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Title: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on December 30, 2009, 09:09:18 PM
A woeful revelation to anyone who wants to make little baby Blackthornes...

ROFL that is wrong :P
But yes... I see him as Harry in my mind. It's been burned there for the meanwhile. If I close my eyes I see him as Harry like you see an afterimage after a flash on a camera. :P



Edit:  The first half of this thread can be found here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,817.0.html)! --Priscellie
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on January 01, 2010, 11:09:30 AM
It's been said several times already, so I'll just throw my vote into the pile and say that I believe that Butters should be played by Zack Gallaphinacas.  The more he ages, the more he becomes Butters to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 01, 2010, 01:28:10 PM
I have always pictured Butters as a Gene Kelly sort...
(http://static.paulsmith.co.uk/images/width730/genekelly-14247.jpg)
Not so much helmet haired, of course.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 02, 2010, 11:48:13 PM
everyone has their own opinion, please dont eat me  :o
Quote
Well almost, while I have my opinion I look forward to any opposition that can give me solid reasoning for it. As far as the thread's name sake, we will just have to agree to disagree on anyone that does not at least get the essence and most physical aspects of the book version right. The actor for Harry doesn't have to be 6'9 (camera angles and editing can make that happen anyway.) but, Morgan is Norse-like...


.

I really dont think Paul Blackthorne could fit the role, it just doesnt click in my head. they dont have to be 6'9", but at least 6'1" or 6'2" i would think. ive thrown some out there, i still think that Josh Hartnett, or Jared Padaleki , or Sam Worthington would be a good Harry. And yea, thats exactly what i thought of him as in my head. norse. definitely norse.





eh.....is not workin, sorry its all in a quote box O.o



Edit:  Fixed!  --Priscilla
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 03, 2010, 02:22:31 AM
up till today I really didn't see Nathan F as Harry but now I can almost see him doing it.
He does fit the snark factor. :D And he has the look and attitude.

Helps I was rewatching that fake Dr Horrible Emmy broadcast again. He was just so funny in it and I really didn't like him much before but he's growing on me.  ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on January 03, 2010, 05:26:12 AM
how about Vin Diesel (with hair) as Kincaid
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 06, 2010, 01:00:37 AM
you know, i almost think that could work.....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: FlaggerX on January 09, 2010, 01:33:34 AM
Okay, I cast the movie and assuming I could get these people for an affordable price

Harry-  that's toughest really, because you need a really strong actor who's tall and rangy,  a younger Peter  Coyote mabye   but I'd choose Eric Bana or maybe Christian Bale

Murphy-  she'd be a little voluptuous but I really like Christina Ricci in that role, short, and does badassed very well with a bit of sweetness. 

Thomas-- Brad Pitt.  No contest here.
Morgan-- Alan Rickman    You need menace.  the problem is that before Turn Coat Morgan has few dimensions.
Lara Raith-- Nicole Kidman
Susan-- Rosario Dawson
Bob -- (voiced by John Goodman)
Butters-- Steve Buscemi or a young Wallace Shawn. Okay he's too old but what about Paul Reubens, who might be gettable.
Michael--  he's particularly tough because the actor must pull off Dudley Do-right without going over the top. He needs to  be underplayed.  Steve McQueen would have been perfect but he's too dead for the role.  okay, I'll go for Russell Crowe, who's versatile enough.  Or Gary Oldman.

Nicodemus -- Christoph Waltz--- have you seen inglorious basterds?   
Duke Ortega--  Benecio del Toro
Kincaid --  George Clooney
Queen Mab-- Lena Olin
Aurora-- Scarlett Johansson
Maeve-- Thora Birch (Christina Ricci being taken)
Madrigal Raith -- John Cusack
That's enough for now.




Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 09, 2010, 01:34:57 AM
I saw this guy on Chuck and thought "OMG, it's Thomas" :D

http://www.ohlalaparis.com/photos/uncategorized/matthewbomer02120601.jpg

He sort of has alot of crazy eye looks in some of the pics so I thought "well that could work if he does Thomas hungry" ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on January 09, 2010, 02:17:17 AM
Tommy Lee Jones as Eb. (has that been said already?)
Paterson Joseph as Sanya. I don't know how his Russian accent is, but he's a Shakespearean actor, and he also did the narration on National Geographic Wild Russia.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mabb on January 09, 2010, 04:53:03 AM
Sorry, I have to vote against Jared Padaleki.  He played Thomas Kinkaid (the "Painter of Light") in a Hall-mark style movie over Christmas.  Kind of ruined him as a tough guy--or even tough-ish guy for me.  I'll never be able to imagine him without a paintbrush in his hand ever again....Try to see him with a wand---and have the wand morph into a brush...nope...just does not work for me....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on January 11, 2010, 09:43:39 PM
Someone suggested Christopher Waltz as Nicodemus. I agree with this.

I also re watched the LOTR trilogy over the holidays and I am now of the opinion that Karl Urban needs to play Michael... thoughts on this, anyone?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 13, 2010, 02:31:16 AM
hmmm, that could work. i like karl urban. good actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: txbobfan on January 13, 2010, 08:02:17 PM
I'm new here...and only just started my 3rd Butcher book (Grave Peril) and I can't seem to get away from picturing in my mind Jim Butcher as Harry. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on January 13, 2010, 08:11:35 PM
THANK YOU! I do that too!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 13, 2010, 10:11:46 PM
I'm new here...and only just started my 3rd Butcher book (Grave Peril) and I can't seem to get away from picturing in my mind Jim Butcher as Harry. 

I think it's the sweats and tees. I always see Jim in those and Harry's described as wearing those alot so I go "hmmm..."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 14, 2010, 03:06:01 AM
i actually imagined Jim as a Butters type character. or Mike the mechanic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on January 14, 2010, 05:12:13 AM
Apparently you haven't seen his author photo yet.  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on January 14, 2010, 11:32:33 AM
i actually imagined Jim as a Butters type character. or Mike the mechanic.

He was one of the lab guys in a white coat in one of the episodes of the TV show.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Big-Puff on January 14, 2010, 09:17:12 PM
Harry   -  Daniel Cudmore 
Murphy - Eliza Dushku/Sarah Michelle Gellar/Kristen Bell
Bob      - Jeff Goldblum/Brad Garrett
Thomas - Keanu Reeves/David Boreanaz/Hugh Jackman
Susan   - Marjean Holden/Noémie Lenoir
Molly    - Leelee Sobieski/Doutzen Kroes/Tamsin Egerton

Wardens
Morgan   - Dolph Lundgren/Tyler Mane
Luccio   - Angelina Jolie
Ramirez  - Jesse Metcalfe

Hoods
Marcone  - Victor Garber
Hendrex  - John DeSantis
Gard     - Mariel Hemingway/Lucy Lawless

Knights of the Cross
Michael  - Rory McCann
Charity  - Rebecca Romijn/Geena Davis
Sanya    - Tony Todd/Will Smith/Alex English
Shiro    - Jackie Chan/Jet Li/Yuen Biao

Nevernever
Lea      - Brooke Shields/Nicole Kidman/Elle Macpherson
Mab      - Brenda Strong/Tilda Swinton
Tatania  - Courtney Cox/Kate Beckinsale/Demi Moore
Aurora   - Shaina Sandoval
Lilly    - Emma Watson/
Maeve    - Amanda Bynes/Kate Bosworth
Summer K - Zac Efron/Daniel Radcliffe/Shia LaBeouf 
Winter K - Eric Bana/Russel Crow/Ray Liotta
Mother S - Sigourney Weaver
Mother W - Meryl Streep


Vamps
Bianca   - Claire Stansfield/Kim Smith
Lara     - Rachel Nichols/Jordana Brewster

Nicodemus- James Marsters/Brian Steele/Nigel Bennett
Kincaid  - Kevin Durand/Ralf Moeller
Ivy      - Dakota Fanning/

White Counsel
Ebeneza  - Gerald McRaney/Bruce Willis
Rashid   - Carel Struycken
Merlin   - Powers Boothe
LTW      - Nathan Lee/Eric Schweig/Ray Tracey
Mai    - Gong Li/Michelle Yeoh/Ming-Na/LUCY LIU

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 14, 2010, 11:31:17 PM
even tho uve got it all lined out, dont really like most of the choices. specially Daniel Cudmore. but tis watev
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 15, 2010, 07:58:05 AM
I think this guy could pull off "Nicodemas"
http://onlinepresence-media.com/ultimate-fansites.com/ddl/images/misc/derekbw.jpg

He was on the show Poltergeist: The Legacy. He fits the stereo type of Nic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CHAR2056 on January 15, 2010, 02:46:32 PM
I think Aldis Hodge would be a good Sanya.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm372344832/nm0388038
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 15, 2010, 11:05:54 PM
(http://www.flickpeek.com/images/actors/pic_111975.jpg)(http://www.gabrielmovie.com/gallery2/Dwaine-Stevenson_5.jpg)

This guy, Dwaine Stevenson, has a good look.  Im thinking Kincaid. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 16, 2010, 06:24:53 AM
Stop the presses!

I was watching Skating and saw this young man up close and he would make a terrific Harry Dresden!  He looks young in these pix, and well he is young, but Harry is aging slowly, right?
(http://www.ifsmagazine.com/archive/2007/JUNE/1.jpg)  (http://www.dispatch.com/wwwexportcontent/sites/dispatch/images/may/LYSACEK_FS_2_-_04_18_2007_-.jpg_05-04-07_D6_KN6IC7N.jpg)(http://www.seventeen.com/cm/seventeen/images/evan-lysacek-75595146.jpg)
Evan Lysacek
tall lanky and able to run from chlorofiends.
he is 6' 2" and likes Coca-Cola.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on January 16, 2010, 06:39:51 AM
Great catch, Blaze! 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 16, 2010, 01:07:32 PM
Thanks, Priscellie!  I heard him interview and he has the voice too. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 16, 2010, 01:20:26 PM
If I were to cast a building / set for Harry's office from the books, I like the one I see in the old "Ray Bradbury Theatre" show intro. I was watching the dvd set of it I have and the more I saw the office setting and elevator in the intro, the more I thought of the scene from Storm Front. It just fits in my mind. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIxWOsvYInI
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 16, 2010, 01:32:43 PM
Not Selectric for Harry though, an Underwood.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on January 16, 2010, 07:09:16 PM
Great catch, Blaze! 

I completely agree! He's perfect!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 16, 2010, 09:05:07 PM
Aww, thanks MSD!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: logarithm.and.blues on January 16, 2010, 09:40:02 PM
What about the guy who played Paul Ballard in Dollhouse for Harry? Just putting it out there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: E_Aragon on January 17, 2010, 02:48:40 PM
Hi, everyone! I'm new to the board but I'm a long time fan and lurker.

I've always pictured Robert Forster as Marcone. If anyone's ever seen him in Heroes you'll get it.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001233/

For Ebenezer I pictured Jaws Richard Dreyfuss. I could really see him getting into this kind of role.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000377/

For Michael...don't laugh but I can really see Liev Schreiber playing Michael.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000630/

For Bob, I always pictured Craig Ferguson's voice. If you don't know who he is he's used to it.
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0272401/

Harry is a special case, but I think Nathan Fillion would be great. If anyone has seen him in Castle you'll understand why.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0277213/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on January 17, 2010, 06:56:33 PM
For Bob, I always pictured Craig Ferguson's voice. If you don't know who he is he's used to it.
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0272401/

thiiiiiiiissss, oh so much.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on January 17, 2010, 09:34:53 PM
For Michael...don't laugh but I can really see Liev Schreiber playing Michael.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000630/
I could see that.

For Bob, I always pictured Craig Ferguson's voice. If you don't know who he is he's used to it.
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0272401/
SUPER DISAGREE! Blech! Ptew! Gack! Craig Ferguson is annoying to me on a level that I previously thought impossible. I don't like the thought of Bob as a Scott either. It doesn't really cover Bob's accent in the books, but for some reason I feel like his accent changes based on his owner (in the same way his personality reflects his master.) I like Eugene Levy for v.o. Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: E_Aragon on January 17, 2010, 10:03:16 PM
Craig does have his moments but I can really picture him saying "Tear her dress off!". After being forced to have read his book American on Purpose it's kind of hard not to like him. Eugene Levy is pretty hilarious though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 18, 2010, 02:15:38 AM
i keep sayin it (or do i ?) Ryan Reynolds for the voice of bob. i would piss myself with laughter if half the stuff bob said came out of his mouth. hes just got the sarcasm.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 18, 2010, 06:21:43 AM
Ok... I like the guy who played Jack Sully in Avatar for Harry. At the beginning he had the hair and everything before they gave him the jarhead makeover.

And the evil old Marine guy for either Kincaid although he seems old then for Murphy so maybe as a hardened Marcone?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 18, 2010, 07:25:15 AM
Heres Some more people who might fit the roles :


Harry  :   

(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/SeanBlackstone/Dresden002.jpg)

Sam Worthington




i love quoting myself XD  yes, i think hed make a great harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 18, 2010, 08:33:54 PM
Ok... I like the guy who played Jack Sully in Avatar for Harry.

Bleah.  The Ben-Affleck-on-steroids look does not work for me at all.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: thelordbeans on January 18, 2010, 09:18:02 PM
Worthington =/= Harry

Since I just watched Sherlock...
Jude Law == Thomas?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 18, 2010, 10:12:55 PM
Jude Law is somewhat repellent to me; ergo I will never see him as Thomas.  Good actor, just gives me the willies.... heavens knows he wouldn't think much of me either if he saw me...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on January 18, 2010, 11:28:46 PM
I haven't seen Jude Law as human since I saw him in AI. And I don't think it was great acting, it's just... he doesn't look real.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on January 19, 2010, 12:26:51 AM
I always imagine flamboyant!overthetop!ghey Thomas as Russell Brand... any other time I don't really have a clear picture of him...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on January 19, 2010, 02:22:56 AM
I like my cracktheory that Thomas modeled his ridiculous French accent after Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 19, 2010, 02:37:02 AM
I like my cracktheory that Thomas modeled his ridiculous French accent after Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast.

I was suspecting that he had actually gone out and read some Anita Blake on a "how do vampires who have to live in the real world get on ?" research basis...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 19, 2010, 05:13:20 AM
I like my crack theory that Thomas modeled his ridiculous French accent after Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast.

This is full of yes.  Thomas does Jerry Orbach doing Lumiere.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 20, 2010, 08:17:56 AM
I sort of like Tom Sizemore for "Marcone"
http://www.dailyheadlineblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/tom-sizemore.jpg

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: E_Aragon on January 21, 2010, 12:15:18 AM
I always pictured Rawllings as Reginald VelJohnson. He was pretty good in Die Hard.
http://www.nndb.com/people/045/000108718/

My friend stood behind Vinnie Jones once in Starbucks and he said that Vinnie would be a perfect Cujo Hendricks
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005068/

Bryan Greenberg would seem like a good Vincent sarcastic and smart.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Greenberg
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: animals on January 21, 2010, 07:07:27 AM
I always pictured Rawllings as Reginald VelJohnson. He was pretty good in Die Hard.
http://www.nndb.com/people/045/000108718/

My friend stood behind Vinnie Jones once in Starbucks and he said that Vinnie would be a perfect Cujo Hendricks
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005068/

Bryan Greenberg would seem like a good Vincent sarcastic and smart.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Greenberg

Agree on all counts
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on January 22, 2010, 10:35:35 PM
I always pictured Rawllings as Reginald VelJohnson. He was pretty good in Die Hard.
http://www.nndb.com/people/045/000108718/

My friend stood behind Vinnie Jones once in Starbucks and he said that Vinnie would be a perfect Cujo Hendricks
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005068/

Bryan Greenberg would seem like a good Vincent sarcastic and smart.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Greenberg

I agree with Carl Winslow and Bryan Greenberg, but I feel like Vinnie Jones is a)Not thick enough (physically) and b)I don't think he can do an American accent.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 22, 2010, 10:47:41 PM
Look up this guy: David Chokachi (some images were NSFW)
OMG some of the pics under google... I want him playing Harry! *rrrowrrr!*

And this guy could make a good Senior Council person or maybe Nic: Tony Amendola
http://www.berkeleyrep.org/press/images/artists/Berkeley_Rep_Amendola_lr.jpg
He is a good F Murray Abraham look alike. I always mistake him for him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on January 23, 2010, 03:13:17 AM
Look up this guy: David Chokachi (some images were NSFW)
OMG some of the pics under google... I want him playing Harry! *rrrowrrr!*

And this guy could make a good Senior Council person or maybe Nic: Tony Amendola
http://www.berkeleyrep.org/press/images/artists/Berkeley_Rep_Amendola_lr.jpg
He is a good F Murray Abraham look alike. I always mistake him for him.

Didn't he play Salmon Rushdie on that episode of Seinfeld?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 23, 2010, 06:14:04 AM
Didn't he play Salmon Rushdie on that episode of Seinfeld?

Yeah that 2nd actor did... Tony A... he's the one I always think is a dead ringer for F Murray Abraham.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on January 23, 2010, 09:13:29 PM
A thought occurs...Patrick Warburton as Micheal.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 23, 2010, 11:58:31 PM
too comedic i think. hed make a good rawlings maybe.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on January 26, 2010, 11:14:31 AM
It took 2 seasons and the start of a third for me to be convinced, but now I am:  Adam Baldwin should play Mac.  He is very good at communicating a great deal of info via grunts.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on January 26, 2010, 12:38:42 PM
It took 2 seasons and the start of a third for me to be convinced, but now I am:  Adam Baldwin should play Mac.  He is very good at communicating a great deal of info via grunts.

Inspired!  I never would have thought of him.  The more I think about it, the more I like it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on January 26, 2010, 07:09:57 PM
I agree! That's a great idea!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Paynesgrey on January 27, 2010, 12:03:34 AM
He works... I pictured Mac a little older, but I can see Adam Baldwin doing the quiet man you don't want to annoy.  And he's got that "you're really being an idiot" non-expression down pat.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on January 27, 2010, 12:53:08 AM
The description of baldness keeps bringing me back to Jeff Bridges in his role for Iron Man.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on January 27, 2010, 01:33:35 AM
I like!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 27, 2010, 02:00:57 AM
...and because I cited Evan Lysacek as our Harry Dresden on Ice, I give you Johnny Weir as our Thomas on Ice:
(http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Festa+On+Ice+2009+QYI_vBa8g5Al.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 27, 2010, 02:05:58 AM
(http://z.about.com/d/figureskating/1/7/B/X/-/-/evanjohnny.jpg)
Thomas, Harry...  see? 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 27, 2010, 02:06:48 AM
(http://z.about.com/d/figureskating/1/7/B/X/-/-/evanjohnny.jpg)
Thomas, Harry...  see? 

*is trying not to laugh too loudly seeing shes' at work*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on January 27, 2010, 02:10:24 AM
the one on the right is a little TOO flamboyant for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 27, 2010, 04:17:13 AM
I still like the thief guy from White Collar for Thomas. *rrowrrr*!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on January 27, 2010, 04:25:04 AM
the one on the right is a little TOO flamboyant for me.

(click to show/hide)

Blaze, I agree for the Harry, but I don't think the Thomas is hot enough.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on January 27, 2010, 04:38:05 AM
Mark Sheppard as Binder.... :D it makes me happy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: E_Aragon on January 27, 2010, 11:47:30 AM
The great Ray Winstone would also be a good Binder in my opinion. Most people know him as the voice of Beowulf.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0935653/

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/25/article-1089235-0284730D000005DC-327_468x589.jpg)


I'm still going with Robert Forster as Marcone
(http://images.fearnet.com/fearnetImages/imwU8dALFFCDee35CPxrZ+SA==.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on January 27, 2010, 10:09:01 PM
Robert Foster is too obviously old. Marcone is supposed to look between 30 and 45.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on January 27, 2010, 11:13:28 PM
Ok, he can wait at my place until you change your mind....  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on January 27, 2010, 11:29:57 PM
Also I like Molly C Quinn as Lily.  I know she's only like 17 but she has that whole ethereal beauty going on.  Very Tolkien elvish in appearance.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: FlaggerX on January 28, 2010, 12:36:26 AM
Actually having recently seen The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus I think Lily Cole, who played  Parnassus daughter well capable of playing Lily.  Or any other person who needs to show both innocence and unearthly beauty.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 28, 2010, 09:29:44 AM
I still vote Matt Bomer for Thomas. He has the look, the acting skills and the steel blue eyes... *drools and swoons* http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=21&pos=38 Just looking at him makes me want to die and go to heaven...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on January 28, 2010, 01:42:38 PM
And Priscellie will thank you for it!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on January 28, 2010, 03:11:28 PM
I liked Matt Bomer for Thomas the moment I saw the first White Collar poster on a New York City bus.  When I saw the pilot, he *became* Thomas in my mind.  He had a sort of predatory charisma that felt pitch-perfect for our favourite vampire.  Said predatory charisma was toned down in subsequent episodes, but the pilot proved to me he could pull it off, both aesthetically and dramatically.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 28, 2010, 07:25:06 PM
and he has those crazy eyes as I call them... and he's a cute Texas boy ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 29, 2010, 03:31:58 AM
zOMG! if you didn't think Matt Bomer was Thomas before... think "Grave Peril" and look at this:
http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=10052&fullsize=1
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on January 29, 2010, 05:08:24 AM
I love you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 29, 2010, 06:39:46 AM
I saw that and could imagine him with those wings from Thomas' outfit and the sword :D
*giggle teehee giggle swoon*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on January 29, 2010, 11:13:44 AM
That's the problem with characters in literature who're hotter-than-hot.  They don't translate. 

Sure, Matt Bomer's good-looking, don't get me wrong. But he doesn't trip my trigger.  Thomas trips everyone's trigger, even some guys and not the gay ones.  Sure, a good portion of that is White Court allure, but still. 

It wouldn't matter who played Thomas, there'd be a sizeable chunk of the audience saying "Meh.  I don't see it."

I think for Thomas, you need to pick Harry first and then grab a guy who looks kinda the same but better-looking and dub him Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on January 29, 2010, 03:38:30 PM
hmm...though kali's point is well understood someone would need to be cast, and this Bomer guy is the best I have seen so far...

This coming from a straight male should carry some weight...or is that my ego?....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 29, 2010, 03:53:47 PM
hmm...though kali's point is well understood someone would need to be cast, and this Bomer guy is the best I have seen so far...

Malkovich, malkovich malkovich.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on January 29, 2010, 04:52:43 PM
I think Orlando Bloom would make a decent Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 29, 2010, 04:54:54 PM
I think Orlando Bloom would make a decent Thomas.

Nah; he's too much of a milksop.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: FlaggerX on January 29, 2010, 10:11:48 PM
Malkovich, malkovich malkovich.

I love John Malkovich but he's not handsome enough to play Thomas.  Nicodemus or Peabody, absolutely, though as the man really can act.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Paynesgrey on January 30, 2010, 01:13:04 AM
I love John Malkovich but he's not handsome enough to play Thomas.  Nicodemus or Peabody, absolutely, though as the man really can act.

He'd play either quite well.  Only problem is, he's usually a creepy scarey guy, so if he was playing Peabody, people immdediatley say "Aw, fuck.  That's John Malkovitch.  Peobody's got to be a villain."  Wonder who Gary Oldman would play best? 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: E_Aragon on February 01, 2010, 01:01:06 PM
Michael Fassbender for Thomas? He kicked ass in 300.

300 long haired Michael:

(http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/R/p/N/300pubc.jpg)


Regular black hair Michael:

(http://youngromantic.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/michael-fassbender.jpg)


Now picture Michael with long black hair.


paynesgrey  Gary Oldman? How about Nicodemus?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 02, 2010, 01:52:00 AM
can Zachary Levi fit in the Dresdenverse?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on February 02, 2010, 03:31:03 PM
If Butters were 6+ feet, yeah. :D Don't get me wrong - I thoroughly enjoy Chuck and Levi's job therein. But even his most slicked-up pub shots are still sorta milquetoast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 02, 2010, 04:08:21 PM
He can look pretty butch, actually, but even with scruff and in ratty clothes he just looks YOUNG.  Mid-twenties, tops.  He can't pass for 30.  Get some age on him, and I'd buy him as Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: OutlawAk on February 04, 2010, 09:36:15 PM
Hey all, I've decided to weigh in on this topic. Sorry if any of these are obvious repeats, but I couldn't manage to wade through all 110 pages of previous info. As you will tell by my choices, I am trying to - in my head - cast this as a new show with a younger cast that could stick around for a few seasons of TV that would draw a WIDE Fanboy / Girl based audience.

Let me know what you think!!


HARRY DRESDEN - Jared Padalecki

(Supernatural's tall pretty boy would be a perfect body type for the snarky detective. He's got great acting chops, swell comic timing and can physically handle the action parts required. Plus he's older than they play him on TV so it's not a stretch to see him as a late 20's gritty guy to start like in "Storm Front". Give him some stubble and let him brood a bit more and you've got Harry.)

LT. KARRIN MURPHY - Allison Mack
( Smallville's snarky reporter in training / now Watchtower has proven she's got excellent range and incredible ability to bring the high drama. As a physical match she fits the tiny detective perfectly and I am betting without a shadow of doubt that she also could fill the role of the butt-kicking monster hunting tough chick with aplomb and no little amount of attitude.)

"VOICE OF" BOB - James Marsters
(If you've listened to the audio books, this one is a no-brainer. His characterisation of Bob is tremendous. I wouldn't change a thing.)

MORGAN; WARDEN OF THE WHITE COUNCIL - Sean Bean
("Boromir" from LOTR has tons of acting cred and would bring a monster presence to the Council's Vicious Attack Dog. Obsessed Angry Super Cop? Sean Bean, all the way.)

THOMAS RAITH - Sam Witwer
(Darth Vader's Secret Apprentice from "The Force Unleashed"  and more recently Smallville's interpretation of "Doomsday" has the type of superhero-ish physique that Thomas requires. Is the King of Dark, Handsome, brooding and sinisterly sexual but also has incredible range to bring the heartbreak and emotion required. Throw on some longer, Alberto-styled dark hair and this is the man.)

LEA; THE LEANANDESIDHE - Julie Benz
(Angel's "Darla", Dexter's "Rita "but it was her recent work as the enigmatic souther belle / FBI superstar in the Boondock Saints 2: All Saint's Day that convinced me of this call. Julie would OWN Lea, being both caring, yet aloof, concerned and etherial, with attitude to spare.)

MICHAEL CARPENTER; KNIGHT OF THE CROSS - Adam Baldwin
(I think that Adam's gotten a bum rap with the type of roles he gets. Don't misunderstand, I loved "Jayne" and "Casey" on Chuck is awesome. But these guys often end up being the butt of the joke despite being the powerhouse butt kickers. I think that Adam Baldwin would bring a real gravity to the compassionate, controlled, reightous Michael. In fact, I am DYING to see him swing around that cruciform sword while slaying demons asunder.)

"GENTLEMAN" JOHNNY MARCONE - Keith Carradine
(This incredibly talented actor has recently wowed me with the depth he's brought to "Special Agent Lundy" on Dexter and then as the megalomaniacal Rossum Corporation head on Dollhouse. I think he would be perfect as the monstrously professional mob boss Marcone. My ONLY concern? Might be a touch too old for the cast.)

MERLIN LANGTRY - John Lithgow
(Who doesn't love Lithgow? The sinister intellect he could bring to this character wouold be remarkable to watch I figure. Plus his sheer size and height would make him a physical peer to Dresden, in addition to the magical-political superior.)

LILY; THE SUMMER LADY - Dichen Lachman
(During her stint on the now cancelled Dollhouse, her turn as "Sierra / Priya" was very well received. I have no doubt that Dichen could play the level of vulnerabilty and Fae-poise that this role would require.)

MAB; THE QUEEN OF AIR AND DARKNESS - Olivia Williams
(And while I'm mining the cast list from Dollhouse I Have to include this remarkable woman as being my first, best and favorite choice to play the "Wickedest of the Wicked Witches" Mab. Olivia is a stunning woman whose grace, poise and power presence are completely undeniable.)



I'm having trouble casting in my head SANYA, RAMIREZ, LARA RAITH and strangely SUSAN> I can pick "big time" actors for all of those parts. But for the level that I am looking for, I can't seem to make anyone fit. But give me time.

Thoughts?

AK
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 05, 2010, 04:46:28 AM
Jared for harry = Interesting choise! I never thought of him that way. Might work! (I'm still all for Paul Blackthorne, But I know some things can never push through... *sigh*, haha|)

allison for murphy = hmm... interesting choice, too... I'll have to think on this one, though. I don't really see it.

james as bob = haven't heard him yet.

Sean as morgan = WOOT I AM SOOO ALL FOR THIS!

Sam as Thomas = well, he doesn't exactly scream thomas in my head... hmmm...

as for the rest, I still have to look them up, and I only have a limited time in this here Internet Cafe, so maybe later. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on February 05, 2010, 07:53:15 AM
I think I'm actually okay with everyone on your list, outlaw!
although I will never see Padalecki as anything other than Dean from Gilmore Girls...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: OutlawAk on February 05, 2010, 03:21:52 PM
I honestly never thought I would be able to get into Supernatural either, but it's often his performance that really sells the show for me - especially in the ones where he's allowed to get darker and grittier. I was just watching it the other night with my Mrs Outlaw when I just went "Man, this guy coul be Harry". Thus, my posting
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on February 05, 2010, 05:21:22 PM
I've been trying to get into Supernatural lately but I keep getting distracted by PrettyfaceTM (Dean) and GilmoreGirlsDean... I dunno. Is it good enough to waste a few hours on to get used to the characters?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: OutlawAk on February 05, 2010, 05:27:47 PM
I was finally sold in the third season when they flat out did the "Groundhog Day" episode. I went from laughing my ass off to being intensely interested in Sam's adrk-character development.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: E_Aragon on February 06, 2010, 12:20:53 AM
Eric Kripke for Harry Dresden series! For those that don't know he created the show Supernatural and I think he would do a Dresden show justice. 

Sean Bean for Morgan? YES PLEASE! Sean Bean is awesome!

Who could play Molly? I haven't seen any love for Molly lately. Alison Lohman? Main girl in Drag me to Hell. She was pretty good in Matchstick Men.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0517844/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on February 06, 2010, 01:33:27 AM
I like sean bean as micheal instead of morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on February 06, 2010, 04:00:33 PM
Did anyone see the new Criminal Minds episode? Either way, this guy could definitely play Thomas... he's so prettyboy he's making my teeth ace:
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2vulzm8.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 06, 2010, 09:44:08 PM
Did anyone see the new Criminal Minds episode? Either way, this guy could definitely play Thomas... he's so prettyboy he's making my teeth ace:
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2vulzm8.jpg)

 :o :-*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 07, 2010, 03:05:18 AM
Did anyone see the new Criminal Minds episode? Either way, this guy could definitely play Thomas... he's so prettyboy he's making my teeth ace:
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2vulzm8.jpg)

Yep, saw it! Valerie did a great job. xD

*stares at pic* mm-hmm..... wow.
I kinda imagine Thomas a little less rugged, tho.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on February 07, 2010, 11:23:34 AM
He can shave :D
Also that episode really shows that this guy can really do the charming playboy/tortured monster thing which is what Thomas is all about.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bbsmith2 on February 07, 2010, 06:51:55 PM
Mac - Terry O'Quinn You served my dark cold look? (http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080507/425.lost3.050708.jpg)

Marcone - Michael Emerson Tiger's soul? (http://allserieslinamarcela.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/michael-emerson.jpg)
Marcone #2 - Neil Jackson Tiger's soul? (http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Imported/BioPix/Mi/bio16/neil-jackson1.jpg)

Susan - Rachel Bilson Smile reminds me of when she hit on Harry in the bar (http://blogs.phillynews.com/inquirer/mirrorimage/Rachel%20Bilson.jpg)

Michael - Dominic Purcell Michael's workman look? (http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/blade__trinity/dominic_purcell/trinitypreo.jpg)

all I have so far.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 08, 2010, 12:36:51 AM
Mac - Terry O'Quinn You served my dark cold look? (http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080507/425.lost3.050708.jpg)

Marcone - Michael Emerson Tiger's soul? (http://allserieslinamarcela.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/michael-emerson.jpg)
Marcone #2 - Neil Jackson Tiger's soul? (http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Imported/BioPix/Mi/bio16/neil-jackson1.jpg)

Susan - Rachel Bilson Smile reminds me of when she hit on Harry in the bar (http://blogs.phillynews.com/inquirer/mirrorimage/Rachel%20Bilson.jpg)

Michael - Dominic Purcell Michael's workman look? (http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/blade__trinity/dominic_purcell/trinitypreo.jpg)

all I have so far.



I'd rather susan be racially right, heh. the mac choice looks great xD as for the rest, I'm not so sure :D  already had one for Marcone, so yeah xD

imho and all..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on February 08, 2010, 09:18:17 AM
Ok... I haven't been a Chuck fan ... I only really caught one episode and it had Bryce in it (aka the extremely hot Mr Matthew Bomer *rrrowrrr*) and so I've been trying to find the eps with Bryce and watch those and as I was watching one today, it hit me:

The guy who plays Chuck would make an EXCELLENT Waldo Butters! He fits although he is a bit on the tall side but he fits personality wise. I mean think about it... Chuck is basically Butters but with spies!

So that was my brainfart for the evening while imbibing a bit too much on the Matt Bower tv show bottle. (been rewatching White Collar episodes)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bbsmith2 on February 08, 2010, 07:07:09 PM
I would have thought that too about Rachel Bilson, but I saw this photo of her and thought she could fit the exotic look described in the novels.  Exotic look (http://celebhairstyle.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/rachel-bilson-picture.jpg).  She's part Italian so I think she could pull it off. 

Marcone is kinda tough to figure out.  It's hard to find someone who can pull off that evil or good look. 


I have a few more picks here.

Butters - Christopher Mintz-Plasse Geeky guy who believes polka will never die! (http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/mc/year_one_premiere_160609/christopher_mintz-plasse_2462634.jpg)  Yes I know he was McLovin in Superbad, but I can picture him in a polka suit, shaking, in front of a zombie dinosaur.  Just something about that kid fits for me.


Morgan - Javier Bardem Keeping an eye on Harry (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2647/javierbardemdl8.jpg)  Yes it is the same guy that played the hitman in No Country for Old Men.  I would hate to have him looking over my shoulder.


Sanya - Chiwetel Ejiofor I couldn't find one of him holding his sword from Serenity (http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/701/701650/serenity-2-20060413021803366-000.jpg)  Yes this is the guy that played the Operative in Serenity. 


Ebenezar - Is it just me or do you picture Uncle Jesse from the Dukes of Hazard when you read his description?..lol


Do you think it's more important they "look" the the descriptions or that they can pull of the character?  Most of the time I've been racking my brain thinking of folks that fit both, but yet I always go to if they could pull it off.  That's one reason why I liked Paul int he TV show, watching him and reading about Harry was pretty close to being the same.  The same with Bob in the TV series.  Granted Terrance Mann wasn't as girl crazy, but those times when Bob said something to protect Harry in the tv series I could almost imagine that in the book.  Take the whole trying to kill Harry thing and how sorry he felt afterward (or before-ward).  So I dunno, what do you guys think is more important to casting the role(s)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 08, 2010, 07:15:22 PM
He can shave :D
Also that episode really shows that this guy can really do the charming playboy/tortured monster thing which is what Thomas is all about.

Yes, but who IS he? :D  What's his name?  I need to begin stalking him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on February 08, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
Watch your BBCode, bbsmith2. :D  I've had to go back and fix all of your links.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bbsmith2 on February 08, 2010, 10:02:14 PM
 >:(  I thought I had them right.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on February 09, 2010, 12:49:42 AM
Butters is 38 in DB.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 09, 2010, 01:44:41 AM
Do you think it's more important they "look" the the descriptions or that they can pull of the character?  Most of the time I've been racking my brain thinking of folks that fit both, but yet I always go to if they could pull it off.  That's one reason why I liked Paul int he TV show, watching him and reading about Harry was pretty close to being the same.  The same with Bob in the TV series.  Granted Terrance Mann wasn't as girl crazy, but those times when Bob said something to protect Harry in the tv series I could almost imagine that in the book.  Take the whole trying to kill Harry thing and how sorry he felt afterward (or before-ward).  So I dunno, what do you guys think is more important to casting the role(s)


That's a good point thar.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on February 09, 2010, 05:03:23 PM
Yes, but who IS he? :D  What's his name?  I need to begin stalking him.
Victor Webster
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005543/
voila!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 09, 2010, 06:53:07 PM
Victor Webster
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005543/
voila!

Hellllooooo male nurse!

Oh wow, he was Coop on Charmed.  I had the pitter-pats for him then, too.  I don't remember seeing him shirtless, but I didn't watch much that season.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on February 09, 2010, 07:27:02 PM
Charmed! Gosh and Golly, that isn't still going is it?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on February 09, 2010, 08:29:34 PM
Charmed! Gosh and Golly, that isn't still going is it?
No its done thank the maker.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: esigma on February 09, 2010, 10:51:56 PM
It is funny someone mentioning Cristoph Waltz for Nicodemus. the other day I was reading Death Masks and when you first meet Nicodemus for some reason he popped in my head.
I always imagine Mac as Bruce Willis for some reason. But someone mentioned in their post Adam Baldwin. I think that would work.
I always imagine Sarah Michelle Gellar as Murphy>
In a previous post someone mentioned Erica Cerra as Susan. Reading the books again that is who I see as Susan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on February 10, 2010, 12:29:36 AM
Yup, Erica Cerra is who Jim pictures as Susan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 13, 2010, 12:03:23 PM
I dunno why, but I keep imagining Elaine as Gabrielle Anwar - Fiona in Burn Notice O.o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on February 13, 2010, 01:20:37 PM
i just realised , when i read the books , i imagine harry pretty much like that sawyer guy from lost. i think the scowl is why, and he's constantly calling people by nicknames. also gard - the main character from fringe. -yeah i don't know the names i only watch evry odd episode of either.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 13, 2010, 01:28:44 PM
I dunno why, but I keep imagining Elaine as Gabrielle Anwar - Fiona in Burn Notice O.o

Oh wow, a complete opposite of the mental image I get. 

Gabrielle Anwar... Every time she's on screen, I keep thinking she looks bizarre.  "Mummified" is how I usually describe her; all bones and skin stretched tight over them.  Not so much a healthy tan as literally tanned, like leather.  Blergh.  She gives me the creeps.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on February 13, 2010, 05:46:19 PM
This is what I figure for my best cast so far

Harry Dresden-Nathan Fillion

Karrin Murphy-erica cerra or stana katic

Bob-hugh laurie

Thomas-Orlando Bloom(I keep picture thomas looking alot like will turner since he did all that leaping around on his boat in WN)

Michael-Liev Schreiber

Susan-Eva Mendes

Bianca-Morena Bacarin

Kincaid-Adam Baldwin

Gentleman John Marcone

Donald Morgan-Any suggestions?  I cant think of a single white actor in hollywood who could pull him off.

Lara Raith-Angelina Jolie

Sanya-Christopher Judge

Butters-Seth Green

Gard-Lucy Lawless

Hendricks-Vin Diesel or Dwayne Johnson(they dont need a lot of acting talent to stand around and glare)

Nicodemus-Mark Strong

Toot Toot-Alan Tudyk
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on February 14, 2010, 12:23:24 AM
Donald Morgan-Any suggestions?  I cant think of a single white actor in hollywood who could pull him off.

Is Rutger Hauer still working in Hollywood ?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on February 14, 2010, 07:00:45 AM
Is Rutger Hauer still working in Hollywood ?
Yes!  Give him a grey ponytail and a sword and he's perfect!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 14, 2010, 11:58:05 AM
This is what I figure for my best cast so far

Harry Dresden-Nathan Fillion


*fangirly squee*

@Kali: I don't really know why. Sometimes I get Gabrielle, sometimes I get some cute black haired girl that I'm still trying to figure out who she looks like..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on February 14, 2010, 04:49:41 PM
Oh wow, a complete opposite of the mental image I get. 

Gabrielle Anwar... Every time she's on screen, I keep thinking she looks bizarre.  "Mummified" is how I usually describe her; all bones and skin stretched tight over them.  Not so much a healthy tan as literally tanned, like leather.  Blergh.  She gives me the creeps.

I agree.  I shudder when they put her in a bikini on Burn Notice.  It's like an anatomy lesson--I can count her ribs.  I enjoy her character, but I wish she'd eat something a little more substantial than yogurt.  Maybe a rack of pork ribs.

Elaine, no.  Hashat, maybe?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 14, 2010, 05:12:44 PM
I vote Evangeline Lilly for Elaine.  Mostly 'cause I have a girl crush on her. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on February 14, 2010, 07:49:38 PM
Bob-hugh laurie


Here's something strange I stumbled across the other day.

(http://lookliker.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/hugh-laurie-terrence-mann.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on February 14, 2010, 07:58:33 PM
*grabs head with both hands*

Hugh Laurie as Rum Tum Tugger.  Head asplode.  Ow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on February 14, 2010, 08:35:25 PM
*grabs head with both hands*

Hugh Laurie as Rum Tum Tugger.  Head asplode.  Ow.

My work here is done. :P



Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Big-Puff on February 15, 2010, 05:04:41 AM
Yep, saw it! Valerie did a great job. xD

*stares at pic* mm-hmm..... wow.
I kinda imagine Thomas a little less rugged, tho.

John Idakitis = Thomas
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wizardsrule on February 15, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
I think Hugh Laurie wood be a good Dresden, he's got the tall and lanky body type and intense eyes. .
Since this is perfect casting I would say younger Alpacino as John Marcone
And an older hayden panettiere as Murphy
anyways those came to me while scanning other post
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 16, 2010, 01:12:05 AM
I think Hugh Laurie wood be a good Dresden, he's got the tall and lanky body type and intense eyes. .
Since this is perfect casting I would say younger Alpacino as John Marcone
And an older hayden panettiere as Murphy
anyways those came to me while scanning other post


I like this. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on February 16, 2010, 07:23:00 AM
I like this. xD


Hugh Laurie is kind of up there in age though.   Paul Blackthorne was only thirty five.  Hugh Laurie is fifty one.  That makes him sixteen-years-older than the last man who played Dresden.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 16, 2010, 03:30:48 PM

Hugh Laurie is kind of up there in age though.   Paul Blackthorne was only thirty five.  Hugh Laurie is fifty one.  That makes him sixteen-years-older than the last man who played Dresden.



well yeah. But since this is "Perfect Casting", a young Hugh Laurie would do just a nicely, I'd think.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on February 16, 2010, 04:00:15 PM
Young Hugh Laurie looked like a doofus.  Only with age did his hotness emerge. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on February 16, 2010, 04:15:46 PM
Sounds like Connery...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on February 16, 2010, 11:52:58 PM
Young Hugh Laurie looked like a doofus.  Only with age did his hotness emerge. :D
http://www.bbcprograms.com/pbs/catalog/blackadder/images/XM03_Blackadder.jpg
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on February 16, 2010, 11:53:48 PM
http://www.bbcprograms.com/pbs/catalog/blackadder/images/XM03_Blackadder.jpg

Exactly!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wizardsrule on February 17, 2010, 12:01:56 AM
I didn't know Hugh laurie was that old, doesn't look like it
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Margo on February 17, 2010, 05:28:24 AM
Perfect casting is a fun game that I play every time I reread one of the books.  I don't have them all handy, but I have to say that I do "see" some of the characters differently from the other posters.  I would love to get Jim Butcher's response to one of my preferences: I think the ONLY person who would be fabulous as Lasciel is Tyra Banks: angel/devil/goddess-girl (I'm a Tyra fan).

I also see Sean Bean as Kinkaid (as well as Aquitainus Attis in Codex Alera).

Paul Blackthorne was OK as Dresden, but a little too smooth--might make a better Thomas.  Harry should be a little more rugged, I feel.

Christopher Walken as the White King.

Lindsay Lohan as Maeve, Sienna Miller as Aurora.

Haven't any good suggestions for Gentleman Johnny Marcone yet--really a challenge!
So, Jim, are any of these close to your vision?
I'll list more possibilities next time.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on February 17, 2010, 10:36:43 PM
I didn't know Hugh laurie was that old, doesn't look like it


It's the hair.  If a man dyes his hair people tend to assume he's a lot younger than if he lets it go gray.   A good example of this is Terrence Mann and Tim Curry.  I've heard people say Terrence Mann is like an older Tim Curry but really he's seven years younger than Tim Curry.  It's just unlike Tim Curry he doesn't bother to dye his hair anymore.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: esigma on February 17, 2010, 11:04:22 PM
I think Sean Bean (IMOP) would be good either as Michael or Morgan. I think he would be a better Michael.
For some reason I see Josh Holloway as Kincaid. Josh Holloway plays Sawyer on Lost.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Raptor on February 18, 2010, 03:02:05 AM
This is something I've thought about a lot:

Dresden: Tough... I think Brendan Fraser could work (he's tall, but not thin... but I think he could do the character)

Murphy: Either Maggie Lawson from Psych (http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Maggie-Lawson-psych-630020_1024_768.jpg)

-or (going on body type)-

Jamie Eason (girl next door, and all springy muscle that doesn't preclude feminine curves) (http://dogandponyshowwebsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jamie_eason-38.jpg)

Thomas: Brad Pitt (I'm thinking Fight Club vintage), but Matt Bomer could work too.

Lara: Angelina Jolie. And she does "wanton, predatory sexuality" really well (and with Mr. & Mrs. Smith/Tomb Raider/Wanted, audiences would believe the action sequences)

Kincaid: Christian Kane (Eliot on Leverage... he may also work for Micheal)

Justine: Megan Fox (if she can do vaguely innocent)

Ebenezar: Sean Connery. Old, badass Scott... yep.

Marcone: George Clooney

Hendricks: Some pro wrestler (Triple H?)

Gard: Lucy Lawless

Bob's Voice: Hugh Laurie

Micheal: dunno

Sanya: Micheal Clark Duncan (a voice-over could fix the accent if he can't do a decent Russian accent)

Butters: Steve Buscemi (with some makeup to make him look younger).

Nicodemus: I want to say Alan Rickman (because everything's better with Alan Rickman), but while he could certainly do "souless evil", I'm not sure if I could buy him as a neigh invincible engine of destruction. Maybe Hugo Weaving?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on February 18, 2010, 12:43:50 PM
as someone already said alan rickman, why don't we go ahead and hire the guy who played voldemort as nicodemus? dude can sing, too. not that that matters. xD

And I can see what you're saying about young Hugh Laurie. Haha.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Raptor on February 18, 2010, 01:10:26 PM
Morgan: John Rhys-Davies (ie: Gimli from the LOTR series... he's actually 6-1)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on February 18, 2010, 04:40:21 PM
Morgan: John Rhys-Davies (ie: Gimli from the LOTR series... he's actually 6-1)
Eh...  I could see that but he's just a bit heavy for it.  He's a bit off on the build in my opinion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on March 16, 2010, 06:48:28 AM
Billy Zane as Mac.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 16, 2010, 01:19:44 PM
What REAL-WORLD BREED do we cast as mouse? xD

and mister? heh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 16, 2010, 01:46:04 PM
Mister can't be purebred.  He's not a longhair so that lets out Maine Coon, and the bobbed tail sort of lets out most other breeds.  That said, I've seen two cats that qualify, so they're out there!  I've a friend out-of-state who owns one of them.  They found him by a dumpster, this tiny little palm-cat who could barely squeak.  Four years later, they have to put him in a beagle-sized dog carrier to take him to the vet.

As for Mouse, there've been a lot of discussions on that score! :D  Even in the books, there are one or two.  I think the Caucasian Shepherd Dog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Shepherd_Dog) was Murphy's guess.  The Anatolian Shepherd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatolian_Shepherd) has been suggested, but Mouse is always described as "shaggy", so I don't think they really qualify.  For the same reason, I think we have to disqualify the Neapolitan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neapolitan_Mastiff) which is otherwise an exellent candidate.  They've certainly got the drool factor.  My pick would be for a Leonberger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonberger), but you'd have to find a gray one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 16, 2010, 02:57:15 PM
  I think the Caucasian Shepherd Dog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Shepherd_Dog) was Murphy's guess. 

that's pretty much how I imagine him to be ^^

mister's unique. >>.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 16, 2010, 03:13:02 PM
The Caucasian was Charity's guess, actually.  And yeah, it's how I view Mouse, too. :D  Great research on the other potential breeds, Kali!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 16, 2010, 03:15:33 PM
... I WANT one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fox on March 16, 2010, 03:19:17 PM
Did you read the page though, sounds like they're tough to handle. :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 16, 2010, 03:21:52 PM
okay, so maybe not exactly one Caucasian Shepherd Dog.

Just a regular, good ol dog as loyal as Mouse, then.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 16, 2010, 04:18:58 PM
The Caucasian was Charity's guess, actually.  And yeah, it's how I view Mouse, too. :D  Great research on the other potential breeds, Kali!

Wikipedia:  Making People Look Smarter, When It's Not Making Them Look Like Total Tools

:D

Also, I should note my vote is for the Leon 'cause I knew one.  This was a pony dog.  He adored kids, would let them climb all over him, pull his ears, his tail, everything.  Just... don't raise a hand to his owner.  Even in play.  He never attacked anyone, but every Mouse scene where Mouse just kind of stands up and *looks* at someone... Yeah, that was Disney.  (Yes, his name was Disney.)  He'd just stop what he was doing and *look*.  And that was a lotta dog to be lookin'.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 16, 2010, 04:20:20 PM
Wikipedia:  Making People Look Smarter, When It's Not Making Them Look Like Total Tools

:D

You could've found evidence that Mouse was a pink and purple glittery unicorn, but you pulled through!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 16, 2010, 04:23:34 PM
You could've found evidence that Mouse was a pink and purple glittery unicorn, but you pulled through!

...that makes me want to edit random things on wikipedia at the risk on being blocked.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 16, 2010, 04:27:43 PM
...that makes me want to edit random things on wikipedia at the risk on being blocked.

It's been done in another thread (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,16053.50.html). 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karrin_Murphy

I think that's enough Wikipedia silliness for one fandom, though. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Captain Kirk on March 16, 2010, 06:07:49 PM
I'm a newbie here and posted this question on a separate forum (knowing that it must have been covered already).

My vote for Harry?  Vince Vaughn.  He's got the height, the sarcasm and the acting skills.  He hasn't always done comedies like "Wedding Crashers".  The first movie I remember him in was "Return to Paradise" with Joaquin Phoenix and that was a pretty heavy drama.  I think he'd be perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 16, 2010, 06:15:57 PM
I have to say that in these more recent series, with Chuck getting more confident and savvy, I could actually see Zach Levi as a young Harry Dresden.  Maybe when he was with Ragged Angel.  He's definitely got tall-and-lanky down pat, he's 6'3" which isn't bad, and he's got a very expressive face.  He can do snark, and he's got time to grow into Harry's bitter undertones.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on March 16, 2010, 06:58:49 PM
I still say my vote sticks on Matt Bomer for Thomas: (this pic is so Thomas)

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 16, 2010, 07:01:40 PM
I still say my vote sticks on Matt Bomer for Thomas: (this pic is so Thomas)

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

I'll be in my bunk.  Again.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on March 17, 2010, 02:13:53 AM
Yep, definitely! Got the eyes!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 17, 2010, 02:17:47 AM
Man, are we still on this?  I've said it once and I'll say it again, Matt Bomer can't play Thomas. *clicks on link*  He's just too uh...

...

too...

...

Um. 

Sorry, what?  I'll uh... I'll be in Priscellie's bunk.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cstanley1976 on March 17, 2010, 02:39:49 AM
I still say my vote sticks on Matt Bomer for Thomas: (this pic is so Thomas)

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1


I really really really like him as Thomas so I'm right there with you.  I've been re-reading the series before changes comes out and when ever I read John Marcone I keep hearing Clancy Brown's voice.  He was the voice of Lex Luthor in the Superman and Justice League Animated series and is playing Hart Sterling on The Deep End.  I know Lex Luthor is very similar to John Marcone and I think Clancy has the hair, just don't know if he has the mannerisms to go with it in a movie or tv show.  But his voice is totally Marcone's
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on March 17, 2010, 02:45:02 AM
Sorry, what?  I'll uh... I'll be in Priscellie's bunk.

Careful, or people'll want to buy tickets.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 17, 2010, 02:48:29 AM
Careful, or people'll want to buy tickets.

I'm not sure you can pimp me out AND threaten to adopt me at the same time. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on March 17, 2010, 07:30:38 AM
He's the Shecky, he is special like that!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 17, 2010, 09:31:43 AM
I still say my vote sticks on Matt Bomer for Thomas: (this pic is so Thomas)

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

oh... wow... errrrm. rrm.

the other bunk seems full, so I'll be in the next one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 18, 2010, 04:41:15 AM
Robert Duvall for Ebenezer.
Roddy Piper for Michael
Hugh Laurie for Nicodemus
Djimon Hounsou for Sasha
Still want Joanne Kelley for Lara.
Actually, make that still want Joanne Kelley period.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 18, 2010, 06:56:39 PM
I want to see Snoop Dogg play Harry at least once...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on March 18, 2010, 08:33:20 PM
I want to see Snoop Dogg play Harry at least once...

WHAAAATT????
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 18, 2010, 08:36:18 PM
WHAAAATT????

It would require a whole new bunch of spells...

Poppus Capius comes to mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 18, 2010, 08:47:26 PM
WHAAAATT????

I had the same reaction. only I screamed it. in front of the computer. at 5 in the morning.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on March 18, 2010, 08:49:05 PM
I had the same reaction. only I screamed it. in front of the computer. at 5 in the morning.
As did I but it was a couple of minutes ago.  At work.  People look at you funny when you do that.  Then I showed my boss the post.  She understood.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 18, 2010, 09:07:57 PM
Snoop is tall. Gangly. A bit funny looking. Full of hidden malice with a bit of an eldritch air around him. He's constantly leaving rooms rapidly filling with smoke. I think it would be an interesting cast against type.

Of course, I'd still rather see Roddy Piper as Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on March 18, 2010, 09:18:35 PM
Snoop is tall. Gangly. A bit funny looking. Full of hidden malice with a bit of an eldritch air around him. He's constantly leaving rooms rapidly filling with smoke. I think it would be an interesting cast against type.

Of course, I'd still rather see Roddy Piper as Michael.

o.0     0.o   
I... I can only pray you're jerking us around...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 18, 2010, 09:25:12 PM
It's usually funnier to figure out what kind of reaction someone is trying to provoke, and give them the exact opposite reaction.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 18, 2010, 10:35:11 PM
OK, sure, we could come in and cast Jennifer Garner as Luccio and Sam Worthington as Michael, but where's the fun in that?

I admit I've got a warped sense of humor, but I hardly think I'm the only one guilty of that around here. I'm having fun, but I promise I'm not trolling. 

C'mon, admit it. Wouldn't it be fun to see Jesse Ventura as Morgan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Big daddy rakshasa85 on March 18, 2010, 10:40:47 PM
OK, sure, we could come in and cast Jennifer Garner as Luccio and Sam Worthington as Michael, but where's the fun in that?

I admit I've got a warped sense of humor, but I hardly think I'm the only one guilty of that around here. I'm having fun, but I promise I'm not trolling. 

C'mon, admit it. Wouldn't it be fun to see Jesse Ventura as Morgan?

Yes *_*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 18, 2010, 10:42:54 PM
And while I''m at it, does anyone else think Sarah Michelle Gellar might finally be getting old and worn enough to play Murphy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on March 18, 2010, 10:54:21 PM
C'mon, admit it. Wouldn't it be fun to see Jesse Ventura as Morgan?
0.0 ...
Okay I'll give you this one, that would be fricken hilarious.  Plus I bet he'd love getting to wear the hair. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 18, 2010, 11:12:53 PM
OK, sure, we could come in and cast Jennifer Garner as Luccio...

NO WE CAN NOT!!! >.<
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 18, 2010, 11:24:49 PM
Jennifer Garner's as predictable a choice for Luccio as Tricia Helfer is for Lash. Gimme someone fun, gimme someone you did not see coming for the part, but qualifies none the less.

Gimme Gromit playing the part of Mouse...

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 18, 2010, 11:59:11 PM
As did I but it was a couple of minutes ago.  At work.  People look at you funny when you do that.  Then I showed my boss the post.  She understood.

Cool boss.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 19, 2010, 01:48:45 AM
sorry for the double post.


So I was reading the best quotes thread, and it struck me that Kirsten Nelson, Chief Vick in Psych, would be interesting as Murphy...

(http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/93/00/0000059300_20090731154132.jpg)

thoughts?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on March 19, 2010, 02:21:48 AM
Snoop is tall. Gangly. A bit funny looking. Full of hidden malice with a bit of an eldritch air around him. He's constantly leaving rooms rapidly filling with smoke. I think it would be an interesting cast against type.

Perhaps if they have a Rastafarian version of DF but at this time... NO :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: IEatChibi on March 19, 2010, 02:27:38 AM
I still say my vote sticks on Matt Bomer for Thomas: (this pic is so Thomas)

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

.....
Um. I'll be in my-   

Hmmmm....
Well, Pricellie's bunk is full, most of the others, too...
.... >_>....<_<.....
I'll be in Matt Bomer's bunk! ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on March 19, 2010, 02:29:52 AM
.....
Um. I'll be in my-   

Hmmmm....
Well, Pricellie's bunk is full, most of the others, too...
.... >_>....<_<.....
I'll be in Matt Bomer's bunk! ;D

Sorry... already there. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: IEatChibi on March 19, 2010, 02:35:08 AM
Sorry... already there. ;)

Oh, I'm sure there's room. ;) Or some sort of rotating schedule could be devised, at least. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zolt on March 19, 2010, 09:58:26 AM
It's usually funnier to figure out what kind of reaction someone is trying to provoke, and give them the exact opposite reaction.

Just sayin'.

Ok... but, what exactly would be the opposite of "OMGWTF??"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on March 19, 2010, 07:29:50 PM
Ok... but, what exactly would be the opposite of "OMGWTF??"

TN:NWWW?
(That's Nice: Now Where Were We?) ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dilking on March 21, 2010, 01:25:57 AM
I don't remember but is there ever a mention of Nicodemus's race?? Because I think that a good casting choice for him would be Eamonn Walker (OZ, Justice). Or if not, he'd also be a GREAT Morgan..


I also think Christian Slater (Kuffs, The Forgotten) would make a great Thomas. Check out his work in My Own Worst Enemy..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 21, 2010, 03:24:51 AM
sorry for the double post.


So I was reading the best quotes thread, and it struck me that Kirsten Nelson, Chief Vick in Psych, would be interesting as Murphy...

(http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/93/00/0000059300_20090731154132.jpg)

thoughts?

What, a woman who plays a blonde police department head named "Karen" who occasionally hires a smart-assed private investigator with apparent supernatural abilities and a "magic head" for a sidekick who drives around the city in a comically small blue car to consult for tougher cases?  I just don't see it. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on March 21, 2010, 05:15:28 AM
Micheal sheen as Quintus Cassius.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 21, 2010, 05:44:35 AM
What, a woman who plays a blonde police department head named "Karen" who occasionally hires a smart-assed private investigator with apparent supernatural abilities and a "magic head" for a sidekick who drives around the city in a comically small blue car to consult for tougher cases?  I just don't see it. :D

...wow... xD never saw the parallels.

...just.. wow!... seriously... wow... whu.... xD

I'm still in shock here.  ;D and still laughing my butt off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: EvulTwin on March 21, 2010, 02:47:53 PM
I think hands down the perfect Thomas is...Matt Bomer. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 21, 2010, 03:03:58 PM
I think hands down the perfect Thomas is...Matt Bomer. 

been said million times. been taken to bunks, even.

I still vote Kirsten Nelson for Murph!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vulcanisik on March 21, 2010, 08:42:21 PM
lawl David Duchovny for Dresden.

Not sure why, he just seems to capture the wit, the playfulness, and the righteous rage.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on March 21, 2010, 11:14:05 PM
So I was watching my favorite guilty pleasure the other day "Corrina, Corrina", and I wondered, whatever happened to that adorable little girl? I haven't really seen her in anything else. So I googled, and found to my immense delight that she is still adorable, not tall and also that she has a black belt in the martial art of Tang Soo Do.
Now, I have no idea what Tang Soo Do is, but it sounds like something Murphy would do.
(http://www.poptower.com/pic-9051/tina-majorino.jpg)(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI5NTM0MTEwMl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTUwODAzMQ@@._V1._SX450_SY393_.jpg)
I dunno, I really like her for Murphy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: RobJN on March 21, 2010, 11:29:55 PM
Tang Soo Do, a Korean martial art, loosely translated as "Empty Hand Way."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 21, 2010, 11:37:13 PM
I adored her on Veronica Mars, and now she's great on The Deep End.  She tends to play meeker characters, though, so I'm not sure how she'd tackle Murphy.  I'd love to see her audition, though!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Der Sturmbrecher on March 22, 2010, 04:27:02 AM
I can't picture anybody but Hugh jackman doing Harry anymore.
Harry: Hugh Jackman
Murphy: Patricia Heaton (needs a hair dye, but I think she'd do well)
Bob: Kevin Kline
Thomas: Matt Bomer
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cstanley1976 on March 22, 2010, 05:52:42 PM
I adored her on Veronica Mars, and now she's great on The Deep End.  She tends to play meeker characters, though, so I'm not sure how she'd tackle Murphy.  I'd love to see her audition, though!

She does play meeker characters on the shows.  But she's so good as an actress and you don't get a black belt in any martial arts without being able to throw down once in a while i think she could pull Murphy off. Its all about how the part is adapted and then how the director directs the actors.  And of course how skilled the actors are.  But I have faith.  She was one of my favorite characters on the deep end.  And I still say Clancy Brown as Marcone. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on March 22, 2010, 09:44:14 PM
What about Lee Pace from Pushing Daisies for Harry? He's 1.91 cm according to his IMDB page...
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvyny0fUTF1qa1vdfo1_r2_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 22, 2010, 10:12:42 PM
Quote
And I still say Clancy Brown as Marcone. 

I love Clancy Brown, but I'd cast him for Hendricks before I'd cast him for Marcone. Clancy's too big, in body and personality. I'd cast Ron Perlman before Clancy, and Ron's still way too big for the part.

Marcone's a snake, sleek, quiet, and hitting WAY above his weight class. In his own way, Marcone's every bit a "badass grandpa" as Ebenezer, and the two of them would reach an "adequate understanding of each other" upon meeting, no gunfire or soulgaze required.

Andy Garcia's way too good-looking for Marcone, but I still read him closer than Brown.

Marcone is Quiet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 22, 2010, 10:14:10 PM
What about Lee Pace from Pushing Daisies for Harry? He's 1.91 cm according to his IMDB page...
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvyny0fUTF1qa1vdfo1_r2_500.jpg)

Just when I thought I was out of my bunk...they pull me back in.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dilking on March 23, 2010, 12:11:40 AM
I'd put John Shea (Lex Luther from Adv. of Lois & Clark) as Marcone.

Even reading the books, he always came to mind for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vulcanisik on March 23, 2010, 12:17:40 AM
I'd put John Shea (Lex Luther from Adv. of Lois & Clark) as Marcone.

Even reading the books, he always came to mind for me.

I could definitely see that for him.

I could also see Gabriel Byrne as Marcone, he was the Father in Stigmata.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 23, 2010, 12:36:24 AM
Gabriel Byrne as Marcone is an excellent choice.

Now that I think about it, I kinda like Alfred Molina for the part too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dilking on March 23, 2010, 06:05:23 AM
I would see Alfred Molina more as the Merlin  (Look at the previews for Sorcerer's Apprentice... if that isn't Molina auditioning for the role, I don't know what is!) :)

Here's kind of a reverse to this... what part in the Dresdenverse would you give to Christopher Walken??

 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 23, 2010, 06:10:41 AM
Christopher Walken?

Nicodemus. Arthur Langtry. ...

And maybe Mouse's voiceover.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vulcanisik on March 23, 2010, 11:22:44 AM
Christopher Walken?

Nicodemus. Arthur Langtry. ...

And maybe Mouse's voiceover.

Uh... Walken could be Mac. They could maybe let Mac talk a bit more but still be the mysterious old sometimes insightful bartender.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 23, 2010, 08:38:43 PM
Quote
Uh... Walken could be Mac. They could maybe let Mac talk a bit more but still be the mysterious old sometimes insightful bartender.

The massive gruff left furrows in the ceiling as it walked out. I tried to get my breathing started again, though my heart just wouldn't stop. Murphy took a couple of tries to get her gun reholstered.

Mac brought over three bottles, and kept one for himself. He pulled the top off, and raised the bottle. "Bravely done." Mac took a slug and furrowed his brow.

"But you could have used more cowbell."



The chair splintered over Morgan's head, and he just dropped. The storm was brewing, and I was running out of time. Mac gave me a look. "Council's gonna be pissed," he said.

"Mac, I need to borrow your car." Mac nodded, reached into his apron and pulled out ... a bottle of beer.

"Mac?"

"This bottle of beer was brewed by the first company in America to brew beer. Your mother and I ran from the wardens for five years, during which time she kept the beer hidden. After she passed on, I hid this cold, uncomfortable hunk of glass up my ass for two years. And now, little man, I give this bottle to you. "

The damnedest thing was the bottle actually started the car....

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 23, 2010, 08:54:28 PM
The chair splintered over Morgan's head, and he just dropped. The storm was brewing, and I was running out of time. Mac gave me a look. "Council's gonna be pissed," he said.

"Mac, I need to borrow your car." Mac nodded, reached into his apron and pulled out ... a bottle of beer.

"Mac?"

"This bottle of beer was brewed by the first company in America to brew beer. Your mother and I ran from the wardens for five years, during which time she kept the beer hidden. After she passed on, I hid this cold, uncomfortable hunk of glass up my ass for two years. And now, little man, I give this bottle to you. "

The damnedest thing was the bottle actually started the car....



*bow*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on March 30, 2010, 05:27:35 AM
This is how I see it in my head

Harry - zachary quinto (yes, sylar. if you've seen the guy on heroes and the star trek movie you know he can do "grumpy and nerd")
Murphy - nikki aycox (perfect type casting and if you've seen her on dark blue and supernatural you get it)
butters- the kid who played McLovin in Superbad
kincaid - christian kane (looks like he might shoot you, or at least deck you at any given time)
Morgan -Rade Serbedzija (played boris the blade in "snatch)
Eb- Robert duvall (circa secondhand lions)
Molly- taylor momsen (tries to be edgy teen but she'll always be cindy-lou who on some level, kinda mirrors how harry views molly)
Nicodemus- lambert wilson (played the merovignion in matrix part 2)
Mavra- Tilda swinton made up all corpsey-like
luccio(younger version)-Alexa Davalos because hey, evil dimples
Lash/Lasciel- Kate Beahan
Billy the werewolf-Ryan Merriman Laugh if you want but he could pull of the transition from green kid to seasoned fighter of the big bad.
Marcone-neal mcdonough (played sharp-eyed mobster in walking tall) or titus welliver
justin-malcolm mcdowell
Sanya-Chiwetel Ejiofor
Ms. Guard-Tricia Helfer
Leanan sidhe-Christina Hendricks
the gatekeeper- Ian Mc("C***sucker!")shane cause his voice fits the hearty laugh scene involving harry's bandaged head.
Martha Liberty- can we get Oprah?
injun joe- graham greene
The merlin- Terrence "kneel before ZOD!" Stamp, just picture him looking annoyed with harry.
peabody- Peter Macnicol imagine him yelling "THE END IS NIGH!DRESDEN'S GONE WARLOC!"
Elaine- Anna Torv (from fringe)
Susan- Emmanuelle vaugier

the White and red court- hell, cast real pornstars!

Michael- started out picturing treat williams but he may be too old now, probably nathan fillion now
Thomas- I have absolutely no friggin idea

...and Bruce Campbell as the voice of Bob

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zankaru Zelladonii on March 30, 2010, 08:38:06 AM

Morgan-- Alan Rickman    You need menace.  the problem is that before Turn Coat Morgan has few dimensions.



Hahaha.... great, now every time I re-read the books im going to have rickmans voice stuck in my head at the morgan parts.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on March 30, 2010, 10:26:34 AM
Thomas- I have absolutely no friggin idea

You obviously did not see my post with the pic of Matt Bomer:

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

Just look... it will only take a moment and you will know what it means when they say "got the vapors." ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on March 30, 2010, 04:19:19 PM
*glares*

*turns around and stomps back to her bunk*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on March 30, 2010, 06:44:51 PM
*glares*

*turns around and stomps back to her bunk*

OCCUPIED!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on March 30, 2010, 07:04:16 PM
Here's kind of a reverse to this... what part in the Dresdenverse would you give toChristopher Walken??

If we can have him at bout the timeframe of King of New York, Marcone.

I saw him on stage a couple of weeks ago. He has phenomenal charisma and presence.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on March 30, 2010, 07:04:52 PM
Uh... Walken could be Mac. They could maybe let Mac talk a bit more but still be the mysterious old sometimes insightful bartender.

I have recently come round to the position that the person to play Mac is Tom Waits.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on March 30, 2010, 07:06:08 PM

Hahaha.... great, now every time I re-read the books im going to have rickmans voice stuck in my head at the morgan parts.

Doesn't work for me; I still see Morgan as Rutger Hauer in 1984 or so.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: meh on March 30, 2010, 07:39:27 PM

Nick Brimble
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on March 31, 2010, 02:40:18 AM
*glares*

*turns around and stomps back to her bunk*

I need that bunk... I'm reading Blood Rites and I'm to the scene in the cavern so you can imagine what I'm seeing in my mindscape. *swoons*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ACiDuS on March 31, 2010, 03:39:54 AM
It's these guys for me:

Harry- Paul Blackthorne.  Was perfect casting imo, about the only thing the tv show did right.

Murphy- Murphy is Laura Linney for me.  If only she could become 5-10 years younger for storm front!

Thomas- I've always pictured the white court as the flawless china doll type.  For me he has always resembled Jude Law...whats more, Law could pull off the effortless swuave thing.

Morgan-- I don't know why, but I've always pictured him as kris kristofferson.  There is that mix of venom yet you know underneath he is one of the good guys.  He had that 'been there, done it' vibe going in blade too.

Lara Raith-- Mila Kunis or Megan Fox.  If they wanted her slightly older, Angelina Jolie or Monica Belucci.  This character just needs to ooze sex and power.
Susan-- Roselyn Sanchez
Bob -- Voiced by Stephen Fry.  Needs the sarcasm and the wit in the voice.   Would be superb.
Butters-- Needs the geek factor.  I think Zach Braff would be great as butters.
Michael--  Needs a severity, but also the ability to really act out such a pure character.  For me he would be great portrayed by Viggo Mortensen.

Nicodemus -- Has always been Udo Kier for me.  Seriously, google him.  He has the total look, with an otherworldly presence about him.   
Kincaid --  I've always pictured him as Benicio Del Toro.
Faerie Queens-- Think it would be fantastic to have Cate Blanchett portray both.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ZDP189 on March 31, 2010, 04:36:12 AM
Quote
Harry- Paul Blackthorne.  Was perfect casting imo, about the only thing the tv show did right.

Murphy- Murphy is Laura Linney for me.  If only she could become 5-10 years younger for storm front!

Thomas- I've always pictured the white court as the flawless china doll type.  For me he has always resembled Jude Law...whats more, Law could pull off the effortless swuave thing.

Morgan-- I don't know why, but I've always pictured him as kris kristofferson.  There is that mix of venom yet you know underneath he is one of the good guys.  He had that 'been there, done it' vibe going in blade too.

Lara Raith-- Mila Kunis or Megan Fox.  If they wanted her slightly older, Angelina Jolie or Monica Belucci.  This character just needs to ooze sex and power.
Susan-- Roselyn Sanchez
Bob -- Voiced by Stephen Fry.  Needs the sarcasm and the wit in the voice.   Would be superb.
Butters-- Needs the geek factor.  I think Zach Braff would be great as butters.
Michael--  Needs a severity, but also the ability to really act out such a pure character.  For me he would be great portrayed by Viggo Mortensen.

Nicodemus -- Has always been Udo Kier for me.  Seriously, google him.  He has the total look, with an otherworldly presence about him.   
Kincaid --  I've always pictured him as Benicio Del Toro.
Faerie Queens-- Think it

would be fantastic to have Cate Blanchett portray both.

Ladies and gentlemen, with the exception of Nicodemus and Lara, I believe we have found our casting director.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: meh on March 31, 2010, 05:35:14 AM
Nick Brimble for Nicodemus
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zankaru Zelladonii on March 31, 2010, 06:25:29 AM
Doesn't work for me; I still see Morgan as Rutger Hauer in 1984 or so.

I know it does not work, but that is why it got stuck in my head.



It's these guys for me:

Harry- Paul Blackthorne.  Was perfect casting imo, about the only thing the tv show did right.

Murphy- Murphy is Laura Linney for me.  If only she could become 5-10 years younger for storm front!

Thomas- I've always pictured the white court as the flawless china doll type.  For me he has always resembled Jude Law...whats more, Law could pull off the effortless swuave thing.

Morgan-- I don't know why, but I've always pictured him as kris kristofferson.  There is that mix of venom yet you know underneath he is one of the good guys.  He had that 'been there, done it' vibe going in blade too.

Lara Raith-- Mila Kunis or Megan Fox.  If they wanted her slightly older, Angelina Jolie or Monica Belucci.  This character just needs to ooze sex and power.
Susan-- Roselyn Sanchez
Bob -- Voiced by Stephen Fry.  Needs the sarcasm and the wit in the voice.   Would be superb.
Butters-- Needs the geek factor.  I think Zach Braff would be great as butters.
Michael--  Needs a severity, but also the ability to really act out such a pure character.  For me he would be great portrayed by Viggo Mortensen.

Nicodemus -- Has always been Udo Kier for me.  Seriously, google him.  He has the total look, with an otherworldly presence about him.   
Kincaid --  I've always pictured him as Benicio Del Toro.
Faerie Queens-- Think it would be fantastic to have Cate Blanchett portray both.

GOOD LORD, MAN!

Its like you have Intellectus when it comes to casting. (At least on looks, I only know half of those actors)

Zach braff as butters? Yes.
Stephen fry as bob? Hell yes!
Viggo Mortensen as michael? <see first line above>
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 01, 2010, 10:16:18 AM

Thomas- I've always pictured the white court as the flawless china doll type.  For me he has always resembled Jude Law...whats more, Law could pull off the effortless swuave thing.


*dies*


...Can Robert Downey Jr. fit anywhere? And Johnny Depp?

haha.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on April 01, 2010, 10:22:09 AM
Dunno why, but I'm suddenly seeing Simon Pegg as Butters. Unfortunately, he's 5'10".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 01, 2010, 01:16:20 PM
Dunno why, but I'm suddenly seeing Simon Pegg as Butters. Unfortunately, he's 5'10".

that's actually quite interesting.. but.,. yeah, there's that.

I keep on seeing Zach Galifianakis as Butters after seeing him in Tru Calling. but he's 5'8, so...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: horrorhack13 on April 01, 2010, 03:17:00 PM
(http://www.all-pictures.org/celebrities/d/231623-2/Josh+Duhamel+e26.jpg) Josh Duhamel as Harry?

I think he looks like the cover for white night... dont know how tall he is but meh
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on April 01, 2010, 03:49:04 PM
Having just watched Charlie's Angels again, Crispin Glover for Madrigal Raith.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on April 01, 2010, 09:29:32 PM
I keep on seeing Zach Galifianakis as Butters after seeing him in Tru Calling. but he's 5'8, so...

Also Zach Galifianakis is a bit...thick for the role. Butters is supposed to be tiny, like a buck-ten soaking wet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 02, 2010, 03:05:57 AM
Also Zach Galifianakis is a bit...thick for the role. Butters is supposed to be tiny, like a buck-ten soaking wet.

mmmm. (http://www.wvah.com/programs/trucalling/zachgalifianakis.jpg)
yeah, maybe, but that's my mental image when I was reading the books. idk why, lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cstanley1976 on April 02, 2010, 04:23:58 AM
How about either Phil or Lem from Better off Ted as Butters.  Phil is the short white guy and Lem is the tall black guy but I honestly think either could play Butters.  In this case I don't care about skin color of Butters.  I can picture both of them yelling "Polka will never die!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: I Am WonderCow on April 07, 2010, 11:00:06 PM
Dresden:
Joe Flanigan - Not as tall as Harry (but then again, who is?) but DAMN does he look the part.
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Global+Green+USA+3rd+Annual+Pre+Oscar+Party+2Q79jTRyx46l.jpg

Lee Pace - Some of you might recognize him as the Pie Maker, from Pushing Daisies.
http://blog.newsok.com/television/files/2009/03/lee-pace.jpg

John Cusack - And he's even a Chicago native
http://www.pingceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/john-cusack.jpg

Thomas:
Jonathan Rhys Meyers - If that picture doesn't scream Thomas Raith, I don't know what does.
http://thebosh.com/archives/Jonathan%20Rhys-Meyers%2011.jpg

Murphy:
Elisha Cuthbert - She's 5'2" and perhaps the foxiest woman ALIVE.
http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2006/08/elisha-cuthbert-jeans.jpg

Michael:
Christopher Meloni -
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Christopher-Meloni-Photograph-C10052254.jpeg

Susan:
Leonor Varela - She's got "sexy hispanic chick" on lockdown
http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/36/11/0000023611_20060921180639.jpg

Ebeneezar:
Brendan Gleeson - Some of you may know him as Mad Eye Moody. I remember him as the badass best friend from Braveheart.
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/old_leaky/images/actors/Brendan%20Gleeson.jpg

The Archive:
Elle Fanning - She's got that cute/creepy thing going on.
http://www.childstarlets.com/lobby/bios/portraits/elle_fanning15.jpg

That's all I've thought up for the time being. I'll update as I think of characters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: meh on April 07, 2010, 11:14:19 PM
Dresden:
Joe Flanigan - Not as tall as Harry (but then again, who is?) but DAMN does he look the part.
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Global+Green+USA+3rd+Annual+Pre+Oscar+Party+2Q79jTRyx46l.jpg

A little too round-faced and cherubic cheeked for my image of Harry.
Quote
Thomas:
Jonathan Rhys Meyers - If that picture doesn't scream Thomas Raith, I don't know what does.
http://thebosh.com/archives/Jonathan%20Rhys-Meyers%2011.jpg

I thought Thomas was supposed to look masculine though?   ;)

Quote
Murphy:
Elisha Cuthbert - She's 5'2" and perhaps the foxiest woman ALIVE.
http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2006/08/elisha-cuthbert-jeans.jpg

Cute, but Murphy is more about the /fierce/ personality, no?

Quote
Michael:
Christopher Meloni -
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Christopher-Meloni-Photograph-C10052254.jpeg

The fivehead could work.

Quote
Susan:
Leonor Varela - She's got "sexy hispanic chick" on lockdown
http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/36/11/0000023611_20060921180639.jpg

Not bad.   I'd want to see a shot with a little less "coquette"- mannerism, though.


Quote
Ebeneezar:
Brendan Gleeson - Some of you may know him as Mad Eye Moody. I remember him as the badass best friend from Braveheart.
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/old_leaky/images/actors/Brendan%20Gleeson.jpg

Has he ever played a role with big gravitas?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: I Am WonderCow on April 07, 2010, 11:31:13 PM

Has he ever played a role with big gravitas?


Brendan Gleeson's a phenomenal actor, to tell you the truth. Watch him in In Bruges.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: meh on April 07, 2010, 11:41:12 PM
Brendan Gleeson's a phenomenal actor, to tell you the truth. Watch him in In Bruges.

I have, thanks for the reminder.   
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kelvor on April 08, 2010, 03:32:38 AM
My new favourite casting choice would be actress Krysten Pellerin for Murphy.
She's got the look, and the attitude, and recently played a similar character on Canadian tv series Republic of Doyle. Which you should all check out, it's Awesome.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1431540736/nm2115995 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1431540736/nm2115995)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: meh on April 08, 2010, 04:58:55 PM

^That could almost work for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dawnmist on April 08, 2010, 09:10:25 PM
Hello -

I usually lurk more than post, but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in for what it's worth on a couple of the characters.  I have always pictured Butters as a little guy like Danny Strong -  the short, Jewish guy who played Jonathan Levinson, one of the mad trio of sorcerers during one of the Buffy the Vampire seasons.  As for Bob's voice?  I've always heard him in my mind as John Cleese of Monty Python fame.  He has the British Accent and the risque range to pull off the naughtiness when required  ;).  As for Susan - I've always kinda pictured her as a Roselyn Sanchez, who played agent Elena Delgado in Without a Trace.  She's Hispanic with the high cheekbones and she can play smart and savvy.

Just throwing that out there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ColdWinterWind on April 09, 2010, 03:44:21 AM
Gawd, there's some truly inspired casting ideas.

My own small contribution -
Telly Savalas as Gentleman John Marcone

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2nqeder.png)

And I know he's all corpse-ified and such, but whenever I read Kincaid, I see
Lee Van Cleef
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2ym69tw.png)

(Just exchange the six-shooter with a Hechler & Koch MSG90A1)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Justslayer on April 10, 2010, 03:20:47 AM
Being an addict of BOTH Harry Dresdon and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I gotta say James Marsters.  His real hair is curly, although it would have to probably be straightened a tiny bit for it to be Harry's.  And yeah, I know he's not that tall(but lifts would help), and we KNOW he can play a sarcastic wiseass. hehe:)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Starbeam on April 10, 2010, 03:23:42 AM
Being an addict of BOTH Harry Dresdon and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I gotta say James Marsters.  His real hair is curly, although it would have to probably be straightened a tiny bit for it to be Harry's.  And yeah, I know he's not that tall(but lifts would help), and we KNOW he can play a sarcastic wiseass. hehe:)
Have you heard the audio books?  He narrates them.  And my understanding is that he almost got cast in the TV show.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 10, 2010, 03:43:05 AM
Hello -

I usually lurk more than post, but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in for what it's worth on a couple of the characters.  I have always pictured Butters as a little guy like Danny Strong -  the short, Jewish guy who played Jonathan Levinson, one of the mad trio of sorcerers during one of the Buffy the Vampire seasons. 

I LOVE this.  Love it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Paynesgrey on April 10, 2010, 03:49:07 AM
"Jonathon."  Yeah, that one's dead on for Butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bwleon7 on April 13, 2010, 11:59:38 PM
Harry - David Boreanaz / Nathan Fillion
Thomas Raith - James Marsters ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/ )
Murphy - Eliza Dushku ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0244630/ )
Bob - Bruce Campbell ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0132257/ )
Ivy - Chloe Moretz ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1631269/ )
Mab - Juliet Landau ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0484460/ )
Shiro Yoshimo - George Takei ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001786/ )
Molly Carpenter -
Jared Kincaid - Christian Kane ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0437283/ )
Michael Carpenter -
Anastasia Luccio -
Ebenezar McCoy - Jim Beaver ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0064769/ )
Johnny Marcone -
Donald Morgan - Misha Collins ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0172557/ )
Lara Raith -
Susan Rodriguez - Genevieve Cortese ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1298809/ )
Sanya -
The Leanansidhe -
Maeve -
Elaine Mallory -
Titania -
Aurora -
Lily -
Fix -
Butters -
Toot-Toot -
Carlos Ramirez - 
Nicodemus -



Will update as I think of more
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mficchi on April 14, 2010, 09:39:59 PM
Anyone else think Eric Bana would be a great dresden,
Other Characters would be:

Thomas:  Orlando bloom
Susan: Katherine Bell
Murphy: Julie Bowen
Molly: Chyler Leigh
Bob: Mr. Feeney

I know it's a short list but those are constant characters

I can't really figure out who would be a good michael or Sanya
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: logarithm.and.blues on April 14, 2010, 11:01:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nxHxfB_ElU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nxHxfB_ElU)
8:07 Jim on potential actor for Harry in the hypothetical movie: "I always kinda liked Will Smith, 'cause he has the right attitude."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on April 15, 2010, 01:24:11 AM
I like Will Smith in anything, and have been surprised at my ability to accept him playing a "white" lead character.

Yeah, I know that sounds racist. Tell me you don't get what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: logarithm.and.blues on April 15, 2010, 01:34:59 AM
...you're saying he has that ability to assume the personality of a white person, even though he's black?

Okay, after you answer this question, that's the farthest we're going down racist lane, okay?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on April 15, 2010, 01:37:10 AM
No, I'm saying that he has the ability to bring out the humanity of the character and you actually rise above considering the color of his skin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 15, 2010, 01:39:12 AM
Anyone else think Eric Bana would be a great dresden,
Other Characters would be:

Thomas:  Orlando bloom
Susan: Katherine Bell
Murphy: Julie Bowen
Molly: Chyler Leigh
Bob: Mr. Feeney

I know it's a short list but those are constant characters

I can't really figure out who would be a good michael or Sanya

mmmmm not fond of orlando bloom.


Harry - David Boreanaz / Nathan Fillion
Thomas Raith - James Marsters ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/ )
Shiro Yoshimo - George Takei ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001786/ )
Ebenezar McCoy - Jim Beaver ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0064769/ )
Donald Morgan - Misha Collins ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0172557/ )
Susan Rodriguez - Genevieve Cortese ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1298809/ )


I like this.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: logarithm.and.blues on April 15, 2010, 01:48:11 AM
No, I'm saying that he has the ability to bring out the humanity of the character and you actually rise above considering the color of his skin.
That is a very good point.
I would totally go with Nathan Fillion as Harry; he's got the snark. Boreanaz has the looks, but based on the characters he's portrayed, I can't really imagine Seeley Booth from Bones as Harry.
Totally Misha Collins for Morgan, in terms of personality. Castiel really reminds me of Morgan.
Eliza Dushku... is definitely hot. That's my two cents.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on April 15, 2010, 02:24:28 AM
No, I'm saying that he has the ability to bring out the humanity of the character and you actually rise above considering the color of his skin.

She's right. A truly good actor can excel past his own appearance.  In the Lestat musical an African American actor played Marius (a man of Roman / Celtic descent) and at least in the San Francisco production (the writing was seriously dumbed down in New York) he was fantastic in that role.

   
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dilking on April 15, 2010, 04:52:06 AM
I got a couple of ideas for the White Court:

Thomas - Jonathan Rhys Meyers
(http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/theremoteisland/2009/03/jonathan_rhys_meyers.jpg)

And for Lara - Emmanuelle Vaugier
(http://images.buddytv.com/battleimages/usr100431082/100431082_6eac5d1e-b205-4df5-a21e-c63c1b29c01f-emmanuellevaugier.jpg)

Thoughts??
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on April 15, 2010, 05:21:45 AM
I got a couple of ideas for the White Court:

Thomas - Jonathan Rhys Meyers
(http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/theremoteisland/2009/03/jonathan_rhys_meyers.jpg)


Thoughts??

He's perfect.  I loved him back in Velvet Goldmine.  But can he do an American accent?





Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on April 15, 2010, 06:58:23 AM
You obviously did not see my post with the pic of Matt Bomer:

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

Just look... it will only take a moment and you will know what it means when they say "got the vapors." ;)

I'm sorry Priscillie but I am going to repost this till everyone thinks Matt should play Thomas. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on April 15, 2010, 08:26:39 AM
oooooh yes that's definitely thomas  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 15, 2010, 12:00:18 PM
Clive Owen?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 15, 2010, 12:30:04 PM
I'm sorry Priscillie but I am going to repost this till everyone thinks Matt should play Thomas. :P

Goooooooood morning!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on April 16, 2010, 01:13:24 PM
New Here, but have been a lurker for quite some time. 

I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents... here is what I came up with

Harry - Neil Flynn (Wouldnt have thought of it, but after I read this... damn... fits)
Thomas - Jared Leto (We are looking for an over all pretty boy)
Bianca - Amy Lee of Evanesence
Ramierz - Wilmer Valderama
Marcone - Ray Wise - Dude who plays the Devil in Reaper OR Kurt Fuller (Played Zachariah in Supernatural)
Molly - Hard Choice, I would go with the Ellen Page from Xmen and Hard Candy
Ebenezer - Anthony Hopkins
Bob - Hugh Laurie, or Bruce Cambell
Morgan - Alan Rickman
Nicodemus - Christophen Walken Ala Prophecy

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on April 17, 2010, 12:29:15 AM
oooooh yes that's definitely thomas  :D

And here's another possible Thomas pose by Mr. Bomer:
http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/2442946/matt-bomer-white-suit-02/

White suit just "suits" him. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on April 17, 2010, 12:32:43 AM
And here's another possible Thomas pose by Mr. Bomer:
http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/2442946/matt-bomer-white-suit-02/

White suit just "suits" him. ;)

 :o yes. more please.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 17, 2010, 12:36:35 AM
I was just drooling over that on Twitter.  He looks very White Court, I must say!  Now if only we had a picture reflecting Thomas' household uniform...  Oh wait, we do!

(http://theninemuses.net/junk/shirtlessNeal.jpg) (http://theninemuses.net/junk/shirtlessNeal-lg.jpg)

Edit: Fixed link!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on April 17, 2010, 12:49:54 AM
I was just drooling over that on Twitter.  He looks very White Court, I must say!  Now if only we had a picture reflecting Thomas' household uniform...  Oh wait, we do!

(http://theninemuses.net/junk/shirtlessNeal.jpg) (http://theninemuses.net/junk/shirtlessNeal-lg.jpg)

*finds a bunk to hide in...* Evil Priscillie! ;) <3


Edit: Fixed link!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 17, 2010, 01:50:24 AM
Whoops, the link expired.  All better now!  And you can even click to embiggen.  Life is good.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 17, 2010, 01:56:57 AM
My only objection to Matt Bomer is I've never seen him try to pull off a dark, sultry kind of sexy.  He's cute 'cause he's just made that way, but can he... y'know... go all predator-sexy?  He's just got so much boyish charm, very boy-next-door, all-American kind of cute.  Trying to picture him as Thomas is like... Like seeing Jenna Elfman as Lara.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on April 17, 2010, 02:25:38 AM
My only objection to Matt Bomer is I've never seen him try to pull off a dark, sultry kind of sexy.  He's cute 'cause he's just made that way, but can he... y'know... go all predator-sexy?  He's just got so much boyish charm, very boy-next-door, all-American kind of cute.  Trying to picture him as Thomas is like... Like seeing Jenna Elfman as Lara.

That's what people thought when Tom Cruise was cast as Lestat in Interview with the vampire and surprisingly he pulled it off exactly the way Anne Rice intended (at least according to her Variety article, amazon review, and facebook ranting).

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 17, 2010, 03:23:14 AM
You think Matt Bomer is "boy-next-door"?  Can I move two houses down from you? :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 17, 2010, 03:43:25 AM
*shivers deliciously at the extremely hot picture*

mmm, bunk please.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ColdWinterWind on April 17, 2010, 04:35:18 AM
And you can even click to embiggen.  Life is good.

What?  Just a click?  No foreplay?!?? :o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 17, 2010, 04:36:40 AM
What?  Just a click?  No foreplay?!?? :o

What can I say?  His pixels are very responsive.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on April 17, 2010, 07:10:19 AM
You think Matt Bomer is "boy-next-door"?  Can I move two houses down from you? :D

I keep trying to get my dad to ask his friend if he's related to Matt. They share the same last name and it's just a weird coincidence the only other Bomer I've ever known or heard of was my dad's friend. I keep thinking he has to be atleast his uncle if nothing else. Would make me happy to know I know someone related to him if only through my dad. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: gynji on April 17, 2010, 03:39:45 PM
I think my fiance makes a perfect Harry. That's why I nudged him towards Dresden cosplaying with me by buying him the leather duster.. lol! I just posted the pictures in a different thread. I cosplayed as Murphy, but while reading the books I always pictured her as that chick from Shaun of the Dead.. the girlfriend.. whats-her-face??
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jefe on April 17, 2010, 04:07:37 PM
Seems like everyone wants to skew young; Harry is pushing 40 in Changes and we've got 10 more+ years coming.  That being said, here are some of the faces I see in my head.

Harry: Hugh Laurie, Hugh Laurie, Hugh Laurie
Murphy: Elizabeth Banks has always worked here for me
Thomas: Michael Fassbender, who I wuldn't have thought of without reading this thread. (Sorry Priscillie, I think Bomer is too young)
Susan: Eva Mendes
Michael: Jeff Bridges (I love the idea of The Dude being the Fist of God, and he could do it.  Give him an excuse to lose the belly)
Molly: Blake Lively
Sanya: Djimon Honsou
Morgan: Alan Rickman (He can play disdain like nobody else)
Eb: Robert Duvall (it can be no other, Eb IS Gus McCrae from Lonesome Dove)
Merlin: Donald Sutherland
Nicodemus: Gary Oldman (typecast as a villian, and so what?)
Kincaid: Russell Crowe (when he's fit)
Marcone: Adrian Pasdar (from Heroes)
Ms. Demeter: Tilda Swinton (emotionally vacant, hollow-eyed weirdo)
Ms. Gard: Charlize Theron (actually, insert any tall, blonde, not too skinny competent actress here)
Hendricks: Michael Clarke Duncan (I know in the books he's white, but so what?)
Mab: Heidi Klum (anybody watch Project Runway?  I totally think she could do this)
Lea: Julie Benz
Maeve: Eliza Dushku
Lara: Kate Beckinsale (so she has already done hot brunette vampire - don't fix it if it ain't broke)
Lara's sisters: Megan Fox, Jessica Alba, Natalie Portman
Mac: Bruce Willis (c'mon, you know that works)
Butters: David Krumholtz (the guy from Numb3rs)
Vincent: Eric Szmanda (CSI Las Vegas - I've always liked this guy and it works for me, alternatively he could be Fix)
Luccio: (new body): Milla Jovovich
Lash/Lasciel: Ali Larter

and...
Toot: Justin Timberlake (with CGI shrinking - I think perfect!!)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: logarithm.and.blues on April 17, 2010, 09:34:23 PM
Hugh Laurie needs to be a bit younger to be Harry.
Totally Alan Rickman. He and Hugh Laurie need to switch ages. That would work out better.
Totally Bruce Willis. And I would definitely agree with Dave Krumholtz.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CapnCowl on April 17, 2010, 09:52:20 PM
Obviously David Caruso= Harry.



*Start of Fool Moon*

Murphy: The vic was partially eaten, and there's a large canine footprint near the window.

Harry: Looks like this killer was hungry *puts on shades* like the wolf.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c)




*White Night*

Thomas: Harry! Run! There's a giant purple flying chimp behind you!

Harry: Start the car. We don't have time to *puts on shades* monkey around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c)




*Small Favor*

Molly: Those goat-things were scary!

Harry: Personally, I found them to be a little *puts on shades* gruff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 17, 2010, 09:58:01 PM
Toatlly for sanya, same with nicodemus. and hell yeah with morgan. but i think hugh laurie is too old, and i cant see russel crowe as kincaid, why? cause he has that level of badass and he also is funny, well he is to me,and i cant see russel doing that, but i can see john travolta doing it if he looked like he did and acted like he did in pulp fiction. i actually agree with a lot of these, but i think viggo would be a better michael, and i dont know if anyone else said thiss, but i got to, thomas:brad pitt, but playing it like he did in Burn after reading, just not as over the top, know what more fight clubbish.

Their are to people i can see playing harry other then the tv show dude, hugh jackman, or paul bettany
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on April 17, 2010, 10:33:17 PM
And here's another possible Thomas pose by Mr. Bomer:
http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/2442946/matt-bomer-white-suit-02/

White suit just "suits" him. ;)

*waves her Matt Bomer for Thomas campaign flags high over the chatroom*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 18, 2010, 05:20:23 AM
Obviously David Caruso= Harry.



*Start of Fool Moon*

Murphy: The vic was partially eaten, and there's a large canine footprint near the window.

Harry: Looks like this killer was hungry *puts on shades* like the wolf.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c)




*White Night*

Thomas: Harry! Run! There's a giant purple flying chimp behind you!

Harry: Start the car. We don't have time to *puts on shades* monkey around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c)




*Small Favor*

Molly: Those goat-things were scary!

Harry: Personally, I found them to be a little *puts on shades* gruff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UDWPXrW5c)
okay, that made me lol :p
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ltmcc13 on April 19, 2010, 08:03:11 AM
Ok I've been lurking for awhile and finally decided to join and put my 2 cents in. The fact that I've picked such a contraversial subject to get my feet wet means I'm either crazy,stupid or both, but here goes:

Harry:Timothy Olyphant
Murphy:Elizabeth Rohm
Thomas:Alex O'Loughlin
Susan:Shannyn Sossamon
Luccio/Ana:Claudia Christenson/Mila Kunis
Morgan:Kevin Mckidd
Ivy:Ellie Fanning
Kincaid: Ray Stevenson
Mab:Julie Benz
Lea:Nicole Kidman
Maeve:Amanda Sayfreid
Lara:Rhona Mitra
Lilly:Yavonne Strohavinski
Fix:Nick Stahl
Molly:teenager-Dakota Fanning,young adult-Elisha Cuthbert
Micheal:Kyle Chandler
Charity:Elizabeth Mitchell
Rawlins:Ernie Hudson
Butters:Ian gomez
Sheila/Lash:Amanda Peet/Tricia Helfer
Eb McCoy:Sam Elliot
The Merlin:Donald Sutherland
Bianca:Stana Katic
Marcone:Viggo Mortensen
Gard:Stephanie March
Margaret Lafey:Carla Gugino

I realize that Liam Neeson didn't make it on my list, while he was on everyone else's, because after reading "Changes" I can only see him in one role. He'd look really cool with an eyepatch. :) And that's my dream cast for the Dresdenverse(goes and puts on his Nomex undies for the inevetable flames coming his way)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on April 19, 2010, 05:10:11 PM
Edward Norton for Tilly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: draganmathair on April 19, 2010, 09:35:18 PM
I watched the TV show first so I can not do this, as all I can see are the TV actors.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Seiya234 on April 20, 2010, 04:09:05 AM
When I think of Mab, she sounds like Shara Worden. Here's a sound clip from YouTube.

The song is "The Queen's Rebuke/The Crossing" by the Decemberists. Shara sings the part of an evil faerie queen. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpltQ5S4xxc
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on April 20, 2010, 04:18:46 AM
Martha Liberty - Whoopie FTW!
Merlin - Ian Mckellen, or Christopher Lee
Peabody - Brad Dourif, He played Grima Wormtouge in Two Towers
Gate Keeper - Keith David, he does the voice acting for The Arbiter in Halo 2 and 3, and Captain Anderson in Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2, General Kimsy in Armegeddon, among other things. A little short at 6'2, dark skinned, deep voice little over 50
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on April 20, 2010, 04:26:31 AM
Oprah could work for Martha too... if you had the universes largest movie budget... lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 20, 2010, 10:58:55 AM
Oprah could work for Martha too... if you had the universes largest movie budget... lol

Good Heavens no!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on April 20, 2010, 06:38:40 PM
I have been reading this and figured I would toss my 2cents too.  A lot of people have some great choices!  Here are some of mine.

Harry Dresden - No idea. 
The character in my head will always be the best.  I was good with the casting of Paul Blackthorne though.  He really did act like Harry.

Karrin Murphy – Katee Sackoff
http://www.universal-playback.com/assets/images/0000/6086/katee-sackhoff-as-starbuck-in-battlestar-gallactica.jpg
Of course, I think she is too tall for Murphy, but she’s the right age.

Thomas Raith – Jamie Bamber
http://www.zap2it.com/media/photo/2008-03/37337290.jpg
I have always imagined him in my head for Thomas -- it's a BSG thing (*blush*).  But Matthew Bomer is a great cast idea too!  I can see that also.

Lara Raith -Famke Janssen
http://www.zimbio.com/Famke+Janssen/articles/6E3bET1wMaL/Famke+Janssen
She has the height, looks, age, and range to play Lara Raith.  Granted she could be Queen Mab too.

Will/Billy - Charlie Hunnam
http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/sons-of-anarchy-jacks.jpg
I think he has the right build, although he may be too tall (over 6 feet). 
(Even though I secretly would want Jason Momoa, just so I can see him strip down to become a werewolf, even though he's totally wrong for the part -- hey a girl can dream right? :)  http://www.gateworld.net/news/graphics/atl_s4cast04.jpg )

Michael Carpenter – Nathan Fillion
http://images.glam.com/glampress/entertainment/03_16_09/nathan_fillion.jpg
I’ve always pictured him in my head when I read the books.

Charity Carpenter - Amanda Tappings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Tapping
I don’t know why but she has always been Charity to me.  Amanda is super tall (5’9-10).  Right age and can you see her storming Arctis Tor in chain mail!

Molly Carpenter – Jessica Brooks
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1140434/
Molly in my head looks alot like this girl. Although she may be too old now (age 29), although she would work as Lucio in the new body.

Susan Rodriguez - Erica Cerra
http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Erica-Cerra1.jpg
Even Jim Butcher has said this is Susan to him.  I have to agree!

Sanya - Chiwetel Ejiofor
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0252230/
Hands down! He has always been who I thought of for Sanya.

Lash/Lasiel – Anna Torv
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YPCf8JFgUdI/SWextxoDfzI/AAAAAAAAKQE/26so50gvXb8/s576/Fringe_Anna_Torv1t.jp
Or she could be Murphy too, again…maybe too tall, but the age is right

Donald Morgan -Rade Serbedzija
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0784884/
It's almost uncanning how he looks like the description.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cymbaline on April 21, 2010, 10:00:32 AM
Don't know if anyone has mentioned him before, but I'm picturing this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE)
as Sanya.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on April 21, 2010, 12:55:44 PM
Well, that just made my day.... purrrr!  Yeah, he's Sanya!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on April 21, 2010, 05:10:53 PM
You know, Honestly for Hendricks, you could just say <Insert generic white wrestling star here>

And for Bob's voice, Jack Nicholson, Robin Williams, Will Smith would probably be able to do it really well too...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 21, 2010, 05:16:04 PM
Don't know if anyone has mentioned him before, but I'm picturing this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE)
as Sanya.

Those commercials are some of my favorites of the last several months.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 22, 2010, 01:35:55 AM
Don't know if anyone has mentioned him before, but I'm picturing this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE)
as Sanya.

Five minutes later, I haven't stopped laughing.  I love those ads, and this ads yet another dimension of hilarity!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 22, 2010, 01:44:39 AM
Changes spoilers:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Uilos on April 22, 2010, 01:51:29 AM
Changes spoilers:

(click to show/hide)

can't


stop


laughing!


Ok, I found one that may be interesting, but Stepehn Farrelly, a WWE wrestler, would make a decent Hendricks:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Este_es_Sheamus.jpg/450px-Este_es_Sheamus.jpg)

Chop that hair down and remove the beard, you got Cujo incarnate :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 22, 2010, 02:06:13 AM
YOU MADE ME IMAGINE HENDRICKS IN BOXING UNDEROOS.

I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THIS.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Myyrdn Eopia on April 22, 2010, 02:20:59 AM
ROFLMAO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: iago on April 22, 2010, 02:21:08 AM
YOU MADE ME IMAGINE HENDRICKS IN BOXING UNDEROOS.

I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THIS.

That's what he wears during his time off. With Gard. In her Princess Leia bikini.

What?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 22, 2010, 02:31:22 AM
*brain bubbles out of ears*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 22, 2010, 02:36:41 AM

Will/Billy - Charlie Hunnam
http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/sons-of-anarchy-jacks.jpg
I think he has the right build, although he may be too tall (over 6 feet). 


Oddly, I actually see more of Kincaid in him than Will, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Uilos on April 22, 2010, 02:37:38 AM
*brain bubbles out of ears*

I do believe our job is done here, Fred. Now I figure she's got 10 more minutes until she reboots and Eyebrows the general area on reflex
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 22, 2010, 02:42:43 AM
I do believe our job is done here, Fred. Now I figure she's got 10 more minutes until she reboots and Eyebrows the general area on reflex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djZFHTa6TfA
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lionheart on April 22, 2010, 02:44:16 AM
wow I will never be able to burn this image out of my mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Uilos on April 22, 2010, 02:45:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djZFHTa6TfA

....my car was on that planet...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on April 22, 2010, 02:48:23 AM
(http://www.malemodel.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/joseph-pearson-male-model-12-150x150.jpg) Joseph Pearson as Sanya.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 22, 2010, 02:56:11 AM
...I'll be in my bunk.  And so will he.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mickey Finn on April 22, 2010, 03:50:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djZFHTa6TfA

This allows me to say "Random weird helmet officer No 5" again.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on April 22, 2010, 04:18:47 AM
I still see Whoopie as the PERFECT Martha Liberty. Especially in this scene...

The first was a woman better than six feet tall. She wore her grey hair coiled
in a net at the base of her neck. She had already put on her robes of office,
black silk nearly the same color as her skin, and her purple stole echoed the
gems at her throat. Her eyebrows were still dark, and she had one of them
arched as she regarded Ebenezar, then me, with a completely unamused
expression. When she spoke, her voice was a low, rich alto. "Lollygagging
skunkwallows?"
"Matty—" Ebenezar began, laughter still flavoring his words. "You know how
I get when I'm talking about Council politics."
"Don't you 'Matty' me, Ebenezar McCoy," she snapped. She looked past my
old mentor to focus on me. "Wizard Dresden, I am less than amused with
your lack of respect toward the White Council."
I lifted my chin and glared down at the woman without meeting her eyes. It's
a tough trick to learn, but if
you're motivated enough you can do it. "That's a coincidence. I'm not terribly
amused with you spying on me."
The black woman's eyes flashed, but Ebenezar cut in before either of us could
gather any more steam. "Harry Dresden," he said dryly, "Meet Martha
Liberty."
She shot him a look and said pointedly, "He's arrogant, Ebenezar.
Dangerous."
I snorted. "That's every wizard ever."
Martha continued as if I hadn't spoken. "Bitter. Angry. Obsessive."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on April 22, 2010, 04:23:20 AM
How about Tyrese for Sanya?

(http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Tyrese-jr01.jpg)

He's got the whole troubled past look going.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on April 22, 2010, 04:53:50 AM
Um. No. I like the Old Spice Guy.

Priscellie, when you're done with him, would you send him to a resort to rest for a week, please? I'll pick him up there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on April 22, 2010, 01:49:11 PM
Will/Billy - Charlie Hunnam
http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/sons-of-anarchy-jacks.jpg
I think he has the right build, although he may be too tall (over 6 feet). 

Oddly, I actually see more of Kincaid in him than Will, lol.

