'd wager he'd be the frontrunner for Harry.  Lots of actors do quippy comedy well, and can stand up to all the green-screening that would be going on.  But the little something extra it takes to make someone Harry isn't necessarily there in either case, in my opinion.

And Shecky, I have to say that I favor someone younger, too, and I'm your age you old coot.  Storm Front Harry should be younger.

Now, I'm happy to see that some people agree Ryan Reynolds can pull it off.  He's got the range, he's got the scruff, he can look way younger or older, he'd just need to debuff (*sob*) and maybe dye the hair.  My FIRST CHOICE is, was, and remains, Paul Blackthorne.  Since the show, he's the Harry I see and hear in my head when I read the books.  Ryan gets tapped (so to speak *leer*) only if Blackthorne is unavailable.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 02, 2010, 01:00:16 PM
Oh, sure, for casting SF, the actor would have to be young. But remember: this is the PERFECT casting thread. Best-of-all-worlds, time-traveling casting, etc. Fillion, to me, doesn't have anywhere near the look of Harry, and that's not even considering age. But he's certainly got the CHARACTER down pat. Jim's personal pick, Alexi Denisof, I've never actually seen act (he was on Buffy, which I've never managed to watch more than a few episodes of), but apparently he's got both the look and the badass mentality (something about shooting his own father when he thought it necessary). I dunno.

Now, if we could graft personalities onto appearances... *descends into mad-scientist lab*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 01:10:54 PM
If you'll all forgive me, I think part of it at least is that Fillion is the geek hero-of-choice.  There's no denying the man has a strong fanbase of, well, us.  Geeks.  If Bruce Campbell were younger, or if we were discussing this all five or ten years ago, I'd wager he'd be the frontrunner for Harry.

this is the PERFECT casting thread. Best-of-all-worlds, time-traveling casting, etc.

Ah! I thought someone called "no time travel" way back in the thread, because someone had actually suggested Bruce Campbell and I was like no way he is way too old, and that's coming from me, I am a huge Bruce Campbell fan, Army of Darkness is one of my all time favs, and I watched every episode of Brisco County Jr when it originally aired.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 01:24:56 PM
Fillion, to me, doesn't have anywhere near the look of Harry, and that's not even considering age. But he's certainly got the CHARACTER down pat.

This statement makes sense, I agree with this.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 01:30:22 PM
But if we are time-traveling then my pick is Clint Eastwood.
(http://satyamshot.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/eastwood.jpg)
Give him a blasting rod and staff and we have a winner.

Though Clint's humor is a little bit dry.

My favorite quote:
Will Munny: Who's the fellow owns this shithole?
[pause]
Will Munny: You, fat man. Speak up.
Skinny Dubois: Uh, I... I own this establishment. I bought the place from Greeley for a thousand dollars.
[Will levels the shotgun, and speaks to someone standing behind Skinny]
Will Munny: You better clear outta there.
Man: Yes, sir.
[scampers out of the way]
Little Bill Daggett: Just hold it right there. Hold it...!
[Will shoots Skinny. Screaming, the women scatter upstairs]
Little Bill Daggett: Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!
Will Munny: Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend.

Dang now I want watch a western or go buy Red Dead Redemption.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 02, 2010, 01:37:34 PM
Jim's personal pick, Alexi Denisof, I've never actually seen act (he was on Buffy, which I've never managed to watch more than a few episodes of), but apparently he's got both the look and the badass mentality (something about shooting his own father when he thought it necessary). I dunno.


(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Jaeh_KS/AlexisDenisof_meins.jpg)

(http://images.tvrage.com/people/4/11582.jpg)

I see why. here's some pics.

and I remember him now. xD It's wesley!

The first picture just got to me. I think I have my harry. O.o

erm.. *blush* I can't stop staring at the picture.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 02, 2010, 01:51:41 PM
Yeah, and obviously having had the crap kicked out of him in the first picture makes him so much more Harry. :D

Ah! I thought someone called "no time travel" way back in the thread, because someone had actually suggested Bruce Campbell and I was like no way he is way too old, and that's coming from me, I am a huge Bruce Campbell fan, Army of Darkness is one of my all time favs, and I watched every episode of Brisco County Jr when it originally aired.

Brisco's awesome, isn't he? And part of the creation of visual Harry for the comic books was the use of Bruce Campbell's chin. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 02, 2010, 01:53:50 PM
Yeah, and obviously having had the crap kicked out of him in the first picture makes him so much more Harry. :D

this. so. freaking. this. I saw it, I was like... "HOLLY S**T, it's HARRY DRESDEN." :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 02, 2010, 02:31:37 PM

(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Jaeh_KS/AlexisDenisof_meins.jpg)

(http://images.tvrage.com/people/4/11582.jpg)



YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. See, there's a reason that Jim's the one writing the books. He's freaking brilliant. If Alexis Denisof is his personal choice, then I say Hells Yes.



(also, completely off topic, but I wanted you all to see this: Jim posted this link (http://amzn.to/azUor4) on his Twitter the other night -- some moron decided to leave a review for Changes and it made Jim go all 'grrrr argh.' I really wish the dude that wrote the review would look at all the comments [3 pages worth] that people left, following that travesty of a review. Because it pretty much echoes the post-Changes discussions that happened in these forums, lol.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 02, 2010, 02:38:26 PM
Yeah, I was pleased with my just-now-added snarking. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on July 02, 2010, 02:49:02 PM

(also, completely off topic, but I wanted you all to see this: Jim posted this link (http://amzn.to/azUor4) on his Twitter the other night -- some moron decided to leave a review for Changes and it made Jim go all 'grrrr argh.' I really wish the dude that wrote the review would look at all the comments [3 pages worth] that people left, following that travesty of a review. Because it pretty much echoes the post-Changes discussions that happened in these forums, lol.)

I decided to respond to the Green-eyed Monster that "reviewed" Changes...see the response to the poster C.S. Long(?)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 02, 2010, 03:11:39 PM
saw that. can you say "fans to the rescue"? xD

oh, and a friend of mine's fast. O.o Photoshop on Alexi Denisof; beat up harry: http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19347.0.html
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 03:47:33 PM
(also, completely off topic, but I wanted you all to see this: Jim posted this link (http://amzn.to/azUor4) on his Twitter the other night -- some moron decided to leave a review for Changes and it made Jim go all 'grrrr argh.' I really wish the dude that wrote the review would look at all the comments [3 pages worth] that people left, following that travesty of a review. Because it pretty much echoes the post-Changes discussions that happened in these forums, lol.)

That was an entertaining read. I cracked up when one commenter said "good review, mongoloid!" LMAO

Hillarious!

Anyway that reviewer is probably "Trolling" which I have only recently discovered in one of the video game forums.

For those who aren't familiar with trolling, this is apparently when someone says something inflammatory just to get a rise out of everyone.

I am not really sure what motivates them, I guess I can kind of see the appeal of pissing other people off, but I haven't personally crossed that line.....yet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 03:56:59 PM
Jim Butcher sux and I hate all of his books, and stories, and characters, and his hair.
 :o :( >:( ;D :D ;) ??? 8) ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( :) :P :o :-X >:( ::) :P :-\ ;) :P :'( :-X :o
(http://www.mcphersondq.com/Designs/15-fish2.jpg)               (http://d3b9cwalzc5eko.cloudfront.net/albacore-tuna-taking-the-bait.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on July 02, 2010, 04:03:58 PM
Can I get a mod over here please???

Preferably one with a tank???


 ;) :D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 02, 2010, 04:09:34 PM
Here.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/SheckyX/tankmuzzle-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 02, 2010, 04:10:05 PM
Here.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/SheckyX/tankmuzzle-1.jpg)

it's like staring into the hole of doom.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 04:14:59 PM
Here.

Oh no, Shecky is like a warden and he is going to put me under the Doom of Damocles for speaking against the GODLIKE Jim Butcher.

*If you didn't read that Amazon review you are missing the whole Godlike reference.

Yeah, yeah, I know it's the council that decides the Doom, but a single warden fits this scenario better.  :P

Ha, I couldn't see the image of the TANK at first and I thought Murphy's Stunt Double meant a fish tank, because of my "taking the bait" pictures.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 02, 2010, 04:16:09 PM
Oh no, Shecky is like a warden and he is going to put me under the Doom of Damocles for speaking against the GODLIKE Jim Butcher.

*If you didn't read that Amazon review you are missing the whole Godlike reference.

Just genuflect on your way out of the temple and we'll call it even.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 04:20:36 PM
Just genuflect on your way out of the temple and we'll call it even.

I had to look up Genuflect, how sad is my vocab. LOL
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 02, 2010, 04:21:23 PM
neat, new vocab word.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on July 02, 2010, 04:42:29 PM
Here.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/SheckyX/tankmuzzle-1.jpg)


I is ready wif da cannon, Cap'n Hammer!
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/12/iisreadywifcannonsir.jpg) (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/iisreadywifcannonsir.jpg/)



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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 02, 2010, 04:53:37 PM
I decided to respond to the Green-eyed Monster that "reviewed" Changes...see the response to the poster C.S. Long(?)

I read it! And I loved it!!! :D

Yeah, I was pleased with my just-now-added snarking. ;D

Shecky, your snarking is welcome anywhere, particularly when it cuts down utter morons who are completely deserving of it!

That was an entertaining read. I cracked up when one commenter said "good review, mongoloid!" LMAO

Hillarious!

It was completely fantastic! My own response is about the eighth one down from the first comment (and two underneath the one that got deleted by Amazon, haha).

saw that. can you say "fans to the rescue"? xD

oh, and a friend of mine's fast. O.o Photoshop on Alexi Denisof; beat up harry: http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19347.0.html


You have NO idea :D And oh, poor Alexis! Did your friend have to beat him up even more in that picture? LOL.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 02, 2010, 05:34:01 PM
You have NO idea :D And oh, poor Alexis! Did your friend have to beat him up even more in that picture? LOL.

read it. I would say something too, if I could have. haha.

oh, and she says that "he honestly wasn't beat up, lol, in the other pic".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on July 02, 2010, 06:22:28 PM
This one isn't as good as my last cast because most people won't know many of these.

Harry - Tony Leung (http://orientalis.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/tonyleung2.jpg)
Thomas - Takeshi Kaneshiro (http://iselldreams.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/takeshi_kaneshiro_01.jpg)
Morgan - Tak Sakaguchi (http://www.behindthehype.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Death-Trance-photo-02.jpg)
Kincaid - Tony Jaa (http://katsublog.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/tonyjaa18_400.jpg)
Michael - Jackie Chan (http://seasweetie.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/jackie-chan-20070701-277666.jpg)
Marcone - Andy Lau (http://www.123people.net/l/lau-andy/lau-andy1.jpg)
Ebenezar - Chow Yun-Fat (http://www.earthsmightiest.com/images/news/moviestv/Chow%20Yun%20Fat%20in%20Dragonball.jpg)
Nicodemus - Min-sik Choi (http://www.unbsj.ca/arts/english/jones/mt/images/choi-min-sik.jpg)
The Merlin - Jet Li (http://www.wushukicks.com/chinese-martial-arts/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/jet-li-wushu.jpg)
Waldo Butters - Masi Oka (http://aatheory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/masioka_20091029_aatheory.jpg)
Hendricks - Bolo Yeung (http://www.hkcinemagic.com/en/images/people/large/DoubleImpact-BoloYeung_6acebad73d9376f4a9fd43173069c03e.jpg)
Shiro - Chuck Norris (http://thesegoto11.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/chucknorris.jpg)

Susan - Zhang Zi Yi (http://www.oneinchpunch.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/zhang-ziyi.jpg)
Murphy - Shu Qi (http://movie.cyol.com/images/2006-09/01/xin_270903011055545141215.jpg)
Lea - Vicki Zhao (http://www.avodyssey.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/vicki.jpg)
Mab - Michelle Yeoh (http://www.malaysiamysecondhome.org/michelle-yeoh-wallpaper.jpg)
Charity - Maggie Q (http://www.entertainmentnutz.com/hot_shots/maggie%20q.jpg)
Lara - Lucy Liu (http://www.schemamag.ca/archive2/images/LUCY_LIU.jpg)
Molly - Aya Ueto (http://c2.api.ning.com/files/BeJs5ryEVNdQr0hw9CNysDbxFUR-lH8AfgviDuBjB3UbHtUccndlDhQM-PVA7qSFXpEfaTf3a91K0uCdc2I8gU0BamZlOl7u/aya_ueto_2005_azumi2_0023.jpg)
Ancient Mai - Betty White (http://assets.gearlive.com/tvenvy/blogimages/bettywhite_redjacket.jpg)

LOL you must watch alot of Asian dramas. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 02, 2010, 06:30:23 PM
That's a joke, right...?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 06:41:15 PM
That's a joke, right...?

You mean my Asian Cast, no that's 100% serial. Just like my African-American cast.

Especially Chuck Norris. http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/ (http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 06:44:51 PM
LOL you must watch alot of Asian dramas. ;)

Well I wouldn't say "drama", I think "suspense" more accurately describes it. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on July 02, 2010, 11:03:08 PM
Michael morpurgo for forthill? I know he isn't really an actor, but c'mon, if you've ever heard his audiobooks, he has quite a pleasant voice, and he kinda looks like the nice kind man who could be a priest if he wanted - http://dulwichgalleryfriends.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/sueg-michael-river-cropped2.jpg (http://dulwichgalleryfriends.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/sueg-michael-river-cropped2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 03, 2010, 04:51:04 AM
Added my own comment (Joshua Krebsbach), and yes, I went there.

And now that I see it, and I've heard him without the brit accent, Alexis Denisof is PERFECT for Dresden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 03, 2010, 05:00:28 AM
Added my own comment (Joshua Krebsbach), and yes, I went there.

And now that I see it, and I've heard him without the brit accent, Alexis Denisof is PERFECT for Dresden.

I just read that, and I about had a heart attack of the dreaded mention of the 'T' word near Butcher's name. <insert full body shudder> Yuck. Thanks for the nightmares, Jon.

Denisof played a stuffy British Watcher on BtVS, but if I remember rightly, he relaxed when he was brought in on AtS. He was more rogue on Angel, and a bit snarkier... now it's been a long time since I've seen an episode of Angel, but Alexis was on the show for all five seasons, so he definitely had room to grow the mandatory Joss-Whedon-Snark-App. I very much think that good ol' Wes could pull off Harry Dresden. Just so long as no one behind the scenes decides to get "creative" and give Harry a perma-scowl and sticky-uppy hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 03, 2010, 05:03:47 AM
I just read that, and I about had a heart attack of the dreaded mention of the 'T' word near Butcher's name. <insert full body shudder> Yuck. Thanks for the nightmares, Jon.

Denisof played a stuffy British Watcher on BtVS, but if I remember rightly, he relaxed when he was brought in on AtS. He was more rogue on Angel, and a bit snarkier... now it's been a long time since I've seen an episode of Angel, but Alexis was on the show for all five seasons, so he definitely had room to grow the mandatory Joss-Whedon-Snark-App. I very much think that good ol' Wes could pull off Harry Dresden. Just so long as no one behind the scenes decides to get "creative" and give Harry a perma-scowl and sticky-uppy hair.

As I said.  Yes.  I went there.  I'm not proud of it, but I stooped to his level.

Westly in seasons 4/5 was the best Westly in this Buffyverse Fan's opinion. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 04, 2010, 05:36:24 AM
Another point in my favor for Matt Bomer as Thomas:

OhDearGodInHeavenYum (http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/07/02/matt-bomer-wet-t-shirt-sexy/)

My brain will short circuit in 3... 2...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 04, 2010, 06:06:03 AM
*stares dumbly*

i'll be with him in my bunker.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 04, 2010, 06:17:59 AM
*surpresses gag reflex*

I'm not denying he looks the part.  Just gag at the picture.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 04, 2010, 06:27:25 AM
*surpresses gag reflex*

I'm not denying he looks the part.  Just gag at the picture.

Yeah.... you're not gonna find many women agreeing with you there, Jon :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 04, 2010, 06:28:06 AM
Got two.  My Sis and Mother both just said eww.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on July 06, 2010, 01:19:38 AM
Well I wouldn't say "drama", I think "suspense" more accurately describes it. :P

I'm so dense... I only just noticed the actual Asian characters you cast with White people *chuckles*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on July 06, 2010, 01:20:29 AM
I think Geoffrey Rush would make an excellent Erl King.
It just hit me since he's on SyFy now as that dutchman pirate in the Pirates of the Caribbean movie
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 06, 2010, 02:41:23 AM
I think Geoffrey Rush would make an excellent Erl King.
It just hit me since he's on SyFy now as that dutchman pirate in the Pirates of the Caribbean movie

Dutchman pirate...?