Oh yeah!  Totally!  And he's got the British accent to boot! 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Grim on April 23, 2010, 12:28:33 PM
Since there was mention of Sanya and Old Spice commercials, thought I had to just jump in with this:

Sanya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on April 23, 2010, 02:57:42 PM
Oooookay then....  averts eyes from guy in commercial and walks away slowwwwly and nonchalantly.  *ROTFLMAO*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 23, 2010, 04:15:20 PM
Since there was mention of Sanya and Old Spice commercials, thought I had to just jump in with this:

Sanya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k)

WHAT THE HELL?  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on April 23, 2010, 04:51:30 PM
LMAO!
P,p,p,p,p,Poweeeeeeeeeer!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 23, 2010, 04:52:36 PM
Since there was mention of Sanya and Old Spice commercials, thought I had to just jump in with this:

Sanya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k)

LMAO. OMG, this guy freaks me out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 23, 2010, 06:07:44 PM
I hereby declare that those should be the only commercials ever aired, ever again.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 23, 2010, 07:21:23 PM
Now I think the voice is wrong, but the guy who plays Sam Winchester on Supernatural looks like the US Cover art picture of Dresden. Add the fact that he is 6'4" and he actually dwarfs most other actors and that he is the appropriate age to play Dresden in Stormfront and I really like him for Harry.

(http://reneesbookaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/changes.jpg)

(http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/rsz/434/x/x/x/medias/nmedia/18/35/84/18/18687923.jpg)

(http://img1.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n28/n141912.jpg)

(http://media.knin.com/images/knin_supernatural_cast.jpg)

(http://i43.tower.com/images/mm112217092/turn-coat-novel-dresden-files-jim-butcher-hardcover-cover-art.jpg)

(http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/sam-winchester.jpg)



(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Gw5PoDJO9lM/SN6OUSjQfcI/AAAAAAAABQc/575mkugmQLE/s400/supernatural.jpg)

Wanted to give a few examples.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 23, 2010, 07:27:37 PM
I dunno... He's young for it, though maybe not for "Storm Front" Harry.  But every time I look at him, I see Dean from Gilmore Girls.  Like, he'll be in the movie version, walking down the streets of Chicago in his trench, and I'll be thinking, "Shouldn't you be stocking the corn starch at Doose's?"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 23, 2010, 07:40:06 PM
Haven't watched gilmore girls but just started watching supernatural and caught up through 4 seasons and I can't help thinking he'd make a good dresden every time I watch an episode. Especially with his character starting down the darkside.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 23, 2010, 07:46:23 PM
im ify on him, i mean sure he is the right height and looks like harry a little bit, but he is young, good for early harry, but i cant see that guy being a smart ass. then again i only saw one episode of supernatural
really in my mind their are only two people i can see playing harry, sure they are getting a little older, but they would be great for DM up, paul bettany and hugh jackman, and again ify on hugh. most people say wtf paul?, but ive seen him in a couple movies where he wheres a big trench and is all bad ass and he does funny well, if anyone saw him inkheart, well thats how i see harry,except you know with black hair. but that dude would work too, if he can be funny, he looks the part so i would say yeah if he can be funny
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 23, 2010, 08:01:29 PM
He's had flashes of funny but the character is not necressarily all that funny. A good actor should be able to play different types of characters though and that is why these casting choices we often make are pretty limited. We assume that an actor can not play a character a certain way.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 23, 2010, 08:09:14 PM
A good point, i have not seen him in enough things really to tell, but he does look the part i suppose
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 23, 2010, 11:31:46 PM
Now I think the voice is wrong, but the guy who plays Sam Winchester on Supernatural looks like the US Cover art picture of Dresden. Add the fact that he is 6'4" and he actually dwarfs most other actors and that he is the appropriate age to play Dresden in Stormfront and I really like him for Harry.


Jared Padelecki is adorable! I can't see him as ever playing Harry, but yeah, he does have most of Harry's attributes down pat. And if anyone has purchased Welcome to The Jungle, and is also an obsessive fan of Supernatural, your eyes will bug out at the sight the Harry on the cover of the hardback novel. The artist seems to have used Jared's image as a basis for Harry.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 23, 2010, 11:59:50 PM

Jared Padelecki is adorable! I can't see him as ever playing Harry, but yeah, he does have most of Harry's attributes down pat. And if anyone has purchased Welcome to The Jungle, and is also an obsessive fan of Supernatural, your eyes will bug out at the sight the Harry on the cover of the hardback novel. The artist seems to have used Jared's image as a basis for Harry.




Here's the cover art, she is talking about:

(http://eplteen.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dresden1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 12:04:12 AM

Here's the cover art, she is talking about:

(http://eplteen.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dresden1.jpg)

Yup, that's it! Kinda eerie, isn't it?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 24, 2010, 12:26:03 AM
Yup, that's it! Kinda eerie, isn't it?

it's the hair that makes it similar, imho.

jared *might* do good snark. I think he can.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 24, 2010, 01:15:33 AM
When his hair is slicked back and looks short, it looks pretty similar to comic Harry, too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on April 24, 2010, 02:05:17 AM





Here's the cover art, she is talking about:

(http://eplteen.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dresden1.jpg)
reminds me more of ashton kutcher, when he's more scruufy. i saw a little bit of the butterfly effect , and thought he could pull off  a good scowl with those eyes, but he's always in roles of the goofy guy.

(http://images.movie-gazette.com/gallery/albums/People/ashton+kutcher.jpg)

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1666488832/nm0005110
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on April 24, 2010, 02:26:02 AM
I think if Ashton Kutcher was ever even rumored to be involved in a Dresden movie an 'accident' would have to be arranged...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on April 24, 2010, 02:27:56 AM
lol i don't want himto star, he's just what that cover reminded me of. i don't even like him as an actor
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 02:56:00 AM


reminds me more of ashton kutcher, when he's more scruufy. i saw a little bit of the butterfly effect , and thought he could pull off  a good scowl with those eyes, but he's always in roles of the goofy guy.

(http://images.movie-gazette.com/gallery/albums/People/ashton+kutcher.jpg)

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1666488832/nm0005110


Yick, no :( A million times no!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 24, 2010, 03:32:42 AM

Yick, no :( A million times no!

Agreed. Harry in no way looks...for lack of a better term...effeminate. As girly as the Sam character can seem in Supernatural (no offense ladies or Murph!), he can come off as a hard ass and the square-jawed look always screams manly. I juts saw a show this weekend how George Washington took pains to appear more square jawed bc it makes people think that you have more leader and tough guy qualities.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 03:41:47 AM
Agreed. Harry in no way looks...for lack of a better term...effeminate. As girly as the Sam character can seem in Supernatural (no offense ladies or Murph!), he can come off as a hard ass and the square-jawed look always screams manly.

Despite the Dean character's many continuous attempts to prove his brother otherwise :)

Quote
I juts saw a show this weekend how George Washington took pains to appear more square jawed bc it makes people think that you have more leader and tough guy qualities.

Was it on the History Channel? They did a special a while back on life and death masks (heh. no kidding) of influential figures in history, like Lincoln, Washington and Shakespeare. When they did Washington's, they actually narrowed down how many teeth he actually had left and what sort of dentures he wore when he had his life mask done.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 03:55:13 AM
And streaming off from the last thing I posted on, this might be a little out there, but I'm reading a fanfic (that is agonizingly slow in updating). It's a crossover between Supernatural and the DV, with spoilers up to season 5, and Turn Coat (I think.) Anyway, the chick writing the story has a banner made, with a picture of Jared Padelecki, Jensen Ackles, and Hugh Jackman.... because apparently, Hugh Jackman is who she sees when she thinks of Harry.

A bit of a stretch there, or no?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dilking on April 24, 2010, 04:01:57 AM
After seeing him in "The Prestige", I can definitely see him as Harry, but the tough part would be casting Thomas... Who looks like Hugh Jackman's brother in Hollywood today?


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 04:12:30 AM
After seeing him in "The Prestige", I can definitely see him as Harry, but the tough part would be casting Thomas... Who looks like Hugh Jackman's brother in Hollywood today?




Bloody hell. I'm gonna find a pic of hugh jackman and run a facial recognition thingy on myheritage.com. who knows, I might luck out :)

(Although for some reason, Keith Urban just popped into my head)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 04:19:08 AM
After seeing him in "The Prestige", I can definitely see him as Harry, but the tough part would be casting Thomas... Who looks like Hugh Jackman's brother in Hollywood today?

Quote
Bloody hell. I'm gonna find a pic of hugh jackman and run a facial recognition thingy on myheritage.com. who knows, I might luck out :)

(Although for some reason, Keith Urban just popped into my head)

Well. I tried. This is what I got. Although if you use any different image any number of times, you'll get a million different things.

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/collage.jpg?t=1272083043)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 24, 2010, 04:42:07 AM

Was it on the History Channel? They did a special a while back on life and death masks (heh. no kidding) of influential figures in history, like Lincoln, Washington and Shakespeare. When they did Washington's, they actually narrowed down how many teeth he actually had left and what sort of dentures he wore when he had his life mask done.


Yep, that was the show I watched.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dilking on April 24, 2010, 04:49:14 AM
Well. I tried. This is what I got. Although if you use any different image any number of times, you'll get a million different things.

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/collage.jpg?t=1272083043)

NOOO!!! Edward Norton can't be Thomas!! He's supposed to be John Taylor in the Nightside series!!! (By Simon R. Green, my companion series to The Dresden Files) ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 05:27:05 AM
NOOO!!! Edward Norton can't be Thomas!! He's supposed to be John Taylor in the Nightside series!!! (By Simon R. Green, my companion series to The Dresden Files) ;D

Then I suggest typing "Hugh Jackman and Keith Urban" into a search engine, preferably Google. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 24, 2010, 12:22:34 PM
Neil Diamond as Thomas is HILARIOUS.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 02:38:13 PM
Neil Diamond as Thomas is HILARIOUS.

*snort* I just find it hilarious that the facial recognition thingy matched Hugh Jackman to Hugh Jackman 100% :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 24, 2010, 02:53:39 PM
Well if I can't have Paul Blackthorne as Harry, I'm going back to Ryan Reynolds.  He used to be the voice in my head before the TV show.  I could just hear him doing the snark.

I mean this Ryan Reynolds:(http://ithinkimdying.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/ryan_reynolds.jpg)
Not so much this Ryan Reynolds:(http://dietrichthrall.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/ryanreynolds.jpg)

He de-buffs quickly between movies, at least.  Which is kind of a shame 'cause DAYUM, Ryan...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 03:02:53 PM
Well if I can't have Paul Blackthorne as Harry, I'm going back to Ryan Reynolds.  He used to be the voice in my head before the TV show.  I could just hear him doing the snark.


I could go with that. Not because he might prove a very cool Harry, but because he's just really pretty to look at. LOL. I always imagined Harry a little scruffier, though, so he'd have to really let his hair grow out and let that five o'clock shadow come in.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 24, 2010, 03:26:09 PM
Well if I can't have Paul Blackthorne as Harry, I'm going back to Ryan Reynolds.  He used to be the voice in my head before the TV show.  I could just hear him doing the snark.

I mean this Ryan Reynolds:(http://ithinkimdying.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/ryan_reynolds.jpg)

Wow.  He looks a great deal like comicverse Harry!  I've never seen him act (except perhaps on the X-Files and Sabrina the Teenage Witch back in the mid-90s), so I reserve judgment until I see him in Green Lantern. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 03:33:58 PM
Wow.  He looks a great deal like comicverse Harry!  I've never seen him act (except perhaps on the X-Files and Sabrina the Teenage Witch back in the mid-90s), so I reserve judgment until I see him in Green Lantern. :D

Priscellie, he was Wade Wilson/Deadpool in Wolverine, and he was in Blade Trinity :) .... Not to mention about a million other movies that I need to sit my butt down to watch over again really soon!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 24, 2010, 03:37:47 PM
Priscellie, he was Wade Wilson/Deadpool in Wolverine, and he was in Blade Trinity :) .... Not to mention about a million other movies that I need to sit my butt down to watch over again really soon!

Yup.  His IMDB page is a whole lot of stuff I wasn't terribly interested in seeing. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 24, 2010, 03:53:31 PM
Yup.  His IMDB page is a whole lot of stuff I wasn't terribly interested in seeing. :D

Well, a lot of his stuff before recently was pretty much aimed at college slackers and fraternities :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 24, 2010, 04:01:25 PM
Huh, he DOES look alot like comic harry, and he can do snark really good, he was great wiseass in  wolverine, he actually would not bother me if he was harry, just needs to get his hair a wee bit longer  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thanatos on April 25, 2010, 11:52:30 AM
I tend to imagine Jamey Sheridan (Randall Flagg from The Stand) as Nicodemus.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 25, 2010, 03:01:38 PM
I can see that actually, i see someone like sean bean or jeremy irons, sure they get type cast as villans but they do it well
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 25, 2010, 03:10:48 PM
I keep seeing the dude who played Imhotep in The Mummy as the Red King.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 25, 2010, 03:19:08 PM
dude! yeah i can totaly see that
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on April 25, 2010, 09:53:10 PM
i still say

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k186/Smallzworld/Sylar.jpg) = harry.

 c'mon its like the perfect storm of geek and grumpy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 25, 2010, 10:04:07 PM
Not an attack on anyone's choices but I don't get how anyone could vote for someone under 6'4" for Harry. I'm decently tall myself and there is a world of difference in being tall vs. average height and it is such a big part of the HArry character that I do not get how anyone could want someone not close to the height.

With 6'4", you could still have inserts to get the character to about 6'5" to 6'6" especially with boots which fits his description better. The height is an important part to me because being tall affects your personality in ways.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 25, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
they can do it be the way they shoot it, if the camera guy's cant make people look tall, a lot of people in holywood wouldnt have a career, the height is important, they would still have to be about six 2 to pull it off, but its doable with a short person.It's a shame robert downey jr. is so short, he would make a great dresden, sure he might be pretty, but a lot of makeup and not working out and he would be fine.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 26, 2010, 12:18:02 AM
they can do it be the way they shoot it, if the camera guy's cant make people look tall, a lot of people in holywood wouldnt have a career, the height is important, they would still have to be about six 2 to pull it off, but its doable with a short person.It's a shame robert downey jr. is so short, he would make a great dresden, sure he might be pretty, but a lot of makeup and not working out and he would be fine.

Harry runs, and he mentioned in Changes that he used to go to the gym. Not to mention his and Murphy's teasing at the very end of the book about the fact that he does work out. Harry may not have Thomas's perfect supernatural physique, but he IS built.

The camera angling thing is a good point, though, it's how they made John Rhys-Davies, Sean Astin, Elijah Wood, Dominic Monaghan and Billy Boyd look so small in comparison to the other actors in The Lord of The Rings.

But I think I agree that it would have to be an actor who is already at least 6'3" or higher. Whoever plays Karrin (I imagine her to be my height, which is 5 feet even) has to be able to crane her neck up and risk neck injury looking at him, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 26, 2010, 01:53:08 AM
lol,thats how i imagine murph, the reason i was atracted to robert being harry is because of the singing detective, and kiss kiss bang bang
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bwleon7 on April 26, 2010, 02:33:51 AM
While I think Hugh Jackman could do it I also have to consider the fact that I very much want thre to be multiple Dersden movies. With that in mind I do think someone 35 or under should take the role. if Dresden files follows the pattern of 3 movies that many seem to be doing then we are looking at about 6 - 8 years  of aging that the actor will have had by the third movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 26, 2010, 02:42:23 AM
While I think Hugh Jackman could do it I also have to consider the fact that I very much want thre to be multiple Dersden movies. With that in mind I do think someone 35 or under should take the role. if Dresden files follows the pattern of 3 movies that many seem to be doing then we are looking at about 6 - 8 years  of aging that the actor will have had by the third movie.

Quick! Everyone start looking for the next big star! And by big, I mean obscenely tall!

.... I should probably mention young, too, shouldn't I?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 26, 2010, 03:26:17 AM
Quick! Everyone start looking for the next big star! And by big, I mean obscenely tall!

.... I should probably mention young, too, shouldn't I?


Which would make Jared a good choice then, eh...?  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 26, 2010, 03:43:40 AM

Which would make Jared a good choice then, eh...?  ;D

Absolutely! And since he and Jensen Ackles actually look alike and play brothers, and Jensen's shorter and older (and prettier, IMO. I love Jared, but I'm a total Jensen girl.), then Jensen can be Thomas. He just needs to grow his hair out longer and dye it pitch black.

That shouldn't actually be a problem for him. Check out this picture:

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/jensen_10InchHero.jpg?t=1272253285)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: panic686 on April 26, 2010, 04:02:14 AM
Absolutely! And since he and Jensen Ackles actually look alike and play brothers, and Jensen's shorter and older (and prettier, IMO. I love Jared, but I'm a total Jensen girl.), then Jensen can be Thomas. He just needs to grow his hair out longer and dye it pitch black.

That shouldn't actually be a problem for him. Check out this picture:

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/jensen_10InchHero.jpg?t=1272253285)


I like that idea. Jensen is about 6-6'1" it claims on imdb (though he looks more like 5'10" next to Jared. They are best friends in real life so that brotherly comradeship should be natural and we know Jensen is good at snark already (Dean is my fave character on Supernatural too being an older brother myself). I like how you think, Tiny!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on April 26, 2010, 04:12:33 AM

I like that idea. Jensen is about 6-6'1" it claims on imdb (though he looks more like 5'10" next to Jared. They are best friends in real life so that brotherly comradeship should be natural and we know Jensen is good at snark already (Dean is my fave character on Supernatural too being an older brother myself). I like how you think, Tiny!

*bows* Thank you, than you :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: draganmathair on April 26, 2010, 07:09:21 PM
I dunno... He's young for it, though maybe not for "Storm Front" Harry.  But every time I look at him, I see Dean from Gilmore Girls.  Like, he'll be in the movie version, walking down the streets of Chicago in his trench, and I'll be thinking, "Shouldn't you be stocking the corn starch at Doose's?"

Yep. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on May 04, 2010, 04:51:50 PM
To continue with  my casting... my hubby came up with a few too.

Lea - Diana Lane
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000178/
**She has to be a little older, but still beautiful.  Diana Lane...meow!

Queen Mab - Monica Bellucci
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000899/
**She also has to be a little be older, but UNBELIEVEABLE STRIKING! (I'm a woman and Monica could get me to do whatever she wants! Wow!)

Waldo Butters - Evan Handler
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0359577/
** He's pretty much who I see as Butters.  The right age and height too.

Michael Carpenter - Aaron Eckhart
http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/a/aaron_eckhart/thumbnails/tn2_aaron_eckhart_2.jpg
**My hubby thinks if he couldn't get Nathan Fillon for Michael, he would cast Aaron Eckhart.  I could see it too.

Charity Carpenter - Mary McCormack
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005203/
**My hubby likes her for Charity.  I can see that too.  She tough and tall, well 5'8ish.  I think Amanda Tapping is taller.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 04, 2010, 05:40:13 PM

Charity Carpenter - Mary McCormack
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005203/
**My hubby likes her for Charity.  I can see that too.  She tough and tall, well 5'8ish.  I think Amanda Tapping is taller.



Well, Mary's got Harry's description of Charity being Built Like a Brick House down pat :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BtHMv2 on May 05, 2010, 10:28:14 PM
 I don't know if this has already been said, but I've always liked Elisabeth Rohm for Murphy. She was Det. Kate Lockley in Angel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 06, 2010, 12:48:32 AM
I don't know if this has already been said, but I've always liked Elisabeth Rohm for Murphy. She was Det. Kate Lockley in Angel.

I remember her! For anyone who doesn't, here's this:

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/elisabethrohm.jpg?t=1273106855)

She even has Murphy's "Goddammit, Dresden!" look on her face! :D

(p.s. the blur in front of her face is the "gun" she was pointing at Angel/Boreanaz/Assface in this shot.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on May 06, 2010, 02:47:34 AM
my choice for murphy...
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/A_F/Da_Dh/DarkBlue/Season1/DarkBlue05.jpg)
nicki aycox. you supernatural fans might recognize her as the original meg
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 06, 2010, 02:53:50 AM
wait, the girl from eliza thornberry?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on May 06, 2010, 03:53:03 AM
wait, the girl from eliza thornberry?

Lacey Chabert? Thats the girl who does the voice of Eliza Thornberry in the Wild Thornberry's... Not sure what brought her up...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 06, 2010, 03:57:18 AM
[nicki aycox. you supernatural fans might recognize her as the original meg
thats waht brought her up, she was the original meg.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on May 06, 2010, 04:02:45 AM
but im not getting the whole eliza thornberry thing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BtHMv2 on May 06, 2010, 01:04:50 PM
I watched 'The Number 23' the other day and thought; "Holy Crap! Jim Carrey would make a pretty good Dresden!"

(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab294/BtHMv2/Random%20Stuff/number23pic3.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on May 06, 2010, 01:25:44 PM
I don't know if this has already been said, but I've always liked Elisabeth Rohm for Murphy. She was Det. Kate Lockley in Angel.

She looks the part and the right age, but I don't think she has the range and is too tall.  I remember her on Law and Order, and she always acted so stiff.  Just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on May 06, 2010, 03:20:39 PM
Quote
but im not getting the whole eliza thornberry thing.

I believe they are confusing the meg from supernatural (a demon who has been played by multiple actresses) with meg griffin from family guy. Meg griffin was origionally voice cast by lacey chabert before mila kunis took over. lacey also did the voice-over work for eliza thornberry.

um...should I say kevin bacon now?

with that I now post the pic that will get lots of guy votes for my murphy choice...
(http://goremasterfx.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/nicki-aycox.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 06, 2010, 03:34:13 PM
See
I would more have gone for Emma Caulfield (even though she is 5'5")

Murphy's supposed to have a gymnast body, not a skinny model body.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 06, 2010, 03:35:38 PM
um...should I say kevin bacon now?


Hah!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 06, 2010, 03:42:47 PM
See
I would more have gone for Emma Caulfield (even though she is 5'5")

Murphy's supposed to have a gymnast body, not a skinny model body.


Well if that's the case then you might as well cast Sarah Michelle Gellar, since she actually has gymnastics, boxing AND martial arts training. She's studied Tae Kwon Do for years (don't know what level she is). She may not have Murphy's passion for aikido, but she's definitely got the gymnast's body, plus she's 5'3".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 06, 2010, 03:45:23 PM
True
and SMG is actually a good actress :)
And the right Age.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 06, 2010, 04:46:46 PM
True
and SMG is actually a good actress :)
And the right Age.


And it's not like she hasn't done the tiny blonde ass-kicking thing before :) Or the supernatural thing. And hell, she might get a kick out of just playing a human police officer who may or may not be spiritually inclined to take up a sword for the White God :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 06, 2010, 04:56:14 PM
Mostly I look at the picture that Hank posted and I'm like.
OMG who is this little girl, someone put some clothes on her. 

Sigh.. I think I got old somewhere.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Stantz on May 06, 2010, 05:59:25 PM
I always thought it would be cool if one of denarians was cast as a polar bear.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on May 07, 2010, 01:59:46 AM
Mostly I look at the picture that Hank posted and I'm like.
OMG who is this little girl, someone put some clothes on her. 

Sigh.. I think I got old somewhere.


I wanted to pull the shirt down.

Let's cast Tom Hanks as Harry!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: deschain19 on May 07, 2010, 02:48:13 AM
dakota fanning as ivy.

she may be a little old now, but she would have been perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on May 07, 2010, 02:50:45 AM
I still say Matt Bomer for Thomas... hands down! <3

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

*swoons and reserves the bunk for a while*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 07, 2010, 03:14:20 AM
I still say Matt Bomer for Thomas... hands down! <3

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

*swoons and reserves the bunk for a while*


YES!!!!! When Priscellie first brought it up, I wasn't sure, but then I got a closer look at him and... wow. just, wow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 07, 2010, 03:21:28 AM
dakota fanning as ivy.

she may be a little old now, but she would have been perfect.

Can she do a British accent without sucking? For that matter, her younger sister looks exactly like her, can she?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sûlien on May 07, 2010, 08:08:52 AM
Dresden:
Joe Flanigan - Not as tall as Harry (but then again, who is?) but DAMN does he look the part.
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Global+Green+USA+3rd+Annual+Pre+Oscar+Party+2Q79jTRyx46l.jpg




I could not agree more with you about casting Joe Flanigan as Harry.  He's got the nonchalance and dead pan snark down pat, plus he definitely has that 'whumpability' that the person portraying Harry has to have.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on May 07, 2010, 01:18:12 PM

I could not agree more with you about casting Joe Flanigan as Harry.  He's got the nonchalance and dead pan snark down pat, plus he definitely has that 'whumpability' that the person portraying Harry has to have.

I agreed too!  I can't believe I totally forgot about Col. Sheppard.  He really is Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ravengood on May 07, 2010, 10:08:04 PM
Gary Oldman could play all of the white male non white court roles by himself...The man is a supremely versatile actor.
He's been a russian, a police leutenant, a sci-fi villian with a western accent, a sci-fi educated villian, a dwarf, Beethoven, and it took me quite a while to recognize him in each role. 
As for the white court males-Johnny Depp... more clean cut than in Pirates...more Finding Neverland with a more modern hairstyle and mode of dress.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 07, 2010, 11:32:39 PM
Gary Oldman could play all of the white male non white court roles by himself...The man is a supremely versatile actor.
He's been a russian, a police leutenant, a sci-fi villian with a western accent, a sci-fi educated villian, a dwarf, Beethoven, and it took me quite a while to recognize him in each role. 

not to mention a world famous vampire! (the kind that doesn't sparkle like a gaudy bauble from the Liz Taylor collection. Dammit, I miss Buffy.)
 
Quote
As for the white court males-Johnny Depp... more clean cut than in Pirates...more Finding Neverland with a more modern hairstyle and mode of dress.

The only problem would be convincing him to take the role. He likes the quirk, and honestly, the WC male vamps are more evil and stupid than evil, morally ambiguous and quirky. Except for Thomas.

I could see him as Kincaid. He'd have to go blonde, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on May 08, 2010, 12:52:38 AM
The only problem would be convincing him to take the role. He likes the quirk, and honestly, the WC male vamps are more evil and stupid than evil, morally ambiguous and quirky. Except for Thomas.

I could see him as Kincaid. He'd have to go blonde, though.


mmmmm Johnny Depp.
that would work. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ravengood on May 08, 2010, 02:45:11 AM
Let's see...
Harry Dresden-Nick Cage or Nathan Fillion
Ebenezar McCoy-Billy Connolly
The Merlin-Christopher Lee
Listens to Wind-Wes Studi
Martha Liberty-Marianne Jean-Baptiste
The Gatekeeper-Ghassan Massoud
Captain Luccio-Judi Dench
Captain Luccio 2.0-Summer Glau
Warden Morgan-Liam Neeson
Warden Ramirez-?
Susan Rodriguez-Salma Hayek
Karrin Murphy-Kathryn Morris
Thomas Raith-Johnny Depp
Lara Raith-Catherine Zeta-Jones
John Marcone-Gary Oldman
Valkyrie Gard-Ali Larter
Cujo Hendricks-?
Michael Carpenter-Russel Crowe
Charity Carpenter-Rebecca Romijn
Molly Carpenter-Laura Vandervoort
Bob-Steve Buscemi
Mac-Adam Baldwin
Sanya-Michael Clarke Duncan
Shiro-Ken Watanabe
Mab-Tilda Swinton (maybe a little Typecasting)
Kincaid-Daniel Craig
Ivy-Dakota Fanning
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 08, 2010, 03:03:23 AM
mmmmm Johnny Depp.
that would work. :D

And, hey, it's not like he hasn't played sniper/badass/crazy-ass gunmen roles before :) Wasn't he in Once Upon A Time in Mexico? And he just finished playing John Dillinger!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 08, 2010, 03:22:06 AM
Dude, the fight in once upon a time in mexico
(click to show/hide)
could totaly see him as kincaid, he would have been a good thomas when he was younger, but now he is to old, i picture him young and pretty.

and you have all got to remeber, johnny depp is the most choicey of actors on earth!!, seriously, turned down titaninc, speed and a bunch of huge movies, he only does it if he likes the character and can seriously explore it
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 08, 2010, 04:14:28 AM
Annnnd since I'm too lazy to keep doing the 'quote' links, I'm just gonna type all my comments inside the quote box.



Let's see...
Harry Dresden-Nick Cage or Nathan Fillion
(yes please!)

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Ebenezar McCoy-Billy Connolly
(I can see this, actually. He was completely badass as Il Duce in The Boondock Saints)

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The Merlin-Christopher Lee
(either him or Sir Ian McKellan. Poor guys are getting typecast, lol.)

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Listens to Wind-Wes Studi
(or Chuck Norris. I'm kidding, I'm kidding :) But seriously, he is part Cherokee... the other part, the Irish part, might throw it off balance...)

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Martha Liberty-Marianne Jean-Baptiste
(have never seen her act, to my knowledge, so I sadly have no opinion here.)

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The Gatekeeper-Ghassan Massoud
(I'm actually very curious about this man. I have never seen him act, but I'm already partially biased because he was born in my mother and father's hometown/country. Another choice would be Oded Fehr. He played Ardeth Bay in the Mummy movies, and Zankou on the 7th season of Charmed.)

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Captain Luccio-Judi Dench

Captain Luccio 2.0-Summer Glau
(Until I know whether Summer Glau has an Italian heritage, I have no opinion, but Judi Dench is British. If she can effect an Italian accent, then I'll go for her.)

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Warden Morgan-Liam Neeson
(eh. I dunno. If he was alive and not a comedian and about two decades younger, I'd say George Carlin. But that's just me.

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Warden Ramirez-?
Esai Morales or Marc Consuelos. Guh. Just... guh.

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Susan Rodriguez-Salma Hayek
(I'd say have Valerie Cruz portray Susan, just for a kick :) She's already portrayed [a version] of Karrin Murphy, she might as well swing the spectrum, lol.)

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Karrin Murphy-Kathryn Morris
(I'm still undecided on who should play Karrin, but I do maintain that they have to be no more than 5'3", no less than 4'10", and that she needs to have martial arts/gymnastics training, but to look like the stereotypical helpless tiny blonde. Murphy in the book is the type of woman that most men will look at and dismiss, only to re-evaluate their opinion of her when she rips them another a**hole.)

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Thomas Raith-Johnny Depp
(I still maintain Matt Bomer for this role! It's all Priscellie's fault! http://lh3.ggpht.com/_4hFVr9y8CFA/SGqkMfLDHoI/AAAAAAAAKZI/lyWAyDaGygA/s640/MatthewBomer01.jpg)

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Lara Raith-Catherine Zeta-Jones
(personally... no. Jones doesn't look like she could have a seedy past as a porn star or be a succubus. Again, that's just my personal thoughts.)

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John Marcone-Gary Oldman
(ZOMG YESSS. I can totally see that. I <3 Gary Oldman.)

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Valkyrie Gard-Ali Larter
(Or Malin Ackerman. She's only 5'7" and a half, but she's about the right age I always thought that Sigrun would look.)

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Cujo Hendricks-?
(*sigh* I think it would take a miracle to find some giant of a muscle-bound man with red hair to portray Hendricks.)

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Michael Carpenter-Russel Crowe
(can't see it.)

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Charity Carpenter-Rebecca Romijn
(Someone mentioned Mary McCormick, actually. I rather like that idea.)

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Molly Carpenter-Laura Vandervoort
(Hmm. Dunno. On another note: Hey, Priscellie, wanna give it a shot?)

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Bob-Steve Buscemi
(Only if he does a British accent... and that's a stretch.)

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Mac-Adam Baldwin
(... do you wanna be the one to tell him to shave his head? :D)

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Sanya-Michael Clarke Duncan
(LOL. I don't think Sanya's quite that big. I'd love to hear him try a Russian accent, though!)

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Shiro-Ken Watanabe
(Mmm.... Ken's a little young to be Shiro. Shiro was an old man when we met him, remember? If he was alive, I'd say Pat Morita. You know. Mr. Miyagi from the Karate Kid movies?)

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Mab-Tilda Swinton (maybe a little Typecasting)
(It may be typecasting, but it's her fault for taking the role of the White Witch in Narnia. You hit it on the money, methinks.)

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Kincaid-Daniel Craig
(Amusingly enough, I had my heart set on Johnny Depp once I got the thought in my head.)

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Ivy-Dakota Fanning
(Well, maybe not Dakota... Dakota's a little old to be portraying a girl who is only currently (at this point in the DV) 13 years old. Maybe her sister Elle, instead?)
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Told ya I was lazy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 08, 2010, 04:15:10 AM
Dude, the fight in once upon a time in mexico
(click to show/hide)
could totaly see him as kincaid, he would have been a good thomas when he was younger, but now he is to old, i picture him young and pretty.

and you have all got to remeber, johnny depp is the most choicey of actors on earth!!, seriously, turned down titaninc, speed and a bunch of huge movies, he only does it if he likes the character and can seriously explore it

Which, as Kincaid, he'd probably go a little nuts with :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: theSandman on May 08, 2010, 10:47:11 AM
some thoughts:

Karrin - Katee Sackhoff (if you've only seen her in BSG you may not agree, watch her Bionic Woman spots or The Sentinel).

Eb McCoy - Brendan Gleeson (28 Days Later, Harry Potter films)

Morgan - Mel Gibson (Braveheart, We Were Soldiers)

Luccio 2.0 - Jessica Biel (Texas Chainsaw Massacre, London)

Michael - Josh Holloway (Lost) or Viggo Mortensen (The Lord of the Rings, A History of Violence)

Butters - Simon Pegg (Star Trek, Shaun of the Dead) or Butters from South Park, you decide.

Marcone - Bill Duke (I know he does not fit the physical description at ALL, but something about the way James Marsters reads Marcone, makes me picture a soft-talking Bill Duke).

Erlking or maybe Kincaid - Alexander Skarsgard (True Blood, Generation Kill)

Sadly, I can think of no actor qualified to play Harry in all respects, so here's a list of some that work for different reasons: James Marsters. No way can he hit the height mark at 5'9", but he kills the soul and voice of Harry. Joe Flanigan from Stargate: Atlantis may have some of the looks/attitude down, but probably not the acting chops or the light-hearted side of Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: matorade on May 08, 2010, 01:15:57 PM
Let's see...
Listens to Wind-Wes Studi
Karrin Murphy-Kathryn Morris
Valkyrie Gard-Ali Larter
Cujo Hendricks-?
Molly Carpenter-Laura Vandervoort
Sanya-Michael Clarke Duncan

Probably it's just me, I was think of somebody along like these:

Listen to Wind-Graham Greene (he may be too old now but since this thread is about "perfect casting" so)
Karrin Murphy-Yvonne Strahovski (she may be too pretty to be Murphy but hell she can kick butt)
Valkyrie Gard-Kristanna Loken
Molly Carpenter-Jordan Hinson
Sanya-Djimon Hounsou (minus the Russian accent)
Cujo Hendricks-Brock Lesner
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: John 1:17 on May 08, 2010, 02:59:31 PM
Hendricks ?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Este_es_Sheamus.jpg/200px-Este_es_Sheamus.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 08, 2010, 03:30:11 PM
Hendricks ?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Este_es_Sheamus.jpg/200px-Este_es_Sheamus.jpg)

Wow, that is a frightening man.


... or Viggo Mortensen (The Lord of the Rings, A History of Violence)

*gasp* I can't believe I never even thought of Viggo as Michael! He's soft-spoken, and violent when need be, and the whole way through LoTR, he kept giving off this aura of calm... that sounds pretty much like Michael to me! I vote Viggo for Michael Carpenter! Good call, Sandman :)

Of course, with this image, he could nail the role of John Marcone, too...
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/BrandoBardot/greygardens/viggo.jpg?t=1203946713)


Quote
Sadly, I can think of no actor qualified to play Harry in all respects, so here's a list of some that work for different reasons: James Marsters. No way can he hit the height mark at 5'9", but he kills the soul and voice of Harry. Joe Flanigan from Stargate: Atlantis may have some of the looks/attitude down, but probably not the acting chops or the light-hearted side of Harry.

I have never seen Stargate: Atlantis, so I don't really know who Joe Flanigan is... And I heard somewhere that JB originally wanted to have JM audition for Harry on the Syfy show, but James wouldn't leave his kids. (Which is both awwww! :) and Awwwww! :( ) And yeah, his height was definitely an issue, lol. I've heard about ten different accounts, saying he's anywhere from 5'7.5" to 5'11". However, James' hair is naturally afro-ish (you should see pics of him from his high school days -- so funny), so I think that leads to a lot of improper conclusions about his height. He would have had to wear lifts or something to achieve the right height.

This is actually a picture of him with his hair straight (?!)
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/44/240188621_18777fc445.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 08, 2010, 04:25:53 PM
Which, as Kincaid, he'd probably go a little nuts with :D
Yep, who woudnt want to be the mysterious bad ass?

and viggo would be a great michael, and he would be a good macrone, because he was awsome in eastern promsies "you may want to leave" but for some reason, and you probably all think this is crazy, but i always see christopeher lee as macrone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ravengood on May 08, 2010, 06:38:55 PM
Hmm...
Harry Dresden: Nathan Filion-Serenity and Castle show the the underdog and the snark.
Bob-Michael Caine-Dark Knight show the humor.
Thomas 2nd pick: Stuart Townsend already has played the pretty vamp
John Marcone:Gary Oldman -Remember Marcone is described as coming across as a football coach  Not so much sinister
Michael Carpenter:Russel Crowe -he has the build, has the action chops and as far as family acting see Cinderella Man
Shiro-Ken Watanabe- I would say the old Samurai in the Last Samurai but I have never heard him speak...Ken however has some acting chops and can handle the swordplay
Sanya-Must be Michael Clarke Duncan- The description of him with his shirt of in Small Favor and the whole intimidation thing recently He is a very big VERY STRONG MAN
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tzarii on May 08, 2010, 07:17:31 PM
For Kincaid/ Hell Hound: Timothy Roth

For Marcone:  Joe Montaigna (I think thats how its spelled), the guy who does mob boss from the simpsons. 

For Billy:  the Mac guy. 

My 2 cents.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: theSandman on May 08, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
*gasp* I can't believe I never even thought of Viggo as Michael! He's soft-spoken, and violent when need be, and the whole way through LoTR, he kept giving off this aura of calm... that sounds pretty much like Michael to me! I vote Viggo for Michael Carpenter! Good call, Sandman :)

Yeah, I like him for it, too. Just his air of family duty in A History of Violence and his sword fighting in LoTR.


I have never seen Stargate: Atlantis, so I don't really know who Joe Flanigan is... And I heard somewhere that JB originally wanted to have JM audition for Harry on the Syfy show, but James wouldn't leave his kids. (Which is both awwww! :) and Awwwww! :( ) And yeah, his height was definitely an issue, lol. I've heard about ten different accounts, saying he's anywhere from 5'7.5" to 5'11". However, James' hair is naturally afro-ish (you should see pics of him from his high school days -- so funny), so I think that leads to a lot of improper conclusions about his height. He would have had to wear lifts or something to achieve the right height.

I'll do some thumbnails for Joe Flanigan below. Marsters is supposed to be 5'9.5" according to most sources. I think ppl focus to much on the height. If Harry needs to be made tall, a lot of medium height actors could play him and make him appear tall.

Click on thumbnails for larger versions.

Joe in black leather for Harry's style:

(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/442/joeflanigan5.th.jpg) (http://img248.imageshack.us/i/joeflanigan5.jpg/)

Joe 2:

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7281/joeflanigan.th.jpg) (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/joeflanigan.jpg/)

Joe 3:

(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6619/joeflanigan99.th.jpg) (http://img85.imageshack.us/i/joeflanigan99.jpg/)


cheers!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 08, 2010, 08:16:46 PM
he would be a good harry, and tim roth would be a good kincaid too. ( and if this ever got made, producers would be happier, because who wants to spend zillions of dolloars on a side character?)
i might have siad this before, but you know the guy that was peter parkers boss in spiderman? he would be a great mac.he used to be in show where he was bald, and i was watching it the other day and was like "wow, he reminds me of mac"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: theSandman on May 09, 2010, 01:49:01 AM
he would be a good harry, and tim roth would be a good kincaid too. ( and if this ever got made, producers would be happier, because who wants to spend zillions of dolloars on a side character?)
i might have siad this before, but you know the guy that was peter parkers boss in spiderman? he would be a great mac.he used to be in show where he was bald, and i was watching it the other day and was like "wow, he reminds me of mac"

The actor you are thinkiing of is JK Simmons. He is a fantastic actor, my favorite role of his is in the recent remake of The Ladykillers. He would be a pretty good choice, actually. I picture a lot of the Dresden characters as actors that don't fit the physical description, but live up to the character's essence. So I admit, I imagine Mac as older than Dresden describes him. I also imagine Karrin as a brunette Katee Sackhoff (who is actually dyed blonde all the time), go figure. But Simmons probably matched Butcher's bill better. 

I dunno about Tim Roth as Kincaid. And I love Tim Roth. I actually think Roth might be good for Nicodemus. My choice for Kincaid is still Alexander Skarsgard. Google him if you don't know him, amazing up and coming actor who would be thrilling to watch as the . . . intense and professional killer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 09, 2010, 02:05:12 AM
Alex would be a pretty good kincaid, and tim a good nico, but i have that spot reserved for gary oldman.
i can picture alex as morgan, espescially after angels and demons

add on: OMG they remade the lady killers! im not sure if i want to kill people or see it!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: theSandman on May 09, 2010, 02:11:37 AM
Alex would be a pretty good kincaid, and tim a good nico, but i have that spot reserved for gary oldman.
i can picture alex as morgan, espescially after angels and demons

add on: OMG they remade the lady killers! im not sure if i want to kill people or see it!

I would say see it. It doesn't feel as cohesive as the original but Simmons knocks it out of the park. Hanks is pretty good, too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 09, 2010, 02:13:12 AM
Sounds good, off to the renting place! oh wait they closed all those shops down except for blockbuster that doesnt have anything, *pouts a little
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: theSandman on May 10, 2010, 12:37:40 AM
So I watched The International last night, and I must say, Clive Owen is probably my new front-runner for the part of Harry. He's a little older for the role, but I think he could nail the attitude and looks. He's also pretty tall (appearing) with most actors in his scenes looking up to him.

By the way, I have always been a fan of his, but didn't really think of this option until after posting here and then seeing him in something.

Yeah, he's my new horse in this race.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on May 10, 2010, 03:54:15 PM
Kevin Spacey is still my Nicodemus.  Though his salary alone would mean the rest of the movie would have to be done by grips carrying cardboard cutouts around.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 10, 2010, 11:16:13 PM
Kevin Spacey is still my Nicodemus.  Though his salary alone would mean the rest of the movie would have to be done by grips carrying cardboard cutouts around.

I can see it now...


Harry: "Fuego!" ::hophophop::
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scarecrow on May 12, 2010, 06:05:40 PM
David Nykl is Butters

http://www.davidnykl.com/2008_pictures/Stargate-Atlantis-Dr-Zelenk.jpg
 (http://www.davidnykl.com/2008_pictures/Stargate-Atlantis-Dr-Zelenk.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 13, 2010, 02:43:16 AM
David Nykl is Butters

http://www.davidnykl.com/2008_pictures/Stargate-Atlantis-Dr-Zelenk.jpg
 (http://www.davidnykl.com/2008_pictures/Stargate-Atlantis-Dr-Zelenk.jpg)

Really? I kinda see David Wenham.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Wenham.jpg/220px-Wenham.jpg)

If he looks familiar at all, that's because he played Faramir in LoTR The Two Towers and The Return of The King, Carl the crazy-ass inventor monk dude from Van Helsing, and Delios from 300.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ursiel on May 13, 2010, 03:33:05 AM
Okay, I'm just weird, so let me just say who I have in mind whenever I'm reading.

Harry: The Harry that's portrayed on the cover of Proven Guilty, when I think of Harry, I always think of that.

Murphy: Gillian Anderson(In this photo at least >.>) (http://www.nicewallpapers.info/pics/Celebrities/gillian-anderson/gillian-anderson_18.jpg)

Ebenezer: I don't know why, but I always imagine Alec Guinness.

Bob: Again, I'm weird, but I always imagined Eric Idle's voice.

As for the other characters, I don't really know of any actors who could fit the part. o-o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 13, 2010, 01:50:06 PM
One of david webnams best films is austraila, it was the first time i saw him play the bad guy, and i guess i can see him as butters, i always saw the main guy from scrubs
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on May 13, 2010, 02:02:40 PM
Don't Know if he has been posted for Harry Timothy Oliphant form Deadwood and Justified for Harry he has the mence and the build.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 13, 2010, 02:05:33 PM

Bob: Again, I'm weird, but I always imagined Eric Idle's voice.


Ooh! I love that idea! Actually, pretty much the voice of any Monty Python-ite would work in this case, I think. I've always loved John Cleese's voice :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dayman on May 13, 2010, 09:31:41 PM
John Cleese could make Bob really funny but for whatever reason I have always thought of Bob as having a younger sounding voice. Is it mentioned that he has a British accent? I don't remember reading that and I am much to far away from my books to double check.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BtHMv2 on May 13, 2010, 09:33:33 PM
Saw Virginia Madsen in something yesterday, I think she'd make a good Murphy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 13, 2010, 10:27:56 PM
John Cleese could make Bob really funny but for whatever reason I have always thought of Bob as having a younger sounding voice. Is it mentioned that he has a British accent? I don't remember reading that and I am much to far away from my books to double check.

Excerpt from Storm Front, the audio book: http://www.jim-butcher.com/books/dresden/1/jm9chocolate1.mp3 (http://www.jim-butcher.com/books/dresden/1/jm9chocolate1.mp3)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dayman on May 13, 2010, 11:10:51 PM
Ok so having Bob with a British accent works but was it mentioned in the books or is this just the way that people interpret him? I only ask so that I can narrow down my choices for who should play him. On a side note has anyone considered Helen Mirren for the role of Luccio's orignal body? I know that she is not Italian but she definatly can play an athority figure as seen in the Queen. And she has some action backround from National Treasure.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 14, 2010, 12:41:56 AM
Just found this listing in a comment on THIS (http://thefaust.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/lets-castthe-dresden-files/) page:


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Harry Dresden – Jared Padalecki
Karrin Murphy – Sarah Michelle Gellar
Donald Morgan – Eric Roberts
Susan Rodriguez- Melina Perez (WWE)
Thomas Raith- Tom Welling
Michael Carpenter- Christian Kane
Bob The Skull- Jeff Goldblum
Johnnie Marcone – Ryan Reynolds
Ebenezar McCoy- Sam Elliott
Lea- Emma Caulfield

Someone is a WB/CW fan :)

The OP of the page has a completely different cast listing. Nathan Fillion's on it -- listed as Michael Carpenter :D I don't agree with a lot of it, though. He/She mentions Clive Owen for the role of Harry, and Cillian Murphy to play Thomas. Personally, years ago, I did a mock-up of a professional wrestler known as John Morrison, as he would look with pale white skin and glossy black hair (which, as his hair is already dark-ish brown, wasn't too hard to do). The picture I used has Morrison looking kinda cocky, but then, before we really got to know Thomas in the books, that's kinda what Harry thought of him, too :)

Here's the before/after I did:

Before
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/morrison3.jpg?t=1273796058)

After
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/morrison2.jpg?t=1273796086)

My after's not very good, lol.

And to the other, the more people mention Sarah Michelle Gellar as playing Karrin Murphy, the more I want to see it happen. Tiny, ass-kicking blonde woman! As far as Christian Kane portraying Michael, I can't really see, but that may be because I'm used to seeing him as the hands-on former Black Ops dude on Leverage. And Sam Elliott as Ebenezar... Yes. I like this. I like this very much.


Ok so having Bob with a British accent works but was it mentioned in the books or is this just the way that people interpret him? I only ask so that I can narrow down my choices for who should play him.

I really don't know. All I know is that James uses an English accent (which makes me swoon) to portray Bob in the books, and Terrence Mann portrayed Bob with an English accent on the show... and Jim didn't say a word about it... unlike the unfortunate attempt to rename Harry "Eric..." So I'm assuming that, if Jim's okay with Bob having an English accent, then that's the way he should be portrayed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ravengood on May 14, 2010, 03:52:51 PM
Let's see... round 3
Harry Dresden- Nathan Fillion
Ebenezar McCoy-Billy Connolly
The Merlin-Christopher Lee
Listens to Wind-Wes Studi-Last of the Mohican’s showed his skill plus I just want to see him do the Shag/LTW duel
Martha Liberty-Marianne Jean-Baptiste-She plays no-nonsense well from Without a trace.
The Gatekeeper-Ghassan Massoud-He did well in Kingdom of Heaven
Captain Luccio-Judi Dench
Corpsetaker/Captain Luccio 2.0-Summer Glau-Is there something that said that she was Italian?  I just know she could handle the oddity of Corpsetaker and still be combat impressive as Luccio 2.0
Warden Morgan-Liam Neeson- after Kingdom of Heaven, Taken, and Batman Begins I think he could handle Morgan
Warden Ramirez-Oscar Jaenada maybe… he’s in the movie The Losers
Susan Rodriguez-Salma Hayek
Karrin Murphy-Kathryn Morris-She looks to be rather petite in Cold Case and she can play the cop well, Pretty enough to be dismissed though
Thomas Raith-Stuart Townsend-already has experience playing the pretty vamp
Lara Raith-Catherine Zeta-Jones
John Marcone-Gary Oldman-supposed to come across as a football coach not mr sinister.
Valkyrie Gard-Ali Larter
Cujo Hendricks-Stellan Skarsgård- after seeing him in King Arthur I think he may do… although otherwise I can’t think of any other red haired guys that could pull it off… Unless maybe just look for someone from the NFL with red hair built like a Sherman tank… It’s not like Cujo has many lines… just has to be able to growl.
Michael Carpenter-Russel Crowe- can handle the action, has the build, and can handle the family aspect
Charity Carpenter-Rebecca Romijn
Molly Carpenter-Laura Vandervoort- she has shown some action ability on Smallville
Bob-Hugh Laurie- just thought of this one…since people want British (he is) and he has the snark and dirty mind of Bob down on House.
Mac-Adam Baldwin- I just can’t think of anyone else who can put as much into as few syllables as he can.
Sanya-Michael Clarke Duncan- the only guy big and strong enough that I could believe the backboard scene with
Shiro-Ken Watanabe- I might say the quiet samurai from the Last Samurai but without having heard him speak don’t know.  But Ken can handle the swordplay.
Mab-Tilda Swinton (maybe a little Typecasting) or possibly
Maeve-Christina Ricci- someone else suggested her but I can see it.
Kincaid-Daniel Craig- can handle the scary action dude.
Ivy-Elle Fanning-Dakota’s little sister could get tips from sis on being the uber creepy little girl
Lea-Amanda Righetti- attractive redhead
Elaine Mallory-Keira Knightly…hmm?
Donner Vadderung-Was thinking maybe Ray Stevenson
Butters-David Krumholtz- not very tall- can play the geeky, quirky genius, Jew as evidenced by Numb3rs.
Forthill-Gerald McRaney
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 14, 2010, 04:15:27 PM
Well, half of those actors i havent ever heard about(summer glau, that dude from the losers. the guy u have as thomas)
And there is only one probablem woth the thomas guy, he is experinced at playing the vampire, not the cool, funny sucbus type vampire.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: logarithm.and.blues on May 14, 2010, 11:29:27 PM
Let's see... round 3
Harry Dresden- Nathan Fillion
Ebenezar McCoy-Billy Connolly
The Merlin-Christopher Lee
Listens to Wind-Wes Studi-Last of the Mohican’s showed his skill plus I just want to see him do the Shag/LTW duel
Martha Liberty-Marianne Jean-Baptiste-She plays no-nonsense well from Without a trace.
The Gatekeeper-Ghassan Massoud-He did well in Kingdom of Heaven
Captain Luccio-Judi Dench
Corpsetaker/Captain Luccio 2.0-Summer Glau-Is there something that said that she was Italian?  I just know she could handle the oddity of Corpsetaker and still be combat impressive as Luccio 2.0
Warden Morgan-Liam Neeson- after Kingdom of Heaven, Taken, and Batman Begins I think he could handle Morgan
Warden Ramirez-Oscar Jaenada maybe… he’s in the movie The Losers
Susan Rodriguez-Salma Hayek
Karrin Murphy-Kathryn Morris-She looks to be rather petite in Cold Case and she can play the cop well, Pretty enough to be dismissed though
Thomas Raith-Stuart Townsend-already has experience playing the pretty vamp
Lara Raith-Catherine Zeta-Jones
John Marcone-Gary Oldman-supposed to come across as a football coach not mr sinister.
Valkyrie Gard-Ali Larter
Cujo Hendricks-Stellan Skarsgård- after seeing him in King Arthur I think he may do… although otherwise I can’t think of any other red haired guys that could pull it off… Unless maybe just look for someone from the NFL with red hair built like a Sherman tank… It’s not like Cujo has many lines… just has to be able to growl.
Michael Carpenter-Russel Crowe- can handle the action, has the build, and can handle the family aspect
Charity Carpenter-Rebecca Romijn
Molly Carpenter-Laura Vandervoort- she has shown some action ability on Smallville
Bob-Hugh Laurie- just thought of this one…since people want British (he is) and he has the snark and dirty mind of Bob down on House.
Mac-Adam Baldwin- I just can’t think of anyone else who can put as much into as few syllables as he can.
Sanya-Michael Clarke Duncan- the only guy big and strong enough that I could believe the backboard scene with
Shiro-Ken Watanabe- I might say the quiet samurai from the Last Samurai but without having heard him speak don’t know.  But Ken can handle the swordplay.
Mab-Tilda Swinton (maybe a little Typecasting) or possibly
Maeve-Christina Ricci- someone else suggested her but I can see it.
Kincaid-Daniel Craig- can handle the scary action dude.
Ivy-Elle Fanning-Dakota’s little sister could get tips from sis on being the uber creepy little girl
Lea-Amanda Righetti- attractive redhead
Elaine Mallory-Keira Knightly…hmm?
Donner Vadderung-Was thinking maybe Ray Stevenson
Butters-David Krumholtz- not very tall- can play the geeky, quirky genius, Jew as evidenced by Numb3rs.
Forthill-Gerald McRaney
I'm just gonna skip around here.
Fillion-totally. he pulled off snark as Mal Reynolds, and he's got the look. sort of.
Chris Lee-seems very Merlin-y to me. he did a good job as saruman. maybe Ian McKellen, too, only because I never envisioned the Merlin with a beard.
Krumholtz-def. Chris Mintz-Plasse, too, possibly.
Daniel Craig-TOTALLY. Kincaid=meaner, more effective version of James Bond.
Adam Baldwin-Eh... he's still Jayne Cobb to me. can't imagine Jayne Cobb as a bartender.
Hugh Laurie-YES.
Salma Hayek-...nah, still like Eva Mendes for looks.
Gary Oldman-...he's still Commissioner Gordon to me. cop to gangster seems weird.
Russell Crowe-maybe.
Laura Vandervoort-possible.
Summer Glau-yep. she can kick ass handily, as seen in Serenity.
Liam Neeson-maybe. I like Jeffrey Dean Morgan for the role.
I say Morgan Freeman for Jake/Uriel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 14, 2010, 11:53:15 PM
Liam Neeson-maybe. I like Jeffrey Dean Morgan for the role.

As Morgan? I CAN SEE THIS.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 17, 2010, 01:13:20 AM
After watching Hot Fuzz and The End of Time, I can only see Timothy Dalton as Nicodemus.
Nathan Fillion might make a good Michael, although the beard might be an issue. I can actually see him as Harry more than Michael.

Bob-John Simms
Shagnasty-Gabriel Wolf (Sutekh in "Pyramids of Mars" and The Beast in "The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h02ktxRsGSs&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h02ktxRsGSs&feature=related) this voice.
 
Erlking-Keith David (voice only, he was the voice of The Arbiter, Anderson in Mass Effect, the Cat in Coraline, and GOLIATH in Gargoyles)
Uriel-Morgan Freeman
Thomas-John Barrowman. The hair might be an issue though.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0057882/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0057882/)

That's all I can think of for now.

EDIT: Actually, David Tennant would make a great Bob.

I think I've been watching too much Doctor Who lately.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 17, 2010, 01:40:54 AM
i had an idea for rashid, all though he is a bit young. oded fehr, you probably know him from the mummy movies and resident evil
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dayman on May 17, 2010, 11:42:35 AM
Is there such a thing as too much Doctor Who? Also Morgan Freeman as Uriel? Lock that up right now! I just reread SmF and every line of his is accompanied by Morgan Freemans voice. They should cast him now and worry about the rest of the movie later.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scarecrow on May 17, 2010, 08:33:34 PM
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i had an idea for rashid, all though he is a bit young. oded fehr, you probably know him from the mummy movies and resident evil

Good plan. Do we ever see Rashid's face clearly?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 17, 2010, 09:56:26 PM
I think so, it was either summer knight or Proven guilty, but i could be horriably wrong. if we havent we proabably will by the time the apoclaypse happens
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 19, 2010, 10:49:10 PM
paul bettany is my dresden, especially after inkheart and knights tale, except he is blond and english, but he can tone it down, and if he is blond it could be like daniel craig and bond
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3449/3265115411_5781542732.jpg)
and so you can see him in a coat, so he is early harryized
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:49GKiGCp3yXX1M:http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Inkheart/paul_bettany_stars_as___dustfinger__in_new_line_cinema_s_inkheart_s.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 20, 2010, 03:49:23 PM
If price were no obstacle, and you could succesful get this many stars to work together, I have put together my ideal Dresden Cast. Some of the ages are a bit off, and some of the characters could fit the look better, but I have taken much consideration on acting talent as well based off similar roles.

There have been some good names I glanced over and many of them could be runner-ups IMO but I also considered relations for my cast. For example, Thomas and Harry need to look like they are related, and Lord Raith would have to look like he could be Thomas' father. Inari and Lara should look like they could be sisters and related to Thomas as well, etc.

Some other good actors that I like (for this kind of movie, most have played fantasy roles):
Kristen Bell, Benecio del Toro, Christopher Waltz, Eric Bana, James Marsters, Liev Schreiber, Kevin Durand, Hugo Weaving, Ian McKellan, Geoffrey Rush, Patrick Stewart, Ewan McGregor, Ralph Fiennes, Willem Dafoe, Liam Neeson, Joaquin Phoenix, Michael Sheen, Russell Crowe, Jude Law, Jeremy Irons, John Malkovich,James McAvoy, etc.

I am sure I could go on forever with good actors that I like, but I also considered the chemistry of the actors. For example someone really famous like Brad Pitt, Keanu Reeves, Johnny Depp, probably wouldn't go over well as a cameo part, albeit I have casted some big hitters for small roles in my fantasy cast, but I was trying to squeeze in my favorites.

Without further adieu my Dresden Cast (pdf):
Male Roles (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANmE2YjkyNTMtMWNhOS00OGNhLWFlNGUtMTQ4YjEzMDg0NGYw&hl=en)
Female Roles (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAMjY4Yzc3NzItN2NmMS00N2M3LWEzMjctNzViNjZjMjg1YmE2&hl=en)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 20, 2010, 03:56:46 PM
I still need a Ms. Gard, Rashid/Gatekeeper, Uriel, Margaret Gwendolyn LeFay McCoy Dresden , Margaret Angelica Dresden,  McAnally, Father Anthony Forthill, Red King, Lord Raith, Martin, The Ordo Lebes, the other Denarius, Madrigal Raith, Tera West, etc.

I wanted to go with C. Lee as Lord Raith but i thought he made a good Merlin too. But Max von Sydow could be a good Merlin alternate.

Paul Bettany already played an Archangel recently maybe he could be my Uriel.

Maybe Cate Blanchett as my Margaret LeFay.

Red King might be tough, i need a hispanic stalky shorter guy that can play crazy and scary, but i already cast Danny Trejo as Injun Joe, maybe I can move him, and cast the guy who plays Billy Black in Twilight as Injun Joe.

Madrigal Raith = Mark Strong. I think would be good for this part.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 20, 2010, 04:02:57 PM
Good plan. Do we ever see Rashid's face clearly?

**SPOILER ALERT**
Yes, Rashid takes his hood off at the island on the dock before Dresden faces the Negloshi (shapeshifter). He has a fake eye, scar, etc. Book 10 or 11, I can't remember now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 20, 2010, 05:21:34 PM
**SPOILER ALERT**
Yes, Rashid takes his hood off at the island on the dock before Dresden faces the Negloshi (shapeshifter). He has a fake eye, scar, etc. Book 10 or 11, I can't remember now.

It would be book 11, first page of Chapter 39.

Quote
     "Wizard Rashid?" I asked.
     The Gatekeeper's staff never wavered as he faced me. He lifted a hand and drew back his hood. His face was long and sharp-featured and weathered like old leather. He wore a short beard that was shot through with silver, and his silver hair was a short, stiff brush. One of his eyes was dark. The other had a pair of horrible old silver scars running though it, from his hairline down to his jaw. The injury had to have ruined his natural eye. It had been replaced with something that looked like a stainless-steel ball bearing. "Indeed," he said calmly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on May 20, 2010, 08:58:01 PM
I like the little girl in this ad for IVY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdetQH_6SWU

She has that young Dakota Fanning vibe and i know people liked DF for the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dryrat on May 21, 2010, 11:44:47 AM
I'm kind of torn between thinking that Hugh Laurie would do serious justice to the role of Harry, and knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that no one could be better as the voice of Bob. (just think of Gregory House saying"that's because you're an idiot")
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 21, 2010, 01:30:56 PM
I'm kind of torn between thinking that Hugh Laurie would do serious justice to the role of Harry, and knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that no one could be better as the voice of Bob. (just think of Gregory House saying"that's because you're an idiot")

I think Hugh Laurie has the look and could pull off the sarcasm, I just don't know if he could pull of badass wizard when the time comes. IMO after seeing Clive Owen in Sin City and Shoot Em Up, I think he could be badass when needed, and from the movie Closer he can play serious as hell and sarcastic.

As far as Bob, if they do only a voice than he probably would be a good choice. But if they were to manifest him like they did in the TV show than I would still go with Eddie Izzard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 21, 2010, 01:34:17 PM
I like the little girl in this ad for IVY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdetQH_6SWU

She has that young Dakota Fanning vibe and i know people liked DF for the role.

Dakota Fanning is old enough now that she could play Molly Carpenter (which is why I cast it that way)

Is the girl in the add a proven actress? The girl i chose for Ivy was in Kick Ass as Hit Girl, and for her age she was an amazing actress, she could easily pull off the fight scene with the Denarius.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 21, 2010, 04:29:12 PM
I have updated my cast and made some rearrangments. My list started off coherent with characters listed in order of significance, but it has sort of become random.

Also I admit the list has become a bit ridiculous because I tried to squeeze in as many major actors and actresses as I could even for small roles that wouldn't really require a big star, but I figure since it's a fake cast anyways, why not get as many as I can in there.

I even casted Cowl and we don't even know who that really is yet, it could be a character that's already been revealed. But like I said, I am really stretching this to get a bunch of big names in.

Go to this thread to find link to updated cast http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18318.70.html (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18318.70.html)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 21, 2010, 04:45:28 PM
I know there is already a thread for a Dresden Files Movie Cast, but it's outdated (except my last few posts).

I wanted to get a fresh take on who should be cast if they were to make a movie or series of movies.


POLL RESULTS AT CLOSE:

Zachary Quinto     - 4 (14.3%)
Lee Pace    - 2 (7.1%)
Ryan Reynolds    - 2 (7.1%)
Hugh Jackman    - 2 (7.1%)
Clive Owen    - 1 (3.6%)
Paul Bettany    - 2 (7.1%)
Timothy Olyphant    - 4 (14.3%)
Nathan Fillion    - 6 (21.4%)
Joe Flanigan    - 1 (3.6%)
Chris Evans    - 1 (3.6%)
Gerard Butler    - 1 (3.6%)
Neil Flynn    - 2 (7.1%)
Jared Padalecki    - 0 (0%)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Knight Disciple on May 21, 2010, 07:07:08 PM
Right, I'll do a post for male characters, then one for femaleedit the gals into this one.

Harry Dresden: Maybe, but he seems a bit old unless we start a ways down the line. I was under the impression Harry was hitting maybe 30 in Storm Front. Clive has some of the look, but looks a bit too mature for what I picture early Harry being.
Michael Carpenter: Hm, maybe. I'd generally pictured Michael being a bit more buff, and with a squarer jaw. Maybe Sean Bean here?  ;)
Bob the Skull: Well, if it's voice-only (which it ought to be, dang it!), I can't say for sure. I'd need an audio clip of him.
Kincaid: Perfect.
Ebenezar McCoy: Perfect.
Warden Morgan: Pretty much perfect. Even/especially if they throw in the scars.  ;D
Johnnie Marcone: Actually, yes. Perfect.
Thomas Raith: You know...I can see it, yes.
Carlos Ramirez: Looks solid, don't know the guy.
Nicodemus: He could get the delivery down, but...he's too old. Nicky boy is supposed to look like he's in his 30's, isn't he?
Hendricks: Perfect.
Sanya: Yeah, I think that works pretty well.
Erlking: Hm...yeah, it works. 8)
Ferrovax: Bean should be Michael, not sure who to put here. Maybe Nighy?
Donar: Eh. I'd pictured someone...older. Maybe Christopher Lee here?
Lloyd Slate: I like it.
Shiro: Perfect.
Fix: Solid choice.
Red King: Eh, maybe. Couldn't hurt to use someone who looks a little younger, no offense to the actor in question.  ;)
Borden: Seems a solid choice.
Lord Raith: I'd put Rickman here. Lee has the charisma, but again, he seems to look a bit old for it. Rickman could give the role some needed vitality (no offense to Mr. Lee).
Mortimer: I dunno. I don't have a good picture in my mind here.
DuMorne: Decent. Part of me hates wasting him in such a small role, though.
Duke Ortega: Perfect.
Waldo Butters: Solid. He might be workable for Mortimer, too.
Madrigal: Good.
Listens to the Wind: Maybe. I pictured him with more grey and wrinkles.
The Merlin: Hm. Possible. Another picture might help.
Uriel: Yeah, I can see it.
Rashid: I'd love it, but....Rashid's of Middle Eastern descent, so I can't really say it feels like a good fit. Possible alternate for The Merlin.
Cowl: Not bad.
Grevane: Oh, I like it, actually.

Edit: Time for the ladies.

Murphy: I can see it. Hopefully she's not too tall. ;)
Ivy: Pretty good.
Molly: I think so. Hopefully she's not too old that she can't "age with the role".
Susan: Decent choice.
Mab: Hm. Maybe...I think Tilda Swinton could work here as well.
Lea: Eh. Not seeing it.
Maeve: Sure.
Aurora: Um...actually, maybe.
Lily: Liking it.
Justine: Very solid pick.
Corpsetaker: Yeah, this seems solid.
Elaine: I think so, yes.
Lash: Heh. Solid.
Mavra: Perfect.
Lara: Hm. Solid, at least.
Bianca: Good.
Inari: Too old.
Ancient Mai: If we lather on the age makeup, maybe.
Ms. Gard: Solid.
Charity: Not really. I think if you swap Janssen and Pfeiffer, it would work better. Pfeiffer would bring a bit more maturity to the role.
Margaret: Actually, yeah, I think this is pretty good.
Tera West: Good.
Tessa: Again, swapping Janssen and Pfeiffer here. Feels like a better fit.
Arianna Ortega: Perfect.
Priscilla: Yeah, I think this is good.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ursiel on May 21, 2010, 07:19:28 PM
I liked most of them except Harry and Thomas. But I don't know of anyone else lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: GreyWarden on May 21, 2010, 07:45:48 PM
I think I saw two actors who actually fit both age and physical description of the characters you wanted them to play.  Sorry, massive amounts of NO.

I don't see enough movies/TV to try casting it, but I can say that I don't see this list as appropriate.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Spectacular Sameth on May 21, 2010, 07:54:50 PM
The more I watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the more I think the guy who plays Angel would make a good Thomas Raith and the guy that plays Giles would make a good Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ghsdkgb on May 21, 2010, 08:02:50 PM
I'd still advocate Michael Clarke Duncan as Marcone. Sure, he's not the right ethnicity, but it's REALLY easy for me to read Marcone's lines in his voice.

I can't see Adrian Pasdar having that same imposing feeling, though he could probably pull off tiger-souled.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Der Sturmbrecher on May 22, 2010, 12:37:31 AM
Somebody should set up one of those elimination brackets for this purpose. Poll the board for their favs for each role, and then face them off "democratically." I'd be interested to see who'd win.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on May 22, 2010, 10:37:12 AM
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Somebody should set up one of those elimination brackets for this purpose.

I concur, but know nothing useful to help achieve it.

As for your choice - the men nail it, i think you got the majority of them perfect. Harry, nic, ferrovax, billy and rashi - maybe, but the rest hit it.
The females - some are exact, but i just get the feeling that there is way too many good looking women around harry with that cast. I mean, i'd always imagined some a bit more realistically good looking, rather than movie star perfect, but the attitudes from what i know match the characters.

I had wondered about Tony Robinson for Bob's voice. HE can have the right combo of intelligent and annoying, but thats just my two cents, helluva lot of work gone in to your choices.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on May 23, 2010, 04:48:24 AM
I think that Vincent Cassel would be the perfect Lord Raith - he brings a whimsical, serial-killer quality smothered in suaveness that suits the character well  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 23, 2010, 04:55:03 AM
I think that Vincent Cassel would be the perfect Lord Raith - he brings a whimsical, serial-killer quality smothered in suaveness that suits the character well  :)

I've seen pictures of him... is it just me, or does he sort of bear a vague resemblance to Jude Law?

On another note, think he can rock a giant honking ruby earring in one ear? (I'm rereading Blood Rites for the millionth time, and have just reached Lord Raith's description in the book. Kinda funny.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 23, 2010, 03:05:14 PM
I forgot about Vincent Cassel, I like that actor. He might be too young looking to pull off Lord Raith though, granted he is a Vampire, but he is also the father of a bunch of offspring, so I picture him looking somewhat older.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 23, 2010, 03:44:57 PM
@ Knight Disciple

I like your suggestions, I think you are correct on all accounts. I have to admit that I went overboard casting some big actors for small parts and also getting some of the ages wrong. I figure since it's fake though why not squeeze them in there.

Harry: Yes, Clive is too old for early Harry.
Michael Carpenter: I did consider Bean for this but I like Viggo so I boosted him up to this role.
Nicodemus: I wanted to put Gary Oldman here actually but I thought Nighy could pull it off too.
Donar: Your absolutely right, I thought about that, but the guy is actually Norweigan so that's why I did it.
Red King: I could think of any other guys except maybe Robert LaSardo, actually LaSardo would be great.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RobertLaSardoTattoo.JPG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RobertLaSardoTattoo.JPG)
Lord Raith: I originally had C Lee as the Merlin, but that wasn't working for me. Rickman could work.
DuMorne: Yeah I kind of wanted Oldman as my Nicodemus.
Rashid: I didn't realize he was Middle Eastern, how about this Oded Fehr http://angelacameron.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/oded-fehr.jpg (http://angelacameron.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/oded-fehr.jpg) too young?

Mab: My logic here was that Belluci could pull of being the mother of M. Fox (as Maeve).
Lea: my reason is Jovovich can pull off a pretty decent CRAZY which is kind of Lea. But the look isn't quite right.
Inari: I thought so too, but she kind of favors Portman so I was going for the sisterly look. Plus Inari is old enough to be a production assistant at a porn studio so that would put her at like maybe 21ish and Knightley is 25, not too far off.
Charity: Agreed. However is Pfeiffer too old to play Viggo or Beans wife? she is in her 50's now.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 23, 2010, 03:47:59 PM
Somebody should set up one of those elimination brackets for this purpose. Poll the board for their favs for each role, and then face them off "democratically." I'd be interested to see who'd win.

A poll is a good idea! Except I can't think of 5 actors to consider for Harry. I will think about it and start a poll. I will review some of the suggestions on the other threads too, though I have already shot down tons of them like Eric Bana, Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman, etc.

Throw me some suggestions for Harry Dresden, then we can trickle it down to other characters. Casting Harry is going to effect how Thomas Raith is cast also, because Thomas is suppose to resemble Harry, except a bit shorter and a better physique of course. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 23, 2010, 07:47:16 PM
I forgot about Vincent Cassel, I like that actor. He might be too young looking to pull off Lord Raith though, granted he is a Vampire, but he is also the father of a bunch of offspring, so I picture him looking somewhat older.

For anyone wondering who it is MoSeS_ and miketh are talking about, this is Vincent Cassel:

(http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/1/d/1dmcs47776gx747m.jpg)

Lord Raith has several centuries on Thomas, Lara and Harry. I would assume, however, that he looks like he's roundabout in his 50s or early 60s which would be just about the right look for a man who's the father of a 35 year old guy. Vincent was born in 1966, so he's 44. Of course, there's also make up and stuff. There's talented people in Hollywood.

Description of Lord Raith from page 142 of Blood Rites, paperback edition:

Quote
     The air grew suddenly colder, as if the Almighty had flicked on the air-conditioning. A man slid out of the car. He was about six feet tall, dark of hair and pale of flesh. He was dressed in a white linen suit with a silver-grey silk shirt and Italian leather shoes. There was a scarlet gem of some kind fixed to his left earlobe, though his fine, straight hair hid it until a breeze briefly tossed the dark strands to one side. He had long, spatulate fingers, broad shoulders, the eyes of a drowsy jaguar, and he was better-looking than Thomas.

Which is fricking saying something, because Thomas is drop-dead gorgeous!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 24, 2010, 12:06:09 AM
I have updated my cast and made some rearrangments. My list started off coherent with characters listed in order of significance, but it has sort of become random.

Also I admit the list has become a bit ridiculous because I tried to squeeze in as many major actors and actresses as I could even for small roles that wouldn't really require a big star, but I figure since it's a fake cast anyways, why not get as many as I can in there.

I even casted Cowl and we don't even know who that really is yet, it could be a character that's already been revealed. But like I said, I am really stretching this to get a bunch of big names in.

Here is the updated cast.

Male Characters http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANWNmYWZiNWItZTkwNS00NmY0LTliMjctNWViNmI0YWM5NDIw&hl=en (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANWNmYWZiNWItZTkwNS00NmY0LTliMjctNWViNmI0YWM5NDIw&hl=en)
Female Characters http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANzdkMzVmYzQtNmU1OS00YmNlLWJjZDItMDYyMzg3NTlhMWQ2&hl=en (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANzdkMzVmYzQtNmU1OS00YmNlLWJjZDItMDYyMzg3NTlhMWQ2&hl=en)
dude, that would be a good cast, except for harry, i mean i love clive owen but, i dont know man, i am not incredably fond of him, it would depend
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Baron Hazard on May 24, 2010, 06:52:45 AM
Nathan Fillion is my Dresden, I've never been able to feel Blackthorne as Dresden.

Terrence Mann (i think that was his name) will forever be Bob's voice in my head tho.

Erica from "V" would be a good Movie.

And Robin Hood recently has ingrained Russel Crow as Michael to me.

my vote for Thomas is Neill Caffrey from White Collar.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 24, 2010, 02:34:32 PM
I started a new thread about Movie Casting this the other day (meged here)

And someone suggested a poll, so I re-read this thread and I am staring a poll naturally beggining with Harry.

scroll to the top of the page to vote
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 24, 2010, 02:36:01 PM
So I just re-read the Perfect Casting thread and came across a lot of actors that I hadn't thought of before. So now I have enough choices to actually start a poll for Harry.

Sadly, there were a lot of bad choices too, such as people being picked for looks only, and also a ton of television actors. I am not saying some TV actors couldn't pull it off, but TV acting is completely different from movie acting so I tried to avoid most TV actors, granted I did include a few who could probably make the transition well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 24, 2010, 03:00:33 PM

Harry Dresden: Maybe, but he seems a bit old unless we start a ways down the line. I was under the impression Harry was hitting maybe 30 in

Jim has stated before that Harry's age during Welcome to The Jungle/Storm Front is somewhere around his mid-twenties. This is based on the fact that he left McCoy's farm for Chicago at the age of 18 or 19, then spent about four years doing odd jobs, three years of which were working under Nick Christian at Ragged Angel Investigations in order to receive his PI license.

Priscellie has done an extensive time line regarding the Dresdenverse, and as she's one of Jim's betas, she would know the situation. Well, what Jim tells her of it, anyway :) Series Timeline (http://"http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,1592.310.html")
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 24, 2010, 03:12:49 PM
Timeline or not, in reality casting this now would be moot (but it's fun).

There are already 12 books out, so if you made 1 movie for each book you would be facing a Harry Potter situation. Look how much Daniel Radcliffe has aged from start to finish, the movies barely keep up. Granted there is make-up and stuff.

If they actually made a movie for each book we would be looking at something like 24+ years of movies if they rushed them (spent less than a year on each one). I think Jim has 24 books planned for the series.

If they started the movies now, they can get the first half of the movies finished by the time the last book is released.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Der Sturmbrecher on May 24, 2010, 03:13:11 PM
A poll is a good idea! Except I can't think of 5 actors to consider for Harry. I will think about it and start a poll. I will review some of the suggestions on the other threads too, though I have already shot down tons of them like Eric Bana, Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman, etc.

Throw me some suggestions for Harry Dresden, then we can trickle it down to other characters. Casting Harry is going to effect how Thomas Raith is cast also, because Thomas is suppose to resemble Harry, except a bit shorter and a better physique of course. 

Yes, the whole point is that the content is generated by the board, like an election. Candidates get nominated if they have sufficient following, and then they enter the vote-offs. If you've been to GameFAQS, they have an annual character battle which is a good system to use.

Shot down Hugh Jackman!? *sigh* He's my personal fav for the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 24, 2010, 03:25:59 PM
Where is my None of the Above choice

Though Having seen Gerard Butler in a ton of stuff lately, I think he could pull it off.  if he was taller.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 24, 2010, 04:35:35 PM
oded would make a great gate keeper, add some scars and your good, he is decently aged anyways, you have to remeber he did the mummy awhile ago, and he looks a little different now, add some make up an volia! plus he does dark mysterious and cool well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 24, 2010, 04:46:06 PM
Did you see Oded in Splinter Cell?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 24, 2010, 05:06:42 PM
there was a splinter cell movie?  :o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 24, 2010, 05:07:57 PM
there was a splinter cell movie?  :o

sigh
Sleeper Cell
My Brain is off, it's a monday
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 24, 2010, 05:09:01 PM
oh, lol, yeah i saw that, i dont remeber most of it though
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Baron Hazard on May 24, 2010, 05:46:36 PM
Didnt vote.

Other: Nathan Fillion
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ghsdkgb on May 24, 2010, 05:49:47 PM
^I think we have a winner.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 24, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
Ryan Renolds is listed twice.

Also I nominate Chris Evans. Normally I think he's a little too tounge in cheek for some of the roles he takes but thats kind of fitting for Harry. Plus seeing as he's already played the Human Torch he knows how to play with fire. and in the movie Push he did pretty good with blocking bullets with a mental shield.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 24, 2010, 08:58:16 PM
is it wrong that i took a look at the male cast list and had to go for a lie down?

and i know he's not exactly a list but

(http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Joeflanigan.jpg/250px-Joeflanigan.jpg)

what about joe flanigan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 24, 2010, 09:21:41 PM
I don't watch Stargate so Joe Flanigan didn't make my list. Though he has been suggested many many times. Maybe he could pull it off, he has a good look, but I really am not familiar with him. But I probably rather have him then some of the people I put on the list. However I was building the list based off of other threads and how often these actors were suggested.

Personally I originally want Clive Owen but someone pointed out he is too old for the early Harry, then I saw Zachary Quinto and I think he could pull it off, hell he already had a ton of powers in Heroes so it wouldn't even be much of a change for him.

I fixed the list, had Renolds twice and meant to put Fillion, didn't watch Firefly but I saw Serenity, I think he would be ok. I think he would make a better Michael Carpenter though.

I can't believe Olyphant is winning right now. I use to like him especially as Simon in "GO", but after I saw the Hitman......I just don't know anymore, that movie was ubber lame. Though he was decent in "Live Free, Die Hard."

What the hey I'll throw Joe on there too, I think he has a good chance to win.

And Chris Evans, I liked "Push" (why I cast D. Fanning as Molly). Did you know Chris Evans is up for the role of Captain America? Weird since he was already a Marvel character, The Human Torch.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on May 24, 2010, 10:55:32 PM
mebbe I've been watching too much supernatural, but I think Misha Collins could pull it off. He's got the whole sharp/angular face going on... plus he's hilarious.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 24, 2010, 11:21:29 PM
Did you know Chris Evans is up for the role of Captain America? Weird since he was already a Marvel character, The Human Torch.
Yeah thats actually why I thought of him in the first place. Captain America is my favorite marvel hero
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on May 24, 2010, 11:43:52 PM
Did you know Chris Evans is up for the role of Captain America? Weird since he was already a Marvel character, The Human Torch.
It's actually been confirmed, he has been signed on as Cap.  Also Hugo Weaving will be playing the Red Skull.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Brightbane on May 25, 2010, 01:04:56 AM
Oooo, I like Lee Pace for it! He's got that strange humor down pat. My second choice (if there were multiples) would be Joe Flanigan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 01:24:41 PM
Oooo, I like Lee Pace for it! He's got that strange humor down pat.

I really like Lee Pace too but I voted for Zach because he is popular right now (because he is Spock and Sylar, two pretty awesome characters).

I wish I could change my vote to Lee Pace though he does have the strange humor.

For those of you who have never seen Pushing Daisies, you should check it out if you get a chance, he MAGICALLY thouches people back to life and works with a PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR solving mysterious deaths. Does that remind you of anyone?

And while Clive is 45, and Joe is 43, Lee is only 31 and shaven he looks like he is in his mid-twenties. Could definitely pull off young Harry right now.

Lee Pace:
(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/muudang/rough.jpg) (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ne5Lb2SiFHg/Sxf_dmFG1aI/AAAAAAAApEs/ckn7Jko2eI0/s400/lee+pace.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 25, 2010, 02:03:34 PM
I think Im going to change my vote. Lee Pace does seem more fitting
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 02:12:45 PM
I think Im going to change my vote. Lee Pace does seem more fitting

Yes I think he is perfect the more I think about it. (I am probably thinking about it way too much though)

Can you actually change it on the poll? is that possible?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 02:22:28 PM
Lee Pace looks too "sexy" and small for me. If they could get Bruce Campbell from 10-15 years ago I'd go for that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 25, 2010, 02:23:58 PM
Im not sure if you can change your vote or vote more than once it doesnt give me the option. Or I'm just not seeing the where the option is.

Also if you want to see a really good short lived TV show with Lee Pace check out Wonderfalls
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 02:56:51 PM
Lee Pace looks too "sexy" and small for me. If they could get Bruce Campbell from 10-15 years ago I'd go for that.

Lee Pace is too small !?!?! He is 6'3"
Too sexy.....maybe. I think he would be appropriately attractive to play Harry.
I do love "Army of Darkness Bruce Campbell" though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 02:58:07 PM
In the pics I see he looks small. Maybe it's the facial features.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 25, 2010, 03:01:30 PM
I think he's talelr then every other actor on the list though. A couple of those guys are only 5'7"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 03:09:57 PM
Campbell is 6'1", which is relatively tall for the standard actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 03:31:47 PM
Campbell is 6'1", which is relatively tall for the standard actor.

Definitely!

However I was thinking more along the lines of an actual possibility, Bruce is a little old and I don't want to divert too far from real potentials because if we start resurrecting actors and reversing ages we will get suggestions like Humphrey Bogart, Vincent Price, or Clint Eastwood.

Theoretically if time were no issue, sure I would nominate Bruce.

Bruce Campbell recently (Feburary 2009):
(http://media.avclub.com/images/articles/article/23651/bruce-campbell_jpg_595x325_crop_upscale_q85.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Brightbane on May 25, 2010, 03:50:07 PM
Weird. The poll says that I voted for Zach Quinto. It's lies! By my count Lee should be at 3 or 4.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on May 25, 2010, 04:04:43 PM
Someone mentioned it, and I am stuck on my vote for Other - Neil Flynn.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 04:09:35 PM
Someone mentioned it, and I am stuck on my vote for Other - Neil Flynn.

I have to draw the line somewhere.

Neil Flynn is not making the poll, I loved Scrubs and all, but this guy is way too goofy to play Harry Dresden.

How many of the books have you read?!?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on May 25, 2010, 04:17:34 PM
I have read all of them, but take away the goofy. 

You dont have to put it up there, as its my suggestion.  I can really see it though, as said without the goofy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 04:20:05 PM
I did a few changes to my male cast:

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 04:31:26 PM
I have read all of them, but take away the goofy. 

You dont have to put it up there, as its my suggestion.  I can really see it though, as said without the goofy.

Whoa! Calm down, I am not saying your suggestion is goofy. IMO that actor is goofy, no need to get defensive buddy, just my opinion. If anyone has ever seen Scrubs I think they would agree, unless we are talking about a different Neil Flynn. Am I talking about the same Neil Flynn?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on May 25, 2010, 04:41:26 PM
yeah - sorry man - I typed quickly not really reading.  I did not take no offense.  I was thinking ok, take Neil Flynn - but minus the goofiness from scrubs.

I think he could pull off the Sarcastic sense of humor, and the look. 

We are talking about the same Neil Flynn. 

I apologize for my last post - this one was deff more thought out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 04:44:17 PM
Neil Flynn has a life outside of Scrubs. He's been on Last Comic Standing and about a dozen movies, including the last Indiana Jones. However, he looks like he's a bit too old.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 04:59:02 PM
That seems like a reasonable argument. I guess we should leave it to the voters to decide, so I will add Neil Flynn up there since I have seen him suggested on other threads too.

Also I didn't mean for the "how many of the books have you read" question to sound like an insult, it was an honest question, many people have made suggestions based off only reading the first couple of books, and IMO if you haven't read all them you wouldn't be able to picture the difference in Harry from the first book to the 12th book. And none of us know what Harry will be like by book 24, except maybe Jim Butcher.

Spread the poll around too. We only have 15 votes. I think we should at least get 100 votes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 05:04:11 PM
Heh, none of us know what Harry will be like after book 12 TBH.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 25, 2010, 06:08:49 PM
perhaps he'll come back as a woman...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 06:12:07 PM
It might fix is problem with refusing people of the fairer sex.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on May 25, 2010, 06:41:27 PM
I was involved in this same debate in another forum, I felt that my favourite choice for Harry from that conversation was Sean Patrick Flannery, although as someone mentioned, he is a bit too short.
In my mind, I've always cast Rashid as Morgan Freeman and ever since seeing Morgan in the Storm Front comic, he's been Sean Connery, although I do quite like the idea of Connery as McCoy. I've debated Alan Rickman as Nicodemus, no one can do creepy as well as he can, but I'm really not sure if his voice fits.
I like the idea of Helena Bohnam Carter as Mavra, but personally, I'd prefer her a Mab, she's just so good at playing characters that are anywhere from slightly odd to completely insane. Maybe I just want her to have a bigger role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Der Sturmbrecher on May 25, 2010, 06:44:12 PM
Miranda Richardson as Mab. She has experience, after all...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 25, 2010, 06:49:23 PM
What about Gary Oldman as Nicodemus
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Knight Disciple on May 25, 2010, 06:54:02 PM
I did a few changes to my male cast:

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en)
Offhand, yeah, this feels like a much better selection. Though I still prefer Sean Bean for Michael. I always imagined Michael with a fairly square jaw; Viggo doesn't quite have it. But that's a comparatively minor quibble.

I'm of the mind it's always better to have actors who are "too young"; these days, aging someone older is easier than aging them younger, and seems more natural on-screen.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Der Sturmbrecher on May 25, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
What about Gary Oldman as Nicodemus

Not saying he couldn't do it, but Oldman seems the wrong type for that character. For Nicodemus, I get more of a Jason Isaacs, Mark Strong kind of vibe.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 25, 2010, 06:57:32 PM
jason isaacs...

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sorry, had to go back and lie down for a while there.

yup, he would do a great nic.
if he could play it a little straighter what about jack black for mort lundqvist?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on May 25, 2010, 07:02:57 PM
I'm of the mind it's always better to have actors who are "too young"; these days, aging someone older is easier than aging them younger, and seems more natural on-screen.
I remember reading something about this being the reason the characters in Watchmen were cast as much younger actors, that way the same actors could be used for a scene in that takes place in the 60's as a scene in the 80's

I suppose you just countered the comment I was about to make anout Jet Li seeming a bit young for Shiro, I always pictured Shiro as looking sonething like Mr Miyagi, the stereotypical "old, wise martial arts master look". (which I might add, none of the 3 "old, wise martial arts masters" I've met have.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Knight Disciple on May 25, 2010, 07:12:28 PM
I remember reading something about this being the reason the characters in Watchmen were cast as much younger actors, that way the same actors could be used for a scene in that takes place in the 60's as a scene in the 80's

I suppose you just countered the comment I was about to make anout Jet Li seeming a bit young for Shiro, I always pictured Shiro as looking sonething like Mr Miyagi, the stereotypical "old, wise martial arts master look". (which I might add, none of the 3 "old, wise martial arts masters" I've met have.)
I always had Mr. Miyagi in mind.  :D

But since that actor passed away, yeah. Jet Li is pretty solid.

I will note that "aging up" only works if you're artificially aging someone from "adulthood" to "later adulthood". Like, 20s to 50s, or something. Too young, and it'll look fake.

And I dunno, I could see Oldman pulling off Nicky boy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 25, 2010, 07:15:51 PM
as long as they dont make him look like glen close again
(http://imgtn2.ask.com/ts?t=8174923206368313495&pid=23120&ppid=1)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on May 25, 2010, 07:32:23 PM
as long as they dont make him look like glen close again
(http://imgtn2.ask.com/ts?t=8174923206368313495&pid=23120&ppid=1)

Now that you mention her... she might be able to do Man or Lea
I don't know why, this just suddenly popped into my mind, but one of the Mothers should be Betty White.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 25, 2010, 07:34:11 PM
oh yeah, mother summer

with geraldine mcewan as mother winter
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 07:34:52 PM
What about Gary Oldman as Nicodemus

Was already done before this post  ;)

Not saying he couldn't do it, but Oldman seems the wrong type for that character. For Nicodemus, I get more of a Jason Isaacs, Mark Strong kind of vibe.

Jason Isaacs... I forgot about him. Yeah he could probably pull it off.

But Oldman is versatile, he played Dracula and Zorg in Fifth element just to name a couple of characters that make him suitable for the role.

Of course Isaacs was Lucius Malfoy, an evil wizard, definitely qualifies him for the Dresden Cast.

I always pictured Shiro as looking sonething like Mr Miyagi, the stereotypical "old, wise martial arts master look".

Me too, unfortunately Pat Morita is no longer, and I couldn't think of too many suitable replacments. A couple others I considered were Ken Wantanabe, George Takei, and Randall Duk Kim.

I guess it's worth mentioning that Jackie Chan will be taking Pat Morita's place in the new Karate Kid movie. But I think they mean to go a bit of a different direction, like more comedy.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 07:43:57 PM
as long as they dont make him look like glen close again
(http://imgtn2.ask.com/ts?t=8174923206368313495&pid=23120&ppid=1)

LOL! Maybe Gary Oldman can be Mavra.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 07:59:01 PM
My second choice for Waldo Butters is Paul Reubens. Coincidentally this is a scene from Pushing Daisies.

(http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/paul-reubens_l.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 08:02:40 PM
I've put this in another thread, but Ebenezar should be Wilford Brimley.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 08:14:05 PM
Ebenezar should be Wilford Brimley.

I also considered him, but I think he is in poor health now and probably couldn't manage some of the scenes.
What made me think of him originally was his role as Uncle Douvee in Hard Target.

Someone mentioned Tommy Lee Jones for Eb in another thread. That I could actually see.
(http://www.nikohk.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/tommy-lee-jones-cannes-2005-nicolas-guerin.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aakaakaak on May 25, 2010, 08:19:04 PM
Clint Eastwood could probably do Eb. He's still mobile enough. He's even got the truck from the last movie he did.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 25, 2010, 08:44:36 PM
Clint Eastwood could probably do Eb. He's still mobile enough. He's even got the truck from the last movie he did.

Gran Torino Clint Eastwood.....I like it! Definitely could work.

I wish Clint Eastwood were young again so they could make The Gunslinger, but that book series ended up be crap by the last 3 books, so no huge loss if they never make that a movie.
IMO i think Viggo Mortisen could be the new Clint Eastwood, granted not as good as, but a good replacement if they make any Gunslinger movies.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on May 26, 2010, 05:29:48 AM
Has anyone checked the height on any of these harry actors? I know Zachary Quinto is 6' 1-2" but what about the rest? could be Clive Owen or some of these others are a friggin' dwarf in real life.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 26, 2010, 12:33:35 PM
Has anyone checked the height on any of these harry actors? I know Zachary Quinto is 6' 1-2" but what about the rest? could be Clive Owen or some of these others are a friggin' dwarf in real life.

Zachary Quinto - 6'2"
Lee Pace - 6'3"
Ryan Reynolds - anywhere between 6'1" and 6'3" (bit of an argument over his height there)
Hugh Jackman - 6'2"
Clive Owen - 6'2" and a half
Adrian Brody - 6'1"
Paul Bettany - 6'3"
Timothy Olyphant - 6' 0" even
Nathan Fillion - 6'1" and a half
Hugh Laurie - 6'2" and a half
Joe Flanigan - 6'2"
Chris Evans - 6'0" and a half
Gerard Butler - 6'2"
Neil Flynn - 6'5"



There ya go, hank!

for the record, Jared Padalecki, who looks a helluva lot like Harry on the cover of Welcome to the Jungle (I mean, seriously. It's eerie, the resemblance, there) is 6'4". And he just got done portraying a morally ambiguous hunter for the season on Supernatural. And he's 27 this year, which fits around what Harry's age may be in Storm Front. Just saying :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 26, 2010, 01:18:20 PM
wow I could have sworn that I lot of them were under 6'
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 26, 2010, 01:59:57 PM
Lee Pace! Lee Pace! Lee Pace!
(http://www.thepiemaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/lee_pace3.jpg)(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7400000/Lee-lee-pace-7437603-996-1425.jpg)(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/drenchrome/001-4.jpg)(http://www.lizandlaura.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/lee-pace-2.jpg)

Vote for Lee!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 26, 2010, 02:25:55 PM
wow I could have sworn that I lot of them were under 6'

Nope! They're all stupidly tall. The only issue is which one of them can be made to look as though they're 3 inches shy of 7 feet tall?

(again, this is from the back of Welcome to The Jungle -- Jim says that Harry is absurdly tall -- about 6'9". Which I find makes his relationship to Murphy hilarious, given that she's 5'0" even [according to Blood Rites].)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fivestyle on May 26, 2010, 02:33:11 PM
to be honest it really doesn't matter how tall they are. Hollywood has ways around it. IE James Marsden playing Cyclops and Tom Cruise playing well anything. Both are short actors but have played tall roles
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Brightbane on May 26, 2010, 03:31:36 PM
Nope! They're all stupidly tall. The only issue is which one of them can be made to look as though they're 3 inches shy of 7 feet tall?

(again, this is from the back of Welcome to The Jungle -- Jim says that Harry is absurdly tall -- about 6'9". Which I find makes his relationship to Murphy hilarious, given that she's 5'0" even [according to Blood Rites].)
I've always wondered how Jim never mentions Harry's problems with doorways or ceilings. I'm only 6'7" and I was getting pissed with how small the doors in chicago were. People never realize how low some public ceilings can be.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 26, 2010, 05:04:31 PM
I think your supposed to assume that he has a whole gandalf in bagend thing going on when he goes through doors, at least i always did
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 26, 2010, 05:09:15 PM
I've always wondered how Jim never mentions Harry's problems with doorways or ceilings. I'm only 6'7" and I was getting pissed with how small the doors in chicago were. People never realize how low some public ceilings can be.

Well, he's mentioned it when Harry goes to MacAnally's. Every once in a while, he mentions that he has to duck because the 13 ceiling fans are all low-hanging :)

... now I have an image in my head of Harry turning to walk through a doorway, only to bonk himself in the forehead with the door frame.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 26, 2010, 05:10:25 PM
... now I have an image in my head of Harry turning to walk through a doorway, only to bonk himself in the forehead with the door frame.
this i can see
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atomsk on May 26, 2010, 05:36:17 PM
I hate being 6', I feel short.  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 26, 2010, 05:49:56 PM
i hate to say it but lee pace to me looks more like whatsisname the private eye from turn coat
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Baron Hazard on May 26, 2010, 06:25:34 PM
go go Nathan Fillion! I... Am a genius ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 27, 2010, 05:01:12 PM
Well my post @ McAnally's (The Friendly Pub) is down for renovations so I am back here posting my thoughts about dream casting. I noticed some things on here I missed before.

I saw Johnny Depp mentioned, I love Johnny (Jack Sparrow, Willy Wonka, Ed Scissorhands, etc.) but I just can't see him in the Dresden Files movie. Others I like but can't see in this are Brad Pitt, Ed Norton, Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks, Russel Crowe, Mel Gibson, Kevin Spacey, Jude Law, Christopher Walken, Joaquin Phoenix, Benecio Del Toro, ....the list goes on, the point is I just don't think they have the right feel for this.

Someone said Billy Connolly as Eb. I like him a lot, Boondock Saints is one of my favorites. He has the look but I have never heard Billy Connolly do a southern accent. Can he do it? Other Tommy Lee Jones, didn't like this idea at first but after seeing some recent images of Tommy Lee Jones, I think it could work, he can definitely do Kentucty Fried. Sam Elliot was mentioned too, I can't picture him as a wizard (even though he was in Golden Compass).

A lot of people see Salma Hayek as Susan, but I think she just wouldn't fit as the love interest of anyone cast as Harry. Salma is great, she does sci-fi/fantasy well (from Dusk til Dawn, Vampires Assistant) but I can't see her as Susan, maybe Bianca........actually I like that since the Red Courts power base is sort of south american.

Gary Oldman....well just check out my cast below.

I keep hearing Tilda Swinton as Winter Queen (because she played the Winter Witch in Narnia). However, Mab is suppose to be like Drop Dead Georgous and to me Tilda Swinton just doesn't really fit that. See who i chose.

I had Danny Trejo as Injun Joe, but someone mention Wes Studi and I liked that idea better.

Ian McKellan (Gandolf) I can't see him as the Merlin, I don't know if he can be as pretencious as the Merlin. Although as Magneto he did a pretty good job. I would like to see Ian somewhere in this but I can't think of where, thought about having him as the Gatekeeper, but Rashid is middle eastern.

I have Christopher Lee as my Merlin, I thought he would make a good Lord Raith, but many say no way. Other suggestion for Raith was Vincent Cassel. I can see that, but can Cassel do an American accent yet? I think he still has a French accent and I don't know if that would work for Lord Raith.

I have Viggo Mortisen (Aragorn LOTR) as my Michael , but someone mentioned him (Eastern Promises) as Marcone. That would be a good alternate role.

Stuart Townsend as Thomas.......yeah he played a vampire....but did he play it well? He also played Dorian Gray in LOEG. Have to say no to Townsend, I am a huge fan of Anne Rice's Vampire and Witch chronicles and the Queen of the Damned movie just didn't do the books any justice, so unfortunately Townsend gets lumped in with that dissapointment of a movie.

Tim Roth as Kincaid. I can't see that. I love Tim Roth, but can't see him as Kincaid even after his role in The Hulk. I see Roth more as one of the villians, like maybe a Denarius or White Court Vamp. Someone also said Alexander Skarsgard as Kincaid. I can't see that either, I love Skarsgard too, and I squeezed him in my fake cast, but he just can't top who I have as Kincaid. (D@mn it all! Alexander Skarsgard should be THOR in the movie, but they got the dude that was in Star Trek for a whole 2 minutes)

Haven't added this to my cast pdf, but definitely see Bruce Wills as Mac.

Updated Cast:
Male Casthttp://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en)
Female Casthttp://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANzdkMzVmYzQtNmU1OS00YmNlLWJjZDItMDYyMzg3NTlhMWQ2&hl=en (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANzdkMzVmYzQtNmU1OS00YmNlLWJjZDItMDYyMzg3NTlhMWQ2&hl=en)

Some runner-ups or actors that didn't make my cast....yet (there are still more books coming) and are not already mentioned above are:
guys: Ray Stevenson, Jame McAvoy, Kevin Durand, Liev Schreiber, Michael Sheen, Geoffrey Rush, Gil Birmingham, Crispin Glover, Cristoph Waltz, Jeremy Irons,
gals: Tea Leoni, Sienna Miller, Emma Watson, Michelle Trachtenberg, Hayden Panetierre, Lily Cole
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on May 27, 2010, 05:06:51 PM
*handwave*  I ignore your foolish belief that Kevin Spacey wouldn't fit.  The man's the most versatile actor working in Hollywood with maybe the exception of Gary Oldman.  He's my Nicodemus and any suggestions to the contrary do not exist in my reality. ;D

Just a note that Eb is not Southern.  He's from Missouri.  That's not the South.  It's the midwest.  The question would be if Billy could do a midwestern mountain man accent, but I agree that would be a concern.  On looks and 'tude, though, he's aces and it's one of my favorite suggestions to come out of this thread.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 27, 2010, 05:34:26 PM
i can see kevin spacy as nico, but i like gary oldman more as nico
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 27, 2010, 05:34:59 PM
Ebenezar is a freaking Scotsman
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 27, 2010, 05:45:33 PM
Is he? i could never really tell.  ??? :-[ :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 27, 2010, 05:47:02 PM
Ebenezar is a freaking Scotsman


He is. They even mention it in the books, particularly when he gets reminiscent, or when Harry (or someone else, but it's usually Harry) pisses him off. His Scots burr comes through. He's just been living in/owned the farm in Hog Hollow for so long that the Scots burr has diminished significantly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 27, 2010, 05:47:27 PM
*handwave*  I ignore your foolish belief that Kevin Spacey wouldn't fit.  The man's the most versatile actor working in Hollywood with maybe the exception of Gary Oldman.  He's my Nicodemus and any suggestions to the contrary do not exist in my reality. ;D

Just a note that Eb is not Southern.  He's from Missouri.  That's not the South.  It's the midwest.  The question would be if Billy could do a midwestern mountain man accent, but I agree that would be a concern.  On looks and 'tude, though, he's aces and it's one of my favorite suggestions to come out of this thread.

Oldman is my Nic. I love Kevin Spacey (Kaiser Souzai), but I don't think he could nail Nicodemus, he is also a bit too old I think. Nicodemus is suppose to be like 30ish, and though Oldman is about 50, he still looks pretty young with some makeup. If Oldman wasn't an option I could see Spacey playing Nic.

*burn* I stand corrected, your right about Eb being midwestern, not southern. Connolly has it all, but I would have to hear him do a midwestern accent. For practicality though I can see Rip Torn (Dodgeball) and Tommy Lee Jones (No Country for Old Men) pulling off the accent and attitude, with the exception that they may not be convincinng as wizards when they have to start slinging magic around. (coincidentally they were both in MIB)

Ebenezar is a freaking Scotsman

Maybe so, but he has spent his last few decades as Midwestern, so for all practical purposes he is midwestern.

If he was still a very Scottish Scotsman I would have probably cast someone like Sean Connery.....in a kilt.....with a bagpipe. Or grounds keeper Willy from the Simpsons.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on May 27, 2010, 05:48:52 PM
Sean Connery would probably work actually.
In overalls.  Wow, I would pay to see that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on May 27, 2010, 05:49:52 PM
If he was still a very Scottish Scotsman I would have probably cast someone like Sean Connery.....in a kilt.....with a bagpipe.

Which just might be this side of disturbing. I love Sean Conner, but, uh... no.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on May 27, 2010, 05:51:44 PM
Apropos of nothing but Kevin Spacey's versatility, I had a Kevin Spacey Movie Marathon one night.  Back to back, Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil followed by K-Pax.  I almost broke something in my brain.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 27, 2010, 06:03:02 PM
Apropos of nothing but Kevin Spacey's versatility, I had a Kevin Spacey Movie Marathon one night.  Back to back, Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil followed by K-Pax.  I almost broke something in my brain.

I totally agree on Spacey's versatility, but I think Oldman has him beat on that count.

Oldman: Dracula, True Romance as Drexl Spivey, Stansfield in The Professional/Leon, Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg in Fifth Element, Mason Verger in Hannibal, Rolfe (a midget) in Tiptoes,  Sirius Black in Harry Potter, Jim Gordon in Batman, Carnegie in the Book of Eli.


I am just hitting the highlights. I bolded his role as Sirius because I think that is relevant to the subject matter here.

Spacey plays great roles but nothing as far out as Oldman has accomplished.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on May 27, 2010, 06:06:27 PM
Oh no, I agree that Oldman's crazy-versatile.   I just have a soft spot for Spacey. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 27, 2010, 08:15:19 PM
My favorite Spacey role is Verbal in Usual Suspects.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on May 28, 2010, 11:33:12 AM
Screw it - let's get BOTH of them in on any Butcher screen version. The screen would explode from the overload of awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 28, 2010, 02:37:00 PM
This is slightly off topic, but I thought it interesting how Nicolas Cage is the Executive Producer of the Dresden Files TV show and now he is going to play a "sorcerer" in this upcoming film (another Disney movie by the way).

The Sorcerer's Apprentice (2010)
Balthazar Blake (Nicolas Cage) is a master sorcerer in modern-day Manhattan trying to defend the city from his arch-nemesis, Maxim Horvath (Alfred Molina). Balthazar can't do it alone, so he recruits Dave Stutler (Jay Baruchel), a seemingly average guy who demonstrates hidden potential, as his reluctant protégé. The sorcerer gives his unwilling accomplice a crash course in the art and science of magic, and together, these unlikely partners work to stop the forces of darkness. It'll take all the courage Dave can muster to survive his training, save the city and get the girl as he becomes The Sorcerer's Apprentice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on May 28, 2010, 03:01:42 PM
This is slightly off topic, but I thought it interesting how Nicolas Cage is the Executive Producer of the Dresden Files TV show and now he is going to play a "sorcerer" in this upcoming film (another Disney movie by the way).

The Sorcerer's Apprentice (2010)
Balthazar Blake (Nicolas Cage) is a master sorcerer in modern-day Manhattan trying to defend the city from his arch-nemesis, Maxim Horvath (Alfred Molina). Balthazar can't do it alone, so he recruits Dave Stutler (Jay Baruchel), a seemingly average guy who demonstrates hidden potential, as his reluctant protégé. The sorcerer gives his unwilling accomplice a crash course in the art and science of magic, and together, these unlikely partners work to stop the forces of darkness. It'll take all the courage Dave can muster to survive his training, save the city and get the girl as he becomes The Sorcerer's Apprentice.


heh, there's a thread dedicated to that in Media Favorites. xD

his costume DOES look heavily inspired by DF covers, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on May 28, 2010, 04:49:18 PM
heh, there's a thread dedicated to that in Media Favorites. xD

his costume DOES look heavily inspired by DF covers, though.