I think you're thinking of Bill Nighy. He played Davy Jones, the captain of the Flying Dutchman. Geoffrey Rush played Hector Barbossa, Sparrow's former first mate that jacked the Black Pearl out from under him :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 01:33:28 PM
I think Geoffrey Rush would make an excellent Erl King.
It just hit me since he's on SyFy now as that dutchman pirate in the Pirates of the Caribbean movie

I like Ron Perlman for the Erl King because I picture the Erl King looking like this. It's tough to find a good image of Hellboy with the Crown of the Apocalypse.
(http://bprd.b.p.pic.centerblog.net/de5k9sfn.jpg)

Which reminds me, the Drow Elf dude in this was awesome too (way cooler than Legolas).
(http://media.animegalleries.net/albums/userpics/176795/nuada-2.jpg)

Anyone here ever read R.A. Salvatore's Dark Elf Trilogy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 06, 2010, 02:26:37 PM
I just picture the Erlking looking more like a Teutonic Knight... something like this:

(http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28215&thumb=1&d=1230584604)

To that end, the actor underneath the armour isn't entirely in need of having huge acting chops - the Erlking could very well be CGI in his appearances.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 06, 2010, 02:39:14 PM
I just picture the Erlking looking more like a Teutonic Knight... something like this:

(http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28215&thumb=1&d=1230584604)

To that end, the actor underneath the armour isn't entirely in need of having huge acting chops - the Erlking could very well be CGI in his appearances.
(click to show/hide)

Dude, that is so awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on July 06, 2010, 04:09:07 PM
I like that too!  Very cool!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 06:50:11 PM
I totally agree with the armor.

However like you said, later they may need to have decent actor for the part.

I know Erlking roughly translates to
(click to show/hide)
, right? but isn't the Erlking really a
(click to show/hide)
?

Sorry I realize that is kind of SPOILERY.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 06, 2010, 06:57:12 PM
I know Erl King roughly translates to
(click to show/hide)
, right? but isn't the Erl King really a
(click to show/hide)
?

Sorry I realize that is kind of SPOILERY.

Actually Erlking in German is Erlkonig, which is "Alder King".  It was a mistranslation, the original Danish word was Elvrkonge or ElfKing.  Which, I guess, means you're right.  And yes the Erlking is the king of the
(click to show/hide)
.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 07:00:31 PM
So if we take some of that Teutonic Knight armor that miketh suggested, and throw it on Perlman, I think we would have our Erlking, because let's face it, Perlman doesn't even really need much make-up to look like a goblin.
(http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/ron-perlman.jpg)
Well, how I picture one anyway.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 06, 2010, 07:07:01 PM
Just a few scars and disfigurations, per Hollywood Magic Makeup, and we have our Der Erlkonig
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 07:07:22 PM
Of course, there is also this Goblin King.
(http://www.movieforum.com/movies/titles/labyrinth/images/jareth.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 07:10:56 PM
I just noticed it looks like his hands are missing?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 06, 2010, 07:11:16 PM
Um...no.  Not ugly enough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 07:15:27 PM
Um...no.  Not ugly enough.

I don't know, have you seen David Bowie lately. LOL

I was kidding about Bowie, I just remember that he played "Jareth the Goblin King" in Labyrinth.

Erlking is definitely Perlman.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 07:20:40 PM
I wish I had photoshop @ work. I never have time to photoshop anymore when I am @ home.

I would definitely get down on photoshoping some of these actors as these characters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on July 06, 2010, 10:57:28 PM
Anyone see the picture of Kanye West at the BET awards with the staff and the overly large amulet? He would be perfect for Harry in a blaxploitation version of the  Dresden Files directed by Quentin Tarantino.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on July 07, 2010, 03:21:04 AM
The Erlking is one case where I thing the slightly impersonal effect of having CG character would be right. But I'd want somebody good for the voice part. Pearlman would be a gimme. How 'bout somebody less on-the-nose? Christopher Plummer? Paul Bettany Sir Anthony Hopkins? All three of those voices blended by a computer?

... Betty White?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on July 07, 2010, 02:10:13 PM
Harry - Neil Flynn (Wouldnt have thought of it, but after I read this... damn... fits)
Thomas - Jared Leto (Pretty Boy)
Bianca - Amy Lee of Evanesence
Ramierz - Wilmer Valderama
Marcone - Dude who plays the Devil in Reaper
Molly - Hard Choice, I would go with the Paige Chick from Xmen and Hard Candy
Ebenezer - Anthony Hopkins
Bob - Hugh Laurie, or Bruce Cambell
Morgan - Alan Rickman
Nicodemus - Christophen Walken Ala Prophecy


Just who I think (Posting again)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 07, 2010, 02:39:50 PM
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/A_F/Bi_Bp/bionicWoman/bionic-woman-sheppard19.jpg)
Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus. With a little touching up, he could have the look together. He can definetly play as Nicodemus, since his entire acting career is mainly focused around playing dastardly, evil villains.

(http://i3.digiguide.com/p/0811/1411-MarkStrong-12278876820.jpg)
Mark Strong as Agent Denton. Mark Strong is really good at playing villains and he can pull off the whole look of a demented FBI werewolf guy.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 07, 2010, 02:43:07 PM
(http://i3.digiguide.com/p/0811/1411-MarkStrong-12278876820.jpg)
Mark Strong as Agent Denton. Mark Strong is really good at playing villains and he can pull off the whole look of a demented FBI werewolf guy.  ;D

I'd cast Mark Strong as any villain in DF (you know, the scary guy ones...). He's awesome and kinda versatile, imo.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on July 07, 2010, 02:45:51 PM
Betty White for Mrs. Spunklecrief!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 07, 2010, 02:48:07 PM
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/A_F/Bi_Bp/bionicWoman/bionic-woman-sheppard19.jpg)
Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus. With a little touching up, he could have the look together. He can definetly play as Nicodemus, since his entire acting career is mainly focused around playing dastardly, evil villains.


YESSSSS!!!!! I LOVE Mark Sheppard! He plays Crowley (the head-honcho Crossroads demon soul collector) on Supernatural, and Agent Sterling on Leverage, and he is absolutely freaking AWESOME! He would pull of Nicodemus without even trying!!

(In case you couldn't tell, Bluebeard, this suggestion excites me ;D)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on July 07, 2010, 02:54:55 PM
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/A_F/Bi_Bp/bionicWoman/bionic-woman-sheppard19.jpg)
Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus. With a little touching up, he could have the look together. He can definetly play as Nicodemus, since his entire acting career is mainly focused around playing dastardly, evil villains.


Yeah for Badger!  Er, Romo Lampkin!  :) Hehehe!

I love Mark Sheppard!  Yeah, I like that suggestion for Nicodemus.  I agree that he shouldn't be the typical "Christopher Lee" or something obvious.  Nocodemus is calculating, intelligent, and you never see him coming...  Mark Sheppard is perfect!  Great suggestion!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 07, 2010, 03:23:20 PM
Harry - Neil Flynn (Wouldnt have thought of it, but after I read this... damn... fits)
Thomas - Jared Leto (Pretty Boy)
Bianca - Amy Lee of Evanesence
Ramierz - Wilmer Valderama
Marcone - Dude who plays the Devil in Reaper
Molly - Hard Choice, I would go with the Paige Chick from Xmen and Hard Candy
Ebenezer - Anthony Hopkins
Bob - Hugh Laurie, or Bruce Cambell
Morgan - Alan Rickman
Nicodemus - Christophen Walken Ala Prophecy


Just who I think (Posting again)

Neil Flynn -  as Harry? I don't think I can see it at all. Especially if we're starting off with Storm Front. Flynn could maybe be future!Harry but only b/c he's 50 :-\
Thomas - I have already made up my mind on this :)
Bianca -- Good call! Amy Lee is pretty much Goth Queen of Gothonia, playing Bianca would only seal the deal.
(http://colunistas.ig.com.br/curioso/files/2009/07/amy_lee_267315.jpg)
Ramirez - After That 70's Show, I cannot ever see Wilmer Valderrama in a serious role. Ever. He pretty much screwed himself with the role he played on that show. For me at least, lol.
Marcone - Ray Wise! Thank you for affirming this! It's what I've been saying for a while now, lol.
Molly - Now I'm showing my ignorance... was she in the movies? I have no idea who you're talking about, seriously. All I know about who has to play Molly is that she's supposed to be naturally blonde (with the willingness to dye her hair with colors not normally found in nature), and she has to be 'tall and built like the proverbial brick house'... just like whoever is cast to play Charity. Except younger.
Ebenezer - Still not sure on this one. Anthony Hopkins has played some of the greatest, and some of the freakiest roles in the world, and not to say he's not completely awesome, but I'm not even sure he could pull off Eb's role.
Bob - Hugh Laurie is completely amazing and I adore him. Unfortunately, I feel the same toward Bruce Campbell. Both are awesome choices, and I don't wanna choose :-)
Morgan -- Alan Rickman scares the crap out of me as Severus Snape in the Potter movies. But I don't particularly think he's exactly Morgan-like.
Nicodemus - Bluebeard already gave me my Nicodemus with the awesomeness of Mark Sheppard :)

You forgot Murphy!

Not even kidding, I keep doing searches for tiny, ass-kicking blonde actresses, and Sarah Michelle Gellar pops up on every list. I'm beginning to think it should just be her, lol. And she's the right age ATM. Murphy's in her early thirties at the beginning of the series.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 07, 2010, 03:24:22 PM
Betty White for Mrs. Spunklecrief!

Dude!! I think you're completely right :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 07, 2010, 03:28:41 PM
Christopher Plummer? Paul Bettany Sir Anthony Hopkins? All three of those voices blended by a computer?

Hah, that would actually be kinda awesome :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 07, 2010, 03:51:28 PM
(http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/files/michael-weatherly-20070325-230878.jpg)
Although, Alexis Denisof is perfect for Dresden and I'm glad Jim picked him, my second choice for Dresden would be Michael Weatherly. The guy is hilarious if you've ever watched NCIS, and he does tend to tower over his fellow castmates because he's 6'2.  ;D

Murphy is hard to cast.. Sienna Miller, Allison Mack, Alice Evans, and Sarah Michelle Gellar all have a little Murphy in them, though.

I also tend to imagine Bob as being voice by Jude Law.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on July 07, 2010, 04:35:47 PM
Molly - Now I'm showing my ignorance... was she in the movies? I have no idea who you're talking about, seriously. All I know about who has to play Molly is that she's supposed to be naturally blonde (with the willingness to dye her hair with colors not normally found in nature), and she has to be 'tall and built like the proverbial brick house'... just like whoever is cast to play Charity. Except younger.
I think the reference is to Ellen Page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0680983/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 07, 2010, 05:05:24 PM
I think the reference is to Ellen Page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0680983/)

Oh. Ohhhhh, I see. I was confused, because there actually was a character in the XMen comics named Paige. (Yes I looked this up.) Ellen Page as Molly? If she's willing to go blonde, I'm all for it :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on July 07, 2010, 05:29:16 PM
Insofar as Molly's hair is rarely (only) blonde, I don't have a problem with Ellen Page not being blonde either. I Page a lot. She could definitely pull off the Grasshopper.

I like both Marks, Strong and Sheppard. I don't think of Nicodemus as being much like Badger, though.

Sienna Miller is a big, fat, honking NO! Under no circumstances should that talentless, boring shrew be allowed anywhere near the Dresdenverse. Ever.

What about Weatherly as Kincaid?

I like some of DrkHoax's suggestions a great deal, but I really, really want to switch Hugh Laurie to Morgan, and Alan Rickman to Bob. Jared Leto bores me, so he can't get my vote for Thomas, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 07, 2010, 05:41:17 PM
Insofar as Molly's hair is rarely (only) blonde, I don't have a problem with Ellen Page not being blonde either. I Page a lot. She could definitely pull off the Grasshopper.


Well, she'll go blonde at some point, lol. Her hair in Changes was her natural color, plus dark green streaks.

Now, who looks enough like Ellen to play Charity?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 07, 2010, 05:55:26 PM
I can't stand Ellen Page.

But it's because Juno was so overated and was a rip-off of a Korean movie Jeni Juno (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny,_Juno).

I liked Hard Candy, but everything since Juno it seems like she is that same character, and I hate her five-head.
(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/galleries/celebpicsday/201009/AY31745851_440x370.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 07, 2010, 06:00:55 PM
For Molly I like Deborah Ann Woll from True Blood.
(http://theaterofmine.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/deborah-ann-woll.jpg)
At first I thought D. Fanning because she is the right age, but most everyone disagrees with that choice.
(http://tonicgossip.com/wp-content/dakota-fanning-push-1.jpg)
Third choice would be Amanda Seyfried.
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/2800000/Amanda-Seyfried-amanda-seyfried-2805313-360-480.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 07, 2010, 06:11:53 PM
For Molly I like Deborah Ann Woll from True Blood.
(http://theaterofmine.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/deborah-ann-woll.jpg)
At first I thought D. Fanning because she is the right age, but most everyone disagrees with that choice.
(http://tonicgossip.com/wp-content/dakota-fanning-push-1.jpg)
Third choice would be Amanda Seyfried.
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/2800000/Amanda-Seyfried-amanda-seyfried-2805313-360-480.jpg)


Deborah Ann Woll would be good, but I don't think she could age with the role and Molly does start off really young.

Amanda Seyfried is a little too old, I think...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 07, 2010, 06:54:34 PM
Deborah Ann Woll would be good, but I don't think she could age with the role and Molly does start off really young.

Amanda Seyfried is a little too old, I think...

That's actually why I thought D. Fanning because both Woll and Seyfried are 25ish, but everyone seemed to shoot down the idea of 16 year old D Fanning even though Molly is 14 the first time she is introduced in the story.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 07, 2010, 06:56:25 PM
I like Weatherly.  Weatherly is awesome.  Michael Weatherly needs to be in here somewhere.  That being said.  Not Harry.  Marcone sure.  Not Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 07, 2010, 07:18:17 PM
That's actually why I thought D. Fanning because both Woll and Seyfried are 25ish, but everyone seemed to shoot down the idea of 16 year old D Fanning even though Molly is 14 the first time she is introduced in the story.

Meh, I don't like D. Fanning much, but she doesn't seem to look anything like how Molly is in the book... *shrug*

I'd go with Abigail Breslin, the girl from zombieland, because she's actually 14.  ;D

I like Weatherly.  Weatherly is awesome.  Michael Weatherly needs to be in here somewhere.  That being said.  Not Harry.  Marcone sure.  Not Harry.

Yeah, Weatherly could probably only do the humor part of the role, not the real badass stuff or emotional moments.

He has the look for Marcone, but I'm not exactly sure if he could do it...

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 07, 2010, 08:08:54 PM
Meh, I don't like D. Fanning much, but she doesn't seem to look anything like how Molly is in the book... *shrug*
I'd go with Abigail Breslin, the girl from zombieland, because she's actually 14.  ;D

Abigail Breslin....hum. I would agree, but everyone shot down D Fanning because they felt she was "too small" and Breslin is even smaller.

And I guess no one has watched Push. D Fanning's character was pretty much exactly like Molly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 07, 2010, 08:24:17 PM
Abigail Breslin....hum. I would agree, but everyone shot down D Fanning because they felt she was "too small" and Breslin is even smaller.

And I guess no one has watched Push. D Fanning's character was pretty much exactly like Molly.

Well remember, she would start out as 14 (Death Masks), and Breslin could possibly get bigger from there.

Or maybe I'm just not a big fan of D. Fanning. *shrug*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Efialtis on July 08, 2010, 05:19:25 AM
Just to throw a wrench in things...
How about Jonathan Rhys Meyers for Dresden?(http://www.topnews.in/files/Jonathan.Rhys.Meyers.jpg)
Granted, not the greatest picture...but...?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 08, 2010, 10:02:40 AM
(http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/files/michael-weatherly-20070325-230878.jpg)
Although, Alexis Denisof is perfect for Dresden and I'm glad Jim picked him, my second choice for Dresden would be Michael Weatherly. The guy is hilarious if you've ever watched NCIS, and he does tend to tower over his fellow castmates because he's 6'2.  ;D

Like this. It's either him or Alexis Denisof for me. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 01:10:15 PM
Just to throw a wrench in things...
How about Jonathan Rhys Meyers for Dresden?(http://www.topnews.in/files/Jonathan.Rhys.Meyers.jpg)
Granted, not the greatest picture...but...?

I think he would be more of a Thomas.
(http://ladamesansregrets.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/jonathan-rhys-meyers-tudors-08.jpg)
To good looking to be Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 01:17:24 PM
(http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/files/michael-weatherly-20070325-230878.jpg)
Although, Alexis Denisof is perfect for Dresden and I'm glad Jim picked him, my second choice for Dresden would be Michael Weatherly. The guy is hilarious if you've ever watched NCIS, and he does tend to tower over his fellow castmates because he's 6'2.  ;D

I am not familiar with this actor, but he also looks kind of too pretty/clean cut for Harry. Maybe another Thomas candidate. I would have to see this guy with some facial hair maybe.

I agree with Denisof for Harry because he is handsome but not really pretty IMO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 08, 2010, 02:55:28 PM
I am not familiar with this actor, but he also looks kind of too pretty/clean cut for Harry. Maybe another Thomas candidate. I would have to see this guy with some facial hair maybe.

I agree with Denisof for Harry because he is handsome but not really pretty IMO.

http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/michael-weatherly/michael-weatherly-20080607-421050.jpg (http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/michael-weatherly/michael-weatherly-20080607-421050.jpg)

A picture with more facial hair...

I'm looking for an actress to play Murphy, but no one really fits into the ideal image...

(http://mydisguises.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/morenabaccarin.jpg)
I like Morena Baccarin as Bianca. She can do a totally alien role because she's always played rather off character and recently played the leader of the aliens in V/

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 08, 2010, 04:43:15 PM
Seconded.

And Michael Weatherly was able to do the serious role too, as the "Eyes Only" dude from Dark Angel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 08, 2010, 05:12:29 PM
Seconded.

And Michael Weatherly was able to do the serious role too, as the "Eyes Only" dude from Dark Angel.

I had forgotten about Dark Angel.  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Uilos on July 08, 2010, 05:30:34 PM
For some reason, I see Mia Wasikowska as what Ivy would look like in the second half of the series.

(http://blog.newsok.com/bamsblog/files/2008/07/mia-wasikowska.jpg) (http://wearemoviegeeks.com/wp-content/mia_wasikowska.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 05:57:05 PM
For some reason, I see Mia Wasikowska as what Ivy would look like in the second half of the series.

Sure, except Mia Wasikowska is 20 years old and Ivy is 7, and I realize you said second half of series, but it's still not a logical choice considering the huge age difference.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Uilos on July 08, 2010, 05:59:30 PM
Sure, except Mia Wasikowska is 20 years old and Ivy is 7, and I realize you said second half of series, but it's still not a logical choice considering the huge age difference.

Ivy is roughly twelve by Small Favors, she is introduced as being 7
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 08, 2010, 06:13:16 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Lindsey_McDonald.gif)
I would like to see Christian Kane as Kincaid, but isn't Kincaid blonde in the books?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 06:19:01 PM
Ivy is roughly twelve by Small Favors, she is introduced as being 7

You are correct, I still think it's a huge age gap though. A 20 year old playing a 7 year old circa Death Mask or even a 12 year old circa Small Favors.

Now if we aren't doing realistic casting, for example time traveling, then yeah I would say she has the look.

But in reality if the casted the movies right now Mia Wasikowska would be way too old.

Now Chloe Moretz on the other hand is 13 right now (vs Mia @20) and would make a perfect Ivy. Granted it's still cutting it close at this point.
(http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/042209_kick-ass_moretz.jpg)
Another good suggestion earlier in this thread was Morgan Lily age 10.
(http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/photos/stylus/112881-morgan_lily_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 06:20:35 PM
I would like to see Christian Kane as Kincaid, but isn't Kincaid blonde in the books?

He could die his hair, but I don't really get the "Hellhound" vibe from this guy anyhow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 08, 2010, 06:29:51 PM
He could die his hair, but I don't really get the "Hellhound" vibe from this guy anyhow.

I picked Kane because on Leverage, he's the 'Hitter', sort of a mercenary-for-hire. So I thought he could pull off Kincaid's role.

Yeah, I think Chloe Moretz is perfect for Ivy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 06:36:24 PM
I picked Kane because on Leverage, he's the 'Hitter', sort of a mercenary-for-hire. So I thought he could pull off Kincaid's role.

That makes sense.

However, Timothy Olyphant also played a "Hitman (http://scissormonkey.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/hitman.jpg)" and most of us still regret that.

My choice is Alexander Skarsgard (http://suckerforvampires.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/alexander-skarsgard-1.jpg), he is awesome on True Blood. And I didn't watch Generation Kill, but he was apparently awesome on that show as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 08, 2010, 06:41:35 PM
That makes sense.

However, Timothy Olyphant also played a "Hitman (http://scissormonkey.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/hitman.jpg)" and most of us still regret that.

My choice is Alexander Skarsgard (http://suckerforvampires.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/alexander-skarsgard-1.jpg), he is awesome on True Blood. And I didn't watch Generation Kill, but he was apparently awesome on that show as well.

Haha, I remember Hitman. That was terrible.  >:(

Skarsgard does sort of look like the ideal image of Kincaid. He's got the blonde hair and everything, don't watch much true blood, though...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 06:45:57 PM
Everyone that reads Dresden Files would probably like True Blood, it's got vamps (not the sparkly kind), and shifters, werewolves, etc. Great show IMO, it's better than the Dresden Files TV show.

*albeit I never read the Sookie Stackhouse novels, and I read Dresden Files way before seeing the TV show.

Come to think of it, I think Charmed and Buffy were also better shows.  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Uilos on July 08, 2010, 06:49:28 PM
Everyone that reads Dresden Files would probably like True Blood, it's got vamps (not the sparkly kind), and shifters, werewolves, etc. Great show IMO, it's better than the Dresden Files TV show.

*albeit I never read the Sookie Stackhouse novels, and I read Dresden Files way before seeing the TV show.

Also, one of the Sookie Stackhouse novels makes an oblique reference to Harry, I believe
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 08, 2010, 07:00:16 PM
Everyone that reads Dresden Files would probably like True Blood, it's got vamps (not the sparkly kind), and shifters, werewolves, etc. Great show IMO, it's better than the Dresden Files TV show.

*albeit I never read the Sookie Stackhouse novels, and I read Dresden Files way before seeing the TV show.

Come to think of it, I think Charmed and Buffy were also better shows.  :P

I might watch it one day, my brother is a big fan of it...

Buffy (and Angel) was an awesome series. Never really watched Charmed besides about three episodes. I also like Supernatural, a lot.

(http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~peortega/images/elisha-cuthbert2.jpg)
Eisha Cuthbert as Murphy? What do you guys think? She was in 24, as Kim Bauer...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 07:51:52 PM
That crossed my mind but she is a little young, and though I think she is smokin' hot, I don't think she is that strong of an actress.

I think she would be better for like a Lasciel or something like that, there again I don't know if she could pull off the "Temptress" but she didn't do soo bad with that in Girl Next Door.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 03:03:18 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Lindsey_McDonald.gif)
I would like to see Christian Kane as Kincaid, but isn't Kincaid blonde in the books?


I... I-I.... guh.

*blink*

I'm sorry, I utterly lost control of my mouth for a minute. And my eyes. And my tongue. And pretty much my mind.

And I could actually see CK playing Kincaid, since he's Eliot Spencer on Leverage and gets to beat the crap out of everything (a long cry from his days as Lindsey McDonald on Angel), but yes, Kincaid is blonde in the books. He's described as having 'golden blonde hair' that he occasionally wears tied back in a ponytail.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 09, 2010, 04:56:19 AM

I... I-I.... guh.

*blink*

I'm sorry, I utterly lost control of my mouth for a minute. And my eyes. And my tongue. And pretty much my mind.

And I could actually see CK playing Kincaid, since he's Eliot Spencer on Leverage and gets to beat the crap out of everything (a long cry from his days as Lindsey McDonald on Angel), but yes, Kincaid is blonde in the books. He's described as having 'golden blonde hair' that he occasionally wears tied back in a ponytail.

Hmm, they could dye his hair for that. Skarsgard looks the part, though.

Hasn't CK had a ponytail before, though?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 09, 2010, 05:33:38 AM
While on the topic of Fool Moon, who agrees with Hugh Jackman for Harly MacFinn?  He fits Harry's "overly masculine" stereotype fairly well, IMHO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 05:41:14 AM
Hmm, they could dye his hair for that. Skarsgard looks the part, though.

Hasn't CK had a ponytail before, though?

(http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/p99FrC9nyfmwA8QHF-saRg41092)

It's not at a really good angle to see it, but yes, his hair's in a ponytail. This also happens to be CK's Big Bad look :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 05:43:57 AM
While on the topic of Fool Moon, who agrees with Hugh Jackman for Harly MacFinn?  He fits Harry's "overly masculine" stereotype fairly well, IMHO.

Did you mean Harley the second time?

Well. Given that Harley becomes an incredibly large, hairy, frightening wolf animal in Fool Moon, and Jackman has actually played a wolfman before (I'm not talking about the incredibly hairy, incredibly awesome Wolverine, although that was a treat; I'm talking about the CGI werewolf that he "became" in Van Helsing), I wouldn't say no to it :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on July 09, 2010, 11:40:16 AM
The Only reason I picked Jared Leto for Thomas is you need to find someone who just isnt OMG to girls, but someone that also a guy can say, yeah he is decent looking. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 01:25:21 PM
Who else provides comic relief besides Harry? I can't really remember anyone else at the moment.
Anyhow I was watching something with Sean William Scott in it last night and I forgot how much I like him, and I was trying to think of who he could play in the Dresden cast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on July 09, 2010, 02:51:58 PM
Rudolf the Brown Nose
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 09, 2010, 02:58:01 PM
Did you mean Harley the second time?

Well. Given that Harley becomes an incredibly large, hairy, frightening wolf animal in Fool Moon, and Jackman has actually played a wolfman before (I'm not talking about the incredibly hairy, incredibly awesome Wolverine, although that was a treat; I'm talking about the CGI werewolf that he "became" in Van Helsing), I wouldn't say no to it :)
No, I meant that Harry describes him in his mind as 'overly masculine', which fits Jackman very well.  And I absolutely loved Van Helsing, I wish that it could have become a series as intentioned  :-\

As for Sean William Scott - he could be Ramirez, of course :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 03:37:52 PM
No, I meant that Harry describes him in his mind as 'overly masculine', which fits Jackman very well.  And I absolutely loved Van Helsing, I wish that it could have become a series as intentioned  :-\

OMG you loved Van Helsing........I had high hopes for it but I now have the opposite of love for that movie, it was terrible. Don't get me wrong, I love Jackman and Beckinsale, I was just very dissapointed in the dialogue and storyline of the Van Helsing movie. Especially when they start the movie off with him chasing Mr Hyde so soon after LXG movie. Also why is Frankenstein's monster act like a big teddy bear. And why is that Dracula is so pissed about losing a finger, and how come we don't see that he is missing it until the end, and if he can morph clothing why the hell can't he morph a finger. And the ridiculous scene where they had to unecessarily throw the syringe when they were just going to meet up on the other side of the bridge anyways. And worst of all an Angel bumped his head and got amnesia and turns into a werewolf. Really!?! Just an awful awful movie!

Great cinematography, costume design, and special effects at least.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 03:44:08 PM
Who else provides comic relief besides Harry? I can't really remember anyone else at the moment.
Anyhow I was watching something with Sean William Scott in it last night and I forgot how much I like him, and I was trying to think of who he could play in the Dresden cast.

Make him dye his hair darker, and he could play Billy :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 03:47:07 PM
Make him dye his hair darker, and he could play Billy :)

I thought about that, but Sean William Scott is a little to old to play Billy, and I already had Billy pegged as Emile Hirsch.
(http://elbee4.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/emile-hirsch_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 03:50:46 PM
No, I meant that Harry describes him in his mind as 'overly masculine', which fits Jackman very well.

Heh. That's one way to describe him.

Someone needs to create an emoticon with Jim's trademark fishhook eyebrow dealie :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 03:59:42 PM
I thought about that, but Sean William Scott is a little to old to play Billy, and I already had Billy pegged as Emile Hirsch.
(http://elbee4.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/emile-hirsch_l.jpg)

Huh. He certainly looks like he could play Billy!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 04:03:14 PM
While we are on the subject of Jackman he is pretty much the new Clint Eastwood IMO.

Though Viggo Mortisen makes a pretty good gunslinger too.

Brolin was ok in Jonah Hex, but that movie bombed anyway, I thought it was decent, but it only made 9 mil opening weekend, which is considered a bomb since the budget was 47 mil.

I know it's off topic, but I always try to think of newer actors that could replace some of the greats that are gone or passed their prime.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 04:20:32 PM
Another one is Willem Dafoe in Cirque du Freak: The Vampire's Assistant, when I saw him in that I was like OMG it's Vincent Price.
(http://www.hollow-art.com/files/imagecache/rss100x100/bases/highlights/5494/hollow_art_wdva011.jpg)(http://www.scott-golden.com/halloween/HalloweenMedia/Vincent%20Price/vincent.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 04:38:57 PM

(http://mydisguises.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/morenabaccarin.jpg)
I like Morena Baccarin as Bianca. She can do a totally alien role because she's always played rather off character and recently played the leader of the aliens in V/

Actually, I kind of see Morena as a possible Susan Rodriguez. Morena was born in Rio de Janeiro :)

And personally, I definitely see her as a seductive-type character that could certainly catch Harry's attention. I kinda want to see her expand outside of oddball alien roles :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 09, 2010, 04:52:08 PM
Actually, I kind of see Morena as a possible Susan Rodriguez. Morena was born in Rio de Janeiro :)

And personally, I definitely see her as a seductive-type character that could certainly catch Harry's attention. I kinda want to see her expand outside of oddball alien roles :)

I considered her for Susan, but Butcher said Erica Cera, and that was a good choice, IMO.

I think she could combine both the seductiveness of a vampire along with their alien nature, as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 06:12:20 PM
I know these aren't really big parts but Don Paolo Ortega and The Red King.
(http://theantoniobanderas.com/UserFiles/2009/7/22/Antonio-Banderas-wants-to-p.jpg)(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cb/RobertLaSardoTattoo.JPG/415px-RobertLaSardoTattoo.JPG)(http://www.nndb.com/people/087/000026009/bdt.jpg)(http://www.nndb.com/people/733/000109406/javier-bardem.jpg)(http://www.collider.com/wp-content/image-base/People/D/Danny_Trejo/danny_trejo.jpg)

I was thinking LaSardo for Red King because he already has that Aztec thing kind of going on.
At first I thought Banderas for Ortega but now I kind of think Del Toro.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 06:24:13 PM
And Henry Rollins (http://julieluongo.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/henry-rollins.jpg) should play Henry Rawlins.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 09, 2010, 06:38:39 PM
I think that Javier Bardem (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000849/) could play a great Grevane.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 06:38:59 PM
Toot-toot should be played by Robert Pattinson.
(http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/000989475/profiles_EFairy_4312_200020_xlarge.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
I think that Javier Bardem (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000849/) could play a great Grevane.

or Willem Dafoe.
(http://dgt1.net/manny/mblog/images/willem_defoe.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 06:45:56 PM
Toot-toot should be played by Robert Pattinson.
(http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/000989475/profiles_EFairy_4312_200020_xlarge.png)

LMFAO. Perfect. Just dye his hair purple :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 06:48:09 PM
I think that Javier Bardem (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000849/) could play a great Grevane.
or Hugo Weaving.
(http://livingromcom.typepad.com/my_weblog/images/agent_smith_poses04.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 09, 2010, 07:25:03 PM
And Henry Rollins (http://julieluongo.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/henry-rollins.jpg) should play Henry Rawlins.  ;D

I thought Rawlins was black though?  ???
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 07:30:47 PM
I thought Rawlins was black though?  ???

Probably, I just said that because the names are homophones.
He could go through that procedure that Robert Downey Jr had in Tropic Thunder, or the plastic surgery that Kyle had in South Park a.........something plasty.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 08:13:11 PM
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/entertainment/thumbnailfull/reginald-veljohnson-darius-mccrary-2009-4-19-21-51-6.jpg)

Remember this guy? (The older one, not the younger one.)

If you said Carl Winslow from Family Matters, you're right. This is Reginald Vel Johnson, whose face is always in my mind when I imagine what Rawlins looks like :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on July 09, 2010, 08:20:44 PM
John Cusack would make a great Harry Dresden
Tim Blake nelson a good Waldo butters
benicio del toro as Raoul Ortega
Ian McKellen as Arthur Langtry
Emily Deschanel Karen Murphy
antonio banderas - gatekeeper
 
a few ideas for cast members
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on July 09, 2010, 08:24:18 PM
Quote
This is Reginald Vel Johnson, whose face is always in my mind when I imagine what Rawlins looks like
Mine, too! It's either him or Mark Christopher Lawrence ("Big Mike" from Chuck.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 09, 2010, 08:27:32 PM
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/entertainment/thumbnailfull/reginald-veljohnson-darius-mccrary-2009-4-19-21-51-6.jpg)

Remember this guy? (The older one, not the younger one.)

If you said Carl Winslow from Family Matters, you're right. This is Reginald Vel Johnson, whose face is always in my mind when I imagine what Rawlins looks like :)

He looks exactly how I picture Rawlins!  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 08:41:38 PM
John Cusack would make a great Harry Dresden
Tim Blake nelson a good Waldo butters
benicio del toro as Raoul Ortega
Ian McKellen as Arthur Langtry
Emily Deschanel Karen Murphy
antonio banderas - gatekeeper
 
a few ideas for cast members

John Cusack.....I like him but he definitely could not pull off Harry. His humor is too dry.

Tim Blake Nelson for Butters. Good choice. But I now think Justin Long (http://www.b105.com/blog/media/justin-long1.jpg), since everyone said my idea of Steve Buscemi and Paul Reubens were both too old.