Wow! Am I super late or what. That thread was started like 6 months ago.
There is a good argument on there though that maybe it isn't a rip off of Dresden but more of a salute to it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on May 28, 2010, 04:56:47 PM
Wow! Am I super late or what. That thread was started like 6 months ago.
There is a good argument on there though that maybe it isn't a rip off of Dresden but more of a salute to it.

I personally think it's more of a salute than a rip off.

I don't think he'd call it a rip off, anyway. Fans would rip off his head for that... ha, ha.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on May 28, 2010, 10:04:07 PM
Speaking of Sorcerer's Apprentice and it's eerie resemblance to Dresden covers... Anyone seen the posters for Jonas Hex? ;)

(http://jonasdiego.com/theblurb/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jonah-hex.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on May 28, 2010, 10:27:42 PM
The Jonah Hex movie is going to suck royally. They're turning a fairly low key comic into a bunch of Micheal Bay blockbuster bullshit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on May 28, 2010, 11:37:05 PM
Speaking of Sorcerer's Apprentice and it's eerie resemblance to Dresden covers... Anyone seen the posters for Jonas Hex? ;)

(http://jonasdiego.com/theblurb/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jonah-hex.jpg)
Meh this one I think we can write off as simply a similar style.  Jonah's been dressing that way for a lot longer than Dresden.  I try to remain optimistic about this movie myself, the trailers don't look so bad.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 01, 2010, 01:25:28 PM
I thought it looked interesting, but I also immediately thought of "The Gunslinger" by Stephen King, though the story is not at all the same, really the only similarity is supernatural and gunslinger. I hated the later 3 Dark Tower books though, why is it everytime someone goes hollywood there stuff seems to start degrading into crap. Well not really....I only have two in mind Stephen King and George Lucas, the further they climbed, the worse they got.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on June 02, 2010, 08:09:23 AM
sorry saw a pic of demi lovato and thought - Maggie in a few years- well she's got the chin , and i think she has hispanic and european hertitage. Alot of people probably gonna say no. meh

(http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Demi+Lovato+Launches+New+Disney+TV+Music+Season+-4YuxnNiBP3l.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Paynesgrey on June 02, 2010, 09:42:43 PM
My favorite Spacey role is Verbal in Usual Suspects.

Probably why in "casting" the Alera books I keep putting his face on Fidelius.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kyre on June 02, 2010, 09:57:14 PM
I have a friend who i think would be perfect for Molly. She's about the same age, just as quirky, attractive and wild crazy hair (which this week is blood red!) I can't read about Molly without thinking of my friend

(when i get her permission to post a pic, i'll pop one up!)

Ok, got her permission! :P

So, my friend who reminds me of Molly!

(http://thumbnails2.imagebam.com/8316/37e94d83153334.gif) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/37e94d83153334/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: caforever99 on June 03, 2010, 06:00:12 PM
How about Tilda Swinton as Mab and Viggo Mortensen as Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on June 04, 2010, 03:47:21 PM
Interesting, guess I'll do a partial list of my own:
Harry Dresden - Chris Evans http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0262635/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0262635/) Specifically check Push for his action and grungy abilities, and the Fantastic Four films for wit and wryness as the Human Torch.
Thomas Raith - Brad Pitt.  The first Dresden Files book I read was Small Favor, and I immediately pictured him in that role.
~Papa Raith - Vincent Cassel.  See Ocean's Twelve for the raw menace he can portray, and just as quickly change it to suave affability.
~Lara Raith -
Ebenezar McCoy - Rip Torn.  The man's name and look bring to mind images of an aging wolverine, which I think suits Eb perfectly.
~Ancient Mai -
~Arthur Langtry - Sir Ian McKellan.  I would've said Sirs Ian Holm or Christopher Lee, but the first is kind of on the small side and Lee is too outright-menacing :D
~Joseph Listens-to-Wind -
~Martha Liberty -
~Rashid - Alexander Siddig.  He played the man Orlando Bloom spared in Kingdom of Heaven, who turned out to be Saladin's Chancellor.  A very witty, but grave, guy.
~Aleron LaFortier -
~Gregori Cristos - Bill Nighy.  He'll be playing Rufus Scrimgeour in the last Harry Potter film, which I see as kind of similar in appearance to this role.
Michael Carpenter - Jeremy Irons.  Seen the Kingdom of Heaven?
~Molly Carpenter - Dakota Fanning.  Again, see Push.
~Charity Carpenter - Sandra Bullock.  Yep.
Mab -
~Maeve - Megan Fox.  I hate hate hate her, which I think would be great fuel for this role.
~Lloyd Slate - Viggo Mortenson.  I think it would be a great role for him, definitely breaking the mould from how he usually performs.
~Leahansidhe -
Uriel - Morgan Freeman.  He's done God before, yeah, but I can't get him out of my head for playing Uriel (all shape-shifting aside!).
Mac - Bruce Willis.  Done.

Wooh!  I'll fill in the blanks later.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Strange on June 04, 2010, 10:14:58 PM
I feel the need to post Lee Pace again... just cus I'm re-watching Pushing Daisies and I think he'd be perfect as Harry.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvyny0fUTF1qa1vdfo1_r2_500.jpg)
(http://22.media.tumblr.com/pLGmhUf5Qk9jrkd4Z3L0gJE1o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MeGyver on June 05, 2010, 01:46:01 AM
Ok, so here is my fan cast, given an unlimited budget, good prevailing winds and a proper alignment of the planets.

Director(yes, I even thought about this): Joss Whedon
Producer: J.J. Abrams (Moar lenseflare)
Screen Play: Jim Butcher

Harry: Nathan Fillion (For his delivery, I know he doesn't have the perfect look, but the other actors I considered as Harry don't have the presence to carry a movie)
Murphy: Elizabeth Banks  http://images.dailyradar.com/media/uploads/showhype/photos_large/2008/09/15/tn2_elizabeth_banks_4.jpg
Bob: (Depending on what we're going for with the movie) Hugh Laurie's voice (for a darker film), Alan Tudyk (lighter, more action-comedy style)
Thomas: Sean Maher
Molly:
The Archive: Elle Fanning (Dakota's all grown up, time for Elle to take up the mantle of playing creepy ethereal children.
Michael: Eric Bana (lighten his hair a bit)   http://laughinggasonline.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/eric-bana.jpg
Gerald Butler  http://trobentica.blog.siol.net/files/2008/11/gerardbutler.jpg
http://littlejunkies.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/gerard-butler.jpg
Paul Bettany  http://topazbean.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/bettany-chaucer.jpg
Charity Carpenter: Laura Linney
Ebenezar McCoy: Sean Connery or Gene Hackman
Marcone: Robert Downey Jr.
Morgan: Anthony Hopkins (Circa 10 Years ago) or Liam Neeson
Lara Raith: Angelina Jolie
Carlos Ramirez: Jon Huertas
Susan: Cote De Pablo
Butters: Brian Dietzen (already played an ME)
Johnny Galecki (adorkable)
John Francis Daley
T.J. Thyne
Mortimer Linquist (because it's my fancast): Nicholas Brendon
Lasciel/Lash: Scarlett Johansson
Nicodemus: Hugh Laurie (if not bob)
Christian Bale (I don't like him at all, but he did restrained crazy well)
Paul Bettany (if not Michael)
Simon Baker
Lea: Cate Blanchette
Summer Queen: Nicole Kidman
Justine: Dakota Fanning
Maeve: Christina Ricci
Toot-Toot: Anton Yelchin

All I've got for now.
LLAP

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 05, 2010, 05:06:47 AM
Ok, so here is my fan cast, given an unlimited budget, good prevailing winds and a proper alignment of the planets.

Director(yes, I even thought about this): Joss Whedon
Producer: J.J. Abrams (Moar lenseflare)
Screen Play: Jim Butcher

Harry: Nathan Fillion (For his delivery, I know he doesn't have the perfect look, but the other actors I considered as Harry don't have the presence to carry a movie)
Murphy: Elizabeth Banks  http://images.dailyradar.com/media/uploads/showhype/photos_large/2008/09/15/tn2_elizabeth_banks_4.jpg
Bob: (Depending on what we're going for with the movie) Hugh Laurie's voice (for a darker film), Alan Tudyk (lighter, more action-comedy style)
Thomas: Sean Maher
Molly:
The Archive: Elle Fanning (Dakota's all grown up, time for Elle to take up the mantle of playing creepy ethereal children.
Michael: Eric Bana (lighten his hair a bit)   http://laughinggasonline.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/eric-bana.jpg
Gerald Butler  http://trobentica.blog.siol.net/files/2008/11/gerardbutler.jpg
http://littlejunkies.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/gerard-butler.jpg
Paul Bettany  http://topazbean.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/bettany-chaucer.jpg
Charity Carpenter: Laura Linney
Ebenezar McCoy: Sean Connery or Gene Hackman
Marcone: Robert Downey Jr.
Morgan: Anthony Hopkins (Circa 10 Years ago) or Liam Neeson
Lara Raith: Angelina Jolie
Carlos Ramirez: Jon Huertas
Susan: Cote De Pablo
Butters: Brian Dietzen (already played an ME)
Johnny Galecki (adorkable)
John Francis Daley
T.J. Thyne
Mortimer Linquist (because it's my fancast): Nicholas Brendon
Lasciel/Lash: Scarlett Johansson
Nicodemus: Hugh Laurie (if not bob)
Christian Bale (I don't like him at all, but he did restrained crazy well)
Paul Bettany (if not Michael)
Simon Baker
Lea: Cate Blanchette
Summer Queen: Nicole Kidman
Justine: Dakota Fanning
Maeve: Christina Ricci
Toot-Toot: Anton Yelchin

All I've got for now.
LLAP



I VOTE THIS!!!!!

but I'm still holding out for J3nee's Matt Bomer as Thomas. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on June 05, 2010, 06:44:32 AM
Well, I totally just got destroyed  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 05, 2010, 06:51:35 AM
Well, I totally just got destroyed  :D

I liked Ian McKellen for your choice.

and I forgot to not approve of Fanning as Justine. Heh.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on June 05, 2010, 08:24:56 AM
The biggest problem I have casting the under 40's is that you have to constantly change around as your mind's favorites are ground down by papa time.
With that in mind I was looking at some younger folk for the roles here, and saw what I thought was a good fit for Murphy, not quite old enough now, but fine by the time any likely shooting would start:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1689872/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1689872/)  Alisoon Haislip.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: graogrim on June 05, 2010, 04:06:08 PM
Ok. I only have one firm suggestion, and I fully realize that it's kind of out there, but I can't help it. This guy is whose face popped into my mind as soon as I was introduced to John Marcone: Howie Mandel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on June 05, 2010, 06:11:25 PM
oh, you're kidding me! Right?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: graogrim on June 05, 2010, 10:27:50 PM
I am completely serious. I mean think about it: Take Howie, add a few pounds and a little bit of gray on the sides, and he is totally gangster material. I can't help it. In my mind, that is the face of Gentleman John Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on June 05, 2010, 11:40:35 PM
all righty then.... Actually, the more I think about it, the less ridiculous it sounds. But he'd have to grow hair again.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: graogrim on June 06, 2010, 01:25:02 AM
He's gotta stay shiny on top. A little on the sides should be ok though. I mean *just* a little.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jadis402010 on June 06, 2010, 01:47:06 AM
I don't know, when I read the books, when it comes to Thomas, I don't picture Matt Bomer...sorry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 06, 2010, 01:49:39 AM
I must ask, who is this matt bomer? sorry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on June 06, 2010, 01:50:40 AM
I must ask, who is this matt bomer? sorry


Star of "White Collar". Handsome dude.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: graogrim on June 06, 2010, 03:53:07 AM
Yeah I gotta say when I read Thomas, I don't even picture a real person. More like something out of anime.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 06, 2010, 04:01:52 AM
Star of "White Collar". Handsome dude.
Thanks, just looked him up, got to say, i can see him as thomas, but i can't at the same time
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 06, 2010, 05:17:28 AM
The sad thing is... when I read Changes I absolutely saw Matt Bomer in the role of Thomas from the moment I started reading. The only issue I have is as I finished the book up i had to change my mind about if I really wanted him to play that role as it plays out. But I can see him doing it. It just popped out in my mind that he could do it and he was there as I read. It was like WHOA :D And when I read I see the scenes as if I'm watching a movie or tv show. So as I think of people who could play the role they either pop in immediately or over time as i reread the books.

But that's just my take... along with that yummy Thomas looking pic of him here:

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

And I will keep posting that pic to get more of you girls getting the 'vapors" from looking at him. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: aboutnici on June 06, 2010, 12:57:35 PM
For Molly Carpenter, I would cast Amanda Seyfried for that role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 07, 2010, 05:30:59 PM
For Molly Carpenter, I would cast Amanda Seyfried for that role.

That's not bad, but Amanda Seyfried is 25 years old, and Dakota Fanning is 16/17 which is about the same age as Molly is in the current storyline. Dakota could age with the movies, Seyfried might be a little to old to do that.

Plus D. Fanning roles in Push and Twilight Saga give her a little more clout to play this role.

I could see Seyfried playing some part in this though, I think she would make a good villian, I have seen her do some wicked looks in a few of her movies and she pulls it off pretty well. Maybe she should be Nicodemus' daughter. The denarian with the metal tendrils.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 07, 2010, 05:40:17 PM
Matt Bomer as Thomas? I guess he kind of has the look, but I am not familiar with his work, is he a talented actor? what is his best role that makes him a suitable White Court Vampire, specifically Thomas?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on June 07, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
See, that's my problem with Matt Bomer.  Sure he's cute, and he has that one headshot where he looks menacing/sexy, but I've never seen him do menacing/sexy.  Both in Chuck and now in White Collar, he's sort of charming and swashbuckling, but not... what was the phrase?  Predatory angel.  I don't know if he can do the 'tude, and 'tude will get you farther as Thomas in my cast list than just good looks.  Which Bomer has, let's not kid ourselves. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 07, 2010, 10:59:12 PM
The sad thing is... when I read Changes I absolutely saw Matt Bomer in the role of Thomas from the moment I started reading. The only issue I have is as I finished the book up i had to change my mind about if I really wanted him to play that role as it plays out. But I can see him doing it. It just popped out in my mind that he could do it and he was there as I read. It was like WHOA :D And when I read I see the scenes as if I'm watching a movie or tv show. So as I think of people who could play the role they either pop in immediately or over time as i reread the books.

But that's just my take... along with that yummy Thomas looking pic of him here:

http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

And I will keep posting that pic to get more of you girls getting the 'vapors" from looking at him. ;)

*squees rather embarrassingly and runs into bunk*

See, that's my problem with Matt Bomer.  Sure he's cute, and he has that one headshot where he looks menacing/sexy, but I've never seen him do menacing/sexy.  Both in Chuck and now in White Collar, he's sort of charming and swashbuckling, but not... what was the phrase?  Predatory angel.  I don't know if he can do the 'tude, and 'tude will get you farther as Thomas in my cast list than just good looks.  Which Bomer has, let's not kid ourselves. :D

*cough*

erm, anyway, maybe Matt can pull it off. Sure we haven't seen him predatory, but maybe he can, if he's a good enough actor... I liked him in Chuck, and he was good in it, so maybe he could act other roles as well.. I hope...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Treacle Tart on June 08, 2010, 07:38:08 AM
Having read the entire thread, I have come to the conclusion that it is really hard to cast the DF book characters because you have to find actors and actresses who look the parts, and can act! I honestly think that for some of the Sidhe characters, they'd have to be CGI creations, a la Avatar.

For Harry, I definitely agree with the Timothy Olyphant suggestion, especially if he were to grow his hair longer (http://www.thecinemasource.com/blog/movies/catch-and-release/attachment/Catch_and_Release-2-Timothy_Olyphant/). I can also see Lee Pace as Harry. He certainly has the right height (http://www.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/anna-friel-and-lee-pace.jpg). Also, he's used to working with a doggy co-star (http://www.fanpop.com/spots/lee-pace/images/404349/title/lee-pace).

Murphy: I have no frickin' idea! I always picture Murphy as someone built like Hayden Panettiere - petite, muscular, gymnast body. But she's too young and I don't like her anyway. I cannot see Sarah Michelle Gellar in the role as she is way too skinny. There were times on Buffy when I honestly thought she was going to break her stick-like arms when she pretended to pound on the baddies, or even the heavy bag during workouts.

Michael: Definitely agree with the Viggo Mortensen suggestion.

Charity: I like Samantha Ferris (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm159353088/nm0274919), but she is only 5'5". Elizabeth Mitchell from Lost and V would be my second choice although she isn't as solidly built as I would prefer.

Molly: Deborah Ann Woll (http://i49.tinypic.com/352neyx.jpg). Yes, she's 25 but she plays teen vamp Jessica on True Blood, and she's 5'10". Someone suggested Dakota Fanning but she is way too skinny and only 5'2". Molly is supposed to be built like her mother, i.e. like a brick house. Dakota Fanning is built more like a short light house.

Sanya: Boris Kodjoe (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1654822912/nm0462673)

Ivy: That creepy girl (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3257960448/nm2265157) from the movie The Orphan.

Kincaid: Alexander Skarsgard (http://i48.tinypic.com/16gjdg.jpg) or Josh Holloway (http://www.fancast.com/blogs/files/2010/03/sawyers-gotta-gun1.jpg) from Lost.

Carlos Ramirez: Gael Garcia Bernal or Diego Luna

Luccio: If Jennifer Garner is too obvious, how about Carey Mulligan (http://www.awardsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Carey-Mulligan-at-the-Sun-001.jpg)?

Marcone: Jason Isaacs, Ralph Fiennes or Guy Pearce (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm817992704/nm0001602).

Nic: Bill Nighy

Lara Raith: Can't beat the obvious choice, Angelina Jolie

Madeline Raith: Megan Fox

Lord Raith: has to be more handsome than Thomas, so no one comes to my mind.

And lastly...Thomas. I have to admit that I thought of Matt Bomer as well. I can also see Michael Fassbender, who has been mentioned.

I suggest Henry Cavill (http://justjared.buzznet.com/photos/henry-cavill/) from The Tudors. See him with long hair (http://i48.tinypic.com/2r26tfq.jpg), and shirtless, dirty and fighting (http://www.mostbeautifulman.com/news/?p=2451#more-2451).

My personal pick is someone probably no one has heard of! English ballet dancer/actor Will Kemp (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0962261/mediaindex). Dubbed the "James Dean of Ballet," he may be best known for this Gap commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ap5WW80yg) from some years back. Will as the Swan in the all-male version of Swan Lake (http://i46.tinypic.com/wlbnnm.jpg). He's who I picture as Thomas when I read the books.

Also, this poster (http://www.scifiscoop.com/wp-content/gallery/movie-posters/dorian_gray_poster_2.jpg) for Dorian Gray made me think that Ben Barnes (aka Prince Caspian) might be a possible Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on June 09, 2010, 04:02:38 PM
This thought hit me last night, and he might be a bit young but David Mitchell as Wizard Peabody...Just picture him saying "You're an untidy person."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 09, 2010, 05:59:26 PM
@ Treacle Tart

I wish my poll were still up here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18318.0.html),
but unfortunately my thread hasn't been reopened since McAnally's (The Community Pub) renovation.

Anywho Timothy Olyphant didn't do so well in the poll. Personally I was for Lee Pace, but Nathan Fillion was winning before the poll dissappeared. Hugh Jackman, Zachary Quinto and Chris Evans also had more votes than Olyphant as well. But there were only about 23 votes when it closed.

The poll was a rather large selection due to suggestions:
Zachary Quinto
Lee Pace
Ryan Reynolds
Hugh Jackman
Clive Owen
Adrian Brody
Paul Bettany
Timothy Olyphant
Nathan Fillion
Hugh Laurie
Joe Flanigan
Chris Evans
Gerard Butler
Neil Flynn
Jared Paladecki

As I said though the poll never really got a chance to get going with only 23 votes, and Fillion was winning with 6 as I recall. I thought Fillion would make a better Michael if anything.

Michael: Viggo was also my choice, with Sean Bean as runner up, coincidentally Aragorn and Borimir in LOTR.

Murphy: Yeah I have seen a lot of suggestions, and yeah I actually thought of Hayden Panettiere too because of her role in Heroes, but she is too young. In my fake cast I have Naomi Watts for this but I am not 100% satisfied with that fit. Sarad Michelle Gellar....haven't really seen her around lately. Don't get me wrong, I was like head over heels for her back when Buffy started, but I don't think she could be Murphy. Too bad Michelle Pfeiffer is 50ish now, Catwoman Pfeiffer probably would have worked.....maybe....still doesn't fit though.

Charity: I had a hard time with this one too. I have Famke Janssen (http://www.hollywood-celebrity-pictures.com/Celebrities/Famke-Janssen/Famke-Janssen-7.JPG) for this because I could see her playing opposite Viggo, and playing the overprotective mother with a dark secret. Someone suggested Michelle Pfeiffer, but once again she is 50ish and probably wouldn't work opposite Viggo as Michael.

Molly:I do love me some True Blood, and I like Deborah Ann Woll, I can definitely see that, but I still like D Fanning cause I thought she did a great job in Push, and soon we will see her actually get to do some stuff in the next Twilight Saga installment, might make you change your mind, albeit Twilight sux, but I read them all anyway, and her character as one of the Witch Twins, is a pretty cool character.

Sanya: Boris Kodjoe? I know I have seen him before, but I can't really remember him. Does he have an accent, I see he is from Austria, that would probably pass as a Russian accent to most Americans. My choice was Djimon Hounsou (http://top-10-list.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Djimon-Hounsou.jpg), albeit his has an African accent.

Ivy: I still like my choice Chloe Moretz (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/33399.jpg)


Kincaid: I love Alexander Skarsgard, as I already mentioned I love True Blood, and I am so dissapointed he isn't playing Thor in the movie. However, I still see Jason Statham (http://www.seenonrealestate.com/wp-content/gallery/61/actor-jason-statham-pays-10625m-for-3355-square-foot-house-malibu-colony-ca.jpg) as more of a Kincaid the Hellhound.

Ramirez: I like both Gael Garcia Bernal or Diego Luna, but I still go with Freddy Rodríguez (http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/070322/cover/freddy_l.jpg) because he was awesome in Planet Terror.

Luccio: Jennifer Garner.....I just really don't like her. I like your choice of Carey Mulligan. I haven't really seen too much of her stuff but she has a good look. I wonder if she can do an Italian accent.

Marcone: Jason Isaacs I can definitely see him as Tiger Souled, then again remember this (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/news/00020767.jpg), he played an evil wizard in Harry Potter. Ralph Fiennes, also in Harry Potter, I have to say I can't see Lord Voldemort as a mobster. Guy Pearce....maybe, he was pretty awesome in Memento, and he wasn't in Harry Potter.

Nic: Bill Nighy. Yes, Bill Nighy was my first choice (you probably read my post ~_~), but it was pointed out to me that Nic is suppose to look 30ish, so I changed it to Gary Oldman (http://jessefox1968.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/garyoldman.jpg) (coincidentally Sirius Black in Harry Potter), granted Oldman is 50ish, still looks much younger than Nighy.

Lara Raith: Angelina Jolie, yeah that works. I have Angelina down as Lashiel because she has the Temptress thing down. I guess that works for Lara too.

Madeline Raith: Megan Fox, I can't really see her as Madeline. Besides that if you cast Jolie as Lara and Megan as Madeline, there is too much of an age gap there, they should be about the same age. I have Megan as Maeve, the Lady of Winter.

Lord Raith: As suggested by someone else, Vincent Cassal. I think it could work.

Thomas: Thomas is difficult because he has to be able to look enough like Harry that you would think brothers, and also look like the son of Lord Raith and Margaret Lefay. Originally when I thought Clive Owen should play Harry Dresden, I chose Jake Gyllenhaal (http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/gyllenhaal-prince-persia-1.jpg) as my Thomas because I can see the two as being brothers. Now....well I still like him as Thomas.

p.s. if you aren't clicking the links, you are totally missing the context.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Treacle Tart on June 10, 2010, 08:56:18 AM
@ MoSeS_

Re: the poll for who could play Harry

Hmm....I disagree with most of those choices - LOL! I love Nathan Fillion but I cannot see him as Harry at all. He'd make a better Michael but I picture Michael as being older.

Murphy - I think Hayden Panettiere's built is what any actress playing Murphy should have, but Hayden Panettiere would be totally wrong for the role. The problem is finding actresses with that sort of built, especially in Hollywood. Even if they start out with a more solid, muscular body type, they almost inevitably diet and exercise to become your typical skinny size zero. Look at the difference between Buffy S1 Sarah Michelle Gellar, and S2+.

I guess for me, I like to see an actor or actress actually look like the character as described, so when I read many of the suggestions, I just go, too thin! Too scrawny! NOT built like a brickhouse! NOT handsome enough! Too porky! I'm just particular that way.  ;D

Boris Kodjoe for Sanya - Check out this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0K0ben9dy4) of him. Also, he's going to be in the new J.J. Abrams spy series called Undercovers.

Kincaid - I think ASkars trumps Jason Statham any day! Besides, isn't Kincaid supposed to have long blond hair that he wears in a ponytail sometimes? Would be problematic for Jason Statham unless they put him in a hairpiece.

Ramirez - guess I still have bad associations when it comes to Freddy Rodríguez since I mostly know him from Six Feet Under, and I pretty much hated Rico towards the end of that show! Besides, Gael Garcia Bernal would make a very pretty Warden. Albeit, a tad hard to believe as a virgin.....

Bill Nighy for Nic - as much as I am a stickler for "actor must look like character as described in the books," I'll make an exception here as I just love Bill Nighy and he would be awesome as Nic.

Megan Fox as Madeline Raith - I chose Megan as I actually do not care for her. She's been described as the poor man's Angelina Jolie, and to me, she is perfect as the overblown, too-obvious, trying-way-too-hard Madeline. Somehow, I always pictured her as being younger than Lara.

Vincent Cassal as Lord Raith: I agree he has the predatory cruelty quality, but handsomer than Thomas? Any of the Thomases suggested so far? That's a major fail for me.

And I thought of someone for Butters: Simon Pegg! Here he is, with dark hair (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080325/people-simon-pegg/images/b75e5a9b-5524-4a28-a492-73a477ed85da.jpg).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 10, 2010, 11:30:12 AM
I personally think it's more important that they have the attitude of the character (OF COURSE, what they look like is seriously important too), but am just saying. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Blaze on June 10, 2010, 12:54:56 PM
@ Treacle Tart
I wish my poll were still up here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18318.0.html),
but unfortunately my thread hasn't been reopened since McAnally's (The Community Pub) renovation.

You could post a new poll.  Things being moved and removed were simple housekeeping.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 10, 2010, 02:41:48 PM
@Blaze - I could start a new poll, but I then I would have to attract everyone to my new thread.


@Treacle Tart
Kincaid has hair? I thought he was bald.....the whole time I have been reading the books, I must have zoned out when they described his physical appearance and from his attitude I just pictured him bald or kind of military style because he is basically a mercenary, and Statham is playing in that upcoming merc movie The Expendables.

As far as ASkars trumping Statham...AGREED! Eric Northman character is probably my favorite True Blood character, I can't wait til that comes back on. But I picked Statham because I picture Kincaid more rugged, and ASkars is too pretty for the Kincaid in my head, he did play a Meekus (green shirt) in Zoolander after all.
ORANGE MOCA FRAPPACINO!
(http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/orange-mocha-frappaccino.jpg)

And does anyone else think ASkars should be THOR in the movie, would that not be perfect. Oh well, I guess I will give the Chris Hemsworth guy a chance. Not like I have a choice ~_O

I only know F. Rodriguez from Planet Terror, Harsh Times, Lady in the Water, and Scrubs(which was a small role). I never watched Six Feet Under. But I picked him based solely off Planet Terror because I thought El Wray was a great character and so similar to the character Ramirez. Have you seen Planet Terror? His characters quote is "I never miss" and at the end.....ah man....what a great movie. I love Robert Rodriguez movies. Funny how they advertise the new Predators movie as a Robert Rodriguez film even though he is producing it and not directing it. I hate when they do that. I remember when Tarantino "presented" Hero, and Cloverfield was a "J.J. Abrams project", and Guillermo Del Toro's The Oprhange, etc. They always try to fool me by tacking some big name on there even though they only produced it or something, which IMO has very little to do with Directing it.

Bill Nighy, I chose him because of Underworld as Viktor (one of at least my top ten movies). I thought his role in that is soo much like the Nic character. Even his role in Pirates was kind of that "join me forever as one of my cursed crewman" which is sort of like the Denarians.

You don't like Megan Fox? she did kind of seem like a......well she didn't seem very nice at the movie awards when Andy Sanbreg hosted. And she got fired from the next Transformers for getting into with the director i think. But damn is she smokin'. Yeah I also saw a lot of references to her as the poor man's A. Jolie. Maybe they should do Mother/Daughter roles like Mab and Maeve, although the Queen of Winter and Lady of Winter don't technically have to be blood relatives....if Faeries even have blood. Then I can just swap A. Jolie and M. Belucci in my fake cast. ~_O

Lord Raith. Yeah I like Cassal, but I wasn't really feelin' that either. I am kind of picturing Lucius Malfoy/Jason Isaacs for this. Funny how some of the Harry Potter cast fits for this. i.e. Gary Oldman, Jason Isaacs, etc. okay maybe not that many.

Simon Pegg as Butters, that's okay, but what about Steve Buscemi or Paul Reubens.
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_aoxXydvUqL4/TBD7heHb4HI/AAAAAAAAAVA/3Vs0kUeDu6A/s800/15deli600.jpg)(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_aoxXydvUqL4/TBD8czZLV_I/AAAAAAAAAVI/gQOMHKMbIFc/s800/paul-reubens_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 10, 2010, 04:28:03 PM
That's not bad, but Amanda Seyfried is 25 years old, and Dakota Fanning is 16/17 which is about the same age as Molly is in the current storyline. Dakota could age with the movies, Seyfried might be a little to old to do that.


Uh. At the time of Changes, Molly is in her early 20s.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 10, 2010, 05:22:51 PM
Uh. At the time of Changes, Molly is in her early 20s.

Thats right, I am thinking about around the time she becomes his apprentice, but regardless that's the 12th book. She is 14 when she is first introduced in the series.
So if they started making the movies right now, by the time they got to the movie for Changes, Seyfried would be like at least 37. She wouldn't look like she was in her early 20s.

In 12 years Dakota will be like 28, that would be perfect for changes.

*Theoretically if they did 1 movie per book/per year starting right now
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 10, 2010, 05:29:28 PM
and when interduced, two books later that produces many ewwws
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 10, 2010, 06:16:02 PM
Kincaid - I think ASkars trumps Jason Statham any day! Besides, isn't Kincaid supposed to have long blond hair that he wears in a ponytail sometimes? Would be problematic for Jason Statham unless they put him in a hairpiece.

As for hair, Statham can grow hair, it just doesn't look good on him.
(http://media.sbs.com.au/films/upload_media/site_28_rand_326935994_revolver_pub_627.jpg)

because instead of a forehead he has like and eighthead.

But again, does Kincaid really have long blond hair? I don't remember that. Does anyone have the exerpt where the describe Kincaid's physical description?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 11, 2010, 12:02:43 AM
I think Ray Wise would be a very good John Marcone. Take a look:

(http://www.screencap-paradise.com/caps/albums/Series/Bones/season2/bones001/bones201_620.jpg)

He's kinda got that grandfatherly-soccer-coach-possible-mob-boss look to him. This picture of him is actually taken from a screen cap in the Season 2 episode of Bones, The Titan on The Track. He played a crooked PI that killed a senator or something.

There's a bit of a striking resemblance between him and the graphic novel drawing of Marcone in the comic version of Storm Front. And there's the fact that he was born in Akron, Ohio.

Not that it really means anything to anyone other than me :) (Ohio born and bred here -- I get excited when I find actors and actresses that are from my home state.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 11, 2010, 12:12:25 AM
But again, does Kincaid really have long blond hair? I don't remember that. Does anyone have the exerpt where the describe Kincaid's physical description?

Page 107 of the Paperback edition of Death Masks:


      A man stood on my doorstep. He was nearly as tall as me but looked a lot more solid, with shoulders wide enough to make the loose black jacket he wore fit tightly on his upper arms. He wore a navy blue shirt and stood so that I could see the wrinkles caused by the straps of a shoulder rig. A black ball cap reined in dark golden hair that might have fallen to his shoulders. He hadn't shaved in a few days, and had a short, white scar below his mouth that highlighted the cleft in his chin. His eyes were grey-blue and empty of any expression in a way I had seldom seen.


For some reason, I am now picturing Josh Holloway, who played Sawyer on Lost.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_plko_xPF_nk/S6M9E1PEogI/AAAAAAAABEU/f6_eKM4woWk/s320/Sawyer+Lost.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Treacle Tart on June 11, 2010, 12:24:49 AM
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I personally think it's more important that they have the attitude of the character (OF COURSE, what they look like is seriously important too), but am just saying. xD

I don't disagree, but for me, the look is more important. I don't care if an Oscar-winning actor gets cast as a Dresden character and has the attitude - if they look nothing like the physical description of that character, that would be a fail for me.

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does Kincaid really have long blond hair? I don't remember that. Does anyone have the exerpt where the describe Kincaid's physical description?

from Death Masks:
He was nearly as tall as me but looked a lot more solid....A black ball cap reined in dark golden hair that might have fallen to his shoulders.

Kincaid walked in, in the same outfit I'd seen that morning, but without the baseball cap. His dark blond hair was instead pulled back into an unruly tail.


from Blood Rites:
He was a big guy, almost my own height, with dark golden hair just long enough to look a little exotic.

The lean mercenary was dressed in greys and dull blues, very nondescript, and had his hair pulled into a ponytail under a black baseball cap.


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As far as ASkars trumping Statham...AGREED! Eric Northman character is probably my favorite True Blood character, I can't wait til that comes back on. But I picked Statham because I picture Kincaid more rugged, and ASkars is too pretty for the Kincaid in my head, he did play a Meekus (green shirt) in Zoolander after all.

But ASkars also played Iceman in Generation Kill:
(http://i46.tinypic.com/ivwvwm.jpg)

And actually, Rudy Reyes from Generation Kill would make a pretty good Ramirez!
(http://i50.tinypic.com/hrhbht.jpg)

Steve Buscemi or Paul Reubens as Butters - how old is Butters supposed to be anyway? Because those suggestions seem too old to me.

As far as how old Molly is when she becomes a major character, I am pretty sure that Molly is supposed to look older than her actual age. So to me, casting someone who looks really young like Dakota Fanning, does not work for me. Not to mention, I have a big problem with her skinny built for Molly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 11, 2010, 07:34:09 AM
decently old, because he feels wrong about having a thing for molly in wn
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 02:29:55 PM
Wow! I am ashamed that I blanked out during the description of Kincaid in the books. I remember the ponytail part now that I saw it again, but I guess I got so caught up in his actions that I just automatically chose someone I could picture as cold, methodic, and capable.

Now that I think about it the Eric Northman character is all of those, so I must concede, yes ASkars would make a good Kincaid.

I am sure you all know how it is when you get someone stuck in your head for a character, now I just have to get Statham out of my head for the Hellhound. But I still think Statham would have been great in some action scenes.

Josh Holloway guy also has the right look to (now that I have been reminded of the correct description of Kincaid). Though I don't watch Lost. I know that's probably some kind of sin since it was like the number one show.

Butters... Well I am not really sure how old he is, but being a medical examiner I just imagined he would be at least late 30's if not 40's. I guess they are a little older for the part, Buscemi is 52, Reubens is 57. But I think the fit the character perfectly with the polka playing and the qwerkiness and geekiness.
I definitely cannot see Simon Pegg for this part......Waldo Butters with a British accent.....not feeling that.


Molly... so she looks older than her age, I don't think that means when she is 14 she looks like she is 25, I think it means when she is 14 she looks like she is 17.
 (http://tonicgossip.com/wp-content/dakota-fanning-push-1.jpg)
Dakota is a little skinny, but she has played similar roles, Push and Twilight Saga, so I think that qualifies her more than anyone else suggested thus far. Plus yeah she looks young right now because she is 16, she might even fill out some to.

I admit even though Seyfried is 24 she could pass for like 17. But this picture with these eyes really screams to me...
Leanansidhe!!!!!
(http://www.freshnews.in/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Amanda-Seyfried.jpg)

Then again, this picture also makes her look like she should be in the Summer Court.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 02:40:03 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 11, 2010, 02:46:34 PM
Wow! I am ashamed that I blanked out during the description of Kincaid in the books. I remember the ponytail part now that I saw it again, but I guess I got so caught up in his actions that I just automatically chose someone I could picture as cold, methodic, and capable.

Don't be ashamed. The point of the matter is that Kincaid IS all those things. He just happens to be rather good-looking, too. Explains why Murph fell for him, even though she didn't seem to want to.

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Josh Holloway guy also has the right look to (now that I have been reminded of the correct description of Kincaid). Though I don't watch Lost. I know that's probably some kind of sin since it was like the number one show.

Well, then I'm going to hell, since I've never seen the show, and I refused to watch it. I just know Josh Holloway because of his eyes. I had to actually look up his name, because I could only think of him by his character's name on the show.

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I admit even though Seyfried is 24 she could pass for like 17. But this picture with these eyes really screams to me...
Leanansidhe!!!!!
(http://www.freshnews.in/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Amanda-Seyfried.jpg)

Then again, this picture also makes her look like she should be in the Summer Court.

I skipped your other two observations, because I don't currently have any new observations on who would play a good Butters (I still think the dude that played Faramir in LoTR would make a good Butters... but his hair is blonde, and Butters' hair is black) or Molly (I keep seeing Dakota as that tiny little girl from, uh... whatsit called, Charlotte's Web. What about Annasophia Robb?)

Anyway, about Amanda -- it's the eyes. It's always the eyes :) Are they green? I can't tell. If they're green, even in the slightest form, she could play Winter Sidhe or Summer. If she played Lea, though, she'd have to be willing to dye her hair crimson.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 03:51:23 PM
The guy that played Faramir is David Wenham.
(http://www.ageofthering.com/atthemovies/cast/davidwenham.jpg)

I still see someone qwerkier and geekier for Butters.

If everyone agrees that Buscemi and Reubens are too old. What about Justin Long? I think he does geeky and cowardly pretty well (see Live Free Die Hard). And Long is 32 years old.
(http://www.b105.com/blog/media/justin-long1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 04:16:53 PM
I just had a thought....Simon Pegg could have a part.... Binder. Binder is Scottish right? I think Pegg can do that accent. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 04:25:36 PM
Other thought. If we make ASkars Kincaid, then I bump Statham to Warden Morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on June 11, 2010, 04:30:19 PM
Other thought. If we make ASkars Kincaid, then I bump Statham to Warden Morgan.

Statham as Morgan, I could get behind that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 11, 2010, 04:50:17 PM
for me it's Stephan Lang as morgan
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: rose29206 on June 11, 2010, 05:37:56 PM
I've been googling to see who fits my mental images somewhat. Here's what I've found:

Kincaid : Karl Urban.
Thomas : Justin Hartley, even though he's blond.
Michael : Viggo Mortensen (not perfect, but something like that)

I can't quite decide, but Harry is somewhat like Eduardo Verastegui in certain pics.

Murphy : Meg Ryan is the closest I can come to my image ... I have a really hard time picturing Murphy as a blond, though. She always seemed brunette to me.

Charity: Meryl Streep
Molly : Picture something like a punk Kate Bosworth.

Susan: Catherine Zeta Jones


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 05:39:32 PM
Stephen Lang was who I had first, but if I had choose, to keep Statham in, I would replace Lang with Statham.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 05:57:51 PM
I've been googling to see who fits my mental images somewhat. Here's what I've found:

Kincaid : Karl Urban.
Thomas : Justin Hartley, even though he's blond.
Michael : Viggo Mortensen (not perfect, but something like that)

I can't quite decide, but Harry is somewhat like Eduardo Verastegui in certain pics.

Murphy : Meg Ryan is the closest I can come to my image ... I have a really hard time picturing Murphy as a blond, though. She always seemed brunette to me.

Charity: Meryl Streep
Molly : Picture something like a punk Kate Bosworth.

Susan: Catherine Zeta Jones





Sorry rose but have to disagree with most of these for a movie (but I can't disagree with how you see them in your head ~_~)

I'll explain.

Karl Urban as Kincaid- no explanation here, I just don't see him as Kincaid.
Justin Hartley as Thomas- I don't know who he is.
Viggo as Michael - Good choice, Sean Bean would be another
Meg Ryan (48) as Murphy -  I loved Meg Ryan when I was growing up. Michelle Pfeiffer, Kathy Ireland, etc. These were my generation of celebrity females. But Meg is little old now to be Murphy. And Meg didn't age well either.
Meryl Streep (60) as Charity - too old, and can you picture Meryl as the wife of Viggo.....uhhhh no.
Kate Bosworth as Molly - Kate is pretty, I am not too sure about her as Molly though.
Catherine Zeta Jones (40) as Susan - a little older than I would picture Susan, Jones would make a good Arianna Ortega


Keep in mind is easier to make someone look older than it is to make someone look younger.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 07:02:27 PM
One of the caveats with casting some of these characters is that some of them are immortals.

The Vampires, The Denarians, The Fey, etc.

So casting them by how old the are suppose to look versus who could act most like that character seems to be a challenge.

Most of the suggestions are either to young or too old in someones opinion so I think there should be some liberties taken with both looks and ages if a film series were ever made.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: svb1972 on June 11, 2010, 07:04:40 PM
I thoguht Arianna Ortega looked 16?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 07:06:51 PM
Isn't Arianna Ortega the wife of Duke Ortega, and didn't Duke Ortega look older. I assumed Arianna looked older too.

But your probably right, they are vampires after all, they could look 15 and be 1500.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 11, 2010, 07:19:30 PM
David webnam is a great actor, and he really gets into his roles, so he would dye his hair black, i mean viggo is blond and he was aragorn, they just died it, and as butters it would be awesome! he has already done nerdy guy, he was the friar in van hellsing, he also does bad guy well. i can see him as Kincaid too
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 07:29:00 PM
David webnam is a great actor, and he really gets into his roles, so he would dye his hair black, i mean viggo is blond and he was aragorn, they just died it, and as butters it would be awesome! he has already done nerdy guy, he was the friar in van hellsing, he also does bad guy well. i can see him as Kincaid too

Your right about his part in Van Helsing being pretty cowardly and qwerky, but I am trying to picture him doing a one man polka band and I can't see it, he just doesn't look goofy enough to me.

I think he would be better as like one of the Denarians, or maybe Peabody, or the British guy who gaurds the way at Eddenburrough, or Binder, or the Loup-garou.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 11, 2010, 07:33:34 PM
awesome loup garu, would be a cool nico, maybe the brit, i can see him as binder,
as for goofy, not a lot of actors out there that are goofy, other then like will Ferrel, and just...no. i can see the kid from live free or die hard or that guy from zombie land,
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 07:41:51 PM
For those who never saw my cast here is the male cast (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ4MzU1YmUtOTQ2Mi00OTY1LTk0NjAtMzA1MGZiODhiYjk3&hl=en) and the female cast (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8NfYpeXR_TANzdkMzVmYzQtNmU1OS00YmNlLWJjZDItMDYyMzg3NTlhMWQ2&hl=en)

except move A. Skarsgard to Kincaid, Statham to Warden Morgan (or keep Lang, I am torn), add Bruce Willis as Mac, replace Buscemi with Justin Long, add Simon Pegg as Binder, and David Wenham as Peabody or Loup Garou.

There, I think we almost have it.

*the reason I didn't update the pdf is because the word doc I use to create it has now gotten so large that it takes forever to work with.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 07:45:19 PM
would be a cool nico

I was thinking also he could be a pretty good Nic, but only if Gary Oldman and Bill Nighy weren't available.

And yes I know Nighy is older than Nicodemus is suppose to look, but come on, in Underworld as Viktor, and the "join my cursed crew" in Pirates of the Caribbean, it's soo Nicodemus.

And Oldman as Sirius Black....I think that's pretty close too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 11, 2010, 07:55:45 PM
The ultimate toughest casting, who should play Mouse and Mister?

Mouse (he is a chinese fu dog)
(http://www.nndb.com/people/759/000022693/jackie-chan.jpg) in this costume(http://www.weirdthings.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/funnydogcostumes.jpg)

Mister
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Mickey_Rourke_6.jpg)this costume(http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/34203.jpg)

I know what your thinking............and I agree.................AWESOME!!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Treacle Tart on June 11, 2010, 10:51:05 PM
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Butters... Well I am not really sure how old he is, but being a medical examiner I just imagined he would be at least late 30's if not 40's. I guess they are a little older for the part, Buscemi is 52, Reubens is 57. But I think the fit the character perfectly with the polka playing and the qwerkiness and geekiness.
I definitely cannot see Simon Pegg for this part......Waldo Butters with a British accent.....not feeling that.

Simon Pegg is an actor, and actors often act in different accents. The fact that he is British isn't a disqualifier.

Here's how Butters is described:

from Dead Beat:
Butters was a little guy, maybe five-foot-three in his shoes, maybe 120 pounds soaking wet....He had a shock of wiry black hair that gave him a perpetual look of surprise that stopped just short of being a perpetual look of electrocution.

"Screw up my life?" He stared a me for a second and then said, deadpan, "I'm a five-foot-three, thirty-seven-year-old, single, Jewish medical examiner who needs to pick up his lederhosen from the dry cleaners so that he can play in a one-man polka band at Oktoberfest tomorrow." He pushed up his glasses with his forefinger, folded his arms, and said, "Do your worst."


from White Night:
Butters was an odd little duck. He wasn’t much taller than Murphy, and she probably had more muscle than he did. His shock of black hair resembled nothing so much as an explosion in a steel wool factory. He was all knees and elbows, especially in the surgical greens he was wearing, his face was lean and angular, his nose beaky, and his eyes were bright behind the prescription glasses.

Sorry but 5'10" (approx.) and not-odd-looking-at-all David Wenham would be totally wrong for Butters imo.

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Molly... so she looks older than her age, I don't think that means when she is 14 she looks like she is 25, I think it means when she is 14 she looks like she is 17.

But she is around 17-18 in Proven Guilty, when she actually becomes one of the main characters, not 14.

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Dakota is a little skinny, but she has played similar roles, Push and Twilight Saga, so I think that qualifies her more than anyone else suggested thus far. Plus yeah she looks young right now because she is 16, she might even fill out some to.

Maybe she could bulk up but can she grow taller than 5'3"?

Description of Molly from Proven Guilty:

She strongly favored her mother, Charity. Both of them were tall for women, only an inch or two under six feet, both of them blond, fair, blue- eyed, and both of them built like the proverbial brick house, somehow managing to combine strength, grace and beauty that showed as much in their bearing, expression, and movement as it did in their appearance.

I just cannot see Dakota Fanning as Molly at all.

But I could definitely get behind Stephen Lang as Morgan though, much more than Jason Statham, who imo, has rather limited acting abilities.

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Sorry rose but have to disagree with most of these for a movie .....Meg Ryan (48) as Murphy -  I loved Meg Ryan when I was growing up. Michelle Pfeiffer, Kathy Ireland, etc. These were my generation of celebrity females. But Meg is little old now to be Murphy. And Meg didn't age well either.

I have to disagree with that list too, and you're so right that Meg didn't age well. Not to mention, the bad plastic surgery that turned her into the Joker with fish lips.

Murphy is a hard one to cast, because I have a very specific image of what she should look like from the books:

from Storm Front:
Karrin and I are a study in contrasts. Where I am tall and lean, she's short and stocky. Where I have dark hair and dark eyes, she's got Shirley Temple blond locks and baby blues. Where my features are all lean and angular, with a hawkish nose and a sharp chin, hers are round and smooth, with the kind of cute nose you'd expect on a cheerleader.

from Blood Rites:
Lt. Karrin Murphy, the woman in charge of the Special Investigations division of Chicago PD, stood an even five feet...She was attractive in a pleasantly wholesome kind of way-crystal blue eyes, clear skin, an upturned nose.

Murphy wasn't going to qualify under anyone's definition of willowy or svelte , but she had the build of a gymnast-tough, flexible, and strong.


I can't think of any actress for the role myself, although I can certainly think "no!" to suggestions. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on June 12, 2010, 03:59:31 AM
Reese Witherspoon...


The question is... can she do action???

And for all of you out there thinking Kirsten Dunst, a pox upon you!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 12, 2010, 04:16:07 AM
And for all of you out there thinking Kirsten Dunst, a pox upon you!

gosh no. I don't like her, honestly.

I vote Diane Kruger, but she's too tall.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 12, 2010, 06:37:55 AM
I'm wondering (although she's 5'6") if this girl could pull of Murphy
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm399217152/nm0695560

Her name is Victoria Pratt. I had forgotten about her and hadn't seen anyone mention her name. She was in Mutant X the series and I think some other show I can't recall. She can kick butt, she's blond and she has the Murphy vibe.

Anyhow... just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 12, 2010, 07:02:59 AM
I'm wondering (although she's 5'6") if this girl could pull of Murphy
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm399217152/nm0695560

Her name is Victoria Pratt. I had forgotten about her and hadn't seen anyone mention her name. She was in Mutant X the series and I think some other show I can't recall. She can kick butt, she's blond and she has the Murphy vibe.

Anyhow... just my 2 cents.

oh yeah! I know her! I remember her! I think she can do Murphy. She's got the vibe, yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on June 13, 2010, 05:06:29 PM
I'm wondering (although she's 5'6") if this girl could pull of Murphy
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm399217152/nm0695560

Her name is Victoria Pratt.

I'll see your two cents and raise you a dollar. Definitely VERY Murphy!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 14, 2010, 04:59:09 AM
My vote for Thomas is THIS guy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRF9of0h0B8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRF9of0h0B8)

I think he's got the right mix of angst/intensity.  He does look like a cuter version of how I imagine Harry,
and this video just SCREAMS Thomas and Justine.  

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on June 14, 2010, 05:53:59 AM
I agree with the Murphy nomination - rereading the series now, and casting as I go :) she fits perfectly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 14, 2010, 02:05:47 PM
Who should play Murphy?

Kirsten Dunst - No, too young, I like her alright, but not as Murphy

Kristen Bell - No, too young and maybe not built enough, but close to how I picture Murphy

Hayden Panettiere - too young, but has the right attitude and build IMO

Michelle Pfieffer - too old now

Nicole Kidman - also too old now

Naomi Watts - I put her on my fake cast, but just as a place holder til i thought of a better Murphy.

Victoria Pratt - she has the build, I am not familiar with her acting though. So maybe.

Reese Witherspoon - I can't see her as Murphy.

Diane Lane - probably a little too old.

Uma Thurman - she doesn't at all fit the description, but Kill Bill was awesome
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 14, 2010, 02:51:09 PM
Butters. The more I think about it the more I like the idea of Justin Long as Butters. Especially since Butters is suppose to be Jewish, I think Justin Long passes for Jewish much more than Simon Pegg or David Wenham.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YdpghmDGGEA/S0bgIZuHD2I/AAAAAAAAA0Y/U-kYkcfWccI/s400/WPWLLM+-+Justin+Long.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 14, 2010, 03:00:11 PM
Molly. Ok ok, I give up advocating D. Fanning as Molly.

I still think her recent roles suit her for the part and I think she is dead on for the age if the filming were to start now and since she is 16 she very well may get taller.

My second choice, which was suggested by someone else earlier on this thread, would be Deborah Ann Woll because she plays a 17 year old vampire on True Blood, and she is a "fledgling" or whatever you call a vampire in training, which kind of makes her like an apprentice.
(http://theaterofmine.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/deborah-ann-woll.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 14, 2010, 03:39:19 PM
Butters. The more I think about it the more I like the idea of Justin Long as Butters. Especially since Butters is suppose to be Jewish, I think Justin Long passes for Jewish much more than Simon Pegg or David Wenham.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YdpghmDGGEA/S0bgIZuHD2I/AAAAAAAAA0Y/U-kYkcfWccI/s400/WPWLLM+-+Justin+Long.jpg)

He's freaking adorable.

Okay, I swing my vote for Justin Long as Butters. For now. Unless another guy who can play a crazy good Butters comes along :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 14, 2010, 06:25:29 PM
Not only is he adorable, but he can play goofy, geeky and qwerky, and he is 32 which is old enough to feel guilty about having a thing for Molly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 14, 2010, 06:54:06 PM
How do you insert an image?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Coalprin on June 14, 2010, 06:56:41 PM
(http://www.givememyremote.com/remote/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/johnny-galecki.jpg)

My pick for Butters. Johnny Galecki.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 14, 2010, 07:45:32 PM
How do you insert an image?


in your reply click the insert image button, the button right below the B (bold) button, then, insert the link to the image between

[*img]{url}[/img]

no asterik

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to see image above larger click here (http://doc-0c-18-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/eifuqqdpcro0asfea0bc9prgfsvblvop/1276538400000/05835411182615825942/*/0B8NfYpeXR_TAMzdhZTY4MzctMDM5Ny00ZTI4LWEwM2UtZGM4ZDFjYzFmZWU0)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 14, 2010, 08:09:50 PM
My pick for Butters. Johnny Galecki.

I like that choice too.

He does "awkward" well, and could probably do cowardly, and probably geeky, but I don't know about goofy and sarcastic. Not that Butters is that goofy or sarcastic but he is a little. I am sure this actor could pull it off.

He is one of the better suggestions so far, I could see him as Butters.

I see him as runner-up to J. Long, but I am probably just saying that because I thought of J. Long first.

And I actually remember Galecki from Roseanne.

I think the difference to me is that Galecki can play serious roles, and I would never be able to see Justin Long doing anything really serious, if he did I probably wouldn't take him seriously.

(http://www.intelligentrecords.com/Comments/WhySoSerious.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on June 14, 2010, 08:11:25 PM
in your reply click the insert image button, the button right below the B (bold) button, then, insert the link to the image between

[*img] link here [/img].

minus the asterik, put there to show what the code would look like.

(http://doc-0c-18-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/eifuqqdpcro0asfea0bc9prgfsvblvop/1276538400000/05835411182615825942/*/0B8NfYpeXR_TAMzdhZTY4MzctMDM5Ny00ZTI4LWEwM2UtZGM4ZDFjYzFmZWU0)

to see image above larger click here (http://doc-0c-18-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/eifuqqdpcro0asfea0bc9prgfsvblvop/1276538400000/05835411182615825942/*/0B8NfYpeXR_TAMzdhZTY4MzctMDM5Ny00ZTI4LWEwM2UtZGM4ZDFjYzFmZWU0)

Your screencap skills are superb. :) Seriously. One good picture takes the place of a lot of misunderstandable words.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 15, 2010, 02:56:16 AM
I haven't worked out perfect casting for all parts, but I've thought of Jordana Spiro as Murphy ever since I started reading The Dresden Files.

Similarly, I've thought for a while that Alana de la Garza would make a great Susan.


Is it a cliché to say that the descriptions of Thomas made me think of this guy?

Edited to remove the hotlinking mess I made. Thanks, MoSeS_!

Backing away from the computer now.  
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 15, 2010, 07:16:10 AM
Thanks for the help, lets see if this works.  I hope the image isn't to big.  Is there anyway to shrink the size with the image tags?  I also wouldn't want to take up too much space on this website.


My pick for Thomas.  He's 28, and he already has the grey eyes.

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad248/Scop_1/Tommy/LookingUp.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cass on June 15, 2010, 01:16:58 PM
...But who is he?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 15, 2010, 01:45:02 PM
I haven't worked out perfect casting for all parts, but I've thought of Jordana Spiro as Murphy ever since I started reading The Dresden Files.
 Jordana Spiro (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2744622336/nm0819079)
Similarly, I've thought for a while that Alana de la Garza would make a great Susan.
Alana de la Garza (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3146289152/nm1004211)
Is it a cliché to say that the descriptions of Thomas made me think of this guy?
Tom Welling (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2192547072/nm0919991)
Hmm. Dunno what I'm still doing wrong with the links.

First thing is your linking to a whole web page, not a link to an image. You can insert the link but not as images.

Second I don't think you can link to an image on imdb, they probably don't want hotlinking to increase their traffic.

Use google and search images. Then use those to insert image.

(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/07/03/cfb.mailbag/t1_spirotbs.jpg)(http://access.nscpcdn.com/gallery/i/g/garza/94564_D0270.jpg)(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/tom-welling.jpg)

Here are 3 images of the above mentioned actors.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 15, 2010, 02:03:34 PM
Thanks for the help, lets see if this works.  I hope the image isn't to big.  Is there anyway to shrink the size with the image tags?  I also wouldn't want to take up too much space on this website.
My pick for Thomas.  He's 28, and he already has the grey eyes.
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad248/Scop_1/Tommy/LookingUp.jpg)

yes you can resize it. just choose your width and height like this.

[img width=60 height=40]{url}[/url]

I think it will always size it down to width of 600 or height of 400 if it's larger, and it will size it proportionally.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 15, 2010, 04:39:34 PM
yes you can resize it. just choose your width and height like this.

I think it will always size it down to width of 600 or height of 400 if it's larger, and it will size it proportionally.

Thanks,
Please be patient with my while I try this out...
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad248/Scop_1/Tommy/03021122510_lee_mead_01_400.jpg)


Okay, a couple of trys and its working now.  YEA to the "Modify" function!!!
It didn't work when I left the image tag snipet in the Quote line, though.  Odd that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 15, 2010, 07:03:44 PM
...But who is he?

Oh, sorry, guess that would help.
He's Lee Mead.  He's a British Actor and Singer.

Here he is being all angsty in white.  It's from a Dutch TV show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XndxDf96jYo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XndxDf96jYo)

The song is Close Every Door from the musical Joseph, but if you ignore that
and a couple of the lyrics, it sort of fits.  Plus the weird set looks like some sort of magical prison
set up in the Never Never. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 15, 2010, 07:11:32 PM
Lee Mead, has a good look, but I am not familiar with his acting. But everyone has to start somewhere I guess.

He kind of reminds of the guy from Entourage though, Adrian Grenier, it's the hair I think.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Adrian_Grenier_by_David_Shankbone_cropped.jpg)
And before you think it, no I don't think Adrian Grenier could pull off the right Thomas attitude.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 15, 2010, 07:30:40 PM
It's always about the hair ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 15, 2010, 07:40:22 PM
@ Atanvarno

Tom Welling as Thomas, I'd back that. He has the strong silent type thing going on.

I have only seen a few episodes of Smallville, but I always wanted to watch the whole thing, I just never had the time to catch up on it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 15, 2010, 08:49:53 PM
I don't suppose you've missed much by not catching all of Smallville; I watched the first season, and the writing varied from uninspired to unfortunate. It's hard to tell if Welling's up to much as an actor, since the Clark Kent character is such a dip. I want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but...

But he certainly is, er, Bowflex-y. And gray-eyed. So there's that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 15, 2010, 08:56:33 PM
Tom Welling's not a bad choice, but he's not exactly waife thin these days with that Superman inverted A frame going on.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 15, 2010, 09:53:16 PM
For some reason though when they first introduced Thomas I had this image in my head.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/lovuian/ian1.jpg)
It's a character from the Witchblade comics.

And I have never read or seen any of the Dresden Files graphic novels so I don't know what any of the characters in that look like.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 15, 2010, 10:30:05 PM
I can defiately groc with the long flowing hair :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on June 15, 2010, 11:06:13 PM

Sorry rose but have to disagree with most of these for a movie (but I can't disagree with how you see them in your head ~_~)

I'll explain.

Karl Urban as Kincaid- no explanation here, I just don't see him as Kincaid.
Justin Hartley as Thomas- I don't know who he is.
Viggo as Michael - Good choice, Sean Bean would be another
Meg Ryan (48) as Murphy -  I loved Meg Ryan when I was growing up. Michelle Pfeiffer, Kathy Ireland, etc. These were my generation of celebrity females. But Meg is little old now to be Murphy. And Meg didn't age well either.
Meryl Streep (60) as Charity - too old, and can you picture Meryl as the wife of Viggo.....uhhhh no.
Kate Bosworth as Molly - Kate is pretty, I am not too sure about her as Molly though.
Catherine Zeta Jones (40) as Susan - a little older than I would picture Susan, Jones would make a good Arianna Ortega


Keep in mind is easier to make someone look older than it is to make someone look younger.

"Karl Urban as Kincaid- no explanation here, I just don't see him as Kincaid."

OK...before Urban got the role of Dr. McCoy, he had another thing in common with the late DeForest Kelley; both were routinely typecast as bad guys.

Urban as Kincaid, maybe...Warden Morgan, definitely
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 01:06:18 AM
"Karl Urban as Kincaid- no explanation here, I just don't see him as Kincaid."

OK...before Urban got the role of Dr. McCoy, he had another thing in common with the late DeForest Kelley; both were routinely typecast as bad guys.

Urban as Kincaid, maybe...Warden Morgan, definitely

All I can think of is Pathfinder and Chronicles of Riddick. And unfortunately both of those were not great movies. I am not saying it's Urban's fault, just unfortunate that he was in both of those.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 16, 2010, 01:20:51 AM
I still say:

Thomas Raith: Matt Bomer :P
http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

Karrin Murphy: Victoria Pratt (I think she fits)
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm399217152/nm0695560

And maybe for Butters this guy:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2959381504/nm0862328

He's on the show Bones. Plays a good nerdy type forensics guy.
He fits the profile I think for Butters.

Just another of my two cents.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 16, 2010, 03:43:49 AM
No argument on Bomer - the silvery colour scheme makes that picture seem highly relevant ;)

I don't think Pratt's the strongest actress, and she's too much the straight-up Amazon, it seems to me, for Murphy.

TJ Thyne is probably fine (ooch, sorry; that rhyme was unfortunate), but for some reason, I see Kevin Smith in my head when I read Butters' lines.

I also think of Will as being played by Seth Green, but that's no doubt the influence of Buffy.

I could buy Urban (or, oddly, David Wenham, don't ask me why) as Kincaid. I tend to think of Morgan as older. I found the TV choice for Morgan too dull. Morgan is not boring! In my head, Morgan looks like a combination of David Bradley (Argus Filch from the Harry Potter movies) and Brian Cox. I think Urban is quite underrated as an actor; he was very effective (and very different) in The Lord of the Rings and The Bourne Supremacy.

I didn't like any of the casting choices made for the TV series, except for Paul Blackthorne as Harry and Terrence Mann as Bob - though a very different version of Bob. Everybody else was a resounding meh or worse. (Valerie Cruz as Murphy?! Ack.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 01:43:22 PM
Matt Bomer, I checked out his IMDB and have to say WOW, I have never seen any of the stuff he has been in. That being the case I am unsure of his talent, therefore I would have to vote no.

Victoria Pratt, I completely agree with Atanvarno, I was thinking the same exact thing, too Amazon.

TJ Thyne, again, not familiar with his work, and when I saw the pic I did not see Butters at all.

Seth Green as Will Borden. I see the Buffy logic there, but Sethy is 36 now.

My pick for Will Borden is Emile Hirsch, he is 25, and I think he is a decent actor. I have not seen Speed Racer, but I liked him in The Girl Next Door.
(http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Emile-in-a-magazine-emile-hirsch-683937_766_1135.jpg)

Urban or Wenham as Kincaid. Neither. I can see Urban as like maybe a Denarian like Cassius and Wenham as Peabody, but neither of these would make a better Kincaid then Alexander Skarsgard. Though he was not my original choice.
(http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/alexander-skarsgard-as-eric.jpg)

For Morgan I think almost everyone agreed with my choice of Stephen Lang.
(http://www.silverfeast.com/wp-content/uploads/stephen_lang.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 16, 2010, 04:40:18 PM
I still say:

Thomas Raith: Matt Bomer :P
http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11736&fullsize=1

Karrin Murphy: Victoria Pratt (I think she fits)
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm399217152/nm0695560

And maybe for Butters this guy:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2959381504/nm0862328

He's on the show Bones. Plays a good nerdy type forensics guy.
He fits the profile I think for Butters.

Just another of my two cents.

always been a fan of your cast list, j3nee. xD I love it. a lot. TJ Thyne ftw!

...do you have anyone in mind for harry? and... for the others?

I like the idea of viggo for michael, btw
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 04:42:40 PM
I had this same poll up before in McAnally's (The Community Pub) here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18318.0.html) and it was up to 23 votes, but due to the renovation of the forums it has been locked and that poll is gone.

The poll included Ryan Reynolds, Clive Owen, Adrian Brody, Paul Bettany, Hugh Laurie, Gerard Butler, Joe Flanigan, Neil Flynn, and Jared Paladecki, but due to the fact that each of those had about 1 vote each I decided to trim the list down.

I haven't figured out yet how long to run the poll or up to how many votes. In your opinion what would be a fair amount to decide. The first actor to reach 25 votes?

Later I would like to poll for additional characters, but naturally we should cast the star first.



POLL RESULTS AT CLOSE:

Lee Pace     - 1 (16.7%)
Zachary Quinto    - 0 (0%)
Hugh Jackman    - 0 (0%)
Timothy Olyphant    - 1 (16.7%)
Nathan Fillion    - 4 (66.7%)
Chris Evans    - 0 (0%)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 04:56:44 PM
always been a fan of your cast list, j3nee. xD I love it. a lot. TJ Thyne ftw!
...do you have anyone in mind for harry? and... for the others?
I like the idea of viggo for michael, btw

Hey, Viggo for Michael, that sounds like my cast list.  :P

Anywho I started a new poll here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18955.0.html) for who should play Harry Dresden.

Other polls to come later.





Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: stitchy1503 on June 16, 2010, 05:02:02 PM
Nathan Fillion...because that man is awesome, also i can see him being all detectivy and serious along with being snarky (watch castle for a good idea as to why i chose him)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 16, 2010, 05:02:14 PM
Love the Vig - he's the King of Men, after all. But I think he's too old to play Michael (for me). Morgan, on the other hand, hmm.

I noticed Jared Padalecki's name in the poll referred to above, and I meant to say I think he'd make a pretty good Thomas, if Matt Bomer or Tom Welling, you know, turned us down. But I think of him as looking too young to play Harry, in spite of the fact that I am absolutely convinced that he was an inspiration, if not the model, for Christian McGrath's cover art. I'd have no problem with him as Thomas, since Thomas is older than Harry, but doesn't look it. I want to say that there's a reference (before White Night?) to Thomas's looking younger than Harry, but I won't swear to it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on June 16, 2010, 05:45:53 PM
Sorry, but I really don't see Viggo Mortenson as Michael.  He does grungy, emotional roles (The Road, Appaloosa) far too well to be relegated to a paladin.  Even if he is Aragorn (minor squee!).

I'd much prefer him to be an antagonist, or someone hindering Harry rather than helping him - such as Morgan, or Lloyd Slate.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on June 16, 2010, 06:52:09 PM
i liked him in history of violence, if he looked like that,he would be like a perfect Michael,and val kilmer is my choice for kincaid, well, when he was younger
(http://thm-a03.yimg.com/nimage/0adf1110a4eaa95a)
(http://thm-a01.yimg.com/nimage/de12842f37b062cc)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 07:35:23 PM
Nathan Fillion was winning in the original poll too. That's so strange, I have had many people disagree with that choice, but he always seems to be ahead in the poll. Well we will see if he gets to 25 votes first.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 07:43:54 PM
Sorry, but I really don't see Viggo Mortenson as Michael.  He does grungy, emotional roles (The Road, Appaloosa) far too well to be relegated to a paladin.  Even if he is Aragorn (minor squee!).

I'd much prefer him to be an antagonist, or someone hindering Harry rather than helping him - such as Morgan, or Lloyd Slate.

I chose Viggo as Michael because of his role as Aragorn. Sean Bean was my second choice (coincidentally Boromir).

But someone (i think in this thread) pointed out he would make a good Marcone.
(http://www.bangitout.com/uploads/53viggo.jpg)
I am still not sold on this idea though, I don't know if Viggo could pull of the right attitude for Marcone.

As Morgan, eh, he'd probably be like my 5th choice.

As Slate, I picture Slate a little more stark raving mad drug user.

And btw that movie "The Road" was soooo super boring, I thought it was going to be a little more Mad Max.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 08:02:58 PM
This was my original choice for Slate. Sam Worthington.
(http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/l3/sam-worthington-0909-lg.jpg)
Really I just stuck him there because of his recent popularity though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on June 16, 2010, 08:06:02 PM
This topic has been discussed here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.0.html), among other places.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 08:11:16 PM
My second Slate choice. Matt Damon.
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/218/18787468an5.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/18787468an5.jpg/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 16, 2010, 08:15:53 PM
Not Nathan Fillion.  He's just not Harry.  Clive Owne sure, but you deleted him from the list.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 08:16:07 PM
And don't forget to vote for your favorite Dresden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on June 16, 2010, 08:17:51 PM
And don't forget to vote for your favorite Dresden here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18955.0.html)

Dude, the reason I pointed out this thread was so that we wouldn't have two threads covering mostly the same thing (as this thread includes everything your thread has except for a limited poll). Trying to keep the stress on Fred's server as low as possible, hmm?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 08:18:08 PM
This topic has been discussed here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.0.html), among other places.

I know, I have posted many times in that thread, but that's not my thread, so I can't do a poll on there.  :P

I have even asked to have my old thread about this merged with this one. I am way ahead of you on keeping the forums tidy.

For example, I have seen at least 5 threads about Sorcerer's Apprentice. They really should check before starting a new one.

I think this is an exception because of the poll though.

BTW did you vote? (see top of page)



Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 08:20:55 PM
Not Nathan Fillion.  He's just not Harry.  Clive Owne sure, but you deleted him from the list.

Clive Owen was my original choice too, but someone made a very valid point that Clive is too old, especially for Storm Front.

Clive might work if they started the movies with Changes.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 16, 2010, 08:33:22 PM
Dang, why is Nathan always winning.

LEE PACE! LEE PACE!
(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/muudang/rough.jpg)(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ne5Lb2SiFHg/Sxf_dmFG1aI/AAAAAAAApEs/ckn7Jko2eI0/s400/lee+pace.jpg)

You have to watch Pushing Daisies then you will see he has that awkward humor and he is 6'3" and in Pushing Daisies he is basically a Necromancer.

Yeah I know that is against the laws of magic but I wonder about that
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 16, 2010, 09:20:34 PM
I chose Viggo as Michael because of his role as Aragorn. Sean Bean was my second choice (coincidentally Boromir).

But someone (i think in this thread) pointed out he would make a good Marcone.
(http://www.bangitout.com/uploads/53viggo.jpg)
I am still not sold on this idea though, I don't know if Viggo could pull of the right attitude for Marcone.



Heh. That was me.

Of course, then I reread the Marcone description and saw that he "didn't look like the sort of man who would have my legs broken or my jaw wired shut. His salt-and-pepper hair was cut short, and there were lines from sun and smiling etched into the corners of his eyes. His eyes were the green of well-worn dollar bills. He seemed more like a college football coach: good-looking, tanned, athletic, and enthusiastic." (page 29, Storm Front hardback edition) so, now my pick for Marcone is a less cold looking, warmer Ray Wise, who looks very warm, kind and fatherly, but also makes you weary that he just might be the one to cement your feet together and toss you in a river.

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080910/Emmys-Comedy/Ray-Wise-Reaper_l.jpg)

This guy has been everywhere, not even kidding. Seriously, check out his IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936403/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936403/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 16, 2010, 11:05:24 PM
i liked him in history of violence, if he looked like that,he would be like a perfect Michael,and val kilmer is my choice for kincaid, well, when he was younger
(http://thm-a03.yimg.com/nimage/0adf1110a4eaa95a)
(http://thm-a01.yimg.com/nimage/de12842f37b062cc)

would help if the pics are big enough for me to actually see them >.<

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080910/Emmys-Comedy/Ray-Wise-Reaper_l.jpg)

This guy has been everywhere, not even kidding. Seriously, check out his IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936403/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936403/)

O.O wow. when you say everywhere, you really *aren't* kidding.

I don't know why, but with that description of marcone, this guy comes to mind: (http://martianoutpost.com/images/brucegreenwood.jpg)

[ur=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0339304/l]Bruce Greenwood[/url]... oh look, it's captain pike from the new star trek...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 16, 2010, 11:10:17 PM
Quote
Dang, why is Nathan always winning?
"Because he's Nathan" seems a trifle self-evident; were you looking for a more sophisticated answer than "Awesome in a spell-encrusted duster would awesome squared"? ;) Also, he's Canadian.

I like Lee Pace; but I'm not sure he's Harry. (Is he even thirty-two yet?)

I really like the idea of Ray Wise as Gentleman Johnny Marcone.

It occurs to me that Nikolaj Coster-Waldau would make a great Nicodemus.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 17, 2010, 12:02:34 AM


O.O wow. when you say everywhere, you really *aren't* kidding.


LOL. Kinda awesome, isn't it? He's even been on Dawson's Creek :-/ And I only wised up to him (heh. get it? wised up? cuz his last name's Wise?... I'll shut up.) because I recently saw him in an episode of Bones where he played some sort of crooked P.I. dude. He looked like a perfectly nice old man, and then he turned out to be part of a murder, ya know?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: stitchy1503 on June 17, 2010, 01:25:22 AM
that guy looks more like a pretty boy...thomas perhaps :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 17, 2010, 04:20:34 AM
that guy looks more like a pretty boy...thomas perhaps :P

Nah, wouldn't look good in a loincloth with butterfly wings.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 17, 2010, 04:29:31 AM
Nah, wouldn't look good in a loincloth with butterfly wings.

Oh good god, ^ that image.

I still say based on looks alone, it should be WWE wrestler John Morrison. As far as acting goes... I know nothing about him, but he certainly acts completely prideful and full of himself, the way Thomas sort of did at the very beginning.

(http://www.celebrity-sunglasses-finder.com/image-files/john_morrison.gif)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 17, 2010, 04:55:21 AM
Oh good god, ^ that image.

I still say based on looks alone, it should be WWE wrestler John Morrison. As far as acting goes... I know nothing about him, but he certainly acts completely prideful and full of himself, the way Thomas sort of did at the very beginning.

(http://www.celebrity-sunglasses-finder.com/image-files/john_morrison.gif)

OOo good abs!  Definate loincloth material, but would he go for the buterfly wings?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Coalprin on June 17, 2010, 05:00:57 AM
Hmmmm, think they'd make him wear The Hat?  :D

 (http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/57747920/sn/1823678583/name/magichat2.jpg)
   "Check it, guys! I'm a Wee-Zard!!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: stitchy1503 on June 17, 2010, 01:29:02 PM
Hmmmm, think they'd make him wear The Hat?  :D

 (http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/57747920/sn/1823678583/name/magichat2.jpg)
   "Check it, guys! I'm a Wee-Zard!!"

well, i'm sold! :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 17, 2010, 02:43:09 PM
@j3nnee

Your inbox is full.

Anyhow. I don't know if you noticed, but I had a seperate thread about casting but I had added a poll to mine. So yesterday I requested to have them merge it with your thread and they did, but you now control it.

I figure first actor to get 25 votes should win. Then when the winner of that poll is decided. Then you could delete that poll and start one for Thomas, Murphy, or Michael. Those seem to be the next 3 most discussed characters. Followed by Molly, Marcone, and Nicodemus.

@everyone reading this thread

Sound about right to you all?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 17, 2010, 03:05:05 PM
Where does the image of Nathan in the trilby hat come from? It's new to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 17, 2010, 03:10:33 PM
Fillion - I still disagree with Nathan, but so far it looks like he is way ahead.
I guess it's because the only thing I have ever seen with him was Serenity

Pace - I did watch all of Pushing Daisies, which it seems like I might be the only one. I think he's great.

Olyphant - Haven't looked at him the same since Hitman, that movie was soo super cheesy.

Renolds - Everyone seems to be hatin' on Renolds as Deadpool, I thought he worked out.

Quinto - Well come on, Sylar is awesome! Not to mention Spock.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on June 17, 2010, 03:53:30 PM
(http://100grana.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/push3.jpg)

Give him the duster and staff and that's done, in my opinion.  I still stand by Chris Evans :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 17, 2010, 04:13:24 PM
(http://100grana.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/push3.jpg)

Give him the duster and staff and that's done, in my opinion.  I still stand by Chris Evans :D

My original choice was Clive Owen, but he is too old.

Now my first choice would be Lee Pace.

My second choice would probably be a tie between Zachary Quinto and Chris Evans.

Quinto might be a little too serious to pull off the snarky Harry.

And Evans might do funny too well. I remember Not Another Teen Movie. But he was pretty serious in Push, which i loved btw.

I also thought Dakota would make a good Molly because of this role.

And coincidentally Djimon Hounsou would make a good Sanya, but because of his role in Gladiator.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 17, 2010, 04:17:46 PM
OOo good abs!  Definate loincloth material, but would he go for the buterfly wings?

I used to watch wrestling regularly. He used to glue sequins in the lines of his abs. I don't really think he'll have much of a problem with butterfly wings :) Especially since his body will be entirely on display as he stands next to a Harry who's dressed as a cheesy vampire :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 17, 2010, 04:21:52 PM
YES!  I love a man who can do sequins :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 17, 2010, 04:35:59 PM
Okay, so I was kind of surprised when I did a celebrity recognition run on Matt Bomer (who I still demand for Thomas. John Morrison is my second choice by way of The God of Bowflex body.). I wanted to see if there were any particular male celebrities that looked enough like him that could be cast as Harry as well, and this is who I got (I'll add the percentage of matching as they pertain to Matt).

So here's Matt Bomer:
(http://catherinette.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/matt_bomer.jpg)

And this is everyone that the facial recognition thingy thinks looks like him. I agree on maybe two of them:

*Josh Holloway 63%
Hayden Christiansen 55% (NO.)
Gael Garcia Bernal 55% (NO.)
*Ian Somerhalder 54%
Josh Hartnett 53% (NO.)
Ronan Keating 53% (NO.)
Leonardo DiCaprio 52% (NO.)
Oded Fehr 49% (NO.)
Frank Lampard 48% (Definite NO. I'm wondering if the face recognition thing really knows what it's doing. The picture they used for this guy looks more like a match for Elijah Wood than for Matt Bomer.)

I've already named Josh Holloway as my pick to play Kincaid, so he's out. Which leaves Ian Somerhalder who has more of a resemblance to Bomer than Holloway does. Once again, I wonder if the FCR knows what it's doing, or not.) Somerhalder is on the CW hit show The Vampire Diaries (not that I've watched it. I've been so played out on the new vamp shows/movies that I've been clinging to Buffy with both arms and legs.) Aside from TVD, I know nothing about Somerhalder's acting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 17, 2010, 04:42:31 PM
YES!  I love a man who can do sequins :)

LOL. I personally thought it was awesome. But dear god, don't try doing a google image search on it. I found everything BUT that picture. :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on June 17, 2010, 04:47:36 PM
OOo good abs!  Definate loincloth material, but would he go for the buterfly wings?

He's a pro wrestler.  Have you seen some of the outfits he's worn?  That said, WINNAR.  I've found my Thomas.  Not as pretty-boy as Bomer, but I don't think Thomas should be.  This is "predator angel" and "god of Bowflex".  This is what Thomas should look like.  Get 'im some contacts and we're good to go.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 17, 2010, 05:01:15 PM
@j3nnee

Your inbox is full.

Anyhow. I don't know if you noticed, but I had a seperate thread about casting but I had added a poll to mine. So yesterday I requested to have them merge it with your thread and they did, but you now control it.

I figure first actor to get 25 votes should win. Then when the winner of that poll is decided. Then you could delete that poll and start one for Thomas, Murphy, or Michael. Those seem to be the next 3 most discussed characters. Followed by Molly, Marcone, and Nicodemus.

@everyone reading this thread

Sound about right to you all?

Uhm shouldn't be my thread and how is my box full. Hmmm... don't remember being that popular. LOL
I think they just restart threads when they get full with whomever is the last poster on the old thread.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Coalprin on June 17, 2010, 05:28:04 PM
Okay, so I was kind of surprised when I did a celebrity recognition run on Matt Bomer (who I still demand for Thomas. John Morrison is my second choice by way of The God of Bowflex body.).

Bomer could totally pull off Thomas. Good one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 17, 2010, 08:32:52 PM
Matt Bomer seems to be the popular choice for Thomas. I wish I knew who he is. I mean of course I checked out his IMDB profile, but I have never seen any of his work, so I couldn't vouch if he has the right attitude and talent to play Thomas. He does have some....piercing eyes. I guess piercing is the right word.

I think "Prince of Persia" Jake Gyllenhaal could pull it off. But I thought of him when I originally thought Clive Owen should be Harry Dresden, and I thought the two actors could pass for brothers.
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/09/prince01.jpg)

I also think Chris Pine has a good look for it too.
(http://www.vanityfair.com/images/culture/2009/05/chris-pine-0905-ps04.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 17, 2010, 08:35:34 PM
He's a pro wrestler.  Have you seen some of the outfits he's worn?  That said, WINNAR.  I've found my Thomas.  Not as pretty-boy as Bomer, but I don't think Thomas should be.  This is "predator angel" and "god of Bowflex".  This is what Thomas should look like.  Get 'im some contacts and we're good to go.

Hee! Yay! Kali picked one of my choices :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 17, 2010, 08:58:44 PM
Really? A wrestler?

The only wrestler turned actor that I actually like is Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, but that's because I think he actually does comedy well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 17, 2010, 10:34:11 PM
Sorry, best pictures I can find of Lee Mead in a Loincloth

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad248/Scop_1/Tommy/CEDlarge-1.jpg)

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad248/Scop_1/Tommy/Princy3.jpg)

(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad248/Scop_1/Tommy/leeloin3.jpg)


(if you missed eariler postings, he does Musical Theatre in the West End, London
These pictures are from Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat
My Geekdom knows no bounds!!!  Got to love that British Leg hair  8))
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 18, 2010, 02:07:41 AM
Can't figure out if I'd like Peter Wingfield (Methos from Highlander, Police captain in Caprica) for Michael or Nicodemus.

http://www.peterwingfield.com/gallery.shtml (http://www.peterwingfield.com/gallery.shtml)

In a couple of pictures on that site, he could even pull off Papa Raith
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 18, 2010, 02:14:23 AM
Why not James Marster as Harry? I just picked up some of the audiobooks and his voice is set in my head for Harry then Sarah Michelle Gellar can be Murph (making the size about right for both).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on June 18, 2010, 03:37:55 AM
Wow!  Peter Wingfield as Nicodemus, definitely!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 18, 2010, 04:08:56 AM
Nicodemus it is!

Like the James and Sarah picks, too!


MMmm what about Molly Cyrus for Molly?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 18, 2010, 04:13:39 AM
Really? A wrestler?

What do you think they do on television exactly? There's physical activity involved, but everything else, the plot lines, the feuds, etc.... it's all acting. Sure, most of them suck at it, but they're usually pulled in because they look the part anyway. John Morrison might be able to act, he might not, I don't know, but as far as perfect visual casting goes -- he looks the part of Thomas that I've always had in my head. Long, curling dark hair, massively hunky abs... Harry's already referred to Thomas in the books as the God of Bowflex and I swear to God, one of Morrison's nicknames on the WWE is "The Shaman of Sexy." I'm sorry, but in my mind, that immediately translates to Thomas :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 18, 2010, 04:25:01 AM
Why not James Marster as Harry? I just picked up some of the audiobooks and his voice is set in my head for Harry then Sarah Michelle Gellar can be Murph (making the size about right for both).

James as Harry was an original concept for the TV show... he just turned it down because he wasn't willing to leave his kids and move in order to film it. (Altogether now: awwwwwww!) I'd love for James to play Harry, but there are several issues that I regretfully have to acknowledge about that, and the first and most prominent is his height. Harry's nearly 7' tall, and James is somewhere around 5'9" to 5'11". And if you were to cast James with Sarah (which would make millions of Spuffy fans hearts gleefully burst in happiness, lemme tell you), the lack of excessive height difference would be very noticeable. Murph's a munchkin compared to Harry.

The books say that Karrin is 5' even -- Sarah is 5'3" which works fine as far as height goes. She's athletic, and she actually has been studying martial arts for years just like Murphy (though her prowess is in Tae Kwon Do, not Aikido), and bonus -- she's done the kick-ass heroine before. The books also say that Murphy's got cheerleader good looks, and hey, what was Sarah for nearly a decade if not a butt-kicking tiny blonde cheerleader?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 18, 2010, 01:12:13 PM
What do you think they do on television exactly? There's physical activity involved, but everything else, the plot lines, the feuds, etc.... it's all acting. Sure, most of them suck at it, but they're usually pulled in because they look the part anyway.

Well I know that they act, it's basically a Soap Opera for men.

I think Dwayne Johnson actually made the transition well, his mistake was getting into the kids movies, which have been like his past 4 or 5 movies like the Toothfairy. Same thing that Hulk Hogan did back in the day with Mr. Nanny.

But I looked at some other pics of your wrestler and I saw some that I could see as Thomas.

Then in others I thought he kind of looks like a young Val Kilmer.
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu290/anusia50/JohnMorrisond.png)(http://lifeissweet16.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/madmartigan.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 18, 2010, 01:29:25 PM
Madmartigan! Willow was awesome! Too bad George Lucas movies suck now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 18, 2010, 01:33:13 PM
Can't figure out if I'd like Peter Wingfield (Methos from Highlander, Police captain in Caprica) for Michael or Nicodemus.

http://www.peterwingfield.com/gallery.shtml (http://www.peterwingfield.com/gallery.shtml)

In a couple of pictures on that site, he could even pull off Papa Raith

I think Papa Raith, and I could also see him as Nicodemus, not for Michael though.

I use to love Highlander. Makes me feel old since that show started almost 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cass on June 18, 2010, 01:53:52 PM
Ah! He was in the latest attempted adaption of Riverworld.
He makes a really, really good villain; not sure how well he matches the book description of Nicodemus, but he could pull it off, I bet.
I also kinda like him for Morgan-- I think he'd do well (in the early books) as a fanatic/burnt out cop.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 18, 2010, 03:48:22 PM
Ah! He was in the latest attempted adaption of Riverworld.
He makes a really, really good villain; not sure how well he matches the book description of Nicodemus, but he could pull it off, I bet.
I also kinda like him for Morgan-- I think he'd do well (in the early books) as a fanatic/burnt out cop.

He could definitely pull off the Morgan attitude, but I picture Morgan as not as....sharp featured, more like some mean looking Stephen Lang type, or maybe even Jason Statham.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 18, 2010, 05:06:13 PM
Speaking only for myself, I would have no interest -- absolutely none -- in a Dresden Files universe in which there was a Spuffy redux. I say this as a fan of Buffy, and of Joss Whedon in general, but I don't need to see James Marsters and Sarah Michelle Gellar reprise their roles to even the smallest extent.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 18, 2010, 06:35:24 PM
Off topic a bit but what did you all think of James Marsters as Lord Piccolo?
(http://www.pep.ph/images/guide/644fb5ab6.jpg)
I am Dragonball fan, but I thought this movie was awful. I think everyone pretty much disliked it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 18, 2010, 08:41:59 PM
only 37 votes? is that all the Dresden Files fans.  :-[
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Coalprin on June 18, 2010, 08:44:28 PM
All the ones that care about this topic, at least.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on June 18, 2010, 10:33:42 PM
If we could break the Laws of Magic and travel through time to get the ideal star at the ideal age to play a role, I'd nominate James Cromwell. First of all, he's 6'7", which is, depending on which interview you catch Jim in, either Harry's height or only 2 inches less. Second of all, he's got the general facial structure that my mind's eye has put on Harry (not to mention similar to that of Alexis Denisof, the person Jim himself said would be perfect for the role). Third, he's got the surliness and wiseassery that are SO essential to Harry down pat.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 18, 2010, 11:26:46 PM
Off topic a bit but what did you all think of James Marsters as Lord Piccolo?
(http://www.pep.ph/images/guide/644fb5ab6.jpg)
I am Dragonball fan, but I thought this movie was awful. I think everyone pretty much disliked it.

Dude, I never saw it and I disliked it, lol. I'm mostly just impressed that Marsters freaking SAT THERE and told the make-up person to make him look uglier.

Yah-huh. It's like when Charlize Theron put on all that weight to play the lesbian serial killer years back. Again, I say, I am impressed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 18, 2010, 11:28:52 PM
If we could break the Laws of Magic and travel through time to get the ideal star at the ideal age to play a role, I'd nominate James Cromwell. First of all, he's 6'7", which is, depending on which interview you catch Jim in, either Harry's height or only 2 inches less. Second of all, he's got the general facial structure that my mind's eye has put on Harry (not to mention similar to that of Alexis Denisof, the person Jim himself said would be perfect for the role). Third, he's got the surliness and wiseassery that are SO essential to Harry down pat.

*gasp* I am ashamed of myself. I never considered that at all. And I feel even more ashamed for not thinking of Alexis Denisof. He's full-blooded American, and I keep imagining him with that damn British accent from Angel and Buffy. Arghity. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways, Shecky :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 19, 2010, 05:53:55 AM
Wow!  Peter Wingfield as Nicodemus, definitely!

The funny thing is when I think of Nicodemus... I think of James Mason. I don't know why.
I also think (old actor pool) Ed Ames would have made an awesome (draws a ________) ... the native american Wizard. *hits head trying to recall*
or maybe the guy who was in Dances with Wolves... the one who didn't like Kevin Costner's character but at the end is screaming "My name is so and so and I am your friend!" (see my  memory is slipping and I'm not even 40 yet) :P

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 19, 2010, 05:56:06 AM
Off topic a bit but what did you all think of James Marsters as Lord Piccolo?
(http://www.pep.ph/images/guide/644fb5ab6.jpg)
I am Dragonball fan, but I thought this movie was awful. I think everyone pretty much disliked it.

I didn't like it and I didn't see it and I'm not a DBZ fan LOL (back to topic)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 19, 2010, 09:47:01 PM
I didn't like it and I didn't see it and I'm not a DBZ fan LOL (back to topic)

I didn't see this movie, but I did enjoy the Indian version :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 20, 2010, 12:36:27 AM
Hmmm...

Not seeing too many people casting Charity... and maybe I'm just bored being stuck working on a Saturday but I was thinking of this actress for her:

Marcia Gay Harden

http://www.more.com/images/photo/image/78/91/photo/7891/original/MarciaGayHarden.UseThis.jpg

I don't know... how old is Michael and Charity supposed to be?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 20, 2010, 01:15:18 AM
Hmmm...

Not seeing too many people casting Charity... and maybe I'm just bored being stuck working on a Saturday but I was thinking of this actress for her:

Marcia Gay Harden

http://www.more.com/images/photo/image/78/91/photo/7891/original/MarciaGayHarden.UseThis.jpg

I don't know... how old is Michael and Charity supposed to be?
interesting. I kinda like her.

but can she pull off a storming-the-arctis-tor type of action?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 20, 2010, 02:33:38 AM
Hmmm...

Not seeing too many people casting Charity... and maybe I'm just bored being stuck working on a Saturday but I was thinking of this actress for her:

Marcia Gay Harden

http://www.more.com/images/photo/image/78/91/photo/7891/original/MarciaGayHarden.UseThis.jpg

I don't know... how old is Michael and Charity supposed to be?

Well... Michael rescued Charity when she was about 18, didn't he? And Michael is around 20 years older than Harry at the start of Grave Peril (and since GP took place about two years after Storm Front, that puts Harry at about 27, which puts Michael somewhere around 45 to 47). If Michael's around 47, there's any where from a 10 to 16 (using a VERY broad spectrum) year age difference between him and Charity, though I would put Charity somewhere in her early to mid thirties in GP. Molly is 14 at the time of DM, and 17 at the time of Proven Guilty, which would lend a sort of credence to that...

In PG, Charity says that after Michael saved her, she quit her powers, and married him not long after. If she was 18 or 19 at the time she gave birth to Molly, that would put her around 35 to 36 years old. Then again, Molly's age is all screwy in the books, since she seems to have had two birthdays between Proven Guilty and White Night.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 21, 2010, 07:02:04 AM
Ok... lots of people saying "who the heck is Matt Bomer..." or "Why should he play Thomas?"

I think his role as Bryce Larkin was rather Thomas-like in many ways. He was kind of interesting in the role:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fgmcqvwLH4

Brief but weird scene from Chuck (spoilers if you didn't see the end of Season 2 of the show yet but it's funny.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 01:15:46 PM
Hmmm...

Not seeing too many people casting Charity... and maybe I'm just bored being stuck working on a Saturday but I was thinking of this actress for her:

Marcia Gay Harden

http://www.more.com/images/photo/image/78/91/photo/7891/original/MarciaGayHarden.UseThis.jpg

I don't know... how old is Michael and Charity supposed to be?

All I can think of when I see her is that crazy role that she played in "The Mist". I hated that character, granted that was the point, you weren't suppose to like her, but I guess it ruined that actress for me, I only see her as a villain now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 01:25:02 PM
For Charity I picture more Diane Lane type, but I think Lane would be too old, even though she is 45 now.
(http://www.dianelane.org/images/Diane-Lane-Picture.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 21, 2010, 02:57:32 PM
For Charity I picture more Diane Lane type, but I think Lane would be too old, even though she is 45 now.
(http://www.dianelane.org/images/Diane-Lane-Picture.jpg)



Diana Lane has alwasy beeb the Leanansidhe to me.  She is the perfect age for it and still beautiful, timeless, and you could see her on the White Court.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 04:58:21 PM
Diana Lane has alwasy beeb the Leanansidhe to me.  She is the perfect age for it and still beautiful, timeless, and you could see her on the White Court.

I think you mean Winter Court. Yeah I could see her as Lea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 05:29:49 PM
So who would you rather see as Mab.

Angelina Jolie or Monica Bellucci?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 21, 2010, 05:47:55 PM
So who would you rather see as Mab.

Angelina Jolie or Monica Bellucci?

mab = jolie

bellucci = lash :D

just my two cents.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 21, 2010, 05:52:12 PM
Mab is a difficult one to cast, to me: Someone who could combine the strange, otherworldly qualities of Tilda Swinton with the ethereal beauty of someone like Diane Krueger would be perfect.

La Bellucci isn't chilly enough for Mab. I could see her as Aurora, maybe.

Lash doesn't need to be mercilessly beautiful. I see her as being a little more approachable. Somewhat like Emily Lloyd, or the way Emily Lloyd used to look, at any rate.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 06:16:15 PM
@Jaeh

Ha! that was exactly the opposite of what I had originally. But I guess they are pretty interchangeable.

@Atanvarno
I think Lash is suppose to look breathtaking, at least when she wants to, afterall she can pretty much make herself appear as whatever and she is "The Temptress".

So I picture someone very sensual, but also mature, and smokin' hot, for both characters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 06:17:46 PM
and Tilda Swinton as Winter Queen.........*sigh* someone has been watching too much Chronicles of Narnia.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 06:24:44 PM
I guess Bellucci is going to be a little tainted for the Dresden Cast anyways since she is doing The Sorcerer's Apprentice, on the other hand it may give her even more clout to be in the Dresden Cast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 21, 2010, 06:27:48 PM
So who would you rather see as Mab.

Angelina Jolie or Monica Bellucci?

Monica Bellucci hands down.  Angelina is too young (34).  Monica is 45 (5'8), yet looks ageless.  (I can only wish that I will that lovely when I am 45  ;))
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/8600000/Monica-Bellucci-as-the-Mirror-Queen-monica-bellucci-8689670-1000-1489.jpg)(http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/monica-bellucci/monica-bellucci-20050601-43942.jpg)

I have two for Lash...

Anna Torv (32 - 5'8) - I have always though she was so striking that she could be one of the fallen.
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3600000/anna-anna-torv-3684188-480-640.jpg)

Melanie Laurent - although she is a little young (27) and petite (5'2).  But I think fallen angels could be any age.
(http://celebrity-pictures.ca/Celebrities/Melanie-Laurent/Melanie-Laurent-1164888.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 21, 2010, 06:43:02 PM
MMmm what about Molly Cyrus for Molly?


All I can think of to say is "No."  Then I stop and think again.  Maybe, all I've seen her as is Hannah "OhmygawdImgonnahurlgetmeoutofhere" Montana.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 21, 2010, 06:53:40 PM
and Tilda Swinton as Winter Queen.........*sigh* someone has been watching too much Chronicles of Narnia.
Ha! I've never seen it, believe it or not. I realized as soon as I posted that was the first thing that anyone else would think.

I keep trying to think of the description of Lash from White Night. Something about how she's described there - simple dress, light brown hair - strikes me as being far less overtly glamorous than Lara or the Queens or Ladies of the Sidhe.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 21, 2010, 08:55:18 PM
Lash should look more girl next door pretty than supermodel pretty? Okay, I buy it.

However I don't know about the two suggestions. I am not familiar with Anna Torv. And I only know Melanie Laurent from Inglorious Bastards, and she didn't really give me the fallen angel/temptress vibe, though she did vengful well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 21, 2010, 09:56:26 PM
Lash should look more girl next door pretty than supermodel pretty? Okay, I buy it.

However I don't know about the two suggestions. I am not familiar with Anna Torv. And I only know Melanie Laurent from Inglorious Bastards, and she didn't really give me the fallen angel/temptress vibe, though she did vengful well.

Anna Torv.  Agent Olivia Dunham from Fringe.  Australian actress.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on June 21, 2010, 10:34:46 PM
Anna Torv.  Agent Olivia Dunham from Fringe.  Australian actress.

Or, as I like to call her, Cate Blanchett's kid sister only without the acting chops or personal magnetism.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 21, 2010, 11:16:39 PM
All I can think of to say is "No."  Then I stop and think again.  Maybe, all I've seen her as is Hannah "OhmygawdImgonnahurlgetmeoutofhere" Montana.

I dunno. I mean, from Hannah Montana, kid can't act. but.. then again, it might just be because it's a disney thing...

Lash should look more girl next door pretty than supermodel pretty? Okay, I buy it.

Lash? : (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/11043/320x480YvonneStrahovski003.jpg)
Yvonne strahovski from chuck. *shrug* she's blond, though. but i think she can do brown hair easy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 22, 2010, 02:04:26 AM
Yvonne strahovski from chuck.
She'd be a good Murphy (not sure of the height but she's cute enough).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on June 22, 2010, 02:15:20 AM
Yvonne strahovski from chuck.
She'd be a good Murphy (not sure of the height but she's cute enough).


IMDB has Yvonne @ 5' 9Œ"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 22, 2010, 02:17:24 AM
Newman!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 01:33:00 PM
IMDB has Yvonne @ 5' 9Œ"

Too tall for Murphy.

I think she has the right subtle beauty that everyone was looking for in Lash. I don't watch Chuck though so I don't know if she has the attitude for Lash. I am not saying she couldn't do it.

I can think of a few that could play Lash, but I don't really have a solid picture of her formed in my mind already.

Kristen Bell
Jessica Biel
Famke Janssen
Cate Blanchett
Kate Mara
Kirsten Dunst
Milla Jovavich
Naomi Watts
Kate Beckinsale

*this is really just a list of actresses that I like  :P
**I think you can tell I like movies more than TV shows
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 22, 2010, 01:44:39 PM
I could buy Kate Mara as Lash. Even better, Naomi Watts as Lash, and Kate Mara (with brown hair) as Shiela.

Famke might make a good Gard, if she went blond.

Milla Jovovich cannot act. At all.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 22, 2010, 01:45:24 PM
Too tall for Murphy.

I think she has the right subtle beauty that everyone was looking for in Lash. I don't watch Chuck though so I don't know if she has the attitude for Lash. I am not saying she couldn't do it.

I can think of a few that could play Lash, but I don't really have a solid picture of her formed in my mind already.

Kristen Bell
Jessica Biel
Famke Janssen
Cate Blanchett
Kate Mara
Kirsten Dunst
Milla Jovavich
Naomi Watts
Kate Beckinsale

*this is really just a list of actresses that I like  :P
**I think you can tell I like movies more than TV shows

don't really like Kirsten Dunst and Milla Jovovich.

Yvonne ftw. xD

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 01:55:12 PM
No one seems to like Milla Jovavich. I guess she isn't the greatest actress, but Fifth Element is probably my favorite movie ever, and it was the first time I saw her, so kind of left an impression. However when I think of the Resident Evil movies....yeah, she really can't act that well.

Kirsten Dunst, same here, I first saw her in Interview with the Vampire, left an impression. However in the Spider-Man movies she really falls short when it comes to acting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 01:58:05 PM
I could buy Kate Mara as Lash. Even better, Naomi Watts as Lash, and Kate Mara (with brown hair) as Shiela.

Famke might make a good Gard, if she went blond.

I kind of had Kate Mara pegged as Justine.

Shiela? Lash when she is working in the book store?

I thought Cate Blanchett would make a good Gard, but Famke would work too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 22, 2010, 03:00:08 PM

Famke Janssen to me will always be Lara Raith. 
"Lara does more for me sitting in a chair..." ~ Harry Dredsen to Madeline Raith at Zero.
(http://i32.tinypic.com/nlv3th.jpg)(http://lh5.ggpht.com/morischanturidze/RkJ860HXl6I/AAAAAAAADhA/iebEOSvhylk/famke_janssen_026.jpg)

As for Gard, it would be really nice if they actually got a Scandinavian actress to play her.  

Sofia Ledarp could always dye her hair. (She is in the movie "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo")
(http://www.artistgruppen.se/clients/sofialedarp/mainimage.jpg)

Malin Åkerman (31, 5'8) (She was in "The Watchman")
(http://recent-movies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/malin-akerman.jpg)


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 22, 2010, 03:25:21 PM
@Sihnon

Famke Janssen as Lara, and Malin Åkerman as Gard FTW. Love it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 03:59:23 PM
Famke as Lara, I don't know why I didn't put this together myself, it's brilliant!

Sofia Ledarp, I like her, but can she speak english? I saw Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, good movie, all subbed though, don't know if this actress even speaks english.

Malin Åkerman did well in Watchmen, but I have also seen some of the Romantic Comedies (Heartbreak Kid, Couples Retreat) she has been in so I don't know if I could take her serious as Gard.

A lot of people mentioned Tilda Swinton earlier in this thread, I think she is sort of how I picture Gard.

However I agree it would be awesomer if they had an actual Scandinavian actress.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 22, 2010, 04:50:18 PM
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I kind of had Kate Mara pegged as Justine.
Oooh, yeah! Bingo.

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who is Shiela? Lash when she is working in the book store?
Yup. I wouldn't necessarily want them played by the same actress, is what I'm saying.

I somehow think Famke is probably a little too tall for Lara, but otherwise, she's a great suggestion. I have an idea in my head for Luccio (v. 2.0), but I can't put a name to the face.

Malin Åkerman is fine for Gard, being both Swedish-born and Canadian. Yes, we're just that awesome. Or, in some cases, åsome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 05:03:17 PM
While we are on the topic of Scandinavian actors, who should play Donar Vadderung?

Can't be Alexander Skarsgård, he is already Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 05:04:58 PM
I somehow Famke is probably a little too tall for Lara, but otherwise, she's a great suggestion.

Famke is 6' even according to IMDB, I think that would be ok for Lara.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 22, 2010, 05:06:10 PM
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I somehow think Famke is probably a little too tall for Lara, but otherwise, she's a great suggestion.
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Famke is 6' even according to IMDB, I think that would be ok for Lara.
It's not a big deal, but I think of Lara as being not very tall, but very curvy. Famke could certainly give her the requisite mesmerizing quality.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 22, 2010, 05:10:50 PM
Luccio 2.0

hum? tough one

I picture a petite attractive brunette that can be wicked as Corpsetaker, and then also play Luccio who is the captain of the wardens, and also sometimes her italian accent comes out even as Luccio 2.0
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on June 22, 2010, 06:02:56 PM
Taking this back a few posts, it's worth noting that Strahovski is naturally a brunette. She's a bottle blonde.  So are 9/10ths of the blondes you see wandering around.  Blonde hair is a recessive trait. ;)  Sarah Michelle Gellar?  Brunette.  So's Kirsten Dunst, Reese Witherspoon, Cameron Diaz, etc., etc., etc.  The only point to this is that you shouldn't let hair color determine whether or not someone could play a role to perfection.  Anyone can have ANY color hair you want.  Dye jobs are wonderful things.

By the way, IMO most blondes would look far sexier as brunettes.  Tea Leoni should be forcibly restrained until her hair goes back to the shade it was in Bad Boys.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 22, 2010, 06:25:16 PM
We need Paul Newman in here somew...

Damn, that's right.  Never mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 22, 2010, 06:30:57 PM
Man, how much would Paul Newman have rocked as Gentleman Johnny? Yes, his eyes were famously blue, rather than green, but then again, Mr. Newman did make a movie called The Color of Money. We could have worked something out, dang it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: HarryMcCoy on June 22, 2010, 07:13:39 PM
Does anybody watch the show Leverage on TNT? Paul Blackthorne guest starred in the Season 2 finale as a shady businessman, and he just screamed Marcone to me. Would be a nice kick back to the TV series.

And she's a little too old for the role, but Kirsten Nelson who plays Chief Vick on Psych has always screamed Murphy to me. Authoritative, blond hair, short. It could definitely work.

Orlando Bloom for Thomas. Makes sense. Has that appeal to women, has the curly black hair thing. Tall but not abnormally so.

Cilian Murphy for Madrigal Raith. Has that other-worldly, somewhat sinister look. Can definitely see him as a little weasel in White Night.

Ebenezer McCoy- Wilford Brimley. Enough said.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 22, 2010, 07:14:25 PM
Geoffry Rush for Morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 22, 2010, 07:34:00 PM
Re-reading the thread, I'm now convinced that Kali's earlier choice for Mab, Olivia Williams, would make an excellent Lash. Poised, beautiful, intelligent - just think of what Ms. Williams could do with Lash's breakdown at the end of White Night. Yow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on June 22, 2010, 07:43:08 PM
Orlando Bloom for Thomas. Makes sense. Has that appeal to women, has the curly black hair thing. Tall but not abnormally so.
Please no, he's really not a very good actor. He's ruin Thomas, particulairly once we got to the point where he started speaking with a French accent and acting flamoyantly gay.
Geoffry Rush for Morgan.
Hmm, that could work... I sort of like him for McCoy too.

I'm pretty sure this has already been said this, but Morgan Freeman as Uriel, but only when he appears as Jake. Even if I hadn't seen he play God, the man can do pretty much any role. When Uriel appeared in Changes, he had a different appearance, so for that, someone much younger, not sure who...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on June 22, 2010, 07:44:06 PM
Lee-Ann Liebenberg as Lash. She's the tattoo faced woman in Doomsday, and she exuded danger and loving it.
(http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2008_Doomsday/008DMD_Lee_Anne_Liebenberg_003.jpg)
(http://photos.friendster.com/photos/40/17/92097104/1_851274478m.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 22, 2010, 07:50:02 PM

Orlando Bloom for Thomas. Makes sense. Has that appeal to women, has the curly black hair thing. Tall but not abnormally so.