Benicio Del Toro as Don Paolo Ortega. Yes.

Ian McKellen as Arthur Langtry. I thought so too, but many people thought it was too cliche, because Gandolf.

Emily Deschanel as Karrin Murphy. That could work, I don't know her work that well though.

Antonio Banderas as Rashid/The Gatekeeper....eh, Rashid is suppose to be middle eastern so my pick is Oded Fehr (http://angelacameron.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/oded-fehr.jpg) even though he is only 40ish, but it's easy to make people look older.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 09:13:22 PM
So I've been keeping my own cast listing, with all the DF characters and who I think should play them... And it's rather pathetically empty, lol. And I'm too lazy to go back through all of my past posts and see who all I've chosen for the majority of roles, but I at least have my top four characters filled out.

Harry -- Alexis Denisof (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u250/heuchelinchen/Angel/Autogramme/Alexis%20Denisof/AlexisDenisof_meins.jpg) (Thank you, Jim!)
Murphy -- Elisabeth Röhm (http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u66/rlashea/elisabeth-rohm.jpg) (the chick in my icon)
Thomas -- Matt Bomer (http://dirkmancuso.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/c3kha8tqthjbhk8b.jpg)
Molly -- Sammi Hanratty (http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/v/6/v6fi256yd7uffuy.jpg) (as younger Molly) and Deborah Ann Woll (http://www.poptower.com/images/db/10130/450/450/deborah-ann-woll.jpg) as 17 to 20-something year old Molly :)

Plus, I have...

Marcone -- Ray Wise (http://lh6.google.com/nerdspawn/R_yNBESdiBI/AAAAAAAAACA/bfbbCAWBo7c/s400/Ray%20Wise%20in%20Reaper.jpg)
Morgan -- Jean Reno (http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/actores/jean_reno/fotos/1059/jean_reno.jpg) (check out his performance in The da Vinci Code. Eep.)
Rashid -- Shaun Toub (http://c0181301.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/NEEEiJJLVt5yII_1_1.jpg)
Martha Liberty -- CCH Pounder (http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pounder.jpg)
Ebenezar -- Jim Beaver (http://images.buddytv.com/usrimages/usr3165401/3165401_118d8f8c-658f-406d-a159-6bb02feb0b55-jim-beaver.jpg) (For those of you who watch Supernatural, and love his character Bobby Singer, you KNOW why I chose him as Eb!)
Justine -- Rachel McAdams (http://hairbrained.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/rachel-mcadams-hair-latest-hairstyles-com.jpg) (I say Rachel as Justine, because she has had a myriad of different performances [translation = she plays bat-shit stinking crazy well], plus Justine is described as 'the girl next door.' I originally wanted Jennifer Garner as Justine, but didn't think that would work too well :-\)
Nicodemus -- Mark Sheppard (http://media.battlestarwiki.org/images/8/8c/Mark_Sheppard.jpg)
Bianca -- Amy Lee (http://www.getonmyspace.com/Images/Female_Celebrities/Amy_Lee/images/Sexy_Amy_Lee_0066.jpg)
And for some reason, whenever I think of Tessa, I think of Julie Benz (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/95/S205_Darla.JPG/270px-S205_Darla.JPG), who was so awesome at playing psycho loony bitch Darla on Buffy and Angel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 09, 2010, 09:16:56 PM
So I've been keeping my own cast listing, with all the DF characters and who I think should play them... And it's rather pathetically empty, lol. And I'm too lazy to go back through all of my past posts and see who all I've chosen for the majority of roles, but I at least have my top four characters filled out.

Harry -- Alexis Denisof (Thank you, Jim!)
Murphy -- Elisabeth Rohm (the chick in my icon)
Thomas -- Matt Bomer
Molly -- Sammi Hanratty (http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/v/6/v6fi256yd7uffuy.jpg) (as younger Molly) and Deborah Ann Woll as 17 to 20-something year old Molly :)

Plus, I have...

Marcone -- Ray Wise
Morgan -- Jean Reno (check out his performance in The da Vinci Code. Eep.)
Rashid -- Shaun Toub
Martha Liberty -- CCH Pounder
Ebenezar -- Jim Beaver
Justine -- Rachel McAdams
Nicodemus -- Mark Sheppard
Bianca -- Amy Lee
And for some reason, whenever I think of Tessa, I think of Julie Benz, who was so awesome at playing psycho loony bitch Darla on Buffy and Angel.


I keep my own list and it is also very empty. I like Elisabeth Rohm as Murphy, Sammi Hanratty as Molly, and YES to Jim Beaver as Ebenezar! Mark Sheppard was like my first suggestion in this topic, lol.

Julie Benz could pull off Tessa, I think, but isn't Tessa described as like a fifteen old girl?

Rohm is too tall, though. She's 5'8.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 09:35:14 PM
I keep my own list and it is also very empty. I like Elisabeth Rohm as Murphy, Sammi Hanratty as Molly, and YES to Jim Beaver as Ebenezar! Mark Sheppard was like my first suggestion in this topic, lol.

Julie Benz could pull off Tessa, I think, but isn't Tessa described as like a fifteen old girl?

Rohm is too tall, though. She's 5'8.

LOL, it's your fault I'm so set on Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus anyway! :D

And yeah, she is, but how many fifteen year old actresses are you going to find willing to do the things Tessa has done in the books? Plus, did you SEE the first season of Buffy, with Darla skipping around in a freaking Catholic school girl outfit? She passed off as a high school girl in the first episode, at least till she killed the guy she was with, if I remember right.

And my only other choice for Murphy is Sarah Michelle Gellar. She's certainly short enough, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 09, 2010, 10:01:14 PM
LOL, it's your fault I'm so set on Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus anyway! :D

And yeah, she is, but how many fifteen year old actresses are you going to find willing to do the things Tessa has done in the books? Plus, did you SEE the first season of Buffy, with Darla skipping around in a freaking Catholic school girl outfit? She passed off as a high school girl in the first episode, at least till she killed the guy she was with, if I remember right.

And my only other choice for Murphy is Sarah Michelle Gellar. She's certainly short enough, lol.

lol

Hmm, Julie Benz could pull off, definetly, though. Not sure if she could still pass a high schooler, nowadays.

Yeah, SMG, got her whole career started by playing short action girls :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 11:07:51 PM
lol

Hmm, Julie Benz could pull off, definetly, though. Not sure if she could still pass a high schooler, nowadays.

Yeah, SMG, got her whole career started by playing short action girls :P

Well, there is the magic of make-up and CGI. Especially given that Tessa is Mantis Girl... we're not gonna often see her in her human shape :-\

Well... technically, she got started on a soap opera -- Action Girl came later :) But yeah, anyway, my moniker doesn't just stand for Murphy!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on July 10, 2010, 12:14:51 AM
John Cusack.....I like him but he definitely could not pull off Harry. His humor is too dry.

Tim Blake Nelson for Butters. Good choice. But I now think Justin Long (http://www.b105.com/blog/media/justin-long1.jpg), since everyone said my idea of Steve Buscemi and Paul Reubens were both too old.

Benicio Del Toro as Don Paolo Ortega. Yes.

Ian McKellen as Arthur Langtry. I thought so too, but many people thought it was too cliche, because Gandolf.

Emily Deschanel as Karrin Murphy. That could work, I don't know her work that well though.

Antonio Banderas as Rashid/The Gatekeeper....eh, Rashid is suppose to be middle eastern so my pick is Oded Fehr (http://angelacameron.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/oded-fehr.jpg) even though he is only 40ish, but it's easy to make people look older.

the guy who played Dean Winchester (Jensen Ackles) for Harry DResden instead. He has smartass humor
I agree about waldo.Justin Long is perfect
i still say Ian
Oded Fehr is a better Rashid
and I am keeping to my guns with Emily if not charlize theron she might make a better Karen but probably a bit too tall
as far as Bob (who won't actually be seen on camera only in voice and computer image.)  I go with James Marsters as the voice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 10, 2010, 03:18:23 AM
Jensen Ackles is WAY too short. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 10, 2010, 02:07:20 PM
LOL. Jensen is only 6'1".

On the other hand, Jared Padalecki is 6'5", which is a lot closer. Earlier in this thread somewhere, it led me to suggest having Jared play Harry and Jensen play Thomas, especially since there are similar height and age differences between them :) (plus, it'd be kinda fun having Jim Beaver play
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, lol :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 10, 2010, 03:47:38 PM
LOL. Jensen is only 6'1".

On the other hand, Jared Padalecki is 6'5", which is a lot closer. Earlier in this thread somewhere, it led me to suggest having Jared play Harry and Jensen play Thomas, especially since there are similar height and age differences between them :) (plus, it'd be kinda fun having Jim Beaver play
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, lol :)

Oh really?

He always look short to me because he's standing by Jared, who is like a giant. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 10, 2010, 04:03:28 PM
Oh really?

He always look short to me because he's standing by Jared, who is like a giant. :P



http://www.jensenacklesfans.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=810&Itemid=236 (http://www.jensenacklesfans.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=810&Itemid=236)

This was in an interview he did in '07 :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 10, 2010, 04:08:25 PM
Toot-toot should be played by Robert Pattinson.
(http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/000989475/profiles_EFairy_4312_200020_xlarge.png)

:o >:( Words cannot...  I... >:(  Can I shoot you now?

I just thought of the  words to describe this idea.  HELL! NO!  Toot toot is WAY too cool for you to do that to him!



<-- Just a little bit outraged.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: telkesh on July 10, 2010, 07:51:51 PM
:o >:( Words cannot...  I... >:(  Can I shoot you now?

I just thought of the  words to describe this idea.  HELL! NO!  Toot toot is WAY too cool for you to do that to him!

Is your problem with the actor himself, or with the most recent character he's played? I think if he were given a chance to play sometihng with more depth thana  piece of string he might actually enjoy the roll. you've got to remember that even the actor dislikes the character he plays.
I think that is awesome. And toot-toot is much manlier than edward. I'd love to see twilight fangirls/moms cry for him ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 10, 2010, 10:21:42 PM
you've got to remember that even the actor dislikes the character he plays.
I think that is awesome. And toot-toot is much manlier than edward. I'd love to see twilight fangirls/moms cry for him ;D

He does?  KEWL!  Yes, my objection is DEFINITELY the character, as I haven't seen much of the actor (Besides HP and TL).



And in other news I heartily agree on Christian Kane for Kincaid and Mark Sheppard as Nic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 10, 2010, 10:53:55 PM
He does?  KEWL!  Yes, my objection is DEFINITELY the character, as I haven't seen much of the actor (Besides HP and TL).

Personally, I think your objection should be with the author, since she's the one that created the character in the first place. Blech. An embarrassment for all vampire and werewolf kind. Dracula, Spike, Oz and Billy would be rolling over in their graves. If they had them.

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And in other news I heartily agree on Christian Kane for Kincaid and Mark Sheppard as Nic.

Woohoo!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 10, 2010, 11:00:25 PM
Personally, I think your objection should be with the author, since she's the one that created the character in the first place. Blech. An embarrassment for all vampire and werewolf kind. Dracula, Spike, Oz and Billy would be rolling over in their graves. If they had them.


Don't forget Lawrence Talbot and Count Orlock.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 11, 2010, 12:27:14 AM
Don't forget Lawrence Talbot and Count Orlock.

Verrrrry true!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on July 12, 2010, 02:04:11 PM

antonio banderas - gatekeeper


No.  Why?  Because he's not Arab/Middle Eastern.  Yes, yes, I know he played one in "The 13th Warrior", but personally I think it's extremely tacky when American actors or International popular actors (in Antonio's case) to play roles to draw crowds.  Rashid is Middle Eastern and I think that casting the correct ethnicity -- there are plenty of very good Arab/Middle Eastern actors out there that can play The Gatekeeper. 

Oded Fehr is Israeli, but at least has the look I think of Rashid (he's pretty tall 6'2)
(http://im.in.com/media/blish/p/photos/2009/Apr/oded_fehr_99090423034512_515x343.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 02:59:40 PM
No.  Why?  Because he's not Arab/Middle Eastern.  Yes, yes, I know he played one in "The 13th Warrior", but personally I think it's extremely tacky when American actors or International popular actors (in Antonio's case) to play roles to draw crowds.  Rashid is Middle Eastern and I think that casting the correct ethnicity -- there are plenty of very good Arab/Middle Eastern actors out there that can play The Gatekeeper.  

Oded Fehr is Israeli, but at least has the look I think of Rashid (he's pretty tall 6'2)

Funny you should mention that because Antonio Banderas also played Armand the Vampire in Interview with the Vampire. And Armand is suppose to be a 15 year old Russian boy with blond curly hair.

Although I did seriously consider Antonio Banderas for Don Paolo Ortega, or possibly the Red King.

BTW I think I was the first to call Oded Fehr FTW. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 03:16:22 PM
No.  Why?  Because he's not Arab/Middle Eastern.  Yes, yes, I know he played one in "The 13th Warrior", but personally I think it's extremely tacky when American actors or International popular actors (in Antonio's case) to play roles to draw crowds.  Rashid is Middle Eastern and I think that casting the correct ethnicity -- there are plenty of very good Arab/Middle Eastern actors out there that can play The Gatekeeper. 

We are agreed. As probably the only Arab/Middle Eastern character in the books (*coughhintcoughJimcough*), and as an Arab/Middle Eastern girl myself, I refuse to accept any other actor in the role. This entire Racebending thing over the Last Airbender movie has really got me thinking, and it's pushed me to the point that I realize, hey -- you know, there's really not all that many Middle Eastern or Arabic actors in American movies, nor are they generally portrayed as such if there are, and that's really kind of annoying. If a person is listed as a certain ethnicity, then they should be portrayed by someone of the same ethnicity.

And as a person of the same ethnicity, I want Rashid played by a Middle Eastern actor. Dammit.  :P

Sorry to all Antonio Banderas fans.

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Oded Fehr is Israeli, but at least has the look I think of Rashid (he's pretty tall 6'2)
(http://im.in.com/media/blish/p/photos/2009/Apr/oded_fehr_99090423034512_515x343.jpg)


Shaun Toub was recently brought to my attention as an actor, and he's Iranian/Jewish. I have no idea how tall he is, and though I originally did want Oded Fehr in this role (he's Israeli, yes, but he was born in the country, and the country is generally considered to be a part of the Middle East since it's right freaking there), I kind of get the sense that Fehr may actually be too young for the role :-\ Is that possible? Does anyone else think that?

Shaun Toub is actually very good at playing the older, wizened character role. Unfortunately, he's the sort of person that is of that indeterminate age, mainly because he won't SAY how old he is. (Maybe I'm not searching it right.)

By the way, he's also one of those actors that have been all over the place, like Ray Wise and Mark Sheppard. I just looked at his IMDB resume (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0869467/) :) Anyway, he's my pick for Rashid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 03:21:23 PM
Funny you should mention that because Antonio Banderas also played Armand the Vampire in Interview with the Vampire. And Armand is suppose to be a 15 year old Russian boy with blond curly hair.

Although I did seriously consider Antonio Banderas for Don Paolo Ortega, or possibly the Red King.

BTW I think I was the first to call Oded Fehr FTW. :P

Actually, MoSeS_, I was, so haha :P :)

No, seriously, I was.

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The Gatekeeper-Ghassan Massoud
(I'm actually very curious about this man. I have never seen him act, but I'm already partially biased because he was born in my mother and father's hometown/country. Another choice would be Oded Fehr. He played Ardeth Bay in the Mummy movies, and Zankou on the 7th season of Charmed.)

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.msg811595/topicseen.html#msg811595
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 03:32:50 PM
Someone mentioned Elisabeth Rohm for Murphy. I think she definitely fits the attitude.

To me Kristen Bell sort of has the look I imagine for Murphy, cute cheerleader look, but Bell is only 29, and I think Murphy is in her mid to late 30's at the begining of the series.

Shaun Toub.....Awesome! This guy looks like the middle eastern version of cross between Jean Reno & Ben Kingsley. Ha! Just in that picture though.

I actually only remember him from Iron Man though. I haven't really seen much else with him.

I still kind of learn toward Oded though because I think the Gatekeeper should be taller and menacing, and I think Oded can pull off the menacing part better than Toub.

But that's just my opinion because Toub was such the nice guy in Iron Man.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 03:43:06 PM
Actually, MoSeS_, I was, so haha :P :)

No, seriously, I was.

Actually someone beat us both to that idea a long time ago.

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Oded Fehr as the Gatekeeper. He played aleader of the Medjai in the first two Mummy movies, and Olivera in the last two Resident Evil movies.

I also see you had Wes Studi as LTW also. I also came to that same conclusion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 04:01:48 PM
Someone mentioned Elisabeth Rohm for Murphy. I think she definitely fits the attitude.

I dunno who originally mentioned it, but apparently I took up the cause, because that's who is on my icon :) For me, it's either Elisabeth, or SMG, and if they choose Elisabeth, then Harry needs to either be wearing lifts, or 8 feet tall. :-\


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I still kind of learn toward Oded though because I think the Gatekeeper should be taller and menacing, and I think Oded can pull off the menacing part better than Toub.


(http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=avatarmovie.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Favatarmovie.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F10%2Fewiroh.jpg&sref=http%3A%2F%2Flastairbenderfilm.com%2Fcategory%2Fshaun-toub%2F)

This is from the set of The Last Airbender. It also might be more convincing if he weren't sitting in a make up chair and playing with his cell phone, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on July 12, 2010, 04:04:14 PM

This is from the set of The Last Airbender. It also might be more convincing if he weren't sitting in a make up chair and playing with his cell phone, lol.

LOL!  I love it!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 04:04:27 PM
:o >:( Words cannot...  I... >:(  Can I shoot you now?

I just thought of the  words to describe this idea.  HELL! NO!  Toot toot is WAY too cool for you to do that to him!

<-- Just a little bit outraged.

Your'e right though Toot-Toot is a way cooler character than Edward Cullen. I am a little bit outraged at myself now that I think about it.  >:(

I don't really have a problem with this actor, I just not a fan of Twilight......well sort of.

I don't really want to get off topic since this isn't the "Twilight thread" but I actually read all the books before the movies came out, and I have to say the story arc and characters aren't that bad, it's really just the dialogue that is targeted at emotional teenage girls.

Granted much of the character developement borrows from previous vampire novels like Anne Rice, unique dark gifts per vampire, etc. And we could have done without the whole sparkling thing, but again, teenage girls love glitter.

Anyhow it had potential had some good editor manned it up.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 04:07:05 PM
This is from the set of The Last Airbender. It also might be more convincing if he weren't sitting in a make up chair and playing with his cell phone, lol.

Ahhh!!! I see your point.

I haven't seen The Last Airbender yet, but I heard it was pretty awesome considering it is kind of targeted at kids.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 04:16:32 PM
Bob the Skull = Eddie Izzard

Wether or not they do a body.
(http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/passtheremote/izzard.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on July 12, 2010, 04:23:13 PM
Has Jim ever addressed the Bob must sound British issue? Is it an issue? Does he agree? If Bob takes on personality characteristics of his possessor, shouldn't he also sound like a teenage boy like Harry was when he grabbed him from the ashes? Ivy sounds pretty intense coming from a small child, couldn't Bob sound intelligent without the British accent?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 04:25:09 PM
Ahhh!!! I see your point.

I haven't seen The Last Airbender yet, but I heard it was pretty awesome considering it is kind of targeted at kids.

Just as long as you were not originally a fan of the cartoon... because if you were, you'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 04:28:12 PM
Has Jim ever addressed the Bob must sound British issue? Is it an issue? Does he agree? If Bob takes on personality characteristics of his possessor, shouldn't he also sound like a teenage boy like Harry was when he grabbed him from the ashes? Ivy sounds pretty intense coming from a small child, couldn't Bob sound intelligent without the British accent?

Good point. But not the reason I choose Eddie. I can see Eddie as the perverted romance novel reading type. And Eddie Izzard can sound American, he did in The Riches.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 04:32:35 PM
Sanya = Djimon Hounsou

btw it's rumored that Djimon Hounsou may play Kratos in a God of War movie.

and he is also going to be in Thulsa Doom movie, which is one of the characters from Conan the Barbarian.

granted Djimon Hounsou is not Russian, but does anyone know of an actually big time black russian actor?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on July 12, 2010, 04:33:11 PM
Good point. But not the reason I choose Eddie. I can see Eddie as the perverted romance novel reading type. And Eddie Izzard can sound American, he did in The Riches.

Not that I am saying "DEATH TO THE BRITS!!" I just don't get that accent when Bob says "They have boooooobs!" I hear teenage boy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 04:38:00 PM
Not that I am saying "DEATH TO THE BRITS!!" I just don't get that accent when Bob says "They have boooooobs!" I hear teenage boy.

I guess it all depends on different factors.

1) did you read the books?
2) or did you listen to the audiobooks?
3) did you watch the TV show?

I started off reading the books, then later I finished up with the audiobooks, now I am watching the TV show. So I think the way a person pictures a character is heavily influenced by which medium was used when they became familiar with a character.

But I have to admit, even though I watched the show last, I think Terrence Mann may have some influence on why I would choose Eddie Izzard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 12, 2010, 04:41:53 PM
Just as long as you were not originally a fan of the cartoon... because if you were, you'll be disappointed.

really? yipes. I have been looking forward to it. I'm not a fan-fan of the cartoon, but I liked it very much. I hope it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

I've only got two people on my list: Matt Bomer as Thomas, and Alexis Denisof/Michael Weatherly as Harry.

my murphy's (and the rest) still blank. *frown* why is it so hard to cast murph. *sigh*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 04:57:43 PM
Good point. But not the reason I choose Eddie. I can see Eddie as the perverted romance novel reading type. And Eddie Izzard can sound American, he did in The Riches.

I adore Eddie Izzard. He would definitely take Bob to a whole 'nother level, with a body or without :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 05:06:26 PM
really? yipes. I have been looking forward to it. I'm not a fan-fan of the cartoon, but I liked it very much. I hope it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

I'll admit, I'm in love with the cartoon (and yes, I am an adult, I'm 25, and no, that doesn't really matter. Or pertain to this topic, lol.) But I've watched every episode about a million times (yes, I'm exaggerating), and... well, once you see it, you can find all the approvals or complaints on this (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19303.0.html) thread. (The thread was launched the day before the movie's official release and is up to five pages right now.) If you were a hardcore fan of the cartoon, though, yeah, you'll be annoyed. They changed a lot of stuff.

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I've only got two people on my list: Matt Bomer as Thomas, and Alexis Denisof/Michael Weatherly as Harry.

Yes, and Yes!!

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my murphy's (and the rest) still blank. *frown* why is it so hard to cast murph. *sigh*

Because Murphy's one of those perfectly imperfect characters that readers adore, and because this thread is PERFECT CASTING :)

It just occurred to me that whoever plays Murphy may be required to ride her Harley. (It is a Harley, isn't it? Momentary brain fail). I personally think SMG may be more willing to do that than Elisabeth Rohm will be :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 05:14:18 PM
I'll admit, I'm in love with the cartoon (and yes, I am an adult, I'm 25, and no, that doesn't really matter. Or pertain to this topic, lol.)

I am 28 and I loved the Dragon Ball and DBZ cartoon (never got in DBGT), and I have to say that live action version blew big time. And it even had James Marsters as Piccolo.  :-X

Of course, DBZ came out in 1989 and aired in America in 1999. So I guess I wass like 7 when that show started.  :P

But I also liked Naruto, though I only watched a few here and there.

And I hear Bleach is amazing though I only had time to watch the first episode so far.

And I liked Inu Yasha.

I use to be big into anime but I haven't had time to keep up with it in like the past 10 years. Too much video gaming, reading books, catching up on TV shows and movies and asian movies. I have literally a terabyte of catching up to do.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 12, 2010, 06:12:42 PM
Sanya = Djimon Hounsou

btw it's rumored that Djimon Hounsou may play Kratos in a God of War movie.

Hollywood is REALLY losing it, aren't they?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 06:28:22 PM
Hollywood is REALLY losing it, aren't they?

It is a bit of a stretch considering Kratos is a Spartan, however since Kratos is cursed and covered with the ashes of his dead wife and daughter, it doesn't really matter what color the actor is.

Besides that Kratos speaks english and sounds like a wrestler in the video game which isn't accurate either considering English was not yet invented in Ancient Greece.

Same with movies like Troy, etc.

I liked that in 13th Warrior they worked into the whole english thing as being the percieved language but not actually what they were really speaking.
Fun fact- did you know 13th Warrior was a box office bomb.
I actually liked it a lot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box_office_bombs

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 12, 2010, 06:33:38 PM
I'm upset.  I liked 13th Warrior and Sahara, why are they so high up on the list?  That's just bad.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: uncanny on July 12, 2010, 06:37:12 PM
Erm.. am I the only one that thought Paul Blackthorne was a great Harry?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 12, 2010, 06:43:49 PM
Erm.. am I the only one that thought Paul Blackthorne was a great Harry?

Nope.  But we're talking the "Perfect" cast.  And while, good, Blackthorne wasn't Perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 06:54:23 PM
I'm upset.  I liked 13th Warrior and Sahara, why are they so high up on the list?  That's just bad.

Well it's total cost vs. theater gross I am not sure how they figure in DVD sales. I feel like that would have been one of those movies that a lot of people bought the dvd but probably didn't go to the theater to watch it.

I guess that doesn't make it any less of a BOMB by definition of box office bombs.

*as an after thought I actually like many of the movies on the list. Soldier is actually one of my favorite movies. The Last Castle was good IMO. Ok, so most of them probably deserve to be there. Catwoman...great ideal, poor execution and though Halle Berry is hot, she ain't no Michelle Pfeiffer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 07:10:10 PM
Nope.  But we're talking the "Perfect" cast.  And while, good, Blackthorne wasn't Perfect.

Also, IMO if the were to make a movie series, they should try to get as far away from the show as they can.

I am not saying because the show was bad, but because the storyline is completely different, so much so that even characters names were changed. Like Karrin Murphy was changed to Connie Murphy.

The movie series should be a fresh cast and as close to the books as possible.

However, it wouldn't hurt to cameo Blackthorne just as a tribute to fans of the show. Like maybe he could be one of the cops or something.

The way they cameo Lou Ferrigno in both the Hulk(2003) and Incredible Hulk(2008).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 12, 2010, 08:57:14 PM
To be fair, we need Terrence Mann in here somewhere.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 12, 2010, 10:44:32 PM
Erm.. am I the only one that thought Paul Blackthorne was a great Harry?

*raises hand* I'm in it with you, dude.

although, must admit, there are probably better harrys out there. but paul would always be the voice of harry in my head, unless a movie comes out. >.<

karrin's name was changed to connie because there's a real life cop named "karrin" or something close.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 12, 2010, 10:48:00 PM
Actually, the cop's name was Karyn Murphy, and since there's no written distinction on TV, well,
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 11:44:34 PM

karrin's name was changed to connie because there's a real life cop named "karrin" or something close.

Was she also a tiny hard-assed white woman that could kill a man with one look? Because that might explain why they cast a Latina in a white woman's role and a white woman in a Latina's role. (I have nothing against Valerie Cruz, in fact, I think she killed the role on the show [killed in this circumstance meaning she made it freaking awesome], but I still don't understand why they switched things around like that.
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BugEyedEarl on July 13, 2010, 08:35:44 AM
Sanya- Idris Elba
Michael- Karl Urban
Nicodemus- Robert Knepper
Morgan- Brendan Gleeson
Murphy- Kristen Bell
Bob- Frank Welker
Injun Joe- Wes Studi
Ebenezar- Sam Elliott
Butters- Patton Oswalt
Bianca- Rachel Nichols
The Merlin- Bill Nighy
Marcone- Andy Garcia
Shiro- Ryo Ishibashi
Kincaid- Adam Baldwin

EDIT: And I didn't even realize someone on page 1 suggested  urban as Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 13, 2010, 09:58:43 AM
I'm liking the suggestion of Kristen Bell as Murphy.

Maybe if she was a bit older, but other then that she's perfect and got the acting skills
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BugEyedEarl on July 13, 2010, 10:11:37 AM
I'm liking the suggestion of Kristen Bell as Murphy.

Maybe if she was a bit older, but other then that she's perfect and got the acting skills

Sometimes a young age can say a lot about the character the same way an older one can- it says she worked very hard to get where she is now, especially when you take into account politics and sexism in the force.

And I'm no age-ist, but Murphy being referred to as "cute" kind of made me think she was younger than her 30s. I just don't associate that word with people above a certain age.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: woody71 on July 13, 2010, 10:17:56 AM
It's been said several times already, so I'll just throw my vote into the pile and say that I believe that Butters should be played by Zack Gallaphinacas.  The more he ages, the more he becomes Butters to me.

OMG!  Brilliant...I'll never seen Butters as anyone else now!  Well played.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 01:53:10 PM
Sanya- Idris Elba
Michael- Karl Urban
Nicodemus- Robert Knepper
Morgan- Brendan Gleeson
Murphy- Kristen Bell
Bob- Frank Welker
Injun Joe- Wes Studi
Ebenezar- Sam Elliott
Butters- Patton Oswalt
Bianca- Rachel Nichols
The Merlin- Bill Nighy
Marcone- Andy Garcia
Shiro- Ryo Ishibashi
Kincaid- Adam Baldwin

EDIT: And I didn't even realize someone on page 1 suggested  urban as Michael.

Sanya- Idris Elba (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/idris_elba_blackprwire1.jpg). Yes but I would still say Djimon Hounsou (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/12980/713_tn2_djimon_hounsou_3.jpg) 1st because his role in Gladiator
Michael- Karl Urban (http://www.ageofthering.com/atthemovies/cast/eomer.jpg)(Eomer). eh, I think Sean Bean (http://www.eljinetepalido.es/wp-content/uploads/boromir.jpg)(Boromir) or Viggo Mortensen (http://rosemunu.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/viggo-mortensen.jpg)(Aragorn) are how I picture Michael
* ha, I just realized all 3 of them were in LOTR.
Nicodemus- Robert Knepper (http://www.giftsandfreeadvice.com/free_advice/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/tbag4.jpg). YES! He is good in Heroes. But for big budget I would say Gary Oldman (http://inthenameofmovies.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/gary-as-sirius.jpg).
Morgan- Brendan Gleeson (http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2005_Harry_Potter_and_the_Goblet_of_Fire/2005_harry_potter_and_the_goblet_of_fire_043.jpg). "Mad-Eye" Moody...not bad. I still think Stephen Lang (http://www.silverfeast.com/wp-content/uploads/stephen_lang.jpg) fits better.
Murphy- Kristen Bell (http://tvrecappersanonymous.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/kristen-bell-you-again.jpg). I am glad people agree with me on this.
Bob- Frank Welker....Megatron? which voice role did you have in mind.
Injun Joe- Wes Studi (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/eo/f/f3/Wes_Studi1.jpg). YES!!!!!!!! That was my choice too.
Ebenezar- Sam Elliott (http://media.canada.com/idl/otct/20070524/32868-11401.jpg)... I love Sam Elliot, but for me he would be 3rd to Tommy Lee Jones (http://www.nikohk.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/tommy-lee-jones-cannes-2005-nicolas-guerin.jpg) and Rip Torn (http://www.focofilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/rip-torn-1.jpg).
Butters- Patton Oswalt (http://www.broadwayworld.com/columnpic/Oswalt.jpg), good one, I didn't consider him. But I stand by my choice, Justin Long (http://www.b105.com/blog/media/justin-long1.jpg).
Bianca- Rachel Nichols (http://ramascreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Rachel_Nichols_001.jpg). Good choice. I don't have a better one, except I think Mila Kunis (http://www.unrealaddicts.com/forums/attachments/multimedia/3188d1223755947-hotties-mila_kunis_l1.jpg) might could pull it off.
The Merlin- Bill Nighy (http://www.sinepil.org/imaj/queennothing/underworldviktor.jpg). Perfert!! Nighy was my original choice for Nic but he is too old.
Marcone- Andy Garcia (http://www.librarising.com/astrology/celebs/images2/A/andygarcia.jpg).... :-\ I don't see Marcone as any kind of ethnic. I agree with Ray Wise (http://0.tqn.com/d/horror/1/0/P/m/-/-/Reaper_RayWise2.jpg) or Adrian Pasadar (http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/AdrianPasdar.jpg).
Shiro- Ryo Ishibashi (http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTc3NDMwNDg4NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwMTE0OTI3._V1._SX485_SY323_.jpg). Good one. Or the dad on Heroes maybe. George Takei (http://i.space.com/images/090203-george-takei-02.jpg)/Mr. Sulu.
Kincaid- Adam Baldwin (http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/jayne-cobb.jpg). Sorry but NO! It's Alexander Skarsgard (http://suckerforvampires.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/alexander-skarsgard-1.jpg).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 13, 2010, 02:06:31 PM
So I'm considering writing a "fan's script" of several DF casebooks, with tentative actors, producers, musical scorers, etc etc for each and posting them in the fanfiction section of the site.  Would anyone be against that, or like to collaborate? :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 13, 2010, 02:34:56 PM
So I'm considering writing a "fan's script" of several DF casebooks, with tentative actors, producers, musical scorers, etc etc for each and posting them in the fanfiction section of the site.  Would anyone be against that, or like to collaborate? :P

Dude, just tell me what you want and I'll help :)

Are you still gonna continue the After The Funeral fic? I need something to tide me over until Aftermath, and it was doing a real good job of that!

(The Dark And Stormy Knights Anthology is coming out next Tuesday!!!!!)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 02:53:39 PM
It's been said several times already, so I'll just throw my vote into the pile and say that I believe that Butters should be played by Zack Gallaphinacas.  The more he ages, the more he becomes Butters to me.