Cilian Murphy for Madrigal Raith. Has that other-worldly, somewhat sinister look. Can definitely see him as a little weasel in White Night.


Cilian is good choice for Madrigal.  
(http://images.askmen.com/galleries/men/cillian-murphy/pictures/cillian-murphy-picture-3.jpg)

But Orlando for Thomas ...sorry, but he is way too short (it says 5'10 on IMBD, ahhh, not a chance maybe 5'8, I've met him in person.)  Also he's only 33.  I think this artist really has a good rendintion of Thomas, next to the actor from "White Collar," Matthew Boomer.  Who is also 33, but looks alot older and his comedic timing is well crafted.  I know he's been mentioned several times before, but after re-reading 'Changes', I can totally see it.
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2009/240/3/3/Thomas__Dresden_Files_by_dauntingfire.jpg)(http://97.74.93.55/images/stories/tvshows/WhiteCollar/White-Collar-Matthew-Bomer-1.JPG)

With Johnny Marcone, we know he is in his forties.... good looking, but tough, average height (5'10-6')
(http://pics.livejournal.com/bookshop/pic/0042eaa7)  (http://static.open.salon.com/files/bio-chris-noth1245090955.jpg)
Now, I would say George Clooney, but he is also too short.  And like Chris Noth, both may be too old for the role.  Although, Chris Noth is usually who I think of when I think of Johnny Marcone.  

However, I found this by an artist that I think works
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs47/f/2009/254/f/a/Dresden_Files__Johnny_Marcone_by_dauntingfire.jpg)

**EDITED for spelling and to post photos**
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 22, 2010, 08:31:24 PM
Please no, he's really not a very good actor. He's ruin Thomas, particulairly once we got to the point where he started speaking with a French accent and acting flamoyantly gay.

Thank god someone else agrees with me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 22, 2010, 08:38:47 PM
Thank god someone else agrees with me.

I agree too!  I think Orlando always plays another version of 'Legolas' in every film he does. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Magnus on June 22, 2010, 08:43:55 PM
But now to the important question who should play Toot-Toot?

(Just want to see your thoughts on the minor characters as well, like Toot-Toot, Tera West, Listens To The Wind, Mortimer, Larry Fowler and so on)

Larry should be played by Jerry Springer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 22, 2010, 08:54:32 PM
(http://pics.livejournal.com/bookshop/pic/0042eaa7)

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs47/f/2009/254/f/a/Dresden_Files__Johnny_Marcone_by_dauntingfire.jpg)


...

Holy CRAP!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 22, 2010, 09:35:07 PM
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I think Orlando always plays another version of 'Legolas' in every film he does.
Ehh. I didn't see Legolas in Troy, nor in Elizabethtown. It's not Bloom's fault that (a) Troy was kind of a mess; and (b) he was playing a twerp. Paris is one of the great nincompoops of literature. Whatever limits there may be on his range, he's not right for Thomas.

I was thinking that Edward Kerr is a close match for the physical description of Marcone.

I can't help thinking of Gina Torres when I think of Tera.

I could see Liebenberg as one of Lara's sisters, but she doesn't make me think of Lasciel.  

Gordon Tootoosis would make a great Listens-To-Wind. I definitely heard his voice in my head when I read Turn Coat.

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When Uriel appeared in Changes, he had a different appearance, so for that, someone much younger, not sure who...
... Denzel?  ;D He's already played one of the Fallen, arguably.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on June 22, 2010, 09:51:01 PM
I agree too!  I think Orlando always plays another version of 'Legolas' in every film he does. 
I wish. In my opinion, that was pretty much his only good role and I'm pretty sure that part of that is because more of Legolas's best parts were done by a stunt double.

With Johnny Marcone, we know he is in his forties.... good looking, but tough, average height (5'10-6')
(http://pics.livejournal.com/bookshop/pic/0042eaa7)  (http://static.open.salon.com/files/bio-chris-noth1245090955.jpg)
Now, I would say George Clooney, but he is also too short.  And like Chris Noth, both may be too old for the role.  Although, Chris Noth is usually who I think of when I think of Johnny Marcone. 

Now that I look at that picture of George Clooney, I can definitely see Marone. However, while Clooney may be able to pull off the look, I'm not sure about the personality. I think of other roles I've seen him in and I think Marcone is a bit too serious a character for him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 22, 2010, 10:33:15 PM
I agree too!  I think Orlando always plays another version of 'Legolas' in every film he does. 

I always want to strangle him every time I rewatch Pirates of the Caribbean... though it may just be because Will Turner annoys me to death.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 22, 2010, 10:39:55 PM
Cilian is good choice for Madrigal.  
(http://images.askmen.com/galleries/men/cillian-murphy/pictures/cillian-murphy-picture-3.jpg)

Plus he has that eerie little 'I'm a Masochistic Murderous Little Freak that's Jealous of My Much More Awesome Cousin' look to him.

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But Orlando for Thomas ...sorry, but he is way too short (it says 5'10 on IMBD, ahhh, not a chance maybe 5'8, I've met him in person.)  Also he's only 33.  I think this artist really has a good rendintion of Thomas, next to the actor from "White Collar," Matthew Boomer.  Who is also 33, but looks alot older and his comedic timing is well crafted.  I know he's been mentioned several times before, but after re-reading 'Changes', I can totally see it.
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2009/240/3/3/Thomas__Dresden_Files_by_dauntingfire.jpg)(http://97.74.93.55/images/stories/tvshows/WhiteCollar/White-Collar-Matthew-Bomer-1.JPG)

MWAHAHAHA another has been swayed to the Bomer for Thomas camp! *high five*

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(http://pics.livejournal.com/bookshop/pic/0042eaa7)

However, I found this by an artist that I think works
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs47/f/2009/254/f/a/Dresden_Files__Johnny_Marcone_by_dauntingfire.jpg)

O.O

That is inexplicably eerie. Now to find who has the most chemistry with Clooney and fits the role completely to play Beckett. Who looks like they have dead eyes in Hollywood?
**EDITED for spelling and to post photos**
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on June 22, 2010, 10:43:58 PM
I always want to strangle him every time I rewatch Pirates of the Caribbean... though it may just be because Will Turner annoys me to death.

Which may well be because he's played by Orlando Bloom. Were Will played by someone else, I'd probably like him more, and you likely would too.
So once again Orlando Bloom as Thomas? For the love of God, NO!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 23, 2010, 12:11:37 AM
I was thinking that Edward Kerr is a close match for the physical description of Marcone.

You know, I can see that too.  Right age too!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 23, 2010, 01:55:32 AM
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That is inexplicably eerie. Now to find who has the most chemistry with Clooney and fits the role completely to play Beckett. Who looks like they have dead eyes in Hollywood?
::Partially crushes urge to chirp "Everyone?"::

Because I am a sap, I want to say Julianna Margulies here. Not that I think she has dead eyes; but she could. I could see her making Helen Beckitt weirdly compelling. Also, Julianna and George? They still have crazy-making chemistry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 23, 2010, 02:01:39 AM
::Partially crushes urge to chirp "Everyone?"::

Because I am a sap, I want to Julianna Margulies here. Not that I think she has dead eyes; but she could. I could see her making Helen Beckitt weirdly compelling. Also, Julianna and George? They still have crazy-making chemistry.

Oh she would be good.  You got me thinking of another option.  Julianna Moore for Helen.
(http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/03/01-07/julianne-moore-2.jpg)
She's 49 and could have a daughter around 20.  I know that Helen may not have red hair, but I can see it personally.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 23, 2010, 02:17:26 AM
My girl Julianne IS the Leanansidhe, as far as I'm concerned. I'm pretty sure Lea is described as having red hair, too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 23, 2010, 02:30:07 AM
I agree with that assessment
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 03:23:04 AM
::Partially crushes urge to chirp "Everyone?"::

I said 'dead' eyes not 'fake' :D

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Because I am a sap, I want to say Julianna Margulies here. Not that I think she has dead eyes; but she could. I could see her making Helen Beckitt weirdly compelling. Also, Julianna and George? They still have crazy-making chemistry.

BAHAHAHA ER. Funny funny funny. I think I actually stopped watching the show around the time they both finally took off, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 03:46:31 AM
Which may well be because he's played by Orlando Bloom. Were Will played by someone else, I'd probably like him more, and you likely would too.
So once again Orlando Bloom as Thomas? For the love of God, NO!

*affects Muttley-like laughter*

.... I may have just dated myself by using that line.

This is why I'm clinging to Matt Bomer (with John Morrisson's body) as Thomas for my life :)

Uh, for the younguns (that is everyone under 25 who has no idea what the hell I'm talking about) Muttley is the villain dog of Dick Dastardly from the old Hanna-Barbera cartoons. Look up the laugh on Google, seriously. It gives me the giggles everytime.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 23, 2010, 08:21:34 AM
*affects Muttley-like laughter*]

LOL did you ever see the old (when Cartoon Network was still new) short "Wonder Woman's lasso of justice" skits?
They had one with Muttley laughing but he gets caught in the lasso and starts bawling. LOL

Sorry just made me think of it cause I don't see many references to Muttley. ;)

My fave though was when she catches Aquaman and he goes "when you see those bubbles, they aren't always... bubbles." LOL

I am so glad more people are for Bomer. I think he can pull off the darkness of Thomas and especially the whole suave confidence. He's perfect! <3
*swoons and gets the vapors*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 01:43:04 PM
@kali
Funny that you mention Tea Leoni, I kind of thought she would be a good Lea because she has that feline sort of beauty. Don't know if she could pull of the act though.



Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 01:43:50 PM
@HarryMcCoy
Orlando Bloom....NOOOOOO!!!!!! he is the worst ever. He didn't even act well as Legolas, really pay attention next time you watch LOTR and you will notice he doesn't even act well in that, it really is the action scenes and the fact that he is an elf that made him popular. One scene in particular, the scene where Aragorn explains for about 10 minutes that they need to distract the eye so that Frodo can sneak by or whatever, anyhow after all that Legolas has an epiphany and says "a diversion!", it's like duh, that's what we have been talking about for ten minutes stupid elf. Granted Bloom didn't write the dialogue but he sure delivered like an idiot.

Cilian Murphy...... I love this actor. 28 days later ruled! (28 weeks later sucked, lucky Danny Boyle is coming back for 28 months later) as Madrigal Raith FTW.

Wilford Brimley as Eb. Yeah he is kind of how I picture Eb, but I have said this before, Brimley is on his last leg, in reality if they made a film now, he couldn't do it, his health is too poor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 01:46:17 PM
@Warden Jon Marcone
Geoffry Rush for Morgan, have to vote no on this, there were at least five better choices for Morgan, however I could see Rush as someone like Nic or the Merlin, but he is too old to play Nic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 01:50:29 PM
@Thaumologist
Lee-Ann Liebenberg as Lash. I don't know if she can act, but she is smokin' hot, that's a win for me.  ;D
Seriously though, I don't think she should be Lash but definitely a Vampire, white or red court, maybe Bianca.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 01:52:01 PM
@Atanvarno
Olivia Williams as Lash, I could get behind that choice.

Gordon Tootoosis as LTW, good choice, but I think Wes Studi would also be a great LTW.

Julianne Moore for Lea... I dunno, she has the red hair and all. I say 75% fit cause I don't think she could completely pull off the attitude.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 01:58:53 PM
LOL did you ever see the old (when Cartoon Network was still new) short "Wonder Woman's lasso of justice" skits?
They had one with Muttley laughing but he gets caught in the lasso and starts bawling. LOL

Sorry just made me think of it cause I don't see many references to Muttley. ;)

\O/ w00t! Score one for me!! Hah :D

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I am so glad more people are for Bomer. I think he can pull off the darkness of Thomas and especially the whole suave confidence. He's perfect! <3
*swoons and gets the vapors*


I follow the Twitter feed started by Priscellie and the others (as the Dresden cast), and I had no idea who the man was that they used for the profile pic for Thomas. And then I saw him on TV, and a lightbulb clicked on. So really, I owe my devotion to Bomer and his future casting as Thomas to the mods and everyone on the Dresden Twitter feeds :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 02:03:02 PM
Other choices for Eb. Rip Torn and Tommy Lee Jones. Didn't like the idea of Jones at first but then I thought about it and it would work.
(http://doc-0o-as-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/iu46pndmql8brd6k7c2a7uj1vjo5nqf0/1277294400000/05835411182615825942/*/0B8NfYpeXR_TAYjQ1YWM2MmItMjFhMC00ZjY2LWFkNzAtMDU5MTkxMTJiMzg5)  (http://www.nikohk.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/tommy-lee-jones-cannes-2005-nicolas-guerin.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 02:16:07 PM
You all are starting to win me over with the Matt Bomer thing, but it's actually not that I like Bomer, but it's because all the other suggestions for Thomas are soo bad (Orlando Bloom *sheesh*) that Bomer is starting to look better and better as Thomas.

No one commented on my suggestion the other day of Chris Pine as Thomas.
(http://backseatcuddler.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/chris-pine-outtakes.jpg)(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/12/28/chris_pine_2.jpg)
I am not sure about this choice though, I think he is a pretty good actor judging by Star Trek, I don't know if he really fits the bill, but he seems to be more like the other choices up here.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Coalprin on June 23, 2010, 02:51:33 PM
Pine isn't bad... but Bomer is better, for the role of Thomas at least. He's been on a few of the TV shows that I watch and I'd say he definitely has the range/looks to pull off everybody's favorite incubus.

Chris Pine can act well enough, but he is kinda lacking that Raith look.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 03:04:39 PM
Pine isn't bad... but Bomer is better, for the role of Thomas at least. He's been on a few of the TV shows that I watch and I'd say he definitely has the range/looks to pull off everybody's favorite incubus.

Chris Pine can act well enough, but he is kinda lacking that Raith look.

I agree that Pine doesn't look Raithy enough.

Personally, when they first introduced Thomas I pictured something like this.
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/2561/ian3vz7.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 03:06:31 PM
and I stumbled on this too.
(http://nectarfizz.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/jackman-11.jpg)
Never thought of this, but Jackman could probably work as Thomas...

..on second thought he is too old, he is 42ish and this picture is old.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 23, 2010, 03:30:44 PM
Chris Pine may not be good for Raith, but can we cast him as Warden Chandler just so we can look at him?  *cough* Oh. Yeah.  I said that aloud. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 23, 2010, 03:32:24 PM
How about Evans for Thomas. He is Bowflexy too.
(http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/chris-evans-tom-ford-suit-01.jpg) (http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2007/08/tom-ford-evans/chris-evans-tom-ford-suit-05.jpg)
Still not Raithy enough? I don't really get the Predatory Angel vibe from Evans.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 04:32:22 PM

I am not sure about this choice though, I think he is a pretty good actor judging by Star Trek, I don't know if he really fits the bill, but he seems to be more like the other choices up here.

Chris Pine is handsome enough to pull off the Thomas role, but he's just not it for me. His eyes don't have that same 'mysteriousness' to them that Bomer's do.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 04:37:35 PM
and I stumbled on this too.

Never thought of this, but Jackman could probably work as Thomas...

..on second thought he is too old, he is 42ish and this picture is old.


Don't knock on people being too old for certain roles. There's a reason that most casting these days has people that are actually ten years older playing roles that are ten years younger. Every once in a while, though, you have the cases like Supernatural, where the actors are the same age as their characters, lol.

Anyway, I've been reading this Supernatural/Dresden Files crossover fic that a friend turned me on to, and she's made an icon specifically for the fic (it's on LJ); The fic is called Lost Sons (http://phoenixknght86.livejournal.com/37537.html), and the actor she sees as Harry is actually Hugh Jackman. The picture that she specifically used fits really well, actually.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 04:46:13 PM
Chris Pine may not be good for Raith, but can we cast him as Warden Chandler just so we can look at him?  *cough* Oh. Yeah.  I said that aloud. :)

Yes you did, and yes we can. Besides, I know damn sure he can effect a British accent -- he had one when he played Nicholas in The Princess Diaries 2. (consequently, he sounds just as snooty as Chandler might in the clip that I saw of himself and Anne Hathaway taking a fall into the fountain behind them).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 23, 2010, 05:01:55 PM
Moore's a great actress, full stop. She could do whatever the part requires, I have no doubt.

I also agree that Matt Bomer could do Thomas justice - not only the confidence and charm, but Thomas's conflicted nature, his self-distrust, anger and shame, as well as love for Justine. (I don't think Chris Evans is as strong an actor as Bomer, really. Nothing against the guy, but he's limited to a certain type - at least in the roles I've seen.) If it were up to me (and clearly it's not) I'd just as soon stay away from any wrestlers or swimsuit models altogether.

Pine is okay, I guess; I'm sure there are actual Brits who could play "Steed" Chandler perfectly well.
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Every once in a while, though, you have the cases like Supernatural, where the actors are the same age as their characters, lol.
Except for Jeffrey Dean Morgan, who played a character exactly ten years older than his real age. (Yes, I watched the first few seasons of the show that carefully.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on June 23, 2010, 05:37:31 PM
How about Ian Somerhalder for Thomas?

(http://www.collectormania.com/imagegallery/C10images/IanSomerhalder2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 23, 2010, 05:48:46 PM
Pine is okay, I guess; I'm sure there are actual Brits who could play "Steed" Chandler perfectly well. )


Yeah, you are right... I have a not-so-secret crush on James McAvoy.  Can he play Warden Chandler?
(http://saraineilan.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/james_mcavoy_120307_01.jpg)(http://img.listal.com/image/717037/500full.jpg)

Okay, he's Scottish (31, 5'7).  Okay, maybe a little short, but he's a HUGE sci-fi/fantasy fan!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 23, 2010, 06:30:48 PM
Also, McAvoy can act like nobody's business! He's a Scot, but has played a few Englishmen (and a couple of Irishmen, too, I think.)

Somerhalder has some experience with playing a vampire; I see him more as Madrigal than Thomas, I guess.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 23, 2010, 06:54:32 PM
@Warden Jon Marcone
Geoffry Rush for Morgan, have to vote no on this, there were at least five better choices for Morgan,

laiek who out of curiosity?  And better how?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Coalprin on June 23, 2010, 06:55:55 PM
McAvoy as Steed? *thumbs up*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 10:34:42 PM
Yeah, you are right... I have a not-so-secret crush on James McAvoy.  Can he play Warden Chandler?
(http://saraineilan.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/james_mcavoy_120307_01.jpg)(http://img.listal.com/image/717037/500full.jpg)

Okay, he's Scottish (31, 5'7).  Okay, maybe a little short, but he's a HUGE sci-fi/fantasy fan!

That works! He's got a bit of a talent with accents, anyway. He had an American accent for his role in Wanted with Angelina Jolie. And do we know exactly how tall Steed is, anyway?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 10:36:33 PM
How about Ian Somerhalder for Thomas?

(http://www.collectormania.com/imagegallery/C10images/IanSomerhalder2.jpg)

He actually came up in a facial recognition with Matt Bomer that I did a few posts ago. The face recognition said he only resembled Bomer a LITTLE, but then again, it said that Josh Holloway resembled Bomer a LOT. Anyway, I pitched the idea of Somerhalder as Harry, but sadly, there was no response :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 23, 2010, 10:42:33 PM

Except for Jeffrey Dean Morgan, who played a character exactly ten years older than his real age. (Yes, I watched the first few seasons of the show that carefully.)


Which I personally think is funny as hell. The fact that in real life JDM is only a handful of years older than the boys who play his sons? Hilarious. There were jokes from the set that had Jensen and Jared texting JDM just to tease him and call him 'Daddy,' even though he's only 44, and Jensen is only 32. Well. Now they are, I mean. Twelve years is NOT that big an age difference, lol.

And yes, I watch the show religiously, too. I'm not an addict. I'm not. I'm not I'm not I'm not.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 24, 2010, 01:51:10 AM
Well, of course you're not. :D

Now that I think about it, why isn't JDM on our list somewhere? I could see him as Kincaid, except I seem to remember a passing reference to Kincaid's having blond hair (don't I? And does it matter?)

For that matter, why didn't I think of Harry Dean Stanton for Morgan? Where is my head at?!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 01:27:20 PM
James McAvoy as Steed FTW!

I have been trying to think of where McAvoy would fit in, that's perfect!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 01:39:32 PM
@Warden Jon Marcone
Geoffry Rush for Morgan, have to vote no on this, there were at least five better choices for Morgan, however I could see Rush as someone like Nic or the Merlin, but he is too old to play Nic.
laiek who out of curiosity?  And better how?

I don't deny that Rush is an amazing actor and could pull of the attitude, I just don't think he is the best choice.

Better.... ok better was a poor choice of words. And five better choices may have been an exageration.

I think Stephen Lang would fit the bill a little better.
(http://www.silverfeast.com/wp-content/uploads/stephen_lang.jpg)

And Jason Statham.
(http://www.kingtartous.com/king2/images/jason_statham.jpg)

But I concede Rush would probably be my third choice for Morgan.
He was great as Captain Barbossa.
(http://www.wowowow.com/files/imagecache/300x/kristinfritz/2009_0520_wiki_geoffrey_rush.jpg)

Someone also suggested Alan Rickman, but I just don't think he is firey enough.
And ofcourse there were some other suggestions, but I can't recall who.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 24, 2010, 01:55:26 PM
I think Morgan is a tough one... I like everyone's picks too.  I thought Rade Serbedzija (63) would be a good choice.  (He was Boris the Blade in "Snatch".  He is also going to be Gregorovitch in the new Harry Potter movies.)
(http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/actores/rade_serbedzija/fotos/4505/rade_serbedzija.jpg)(http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13923/81576388.jpg)

Jason Statham (37)... purrr... I will watch anything he is in... I usually see him as Kincaid
(http://www.completemartialarts.com/whoswho/actionstars/images/jasonstatham.jpg)(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/galleries/chests/jason-statham.jpg)

Or Charlie Hunnam as Kincaid.  But he only 30. That I think is a little young.
(http://scifiwire.com/assets_c/2009/04/SonsofAnarchy_CharlieHunnam-thumb-550x373-16758.jpg)

Both are British actors.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 02:04:12 PM
Jason Statham (37)... purrr... I will watch anything he is in... I usually see him as Kincaid

Jason Statham was my original choice for Kincaid, but there was the whole blonde hair ponytail debaucle, so I went with Alexander Skarsgard as my Kincaid.

If I were to make the movie, I would probably keep Statham as Kincaid, and just take liberties with the whole ponytail thing, I don't think it's that important really.

But I would keep Skarsgard in there somewhere. Maybe Donnar Vaderung, even though ASkars looks a little young for it, they could age him up a little, and besides that Vaderung is a demi-god so he should look youngish anyhow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 24, 2010, 02:12:02 PM
Well, of course you're not. :D

I'm not, dammit! ;D

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Now that I think about it, why isn't JDM on our list somewhere? I could see him as Kincaid, except I seem to remember a passing reference to Kincaid's having blond hair (don't I? And does it matter?)

Kincaid does have 'golden blonde' hair that he tends to wear in a ponytail... Which is personally why I think that Josh Holloway would fit the bill for Kincaid's look at the very least... whether or not he can actually pull of Possibly-Homicidal-Yet-Very-Caring-Papa-Looney-Mercernary is another matter entirely. And JDM hasn't made the list yet because I can't quite figure out where I want him, lol. Maybe we can pull some strings and get him cast as the Erl King... of course, then James Marsters might be jealous, because it seems he likes to play freaky, creepy villain roles, lol.

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For that matter, why didn't I think of Harry Dean Stanton for Morgan? Where is my head at?!

Ehhhhh.... I don't really see Morgan as being that thin. His comic book image kinda set the bar for me for how I want Morgan to look. You know. This scary looking dude?

(http://jim-butcher.com/pics/dabelSF02005.jpg)

Honestly, the comic pretty much set the bar for how I want everyone to look. But I can kind of see Michael Bowen as the Morgan type:
(http://thefaust.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/michaelbowen.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 24, 2010, 02:15:47 PM
Jason Statham was my original choice for Kincaid, but there was the whole blonde hair ponytail debaucle, so I went with Alexander Skarsgard as my Kincaid.


Yeah, Alexander Skarsgard...I can get on board with that casting too... granted, I could watch him read the dictionary... I still like Statham for it.
(http://www.culch.ie/images/AlexanderSkarsgard001.jpg)(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9ClYtKAV7yA/SrnIB2R4sKI/AAAAAAAABvg/4IobaDJSUlo/s400/Alexander+Skarsgard+1.jpg)

(OFF TOPIC:  He's Swedish, why was he not considered for "Thor." I hate when Hollywood does that, don't get me started on the "Last Airbender.")
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 02:20:02 PM
I saw Michael Bowen suggested a long time ago as Morgan, but I can't get pass the fact that the first time I ever saw Bowen was in Kill Bill as Buck.

"My name is Buck, and I came here to...."

I don't think I can take Bowen seriously as Morgan because I have that image of him as a nurse in my head.
(http://www.xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/skina/killbill/buck.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 02:24:18 PM
Yeah, Alexander Skarsgard...I can get on board with that casting too... granted, I could watch him read the dictionary... I still like Statham for it.

(OFF TOPIC:  He's Swedish, why was he not considered for "Thor." I hate when Hollywood does that, don't get me started on the "Last Airbender.")

That's what I been screaming.... kind of, he actually was considered for Thor.

April 20, 2009 Last month, news broke that Thor director Kenneth Branagh was seen meeting with True Blood actor, Alexander Skarsgård. This sparked rumors that the 6’4” son of veteran actor Stellan Skarsgård was in the running to wield the Mighty hammer, Mjolnir.

Not sure why it didn't work out, it's possible he is too busy with True Blood or something, or maybe they just wanted a fresh face for Thor, or cheaper actor.

I can't believe they went with the guy who was in Star Trek for two minutes.

I think Branagh passed on ASkars. ASkars sounded like he would have done it.

What's more is ASkars dad Stellan is in the Thor movie.

edit: Marvel Studio's should have chosen ASkars and passed on Branagh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 24, 2010, 02:43:33 PM
That's what I been screaming.... kind of, he actually was considered for Thor.

April 20, 2009 Last month, news broke that Thor director Kenneth Branagh was seen meeting with True Blood actor, Alexander Skarsgård. This sparked rumors that the 6’4” son of veteran actor Stellan Skarsgård was in the running to wield the Mighty hammer, Mjolnir.

Not sure why it didn't work out, it's possible he is too busy with True Blood or something, or maybe they just wanted a fresh face for Thor, or cheaper actor.

I can't believe they went with the guy who was in Star Trek for two minutes.

I think Branagh passed on ASkars. ASkars sounded like he would have done it.

What's more is ASkars dad Stellan is in the Thor movie.

Well, I'm glad he was at least considered.  I think you are right about being busy or maybe he had a bad reading.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 02:45:28 PM
Anyways back to a regularly scheduled program.

Susan Rodriguez? I know she is suppose to be latin american, but I think Kate Beckinsale would be a good Susan. Mostly because I can picture her as the main love interest.

Sure there are a lot of latin american actresses but none I can picture as Harry Dresdens significant other.

e.g. Eva Longoria, Penelope Cruz, Salma Hayek, etc.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 24, 2010, 02:49:47 PM
Okay how about Stellan Skarsgard as Donnar Vaderung (Odin)?
(http://whatsthestureplan.blogg.se/images/stellan_1186155978.jpg)

Susan Rodriguez is Erica Cerra.  Jim Butcher says so, so I have to agree.
(http://scifiwire.com/assets_c/2009/09/EricaCerraEureka-thumb-550x351-23383.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 03:01:57 PM
Okay how about Stellan Skarsgard as Donnar Vaderung (Odin)?

FTW! I was thinking that too.

Do you know who is playing Odin in the Thor movie? (I digress again, sorry)

I won't say in case you all want to be suprised if or when you watch Thor, but if you want to know here it is (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800369/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 03:04:53 PM
Susan Rodriguez is Erica Cerra.  Jim Butcher says so, so I have to agree.

I liked her in Eureka. Though I don't know how she would do on the silver screen. TV is a little different and I haven't seen Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief because that movie looks stupid.

(http://i.newsarama.com/images/Erica-Cerra-1_02.jpg)
More Susan like image.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Efialtis on June 24, 2010, 04:09:50 PM
After watching some of the great special effects in the "up and coming" movie, Sorcerer's Apprentice, I couldn't help but think..."THEY NEED TO MAKE A DRESDEN FILES MOVIE"...
I know the TV Series didn't go over very well, mostly because, imnsho, it didn't follow the books very well...
But look at James Bond, those movies have gone on forever...and most are still pretty good...
So we could have a 1:1 ratio with movies to books...

Are there any rumors or feelers out there for doing this?

Another book series that could be fantastic as a movie (or series of movies) would be "Thieves World"...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 24, 2010, 04:17:01 PM
After watching some of the great special effects in the "up and coming" movie, Sorcerer's Apprentice, I couldn't help but think..."THEY NEED TO MAKE A DRESDEN FILES MOVIE"...
I know the TV Series didn't go over very well, mostly because, imnsho, it didn't follow the books very well...
But look at James Bond, those movies have gone on forever...and most are still pretty good...
So we could have a 1:1 ratio with movies to books...

Are there any rumors or feelers out there for doing this?

Another book series that could be fantastic as a movie (or series of movies) would be "Thieves World"...

Officially? Not til Jim gets back the licensing from Lions Gate :( Of course, Lions Gate could always choose to do a movie on it, but given that they've done nothing with it since April of '07, it's not looking likely.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
Officially? Not til Jim gets back the licensing from Lions Gate :( Of course, Lions Gate could always choose to do a movie on it, but given that they've done nothing with it since April of '07, it's not looking likely.

I never really paid much attention to Studios, usually I just look at the director, but even then some of my favorite directors disappoint me from time to time.

Anyhow I was looking at all the Lion's Gate movies and realize there are very very few I like. Even the good movies they are involved with a sort of shadowed by the bad ones. For example, this year they did Kick-Ass (awesome movie) but they also did Daybreakers, The Spy Next Door, From Paris with Love, Why Did I Get Married Too?, and Killers. Daybreakers I had hope for but turned out pretty lame.

So with that said what studio would you cast to make a Dresden Files movie?

Walt Disney Pictures, Paramount Pictures, Warner Bros., Sony Pictures, NBC/Universal Pictures, DreamWorks Pictures, New Line Cinema, MGM, Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, Columbia Pictures, TriStar Pictures, Focus Features, Miramax Films, Warner Independent Pictures, Paramount Classics, Paramount Vantage, Fine Line Features, United Artists, Picturehouse, Lakeshore Entertainment, Heyday Films, etc.

Think about it like this, Heyday makes Harry Potter, and Lakeshore made Underworld. Universal pioneered movie monsters and make-up, etc.

Then again some really great movies don't even really have a major studio behind them, like Desperado, it was distributed by Columbia Pictures (naturally) but not really a studio involved in the making of. Of course Robert Rodriguez has formed Troublemaker Studios since then.

Another example is The Fifth Element. No major studio behind this either.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on June 24, 2010, 06:15:50 PM
Anyhow I was looking at all the Lion's Gate movies and realize there are very very few I like. Even the good movies they are involved with a sort of shadowed by the bad ones. For example, this year they did Kick-Ass (awesome movie)
They did not even make Kick-Ass it was financed independently by the director.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 07:01:38 PM
They did not even make Kick-Ass it was financed independently by the director.

Your right, seems like the just distributed it, it came up on Lion's Gate list of movies.
So has Lions Gate anything noteable or significant? I guess not.
I can't wait til the movie rights go back to Jim so that a good studio or director could pick it up.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 07:13:18 PM
While we are on the subject of Kick-Ass, I think Chloe Moretz (Hit-Girl) should play Ivy.

Funny on IMDB her character is listed number 21 on the cast list. It should be listed at least 3rd, aren't they suppose to be listed by significance?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 24, 2010, 07:35:52 PM
I never really paid much attention to Studios, usually I just look at the director, but even then some of my favorite directors disappoint me from time to time.



My point being that Jim has no creativity rights to any movies that Lions Gate may produce, given that the movie license will not revert back to Jim for another... two years and two-hundred-and-ninety-three days.

Seriously. Go watch this vid taken during one of his Q&A/Signings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nxHxfB_ElU

(and yes, that is the exact math, lol. I really had nothing better to do.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 24, 2010, 07:42:09 PM
Okay how about Stellan Skarsgard as Donnar Vaderung (Odin)?
(http://whatsthestureplan.blogg.se/images/stellan_1186155978.jpg)


I can see that.  And I always saw Morgan as kind of like Barbossa in a suit as a good guy.  Maybe a little skinnier.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 24, 2010, 07:47:42 PM
I can see that.  And I always saw Morgan as kind of like Barbossa in a suit as a good guy.  Maybe a little skinnier.

Huh? Barbossa was played by Geoffrey Rush, and Skarsgard played the squidhead... uh, what'shisname, Davy Jones. Am I missing something?

Never mind, I had such a moment of stupid just then... *sigh*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 24, 2010, 07:53:52 PM
don't worry, it's just a blonde moment.  It will pass.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 24, 2010, 08:02:36 PM
Yeah, Chloe Moretz would rock!
(http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/lc/the_power_of_youth_2_090809/chloe_moretz_2534264.jpg)

I also like Morgan Lily for Ivy. (She was in 2012.)
(http://image.xyface.com/image/m/artist-morgan-lily/morgan-lily-34017.jpg)

For Carlos Ramirez, I was thinking Jay Hernandez. I remember him from "Crazy/Beautiful" and when I started reading the books his look popped in my head.  He is also Mexician-American and 5'8.  Although, he's 31 - so he may be already too old since he should be around 25.  Although, there are plenty of good looking Latin actors.
(http://img.atpictures.com/images2/jayhernandez/JayHernandez_Vespa_8195097.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 08:18:26 PM
So after thinking I have come up with the perfect cast.

Harry - Will Smith (http://authorjuliejames.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/will1.jpg)
Thomas - Tyrese Gibson (http://rmusicb.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/tyrese-gibson-11.jpg)
Morgan - Taye Diggs (http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l458/glvalentine/questionabletaste/equilibrium/EquilibriumStill0044-BrandtTayeDigg.jpg)
Kincaid - Wesley Snipes  (http://planb.episerverhotell.net/PageFiles/8399/wesley_snipes_08.jpg)
Michael - Forest Whitaker (http://static.ulike.net/img/01_Ghost_Dog:_The_Way_of_the_Samurai.jpg)
Marcone - Denzel Washington (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/denzel_washington1_300_400.jpg)
Ebenezar - Morgan Freeman (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/244freemanmorgan092806.jpg)
Nicodemus - Samuel L Jackson (http://nycsveryown.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/samuel_l_jackson.jpg)
Carlos - Don Cheadle (http://www.etoday.ru/uploads/2008/02/10/don_cheadle.jpg)
The Merlin - Danny Glover (http://www.salsamania.it/news/farandula%20mia/dic07/danny%20glover.jpg)
Rashid - Laurence Fishburne (http://davidpelliott.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/matrix-morpheus_l1.jpg)
Injun Joe - Carl Weathers (http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/espy_awards_arrivals_5_120707/espy_awards_19_wenn1450311.jpg)
Waldo Butters - Chris Rock (http://data.yule.sohu.com/star/pic/star/3/3396/default.jpg)
Don Ortega - Jamie Foxx (http://hitmusicacademy.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/jamie-foxx.jpg)
Hendricks - Michael Clarke Duncan (http://www.thesharkbook.com/blog/uploaded_images/michael-clarke-duncan-729267.png)
Sanya - Topher Grace (http://www.bgawebsites.org/computerclass/2005-06/mollysaint/topher.jpg)

Susan - Sanaa Lathan (http://dafiffloor.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/sanaa-lathan-560.jpg)
Murphy - Halle Berry (http://www.twitterglitter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/1270975931.jpg)
Lea - Tyra Banks (http://traceyricksfoster.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/tyra-banks-gl10.jpg)
Mab - Angela Bassett (http://images.askmen.com/photos/angela-bassett/63837.jpg)
Charity - Vivica Fox (http://hiphopspy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/vivica-fox-4.jpg)
Luccio - Gabrielle Union (http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/05/04/2009-hot-100-100-91/71-Gabrielle_Union_Hot100_l.jpg)
Lara - Zoe Saldana (http://tbreak.com/rex/files/uploads/Zoe-Salda%C3%B1a41.jpg)
Molly - Alicia Keys (http://healmenow.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/alicia-keys.jpg)

Don't be racist, it's the perfect cast!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 24, 2010, 08:21:57 PM
For Carlos Ramirez, I was thinking Jay Hernandez. I remember him from "Crazy/Beautiful" and when I started reading the books his look popped in my head.  He is also Mexician-American and 5'8.  Although, he's 31 - so he may be already too old since he should be around 25.  Although, there are plenty of good looking Latin actors.

Jay Hernandez. Has the look I imagined too.

But my choice was Freddy Rodriguez because he was bad a$$ in Planet Terror.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 24, 2010, 09:56:14 PM
don't worry, it's just a blonde moment.  It will pass.

Quite a feat for me, considering I'm not even blonde, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 24, 2010, 10:50:59 PM
Chris Rock for BUTTERS, Mo?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 25, 2010, 12:49:19 AM
Well, no wonder wizardkind thinks the White Court sucks, then.  ;D

Still laughing at the idea of Topher ("I'M tiny, but fierce") Grace as Sanyashka...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: PhoenixKnght86 on June 25, 2010, 02:06:57 AM
Don't knock on people being too old for certain roles. There's a reason that most casting these days has people that are actually ten years older playing roles that are ten years younger. Every once in a while, though, you have the cases like Supernatural, where the actors are the same age as their characters, lol.

Anyway, I've been reading this Supernatural/Dresden Files crossover fic that a friend turned me on to, and she's made an icon specifically for the fic (it's on LJ); The fic is called Lost Sons (http://phoenixknght86.livejournal.com/37537.html), and the actor she sees as Harry is actually Hugh Jackman. The picture that she specifically used fits really well, actually.

I actually used this thread to make the Dresden dream cast for Lost Sons. Hugh Jackman didn't have an contenders for Harry's place. But finding a picture of him was a pain in the neck. I also have many other characters casted and with pictures, I just haven't posted their images.

And thanks for reading my story! :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 25, 2010, 02:10:42 AM
Oh, back to Sanya.  I can't believe I totally forgot about my man Christopher Judge.  Okay, he may be too old for the part now, but he is a beast 6'3.  I think my waist is as big as his arms!  

(http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/rsz/434/x/x/x/medias/nmedia/18/35/64/22/18437117.jpg)(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e141/bobrulz600/Tealc.jpg)


I love Jason Momoa too. (He has been recently cast as Conan!) He is the right age (30, 6'4!!!) but sadly he is Hawaiian not African-American.  But I'm going to post his picture for the my ladies here... just 'cause...
(http://liveforfilms.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jasonmomoasgadude.jpg)(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/chocolatediva30/JMomoa.jpg)

....ahhhh, wait, what was I doing?

Oh right,... also, I have to say... Sanaa Lathan for Lucio 2.0 in her new body.  Who says she has to be a white girl?  (38, 5'7)  Okay, Lucio is suppose to look around 27ish being a grad student in all, but Sanaa's look is pretty adorablel!
(http://fileserver.glam.com/glampress/beauty/slideshows/redhaute/Sanaa-Lathan.jpg)(http://sweetandtalented.com/images/lathan/lathan14.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 25, 2010, 02:39:11 AM
I actually used this thread to make the Dresden dream cast for Lost Sons. Hugh Jackman didn't have an contenders for Harry's place. But finding a picture of him was a pain in the neck. I also have many other characters casted and with pictures, I just haven't posted their images.

And thanks for reading my story! :)

LOL, hah! That's nifty! And I love your story, it stays really true to both fandoms! Hopefully this crazy long thread is helping you with ideas on other cast members :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Nero on June 25, 2010, 04:07:37 AM
OK. What about Jared Leto as Thomas? Has anyone posted this before now?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cass on June 25, 2010, 05:03:56 AM
Oh right,... also, I have to say... Sanaa Lathan for Lucio 2.0.  Who says she has to be a white girl?  (38, 5'7)  Okay, Lucio is suppose to look around 27ish, but Sanaa's look is pretty adorablel!

She's 19th century Italian.
It's...unlikely in the extreme that her original body was African.
(Although, I grant you, still possible, even if it's likely that harry would have commented about it.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 25, 2010, 12:41:38 PM
She's 19th century Italian.
It's...unlikely in the extreme that her original body was African.
(Although, I grant you, still possible, even if it's likely that harry would have commented about it.)


I was thinking AFTER her body was taken by the Corpsetaker.  Lucio's new body is supposed to be a graduate student with dark curls and dimples.  (Okay, Sanaa doesn't really have dimples.)  I was just thinking of it after MoSeS cast that maybe Luccio's 2nd body could be African-American.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 25, 2010, 02:26:51 PM
OK. What about Jared Leto as Thomas? Has anyone posted this before now?

That actually did cross my mind, but I don't think it's been suggested yet.

He was good in Fight Club and Requiem for a Dream.

And his band 30 Seconds to Mars is pretty good.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 25, 2010, 02:35:51 PM
OK. What about Jared Leto as Thomas? Has anyone posted this before now?

Oh, good call!  He's a good actor too.

(http://dailymishmash.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/jared-hot.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 25, 2010, 02:41:57 PM
I was thinking AFTER her body was taken by the Corpsetaker.  Lucio's new body is supposed to be a graduate student with dark curls and dimples.  (Okay, Sanaa doesn't really have dimples.)  I was just thinking of it after MoSeS cast that maybe Luccio's 2nd body could be African-American.

I actually do think Denzel Washington could pull off Marcone. But I am not the first to suggest something like this, someone else earlier said Michael Clarke Duncan because he was Kingpin in Daredevil.

Luccio 2.0 has dark curls? I thought she was blonde?

Not that it matters, I think in a movie some liberties should be taken as long as the actor has the attitude of the character.

What was wrong with Gabrielle Union as Luccio 2.0? j/k

also Laurence Fishburne or Michael Clarke Duncan as McAnally instead

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 25, 2010, 03:46:53 PM
Quote
Luccio 2.0 has dark curls? I thought she was blonde?
Pretty sure there are descriptions of Ana's curls being dark, or possibly auburn.

Gina Holden comes close to the actress I've been thinking of, but not quite.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: stitchy1503 on June 26, 2010, 03:57:47 PM
I actually do think Denzel Washington could pull off Marcone. But I am not the first to suggest something like this, someone else earlier said Michael Clarke Duncan because he was Kingpin in Daredevil.


i'm not entirely sure that either of those pull off the fatherly coach look. I did have someone in mind but i cant for the life of me remember his name heh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on June 26, 2010, 06:48:45 PM
I reckon colin farrell could pull off marcone. He's five ten, so i dunno about pulling off any size (i can't remember if we have a quote on marcone's size), but he is fantastic as an actor, and really does make you believe.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 26, 2010, 06:58:05 PM
Wow - oh, no. I could not disagree more - I don't think Colin Farrell is right for Marcone at all. Too young, too smirky, too self-adoring. Ucch. He was one of the worst things about Daredevil - which was a fairly awful movie all around.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 26, 2010, 09:20:32 PM
Richard Gere as Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 27, 2010, 05:11:28 AM
I was thinking one of these two if not both could work out in a role but not sure which.

Nigel Bennet:
http://www.blackhatstation.com/PsiFactor/Central/wounds10.jpg

He played Lacroix in Forever Knight, has been in various shows as a side character or main character including Psi Factor and I think maybe X-Files.

Or even this guy:

Colin Fox:
http://www.andrewkwanartists.com/Artists/Fox/Text/assets/Colin_Fox_1.jpg

This guy has been in various shows as minor and main characters. Only thought of him when I decided to check out the new CN show (don't bother to watch, it sucks) "Unnatural History." Horrible Horrible show but the actor is good if he'd been the main guy and not the stupid kids. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 27, 2010, 05:51:47 AM

Colin Fox:
http://www.andrewkwanartists.com/Artists/Fox/Text/assets/Colin_Fox_1.jpg

This guy has been in various shows as minor and main characters. Only thought of him when I decided to check out the new CN show (don't bother to watch, it sucks) "Unnatural History." Horrible Horrible show but the actor is good if he'd been the main guy and not the stupid kids. :P

Huh. I've never seen this guy before, but looking at his picture, I thought, if he could put on a few more pounds, and grow a longer beard, that could be Eb!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 27, 2010, 06:36:07 AM
Lily?:
(http://static.cinemagia.ro/img/resize/db/actor/12/38/53/alexandra-stamler-413189l-175x0-wtm-7bfa313f.jpg)
(http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2008_Role_Models/008RMD_Alexandra_Stamler_001.jpg)

Alexandra Stamler/ Allie Stamler. saw her in Role Model on hbo, just randomly thought of her as really. maybe it's just her costume in the movie. >>

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on June 27, 2010, 06:45:37 AM
I was thinking one of these two if not both could work out in a role but not sure which.

Nigel Bennet:
http://www.blackhatstation.com/PsiFactor/Central/wounds10.jpg

He played Lacroix in Forever Knight, has been in various shows as a side character or main character including Psi Factor and I think maybe X-Files.
My favorite role from him was Prince  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isambard_Prince) in Lexx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexx). From the roles I remember most for him, I could see him pulling off Nicodemus, Can't really see him as anything not dark/evil
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sssarahdove on June 27, 2010, 06:54:35 AM
I always imagine flamboyant!overthetop!ghey Thomas as Russell Brand... any other time I don't really have a clear picture of him...
okay, so i wasnt the only person that thought of thomas upon seeing russell <3

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 27, 2010, 01:58:53 PM
I reckon colin farrell could pull off marcone. He's five ten, so i dunno about pulling off any size (i can't remember if we have a quote on marcone's size), but he is fantastic as an actor, and really does make you believe.

Have to disagree, Colin Farrell for Marcone is almost as bad as the suggestion of Orlando Bloom as Thomas. I really don't like either of these actors. That's why Colin Farrell played the last incarnation in The Imaginarium of Dr Parnassus, the one that get's
(click to show/hide)
.

I think Adrian Pasdar (from Heroes) would make a pretty good Marcone.
(http://www.coffeedrunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/0000035203_20061021061612.jpg)

I also liked the Ray Wise suggestion.
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/16882/Ray%20Wise.jpg)

Although these two are very different ages.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 27, 2010, 08:30:16 PM
I think Adrian Pasdar (from Heroes) would make a pretty good Marcone.
(http://www.coffeedrunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/0000035203_20061021061612.jpg)

Adrian makes a very convincing, somewhat terrifying Marcone just from the look on his face, lol. He's more how I imagine Marcone would be if he was the typical mob gangster style dude.

Quote
I also liked the Ray Wise suggestion.
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/16882/Ray%20Wise.jpg)

Although these two are very different ages.

I abide by Ray Wise for the role, just because he DOES look like a fatherly football coach. His eyes (though they look more blue-grey than 'green the color of worn dollar bills') have the sort of look to them that says that he can be a kind man, but can also be capable of horrific things. Maybe he's a little older than most would like for Marcone, particularly if you're imagining gun fights at the back of a compound against fifteen wolves, but for me, he's it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 27, 2010, 08:34:07 PM
It just occurred to me upon rereading the description of Murph's little sister Lisa that, whenever we collectively agree on the absolute, most awesome actress that's warrior princess-y enough to play Karrin, we need to find someone that looks enough like her that's more estrogen princess-y to play Lisa.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 28, 2010, 02:20:24 AM
Mental image for Ramirez:
(http://www.nvouspc.com/adminsite/attach/Enrique_Murciano_ppal.jpg)
Enrique Murciano.

too old, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 28, 2010, 04:18:42 AM
Huh. I've never seen this guy before, but looking at his picture, I thought, if he could put on a few more pounds, and grow a longer beard, that could be Eb!

He played an Eb-bish character on Unnatural History.
he usually plays villains or suspicious types.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 28, 2010, 05:02:16 PM
This one isn't as good as my last cast because most people won't know many of these.

Harry - Tony Leung (http://orientalis.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/tonyleung2.jpg)
Thomas - Takeshi Kaneshiro (http://iselldreams.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/takeshi_kaneshiro_01.jpg)
Morgan - Tak Sakaguchi (http://www.behindthehype.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Death-Trance-photo-02.jpg)
Kincaid - Tony Jaa (http://katsublog.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/tonyjaa18_400.jpg)
Michael - Jackie Chan (http://seasweetie.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/jackie-chan-20070701-277666.jpg)
Marcone - Andy Lau (http://www.123people.net/l/lau-andy/lau-andy1.jpg)
Ebenezar - Chow Yun-Fat (http://www.earthsmightiest.com/images/news/moviestv/Chow%20Yun%20Fat%20in%20Dragonball.jpg)
Nicodemus - Min-sik Choi (http://www.unbsj.ca/arts/english/jones/mt/images/choi-min-sik.jpg)
The Merlin - Jet Li (http://www.wushukicks.com/chinese-martial-arts/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/jet-li-wushu.jpg)
Waldo Butters - Masi Oka (http://aatheory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/masioka_20091029_aatheory.jpg)
Hendricks - Bolo Yeung (http://www.hkcinemagic.com/en/images/people/large/DoubleImpact-BoloYeung_6acebad73d9376f4a9fd43173069c03e.jpg)
Shiro - Chuck Norris (http://thesegoto11.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/chucknorris.jpg)

Susan - Zhang Zi Yi (http://www.oneinchpunch.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/zhang-ziyi.jpg)
Murphy - Shu Qi (http://movie.cyol.com/images/2006-09/01/xin_270903011055545141215.jpg)
Lea - Vicki Zhao (http://www.avodyssey.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/vicki.jpg)
Mab - Michelle Yeoh (http://www.malaysiamysecondhome.org/michelle-yeoh-wallpaper.jpg)
Charity - Maggie Q (http://www.entertainmentnutz.com/hot_shots/maggie%20q.jpg)
Lara - Lucy Liu (http://www.schemamag.ca/archive2/images/LUCY_LIU.jpg)
Molly - Aya Ueto (http://c2.api.ning.com/files/BeJs5ryEVNdQr0hw9CNysDbxFUR-lH8AfgviDuBjB3UbHtUccndlDhQM-PVA7qSFXpEfaTf3a91K0uCdc2I8gU0BamZlOl7u/aya_ueto_2005_azumi2_0023.jpg)
Ancient Mai - Betty White (http://assets.gearlive.com/tvenvy/blogimages/bettywhite_redjacket.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 28, 2010, 07:53:40 PM
Okay, that was pretty funny.  I like how you made it work for Betty White being Ancient Mai  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 28, 2010, 08:42:51 PM
Okay, that was pretty funny.  I like how you made it work for Betty White being Ancient Mai  ;D

Did you see who I cast for Shiro?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 29, 2010, 02:08:37 AM
Hard to miss it.  One of eight names I DID know.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 29, 2010, 01:29:17 PM
Ha, yeah I figured not too many people would know most of those, but had to do an asian cast since i did a african-american cast.

Harry - Will Smith (http://authorjuliejames.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/will1.jpg)
Thomas - Tyrese Gibson (http://rmusicb.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/tyrese-gibson-11.jpg)
Morgan - Taye Diggs (http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l458/glvalentine/questionabletaste/equilibrium/EquilibriumStill0044-BrandtTayeDigg.jpg)
Kincaid - Wesley Snipes  (http://planb.episerverhotell.net/PageFiles/8399/wesley_snipes_08.jpg)
Michael - Forest Whitaker (http://static.ulike.net/img/01_Ghost_Dog:_The_Way_of_the_Samurai.jpg)
Marcone - Denzel Washington (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/denzel_washington1_300_400.jpg)
Ebenezar - Morgan Freeman (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/244freemanmorgan092806.jpg)
Nicodemus - Samuel L Jackson (http://nycsveryown.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/samuel_l_jackson.jpg)
Carlos - Don Cheadle (http://www.etoday.ru/uploads/2008/02/10/don_cheadle.jpg)
The Merlin - Tiny Lister (http://www.blackwebportal.com/medi_images/Tommy%20Tiny%20Lister%20(9).jpg)
Rashid - Laurence Fishburne (http://davidpelliott.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/matrix-morpheus_l1.jpg)
Injun Joe - Carl Weathers (http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/espy_awards_arrivals_5_120707/espy_awards_19_wenn1450311.jpg)
Waldo Butters - Chris Rock (http://data.yule.sohu.com/star/pic/star/3/3396/default.jpg)
Don Ortega - Jamie Foxx (http://hitmusicacademy.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/jamie-foxx.jpg)
Hendricks - Michael Clarke Duncan (http://www.thesharkbook.com/blog/uploaded_images/michael-clarke-duncan-729267.png)
McAnally - Danny Glover (http://www.salsamania.it/news/farandula%20mia/dic07/danny%20glover.jpg)
Sanya - Topher Grace (http://www.bgawebsites.org/computerclass/2005-06/mollysaint/topher.jpg)

Susan - Sanaa Lathan (http://dafiffloor.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/sanaa-lathan-560.jpg)
Murphy - Halle Berry (http://www.twitterglitter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/1270975931.jpg)
Lea - Tyra Banks (http://traceyricksfoster.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/tyra-banks-gl10.jpg)
Mab - Angela Bassett (http://images.askmen.com/photos/angela-bassett/63837.jpg)
Charity - Vivica Fox (http://hiphopspy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/vivica-fox-4.jpg)
Luccio - Gabrielle Union (http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/05/04/2009-hot-100-100-91/71-Gabrielle_Union_Hot100_l.jpg)
Lara - Zoe Saldana (http://tbreak.com/rex/files/uploads/Zoe-Salda%C3%B1a41.jpg)
Molly - Alicia Keys (http://healmenow.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/alicia-keys.jpg)

What's crazy is when I looked at this again, I can really see alot of these actors being able to pull of the right attitudes.

Wesley Snipes as Blade is so Kincaid like. Taye Diggs character in Equilibrium was the police type character that held to the letter of the law, just like Morgan. Forest Whitaker in Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai was sort of like a knight. Sam Jackson as Nic, don't think i need to explain this one. Morgan Freeman, well he really could fit like 3 roles; Eb, Injun Joe, or The Merlin. Tiny Lister was the President in Fifth Element. Denzel as Marcone, I think it fits.

Off topic, I always thought Laurence Fishburne would be the perfect Apocolypse if they ever put that character in the X-Men movies.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on June 29, 2010, 04:01:29 PM
FWIW, I'm all for putting Taye Diggs in every movie, ever.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Scop on June 29, 2010, 05:27:23 PM
Did you see who I cast for Shiro?

HAHAHA!!! Yes I did miss that ;D  Skipped right over Chuck for Betty.  Age befor beauty, I guess.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on June 29, 2010, 07:09:13 PM
Ha, yeah I figured not too many people would know most of those, but had to do an asian cast since i did a african-american cast.
As long as you do not do a Kevin Smith casting...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 29, 2010, 10:42:37 PM
Jay as Harry
Kevin as Bob
Ben Affleck as Johnny Marcone and rudolph
Jason Lee as Butters
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 30, 2010, 01:22:11 AM
Jay as Harry
Kevin as Bob
Ben Affleck as Johnny Marcone and rudolph
Jason Lee as Butters

The sad part? Jason Lee as Butters might just work. He's played stoned, he's played stupid, and now he's playing suave on Memphis Beat (TNT)... hell, might as well go for geniusy polka-happy medical examiner.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 30, 2010, 03:40:38 PM
Jason Lee as Harry, FTW!  ;)

(http://hideyourarms.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/karmaloopjl1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 30, 2010, 04:55:52 PM
Jason Lee as Harry, FTW!  ;)


I kind-of agree!  He is tall, cool, and witty as hell! 

(http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/Jason_Lee-10.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 30, 2010, 05:54:22 PM
I was kind of being sarcastic, but he would be better than Nathan Fillion.
(http://threetreesstudios.com/andscifi/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/l_a53a6650dbc43e02917c6fd80d1180fd.jpg)
I am amazed that Nathan Fillion is winning the poll. I just don't see it at all.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on June 30, 2010, 06:00:23 PM
My first pick would be Lee Pace(31). Second would be......tie between Zach Quinto(33) and Chris Evans(29), both have some pros and cons, Quinto comes off as too serious and Evans a little to comedic. Renolds(33) wouldn't be a terrible choice but also too comedic. Padalecki(27)... I don't know yet, haven't finished Supernatural.

Owen(45) was my first choice but he is too old, and Jackman(41) is up there to. Olyphant(42)...lost me at Hitman, and I don't watch Justified. Bettany(39)...just doesn't fit. Same with Butler(40). Neil Flynn(49) is too goofy for me, and way too old. Flanigan (43) also too old. Fillion(39) getting up there.

I favor the younger guys to kick off a movie franchise, makes sense that they can age with the movies, especially since harry is in his late 20's early 30's at the start of the series.

*btw those are their ages next to the names.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on June 30, 2010, 06:16:37 PM
I was kind of being sarcastic, but he would be better than Nathan Fillion.
(http://threetreesstudios.com/andscifi/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/l_a53a6650dbc43e02917c6fd80d1180fd.jpg)
I am amazed that Nathan Fillion is winning the poll. I just don't see it at all.



May we ask how old you are?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on June 30, 2010, 06:19:11 PM
My first choice is Joe Flanigan. 

(http://scifiandtvtalk.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/flanigan42.jpg)(http://www.comicbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/stormf01.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on June 30, 2010, 08:07:38 PM
Well, Nathan Fillion is on the poll; Nathan-as-Captain-Hammer is not.

Also, in my ever so humble opinion, Flanigan isn't a strong enough actor for the role of Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on June 30, 2010, 11:50:51 PM
I was kind of being sarcastic, but he would be better than Nathan Fillion.
(http://threetreesstudios.com/andscifi/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/l_a53a6650dbc43e02917c6fd80d1180fd.jpg)
I am amazed that Nathan Fillion is winning the poll. I just don't see it at all.



That would be because the picture you chose is of the oh-so-smug, full-of-himself Captain Hammer. Take Fillion, imagine him with longer, scruffier looking hair, and a permanent five o'clock shadow.... and make him lose about a hundred pounds.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on June 30, 2010, 11:52:08 PM
With Jaye Mewes as Murphy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 01, 2010, 01:03:25 PM
May we ask how old you are?

I am not sure what that has to do with it, but I am 28.

How old are you?  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on July 01, 2010, 01:10:02 PM
Now, do get me wrong.  I love Nathan Fillion in everything he's done.  And he would be a great Harry!  And he's such a sci-fi/fantasy fan that I think he would love to do it too.  However, he has always been to me, at least in my head while reading the books, Michael Carpenter.

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/090826/Nathan-Fillion_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 01, 2010, 01:11:20 PM
Now, do get me wrong.  I love Nathan Fillion in everything he's done.  And he would be a great Harry!  And he's such a sci-fi/fantasy fan that I think he would love to do it too.  However, he has always been to me, at least in my head while reading the books, Michael Carpenter.

See, now that I could get behind. He totally is how i would picture Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 01, 2010, 01:36:01 PM
I kind of notice a split when it comes to casting a movie.

I am more of a movie person. I don't watch many TV shows, though I am starting to now.

Anyhow. I notice through the entire thread that there are some that pick TV actors (Bomer and Fillion) over movie actors. IMO TV acting and movie acting are different. I think some actors make that transition well while others not so much.

That's not really saying a whole lot considering this poll because we have for example Quinto who has gone from Heroes to Star Trek movie. Pace from Wonderfalls and Pushing Daisies then his main movie role was The Fall which is a weird movie btw. Olyphant has gone from movies to now having his own show Justified. Fillion w/ Firefly to Serenity.
The rest in the poll are pretty much TV only or movie only as far as I can tell.

This however is moot when it come to my first pick for Harry because I would choose Pace who is as much of a movie actor as Fillion.

However, I didn't watch Firefly and I don't watch Castle, I did see Serenity though. Maybe this is why I am no huge fan of seeing Fillion as Harry, plus he doesn't fit the picture in my head.  :P But as I said above he does fit the picture I have of Michael in my head. Apparently Firefly and Castle are huge among the DF fans so I guess I better start watching these to find out what I am missing.

@Shecky
I guess I am too young maybe? or too old? I don't know, still not really sure what my age had to do with anything.  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 01, 2010, 06:05:06 PM
Olyphant(42)...lost me at Hitman, and I don't watch Justified.

Watch Justified.  It more than makes up for the travesty that was Hitman.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 01, 2010, 06:37:09 PM
I am not sure what that has to do with it, but I am 28.

How old are you?  :P

Considerably older. The trend I've noticed is that younger people tend to want younger actors playing Harry.

Unrelatedly, if you never watched "Firefly", you couldn't possibly know why so many people like him for the role of Harry - his character on that show... well, the snark was powerful in that one. He's one of the few who've proven they're capable of handling the snark. Even though he's a long way from looking the part, he could certainly ACT the part.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on July 02, 2010, 02:46:30 AM
Also, DEFINITELY watch Castle
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on July 02, 2010, 11:09:27 AM
I honestly don't see Fillion pulling it off, either.  And I did watch Castle, some, before I canceled my service.

If you'll all forgive me, I think part of it at least is that Fillion is the geek hero-of-choice.  There's no denying the man has a strong fanbase of, well, us.  Geeks.  If Bruce Campbell were younger, or if we were discussing this all five or ten years ago, I'd wager he'd be the frontrunner for Harry.  Lots of actors do quippy comedy well, and can stand up to all the green-screening that would be going on.  But the little something extra it takes to make someone Harry isn't necessarily there in either case, in my opinion.

And Shecky, I have to say that I favor someone younger, too, and I'm your age you old coot.  Storm Front Harry should be younger.

Now, I'm happy to see that some people agree Ryan Reynolds can pull it off.  He's got the range, he's got the scruff, he can look way younger or older, he'd just need to debuff (*sob*) and maybe dye the hair.  My FIRST CHOICE is, was, and remains, Paul Blackthorne.  Since the show, he's the Harry I see and hear in my head when I read the books.  Ryan gets tapped (so to speak *leer*) only if Blackthorne is unavailable.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 02, 2010, 01:00:16 PM
Oh, sure, for casting SF, the actor would have to be young. But remember: this is the PERFECT casting thread. Best-of-all-worlds, time-traveling casting, etc. Fillion, to me, doesn't have anywhere near the look of Harry, and that's not even considering age. But he's certainly got the CHARACTER down pat. Jim's personal pick, Alexi Denisof, I've never actually seen act (he was on Buffy, which I've never managed to watch more than a few episodes of), but apparently he's got both the look and the badass mentality (something about shooting his own father when he thought it necessary). I dunno.

Now, if we could graft personalities onto appearances... *descends into mad-scientist lab*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 01:10:54 PM
If you'll all forgive me, I think part of it at least is that Fillion is the geek hero-of-choice.  There's no denying the man has a strong fanbase of, well, us.  Geeks.  If Bruce Campbell were younger, or if we were discussing this all five or ten years ago, I'd wager he'd be the frontrunner for Harry.

this is the PERFECT casting thread. Best-of-all-worlds, time-traveling casting, etc.

Ah! I thought someone called "no time travel" way back in the thread, because someone had actually suggested Bruce Campbell and I was like no way he is way too old, and that's coming from me, I am a huge Bruce Campbell fan, Army of Darkness is one of my all time favs, and I watched every episode of Brisco County Jr when it originally aired.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 01:24:56 PM
Fillion, to me, doesn't have anywhere near the look of Harry, and that's not even considering age. But he's certainly got the CHARACTER down pat.

This statement makes sense, I agree with this.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 01:30:22 PM
But if we are time-traveling then my pick is Clint Eastwood.
(http://satyamshot.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/eastwood.jpg)
Give him a blasting rod and staff and we have a winner.

Though Clint's humor is a little bit dry.

My favorite quote:
Will Munny: Who's the fellow owns this shithole?
[pause]
Will Munny: You, fat man. Speak up.
Skinny Dubois: Uh, I... I own this establishment. I bought the place from Greeley for a thousand dollars.
[Will levels the shotgun, and speaks to someone standing behind Skinny]
Will Munny: You better clear outta there.
Man: Yes, sir.
[scampers out of the way]
Little Bill Daggett: Just hold it right there. Hold it...!
[Will shoots Skinny. Screaming, the women scatter upstairs]
Little Bill Daggett: Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!
Will Munny: Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend.

Dang now I want watch a western or go buy Red Dead Redemption.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 02, 2010, 01:37:34 PM
Jim's personal pick, Alexi Denisof, I've never actually seen act (he was on Buffy, which I've never managed to watch more than a few episodes of), but apparently he's got both the look and the badass mentality (something about shooting his own father when he thought it necessary). I dunno.


(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Jaeh_KS/AlexisDenisof_meins.jpg)

(http://images.tvrage.com/people/4/11582.jpg)

I see why. here's some pics.

and I remember him now. xD It's wesley!

The first picture just got to me. I think I have my harry. O.o

erm.. *blush* I can't stop staring at the picture.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 02, 2010, 01:51:41 PM
Yeah, and obviously having had the crap kicked out of him in the first picture makes him so much more Harry. :D

Ah! I thought someone called "no time travel" way back in the thread, because someone had actually suggested Bruce Campbell and I was like no way he is way too old, and that's coming from me, I am a huge Bruce Campbell fan, Army of Darkness is one of my all time favs, and I watched every episode of Brisco County Jr when it originally aired.

Brisco's awesome, isn't he? And part of the creation of visual Harry for the comic books was the use of Bruce Campbell's chin. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 02, 2010, 01:53:50 PM
Yeah, and obviously having had the crap kicked out of him in the first picture makes him so much more Harry. :D

this. so. freaking. this. I saw it, I was like... "HOLLY S**T, it's HARRY DRESDEN." :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 02, 2010, 02:31:37 PM

(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd271/Jaeh_KS/AlexisDenisof_meins.jpg)

(http://images.tvrage.com/people/4/11582.jpg)



YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. See, there's a reason that Jim's the one writing the books. He's freaking brilliant. If Alexis Denisof is his personal choice, then I say Hells Yes.



(also, completely off topic, but I wanted you all to see this: Jim posted this link (http://amzn.to/azUor4) on his Twitter the other night -- some moron decided to leave a review for Changes and it made Jim go all 'grrrr argh.' I really wish the dude that wrote the review would look at all the comments [3 pages worth] that people left, following that travesty of a review. Because it pretty much echoes the post-Changes discussions that happened in these forums, lol.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 02, 2010, 02:38:26 PM
Yeah, I was pleased with my just-now-added snarking. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on July 02, 2010, 02:49:02 PM

(also, completely off topic, but I wanted you all to see this: Jim posted this link (http://amzn.to/azUor4) on his Twitter the other night -- some moron decided to leave a review for Changes and it made Jim go all 'grrrr argh.' I really wish the dude that wrote the review would look at all the comments [3 pages worth] that people left, following that travesty of a review. Because it pretty much echoes the post-Changes discussions that happened in these forums, lol.)

I decided to respond to the Green-eyed Monster that "reviewed" Changes...see the response to the poster C.S. Long(?)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 02, 2010, 03:11:39 PM
saw that. can you say "fans to the rescue"? xD

oh, and a friend of mine's fast. O.o Photoshop on Alexi Denisof; beat up harry: http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19347.0.html
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 03:47:33 PM
(also, completely off topic, but I wanted you all to see this: Jim posted this link (http://amzn.to/azUor4) on his Twitter the other night -- some moron decided to leave a review for Changes and it made Jim go all 'grrrr argh.' I really wish the dude that wrote the review would look at all the comments [3 pages worth] that people left, following that travesty of a review. Because it pretty much echoes the post-Changes discussions that happened in these forums, lol.)

That was an entertaining read. I cracked up when one commenter said "good review, mongoloid!" LMAO

Hillarious!

Anyway that reviewer is probably "Trolling" which I have only recently discovered in one of the video game forums.

For those who aren't familiar with trolling, this is apparently when someone says something inflammatory just to get a rise out of everyone.

I am not really sure what motivates them, I guess I can kind of see the appeal of pissing other people off, but I haven't personally crossed that line.....yet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 03:56:59 PM
Jim Butcher sux and I hate all of his books, and stories, and characters, and his hair.
 :o :( >:( ;D :D ;) ??? 8) ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( :) :P :o :-X >:( ::) :P :-\ ;) :P :'( :-X :o
(http://www.mcphersondq.com/Designs/15-fish2.jpg)               (http://d3b9cwalzc5eko.cloudfront.net/albacore-tuna-taking-the-bait.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on July 02, 2010, 04:03:58 PM
Can I get a mod over here please???

Preferably one with a tank???


 ;) :D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 02, 2010, 04:09:34 PM
Here.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/SheckyX/tankmuzzle-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 02, 2010, 04:10:05 PM
Here.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/SheckyX/tankmuzzle-1.jpg)

it's like staring into the hole of doom.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 04:14:59 PM
Here.

Oh no, Shecky is like a warden and he is going to put me under the Doom of Damocles for speaking against the GODLIKE Jim Butcher.

*If you didn't read that Amazon review you are missing the whole Godlike reference.

Yeah, yeah, I know it's the council that decides the Doom, but a single warden fits this scenario better.  :P

Ha, I couldn't see the image of the TANK at first and I thought Murphy's Stunt Double meant a fish tank, because of my "taking the bait" pictures.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 02, 2010, 04:16:09 PM
Oh no, Shecky is like a warden and he is going to put me under the Doom of Damocles for speaking against the GODLIKE Jim Butcher.

*If you didn't read that Amazon review you are missing the whole Godlike reference.

Just genuflect on your way out of the temple and we'll call it even.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 04:20:36 PM
Just genuflect on your way out of the temple and we'll call it even.

I had to look up Genuflect, how sad is my vocab. LOL
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 02, 2010, 04:21:23 PM
neat, new vocab word.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on July 02, 2010, 04:42:29 PM
Here.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/SheckyX/tankmuzzle-1.jpg)


I is ready wif da cannon, Cap'n Hammer!
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/12/iisreadywifcannonsir.jpg) (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/iisreadywifcannonsir.jpg/)



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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 02, 2010, 04:53:37 PM
I decided to respond to the Green-eyed Monster that "reviewed" Changes...see the response to the poster C.S. Long(?)

I read it! And I loved it!!! :D

Yeah, I was pleased with my just-now-added snarking. ;D

Shecky, your snarking is welcome anywhere, particularly when it cuts down utter morons who are completely deserving of it!

That was an entertaining read. I cracked up when one commenter said "good review, mongoloid!" LMAO

Hillarious!

It was completely fantastic! My own response is about the eighth one down from the first comment (and two underneath the one that got deleted by Amazon, haha).

saw that. can you say "fans to the rescue"? xD

oh, and a friend of mine's fast. O.o Photoshop on Alexi Denisof; beat up harry: http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19347.0.html


You have NO idea :D And oh, poor Alexis! Did your friend have to beat him up even more in that picture? LOL.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 02, 2010, 05:34:01 PM
You have NO idea :D And oh, poor Alexis! Did your friend have to beat him up even more in that picture? LOL.

read it. I would say something too, if I could have. haha.

oh, and she says that "he honestly wasn't beat up, lol, in the other pic".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on July 02, 2010, 06:22:28 PM
This one isn't as good as my last cast because most people won't know many of these.

Harry - Tony Leung (http://orientalis.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/tonyleung2.jpg)
Thomas - Takeshi Kaneshiro (http://iselldreams.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/takeshi_kaneshiro_01.jpg)
Morgan - Tak Sakaguchi (http://www.behindthehype.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Death-Trance-photo-02.jpg)
Kincaid - Tony Jaa (http://katsublog.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/tonyjaa18_400.jpg)
Michael - Jackie Chan (http://seasweetie.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/jackie-chan-20070701-277666.jpg)
Marcone - Andy Lau (http://www.123people.net/l/lau-andy/lau-andy1.jpg)
Ebenezar - Chow Yun-Fat (http://www.earthsmightiest.com/images/news/moviestv/Chow%20Yun%20Fat%20in%20Dragonball.jpg)
Nicodemus - Min-sik Choi (http://www.unbsj.ca/arts/english/jones/mt/images/choi-min-sik.jpg)
The Merlin - Jet Li (http://www.wushukicks.com/chinese-martial-arts/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/jet-li-wushu.jpg)
Waldo Butters - Masi Oka (http://aatheory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/masioka_20091029_aatheory.jpg)
Hendricks - Bolo Yeung (http://www.hkcinemagic.com/en/images/people/large/DoubleImpact-BoloYeung_6acebad73d9376f4a9fd43173069c03e.jpg)
Shiro - Chuck Norris (http://thesegoto11.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/chucknorris.jpg)

Susan - Zhang Zi Yi (http://www.oneinchpunch.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/zhang-ziyi.jpg)
Murphy - Shu Qi (http://movie.cyol.com/images/2006-09/01/xin_270903011055545141215.jpg)
Lea - Vicki Zhao (http://www.avodyssey.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/vicki.jpg)
Mab - Michelle Yeoh (http://www.malaysiamysecondhome.org/michelle-yeoh-wallpaper.jpg)
Charity - Maggie Q (http://www.entertainmentnutz.com/hot_shots/maggie%20q.jpg)
Lara - Lucy Liu (http://www.schemamag.ca/archive2/images/LUCY_LIU.jpg)
Molly - Aya Ueto (http://c2.api.ning.com/files/BeJs5ryEVNdQr0hw9CNysDbxFUR-lH8AfgviDuBjB3UbHtUccndlDhQM-PVA7qSFXpEfaTf3a91K0uCdc2I8gU0BamZlOl7u/aya_ueto_2005_azumi2_0023.jpg)
Ancient Mai - Betty White (http://assets.gearlive.com/tvenvy/blogimages/bettywhite_redjacket.jpg)

LOL you must watch alot of Asian dramas. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 02, 2010, 06:30:23 PM
That's a joke, right...?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 06:41:15 PM
That's a joke, right...?

You mean my Asian Cast, no that's 100% serial. Just like my African-American cast.

Especially Chuck Norris. http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/ (http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 02, 2010, 06:44:51 PM
LOL you must watch alot of Asian dramas. ;)

Well I wouldn't say "drama", I think "suspense" more accurately describes it. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on July 02, 2010, 11:03:08 PM
Michael morpurgo for forthill? I know he isn't really an actor, but c'mon, if you've ever heard his audiobooks, he has quite a pleasant voice, and he kinda looks like the nice kind man who could be a priest if he wanted - http://dulwichgalleryfriends.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/sueg-michael-river-cropped2.jpg (http://dulwichgalleryfriends.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/sueg-michael-river-cropped2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 03, 2010, 04:51:04 AM
Added my own comment (Joshua Krebsbach), and yes, I went there.

And now that I see it, and I've heard him without the brit accent, Alexis Denisof is PERFECT for Dresden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 03, 2010, 05:00:28 AM
Added my own comment (Joshua Krebsbach), and yes, I went there.

And now that I see it, and I've heard him without the brit accent, Alexis Denisof is PERFECT for Dresden.

I just read that, and I about had a heart attack of the dreaded mention of the 'T' word near Butcher's name. <insert full body shudder> Yuck. Thanks for the nightmares, Jon.

Denisof played a stuffy British Watcher on BtVS, but if I remember rightly, he relaxed when he was brought in on AtS. He was more rogue on Angel, and a bit snarkier... now it's been a long time since I've seen an episode of Angel, but Alexis was on the show for all five seasons, so he definitely had room to grow the mandatory Joss-Whedon-Snark-App. I very much think that good ol' Wes could pull off Harry Dresden. Just so long as no one behind the scenes decides to get "creative" and give Harry a perma-scowl and sticky-uppy hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 03, 2010, 05:03:47 AM
I just read that, and I about had a heart attack of the dreaded mention of the 'T' word near Butcher's name. <insert full body shudder> Yuck. Thanks for the nightmares, Jon.

Denisof played a stuffy British Watcher on BtVS, but if I remember rightly, he relaxed when he was brought in on AtS. He was more rogue on Angel, and a bit snarkier... now it's been a long time since I've seen an episode of Angel, but Alexis was on the show for all five seasons, so he definitely had room to grow the mandatory Joss-Whedon-Snark-App. I very much think that good ol' Wes could pull off Harry Dresden. Just so long as no one behind the scenes decides to get "creative" and give Harry a perma-scowl and sticky-uppy hair.

As I said.  Yes.  I went there.  I'm not proud of it, but I stooped to his level.

Westly in seasons 4/5 was the best Westly in this Buffyverse Fan's opinion. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 04, 2010, 05:36:24 AM
Another point in my favor for Matt Bomer as Thomas:

OhDearGodInHeavenYum (http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/07/02/matt-bomer-wet-t-shirt-sexy/)

My brain will short circuit in 3... 2...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 04, 2010, 06:06:03 AM
*stares dumbly*

i'll be with him in my bunker.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 04, 2010, 06:17:59 AM
*surpresses gag reflex*

I'm not denying he looks the part.  Just gag at the picture.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 04, 2010, 06:27:25 AM
*surpresses gag reflex*

I'm not denying he looks the part.  Just gag at the picture.

Yeah.... you're not gonna find many women agreeing with you there, Jon :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 04, 2010, 06:28:06 AM
Got two.  My Sis and Mother both just said eww.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on July 06, 2010, 01:19:38 AM
Well I wouldn't say "drama", I think "suspense" more accurately describes it. :P

I'm so dense... I only just noticed the actual Asian characters you cast with White people *chuckles*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on July 06, 2010, 01:20:29 AM
I think Geoffrey Rush would make an excellent Erl King.
It just hit me since he's on SyFy now as that dutchman pirate in the Pirates of the Caribbean movie
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 06, 2010, 02:41:23 AM
I think Geoffrey Rush would make an excellent Erl King.
It just hit me since he's on SyFy now as that dutchman pirate in the Pirates of the Caribbean movie

Dutchman pirate...?

I think you're thinking of Bill Nighy. He played Davy Jones, the captain of the Flying Dutchman. Geoffrey Rush played Hector Barbossa, Sparrow's former first mate that jacked the Black Pearl out from under him :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 01:33:28 PM
I think Geoffrey Rush would make an excellent Erl King.
It just hit me since he's on SyFy now as that dutchman pirate in the Pirates of the Caribbean movie

I like Ron Perlman for the Erl King because I picture the Erl King looking like this. It's tough to find a good image of Hellboy with the Crown of the Apocalypse.
(http://bprd.b.p.pic.centerblog.net/de5k9sfn.jpg)

Which reminds me, the Drow Elf dude in this was awesome too (way cooler than Legolas).
(http://media.animegalleries.net/albums/userpics/176795/nuada-2.jpg)

Anyone here ever read R.A. Salvatore's Dark Elf Trilogy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 06, 2010, 02:26:37 PM
I just picture the Erlking looking more like a Teutonic Knight... something like this:

(http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28215&thumb=1&d=1230584604)

To that end, the actor underneath the armour isn't entirely in need of having huge acting chops - the Erlking could very well be CGI in his appearances.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 06, 2010, 02:39:14 PM
I just picture the Erlking looking more like a Teutonic Knight... something like this:

(http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28215&thumb=1&d=1230584604)

To that end, the actor underneath the armour isn't entirely in need of having huge acting chops - the Erlking could very well be CGI in his appearances.
(click to show/hide)

Dude, that is so awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on July 06, 2010, 04:09:07 PM
I like that too!  Very cool!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 06:50:11 PM
I totally agree with the armor.

However like you said, later they may need to have decent actor for the part.

I know Erlking roughly translates to
(click to show/hide)
, right? but isn't the Erlking really a
(click to show/hide)
?

Sorry I realize that is kind of SPOILERY.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 06, 2010, 06:57:12 PM
I know Erl King roughly translates to
(click to show/hide)
, right? but isn't the Erl King really a
(click to show/hide)
?

Sorry I realize that is kind of SPOILERY.

Actually Erlking in German is Erlkonig, which is "Alder King".  It was a mistranslation, the original Danish word was Elvrkonge or ElfKing.  Which, I guess, means you're right.  And yes the Erlking is the king of the
(click to show/hide)
.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 07:00:31 PM
So if we take some of that Teutonic Knight armor that miketh suggested, and throw it on Perlman, I think we would have our Erlking, because let's face it, Perlman doesn't even really need much make-up to look like a goblin.
(http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/ron-perlman.jpg)
Well, how I picture one anyway.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 06, 2010, 07:07:01 PM
Just a few scars and disfigurations, per Hollywood Magic Makeup, and we have our Der Erlkonig
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 07:07:22 PM
Of course, there is also this Goblin King.
(http://www.movieforum.com/movies/titles/labyrinth/images/jareth.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 07:10:56 PM
I just noticed it looks like his hands are missing?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 06, 2010, 07:11:16 PM
Um...no.  Not ugly enough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 07:15:27 PM
Um...no.  Not ugly enough.

I don't know, have you seen David Bowie lately. LOL

I was kidding about Bowie, I just remember that he played "Jareth the Goblin King" in Labyrinth.

Erlking is definitely Perlman.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 06, 2010, 07:20:40 PM
I wish I had photoshop @ work. I never have time to photoshop anymore when I am @ home.

I would definitely get down on photoshoping some of these actors as these characters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on July 06, 2010, 10:57:28 PM
Anyone see the picture of Kanye West at the BET awards with the staff and the overly large amulet? He would be perfect for Harry in a blaxploitation version of the  Dresden Files directed by Quentin Tarantino.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on July 07, 2010, 03:21:04 AM
The Erlking is one case where I thing the slightly impersonal effect of having CG character would be right. But I'd want somebody good for the voice part. Pearlman would be a gimme. How 'bout somebody less on-the-nose? Christopher Plummer? Paul Bettany Sir Anthony Hopkins? All three of those voices blended by a computer?

... Betty White?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on July 07, 2010, 02:10:13 PM
Harry - Neil Flynn (Wouldnt have thought of it, but after I read this... damn... fits)
Thomas - Jared Leto (Pretty Boy)
Bianca - Amy Lee of Evanesence
Ramierz - Wilmer Valderama
Marcone - Dude who plays the Devil in Reaper
Molly - Hard Choice, I would go with the Paige Chick from Xmen and Hard Candy
Ebenezer - Anthony Hopkins
Bob - Hugh Laurie, or Bruce Cambell
Morgan - Alan Rickman
Nicodemus - Christophen Walken Ala Prophecy


Just who I think (Posting again)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 07, 2010, 02:39:50 PM
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/A_F/Bi_Bp/bionicWoman/bionic-woman-sheppard19.jpg)
Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus. With a little touching up, he could have the look together. He can definetly play as Nicodemus, since his entire acting career is mainly focused around playing dastardly, evil villains.

(http://i3.digiguide.com/p/0811/1411-MarkStrong-12278876820.jpg)
Mark Strong as Agent Denton. Mark Strong is really good at playing villains and he can pull off the whole look of a demented FBI werewolf guy.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 07, 2010, 02:43:07 PM
(http://i3.digiguide.com/p/0811/1411-MarkStrong-12278876820.jpg)
Mark Strong as Agent Denton. Mark Strong is really good at playing villains and he can pull off the whole look of a demented FBI werewolf guy.  ;D

I'd cast Mark Strong as any villain in DF (you know, the scary guy ones...). He's awesome and kinda versatile, imo.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on July 07, 2010, 02:45:51 PM
Betty White for Mrs. Spunklecrief!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 07, 2010, 02:48:07 PM
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/A_F/Bi_Bp/bionicWoman/bionic-woman-sheppard19.jpg)
Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus. With a little touching up, he could have the look together. He can definetly play as Nicodemus, since his entire acting career is mainly focused around playing dastardly, evil villains.


YESSSSS!!!!! I LOVE Mark Sheppard! He plays Crowley (the head-honcho Crossroads demon soul collector) on Supernatural, and Agent Sterling on Leverage, and he is absolutely freaking AWESOME! He would pull of Nicodemus without even trying!!

(In case you couldn't tell, Bluebeard, this suggestion excites me ;D)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on July 07, 2010, 02:54:55 PM
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/A_F/Bi_Bp/bionicWoman/bionic-woman-sheppard19.jpg)
Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus. With a little touching up, he could have the look together. He can definetly play as Nicodemus, since his entire acting career is mainly focused around playing dastardly, evil villains.


Yeah for Badger!  Er, Romo Lampkin!  :) Hehehe!

I love Mark Sheppard!  Yeah, I like that suggestion for Nicodemus.  I agree that he shouldn't be the typical "Christopher Lee" or something obvious.  Nocodemus is calculating, intelligent, and you never see him coming...  Mark Sheppard is perfect!  Great suggestion!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 07, 2010, 03:23:20 PM
Harry - Neil Flynn (Wouldnt have thought of it, but after I read this... damn... fits)
Thomas - Jared Leto (Pretty Boy)
Bianca - Amy Lee of Evanesence
Ramierz - Wilmer Valderama
Marcone - Dude who plays the Devil in Reaper
Molly - Hard Choice, I would go with the Paige Chick from Xmen and Hard Candy
Ebenezer - Anthony Hopkins
Bob - Hugh Laurie, or Bruce Cambell
Morgan - Alan Rickman
Nicodemus - Christophen Walken Ala Prophecy


Just who I think (Posting again)

Neil Flynn -  as Harry? I don't think I can see it at all. Especially if we're starting off with Storm Front. Flynn could maybe be future!Harry but only b/c he's 50 :-\
Thomas - I have already made up my mind on this :)
Bianca -- Good call! Amy Lee is pretty much Goth Queen of Gothonia, playing Bianca would only seal the deal.
(http://colunistas.ig.com.br/curioso/files/2009/07/amy_lee_267315.jpg)
Ramirez - After That 70's Show, I cannot ever see Wilmer Valderrama in a serious role. Ever. He pretty much screwed himself with the role he played on that show. For me at least, lol.
Marcone - Ray Wise! Thank you for affirming this! It's what I've been saying for a while now, lol.
Molly - Now I'm showing my ignorance... was she in the movies? I have no idea who you're talking about, seriously. All I know about who has to play Molly is that she's supposed to be naturally blonde (with the willingness to dye her hair with colors not normally found in nature), and she has to be 'tall and built like the proverbial brick house'... just like whoever is cast to play Charity. Except younger.
Ebenezer - Still not sure on this one. Anthony Hopkins has played some of the greatest, and some of the freakiest roles in the world, and not to say he's not completely awesome, but I'm not even sure he could pull off Eb's role.
Bob - Hugh Laurie is completely amazing and I adore him. Unfortunately, I feel the same toward Bruce Campbell. Both are awesome choices, and I don't wanna choose :-)
Morgan -- Alan Rickman scares the crap out of me as Severus Snape in the Potter movies. But I don't particularly think he's exactly Morgan-like.
Nicodemus - Bluebeard already gave me my Nicodemus with the awesomeness of Mark Sheppard :)

You forgot Murphy!

Not even kidding, I keep doing searches for tiny, ass-kicking blonde actresses, and Sarah Michelle Gellar pops up on every list. I'm beginning to think it should just be her, lol. And she's the right age ATM. Murphy's in her early thirties at the beginning of the series.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 07, 2010, 03:24:22 PM
Betty White for Mrs. Spunklecrief!

Dude!! I think you're completely right :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 07, 2010, 03:28:41 PM
Christopher Plummer? Paul Bettany Sir Anthony Hopkins? All three of those voices blended by a computer?

Hah, that would actually be kinda awesome :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 07, 2010, 03:51:28 PM
(http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/files/michael-weatherly-20070325-230878.jpg)
Although, Alexis Denisof is perfect for Dresden and I'm glad Jim picked him, my second choice for Dresden would be Michael Weatherly. The guy is hilarious if you've ever watched NCIS, and he does tend to tower over his fellow castmates because he's 6'2.  ;D

Murphy is hard to cast.. Sienna Miller, Allison Mack, Alice Evans, and Sarah Michelle Gellar all have a little Murphy in them, though.

I also tend to imagine Bob as being voice by Jude Law.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on July 07, 2010, 04:35:47 PM
Molly - Now I'm showing my ignorance... was she in the movies? I have no idea who you're talking about, seriously. All I know about who has to play Molly is that she's supposed to be naturally blonde (with the willingness to dye her hair with colors not normally found in nature), and she has to be 'tall and built like the proverbial brick house'... just like whoever is cast to play Charity. Except younger.
I think the reference is to Ellen Page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0680983/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 07, 2010, 05:05:24 PM
I think the reference is to Ellen Page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0680983/)

Oh. Ohhhhh, I see. I was confused, because there actually was a character in the XMen comics named Paige. (Yes I looked this up.) Ellen Page as Molly? If she's willing to go blonde, I'm all for it :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on July 07, 2010, 05:29:16 PM
Insofar as Molly's hair is rarely (only) blonde, I don't have a problem with Ellen Page not being blonde either. I Page a lot. She could definitely pull off the Grasshopper.

I like both Marks, Strong and Sheppard. I don't think of Nicodemus as being much like Badger, though.

Sienna Miller is a big, fat, honking NO! Under no circumstances should that talentless, boring shrew be allowed anywhere near the Dresdenverse. Ever.

What about Weatherly as Kincaid?

I like some of DrkHoax's suggestions a great deal, but I really, really want to switch Hugh Laurie to Morgan, and Alan Rickman to Bob. Jared Leto bores me, so he can't get my vote for Thomas, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 07, 2010, 05:41:17 PM
Insofar as Molly's hair is rarely (only) blonde, I don't have a problem with Ellen Page not being blonde either. I Page a lot. She could definitely pull off the Grasshopper.


Well, she'll go blonde at some point, lol. Her hair in Changes was her natural color, plus dark green streaks.

Now, who looks enough like Ellen to play Charity?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 07, 2010, 05:55:26 PM
I can't stand Ellen Page.

But it's because Juno was so overated and was a rip-off of a Korean movie Jeni Juno (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny,_Juno).

I liked Hard Candy, but everything since Juno it seems like she is that same character, and I hate her five-head.
(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/galleries/celebpicsday/201009/AY31745851_440x370.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 07, 2010, 06:00:55 PM
For Molly I like Deborah Ann Woll from True Blood.
(http://theaterofmine.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/deborah-ann-woll.jpg)
At first I thought D. Fanning because she is the right age, but most everyone disagrees with that choice.
(http://tonicgossip.com/wp-content/dakota-fanning-push-1.jpg)
Third choice would be Amanda Seyfried.
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/2800000/Amanda-Seyfried-amanda-seyfried-2805313-360-480.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 07, 2010, 06:11:53 PM
For Molly I like Deborah Ann Woll from True Blood.
(http://theaterofmine.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/deborah-ann-woll.jpg)
At first I thought D. Fanning because she is the right age, but most everyone disagrees with that choice.
(http://tonicgossip.com/wp-content/dakota-fanning-push-1.jpg)
Third choice would be Amanda Seyfried.
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/2800000/Amanda-Seyfried-amanda-seyfried-2805313-360-480.jpg)


Deborah Ann Woll would be good, but I don't think she could age with the role and Molly does start off really young.

Amanda Seyfried is a little too old, I think...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 07, 2010, 06:54:34 PM
Deborah Ann Woll would be good, but I don't think she could age with the role and Molly does start off really young.

Amanda Seyfried is a little too old, I think...

That's actually why I thought D. Fanning because both Woll and Seyfried are 25ish, but everyone seemed to shoot down the idea of 16 year old D Fanning even though Molly is 14 the first time she is introduced in the story.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 07, 2010, 06:56:25 PM
I like Weatherly.  Weatherly is awesome.  Michael Weatherly needs to be in here somewhere.  That being said.  Not Harry.  Marcone sure.  Not Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 07, 2010, 07:18:17 PM
That's actually why I thought D. Fanning because both Woll and Seyfried are 25ish, but everyone seemed to shoot down the idea of 16 year old D Fanning even though Molly is 14 the first time she is introduced in the story.

Meh, I don't like D. Fanning much, but she doesn't seem to look anything like how Molly is in the book... *shrug*

I'd go with Abigail Breslin, the girl from zombieland, because she's actually 14.  ;D

I like Weatherly.  Weatherly is awesome.  Michael Weatherly needs to be in here somewhere.  That being said.  Not Harry.  Marcone sure.  Not Harry.

Yeah, Weatherly could probably only do the humor part of the role, not the real badass stuff or emotional moments.

He has the look for Marcone, but I'm not exactly sure if he could do it...

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 07, 2010, 08:08:54 PM
Meh, I don't like D. Fanning much, but she doesn't seem to look anything like how Molly is in the book... *shrug*
I'd go with Abigail Breslin, the girl from zombieland, because she's actually 14.  ;D

Abigail Breslin....hum. I would agree, but everyone shot down D Fanning because they felt she was "too small" and Breslin is even smaller.

And I guess no one has watched Push. D Fanning's character was pretty much exactly like Molly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 07, 2010, 08:24:17 PM
Abigail Breslin....hum. I would agree, but everyone shot down D Fanning because they felt she was "too small" and Breslin is even smaller.

And I guess no one has watched Push. D Fanning's character was pretty much exactly like Molly.

Well remember, she would start out as 14 (Death Masks), and Breslin could possibly get bigger from there.

Or maybe I'm just not a big fan of D. Fanning. *shrug*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Efialtis on July 08, 2010, 05:19:25 AM
Just to throw a wrench in things...
How about Jonathan Rhys Meyers for Dresden?(http://www.topnews.in/files/Jonathan.Rhys.Meyers.jpg)
Granted, not the greatest picture...but...?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 08, 2010, 10:02:40 AM
(http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/files/michael-weatherly-20070325-230878.jpg)
Although, Alexis Denisof is perfect for Dresden and I'm glad Jim picked him, my second choice for Dresden would be Michael Weatherly. The guy is hilarious if you've ever watched NCIS, and he does tend to tower over his fellow castmates because he's 6'2.  ;D

Like this. It's either him or Alexis Denisof for me. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 01:10:15 PM
Just to throw a wrench in things...
How about Jonathan Rhys Meyers for Dresden?(http://www.topnews.in/files/Jonathan.Rhys.Meyers.jpg)
Granted, not the greatest picture...but...?

I think he would be more of a Thomas.
(http://ladamesansregrets.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/jonathan-rhys-meyers-tudors-08.jpg)
To good looking to be Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 01:17:24 PM
(http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/files/michael-weatherly-20070325-230878.jpg)
Although, Alexis Denisof is perfect for Dresden and I'm glad Jim picked him, my second choice for Dresden would be Michael Weatherly. The guy is hilarious if you've ever watched NCIS, and he does tend to tower over his fellow castmates because he's 6'2.  ;D

I am not familiar with this actor, but he also looks kind of too pretty/clean cut for Harry. Maybe another Thomas candidate. I would have to see this guy with some facial hair maybe.

I agree with Denisof for Harry because he is handsome but not really pretty IMO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 08, 2010, 02:55:28 PM
I am not familiar with this actor, but he also looks kind of too pretty/clean cut for Harry. Maybe another Thomas candidate. I would have to see this guy with some facial hair maybe.

I agree with Denisof for Harry because he is handsome but not really pretty IMO.

http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/michael-weatherly/michael-weatherly-20080607-421050.jpg (http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/michael-weatherly/michael-weatherly-20080607-421050.jpg)

A picture with more facial hair...

I'm looking for an actress to play Murphy, but no one really fits into the ideal image...

(http://mydisguises.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/morenabaccarin.jpg)
I like Morena Baccarin as Bianca. She can do a totally alien role because she's always played rather off character and recently played the leader of the aliens in V/

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 08, 2010, 04:43:15 PM
Seconded.

And Michael Weatherly was able to do the serious role too, as the "Eyes Only" dude from Dark Angel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 08, 2010, 05:12:29 PM
Seconded.

And Michael Weatherly was able to do the serious role too, as the "Eyes Only" dude from Dark Angel.

I had forgotten about Dark Angel.  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Uilos on July 08, 2010, 05:30:34 PM
For some reason, I see Mia Wasikowska as what Ivy would look like in the second half of the series.

(http://blog.newsok.com/bamsblog/files/2008/07/mia-wasikowska.jpg) (http://wearemoviegeeks.com/wp-content/mia_wasikowska.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 05:57:05 PM
For some reason, I see Mia Wasikowska as what Ivy would look like in the second half of the series.

Sure, except Mia Wasikowska is 20 years old and Ivy is 7, and I realize you said second half of series, but it's still not a logical choice considering the huge age difference.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Uilos on July 08, 2010, 05:59:30 PM
Sure, except Mia Wasikowska is 20 years old and Ivy is 7, and I realize you said second half of series, but it's still not a logical choice considering the huge age difference.

Ivy is roughly twelve by Small Favors, she is introduced as being 7
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 08, 2010, 06:13:16 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Lindsey_McDonald.gif)
I would like to see Christian Kane as Kincaid, but isn't Kincaid blonde in the books?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 06:19:01 PM
Ivy is roughly twelve by Small Favors, she is introduced as being 7

You are correct, I still think it's a huge age gap though. A 20 year old playing a 7 year old circa Death Mask or even a 12 year old circa Small Favors.

Now if we aren't doing realistic casting, for example time traveling, then yeah I would say she has the look.

But in reality if the casted the movies right now Mia Wasikowska would be way too old.

Now Chloe Moretz on the other hand is 13 right now (vs Mia @20) and would make a perfect Ivy. Granted it's still cutting it close at this point.
(http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/042209_kick-ass_moretz.jpg)
Another good suggestion earlier in this thread was Morgan Lily age 10.
(http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/photos/stylus/112881-morgan_lily_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 06:20:35 PM
I would like to see Christian Kane as Kincaid, but isn't Kincaid blonde in the books?

He could die his hair, but I don't really get the "Hellhound" vibe from this guy anyhow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 08, 2010, 06:29:51 PM
He could die his hair, but I don't really get the "Hellhound" vibe from this guy anyhow.

I picked Kane because on Leverage, he's the 'Hitter', sort of a mercenary-for-hire. So I thought he could pull off Kincaid's role.

Yeah, I think Chloe Moretz is perfect for Ivy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 06:36:24 PM
I picked Kane because on Leverage, he's the 'Hitter', sort of a mercenary-for-hire. So I thought he could pull off Kincaid's role.

That makes sense.

However, Timothy Olyphant also played a "Hitman (http://scissormonkey.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/hitman.jpg)" and most of us still regret that.

My choice is Alexander Skarsgard (http://suckerforvampires.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/alexander-skarsgard-1.jpg), he is awesome on True Blood. And I didn't watch Generation Kill, but he was apparently awesome on that show as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 08, 2010, 06:41:35 PM
That makes sense.

However, Timothy Olyphant also played a "Hitman (http://scissormonkey.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/hitman.jpg)" and most of us still regret that.

My choice is Alexander Skarsgard (http://suckerforvampires.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/alexander-skarsgard-1.jpg), he is awesome on True Blood. And I didn't watch Generation Kill, but he was apparently awesome on that show as well.

Haha, I remember Hitman. That was terrible.  >:(

Skarsgard does sort of look like the ideal image of Kincaid. He's got the blonde hair and everything, don't watch much true blood, though...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 06:45:57 PM
Everyone that reads Dresden Files would probably like True Blood, it's got vamps (not the sparkly kind), and shifters, werewolves, etc. Great show IMO, it's better than the Dresden Files TV show.

*albeit I never read the Sookie Stackhouse novels, and I read Dresden Files way before seeing the TV show.

Come to think of it, I think Charmed and Buffy were also better shows.  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Uilos on July 08, 2010, 06:49:28 PM
Everyone that reads Dresden Files would probably like True Blood, it's got vamps (not the sparkly kind), and shifters, werewolves, etc. Great show IMO, it's better than the Dresden Files TV show.

*albeit I never read the Sookie Stackhouse novels, and I read Dresden Files way before seeing the TV show.

Also, one of the Sookie Stackhouse novels makes an oblique reference to Harry, I believe
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 08, 2010, 07:00:16 PM
Everyone that reads Dresden Files would probably like True Blood, it's got vamps (not the sparkly kind), and shifters, werewolves, etc. Great show IMO, it's better than the Dresden Files TV show.

*albeit I never read the Sookie Stackhouse novels, and I read Dresden Files way before seeing the TV show.

Come to think of it, I think Charmed and Buffy were also better shows.  :P

I might watch it one day, my brother is a big fan of it...

Buffy (and Angel) was an awesome series. Never really watched Charmed besides about three episodes. I also like Supernatural, a lot.

(http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~peortega/images/elisha-cuthbert2.jpg)
Eisha Cuthbert as Murphy? What do you guys think? She was in 24, as Kim Bauer...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 08, 2010, 07:51:52 PM
That crossed my mind but she is a little young, and though I think she is smokin' hot, I don't think she is that strong of an actress.

I think she would be better for like a Lasciel or something like that, there again I don't know if she could pull off the "Temptress" but she didn't do soo bad with that in Girl Next Door.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 03:03:18 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Lindsey_McDonald.gif)
I would like to see Christian Kane as Kincaid, but isn't Kincaid blonde in the books?


I... I-I.... guh.

*blink*

I'm sorry, I utterly lost control of my mouth for a minute. And my eyes. And my tongue. And pretty much my mind.

And I could actually see CK playing Kincaid, since he's Eliot Spencer on Leverage and gets to beat the crap out of everything (a long cry from his days as Lindsey McDonald on Angel), but yes, Kincaid is blonde in the books. He's described as having 'golden blonde hair' that he occasionally wears tied back in a ponytail.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 09, 2010, 04:56:19 AM

I... I-I.... guh.

*blink*

I'm sorry, I utterly lost control of my mouth for a minute. And my eyes. And my tongue. And pretty much my mind.

And I could actually see CK playing Kincaid, since he's Eliot Spencer on Leverage and gets to beat the crap out of everything (a long cry from his days as Lindsey McDonald on Angel), but yes, Kincaid is blonde in the books. He's described as having 'golden blonde hair' that he occasionally wears tied back in a ponytail.

Hmm, they could dye his hair for that. Skarsgard looks the part, though.

Hasn't CK had a ponytail before, though?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 09, 2010, 05:33:38 AM
While on the topic of Fool Moon, who agrees with Hugh Jackman for Harly MacFinn?  He fits Harry's "overly masculine" stereotype fairly well, IMHO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 05:41:14 AM
Hmm, they could dye his hair for that. Skarsgard looks the part, though.

Hasn't CK had a ponytail before, though?

(http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/p99FrC9nyfmwA8QHF-saRg41092)

It's not at a really good angle to see it, but yes, his hair's in a ponytail. This also happens to be CK's Big Bad look :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 05:43:57 AM
While on the topic of Fool Moon, who agrees with Hugh Jackman for Harly MacFinn?  He fits Harry's "overly masculine" stereotype fairly well, IMHO.

Did you mean Harley the second time?

Well. Given that Harley becomes an incredibly large, hairy, frightening wolf animal in Fool Moon, and Jackman has actually played a wolfman before (I'm not talking about the incredibly hairy, incredibly awesome Wolverine, although that was a treat; I'm talking about the CGI werewolf that he "became" in Van Helsing), I wouldn't say no to it :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on July 09, 2010, 11:40:16 AM
The Only reason I picked Jared Leto for Thomas is you need to find someone who just isnt OMG to girls, but someone that also a guy can say, yeah he is decent looking. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 01:25:21 PM
Who else provides comic relief besides Harry? I can't really remember anyone else at the moment.
Anyhow I was watching something with Sean William Scott in it last night and I forgot how much I like him, and I was trying to think of who he could play in the Dresden cast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on July 09, 2010, 02:51:58 PM
Rudolf the Brown Nose
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 09, 2010, 02:58:01 PM
Did you mean Harley the second time?

Well. Given that Harley becomes an incredibly large, hairy, frightening wolf animal in Fool Moon, and Jackman has actually played a wolfman before (I'm not talking about the incredibly hairy, incredibly awesome Wolverine, although that was a treat; I'm talking about the CGI werewolf that he "became" in Van Helsing), I wouldn't say no to it :)
No, I meant that Harry describes him in his mind as 'overly masculine', which fits Jackman very well.  And I absolutely loved Van Helsing, I wish that it could have become a series as intentioned  :-\

As for Sean William Scott - he could be Ramirez, of course :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 03:37:52 PM
No, I meant that Harry describes him in his mind as 'overly masculine', which fits Jackman very well.  And I absolutely loved Van Helsing, I wish that it could have become a series as intentioned  :-\

OMG you loved Van Helsing........I had high hopes for it but I now have the opposite of love for that movie, it was terrible. Don't get me wrong, I love Jackman and Beckinsale, I was just very dissapointed in the dialogue and storyline of the Van Helsing movie. Especially when they start the movie off with him chasing Mr Hyde so soon after LXG movie. Also why is Frankenstein's monster act like a big teddy bear. And why is that Dracula is so pissed about losing a finger, and how come we don't see that he is missing it until the end, and if he can morph clothing why the hell can't he morph a finger. And the ridiculous scene where they had to unecessarily throw the syringe when they were just going to meet up on the other side of the bridge anyways. And worst of all an Angel bumped his head and got amnesia and turns into a werewolf. Really!?! Just an awful awful movie!

Great cinematography, costume design, and special effects at least.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 03:44:08 PM
Who else provides comic relief besides Harry? I can't really remember anyone else at the moment.
Anyhow I was watching something with Sean William Scott in it last night and I forgot how much I like him, and I was trying to think of who he could play in the Dresden cast.

Make him dye his hair darker, and he could play Billy :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 03:47:07 PM
Make him dye his hair darker, and he could play Billy :)

I thought about that, but Sean William Scott is a little to old to play Billy, and I already had Billy pegged as Emile Hirsch.
(http://elbee4.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/emile-hirsch_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 03:50:46 PM
No, I meant that Harry describes him in his mind as 'overly masculine', which fits Jackman very well.

Heh. That's one way to describe him.

Someone needs to create an emoticon with Jim's trademark fishhook eyebrow dealie :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 03:59:42 PM
I thought about that, but Sean William Scott is a little to old to play Billy, and I already had Billy pegged as Emile Hirsch.
(http://elbee4.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/emile-hirsch_l.jpg)

Huh. He certainly looks like he could play Billy!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 04:03:14 PM
While we are on the subject of Jackman he is pretty much the new Clint Eastwood IMO.

Though Viggo Mortisen makes a pretty good gunslinger too.

Brolin was ok in Jonah Hex, but that movie bombed anyway, I thought it was decent, but it only made 9 mil opening weekend, which is considered a bomb since the budget was 47 mil.

I know it's off topic, but I always try to think of newer actors that could replace some of the greats that are gone or passed their prime.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 04:20:32 PM
Another one is Willem Dafoe in Cirque du Freak: The Vampire's Assistant, when I saw him in that I was like OMG it's Vincent Price.
(http://www.hollow-art.com/files/imagecache/rss100x100/bases/highlights/5494/hollow_art_wdva011.jpg)(http://www.scott-golden.com/halloween/HalloweenMedia/Vincent%20Price/vincent.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 04:38:57 PM

(http://mydisguises.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/morenabaccarin.jpg)
I like Morena Baccarin as Bianca. She can do a totally alien role because she's always played rather off character and recently played the leader of the aliens in V/

Actually, I kind of see Morena as a possible Susan Rodriguez. Morena was born in Rio de Janeiro :)

And personally, I definitely see her as a seductive-type character that could certainly catch Harry's attention. I kinda want to see her expand outside of oddball alien roles :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 09, 2010, 04:52:08 PM
Actually, I kind of see Morena as a possible Susan Rodriguez. Morena was born in Rio de Janeiro :)

And personally, I definitely see her as a seductive-type character that could certainly catch Harry's attention. I kinda want to see her expand outside of oddball alien roles :)

I considered her for Susan, but Butcher said Erica Cera, and that was a good choice, IMO.

I think she could combine both the seductiveness of a vampire along with their alien nature, as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 06:12:20 PM
I know these aren't really big parts but Don Paolo Ortega and The Red King.
(http://theantoniobanderas.com/UserFiles/2009/7/22/Antonio-Banderas-wants-to-p.jpg)(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cb/RobertLaSardoTattoo.JPG/415px-RobertLaSardoTattoo.JPG)(http://www.nndb.com/people/087/000026009/bdt.jpg)(http://www.nndb.com/people/733/000109406/javier-bardem.jpg)(http://www.collider.com/wp-content/image-base/People/D/Danny_Trejo/danny_trejo.jpg)

I was thinking LaSardo for Red King because he already has that Aztec thing kind of going on.
At first I thought Banderas for Ortega but now I kind of think Del Toro.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 06:24:13 PM
And Henry Rollins (http://julieluongo.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/henry-rollins.jpg) should play Henry Rawlins.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 09, 2010, 06:38:39 PM
I think that Javier Bardem (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000849/) could play a great Grevane.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 06:38:59 PM
Toot-toot should be played by Robert Pattinson.
(http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/000989475/profiles_EFairy_4312_200020_xlarge.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
I think that Javier Bardem (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000849/) could play a great Grevane.

or Willem Dafoe.
(http://dgt1.net/manny/mblog/images/willem_defoe.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 06:45:56 PM
Toot-toot should be played by Robert Pattinson.
(http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/000989475/profiles_EFairy_4312_200020_xlarge.png)

LMFAO. Perfect. Just dye his hair purple :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 06:48:09 PM
I think that Javier Bardem (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000849/) could play a great Grevane.
or Hugo Weaving.
(http://livingromcom.typepad.com/my_weblog/images/agent_smith_poses04.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 09, 2010, 07:25:03 PM
And Henry Rollins (http://julieluongo.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/henry-rollins.jpg) should play Henry Rawlins.  ;D

I thought Rawlins was black though?  ???
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 07:30:47 PM
I thought Rawlins was black though?  ???

Probably, I just said that because the names are homophones.
He could go through that procedure that Robert Downey Jr had in Tropic Thunder, or the plastic surgery that Kyle had in South Park a.........something plasty.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 08:13:11 PM
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/entertainment/thumbnailfull/reginald-veljohnson-darius-mccrary-2009-4-19-21-51-6.jpg)

Remember this guy? (The older one, not the younger one.)

If you said Carl Winslow from Family Matters, you're right. This is Reginald Vel Johnson, whose face is always in my mind when I imagine what Rawlins looks like :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on July 09, 2010, 08:20:44 PM
John Cusack would make a great Harry Dresden
Tim Blake nelson a good Waldo butters
benicio del toro as Raoul Ortega
Ian McKellen as Arthur Langtry
Emily Deschanel Karen Murphy
antonio banderas - gatekeeper
 
a few ideas for cast members
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on July 09, 2010, 08:24:18 PM
Quote
This is Reginald Vel Johnson, whose face is always in my mind when I imagine what Rawlins looks like
Mine, too! It's either him or Mark Christopher Lawrence ("Big Mike" from Chuck.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 09, 2010, 08:27:32 PM
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/entertainment/thumbnailfull/reginald-veljohnson-darius-mccrary-2009-4-19-21-51-6.jpg)

Remember this guy? (The older one, not the younger one.)

If you said Carl Winslow from Family Matters, you're right. This is Reginald Vel Johnson, whose face is always in my mind when I imagine what Rawlins looks like :)

He looks exactly how I picture Rawlins!  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 09, 2010, 08:41:38 PM
John Cusack would make a great Harry Dresden
Tim Blake nelson a good Waldo butters
benicio del toro as Raoul Ortega
Ian McKellen as Arthur Langtry
Emily Deschanel Karen Murphy
antonio banderas - gatekeeper
 
a few ideas for cast members

John Cusack.....I like him but he definitely could not pull off Harry. His humor is too dry.

Tim Blake Nelson for Butters. Good choice. But I now think Justin Long (http://www.b105.com/blog/media/justin-long1.jpg), since everyone said my idea of Steve Buscemi and Paul Reubens were both too old.

Benicio Del Toro as Don Paolo Ortega. Yes.

Ian McKellen as Arthur Langtry. I thought so too, but many people thought it was too cliche, because Gandolf.

Emily Deschanel as Karrin Murphy. That could work, I don't know her work that well though.

Antonio Banderas as Rashid/The Gatekeeper....eh, Rashid is suppose to be middle eastern so my pick is Oded Fehr (http://angelacameron.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/oded-fehr.jpg) even though he is only 40ish, but it's easy to make people look older.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 09:13:22 PM
So I've been keeping my own cast listing, with all the DF characters and who I think should play them... And it's rather pathetically empty, lol. And I'm too lazy to go back through all of my past posts and see who all I've chosen for the majority of roles, but I at least have my top four characters filled out.

Harry -- Alexis Denisof (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u250/heuchelinchen/Angel/Autogramme/Alexis%20Denisof/AlexisDenisof_meins.jpg) (Thank you, Jim!)
Murphy -- Elisabeth Röhm (http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u66/rlashea/elisabeth-rohm.jpg) (the chick in my icon)
Thomas -- Matt Bomer (http://dirkmancuso.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/c3kha8tqthjbhk8b.jpg)
Molly -- Sammi Hanratty (http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/v/6/v6fi256yd7uffuy.jpg) (as younger Molly) and Deborah Ann Woll (http://www.poptower.com/images/db/10130/450/450/deborah-ann-woll.jpg) as 17 to 20-something year old Molly :)

Plus, I have...

Marcone -- Ray Wise (http://lh6.google.com/nerdspawn/R_yNBESdiBI/AAAAAAAAACA/bfbbCAWBo7c/s400/Ray%20Wise%20in%20Reaper.jpg)
Morgan -- Jean Reno (http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/actores/jean_reno/fotos/1059/jean_reno.jpg) (check out his performance in The da Vinci Code. Eep.)
Rashid -- Shaun Toub (http://c0181301.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/NEEEiJJLVt5yII_1_1.jpg)
Martha Liberty -- CCH Pounder (http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pounder.jpg)
Ebenezar -- Jim Beaver (http://images.buddytv.com/usrimages/usr3165401/3165401_118d8f8c-658f-406d-a159-6bb02feb0b55-jim-beaver.jpg) (For those of you who watch Supernatural, and love his character Bobby Singer, you KNOW why I chose him as Eb!)
Justine -- Rachel McAdams (http://hairbrained.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/rachel-mcadams-hair-latest-hairstyles-com.jpg) (I say Rachel as Justine, because she has had a myriad of different performances [translation = she plays bat-shit stinking crazy well], plus Justine is described as 'the girl next door.' I originally wanted Jennifer Garner as Justine, but didn't think that would work too well :-\)
Nicodemus -- Mark Sheppard (http://media.battlestarwiki.org/images/8/8c/Mark_Sheppard.jpg)
Bianca -- Amy Lee (http://www.getonmyspace.com/Images/Female_Celebrities/Amy_Lee/images/Sexy_Amy_Lee_0066.jpg)
And for some reason, whenever I think of Tessa, I think of Julie Benz (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/95/S205_Darla.JPG/270px-S205_Darla.JPG), who was so awesome at playing psycho loony bitch Darla on Buffy and Angel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 09, 2010, 09:16:56 PM
So I've been keeping my own cast listing, with all the DF characters and who I think should play them... And it's rather pathetically empty, lol. And I'm too lazy to go back through all of my past posts and see who all I've chosen for the majority of roles, but I at least have my top four characters filled out.

Harry -- Alexis Denisof (Thank you, Jim!)
Murphy -- Elisabeth Rohm (the chick in my icon)
Thomas -- Matt Bomer
Molly -- Sammi Hanratty (http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/v/6/v6fi256yd7uffuy.jpg) (as younger Molly) and Deborah Ann Woll as 17 to 20-something year old Molly :)

Plus, I have...

Marcone -- Ray Wise
Morgan -- Jean Reno (check out his performance in The da Vinci Code. Eep.)
Rashid -- Shaun Toub
Martha Liberty -- CCH Pounder
Ebenezar -- Jim Beaver
Justine -- Rachel McAdams
Nicodemus -- Mark Sheppard
Bianca -- Amy Lee
And for some reason, whenever I think of Tessa, I think of Julie Benz, who was so awesome at playing psycho loony bitch Darla on Buffy and Angel.


I keep my own list and it is also very empty. I like Elisabeth Rohm as Murphy, Sammi Hanratty as Molly, and YES to Jim Beaver as Ebenezar! Mark Sheppard was like my first suggestion in this topic, lol.

Julie Benz could pull off Tessa, I think, but isn't Tessa described as like a fifteen old girl?

Rohm is too tall, though. She's 5'8.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 09:35:14 PM
I keep my own list and it is also very empty. I like Elisabeth Rohm as Murphy, Sammi Hanratty as Molly, and YES to Jim Beaver as Ebenezar! Mark Sheppard was like my first suggestion in this topic, lol.

Julie Benz could pull off Tessa, I think, but isn't Tessa described as like a fifteen old girl?

Rohm is too tall, though. She's 5'8.

LOL, it's your fault I'm so set on Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus anyway! :D

And yeah, she is, but how many fifteen year old actresses are you going to find willing to do the things Tessa has done in the books? Plus, did you SEE the first season of Buffy, with Darla skipping around in a freaking Catholic school girl outfit? She passed off as a high school girl in the first episode, at least till she killed the guy she was with, if I remember right.

And my only other choice for Murphy is Sarah Michelle Gellar. She's certainly short enough, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 09, 2010, 10:01:14 PM
LOL, it's your fault I'm so set on Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus anyway! :D

And yeah, she is, but how many fifteen year old actresses are you going to find willing to do the things Tessa has done in the books? Plus, did you SEE the first season of Buffy, with Darla skipping around in a freaking Catholic school girl outfit? She passed off as a high school girl in the first episode, at least till she killed the guy she was with, if I remember right.

And my only other choice for Murphy is Sarah Michelle Gellar. She's certainly short enough, lol.

lol

Hmm, Julie Benz could pull off, definetly, though. Not sure if she could still pass a high schooler, nowadays.

Yeah, SMG, got her whole career started by playing short action girls :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 09, 2010, 11:07:51 PM
lol

Hmm, Julie Benz could pull off, definetly, though. Not sure if she could still pass a high schooler, nowadays.

Yeah, SMG, got her whole career started by playing short action girls :P

Well, there is the magic of make-up and CGI. Especially given that Tessa is Mantis Girl... we're not gonna often see her in her human shape :-\

Well... technically, she got started on a soap opera -- Action Girl came later :) But yeah, anyway, my moniker doesn't just stand for Murphy!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on July 10, 2010, 12:14:51 AM
John Cusack.....I like him but he definitely could not pull off Harry. His humor is too dry.

Tim Blake Nelson for Butters. Good choice. But I now think Justin Long (http://www.b105.com/blog/media/justin-long1.jpg), since everyone said my idea of Steve Buscemi and Paul Reubens were both too old.

Benicio Del Toro as Don Paolo Ortega. Yes.

Ian McKellen as Arthur Langtry. I thought so too, but many people thought it was too cliche, because Gandolf.

Emily Deschanel as Karrin Murphy. That could work, I don't know her work that well though.

Antonio Banderas as Rashid/The Gatekeeper....eh, Rashid is suppose to be middle eastern so my pick is Oded Fehr (http://angelacameron.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/oded-fehr.jpg) even though he is only 40ish, but it's easy to make people look older.

the guy who played Dean Winchester (Jensen Ackles) for Harry DResden instead. He has smartass humor
I agree about waldo.Justin Long is perfect
i still say Ian
Oded Fehr is a better Rashid
and I am keeping to my guns with Emily if not charlize theron she might make a better Karen but probably a bit too tall
as far as Bob (who won't actually be seen on camera only in voice and computer image.)  I go with James Marsters as the voice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 10, 2010, 03:18:23 AM
Jensen Ackles is WAY too short. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 10, 2010, 02:07:20 PM
LOL. Jensen is only 6'1".

On the other hand, Jared Padalecki is 6'5", which is a lot closer. Earlier in this thread somewhere, it led me to suggest having Jared play Harry and Jensen play Thomas, especially since there are similar height and age differences between them :) (plus, it'd be kinda fun having Jim Beaver play
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, lol :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 10, 2010, 03:47:38 PM
LOL. Jensen is only 6'1".

On the other hand, Jared Padalecki is 6'5", which is a lot closer. Earlier in this thread somewhere, it led me to suggest having Jared play Harry and Jensen play Thomas, especially since there are similar height and age differences between them :) (plus, it'd be kinda fun having Jim Beaver play
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, lol :)

Oh really?

He always look short to me because he's standing by Jared, who is like a giant. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 10, 2010, 04:03:28 PM
Oh really?

He always look short to me because he's standing by Jared, who is like a giant. :P



http://www.jensenacklesfans.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=810&Itemid=236 (http://www.jensenacklesfans.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=810&Itemid=236)

This was in an interview he did in '07 :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 10, 2010, 04:08:25 PM
Toot-toot should be played by Robert Pattinson.
(http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/000989475/profiles_EFairy_4312_200020_xlarge.png)

:o >:( Words cannot...  I... >:(  Can I shoot you now?

I just thought of the  words to describe this idea.  HELL! NO!  Toot toot is WAY too cool for you to do that to him!



<-- Just a little bit outraged.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: telkesh on July 10, 2010, 07:51:51 PM
:o >:( Words cannot...  I... >:(  Can I shoot you now?

I just thought of the  words to describe this idea.  HELL! NO!  Toot toot is WAY too cool for you to do that to him!

Is your problem with the actor himself, or with the most recent character he's played? I think if he were given a chance to play sometihng with more depth thana  piece of string he might actually enjoy the roll. you've got to remember that even the actor dislikes the character he plays.
I think that is awesome. And toot-toot is much manlier than edward. I'd love to see twilight fangirls/moms cry for him ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 10, 2010, 10:21:42 PM
you've got to remember that even the actor dislikes the character he plays.
I think that is awesome. And toot-toot is much manlier than edward. I'd love to see twilight fangirls/moms cry for him ;D

He does?  KEWL!  Yes, my objection is DEFINITELY the character, as I haven't seen much of the actor (Besides HP and TL).



And in other news I heartily agree on Christian Kane for Kincaid and Mark Sheppard as Nic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 10, 2010, 10:53:55 PM
He does?  KEWL!  Yes, my objection is DEFINITELY the character, as I haven't seen much of the actor (Besides HP and TL).

Personally, I think your objection should be with the author, since she's the one that created the character in the first place. Blech. An embarrassment for all vampire and werewolf kind. Dracula, Spike, Oz and Billy would be rolling over in their graves. If they had them.

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And in other news I heartily agree on Christian Kane for Kincaid and Mark Sheppard as Nic.

Woohoo!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 10, 2010, 11:00:25 PM
Personally, I think your objection should be with the author, since she's the one that created the character in the first place. Blech. An embarrassment for all vampire and werewolf kind. Dracula, Spike, Oz and Billy would be rolling over in their graves. If they had them.


Don't forget Lawrence Talbot and Count Orlock.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 11, 2010, 12:27:14 AM
Don't forget Lawrence Talbot and Count Orlock.

Verrrrry true!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on July 12, 2010, 02:04:11 PM

antonio banderas - gatekeeper


No.  Why?  Because he's not Arab/Middle Eastern.  Yes, yes, I know he played one in "The 13th Warrior", but personally I think it's extremely tacky when American actors or International popular actors (in Antonio's case) to play roles to draw crowds.  Rashid is Middle Eastern and I think that casting the correct ethnicity -- there are plenty of very good Arab/Middle Eastern actors out there that can play The Gatekeeper. 

Oded Fehr is Israeli, but at least has the look I think of Rashid (he's pretty tall 6'2)
(http://im.in.com/media/blish/p/photos/2009/Apr/oded_fehr_99090423034512_515x343.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 02:59:40 PM
No.  Why?  Because he's not Arab/Middle Eastern.  Yes, yes, I know he played one in "The 13th Warrior", but personally I think it's extremely tacky when American actors or International popular actors (in Antonio's case) to play roles to draw crowds.  Rashid is Middle Eastern and I think that casting the correct ethnicity -- there are plenty of very good Arab/Middle Eastern actors out there that can play The Gatekeeper.  

Oded Fehr is Israeli, but at least has the look I think of Rashid (he's pretty tall 6'2)

Funny you should mention that because Antonio Banderas also played Armand the Vampire in Interview with the Vampire. And Armand is suppose to be a 15 year old Russian boy with blond curly hair.

Although I did seriously consider Antonio Banderas for Don Paolo Ortega, or possibly the Red King.

BTW I think I was the first to call Oded Fehr FTW. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 03:16:22 PM
No.  Why?  Because he's not Arab/Middle Eastern.  Yes, yes, I know he played one in "The 13th Warrior", but personally I think it's extremely tacky when American actors or International popular actors (in Antonio's case) to play roles to draw crowds.  Rashid is Middle Eastern and I think that casting the correct ethnicity -- there are plenty of very good Arab/Middle Eastern actors out there that can play The Gatekeeper. 

We are agreed. As probably the only Arab/Middle Eastern character in the books (*coughhintcoughJimcough*), and as an Arab/Middle Eastern girl myself, I refuse to accept any other actor in the role. This entire Racebending thing over the Last Airbender movie has really got me thinking, and it's pushed me to the point that I realize, hey -- you know, there's really not all that many Middle Eastern or Arabic actors in American movies, nor are they generally portrayed as such if there are, and that's really kind of annoying. If a person is listed as a certain ethnicity, then they should be portrayed by someone of the same ethnicity.

And as a person of the same ethnicity, I want Rashid played by a Middle Eastern actor. Dammit.  :P

Sorry to all Antonio Banderas fans.

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Oded Fehr is Israeli, but at least has the look I think of Rashid (he's pretty tall 6'2)
(http://im.in.com/media/blish/p/photos/2009/Apr/oded_fehr_99090423034512_515x343.jpg)


Shaun Toub was recently brought to my attention as an actor, and he's Iranian/Jewish. I have no idea how tall he is, and though I originally did want Oded Fehr in this role (he's Israeli, yes, but he was born in the country, and the country is generally considered to be a part of the Middle East since it's right freaking there), I kind of get the sense that Fehr may actually be too young for the role :-\ Is that possible? Does anyone else think that?

Shaun Toub is actually very good at playing the older, wizened character role. Unfortunately, he's the sort of person that is of that indeterminate age, mainly because he won't SAY how old he is. (Maybe I'm not searching it right.)

By the way, he's also one of those actors that have been all over the place, like Ray Wise and Mark Sheppard. I just looked at his IMDB resume (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0869467/) :) Anyway, he's my pick for Rashid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 03:21:23 PM
Funny you should mention that because Antonio Banderas also played Armand the Vampire in Interview with the Vampire. And Armand is suppose to be a 15 year old Russian boy with blond curly hair.

Although I did seriously consider Antonio Banderas for Don Paolo Ortega, or possibly the Red King.

BTW I think I was the first to call Oded Fehr FTW. :P

Actually, MoSeS_, I was, so haha :P :)

No, seriously, I was.

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The Gatekeeper-Ghassan Massoud
(I'm actually very curious about this man. I have never seen him act, but I'm already partially biased because he was born in my mother and father's hometown/country. Another choice would be Oded Fehr. He played Ardeth Bay in the Mummy movies, and Zankou on the 7th season of Charmed.)

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.msg811595/topicseen.html#msg811595
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 03:32:50 PM
Someone mentioned Elisabeth Rohm for Murphy. I think she definitely fits the attitude.

To me Kristen Bell sort of has the look I imagine for Murphy, cute cheerleader look, but Bell is only 29, and I think Murphy is in her mid to late 30's at the begining of the series.

Shaun Toub.....Awesome! This guy looks like the middle eastern version of cross between Jean Reno & Ben Kingsley. Ha! Just in that picture though.

I actually only remember him from Iron Man though. I haven't really seen much else with him.

I still kind of learn toward Oded though because I think the Gatekeeper should be taller and menacing, and I think Oded can pull off the menacing part better than Toub.

But that's just my opinion because Toub was such the nice guy in Iron Man.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 03:43:06 PM
Actually, MoSeS_, I was, so haha :P :)

No, seriously, I was.

Actually someone beat us both to that idea a long time ago.

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Oded Fehr as the Gatekeeper. He played aleader of the Medjai in the first two Mummy movies, and Olivera in the last two Resident Evil movies.

I also see you had Wes Studi as LTW also. I also came to that same conclusion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 04:01:48 PM
Someone mentioned Elisabeth Rohm for Murphy. I think she definitely fits the attitude.

I dunno who originally mentioned it, but apparently I took up the cause, because that's who is on my icon :) For me, it's either Elisabeth, or SMG, and if they choose Elisabeth, then Harry needs to either be wearing lifts, or 8 feet tall. :-\


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I still kind of learn toward Oded though because I think the Gatekeeper should be taller and menacing, and I think Oded can pull off the menacing part better than Toub.


(http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=avatarmovie.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Favatarmovie.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F10%2Fewiroh.jpg&sref=http%3A%2F%2Flastairbenderfilm.com%2Fcategory%2Fshaun-toub%2F)

This is from the set of The Last Airbender. It also might be more convincing if he weren't sitting in a make up chair and playing with his cell phone, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on July 12, 2010, 04:04:14 PM

This is from the set of The Last Airbender. It also might be more convincing if he weren't sitting in a make up chair and playing with his cell phone, lol.

LOL!  I love it!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 04:04:27 PM
:o >:( Words cannot...  I... >:(  Can I shoot you now?

I just thought of the  words to describe this idea.  HELL! NO!  Toot toot is WAY too cool for you to do that to him!

<-- Just a little bit outraged.

Your'e right though Toot-Toot is a way cooler character than Edward Cullen. I am a little bit outraged at myself now that I think about it.  >:(

I don't really have a problem with this actor, I just not a fan of Twilight......well sort of.

I don't really want to get off topic since this isn't the "Twilight thread" but I actually read all the books before the movies came out, and I have to say the story arc and characters aren't that bad, it's really just the dialogue that is targeted at emotional teenage girls.

Granted much of the character developement borrows from previous vampire novels like Anne Rice, unique dark gifts per vampire, etc. And we could have done without the whole sparkling thing, but again, teenage girls love glitter.

Anyhow it had potential had some good editor manned it up.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 04:07:05 PM
This is from the set of The Last Airbender. It also might be more convincing if he weren't sitting in a make up chair and playing with his cell phone, lol.

Ahhh!!! I see your point.

I haven't seen The Last Airbender yet, but I heard it was pretty awesome considering it is kind of targeted at kids.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 04:16:32 PM
Bob the Skull = Eddie Izzard

Wether or not they do a body.
(http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/passtheremote/izzard.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on July 12, 2010, 04:23:13 PM
Has Jim ever addressed the Bob must sound British issue? Is it an issue? Does he agree? If Bob takes on personality characteristics of his possessor, shouldn't he also sound like a teenage boy like Harry was when he grabbed him from the ashes? Ivy sounds pretty intense coming from a small child, couldn't Bob sound intelligent without the British accent?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 04:25:09 PM
Ahhh!!! I see your point.

I haven't seen The Last Airbender yet, but I heard it was pretty awesome considering it is kind of targeted at kids.

Just as long as you were not originally a fan of the cartoon... because if you were, you'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 04:28:12 PM
Has Jim ever addressed the Bob must sound British issue? Is it an issue? Does he agree? If Bob takes on personality characteristics of his possessor, shouldn't he also sound like a teenage boy like Harry was when he grabbed him from the ashes? Ivy sounds pretty intense coming from a small child, couldn't Bob sound intelligent without the British accent?

Good point. But not the reason I choose Eddie. I can see Eddie as the perverted romance novel reading type. And Eddie Izzard can sound American, he did in The Riches.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 04:32:35 PM
Sanya = Djimon Hounsou

btw it's rumored that Djimon Hounsou may play Kratos in a God of War movie.

and he is also going to be in Thulsa Doom movie, which is one of the characters from Conan the Barbarian.

granted Djimon Hounsou is not Russian, but does anyone know of an actually big time black russian actor?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on July 12, 2010, 04:33:11 PM
Good point. But not the reason I choose Eddie. I can see Eddie as the perverted romance novel reading type. And Eddie Izzard can sound American, he did in The Riches.

Not that I am saying "DEATH TO THE BRITS!!" I just don't get that accent when Bob says "They have boooooobs!" I hear teenage boy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 04:38:00 PM
Not that I am saying "DEATH TO THE BRITS!!" I just don't get that accent when Bob says "They have boooooobs!" I hear teenage boy.

I guess it all depends on different factors.

1) did you read the books?
2) or did you listen to the audiobooks?
3) did you watch the TV show?

I started off reading the books, then later I finished up with the audiobooks, now I am watching the TV show. So I think the way a person pictures a character is heavily influenced by which medium was used when they became familiar with a character.

But I have to admit, even though I watched the show last, I think Terrence Mann may have some influence on why I would choose Eddie Izzard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 12, 2010, 04:41:53 PM
Just as long as you were not originally a fan of the cartoon... because if you were, you'll be disappointed.

really? yipes. I have been looking forward to it. I'm not a fan-fan of the cartoon, but I liked it very much. I hope it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

I've only got two people on my list: Matt Bomer as Thomas, and Alexis Denisof/Michael Weatherly as Harry.

my murphy's (and the rest) still blank. *frown* why is it so hard to cast murph. *sigh*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 04:57:43 PM
Good point. But not the reason I choose Eddie. I can see Eddie as the perverted romance novel reading type. And Eddie Izzard can sound American, he did in The Riches.

I adore Eddie Izzard. He would definitely take Bob to a whole 'nother level, with a body or without :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 05:06:26 PM
really? yipes. I have been looking forward to it. I'm not a fan-fan of the cartoon, but I liked it very much. I hope it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

I'll admit, I'm in love with the cartoon (and yes, I am an adult, I'm 25, and no, that doesn't really matter. Or pertain to this topic, lol.) But I've watched every episode about a million times (yes, I'm exaggerating), and... well, once you see it, you can find all the approvals or complaints on this (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19303.0.html) thread. (The thread was launched the day before the movie's official release and is up to five pages right now.) If you were a hardcore fan of the cartoon, though, yeah, you'll be annoyed. They changed a lot of stuff.

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I've only got two people on my list: Matt Bomer as Thomas, and Alexis Denisof/Michael Weatherly as Harry.

Yes, and Yes!!

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my murphy's (and the rest) still blank. *frown* why is it so hard to cast murph. *sigh*

Because Murphy's one of those perfectly imperfect characters that readers adore, and because this thread is PERFECT CASTING :)

It just occurred to me that whoever plays Murphy may be required to ride her Harley. (It is a Harley, isn't it? Momentary brain fail). I personally think SMG may be more willing to do that than Elisabeth Rohm will be :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 05:14:18 PM
I'll admit, I'm in love with the cartoon (and yes, I am an adult, I'm 25, and no, that doesn't really matter. Or pertain to this topic, lol.)

I am 28 and I loved the Dragon Ball and DBZ cartoon (never got in DBGT), and I have to say that live action version blew big time. And it even had James Marsters as Piccolo.  :-X

Of course, DBZ came out in 1989 and aired in America in 1999. So I guess I wass like 7 when that show started.  :P

But I also liked Naruto, though I only watched a few here and there.

And I hear Bleach is amazing though I only had time to watch the first episode so far.

And I liked Inu Yasha.

I use to be big into anime but I haven't had time to keep up with it in like the past 10 years. Too much video gaming, reading books, catching up on TV shows and movies and asian movies. I have literally a terabyte of catching up to do.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 12, 2010, 06:12:42 PM
Sanya = Djimon Hounsou

btw it's rumored that Djimon Hounsou may play Kratos in a God of War movie.

Hollywood is REALLY losing it, aren't they?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 06:28:22 PM
Hollywood is REALLY losing it, aren't they?

It is a bit of a stretch considering Kratos is a Spartan, however since Kratos is cursed and covered with the ashes of his dead wife and daughter, it doesn't really matter what color the actor is.

Besides that Kratos speaks english and sounds like a wrestler in the video game which isn't accurate either considering English was not yet invented in Ancient Greece.

Same with movies like Troy, etc.

I liked that in 13th Warrior they worked into the whole english thing as being the percieved language but not actually what they were really speaking.
Fun fact- did you know 13th Warrior was a box office bomb.
I actually liked it a lot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box_office_bombs

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 12, 2010, 06:33:38 PM
I'm upset.  I liked 13th Warrior and Sahara, why are they so high up on the list?  That's just bad.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: uncanny on July 12, 2010, 06:37:12 PM
Erm.. am I the only one that thought Paul Blackthorne was a great Harry?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 12, 2010, 06:43:49 PM
Erm.. am I the only one that thought Paul Blackthorne was a great Harry?

Nope.  But we're talking the "Perfect" cast.  And while, good, Blackthorne wasn't Perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 06:54:23 PM
I'm upset.  I liked 13th Warrior and Sahara, why are they so high up on the list?  That's just bad.

Well it's total cost vs. theater gross I am not sure how they figure in DVD sales. I feel like that would have been one of those movies that a lot of people bought the dvd but probably didn't go to the theater to watch it.

I guess that doesn't make it any less of a BOMB by definition of box office bombs.

*as an after thought I actually like many of the movies on the list. Soldier is actually one of my favorite movies. The Last Castle was good IMO. Ok, so most of them probably deserve to be there. Catwoman...great ideal, poor execution and though Halle Berry is hot, she ain't no Michelle Pfeiffer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2010, 07:10:10 PM
Nope.  But we're talking the "Perfect" cast.  And while, good, Blackthorne wasn't Perfect.

Also, IMO if the were to make a movie series, they should try to get as far away from the show as they can.

I am not saying because the show was bad, but because the storyline is completely different, so much so that even characters names were changed. Like Karrin Murphy was changed to Connie Murphy.

The movie series should be a fresh cast and as close to the books as possible.

However, it wouldn't hurt to cameo Blackthorne just as a tribute to fans of the show. Like maybe he could be one of the cops or something.

The way they cameo Lou Ferrigno in both the Hulk(2003) and Incredible Hulk(2008).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 12, 2010, 08:57:14 PM
To be fair, we need Terrence Mann in here somewhere.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 12, 2010, 10:44:32 PM
Erm.. am I the only one that thought Paul Blackthorne was a great Harry?

*raises hand* I'm in it with you, dude.

although, must admit, there are probably better harrys out there. but paul would always be the voice of harry in my head, unless a movie comes out. >.<

karrin's name was changed to connie because there's a real life cop named "karrin" or something close.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 12, 2010, 10:48:00 PM
Actually, the cop's name was Karyn Murphy, and since there's no written distinction on TV, well,
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 12, 2010, 11:44:34 PM

karrin's name was changed to connie because there's a real life cop named "karrin" or something close.

Was she also a tiny hard-assed white woman that could kill a man with one look? Because that might explain why they cast a Latina in a white woman's role and a white woman in a Latina's role. (I have nothing against Valerie Cruz, in fact, I think she killed the role on the show [killed in this circumstance meaning she made it freaking awesome], but I still don't understand why they switched things around like that.
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BugEyedEarl on July 13, 2010, 08:35:44 AM
Sanya- Idris Elba
Michael- Karl Urban
Nicodemus- Robert Knepper
Morgan- Brendan Gleeson
Murphy- Kristen Bell
Bob- Frank Welker
Injun Joe- Wes Studi
Ebenezar- Sam Elliott
Butters- Patton Oswalt
Bianca- Rachel Nichols
The Merlin- Bill Nighy
Marcone- Andy Garcia
Shiro- Ryo Ishibashi
Kincaid- Adam Baldwin

EDIT: And I didn't even realize someone on page 1 suggested  urban as Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 13, 2010, 09:58:43 AM
I'm liking the suggestion of Kristen Bell as Murphy.

Maybe if she was a bit older, but other then that she's perfect and got the acting skills
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BugEyedEarl on July 13, 2010, 10:11:37 AM
I'm liking the suggestion of Kristen Bell as Murphy.

Maybe if she was a bit older, but other then that she's perfect and got the acting skills

Sometimes a young age can say a lot about the character the same way an older one can- it says she worked very hard to get where she is now, especially when you take into account politics and sexism in the force.

And I'm no age-ist, but Murphy being referred to as "cute" kind of made me think she was younger than her 30s. I just don't associate that word with people above a certain age.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: woody71 on July 13, 2010, 10:17:56 AM
It's been said several times already, so I'll just throw my vote into the pile and say that I believe that Butters should be played by Zack Gallaphinacas.  The more he ages, the more he becomes Butters to me.

OMG!  Brilliant...I'll never seen Butters as anyone else now!  Well played.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 01:53:10 PM
Sanya- Idris Elba
Michael- Karl Urban
Nicodemus- Robert Knepper
Morgan- Brendan Gleeson
Murphy- Kristen Bell
Bob- Frank Welker
Injun Joe- Wes Studi
Ebenezar- Sam Elliott
Butters- Patton Oswalt
Bianca- Rachel Nichols
The Merlin- Bill Nighy
Marcone- Andy Garcia
Shiro- Ryo Ishibashi
Kincaid- Adam Baldwin

EDIT: And I didn't even realize someone on page 1 suggested  urban as Michael.

Sanya- Idris Elba (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/idris_elba_blackprwire1.jpg). Yes but I would still say Djimon Hounsou (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/12980/713_tn2_djimon_hounsou_3.jpg) 1st because his role in Gladiator
Michael- Karl Urban (http://www.ageofthering.com/atthemovies/cast/eomer.jpg)(Eomer). eh, I think Sean Bean (http://www.eljinetepalido.es/wp-content/uploads/boromir.jpg)(Boromir) or Viggo Mortensen (http://rosemunu.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/viggo-mortensen.jpg)(Aragorn) are how I picture Michael
* ha, I just realized all 3 of them were in LOTR.
Nicodemus- Robert Knepper (http://www.giftsandfreeadvice.com/free_advice/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/tbag4.jpg). YES! He is good in Heroes. But for big budget I would say Gary Oldman (http://inthenameofmovies.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/gary-as-sirius.jpg).
Morgan- Brendan Gleeson (http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2005_Harry_Potter_and_the_Goblet_of_Fire/2005_harry_potter_and_the_goblet_of_fire_043.jpg). "Mad-Eye" Moody...not bad. I still think Stephen Lang (http://www.silverfeast.com/wp-content/uploads/stephen_lang.jpg) fits better.
Murphy- Kristen Bell (http://tvrecappersanonymous.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/kristen-bell-you-again.jpg). I am glad people agree with me on this.
Bob- Frank Welker....Megatron? which voice role did you have in mind.
Injun Joe- Wes Studi (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/eo/f/f3/Wes_Studi1.jpg). YES!!!!!!!! That was my choice too.
Ebenezar- Sam Elliott (http://media.canada.com/idl/otct/20070524/32868-11401.jpg)... I love Sam Elliot, but for me he would be 3rd to Tommy Lee Jones (http://www.nikohk.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/tommy-lee-jones-cannes-2005-nicolas-guerin.jpg) and Rip Torn (http://www.focofilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/rip-torn-1.jpg).
Butters- Patton Oswalt (http://www.broadwayworld.com/columnpic/Oswalt.jpg), good one, I didn't consider him. But I stand by my choice, Justin Long (http://www.b105.com/blog/media/justin-long1.jpg).
Bianca- Rachel Nichols (http://ramascreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Rachel_Nichols_001.jpg). Good choice. I don't have a better one, except I think Mila Kunis (http://www.unrealaddicts.com/forums/attachments/multimedia/3188d1223755947-hotties-mila_kunis_l1.jpg) might could pull it off.
The Merlin- Bill Nighy (http://www.sinepil.org/imaj/queennothing/underworldviktor.jpg). Perfert!! Nighy was my original choice for Nic but he is too old.
Marcone- Andy Garcia (http://www.librarising.com/astrology/celebs/images2/A/andygarcia.jpg).... :-\ I don't see Marcone as any kind of ethnic. I agree with Ray Wise (http://0.tqn.com/d/horror/1/0/P/m/-/-/Reaper_RayWise2.jpg) or Adrian Pasadar (http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/AdrianPasdar.jpg).
Shiro- Ryo Ishibashi (http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTc3NDMwNDg4NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwMTE0OTI3._V1._SX485_SY323_.jpg). Good one. Or the dad on Heroes maybe. George Takei (http://i.space.com/images/090203-george-takei-02.jpg)/Mr. Sulu.
Kincaid- Adam Baldwin (http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/jayne-cobb.jpg). Sorry but NO! It's Alexander Skarsgard (http://suckerforvampires.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/alexander-skarsgard-1.jpg).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 13, 2010, 02:06:31 PM
So I'm considering writing a "fan's script" of several DF casebooks, with tentative actors, producers, musical scorers, etc etc for each and posting them in the fanfiction section of the site.  Would anyone be against that, or like to collaborate? :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 13, 2010, 02:34:56 PM
So I'm considering writing a "fan's script" of several DF casebooks, with tentative actors, producers, musical scorers, etc etc for each and posting them in the fanfiction section of the site.  Would anyone be against that, or like to collaborate? :P

Dude, just tell me what you want and I'll help :)

Are you still gonna continue the After The Funeral fic? I need something to tide me over until Aftermath, and it was doing a real good job of that!

(The Dark And Stormy Knights Anthology is coming out next Tuesday!!!!!)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 02:53:39 PM
It's been said several times already, so I'll just throw my vote into the pile and say that I believe that Butters should be played by Zack Gallaphinacas.  The more he ages, the more he becomes Butters to me.

OMG!  Brilliant...I'll never seen Butters as anyone else now!  Well played.

I could not disagree more. I think people choose Zach Galifianakis because of the guy who played Butters in the TV show. Zach Galifianakis is Greek btw, I point this out because Butters is Jewish.

Anyways. My first two choices were a little too old but my 3rd choice is dead on.
Steve Buscemi, Paul Reubens, Justin Long
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_aoxXydvUqL4/TBD7heHb4HI/AAAAAAAAAVA/3Vs0kUeDu6A/s800/15deli600.jpg)(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_aoxXydvUqL4/TBD8czZLV_I/AAAAAAAAAVI/gQOMHKMbIFc/s800/paul-reubens_l.jpg)(http://photos.ifmagazine.com/graphics/features_movie/die_hard-_justin_long.jpg)

Description of Butters:
Quote
From Dead Beat:

"Screw up my life?" He stared a me for a second and then said, deadpan, "I'm a five-foot-three, thirty-seven-year-old, single, Jewish medical examiner who needs to pick up his lederhosen from the dry cleaners so that he can play in a one-man polka band at Oktoberfest tomorrow." He pushed up his glasses with his forefinger, folded his arms, and said, "Do your worst."

From White Night:

Butters was an odd little duck. He wasn’t much taller than Murphy, and she probably had more muscle than he did. His shock of black hair resembled nothing so much as an explosion in a steel wool factory. He was all knees and elbows, especially in the surgical greens he was wearing, his face was lean and angular, his nose beaky, and his eyes were bright behind the prescription glasses.

Don't get me wrong I love Zach Galifianakis, but he isn't scrawny at all. His face isn't lean or angular at all.
I also don't think Zack could pull off the cowardly screeching parts either.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 13, 2010, 03:00:39 PM

(http://photos.ifmagazine.com/graphics/features_movie/die_hard-_justin_long.jpg)

Description of Butters:
From Dead Beat:

"Screw up my life?" He stared a me for a second and then said, deadpan, "I'm a five-foot-three, thirty-seven-year-old, single, Jewish medical examiner who needs to pick up his lederhosen from the dry cleaners so that he can play in a one-man polka band at Oktoberfest tomorrow." He pushed up his glasses with his forefinger, folded his arms, and said, "Do your worst."

From White Night:

Butters was an odd little duck. He wasn’t much taller than Murphy, and she probably had more muscle than he did. His shock of black hair resembled nothing so much as an explosion in a steel wool factory. He was all knees and elbows, especially in the surgical greens he was wearing, his face was lean and angular, his nose beaky, and his eyes were bright behind the prescription glasses.


You won me over :) Unless there's someone much more suitable for the role that comes along, Justin Long has my vote for Butters!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 13, 2010, 03:05:33 PM
my butters would be Zach Galinifianakis, but man don't look like him (he's my mental image, tho).

I vote TJ Thyne!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 03:20:58 PM
my butters would be Zach Galinifianakis, but man don't look like him (he's my mental image, tho).

I vote TJ Thyne!
This is Waldo Butters in the TV show (on the right).
(http://doc-0g-0g-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ct0u59s39dq6sqe84udh7u3ehq37nmo6/dpe3hdimv6v9eeal7ginhpd4vq29o96v/1279022400000/05835411182615825942/05835411182615825942/0B8NfYpeXR_TAM2EyYWVmMDAtYTY5ZS00ZTU5LWI2MWUtNzg5ODVlNjA2MmNm?nonce=8jp2iec4oiv04&user=05835411182615825942&hash=6rke8lirlpuou89uurc16aksdgddmhlp)

This is Zach Galifianakis in Tru Calling.
(http://doc-0o-0g-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ct0u59s39dq6sqe84udh7u3ehq37nmo6/qrb1qtu3fejipbrie1rsvi2k4ak96i3c/1279022400000/05835411182615825942/05835411182615825942/0B8NfYpeXR_TANTcxMWNmNTEtZTBiYy00ODEyLWFmZTEtODZkODNjOWZlNjU2)

This is probably why people see Zach as Butters.

IMO Zach is way too funny, and not tweeky enough to be the Butters from the books.

I don't think TJ Thyne fits either. Too masculine. TJ Thyne to me is more of a......Michael type character probably, I mean because of his build, I don't know about the attitude though.
But people (or person) choose him for Butters too, because he plays a forensics guy on Bones.
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3400000/TJ-tj-thyne-3461816-516-768.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 13, 2010, 03:23:54 PM
I don't think TJ Thyne fits either. Too masculine.
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3400000/TJ-tj-thyne-3461816-516-768.jpg)

thin him up T.T I still vote TJ Thyne. :p
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 03:27:39 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 13, 2010, 03:29:29 PM
actually, my reason for thinking Zach for butters is because of Tru Calling. saw that dude with Tru in there and just thought immediately: BUTTERS!... so yeah

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 03:31:42 PM
I mean I can see the reasons why you would choose them, I just think Justin Long fits better than both of them.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 13, 2010, 03:52:43 PM
But people (or person) choose him for Butters too, because he plays a forensics guy on Bones.

yeah, actually, it's mostly that for me. I loved him in bones. he got the attitude down in bones, though, I thought.  :)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 13, 2010, 04:04:46 PM
But...

Don't you guys think that T.J. is a little too hot to portray Butters? I'm not saying Butters is ugly or anything, but based on how he talks about himself, he doesn't think he's any hot shit. And T.J.'s ridiculously good-looking, and knows it to boot. I don't know if I could buy T.J. talking himself down as Butters :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 13, 2010, 04:14:30 PM
Dude, just tell me what you want and I'll help :)

Are you still gonna continue the After The Funeral fic? I need something to tide me over until Aftermath, and it was doing a real good job of that!

Yeah, I'm going to continue Funeral (when not working on my novel) gradually between now and Ghost Story.  I'm excited to see the similarities between the two :)

As for the script, I'm thinking of doing things a bit 'out of order' - my ideal Dresden Files series would skip around in the order of the case files, to offer as comprehensive a look at the supernatural world as possible while highlighting the trials and tribulations of Harry and friends.  I'd probably skip over Storm Front, as, while a GREAT introductory novel, I don't think that it's got enough of a "hook" to it to succeed financially on a large scale.  I think that going straight into Fool Moon and working from there would be a better option, leaving the hints and jabs towards Storm Front as a sort of "Noodle Incident" to pique the viewer's interest for when it is eventually made (later in the series, as a prologue to the rest of the stories).

To that end, I aim to brush up on scriptwriting and the like in the near future before beginning work on a fan's version of it :) I've got some great ideas for a film version of "Fool Moon", and if anyone wants to discuss further outside of this Topic, feel free to drop me a PM.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 04:18:33 PM
But...

Don't you guys think that T.J. is a little too hot to portray Butters? I'm not saying Butters is ugly or anything, but based on how he talks about himself, he doesn't think he's any hot shit. And T.J.'s ridiculously good-looking, and knows it to boot. I don't know if I could buy T.J. talking himself down as Butters :-\

Bam!  :o

That's you hitting the nail on the head. That's what I was trying to say, ridiculously good looking for Butters.

I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. ~ Derek Zoolander

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 13, 2010, 04:28:20 PM
Bam!  :o

That's you hitting the nail on the head. That's what I was trying to say, ridiculously good looking for Butters.

I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. ~ Derek Zoolander



Hee! :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 13, 2010, 04:35:19 PM
Yeah, I'm going to continue Funeral (when not working on my novel) gradually between now and Ghost Story.  I'm excited to see the similarities between the two :)

As for the script, I'm thinking of doing things a bit 'out of order' - my ideal Dresden Files series would skip around in the order of the case files, to offer as comprehensive a look at the supernatural world as possible while highlighting the trials and tribulations of Harry and friends.  I'd probably skip over Storm Front, as, while a GREAT introductory novel, I don't think that it's got enough of a "hook" to it to succeed financially on a large scale.  I think that going straight into Fool Moon and working from there would be a better option, leaving the hints and jabs towards Storm Front as a sort of "Noodle Incident" to pique the viewer's interest for when it is eventually made (later in the series, as a prologue to the rest of the stories).

To that end, I aim to brush up on scriptwriting and the like in the near future before beginning work on a fan's version of it :) I've got some great ideas for a film version of "Fool Moon", and if anyone wants to discuss further outside of this Topic, feel free to drop me a PM.


I take it you mean that, during Fool Moon and the other case files, you would flash back to Storm Front the way Harry flashes back to the night DuMorne tried to kill him, and to what happened at Camp Kaboom with the twins? That might work, but I personally always liked Storm Front. It's not the first book of the series that I read (I did read them out of order -- Blood Rites was the first book I touched, and thus why it's my favorite), but I think flashing back to it in bits and pieces might actually work.

And also, yay for Funeral! .... which is very odd-sounding in retrospect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 13, 2010, 04:48:31 PM
I meant that more as the offhand references already in the later books ("That business last spring") would be supplemented with a little more nods in that direction, and such.  Nothing so overt as a flashback - doing such may detract from the story.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 05:54:09 PM
Mavra = Helena Bonham Carter
(http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/helena-bonham-carter.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 13, 2010, 05:55:07 PM
I concur.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 05:56:07 PM
Speaking of Helena Bonham Carter, did you know Tim Burton has been green lighted for a Wizard of Oz remake. Johnny Depp as the Scarecrow naturally.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 13, 2010, 05:59:02 PM
Urgh.  Depp is just annoying nowadays; he's stretching himself far too thin for my tastes.

Also - I did a short screenplay for how a theatrical trailer (2-3 minutes, I think) would play out, adapting Jim's short story, Vignette.  Here's a link:  I'd appreciate your comments on it! (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19655.msg868171.html#new)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 06:04:02 PM
Couple of interesting links regarding my last post.

Imagine Casting (http://imaginecasting.com/titles/results/2877/tim-burtons-the-wizard-of-oz/)
*found this site very interesting considering what this thread is all about.

Article on 3/8/10 (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/film/2010/03/08/hacking-imdb-a-sneak-peek-at-tim-burtons-forthcoming-wizard-of-oz/)

and I didn't know Tim Burton wrote the Pilot for Lost in Oz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_In_Oz).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 06:09:11 PM
Wizard of Oz cast according to article above.

Cast:

Winona Ryder … Dorothy Gale
Christopher Walken … Soothsayer/Wizard of Faux Poz
Johnny Depp … The Scarecrow
Ben Kingsley… The Lion
Hank Azaria … The Tin Man
Dame Judi Dench … Glinda
Helena Bonham Carter …The Wicked Witch
Andy Serkis … Toto
Steve Buscemi … Cattle Magnate
Deep Roy … Head of Lollipop Syndicate
Stephen Fry … Horse
Willem Defoe … Tree
Pete Postlethwaite … Wingèd Ape

very different than the poll here (http://imaginecasting.com/titles/results/2877/tim-burtons-the-wizard-of-oz/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 06:15:46 PM
http://imaginecasting.com/

I can't believe this site doesn't have Dresden Files. It has almost every Anne Rice book and King's Dark Tower, and even a FFVII cast. But no Dresden Files!?!

Some them are really old though. The Dark Tower one is from 2004. And I don't even want to vote with those people. They all think Peter Jackson should direct it.

*shudders

Peter Jackson is a fluke, he got lucky with LOTR, all other movies he helmed himself were not that great, and now Guillermo Del Toro is off the Hobbit movie and Peter Jackson is thinking of taking up the spot since he is already producing it. OMG! Hope he doesn't screw that up.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 13, 2010, 06:19:10 PM
Wizard of Oz cast according to article above.

Cast:

Winona Ryder … Dorothy Gale
Christopher Walken … Soothsayer/Wizard of Faux Poz
Johnny Depp … The Scarecrow
Ben Kingsley… The Lion
Hank Azaria … The Tin Man
Dame Judi Dench … Glinda
Helena Bonham Carter …The Wicked Witch
Andy Serkis … Toto
Steve Buscemi … Cattle Magnate
Deep Roy … Head of Lollipop Syndicate
Stephen Fry … Horse
Willem Defoe … Tree
Pete Postlethwaite … Wingèd Ape

very different than the poll here (http://imaginecasting.com/titles/results/2877/tim-burtons-the-wizard-of-oz/)

I could get beind Walken as OZ, but the rest...

HELL NO!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on July 13, 2010, 06:29:28 PM
Speaking of Helena Bonham Carter, did you know Tim Burton has been green lighted for a Wizard of Oz remake. Johnny Depp as the Scarecrow naturally.

Indeed...this might be Burton's cup of tea:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/film/2010/03/08/hacking-imdb-a-sneak-peek-at-tim-burtons-forthcoming-wizard-of-oz/ (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/film/2010/03/08/hacking-imdb-a-sneak-peek-at-tim-burtons-forthcoming-wizard-of-oz/)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 06:29:33 PM
I could get beind Walken as OZ, but the rest...

HELL NO!

That poll (http://imaginecasting.com/titles/results/2877/tim-burtons-the-wizard-of-oz/) actually had Anne Hathaway in the lead for Dorothy, but it would be kind of weird since Hathaway, Depp, and Carter were all in Alice in Wonderland.

and BTW, OZ isn't a person  :P

As far as getting behind Walken, I love Walken, but I think I'd rather be getting behind one of the women.  ;D

I could get behind Hathaway, ummmm!
(http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/anne-hathaway-header.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 13, 2010, 06:39:10 PM
That poll (http://imaginecasting.com/titles/results/2877/tim-burtons-the-wizard-of-oz/) actually had Anne Hathaway in the lead for Dorothy, but it would be kind of weird since Hathaway, Depp, and Carter were all in Alice in Wonderland.

and BTW, OZ isn't a person  :P

As far as getting behind Walken, I love Walken, but I think I'd rather be getting behind one of the women.  ;D

First, I don't care for either actress, so I don't care.

Second, "I am OZ, the Great and Terrible!"  I know he's the "Wizard of" Oz, but still.

Third, Bite Me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 06:48:54 PM
First, I don't care for either actress, so I don't care.

Second, "I am OZ, the Great and Terrible!"  I know he's the "Wizard of" Oz, but still.

Third, Bite Me.

Ha Ha!

You don't like those actresses? What!?! I thought Hathaway was pretty good in Alice in Wonderland. I actually think Hathaway or Ryder would be good choices granted they are about 10 years age difference.
(http://doc-0g-0g-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/secure/ct0u59s39dq6sqe84udh7u3ehq37nmo6/sm3i9n4c29l2enppqi6tjmoij90tt2cc/1279044000000/05835411182615825942/05835411182615825942/0B8NfYpeXR_TAOWU1Y2VhMzQtNzgxMy00NzBiLWJmYzQtOTZjM2UwZGQ1ZTRi)(http://www.ganeshaspeaks.com/blogImages/winona_ryder19.jpg)

It just dawned on me Winona and Depp were both in Edward Scissorhands. And Winona was in Beetlejuice too. And Depp and Carter are in almost every Tim Burton movie.

Did you want me to get behind you before I bite you. HAHAHA! I am just jerking your chain! Pun intended.

Seriously though, who would you cast as Dorothy?

I realize I am getting slightly off topic here, but just real quick, then back to Dresden Casting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 13, 2010, 08:34:40 PM
Urgh.  Depp is just annoying nowadays; he's stretching himself far too thin for my tastes.

Also - I did a short screenplay for how a theatrical trailer (2-3 minutes, I think) would play out, adapting Jim's short story, Vignette.  Here's a link:  I'd appreciate your comments on it! (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19655.msg868171.html#new)

Ha! Speaking of Depp I mention him in my comments about your trailer pitch.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 13, 2010, 09:16:51 PM
Mavra = Helena Bonham Carter
(http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/helena-bonham-carter.jpg)

Agree with this fully.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 14, 2010, 02:43:51 AM
Mavra = Helena Bonham Carter
(http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/helena-bonham-carter.jpg)

Ohhhhhkaaaay, getting back on track now, especially as this is perfect casting for THE DRESDEN FILES, and not a Tim Burton movie that is apparently already cast...

I agree with this fully. Helena Bonham Carter is deliciously eerie and flat out scary as fuck when she wants to be. I could definitely see her as Mavra.

And if not Mavra? Queen Mab :) HBC is eerily beautiful, and she's about the right height for Mab (as per her description in Changes -- Mab's about as tiny as Murphy, maybe tinier!) And hell, we all know HBC is quirky enough!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on July 14, 2010, 03:04:16 AM
Mavra = Helena Bonham Carter
(http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/helena-bonham-carter.jpg)
Definitely. I love Helena Bonham Carter and it would be great to have her in Dresden Files movies. Mavra would certainly be the best for her, but she could probably do Mab pretty well too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 14, 2010, 04:12:20 AM
Definitely. I love Helena Bonham Carter and it would be great to have her in Dresden Files movies. Mavra would certainly be the best for her, but she could probably do Mab pretty well too.
I don't know. I can't imagine her as Mab. :-? She doesn't scream chilly to me. Scary as hell, maybe. I vote Mavra for her, yeah.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 14, 2010, 04:50:42 AM
She's perfect for Mavra. I don't see her as Mab, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 14, 2010, 05:23:54 AM
Howzabout we cast Eliza Dushku in a role and make this a real Whedonverse reunion movie? What do you say? Who says:

Elaine?
Maeve?
Queen Mab herself?
Lara?
Georgia?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 14, 2010, 01:31:51 PM
Howzabout we cast Eliza Dushku in a role and make this a real Whedonverse reunion movie? What do you say? Who says:

Elaine?
Maeve?
Queen Mab herself?
Lara?
Georgia?

I think Eliza could do Elaine. I wanted to cast her somewhere in here, along with maybe Charisma Carpenter.

Alyson Hannigan could probably do Andi.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 14, 2010, 02:31:15 PM
I think Eliza could do Elaine. I wanted to cast her somewhere in here, along with maybe Charisma Carpenter.

Alyson Hannigan could probably do Andi.

Hah, it'd probably be fun for Aly to play a werewolf since she spent so many years on BtVS dating one :)

And I'd love for Charisma to be a part of the cast! Maybe we can get her to be Lara?

And my very first thought for Eliza was for her to portray Elaine. Which is really funny to me, b/c I have Alexis Denisof playing Harry.

By the way, I'm still wibbling about my decision for Murphy, but I think I'm leaning hardcore toward SMG.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 14, 2010, 03:12:07 PM
Hah, it'd probably be fun for Aly to play a werewolf since she spent so many years on BtVS dating one :)

And I'd love for Charisma to be a part of the cast! Maybe we can get her to be Lara?

And my very first thought for Eliza was for her to portray Elaine. Which is really funny to me, b/c I have Alexis Denisof playing Harry.

By the way, I'm still wibbling about my decision for Murphy, but I think I'm leaning hardcore toward SMG.

Man, Allyson fits Andi's description perfectly. Even though, she has a very small part, it would be fun to see it.

maybeee, I don't really see Charisma as Lara, though, but I don't remember any other suggest for the role.

Eliza as Elaine is sort of perfect, IMO.

As for Murphy, I want to say SMG, but I'm thinking Kristen Bell, nao.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 14, 2010, 04:05:27 PM
I guess I am not a big Whedon fan. Not saying I have anything against it, I just never really got into any of his stuff. I watched maybe 30 of the 144 episodes of BtVS. I never watched Firefly, and I saw maybe one or two episodes of both Angel and Dollhouse. It's not that I didn't like them, just never got into them.

With that said. I would not like to see a Dresden Movie cast with the frequent Whedon actors. Not to mention that we are comparing a TV show cast to a Movie Cast. Granted most these actors have faired well on the silver screen, I would like to see a new mix of characters that can't really be associated with a group of unrelated characters.

I am glad that a couple people actually like my Kristen Bell pick for Murphy though even I admit she seems just slightly young. But I admit SMG would be a good choice too.

I don't see Charisma as Lara at all. I kind of have Famke Janssen (http://www.tsbmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/famke_janssen_3.jpg) pegged here. Or maybe Kate Beckinsale (http://www.joblo.com/images_arrownews/beckinsale1212.jpg) though that choice would obviously be heavily influenced by her role in Underworld.

I like Eliza Dushku, she isn't quite how I pictured Elaine, but it could work, IMO it depends on who plays Harry, and the chemistry between the two actors.

Alyson Hannigan (http://fxpaper.fatalsystem.com/images/wallpapers/celebs/alyson-hannigan/alyson_hannigan_9.jpg).....YES! I have always been a fan, American Pie though, not really because of BtVS. Something about her really strikes me, but Ally is married to Alexis Denisof, this really would turn into a Whedonverse reunion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 14, 2010, 04:42:08 PM
Heh, MoSeS_ you have to remember that JB is a Whedonhead, too. And ultimately, I make the suggestions, but bow down before his choices :) He wants Alexis Denisof to play Harry? Then Alexis is on my personal fan list. I just think it'd be comedic to have his wife and former costar, plus all his other former costars making cameos and the like :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 14, 2010, 04:52:26 PM
Heh, MoSeS_ you have to remember that JB is a Whedonhead, too. And ultimately, I make the suggestions, but bow down before his choices :) He wants Alexis Denisof to play Harry? Then Alexis is on my personal fan list. I just think it'd be comedic to have his wife and former costar, plus all his other former costars making cameos and the like :)

It would be comedic, that's what I would be afraid of.

I realize Dream Casting is just for the fun of it, hence my African-American Cast (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.msg852590.html#msg852590)(which is awsome BTW) and Asian Cast (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.msg855025.html#msg855025).

At the same time though I am thinking if they really released a movie in theaters with the Whedonverse cast, it would bomb. I am not saying that in a malicious way, but honestly Whedonverse and Dresdenverse are both cult followings, and that cast would not draw in the General Public which would make this a blockbuster bust rather than a hit, and it would probably end the movie franchise right there.

I kind of went into related detail about a potential movie trailer in the "fan film" trailer script thread (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19655.msg869220.html#msg869220) posted yesterday.

Point being it would be NEAT to see that cast, but also potentially fatal to a potential movie franchise.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 15, 2010, 02:44:44 PM
I get it. My mental image of murph is Mariska Hargitay. (http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/original/0000034394_20061020195252.jpg)

sort of. it comes from watching too much Law and Order SVU >.<
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CHAR2056 on July 15, 2010, 06:49:11 PM
This thought pop in my head and I need to purge it so I'm giving it to all of you.

For Dresden have James Caviezel, so when they do Dead Beat we have Jesus riding a dinosaur. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 15, 2010, 10:56:33 PM
This thought pop in my head and I need to purge it so I'm giving it to all of you.

For Dresden have James Caviezel, so when they do Dead Beat we have Jesus riding a dinosaur. :P

*dies*

Oh my God. LOL.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 16, 2010, 12:32:22 AM
This thought pop in my head and I need to purge it so I'm giving it to all of you.

For Dresden have James Caviezel, so when they do Dead Beat we have Jesus riding a dinosaur. :P

O.O

xD xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 16, 2010, 01:50:22 AM

Point being it would be NEAT to see that cast, but also potentially fatal to a potential movie franchise.

And all of this would be why half of the actors and actresses we have listed would never be chosen.

But still, there's nothing wrong with fantasy casting. A bunch of people have said they've wanted James Marsters to portray a role in the movie, whether it's as Harry, or Bob or someone else, and yet again, Marsters has a large role in the Whedonverse. Never mind the fact that Marsters as Harry is never going to happen (unless he willingly wears lifts to achieve the right height :-\ ), he has fans, and people want to associate his face and voice with a character they love that he portrays, even if he only portrays it in an audio book.

And there's nothing wrong with it being comedic, just so long as the comedy doesn't overtake the majority theme and urgency of the movie. So here's hoping M. Night Shyamalan is never tapped to direct it, because based on what he did with The Last Airbender, comedy isn't even a factor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 16, 2010, 02:21:24 AM
Well hey, at least we know it would be Alexis Denisof as Harry and Erica Cera as Susan.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 16, 2010, 02:32:12 AM
Well hey, at least we know it would be Alexis Denisof as Harry and Erica Cera as Susan.  :)

Very true :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 16, 2010, 01:09:44 PM
Well hey, at least we know it would be Alexis Denisof as Harry and Erica Cera as Susan.  :)

Erica Cera has recently broken into the silver screen with Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief, I don't know if that movie sucked or not, but nonetheless she has made the transition, so it gives her clout to play Susan in a movie adaptation.

Denisof....... ??? Don't get me wrong, I think he fits the part, but in reality, the general public would not go watch a movie "starring" Alexis Denisof, he isn't that established. Additionally Denisof is 44, if your going to go that old might as well cast Clive Owen or Hugh Jackman and draw in the crowd. On the other hand the younger Ryan Renolds and Chris Evans are also Hollywood, and would draw in the crowd too. Admittedly my choice would be Lee Pace. I would say here or Zachary Quinto but he isn't snarky enough.

Which is precisely why this is called "fantasy/dream casting" and not "reality casting"  :P

*and my two cents about who Butcher picks is this, what author has ever had control over who was cast for their book to movie adaptations? none, because they are authors not movie producers/directors. You think J.K. Rowling got to pick the cast for Harry Potter? How about J. R. R. Tolkien?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 16, 2010, 01:39:11 PM
Erica Cerra as Susan.  :)

eh? why her?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 16, 2010, 01:41:51 PM
eh? why her?

Well I was just agreeing that she could pull it off since that was Jim's choice.
*see above for my opinion on Jim's choices.

But she wouldn't have been my first choice. I would have went with like Roselyn Sanchez....maybe, she does action fairly well, alla Rush Hour 2.
(http://c.complex.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/roselyn-sanchez04210805.jpg)

I like Eva Longoria but she doesn't fit the role.
And no one better dare suggest Jennifer Lopez or Eva Mendes. *yak* I can't stand Eva Mendes, Ghost Rider was bad enough, but she was the icing on the cake. And why is she always shiny, is her skin really oily, that's gross.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 16, 2010, 01:43:06 PM
Well I was just agreeing that she could pull it off since that was Jim's choice. But she wouldn't have been my first choice.

ohhhhhh she's jim's choice... I didn't know, that's why I asked. :D

awwww, this time, I don't see it in my mind's eye. heh. xD but, hey, she's jim's choice, so. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on July 16, 2010, 03:41:59 PM
*and my two cents about who Butcher picks is this, what author has ever had control over who was cast for their book to movie adaptations? none, because they are authors not movie producers/directors. You think J.K. Rowling got to pick the cast for Harry Potter? How about J. R. R. Tolkien?
I remember watching a few interviews in which Jim talks about some things that he wishes he had more control over. He barely has any control over the book covers, odds are he won't have much imput for the casting of a movie (he certainly didn't for the tv show).
Also, part of the reason Tolkien had no input ont eh LOTR cast was that he's not exactly alive anymore, but even if he was, doubt he'd have had any say in the casting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 16, 2010, 03:48:14 PM
umm, anout the rowling thing, she sort of did, in fact, shes the reason snape is rickman, and most of the other cast was a,so her personal choice, she had final say on the scripts too, in fact, she helped write 1,2, and 3. i dont know about the new ones but yeah. oh and tolkien was dead so, thats given that he didnt pick the cast. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 16, 2010, 03:50:21 PM
I stand by Jim's choice of Denisof and Cerra though- both are capable actors and just because their names aren't well-known, doesn't mean you need to go cast a 'big' actor like Hugh Jackman who has already tried a film like this.

This is fantasy casting though.  :D

EDIT: Several writers do get to chose the actors they would like to associate with the film and they do have to usually approve of the script that is written. It is also up with them to colloborate with the director/producer if they want too, which often saves the movie from being crap.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 16, 2010, 05:55:19 PM
I stand by Jim's choice of Denisof and Cerra though- both are capable actors and just because their names aren't well-known, doesn't mean you need to go cast a 'big' actor like Hugh Jackman who has already tried a film like this.

This is fantasy casting though.  :D

EDIT: Several writers do get to chose the actors they would like to associate with the film and they do have to usually approve of the script that is written. It is also up with them to colloborate with the director/producer if they want too, which often saves the movie from being crap.

As these things go I am sure the film studio/directors/producers run it by the author, but once a studio has the rights they pretty much get to take it from there, running it by the author is probably just for some constructive feedback or a courtesy.

But I don't disagree with the studio doing the casting. They make movies, it's what they are good at. Authors write books, it's what they are good at. Sure the author might have some good casting ideas and the studio might follow through on it, but ultimately I don't think it's going to matter who the author wants to play the parts.

Also when you say WRITERS get to choose the actors, are we talking about authors whose book is being adapted into a movie, or are you talking script/screen writer? Many directors have "written" their own movies.

Anyhow, I hope a good studio gets the movie rights after Lions Gate, and hopefully they cast some big time actors and actresses, and it becomes as big as Harry Potter.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 16, 2010, 06:20:17 PM
I think what's more important than casting the characters........who should direct it?

Guillermo del Toro (Hellboy) :D
Christopher Nolan (Dark Knight, Prestige) ;D
James Cameron (Avatar) think about the special effects :)
Bryan Singer (Xmen, Superman, Battlestar Galactica 2011) 8)
Peter Jackson (LOTR) not a great director IMHO, got lucky w/LOTR :-X
Ridley Scott (Blade Runner, Gladiator) :-\
George Lucas (Star Wars) yeah, maybe 20 years ago :'(
Gore Verbinski (POTC 1,2,3) ::)
Sam Raimi (Army of Darkness, Spiderman) Drag me to Hell SUCKED BIG TIME! >:(
Michael Bay (Armageddon, Pearl Harbor, Transformers) lots of explosions :-[
Stephen Speilburg :-\
Wachowski Brothers (Matrix) :)
Robert Rodriguez (Sin City) ;D
Quinton Tarantino (Pulp Fiction) :D
Danny Boyle (28 Days Later, Slumdog Millionaire) ;)
M. Night Shyamalan (The Last Airbender) :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 16, 2010, 06:39:58 PM
Quote
Also when you say WRITERS get to choose the actors, are we talking about authors whose book is being adapted into a movie, or are you talking script/screen writer? Many directors have "written" their own movies.

That's what I'm talking about. If a director wants to make the movie faithful to the fans, he can if he thinks he needs the input, call in the author of the book and ask them for advice. They don't have to follow it all or even call up the author in the first place, but a lot of directors do want things to be faithful to the books.

As for the directors you mention... Robert Rodriguez or the Wachowski bros.  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 16, 2010, 08:00:37 PM
I love Rodriguez, but don't you think it would be too gritty? Planet Terror, Sin City, Desperado, Machete.
and other Trouble Maker Studios films like Predators (2010) which I thought was pretty great BTW, kind of goes back to the roots and getting away from the AVP movies of late.

And Wachowski bros (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wachowski_brothers#Filmography). IDK, they might have been a one hit wonder. (Matrix 2 and 3 weren't really that great)
And I guess we can't call them bros. anymore since Larry is now Lana.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 16, 2010, 08:25:33 PM
I love Rodriguez, but don't you think it would be too gritty? Planet Terror, Sin City, Desperado, Machete.
and other Trouble Maker Studios films like Predators (2010) which I thought was pretty great BTW, kind of goes back to the roots and getting away from the AVP movies of late.

And Wachowski bros (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wachowski_brothers#Filmography). IDK, they might have been a one hit wonder. (Matrix 2 and 3 weren't really that great)
And I guess we can't call them bros. anymore since Larry is now Lana.

Yeah, Dresden isn't really gritty, but I think Rodriguez could make the magic happen. He could also capture the Noir-style I think better, then any other director I can think of.

Well, they did do V for Vendetta which was really good.


and lol you're right.  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 16, 2010, 08:37:10 PM
Yeah, Dresden isn't really gritty, but I think Rodriguez could make the magic happen. He could also capture the Noir-style I think better, then any other director I can think of.

Well, they did do V for Vendetta which was really good.
 
and lol you're right.  :P

I want to agree with Rodriguez because I love his work, but I kind of think maybe Del Toro because of Pans Labyrinth and Hellboy, they both had good costumes/character design and cinematography.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 16, 2010, 09:15:38 PM
tarintino writes scenes, Nolon does cinematography, and del toro does the sets of the nevernever
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 16, 2010, 09:57:46 PM
It would be awesome to have del toro do designs for all the supernatural beings.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 16, 2010, 11:06:05 PM

M. Night Shyamalan (The Last Airbender) :P

No. No. No. No. NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!

In short -- No.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 16, 2010, 11:09:33 PM
No. No. No. No. NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!

In short -- No.
An amazing director, but no, and i am not interested to see that film, and if he did dresden i would be dispointed
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 16, 2010, 11:30:02 PM
I'm sorry, but Shymalan an amazing director? Sixth Sense, and Unbreakable were his only really, good films. Signs was okay. The Village and Lady in the Water were bad. Then came the Happening, and he lost the little credibility he had. Airbender has pretty much condemned his film career if you ask me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 16, 2010, 11:54:15 PM
I've never understood the hoopla over M. Night Shamalamadingdong's films. They're... meh. Freaky weird for the sake of being freaky weird. Put the freaky weird in service of the story and I'll dig it, but... eurgh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 17, 2010, 12:34:20 AM
(http://marzdailymedia.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/brownclancy.jpg)
This is old news, but man, I like Jim's choice of Clancy Brown to play Morgan. He's like 6'3, and has the voice for the role and everything.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 17, 2010, 01:23:30 AM
You have to ad,it that the plot of lady in the water was pretty good, and it was an alright movie, the villiage was a  decent movie, it actuslly scared me. as for the happening, that i enjoyed (im an enviormentlist...so yeah. and my drunk friend peeing his pants made it awesome) it wasnt the best written, but i enjoyed it. it was a good lots watch things die. the probablem with M. night is, he cannot advertize for crap. he dressed up lady in the water as a horror, and he built up the happening way to much. although del toro, lynch, nolan, and cameron are waaaay better. although cameron while awesome, also cannot write all that well. luc besson is also amazing
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 17, 2010, 01:40:25 AM
You have to ad,it that the plot of lady in the water was pretty good, and it was an alright movie, the villiage was a  decent movie, it actuslly scared me. as for the happening, that i enjoyed (im an enviormentlist...so yeah. and my drunk friend peeing his pants made it awesome) it wasnt the best written, but i enjoyed it. it was a good lots watch things die. the probablem with M. night is, he cannot advertize for crap. he dressed up lady in the water as a horror, and he built up the happening way to much. although del toro, lynch, nolan, and cameron are waaaay better. although cameron while awesome, also cannot write all that well. luc besson is also amazing

I want bash what you're saying simply because I respect your opinion. I just don't really like M. Night's movies (despite the fact that I always watch them). I didn't go see Airbender though, mainly because it got negative reviews like most of his recent films and I heard it sucked from a friend.

I've also been trying to find an actor who could play Martin. Then it hit me. Who is the most bland, unemotional man in hollywood?
(http://www.bostonpaternity.com/blog/themes/dna/images/keanu_reeves_paternity_suit.jpg)
Keanu Reeves of course.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 17, 2010, 02:06:49 AM
You know, Reeves does have the face that I've always pictured for Martin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 17, 2010, 02:16:23 AM
You know, Reeves does have the face that I've always pictured for Martin.
I was sort of joking around when I first thought of him as Martin, but then thought of Reeves. The role would be a piece of cake for him. He acts bland in the movies where he is supposed to be exciting.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 17, 2010, 02:28:28 AM
I want bash what you're saying simply because I respect your opinion. I just don't really like M. Night's movies (despite the fact that I always watch them). I didn't go see Airbender though, mainly because it got negative reviews like most of his recent films and I heard it sucked from a friend.

I've also been trying to find an actor who could play Martin. Then it hit me. Who is the most bland, unemotional man in hollywood?
(http://www.bostonpaternity.com/blog/themes/dna/images/keanu_reeves_paternity_suit.jpg)
Keanu Reeves of course.

Oh. Dear. God.

And I saw Airbender. And it made me weep on the inside. The cartoon, and all of the original characters in the cartoon are crying havoc. I liked The Sixth Sense when it came out, though that was only because Bruce Willis amuses me, and I like watching him. But I don't think I've watching a single M. Night movie except for Signs since then. They just all looked so stupid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 17, 2010, 02:32:49 AM
(http://marzdailymedia.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/brownclancy.jpg)
This is old news, but man, I like Jim's choice of Clancy Brown to play Morgan. He's like 6'3, and has the voice for the role and everything.

Dude, I can swing with this. Just make him grow his hair out, and get him some Just For Men Touch Of Grey for when he does :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 17, 2010, 02:37:18 AM
An amazing director, but no, and i am not interested to see that film, and if he did dresden i would be dispointed

If ANY one thinks to tap him to do Dresden, lo will I cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war on Hollywood. I WILL HURT SOMEONE. No one, least of all some dumbass Hollywood exec and a filmmaker that apparently doesn't know what he's really doing, is going to ruin my favorite book series, dammit!

*reins in the rage and breathes*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 17, 2010, 03:01:31 AM
Unbreakable was Shymalan's best movie IMO, besides Sixth Sense. It's seriously underrated...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 17, 2010, 03:09:39 AM
I want bash what you're saying simply because I respect your opinion. I just don't really like M. Night's movies (despite the fact that I always watch them). I didn't go see Airbender though, mainly because it got negative reviews like most of his recent films and I heard it sucked from a friend.

I've also been trying to find an actor who could play Martin. Then it hit me. Who is the most bland, unemotional man in hollywood?
(http://www.bostonpaternity.com/blog/themes/dna/images/keanu_reeves_paternity_suit.jpg)
Keanu Reeves of course.
i can totaly see this
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on July 17, 2010, 03:27:07 AM
Dude, I can swing with this. Just make him grow his hair out, and get him some Just For Men Touch Of Grey for when he does :D
Nah, Morgan is suppose to be old enough that he has a few grey hairs. Though longer hair would be good.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 17, 2010, 04:42:47 AM
i can totaly see this

Seriously, his eyes always freaked me out. They're, like.... dead. Like Clay Aiken's eyes. It's creepy. *shudders*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 17, 2010, 04:47:11 AM
Nah, Morgan is suppose to be old enough that he has a few grey hairs. Though longer hair would be good.

That's why I said Just for Men: Touch Of Grey. It lets men who are going grey actually keep a majority of the gray color while giving them back some of their natural color :) Morgan was, what? 145 or so? That translates to somewhere around 50 to 60 years of age in normal Vanilla Mortal years? Yeah, he'd be right at the point of going grey, but with still enough color in his hair to make it obvious that he's not THAT over the hill :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 17, 2010, 12:39:27 PM
(http://marzdailymedia.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/brownclancy.jpg)
This is old news, but man, I like Jim's choice of Clancy Brown to play Morgan. He's like 6'3, and has the voice for the role and everything.

I keep imagining morgan to be a little more... stern looking.

YES, Keanu Reeves would be creepily perfect for martin. Who scares me, btw. both of them do.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 17, 2010, 12:45:26 PM
I keep imagining morgan to be a little more... stern looking.


You ever see the first Highlander movie? The Kurgan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 17, 2010, 12:50:46 PM
You ever see the first Highlander movie? The Kurgan?

nope!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 17, 2010, 01:38:04 PM
Aw, yes.

I can see it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 17, 2010, 01:58:59 PM
I keep imagining morgan to be a little more... stern looking.

YES, Keanu Reeves would be creepily perfect for martin. Who scares me, btw. both of them do.

Dude, just look at his eyes and imagine him without the slight smile on his face. He's freaking perfect. And scary.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 17, 2010, 03:19:10 PM
(http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/photosizer/upload/brown050109.jpg)

...I See it now.

yes, yes he would be perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on July 17, 2010, 03:46:54 PM
Several writers do get to chose the actors they would like to associate with the film and they do have to usually approve of the script that is written. It is also up with them to colloborate with the director/producer if they want too, which often saves the movie from being crap.

What it really comes down to, I think, is how much fan based pull has the author got in the marketplace and how big the author's negotiating lawyers cajones are.

Bottom line, if creative control is that important to the author, they will say NO to signing away their rights to consult on choosing the actors. They may not get the final say, but they CAN retain the right to fight for the authenticity of their conceptualization. (big words for pick they guy they imagined playing the role when they wrote it, I know...  ::))
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 17, 2010, 03:50:18 PM
What it really comes down to, I think, is how much fan based pull has the author got in the marketplace and how big the author's negotiating lawyers cajones are.

Bottom line, if creative control is that important to the author, they will say NO to signing away their rights to consult on choosing the actors. They may not get the final say, but they CAN retain the right to fight for the authenticity of their conceptualization. (big words for pick they guy they imagined playing the role when they wrote it, I know...  ::))

wouldn't it be lucky if the producer/director is a huge fan of the books, is a good friend of the author and is willing to give leeway for the author's requests when it comes to the actors and the production and the like?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jadis402010 on July 18, 2010, 06:50:53 PM
I think I'm going to have to change my vote for Harry from Clive Owen to Alexis Denisof...didn't recognize the name until I saw his picture...I can completely see Wesley from BtVS and Angel, especially season 5 Angel, as Harry. One question though, I'm not sure it's ever explicitly stated in the books, but how old is Harry, especially in Storm Front? In my mind I'm thinking maybe early to mid-30's? So, you may need someone younger.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 18, 2010, 07:21:34 PM
Keanu used to amuse me, i mean he wasnt ever a good actor but after the whole "I am the one" scene, i could never trinity serious again...ever.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 18, 2010, 08:38:03 PM
I think I'm going to have to change my vote for Harry from Clive Owen to Alexis Denisof...didn't recognize the name until I saw his picture...I can completely see Wesley from BtVS and Angel, especially season 5 Angel, as Harry. One question though, I'm not sure it's ever explicitly stated in the books, but how old is Harry, especially in Storm Front? In my mind I'm thinking maybe early to mid-30's? So, you may need someone younger.

At the beginning of Storm Front, Jim says that Harry is in his mid-20s, so anywhere between the back end of the 24 to 27 spectrum. Jim also says that Harry is a year younger than him [Jim, that is] in Changes. Jim's birthyear is 1971 which makes him 39, so Harry's 38 :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 18, 2010, 08:39:52 PM
I saw Inception, today.

I was a little skeptical of Ellen Page playing Molly, but now I think she pull it off. There are a lot of problems with that though. She doesn't fit the description of Molly, albeit better then Fanning, and would be too old to grow with the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 19, 2010, 02:09:10 AM
I saw Inception, today.

I was a little skeptical of Ellen Page playing Molly, but now I think she pull it off. There are a lot of problems with that though. She doesn't fit the description of Molly, albeit better then Fanning, and would be too old to grow with the role.

Which is why I now point you dead right at my new choice(s) for Molly:

Molly Carpenter -- Sammi Hanratty (http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/v/6/v6fi256yd7uffuy.jpg) (younger Molly)/ Deborah Ann Woll (http://www.poptower.com/images/db/10130/450/450/deborah-ann-woll.jpg) (Molly circa PG to Changes)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 19, 2010, 02:19:44 AM
Which is why I now point you dead right at my new choice(s) for Molly:

Molly Carpenter -- Sammi Hanratty (http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/v/6/v6fi256yd7uffuy.jpg) (younger Molly)/ Deborah Ann Woll (http://www.poptower.com/images/db/10130/450/450/deborah-ann-woll.jpg) (Molly circa PG to Changes)

I like Deborah as Molly, but I haven't seen Sammi Hanratty do much actually. Well I've usually see her in a cameo or on one episode of a Disney show, but has she done anything, serious?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 19, 2010, 02:29:32 AM
At the beginning of Storm Front, Jim says that Harry is in his mid-20s, so anywhere between the back end of the 24 to 27 spectrum. Jim also says that Harry is a year younger than him [Jim, that is] in Changes. Jim's birthyear is 1971 which makes him 39, so Harry's 38 :)

Alexis can probably pull that age off, easy. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 19, 2010, 02:34:36 AM
Alexis can probably pull that age off, easy. :D

It suprises me to no end that Alexis Denisof is in his forties. 33
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 19, 2010, 04:10:18 AM
It suprises me to no end that Alexis Denisof is in his forties. 33
wait, do you mean 43 or 33?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 19, 2010, 04:29:00 AM
wait, do you mean 43 or 33?

43    .  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 19, 2010, 04:40:38 AM
Oh okay, thanks for clearing that up  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 01:34:00 PM
MUWAHAHA! I love that I got a rise out of everyone by suggesting M Night. I knew that with the recent opinions on Last Airbender that his name was bound to stir something up. HAHAHA!


...I like Jim's choice of Clancy Brown to play Morgan.
Yes, I still think Stephen Lang might fit this role a little better, but Clancy Brown was fanatic (and fantastic) in Highlander, and he was a pretty good Sgt in Starship Troopers (one of my favorite movies despite what others think)

Luc Besson is also amazing
Yes, Luc is one of my favorites, I thought about him when making the list, but I couldn't seriously see him doing DF, he has such a different feel to his movies, for example, Fifth Element, Unleashed, District B-13, The Professional.....I don't know, maybe he could....

I saw Inception, today.
I was a little skeptical of Ellen Page playing Molly, but now I think she pull it off. There are a lot of problems with that though. She doesn't fit the description of Molly, albeit better then Fanning, and would be too old to grow with the role.
I still vote a big fat NO to Ellen Page, but that's just me, I don't care to see her (or her fivehead (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Ellen_Page_at_TIFF_2009_cropped.jpg)) in anything.
And why we still hatin' on Fanning. I think everyone will be agreeing with me in a year or two.

Which is why I now point you dead right at my new choice(s) for Molly:
Molly Carpenter -- Sammi Hanratty (http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/v/6/v6fi256yd7uffuy.jpg) (younger Molly)/ Deborah Ann Woll (http://www.poptower.com/images/db/10130/450/450/deborah-ann-woll.jpg) (Molly circa PG to Changes)
Deborah Ann Woll would be great, but they would have to hurry up and get to like Proven Guilty or somewhere around there so they could transition to Woll. IMO it might be a little too late for Woll to play Molly considering 12 books so far, so Woll would be like 28+ when Molly hits like 17. However she could also be a great Lea.

At the beginning of Storm Front, Jim says that Harry is in his mid-20s, so anywhere between the back end of the 24 to 27 spectrum. Jim also says that Harry is a year younger than him [Jim, that is] in Changes. Jim's birthyear is 1971 which makes him 39, so Harry's 38 :)
This is kind of why I disagree with Alexis Denisof (44). Yeah sure he fits Harry perfectly at the current part in the series, but Denisoff playing 24-27 year old.......I don't know, that's really stretching. IMHO I think the actors age should be a little more authentic, and should at least come close to the character. I think a good rule of thumb would be no more than 10 years older than the characters age (at whatever point in the story).

Of course I try to be realistic in my fake casting.  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on July 19, 2010, 03:51:54 PM
See, what every one forgets is, the burger king scene, it felt like a tarrintino film. i misspelled his name huh?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 19, 2010, 04:10:52 PM
I like Deborah as Molly, but I haven't seen Sammi Hanratty do much actually. Well I've usually see her in a cameo or on one episode of a Disney show, but has she done anything, serious?

Well, her filmography  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammi_Hanratty#Filmography)on Wikipedia says she's been in a few movies (PoTC: Dead Man's Chest), and that she's been on Charmed, CSI, Cold Case and House :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 19, 2010, 04:12:26 PM
Alexis can probably pull that age off, easy. :D

Agreed!! He doesn't even look like he's in his forties, honestly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 19, 2010, 04:52:45 PM
Well, her filmography  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammi_Hanratty#Filmography)on Wikipedia says she's been in a few movies (PoTC: Dead Man's Chest)

whut? who was she in there? I know that movie a lot - I was a fan. O.o who was she in there?

ah... extra. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 05:03:28 PM
Harry and Thomas
(http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/justin_timberlake.jpg)(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20081009/293.pattinson.rob.100908.jpg)
They could totally be brothers.  8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 19, 2010, 05:04:37 PM
Harry and Thomas
(http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/justin_timberlake.jpg)(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20081009/293.pattinson.rob.100908.jpg)
They could totally be brothers.


actually, this would be an interesting casting.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 05:08:12 PM
actually, this would be an interesting casting.

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Totally serious
(http://g1wallz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/why-so-serious1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 19, 2010, 05:09:59 PM
Totally serious.

Actually yes, yes I am.

maybe it's because it's one in the morning and I'm still not sleeping that screwing with my brain, but I would go watch it if this was the cast.

Although I'd hope that RPattz play less constipated looks on his face and more actual emotion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 05:12:02 PM
...maybe it's because it's one in the morning and I'm still not sleeping that screwing with my brain...

Wow! that's exactly 12 hours opposite the time here.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 19, 2010, 05:13:57 PM
Wow! that's exactly 12 hours opposite the time here.

mrm, I figured. :p I know the timezones in US, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 05:57:30 PM
But there is more than one time zone in US (http://www.yokomoji.com/en/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/us-time-zone-map.gif).

There are 6 if you count Alaska and Hawaii.  :P

Which one am I in? without looking at my profile.  :-\
If I were in California i would only be 9 hours difference instead of 12. Hawaii would only be 6 hours difference. My mom is from Mindinao.

Go Pac-Man!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 19, 2010, 06:33:45 PM
actually, this would be an interesting casting.

(click to show/hide)

Don't be cruel to the fans, Jaeh :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 06:42:09 PM
Don't be cruel to the fans, Jaeh :)

Which fans are we talking about, Dresden fans?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on July 19, 2010, 07:10:03 PM
Harry and Thomas
(http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/justin_timberlake.jpg)(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20081009/293.pattinson.rob.100908.jpg)
They could totally be brothers.  8)

You're starting to scare me... *shivers*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 19, 2010, 07:52:24 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 19, 2010, 08:00:01 PM
Which fans are we talking about, Dresden fans?

Maybe I should rephrase -- don't be cruel to mankind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on July 19, 2010, 08:32:08 PM
Maybe I should rephrase -- don't be cruel to mankind.
There are plenty of women (and Gay or Bi men) who would love such a casting.
That and since Harry can not go a book without getting beaten to hell, everyone who hates JT would get a nice spectacle.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 19, 2010, 08:34:23 PM
There are plenty of women (and Gay or Bi men) who would love such a casting.
That and since Harry can not go a book without getting beaten to hell, everyone who hates JT would get a nice spectacle.

Hah! ;D

Still, though. I would never do that to Thomas and Harry. I love those characters too much.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 19, 2010, 08:34:39 PM
There are plenty of women (and Gay or Bi men) who would love such a casting.
 

Not any who appreciate good acting ability. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 08:49:48 PM
There are plenty of women (and Gay or Bi men) who would love such a casting.
Harry = Justin Timberlake
Thomas = Robert Pattinson
Waldo Butters = Jonathan Rhys Meyers
(http://www.stardustmovies.com/gallery_attore/(300309195521)jonathan_rhys_meyers_3.jpg)
Morgan = Chris Pine
(http://www.vanityfair.com/images/culture/2009/05/chris-pine-0905-ps01.jpg)
Marcone = James McAvoy
(http://tagalishus.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/james-mcavoy.jpg)
Michael = Chris Evans
(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080226/Chris_Evans_l.jpg)
Arthur Langtry = Jake Gyllenhaal
(http://dailymishmash.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/sagittarius-jake-gyllenhaal.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 19, 2010, 08:53:28 PM
Now I have to do the female roles. Hum........
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on July 19, 2010, 09:35:23 PM
Harry and Thomas
(http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/justin_timberlake.jpg)

Guess who's voicing Boo-Boo to Dan Aykroyd's Yogi Bear in the CGI'd cartoon/live action movie?

Bear in mind that Aykroyd can't imitate voices to save his life; his Jimmy Carter was watered down immensely.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 19, 2010, 09:56:42 PM
Guess who's voicing Boo-Boo to Dan Aykroyd's Yogi Bear in the CGI'd cartoon/live action movie?

Bear in mind that Aykroyd can't imitate voices to save his life; his Jimmy Carter was watered down immensely.

Guess who's doing what?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on July 19, 2010, 10:00:15 PM
Guess who's doing what?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1302067/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1302067/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on July 19, 2010, 11:16:58 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1302067/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1302067/)

Oh great...Anna Faris hasn't got another Scary Movie film, or maybe House Bunny 2?

She's gonna be in Ghostbusters 3?

I'll bring the slime...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 20, 2010, 12:01:19 AM
But there is more than one time zone in US (http://www.yokomoji.com/en/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/us-time-zone-map.gif).

There are 6 if you count Alaska and Hawaii.  :P

Which one am I in? without looking at my profile.  :-\
If I were in California i would only be 9 hours difference instead of 12. Hawaii would only be 6 hours difference. My mom is from Mindinao.

Go Pac-Man!

you're prolly somewhere from around NY, or NH or something. can't be sure. :p all I know is I know a couple of people with the same timezone as yours. :p

Harry = Justin Timberlake
Thomas = Robert Pattinson
Waldo Butters = Jonathan Rhys Meyers
(http://www.stardustmovies.com/gallery_attore/(300309195521)jonathan_rhys_meyers_3.jpg)
Morgan = Chris Pine
(http://www.vanityfair.com/images/culture/2009/05/chris-pine-0905-ps01.jpg)
Marcone = James McAvoy
(http://tagalishus.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/james-mcavoy.jpg)
Michael = Chris Evans
(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080226/Chris_Evans_l.jpg)
Arthur Langtry = Jake Gyllenhaal
(http://dailymishmash.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/sagittarius-jake-gyllenhaal.jpg)

whoa Estrogen Brigade Bait.

I'll lock myself in their dorm. They do get a dorm, right? Might have to kick out RPattz first. Not really that fond of him since Twilight.

....that said, I wouldn't pay to see this movie. I'll just go wthell with the casting :p they do well individually. together the movie theaters would blow up. with fangirls and other Eldritch Abominations. the world will end. :p
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 20, 2010, 02:18:03 AM
Guess who's voicing Boo-Boo to Dan Aykroyd's Yogi Bear in the CGI'd cartoon/live action movie?

Bear in mind that Aykroyd can't imitate voices to save his life; his Jimmy Carter was watered down immensely.

Oh, god, this is live action? Kill me now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 20, 2010, 02:19:00 AM
Not any who appreciate good acting ability. :D

Thank you, Shecky! If this was Facebook, I would 'like' this times 1 million. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 20, 2010, 05:17:27 AM
Thank you, Shecky! If this was Facebook, I would 'like' this times 1 million. :)

actually you can't like anything a million times on facebook, unless you like and unlike it over and over again, and I don't think that counts.

just saying.  :P ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 20, 2010, 06:01:27 AM
actually you can't like anything a million times on facebook, unless you like and unlike it over and over again, and I don't think that counts.

just saying.  :P ;D

Oh, I know that. If I really like something, though, I type 'Like x 1,000,000' in the comment box below :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 20, 2010, 06:18:41 AM
Oh, I know that. If I really like something, though, I type 'Like x 1,000,000' in the comment box below :)

...convenient. xD

Robert Downey Jr. for Butters, ftw. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: uncanny on July 20, 2010, 08:56:55 AM
Butters I would have said a slimed down Wayne Knight (already has that crazy cracka polka man look)..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 20, 2010, 02:48:42 PM
Butters I would have said a slimed down Wayne Knight (already has that crazy cracka polka man look)..

Wayne Knight(54) is a good one, but his age is up there with my first two choices which were Steve Buscemi(52) and Paul Reubens(57). However in Dead Beat(book 7) Butters is 37. I think all of these choices are too old.

Now Justin Long(32) would be perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: uncanny on July 20, 2010, 04:13:55 PM
Ok, bear with me.. Billy Zane for Thomas (hey you laughing back there, I see ya!); Christopher Lee as Eb; John Cleese as the voice of Bob; Michael Clarke Duncan as Morgan; Will Sampson as Injun Joe; Monica Keena for Murphy; and for Harry.. Christian Bale.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 20, 2010, 04:36:11 PM
Ok, bear with me.. Billy Zane for Thomas (hey you laughing back there, I see ya!); Christopher Lee as Eb; John Cleese as the voice of Bob; Michael Clarke Duncan as Morgan; Will Sampson as Injun Joe; Monica Keena for Murphy; and for Harry.. Christian Bale.
Billy Zane...your right I am laughing.
Christopher Lee as The Merlin I could see.
John Cleese.....sure why not.
MCD as Morgan...? how about Sanya instead?
Will Sampson has been dead for 23 years. Wes Studi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wes_Studi) instead.
Monica Keena...never heard of her.
Patrick Bateman/Batman/Alfred Borden as Harry Dresden?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 20, 2010, 04:45:11 PM
Monica has the right look for the role and is short enough. She's also in her thirties...

Meh, I still see Kristen Bell as Murphy thanks to Moses.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on July 20, 2010, 04:53:14 PM
Oh, god, this is live action? Kill me now.

Live-action, as in the Scooby-Doo movies with Freddie Prinze/Sarah Michelle Gellar/Matthew Lillard/Linda Cardellini (who actually made Velma Dinkley majorly hot.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 20, 2010, 05:59:27 PM
Live-action, as in the Scooby-Doo movies with Freddie Prinze/Sarah Michelle Gellar/Matthew Lillard/Linda Cardellini (who actually made Velma Dinkley majorly hot.)

Ahh, I see, thank you.

Still. *cringes*

LEAVE MY CHILDHOOD CARTOONS ALONE YOU BASTARDS!

(although I am pretty excited about the release of Tron: Legacy in December)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 20, 2010, 06:01:19 PM
@uncanny

John Cleese as Bob FTW!

I love John Cleese :) He's always and by far been my favorite Python ;D Plus, he was just funny as the voice of King Harold the latent frog in Shrek 2 and 3 :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 20, 2010, 06:28:53 PM
@uncanny

John Cleese as Bob FTW!

I love John Cleese :) He's always and by far been my favorite Python ;D Plus, he was just funny as the voice of King Harold the latent frog in Shrek 2 and 3 :)

It's stuff like this that makes me wish we had a video or even just audio recording of Jim reading advance chapters of SmF at PhauxCon in '07. When we heard Jim do Bob's voice... man, there ain't no goin' back from that. He IS Bob. The manic glee that infuses his Bob-voice just can't be equalled.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 20, 2010, 07:16:28 PM
It's stuff like this that makes me wish we had a video or even just audio recording of Jim reading advance chapters of SmF at PhauxCon in '07. When we heard Jim do Bob's voice... man, there ain't no goin' back from that. He IS Bob. The manic glee that infuses his Bob-voice just can't be equalled.

Well, in that case...

Can we, for the sake of perfect fantasy casting, just make Jim the voice of Bob?

Shecky, is this your way of subtly angling us to pick your choices? ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 20, 2010, 07:19:14 PM
Well, in that case...

Can we, for the sake of perfect fantasy casting, just make Jim the voice of Bob?

Shecky, is this your way of subtly angling us to pick your choices? ;D

I can go for this.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 20, 2010, 07:31:50 PM
Snoop Dogg should do the voice of Bob?

Fo' Shizzle. Think about it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on July 20, 2010, 07:39:09 PM
Well, in that case...

Can we, for the sake of perfect fantasy casting, just make Jim the voice of Bob?

Shecky, is this your way of subtly angling us to pick your choices? ;D

There's nothing subtle about it. I've been campaigning for this for almost three years. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 20, 2010, 07:54:59 PM
Jim should play Shiro.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 20, 2010, 08:24:33 PM
There's nothing subtle about it. I've been campaigning for this for almost three years. :D

Dude, it works.

I'm of the opinion, that if you just bombard people with what you want repetitively, eventually they will either A.) give in to your choice to shut you up or B.) attack you with THEIR choice to shut you up.

For instance -- I like Erica Cerra, but she's Italian. I don't want her to play Susan. Even if it IS Jim's choice. Sorry Jim :-\

ETA: It just occurred to me that if she doesn't play Susan, she could play Anastasia. Just throwing it out there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 20, 2010, 08:34:10 PM
For instance -- I like Erica Cerra, but she's Italian. I don't want her to play Susan. Even if it IS Jim's choice. Sorry Jim :-\

Oh. She is?  :o

Well she's passed off being latin in Eureka, since Jo is supposed to be hispanic, right?

Yeah, I usually have another choice besides Jim's, even though I like call of his choices so far.  8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 20, 2010, 08:41:54 PM
What are Jim's choices, and where did you all find them?

I mean I know from this thread so far that Jim's choices are:

Harry = Alexis Denisof
Susan = Erica Cerra
Morgan = Clancy Brown

What are the rest, just out of curiousity.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 20, 2010, 08:47:04 PM
Oh. She is?  :o

Well she's passed off being latin in Eureka, since Jo is supposed to be hispanic, right?

Yeah, I usually have another choice besides Jim's, even though I like call of his choices so far.  8)

I have no idea, Blue, I don't watch Eureka  :-X Sorry!

And according to the trivia section on her IMDB page, she's of Italian descent :) I have a problem with actors portraying what they aren't, for some reason. It's through no fault of the actor, but my brain relies on rote -- I read what the character description is, and in my head, I perfect the image. For me, Susan needs to be portrayed by a Latina, and Anastasia needs to be portrayed (at least as an older woman) by someone who is Italian, because that is where her character was born, that is where her character lived, and that is who she is, up until the Corpsetaker stole her body. And then she needs to be portrayed by someone else, because now she's a tiny little curly-brown-haired American girl with an Italian woman's brain, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 20, 2010, 09:08:05 PM
What are Jim's choices, and where did you all find them?

I mean I know from this thread so far that Jim's choices are:

Harry = Alexis Denisof
Susan = Erica Cerra
Morgan = Clancy Brown

What are the rest, just out of curiousity.

I have no idea. I do, however, know that Jim originally wanted to cast a mid-1980s Carrie Fisher in the role of Murphy.... although it's entirely possible that he was messing with people's heads. It WAS about four years ago when he said it :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on July 20, 2010, 09:19:55 PM
Having seen Sorcerer's Apprentice(don't burn me to a crisp...  I liked it.) and now I can totally see Jay Baruchel as Butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 20, 2010, 09:21:17 PM
I have no idea, Blue, I don't watch Eureka  :-X Sorry!

And according to the trivia section on her IMDB page, she's of Italian descent :) I have a problem with actors portraying what they aren't, for some reason. It's through no fault of the actor, but my brain relies on rote -- I read what the character description is, and in my head, I perfect the image. For me, Susan needs to be portrayed by a Latina, and Anastasia needs to be portrayed (at least as an older woman) by someone who is Italian, because that is where her character was born, that is where her character lived, and that is who she is, up until the Corpsetaker stole her body. And then she needs to be portrayed by someone else, because now she's a tiny little curly-brown-haired American girl with an Italian woman's brain, lol.

I understand what you're saying. But hey, it isn't bad as the version of Susan they had on the TV show.  :-\

As for Clancy Brown, I remember seeing it in the casting thread somewhere.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 20, 2010, 09:22:43 PM
Having seen Sorcerer's Apprentice(don't burn me to a crisp...  I liked it.) and now I can totally see Jay Baruchel as Butters.

Who's that? Is that the kid that looks and sounds like a miniature Nicholas Cage? The one that played the apprentice?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 20, 2010, 09:25:35 PM
I want to see Sorcerer's Apprentice because I heard Monica Belluci is in it.  ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 20, 2010, 09:27:01 PM
I understand what you're saying. But hey, it isn't bad as the version of Susan they had on the TV show.  :-\


Ugggggghhhh don't get me started on that. The same people that did the casting for that are some of the same people that wanted to rename Harry "Eric."  >:(


As for Clancy Brown, I remember seeing it in the casting thread somewhere.

It is here. I forget who first mentioned it, but for Morgan? Hells yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 20, 2010, 09:32:16 PM

Ugggggghhhh don't get me started on that. The same people that did the casting for that are some of the same people that wanted to rename Harry "Eric."  >:(


It is here. I forget who first mentioned it, but for Morgan? Hells yes.

lol Eric.

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18944.0.html

I mentioned it in this thread, but saw it in the Twitter tidbits topic.  8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on July 20, 2010, 10:03:20 PM
Who's that? Is that the kid that looks and sounds like a miniature Nicholas Cage? The one that played the apprentice?

Indeed, he played the awkward and geeky Dave.  Who I thought managed to take the role to the edge of being over the top without falling off ito ridiculousness.  I enjoyed his part more than Cage's.  Possibly because he looked so like Dresden in my mind.  It pulled me out of the fun of the flick a couple of times.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 20, 2010, 11:23:00 PM
Indeed, he played the awkward and geeky Dave.  Who I thought managed to take the roll to the edge of being over the top without falling off ito ridiculousness.  I enjoyed his part more than Cage's.  Possibly because he looked so like Dresden in my mind.  It pulled me out of the fun of the flick a couple of times.

he looks too young to me, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: applejuicefool on July 21, 2010, 02:11:15 AM
What about Christopher Gorham (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0330913/) as Harry?

-AJF
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 21, 2010, 01:14:35 PM
I want to see Sorcerer's Apprentice because I heard Monica Belluci is in it.  ::)

HELL YEAH. Same here. She is smokin' for a 45 year old.

She's Italian, but way too hot to play the old Luccio 1.0. Belluci is my Mab.

She is married to Vincent Cassel!?! Just saw that when I looked up her age.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 21, 2010, 01:17:20 PM
What about Christopher Gorham (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0330913/) as Harry?

-AJF

What about........NO!

I am all about some underdogs playing some supporting roles, but casting the main star with some nearly unknown actor just doesn't cut the mustard.

And seriously? Did you not see the poll? I mean with all those choices, you pick this guy??? Really?

*Granted my poll is missing Alexis Denisof, which I regret, cause I would much rather see him winning than N Fillion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 21, 2010, 01:47:41 PM
I was looking over the poll and kind of reflecting on how each actor measures up, and when I was looking at Hugh Jackman's profile, I noticed his wife. She is 13 years older than Jackman, and it kind of shows.
(http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/108752-deborra_lee_furness_married_the_sexiest_man_alive_hugh_jackman.jpg)
She must have an amazing...............money maker.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on July 21, 2010, 01:48:29 PM
What about Christopher Gorham (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0330913/) as Harry?

-AJF

The... the guy from Jake 2.0?  Really?  Not as Harry. Get him to geek it up and maybe hr could be Butters.  Maybe.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 21, 2010, 02:12:29 PM
She's Italian, but way too hot to play the old Luccio 1.0.

I'm sure make up and the screen can do something to remedy that.

or maybe not.
Mab would be interesting for her.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 21, 2010, 04:59:03 PM
Now this is just a question, what do you guys think of Scarlett Johannson as Murphy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 21, 2010, 05:27:28 PM
Now this is just a question, what do you guys think of Scarlett Johannson as Murphy?

I do have Scarlett Johannson in my original cast, but I had her down as either Lily or Aurora, she just seemed like a Summer Lady to me.

Anyhow, I think she has too soft a look for Muphey. Maybe too much of a baby face, I can't really put my finger on it, but even though she kicked a$$ in Iron Man 2, she still doesn't strike me as hardcore like Murph.

Speaking of Iron Man 2, I think Gwyneth Paltrow could make a really good Lea/Leanshide.

And/or Cate Blanchett.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 21, 2010, 05:44:59 PM
I do have Scarlett Johannson in my original cast, but I had her down as either Lily or Aurora, she just seemed like a Summer Lady to me.

Anyhow, I think she has too soft a look for Muphey. Maybe too much of a baby face, I can't really put my finger on it, but even though she kicked a$$ in Iron Man 2, she still doesn't strike me as hardcore like Murph.

Speaking of Iron Man 2, I think Gwyneth Paltrow could make a really good Lea/Leanshide.

And/or Cate Blanchett.

Well Murphy is supposed to look like a kid's favorite aunt.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 21, 2010, 06:30:20 PM
Well Murphy is supposed to look like a kid's favorite aunt.

Exactly, to me she doesn't scream "hey, it's auntie Murphey" more like a kid's favorite sexy older cousin.
(that doesn't sound right)
(http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/scarlett-johansson-x-1008-def-18104916.jpg)
I mean...... I guess she could pull it off. (She is smokin' in this pic)

Problem with Scarlett playing Murphey is she is only 25, same age as two of the popular nominees for Molly's role, which are Amanda Seyfried (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Seyfried) and Deborah Ann Woll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Ann_Woll).

Which these two roles are so far apart in age, Molly is 14 when Murphey is in her early 30's.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 21, 2010, 07:33:45 PM
Exactly, to me she doesn't scream "hey, it's auntie Murphey" more like a kid's favorite sexy older cousin.
(that doesn't sound right)
(http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/scarlett-johansson-x-1008-def-18104916.jpg)
I mean...... I guess she could pull it off. (She is smokin' in this pic)

Problem with Scarlett playing Murphey is she is only 25, same age as two of the popular nominees for Molly's role, which are Amanda Seyfried (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Seyfried) and Deborah Ann Woll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Ann_Woll).

Which these two roles are so far apart in age, Molly is 14 when Murphey is in her early 30's.