OMG!  Brilliant...I'll never seen Butters as anyone else now!  Well played.

I could not disagree more. I think people choose Zach Galifianakis because of the guy who played Butters in the TV show. Zach Galifianakis is Greek btw, I point this out because Butters is Jewish.

Anyways. My first two choices were a little too old but my 3rd choice is dead on.
Steve Buscemi, Paul Reubens, Justin Long
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_aoxXydvUqL4/TBD7heHb4HI/AAAAAAAAAVA/3Vs0kUeDu6A/s800/15deli600.jpg)(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_aoxXydvUqL4/TBD8czZLV_I/AAAAAAAAAVI/gQOMHKMbIFc/s800/paul-reubens_l.jpg)(http://photos.ifmagazine.com/graphics/features_movie/die_hard-_justin_long.jpg)

Description of Butters:
Quote
From Dead Beat:

"Screw up my life?" He stared a me for a second and then said, deadpan, "I'm a five-foot-three, thirty-seven-year-old, single, Jewish medical examiner who needs to pick up his lederhosen from the dry cleaners so that he can play in a one-man polka band at Oktoberfest tomorrow." He pushed up his glasses with his forefinger, folded his arms, and said, "Do your worst."

From White Night:

Butters was an odd little duck. He wasn’t much taller than Murphy, and she probably had more muscle than he did. His shock of black hair resembled nothing so much as an explosion in a steel wool factory. He was all knees and elbows, especially in the surgical greens he was wearing, his face was lean and angular, his nose beaky, and his eyes were bright behind the prescription glasses.

Don't get me wrong I love Zach Galifianakis, but he isn't scrawny at all. His face isn't lean or angular at all.
I also don't think Zack could pull off the cowardly screeching parts either.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 13, 2010, 03:00:39 PM

(http://photos.ifmagazine.com/graphics/features_movie/die_hard-_justin_long.jpg)

Description of Butters:
From Dead Beat:

"Screw up my life?" He stared a me for a second and then said, deadpan, "I'm a five-foot-three, thirty-seven-year-old, single, Jewish medical examiner who needs to pick up his lederhosen from the dry cleaners so that he can play in a one-man polka band at Oktoberfest tomorrow." He pushed up his glasses with his forefinger, folded his arms, and said, "Do your worst."

From White Night:

Butters was an odd little duck. He wasn’t much taller than Murphy, and she probably had more muscle than he did. His shock of black hair resembled nothing so much as an explosion in a steel wool factory. He was all knees and elbows, especially in the surgical greens he was wearing, his face was lean and angular, his nose beaky, and his eyes were bright behind the prescription glasses.


You won me over :) Unless there's someone much more suitable for the role that comes along, Justin Long has my vote for Butters!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 13, 2010, 03:05:33 PM
my butters would be Zach Galinifianakis, but man don't look like him (he's my mental image, tho).

I vote TJ Thyne!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 03:20:58 PM
my butters would be Zach Galinifianakis, but man don't look like him (he's my mental image, tho).

I vote TJ Thyne!
This is Waldo Butters in the TV show (on the right).
(http://doc-0g-0g-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ct0u59s39dq6sqe84udh7u3ehq37nmo6/dpe3hdimv6v9eeal7ginhpd4vq29o96v/1279022400000/05835411182615825942/05835411182615825942/0B8NfYpeXR_TAM2EyYWVmMDAtYTY5ZS00ZTU5LWI2MWUtNzg5ODVlNjA2MmNm?nonce=8jp2iec4oiv04&user=05835411182615825942&hash=6rke8lirlpuou89uurc16aksdgddmhlp)

This is Zach Galifianakis in Tru Calling.
(http://doc-0o-0g-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ct0u59s39dq6sqe84udh7u3ehq37nmo6/qrb1qtu3fejipbrie1rsvi2k4ak96i3c/1279022400000/05835411182615825942/05835411182615825942/0B8NfYpeXR_TANTcxMWNmNTEtZTBiYy00ODEyLWFmZTEtODZkODNjOWZlNjU2)

This is probably why people see Zach as Butters.

IMO Zach is way too funny, and not tweeky enough to be the Butters from the books.

I don't think TJ Thyne fits either. Too masculine. TJ Thyne to me is more of a......Michael type character probably, I mean because of his build, I don't know about the attitude though.
But people (or person) choose him for Butters too, because he plays a forensics guy on Bones.
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3400000/TJ-tj-thyne-3461816-516-768.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 13, 2010, 03:23:54 PM
I don't think TJ Thyne fits either. Too masculine.
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3400000/TJ-tj-thyne-3461816-516-768.jpg)

thin him up T.T I still vote TJ Thyne. :p
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 03:27:39 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 13, 2010, 03:29:29 PM
actually, my reason for thinking Zach for butters is because of Tru Calling. saw that dude with Tru in there and just thought immediately: BUTTERS!... so yeah

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 03:31:42 PM
I mean I can see the reasons why you would choose them, I just think Justin Long fits better than both of them.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 13, 2010, 03:52:43 PM
But people (or person) choose him for Butters too, because he plays a forensics guy on Bones.

yeah, actually, it's mostly that for me. I loved him in bones. he got the attitude down in bones, though, I thought.  :)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 13, 2010, 04:04:46 PM
But...

Don't you guys think that T.J. is a little too hot to portray Butters? I'm not saying Butters is ugly or anything, but based on how he talks about himself, he doesn't think he's any hot shit. And T.J.'s ridiculously good-looking, and knows it to boot. I don't know if I could buy T.J. talking himself down as Butters :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 13, 2010, 04:14:30 PM
Dude, just tell me what you want and I'll help :)

Are you still gonna continue the After The Funeral fic? I need something to tide me over until Aftermath, and it was doing a real good job of that!

Yeah, I'm going to continue Funeral (when not working on my novel) gradually between now and Ghost Story.  I'm excited to see the similarities between the two :)

As for the script, I'm thinking of doing things a bit 'out of order' - my ideal Dresden Files series would skip around in the order of the case files, to offer as comprehensive a look at the supernatural world as possible while highlighting the trials and tribulations of Harry and friends.  I'd probably skip over Storm Front, as, while a GREAT introductory novel, I don't think that it's got enough of a "hook" to it to succeed financially on a large scale.  I think that going straight into Fool Moon and working from there would be a better option, leaving the hints and jabs towards Storm Front as a sort of "Noodle Incident" to pique the viewer's interest for when it is eventually made (later in the series, as a prologue to the rest of the stories).

To that end, I aim to brush up on scriptwriting and the like in the near future before beginning work on a fan's version of it :) I've got some great ideas for a film version of "Fool Moon", and if anyone wants to discuss further outside of this Topic, feel free to drop me a PM.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 04:18:33 PM
But...

Don't you guys think that T.J. is a little too hot to portray Butters? I'm not saying Butters is ugly or anything, but based on how he talks about himself, he doesn't think he's any hot shit. And T.J.'s ridiculously good-looking, and knows it to boot. I don't know if I could buy T.J. talking himself down as Butters :-\

Bam!  :o

That's you hitting the nail on the head. That's what I was trying to say, ridiculously good looking for Butters.

I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. ~ Derek Zoolander

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 13, 2010, 04:28:20 PM
Bam!  :o

That's you hitting the nail on the head. That's what I was trying to say, ridiculously good looking for Butters.

I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. ~ Derek Zoolander



Hee! :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 13, 2010, 04:35:19 PM
Yeah, I'm going to continue Funeral (when not working on my novel) gradually between now and Ghost Story.  I'm excited to see the similarities between the two :)

As for the script, I'm thinking of doing things a bit 'out of order' - my ideal Dresden Files series would skip around in the order of the case files, to offer as comprehensive a look at the supernatural world as possible while highlighting the trials and tribulations of Harry and friends.  I'd probably skip over Storm Front, as, while a GREAT introductory novel, I don't think that it's got enough of a "hook" to it to succeed financially on a large scale.  I think that going straight into Fool Moon and working from there would be a better option, leaving the hints and jabs towards Storm Front as a sort of "Noodle Incident" to pique the viewer's interest for when it is eventually made (later in the series, as a prologue to the rest of the stories).

To that end, I aim to brush up on scriptwriting and the like in the near future before beginning work on a fan's version of it :) I've got some great ideas for a film version of "Fool Moon", and if anyone wants to discuss further outside of this Topic, feel free to drop me a PM.


I take it you mean that, during Fool Moon and the other case files, you would flash back to Storm Front the way Harry flashes back to the night DuMorne tried to kill him, and to what happened at Camp Kaboom with the twins? That might work, but I personally always liked Storm Front. It's not the first book of the series that I read (I did read them out of order -- Blood Rites was the first book I touched, and thus why it's my favorite), but I think flashing back to it in bits and pieces might actually work.

And also, yay for Funeral! .... which is very odd-sounding in retrospect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 13, 2010, 04:48:31 PM
I meant that more as the offhand references already in the later books ("That business last spring") would be supplemented with a little more nods in that direction, and such.  Nothing so overt as a flashback - doing such may detract from the story.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 05:54:09 PM
Mavra = Helena Bonham Carter
(http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/helena-bonham-carter.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 13, 2010, 05:55:07 PM
I concur.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 05:56:07 PM
Speaking of Helena Bonham Carter, did you know Tim Burton has been green lighted for a Wizard of Oz remake. Johnny Depp as the Scarecrow naturally.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 13, 2010, 05:59:02 PM
Urgh.  Depp is just annoying nowadays; he's stretching himself far too thin for my tastes.

Also - I did a short screenplay for how a theatrical trailer (2-3 minutes, I think) would play out, adapting Jim's short story, Vignette.  Here's a link:  I'd appreciate your comments on it! (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19655.msg868171.html#new)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 06:04:02 PM
Couple of interesting links regarding my last post.

Imagine Casting (http://imaginecasting.com/titles/results/2877/tim-burtons-the-wizard-of-oz/)
*found this site very interesting considering what this thread is all about.

Article on 3/8/10 (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/film/2010/03/08/hacking-imdb-a-sneak-peek-at-tim-burtons-forthcoming-wizard-of-oz/)

and I didn't know Tim Burton wrote the Pilot for Lost in Oz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_In_Oz).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 06:09:11 PM
Wizard of Oz cast according to article above.

Cast:

Winona Ryder … Dorothy Gale
Christopher Walken … Soothsayer/Wizard of Faux Poz
Johnny Depp … The Scarecrow
Ben Kingsley… The Lion
Hank Azaria … The Tin Man
Dame Judi Dench … Glinda
Helena Bonham Carter …The Wicked Witch
Andy Serkis … Toto
Steve Buscemi … Cattle Magnate
Deep Roy … Head of Lollipop Syndicate
Stephen Fry … Horse
Willem Defoe … Tree
Pete Postlethwaite … Wingèd Ape

very different than the poll here (http://imaginecasting.com/titles/results/2877/tim-burtons-the-wizard-of-oz/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 06:15:46 PM
http://imaginecasting.com/

I can't believe this site doesn't have Dresden Files. It has almost every Anne Rice book and King's Dark Tower, and even a FFVII cast. But no Dresden Files!?!

Some them are really old though. The Dark Tower one is from 2004. And I don't even want to vote with those people. They all think Peter Jackson should direct it.

*shudders

Peter Jackson is a fluke, he got lucky with LOTR, all other movies he helmed himself were not that great, and now Guillermo Del Toro is off the Hobbit movie and Peter Jackson is thinking of taking up the spot since he is already producing it. OMG! Hope he doesn't screw that up.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 13, 2010, 06:19:10 PM
Wizard of Oz cast according to article above.

Cast:

Winona Ryder … Dorothy Gale
Christopher Walken … Soothsayer/Wizard of Faux Poz
Johnny Depp … The Scarecrow
Ben Kingsley… The Lion
Hank Azaria … The Tin Man
Dame Judi Dench … Glinda
Helena Bonham Carter …The Wicked Witch
Andy Serkis … Toto
Steve Buscemi … Cattle Magnate
Deep Roy … Head of Lollipop Syndicate
Stephen Fry … Horse
Willem Defoe … Tree
Pete Postlethwaite … Wingèd Ape

very different than the poll here (http://imaginecasting.com/titles/results/2877/tim-burtons-the-wizard-of-oz/)

I could get beind Walken as OZ, but the rest...

HELL NO!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on July 13, 2010, 06:29:28 PM
Speaking of Helena Bonham Carter, did you know Tim Burton has been green lighted for a Wizard of Oz remake. Johnny Depp as the Scarecrow naturally.

Indeed...this might be Burton's cup of tea:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/film/2010/03/08/hacking-imdb-a-sneak-peek-at-tim-burtons-forthcoming-wizard-of-oz/ (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/film/2010/03/08/hacking-imdb-a-sneak-peek-at-tim-burtons-forthcoming-wizard-of-oz/)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 06:29:33 PM
I could get beind Walken as OZ, but the rest...

HELL NO!

That poll (http://imaginecasting.com/titles/results/2877/tim-burtons-the-wizard-of-oz/) actually had Anne Hathaway in the lead for Dorothy, but it would be kind of weird since Hathaway, Depp, and Carter were all in Alice in Wonderland.

and BTW, OZ isn't a person  :P

As far as getting behind Walken, I love Walken, but I think I'd rather be getting behind one of the women.  ;D

I could get behind Hathaway, ummmm!
(http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/anne-hathaway-header.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 13, 2010, 06:39:10 PM
That poll (http://imaginecasting.com/titles/results/2877/tim-burtons-the-wizard-of-oz/) actually had Anne Hathaway in the lead for Dorothy, but it would be kind of weird since Hathaway, Depp, and Carter were all in Alice in Wonderland.

and BTW, OZ isn't a person  :P

As far as getting behind Walken, I love Walken, but I think I'd rather be getting behind one of the women.  ;D

First, I don't care for either actress, so I don't care.

Second, "I am OZ, the Great and Terrible!"  I know he's the "Wizard of" Oz, but still.

Third, Bite Me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 06:48:54 PM
First, I don't care for either actress, so I don't care.

Second, "I am OZ, the Great and Terrible!"  I know he's the "Wizard of" Oz, but still.

Third, Bite Me.

Ha Ha!

You don't like those actresses? What!?! I thought Hathaway was pretty good in Alice in Wonderland. I actually think Hathaway or Ryder would be good choices granted they are about 10 years age difference.
(http://doc-0g-0g-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ct0u59s39dq6sqe84udh7u3ehq37nmo6/sm3i9n4c29l2enppqi6tjmoij90tt2cc/1279044000000/05835411182615825942/05835411182615825942/0B8NfYpeXR_TAOWU1Y2VhMzQtNzgxMy00NzBiLWJmYzQtOTZjM2UwZGQ1ZTRi)(http://www.ganeshaspeaks.com/blogImages/winona_ryder19.jpg)

It just dawned on me Winona and Depp were both in Edward Scissorhands. And Winona was in Beetlejuice too. And Depp and Carter are in almost every Tim Burton movie.

Did you want me to get behind you before I bite you. HAHAHA! I am just jerking your chain! Pun intended.

Seriously though, who would you cast as Dorothy?

I realize I am getting slightly off topic here, but just real quick, then back to Dresden Casting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 08:34:40 PM
Urgh.  Depp is just annoying nowadays; he's stretching himself far too thin for my tastes.

Also - I did a short screenplay for how a theatrical trailer (2-3 minutes, I think) would play out, adapting Jim's short story, Vignette.  Here's a link:  I'd appreciate your comments on it! (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19655.msg868171.html#new)

Ha! Speaking of Depp I mention him in my comments about your trailer pitch.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 13, 2010, 09:16:51 PM
Mavra = Helena Bonham Carter
(http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/helena-bonham-carter.jpg)

Agree with this fully.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 14, 2010, 02:43:51 AM
Mavra = Helena Bonham Carter
(http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/helena-bonham-carter.jpg)

Ohhhhhkaaaay, getting back on track now, especially as this is perfect casting for THE DRESDEN FILES, and not a Tim Burton movie that is apparently already cast...

I agree with this fully. Helena Bonham Carter is deliciously eerie and flat out scary as fuck when she wants to be. I could definitely see her as Mavra.

And if not Mavra? Queen Mab :) HBC is eerily beautiful, and she's about the right height for Mab (as per her description in Changes -- Mab's about as tiny as Murphy, maybe tinier!) And hell, we all know HBC is quirky enough!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on July 14, 2010, 03:04:16 AM
Mavra = Helena Bonham Carter
(http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/helena-bonham-carter.jpg)
Definitely. I love Helena Bonham Carter and it would be great to have her in Dresden Files movies. Mavra would certainly be the best for her, but she could probably do Mab pretty well too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 14, 2010, 04:12:20 AM
Definitely. I love Helena Bonham Carter and it would be great to have her in Dresden Files movies. Mavra would certainly be the best for her, but she could probably do Mab pretty well too.
I don't know. I can't imagine her as Mab. :-? She doesn't scream chilly to me. Scary as hell, maybe. I vote Mavra for her, yeah.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 14, 2010, 04:50:42 AM
She's perfect for Mavra. I don't see her as Mab, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 14, 2010, 05:23:54 AM
Howzabout we cast Eliza Dushku in a role and make this a real Whedonverse reunion movie? What do you say? Who says:

Elaine?
Maeve?
Queen Mab herself?
Lara?
Georgia?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 14, 2010, 01:31:51 PM
Howzabout we cast Eliza Dushku in a role and make this a real Whedonverse reunion movie? What do you say? Who says:

Elaine?
Maeve?
Queen Mab herself?
Lara?
Georgia?