Well I guess it's Kristen Bell for me, but I also like SJ as Murph too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 21, 2010, 10:44:16 PM
Scarlet's too... Idk, sexy? idk what I'm looking for, but she doesn't scream murph to me.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: applejuicefool on July 22, 2010, 12:38:49 AM
The... the guy from Jake 2.0?  Really?  Not as Harry. Get him to geek it up and maybe hr could be Butters.  Maybe.
Watch an ep of Covert Affairs. Little Jakey grew up. I think he'd be great.

-AJF
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 22, 2010, 01:52:37 AM
Scarlet's too... Idk, sexy? idk what I'm looking for, but she doesn't scream murph to me.



Am in complete agreement with this.

I might be willing to be persuaded to have Kristen Bell as Murph, but I'm still devoted to Sarah Michelle Gellar, as she actually IS the right age and the right height to play Murphy from the very start of the series.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 22, 2010, 03:10:21 AM
Scarlet's too... Idk, sexy? idk what I'm looking for, but she doesn't scream murph to me.



Yeah, she's is too hot for Murph  and too short for Gard.

I guess it is Kristen Bell or SMG for me.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 22, 2010, 10:48:57 AM
This is utterly off topic, but since I'm awake at the same time as Jim, and it made me nearly pee myself laughing, I'm gonna post it anyway:

From Jim's Twitter account:


+Working on GHOST STORY. It is being difficult. Who would have thought a dead protagonist would be so difficult to motivate?


Then, two minutes later...

+Considering an alternate story plan, where Butters and Murphy tote Harry's corpse, Bernie-like, through madcap misadventure.

I love that Jim has a Twitter. Reading all of the madcap ramblings first-hand from his own fingers is beyond the realm of awesomeness. He went on a little bit of a mental writing war after this :)

http://twitter.com/longshotauthor (http://twitter.com/longshotauthor)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on July 22, 2010, 02:57:21 PM
Exactly, to me she doesn't scream "hey, it's auntie Murphey" more like a kid's favorite sexy older cousin.
(that doesn't sound right)
(http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/scarlett-johansson-x-1008-def-18104916.jpg)
I mean...... I guess she could pull it off. (She is smokin' in this pic)

Problem with Scarlett playing Murphey is she is only 25, same age as two of the popular nominees for Molly's role, which are Amanda Seyfried (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Seyfried) and Deborah Ann Woll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Ann_Woll).

Which these two roles are so far apart in age, Molly is 14 when Murphey is in her early 30's.

Woll would definitely have to dye her hair blonde; as all the pics @ IMDB show her to be as red-haired as Joan on Mad Men.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 22, 2010, 03:18:27 PM
Woll would definitely have to dye her hair blonde; as all the pics @ IMDB show her to be as red-haired as Joan on Mad Men.

Not really a problem since Molly has multi-color hair throughout the books so far.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 22, 2010, 08:59:27 PM
Not really a problem since Molly has multi-color hair throughout the books so far.

Agreed. The only time her hair is even close to it's natural color is in Changes, and it's still been modified (dyed dark green underneath, while  her natural blonde is on top. And it's longer, as well.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 22, 2010, 11:22:15 PM
Problem with Scarlett playing Murphey is she is only 25, same age as two of the popular nominees for Molly's role, which are Amanda Seyfried (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Seyfried) and Deborah Ann Woll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Ann_Woll).

I just realized that I thought Scarlet's older than that. O.o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 23, 2010, 01:44:54 AM
I just realized that I thought Scarlet's older than that. O.o

You would think that, but then if you look at the pictures, you realize she is relatively very young.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 26, 2010, 03:37:34 PM
I think what's more important than casting the characters........who should direct it?

Guillermo del Toro (Hellboy) :D
Christopher Nolan (Dark Knight, Prestige) ;D
James Cameron (Avatar) think about the special effects :)
Bryan Singer (Xmen, Superman, Battlestar Galactica 2011) 8)
Peter Jackson (LOTR) not a great director IMHO, got lucky w/LOTR :-X
Ridley Scott (Blade Runner, Gladiator) :-\
George Lucas (Star Wars) yeah, maybe 20 years ago :'(
Gore Verbinski (POTC 1,2,3) ::)
Sam Raimi (Army of Darkness, Spiderman) Drag me to Hell SUCKED BIG TIME! >:(
Michael Bay (Armageddon, Pearl Harbor, Transformers) lots of explosions :-[
Stephen Speilburg :-\
Wachowski Brothers (Matrix) :)
Robert Rodriguez (Sin City) ;D
Quinton Tarantino (Pulp Fiction) :D
Danny Boyle (28 Days Later, Slumdog Millionaire) ;)
M. Night Shyamalan (The Last Airbender) :P

So awhile back I posted this about who should direct it, but not too many people commented, so I just wanted to bring it back up, because I was thinking about it, and now think Bryan Singer or Sam Raimi could pull it off. Of course as I stated before Sam Raimi has really disappointed me lately but if he could reach back to his roots I think he could pull it off. Then again i still think Guillermo del Toro would be great too. Christopher Nolan is an amazing director but I think way too serious to dark/serious for a DF adaptation.

Or maybe Jon Turteltaub should direct it.  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 26, 2010, 03:40:13 PM
I vote Joss Whedon and David Greenwalt. It's like Buffy and Angel all over again.

Throw in Nic Cage and Jerry B as executive producers? *shrug grin*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 26, 2010, 03:49:14 PM
Jerry Bruckheimer?

What's weird is Jerry Bruckheimer has produced soo many good movies, is there such thing a "Great Producer".

Joss Whedon as Director.......NO! He has never directed a Hollywood movie besides Serenity, and Goners which is still in production, and he is rumored to possible direct The Avengers, but still no.

However, I DO think that he should be one of the writers, just not the director, if you like at his career is he much more of a writer than a director.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SpiritSAS on July 26, 2010, 03:49:38 PM
My take on the actors chosen in the survey.  There are several who could pull off the character, that are at the top of the survey, but who I don't think work becasue they don't fit the body style, which is so central to the role.  That's why I picked Paul Bettany.  I think he can get off those snappy, wiseass lines really well.  Also, he's 6 ft 3.  Not as tall as the Dresden character, but taller than most of the other choices.  Plus, he's fairly thin and wiry whereas Hugh Jackman and all the other top choices, are far more musclar and broard shouldered.  Jackman, for example or Gerard might make an excellent Sanya.  
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SpiritSAS on July 26, 2010, 03:51:50 PM
My take on the actors chosen in the survey.  There are several who could pull off the character, that are at the top of the survey, but who I don't think work becasue they don't fit the body style, which is so central to the role.  That's why I picked Paul Bettany.  I think he can get off those snappy, wiseass lines really well.  Also, he's 6 ft 3.  Not as tall as the Dresden character, but taller than most of the other choices.  Plus, he's fairly thin and wiry whereas Hugh Jackman and all the other top choices, are far more musclar and broard shouldered.  Jackman, for example or Gerard might make an excellent Sanya. 

SAS
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 26, 2010, 03:56:46 PM
Jerry Bruckheimer?

What's weird is Jerry Bruckheimer has produced soo many good movies, is there such thing a "Great Producer".

Joss Whedon as Director.......NO! He has never directed a Hollywood movie besides Serenity, and Goners which is still in production, and he is rumored to possible direct The Avengers, but still no.

However, I DO think that he should be one of the writers, just not the director, if you like at his career is he much more of a writer than a director.

he probably just has a good "nose" for good movies. I called dibs on him because I like him, that's all, lol.

fine. :p him as a writer then. I vote for *scans your list* I don't know some of them because I suck, but I don't like James Cameron. >>
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 26, 2010, 04:10:47 PM
My take on the actors chosen in the survey.  There are several who could pull off the character, that are at the top of the survey, but who I don't think work becasue they don't fit the body style, which is so central to the role.  That's why I picked Paul Bettany.  I think he can get off those snappy, wiseass lines really well.  Also, he's 6 ft 3.  Not as tall as the Dresden character, but taller than most of the other choices.  Plus, he's fairly thin and wiry whereas Hugh Jackman and all the other top choices, are far more musclar and broard shouldered.  Jackman, for example or Gerard might make an excellent Sanya. 

SAS

Jackman and Gerard are white though, while Sanya is a black russian man.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 26, 2010, 04:13:59 PM
These are arranged by number of votes as of the time of this post, excluding Denisof which is Jim's pick that wasn't included in the poll.

Alexis Denisof           height: 6' 2" age: 44
Nathan Fillion           height: 6' 1œ" age: 39
Hugh Jackman          height: 6' 2œ" age: 41
Ryan Reynolds          height: 6' 2" age: 33
Timothy Olyphant     height: 6' 0" age: 42
Joe Flanigan            height: 6' 0" age: 43
Jared Padalecki        height: 6' 4" age: 28
Clive Owen              height: 6' 2œ" age: 45
Zachary Quinto        height: 6' 1" age: 33
Lee Pace                height: 6' 3" age: 31
Paul Bettany           height: 6' 3" age: 39
Neil Flynn               height: 6' 5œ" age: 49
Chris Evans             height: 6' 0œ" age: 29
Gerard Butler           height: 6' 2" age: 40
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 26, 2010, 04:19:25 PM
Jackman and Gerard are white though, while Sanya is a black russian man.

I was just thinking the same thing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SpiritSAS on July 26, 2010, 04:48:40 PM
Good point. Forgot that.  Funny too that in another post in this thread, someone mentioned Alan Rickman for Morgan.  Isn't Morgan African American too or was that just the actor they cast in the show three years ago?

Anyway, I think the points about body type and height are still valid.  Need a tall, wiry type, who's not overly muscular.  Jared P. is the tallest in the group (under 40) but he's not a seasoned enough actor for role, in my opinion.  Neil Flynn may be too old and is not known well enough to draw in the movie audiences. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on July 26, 2010, 05:08:39 PM
Good point. Forgot that.  Funny too that in another post in this thread, someone mentioned Alan Rickman for Morgan.  Isn't Morgan African American too or was that just the actor they cast in the show three years ago?

It was the actor...quoting from Turn Coat, Chapter one:

"My first impression of the guy had stuck with me pretty hard—tall, heavily muscled, with a lean, sunken face I'd always associated with religious ascetics and half-crazy artists. He had brown hair that was unevenly streaked with iron, and a beard that, while always kept trimmed, perpetually seemed to need a few more weeks to fill out. He had hard, steady eyes, and all the comforting, reassuring charm of a dental drill. "
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 26, 2010, 05:43:22 PM
Good point. Forgot that.  Funny too that in another post in this thread, someone mentioned Alan Rickman for Morgan.  Isn't Morgan African American too or was that just the actor they cast in the show three years ago? 

only in the tv show. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 26, 2010, 06:04:28 PM
Anyway, I think the points about body type and height are still valid.  Need a tall, wiry type, who's not overly muscular.  Jared P. is the tallest in the group (under 40) but he's not a seasoned enough actor for role, in my opinion.  Neil Flynn may be too old and is not known well enough to draw in the movie audiences.  

I agree with both statements.

Jared P isn't seasoned enough, even for his age vs like Chris Evans who is only a year older.

And yeah, Neil Flynn is way too old.

I still think my favorite choice as far as best age and best height is Lee Pace, though also not very seasoned.
(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/muudang/rough.jpg)(http://www.tvboyfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/lpace.jpg)(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ne5Lb2SiFHg/Sxf_dmFG1aI/AAAAAAAApEs/ckn7Jko2eI0/s400/lee+pace.jpg)(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7400000/Lee-lee-pace-7437601-995-1425.jpg)(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwmysuvOab1qajrzpo1_400.jpg)(http://guestofaguest.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Lee_Pace_.jpg)(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/8900000/Lee-lee-pace-8934775-500-639.jpg)
*i just saw that he played with SMG in Possession (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368563/), never saw it though. (that's Sarah Michelle Gellar, not Sub Machine Gun)

I do like many of the choices on the list for other reasons, but they don't physically fit as well as the others.

And very much dislike some like, but there seem to be a over abundance of Whedon/Firefly/Stargate fans here so I won't say which two choices up there I don't like most.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on July 26, 2010, 06:42:10 PM
What it really comes down to, I think, is how much fan based pull has the author got in the marketplace and how big the author's negotiating lawyers cajones are.

Bottom line, if creative control is that important to the author, they will say NO to signing away their rights to consult on choosing the actors. They may not get the final say, but they CAN retain the right to fight for the authenticity of their conceptualization. (big words for pick they guy they imagined playing the role when they wrote it, I know...  ::))

Just ask author Terry Goodkind, who sold the rights to his books and watched the TV series they made out of them be changed into an almost unrecognizable depiction of his works and characters.  It was made cheesy, and not a good cheddar chesse, like toe jam cheese or something.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 26, 2010, 08:03:51 PM
I hereby officially cross these actors off as the non-Harry Dresden type:

Zachary Quinto
Lee Pace
Ryan Reynolds
Hugh Jackman (I know he doesn't fit the age group, but I am still holding out hope. Maybe he can be Book 15-era Harry.)
Clive Owen
Paul Bettany
Timothy Olyphant
Nathan Fillion (I love Nathan, but the more I look at him, the more I think that might actually be better suited as Michael. Or, if we want to let him change up his perceived character base a little, cast him as some of the other men in the verse -- for instance? MALCOLM Dresden, instead of Harry. Or Justin DuMorne, John Stallings, Anthony Forthill [he was, after all, a priest on the last season of Buffy, albeit a misogynistic, sadistic one...]. Let him shake it up a bit, ya know?)
Joe Flanigan
Chris Evans
Gerard Butler
Neil Flynn

Jared Padalecki
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 26, 2010, 08:07:59 PM
I hereby officially cross these actors off as the non-Harry Dresden type:

Zachary Quinto
Lee Pace
Ryan Reynolds
Hugh Jackman (I know he doesn't fit the age group, but I am still holding out hope. Maybe he can be Book 15-era Harry.)
Clive Owen
Paul Bettany
Timothy Olyphant
Nathan Fillion (I love Nathan, but the more I look at him, the more I think that might actually be better suited as Michael. Or, if we want to let him change up his perceived character base a little, cast him as some of the other men in the verse -- for instance? MALCOLM Dresden, instead of Harry. Or Justin DuMorne, John Stallings, Anthony Forthill [he was, after all, a priest on the last season of Buffy, albeit a misogynistic, sadistic one...]. Let him shake it up a bit, ya know?)
Joe Flanigan
Chris Evans
Gerard Butler
Neil Flynn

Jared Padalecki

You missed Joe Flanigan.

I agree with the rest.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 26, 2010, 08:26:57 PM
You missed Joe Flanigan.

I agree with the rest.

Damn, I thought I got him. I'll fix that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 26, 2010, 09:24:04 PM
I vote Joss Whedon and David Greenwalt. It's like Buffy and Angel all over again.

Throw in Nic Cage Ridley Scott and Jerry B as executive producers? *shrug grin*

FIFY.  Jerry B is good with the explody stuff, but Ridley Scott movies always have a good story, too.  I say it should be a joint project between Mutant Enemy and Scott Free.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 26, 2010, 11:12:03 PM
I still think my favorite choice as far as best age and best height is Lee Pace, though also not very seasoned.
(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/muudang/rough.jpg)(http://www.tvboyfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/lpace.jpg)(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ne5Lb2SiFHg/Sxf_dmFG1aI/AAAAAAAApEs/ckn7Jko2eI0/s400/lee+pace.jpg)(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7400000/Lee-lee-pace-7437601-995-1425.jpg)(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwmysuvOab1qajrzpo1_400.jpg)(http://guestofaguest.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Lee_Pace_.jpg)(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/8900000/Lee-lee-pace-8934775-500-639.jpg)
*i just saw that he played with SMG in Possession (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368563/), never saw it though. (that's Sarah Michelle Gellar, not Sub Machine Gun)

I do like many of the choices on the list for other reasons, but they don't physically fit as well as the others.

And very much dislike some like, but there seem to be a over abundance of Whedon/Firefly/Stargate fans here so I won't say which two choices up there I don't like most.

I know I'm all for Alexis Denisof and Michael Weatherly, but Lee Pace looks good for it, too... mmm..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SpiritSAS on July 27, 2010, 12:01:29 PM
You missed Joe Flanigan.

I agree with the rest.

I had thought, originally, that Paul Bettany might not be a bad choice.  Perhaps he's not "action hero" enought and more of a thinking hero type, but he does have a lot of positive qualities for the role.  Tall, right body type, can do sarcasm with the best of them, seasoned enough in acting.  Oh well...  If Tom Selleck weren't too old (and less stiff in his acting), he might have been a possible, but he's a bit heavy in the body type.  Just brain storming here. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SpiritSAS on July 27, 2010, 12:07:24 PM
One other possibility to consider.  Julian McMahon of Nip /Tuck; Charmed, Fantastic Four.  He's 42, 6' 2 and 1/2 inches tall.  Tends to play less action and more thinking villian roles.  Has the right body type and experience as an actor.  If nothing else, he might be a good Morgan. 

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SpiritSAS on July 27, 2010, 12:14:51 PM
One other note about Morgan.  I read the excerpt posted from Turn Coat, but still didn't get the impression that this determined his racial background fully.  His hair color was noted, but that doesn't 100% determine race or skin color.  The rest of the description didn't seem to give more than a description of his facial features.  What am I missing here?  I don't recall, in any of the other books (not that I have a photographic memory or anything) enough about Morgan to say one way or another.  Mostly, since I had this image in my mind from the show, I just don't recall reading something about him that made me think "Wait a second, he's not African American".  Now Sanya's skin tone is described specifically. 

Not looking for a major discussion, just noting that it may be an undetermined point in the books.  Has Morgan ever appeared in the graphic novells?  That may settle this point.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Magnus on July 27, 2010, 12:39:58 PM
Yes, he has, check this link: http://jim-butcher.com/pics/dabelSF02005.jpg
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 27, 2010, 01:21:11 PM
It was the actor...quoting from Turn Coat, Chapter one:

"My first impression of the guy had stuck with me pretty hard—tall, heavily muscled, with a lean, sunken face I'd always associated with religious ascetics and half-crazy artists. He had brown hair that was unevenly streaked with iron, and a beard that, while always kept trimmed, perpetually seemed to need a few more weeks to fill out. He had hard, steady eyes, and all the comforting, reassuring charm of a dental drill. "

One other note about Morgan.  I read the excerpt posted from Turn Coat, but still didn't get the impression that this determined his racial background fully.  His hair color was noted, but that doesn't 100% determine race or skin color.  The rest of the description didn't seem to give more than a description of his facial features.  What am I missing here?  I don't recall, in any of the other books (not that I have a photographic memory or anything) enough about Morgan to say one way or another.  Mostly, since I had this image in my mind from the show, I just don't recall reading something about him that made me think "Wait a second, he's not African American".  Now Sanya's skin tone is described specifically.  

Not looking for a major discussion, just noting that it may be an undetermined point in the books.  Has Morgan ever appeared in the graphic novells?  That may settle this point.

Yes, he has, check this link: http://jim-butcher.com/pics/dabelSF02005.jpg

Morgan had long grey hair pulled back in a ponytail, and a craggy face with a perpetually grim, often sour expression. He was apparently Germanic in origin.

I don't know what book this is from, I pulled it from wikipedia because it's the most accurate source of info.  :P

But it's also on spiritus-temporis.com and I still don't know where the exerpt is from though, but seems to fall between Proven Guilty(book eight) and Turn Coat(book eleven) somewhere.

I realize there is a bit of a contradiction sort of. Brown hair that was unevenly streaked with iron & long grey hair pulled back in a ponytail, however it could be the iron streaked hair that is pulled into a ponytail. :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on July 27, 2010, 04:06:08 PM
We know by WFJ that Morgan served in WWI I just thought of an actor that could pull off the look of Morgan Tobias Menzies he played Brutus in the HBO/BBC show Rome


 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 27, 2010, 06:40:14 PM
Morgan has already been cast.
(http://www.silverfeast.com/wp-content/uploads/stephen_lang.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 28, 2010, 12:44:17 AM
Morgan has already been cast.
(http://www.silverfeast.com/wp-content/uploads/stephen_lang.jpg)

This.

He's my alternative choice besides Jim's choice of Clancy Brown.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on July 28, 2010, 04:12:54 AM
Eh.  He's a decent actor, but doesn't scream Morgan to me - too much grey and not enough brown in his hair :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 28, 2010, 06:03:16 AM
It occurs to me now that I REALLY want Aaron Eckhart to have a role in this. No idea what he would play, but he's an awesome actor. I mean, as Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight alone? Totally tortured, and yet a complete BAMF. Someone place him!!


(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSz12-ieMIwtaJI2syLGskkOQjK_2BJsIe4Zzzcwzqm-kSsCGA&t=1&usg=__63No8S8R-d10Y0N-fAUekICfB2A=)(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQT5GwXFNwCyHtNGGfGPQCYNvzCE2KOT7Xev03-LZkBnsrWSOI&t=1&usg=__FC7yFFuNvxHqT044msIKbLTGtdA=)(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSNMqCQKTzCnngo7qO0rLROhIQlPv1A5HNNto65WcG6rdtP4ko&t=1&usg=__51cjRq3LdQl0rgzG6cEjoRWTpCw=) (as Harvey Dent a.k.a. Two-Face. Seriously, who is willing to let make-up/those crazy-ass CGI techs do this to their face? It's awesome.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DonQuixote on July 28, 2010, 11:00:35 AM
I do believe that I have found the perfect Murph...

<a href="http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/wiccanmaiden2000/Dresden%20Movie/?action=view&current=11459646_tml.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/wiccanmaiden2000/Dresden%20Movie/11459646_tml.jpg" border="0" alt="Karrin Murphy"></a> (http://<a href="http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/wiccanmaiden2000/Dresden%20Movie/?action=view&current=11459646_tml.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/wiccanmaiden2000/Dresden%20Movie/11459646_tml.jpg" border="0" alt="Karrin Murphy"></a>)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 28, 2010, 01:15:42 PM
It occurs to me now that I REALLY want Aaron Eckhart to have a role in this. No idea what he would play, but he's an awesome actor. I mean, as Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight alone? Totally tortured, and yet a complete BAMF. Someone place him!!

Michael? Nicodemus? Captain America?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 28, 2010, 02:53:00 PM
I do believe that I have found the perfect Murph...

<a href="http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/wiccanmaiden2000/Dresden%20Movie/?action=view&current=11459646_tml.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/wiccanmaiden2000/Dresden%20Movie/11459646_tml.jpg" border="0" alt="Karrin Murphy"></a>



Um. Okay. Who is she?

ETA: also, standard HTML linking doesn't work on forums. Next time, all you have to do is either type [ u r l ] [ / u r l ] around your link (it's spaced so I won't accidentally trigger anything), or just paste the link in. Or look for the little icon of the globe above the text box.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 28, 2010, 03:02:31 PM
Michael? Nicodemus? Captain America?

No, not as Nicodemus, definitely not. I have my heart set on Mark Sheppard for that role (Thanks, Bluebeard!)

And I don't think as Michael, either... I need to look at my male cast listing again.

Harry -- Alexis Denisof
"Bob" -- the voice of John Cleese [or preferably the voice of Jim Butcher in a completely EPIC cameo]
Thomas Raith -- Matt Bomer

William Borden --
Michael Carpenter --
Jared Kincaid (The Hellhound) -- Christian Kane
"Gentleman" Johnny Marcone -- Ray Wise
Donald Morgan -- Clancy Brown

Carlos Ramirez --
Sanya --

Arthur Langtry (the Merlin) -- Christopher Lee
Rashid, the Gatekeeper -- Shaun Toub
Joseph Listens-to-Wind (AKA "Injun Joe") -- Wes Studi

Gregori Cristos --
Ebenezar McCoy -- Jim Beaver
Simon Petrovich --
Aleron LaFortier --
Lloyd Slate -- Maybe?
Fix --
Waldo Butters -- Justin Long
Ron Carmichael --
Malcolm Dresden --
Justin DuMorne --
Father Anthony Forthill --
Hendricks --
Mortimer Lindquist --
Mac McAnally --
Nicodemus -- Mark Sheppard
Don Paolo Ortega --
Samuel Peabody --
Henry Rawlins -- Reginald VelJohnson
Rudolph --
John Stallings --



I dunno. I see him as a definitive villain. He might be good as a good guy, but he kills it when he's a bad guy. And I crossed out everyone I already have roles for, plus Ramirez, Gregori Cristos and Sanya, for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 28, 2010, 03:05:24 PM
Um. Okay. Who is she?

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 28, 2010, 03:17:41 PM
My thoughts exactly.

Thirded.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 28, 2010, 03:45:24 PM
No, not as Nicodemus, definitely not. I have my heart set on Mark Sheppard for that role (Thanks, Bluebeard!)

And I don't think as Michael, either... I need to look at my male cast listing again.

Harry -- Alexis Denisof
"Bob" -- the voice of John Cleese [or preferably the voice of Jim Butcher in a completely EPIC cameo]
Thomas Raith -- Matt Bomer

William Borden --
Michael Carpenter --
Jared Kincaid (The Hellhound) -- Christian Kane
"Gentleman" Johnny Marcone -- Ray Wise
Donald Morgan -- Clancy Brown

Carlos Ramirez --
Sanya --

Arthur Langtry (the Merlin) -- Christopher Lee
Rashid, the Gatekeeper -- Shaun Toub
Joseph Listens-to-Wind (AKA "Injun Joe") -- Wes Studi

Gregori Cristos --
Ebenezar McCoy -- Jim Beaver
Simon Petrovich --
Aleron LaFortier --
Lloyd Slate -- Maybe?
Fix --
Waldo Butters -- Justin Long
Ron Carmichael --
Malcolm Dresden --
Justin DuMorne --
Father Anthony Forthill --
Hendricks --
Mortimer Lindquist --
Mac McAnally --
Nicodemus -- Mark Sheppard
Don Paolo Ortega --
Samuel Peabody --
Henry Rawlins -- Reginald VelJohnson
Rudolph --
John Stallings --

I dunno. I see him as a definitive villain. He might be good as a good guy, but he kills it when he's a bad guy. And I crossed out everyone I already have roles for, plus Ramirez, Gregori Cristos and Sanya, for obvious reasons.

too old for William Borden and Fix, too young for Forthill, should have scratched Ortega for those same obvious reasons.

Carmichael, Rudolph, Stallings....kind of small roles, but it would work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 28, 2010, 03:46:25 PM
and I still think Alan Rickman should be Mortimer Lindquist
(http://haranded.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/snape7.jpg)
even though Lindquist probably should look more like Truman Capote.
(http://www.foppishdandy.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/capote.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 28, 2010, 03:48:21 PM
I guess Steve Buscemi could be another choice for Lindquist.
(http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/rsz/434/x/x/x/medias/nmedia/18/63/10/35/18771809.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 28, 2010, 03:49:42 PM
also Hendricks i think should be played by Vinny Jones with some red hair.
(http://secureimmaturity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/vinnie-jones.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DonQuixote on July 28, 2010, 08:28:43 PM
She is Radha Mitchell. She's 5'5 and change, but I have never seen her in a movie where she didn't look like she would qualify for dwarfism.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on July 28, 2010, 08:47:55 PM
And I don't think as Michael, either... I need to look at my male cast listing again.

...
Simon Petrovich --
...
Pretty sure we don't need to worry about him since we've never met him, so unless his ghost shows up, we no nothing about him other than that he was Russian (was he? I think that was confirmed, maybe it's just an assumpution based on his name.), was on good terms witht he Red Court and is now dead.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 29, 2010, 02:25:19 AM
She is Radha Mitchell. She's 5'5 and change, but I have never seen her in a movie where she didn't look like she would qualify for dwarfism.

She is very hot.  Nuff said.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on July 29, 2010, 05:01:24 AM
Radha Mitchell has been in a lot of stuff recently, but I don't think she's right for Murphy.  :'(

Moses has me sold on Kristen Bell as Murphy.  8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 29, 2010, 12:54:51 PM
since this is perfect casting, I woulda cast her based on looks for Murph:

(http://baroqueinhackney.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/natasha_richardson_gallery_21.jpg)

guess who. too tall, but meh.

Kristen Bell? hmmm.. interesting. Does Jim have any casting choice for Murphy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 29, 2010, 01:30:17 PM
since this is perfect casting, I woulda cast her based on looks for Murph:

(http://baroqueinhackney.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/natasha_richardson_gallery_21.jpg)

guess who. too tall, but meh.

If this a picture of Natasha Richardson, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but she died last year from a head injury while skiing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 29, 2010, 02:25:27 PM
If this a picture of Natasha Richardson, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but she died last year from a head injury while skiing.

I know. It's perfect casting for a reason - any era and such - this was from when she was younger. I think she may be the Murph in my head... ;)

and she's too tall and old anyway.

RIP to her.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 29, 2010, 04:52:46 PM
I know. It's perfect casting for a reason - any era and such - this was from when she was younger. I think she may be the Murph in my head... ;)

and she's too tall and old anyway.

RIP to her.

Right, well I think the verdict is still out on wether Perfect Casting is the same as Fantasy Casting.

I tend to lean toward a potential Perfect Cast vs an impossible Perfect Cast, because the fact that it's impossible makes it a little imperfect.  :P

But yeah if time-travel and ressurection were possible, sure she would have been a great Murph.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on July 30, 2010, 05:44:46 AM
Y'know now that Fillion seems to have dominated the Dresden poll maybe we should do a new poll for the perfect Murphy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 30, 2010, 01:07:22 PM
Y'know now that Fillion seems to have dominated the Dresden poll maybe we should do a new poll for the perfect Murphy.

I agree. Originally the poll was mine in another thread, but I requested to have it merged with this thread and thus lost control of it.

In the index it says this thread was started by j3nnee (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php?action=profile;u=18311) but she said she doesn't control the poll either.

Optionally you could start a new thread, add the poll, you will need to collect candidates by reading over this thread from the beggining. Then you could go to site suggestions and ask to have it merged here and maybe Priscillie will take down the Harry poll and put up the new one in it's place. The drawback to that method is since no one is managing it, then it would be difficult to make changes such as adding new candidates to the poll.

To be perfectly honest though it would be moot. Sarah Michelle Gellar would win.
 
If you put 2 and 2 together;
 
Nathan Fillion = Firefly = Joss Whedon = Buffy = Sarah Michelle Gellar.

*If Alexis Denisof were on the poll he would have won, but seeing as how he is another Whedonverse actor that is also a moot point, though he would have been more closely related to SMG in the Whedonverse.

Personally I would still like to see Kristen Bell play the role. She is cute, cheerleader like, she kicked a little a$$ an Heroes, and she is a pretty decent actress. She may not be the "PERFECT" Murphey but she is my favorite choice so far.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on July 30, 2010, 01:27:54 PM
To be perfectly honest though it would be moot. Sarah Michelle Gellar would win.

Thank you for conceding defeat ;D Just kidding.


Personally I would still like to see Kristen Bell play the role. She is cute, cheerleader like, she kicked a little a$$ an Heroes, and she is a pretty decent actress. She may not be the "PERFECT" Murphey but she is my favorite choice so far.

As long as no one tries to pitch Hayden Panettierre, who is no where near old enough, but who used to actually play a cheerleader on Heroes. That's still something I never understood from the show. How do you save an indestructible cheerleader in order to save the world? Stupid season 1 catchlines.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: JessE on July 31, 2010, 12:52:11 AM
I'm new to this site, so if I hit the wrong button please don't destroy me.
I always see Paul Blackthorn as Harry, because I saw the TV show before I found the books.
I think that Mark Harmon would do really well as Morgan, silver hair, and totally Army.
And, I don't know his name, but the guy who plays Guy of Gisbon on the new BBC 'Robin Hood' series would be really awesome as Thomas.
And the other guy from that show who plays Little John, would be the perfect Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on August 01, 2010, 03:59:19 AM
I think that Mark Harmon would do really well as Morgan, silver hair, and totally Army.

Quote from: Wikipedia
"In 1996, Harmon saved two teenage boys who were involved in a car accident outside of his home. Harmon used a sledge hammer from his garage to break the window out of their burning car, then pulled them free from the flames.1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Harmon#cite_note-11)

Mark Harmon is definitely awesome. I'm not sure if I want to see him with a ponytail. He would also have to gain a bit of muscle Morgan is described as being a larger man.  
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 02, 2010, 12:29:52 AM
Mark Harmon. yes please. I love him.

although, he doesn't look so... scary to me. isn't morgan supposed to be a lil scary?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: JessE on August 02, 2010, 12:57:28 AM
Mark Harmon can look scary when he wants too.
*eek
remember the angry Gibbs look
*ducks behind sofa

ooh, and

Lara-Jessica Alba

opinions?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 02, 2010, 01:03:16 AM
Mark Harmon can look scary when he wants too.
*eek
remember the angry Gibbs look
*ducks behind sofa

ooh, and

Lara-Jessica Alba

opinions?
I dunno. angry gibbs doesn't scare me.  :D

Idk why, but Jessica Alba don't scream sexy seductive vampiress succubus.

can we cast scarlet johanssen as lash, btw?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on August 02, 2010, 01:23:27 AM
I dunno. angry gibbs doesn't scare me.  :D

Idk why, but Jessica Alba don't scream sexy seductive vampiress succubus.

can we cast scarlet johanssen as lash, btw?
Agree with angry Gibbs, I just don't see him as Morgan, he might work as Marcone though...
And Jessica Alba as Lara is another agreement.
Scarlet Johanssen as Lash...mm, I don't know...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 02, 2010, 03:17:55 AM
Agree with angry Gibbs, I just don't see him as Morgan, he might work as Marcone though...
And Jessica Alba as Lara is another agreement.
Scarlet Johanssen as Lash...mm, I don't know...

ooooh yeah. He could be Marcone. I like that.

girl next door girl next door hmmmmm
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 02, 2010, 01:17:09 PM
I disagree with Mark Harmon as Morgan, he is way to gentle looking, even when he is trying to be menacing, he would probably make a better Marcone than Morgan.
(http://images.tvrage.com/people_galleries/9/24107/2869.jpg)

Jessica Alba, I would not mind seeing her in this cast somewhere but not as Lara Raith. Besides I have Lara reserved for Famke Janssen(Dark Phoenix).
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1jy5vh1XJ1qbbm9po1_500.jpg)

Scarlett Johanssen as Lash......hummmmm......Yeah, I think she could work as Lash or just about any one of the Summer Sidhe like Lily or Aurora.
(http://www.aaa-fashion.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/scarlett-johansson-hairstyles-gallery4.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 03, 2010, 05:22:35 PM
Casting "Changes"
Adding my two cents:

Dresden: Nathan Fillion (though he would have to loose some weight- not that he's fat, but he's a little bulky.)
Bob- voiced by James Marsters (bob's my favorite voice in the audiobooks)
Thomas: Josh Hartnet or Ryan Rynalds
Sanya- can't remember his name but the guy who wrote and played the giant black werewolf in Underworld.
Marcone: Eric Roberts (Marcone was Eric Roberts in my head even before Dark Knight)
Murphy: Charleze Theron
Susan: Gina Torez (come on, don't you want to see her in that outfit she wears in the final scene?)
Uriel: Alexander Skaarsgard
Odin: Liam Neson
Mab: Cate Blanchet
Lea:  Juliane Moore
Molly: lindsay fonseca (see Kick-Ass)
Arianna: Riana (if she can act)
Martin: Joe Pantelione (head in a bag!)
Butters: Zach Galafinakus
Gard- Rebecca Romijn

And just for shits and giggles:
Mother Summer: Imma P. Hall (old lady in the Ladykillers)
Mother Winter: Betty White

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 03, 2010, 05:51:26 PM
Somebody please find a place for Tim DeKay of "White Collar". Dude is just awesome, and he gets overlooked far too often for the simple fact that Matt Bomer causes panties to spontaneously combust at fifty paces.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 03, 2010, 06:11:54 PM
Casting "Changes"
Adding my two cents:

Dresden: Nathan Fillion (though he would have to loose some weight- not that he's fat, but he's a little bulky.)
Bob- voiced by James Marsters (bob's my favorite voice in the audiobooks)
Thomas: Josh Hartnet or Ryan Rynalds
Sanya- can't remember his name but the guy who wrote and played the giant black werewolf in Underworld.
Marcone: Eric Roberts (Marcone was Eric Roberts in my head even before Dark Knight)
Murphy: Charleze Theron
Susan: Gina Torez (come on, don't you want to see her in that outfit she wears in the final scene?)
Uriel: Alexander Skaarsgard
Odin: Liam Neson
Mab: Cate Blanchet
Lea:  Juliane Moore
Molly: lindsay fonseca (see Kick-Ass)
Arianna: Riana (if she can act)
Martin: Joe Pantelione (head in a bag!)
Butters: Zach Galafinakus
Gard- Rebecca Romijn

And just for shits and giggles:
Mother Summer: Imma P. Hall (old lady in the Ladykillers)
Mother Winter: Betty White



No to most of these.

Eric Roberts as Marcone, Liam Neeson as Odin, and Kevin Grevioux as Sanya, are pretty good choices.

Cate Blanchett would make a better Lea.

And Julianne Moore shouldn't be in here at all, just because she has red hair does suit her to play Lea.

Alexander Skarsgard would be a great Kincaid, not Uriel.

Uriel should be a gentle mysterious type figure, like a Anthony Hopkins type.

Lyndsy Fonseca as Molly.........she is the right age......maybe she could.

Riana!?! is that because her name is in Ariana!?! I think this is a bad choice.

Joe Pantoliano as Martin. This could work. Yes.

Rebecca Romijn as Gard....maybe.....she was a good Mystique... so yes to this one.

Butters: Zach Galafinakus. NO (he isn't even close to the physical appearance)
Susan: Gina Torres. NO (she doesn't compare to the other choices)
Murphy: Charleze Theron. NO (because I don't like her)
Thomas: Josh Hartnet. NO (he can't act very well)
Thomas: Ryan Reynolds. NO (he is too snarky for Thomas)
Dresden: Nathan Fillion. NO (I was never a fan of this idea, so sue me)
Bob: voiced by James Marsters. Well naturally this would be a yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Karry Shipper on August 03, 2010, 06:36:27 PM
Dresden: Nathan Fillion
Bob: James Marsters
Thomas: Allan Hyde/Orlando Bloom
Sanya: Sean Blakemore
Murphy: Aaaahh, I can't pick!   :-\
Susan: Olivia Wilde
Kincaid: Alexander Skaarsgard - yes he would be so good! (sorry to steal your idea, Mo)  :)
Mab: Angelina Jolie
Morgan: Ryan O'Neal
Molly: Deborah Ann Woll
Butters: Simon Helberg/ John Francis Daley
Michael: Michael C. Hall (beefed up a bit ^^)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 03, 2010, 06:58:22 PM
Dresden: Nathan Fillion
Bob: James Marsters
Thomas: Allan Hyde/Orlando Bloom
Sanya: Sean Blakemore
Murphy: Aaaahh, I can't pick!   :-\
Susan: Olivia Wilde
Kincaid: Alexander Skaarsgard - yes he would be so good! (sorry to steal your idea, Mo)  :)
Mab: Angelina Jolie
Morgan: Ryan O'Neal
Molly: Deborah Ann Woll
Butters: Simon Helberg/ John Francis Daley
Michael: Michael C. Hall (beefed up a bit ^^)

Dresden: Nathan Fillion. No (even though he won the poll)
Bob: James Marsters. Yes
Thomas: Allan Hyde. Maybe(because I like Godric)
Thomas: Orlando Bloom. Heck No (page 53)
Sanya: Sean Blakemore. No (he isn't famous enough)
Murphy: Aaaahh, I can't pick!   :-\
Susan: Olivia Wilde. Yes (i like this choice)
Kincaid: Alexander Skaarsgard. Yes
Mab: Angelina Jolie. Yes, originally for me it was her or Monica Belucci.
Morgan: Ryan O'Neal. No (i don't know him, there have been too many better picks)
Molly: Deborah Ann Woll. Yes
Butters: Simon Helberg. Yes
Butters: John Francis Daley. No (if he was older, yes)
Michael: Michael C. Hall. Maybe, he looks the part, but I don't know if I could not think of Dexter.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Karry Shipper on August 03, 2010, 07:06:38 PM
Haha, I like how your appreciation of Olivia Wilde requires bold type  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 03, 2010, 07:24:37 PM
I can't even remember all of my own choices anymore. I was looking back and it's kind of overwhelming. I will have to build me a new cast, about 90% of my original choices have changed after being on this thread for so long.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on August 03, 2010, 08:43:55 PM
Haha, I like how your appreciation of Olivia Wilde requires bold type  ;D

Olivia Wilde is irish-american, though.  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: spdrknight on August 03, 2010, 09:05:37 PM
Just finished watching the BBC's new Sherlock show. The star, the actor playing Sherlock, is the perfect Harry. His name is Benedict Cumberbatch. Here are two pictures:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_s59ARuFLHSs/TD4StCl0MvI/AAAAAAAACwk/TVYng_zRh68/s1600/446benedict_cumberbatch.jpg
http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/CUMBERBATCH-500.jpg
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on August 03, 2010, 09:43:32 PM
Why not Will Ferrell?  He's got the humour down, and showed that he can carry a staff in Land of the Lost. (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6g6RZi1LXLQSNBvBnYg1irUiJ_EMcagJ2eIzhNXX3oTbpyCY&t=1&usg=__mnPgITF4_qa8B2743PmShQdGklk=)  He even rode a T-Rex, though I can't find pictures of it! (http://media.nola.com/entertainment_impact_tvfilm/photo/landloststilljpg-cc6f7a2f8a985bee.jpg)

/sarcasm
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 04, 2010, 04:21:44 AM
Just finished watching the BBC's new Sherlock show. The star, the actor playing Sherlock, is the perfect Harry. His name is Benedict Cumberbatch. Here are two pictures:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_s59ARuFLHSs/TD4StCl0MvI/AAAAAAAACwk/TVYng_zRh68/s1600/446benedict_cumberbatch.jpg
http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/CUMBERBATCH-500.jpg

loved him. loved the show. love all of it.

but I'm not sure he'd be a great harry - i have to hear his american accent first and see him a little scruffy. He has the body type somewhat, tho
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 04, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
loved him. loved the show. love all of it.

but I'm not sure he'd be a great harry - i have to hear his american accent first and see him a little scruffy. He has the body type somewhat, tho

How can you tell? All I see is coat :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 04, 2010, 12:09:56 PM
How can you tell? All I see is coat :-\

man's a beanpole. I watch the tv show, lol. here's a googled pic:

(http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/b/benedict_cumberbatch/benedict_cumberbatch.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 04, 2010, 02:53:58 PM
He looks like an alien.
(http://www.printactivities.com/ColoringPages/Aliens/Alien-withbowlingball.gif)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 04, 2010, 02:57:19 PM
He looks like an alien.
(http://www.printactivities.com/ColoringPages/Aliens/Alien-withbowlingball.gif)

 :D


weeeeelll beanpole. harry's a beanpole, he's a beanpole..., it fits.

face isn't harry tho
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on August 04, 2010, 07:17:02 PM
:D


weeeeelll beanpole. harry's a beanpole, he's a beanpole..., it fits.

face isn't harry tho
Hmm, give him longer hair and don't let him shave for a few days... might work, but I'd agree with you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 04, 2010, 07:54:03 PM
Hmm, give him longer hair and don't let him shave for a few days... might work, but I'd agree with you.

not to mention, give him a couple of bruises :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 04, 2010, 08:25:35 PM
Why not Will Ferrell?  He's got the humour down, and showed that he can carry a staff in Land of the Lost. (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6g6RZi1LXLQSNBvBnYg1irUiJ_EMcagJ2eIzhNXX3oTbpyCY&t=1&usg=__mnPgITF4_qa8B2743PmShQdGklk=)  He even rode a T-Rex, though I can't find pictures of it! (http://media.nola.com/entertainment_impact_tvfilm/photo/landloststilljpg-cc6f7a2f8a985bee.jpg)

/sarcasm

HELL. N-- oh, wait, you put the sarcasm mark there.  Don't scare me like that.

Dresden: Alexis Denisof
Bob: James Marsters/Jim Butcher blending
Thomas: Michael Weatherly
Sanya: Denzel Washington
Murphy: Olivia Wilde
Susan: Monica Raymund
Kincaid: Logan Marshall-Green (Dark Blue)
Mab: Monica Belucci
Morgan: Anthony Hopkins
Molly: Don't know enough child stars.  I'd have said Becca Gardner, but she's now too old.
Butters: Sean Murray
Michael: Cary Elwes
Uriel: Manny Patinkin
Marcone: Mark Harmon
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 04, 2010, 09:47:38 PM
Bob: Jim Butcher. If you don't believe me, wait until the next signing/con, bring a couple of good Bob passages and beg Jim to read them. You'll be a believer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 04, 2010, 11:02:17 PM
Dresden: Alexis Denisof
Bob: James Marsters/Jim Butcher blending
Thomas: Michael Weatherly
Sanya: Denzel Washington
Susan: Monica Raymund
Mab: Monica Belucci
Butters: Sean Murray
Uriel: Manny Patinkin
Marcone: Mark Harmon

This. This please. Although imo you can also put Michael Weatherly in for Harry and replace thomas with matt Bomer. But this SO THIS.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 04, 2010, 11:04:55 PM
Really?  Thanks!  I'm not changing Harry and Thomas, but thanks!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 04, 2010, 11:12:48 PM
Really?  Thanks!  I'm not changing Harry and Thomas, but thanks!

I rather like your harry - just saying you can also switch it around a bit, lol xD

what can I say, I like most of the actors you put up. :p
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 04, 2010, 11:22:30 PM
Actually...

Dresden: Alexis Denisof
Bob: James Marsters/Jim Butcher blending
Thomas: Michael Weatherly
Sanya: Denzel Washington
Murphy: Olivia Wilde
Susan: Monica Raymund
Kincaid: Logan Marshall-Green (Dark Blue)
Mab: Monica Belucci
Morgan Nicodemus: Anthony Hopkins
Molly: Don't know enough child stars.  I'd have said Becca Gardner, but she's now too old.
Butters: Sean Murray
Michael: Cary Elwes
Uriel: Manny Patinkin
Marcone: Mark Harmon

There.  That's better.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 04, 2010, 11:25:08 PM
Actually...

There.  That's better.

seconded. I don't see Anthony hopkins as morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on August 05, 2010, 01:40:02 AM
I still vote Matt Bomer as Thomas :P

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k192/elledeegee/temporary/wcmb/037.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 05, 2010, 01:52:10 AM
I still vote Matt Bomer as Thomas :P

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k192/elledeegee/temporary/wcmb/037.jpg)

God, I love that picture more and more. Bomer as Thomas is still my choice, too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zolt on August 05, 2010, 02:00:51 AM
Call me weird, but I think Nathan Fillion would work a lot better as a suave, creepy Nicodemus than as Harry. For me, Nic is either him or Neil Patrick Harris.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on August 05, 2010, 02:38:45 AM
On a serious note, Morgan Freeman will /always/ be Uriel to me, regardless of his shapeshifting powers :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 05, 2010, 03:28:26 AM
On a serious note, Morgan Freeman will /always/ be Uriel to me, regardless of his shapeshifting powers :P

That's just because he played God in the "Almighty" movies.  I still say Manny Patinkin is a better choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: miketh on August 05, 2010, 04:17:49 AM
Judgemental, much? :D Seriously though.  I can't imagine another actor portraying him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 05, 2010, 04:30:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-4pWLv5SLE&feature=channel at 2:40

I like Morgan Freeman.  I think he's an awesome actor.  Manny Patinkin just seems to fit better to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 05, 2010, 10:36:40 AM
Judgemental, much?

Go easy on the word choice there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on August 05, 2010, 11:04:43 AM
I still vote Matt Bomer as Thomas :P

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k192/elledeegee/temporary/wcmb/037.jpg)
ooooh yes.

well for
(click to show/hide)
in a few years time i thought of demi lovato . not for acting or anything, just how i thought she might look,
(click to show/hide)

i haven't really got pictures in my mind for other characters, but i've been convinced about Bomer. :)

(http://gossipteen.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/demi-lovato-photos-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 05, 2010, 01:15:39 PM
ooooh yes.

well for
(click to show/hide)
in a few years time i thought of demi lovato . not for acting or anything, just how i thought she might look,
(click to show/hide)

i haven't really got pictures in my mind for other characters, but i've been convinced about Bomer. :)

(http://gossipteen.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/demi-lovato-photos-4.jpg)

I like her. she's one of the few disney 'kids' I like.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on August 05, 2010, 01:51:04 PM
That's just because he played God in the "Almighty" movies.  I still say Manny Patinkin is a better choice.

Mandy Patinkin, as in "Oh Mandy...As Inigo, you were in a bother...
From the six-fingered man;
oh Mandy...by film's end you'd avenged your father...oh Mandy.
"

From The Princess Bride as performed by Manilow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 05, 2010, 02:00:15 PM
Mandy Patinkin ftw.

jim has a harry, and has a susan, and a morgan, i think.

does he have one for murph?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 05, 2010, 02:17:26 PM
Mandy Patinkin, as in "Oh Mandy...As Inigo, you were in a bother...
From the six-fingered man;
oh Mandy...by film's end you'd avenged your father...oh Mandy.
"

From The Princess Bride as performed by Manilow.

Oh god. I'm laughing and cringing inside. Laughing b/c of the Manilow mock up, and cringing b/c I can't hear this song anymore without hearing David Boreanaz sing it on Angel. If there was a horror-stricken emoticon, I'd use it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on August 05, 2010, 02:47:00 PM
Oh god. I'm laughing and cringing inside. Laughing b/c of the Manilow mock up, and cringing b/c I can't hear this song anymore without hearing David Boreanaz sing it on Angel. If there was a horror-stricken emoticon, I'd use it.

I do this stuff all the time, to the eternal horror of The Dear Wife.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on August 05, 2010, 02:50:48 PM
I'm speechless.... :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 05, 2010, 03:38:31 PM
Zoe Saldana as Arianna Ortega.
Originally I thought Katherine Zeta Jones would have been a good match for Don Paolo Ortega, but when I think about the fight scene at the Red King's....place, I think Zoe Saldana would be better, and Arianna is suppose to look young even though I picture Don Ortega as an older looking guy, probably what Antonio Banderas looks like now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 05, 2010, 03:41:11 PM
Earlier, I was weirdly thinking of Robert Downey Jr. as Marcone. O.o

can someone say I'm not losing it? would he work as Marcone?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 05, 2010, 03:42:56 PM
Earlier, I was weirdly thinking of Robert Downey Jr. as Marcone. O.o

can someone say I'm not losing it? would he work as Marcone?

ummm.... I don't think I can see him as Marcone. I could see him as Nicodemus though.

Honestly tho, I think he is too high profile now because of Iron Man. I would be weary to cast any super high profile actors that aren't playing Harry.

For example, Johhny Depp, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 05, 2010, 03:45:58 PM
ummm.... I don't think I can see him as Marcone. I could see him as Nicodemus though.

at least I'm not losing my mind yet. I keep trying to put in my favorite actors into the casting. >>
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 05, 2010, 03:48:57 PM
at least I'm not losing my mind yet. I keep trying to put in my favorite actors into the casting. >>

That's what I did too, but I get so overwhelmed because I like so many actors and actresses, and even with the large set of DF characters I couldn't possibly put in all my favorites.

I could easily make a list of 100 actors or actresses that I like.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 05, 2010, 03:55:38 PM
That's what I did too, but I get so overwhelmed because I like so many actors and actresses, and even with the large set of DF characters I couldn't possibly put in all my favorites.

I could easily make a list of 100 actors or actresses that I like.

I don't really reach a hundred, lol, so yeah. ;)

Yeah, I know what you mean. he's too high profile now. I would actually prefer to cast a not-so-known cast for DF.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 05, 2010, 04:13:44 PM
I started going back through the thread and I got to page 7 and my head felt like it was going to explode. What's really crazy is there are some suggestions I never ever seen before that are actually ones I thought I came up with.

The reason I say my head feels like it's going to explode is because just by page 7 there were over 50 actors mentioned, imagine if you went through the entire thread and copied every actor mentioned into one list. I would guess it would be at least 200 actors and 150 actresses mentioned.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on August 05, 2010, 04:36:30 PM
Mandy Patinkin, as in "Oh Mandy...As Inigo, you were in a bother...
From the six-fingered man;
oh Mandy...by film's end you'd avenged your father...oh Mandy.
"

From The Princess Bride as performed by Manilow.

I'm speechless.... :D

You like?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: JessE on August 05, 2010, 06:49:16 PM
God, I love that picture more and more. Bomer as Thomas is still my choice, too.
I agree! xD
WOW, he really does look like the guy that I pictured as Thomas!
And he is totally suave, could definitely pull off being white court!
 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 06, 2010, 01:15:03 AM
I agree! xD
WOW, he really does look like the guy that I pictured as Thomas!
And he is totally suave, could definitely pull off being white court!
 

and I think he looks like a very, very hot Harry, too - but not uite, just enough to be his bro. haha.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 06, 2010, 02:48:13 AM
Mandy Patinkin, as in "Oh Mandy...As Inigo, you were in a bother...
From the six-fingered man;
oh Mandy...by film's end you'd avenged your father...oh Mandy.
"

From The Princess Bride as performed by Manilow.

... you broke my brain. Good, maybe I'll be able to sleep tonight, what with the newly nonfunctional brain.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on August 06, 2010, 03:05:49 AM
You like?

um... yeah, it's both amazingly talented... and very very creepy!  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 06, 2010, 03:39:14 AM
The man has talent.  Both TC, Patinkin, and Manilow.

Sorry, came down with a brief bout of insanity.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: snowbank on August 06, 2010, 03:46:24 AM
Although I adore Nathan Fillion, I can't see him as Harry. Just too good-humored in my mind.

I voted for Hugh Jackman as Harry, because of the height and lankiness mostly. And I think he can do dark.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 06, 2010, 04:01:43 AM
I do this stuff all the time, to the eternal horror of The Dear Wife.

Out of curiosity, what other songs have you bastardized? :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 06, 2010, 04:06:19 AM
Out of curiosity, what other songs have you bastardized? :D

I'm no TC, but I'm pretty sure if I dig, I can find my rendition of Motley Crue's "squirrels squirrels squirrels"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 06, 2010, 04:09:07 AM
I'm no TC, but I'm pretty sure if I dig, I can find my rendition of Motley Crue's "squirrels squirrels squirrels"

*facepalm*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 06, 2010, 04:11:02 AM
*facepalm*

;D

The song was playing on the radio, and my sister up and says, "Why are they singing about Squirrels?"

It was less a facepalm moment and more a rolling around laughing moment.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 06, 2010, 04:12:03 AM
;D

The song was playing on the radio, and my sister up and says, "Why are they singing about Squirrels?"

It was less a facepalm moment and more a rolling around laughing moment.

LOL. That's horrible. As a Crue fan that is truly and utterly horrible :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on August 06, 2010, 04:26:17 AM
The man has talent.  Both TC, Patinkin, and Manilow.

Sorry, came down with a brief bout of insanity.

You know you like him. You're just scared to admit it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 06, 2010, 04:27:30 AM
You know you like him. You're just scared to admit it.

Yes, because I blare copacabana at all hours of the day

/sarcasm
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 06, 2010, 04:32:51 AM
Although I adore Nathan Fillion, I can't see him as Harry. Just too good-humored in my mind.

I voted for Hugh Jackman as Harry, because of the height and lankiness mostly. And I think he can do dark.



I feel the same way. I love Fillion, and I love Jackman (and I voted for Jackman in part thanks to this (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2772/4268654637_a5b03cbaa3_o.jpg) image and story) but Fillion has played some dark characters in the past, and if he's a part of the Dresden Files cast, I'd rather see him... still prominent, but not the lead. However, as tall and lanky as Jackman is, he's still older than even Changes-era Harry, which is a bit... unbelievable if he started off from the beginning of the books. Harry is around 27 at the start of the series, so he would have to be played, at least at the start, by someone who is at the earlier end of the 27 to 30 year old spectrum.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 06, 2010, 04:33:34 AM
Yes, because I blare copacabana at all hours of the day

/sarcasm

.....

Jon, why do you know this song?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 06, 2010, 04:37:55 AM
.....

Jon, why do you know this song?

The Darkness (my brother) is a Manilow fan, though I have my suspicions about his being my "brother".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 06, 2010, 04:48:21 AM
The Darkness (my brother) is a Manilow fan, though I have my suspicions about his being my "brother".

O.O

<--- is speechless. And frightened.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: snowbank on August 06, 2010, 05:05:29 AM
Actually, after consideration I remember Nathan Fillion did Caleb on Buffy. He was pure evil there. I think he's too bulky for my internal picture of Harry, though.

Cory Monteith from Glee is 6' 4", and he's 25. I don't know if he could play weathered enough for Harry, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on August 06, 2010, 05:18:54 AM
;D

The song was playing on the radio, and my sister up and says, "Why are they singing about Squirrels?"

It was less a facepalm moment and more a rolling around laughing moment.

I always disliked No Doubt and a friend used to like the song "Don't Speak" but I couldn't stand it so I made my own lyrics and sang the following over the chorus:

"Don't play this song because I hate it, it's really over rated, don't play it cause it hurts... hurts my ears..." :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on August 06, 2010, 05:22:52 AM
I agree! xD
WOW, he really does look like the guy that I pictured as Thomas!
And he is totally suave, could definitely pull off being white court!
 

When I read Changes, it was really weird cause immediately I pictured the scene where he first shows up and I'm like mentally saying: "OMG it's Matt Bomer!" cause I was seeing it like I was watching tv (and I was reading it for the first time which is odd i could see the scene so clearly in my head) and i see MB walk in playing Thomas. It just blew my mind and made me smile like an idiot. *giggles like a school girl* ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jennyaxe on August 06, 2010, 12:20:40 PM
Having just read through the entire thread, I'm astounded that nobody has posted the only true Thomas yet - John Barrowman. Because for playing a guy that is so sexy everyone wants him, there's nobody else who has as much experience. And he can totally do suave as well as dolled-up in fairy wings:

(http://www.mp3lyrics.org/j/john-barrowman/john-barrowman_2.Jpg)

For a bonus, here's him kissing James Marsters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_0Tdq7F3LI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_0Tdq7F3LI)

I'll be in my bunk.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 06, 2010, 01:11:41 PM
Having just read through the entire thread, I'm astounded that nobody has posted the only true Thomas yet - John Barrowman.

It's not that astounding. He is 43, and he doesn't look like a predatory angel, more like a soccer coach. 10 years ago I would have said maybe.

And that picture you posted is ancient, here is a more recent one.
(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jun2009/7/6/news-pics-30-06-09-image-1-125934988.jpg)

And tho it pains me to say this, he is not as good a choice as Matt Bomer.

Only reason I am still on the fence about Matt Bomer is because I have not seen any of the shows he is on. I didn't watch Tru Calling, and I haven't watched White Collar, tho this is apparently an amazing show.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: snowbank on August 06, 2010, 01:27:38 PM
I started watching Torchwood from Netflix because I heard James Marsters was on it. CAN'T WAIT TO GET SEASON 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 06, 2010, 01:40:51 PM
Only reason I am still on the fence about Matt Bomer is because I have not seen any of the shows he is on. I didn't watch Tru Calling, and I haven't watched White Collar, tho this is apparently an amazing show.


OH MY GOSH. HE was that cute guy from Tru Calling? *recalls* *facepalm* D'oh! He was so awesome and hot in there. xD

Have you seen the first season of Chuck? :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 06, 2010, 01:48:53 PM
I always disliked No Doubt and a friend used to like the song "Don't Speak" but I couldn't stand it so I made my own lyrics and sang the following over the chorus:

"Don't play this song because I hate it, it's really over rated, don't play it cause it hurts... hurts my ears..." :P

LMFAO!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 06, 2010, 01:53:31 PM
mmm... can michael weatherly stand as harry if denisof ain't around? :D

(http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6959/a6c8bj3.jpg) thoughts?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 06, 2010, 02:02:40 PM
mmm... can michael weatherly stand as harry if denisof ain't around? :D

To me he looks like a Michael in this picture because the rugged beard.

Harry strikes me as haggard not rugged.

When I think rugged, I think Michael Carpenter because he is a carpenter.  ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 06, 2010, 02:03:55 PM
OH MY GOSH. HE was that cute guy from Tru Calling? *recalls* *facepalm* D'oh! He was so awesome and hot in there. xD



(http://www.mattbomerfan.com/gallery/albums/trucalling/120stills/normal_001.jpg)

It's a bad pic, but, lol, look! he's holding flowers :D

Fun little trivia fact -- Bomer was director Brett Ratner's pic to play Superman in the movie Superman Returns. He got ousted when Ratner left, and Brian Singer took over, placing Brandon Routh in the role :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 06, 2010, 02:05:36 PM
eh, i don't want him to be saddled with superman forever, anyway
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 06, 2010, 02:16:11 PM
Fun little trivia fact -- Bomer was director Brett Ratner's pic to play Superman in the movie Superman Returns. He got ousted when Ratner left, and Brian Singer took over, placing Brandon Routh in the role :-\

They shouldn't have switched up, Ratner should have stuck w/Superman and Singer should have stayed on X3, because both movies ending up sucking eggs.

Singer is a good director, I just feel like Superman was super mediocre.

And Ratner... i dunno, I liked the first Rush Hour then they progressively got worse, I liked the Family Man for what it was, Red Dragon was ok, After the Sunset was goofy as hell, and X3 could have been better, not a total bang-up job, but I expected better.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 06, 2010, 04:39:07 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 07, 2010, 12:58:21 AM
Seconded. I'd rather he be saddled with the Master Thief moniker as Neil Caffrey than the dude in skin tight leathers with his underwear on the outside (I never did understand that suit choice. Was that aesthetic? Or was that just the creator's way of subtly cracking on the character?)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 07, 2010, 01:07:38 AM
Seconded. I'd rather he be saddled with the Master Thief moniker as Neil Caffrey than the dude in skin tight leathers with his underwear on the outside (I never did understand that suit choice. Was that aesthetic? Or was that just the creator's way of subtly cracking on the character?)

Third-ed. And besides, everytime I look at MAtt Bomer, he doesn't scream Superman to me.... he's more of like this... suave....Thomas-esque guy. haha.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 07, 2010, 01:12:37 AM
Third-ed. And besides, everytime I look at MAtt Bomer, he doesn't scream Superman to me.... he's more of like this... suave....Thomas-esque guy. haha.

Heh. Everytime I look at Matt Bomer, I have to restrain myself from letting out several RAWRS of approval and keeling over in a tizzy. I'd write to him and tell him to stop being so attractive, except... you know, that'd be of the very bad. And then he couldn't be Thomas. Which would break my heart.


shameless self-promotion: by the way, completely off-topic, I have opened a new topic of discussion on the official Avengers casting. It's in the Media Favorites sub-section of the forums.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on August 07, 2010, 06:14:20 AM
OH MY GOSH. HE was that cute guy from Tru Calling? *recalls* *facepalm* D'oh! He was so awesome and hot in there. xD

Have you seen the first season of Chuck? :)

The only reason I found out about White Collar and Matt Bomer at all (I had been staying FAR away from tv for a while) was I accidentally saw the season ender for season 2 of Chuck and I see this cute guy
(click to show/hide)
and it just made me blink cause that sort of thing just draws me in. Seeing a guy in danger and all and I wanted to know more and I went back and watched all the eps he had in Chuck through the end again, then I looked him up for Traveler and TruCalling (found the season he's in for cheap at a local second hand store and watched it all) then got into WC meanwhile and caught up till they started the 2nd half of the first season with new eps this last January.

I also chanced watching a movie I wouldn't normally watch "Texas Chainsaw Massacre: the beginning" cause he was in it. Don't recommend it for the faint of heart or what happens to him (
(click to show/hide)
) but he's cute in that too.

He's in flightplan as a steward but doesn't have many lines or scenes but he's there.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on August 08, 2010, 01:13:52 PM
Frank Miller and Jim butcher should collaborate. A joint writing and directing of the movie. Quentin Tarantino or Robert Rodriguez could produce... perhaps both.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 08, 2010, 02:37:28 PM
Frank Miller should maybe write, but not Direct.

The only movie he ever directed himself was The Spirit and that turned out pretty bad.

Then again why have Frank Miller write at all, he might butt heads with Jim's writing since Frank Miller is a pretty strong writer too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: uncanny on August 08, 2010, 03:29:12 PM
Frank Miller should maybe write, but not Direct.

The only movie he ever directed himself was The Spirit and that turned out pretty bad.

Then again why have Frank Miller write at all, he might butt heads with Jim's writing since Frank Miller is a pretty strong writer too.
Eh.. compared to how some of those comic-book-to-screen adaptations go; I didn't think it was too bad.  Though the movie was carried more by the actors than the director methinks..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 09, 2010, 05:43:47 AM
So what is the official tally on characters we want for the roles? I know Fillion pretty much won the poll, but I think that the majority of us agree that he doesn't seem very Harry-ish as much as he does Michael-ish. I still personally hold out for Jared Padalecki, due to his age, height, and not to mention the utterly ridiculous resemblance he bears to the Harry on the front cover of Welcome To The Jungle. (W2TJ cover (http://reviewfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/dresden.jpg) // Jared Padalecki (http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/Untitled.jpg?t=1281332408)), SMG for Murphy b/c of her personal and professional experience in martial arts, age, height and build, Matt Bomer for Thomas just because (;D) and Deborah Ann Woll for Molly from PG to the present.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: The Blue King on August 09, 2010, 08:13:31 AM
My choices are going to sound odd, but here goes...

Nicodemus - Jean Reno. For some reason, whenever I was reading about Nicodemus in the books, I would see Jean Reno in my head.

Morgan - Sean Bean.

Kincaid - Daniel Craig. Once again, it's who the character always resembled in my head.

Pat Morita would've made an awesome Shiro, but he's dead, so no go there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Karry Shipper on August 09, 2010, 11:44:57 AM
I vote Deborah Ann Woll as Molly, too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 09, 2010, 01:14:19 PM
At first I agreed with Deborah Ann Woll as Molly, but now I think she may be too tall. Now I kind of think she would make a better Lea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 09, 2010, 02:21:46 PM
At first I agreed with Deborah Ann Woll as Molly, but now I think she may be too tall. Now I kind of think she would make a better Lea.

How tall is she? The books describe Molly and Charity both as just under 6 feet tall.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 09, 2010, 02:24:42 PM
My choices are going to sound odd, but here goes...

Nicodemus - Jean Reno. For some reason, whenever I was reading about Nicodemus in the books, I would see Jean Reno in my head.

Morgan - Sean Bean.

Kincaid - Daniel Craig. Once again, it's who the character always resembled in my head.

Pat Morita would've made an awesome Shiro, but he's dead, so no go there.

I think at one point I actually had Jean Reno down as Morgan, but that was before I changed my vote on Morgan to Clancy Brown, and Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus. I have Christian Kane listed as Kincaid. And we're agreed on the last point. Pat Morita would have been amazing :(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 09, 2010, 03:18:29 PM
I was going to suggest Mako Iwamatsu (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0538683/) as Shiro, but I just found out he died like 4 years ago.
(http://www.nndb.com/people/902/000031809/mako.jpg)
Plus he would have been 76ish now, that would have probably been a little too old.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 09, 2010, 03:40:21 PM
I was going to suggest Mako Iwamatsu (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0538683/) as Shiro, but I just found out he died like 4 years ago.
(http://www.nndb.com/people/902/000031809/mako.jpg)
Plus he would have been 76ish now, that would have probably been a little too old.

*sniffles* Mako was amazing. Most recently he was the voice of Splinter from the TMNT movie, and the voice for Uncle Iroh for almost all three season of Avatar: The Last Airbender. He died before he could finish season 3 of Avatar.

How exactly old do you see Shiro? Because I saw him as being in his late 60s.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on August 09, 2010, 04:38:25 PM
Why not do an animated film instead of Live Action then you simply need to worry about voice/acting skills instead of physical limitations. Just a thought- it could be serious CGI stuff.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 09, 2010, 05:31:41 PM
Why not do an animated film instead of Live Action then you simply need to worry about voice/acting skills instead of physical limitations. Just a thought- it could be serious CGI stuff.

Very true. You can do a lot more with animation than you can with live-action/CGI, and it costs less.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on August 09, 2010, 05:46:57 PM
Animated would be perfect!

I see a TV Show on HBO, though as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on August 09, 2010, 10:59:16 PM
Very true. You can do a lot more with animation than you can with live-action/CGI, and it costs less.
Sounds good.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 10, 2010, 02:24:31 AM
Sounds good.

plus, we wouldn't be eternally bitching about the actors and how they DON'T look like the characters, lol. It wouldn't matter, and we wouldn't lose our minds over it. Mwahaha.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 10, 2010, 08:54:37 PM
Something about live action seems to make it the pinnacle of adaptation.

Most things seem to get adapted to live action and rarely vice versa.

For example anime usually comes first then a live action, not an anime based off a live action film.

Video games are sometimes adapted to film. In reverse games based off movies usually suck.

Animation also appeals to a much narrower crowd.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 10, 2010, 11:29:30 PM
mrm, animation would be really good. the effects of what harry does would look great in it, too.

and James Marsters can voice. xD

but anyway, we could just make it into some sort of serious-type animation.

or what about kinda like those final fantasy animated type stuff..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on August 11, 2010, 12:27:23 AM
...and James Marsters can voice. xD...
So all that needs to be done is animate the books and overlay his readings (with the descriptions removed) ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fox on August 11, 2010, 12:35:37 AM
Something about live action seems to make it the pinnacle of adaptation.

Most things seem to get adapted to live action and rarely vice versa.

For example anime usually comes first then a live action, not an anime based off a live action film.

Video games are sometimes adapted to film. In reverse games based off movies usually suck.

Animation also appeals to a much narrower crowd.

Video games that get made into movies tend to suck, and movie-based video games usually suck as well.  So far the crossing over rarely works in either direction (with some exceptions).

I think Highlander was adapted to an anime.  And I heard recently that Supernatural is getting an anime adaptation as well.
Plus there are tons of movies that have been adapted into American Cartoons (though not always clearly related to the original film):
Ghost Busters
Clerks
Godzilla
The Mummy
The Mighty Ducks
Robocop
Star Wars (a couple of 'em)
Teen Wolf
Police Academy
Beetlejuice
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures
The Wizard of Oz
Back to the Future
Dumb and Dumber
The Mask
Men in Black
King Kong

among others.

(sorry, once I got onto Wikipedia I got a little carried away.  :-\  ::) )
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 11, 2010, 12:36:42 AM
So all that needs to be done is animate the books and overlay his readings (with the descriptions removed) ;D


I'd like mini narrations like they did in the tv show :p
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjmcc13 on August 11, 2010, 12:52:05 AM
I think Highlander was adapted to an anime.
THere is an anime movie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander:_The_Search_for_Vengeance), but there is also THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRQHOc2gS-M)...
The Wizard of Oz
This one does not really count as a movie being adapted, it is more of a novel series being adapted.
I'd like mini narrations like they did in the tv show :p
Some parts would need to be left, as they would work as narration.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 11, 2010, 12:56:56 AM
And I heard recently that Supernatural is getting an anime adaptation as well.

It is, and it looks completely badass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SoTKfHsais)!! And bonus, Jared and Jensen are reprising their roles for the character's voices. At least for the first season.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 11, 2010, 01:11:50 AM
Some parts would need to be left, as they would work as narration.

Building was on fire and it wasn't my fault is a personal favorite.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 11, 2010, 01:55:23 AM
Building was on fire and it wasn't my fault is a personal favorite.

Mine too! (Of course, I'm biased, since Blood Rites was the first Dresden book I read.)

I can seriously imagine this, just as easily as I did while reading the book.

Black screen. Then you hear "Harry's" voice: "The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault."
BAM! Animated flames start eating at the black screen, dissolving it until animated Harry bursts through the middle of it all, booking it through the school with an armful of Puppies In A Box as Baby!Mouse yips indignantly at flying, napalm-flaming-poo-flinging monkeys chase them.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on August 11, 2010, 02:02:10 AM
Great opening of a movie!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 12, 2010, 01:28:12 PM
Nicolas Cage should play Harry Dresden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 12, 2010, 03:09:16 PM
Nicolas Cage should play Harry Dresden.

i dunno if you're kidding, but it's not such a bad idea. but... well he's too oldddd.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 12, 2010, 08:19:22 PM
Nicolas Cage should play Harry Dresden.

I might die. And not from happiness.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 12, 2010, 08:29:57 PM
Also he's just been an awful actor recently.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 12, 2010, 08:44:14 PM
Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus. I have Christian Kane listed as Kincaid.

I like Mark Sheppard.  Mark Sheppard is awesome.  Sir Anthony Hopkins can pull off the maniacal evil gentleman better, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 12, 2010, 08:45:14 PM
yeah but he's a bit old, don't you think? Maybe as Cassius...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 12, 2010, 08:46:53 PM
yeah but he's a bit old, don't you think? Maybe as Cassius...

You mean as Cassius after he loses the coin?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 12, 2010, 08:57:48 PM
yeah but he's a bit old, don't you think? Maybe as Cassius...

nivvr says Nic looks like a young man.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 12, 2010, 09:14:17 PM
"Mid thirties to early fourties" from the books.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 12, 2010, 10:23:16 PM
"Mid thirties to early fourties" from the books.

Plus, Mark Sheppard is excellent as evil smarmy demonic... demon.

Crowley - Supernatural Episode 10 -- Abandon All Hope (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADnpH-lCqdg)

And this is just as King of The Crossroads, baby! Just imagine him as a roughly-two-thousand year old fallen angel!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 13, 2010, 01:52:37 AM
Heck, Mark Sheppard's been in just about every single fantasy/SF/paranormal TV show in the past 5 years, so he'd HAVE to have a chair for this one. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 13, 2010, 03:10:20 AM
SHECKY ENDORSED MARK SHEPPARD! IT'S OFFICIAL!!!!

I hereby decree by my nonexistent authority and the desire to see a completely awesome Dresden cast that Mark Sheppard WILL have a role in a Dresden feature!!! So there  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on August 13, 2010, 05:25:40 AM
Remember who suggested Mark Sheppard.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kebran on August 13, 2010, 07:14:25 AM
Also he's just been an awful actor recently.

if by recently you mean everthing after Raising Arizona, then you are correct.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 13, 2010, 03:44:20 PM
SHECKY ENDORSED MARK SHEPPARD! IT'S OFFICIAL!!!!

I hereby decree by my nonexistent authority and the desire to see a completely awesome Dresden cast that Mark Sheppard WILL have a role in a Dresden feature!!! So there  :P

Of course.  He needs a role.  But I see Anthony Hopkins as more of a Nicodemus than Mark Sheppard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 13, 2010, 04:20:37 PM
Robert Knepper would be a good Nicodemus, even though he is over the age Nic is suppose to look like.
(http://media.herald-dispatch.com/blog/tuned/uploaded_images/Robert-Knepper--Michael-Lavine-792000.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wvincagold on August 13, 2010, 06:50:18 PM
I think Josh Brolin would make a better Nicodemus personally. (http://www.availableimages.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/josh-brolin.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on August 13, 2010, 09:21:40 PM
Nicolas. Cage as Martin
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on August 13, 2010, 11:39:47 PM
Nicolas. Cage as Martin

I say Keanu Reeves. He has the perfect facial expression for it.  :o

(http://www.topnews.in/files/keanu-reeves.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 14, 2010, 01:47:25 AM
I say Keanu Reeves. He has the perfect facial expression for it.  :o

(http://www.topnews.in/files/keanu-reeves.jpg)

I say ditto to this. Nicolas Cage can do expressions.

Keanu, however... well, can't.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: animals on August 14, 2010, 03:13:53 AM
Keanu also cannot act...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 14, 2010, 03:29:33 AM
Keanu also cannot act...

...indeed, but he's got most of the part down. that's his only problem.

doesn't seem like he has to, as Martin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shadowlost on August 14, 2010, 03:45:42 AM
Eh. I see Bruce Willis as Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 14, 2010, 05:10:14 AM
Eh. I see Bruce Willis as Harry.

Except for the bald bit.

At this point is Bruce shaving his head, or is he actually bald now?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 14, 2010, 05:39:32 AM
I tend to picture him like the detectiveish covers of the books but when I picture him as an actor it is definately Jared Padalecki. Alot of that is because, if you look at a hardcover copy of the Dresden comic "Welcome To The Jungle," you'll see that that artists rendition must have been based on Jared. Not kidding, his spitting image. Still, maybe Jared is too young to play him...I guess I wouldn't be hostle about someone else.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Beau on August 14, 2010, 09:45:27 PM
Maybe Zachary Levi as Harry.

Matt Bomer as Thomas

Eric Roberts as Gentlemen Johnny Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 14, 2010, 10:24:00 PM
Matt Bomer as Thomas

Wouldn't that be awesome! Not the way I picture him - the book Thomas being curly haired and all - but still awesome!  He's got that vibe...he could sell incubus no problem. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 14, 2010, 11:23:16 PM
Wouldn't that be awesome! Not the way I picture him - the book Thomas being curly haired and all - but still awesome!  He's got that vibe...he could sell incubus no problem. :D

I AM SO GLAD THIS IDEA HAS CAUGHT ON!!!!

:D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 15, 2010, 01:04:23 AM
I AM SO GLAD THIS IDEA HAS CAUGHT ON!!!!

:D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

I take it you are a huge Whitecollar fan? Personally I liked him better in the role I saw him in first, Bryce Larkin in Chuck, or his role as Tru's boyfriend in Tru Calling, but he is pretty awesome. To be that much of a fan I assume you are a girl? Or do you just think Thomas deserves a cool actor?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on August 15, 2010, 01:27:36 AM
I...  I have to go back and state that anyone who is under the impression that HUGH FREAKIN' JACKMAN is lanky is unaware of what "lanky" means.

Lanky means tall, thin, gangly, all knees and elbows.  Hugh Jackman is built like a freaking Mack truck.  He's broad and heavily muscled, even at his leanest.  Lanky is... the guy who plays Carlton Lassiter on Psych.  Or heck, Lou Diamond Phillips until he takes off his shirt and you realize he's all ripped muscle under those narrow clothes.  Ryan Reynolds is the same way, when he's not bulking up for a movie role.  He's tall and his arms seem too long for his body and he kind of lopes along. And yes, Zach Levi is lanky or at least can appear that way.

If you need me, I'll be lying down with a cold cloth over my eyes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 15, 2010, 01:35:26 AM
I think Josh Brolin would make a better Nicodemus personally. (http://www.availableimages.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/josh-brolin.jpg)

Now that guy could play Nicodemus for sure! I have never been able to picture the character very well - thoughts about how evil and intimidating he is seem to fill up that part of my brain - but I think that guy could really pull him off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 15, 2010, 01:37:37 AM
I take it you are a huge Whitecollar fan? Personally I liked him better in the role I saw him in first, Bryce Larkin in Chuck, or his role as Tru's boyfriend in Tru Calling, but he is pretty awesome. To be that much of a fan I assume you are a girl? Or do you just think Thomas deserves a cool actor?

Let's put it this way. In answer to all of your questions: Yes, yes, and Yes :) I love White Collar (I've never seen Chuck, nor Tru Calling), I AM female, and I think if they cast Bomer as Thomas, Thomas' cool factor, while it is already at rampant Volcano levels of eruption, would, in fact, completely sky rocket. Thomas deserves to be portrayed by someone completely awesome, and I think Bomer is perfect for the role :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 15, 2010, 01:38:37 AM
I...  I have to go back and state that anyone who is under the impression that HUGH FREAKIN' JACKMAN is lanky is unaware of what "lanky" means.

Lanky means tall, thin, gangly, all knees and elbows.  Hugh Jackman is built like a freaking Mack truck.  He's broad and heavily muscled, even at his leanest.  Lanky is... the guy who plays Carlton Lassiter on Psych.  Or heck, Lou Diamond Phillips until he takes off his shirt and you realize he's all ripped muscle under those narrow clothes.  Ryan Reynolds is the same way, when he's not bulking up for a movie role.  He's tall and his arms seem too long for his body and he kind of lopes along. And yes, Zach Levi is lanky or at least can appear that way.

If you need me, I'll be lying down with a cold cloth over my eyes.

*pats Kali's back* It's okay, dear. It'll be okay.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 15, 2010, 01:44:53 AM
I have to say, even with as much as I adore Hugh Jackman, he just isn't skinny enough to play Harry. However, seeing how dedicated he was to getting fitter to play in the Wolverine movie I think he would be capable of getting thin enough to play our scruffy hero if he decided to campaign for the role. And as for Zachary Levi, I think he gives off too much of a clean cut nice guy vibe to play the somewhat shaddy and very sarcastic Harry Dresden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 15, 2010, 01:49:12 AM
Jared Padalecki. That is all.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 15, 2010, 01:51:22 AM
I think if they cast Bomer as Thomas, Thomas' cool factor, while it is already at rampant Volcano levels of eruption, would, in fact, completely sky rocket.

Fellow Thomas fan, I see?  (And of course fellow Bomer fan.) ;) Thomas really is an amazing character - dangerous, noble, tragic, and wickedly funny all at the same time. And romantic, too. Wow, he is awesome, isn't he? ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 15, 2010, 02:02:29 AM
Fellow Thomas fan, I see?  (And of course fellow Bomer fan.) ;) Thomas really is an amazing character - dangerous, noble, tragic, and wickedly funny all at the same time. And romantic, too. Wow, he is awesome, isn't he? ;D

I will extoll the virtues of Thomas Raith (even though he's occasionally not virtuous) until I run out of air. Hee!

And I am very much a Bomer fan :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 15, 2010, 02:09:12 AM
I will extoll the virtues of Thomas Raith (even though he's occasionally not virtuous) until I run out of air. Hee!

And I am very much a Bomer fan :D

"...even though he's occasionally not virtuous" lol! I know what you mean.
(click to show/hide)
I really wanted him to stick to the high road...or at least the kind of high road.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 15, 2010, 02:14:28 AM
Jared Padalecki. That is all.

I totally agree! I had been trying to keep an open mind and consider other options but why bother...Jared all the way.  ;D If you have any reservations about this just look him up. Doesn't this look like our very own Harry Dresden?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 15, 2010, 02:35:08 AM
I totally agree! I had been trying to keep an open mind and consider other options but why bother...Jared all the way.  ;D If you have any reservations about this just look him up. Doesn't this look like our very own Harry Dresden?

I posted this a few days ago, but I posted it as links instead of pictures. :X My bad! Here's the pictures, lol.

(http://reviewfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/dresden.jpg)(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/Untitled.jpg?t=1281332408)


SERIOUSLY, guys. This resemblance is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 15, 2010, 02:37:25 AM
I posted this a few days ago, but I posted it as links instead of pictures. :X My bad! Here's the pictures, lol.

(http://reviewfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/dresden.jpg)(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/ajhofacre0520/Untitled.jpg?t=1281332408)


SERIOUSLY, guys. This resemblance is ridiculous.


Thank you!!!!!!! I posted yesterday about the resemblance on that cover but I didn't have a picture on hand to submit as  evidence.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 15, 2010, 03:11:48 AM
I just wish I could have gotten a bigger picture of the cover, lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 15, 2010, 03:27:48 AM
I still say Alexis Denisof for Harry. Matt Bomer ALWAYS for Thomas (Chuck Fan. Saw him on it. PERFECT. xD(and Tru Calling too, lol). Michael Weatherly for Harry might work too, or Zachary Levi - i think he can pull it off.

Keanu Reeves for Martin. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 15, 2010, 04:15:20 AM
I still say Alexis Denisof for Harry. Matt Bomer ALWAYS for Thomas (Chuck Fan. Saw him on it. PERFECT. xD(and Tru Calling too, lol). Michael Weatherly for Harry might work too, or Zachary Levi - i think he can pull it off.

Keanu Reeves for Martin. xD

Hm... Still in favor of Jared playing Harry but Alexis Denisof might have promise. (And you already know my feelings on the awesome Matt Bomer playing the awesome Thomas.) I'm not so sure about Michael Weatherly as Harry, though. I saw him and loved him in the Dark Angel tv series but he's just not badass enough to play Harry. Nor does he have the high cheek bones I always associate with Harry. (I think I do that because high cheek bones make your face look thinner and we all know that's what Harry is supposed to be.) Anyway, just my thoughts on it.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 15, 2010, 04:32:28 AM
Oh, and Jaeh is right - Kianu Reeves would make a great Martin! No offense to Kianu, who I like...Martin, not so much. (In a like-his-presence-in-the-books-but-totally-understand-what-Harry-doesn't-like-about-him way.) And on the casting Harry note, I actually think Joe Flanigan would be cool for the part in kind of the same way that Chris Evans was cool for Johnny Storm in the FF movies. He's got the right attitude if not the right look. (Although his perpetual bad hair from the Stargate Atlantis series - and come to think of it every other part I've ever seen him in - is very Harry-esque.) Still very pro Jared as Harry but just thought I'd throw that out there.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 15, 2010, 04:38:34 AM
Sorry, I have to vote against Jared Padaleki.  He played Thomas Kinkaid (the "Painter of Light") in a Hall-mark style movie over Christmas.  Kind of ruined him as a tough guy--or even tough-ish guy for me.  I'll never be able to imagine him without a paintbrush in his hand ever again....Try to see him with a wand---and have the wand morph into a brush...nope...just does not work for me....

Just watch a few Supernatural episodes and you should be cured in no time.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 15, 2010, 04:42:21 AM
How about Sarah Roemer as Molly? She did an awesome job in Disturbia and I really think her attitude and look (if she got a trim and a dye) is perfect for Molly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 15, 2010, 05:47:30 AM
Just watch a few Supernatural episodes and you should be cured in no time.  ;)

I dunno. Jared doesn't scream harry to me in supernatural, sorry.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on August 15, 2010, 02:24:03 PM
I don't see Jared as Harry either, and I've watched pretty much every Supernatural episode.  :(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 16, 2010, 01:59:07 PM
I don't see Jared as Harry either, and I've watched pretty much every Supernatural episode.  :(

Thirded. I love Supernatural. I think Jared fits the physical description and age perfectly, I just don't think Padalecki can pull off the snarky Harry Dresden persona.

And though I agree with Denisof (in theory) he is too old now to actually play Harry.

Hugh Jackman might make a good Michael...though I like Viggo Mortensen or Sean Bean more.

Eric Roberts as Marcone would work, though I feel like Eric Roberts would be really cliche considering he has played that same type of character many times. I kind of think Bruce Greenwood would make an ok Marcone, though I think there is probably a better choice. Robert Knepper who I suggested for Nicodemus could probably pull of Marcone too.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 16, 2010, 03:41:19 PM
I can see Sean Bean as Michael.

mmmm. Michael Weatherly as Harry, anyone?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 16, 2010, 04:07:35 PM
who?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: snowbank on August 16, 2010, 04:48:40 PM
who?

Isn't Michael Weatherly 'Tony' on NCIS?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 16, 2010, 04:49:22 PM
Thirded. I love Supernatural. I think Jared fits the physical description and age perfectly, I just don't think Padalecki can pull off the snarky Harry Dresden persona.

You'll never know if you knock him down without finding out. Give him a chance to broaden his acting spectrum a little. He's gonna surprise all of you in the upcoming 6th season of SPN, I guarantee it.

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And though I agree with Denisof (in theory) he is too old now to actually play Harry.

I love Denisof as well, though I believe I agree with you in that he's kind of passed the mark of when playing Harry would have sky-rocketed him. Maybe had they come to him with the idea of a Dresden movie just after finishing Angel, it might have made more sense. If all else fails, Alexis can play Malcolm Dresden in Harry's flashbacks.

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Hugh Jackman might make a good Michael...though I like Viggo Mortensen or Sean Bean more.

I pick Viggo as Michael. I adore Hugh Jackman, and I love, love, love Sean Bean, but I think Viggo hits the nail on the head as far as the character f Michael goes. It is something in Viggo's voice that cements the foundation of Michael, the idea that one man can be so utterly good, so utterly encompassing of every characteristic of a man devoted to his family and his work and his faith that just defines what Michael can be. Go read Aragorn's speeches from the Lord of The Rings and TRY and tell me that some of that doesn't sound like Michael (particularly the speech that Aragorn gives as the Rohirrim and the men of Gondor prepare to attack the Black Gates of Mordor).

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Eric Roberts as Marcone would work, though I feel like Eric Roberts would be really cliche considering he has played that same type of character many times. I kind of think Bruce Greenwood would make an ok Marcone, though I think there is probably a better choice. Robert Knepper who I suggested for Nicodemus could probably pull of Marcone too.

I'm still all for Ray Wise as Marcone, but if you're looking for someone a little younger, why not Bruce Campbell? (and yes, it was your suggestion of Bruce Greenwood -- and the name Bruce -- that made me think of that).


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 16, 2010, 05:23:51 PM
I dunno. Jared doesn't scream harry to me in supernatural, sorry.



I agree that his role as Sam is nothing like Harry...however, there are moments when you can see Harry in him, he has the right Harry look, and he's got the acting ability to pull it off. Not that everyone has to agree with me - just my opinion.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on August 16, 2010, 07:32:08 PM
Bruce Campbell as Harry in an animated forum would be amazing! In this version, the fact that Bruce is old doesn't make a difference.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 16, 2010, 09:50:50 PM
Isn't Michael Weatherly 'Tony' on NCIS?

yep! I think he has snark down well. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 16, 2010, 09:52:51 PM
Isn't Michael Weatherly 'Tony' on NCIS?

Indeed.  And he can pull the serious bit, too, a la "Eyes Only" from Dark Angel
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 17, 2010, 12:48:13 AM
Indeed.  And he can pull the serious bit, too, a la "Eyes Only" from Dark Angel

Maybe. But his still isn't tough guy enough for the trash-talking Harry Desden who can stare down a clan of vampires in nothing but ducky boxers.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 17, 2010, 01:30:23 AM
Maybe. But his still isn't tough guy enough for the trash-talking Harry Desden who can stare down a clan of vampires in nothing but ducky boxers.

NCIS Season 7, episode 1.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 17, 2010, 01:45:24 AM
NCIS Season 7, episode 1.

Its really that decisive? I'm gonna have to look that one up for sure. (And for the record, I do like Michael Weatherly...he just isn't my idea of Harry.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 17, 2010, 01:48:10 AM
Its really that decisive? I'm gonna have to look that one up for sure. (And for the record, I do like Michael Weatherly...he just isn't my idea of Harry.)

well, okay, maybe not that much. But the whole episode just screamed harry to me. especially the part when he gets tortured and still has the audacity to do snarky banter with the bad guy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 17, 2010, 02:01:44 AM
well, okay, maybe not that much. But the whole episode just screamed harry to me. especially the part when he gets tortured and still has the audacity to do snarky banter with the bad guy.

Well, I certainly won't argue that sounding an aweful lot like Harry.  He does kind of do that sort of thing alot. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 17, 2010, 02:12:38 AM
Well, I certainly won't argue that sounding an aweful lot like Harry.  He does kind of do that sort of thing alot. ;)

oh, and he was under truth serum too. I personally think Weatherly can do the whole thing with the stare.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 17, 2010, 02:27:42 AM
oh, and he was under truth serum too. I personally think Weatherly can do the whole thing with the stare.

Oh, I am totally looking that up! I'll let you know what I think.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 17, 2010, 02:31:29 AM
Oh, I am totally looking that up! I'll let you know what I think.

yes.

Mark Harmon for Marcone too, btw. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 17, 2010, 02:49:56 AM
yes.

Mark Harmon for Marcone too, btw. :D

Okay, I'll keep that in mind when I look it up.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: LordDresden on August 17, 2010, 04:58:41 AM
In a previous thread about who we would cast as various characters in the DF, I suggested that Thomas Raith, to me, is Jason Dohring, who played a more traditional kind of vampire on the TV series Moonlight.  To me, this is Thomas Raith:

(http://www.moonlight-detective.com/gallery/albums/cast-season1/normal_jdohring_season1_04.jpg)


But though I find the casting of Lara far more interesting (for obvious reasons) I never could find someone who fit my mental image well, until it suddenly hit me today that the pop singer Katie Perry gets pretty darned close:

(http://www.swotti.com/tmp/swotti/cacheA2F0AWUGCGVYCNK=/imgKatie%20Perry5.jpg)
(http://izismile.com/img/img2/20090313/bonus//4/katy_perry_01.jpg)
(http://www.graziadaily.co.uk/pub/21publish/beauty/KATIE-PERRY.jpg)
(http://images.dailyfill.com/5afcd3cc49a348f0_8e5fa2a7c922c7b8/o/Katie_Perry.jpg)
(http://media.monstersandcritics.com/galleries/1608326/0163975055085.jpg)
(http://images.blog-u.net/old_images/4/443_katie_perry_hot_pics_6.jpg)

The thing is that to me, Lara should combine blatantly sexy with subtle and sweet.  I have do doubt whatsover that anytime she feels the impulse, Lara can suddenly make herself seem so sweet and innocent that she'd make Bambi look like Jason Vorhees in comparison.  And Katie Perry has a knack for projecting the same playfulness that I suspect Lara exudes amid her supernatural sex appeal.

Of course the playful sweetness is a lie...but at the same time it's probably an effective lie precisely because it was once real, and maybe a tiny hint of it remains real somewhere deep down inside in that same place where the remnants of her conscience might just still live.

But when I picture Lara, Katie Perry is who plays her in my mind.



Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: za_lord on August 17, 2010, 07:50:44 AM
admit it...you just want to see her in lingerie toting a pistol lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 17, 2010, 01:12:56 PM
so I'm watching White Collar. omg. O.o wow. I had no doubts about Matt Bomer being Thomas, but this... wow. just...

he's perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 17, 2010, 02:28:59 PM
oh, and he was under truth serum too. I personally think Weatherly can do the whole thing with the stare.

Truth Serum is a load of crap, it doesn't really work, it's like getting someone liquored up to get them to tell you the truth.

The reason I know is because I have had the common version which is Sodium Pentothal and it just made me high, but I could still easily lie.

It's also what the use to knock death row inmates out before giving them Potassium Chloride to stop their heart.

And it is used in surgery as well.

It drops inhibitions but it doesn't make you tell the truth, but unfortunately it has become a movie and tv cliche that they can't seem to get rid of.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 17, 2010, 02:31:14 PM
Truth Serum is a load of crap, it doesn't really work, it's like getting someone liquored up to get them to tell you the truth.

The reason I know is because I have had the common version which is Sodium Pentothal.

It's also what the use to knock death row inmates out before giving them Potassium Chloride to stop their heart.

And it is used in surgery as well.

It drops inhibitions but it doesn't make you tell the truth, but unfortunately it has become a movie and tv cliche that they can't seem to get rid of.

it wasn't really shown as a truth-truth serum. Dinozzo was buying time. But that's how I want to believe it, lol, and that's how I saw it. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 17, 2010, 02:38:50 PM
Truth serum is just one of those pet peeves I have because it's so bogus the way they portray it. It loosens a person up to where they might let the truth slip but it doesn't make them tell the truth.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Analise on August 17, 2010, 03:36:14 PM
(http://www.showbizgossips.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/james_franco_971.jpg)

I'm still stuck on James Franco for Thomas. He is, pretty much, what Thomas looks like in my head.

I have no idea who'd be Lara though I'd think it would be a little more vampy/sultry than Katie Perry. More on the Dita von Teese end of the spectrum, I imagine.

A friend of mine has someone really good for Justine, but the name is not coming to mind. Agh. Will edit later when I remember who it is.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 17, 2010, 04:32:48 PM
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.0.html

thread on casting, guys. >.<

and Matt Bomer for Thomas, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 17, 2010, 05:16:22 PM
so I'm watching White Collar. omg. O.o wow. I had no doubts about Matt Bomer being Thomas, but this... wow. just...

he's perfect.

THIS
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: snowbank on August 17, 2010, 07:17:27 PM
James Franco is very cute, but not pale enough for the White Court, imo.

I ADORE Jason Doehring, but I'm not sure Thomas is right for him. Although they call it acting for a reason. I think we lock actors into roles WE think they do best, without giving them room to stretch. Jason is pale enough, the hair would need changing. And I'm not sure how tall he is.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 17, 2010, 07:28:05 PM
James Franco is very cute, but not pale enough for the White Court, imo.

I ADORE Jason Doehring, but I'm not sure Thomas is right for him. Although they call it acting for a reason. I think we lock actors into roles WE think they do best, without giving them room to stretch. Jason is pale enough, the hair would need changing. And I'm not sure how tall he is.


Dido to just about everything. And I believe he is pretty short - he looked short next to Alex O'Laughlin in Moonlight, who is medium-tall, and and he looked about average hight next to Kristen Bell on Veronica Mars, who is short. Not the most technical way to measure hight, I know, but whatever.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 17, 2010, 07:34:14 PM
So I looked up that episode of NCIS (I was only able to watch that scene but I will try and watch the whole episode later) and I must confess that Michael Weatherly isn't as far off for Harry as I thought. I still have a hard time separating him from his role as "Eyes Only" in Dark Angel and I always pictured Harry with darker hair but I am working on it. He whole demenor is rather Harry-esque. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: LordDresden on August 18, 2010, 03:27:33 AM
admit it...you just want to see her in lingerie toting a pistol lol

Seen the video for California Girls yet?  Lingerie is probably too strong a word for her outfit in that.  8) :P  There's no pistol involved, but otherwise...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 18, 2010, 04:18:58 AM
So I looked up that episode of NCIS (I was only able to watch that scene but I will try and watch the whole episode later) and I must confess that Michael Weatherly isn't as far off for Harry as I thought. I still have a hard time separating him from his role as "Eyes Only" in Dark Angel and I always pictured Harry with darker hair but I am working on it. He whole demenor is rather Harry-esque. ;)

Happy to convince. I hope the whole episode convinces you further. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on August 18, 2010, 05:41:33 AM
i am watching Kick ass and i know who should play the archive.
she is just the right age if they make it now
Chloë Moretz(http://ramascreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Chloe-Moretz.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 18, 2010, 10:48:13 AM
i am watching Kick ass and i know who should play the archive.
she is just the right age if they make it now
Chloë Moretz(http://ramascreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Chloe-Moretz.jpg)

yeo, she's actually on the list of can-be-Ivy candidates. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on August 18, 2010, 12:03:35 PM
ah
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 18, 2010, 01:03:43 PM
ah

love the input though. anyone else you have in mind? ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 18, 2010, 01:23:24 PM
On James Franco not being pale enough- You ever heard of make up????
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on August 18, 2010, 01:51:42 PM
I can see james franco as harry to be honest
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 18, 2010, 01:56:52 PM
(http://seat42f.com/images/stories/tvshows/Life/Season2/sarah-shahi-life.jpg)

Susan?

(Sarah Shahi from Life (tv show). :D)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 18, 2010, 02:10:25 PM
i am watching Kick ass and i know who should play the archive.
she is just the right age if they make it now
Chloë Moretz

Yeah, I had her on my original list here (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.msg824580.html#msg824580).

I have since made many changes to that original list though. Like ASkars for Kincaid, Bruce Willis for Mac, Famke as Lara, I can't remember all my changes, I would have to reread the whole thread.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 18, 2010, 03:34:18 PM
Willis would not work as mac. He talks to much. His whole screen presence is very verbal. I also dont think he would like a script wherein his character only said "hmm." the whole movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 18, 2010, 04:05:46 PM
Willis would not work as mac. He talks to much. His whole screen presence is very verbal. I also dont think he would like a script wherein his character only said "hmm." the whole movie.

True, but he is how imagine Mac would look sort of.

I guess Mac doesn't really need to be anyone famous since he doesn't really say much.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 18, 2010, 05:40:42 PM
(http://seat42f.com/images/stories/tvshows/Life/Season2/sarah-shahi-life.jpg)

Susan?

(Sarah Shahi from Life (tv show). :D)

Like.

Oh, wait, this isn't facebook.... well, it's the same gist. You get the idea :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 18, 2010, 06:43:25 PM
Susan?

(Sarah Shahi from Life (tv show). :D)

Could work, but I am on the fence because she is Iranian and Spanish which is a far cry from Central or South American.

IMO I think the actors should authentically fit the characters as much as possible, including ethnic background.

Not saying they have to because plenty of actors play other nationalities.
Hugh Jackman, Gerard Butler, Collin Ferrell, etc.
And you also have the americanized actors like Mila Kunis who is essentially Russian/Ukrainian but is considered an American Actress.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 18, 2010, 06:50:25 PM
Could work, but I am on the fence because she is Iranian and Spanish which is a far cry from Central or South American.

IMO I think the actors should authentically fit the characters as much as possible.

That runs the risk of stereotyping. Why not just have the general appearance match the description and leave it at that?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 18, 2010, 07:03:12 PM
That runs the risk of stereotyping. Why not just have the general appearance match the description and leave it at that?

Are we pretending stereotyping doesn't exist?

Like I said, there nothing wrong with an actress playing a different ethnic role, I just get tired of seeing them get it completely wrong.

some examples: Austrian playing a US Soldier, Arnold Schwarzenegger, he even had his accent, or more recently the Alice Braga (Brazilian) play an Israeli in Predators and she fit the part well. Jake Gyllenhal in Prince of Persia, etc. Literally tons of examples.

But I feel like there are enough genuine hispanic actresses that could fit that role so much better.

Here is an interesting little article about The Rules of Proper Racial/Ethnic Casting in Hollywood (http://shoryland.com/2010/05/rules-of-proper-racialethnic-casting-in.html).

That article is mostly about why "white" actors get etnic roles.
The one that urked me was the Dragon Ball movie.

What ever happened to actors like Dante Bosco (Rufio) or Ernie Reyes, Jr (surf ninjas), granted these are both Filipino examples, but at least that was closer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kennedy_c on August 18, 2010, 11:43:55 PM
Anyone seen the new Syfy (I hate that change!) series 'Haven'?  What about Lucas Bryant, the male lead in Haven as Harry? Relative unknown, no typecasting (yet), tall, lanky. . .thoughts?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 19, 2010, 12:07:23 AM

What ever happened to actors like Dante Bosco (Rufio) or Ernie Reyes, Jr (surf ninjas), granted these are both Filipino examples, but at least that was closer.

No idea who Ernie Reyes, Jr is, but Dante Basco made his opinion of it known when The Last Airbender came out.

Typecasting and stereotyping is, unfortunately, something that does happen in the United States. It's unfortunate, and it isn't fair to ethnic actors that are actually well versed in their jobs, and personify the roles that are written in these movies with all of the qualities the specific role calls for.

This is, personally, why I am anal-retentive about the actors who would take the roles in the Dresden movies. We obviously know now that Harry himself has a Scottish background; Murphy is Irish-Catholic, small, blonde, and exceptional in martial arts; The Gatekeeper is Arabic; The Merlin is almost the literal physical embodiment of what a traditional English wizard -- maybe even the real Merlin -- looks like; Susan is a Latina, Michael is fairly tall (but shorter than Harry), thickly, broadly built, and would have the fine, regal looks of the Franks combined with the Romans, given that he was descended from Charlemagne. (For those who don't know, this is one of the ideal portraits of the emperor in question:

(http://www.greenledgestudios.com/Family%20History/_Rowe/from%20Adam/__harald%20hildetand/___1st%20Edition/___illustrations/charlemagne.gif)

His looks actually very closely resemble how I see Michael in my head, without the beard, of course)

If a Dresden movie is ever made, I want it made as true to form as the books give us. None of this, "Let's make everybody white" malarkey. It's insulting to other actors who may be perfect for the role. (this is also why I really like the idea of Shaun Toub as the Gatekeeper, as he actually is Arabic.)

ETA: I realize that this makes me sound like I myself am typecasting. I don't like the thought of myself doing that. I would rather, at the very least, that the actors cast at least match how the books say they look. Harry is tall, gawky, not entirely bad looking, somewhat gaunt, dark haired and dark eyed; Murphy is small, blonde, blue eyes, and the picture of a kid's favorite aunt, or a cheerleader; Susan is dark eyed, dark haired, tanned skinned and lithe; Thomas is a walking Bod advertisement with pale skin and long, dark curling hair. As long as they make the effort to match the characters' looks, I'm good.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 19, 2010, 12:09:02 AM
Anyone seen the new Syfy (I hate that change!) series 'Haven'?  What about Lucas Bryant, the male lead in Haven as Harry? Relative unknown, no typecasting (yet), tall, lanky. . .thoughts?
(http://scifipulse.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Lucas_Bryant.jpg)

Oh my god.

Give him a perpetual five o'clock and several dozen bruises, and it would work. Holy crap, kennedy! Good call!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 19, 2010, 01:32:41 AM
(http://scifipulse.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Lucas_Bryant.jpg)

Oh my god.

Give him a perpetual five o'clock and several dozen bruises, and it would work. Holy crap, kennedy! Good call!

Nice, I must say.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on August 19, 2010, 01:46:45 AM
is he tall enough?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 19, 2010, 02:49:01 AM
Are we pretending stereotyping doesn't exist?

Like I said, there nothing wrong with an actress playing a different ethnic role, I just get tired of seeing them get it completely wrong.


"Completely wrong". Moses, at the risk of offending you although that is not my intent or desire in any way whatsoever, that's prejudiced. That's categorically judging one or more ethnic groups as being "wrong" for a role. "Reverse" discrimination does not exist; there is only discrimination against one more ethnic groups, saying they're not good enough or they're wrong for any one particular thing. What makes that any more acceptable than casting only ____ for a given role? And why would that be any better than only HIRING _____ for _____ job?

I tell you this: making those fill-in-the-blanks anything OTHER than completely open fill-in-the-blanks is discrimination.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 19, 2010, 02:51:59 AM
is he tall enough?

Lucas looks like he's anywhere from 6'4" to 6'8" which puts him well in the running for Harry.

On a side note, did anyone else squee when they saw Eric Balfour? First words out of my mouth were "OMG it's Jesse from Buffy season 1!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on August 19, 2010, 04:30:27 AM
Lucas looks like he's anywhere from 6'4" to 6'8" which puts him well in the running for Harry.

On a side note, did anyone else squee when they saw Eric Balfour? First words out of my mouth were "OMG it's Jesse from Buffy season 1!"

that's pretty tall. I think he'd be great for it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: LordDresden on August 19, 2010, 04:38:00 AM
(http://scifipulse.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Lucas_Bryant.jpg)

Oh my god.

Give him a perpetual five o'clock and several dozen bruises, and it would work. Holy crap, kennedy! Good call!

Yeah, no kidding!  He's not quite old enough, put just a few more years on him, 'roughen up' the look..and we've got Harry Dresden!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 19, 2010, 04:40:25 AM
his eyes are kinda too soft for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 19, 2010, 09:41:28 AM
his eyes are kinda too soft for me.

Really? They look kinda sad to me -- sort of like how I pictured Harry's eyes to always look. Like, he's got strength by the dozens, but when you look in his eyes, you can see that deep down, he's very sad because of all the things that weigh on his head. Plus, look how lanky he is (ignore the chick in the picture):

(http://seat42f.com/images/stories/tvshows/Haven/Emily-Rose-Lucas-Bryant-Haven.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on August 19, 2010, 01:08:53 PM
Really? They look kinda sad to me -- sort of like how I pictured Harry's eyes to always look. Like, he's got strength by the dozens, but when you look in his eyes, you can see that deep down, he's very sad because of all the things that weigh on his head. Plus, look how lanky he is (ignore the chick in the picture):

(http://seat42f.com/images/stories/tvshows/Haven/Emily-Rose-Lucas-Bryant-Haven.jpg)

Actually I think she makes him more convincing for me because it kinda looks like a Harry/Murph picture.  I am convinced he would definitely do for Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 19, 2010, 01:18:41 PM
yeah that does look like a harry and murp picture. neat.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 19, 2010, 01:20:12 PM
lol, still not convinced, sorry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 19, 2010, 01:21:09 PM
"Completely wrong". Moses, at the risk of offending you although that is not my intent or desire in any way whatsoever, that's prejudiced. That's categorically judging one or more ethnic groups as being "wrong" for a role. "Reverse" discrimination does not exist; there is only discrimination against one more ethnic groups, saying they're not good enough or they're wrong for any one particular thing. What makes that any more acceptable than casting only ____ for a given role? And why would that be any better than only HIRING _____ for _____ job?

I tell you this: making those fill-in-the-blanks anything OTHER than completely open fill-in-the-blanks is discrimination.

I'm not offended by your words, I am a little offended that you don't think a certain culture should be allowed to represent itself accurately.

I admit that I stereotype, but the difference with me is I am a firm believer in stereotyping.
Depending on what your idea of stereotyping is though.
i.e. "Mexican's are lazy" is bad stereotyping, but "Jews are good with money"....well what's wrong with that?

I myself am a mutt. I am Filipino, 4th gen Spaniard, German, Irish/Scottish, and 5th gen Cherokee.
Additionally, I have 3 half African American neices and nephews, one half Japanese nephew, and one half Puerto-Rican neice. The other half of all of them is same as me. BTW these are from my 3 different siblings.

I guess that's why I am ok with it.

I believe every culture should take pride in their heritage.

Moreover those cultures should be able to flourish in Hollywood and the Silver Screen as well.

I feel like casting the wrong ethnic background would be equal to casting a midget to play Harry Dresden.
Wouldn't not casting a midget be stereotyping in the other direction, sure, but that's because it would be terrible casting.

But that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 19, 2010, 01:39:49 PM
(http://scifipulse.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Lucas_Bryant.jpg)

Oh my god.

Give him a perpetual five o'clock and several dozen bruises, and it would work. Holy crap, kennedy! Good call!

He definitely has the look. I haven't seen this show so I don't know how he acts. Does he seem to do snarky well?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 19, 2010, 01:41:51 PM
If it helps I was pissed about the main casting choice of "the Last Airbender" as well. I wasn't going to see it anyway, because M. Night Shamalan directed it, and he's terrible, but I'm with you on that.

There's a good movie produced (and I think directed) by David Duchovny (spelling?) called "things we lost in the fire," and in it his character is maried to Halley Berry's character, and they have children. When they were in pre production, one of the producers voiced concern. He said something like, "How are we going to cast the children?"
and Duchovny said, "umm... you find lighter skinned mixed children????"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 19, 2010, 02:12:37 PM
and Duchovny said, "umm... you find lighter skinned mixed children????"

lol. that much would be obvious. Are people really this stupid that they really have to ask what kind of child they should find to cast for a ethnic marriage?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 19, 2010, 02:16:29 PM
If it helps I was pissed about the main casting choice of "the Last Airbender" as well. I wasn't going to see it anyway, because M. Night Shamalan directed it, and he's terrible, but I'm with you on that.

I been hearing and reading a lot about this.

I have never actually watched the show, nor did I see the movie.

I think it's safe to assume that the characters are from the region of Tibet judging by the clothing, which would mean that they could range from Indian to Chinese.

However at a quick glance of the kid's profile I can see why they chose him for the part.

"At age 12, he achieved a first-degree black belt rank with the American Taekwondo Association and is proficient with a variety of Eastern weapons"

Might not be too many kids out there that look the part and are black-belts in martial arts.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 19, 2010, 02:21:09 PM
Its not that hard to achieve a black belt in that system. From experience, I know this.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 19, 2010, 02:24:49 PM
Its not that hard to achieve a black belt in that system. From experience, I know this.

True enough, but how many are actors that look like this.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GsJ0PZjfZPw/TC93Jt8HiFI/AAAAAAAADqw/mtC84tRNuUk/s400/the_last_airbender.jpg)

I agree. You would think that if you put out an APB for a role that you would have 100's of auditions.

Like I said, I don't really have an opinion about the casting for that though since I haven't seen it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on August 19, 2010, 02:36:22 PM
Its not that hard to achieve a black belt in that system. From experience, I know this.

But at the same time, achieving a black belt means he won't need as much tuition to make the stances work. Ok, the art itself is different, but he will have some basics, and the right body shape. His audition tape was doing a kata (I think, and maybe even bunkai) in his gi. The reason he got the part was due to his skill, nothing to do with his ethnicity. Although, he has only been training for three years, which isn't really that much. I mean, in shotokan karate (WAYYYYY different I know), it takes at least five years of training to become a somewhat good black belt. With a good instructor. When you attend at least thrice a week. Without fail.

But to come back to topic:
I feel actors need not be the same ethnicity as the character. Yes, it is wrong to put a caucasian into the role just because of his skin tone in the same way as it would be for a job in marketing. But if the caucasian actor is better than the applicants of the actual race, then i don't find it an issue.

Who here has seen Die Hard? Can you think of any way IRL that Bruce Willis would have been able to take out Rickman and his crew? This is suspension of disbelief, and is why films and tv and theatre are awesome. Really, does it matter about the ethnicity of the actor if their acting is good enough to make you enjoy the film?

And to avoid trouble, none of this is to be taken personally, I am not trying to snipe at anyone, any race, any religion or anything. So if i offend, I apologise in advance. Race is a touchy subject
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 19, 2010, 02:50:29 PM
Maybe not Bruce Willis.
But Chuck Norris? Definately. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 19, 2010, 03:12:14 PM
if the caucasian actor is better than the applicants of the actual race, then i don't find it an issue.

I agree.

Who doesn't love Arnold Schwarzenegger?
Yet even when his accent was super thick, he still played American characters like in Commando or Predator.

Alan Cumming is really good at doing a German character even though he is Scottish.

Gerard Butler played a Spartan and he didn't even speak Spartan!?!

Viggo played a good Eastern European/Russian in Eastern Promises.

Mickey Rourke as the Russian guy in Iron Man 2

Djimon Hounsou might be playing Kratos in a God of War movie.

I could go on and on with examples of good casting that wasn't authentic, but my point is this though, why not try to get it close when and where it is applicable?

Basically I am saying I don't want see a white guy play Shiro, I don't want to see anything but a black guy play Sanya, and I want to see a real latina or at least half latina play Susan, and a Native American for Injun Joe, etc.

I don't see why not, I already picked out good actors that authentically fit the role, so I don't see why Hollywood couldn't oblige.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 19, 2010, 03:24:02 PM
Moreover I don't think you could really get it exact anyways.

For example I think Wes Studi would make a good Listens to Wind, but he is Cherokee and LTW might be Navajo (but I can't recall), I still think that would be better than casting Tom Cruise or something to play LTW.
However I can also see casting Danny Trejo as LTW too because he looks the part. But to be technical many Mexicans are Native American too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 19, 2010, 03:25:48 PM
lol. that much would be obvious. Are people really this stupid that they really have to ask what kind of child they should find to cast for a ethnic marriage?
Yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 19, 2010, 03:41:53 PM
I'm not offended by your words, I am a little offended that you don't think a certain culture should be allowed to represent itself accurately.

I admit that I stereotype, but the difference with me is I am a firm believer in stereotyping.
Depending on what your idea of stereotyping is though.
i.e. "Mexican's are lazy" is bad stereotyping, but "Jews are good with money"....well what's wrong with that?

I myself am a mutt. I am Filipino, 4th gen Spaniard, German, Irish/Scottish, and 5th gen Cherokee.
Additionally, I have 3 half African American neices and nephews, one half Japanese nephew, and one half Puerto-Rican neice. The other half of all of them is same as me. BTW these are from my 3 different siblings.

I guess that's why I am ok with it.

I believe every culture should take pride in their heritage.

Moreover those cultures should be able to flourish in Hollywood and the Silver Screen as well.

I feel like casting the wrong ethnic background would be equal to casting a midget to play Harry Dresden.
Wouldn't not casting a midget be stereotyping in the other direction, sure, but that's because it would be terrible casting.

But that's just my opinion.

The actor's ethnicity is practically a non-issue. Let's review the bidding:

Take, for example, the role of Susan in our hypothetical casting. She's described in a way that seems Latino, and her name is Hispanic (or Spanish). But what in that says she can only look one way? I personally know a lot of people who would qualify by both aspects, yet are in no way Latino by heritage. Should they be discriminated against because they aren't actually Latino?

From the other direction, heritage alone is utterly a non-qualifier in casting. My best bud's wife is Latina. But she has blonde hair and blue eyes. For any role requiring a generalized Latina look, she'd be a non-starter.

My point is simple: start casting people with their personal ethnic background as a requirement and you've moved into the realm of ethnic discrimination. Pure prejudice based on the past, not on ability to play the role. Now, I do believe that a scren adaptation of a book should at least try to capture the appearance of the character as described. Be that as it may, that's simply the ability to fit the role. Period.

Let's stop trying to separate actors (who are, last time I checked, still people) by their background and start trying to judge them solely on their ability to play the role as written.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 19, 2010, 03:48:10 PM
so anyway...

my list so far:

Harry Dresden: Alexis Denisof/Michael Weatherly
Susan Rodriguez: Sarah Shahi
Thomas Raith: Matt Bomer
Marcone: Mark Harmon

 :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 19, 2010, 04:29:48 PM
The actor's ethnicity is practically a non-issue. Let's review the bidding:

Take, for example, the role of Susan in our hypothetical casting. She's described in a way that seems Latino, and her name is Hispanic (or Spanish). But what in that says she can only look one way? I personally know a lot of people who would qualify by both aspects, yet are in no way Latino by heritage. Should they be discriminated against because they aren't actually Latino?

From the other direction, heritage alone is utterly a non-qualifier in casting. My best bud's wife is Latina. But she has blonde hair and blue eyes. For any role requiring a generalized Latina look, she'd be a non-starter.

My point is simple: start casting people with their personal ethnic background as a requirement and you've moved into the realm of ethnic discrimination. Pure prejudice based on the past, not on ability to play the role. Now, I do believe that a scren adaptation of a book should at least try to capture the appearance of the character as described. Be that as it may, that's simply the ability to fit the role. Period.

Let's stop trying to separate actors (who are, last time I checked, still people) by their background and start trying to judge them solely on their ability to play the role as written.

I think we are on the same page, but you are missing my point.

I am not saying that a non-latina should be barred from being Susan.
I just think that they are enough really talented latina actresses that can capture the character, that it wouldn't be a problem to cast it authentically.
Personally my original choice for Susan was Kate Beckinsale.
Besides that the Susan on the TV show was a blonde white woman.

And yeah I know what you mean about blonde hair blue eyed latinas, I know one too.

So I think we agree, but I still think authenticity of ethnicity should be at least a factor when deciding.

for example a checklist when auditioning for a role.

1) does she capture the characters personality and attitude: check
2) does she look the part: check
3) does the actor accurately capture the characters cultural background: check

Not necessarily a requirement but a nice 2 out of 3 guide or something.

Being familiar with the culture can be crucial in some roles, maybe not so much here, but imagine an actor with no personal knowledge of a particular culture trying to portray a character of said culture, it could be very unconvincing.

Like whoever plays Murphy should be familiar with Catholic-Irish attitudes and traditions.

With Susan I don't think it matters so much, but with Shiro, Rashid, and LTW i think it's going to be a dissapointment to most fans if Shiro isn't some kind of Asian, and Rashid isn't some kind of Middle Eastern, and LTW doesn't look some kind of Native American.

But it doesn't mean that a talented actor couldn't pull it off even if they don't look the part exactly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 19, 2010, 04:42:29 PM
Let's not talk about the TV show. I'm talking about ideal casting in our heads. :D

Anyway, "authentically" is still a discriminatory word in this context. When it comes right down to it, looking at the PERSON'S own ethnicity as a factor in ANY kind of hiring is discriminatory. Ability to do the job is all there is.

Let me give you an example from real life. My job, and that of my team, is translation. English to French and French to English. We recently went on a search to hire a replacement for one of the team, who happened to be French and was our go-to person to do or to check translations from English into French (although the entire team is competent in either direction, it's always a smart move to have the person whose competency in the target language is the highest in the group do that translation or second-check that translation). We interviewed and tested a number of candidates, several of whom were entirely bilingual in speech... but none of them had the required competency to do the job well. The person we eventually chose and hired, who is our new go-to person on English-to-French translations, is not French. The ethnic backgrounds of the other candidates were utterly irrelevant; the only thing that counted was competency, pure and simple. And now, not one person on our team even has partial French ancestry. But we're all doing the job better than all the candidates we've seen for years. I'm not saying this to brag; I'm saying this to point out that competency in professional linguistics does NOT derive from ethnicity.

BTW, the person we hired? From Montenegro. And he LOOKS stereotypically French... at least, ONE of the stereotypes. Because there are several, depending on where in France they're from, what their background is, etc. But he doesn't have one bit of French in his ancestry. Neither do the rest of us. Study and competency ALWAYS trump ethnicity.

If you can play the role as written, it doesn't matter one damn bit who your grandparents and great-grandcestors were. And to say otherwise is still discriminatory.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 19, 2010, 04:53:55 PM
Absolutely.
But it does happen.
Men's average salaries are still higher than women's for the same jobs.
And in Arizona you have to carry papers now to prove your a citizen.
Now they want to pass that law in FL.
And even though discrimination is wrong,
I still think it's offensive to certain cultures when they aren't properly represented in film,
Wheter the actor is authentically of the background isn't really important,
but I think it would help more than it would hurt.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 19, 2010, 04:58:21 PM
I fundamentally disagree. There is no such thing as "reverse" discrimination. Hiring someone because of their grandpappy's origins is not only illegal but also wrong. Discrimination is discrimination when it has nothing to do with how well a person will or will not do a job.

That's the last I'm going to say on this; the concept is starting to tick me off in how it's gotten people to think it's okay to favor one group over another.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 19, 2010, 05:33:14 PM
I'm of the opinion that if a character is of a certain ethnic background, perhaps the person portraying him/her should be as close as possible to that background. Its more true to the source material and the story.
But changing things up is fine by me. To use our own dresden related stuff, in the books, Morgan is a big scots-irish white guy. In the tv series, big black guy. A major diference like that, I don't really care about. Its an obvious change. Whitening out a character like Tien from Avatar is a bit strange to me. Thats all.
They got a chinese-american to play Bruce Lee in the biopic, didn't they? Hello?
Having said all that, one of my favorite movies is Tropic Thunder. Downy Jr.'s whole role is based on this nonsense.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 19, 2010, 06:18:39 PM
I fundamentally disagree. There is no such thing as "reverse" discrimination. Hiring someone because of their grandpappy's origins is not only illegal but also wrong. Discrimination is discrimination when it has nothing to do with how well a person will or will not do a job.

That's the last I'm going to say on this; the concept is starting to tick me off in how it's gotten people to think it's okay to favor one group over another.

I feel like your selective hearing me, I am essentially agreeing with you.

True, your ethnic background has no bearing on how well you do a job.

However when the police put out an APB for a 5 foot hispanic male who just abducted a small child, I pray to god they don't snag some 7 foot white woman while the perp gets away because they didn't want to discriminate.

Fitting a description isn't discriminating.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on August 19, 2010, 07:51:11 PM
I feel like your selective hearing me, I am essentially agreeing with you.

True, your ethnic background has no bearing on how well you do a job.

However when the police put out an APB for a 5 foot hispanic male who just abducted a small child, I pray to god they don't snag some 7 foot white woman while the perp gets away because they didn't want to discriminate.

Fitting a description isn't discriminating.
ROFL!!!!!11
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 19, 2010, 08:05:31 PM
Friendly reminder, guys - this thread is about casting suggestions for Dresden movies, not racial profiling.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on August 19, 2010, 08:13:55 PM
good point. as for harry, i had an idea, john cussack
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 19, 2010, 08:28:55 PM
Friendly reminder, guys - this thread is about casting suggestions for Dresden movies, not racial profiling.  :)

Well you know casting lead to stereotyping which lead to racial profiling which lead to the Arizona Immigration Law which lead back to casting.  :P

It's truely a vicious cycle.

Besides that let me remind you that I am the least racist here.  ;)

So after thinking I have come up with the perfect cast.

Harry - Will Smith (http://authorjuliejames.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/will1.jpg)
Thomas - Tyrese Gibson (http://rmusicb.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/tyrese-gibson-11.jpg)
Morgan - Taye Diggs (http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l458/glvalentine/questionabletaste/equilibrium/EquilibriumStill0044-BrandtTayeDigg.jpg)
Kincaid - Wesley Snipes  (http://planb.episerverhotell.net/PageFiles/8399/wesley_snipes_08.jpg)
Michael - Forest Whitaker (http://static.ulike.net/img/01_Ghost_Dog:_The_Way_of_the_Samurai.jpg)
Marcone - Denzel Washington (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/denzel_washington1_300_400.jpg)
Ebenezar - Morgan Freeman (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/244freemanmorgan092806.jpg)
Nicodemus - Samuel L Jackson (http://nycsveryown.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/samuel_l_jackson.jpg)
Carlos - Don Cheadle (http://www.etoday.ru/uploads/2008/02/10/don_cheadle.jpg)
The Merlin - Danny Glover (http://www.salsamania.it/news/farandula%20mia/dic07/danny%20glover.jpg)
Rashid - Laurence Fishburne (http://davidpelliott.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/matrix-morpheus_l1.jpg)
Injun Joe - Carl Weathers (http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/espy_awards_arrivals_5_120707/espy_awards_19_wenn1450311.jpg)
Waldo Butters - Chris Rock (http://data.yule.sohu.com/star/pic/star/3/3396/default.jpg)
Don Ortega - Jamie Foxx (http://hitmusicacademy.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/jamie-foxx.jpg)
Hendricks - Michael Clarke Duncan (http://www.thesharkbook.com/blog/uploaded_images/michael-clarke-duncan-729267.png)
Sanya - Topher Grace (http://www.bgawebsites.org/computerclass/2005-06/mollysaint/topher.jpg)

Susan - Sanaa Lathan (http://dafiffloor.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/sanaa-lathan-560.jpg)
Murphy - Halle Berry (http://www.twitterglitter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/1270975931.jpg)
Lea - Tyra Banks (http://traceyricksfoster.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/tyra-banks-gl10.jpg)
Mab - Angela Bassett (http://images.askmen.com/photos/angela-bassett/63837.jpg)
Charity - Vivica Fox (http://hiphopspy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/vivica-fox-4.jpg)
Luccio - Gabrielle Union (http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/05/04/2009-hot-100-100-91/71-Gabrielle_Union_Hot100_l.jpg)
Lara - Zoe Saldana (http://tbreak.com/rex/files/uploads/Zoe-Salda%C3%B1a41.jpg)
Molly - Alicia Keys (http://healmenow.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/alicia-keys.jpg)

Don't be racist, it's the perfect cast!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on August 19, 2010, 08:32:46 PM
hey hey hey, lets not discuss that. back to what i was saying, john cussack is like 6'4 abd he can do snark, isint overly pretty, and  would look good with a coat.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 19, 2010, 08:35:46 PM
hey hey hey, lets not discuss that. back to what i was saying, john cussack is like 6'4 abd he can do snark, isint overly pretty, and  would look good with a coat.

IMO John is too dry.

Plus he is a little pass the age Harry should be at the beginning.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 19, 2010, 11:40:44 PM
Well you know casting lead to stereotyping which lead to racial profiling which lead to the Arizona Immigration Law which lead back to casting.  :P

It's truely a vicious cycle.

Besides that let me remind you that I am the least racist here.  ;)

Not talking to anyone in particular.  ;) Or even saying I agree or disagree with anyone's perspective. Just trying to find casting for our much loved, much hounded, and possibly
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kennedy_c on August 19, 2010, 11:58:06 PM
Since a few liked my wife & my pick for Harry (Lucas Bryant)

A few more. . .

Morgan - Viggo Mortensen
Nicodemus - Alfred Molina
Marcone - Eric Bana
Michael - Adam Baldwin
Butters - David Krumholtz
Ebeneezer - Wilford Brimley
Bob's voice - I actually liked Terrence Mann from the TV episodes

still need a Murph, though
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 20, 2010, 12:07:12 AM
so anyway...

my list so far:

Harry Dresden: Alexis Denisof/Michael Weatherly
Susan Rodriguez: Sarah Shahi
Thomas Raith: Matt Bomer
Marcone: Mark Harmon

 :)

yeah, my recent list for my own perfect casting. I'm still looking for the rest for me, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kennedy_c on August 20, 2010, 12:14:07 AM
Okay -  Bomer as Thomas

But, Rosario Dawson or Michelle Rodriguez  as Susan

Much as I hate to admit it, Reese Witherspoon could be Murph - if she buffed a bit
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: snowbank on August 20, 2010, 01:13:46 AM
Adam Baldwin would ROCK as Michael. With the right script, of course.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 20, 2010, 02:05:33 AM
Since a few liked my wife & my pick for Harry (Lucas Bryant)
Morgan - Viggo Mortensen
Nicodemus - Alfred Molina
Marcone - Eric Bana
Michael - Adam Baldwin
Butters - David Krumholtz
Ebeneezer - Wilford Brimley
Bob's voice - I actually liked Terrence Mann from the TV episodes

Some of these I haven't seen but I like the idea of Viggo as Morgan. For some reason I have a hard time finding anyone who lives up to my expectations for him. (Its funny...I didn't consider myself a Morgan fan but given
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and how particular I am about his casting I think I must be.) Eric Bana would rock as Marcone...although I might worry he is a little too young. (Still, I think I could overlook that.) ;) I'm afraid I can't agree about Adam Baldwin...maybe I see him too much for his roles as Casey and Jayne but I just can't picture him wielding the sword whose name means love. Just a dumb fan's opinion.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on August 20, 2010, 02:25:17 AM
I'll throw out another possibility for susan if nobody has named her yet

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oh1QDk-i6oc/TBfiuSF71_I/AAAAAAAAAyw/U6A5J5pETwg/s1600/7000_sarah-shahi_.jpg)
Sarah Shahi (she played Dani Reese on Life)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 20, 2010, 02:31:38 AM
I'll throw out another possibility for susan if nobody has named her yet

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oh1QDk-i6oc/TBfiuSF71_I/AAAAAAAAAyw/U6A5J5pETwg/s1600/7000_sarah-shahi_.jpg)
Sarah Shahi (she played Dani Reese on Life)

I think she's been thrown around a little I hadn't seen a picture of her yet. Great casting! I hadn't yet found a Susan I could cheer for but she may just be the one. Very nice!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 20, 2010, 02:48:51 AM
IShe's on my list for Susan. I thought she'd be perfect, especially when I was watching her on Life. Both for pre-and post GP.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: LordDresden on August 20, 2010, 02:54:17 AM
Absolutely.
But it does happen.
Men's average salaries are still higher than women's for the same jobs.

Actually, that's mostly a myth these days.  Women earn less in the aggregate than men by some measures, but when you adjust for number of hours worked and compare the same job to the same job, the gap mostly vanishes.

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And in Arizona you have to carry papers now to prove your a citizen.

Again, not true, that law simply doesn't say that.  The law might be a good or a bad idea, but the popular idea of it produced by the news coverage and political spinning is totally fallacious.

Remember, just because you saw a news report about something doesn't mean it's always the truth. There's an old saw that when you read a story about a subject you're familiar with, you suddenly begin to lose trust on the other coverage because the coverage of what you know about is so full of mistakes and errors and omissions.

Enough about that, though.  I just think certain misconceptions should be pointed out whenever encountered precisely because they are so eagerly spread and believed.

Back on main topic:

IMO John is too dry.

Plus he is a little pass the age Harry should be at the beginning.



That's an unavoidable problem with casting a series as long the DF, which is spread out over a period of many books and many years.  He's too old to play Harry in SF or FM, but he's too young to play him in Changes. Same problem applies to any of the 'mortal' characters like Harry and Karrin (Harry's long lifespan hasn't kicked in enough yet to matter for our purposes).

The immortal characters are easier, there's no problem for the actor to look just the same in SF or Changes if s/he is playing Lara or Nicodemus.

(It crops up in movies, too.  For a famous example, Vivian Leigh played Scarlett O'Hara in the move Gone With The Wind, and looks too mature to be a sixteen year old at the start of the movie (Scarlett's age in 1860), but looks more believable for her supposed age at the end, which was 28.)



Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 20, 2010, 02:58:13 AM
IShe's on my list for Susan. I thought she'd be perfect, especially when I was watching her on Life. Both for pre-and post GP.

I knew I'd seen the name mentioned here! :) Great call. I haven't seen her act so I'll have to take your word for it in that department but she's got the look for sure. Sultry, looks generally like the right ethnic background (but I guess that is kind of controversial right now so I didn't say that ;)) and looks like she could
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I have to say she is probably the most solidly cast in my mind...I should have looked her up sooner. Post your full list of casting choices and I'll look them up when I have time. (I just started college so be warned, we're looking at a few days at least.)  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on August 20, 2010, 05:12:30 AM
I'll throw out another possibility for susan if nobody has named her yet

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oh1QDk-i6oc/TBfiuSF71_I/AAAAAAAAAyw/U6A5J5pETwg/s1600/7000_sarah-shahi_.jpg)
Sarah Shahi (she played Dani Reese on Life)

I could see it if she tanned and bronzed up for the part, right now she just doesn't quite fit my mental image of Susan.  Now my favorite for Susan would probably be everyone's favorite deputy, Erica Cerra, but I'm positive she's been brought up before.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 20, 2010, 06:17:13 AM
Since a few liked my wife & my pick for Harry (Lucas Bryant)

A few more. . .

Morgan - Viggo Mortensen
Nicodemus - Alfred Molina
Marcone - Eric Bana
Michael - Adam Baldwin
Butters - David Krumholtz
Ebeneezer - Wilford Brimley
Bob's voice - I actually liked Terrence Mann from the TV episodes

still need a Murph, though


I actually have my listing a little like this:

Michael - Viggo Mortenson
Marcone (still juggling with the possibility of Ray Wise for this. Maybe Bruce Campbell?)
Nicodemus - Mark Sheppard
Morgan - Clancy Brown
Butters - Justin Long (on _MoSeS's suggestion)
Ebenezer - Jim Beaver
Bob's voice is a toss up between what Shecky suggests (Jim Butcher' himself) and the voice of the audiobooks, James Marsters. Both of them do a superb job.


Still uncertain on my Murphy pick. I'm content with Sarah Michelle Gellar, but others like the idea of Kristen Bell.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 20, 2010, 01:07:59 PM
Harry's long lifespan hasn't kicked in enough yet to matter for our purposes

I never thought much about this, but Harry would have lived longer because he is a wizard, but would he age normally.

I think there was a discussion about this already where it was stated that one of the wizards that was 100 something years old looked like he was 100 something years old.

So I guess at 40 he would look 40, and so on.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 20, 2010, 01:41:28 PM
I never thought much about this, but Harry would have lived longer because he is a wizard, but would he age normally.

I think there was a discussion about this already where it was stated that one of the wizards that was 100 something years old looked like he was 100 something years old.

So I guess at 40 he would look 40, and so on.

That might not be entirely true. We know that Margaret LeFay, thanks to WOJ,
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when she had Harry. And thanks to Blood Rites, we know that she still appeared like a woman in her 40s or so when she left the soul gaze connection whatchathingy for Harry and Thomas. I imagine that Ebenezar, for instance, looks like he IS 100 years old, despite the fact that he's in his third or fourth century. He may even look younger than that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 20, 2010, 02:42:56 PM
from the way Ebenezer is described I think he appears to be a man in his mid sixties that has taken very, very good care of himself his whole life.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 20, 2010, 03:05:14 PM
That might not be entirely true. We know that Margaret LeFay, thanks to WOJ,
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when she had Harry. And thanks to Blood Rites, we know that she still appeared like a woman in her 40s or so when she left the soul gaze connection whatchathingy for Harry and Thomas. I imagine that Ebenezar, for instance, looks like he IS 100 years old, despite the fact that he's in his third or fourth century. He may even look younger than that.

So that basically reinforces for us fans of seeing a younger actor play Harry, than a lot of the old guys that are being suggested.  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 20, 2010, 03:55:11 PM
I could see it if she tanned and bronzed up for the part, right now she just doesn't quite fit my mental image of Susan.  Now my favorite for Susan would probably be everyone's favorite deputy, Erica Cerra, but I'm positive she's been brought up before.

...I brought her up. :p

I knew I'd seen the name mentioned here! :) Great call. I haven't seen her act so I'll have to take your word for it in that department but she's got the look for sure. Sultry, looks generally like the right ethnic background (but I guess that is kind of controversial right now so I didn't say that ;)) and looks like she could
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I have to say she is probably the most solidly cast in my mind...I should have looked her up sooner. Post your full list of casting choices and I'll look them up when I have time. (I just started college so be warned, we're looking at a few days at least.)  ;)

my current definite and solid cast in my head would be:

Harry - Michael Weatherly
(http://rdhogan7713.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/ncis01.jpg)
(http://www.kelliestes.com/blog/uploads/Cannon_Michael.jpg)
Susan - Sarah Shahi
(http://m.nbc.com/images/Life/bio/sarah_320x240.jpg)
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/G_L/Li_Lp/Life/season2/life72.jpg)
Thomas - Matt Bomer
(http://eyeonsoaps.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/matt-bomer.jpg)
(http://www.thundersquee.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/ts-matt-bomer.jpg)
(http://www.cmu.edu/homepage/images/2009/mattBomer_236x236.jpg)
(uh, yeah, I just like looking at him, lol. xD)
Marcone - Mark Harmon
(http://www.silverfeast.com/wp-content/uploads/mark_harmon.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Mark_Harmon_1_edit1.jpg/465px-Mark_Harmon_1_edit1.jpg)

...that's about it for now. haven't found my definite Murphy and Michael yet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 20, 2010, 04:34:51 PM
I am leaning more toward Movie Actors than TV Actors because my idea of a perfect cast would be geared toward a Silver Screen version and not another TV Show version.

I am no actor myself, but there are tons of debates especially from acting school attendees about the difference in Acting for Television, Film, and Theater.

Personally, I have always felt there is a difference between them.

However there are always exceptions,
though for me, most of those have been within the last 5 years.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 20, 2010, 04:50:41 PM
So that basically reinforces for us fans of seeing a younger actor play Harry, than a lot of the old guys that are being suggested.  :P

haha, yeah, more or less. Harry is going to appear to age normally until he MAYBE hits 40, by which point, his physiology is going to slow down. He might not even appear to actually look like he's in his 60s until he's well into his first century and a half.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 20, 2010, 11:30:33 PM
my current definite and solid cast in my head would be:

Harry - Michael Weatherly
Susan - Sarah Shahi
Thomas - Matt Bomer
(uh, yeah, I just like looking at him, lol. xD)
Marcone - Mark Harmon

...that's about it for now. haven't found my definite Murphy and Michael yet.

I have to say you have very good tastes. I'm still making up my mind about Michael Weatherly (basically clearing my head of preconcieved notions I got from Dark Angel) but I am kind of liking him for the role. Like I said, Sarah Shahi is spot on for Susan! Your casting for Thomas is...well, he's Matt Bomer - what else can I say? ;D And I must say Mark Harmon is excellent. I would not have thought of him (NCIS is not a regualr show I watch) but I think he's got the kind of presence that Marcone would have. Granted, he seems a little too old for me but even so I think he could do a very respectably job.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on August 20, 2010, 11:35:16 PM
i would be fine with a t.v show or doing something like they did with the stand. but damn it i want at least two books a season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kennedy_c on August 20, 2010, 11:41:21 PM
Okay - Like Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus (he even looks like a smarmy @sshole)

Was thinking that Hayden Panettiere could make a good Murph. . .if she was older (she has even studied martial arts)

A few more new ones:

Sean Blakemore as Sanya
Katee Sackhoff as Charity
Christina Hendricks as Lea

Lindsay Lohan as Maeve (she wouldn't really have to act much)


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 21, 2010, 12:39:32 AM
I am leaning more toward Movie Actors than TV Actors because my idea of a perfect cast would be geared toward a Silver Screen version and not another TV Show version.

I am no actor myself, but there are tons of debates especially from acting school attendees about the difference in Acting for Television, Film, and Theater.

Personally, I have always felt there is a difference between them.

However there are always exceptions,
though for me, most of those have been within the last 5 years.

well yeah, there's this, but I've always thought that most of movie actors are far too recognizable, and I don't want anyone recognizable for DF - but ones with acting experience. :)

and thanks, hatshep2! :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: snowbank on August 21, 2010, 01:05:35 AM
Actually, that's mostly a myth these days.  Women earn less in the aggregate than men by some measures, but when you adjust for number of hours worked and compare the same job to the same job, the gap mostly vanishes.

No. Women who take time off to raise kids (slackers!) often make less, but all things being equal, men still get paid more. And just look at the disparities in numbers. How many women run Fortune 500 companies or are on boards of directors at major financial institutions? Men prefer to hire men for business.

Again, not true, that law simply doesn't say that.  The law might be a good or a bad idea, but the popular idea of it produced by the news coverage and political spinning is totally fallacious.

Actually I think it's pretty close to the federal law, which wasn't enforced. It may be the more likely enforcement  possibilities are what drives the emotional response.

And Judy Garland didn't look like a 14 year old in the Wizard of Oz, either. (or was Dorothy 12 in the books?)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 21, 2010, 01:09:37 AM
Okay - Like Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus (he even looks like a smarmy @sshole)

Thank you! And thank Bluebeard, too, lol. It was Bluebeard's idea in the first place.

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Was thinking that Hayden Panettiere could make a good Murph. . .if she was older (she has even studied martial arts)

Which is why I originally wanted (and still do want, tbh) Sarah Michelle Gellar. She actually is the same age now as Murphy is at the beginning of the books, and she has also studied martial arts (she's a black belt in Taikwondo which, granted, is worlds away from her being a seasoned aikidōka, but she is a trained martial artist, and once you have the basic discipline down, she wouldn't have much trouble applying the disciplines, albeit in a different way, toward aikido)

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A few more new ones:

Sean Blakemore as Sanya
Katee Sackhoff as Charity
Christina Hendricks as Lea

Lindsay Lohan as Maeve (she wouldn't really have to act much)




Sean Blakemore -- Spot on. Wow. I was beginning to despair of ever finding Sanya :( This guy looks awesome. He's exactly how I pictured Sanya... But can he do a Russian accent?
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Tj3zuzFfOre3bM:http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTUwMjI3MDUyNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDc3MzczMQ@@._V1._SX283_SY400_.jpg&t=1)

Katee Sackhoff -- I've never seen her act. Sorry :-\ Does she look like a woman that builds her husband's weapons, sword fights with him, and used to rebuild motorcycles?
(http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Katee_Sackhoff/katee_sackhoff.jpg)

Christina Hendricks -- Holy crap! I can DEFINITELY see this woman as a psychopathic magic-wielding, violent Sidhe!
(http://www.sugarslam.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/christina-hendricks.jpg)

And Lohan as Maeve? Yeah, why not? She's got the cat-like eyes. Plus, Maeve is pretty much a bloodthirsty horndog. That's, like, Lohan's lifetime achievement.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: snowbank on August 21, 2010, 01:16:44 AM
Katee Sackoff was Starbuck in the new Battlestar Galactica. She can do physical strength in a very compelling way.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 21, 2010, 02:34:02 AM
Sean Blakemore -- Spot on. Wow. I was beginning to despair of ever finding Sanya :( This guy looks awesome. He's exactly how I pictured Sanya... But can he do a Russian accent?
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Tj3zuzFfOre3bM:http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTUwMjI3MDUyNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDc3MzczMQ@@._V1._SX283_SY400_.jpg&t=1)

Christina Hendricks -- Holy crap! I can DEFINITELY see this woman as a psychopathic magic-wielding, violent Sidhe!
(http://www.sugarslam.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/christina-hendricks.jpg)

And Lohan as Maeve? Yeah, why not? She's got the cat-like eyes. Plus, Maeve is pretty much a bloodthirsty horndog. That's, like, Lohan's lifetime achievement.

Sean Blakemore looks exactly how I picure Sanya! He has my vote for sure!!! Christina Hendricks, a perfect Sidhe. (She is being suggested for Leah, not Mab, right?) I'm afraid I can't agree if the Lohan you are talking about is Lindsay Lohan. She has no shred of dignity or professionalism left to her name, might wind up in jail for drug possession (or DUI, or whatever) while they're trying to film the movie, and has no sex appeal now that she's become a drugged up crackhead. Not saying I have someone in mind for her - she is a very hard character to cast - just that I really couldn't approve of Lohan in anything. But I would almost take her as Maeve if that would assure Sean Blackmore the role of Sanya. He is that awesome! ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 21, 2010, 03:52:12 AM
Sean Blakemore looks exactly how I picure Sanya! He has my vote for sure!!! Christina Hendricks, a perfect Sidhe. (She is being suggested for Leah, not Mab, right?)

LOL, yes, she is being suggested for Lea.

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I'm afraid I can't agree if the Lohan you are talking about is Lindsay Lohan.

It is, and it was incredibly dry sarcasm I used, lol. That fool would probably start a fight with a studio exec if she found out she had to wear her hair in glacier-colored dreads.

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He is that awesome! ;)

He is indeed!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 21, 2010, 04:00:03 AM
On a random note, what do you all think of Matt Lanter (below) as Will Borden? He's the voice of Anakin Skywalker on Star Wars: The Clone Wars animated series, and he's the lead actor in that Twilight mockery, Vampires Suck, as Edward Sullen (*snickers*). Plus, he plays Liam Court on 90210... which I'm not keen on, but hey, he voices Anakin, which is nifty, so I forgive him.

(just so y'all know, he has my vote, especially since he was born 30 minutes away from my hometown in Ohio. Same county, even :) )

(http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/matt-lanter-photo.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on August 21, 2010, 04:32:30 AM
I just watched my first episode of "the glades" and maybe it was the whole "moving from Chicago" bit that got me but the main guy played by Matt Passmore (he's Australian) made me think he could maybe pull off Harry. He's 6 ft and has some snark I think. I found him rather interesting. Almost tempted now to start recording the show cause it wasn't half bad. :D

But that's my two cents or something...

(http://www.hollywoodtoday.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/matt_passmore_photo_jeff_katz300.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 21, 2010, 03:15:52 PM
LOL, yes, she is being suggested for Lea.

It is, and it was incredibly dry sarcasm I used, lol. That fool would probably start a fight with a studio exec if she found out she had to wear her hair in glacier-colored dreads.

He is indeed!

Thank God!Lol! I really should have known you had to be joking, especially given your other awesome castings. (But, then again, there are some crazy ideas out there.) ;)
And as for Matt Lanter...cute! I'd never really seen or heard of him before (unless the "Vampires Suck" commercial playing on TV as I sort of watched counts) but I think he would be a great Will. (I always forget to mention him as one of the appealing guys in DF - in my list with Thomas, Michael, and Harry - but he is certainly one of my favorite characters.)
As for Matt Passmore as Harry, I'll have to look him up. Attitude is so important when casting someone with such a um...unique personality. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kennedy_c on August 21, 2010, 07:46:38 PM
My suggestion for Lohan was very much tongue-in-cheek also - but I do think she is frickin' crazy enough!

BTW-  the actress with Lucas Bryant from 'Haven' is Emily Rose (5' 4")

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNzYzMTEzMTU5MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzE1NDU2Mw@@._V1._SX640_SY962_.jpg)                  (http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTkxOTAxOTUxMl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDA0MTA2MQ@@._V1._SX400_SY600_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 22, 2010, 04:36:24 AM
My suggestion for Lohan was very much tongue-in-cheek also - but I do think she is frickin' crazy enough!

BTW-  the actress with Lucas Bryant from 'Haven' is Emily Rose (5' 4")


The pictures didn't come through to me for some reason so I looked her up. I've never seen her act but she looks cool for Maeve...some of the pics I saw even had a very Maeve-ish smile. She could totally work.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: LordDresden on August 22, 2010, 05:19:11 AM
I never thought much about this, but Harry would have lived longer because he is a wizard, but would he age normally.

I think there was a discussion about this already where it was stated that one of the wizards that was 100 something years old looked like he was 100 something years old.

So I guess at 40 he would look 40, and so on.

No, it's not quite that way.  We know that they age fairly normally at first, Harry and Elaine grew to adulthood at the same pace as normal kids, for ex, and now Harry has commented that he needs more sleep than he once did, for ex, and has to work harder to stay fit, he's approaching middle age and beginning to feel it.  We've also see that Morgan was still in excellent fighting shape at 100+, and
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So my take on is that what Wizards get is a lllloooooonnnnnnngggggggggg period of late youth/early middle age, aging very gradually after the first relatively normal period of childhood and early adulthood.  (It probably also helps if you start with the magic at an early age, like Harry/Elaine.)

I wouldn't be surprised if 'old age' is also brief (i.e. no longer than for us) for Wizards, when it finally sets it in earnest.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: LordDresden on August 22, 2010, 05:26:19 AM
So that basically reinforces for us fans of seeing a younger actor play Harry, than a lot of the old guys that are being suggested.  :P

To fit the role in Storm Front time, the actor needs to be a 20-something in OK shape, to look right for Changes, he needs to be a late 30/early 40 ish actor in excellent shape, but kind of battered looking.

(Harry was not in the best of physical condition in the early days, at one point he is embarrassed that Michael, 20 or more years older than he is, is barely breathing hard after exertions that leave Harry gasping.  That was when he started running a lot.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on August 22, 2010, 01:46:34 PM
This was probably already brought up but as Ebenezer Mccoy
I was thinking about this guy (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Kris_Kristofferson_SXSW_2006_crop.jpg/220px-Kris_Kristofferson_SXSW_2006_crop.jpg) Kris Kristofferson he seems the right age for Ebenezer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 22, 2010, 01:48:01 PM
This was probably already brought up but as Ebenezer Mccoy
I was thinking about this guy (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Kris_Kristofferson_SXSW_2006_crop.jpg/220px-Kris_Kristofferson_SXSW_2006_crop.jpg) Kris Kristofferson he seems the right age for Ebenezer.

he looks good for Eb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on August 22, 2010, 03:30:29 PM
Eb should be played by the dude. the black staff is Jeff bridges
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 22, 2010, 03:46:03 PM
Nah. Robert Duvall.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on August 22, 2010, 03:47:35 PM
*puts on chris voice* ROBERT DUVALL!
ya but seriously he is awesome
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on August 23, 2010, 12:48:50 AM
Eb should be played by the dude. the black staff is Jeff bridges
Maybe the Dude could play Morgan? He can play 'bad *ss' if you watch Iron Man.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on August 23, 2010, 12:49:55 AM
dude, he doesnt have to play Bad a** he just is.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 23, 2010, 02:04:40 AM
doesn't have to look bad*ss for Eb. he just has to act like it, lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on August 23, 2010, 02:10:22 AM
He is the dude, he doesnt have to act bad azz, he just is
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: LordDresden on August 23, 2010, 03:32:22 AM
He doesn't look anything like the textual description, but due to imprinting in my childhood, and the fact that we're talking about the rural South (albeit not the same part of it), I can't help put associate Ebenezar in my mind with Uncle Jesse, from the old Dukes of Hazzard TV show.

A few things make the association in my mind.  In the voiceover to the very first episode, Waylon Jennings (the narrator) says of Uncle Jesse that as head of the Duke family, 'he's always obeyed, usually out of love.  But always obeyed."  He's cantankerous, stubborn, and loving, he took in Bo and Luke as children when their relatives died, and his CB handle is 'shepherd' and the boys are 'lost sheep'.  He wasn't always law-abiding, but he had a strong moral sense, and knew how things worked.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4e/Denver_Pyle.JPG)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 23, 2010, 04:02:14 AM
He doesn't look anything like the textual description, but due to imprinting in my childhood, and the fact that we're talking about the rural South (albeit not the same part of it), I can't help put associate Ebenezar in my mind with Uncle Jesse, from the old Dukes of Hazzard TV show.

A few things make the association in my mind.  In the voiceover to the very first episode, Waylon Jennings (the narrator) says of Uncle Jesse that as head of the Duke family, 'he's always obeyed, usually out of love.  But always obeyed."  He's cantankerous, stubborn, and loving, he took in Bo and Luke as children when their relatives died, and his CB handle is 'shepherd' and the boys are 'lost sheep'.  He wasn't always law-abiding, but he had a strong moral sense, and knew how things worked.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4e/Denver_Pyle.JPG)




Awwww! I grew up with that show, too! It was literally a family affair -- my great uncle actually lived in the real Hazzard County for the longest time, and my dad and my brother started watching the show out of reverence to that fact. When I was old enough, I watched it with them, too :) Uncle Jesse was my favorite character. Such a shame that Denver Pyle is gone now :(

And as much as I like Willie Nelson, I wouldn't recommend him as the Jesse/Ebenezar hybrid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 23, 2010, 12:39:10 PM
You found me out - I've ALWAYS visualized Eb as Uncle Jesse with a staff and robe. Seriously. Drop the cap and that's the spittin' image.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on August 23, 2010, 01:18:14 PM
Yep, me too. :D  Ah Uncle Jesse... I always wanted an uncle like you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 23, 2010, 01:18:52 PM
Kris Kristofferson for Eb is a decent choice, I like this actor, but I picture Eb shorter and stalkier than Kristofferson, I only remember him in Blade as Whistler.
(http://www.countryhound.com/sites/countryhound.com/files/u6/Kris-Kristofferson.jpg)

In my mind Eb looks like this.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kseh6msFQDs/SwpC0F67lDI/AAAAAAAAAD0/VXn-PuD1maA/s320/62-colonel-sanders-mustache.jpg)
Yes, Colonel Sanders. Though I realize Missourian is a bit different than Kentuckian.

Or he looks like Wilford Brimley,
(http://www.novenafilms.com/uploaded_images/wilford-brimley-748760.jpg)
Who is too old now.

My personal choice is Rip Torn.
(http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2008_August/2008_august_008.jpg)
*I have to right-click > show picture on this for some reason (Internet explorer)

Another suggestion awhile back was Tommy Lee Jones, at first I was no way, but then I saw this.
(http://www.agproxy.com/browse.php?u=Oi8vd3d3LnBob3Rvc2hvb3QuaW5mby9waG90b3MvdG9tbXktbGVlLWpvbmVzLmpwZw%3D%3D&b=5)

Robert Duvall is a good one too.
(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080815/300.duvall.robert.081508.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 23, 2010, 01:23:22 PM
Robert Duvall's definitely got the chops for the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 23, 2010, 02:05:15 PM
Robert Duvall's definitely got the chops for the role.

He is a great actor, which is why I was more dissappointed in The Road.

I didn't even know he was in it, I watched it because I like Viggo, but I also dislike C Theron.
Anyway Duvall was a suprise to me when I saw him in the movie, but by the end of the movie I was like really?!? that's it?

The whole movie was super slow and boring to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 23, 2010, 02:14:45 PM
Actually, you know what? Uncle Jesse is the reason that I'm so set on having Jim Beaver for the role. They look a bit alike, don't they?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4e/Denver_Pyle.JPG) (http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:KhElGqH6lNU7JM:http://www.shallowgraves.org/Jim-Beaver.jpg&t=1)

Only difference is, Jim wears more plaid when he plays Bobby Singer than overalls, and his hair's still got color in it ;D LOL. I love my rednecks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on August 23, 2010, 03:59:50 PM
Actually, you know what? Uncle Jesse is the reason that I'm so set on having Jim Beaver for the role. They look a bit alike, don't they?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4e/Denver_Pyle.JPG) (http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:KhElGqH6lNU7JM:http://www.shallowgraves.org/Jim-Beaver.jpg&t=1)

Only difference is, Jim wears more plaid when he plays Bobby Singer than overalls, and his hair's still got color in it ;D LOL. I love my rednecks.

Jim is very cool :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 23, 2010, 04:52:12 PM
Jim is very cool :)

No kidding! I love Jensen, Jared, Misha and everyone from Supernatural, but I think if I ever met them, I'd make a beeline for Jim and just give him a big hug, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: LordDresden on August 23, 2010, 05:03:42 PM

Awwww! I grew up with that show, too! It was literally a family affair -- my great uncle actually lived in the real Hazzard County for the longest time, and my dad and my brother started watching the show out of reverence to that fact. When I was old enough, I watched it with them, too :) Uncle Jesse was my favorite character. Such a shame that Denver Pyle is gone now :(

And as much as I like Willie Nelson, I wouldn't recommend him as the Jesse/Ebenezar hybrid.

No kidding!  Nothing against Willie Nelson, I like his music, but him as Uncle Jesse?  That's Just Wrong.  Harry, Molly, and Charity in a threesome behind Michael's back Wrong.  The kind of Wrong that can have cosmic repercussions. :P

But the whole movie was like that.  To be fair, the characters are so tightly linked to the original actors that nobody else could ever really be accepted in them for the old fan base.  Nobody can ever be Boss Hogg but Sorell Booke.  But Jessica Simpson as Daisy Duke?!!  A blonde Daisy Duke?!!!  And the people who made the movie didn't really respect or really 'get' the source material, either, IMHO.  (The Charlie's Angels movies had the exact same problem.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 23, 2010, 05:17:16 PM
What about Jeff Daniels for McCoy? top knotch actor, looks old but solid and energetic (when he's not the Dude), can definately pull off the dark taint thing, and the bald head.
Although if Jeff Daniels did star as McCoy, the person playing Harry would have to be a top tier tallent- there's no good to come from supporting actors outshining the star.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: snowbank on August 23, 2010, 05:49:17 PM
What about Jeff Daniels for McCoy? top knotch actor, looks old but solid and energetic (when he's not the Dude), can definately pull off the dark taint thing, and the bald head.
Although if Jeff Daniels did star as McCoy, the person playing Harry would have to be a top tier tallent- there's no good to come from supporting actors outshining the star.
Thoughts?

jeff BRIDGES was the Dude in the Big Lebowski, jeff DANIELS was either Dumb or Dumber with Jim Carrey. Who do you mean?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jbigelow22 on August 25, 2010, 01:20:19 AM
Bridges - had a duh moment....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on August 26, 2010, 01:40:07 PM
I would agree with Bobby from Supernatural for Eb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 26, 2010, 03:29:24 PM
Harry, Molly, and Charity in a threesome behind Michael's back Wrong.

yikes! there's an image I didn't want! lmao

Quote
But the whole movie was like that.  To be fair, the characters are so tightly linked to the original actors that nobody else could ever really be accepted in them for the old fan base.  Nobody can ever be Boss Hogg but Sorell Booke.  But Jessica Simpson as Daisy Duke?!!  A blonde Daisy Duke?!!!  And the people who made the movie didn't really respect or really 'get' the source material, either, IMHO.  (The Charlie's Angels movies had the exact same problem.)

The only good that came out of that movie was 1) the knowledge that Johnny Knox from Jackass can, in fact, do something other than stapling his butt cheeks together and in loose terms, it CAN be called acting and 2) the introduction of the amazing James Roday into my life. I have been hooked on Psych since the show first aired -- never even occurred to me that James was in that movie until I looked him up :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on August 26, 2010, 04:04:16 PM

In my mind Eb looks like this.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kseh6msFQDs/SwpC0F67lDI/AAAAAAAAAD0/VXn-PuD1maA/s320/62-colonel-sanders-mustache.jpg)
Yes, Colonel Sanders. Though I realize Missourian is a bit different than Kentuckian.

Alas, Col. Sanders is no more...
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/123/theprincessfriedpartdos.jpg) (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/theprincessfriedpartdos.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)


UPDATE: Had the surgery on Monday...can't go back to work for at LEAST 2 weeks
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 26, 2010, 08:30:02 PM
Bridges - had a duh moment....

Yes. Yes I did.
Getting old.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 26, 2010, 09:40:51 PM
Alas, Col. Sanders is no more...
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/123/theprincessfriedpartdos.jpg) (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/theprincessfriedpartdos.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)


UPDATE: Had the surgery on Monday...can't go back to work for at LEAST 2 weeks

Colonel Sanders?!? Lol! Hilarious, but not my image of Eb at all. In my mind, he has that leathery skin outdoorsy older men have, an awesome voice, and kind of ignored hair. But most importantly he's got a face that could stare down Sauron and make him blink.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 26, 2010, 11:49:43 PM
In my mind, he has that leathery skin outdoorsy older men have, an awesome voice, and kind of ignored hair. But most importantly he's got a face that could stare down Sauron and make him blink.

So this. This is exactly how I picture Eb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 27, 2010, 08:55:47 PM
Colonel Sanders?!? Lol! Hilarious, but not my image of Eb at all. In my mind, he has that leathery skin outdoorsy older men have, an awesome voice, and kind of ignored hair. But most importantly he's got a face that could stare down Sauron and make him blink.

I think you picture Eb as this guy then.  ;)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg293/maggot456_2008/leather-face.gif)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 28, 2010, 03:09:29 AM
I think you picture Eb as this guy then.  ;)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg293/maggot456_2008/leather-face.gif)

Okay, maybe not that much. I guess I never pictured Eb so slasher movie-esque.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on August 28, 2010, 03:12:05 AM
what about ted levine?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on August 28, 2010, 12:39:00 PM
...I brought her up. :p

Actually, Jim beat you to it. :D

Jim gave Ardian pictures of Erica Cerra (Eureka) as reference for the Dresden comic.

(http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2010/02/03/erica-cerra/erica-cerra_l3.jpg) (http://static.episode39.it/artist/288.jpg)


Sean Blakemore as Sanya
Katee Sackhoff as Charity
Christina Hendricks as Lea

Lindsay Lohan as Maeve (she wouldn't really have to act much)

Katee definitely has a place in my mental casting for the Dresden Files, but I see her as Murphy.  She's not old or tall enough to be Charity.

(http://theninemuses.net/junk/kateeMurphy.jpg) (http://www.ghostofaflea.com/archives/katee1.jpg)

And Christina Hendricks... GUH.  Lea just got about fifteen hundred quadrillion times more attractive in my head.  Thank you!


As for Lindsay Lohan, even thought it was meant in jest, I totally could've seen it during her Mean Girls days.  She certainly has proved herself capable of bringing the crazy lately, but now she looks stringy and skeletal and eugh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 28, 2010, 12:47:19 PM
Actually, Jim beat you to it. :D

Jim gave Ardian pictures of Erica Cerra (Eureka) as reference for the Dresden comic.


I looked back at the quote. i misread the original statement. xD I meant to say that I brought up Sarah Shahi, not Erica Cerra.

Oooh. those pics almost sold me for Erica Cerra. I still have my mental image of her from Eureka, and her char. in Eureka just doesn't scream Susan for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 28, 2010, 01:50:58 PM
Oooh. those pics almost sold me for Erica Cerra. I still have my mental image of her from Eureka, and her char. in Eureka just doesn't scream Susan for me.

I agree with you on both counts. I watched a few episodes of Eureka and, although I liked her character, she seemed a bit too tough-guy tomboy type for the feminine Susan. However, those pics do look rather like the Susan I always picture. (She kind of reminds me of Emmanuelle Vaugier in those pictures...what would you guys think of her as Susan?) I think I'm still a Sarah Shahi fan, though.

And as for Katee Sackhoff, I'm not sure. She looks too worn out in the Battlestar Galactica pictures and too glammy in alot of the other pictures. And in my image she has more rounded features (kind of like - but not - Julia Stiles.)  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 28, 2010, 08:23:30 PM
Huh. For some reason, 'Cellie, the first pic you posted of Katee came up with the red X for me. Let me try, because these people deserve to see Murphy:

(http://theninemuses.net/junk/kateeMurphy.jpg)

*edit* Weird. Now it's working in both posts. I don't care. I'm going to leave it, because that makes double the awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on August 28, 2010, 08:40:25 PM
Probably because I was being a bandwidth-stealing linkweasel.  Uploaded it to my own web space and swapped out the links.  They should work now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 28, 2010, 09:54:59 PM
Well, thank you for that. And I note that you did not suppress the second posting of the picture. :D Twice the awesome at the same price - FREE!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on August 28, 2010, 09:58:39 PM
Actually, Jim beat you to it. :D

Jim gave Ardian pictures of Erica Cerra (Eureka) as reference for the Dresden comic.

(http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2010/02/03/erica-cerra/erica-cerra_l3.jpg) (http://static.episode39.it/artist/288.jpg)

Erica Cerra is perfect for Susan.  8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 29, 2010, 01:33:06 PM
And as for Katee Sackhoff, I'm not sure. She looks too worn out in the Battlestar Galactica pictures and too glammy in alot of the other pictures. And in my image she has more rounded features (kind of like - but not - Julia Stiles.)  ;)

I say ditto. Even the picture above doesn't sell it for me. sorry. >.<

still have to find my Murphy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 29, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Actually, Jim beat you to it. :D

Jim gave Ardian pictures of Erica Cerra (Eureka) as reference for the Dresden comic.

(http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2010/02/03/erica-cerra/erica-cerra_l3.jpg) (http://static.episode39.it/artist/288.jpg)

Sarah Shahi (Life)

(http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/6/0/0/6/27436006-27436009-medium.jpg) (http://seat42f.com/images/stories/tvshows/Life/Season2/sarah-shahi-life.jpg)

it's not that far off, imho. for susan, I mean.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: WiccanEagle on August 29, 2010, 10:56:31 PM
I feel so freakin' OLD! I don't recognize most of the names referenced here!

HOWEVER, I started watching the new SYFY show "Haven" and it struck me. Does anybody else see a Harry-and-Murphy look-alike thing in Lucas Bryant and Emily Rose (the two leads). Not perfect, but very close....

Or is it just me......?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on August 30, 2010, 12:38:43 AM
*bounces and waves* I SAW IT!!! (I posted a picture a while back, even, lol)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quinn on August 30, 2010, 02:24:01 AM
So this. This is exactly how I picture Eb.

Sam Elliott
end of discussion on Eb :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 30, 2010, 02:43:37 AM
Sam Elliott
end of discussion on Eb :P

No, you missed the end of the discussion quite a while back: Robert Duvall. Much as I absolutely LOVE Elliott's typical characterization and voice, he ain't Eb anywhere nearly as much as Duvall is.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quinn on August 30, 2010, 03:44:07 AM
I so stand corrected. I saw that a few pages past where I was. Duvall is Eb. No question. Thanks Shecky
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quinn on August 30, 2010, 03:56:34 AM
It would be great if someone would post descriptions of all the characters in the books. My thoughts on the TV series is they didn't get actors that went with JB's descriptions which made watching it not as enjoyable. I like a lot of the choices so far, but many don't fit with JB's descriptions.. some of the Murphy and Luccio choices are tall, face and acting are good but the characters are... short.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on August 30, 2010, 08:01:54 AM
I love the way these things tend to change as time passes, and how some people refuse to believe their favorite actors have aged beyond eligibility for some roles. 
That said, I'm placing an advance vote for Zachery Levi to play Harry in about 5-10 years.   ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 30, 2010, 08:56:23 AM
That said, I'm placing an advance vote for Zachary Levi to play Harry in about 5-10 years.   ;D

THIS. xD

I'll vote Yvonne Strahovski for Murph, but she's too 'pretty', lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 30, 2010, 10:15:56 AM
I so stand corrected. I saw that a few pages past where I was. Duvall is Eb. No question. Thanks Shecky

Ayup. Wish we could find a role for Elliott, though. Dude's awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 30, 2010, 01:10:49 PM
Ayup. Wish we could find a role for Elliott, though. Dude's awesome.

ummm......I use to love Sam Elliot, but lately after his role in Golden Compass and Ghost Rider, well.....

I guess it wasn't really him, but the fact that those movies both dissappointed the heck out of me it kind of knocked Elliot down my list of favorites.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 30, 2010, 01:59:59 PM
I wasn't turned off by the movies; I enjoyed them both for what they were - weekend matinees that shouldn't be compared to the originals. And given what he had to work with, Elliott did a good job.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 30, 2010, 02:22:30 PM
Well to me Golden Compass was ok.

It was really Ghost Rider that utterly failed to me.
I use to be a fan of the comic books, and I actually thought Nic Cage was a good choice.

The reason I dislike it more is because of all the adaptations lately Ghost Rider should have been hardcore like the Punisher movies.

I understand that there is way more money in marketing to the PG (parental guidance) group than an R rated audience, but I feel like than ruined it for the real fan base.

And I didn't like Eva Mendes as the love interest.

And the last ride with Sam Elliot seemed really pointless, he claims to have been saving his energy for this one last ride, then he does nothing but ride with him. WTF, that's it, he saved energy to ride with him?

Anyhow, there are plenty of reviews on what made Ghost Rider a disappointing adaptation so I won't rant on about it.

I give it that it was probably a fun movie for those who weren't fans of the comic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 30, 2010, 02:32:28 PM
One thing to keep in mind is the source of the word "fan": fanatic. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: snowbank on August 30, 2010, 02:35:41 PM
Well, if we can talk about actors who may have matured beyond consideration, I want to bring up James Garner, imo the best of the best. He does funny, intelligent characters. I believe he's been on TV recently, but could he do Eb or one of the other older wizards??
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 30, 2010, 03:13:08 PM
Despite the fact that she is not at all hispanic or latino I still like Kate Beckinsale(37) as Susan.
(http://www.paulhobson.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/kate-beckinsale-20040421-557.jpg)

I also kind of like Roselyn Sánchez(37) as Susan but I feel like she isn't quite what I picture.
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8551/00000344602006102023570.jpg)(http://www.beyondhollywood.com/gallery/stills3/roselyn-sanchez-070816/roselyn-sanchez-0.jpg)

But I think my vote so far would still go to Erica Cerra(30) choice as Susan
because I think she is more age appropriate, but I am still not 100% sold on her as Susan.
(http://i.newsarama.com/images/Erica-Cerra-1_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on August 30, 2010, 04:05:26 PM
Without looking back through 111 pages, I can't say for sure, but has anyone suggested Emily Rose for Murphy?  She's playing an FBI agent on the new SyFy series, Haven.  And?  She's 5'4" tall.  Not eensy-weensy, but short!

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/GimmeMocha/haven-season-1-promo-8.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 30, 2010, 04:17:28 PM
Yes, and you would only need to go back 1 page.  :P

14 replies back, or 17 hours ago.

and I think it may have been mentioned before that too, but only since Haven aired.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on August 30, 2010, 04:21:00 PM
One whole page?!  My god, I'm not superhuman! *runs away crying*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 30, 2010, 04:24:38 PM
But I think my vote so far would still go to Erica Cerra(30) choice as Susan
because I think she is more age appropriate, but I am still not 100% sold on her as Susan.

*eyebrow* Dude, you're not "sold" on the actress the author himself was visualizing?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 30, 2010, 04:32:30 PM
I am liking the suggestion though.

My choice is Kristen Bell.
(http://a.imageshack.us/img153/7372/kristenbell6.jpg)

The only thing about Emily Rose is she looks like Elisha Cuthbert, which makes me think why not just go with Cuthbert.

(http://seat42f.com/images/stories/tvshows/Haven/Emily-Rose-Haven.jpg)(http://a.imageshack.us/img294/3470/elishacuthbert12.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 30, 2010, 04:41:15 PM
*eyebrow* Dude, you're not "sold" on the actress the author himself was visualizing?

It may seem strange that I disagree with Jim's choices, but I think Alexis Denisof is too old now, though I would have agreed with him if he were at least 10 years younger. And I think Clancy Brown for Morgan is an ok choice, but I don't he is the best choice, and Clancy has really had much screen time in the last 10 years, he might be a bit rusty. And Erica Cerra isn't really a proven Silver Screen actress, and I haven't seen Percy Jackson yet, so i don't know how much screen time she even has in that.

He may have envisioned these actors, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are the best for the job.
The job should be given based off of performance and ability to do the job. In this case the job would be portraying the characters in a movie adaptation, and I don't think those choices are the best for the job, anymore.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on August 30, 2010, 04:58:30 PM
I will say that there's a difference between someone who *looks* the part and someone who can *act* the part.  My character, Rachel, is based (sorta) off Sandra Bullock's look in Practical Magic, but she could never act the part.  I can buy Alexis Denisoff as looking like Harry, but I admit, I can't see him playing the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 30, 2010, 05:03:15 PM
I can buy Alexis Denisoff as looking like Harry, but I admit, I can't see him playing the role.

Jim was asked about that, and skirting the issue of Denisof's age (after all, this IS "perfect" casting - in other words, take the perfect actor at the perfect age and give them all the acting lessons and/or plastic surgery they need to BE and LOOK the role completely :D ), he talked about the one bit that convinced him, where Denisof's character willingly killed the person he believed was his own father (in his FACE) because he truly believed it was the right thing to do. Jim said something very to the effect of "That was Harry. That was everything I had ever written about Harry."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 30, 2010, 05:14:08 PM
Jim was asked about that, and skirting the issue of Denisof's age (after all, this IS "perfect" casting - in other words, take the perfect actor at the perfect age and give them all the acting lessons and/or plastic surgery they need to BE and LOOK the role completely :D ), he talked about the one bit that convinced him, where Denisof's character willingly killed the person he believed was his own father (in his FACE) because he truly believed it was the right thing to do. Jim said something very to the effect of "That was Harry. That was everything I had ever written about Harry."

Now if we are suspending realistic possibilities and going with any age, any time, any place, then sure I agree with Denisof.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on August 30, 2010, 05:23:33 PM
Jim was asked about that, and skirting the issue of Denisof's age (after all, this IS "perfect" casting - in other words, take the perfect actor at the perfect age and give them all the acting lessons and/or plastic surgery they need to BE and LOOK the role completely :D ), he talked about the one bit that convinced him, where Denisof's character willingly killed the person he believed was his own father (in his FACE) because he truly believed it was the right thing to do. Jim said something very to the effect of "That was Harry. That was everything I had ever written about Harry."

Which was an AWESOME scene.  Wesley's character arc is, IMO, easily the best in the entire Buffy/Angel pantheon.  Where he starts to where he ends up... Just lovely.

But I've never really seen Denisoff do quippy, snarky, witty-in-the-face-of-death kind of acting.  Some of what I've seen him do leads me to believe he'd overact it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 30, 2010, 05:43:02 PM
When I think Susan, I think Monica Raymund

(http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/32/27/0000053227_20081110120007.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 30, 2010, 05:55:48 PM
who?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 30, 2010, 05:59:38 PM
Torres from Lie to Me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 30, 2010, 06:19:27 PM
What is Lie to Me?  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on August 30, 2010, 06:21:35 PM
A TV show that must be watched.  The first season is stronger than most shows' third season.  I'm not a big fan of Kelli Williams' character, but I do really like Torres.  But I don't see her as Susan, either.  Susan starts off as this energetic, fiery, funny, lively woman.  Torres is too somber and ... mean.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 30, 2010, 06:43:54 PM
Without looking back through 111 pages, I can't say for sure, but has anyone suggested Emily Rose for Murphy?  She's playing an FBI agent on the new SyFy series, Haven.  And?  She's 5'4" tall.  Not eensy-weensy, but short!

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/GimmeMocha/haven-season-1-promo-8.jpg)

Nice! I had heard her mentioned before but I have to say that picture really does the Murphy-look justice. How is her voice? Murphy's voice shouldn't be too high or too "cheerleader"...even if she is described as having a cheerleader look in the books.  ;) (Speaking of which, that is why Kristen Bell will never be Murph to me. Her look isn't really what I imagined or Murphy either but her voice is really the dealbreaker. Great actress...but so not Murphy to me.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 30, 2010, 06:46:28 PM
Now if we are suspending realistic possibilities and going with any age, any time, any place, then sure I agree with Denisof.

I guess someone should've informed the newbies of that; it's been understood as part of "perfect" since the origin of the thread.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on August 30, 2010, 06:56:56 PM
Nice! I had heard her mentioned before but I have to say that picture really does the Murphy-look justice. How is her voice? Murphy's voice shouldn't be too high or too "cheerleader"...even if she is described as having a cheerleader look in the books.  ;) (Speaking of which, that is why Kristen Bell will never be Murph to me. Her look isn't really what I imagined or Murphy either but her voice is really the dealbreaker. Great actress...but so not Murphy to me.)

I like her voice.  It's not squeaky or nasally, like Kristen Bell's can be.  Just starting to get a little bit of raspiness to it.  Plus, look how cute she is!  Lookit the big huge gun at her teeny-tiny hip!  Awww!

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/GimmeMocha/haven.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 30, 2010, 06:59:45 PM
I guess someone should've informed the newbies of that; it's been understood as part of "perfect" since the origin of the thread.

No, i get that, but as I told someone here before, the fact that it couldn't happen for real makes it a little imperfect.

 :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 30, 2010, 08:28:55 PM
I like her voice.  It's not squeaky or nasally, like Kristen Bell's can be.  Just starting to get a little bit of raspiness to it.  Plus, look how cute she is!  Lookit the big huge gun at her teeny-tiny hip!  Awww!

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/GimmeMocha/haven.jpg)

Great!!! Murph's voice should definately lean towards low instead of high. And she is indeed an adoreable Murphy!  ;)
What do you think, Jaeh? I forget if you had anyone in mind for Murphy but we do tend to picture the characters similarly. Does she do it for you?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 30, 2010, 09:26:55 PM
No, i get that, but as I told someone here before, the fact that it couldn't happen for real makes it a little imperfect.

 :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

Perfection ≠ reality, that's the bullet point I'm hoping we'll all bring home from this afternoon's seminar. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 30, 2010, 10:57:12 PM
Great!!! Murph's voice should definately lean towards low instead of high. And she is indeed an adoreable Murphy!  ;)
What do you think, Jaeh? I forget if you had anyone in mind for Murphy but we do tend to picture the characters similarly. Does she do it for you?

I watched some promos of Haven on youtube. She definitely looks the part, but I'm not sure if she sounds the part. The guy she's with, though, he kinda screams harry for me naw. O.O tall and lanky. bahahaha.

and thanks. :D I didn't have anyone in mind for murphy, though. I thought she was the hardest to cast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 30, 2010, 11:50:41 PM
I watched some promos of Haven on youtube. She definitely looks the part, but I'm not sure if she sounds the part. The guy she's with, though, he kinda screams harry for me naw. O.O tall and lanky. bahahaha.

and thanks. :D I didn't have anyone in mind for murphy, though. I thought she was the hardest to cast.

I should have thought to do that. I'll look her up soon and see what she's like in motion. And I've seen pictures of the guy and he really does look like JB's discription of Harry. I'll keep both of them in mind when I watch the clips. I agree she is the hardest to cast...the extremes and contradictions in her character, both personality- and appearance-wise, make it really difficult to find just the right combination of traits.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on August 31, 2010, 12:06:28 AM
The guy is definitely lanky, but he doesn't look that tall.  He doesn't tower over the girl, certainly.  And he kinda... fades into the woodwork.  I've only seen a couple of episodes on Hulu, but he's not buttering my biscuit, so to speak.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NewAltair on August 31, 2010, 08:35:06 AM
Saw a thread like this for CA but couldn't find one for DF so i'm starting one. :-)
So for that movie theatre that is your brain who do you envision playing which characters? And feel free to add characters i haven't mentioned yet. (there's so many to choose from in DF) Also no need to be bound by you know, reality. You can add the young version of someone who is now old and vice versa for example.

Harry Dresden- Adam Levine, from Maroon 5 > Same as the reason for Mab
Mab- Anne Vyalitsyna > Watch the official music vid for "Misery" by Maroon 5 and you'll know why ;-)
Murphy- Scarlet Johansen
Thomas- Chris Evans
Lord Raith- A younger Martin Sheen
Lara Raith- Sasha Grey (what?!? it fits perfectly)
Kincaid- Jason Statham
Lash- Leslie Bibb
Billy- Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Nicodemus- Michael C. Hall
Butters- Colin Hanks
Michael Carpenter- Maybe a slightly older Chris Egan ( i just loved him as David in "Kings")
Bob's voice- Robert Downey Jr :-D
Marcone- Joshua Jackson (Not the wimpy dawson's creek version the BA Fringe version, at least in terms of demeanor)
 Well that's all that comes to mind for now. Have fun with this, don't take it too seriously lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NewAltair on August 31, 2010, 08:42:50 AM
Harry Dresden- Adam Levine, from Maroon 5 > Same as the reason for Mab
Mab- Anne Vyalitsyna > Watch the official music vid for "Misery" by Maroon 5 and you'll know why ;-)
Murphy- Scarlet Johansen
Thomas- Chris Evans
Lord Raith- A younger Martin Sheen
Lara Raith- Sasha Grey (what?!? it fits perfectly)
Kincaid- Jason Statham
Lash- Leslie Bibb
Billy- Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Nicodemus- Michael C. Hall
Butters- Colin Hanks
Michael Carpenter- Maybe a slightly older Chris Egan ( i just loved him as David in "Kings")
Molly- Mary Elizabeth Winstead i.e. Ramona Flowers from Scott Pilgrim v World
Bob's voice- Robert Downey Jr :-D
Marcone- Joshua Jackson (Not the wimpy dawson's creek version the BA Fringe version, at least in terms of demeanor)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 31, 2010, 01:50:16 PM
Bob's voice- Robert Downey Jr :-D

YES! xD

Young Luke Perry when he was younger?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 31, 2010, 02:05:37 PM
Here's something new.

For Michael...






what about Meat Loaf?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 31, 2010, 02:23:12 PM
Yessss!!!!!!

And he could sing too!!!


"I would do anything for love...but I won't do that....no....noooo.....no I won't do that"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on August 31, 2010, 07:03:54 PM
I'm afraid I'm totally not seeing Scarlett Johanson as Murphy...she's way too glammy (and tall) and honestly I don't care much for her acting, either. She's pretty for sure and I thought she did a decent job in "The Prestige" with Hugh Jackman and Christian Bale but she just isn't Murphy to me.

I agree 100 percent with Robert Downey, Jr. as the voice of Bob!!! His delivery of comedic lines is spot on! Plus he's probably one of my favorite actors and Bob has to be one of the funniest characters ever written. A match made in heaven (or somewhere in the spirit world, anyway.) ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on August 31, 2010, 07:14:54 PM
Thomas- Chris Evans
Kincaid- Jason Statham
Lash- Leslie Bibb
Billy- Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Nicodemus- Michael C. Hall

I can see these choices.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on August 31, 2010, 07:53:21 PM
I like Stathom for Kincaid but he can't drop that accent for the life of him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NewAltair on August 31, 2010, 10:15:50 PM
I'm afraid I'm totally not seeing Scarlett Johanson as Murphy...she's way too glammy (and tall) and honestly I don't care much for her acting, either. She's pretty for sure and I thought she did a decent job in "The Prestige" with Hugh Jackman and Christian Bale but she just isn't Murphy to me.

You might have a point about the glam thing, but she is very short. 5'3 at most.
Also maybe throw some Eva Mendez in there for Susan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on August 31, 2010, 10:18:34 PM
Nicodemus- Michael C. Hall

Hmm, maybe... not sure. But, I'm currently re-reading Small Favor and the new season of Dexter starts soon, so I'll think about it while I have both on my mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 31, 2010, 10:25:33 PM
You might have a point about the glam thing, but she is very short. 5'3 at most.
Also maybe throw some Eva Mendez in there for Susan?

Guh, no. "Perfect casting" includes higher-end acting ability. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NewAltair on August 31, 2010, 10:27:34 PM
Are you referring to johanssen or mendez?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on August 31, 2010, 10:29:16 PM
Mendez. Johanssen hasn't shown me much, but Mendez comes across like she's imitating someone else. YMMV.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NewAltair on August 31, 2010, 10:32:41 PM
There goes the J-Lo option lol, who do you think would, make the best susan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 01, 2010, 12:05:10 AM
I think... I think I'm going to have to support the Ian Somerhalder crowd for Thomas.  I'm sorry, Matt Bomer's just too Pretty Boy.  He's not predatory enough to pull off a vampire.  Charming, yes.  Swashbuckling, yes.  Predatory, no.

Now, I know Ian Somerhalder is already playing a vampire but we can pretend that didn't happen, can't we? He'd need to put in some serious gym time, maybe get with Ryan Reynolds' coach, if he wants to play the guy described as the god of Bowflex, but he's got the rest of the look down pat.

And yes, I know I liked wrestler boy, too, but I know Ian Somerhalder can act the part.  So ... He's my #1 pick, for now.  Wrestler boy gets bumped to #2.

(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9400000/Ian-sommerhalder-hottest-actors-9465783-352-281.jpg) (http://www.spoilersguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/ian-somerhalder.jpg) (http://suckerforvampires.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/ian-somerhalder-como-damon.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 01, 2010, 01:14:55 AM
That is one hot chick.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 01, 2010, 02:52:11 AM
That is one hot chick.

*looks at the scruff on Ian Somerholder*
*looks at Shecky*
*looks at the scruff again*
*looks back to Shecky*
*snort of disgust*

Dwarfs.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 01, 2010, 03:07:37 AM
*looks at the scruff on Ian Somerholder*
*looks at Shecky*
*looks at the scruff again*
*looks back to Shecky*
*snort of disgust*

Dwarfs.

bahaha
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 01, 2010, 06:33:14 AM
I know this thread was done in some form before so if the moderators think it should be shut down - I understand.
I just had a weird thought and wanted to share.  (One of many I have from time to time.  It's an odd and scary place in my head.) ;D

Was thinking that, I know I'm gonna spell it wrong, that Sharlto Copley(District 9) would make a great Butters.
Gel up his hair, put on geekoid glasses and make his clothing slightly too large and rumpled and he'd be great.
And the man can act.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: LizW65 on September 01, 2010, 11:49:36 AM
Anna Torv as Ms. Gard.
Jason Statham as Mac.
Morena Baccarin as Lara Raith (okay, okay, she isn't exactly lesser, but still...)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jtaylor on September 01, 2010, 12:51:59 PM
I'm still torn between three great choices for Binder: Mark Sheppard, Tim Roth, and Eddie Izzard would all be excellent in the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 01, 2010, 12:54:08 PM
*looks at the scruff on Ian Somerholder*
*looks at Shecky*
*looks at the scruff again*
*looks back to Shecky*
*snort of disgust*

Dwarfs.

SOMEBODY GOT IT!

... seriously, though, that chick should wax.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 01, 2010, 01:36:22 PM
Guh, no. "Perfect casting" includes higher-end acting ability. :D

Mendez. Johanssen hasn't shown me much, but Mendez comes across like she's imitating someone else. YMMV.

For once I completely agree with Shecky.

I believe I may have expressed may distaste for Eva Mendez awhile back when the subject of Ghost Rider came up somewhere.


I think... I think I'm going to have to support the Ian Somerhalder crowd for Thomas.  I'm sorry, Matt Bomer's just too Pretty Boy.  He's not predatory enough to pull off a vampire.  Charming, yes.  Swashbuckling, yes.  Predatory, no.

Now, I know Ian Somerhalder is already playing a vampire but we can pretend that didn't happen, can't we? He'd need to put in some serious gym time, maybe get with Ryan Reynolds' coach, if he wants to play the guy described as the god of Bowflex, but he's got the rest of the look down pat.

And yes, I know I liked wrestler boy, too, but I know Ian Somerhalder can act the part.  So ... He's my #1 pick, for now.  Wrestler boy gets bumped to #2.

(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9400000/Ian-sommerhalder-hottest-actors-9465783-352-281.jpg) (http://www.spoilersguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/ian-somerhalder.jpg) (http://suckerforvampires.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/ian-somerhalder-como-damon.jpg)

FTW, I have been on the fence about Bomer, but this guy here definitely looks the part.

I haven't watched Vampire Diaries so I don't know if it's any good, I imagine it's something like Dawson's Creek w/ Vampires.

But I have been watching The Gates which probably isn't any better.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 01, 2010, 02:17:06 PM
Doesn't matter how small the roles are but you should post those ideas in the Perfect Casting (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,15623.0.html) thread.

Personally I thought Morena Baccarin would make a decent Susan.
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/9186/Morena%20Baccarin.jpg)

The Raiths do have dark hair, but I don't think they look foreign, and Morena can pass for Hispanic even tho she is Brazilian.

For Lara I picture Famke Janssen.
(http://www.tsbmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/famke_janssen_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 01, 2010, 02:48:51 PM
Leave the manscara and lipstick off and tell him to quit pouting, and I'll accept it. Barely. Bomer is still hands-down my pick. He doesn't look as androgynous.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 01, 2010, 03:06:27 PM
Leave the manscara and lipstick off and tell him to quit pouting, and I'll accept it. Barely. Bomer is still hands-down my pick. He doesn't look as androgynous.

What if it's Texas Chainsaw Mascara?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 01, 2010, 03:29:20 PM
Leave the manscara and lipstick off and tell him to quit pouting, and I'll accept it. Barely. Bomer is still hands-down my pick. He doesn't look as androgynous.

The first pic is one of a younger Ian, and the only one that's emo-y.  I threw it in there to show how he looks with black hair.  I admit, I don't see androgyny when I look at Ian Somerholder, but I gather most people don't look at Bomer and see wholesome whitebread like I do, either. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 01, 2010, 03:34:54 PM
To my eye, Bomer's over-the-top prettyboyishness is a result of costuming, hair and makeup artists' work. I think he could look predatorish with only minor effort... and he doesn't look feminine.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 01, 2010, 07:30:08 PM
To my eye, Bomer's over-the-top prettyboyishness is a result of costuming, hair and makeup artists' work. I think he could look predatorish with only minor effort... and he doesn't look feminine.

For what it's worth, as I am ridiculously gung-ho for PRO-BOMER-AS-THOMAS, Shecky is now my hero.

Shecky, if I recall correctly, isn't Bomer also Priscellie's pick for Thomas? I only ask because I follow the Dresden Cast RP twitter accounts, and I know that the picture for "Thomas's" account  (http://twitter.com/wedontsparkle)is Bomer. (I have no idea who actually "plays" Thomas. Whoever does, though = awesome.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 01, 2010, 07:31:12 PM
What if it's Texas Chainsaw Mascara?

*blinks*

Wow. That was awful, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 01, 2010, 07:43:55 PM
I'm still torn between three great choices for Binder: Mark Sheppard, Tim Roth, and Eddie Izzard would all be excellent in the role.

As Binder is a very small role -- he's only in one book (so far, anyway) -- I would hate for Mark Sheppard to be cast in that role. Because he's pretty much magic, on any screen he's been on, and to only have him once is just a waste of his wonderful talent. (also, he has a habit of stealing the show when he's on screen, so to cast him once as Binder might not be beneficial for the movie -- especially if Master Jim doesn't currently plan on bringing him back.) This is why Sheppard is my pick for Nicodemus. He does quietly scary, smarmy, evil very well.

As for Tim Roth, I've never seen any of his movies, and I've only seen one episode of Lie To Me, so I definitely haven't seen enough of his skills to make a judgment call on that.

AND I LOVE EDDIE IZZARD. I would be thrilled if he were cast in any way, shape, or form. And as Binder is a Cockney mercenary/thug/thief/etc., I think Izzard would pull it off fantastically. He was great in The Riches. And that was with an AMERICAN inflection.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 01, 2010, 07:49:15 PM
AND I LOVE EDDIE IZZARD. I would be thrilled if he were cast in any way, shape, or form. And as Binder is a Cockney mercenary/thug/thief/etc., I think Izzard would pull it off fantastically. He was great in The Riches. And that was with an AMERICAN inflection.

The fact that The Riches comes to mind when you think of Eddie Izzard tells me either you are young or you don't love him as much as you think.  ;)
He has been around a long time, and The Riches is one of his lesser accomplishments IMO. I know I am not that much older than you, but I remember watching his old stand up comedy.

He would make a good Binder, but I think he would also make a great Bob if the do a body form for him again.

I wouldn't mind Mark Sheppard as Binder. I only know Sheppard from Supernatural tho, which wasn't that much, like 3 or 4 eps I think.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 01, 2010, 07:54:57 PM
My personal vote for Nic's casting goes to Martin Cummins, hands down. He played the bad guy in season 2 of "Dark Angel" (incidentally the same show that Harry nominee Michael Weatherly, not to mention the amazing Jensen Ackles, got his start.) He plays evil to perfection.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 01, 2010, 09:03:26 PM
My vote for Nic remains Anthony Hopkins, thank you.  I'm a fan of the Hannibal Lechter on crack idea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 01, 2010, 09:30:58 PM
The fact that The Riches comes to mind when you think of Eddie Izzard tells me either you are young or you don't love him as much as you think.  ;)
He has been around a long time, and The Riches is one of his lesser accomplishments IMO. I know I am not that much older than you, but I remember watching his old stand up comedy.

He would make a good Binder, but I think he would also make a great Bob if the do a body form for him again.

I wouldn't mind Mark Sheppard as Binder. I only know Sheppard from Supernatural tho, which wasn't that much, like 3 or 4 eps I think.

I'm 25. I recall watching his stand up comedy as well, but I didn't think that the standup was quite the example of "morally corrupt degenerate" that I was quite going for (which is impressive, given that at the time, he was actively crossdressing). The Riches is fairly recent by standards, especially in Izzard's very long career, but it IS the most recent example that will resonate with younger people, as the show ran in 2008, and in that his character is the head of a family that stole another family's identity after inadvertently killing them in a car accident. And as long as he consults with Master Jim on Bob's voice, I'm all for it.

As for Mark Sheppard, he's had a fairly large career as well -- he usually only guest stars on shows, but his resume is ridiculously long. Watch some of his guest stints on Leverage -- he's originally an agent at an insurance company, portrayed as a foil to Tim Hutton's fantastic Nate Ford (the two are enemies in that his character, Jim Sterling, is originally Ford's rival at the insurance company they both worked at), and by the end of the second season, as an agent for Interpol, he's determined to bring Nate and his team to justice. He's delicious in the sense that you want to bludgeon him every time he pulls one over on another character, and yet you also want to fall on the floor laughing, because he's just so awesomely evil.

Mark Sheppard Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Sheppard)

I would also consider him for Marcone... if only he could rid himself of the accent  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 02, 2010, 12:39:49 AM
I think... I think I'm going to have to support the Ian Somerhalder crowd for Thomas. 
Now, I know Ian Somerhalder is already playing a vampire but we can pretend that didn't happen, can't we? He'd need to put in some serious gym time, maybe get with Ryan Reynolds' coach, if he wants to play the guy described as the god of Bowflex, but he's got the rest of the look down pat.

(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9400000/Ian-sommerhalder-hottest-actors-9465783-352-281.jpg) (http://www.spoilersguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/ian-somerhalder.jpg) (http://suckerforvampires.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/ian-somerhalder-como-damon.jpg)

It's just hilarious to me that he's being suggested as a vampire since my sister and I have been saying he should play a vampire for years. (And just for the record, we were talking about vampires well before Stephanie Meyer made them hip and turned the entire American teen-aged girl population - myself and my sister excluded - into Robert Pattinson groupies.) Then he finally got picked up as a vampire in Vampire Diaries but I'm still not happy happy about it. From what I've seen his talent is being wasted there. (Plus, I wanted to see him play a good vampire that we wanted our heroine to get with.)

Anyway, I strongly disagree with anyone who says he's not masculine enough. He's not buff, sure but he still comes across very strong. (I agree though that he'd need to hit the gym to play Thomas.) I have to admit, I'm not sure who I'd rather for Thomas, Ian Somerhalder or Matt Bomer.

And for those saying Bomer is too pretty-boy, you've only seen him in "Whitecollar," I'm guessing. Check him out in "Tru Calling," episodes of "Chuck," and "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" if you want to see a wider range of his acting. Remember, he is acting. He's just pulls off his pretty boy role so well that everybody assumes that's just him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 02, 2010, 01:01:36 AM
Oh, and he's another pic that shows a little bit more of that Thomas attitude.

http://www.tapeciarnia.pl/36044_filmy_lost_ian_somerhalder_kurtka_niebo.html
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 02, 2010, 01:10:32 AM
Actually, I've only seen a couple of episodes of White Collar.  Most of my exposure to him was in Chuck and Tru Calling.  ;)  I ... er... I think I'll give Texas Chainsaw Massacre a skip, though.  Eeeuugh..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 02, 2010, 01:22:48 AM
Actually, I've only seen a couple of episodes of White Collar.  Most of my exposure to him was in Chuck and Tru Calling.  ;)  I ... er... I think I'll give Texas Chainsaw Massacre a skip, though.  Eeeuugh..

Lol! I haven't actually seen that one, either...but I know the type of part he plays and I know its different from his other roles so I figured it might help convince people to stop type-casting him as the pretty-boy he plays in "Whitecollar." (I don't care much for gory-for-the-sake-of-gory movies either...I watched "30 Days Of Night" the other day and at the end I was like "now what was the point again?") What was your opinion of Bomer based on his "Tru Calling" and "Chuck" roles? (For my part, I first fell in love with him as Bryce in "Chuck" - a much cooler role, in my opinion, than his character in "Whitecollar.")  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on September 02, 2010, 08:24:46 AM
Based on Talent, Size, and general appearence, I have 2 nominees to back.
For Thomas - Matt Keeslar.  He's played the good-guy (Middleman!), and the evil bastard (Dollhouse) excellantly and looks about right to me.
For Murphy - Kristen Chenowyth.  About the right size coloring and shape, and unmistakable acting chops.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Starbeam on September 02, 2010, 12:58:35 PM
Based on Talent, Size, and general appearence, I have 2 nominees to back.
For Thomas - Matt Keeslar.  He's played the good-guy (Middleman!), and the evil bastard (Dollhouse) excellantly and looks about right to me.
For Murphy - Kristen Chenowyth.  About the right size coloring and shape, and unmistakable acting chops.
Kristen Chenowyth is awesome, and she looks the part, and could probably play it, but I think her voice would be too high, and she would come off as too happy/perky/bubbly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: snowbank on September 02, 2010, 01:04:15 PM

For Murphy - Kristen Chenowyth.  About the right size coloring and shape, and unmistakable acting chops.

I think she could do it. The real problem is our concept of her as not serious. She was serious on West Wing and for 3 minutes on Glee, it's just she is so good as the cheerleader type.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 02, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
It's the voice.  I can't stand her voice.  There's something... high-pitched, nasally, grating, *something* that is like fingernails on a chalkboard.  I can't watch anything with her in it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on September 02, 2010, 02:49:41 PM
True, and yet she did an amazing job on Broadway in Wicked, I think. The woman can SING!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 02, 2010, 02:52:43 PM
She can belt, that's for dang sure.  Teeny-weeny woman, huge voice.  It's like you want to check her over for loudspeakers ("Sorry, Ms. Chenoweth... here's your bra back.")  The first time she was on Glee, I had trouble making it through her numbers.  But when she was on the second time, her version of "One Less Bell to Answer" didn't grate for some reason.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 02, 2010, 06:05:58 PM
I like Kristen Chenowyth, but I don't think she could pull off "tough cop" very well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on September 02, 2010, 06:52:29 PM
All the more Murphy-ish, though. Don't forget, Murphy's "cute" and has had to work really hard to get guys to think of her as more than a muffin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on September 02, 2010, 11:48:09 PM
Lol! I haven't actually seen that one, either...but I know the type of part he plays and I know its different from his other roles so I figured it might help convince people to stop type-casting him as the pretty-boy he plays in "Whitecollar." (I don't care much for gory-for-the-sake-of-gory movies either...I watched "30 Days Of Night" the other day and at the end I was like "now what was the point again?") What was your opinion of Bomer based on his "Tru Calling" and "Chuck" roles? (For my part, I first fell in love with him as Bryce in "Chuck" - a much cooler role, in my opinion, than his character in "Whitecollar.")  ;)

I first saw Bomer as Bryce briefly and then got into WC. I think the Bryce part would help him play Thomas. He was a very Thomas-esque character I think. Very unpredictable, mysterious... kind of dangerous but still snarky. I think Matt can pull of Thomas. I see him as Thomas now. It's weird to read a book for the first time (Changes) and as soon as Thomas walks into the scene you see Matt Bomer automatically and I wasn't even thinking about it. It just happened and I started to smile so big I had to stop reading cause I was getting all excited about my subconscious casting him. It was just so vivid in my mind. He fits. He has the style. :D

I won't stop cheering for him to be Thomas.

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k192/elledeegee/temporary/wcmb/037.jpg)

Look at his beautiful handsome face and try to turn your eyes! TRY IT! ;) (honestly if that pic was my wallpaper on the PC, I wouldn't turn away. *giggles*)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 03, 2010, 05:51:54 AM
I first saw Bomer as Bryce briefly and then got into WC. I think the Bryce part would help him play Thomas. He was a very Thomas-esque character I think. Very unpredictable, mysterious... kind of dangerous but still snarky. I think Matt can pull of Thomas. I see him as Thomas now. It's weird to read a book for the first time (Changes) and as soon as Thomas walks into the scene you see Matt Bomer automatically and I wasn't even thinking about it. It just happened and I started to smile so big I had to stop reading cause I was getting all excited about my subconscious casting him. It was just so vivid in my mind. He fits. He has the style. :D

I won't stop cheering for him to be Thomas.

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k192/elledeegee/temporary/wcmb/037.jpg)

Look at his beautiful handsome face and try to turn your eyes! TRY IT! ;) (honestly if that pic was my wallpaper on the PC, I wouldn't turn away. *giggles*)

Seriously, I went brain dead just enough that I started looking for the "RETWEET" link on this before I snapped out of it and remembered that I wasn't on TweetDeck.

At the very least, even if Bomer doesn't get a unanimous AYE as Thomas, we can all agree that he's very pretty and very distracting :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on September 03, 2010, 02:03:13 PM
Based on Talent, Size, and general appearence, I have 2 nominees to back.
For Thomas - Matt Keeslar.  He's played the good-guy (Middleman!), and the evil bastard (Dollhouse) excellantly and looks about right to me.
For Murphy - Kristen Chenowyth.  About the right size coloring and shape, and unmistakable acting chops.
I would agree with you (MIDDLEMAN!!!!!!!!!) but Christen Chenowyth (awesome as hell though she may be) is far too old now. Can you believe she's still a virgin?????
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 03, 2010, 03:48:34 PM
That picture's eyes keep following me...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 03, 2010, 11:42:25 PM
That picture's eyes keep following me...

That's perfect, then. Thomas does quite a bit of stalking. He's preparing to attack you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: klipshot on September 04, 2010, 12:38:19 AM
i am new love the convo white collar def. a good thomas fillion def harry sacha is Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje from lost michael jon hamm from mad men bob ricky gervais just a few thoughts
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 05, 2010, 01:57:21 PM
Look at his beautiful handsome face and try to turn your eyes! TRY IT! ;) (honestly if that pic was my wallpaper on the PC, I wouldn't turn away. *giggles*)

He has this angle in the opening of white collar that just has me swooning. mmm... wind-swept hair, eyes... such eyes....

that's Thomas. seriously. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 05, 2010, 02:12:14 PM
He has this angle in the opening of white collar that just has me swooning. mmm... wind-swept hair, eyes... such eyes....

that's Thomas. seriously. xD

So just a quick tally from everyone reading the boards (at least until we can get an official poll going). Just say Aye if you agree on Matt Bomer as Thomas. Say Nay if you don't, and then list your vote.

I only actively list Matt Bomer because everyone on this board already knows that he's my pick for Thomas, lol. Not to mention, I think a good majority of you (of the females at least -- behold the power of a pretty man) would agree on him :)

Had to modify my post because my stupid self forgot to say AYE.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 05, 2010, 02:13:34 PM
well.. Aye! xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 05, 2010, 09:49:01 PM
Abstain.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on September 05, 2010, 09:50:39 PM
Either one could pull off Thomas looks wise to how I see Harry. They should have some basic similarities. Was it the chin and eye shape that Harry mentions in Blood Rites?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on September 06, 2010, 12:12:22 AM
Bruce Campbell circa "Brisco County Junior" as Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NewAltair on September 06, 2010, 05:22:24 AM
Aye!!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 06, 2010, 08:24:29 PM
Aye!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 06, 2010, 08:25:44 PM
Can you believe she's still a virgin?????

That's not bad, you know. Waiting and committment is not bad.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on September 06, 2010, 11:24:57 PM
NAY!!!!

Until I've seen one episode of White Collar.  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 07, 2010, 02:52:53 AM
NAY!!!!

Until I've seen one episode of White Collar.  :-\

Well, the show's about to go on hiatus (the summer finale is tomorrow night -- September 7th), but regular show time is 9/8C on USA. And they appear to be having a marathon tomorrow, going from 6AM to 1PM, lol. If you can catch an episode, I'd recommend it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 07, 2010, 03:00:46 AM
That's not bad, you know. Waiting and committment is not bad.

Agreed. Is there a problem with being a virgin? I certainly am. Not because I choose to be, mind you, but because I'm Orthodox Christian, and my particular branch of the faith is anal retentive about it, lol :-P

(Seriously, my now-21-year-old cousin lost her virginity and got pregnant in one fell swoop when she was 18, and the entire family couldn't shut up about it for months. It was a complete scandal, and her parents made her give the baby up for adoption. Obviously it wasn't a big deal to the younger kids, but to all the older people it was like she'd suddenly decided to become a bride of Satan or something.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 07, 2010, 03:03:16 AM
So far, I'm tallying 4 AYE votes (including my own) for Matt Bomer to play Thomas, one NAY-with-possibility-of-a-future-maybe-AYE from Bluebeard ( ;D), and one abstain b/c Marcone doesn't like Bomer :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 07, 2010, 01:14:05 PM
Nay!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 07, 2010, 01:48:13 PM
Nay!

Yeah, I called that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 07, 2010, 01:57:50 PM
So far, I'm tallying 4 AYE votes (including my own) for Matt Bomer to play Thomas, one NAY-with-possibility-of-a-future-maybe-AYE from Bluebeard ( ;D), and one abstain b/c Marcone doesn't like Bomer is a guy and straight and thus cannot accurately pass judgement. :)

Being a guy and straight, I'll pass on the girl vote because if he were to walk into the room I'd muss his face to keep from being threatened.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 07, 2010, 02:07:17 PM
BTW, I think you can catch episodes of White Collar at Hulu.  And you know I'm a nay. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 07, 2010, 03:43:21 PM
Being a guy and straight, I'll pass on the girl vote because if he were to walk into the room I'd muss his face to keep from being threatened.

lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 07, 2010, 03:48:30 PM
lol.

Glad to oblige.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 07, 2010, 03:52:03 PM
Okay, let me fix the polling then: 4 AYE votes, one NAY that's one the borderline of undecided, one NAY period and one abstain (because it's not fair to Marcone). Have I got it? LOL.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 07, 2010, 03:53:20 PM
BTW, I think you can catch episodes of White Collar at Hulu.  And you know I'm a nay. ;D

I gotcha :) And I think you're right, you can get it at Hulu, but everything I keep hearing about Hulu says that they give the viewers issues. Does anyone know about that?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 07, 2010, 03:54:41 PM
Okay, let me fix the polling then: 4 AYE votes, one NAY that's one the borderline of undecided, one NAY period and one abstain (because it's not fair to Marcone). Have I got it? LOL.

I just abstained.  That's all.

I gotcha :) And I think you're right, you can get it at Hulu, but everything I keep hearing about Hulu says that they give the viewers issues. Does anyone know about that?

I know Hulu's changing.  Used to be we had access to Seasons 1-3 of Buffy and All the Firefly episodes.  Now it's three Fireflies and one season of Buffy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 07, 2010, 03:58:11 PM
I just abstained.  That's all.

I know. The 'not fair to you' was just my specification of it. Because really, it's not fair to ask you if you think a man is pretty enough for a movie role. You said that you were a man, and straight, and given that my impromptu polling was more or less directed toward the female contingent of these boards, it ISN'T fair.

Quote
I know Hulu's changing.  Used to be we had access to Seasons 1-3 of Buffy and All the Firefly episodes.  Now it's three Fireflies and one season of Buffy.

Ew. This is why I have Netflix. I just bought and installed my PS3, so now I have web streaming from it directly to my TV. If I want to watch anything, I can just use the PS3's browser feature.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: synobal on September 08, 2010, 06:39:37 PM
Matt Bomer for Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 08, 2010, 11:04:07 PM
Matt Bomer for Thomas.

we've got another aye!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tbora on September 09, 2010, 02:16:07 AM
Who should play Nicodemus?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: synobal on September 09, 2010, 02:22:51 AM
For some reason I see Kevin Sorbo as Micheal Carpenter
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 09, 2010, 03:17:13 AM
My Nicodemus has long been Kevin Spacey.

As for Michael, I don't have one.  Sorbo's too... Not... He's too larger-than-life.  He can't help it, I don't think.  Even when he was playing a history professor at a community college on "Dharma & Greg" he took up all available space.  Michael should be a quietly competent man, with a rock-solid core of serenity and calm.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: synobal on September 09, 2010, 03:39:21 AM
after seeing this I want Christopher Ghoram as Waldo Butters.

(http://tv.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/christopher-gorham-ugly-betty.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on September 09, 2010, 06:44:58 AM
Michael needs to be someone big, hard, and who looks like a dad.  I think that last lets Sorbo out (not to mention age).  How about Colin Ferguson from Eureka?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on September 09, 2010, 01:47:42 PM
Michael needs to be someone big, hard, and who looks like a dad.  I think that last lets Sorbo out (not to mention age).  How about Colin Ferguson from Eureka?

I like that idea. He's a spot on actor too. He'd have to buff up for the role (unless the movie were post small favor), but I could definately see that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 09, 2010, 01:57:04 PM
Who should play Nicodemus?

Anthony Hopkins
Mark Sheppard
Vin Diesel

In that order.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: snowbank on September 09, 2010, 02:38:11 PM
I think Kevin Spacey is a fabulous actor. He'd steal the scene as Binder or any other minor character, but I'm not sure which major character he'd be best at, altho I'd lean toward The Merlin. KS can be smarmy and sneaky and sincere in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: synobal on September 09, 2010, 02:43:46 PM
ugg Vin diesel as Nicodemus? I could see him as slate maybe but not Nicodemus.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 09, 2010, 02:57:15 PM
I think Vin Diesel should play Mac, because then he wouldn't have to talk.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 09, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
Anthony Hopkins
Mark Sheppard
Vin Diesel

In that order.

How's that work, exactly?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on September 09, 2010, 03:03:38 PM
I think Vin Diesel should play Mac, because then he wouldn't have to talk.
Have you seen Find Me Guilty? Vin is actually a really good actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 09, 2010, 03:08:41 PM
Yeah, but he will have to make like 10 more good ones to balance it all out.

Just off the top of my head:

Fast and the Furious (and any incarnations)
The Pacifier
Chronicles of Riddick (had potential tho)
Tripl X, or XXX
Babylon A.D. (again, I liked the theme, the movie not so much)

Movies I liked him in:
Saving Private Ryan
Boiler Room
Pitch Black
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 09, 2010, 03:22:08 PM
A bit off topic, but I am disappointed that my pick for Ivy is going to be in the american remake of Let the Right One In.

The original Norwegian film was so raved about that I watched it soon after it's release about 2 years ago, and I don't get it, why the hell is this movie popular!?! It was about as slow and boring as watching paint dry.

Is it the premise?

I wish someone would explain why this movie is awesome??

Why is it getting an american adaptation?? it was obviously popular enough for that.

ARGH!!!!!!

Oh well, maybe this will show Chloe Moretz acting versatility.

I think this will show off a side of her that is more Ivy like.

Let Me In (http://www.imdb.com/rg/VIDEO_PLAY/LINK//video/imdb/vi1000278297/) trailer at IMDB
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 09, 2010, 03:26:56 PM
Michael needs to be someone you trust instantly.
Powerful but NOT a bodybuilder.
A good man.  A simple description but not always easy to find.
My Uncle was a good man, sadly we lost him this year.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on September 09, 2010, 03:39:01 PM
Yeah, but he will have to make like 10 more good ones to balance it all out.

Just off the top of my head:

Fast and the Furious (and any incarnations)
The Pacifier
Chronicles of Riddick (had potential tho)
Tripl X, or XXX
Babylon A.D. (again, I liked the theme, the movie not so much)

Movies I liked him in:
Saving Private Ryan
Boiler Room
Pitch Black

Agreed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 09, 2010, 04:07:31 PM
May I just point out that I liked Riddick (all of them) and The Pacifier.  But Vin as Nic was more of a joke than anything.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on September 09, 2010, 04:11:15 PM
after seeing this I want Christopher Ghoram as Waldo Butters.

(http://tv.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/christopher-gorham-ugly-betty.jpg)

I don't know...he seems to be gaining fans as blind techno-nerd Augie on USA Network's "Covert Affairs"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: synobal on September 09, 2010, 04:14:33 PM
ah I remember him from the short lived show Jake 2.0.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 09, 2010, 04:16:48 PM
...

HOLY CRAP!  I didn't recognize him.  I'm in, Chris Ghoram as Butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on September 09, 2010, 04:17:58 PM
I think Vin would work more as Michael than Nicodemus. He'd work very well as Kincade though- he will probably be tired of playing that kind of role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 09, 2010, 05:30:19 PM
I'm still sold on Zach Galifianakis as Butters.  It's the hair. ;D  Plus, I can just hear him wheezing out "Polka will never die!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: synobal on September 09, 2010, 05:34:28 PM
Willie Garson could be a good butters as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 09, 2010, 05:49:59 PM
Willie Garson could be a good butters as well.

No doubt!  He doesn't have the curly mop, but in all other ways...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on September 09, 2010, 06:31:13 PM
Who should play Nicodemus?
The problem with Nicodemus is that it has to be someone who can do creepy really well and, in my opinion no one can do creepy as well as Alan Rickman. But I read Nick's scenes with Alan's voice, and it just doesn't work. I just don't see Alan working for any of Nick except the creepiness.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 09, 2010, 06:35:12 PM
The problem with Nicodemus is that it has to be someone who can do creepy really well and, in my opinion no one can do creepy as well as Alan Rickman. But I read Nick's scenes with Alan's voice, and it just doesn't work. I just don't see Alan working for any of Nick except the creepiness.