I think Eliza could do Elaine. I wanted to cast her somewhere in here, along with maybe Charisma Carpenter.

Alyson Hannigan could probably do Andi.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 14, 2010, 02:31:15 PM
I think Eliza could do Elaine. I wanted to cast her somewhere in here, along with maybe Charisma Carpenter.

Alyson Hannigan could probably do Andi.

Hah, it'd probably be fun for Aly to play a werewolf since she spent so many years on BtVS dating one :)

And I'd love for Charisma to be a part of the cast! Maybe we can get her to be Lara?

And my very first thought for Eliza was for her to portray Elaine. Which is really funny to me, b/c I have Alexis Denisof playing Harry.

By the way, I'm still wibbling about my decision for Murphy, but I think I'm leaning hardcore toward SMG.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 14, 2010, 03:12:07 PM
Hah, it'd probably be fun for Aly to play a werewolf since she spent so many years on BtVS dating one :)

And I'd love for Charisma to be a part of the cast! Maybe we can get her to be Lara?

And my very first thought for Eliza was for her to portray Elaine. Which is really funny to me, b/c I have Alexis Denisof playing Harry.

By the way, I'm still wibbling about my decision for Murphy, but I think I'm leaning hardcore toward SMG.

Man, Allyson fits Andi's description perfectly. Even though, she has a very small part, it would be fun to see it.

maybeee, I don't really see Charisma as Lara, though, but I don't remember any other suggest for the role.

Eliza as Elaine is sort of perfect, IMO.

As for Murphy, I want to say SMG, but I'm thinking Kristen Bell, nao.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 14, 2010, 04:05:27 PM
I guess I am not a big Whedon fan. Not saying I have anything against it, I just never really got into any of his stuff. I watched maybe 30 of the 144 episodes of BtVS. I never watched Firefly, and I saw maybe one or two episodes of both Angel and Dollhouse. It's not that I didn't like them, just never got into them.

With that said. I would not like to see a Dresden Movie cast with the frequent Whedon actors. Not to mention that we are comparing a TV show cast to a Movie Cast. Granted most these actors have faired well on the silver screen, I would like to see a new mix of characters that can't really be associated with a group of unrelated characters.

I am glad that a couple people actually like my Kristen Bell pick for Murphy though even I admit she seems just slightly young. But I admit SMG would be a good choice too.

I don't see Charisma as Lara at all. I kind of have Famke Janssen (http://www.tsbmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/famke_janssen_3.jpg) pegged here. Or maybe Kate Beckinsale (http://www.joblo.com/images_arrownews/beckinsale1212.jpg) though that choice would obviously be heavily influenced by her role in Underworld.

I like Eliza Dushku, she isn't quite how I pictured Elaine, but it could work, IMO it depends on who plays Harry, and the chemistry between the two actors.

Alyson Hannigan (http://fxpaper.fatalsystem.com/images/wallpapers/celebs/alyson-hannigan/alyson_hannigan_9.jpg).....YES! I have always been a fan, American Pie though, not really because of BtVS. Something about her really strikes me, but Ally is married to Alexis Denisof, this really would turn into a Whedonverse reunion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 14, 2010, 04:42:08 PM
Heh, MoSeS_ you have to remember that JB is a Whedonhead, too. And ultimately, I make the suggestions, but bow down before his choices :) He wants Alexis Denisof to play Harry? Then Alexis is on my personal fan list. I just think it'd be comedic to have his wife and former costar, plus all his other former costars making cameos and the like :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 14, 2010, 04:52:26 PM
Heh, MoSeS_ you have to remember that JB is a Whedonhead, too. And ultimately, I make the suggestions, but bow down before his choices :) He wants Alexis Denisof to play Harry? Then Alexis is on my personal fan list. I just think it'd be comedic to have his wife and former costar, plus all his other former costars making cameos and the like :)

It would be comedic, that's what I would be afraid of.

I realize Dream Casting is just for the fun of it, hence my African-American Cast (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.msg852590.html#msg852590)(which is awsome BTW) and Asian Cast (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.msg855025.html#msg855025).

At the same time though I am thinking if they really released a movie in theaters with the Whedonverse cast, it would bomb. I am not saying that in a malicious way, but honestly Whedonverse and Dresdenverse are both cult followings, and that cast would not draw in the General Public which would make this a blockbuster bust rather than a hit, and it would probably end the movie franchise right there.

I kind of went into related detail about a potential movie trailer in the "fan film" trailer script thread (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19655.msg869220.html#msg869220) posted yesterday.

Point being it would be NEAT to see that cast, but also potentially fatal to a potential movie franchise.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 15, 2010, 02:44:44 PM
I get it. My mental image of murph is Mariska Hargitay. (http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/original/0000034394_20061020195252.jpg)

sort of. it comes from watching too much Law and Order SVU >.<
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CHAR2056 on July 15, 2010, 06:49:11 PM
This thought pop in my head and I need to purge it so I'm giving it to all of you.

For Dresden have James Caviezel, so when they do Dead Beat we have Jesus riding a dinosaur. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 15, 2010, 10:56:33 PM
This thought pop in my head and I need to purge it so I'm giving it to all of you.

For Dresden have James Caviezel, so when they do Dead Beat we have Jesus riding a dinosaur. :P

*dies*

Oh my God. LOL.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 16, 2010, 12:32:22 AM
This thought pop in my head and I need to purge it so I'm giving it to all of you.

For Dresden have James Caviezel, so when they do Dead Beat we have Jesus riding a dinosaur. :P

O.O

xD xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 16, 2010, 01:50:22 AM

Point being it would be NEAT to see that cast, but also potentially fatal to a potential movie franchise.

And all of this would be why half of the actors and actresses we have listed would never be chosen.

But still, there's nothing wrong with fantasy casting. A bunch of people have said they've wanted James Marsters to portray a role in the movie, whether it's as Harry, or Bob or someone else, and yet again, Marsters has a large role in the Whedonverse. Never mind the fact that Marsters as Harry is never going to happen (unless he willingly wears lifts to achieve the right height :-\ ), he has fans, and people want to associate his face and voice with a character they love that he portrays, even if he only portrays it in an audio book.

And there's nothing wrong with it being comedic, just so long as the comedy doesn't overtake the majority theme and urgency of the movie. So here's hoping M. Night Shyamalan is never tapped to direct it, because based on what he did with The Last Airbender, comedy isn't even a factor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 16, 2010, 02:21:24 AM
Well hey, at least we know it would be Alexis Denisof as Harry and Erica Cera as Susan.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 16, 2010, 02:32:12 AM
Well hey, at least we know it would be Alexis Denisof as Harry and Erica Cera as Susan.  :)

Very true :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 16, 2010, 01:09:44 PM
Well hey, at least we know it would be Alexis Denisof as Harry and Erica Cera as Susan.  :)

Erica Cera has recently broken into the silver screen with Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief, I don't know if that movie sucked or not, but nonetheless she has made the transition, so it gives her clout to play Susan in a movie adaptation.

Denisof....... ??? Don't get me wrong, I think he fits the part, but in reality, the general public would not go watch a movie "starring" Alexis Denisof, he isn't that established. Additionally Denisof is 44, if your going to go that old might as well cast Clive Owen or Hugh Jackman and draw in the crowd. On the other hand the younger Ryan Renolds and Chris Evans are also Hollywood, and would draw in the crowd too. Admittedly my choice would be Lee Pace. I would say here or Zachary Quinto but he isn't snarky enough.

Which is precisely why this is called "fantasy/dream casting" and not "reality casting"  :P

*and my two cents about who Butcher picks is this, what author has ever had control over who was cast for their book to movie adaptations? none, because they are authors not movie producers/directors. You think J.K. Rowling got to pick the cast for Harry Potter? How about J. R. R. Tolkien?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 16, 2010, 01:39:11 PM
Erica Cerra as Susan.  :)

eh? why her?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 16, 2010, 01:41:51 PM
eh? why her?

Well I was just agreeing that she could pull it off since that was Jim's choice.
*see above for my opinion on Jim's choices.

But she wouldn't have been my first choice. I would have went with like Roselyn Sanchez....maybe, she does action fairly well, alla Rush Hour 2.
(http://c.complex.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/roselyn-sanchez04210805.jpg)

I like Eva Longoria but she doesn't fit the role.
And no one better dare suggest Jennifer Lopez or Eva Mendes. *yak* I can't stand Eva Mendes, Ghost Rider was bad enough, but she was the icing on the cake. And why is she always shiny, is her skin really oily, that's gross.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 16, 2010, 01:43:06 PM
Well I was just agreeing that she could pull it off since that was Jim's choice. But she wouldn't have been my first choice.

ohhhhhh she's jim's choice... I didn't know, that's why I asked. :D

awwww, this time, I don't see it in my mind's eye. heh. xD but, hey, she's jim's choice, so. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on July 16, 2010, 03:41:59 PM
*and my two cents about who Butcher picks is this, what author has ever had control over who was cast for their book to movie adaptations? none, because they are authors not movie producers/directors. You think J.K. Rowling got to pick the cast for Harry Potter? How about J. R. R. Tolkien?
I remember watching a few interviews in which Jim talks about some things that he wishes he had more control over. He barely has any control over the book covers, odds are he won't have much imput for the casting of a movie (he certainly didn't for the tv show).
Also, part of the reason Tolkien had no input ont eh LOTR cast was that he's not exactly alive anymore, but even if he was, doubt he'd have had any say in the casting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 16, 2010, 03:48:14 PM
umm, anout the rowling thing, she sort of did, in fact, shes the reason snape is rickman, and most of the other cast was a,so her personal choice, she had final say on the scripts too, in fact, she helped write 1,2, and 3. i dont know about the new ones but yeah. oh and tolkien was dead so, thats given that he didnt pick the cast. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 16, 2010, 03:50:21 PM
I stand by Jim's choice of Denisof and Cerra though- both are capable actors and just because their names aren't well-known, doesn't mean you need to go cast a 'big' actor like Hugh Jackman who has already tried a film like this.

This is fantasy casting though.  :D

EDIT: Several writers do get to chose the actors they would like to associate with the film and they do have to usually approve of the script that is written. It is also up with them to colloborate with the director/producer if they want too, which often saves the movie from being crap.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 16, 2010, 05:55:19 PM
I stand by Jim's choice of Denisof and Cerra though- both are capable actors and just because their names aren't well-known, doesn't mean you need to go cast a 'big' actor like Hugh Jackman who has already tried a film like this.

This is fantasy casting though.  :D

EDIT: Several writers do get to chose the actors they would like to associate with the film and they do have to usually approve of the script that is written. It is also up with them to colloborate with the director/producer if they want too, which often saves the movie from being crap.

As these things go I am sure the film studio/directors/producers run it by the author, but once a studio has the rights they pretty much get to take it from there, running it by the author is probably just for some constructive feedback or a courtesy.

But I don't disagree with the studio doing the casting. They make movies, it's what they are good at. Authors write books, it's what they are good at. Sure the author might have some good casting ideas and the studio might follow through on it, but ultimately I don't think it's going to matter who the author wants to play the parts.

Also when you say WRITERS get to choose the actors, are we talking about authors whose book is being adapted into a movie, or are you talking script/screen writer? Many directors have "written" their own movies.

Anyhow, I hope a good studio gets the movie rights after Lions Gate, and hopefully they cast some big time actors and actresses, and it becomes as big as Harry Potter.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 16, 2010, 06:20:17 PM
I think what's more important than casting the characters........who should direct it?

Guillermo del Toro (Hellboy) :D
Christopher Nolan (Dark Knight, Prestige) ;D
James Cameron (Avatar) think about the special effects :)
Bryan Singer (Xmen, Superman, Battlestar Galactica 2011) 8)
Peter Jackson (LOTR) not a great director IMHO, got lucky w/LOTR :-X
Ridley Scott (Blade Runner, Gladiator) :-\
George Lucas (Star Wars) yeah, maybe 20 years ago :'(
Gore Verbinski (POTC 1,2,3) ::)
Sam Raimi (Army of Darkness, Spiderman) Drag me to Hell SUCKED BIG TIME! >:(
Michael Bay (Armageddon, Pearl Harbor, Transformers) lots of explosions :-[
Stephen Speilburg :-\
Wachowski Brothers (Matrix) :)
Robert Rodriguez (Sin City) ;D
Quinton Tarantino (Pulp Fiction) :D
Danny Boyle (28 Days Later, Slumdog Millionaire) ;)
M. Night Shyamalan (The Last Airbender) :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 16, 2010, 06:39:58 PM
Quote
Also when you say WRITERS get to choose the actors, are we talking about authors whose book is being adapted into a movie, or are you talking script/screen writer? Many directors have "written" their own movies.

That's what I'm talking about. If a director wants to make the movie faithful to the fans, he can if he thinks he needs the input, call in the author of the book and ask them for advice. They don't have to follow it all or even call up the author in the first place, but a lot of directors do want things to be faithful to the books.

As for the directors you mention... Robert Rodriguez or the Wachowski bros.  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 16, 2010, 08:00:37 PM
I love Rodriguez, but don't you think it would be too gritty? Planet Terror, Sin City, Desperado, Machete.
and other Trouble Maker Studios films like Predators (2010) which I thought was pretty great BTW, kind of goes back to the roots and getting away from the AVP movies of late.

And Wachowski bros (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wachowski_brothers#Filmography). IDK, they might have been a one hit wonder. (Matrix 2 and 3 weren't really that great)
And I guess we can't call them bros. anymore since Larry is now Lana.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 16, 2010, 08:25:33 PM
I love Rodriguez, but don't you think it would be too gritty? Planet Terror, Sin City, Desperado, Machete.
and other Trouble Maker Studios films like Predators (2010) which I thought was pretty great BTW, kind of goes back to the roots and getting away from the AVP movies of late.

And Wachowski bros (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wachowski_brothers#Filmography). IDK, they might have been a one hit wonder. (Matrix 2 and 3 weren't really that great)
And I guess we can't call them bros. anymore since Larry is now Lana.

Yeah, Dresden isn't really gritty, but I think Rodriguez could make the magic happen. He could also capture the Noir-style I think better, then any other director I can think of.

Well, they did do V for Vendetta which was really good.


and lol you're right.  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 16, 2010, 08:37:10 PM
Yeah, Dresden isn't really gritty, but I think Rodriguez could make the magic happen. He could also capture the Noir-style I think better, then any other director I can think of.

Well, they did do V for Vendetta which was really good.
 
and lol you're right.  :P

I want to agree with Rodriguez because I love his work, but I kind of think maybe Del Toro because of Pans Labyrinth and Hellboy, they both had good costumes/character design and cinematography.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 16, 2010, 09:15:38 PM
tarintino writes scenes, Nolon does cinematography, and del toro does the sets of the nevernever
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 16, 2010, 09:57:46 PM
It would be awesome to have del toro do designs for all the supernatural beings.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 16, 2010, 11:06:05 PM

M. Night Shyamalan (The Last Airbender) :P

No. No. No. No. NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!

In short -- No.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 16, 2010, 11:09:33 PM
No. No. No. No. NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!

In short -- No.
An amazing director, but no, and i am not interested to see that film, and if he did dresden i would be dispointed
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 16, 2010, 11:30:02 PM
I'm sorry, but Shymalan an amazing director? Sixth Sense, and Unbreakable were his only really, good films. Signs was okay. The Village and Lady in the Water were bad. Then came the Happening, and he lost the little credibility he had. Airbender has pretty much condemned his film career if you ask me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 16, 2010, 11:54:15 PM
I've never understood the hoopla over M. Night Shamalamadingdong's films. They're... meh. Freaky weird for the sake of being freaky weird. Put the freaky weird in service of the story and I'll dig it, but... eurgh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 17, 2010, 12:34:20 AM
(http://marzdailymedia.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/brownclancy.jpg)
This is old news, but man, I like Jim's choice of Clancy Brown to play Morgan. He's like 6'3, and has the voice for the role and everything.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 17, 2010, 01:23:30 AM
You have to ad,it that the plot of lady in the water was pretty good, and it was an alright movie, the villiage was a  decent movie, it actuslly scared me. as for the happening, that i enjoyed (im an enviormentlist...so yeah. and my drunk friend peeing his pants made it awesome) it wasnt the best written, but i enjoyed it. it was a good lots watch things die. the probablem with M. night is, he cannot advertize for crap. he dressed up lady in the water as a horror, and he built up the happening way to much. although del toro, lynch, nolan, and cameron are waaaay better. although cameron while awesome, also cannot write all that well. luc besson is also amazing
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 17, 2010, 01:40:25 AM
You have to ad,it that the plot of lady in the water was pretty good, and it was an alright movie, the villiage was a  decent movie, it actuslly scared me. as for the happening, that i enjoyed (im an enviormentlist...so yeah. and my drunk friend peeing his pants made it awesome) it wasnt the best written, but i enjoyed it. it was a good lots watch things die. the probablem with M. night is, he cannot advertize for crap. he dressed up lady in the water as a horror, and he built up the happening way to much. although del toro, lynch, nolan, and cameron are waaaay better. although cameron while awesome, also cannot write all that well. luc besson is also amazing

I want bash what you're saying simply because I respect your opinion. I just don't really like M. Night's movies (despite the fact that I always watch them). I didn't go see Airbender though, mainly because it got negative reviews like most of his recent films and I heard it sucked from a friend.

I've also been trying to find an actor who could play Martin. Then it hit me. Who is the most bland, unemotional man in hollywood?
(http://www.bostonpaternity.com/blog/themes/dna/images/keanu_reeves_paternity_suit.jpg)
Keanu Reeves of course.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 17, 2010, 02:06:49 AM
You know, Reeves does have the face that I've always pictured for Martin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 17, 2010, 02:16:23 AM
You know, Reeves does have the face that I've always pictured for Martin.
I was sort of joking around when I first thought of him as Martin, but then thought of Reeves. The role would be a piece of cake for him. He acts bland in the movies where he is supposed to be exciting.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 17, 2010, 02:28:28 AM
I want bash what you're saying simply because I respect your opinion. I just don't really like M. Night's movies (despite the fact that I always watch them). I didn't go see Airbender though, mainly because it got negative reviews like most of his recent films and I heard it sucked from a friend.

I've also been trying to find an actor who could play Martin. Then it hit me. Who is the most bland, unemotional man in hollywood?
(http://www.bostonpaternity.com/blog/themes/dna/images/keanu_reeves_paternity_suit.jpg)
Keanu Reeves of course.

Oh. Dear. God.

And I saw Airbender. And it made me weep on the inside. The cartoon, and all of the original characters in the cartoon are crying havoc. I liked The Sixth Sense when it came out, though that was only because Bruce Willis amuses me, and I like watching him. But I don't think I've watching a single M. Night movie except for Signs since then. They just all looked so stupid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 17, 2010, 02:32:49 AM
(http://marzdailymedia.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/brownclancy.jpg)
This is old news, but man, I like Jim's choice of Clancy Brown to play Morgan. He's like 6'3, and has the voice for the role and everything.

Dude, I can swing with this. Just make him grow his hair out, and get him some Just For Men Touch Of Grey for when he does :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 17, 2010, 02:37:18 AM
An amazing director, but no, and i am not interested to see that film, and if he did dresden i would be dispointed

If ANY one thinks to tap him to do Dresden, lo will I cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war on Hollywood. I WILL HURT SOMEONE. No one, least of all some dumbass Hollywood exec and a filmmaker that apparently doesn't know what he's really doing, is going to ruin my favorite book series, dammit!

*reins in the rage and breathes*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 17, 2010, 03:01:31 AM
Unbreakable was Shymalan's best movie IMO, besides Sixth Sense. It's seriously underrated...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 17, 2010, 03:09:39 AM
I want bash what you're saying simply because I respect your opinion. I just don't really like M. Night's movies (despite the fact that I always watch them). I didn't go see Airbender though, mainly because it got negative reviews like most of his recent films and I heard it sucked from a friend.

I've also been trying to find an actor who could play Martin. Then it hit me. Who is the most bland, unemotional man in hollywood?
(http://www.bostonpaternity.com/blog/themes/dna/images/keanu_reeves_paternity_suit.jpg)
Keanu Reeves of course.
i can totaly see this
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on July 17, 2010, 03:27:07 AM
Dude, I can swing with this. Just make him grow his hair out, and get him some Just For Men Touch Of Grey for when he does :D
Nah, Morgan is suppose to be old enough that he has a few grey hairs. Though longer hair would be good.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 17, 2010, 04:42:47 AM
i can totaly see this

Seriously, his eyes always freaked me out. They're, like.... dead. Like Clay Aiken's eyes. It's creepy. *shudders*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 17, 2010, 04:47:11 AM
Nah, Morgan is suppose to be old enough that he has a few grey hairs. Though longer hair would be good.

That's why I said Just for Men: Touch Of Grey. It lets men who are going grey actually keep a majority of the gray color while giving them back some of their natural color :) Morgan was, what? 145 or so? That translates to somewhere around 50 to 60 years of age in normal Vanilla Mortal years? Yeah, he'd be right at the point of going grey, but with still enough color in his hair to make it obvious that he's not THAT over the hill :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 17, 2010, 12:39:27 PM
(http://marzdailymedia.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/brownclancy.jpg)
This is old news, but man, I like Jim's choice of Clancy Brown to play Morgan. He's like 6'3, and has the voice for the role and everything.

I keep imagining morgan to be a little more... stern looking.

YES, Keanu Reeves would be creepily perfect for martin. Who scares me, btw. both of them do.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 17, 2010, 12:45:26 PM
I keep imagining morgan to be a little more... stern looking.


You ever see the first Highlander movie? The Kurgan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 17, 2010, 12:50:46 PM
You ever see the first Highlander movie? The Kurgan?

nope!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 17, 2010, 01:38:04 PM
Aw, yes.

I can see it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 17, 2010, 01:58:59 PM
I keep imagining morgan to be a little more... stern looking.

YES, Keanu Reeves would be creepily perfect for martin. Who scares me, btw. both of them do.

Dude, just look at his eyes and imagine him without the slight smile on his face. He's freaking perfect. And scary.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 17, 2010, 03:19:10 PM
(http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/photosizer/upload/brown050109.jpg)

...I See it now.

yes, yes he would be perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on July 17, 2010, 03:46:54 PM
Several writers do get to chose the actors they would like to associate with the film and they do have to usually approve of the script that is written. It is also up with them to colloborate with the director/producer if they want too, which often saves the movie from being crap.

What it really comes down to, I think, is how much fan based pull has the author got in the marketplace and how big the author's negotiating lawyers cajones are.

Bottom line, if creative control is that important to the author, they will say NO to signing away their rights to consult on choosing the actors. They may not get the final say, but they CAN retain the right to fight for the authenticity of their conceptualization. (big words for pick they guy they imagined playing the role when they wrote it, I know...  ::))
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 17, 2010, 03:50:18 PM
What it really comes down to, I think, is how much fan based pull has the author got in the marketplace and how big the author's negotiating lawyers cajones are.

Bottom line, if creative control is that important to the author, they will say NO to signing away their rights to consult on choosing the actors. They may not get the final say, but they CAN retain the right to fight for the authenticity of their conceptualization. (big words for pick they guy they imagined playing the role when they wrote it, I know...  ::))

wouldn't it be lucky if the producer/director is a huge fan of the books, is a good friend of the author and is willing to give leeway for the author's requests when it comes to the actors and the production and the like?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jadis402010 on July 18, 2010, 06:50:53 PM
I think I'm going to have to change my vote for Harry from Clive Owen to Alexis Denisof...didn't recognize the name until I saw his picture...I can completely see Wesley from BtVS and Angel, especially season 5 Angel, as Harry. One question though, I'm not sure it's ever explicitly stated in the books, but how old is Harry, especially in Storm Front? In my mind I'm thinking maybe early to mid-30's? So, you may need someone younger.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 18, 2010, 07:21:34 PM
Keanu used to amuse me, i mean he wasnt ever a good actor but after the whole "I am the one" scene, i could never trinity serious again...ever.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 18, 2010, 08:38:03 PM
I think I'm going to have to change my vote for Harry from Clive Owen to Alexis Denisof...didn't recognize the name until I saw his picture...I can completely see Wesley from BtVS and Angel, especially season 5 Angel, as Harry. One question though, I'm not sure it's ever explicitly stated in the books, but how old is Harry, especially in Storm Front? In my mind I'm thinking maybe early to mid-30's? So, you may need someone younger.

At the beginning of Storm Front, Jim says that Harry is in his mid-20s, so anywhere between the back end of the 24 to 27 spectrum. Jim also says that Harry is a year younger than him [Jim, that is] in Changes. Jim's birthyear is 1971 which makes him 39, so Harry's 38 :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 18, 2010, 08:39:52 PM
I saw Inception, today.

I was a little skeptical of Ellen Page playing Molly, but now I think she pull it off. There are a lot of problems with that though. She doesn't fit the description of Molly, albeit better then Fanning, and would be too old to grow with the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 19, 2010, 02:09:10 AM
I saw Inception, today.

I was a little skeptical of Ellen Page playing Molly, but now I think she pull it off. There are a lot of problems with that though. She doesn't fit the description of Molly, albeit better then Fanning, and would be too old to grow with the role.

Which is why I now point you dead right at my new choice(s) for Molly:

Molly Carpenter -- Sammi Hanratty (http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/v/6/v6fi256yd7uffuy.jpg) (younger Molly)/ Deborah Ann Woll (http://www.poptower.com/images/db/10130/450/450/deborah-ann-woll.jpg) (Molly circa PG to Changes)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 19, 2010, 02:19:44 AM
Which is why I now point you dead right at my new choice(s) for Molly:

Molly Carpenter -- Sammi Hanratty (http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/v/6/v6fi256yd7uffuy.jpg) (younger Molly)/ Deborah Ann Woll (http://www.poptower.com/images/db/10130/450/450/deborah-ann-woll.jpg) (Molly circa PG to Changes)

I like Deborah as Molly, but I haven't seen Sammi Hanratty do much actually. Well I've usually see her in a cameo or on one episode of a Disney show, but has she done anything, serious?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 19, 2010, 02:29:32 AM
At the beginning of Storm Front, Jim says that Harry is in his mid-20s, so anywhere between the back end of the 24 to 27 spectrum. Jim also says that Harry is a year younger than him [Jim, that is] in Changes. Jim's birthyear is 1971 which makes him 39, so Harry's 38 :)

Alexis can probably pull that age off, easy. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 19, 2010, 02:34:36 AM
Alexis can probably pull that age off, easy. :D

It suprises me to no end that Alexis Denisof is in his forties. 33
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 19, 2010, 04:10:18 AM
It suprises me to no end that Alexis Denisof is in his forties. 33
wait, do you mean 43 or 33?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 19, 2010, 04:29:00 AM
wait, do you mean 43 or 33?

43    .  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 19, 2010, 04:40:38 AM
Oh okay, thanks for clearing that up  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 01:34:00 PM
MUWAHAHA! I love that I got a rise out of everyone by suggesting M Night. I knew that with the recent opinions on Last Airbender that his name was bound to stir something up. HAHAHA!


...I like Jim's choice of Clancy Brown to play Morgan.
Yes, I still think Stephen Lang might fit this role a little better, but Clancy Brown was fanatic (and fantastic) in Highlander, and he was a pretty good Sgt in Starship Troopers (one of my favorite movies despite what others think)

Luc Besson is also amazing
Yes, Luc is one of my favorites, I thought about him when making the list, but I couldn't seriously see him doing DF, he has such a different feel to his movies, for example, Fifth Element, Unleashed, District B-13, The Professional.....I don't know, maybe he could....

I saw Inception, today.
I was a little skeptical of Ellen Page playing Molly, but now I think she pull it off. There are a lot of problems with that though. She doesn't fit the description of Molly, albeit better then Fanning, and would be too old to grow with the role.
I still vote a big fat NO to Ellen Page, but that's just me, I don't care to see her (or her fivehead (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Ellen_Page_at_TIFF_2009_cropped.jpg)) in anything.
And why we still hatin' on Fanning. I think everyone will be agreeing with me in a year or two.

Which is why I now point you dead right at my new choice(s) for Molly:
Molly Carpenter -- Sammi Hanratty (http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/v/6/v6fi256yd7uffuy.jpg) (younger Molly)/ Deborah Ann Woll (http://www.poptower.com/images/db/10130/450/450/deborah-ann-woll.jpg) (Molly circa PG to Changes)
Deborah Ann Woll would be great, but they would have to hurry up and get to like Proven Guilty or somewhere around there so they could transition to Woll. IMO it might be a little too late for Woll to play Molly considering 12 books so far, so Woll would be like 28+ when Molly hits like 17. However she could also be a great Lea.

At the beginning of Storm Front, Jim says that Harry is in his mid-20s, so anywhere between the back end of the 24 to 27 spectrum. Jim also says that Harry is a year younger than him [Jim, that is] in Changes. Jim's birthyear is 1971 which makes him 39, so Harry's 38 :)
This is kind of why I disagree with Alexis Denisof (44). Yeah sure he fits Harry perfectly at the current part in the series, but Denisoff playing 24-27 year old.......I don't know, that's really stretching. IMHO I think the actors age should be a little more authentic, and should at least come close to the character. I think a good rule of thumb would be no more than 10 years older than the characters age (at whatever point in the story).

Of course I try to be realistic in my fake casting.  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 19, 2010, 03:51:54 PM
See, what every one forgets is, the burger king scene, it felt like a tarrintino film. i misspelled his name huh?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 19, 2010, 04:10:52 PM
I like Deborah as Molly, but I haven't seen Sammi Hanratty do much actually. Well I've usually see her in a cameo or on one episode of a Disney show, but has she done anything, serious?

Well, her filmography  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammi_Hanratty#Filmography)on Wikipedia says she's been in a few movies (PoTC: Dead Man's Chest), and that she's been on Charmed, CSI, Cold Case and House :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 19, 2010, 04:12:26 PM
Alexis can probably pull that age off, easy. :D

Agreed!! He doesn't even look like he's in his forties, honestly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 19, 2010, 04:52:45 PM
Well, her filmography  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammi_Hanratty#Filmography)on Wikipedia says she's been in a few movies (PoTC: Dead Man's Chest)

whut? who was she in there? I know that movie a lot - I was a fan. O.o who was she in there?

ah... extra. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 05:03:28 PM
Harry and Thomas
(http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/justin_timberlake.jpg)(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20081009/293.pattinson.rob.100908.jpg)
They could totally be brothers.  8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 19, 2010, 05:04:37 PM
Harry and Thomas
(http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/justin_timberlake.jpg)(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20081009/293.pattinson.rob.100908.jpg)
They could totally be brothers.


actually, this would be an interesting casting.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 05:08:12 PM
actually, this would be an interesting casting.

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Totally serious
(http://g1wallz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/why-so-serious1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 19, 2010, 05:09:59 PM
Totally serious.

Actually yes, yes I am.

maybe it's because it's one in the morning and I'm still not sleeping that screwing with my brain, but I would go watch it if this was the cast.

Although I'd hope that RPattz play less constipated looks on his face and more actual emotion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 05:12:02 PM
...maybe it's because it's one in the morning and I'm still not sleeping that screwing with my brain...

Wow! that's exactly 12 hours opposite the time here.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 19, 2010, 05:13:57 PM
Wow! that's exactly 12 hours opposite the time here.

mrm, I figured. :p I know the timezones in US, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 05:57:30 PM
But there is more than one time zone in US (http://www.yokomoji.com/en/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/us-time-zone-map.gif).

There are 6 if you count Alaska and Hawaii.  :P

Which one am I in? without looking at my profile.  :-\
If I were in California i would only be 9 hours difference instead of 12. Hawaii would only be 6 hours difference. My mom is from Mindinao.

Go Pac-Man!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 19, 2010, 06:33:45 PM
actually, this would be an interesting casting.

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Don't be cruel to the fans, Jaeh :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 06:42:09 PM
Don't be cruel to the fans, Jaeh :)

Which fans are we talking about, Dresden fans?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on July 19, 2010, 07:10:03 PM
Harry and Thomas
(http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/justin_timberlake.jpg)(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20081009/293.pattinson.rob.100908.jpg)
They could totally be brothers.  8)

You're starting to scare me... *shivers*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 19, 2010, 07:52:24 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 19, 2010, 08:00:01 PM
Which fans are we talking about, Dresden fans?

Maybe I should rephrase -- don't be cruel to mankind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on July 19, 2010, 08:32:08 PM
Maybe I should rephrase -- don't be cruel to mankind.
There are plenty of women (and Gay or Bi men) who would love such a casting.
That and since Harry can not go a book without getting beaten to hell, everyone who hates JT would get a nice spectacle.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 19, 2010, 08:34:23 PM
There are plenty of women (and Gay or Bi men) who would love such a casting.
That and since Harry can not go a book without getting beaten to hell, everyone who hates JT would get a nice spectacle.

Hah! ;D

Still, though. I would never do that to Thomas and Harry. I love those characters too much.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 19, 2010, 08:34:39 PM
There are plenty of women (and Gay or Bi men) who would love such a casting.
 

Not any who appreciate good acting ability. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2