Which is why Kevin Spacey would be ideal. He can get his creep on like nobody's business.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on September 09, 2010, 06:43:04 PM
Yeah. His role in Seven is still shiver worthy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 09, 2010, 06:44:49 PM
Kevin Spacey could work for Nic I think...he's got that sneaky quality and he is older but still has a powerful presence. Something about the shape of his mouth when he talks looks like my image of Nic also.

I like Vin Diesel (and for the record, I loved the "Fast and Furious" movies) but he would not work for any of the roles in Dresden. His flavor is a good flavor but it just doesn't match with that of the books. (I haven't seen him in all that much so I can't really grade his acting ability but I think he does well with what he's given most of the time.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 09, 2010, 06:51:47 PM
For those playing along at home, so far my cast list looks like this:

The Good:
Harry:  Paul Blackthorne or, if not, then Ryan Reynolds
Thomas:  Ian Somerhalder
Murphy:  Emily Rose
Susan:  Erica Cerra (I have no image strong enough to argue with Jim on this one)
Ramirez: Victor Webster
Ebenezer:  Robert Duvall (kudos, Shecky)
LTW - Russell Means, though he'd probably have a total meltdown at being nicknamed Injun Joe... so failing this, Wes Studi.
Martha Liberty - L. Scott Caldwell
Butters:  Zach Galifianakis.  Though sometimes my mental image reverts to Danny Strong.
Mac:  Adam Baldwin

The Bad:
Nicodemus:  Kevin Spacey
Lara:  Kate Beckinsale
Lea:  Marcia Cross (La!)
Marcone: Jeffrey Donovan

For the most part, I'm still open to casting for others or they just don't get a physical picture in my head when I'm reading about them.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on September 09, 2010, 06:52:53 PM
So just a quick tally from everyone reading the boards (at least until we can get an official poll going). Just say Aye if you agree on Matt Bomer as Thomas. Say Nay if you don't, and then list your vote.

I only actively list Matt Bomer because everyone on this board already knows that he's my pick for Thomas, lol. Not to mention, I think a good majority of you (of the females at least -- behold the power of a pretty man) would agree on him :)

Had to modify my post because my stupid self forgot to say AYE.

AYE since I haven't been around because I watch White collar religiously and have this thing for Mr Bomer *rrowwrr* ;)

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k192/elledeegee/temporary/wcmb/ncmad2.gif)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 09, 2010, 07:07:52 PM
AYE since I haven't been around because I watch White collar religiously and have this thing for Mr Bomer *rrowwrr* ;)

Well, you won't hear any judement from this corner.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 09, 2010, 07:28:48 PM

Ebenezer:  Robert Duvall (kudos, Shecky)

Mac:  Adam Baldwin

Oh, Duvall wasn't my idea; it belongs to Esperacchius or Uilos (I forget which, but I know it was one of them). I'm just on the HELLYEAH bandwagon.

... and Adam Baldwin as Mac? I see SOMEbody likes their taciturn Casey from "Chuck". :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 09, 2010, 07:34:32 PM
Oh, Duvall wasn't my idea; it belongs to Esperacchius or Uilos (I forget which, but I know it was one of them). I'm just on the HELLYEAH bandwagon.

... and Adam Baldwin as Mac? I see SOMEbody likes their taciturn Casey from "Chuck". :D

It's true!  I know Mac's supposed to be bald, but now it really is Adam Baldwin in my head doing the grunting and glaring and snorting and beer-pouring.  Though in a pinch, he might make a half-decent Michael.  Hm.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 09, 2010, 07:39:42 PM
nah.  I can't see Baldwin delivering Mac's "speech" in changes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 09, 2010, 07:42:14 PM
nah.  I can't see Baldwin delivering Mac's "speech" in changes.

I can.  It comes out kinda Jayne-y, but for better or worse, he's the voice in my head.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 09, 2010, 07:43:14 PM
Now the question is:  Is Baldwin willing to shave his head?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 09, 2010, 07:44:36 PM
Though in a pinch, he might make a half-decent Michael.  Hm.

Doesn't come across as clever as Michael seems in the books. Not to say he seems dumb, just not above average. Besides, he always seems a bit on the shady side to me (although that's part of what I love about him.) I could certainly see him as Mac, though. And in this case I think book description of physical appearance can go by the wayside a little and we can let Adam Baldwin keep his hair. I just don't picture him looking right without it.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 09, 2010, 08:04:46 PM
Adam Baldwin specializes in half-crazy, all-badass smarter-than-your-average-bicep bruiser.  I say bruiser because "thug" is too low and "ass-kicker" isn't descriptive enough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on September 10, 2010, 01:35:23 AM
Time to upset the apple cart again.

Crispin Glover for Nicodemus. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bluebeard on September 10, 2010, 01:58:49 AM
Who should play Nicodemus?

Mark Sheppard.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on September 10, 2010, 12:57:15 PM
I am blanking on the actor's name but he is currrently playing the King Of Mississippi on HBO's True Blood There is a second idea but due to lack of Cafine brain is working slowly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Starbeam on September 10, 2010, 01:04:29 PM
My b/f was watching a bio thing about Silence of the Lambs last night.  Made me think Anthony Hopkins could be good for Nicodemus.  Cause from what I remember, he was very much similar to Lecter.  Very creepy, but only in the little things he'd do, otherwise he was mostly normal and almost refined.  And what I remember is mostly from Death Masks; it's been a while since I've reread anything past Dead Beat.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 10, 2010, 01:23:11 PM
My choice for Nic was Bill Nighy
(http://screencrave.frsucrave.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/riseofthelycans09-1-24.jpg)
but the people were pretty unanimous that Bill Nighy was too old for Nic because Nic is suppose to look 30ish

so then I changed my vote to Gary Oldman for Nic
(http://img.listal.com/image/252176/600full-gary-oldman.jpg)

Crispin Glover definitely has the look, but I don't know if he is intimidating enough.
(http://meltyourfaceoff.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/crispin_glover.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 10, 2010, 02:49:39 PM
My b/f was watching a bio thing about Silence of the Lambs last night.  Made me think Anthony Hopkins could be good for Nicodemus.  Cause from what I remember, he was very much similar to Lecter.  Very creepy, but only in the little things he'd do, otherwise he was mostly normal and almost refined.  And what I remember is mostly from Death Masks; it's been a while since I've reread anything past Dead Beat.

*parties*

Another for Hopkins!  WaHoo!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 10, 2010, 02:54:36 PM
I think I mentioned this on another thread that was integrated with this one.
Sharlto Copley (guy from District 9) for Butters.  He does wacky amazingly well.

I think Gary Oldman would make a great Nic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Starbeam on September 10, 2010, 04:55:42 PM
*parties*

Another for Hopkins!  WaHoo!
A lot to do with how he portrayed Lecter.  It wasn't completely over the top or anything, when you first see him, he's simply standing there and says "Good morning."  Pleasantly.  Like I said, I don't completely remember much about Nic, but I seem to recall him being a generally normal guy, until the little details start to come out, and then he's creepy as hell.  I think Jeremy Irons could also do it.  Although that might be cause he was also a big contender for the part of Lecter.

Crispin Glover is just creepy from the get-go.  And it's easier to remember him as creepy and not the sorta nerdy wuss he was in Back to the Future.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 10, 2010, 05:33:06 PM
Actually, he gave me the creeps in Back to the Future too.  In my circle of friends, we never call him Crispin Glover.  He is known as "Creepy Pale Guy."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 10, 2010, 05:33:35 PM
A lot to do with how he portrayed Lecter.  It wasn't completely over the top or anything, when you first see him, he's simply standing there and says "Good morning."  Pleasantly.  Like I said, I don't completely remember much about Nic, but I seem to recall him being a generally normal guy, until the little details start to come out, and then he's creepy as hell.  I think Jeremy Irons could also do it.  Although that might be cause he was also a big contender for the part of Lecter.

Crispin Glover is just creepy from the get-go.  And it's easier to remember him as creepy and not the sorta nerdy wuss he was in Back to the Future.

That's what I said the first time I suggested him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on September 10, 2010, 05:35:48 PM
If Hopkins were 30 years younger, I'd be all for him as Nicodemus. As it stands now, his age lends him more towards Eb or possibly even the Merlin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 10, 2010, 05:54:29 PM
^ Agreed
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 10, 2010, 06:22:19 PM
I could get behind Hopkins as the Merlin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 10, 2010, 07:28:46 PM
I could get behind Hopkins as the Merlin.

Go back in time and get Richard Harris before he passed. He's got the look and he's certainly got the acting chops.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 10, 2010, 07:41:04 PM
I dunno, I like Hopkins as the Merlin 'cause ... Richard Harris was a sweetie pie.  Sure he could also pull-off a badass Dumbledore, but the Merlin should have that Old Warrior air about him, along with Wise Old Wizard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 10, 2010, 08:03:11 PM
Go back in time and get Richard Harris before he passed. He's got the look and he's certainly got the acting chops.

He's too nice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: The Corvidian on September 10, 2010, 08:30:27 PM
Go back in time and get Richard Harris before he passed. He's got the look and he's certainly got the acting chops.

Get his son, Jarrod to play the role.

Get W. Morgan Sheppard to play the role of McCoy, and his son Mark to play Morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on September 10, 2010, 09:10:12 PM
If Hopkins were 30 years younger, I'd be all for him as Nicodemus. As it stands now, his age lends him more towards Eb or possibly even the Merlin.
I agree, I've heard that Anthony Hopkins can do creepy well, but I can't think of any movies that I've seen with him where he plays a creepy character. (Actually, at the moment, the only movie that he's in I seen that I can think of is The Mask of Zorro)
But yeah, NI like him for Eb, but I do feel like mentioning that he's supposed to be playing Odin in Thor, who's the choice of Vadderrung?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 11, 2010, 01:10:42 AM
But yeah, NI like him for Eb, but I do feel like mentioning that he's supposed to be playing Odin in Thor, who's the choice of Vadderrung?

Awesome!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on September 11, 2010, 01:18:13 AM
I agree, I've heard that Anthony Hopkins can do creepy well, but I can't think of any movies that I've seen with him where he plays a creepy character. (Actually, at the moment, the only movie that he's in I seen that I can think of is The Mask of Zorro)
But yeah, NI like him for Eb, but I do feel like mentioning that he's supposed to be playing Odin in Thor, who's the choice of Vadderrung?

Have you never seen Silence of the Lambs?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 11, 2010, 02:50:56 AM
I dunno, I like Hopkins as the Merlin 'cause ... Richard Harris was a sweetie pie.  Sure he could also pull-off a badass Dumbledore, but the Merlin should have that Old Warrior air about him, along with Wise Old Wizard.

I don't recall seeing any warrior-ish description of Langtry in the books. He just looked like the wizard's wizard, IIRC.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 11, 2010, 03:01:24 AM
Moving off Merlin, Nic and Eb.  (Who walk into a bar....no never mind...just being silly.)
Anyway when someone mentioned only calling Crispin Glover the "creepy pale guy" it reminded me that we used to call Oded Fehr - "the tattooed desert dude" from "The Mummy."
Anyway, though he's a bit short - I nominate him for "The Gatekeeper"

Thinking about it - Arnold Vosloo might make a good Nic - he can do nasty really well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 11, 2010, 02:23:30 PM
Anyway when someone mentioned only calling Crispin Glover the "creepy pale guy" it reminded me that we used to call Oded Fehr - "the tattooed desert dude" from "The Mummy."
Anyway, though he's a bit short - I nominate him for "The Gatekeeper"

Mmm.  Oded Fehr.  Remember in The Mummy when the plane crashed, and he stumbled around, then took off that stupid flying hat and shook out that hair?  I fell in love.

Then he cut it.  Men with hair like that should be forbidden by law from cutting it.  Men with nasty hair can cut it, men with beautiful hair should never.

...

Sorry, where were we?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on September 11, 2010, 03:55:22 PM
Mmm.  Oded Fehr.  Remember in The Mummy when the plane crashed, and he stumbled around, then took off that stupid flying hat and shook out that hair?  I fell in love.

Then he cut it.  Men with hair like that should be forbidden by law from cutting it.  Men with nasty hair can cut it, men with beautiful hair should never.

...

Sorry, where were we?
tis easy to regrow hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Linnemir on September 11, 2010, 04:17:12 PM
Not sure where this falls in the conversation, but when I close my eyes, I see Kurt Russell as Michael, Will Smith as Sanya, and Pat Morita as Shiro.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 11, 2010, 05:47:27 PM
Not sure where this falls in the conversation, but when I close my eyes, I see Kurt Russell as Michael, Will Smith as Sanya, and Pat Morita as Shiro.

Hm...maybe this is just coming from seeing the old Kurt Russell college movies when I was a kid but I totally don't see him as Michael. I've seen him in more recent things too ("Posiedon" and "Sky High") and I just don't get the kind of sincerity and quiet strength that makes Michael so appealing.
As for Will Smith as Sanya, it conjures up a totally hilarious image (hearing Smith saying "Daaamn...tiny but fierce" with one of his adorably comical looks is not an image I will forget in a hurry.) Not Sanya to me but awesome.  :D
And as for Pat Morita, this is exactly how I picture Shiro as well. I've never conciously thought "he looks like Pat Morita," I've just kind of taken that fact for granted in my head.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 11, 2010, 08:36:40 PM
Hm...maybe this is just coming from seeing the old Kurt Russell college movies when I was a kid but I totally don't see him as Michael. I've seen him in more recent things too ("Posiedon" and "Sky High") and I just don't get the kind of sincerity and quiet strength that makes Michael so appealing.
As for Will Smith as Sanya, it conjures up a totally hilarious image (hearing Smith saying "Daaamn...tiny but fierce" with one of his adorably comical looks is not an image I will forget in a hurry.) Not Sanya to me but awesome.  :D
And as for Pat Morita, this is exactly how I picture Shiro as well. I've never conciously thought "he looks like Pat Morita," I've just kind of taken that fact for granted in my head.

Michael is still Paul Gross as Benton Fraser in Due South:

(http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LRG/27/2771/6ZKTD00Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 11, 2010, 10:50:01 PM
I dunno, I guess the closest I can get to Michael is a slightly younger Russell Crowe.

(http://www.topnews.in/uploads/Russell-Crowe1.jpg)

But not quite.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 11, 2010, 11:39:21 PM
I dunno, I guess the closest I can get to Michael is a slightly younger Russell Crowe.

(http://www.topnews.in/uploads/Russell-Crowe1.jpg)

But not quite.

Yikes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 11, 2010, 11:47:21 PM
Yeah, it's not quite.  The squinty eyes thing is all wrong.  But if I had to cast someone, he'd get it.  He's got the ability to be calm, quiet, and still powerful and intimidating.  He looks like he's been through it, and we know he can handle a sword, but I can also see him in a house full of kids, working on the treehouse.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 12, 2010, 12:11:54 AM
I still like Viggo Mortensen for the role. Viggo makes me think safety, and that's the sense I always get whenever I think of Michael.

ETA: Am watching LoTR: The Two Towers right now. Gandalf just came back. Viggo is cementing my belief in him as Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 12, 2010, 12:50:27 AM
I still like Viggo Mortensen for the role. Viggo makes me think safety, and that's the sense I always get whenever I think of Michael.

ETA: Am watching LoTR: The Two Towers right now. Gandalf just came back. Viggo is cementing my belief in him as Michael.

Doesn't have my vote for Michael but that is the only thing I don't approve of that has anything to do with him. Love him!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 12, 2010, 12:54:11 AM
Seriously, folks, watch a couple of episodes of Due South and you'll be converts.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 12, 2010, 01:54:29 AM
Seriously, folks, watch a couple of episodes of Due South and you'll be converts.

Forgive me, Shecky, I'm young. What the hell is Due South?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 12, 2010, 01:59:41 AM
Forgive me, Shecky, I'm young. What the hell is Due South?

A weird little variant on the typical cop show, in which one partner is an actual Mountie and the other is a sterotypical undercover cop.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 12, 2010, 02:16:39 AM
A weird little variant on the typical cop show, in which one partner is an actual Mountie and the other is a sterotypical undercover cop.

Ah. So it's half-Canadian? Does it poke fun at itself, or is it a serious show, along the lines of a procedural cop show a la CSI?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 12, 2010, 02:18:43 AM
Ah. So it's half-Canadian? Does it poke fun at itself, or is it a serious show, along the lines of a procedural cop show a la CSI?

Both. Drama but quirky, with nice broad strokes of some surprisingly smart comedy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 12, 2010, 02:22:37 AM
Both. Drama but quirky, with nice broad strokes of some surprisingly smart comedy.

I loved that show, Shecky.  Particularly watching the Chicago cop trying to deal with Mister Upright and clean the Mountie.
And no matter that they went into a sewer to do something - Fraiser, the mountie, would always emerge clean and unruffled much to the Chicago cops displeasure.  It was a pleasure to watch.
As for Paul Gross as Michael.  Hmm, hadn't thought of that.  I'd say he was too young but then there's always makeup and he does do that quiet strength thing VERY WELL.  Okay, ya got my vote on that one Shecky.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 12, 2010, 02:34:54 AM
I don't usually enjoy cop shows, but I'll give this one a shot. Thanks for the referral, Shecky :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on September 12, 2010, 11:44:30 AM
(snip)
Morgan-- Alan Rickman    You need menace.  the problem is that before Turn Coat Morgan has few dimensions.
(snip)
Nicodemus -- Christoph Waltz--- have you seen inglorious basterds?   
(snip)

Sorry, but I gotta go with Alan Rickman as Nicodemus. Saw this post and it just clicked.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on September 12, 2010, 03:23:06 PM
Have you never seen Silence of the Lambs?

Nope, Looking him up on IMDB, I've seen Mission Impossible II (which his must have had a very minimal role in, since it says that he was uncredited), The Mask of Zorro, damn... that explains why Zorro was the only movie that I could think of, it's really the only one I've seen... I was sure I'd seen more, pretty sure I own Fracture, though, but I've never watched it.

I don't recall seeing any warrior-ish description of Langtry in the books. He just looked like the wizard's wizard, IIRC.
Not in his physical appearance, or during any of his screen time, but you don't throw up wards to fend off vampires and Outsiders on the fly while retreating though the Nevernever without some pretty good skill in combat magic.

Not sure where this falls in the conversation, but when I close my eyes, I see Kurt Russell as Michael, Will Smith as Sanya, and Pat Morita as Shiro.
I think that Pat Morita as Shiro was discussed before with general approval, but his being dead was a bit of a problem.
Will Smith as Sanya... I don't know, I really don't think I could take him seriously with a Russian accent. Although I do recall Jim saying (presumably jokingly) that he though Will could pull off Harry personality well, but that he'd need to lose a fair bit of muscle.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on September 12, 2010, 06:49:34 PM
Nope, Looking him up on IMDB, I've seen Mission Impossible II (which his must have had a very minimal role in, since it says that he was uncredited), The Mask of Zorro, damn... that explains why Zorro was the only movie that I could think of, it's really the only one I've seen... I was sure I'd seen more, pretty sure I own Fracture, though, but I've never watched it.

I never felt that 30 was old until now.....

Just watch SoL. That is his definitive creepy role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 13, 2010, 05:49:59 AM
His name came up on another thread.
What about Avery Brooks for Morgan?  He does menace very well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Starbeam on September 13, 2010, 03:22:45 PM
Mmm.  Oded Fehr.  Remember in The Mummy when the plane crashed, and he stumbled around, then took off that stupid flying hat and shook out that hair?  I fell in love.

Then he cut it.  Men with hair like that should be forbidden by law from cutting it.  Men with nasty hair can cut it, men with beautiful hair should never.

...

Sorry, where were we?
Hehe...what I remember about that scene isn't so much the hair, it's that he pulls the machine gun off the plane to take with him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Paynesgrey on September 13, 2010, 03:52:10 PM
Hehe...what I remember about that scene isn't so much the hair, it's that he pulls the machine gun off the plane to take with him.

Heh... Mummy 2, the line "No thank you, I prefer the Thompson..."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 13, 2010, 06:01:58 PM
Hehe...what I remember about that scene isn't so much the hair, it's that he pulls the machine gun off the plane to take with him.

Yes indeed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on September 13, 2010, 09:31:39 PM
His name came up on another thread.
What about Avery Brooks for Morgan?  He does menace very well.

Depends on how faithful you want to be to the books...

"He was a big man, over six feet, with plenty of muscle—and he was completely limp...tall, heavily muscled, with a lean, sunken face I'd always associated with religious ascetics and half-crazy artists. He had brown hair that was unevenly streaked with iron, and a beard that, while always kept trimmed, perpetually seemed to need a few more weeks to fill out. He had hard, steady eyes, and all the comforting, reassuring charm of a dental drill."

Not sure where in the books it is, but I got the impression that Morgan was Caucasian, Conrad Coates' performance as Warden Morgan notwithstanding.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 13, 2010, 10:38:28 PM
Depends on how faithful you want to be to the books...

"He was a big man, over six feet, with plenty of muscle—and he was completely limp...tall, heavily muscled, with a lean, sunken face I'd always associated with religious ascetics and half-crazy artists. He had brown hair that was unevenly streaked with iron, and a beard that, while always kept trimmed, perpetually seemed to need a few more weeks to fill out. He had hard, steady eyes, and all the comforting, reassuring charm of a dental drill."

Not sure where in the books it is, but I got the impression that Morgan was Caucasian, Conrad Coates' performance as Warden Morgan notwithstanding.



I totally agree with you about his being from a Caucasian ethnic background. As for the description, I always picture him somewhat ruggedly hansome, in spite of Harry's description. I think Harry was just a bit biased so I don't really take his censure of Morgan's appearance very seriously. Harry is petty like that.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 13, 2010, 11:03:22 PM
I keep imagining the Merlin to look very much like Sir Ian McKellen. I blame Gandalf. *sigh*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on September 14, 2010, 12:41:00 AM
I see christopher lee myself.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on September 14, 2010, 01:09:06 AM
I see christopher lee myself.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 14, 2010, 02:09:24 AM
I totally agree with you about his being from a Caucasian ethnic background. As for the description, I always picture him somewhat ruggedly hansome, in spite of Harry's description. I think Harry was just a bit biased so I don't really take his censure of Morgan's appearance very seriously. Harry is petty like that.  ;)

I thought I remember somewhere that Morgan is described as having dark skin.  I think it was in Storm Front somewhere.  Anyway, it was my understanding from the start that he was not Caucasian.  But, I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on September 14, 2010, 03:28:55 AM
No, Morgan was played by a black man in the television show. I don't think he's described as such in the books. It was kind of a bone of contention for cannon purists at the time.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dwilson1282 on September 14, 2010, 12:52:38 PM
Yeah because white people never get a break in holywood...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 14, 2010, 01:49:16 PM
Here is the graphic novel image of what Morgan is suppose to look like.

(http://jim-butcher.com/pics/dabelSF02005.jpg)

Morgan had long grey hair pulled back in a ponytail, and a craggy face with a perpetually grim, often sour expression. He was apparently Germanic in origin.

But there is another description of him too.

[from Turn Coat]
My first impression of the guy had stuck with me pretty hard—tall, heavily muscled, with a lean, sunken face I'd always associated with religious ascetics and half-crazy artists. He had brown hair that was unevenly streaked with iron, and a beard that, while always kept trimmed, perpetually seemed to need a few more weeks to fill out. He had hard, steady eyes, and all the comforting, reassuring charm of a dental drill.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on September 14, 2010, 03:17:20 PM
Yeah because white people never get a break in holywood...

Racism aside, I'll bet you I can name more black men who have played characters who were written white than you can name white men who have played characters who were written black.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 14, 2010, 03:21:38 PM
Racism aside, I'll bet you I can name more black men who have played characters who were written white than you can name white men who have played characters who were written black.

Morning MSD. 
 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on September 14, 2010, 03:28:18 PM
Morning Snowy!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 14, 2010, 03:31:45 PM
Morning Snowy!


How's the thundering horde.  AKA - the kitten Diamond.  At that age they sound like a herd of pygmy elephants even if there's only one. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 14, 2010, 03:39:44 PM
Racism aside, I'll bet you I can name more black men who have played characters who were written white than you can name white men who have played characters who were written black.

I only can think of one right now, Will Smith in I Am Legend.

But I am curious to read your list. I will take you up on the challenge.

And Robert Downey, Jr in Tropic Thunder.  :P
(http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/robertdjr.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 14, 2010, 03:51:34 PM
You might be suprised by how many white men have played black roles though if you go back to when they wouldn't hire blacks, and so white men would were black make-up to play the roles.

Whites who performed in blackface (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface) in film included Al Jolson, Eddie Cantor, Bing Crosby, Fred Astaire, Mickey Rooney, Shirley Temple and Judy Garland.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Minstrel_PosterBillyVanWare_edit.jpg)

Uncle Tom's Cabin (1903) all of the major black roles were whites in blackface.

D. W. Griffith's The Birth of a Nation (1915) used whites in blackface to represent all of its major black characters.

Taking all of that into consideration, you might be hard pressed to find an era when whites were played by blacks.

;)

Sorry MSD, had to take you up on this offer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 14, 2010, 03:56:33 PM
Blackface was usually done to make fun or stereotype the blacks, very much different than a white actor playing a part written for a black actor.  Very much different.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 14, 2010, 03:58:28 PM
I only can think of one right now, Will Smith in I Am Legend.

But I am curious to read your list. I will take you up on the challenge.

And Robert Downey, Jr in Tropic Thunder.  :P
(http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/robertdjr.jpg)



you set yourself up for this one, MSD. xD teeheehee.

I found Tropic thunder hilarious as heck. xD I loved it, lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 14, 2010, 03:58:48 PM
Harry - Will Smith (http://authorjuliejames.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/will1.jpg)
Thomas - Tyrese Gibson (http://rmusicb.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/tyrese-gibson-11.jpg)
Morgan - Taye Diggs (http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l458/glvalentine/questionabletaste/equilibrium/EquilibriumStill0044-BrandtTayeDigg.jpg)
Kincaid - Wesley Snipes  (http://planb.episerverhotell.net/PageFiles/8399/wesley_snipes_08.jpg)
Michael - Forest Whitaker (http://static.ulike.net/img/01_Ghost_Dog:_The_Way_of_the_Samurai.jpg)
Marcone - Denzel Washington (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/denzel_washington1_300_400.jpg)
Ebenezar - Morgan Freeman (http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/244freemanmorgan092806.jpg)
Nicodemus - Samuel L Jackson (http://nycsveryown.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/samuel_l_jackson.jpg)
Carlos - Don Cheadle (http://www.etoday.ru/uploads/2008/02/10/don_cheadle.jpg)
The Merlin - Danny Glover (http://www.salsamania.it/news/farandula%20mia/dic07/danny%20glover.jpg)
Rashid - Laurence Fishburne (http://davidpelliott.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/matrix-morpheus_l1.jpg)
Injun Joe - Carl Weathers (http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/espy_awards_arrivals_5_120707/espy_awards_19_wenn1450311.jpg)
Waldo Butters - Chris Rock (http://data.yule.sohu.com/star/pic/star/3/3396/default.jpg)
Don Ortega - Jamie Foxx (http://hitmusicacademy.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/jamie-foxx.jpg)
Hendricks - Michael Clarke Duncan (http://www.thesharkbook.com/blog/uploaded_images/michael-clarke-duncan-729267.png)
Sanya - Topher Grace (http://www.bgawebsites.org/computerclass/2005-06/mollysaint/topher.jpg)

Susan - Sanaa Lathan (http://dafiffloor.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/sanaa-lathan-560.jpg)
Murphy - Halle Berry (http://www.twitterglitter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/1270975931.jpg)
Lea - Tyra Banks (http://traceyricksfoster.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/tyra-banks-gl10.jpg)
Mab - Angela Bassett (http://images.askmen.com/photos/angela-bassett/63837.jpg)
Charity - Vivica Fox (http://hiphopspy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/vivica-fox-4.jpg)
Luccio - Gabrielle Union (http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/05/04/2009-hot-100-100-91/71-Gabrielle_Union_Hot100_l.jpg)
Lara - Zoe Saldana (http://tbreak.com/rex/files/uploads/Zoe-Salda%C3%B1a41.jpg)
Molly - Alicia Keys (http://healmenow.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/alicia-keys.jpg)

BTW here is the perfect cast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 14, 2010, 03:59:43 PM
Blackface was usually done to make fun or stereotype the blacks, very much different than a white actor playing a part written for a black actor.  Very much different.

No, it was only done to make fun of later, it started off as serious roles, but just like back in the day when women weren't allowed to act, so men would dress as women in plays, the same goes for blacks in early film, they didn't do it to make fun of the stereotypes until much later.

Anyways, that's besides the point, those roles are "black roles" played by "white actors" no two ways about that.

Also "written for a black actor" was never part of the equation.
Besides, you don't write a role for an actor you write a role for a character.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 14, 2010, 04:17:11 PM
Not necessarily.  Old Man River was originally written in Showboat specifically for Jules Bledsoe.  Just one example of a role (or song in this case) being written for a specific actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 14, 2010, 04:18:56 PM
I stand corrected.

I should have said "usually don't write...."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 14, 2010, 04:19:43 PM
Good enough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 14, 2010, 04:23:29 PM
I see what you mean though, I could totally see writting a role just for Clint Eastwood or Chuck Norris regardless of the character.

But if the character is Clint Eastwood, I would cast Viggo Mortensen.  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on September 14, 2010, 04:35:14 PM
Dagnabbit, I just don't have time to do the research required for this right now.

But Will Smith has done a bunch more, too... like the guy in Wild Wild West. He apparently likes to do that, and he does it well.

And honestly, I was thinking more along those lines of race bending like Smith does than racist blackfacing. Smith doesn't white his face to take on the role, he becomes the character and erases the race.

So I will concede this one.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 14, 2010, 04:36:37 PM
Kewl, we're still all friends.

Michael Caine for Ronald Reul
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 14, 2010, 04:38:51 PM
Naturally, I wouldn't debate with people that weren't my friends, what would be the point if I don't like them or care what they think.

Did you see I cast Will Smith for Harry ^
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 14, 2010, 04:42:11 PM
I did.  I like Will Smith.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on September 14, 2010, 04:43:17 PM
ME, TOO!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Linnemir on September 14, 2010, 04:59:10 PM
Haven't trolled thru all 126 pages to check, but what part do people envision for our audio narrator, James Marsters?? He did an incredible job with Spike on Buffy, has a great deal of snark, is tall, and is certainly familiar with the character of Harry?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 14, 2010, 05:24:32 PM
He's the voice I hear when I think Harry these days.  I still like Alexis Denisof, but Marsters could do it.

And before anybody says anything about Weatherly, he COULD do it, but I can't picture him in a duster with a staff.  He belongs in a suit.  End of story.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 14, 2010, 07:30:04 PM
Yeah because white people never get a break in holywood...

I want to make it clear that I don't want to offend anybody and that I am decidedly not racist. However, I think the above argument has no place in casting decisions. If JB says Harry is brown haired we're not gonna cast him as a blond...it just doesn't make sense since their are plenty of brown-haired actors who would do a terrific job. And in a Buffy movie remake would we cast Spike as a guy with black hair? Or a Hispanic or an African-American? Would we cast Susan as a blue-eyed blond?
You say "white people never get a break in Hollywood," but the fact is that actors of all ethnicities have plenty of work to find in Hollywood for all kinds of roles.

And I would be equally opposed to seeing say, Jensen Ackles, play Will Smith's role in a remake of MIB. Yes, I think Ackles has the acting skill and style that would fit quite well but the fact still remains that he doesn't have the right look for the part. To me, saying you shouldn't consider ethnicity for a role is like saying you should cast a woman of average appearance to play Aphrodite in some movie about Greek myth. She may have all the acting skill in the world but she just doesn't match.

And as for the racist or result of racism (i.e. blacks weren't allowed to act) practice of face painting, I don't think that applies to discussions of current movie casting practices. And Nick Fury was changed to a black actor in the movies...Will Smith isn't the only black actor getting cast in roles written for a white actor. Plus there's the new Karate Kid.

Anyway, I just had to get all that off my chest. I hope no one was offended by what I said and I assure you that no offence was intended.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on September 14, 2010, 07:32:50 PM
I completely think James Marsters for Harry.  It may be from my love of him on Buffy and Angel, or most likely from his reading of the audio books.  He (to me) is the perfect Harry.  Full of snark and wit and he is quite nice to look at!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on September 14, 2010, 07:34:36 PM
If JB says Harry is brown haired we're not gonna cast him as a blond...it just doesn't make sense since their are plenty of brown-haired actors who would do a terrific job.

And this my dear is the crux of the argument against the actress who played murphy on TV and why faithful readers failed to connect with her even though she was a quite competent actress in the part.

Murphy is a blond, dammit. It makes a difference for her characters' struggles to be accepted in her workworld that she look completely "cute" and "not to be taken as a serious threat".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on September 14, 2010, 07:39:33 PM
Very true MSD.  I could never even begin to picture Murph without blond hair.

I've seen pictures of Marsters with his natural brown hair, looks good and very Harry-like.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 14, 2010, 07:52:44 PM
I've seen pictures of Marsters with his natural brown hair, looks good and very Harry-like.

Forgot to mention that...totally agree.  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 14, 2010, 07:57:09 PM
Harry for James.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 14, 2010, 08:08:30 PM
Speaking of ruining the part look what they did with bond, a blond bond, completely turned me off to the series.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 14, 2010, 08:30:24 PM
Holy crap, I'm away for two days and have to come back to five pages of catch-up. Yeesh.

As someone of Caucasian ethnicity and Middle Eastern background, I refrain from even commenting on any of the previous argument two pages ago. I have a big mouth, which comes complete with Foot-In-Mouth, and I'll get myself in trouble. I'd rather not.

(I like Will Smith, too, just so y'all know. His kids are freaking adorable, too.)

I would <3 James as Harry. One problem -- Harry has a height level of nearly 7 feet tall. James is anywhere from one to three inches shy of six feet. Without some very clever camera angles, and the use of lifts or something when James is on screen, they can't match the height.

As for his hair, he's got a great head of hair. Someone actually wrote a poem about it recently, and even got to read it for him. [[video]] (http://www.facebook.com/JamesMarstersLive?v=wall#!/video/video.php?v=1583598555894&ref=mf) // [[poem]] (http://www.facebook.com/note.php?saved&&note_id=431714118769&id=122340614003)

BTW, he normally has an afro when he just doesn't care. He's been afflicted with adorable, tightly wound curls since he was a child. You should see the one picture of him from high school that circulates the 'net.

Now that I've said that, here's a picture of him with his hair straight. Looks a wee bit like Harry Connick, Jr., yeah?

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/44/240188621_18777fc445.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on September 14, 2010, 08:33:34 PM
He is beautiful!  Perfect casting in my eyes!

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 14, 2010, 08:35:24 PM
Speaking of ruining the part look what they did with bond, a blond bond, completely turned me off to the series.

I agree his hair is a little too light but it is only dirty blond to light brown and not anywhere near "Spike blond" so I can forgive that for the most part.  ;) (Anyone else notices how I've now mentioned Spike or James Marsters at least 3 times on my limited number of posts today? I'm not trying to...he just keeps poping into my head. I must be in the mood for hi..ahem, I mean the show he was on.)  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 14, 2010, 08:36:24 PM
Ryan renolds impressed me in Wolverine Origins so i like him as harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 14, 2010, 08:39:50 PM
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/44/240188621_18777fc445.jpg)

He is beautiful!  Perfect casting in my eyes!

No kidding...that picture is awesome! He should be Harry for sure - brown hair, good looking but unique enough not to be too "Hollywooded up," and does snarky to a T.  ;) My vote has officially changed now.

P.S. Ryan Reynolds is gorgeous but he's too but to play Harry.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 14, 2010, 08:40:20 PM
So give him some lifts.  We have our Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 14, 2010, 08:48:34 PM
So give him some lifts.  We have our Harry.

Yay :)

I'm sure anyone who's watched the show knows that Master Jim originally asked James to portray Harry. James said no, because filming would take him away from his kids (his son, who was barely eleven at the time of the show's premiere, and his niece.) Come on. Say 'aww.' You know you want to. He's a family man. With that background alone, it would make him perfect for Harry, particularly around the time of Changes.

Not to mention, he's damn hot, and looks like he's still in his mid-twenties (James was born in 1962.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: eccence on September 14, 2010, 08:53:18 PM
MY OP:

Zach - not tall enuff; evil looking - or maybe I can't get his Hero's character out of my head
Lee - um, Lee who??? too young; too innocent looking
Paul - too blond, but maybe. can't picture him with dark hair
Tim - eh, too cute
Nathan - maybe ...
Joe - def possibility
Chris - heck no! too damn cute. Now he could be Thomas!
Neil - Really??? Seriously?  in what universe??
Jared - too pretty and too young

If I had to vote for anyone it would be Joe. I still say Paul Blackthorne is great!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 14, 2010, 08:55:48 PM
What about Clive?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 14, 2010, 08:59:20 PM

Jared - too pretty and too young


Jared's too pretty? Clearly you've never seen him on a candy binge, nor his chipmunk impression when he's drinking Dr. Pepper.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 14, 2010, 09:02:49 PM
Ryan is funny looks the part and he can kill all as the merc with a mouth
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 14, 2010, 09:16:44 PM
Yay :)

I'm sure anyone who's watched the show knows that Master Jim originally asked James to portray Harry. James said no, because filming would take him away from his kids (his son, who was barely eleven at the time of the show's premiere, and his niece.) Come on. Say 'aww.' You know you want to. He's a family man. With that background alone, it would make him perfect for Harry, particularly around the time of Changes.

Not to mention, he's damn hot, and looks like he's still in his mid-twenties (James was born in 1962.)

Born in 1962??? No way...really? I knew he was older than he looked but I can't believe he's actually 48. I guess as a 17 year old I shouldn't still find him hot but I can't help myself. And a family man, too. I'll say just go ahead and say it - awwww...  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 14, 2010, 10:54:01 PM
Born in 1962??? No way...really? I knew he was older than he looked but I can't believe he's actually 48. I guess as a 17 year old I shouldn't still find him hot but I can't help myself. And a family man, too. I'll say just go ahead and say it - awwww...  :D

Dude, I started watching Buffy at age 14 (that was in 1999 for anyone counting). Buffy was in its third season, and my very first episode ever watched was Lovers' Walk, the season three episode where Spike came back to Sunnydale head over tails drunk off his gourd and blaming his break up on Buffy and Angel (who, by the way, I hated on sight, before I'd ever even seen him in Season 2. Boreanaz is hot, but his wishy-washy "Oh, I can't, Oh, it's wrong, Oh, I have to suffer to be happy and drag the girl I love down with me before fucking her up beyond all recognition" spiel pissed me off).

James was 37 years old when he filmed that episode, and despite being fourteen and very aware of the inherent RL ick-factor, I had absolutely NO qualms in having a crush on the man :) Those eyes, and those cheekbones alone... guh. And when I found out that he was a family man (which, admittedly, wasn't until Buffy was well off the air, and I got desperate looking for more info on him)? Oh. That sealed the deal :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 14, 2010, 11:10:18 PM
Dude, I started watching Buffy at age 14 (that was in 1999 for anyone counting). Buffy was in its third season, and my very first episode ever watched was Lovers' Walk, the season three episode where Spike came back to Sunnydale head over tails drunk off his gourd and blaming his break up on Buffy and Angel (who, by the way, I hated on sight, before I'd ever even seen him in Season 2. Boreanaz is hot, but his wishy-washy "Oh, I can't, Oh, it's wrong, Oh, I have to suffer to be happy and drag the girl I love down with me before fucking her up beyond all recognition" spiel pissed me off).

James was 37 years old when he filmed that episode, and despite being fourteen and very aware of the inherent RL ick-factor, I had absolutely NO qualms in having a crush on the man :) Those eyes, and those cheekbones alone... guh. And when I found out that he was a family man (which, admittedly, wasn't until Buffy was well off the air, and I got desperate looking for more info on him)? Oh. That sealed the deal :)

No kidding - who knew a guy's cheekbones could be so sexy?  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 14, 2010, 11:11:08 PM
Speaking of James (and Spike) he is currently LOSING in a freaking poll to John Locke from LOST. This is completely unacceptable. Spike is a multidimensional character. I've never seen more than one episode of LOST, but I refuse to believe the Locke is better than Spike. If you can, please vote for Spike? (And if you don't like Spike, vote for him anyway, esp. if you don't like LOST, lol.) 2010 Character Competition - Day 7.Round 1.7 (http://bit.ly/99C0V9)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 14, 2010, 11:15:26 PM
How is Nathan Fillion winning i like him but do you guys hate harry as much as butcher does. the profile doesn't fit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 14, 2010, 11:19:17 PM

P.S. Ryan Reynolds is gorgeous but he's too but to play Harry.  ;)

Hat.  Love you.  Love your temple and all.  But... *what*?!  He's too but to play Harry? :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 14, 2010, 11:22:13 PM
I like him as harry and before i started reading this thread me and my friends were trying to decide who would be who with ryan as harry, travolta as marcone, and Michal West as butters
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 14, 2010, 11:23:31 PM
Hat.  Love you.  Love your temple and all.  But... *what*?!  He's too but to play Harry? :D

Lol - I always wonder if people know who my user name refers to. (I'm a major Egyptian history buff.  ;)) Yes, I'm afraid, for once, being buff works to his disadvantage. Harry, although he gets fitter later on, is still built like a runner. If he had a body like Ryan Reynolds I don't imagine he'd have cause to envy Michael or Thomas.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 14, 2010, 11:26:59 PM
Lol - I always wonder if people know who my user name refers to. (I'm a major Egyptian history buff.  ;)) Yes, I'm afraid, for once, being buff works to his disadvantage. Harry, although he gets fitter later on, is still built like a runner. If he had a body like Ryan Reynolds I don't imagine he'd have cause to envy Michael or Thomas.  ;)

This is very true! He might have a six pack, but it would be a very undefined six pack :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 14, 2010, 11:35:11 PM
Oh, BUILT.  I couldn't decide if you were going for "butt ugly" or what.

Ryan Reynolds only has that physique when he works hard for it.  Between movies, he de-buffs quite nicely into a gangly sort of guy that's all arms and legs.  He's said in several interviews that he really hates the hours and hours of gym time it takes to keep the bod, but the female attention doesn't suck and I can only imagine ScarJo digs it.  I can't imagine he'd be at all loathe to let it go into "abs of cardboard".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 14, 2010, 11:50:56 PM
Oh, BUILT.  I couldn't decide if you were going for "butt ugly" or what.

Ryan Reynolds only has that physique when he works hard for it.  Between movies, he de-buffs quite nicely into a gangly sort of guy that's all arms and legs.  He's said in several interviews that he really hates the hours and hours of gym time it takes to keep the bod, but the female attention doesn't suck and I can only imagine ScarJo digs it.  I can't imagine he'd be at all loathe to let it go into "abs of cardboard".

Oops...did I mistype that? My bad! Ryan Reynolds is hot and I could never say something bad about him like that. No wonder you were confused!

I didn't know he hates to work out. Interesting... I'll try to find pics of him in between "abs" periods and see what I think then.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 15, 2010, 12:04:43 AM
How is Nathan Fillion winning i like him but do you guys hate harry as much as butcher does. the profile doesn't fit.

Hee.  Hee.  Heeeeeeee.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 15, 2010, 01:29:06 AM
lol, I'm still stuck with Michael Weatherly as Harry in my head. I need to stop watching NCIS and look for other shows with harry-ish people. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 15, 2010, 01:47:55 AM
How is Nathan Fillion winning i like him but do you guys hate harry as much as butcher does. the profile doesn't fit.

I'm sorry, I left my codebook back at the clubhouse. Could you translate in the clear?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 15, 2010, 01:55:11 AM
How is Nathan Fillion winning?

I like him but he just doesn't fit the part, plus he is kinda chunky for Dresden.

Do you guys hate him by Casting Nathan so it fails.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 15, 2010, 02:00:07 AM
How is Nathan Fillion winning?

I like him but he just doesn't fit the part, plus he is kinda chunky for Dresden.

Do you guys hate him by Casting Nathan so it fails.

it's an old poll - we have other better candidates for harry now. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 02:06:17 AM
it's an old poll - we have other better candidates for harry now. :D

So many more that we still can't decide, lol.

(Update on that SpoilerTV poll I whined about earlier. Spike is now winning, but the poll is still open for another, say, 10 hours. I think. This is going to be massive. Vote for him anyway, lol. :) http://bit.ly/99C0V9)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 15, 2010, 02:23:39 AM
I love James Marsters.
That aside, he is a bit short to play Harry and part of Harry's character is his height.
as the cop says in White Knight "How many NBA sized gay white guys with dogs have you seen around here."  or some such thing.

Interesting to know that JB wanted Marsters for Harry. 
If not Harry, how about Marsters for Chandler/Steed?  He dresses up REAL NICE.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 02:27:01 AM
I love James Marsters.
That aside, he is a bit short to play Harry and part of Harry's character is his height.
as the cop says in White Knight "How many NBA sized gay white guys with dogs have you seen around here."  or some such thing.

Interesting to know that JB wanted Marsters for Harry.  
If not Harry, how about Marsters for Chandler/Steed?  He dresses up REAL NICE.

To hear Marsters with a British accent again? Excuse me.

*wipes up drool from face*

That's better.

I'd go for it, but I dunno if others would. Despite LOOKING like he's still in his twenties, James isn't :) Still adore him, though!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 15, 2010, 02:30:05 AM
To hear Marsters with a British accent again? Excuse me.

*wipes up drool from face*

That's better.

I'd go for it, but I dunno if others would. Despite LOOKING like he's still in his twenties, James isn't :) Still adore him, though!

Age can be minimized with lighting and make-up and somethings ya just gotta roll with. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 02:42:58 AM
Age can be minimized with lighting and make-up and somethings ya just gotta roll with. ;D

Dude, I don't care, so long as those gorgeous baby blues and those sharp-as-knives cheekbones come out in the best light :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 15, 2010, 02:47:05 AM
Dude, I don't care, so long as those gorgeous baby blues and those sharp-as-knives cheekbones come out in the best light :D

Ain't that the truth.  A friend of mine loves to go down to Hollywood Blvd. on Halloween night to see all the costumes, weirdos, and weirdos in costume.  Anyway, was taking a picture of a very cute chick in a Wonder Woman outfit when he realizes that her boyfriend looks really, really familiar.  Turns out it was James Marsters in his Spike days.  I took the photo and cropped out the lovely lady leaving only the handsome gentleman.  Da*n he's good looking.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 15, 2010, 02:52:33 AM
Nathon Fillion for Michal
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 15, 2010, 02:56:02 AM
Nathon Fillion for Michal

Fillion has his strengths but I don't think he's right for Michael.
Too young, though make-up can overcome that.  But, I just don't see him as Michael.
I'm with Shecky on this one - Paul Gross from Due South.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 15, 2010, 03:00:43 AM
Dude, I don't care, so long as those gorgeous baby blues and those sharp-as-knives cheekbones come out in the best light :D

You're desciption alone conjures up enough of an image of Marsters to get me drooling.  ;) And I know he may not be tall but with as awesome as he is if JB wants him for the role of Harry that is all the convincing I need. Marsters as Harry all the way!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 03:41:59 AM
Ain't that the truth.  A friend of mine loves to go down to Hollywood Blvd. on Halloween night to see all the costumes, weirdos, and weirdos in costume.  Anyway, was taking a picture of a very cute chick in a Wonder Woman outfit when he realizes that her boyfriend looks really, really familiar.  Turns out it was James Marsters in his Spike days.  I took the photo and cropped out the lovely lady leaving only the handsome gentleman.  Da*n he's good looking.


Oh my god, I needs must see this picture right the hell now. See, now you've done it, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 03:44:01 AM
By the way, does anyone know how recent the WOJ was when he said Alexis Denisof for Harry? Because now, I'm curious to know what changed between 2007, and whenever Jim pinged on Denisof?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 03:45:11 AM
You're desciption alone conjures up enough of an image of Marsters to get me drooling.  ;) And I know he may not be tall but with as awesome as he is if JB wants him for the role of Harry that is all the convincing I need. Marsters as Harry all the way!

Where the hell is the 'LIKE' button on this board?!

Oh, wait, this isn't Facebook. Argh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Linnemir on September 15, 2010, 04:02:06 AM
I love James Marsters.
That aside, he is a bit short to play Harry and part of Harry's character is his height.
as the cop says in White Knight "How many NBA sized gay white guys with dogs have you seen around here."  or some such thing.

Interesting to know that JB wanted Marsters for Harry. 
If not Harry, how about Marsters for Chandler/Steed?  He dresses up REAL NICE.

If they could make John Rhys-Davies (a six footer) look dwarven height, why couldn't they reverse the camera trick and make JM look taller??

Yeah, he'd do a good job with Steed, but it's just a relatively small part (so far!)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 01:36:47 PM
If they could make John Rhys-Davies (a six footer) look dwarven height, why couldn't they reverse the camera trick and make JM look taller??

Yeah, he'd do a good job with Steed, but it's just a relatively small part (so far!)

Very good point!

Although Orlando Bloom is 5'11" and Legolas was supposed to be bizarrely, lithely tall.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: eccence on September 15, 2010, 01:46:09 PM
By the way, does anyone know how recent the WOJ was when he said Alexis Denisof for Harry? Because now, I'm curious to know what changed between 2007, and whenever Jim pinged on Denisof?

Alexis isn't rakish enough (said in a whiny voice).  Nor is he handsome enough.  He just seems blah. C'mon, Paul Blackstone looks perfect as Harry! Does no one agree???
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: eccence on September 15, 2010, 01:51:08 PM
If they could make John Rhys-Davies (a six footer) look dwarven height, why couldn't they reverse the camera trick and make JM look taller??

Yeah, he'd do a good job with Steed, but it's just a relatively small part (so far!)


Hey hey hey, what about Jonathan Rhys Meyers for Harry??? He's tall enough. Runner's build. Gorg as all get out ... well maybe too gorgeous, but I love him!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 15, 2010, 01:58:29 PM
Alexis isn't rakish enough (said in a whiny voice).  Nor is he handsome enough.  He just seems blah. C'mon, Paul Blackstone looks perfect as Harry! Does no one agree???

I do, but there are others who could do Harry too, and look a little better as him. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 15, 2010, 02:13:49 PM
By the way, does anyone know how recent the WOJ was when he said Alexis Denisof for Harry? Because now, I'm curious to know what changed between 2007, and whenever Jim pinged on Denisof?

He said it in October 2007 at PhauxCon.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 02:19:59 PM

Hey hey hey, what about Jonathan Rhys Meyers for Harry??? He's tall enough. Runner's build. Gorg as all get out ... well maybe too gorgeous, but I love him!

Hey, don't look at me. The minute y'all started talking about James Marsters, you brought up my love for him again. My butt is firmly planted in the James for Harry base camp now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 02:20:51 PM
He said it in October 2007 at PhauxCon.

Ahh, thank you Shecky. Is he still holding to that? It was three years ago, and a lot can change in three years.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: eccence on September 15, 2010, 02:36:05 PM
I do, but there are others who could do Harry too, and look a little better as him. xD


Maybe, but they weren't mentioned in this poll! lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: eccence on September 15, 2010, 02:37:12 PM
Hey, don't look at me. The minute y'all started talking about James Marsters, you brought up my love for him again. My butt is firmly planted in the James for Harry base camp now.

Ok, I'll join your team. I love James too, but he'll have to gruff up a bit to really play Harry. How tall is he anyway?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 02:51:05 PM
Ok, I'll join your team. I love James too, but he'll have to gruff up a bit to really play Harry. How tall is he anyway?

THAT is the only problem. James is a very average 5'11" (or somewhere in that margin. There's about a million different variations from people on his height.) as opposed to Harry's rather freakish 6'7"-6'8"-ishness. But, they can make tall people look like midgets, and they can freaking age Brad Pitt backwards with the power of CGI crap, so, that wouldn't be a problem. Besides, like most everyone who has listened to the audiobooks, James is the voice in my head when I think of Harry :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 15, 2010, 03:05:49 PM
*waves banner for Michael Weatherly*

...we need a young Harry. we keep suggesting old people. >>
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 15, 2010, 03:17:35 PM

Oh my god, I needs must see this picture right the hell now. See, now you've done it, lol.

I'll see what I can do.  I'm not sure I have it on disc, next have to find it, and then will probably have to get it scanned.
It'll take awhile.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 03:20:27 PM
*waves banner for Michael Weatherly*

...we need a young Harry. we keep suggesting old people. >>

*gasp* James is not old!

If he was old, I wouldn't want to... er. Ignore this sentence, please.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 03:20:59 PM
I'll see what I can do.  I'm not sure I have it on disc, next have to find it, and then will probably have to get it scanned.
It'll take awhile.

I can wait! :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 15, 2010, 03:22:24 PM
*gasp* James is not old!

If he was old, I wouldn't want to... er. Ignore this sentence, please.

honey, you don't know how old the... um, ignore this sentence too, please. I refuse to answer any questions that may arise with this sentence. xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 15, 2010, 03:22:47 PM
*waves banner for Michael Weatherly*

...we need a young Harry. we keep suggesting old people. >>

Michael Weatherly for Thomas.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 15, 2010, 03:23:49 PM
Michael Weatherly for Thomas.  Thank you.

He's hot, but not *that* hot. he's more.... rugged hot. he's... not.. 'pretty', like thomas.

and frankly, I don't see him pulling it off. >.<
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 15, 2010, 03:24:04 PM
Ahh, thank you Shecky. Is he still holding to that? It was three years ago, and a lot can change in three years.

I haven't heard him say word one about it recently. But remember, this is PERFECT casting, so we can go back in time, grab Denisof pre-illness and bring him back to the future for perfect filming. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 15, 2010, 03:24:33 PM
*gasp* James is not old!

If he was old, I wouldn't want to... er. Ignore this sentence, please.

I think this thread is rapidly descending out of PG-13.   ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 15, 2010, 03:36:07 PM
I haven't heard him say word one about it recently. But remember, this is PERFECT casting, so we can go back in time, grab Denisof pre-illness and bring him back to the future for perfect filming. :D

I didn't know that Denisof had been ill, Shecky.  Good morning, by the way.  What happened??
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 15, 2010, 03:51:58 PM
G'mornin'. Not precisely sure what happened; I just remember reading something about some neurological deal, IIRC.

*edit* Bell's palsy (according to Wikipedia):

Quote
According to the DVD release of Angel's Season Five, three weeks before the filming of the season premiere Denisof was stricken with Bell's palsy, from which he later recovered. Due to the paralysis of the left side of his face, scenes were structured as to not showcase the side effects.

Seems he's better now; good for him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 15, 2010, 03:54:27 PM
G'mornin'. Not precisely sure what happened; I just remember reading something about some neurological deal, IIRC.

*edit* Bell's palsy (according to Wikipedia):

Seems he's better now; good for him.

Oh.  Pierce Brosnan had that for awhile too. 
Glad to hear that he's better.  I liked his character a lot, like him too.  I think I'm a sucker for Brits to tell the truth.  At least some Brits. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 04:08:51 PM
honey, you don't know how old the... um, ignore this sentence too, please. I refuse to answer any questions that may arise with this sentence. xD

Doesn't matter anyway, Jaeh. He's engaged to a TWENTY-FOUR year old. *pouts* Way to kill my dreams, James. Apparently, 25 is too old for you :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 04:09:53 PM
I think this thread is rapidly descending out of PG-13.   ;D

Ah-ah-ah! I censored myself! :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 04:11:24 PM
G'mornin'. Not precisely sure what happened; I just remember reading something about some neurological deal, IIRC.

*edit* Bell's palsy (according to Wikipedia):

Seems he's better now; good for him.

Well, I'd hope so, it's been six years :D

I was watching Angel Season 5, and I never even heard that he'd been ill! I'm very surprised by that. Thanks for the info. Glad he's better.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 04:16:02 PM
Oh.  Pierce Brosnan had that for awhile too. 
Glad to hear that he's better.  I liked his character a lot, like him too.  I think I'm a sucker for Brits to tell the truth.  At least some Brits. 

And men who do their accents so convincingly you think they ARE British?

Seriously, I had no idea that Alexis and James were not British. Alexis was born in Salisbury, Maryland and James was born in Modesto, California. I heard rumors that on Season 2 of Buffy, not even the cast and crew knew that James wasn't actually from England. He based his accent off of Anthony Stewart Head's real accent.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 15, 2010, 04:19:43 PM
We need to get Anthony Stewart HEad in here somewhere.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 15, 2010, 05:12:14 PM
He kinda kicks ass as Uther.  I was all, "Giles!  Quit being mean to the little boy!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 15, 2010, 05:14:31 PM
He kinda kicks ass as Uther.  I was all, "Giles!  Quit being mean to the little boy!"

I just fell off of my couch laughing. Kali, I heart you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 15, 2010, 05:20:34 PM
It's what he does.  Head is a brilliant actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on September 15, 2010, 05:42:27 PM
Love Giles!

James Marsters is still Harry for me......

(http://www.tvfanatic.com/files/james-marsters_292x430.jpg)

Swoon!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 15, 2010, 06:25:53 PM
Realistically as far as age goes, it's still Lee Pace for me, out of the guys that are young enough to truly do this role currently.

Ignoring age, I say Clive Owen.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 15, 2010, 06:31:34 PM
What we really need is a new poll. I'm curious to see what 130 pages of casting conversations have done for the popular views on casting Harry. We have so many more people in the running now (*lobbies for James Marsters*.)  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 15, 2010, 06:42:26 PM
Unfortunately no one has any control over the poll anymore. I started the poll originally in another thread but when that thread merged here I no longer had any control over the poll.

From my experience though Alexis Denisof would win if a new poll was started.
Denisof because that is JB's pick, and from Whedonverse.

Thomas seems to be the second most popular character, but I already know that most of the people in the forum would vote for Matt Bomer.

I haven't really loved any of the Murphy choices, but Sarah Michell Gellar would win because there are just too many Whedonversies here.  :-X

Ironically Nathan Fillion is from the Whedonverse too, hence his winning in this poll.

James Marsters, also Whedonverse.

Matt Bomer may be the only non-Whedonverse actor in this, though he did star with Whedonverse actress Eliza Dushku in Tru Calling.

Does anyone else see a pattern?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 15, 2010, 06:51:04 PM
However if a new poll was started for Harry, I would say cut off everyone with less than 10 votes, even though that would eliminate 2 of my favorite picks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 15, 2010, 07:28:31 PM
However if a new poll was started for Harry, I would say cut off everyone with less than 10 votes, even though that would eliminate 2 of my favorite picks.

That's a good point. Do you mind if I create a new poll just to check on how the Harry votes stacks up now? I don't want to take traffic away from this thread but I'm just really, really curious to see the numbers. I'd list all those with 10 or more votes from this poll plus James Marsters and any other actors with significant followings on this thread.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 15, 2010, 07:42:24 PM
I don't mind, but it's not really up to me as none of these threads are mine anymore.

Once you start a new poll you might go to Site Suggestions and see if it can be merged here, and the new poll put in place the old one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 15, 2010, 09:36:10 PM
We need to get Anthony Stewart HEad in here somewhere.

YES. WE HAVE TO. WE JUST DO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 15, 2010, 09:38:11 PM
I don't mind, but it's not really up to me as none of these threads are mine anymore.

Once you start a new poll you might go to Site Suggestions and see if it can be merged here, and the new poll put in place the old one.

Okay, thanks...I'll set up the poll and see if I can do it. So who all should I list as potential Harry actors, people? I'm trying to go for popular choices here so only list ones you really think alot of people are going to vote for.

I've got:
Zachary Quinto
Ryan Reynolds
Hugh Jackman
Timothy Olyphant
Nathan Fillian
Joe Flanigan
Jered Padalecki
and
James Marsters

Who am I missing?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 15, 2010, 09:39:11 PM
And are should I exclude any of those?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 15, 2010, 09:53:19 PM
Michael Weatherly! xD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 15, 2010, 10:09:32 PM
Alexis Denisof
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 15, 2010, 10:23:24 PM
Michael Weatherly! xD
Alexis Denisof

Right. Of course...we've talked about them so much I really shouldn't miss them.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 15, 2010, 10:30:18 PM
maybe you can make it that we can choose 1-2 actors for Harry... :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 15, 2010, 11:38:01 PM
maybe you can make it that we can choose 1-2 actors for Harry... :D

I certainly can if you guys would like. I think most of us feel that there are a couple on the list who would do a respectable job...even if we can't all agree on which ones.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 01:43:24 AM
1-2 sounds perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 16, 2010, 01:45:42 AM
1-2 sounds perfect.

Okay...1-2 it is.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 01:48:49 AM
 8) Keanou Reeves for dresden
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on September 16, 2010, 01:56:20 AM
8) Keanou Reeves for dresden

(*THWACK!*)
(*THWACK!*)
(*THWACK!*)

Don't even DARE to defame the Dresden name with Mister "WHOA!"; besides, everyone knows Paul Reubens is a MUCH better choice...his death scene in Buffy The Vampire Slayer was truly Oscar-worthy!

(*Hands Reubens a package of Oscar Meyer Bun-Length Beef Franks*)

By the way, anyone notice how much Reubens-the-Vampire resembled Nicolas Cage?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 02:03:28 AM
*ducks*
*ducks*
*ducks*

Listen we nee some objectivity and have you not seen him in the Replacements
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on September 16, 2010, 02:09:21 AM
*ducks*
*ducks*
*ducks*

Listen we nee some objectivity and have you not seen him in the Replacements

Which is more likely to occur, Ladies, Gents, and assorted Galactic Organisms?

(A.) Jesus Christ emerging from a UFO onto Times Square and signing a three-shows-a-night performance contract with The Rockettes at Radio City Music Hall, or......

(B.) Keanu Reeves making it through AN ENTIRE MOVIE without ONCE uttering "Whoa!"?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 02:12:33 AM
He did not say whoa once in The Day the Earth Stood Still
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 02:17:35 AM
He did not say whoa once in The Day the Earth Stood Still

Or the Devil's Advocate.  I think.  And Keanu Reeves shouldn't be allowed within a hundred miles of a Dresden Movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 02:21:46 AM
You're all bigots against normal people, i however choose to accept people who stay within a certain comfort zone unlike the rest of us.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 02:27:11 AM
You're all bigots against normal people, i however choose to accept people who stay within a certain comfort zone unlike the rest of us.

What zone is that?  His mansion?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 16, 2010, 02:29:40 AM
You're all bigots against normal people, i however choose to accept people who stay within a certain comfort zone unlike the rest of us.

His thespianic comfort zone is so narrow that it's just a line.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 02:30:14 AM
That makes him perfect for typecasting
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on September 16, 2010, 02:30:43 AM
He did not say whoa once in The Day the Earth Stood Still

You're probably right...it was the AUDIENCE that was saying "Whoa!" to this cinematic Sominex...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 02:33:43 AM
It was rather terrible *sticks tongue at movie*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 02:46:21 AM
Is it bad that the only movies I like him in are carried by other actors?  Speed Sandra Bullock.  Advocate Al Pacino.  Haven't seen Matrix yet, got it reserved.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Murphy's Stunt Double on September 16, 2010, 02:47:30 AM
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure - George Carlin...  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 02:50:39 AM
Is it bad that the only movies I like him in are carried by other actors?  Speed Sandra Bullock.  Advocate Al Pacino.  Haven't seen Matrix yet, got it reserved.

Haven't seen the matrix *slaps head*  where have you been the last ten years a third world country
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 02:59:08 AM
For the last ten years my favorite movies were dramas and comedies.  It's only the last few years I've gotten into the action drama.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 03:18:54 AM
See it live it, you are it neo you're the one
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 16, 2010, 03:22:32 AM
Does anyone else see a pattern?

We're all from a bizarrely large family following the whacky capabilities of Joss Whedon, and we're obsessed?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 03:26:09 AM
I was just joking about Reeves i still like Renolds for the part i thought mentioning Reeves would give you people perspective.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 03:27:19 AM
I was just joking about Reeves i still like Renolds for the part i thought mentioning Reeves would give you people perspective.

Thank GAWD!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 03:28:31 AM
He would be Grevene
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 16, 2010, 03:28:33 AM
@hatshep

If you're still looking for people to add to the poll, don't forget Lucas Bryant. He's newly emerging.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 03:29:50 AM
He would be Grevene

Maybe.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 03:31:02 AM
No one replied on having Travolta be Marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 03:32:28 AM
you mean Travolta a la Punisher?  I don't think so.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 03:33:32 AM
???? Travolta wasn't the punisher? in either movie
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 16, 2010, 03:41:14 AM
No one replied on having Travolta be Marcone

Travolta has gotten on my last damn nerve. I don't even remember the last movie I saw him in that I enjoyed.

Description of Marcone from the paperback edition of White Night:


     Marcone came in.
     He wore a gunmetal grey Armani suit with Italian leather shoes, and his shirt was open one button at the throat. He was an inch or two above average height, and had looked like an extremely fit forty-year-old ever since I had known him. His haircut was perfect, his grooming immaculate, and his eyes were the color of worn dollar bills.


(ETA: FYI, average height for a male in the United States is about 5 feet, 9.5 inches. So that means that Marcone is around 5'11".)

The description sounds like Travolta could pull it off, yes, but all things considered, I'd rather he not have anything to do with this movie. I keep hearing his stupid accent from Grease infiltrating into the character.

Just for fun, here's the description of Cujo Hendricks, which preceeded Marcone's:


     A large man came through the door. He was built like a bulldozer made out of slabs of raw, workingman muscle, thick bones, and heavy sinews. He had a neck as thick as Murphy's waist, short red hair, and beady eyes under a heavy brow. His expression looked like it had been permanently locked into place a few seconds after someone had kicked his puppy through a plate-glass window.



Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 03:41:41 AM
I know.  He was the villian.  and I still say no.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 03:49:24 AM
Watch domestic Disturbance and you will understand
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on September 16, 2010, 04:06:39 AM
Or the Devil's Advocate.  I think.  And Keanu Reeves shouldn't be allowed within a hundred miles of a Dresden Movie.

I'm still wondering if his Cowboy bebop movie will even get going.
He's supposed to play Spike. *shivers*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on September 16, 2010, 08:01:37 AM
My wife and daughter were watching Smallville around the time I heard about the Dresden Files TV show, they were around that part where James Marsters plays Clarks professor. My first thought was, he would make a GREAT Harry. Only after that did I hear that Mr. Marsters did the audios, which just works!!!

But everyone has a point, he is slightly too short. But why not cast him as Thomas then, considering the general consensus of all the ladies on this board  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 09:37:09 AM
 :o  8)  ???  ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on September 16, 2010, 10:06:06 AM
We need to get Anthony Stewart HEad in here somewhere.

What about Head as Marcone... Look on his wikipedia page, there's a picture of him from Doctor Who. Just add slightly longer hair and... could work.

We're all from a bizarrely large family following the whacky capabilities of Joss Whedon, and we're obsessed?

Lol. HUGE Firefly fan. Whedon to direct Dresden Movie!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on September 16, 2010, 10:16:41 AM
Chuck Norris for Kincaid!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 10:28:44 AM
Chuck Norris for Kincaid!!!!!  ;D

yes a thousand times bruce willas as kincaid
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 16, 2010, 11:38:02 AM
Chuck Norris for Kincaid!!!!!  ;D

WIN
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 16, 2010, 11:43:25 AM
Or the Devil's Advocate.  I think.  And Keanu Reeves shouldn't be allowed within a hundred miles of a Dresden Movie.
Although, he would be okay as MArtin... he won't even have to act much. xD

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on September 16, 2010, 12:01:53 PM
Although, he would be okay as MArtin... he won't even have to act much. xD

Keanu Reeves as Captain Bland. Works for me :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on September 16, 2010, 01:15:33 PM
Samuel L. Jackson for Kincaid  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 16, 2010, 01:17:43 PM
Samuel L. Jackson as Nicodemus.
(http://media.comicmix.com/media/2008/10/31/samuel-l-jackson.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 16, 2010, 01:27:25 PM
Samuel L. Jackson as Nicodemus.
(http://media.comicmix.com/media/2008/10/31/samuel-l-jackson.jpg)

You saw he's flipping you off, right?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 16, 2010, 01:41:39 PM
You saw he's flipping you off, right?

He is? I thought he was doing a Jedi mind trick.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 16, 2010, 01:49:57 PM
yes a thousand times bruce willas as kincaid

Wait, why would you agree to Chuck Norris, and then pitch Bruce Willis?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 16, 2010, 02:17:25 PM
I'm still with Jeffrey Donovan as Marcone.  He's the guy who plays Michael Westen on Burn Notice.  He's got that look he can do that just makes your spine contract.  Brrr!

Plus I really enjoy hearing his voice in my head during that phone convo Harry has with Marcone where Marcone makes him say "please". :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 16, 2010, 02:19:30 PM
What is Burn Notice?
 (http://www.hulu.com/watch/126486/saturday-night-live-burn-notice-game-show)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 16, 2010, 02:22:39 PM
I'm still with Jeffrey Donovan as Marcone.  He's the guy who plays Michael Westen on Burn Notice.  He's got that look he can do that just makes your spine contract.  Brrr!


... I've tried to watch the show, I really have (wife loves it and we try to share things). But all his look does for me is make me think he's mildly constipated. My apologies; I just can't take him seriously.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 16, 2010, 04:26:53 PM
Morning All.
Inspired by Paynes new Avatar.
How about Michael Caine as Merlin?
He can do funny but he can be as menacing as h*ll.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 04:33:42 PM
Morning All.
Inspired by Paynes new Avatar.
How about Michael Caine as Merlin?
He can do funny but he can be as menacing as h*ll.

I like this.  I also still like Meat Loaf for Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 16, 2010, 04:35:39 PM
I like this.  I also still like Meat Loaf for Michael.

Meat loaf for Michael????????????
Not unless he's gotten really buff lately.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 16, 2010, 04:35:57 PM
I'm still with Jeffrey Donovan as Marcone.  He's the guy who plays Michael Westen on Burn Notice.  He's got that look he can do that just makes your spine contract.  Brrr!

Plus I really enjoy hearing his voice in my head during that phone convo Harry has with Marcone where Marcone makes him say "please". :D

Ah-ha! Something logical! Now I CAN actually see this! And his height is around 6 feet, so that puts him right around Marcone's height. He's also 42 years old.

Very nice, Kali. I can definitely get behind this.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 04:38:43 PM
Meat loaf for Michael????????????
Not unless he's gotten really buff lately.

He's all ready got the "big" part down.  He just needs to sculpt it a bit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 16, 2010, 04:45:50 PM
Meatloaf....awesome.
(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/061026/12262__meatloaf_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 04:56:06 PM
Thank you, Moe.  And who know, maybe we can slip in "Anything for Love".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on September 16, 2010, 05:13:01 PM
Samual L. Jackson for anyone!  I like him a bunch.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 05:32:45 PM
Erlking
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 16, 2010, 05:49:50 PM
Meatloaf is one of those weird dudes who started out really, really unattractive but has grown good-looking.  Downright compelling, even.  Not handsome, maybe, but he's better than average, IMO, and he's just got something about him...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 05:57:09 PM
And his voice, awesome at first, has only improved with age.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on September 16, 2010, 06:05:30 PM
Kind of on the fence about Meat Loaf.  He is talented at singing and his acting isn't bad.  I think it's his name that makes me all, eh about him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 06:20:28 PM
Kind of on the fence about Meat Loaf.  He is talented at singing and his acting isn't bad.  I think it's his name that makes me all, eh about him.

He's a vegetarian.  Besides, his real name is Michael Lee Aday.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 16, 2010, 06:22:04 PM
He's a vegetarian.  Besides, his real name is Michael Lee Aday.

I think she may mean that it's not a very dignified name for someone playing Michael.
(This is only a guess on my part.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 06:34:33 PM
Oh who cares?  He's got a stage-and-screen credentials list longer than my arm.  Meat Loaf is synonymous with awesome skillz.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on September 16, 2010, 06:39:25 PM
My select few:

Harry - James Marsters (With dark hair obviously)
(http://mediarebellion.com/i/hosted/cobra/Spike%201.jpg)(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/16352/JamesMarsters20.jpg)

Thomas - Orlando Bloom (Hate myself for this but:)
(http://topnews.in/light/files/Orlando_Bloom11.jpg)(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/14267/Orlando%20Bloom.png)
Mac - Bruce Willis (For a laugh)
(http://www.celebweddings.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/bruce_willis1_300x400.jpg)(http://api.ning.com/files/ENIenLZ-T21QKDUAI2mQO2iS3rXg3JHK0-cpqY*mIt27XjdJE*A6FjAshmTsvRwus51jkqGiBvGF8n2hqwfCwLjDgbSN7wFf/BruceWillis.jpg)
Michael - Nathan Fillion
(http://tv.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/nathan-fillion-castle.jpg)(http://nathanfillion.org/wp-content/uploads/nf8.jpg)
Morgan - Brad Pitt (Some make-up to add abit of age and battle scars)
(http://www.hollywoodtrailers.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/brad_pitt.jpg)(http://www.layoutlocator.com/graphics/dldimg/295d6d34adbf5831f4abd49a0f982ff4_brad_pitt-5012.jpg)

And Alan Tudyk to voice Bob!!!! His comedic timing is brilliant, and if you've seen Dollhouse, he could do scary Bob quite well too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 16, 2010, 06:55:31 PM

And Alan Tudyk to voice Bob!!!! His comedic timing is brilliant, and if you've seen Dollhouse, he could do scary Bob quite well too.


JIM!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 16, 2010, 07:11:31 PM
Yeah, he was just frickin' disturbing in Dollhouse.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 16, 2010, 07:13:08 PM
I have to disagree with Orlando Bloom, because I hate him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 16, 2010, 07:19:48 PM
@hatshep

If you're still looking for people to add to the poll, don't forget Lucas Bryant. He's newly emerging.

You got him in just in time...I'm about to post the poll.  ;) Thank you guys for helping me flesh out the list. Question: nobody seems to be talking about Quinto for Harry and he only just barley got 10 votes on the current poll. Should I still include him?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 16, 2010, 07:21:55 PM
I added him of my own accord originally so I would say toss him, he kind of has that lispy way he talks.

It's too bad Heroes got cancelled though, but I can see why, it was hella expensive and not enough viewers.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 07:24:48 PM
BANG!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 07:26:01 PM
Orlando Bloom?  Brad Pitt?  Are you INSANE?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 16, 2010, 07:30:17 PM
^agreed.

Though Brad Pitt as Morgan does peek my curiousity......hmmm........
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 16, 2010, 07:33:27 PM
I added him of my own accord originally so I would say toss him, he kind of has that lispy way he talks.

Okay, sounds good to me. He doesn't seem like a Harry to me, even though I am quite fond of him. Loved him in Star Trek! (My sister, who was in love with the original Spock, even gave him her whole-hearted approval and is in love with him now.)  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on September 16, 2010, 07:37:50 PM
Sanya:

Michael Clarke Duncan or Wesley Snipes
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 16, 2010, 07:41:38 PM
nah. Wesley Snipes is too...coarse.  When I think Sanya, I think Tinker from the Sacketts, not Blade.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 16, 2010, 07:46:27 PM
Okay, the new poll is up so vote away.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on September 16, 2010, 11:18:06 PM
nah. Wesley Snipes is too...coarse.  When I think Sanya, I think Tinker from the Sacketts, not Blade.
Yeah, I actually just watched Blade earlier today, and he's not Sanya
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Enjorous on September 16, 2010, 11:20:26 PM
Okay, sounds good to me. He doesn't seem like a Harry to me, even though I am quite fond of him. Loved him in Star Trek! (My sister, who was in love with the original Spock, even gave him her whole-hearted approval and is in love with him now.)  ;)

I'm sure Leonard Nemoy is thrilled beyond belief :D :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 16, 2010, 11:23:33 PM
My select few:

Harry - James Marsters (With dark hair obviously)
(http://mediarebellion.com/i/hosted/cobra/Spike%201.jpg)(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/16352/JamesMarsters20.jpg)


I'm sorry, I think you just made my brain fizzle out completely. Get back to me with the rest when I stop fantasizing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 16, 2010, 11:24:46 PM
JIM!

Yup. Seriously, now, can someone get a 'LIKE' function or a 'RETWEET' function on these boards?

I agree with Shecky far too much. It's not a problem, I'm just stating a fact.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 16, 2010, 11:25:49 PM
You got him in just in time...I'm about to post the poll.  ;)

I have such freaking awesome timing :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 16, 2010, 11:26:41 PM
I'm sure Leonard Nemoy is thrilled beyond belief :D :P

Lol.  :D

Quote
I have such freaking awesome timing

That you do.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 16, 2010, 11:27:34 PM
Okay, the new poll is up so vote away.  ;)

Where?

(My brain's still fizzled from looking at James Marsters, I need a link posted or I can't function like a normal human being.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 11:31:30 PM
They should really put this on the november ballot
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 16, 2010, 11:35:11 PM
They should really put this on the november ballot

LOL! Never would so many people have turned out on election day!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 16, 2010, 11:36:19 PM
I would go twice just for that... ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 16, 2010, 11:54:09 PM
Where?

(My brain's still fizzled from looking at James Marsters, I need a link posted or I can't function like a normal human being.)

I see you found it...human beings are capable of just about anything when properly motivated.  ;D

I'm so glad to see everybody's votes. Thanks for voting, guys!  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 16, 2010, 11:56:07 PM
And here's the link for anybody who hasn't found it yet.  ;)

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,21170.msg924247/topicseen.html#new (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,21170.msg924247/topicseen.html#new)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 17, 2010, 03:54:02 PM
De-ni-sof!  De-ni-sof!  De-ni-sof!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 17, 2010, 06:24:01 PM
Denisof as Eb or The Merlin, I think those are the only two that have about the right age for Denisof to play.

 :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 17, 2010, 10:35:08 PM
Denisof as Eb or The Merlin, I think those are the only two that have about the right age for Denisof to play.

 :P

that's just silly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Faeknight on September 19, 2010, 07:10:08 AM
 Watching scrubs Where Neil Flynn wears a black leather trench coat, and with i a little work i could see harry dresden, he's got the height and the humor of the books.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 19, 2010, 06:17:50 PM
no well.....no
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on September 20, 2010, 01:07:36 PM
Watching scrubs Where Neil Flynn wears a black leather trench coat, and with i a little work i could see harry dresden, he's got the height and the humor of the books.

Another one in the Neil Flynn corner. :)

We are here.... slightly.  lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 20, 2010, 10:55:45 PM
No well..............no
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 20, 2010, 11:44:57 PM
Where'd the option for Denisof go?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 21, 2010, 12:50:47 PM
It's here,

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,21170.0.html

hasn't been merged with this thread.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 21, 2010, 04:58:55 PM
Wuz watching Hawai'i 5.0 last night.  James Marsters was the guest star bad guy.  I thought it worked for him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 21, 2010, 06:31:20 PM
Wuz watching Hawai'i 5.0 last night.  James Marsters was the guest star bad guy.  I thought it worked for him.

Yeah, I loved it! Alex O'Laughlin is a personal favorite of mine and just about everybody on this forum knows how I feel about Marsters so as you might guess, I was in heaven. Seriously, though, I loved the show! Great character chemistry, even though it was just the first ep. I have very high hopes for the show.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 21, 2010, 06:32:19 PM
watching Angel and i really don't like him for harry i think he would make a better Grevene
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 21, 2010, 06:37:28 PM
Apropos of nothing but who played vampires well on TV, the *best* I've ever seen was Kyle Schmid in "Blood Ties".  He played Henry Fitzroy, bastard son of King Henry VIII.  He had to play what Tanya Huff in her books describes as Prince of the Night/Prince of Man.  He manages to do both with a fluidity that's surprising.  He has both nobility and regal bearing, and then with a tilt of his head and a twist of his lips, he's the feral hunter with barely leashed hunger.  It's a performance that I applaud.  Really great acting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 21, 2010, 06:38:14 PM
watching Angel and i really don't like him for harry i think he would make a better Grevene

Not saying this is it, but part of that could be due to his Spike accent. Although he is American he can do just about any accent - Cockney on "Buffy" and "Angel," a Louisiana bayou accent he auditioned with (back when Whedon though Spike was going to be Cajun,) a hilariously good French accent I heard him do on an interview, and was that a Scottish accent on "Hawaii 5-0" last night?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 21, 2010, 06:40:31 PM
mayhap
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 21, 2010, 08:19:03 PM
Not saying this is it, but part of that could be due to his Spike accent. Although he is American he can do just about any accent - Cockney on "Buffy" and "Angel," a Louisiana bayou accent he auditioned with (back when Whedon though Spike was going to be Cajun,) a hilariously good French accent I heard him do on an interview, and was that a Scottish accent on "Hawaii 5-0" last night?

Irish :) The nuances are very similar, but an Irish accent has a bit more of a old-worldy inflection to it. But my ears may be biased. I love Ireland :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 21, 2010, 08:26:16 PM
Irish :) The nuances are very similar, but an Irish accent has a bit more of a old-worldy inflection to it. But my ears may be biased. I love Ireland :)

Hmm...good ear. For some reason I tend to assume Scottish first (maybe because my Mom loves Scotland.) I see what you mean about there being a difference though. I should have known it was Irish since I tend to like Irish actors' voices better than Scottish ones. (In this case I guess I just assumed it was my bias for Marsters showing through, again.)  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 01:53:29 AM
What do you have against the best actor who ever lived.


(Sean Connery)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 22, 2010, 02:04:14 AM
What do you have against the best actor who ever lived.


(Sean Connery)

Ooh...his voice is pretty awesome! Didn't care for him much as Bond, although this may just be because I don't tend to like the slow pacing of older movies (except "Casablanca"...loved that movie!) But he was AWESOME as Indy's dad!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 02:06:39 AM
WHAT?? *hires own contract hitter* he is the best bond you...you....blond bond lover.


(He was pretty awesome as indys dad that is my favorite of those movies. DAD..JUNIOR....DAD.....Junior)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 22, 2010, 02:12:59 AM
What do you have against the best actor who ever lived.


(Sean Connery)

Huh? Who has something against Sean Connery?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 22, 2010, 02:15:02 AM
Out of curiosity, and since most people (including me) don't seem to like Moses' choice of Dakota Fanning as Molly, what does everyone think of her being cast as Tessa? Tessa is described as being short, lithe, and looking like a 15 year old.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 02:17:07 AM
Ooh...his voice is pretty awesome! Didn't care for him much as Bond, although this may just be because I don't tend to like the slow pacing of older movies (except "Casablanca"...loved that movie!) But he was AWESOME as Indy's dad!


This

and no TbF i don't like her as that but Aurelia the summer lady could be ...... Jessica Alba
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 22, 2010, 02:22:57 AM


This

and no TbF i don't like her as that but Aurelia the summer lady could be ...... Jessica Alba


*blinks*

... You mean Aurora?

How did we go from Tessa to Aurora there? Is there a universal translator for text built into the forum that I wasn't aware of? *genuinely confused*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 22, 2010, 02:24:01 AM


This

and no TbF i don't like her as that but Aurelia the summer lady could be ...... Jessica Alba

Now you're just screwing with us.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 02:26:44 AM
Actually I'm serious on this one i think when she has her hair in a pony tail she looks a lot younger and innocent
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 22, 2010, 02:30:30 AM
WHAT?? *hires own contract hitter* he is the best bond you...you....blond bond lover.


(He was pretty awesome as indys dad that is my favorite of those movies. DAD..JUNIOR....DAD.....Junior)

Lol! Now I'm the one in the bunker. But don't worry...it is well stocked as we are old friends. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 02:33:55 AM
I will forgive you if you promise youll watch You Can Only Live Twice
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 22, 2010, 02:39:40 AM
I will forgive you if you promise youll watch You Can Only Live Twice

Lol! I'll see what I can do. We only get 1 movie at a time through Netflix so getting through our cue usually takes a while but I'll try. Do you know if its posted anwhere online where I could watch it for free?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 02:43:18 AM
Use the library it's cheaper and if you can't don't worry about it i was jk about the best bond movie ever
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 22, 2010, 02:49:33 AM
Use the library it's cheaper and if you can't don't worry about it i was jk about the best bond movie ever

Lol. *sighs with relief* Seriously, though, I only saw him in "From Russia With Love," which I've been told isn't one of his best. I think I'll try and give him another chance.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 02:52:08 AM
Yeah it's a sad story when a video game is better than a movie
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 22, 2010, 02:54:48 AM
Yeah it's a sad story when a video game is better than a movie

Lol! Isn't that the truth.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 02:59:41 AM
Love that game but you can only live twice is amazing, he is in Japan and i think we meet his father.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 22, 2010, 03:03:14 AM
Love that game but you can only live twice is amazing, he is in Japan and i think we meet his father.

Cool!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 22, 2010, 03:04:25 AM
Love that game but you can only live twice is amazing, he is in Japan and i think we meet his father.

I don't think we meet Bond's father in You Only Live Twice.
But I did love that film.  Let's hear it for Little Nellie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 03:07:23 AM
I watched it a while ago but i remember it being one reason i loved it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 22, 2010, 03:10:27 AM
Um. Anyway, back to casting...

No one agrees with Dakota Fanning for Tessa? Keep in mind that it's not gonna be her most of the time, it'll be a giant honking CGI Mantis Chick, so if it's her looks you object to... well, turning her into a preying mantis can't make things much worse, can it?

Plus, she's been slowly doing more and more BA roles, where she's not such a cutesie little cavity-giving sweetie pie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 03:15:43 AM
Hey i think they should get a nobody for tessa as inimportant as she is. Angolina Jolie for Gard?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 22, 2010, 03:18:26 AM
Hey i think they should get a nobody for tessa as inimportant as she is. Angolina Jolie for Gard?

Bite your tongue.  Wouldn't want that woman anywhere near a DF movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 03:20:06 AM
Fine nobody wants anything to do with any of my choices. *stomps off*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 22, 2010, 03:21:10 AM
Fine nobody wants anything to do with any of my choices. *stomps off*

Don't stomp off...(you left your bunker door open and you might fall in.)  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 22, 2010, 03:21:59 AM
Hey i think they should get a nobody for tessa as inimportant as she is. Angolina Jolie for Gard?

Um, okay, wow. Apparently, we have different ideas in mind of movie casting, particularly if they're basing the movies directly off the books. Unlikely, but still. My apologies if my ideas seem to be worthless to you.

Oh, and as for Angelina Jolie for Gard? That deserves a big honking no.

Good night.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 03:24:46 AM
Tessa was in what one book. maybe you could get someone good but i wouldn't waste it on a character. Jolie strikes me as a Bianca anyway
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 22, 2010, 03:25:52 AM
Tessa was in what one book. maybe you could get someone good but i wouldn't waste it on a character. Jolie strikes me as a Bianca anyway

Nice! I'm not sure if she can act (honestly, I haven't seen her in much) but looks wise she's a 100 percent match in my eyes.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 03:28:08 AM
Vengence is her middle name and she's crazy as a bat
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 22, 2010, 03:43:33 AM
Vengence is her middle name and she's crazy as a bat

Lol! I can't really speak for that, either. All I know is that, as a woman, she's the person I'd choose to look like if I were doing some kind of body swap. Minus all the tattoos, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 03:45:44 AM
Tattoo's ?  are you talking about Wanted?  If you haven't seen her a must is Mr. and Mrs. Smith with Brad Pitt
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on September 22, 2010, 09:31:46 AM
Just finished re-reading Changes for about the 4th time last night :), and the description Harry gives of the Red King made me think of Tom Cruise for some reason. 5'3" / 5'4", long black hair, looks and acts insane  ;D

And I think we need to start casting for Rudy ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 22, 2010, 03:24:11 PM
Sorry Grey Warden, did not mean to stomp on you.
Since Gard is, basically, a Valkyrie - she should be built somewhat more solidly than Jolie.
She doesn't have to be a Wagnerian Brunhilde size but not rail thin either.
You need to believe this woman can wield a weapon and wield it lethally.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 22, 2010, 03:42:21 PM
Just finished re-reading Changes for about the 4th time last night :), and the description Harry gives of the Red King made me think of Tom Cruise for some reason. 5'3" / 5'4", long black hair, looks and acts insane  ;D


I can see that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 22, 2010, 03:52:01 PM
Angelina Jolie could make a really good Bianca.

I originally pictured Jolie as maybe Lash or Mab.

But then I settled on M Belluci for Mab.

And I decided Lash should be more subtly beautiful like Kate Mara.

But I already have Kate Mara pegged as a Justine.

Justine >
(http://img.listal.com/image/441185/600full-kate-mara.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: laura_be on September 22, 2010, 05:10:40 PM
Last night there was nothing on tv except Mercy, which I found more interesting than writing my History paper, and it struck me that Taylor Schilling, if she were shorter, could totally play Murphy. What do you think?

http://img.clevvertv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/taylor-schilling.jpg (http://img.clevvertv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/taylor-schilling.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 22, 2010, 06:14:41 PM
A little young looking, otherwise about what I would picture.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wvincagold on September 22, 2010, 06:46:18 PM
Kristin Chenoweth i think would be the ultimate Murphy. She is larger than life and full of spunk. Plus she looks like Murph as described.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 22, 2010, 07:17:41 PM
Tattoo's ?  are you talking about Wanted?  If you haven't seen her a must is Mr. and Mrs. Smith with Brad Pitt

All I've actually seen her in is the "Tomb Raider" movies. (I've always been a huge fan of the computer games.) And of course I've seen a few clips from "Wanted" and a good number from "Mr. & Mrs. Smith." But I do know that most if not all of the tattoos she had in "Wanted" were her own. I've been wanting to see M&MSmith for a while now but I just haven't found the time yet. Still, I've seen enough of her to know that I approve of her as Bianca...as long as they work digital magic on her tattoos.

And I decided Lash should be more subtly beautiful like Kate Mara.

But I already have Kate Mara pegged as a Justine.

Nice choice. I like Kate Mara and I think she'd be great for either. (And for some reason I tend to be hyper picky when it comes to casting Justine. Don't know why...actually I guess I do. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I love Thomas. He deserves the casting of his girl to be just right.)  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 10:53:23 PM
I think they should  just keep a disembodied voice for bob. No people.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 22, 2010, 10:58:46 PM
I think they should  just keep a disembodied voice for bob. No people.

I agree. We'd be keeping the skull vessel though, right? I think, if done right, the skull lights could be very effictive and would make his factial expressions hysterically funny like I always picture them. (And I use the term "face" losely...does one technically have a face if one has no skin or muscle covering the front of their skull? Just a random though.)  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 11:03:56 PM
I agree i think they should have the guy who did despicable me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 22, 2010, 11:10:49 PM
I agree i think they should have the guy who did despicable me.

Who was that...Steve Carell? I didn't see him in that but I did see "Dinner For Schmucks." (Great movie, btw.) He is a hilarious actor and just might work. He played such a different role in "Dinner..." than he would have to play for Bob, though, so I can't really say for sure.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 22, 2010, 11:24:26 PM
Maybe maybe not but Get Smart was good
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 22, 2010, 11:41:29 PM
Maybe maybe not but Get Smart was good

That's funny...my brothers loved "Get Smart" - and I admit it was hilarious in places - but the flavor of that movie drove me actually crazy! It wasn't Steve Carell, though. I think I just didn't care for the direction they took with the movie, even if it was in line with the original TV show. At first I thought it was Carell and I kind of held it against him until I saw "Dinner For Schmucks" and then I was like "hey, this guy can act." I guess my problem with "Get Smart" was how outlandish everything was. Even though I didn't like it I don't really blame the movie...it achieved exactly what it was going for, I just didn't like it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 23, 2010, 12:46:09 AM
Ha yeah i guess i don't like the office but in everything else i like him
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 23, 2010, 01:20:08 AM
Ha yeah i guess i don't like the office but in everything else i like him

Yeah, the thing with him is that, if its comedy, he can do it. Touching comedy, goofy comedy, annoying comedy... You name it and he can do it. That's why his stuff is really hit or miss with me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 23, 2010, 01:34:36 PM
... I approve of her as Bianca...as long as they work digital magic on her tattoos.

I've seen almost all of her movies and never noticed any of the tats. I am sure make-up over the tats would be suffice to cover them up.

But holy crap I didn't realize she really had so many tattoos.

http://www.freetattoodesigns.org/angelina-jolie-tattoos.html
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 23, 2010, 03:03:08 PM
This has probably been suggested before but I'm not scrolling through a 100+ pages.
Sam Elliot for Ebenezer.  That aged granite voice is wonderful.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 23, 2010, 03:06:04 PM
Yeah, he was suggested.

I like him but I have at least 3 choices I like better.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 23, 2010, 04:57:39 PM
I like Sam Elliot.  Not for Eb.

And a JimB-JamesM combo for Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 23, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
I like Sam Elliot.  Not for Eb.

And a JimB-JamesM combo for Bob.

I have to say, James Marsters as Bob would be awesome! Even though I am a strong proponant for James as Harry I would also like to see him do Bob. I think it would be kind of cool...like Treebeard in LOTR being voiced by the same actor as Gimli the Dwarf. And Marsters, given his preternatural control over voice and accent, would be amazing. Besides the fact that I really think he's just have fun with it, which we be absolutely necessary for success as Bob. (I haven't heard Marster on the audio books but my sister is planning to purchase them so I'll be sure to listen for Marsters' Bob voice.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 24, 2010, 01:29:54 AM
I was thinking Tom Hanks
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 24, 2010, 02:30:47 AM
Tom Hanks for Bob?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 24, 2010, 02:34:24 AM
Yes of course  ;D  :o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 24, 2010, 02:38:10 AM
Sorry, we'd been discussing Eb there for awhile so got a bit confused.
Can Hanks do a very lecherous voice?  Bob's got to have that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 24, 2010, 02:39:20 AM
Yeah he can
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tsavo on September 24, 2010, 11:57:31 AM
Honestly, I dont think any of those options are good for Harry, I keep my eyes open, but so far I keep finding myself as the closest thing to harry, though I might be a littel short (And no, Im not trying to me self indulgent, but even BEFORE I started reading the dresden files I was usually seen walking around town with semi long hair, a feather duster, and carrying a staff of some sort, not to mention Im thin)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on September 24, 2010, 12:54:47 PM
Honestly, I dont think any of those options are good for Harry, I keep my eyes open, but so far I keep finding myself as the closest thing to harry, though I might be a littel short (And no, Im not trying to me self indulgent, but even BEFORE I started reading the dresden files I was usually seen walking around town with semi long hair, a feather duster, and carrying a staff of some sort, not to mention Im thin)

*horks coffee up her nose*

Tsavo?  I think you mean you were seen walking around in a *leather* duster.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on September 24, 2010, 01:14:29 PM
*gigglesnort*

Now I am picturing Harry walking around carrying a feather duster as a new weapon!   :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 24, 2010, 01:18:02 PM
*horks coffee up her nose*

Tsavo?  I think you mean you were seen walking around in a *leather* duster.

NONONO! Harry needs a FEATHER duster!

:D

One of these days, we need to start a "typo casting" thread, in which characters' appearances and personalities are suddenly vastly different because of changing one letter. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on September 24, 2010, 01:20:10 PM
An enchanted feather duster to sweep away all evil.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 24, 2010, 02:41:12 PM
I like it.  Harry probably wouldn't and Murphy would NEVER let him live it down.
Morning all.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 24, 2010, 02:47:32 PM
*flails* Harry needs a huh-what now?

*snerk* *giggle*

LMAO. Ow. LOL. Ow. Ow, ow, ow.

I just love this thread. It literally makes me laugh til my sides hurt.

Morning, peeps!

Good morning to you, too, Snowleopard :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 24, 2010, 03:01:02 PM
Morning back, TbF.
Yeah, the whole concept of Harry Dresden sporting a (it has to be some frilly girl color too) feather duster is enough
to make you die laughing. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wvincagold on September 24, 2010, 05:25:52 PM
A WHHHAAATTTT! A Feather Duster? What next demon scented pledge? Goblin repeland swiffer sweeper? I know how about a magical can of Endust which disapeers zombies? ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 24, 2010, 05:32:22 PM
Morning back, TbF.
Yeah, the whole concept of Harry Dresden sporting a (it has to be some frilly girl color too) feather duster is enough
to make you die laughing. ;D ;D ;D

When I read the mistype I pictured Harry wearing a coat whose surface is layered in funny green irridecent peacock feathers. The cloak is billowing in the wind and Harry is walking down the street to meet Murphy. He's got this tough-guy look on his face because they are about to take down some big-bad. Dramatic music is playing but then Murph just bursts out laughing. (Naturaly the odd cloak is some kind of artifact to help them win.) "Green's not my color?" Harry suggests.

A WHHHAAATTTT! A Feather Duster? What next demon scented pledge? Goblin repeland swiffer sweeper? I know how about a magical can of Endust which disapeers zombies? ;D


LOL!!! Just the scent I want people to associate with my house - sulphur and bremstone.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 24, 2010, 06:28:25 PM
When I read the mistype I pictured Harry wearing a coat whose surface is layered in funny green irridecent peacock feathers. The cloak is billowing in the wind and Harry is walking down the street to meet Murphy. He's got this tough-guy look on his face because they are about to take down some big-bad. Dramatic music is playing but then Murph just bursts out laughing. (Naturaly the odd cloak is some kind of artifact to help them win.) "Green's not my color?" Harry suggests.

LOL!!! Just the scent I want people to associate with my house - sulphur and bremstone.  ;)

HE'D LOOK LIKE A PIMP! Considering how often he's surrounded by women (and Thomas) this might not be a good thing, lol. Marcone might thing Harry's trying to muscle in on the prostitution circle in Chi-town, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 24, 2010, 07:23:23 PM
HE'D LOOK LIKE A PIMP! Considering how often he's surrounded by women (and Thomas) this might not be a good thing, lol. Marcone might thing Harry's trying to muscle in on the prostitution circle in Chi-town, lol.

Lol! Henchman Thomas and call-girl Murphy...not sure who would be the more offended.  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 24, 2010, 11:50:43 PM
Murphy definately
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 24, 2010, 11:54:37 PM
Murphy definately

Maybe. I don't know, though. Thomas would be pretty miffed at being regarded as Harry's lacky. Remember, Harry may be the main character of the story but, in every one else's minds, they are the main character. So I don't think Thomas would appreciate being thought of as hired help. Then again, Murphy wouldn't exactly be happy about that, either.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 24, 2010, 11:56:24 PM
Please in this book harry is the main character and in real life i am   ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: OpticChaos on September 24, 2010, 11:59:07 PM
bang
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 24, 2010, 11:59:58 PM
dang
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 25, 2010, 12:53:49 AM
Please in this book harry is the main character and in real life i am   ;D

Lol! I see.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on September 25, 2010, 02:20:28 AM
Lol! Henchman Thomas and call-girl Murphy...not sure who would be the more offended.  :D

No, no, no.  You have it wrong.
It's Rent-boy Thomas and call-girl Murphy...still not sure who would be more offended.   8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 25, 2010, 02:50:30 AM
No, no, no.  You have it wrong.
It's Rent-boy Thomas and call-girl Murphy...still not sure who would be more offended.   8)

Lol! True. And my question is, does rent-boy refer to Thomas as a henchman or as a, um..."call-guy?" Funny thing is, he'd almost be more offended by the former.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 25, 2010, 05:18:13 AM
Lol! True. And my question is, does rent-boy refer to Thomas as a henchman or as a, um..."call-guy?" Funny thing is, he'd almost be more offended by the former.  ;)

He's a gigolo. Except hotter than Rob Schneider. Hehe. It's British slang for a male prostitute, escort, hustler (etc.), basically, hatshep :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 25, 2010, 05:20:32 AM
Are you kidding he is the Call boy along with Murphy being a Calling Girl
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 25, 2010, 05:43:25 AM
Are you kidding he is the Call boy along with Murphy being a Calling Girl

... Yeah. That's what I said. "rent-boy" means all those things. It's slang.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 25, 2010, 05:52:07 AM
oh  somebody looks stupid
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on September 25, 2010, 06:24:14 AM
Well, it's Chicago after all.  Lots and lots of republican congressmen looking for discrete 'company'.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 25, 2010, 07:15:19 AM
Call boy Thomas - Call Girl Murphy - and Pimp Dresden.
Brief pause to ROTFLMAO.
All three would be offended, and in Murphy's case probably do you serious bodily harm.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on September 25, 2010, 11:37:18 AM
I was just thinking the guy who plays "bobby" on Supernatural, he's kind of an Ebenezer type. He could maybe fill the role?
I only just started watching that show and i see many Dresden-esque things in it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 25, 2010, 12:48:59 PM
Well, it's Chicago after all.  Lots and lots of republican congressmen looking for discrete 'company'.

'Course, they wouldn't exactly get what they were looking for if they hired out Thomas OR Murphy. Or Molly for that matter, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 25, 2010, 12:49:36 PM
I was just thinking the guy who plays "bobby" on Supernatural, he's kind of an Ebenezer type. He could maybe fill the role?
I only just started watching that show and i see many Dresden-esque things in it.

I like you :)

I've been pitching Jim Beaver for Ebenezer for a while :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Enjorous on September 25, 2010, 03:23:31 PM
Now that I think about it he wouldn't be a bad choice at all.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 25, 2010, 06:04:45 PM
Now that I think about it he wouldn't be a bad choice at all.

Who? Harry as a pimp, Thomas as his ho, or Jim Beaver as Ebenezer?

Bahaha. I am a horrible, awful person. Poor Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 25, 2010, 07:28:43 PM
(http://blogs.lasvegasmagazine.com/VegasLuxeLife/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/robert-duvall-co-scott.jpg)

Put a beard on him and caption it "Dammit, Hoss..." and he IS Ebenezar.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 25, 2010, 07:29:34 PM
I like Duval for Eb.  It works.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 26, 2010, 02:34:56 AM
He's a gigolo. Except hotter than Rob Schneider. Hehe. It's British slang for a male prostitute, escort, hustler (etc.), basically, hatshep :)

I see.  :) I guess the person hiring Thomas would get the short end of that stick given that stick, though, given that he would be taking their money and then basically eating them. If he took the job at all. Unless being with Thomas is worth dying for, like a lot of people on the "who's hotter" poll seem to think it is with Mab. Then I guess they would be getting their money's worth.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 26, 2010, 03:35:50 AM
I see.  :) I guess the person hiring Thomas would get the short end of that stick given that stick, though, given that he would be taking their money and then basically eating them. If he took the job at all. Unless being with Thomas is worth dying for, like a lot of people on the "who's hotter" poll seem to think it is with Mab. Then I guess they would be getting their money's worth.  ;)

Well we already know that Thomas has no problem playing gay, given how badly he's embarrassed Harry in the past, lol. The only question is, how far is he willing to go if he's really that hungry, and there are no women in sight?

On another note:

Prentiss Benjamin for Luccio 2.0
(http://blog.nj.com/morristown_impact/2008/04/medium_medium_PrentissBen.jpg)

She's 32, but she looks fairly young, yeah?

Before you suggest someone for Luccio 1.0, remember this description of her:

(page 289, paperback edition of Dead Beat)
     "The door opened and Warden Luccio came in. She was a solid old matriarch of a woman, as tall as most men and built like someone who did plenty of physical labor. Her hair was a solid shade of iron grey, cropped into a neat, military cut."

Very short description of her physical looks, given that the next portion of the paragraph goes into what she's wearing and carrying with her.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 26, 2010, 04:01:12 AM
Well we already know that Thomas has no problem playing gay, given how badly he's embarrassed Harry in the past, lol. The only question is, how far is he willing to go if he's really that hungry, and there are no women in sight?

Yeah, him embarrassing Harry is just hilarious! I was thinking of him getting hired by women, though. We already know how he feels about guy White Courts feeding off other guys when he said of Lord Raith, sounding disgusted, "Thankfully, his tastes don't run in that direction." Thomas just plays it up to make Harry feel uncomfortable.

As for your suggestion for Luccio 2.0 (love the discriptor)  - AWESOME! Has a nice smile like the Luccio of the books but has a mature feel as well. She has my vote 100 percent.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Magnus on September 26, 2010, 01:07:32 PM
Well we already know that Thomas has no problem playing gay, given how badly he's embarrassed Harry in the past, lol. The only question is, how far is he willing to go if he's really that hungry, and there are no women in sight?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk5pcGx7AIM well the answer is at 1.27 in the video.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 26, 2010, 05:29:05 PM
How about bruce willis for kincaid
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 26, 2010, 06:00:37 PM
How about bruce willis for kincaid

I don't know. He's got the right attitude and acting ability for Kincaid but I always pictured him looking about 35, with brown hair down to his shoulderblades and kind of predatory features. I don't recall how JB describes him in the books, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 26, 2010, 09:37:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk5pcGx7AIM well the answer is at 1.27 in the video.

*falls over* LOL!

Jim Butcher is my god, just so you know. Not God, but god. Please don't smite me, Lord. I need to stay alive to read Ghost Story. And Book 14. And books 15 through the apocalypse.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 26, 2010, 09:54:04 PM
I don't know. He's got the right attitude and acting ability for Kincaid but I always pictured him looking about 35, with brown hair down to his shoulderblades and kind of predatory features. I don't recall how JB describes him in the books, though.

Page 107 of the Paperback edition of Death Masks:


      "A man stood on my doorstep. He was nearly as tall as me but looked a lot more solid, with shoulders wide enough to make the loose black jacket he wore fit tightly on his upper arms. He wore a navy blue shirt and stood so that I could see the wrinkles caused by the straps of a shoulder rig. A black ball cap reined in dark golden hair that might have fallen to his shoulders. He hadn't shaved in a few days, and had a short, white scar below his mouth that highlighted the cleft in his chin. His eyes were grey-blue and empty of any expression in a way I had seldom seen."


^^^ Harry's description of Kincaid the first time he meets him. This description actually brings to mind Josh Holloway (Sawyer from LOST, the only character I frigging knew since I never watched the show). Although I hafta say, my favorite pick for this role is Christian Kane. He's just BAD ASS.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 26, 2010, 10:29:13 PM
^^^ Harry's description of Kincaid the first time he meets him. This description actually brings to mind Josh Holloway (Sawyer from LOST, the only character I frigging knew since I never watched the show). Although I hafta say, my favorite pick for this role is Christian Kane. He's just BAD ASS.

Thanks for hunting down the description for me!  ;D I guess most of my image is pretty good except for the hair (dark blond instead of light brown.) I always picture him with a much leaner, more angular face than Christian Kane but I totally agree that the description sounds exactly like Josh Holloway. Sounds perfect, in fact. Awesome suggestion and my vote for Kincaid's casting officially goes to Holloway.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ivu on September 26, 2010, 10:44:20 PM
*falls over* LOL!

Jim Butcher is my god, just so you know. Not God, but god. Please don't smite me, Lord. I need to stay alive to read Ghost Story. And Book 14. And books 15 through the apocalypse.
And every other book he writes in between.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 26, 2010, 11:10:30 PM
And every other book he writes in between.

Preferably until the end of time.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 26, 2010, 11:52:03 PM
Yep
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 27, 2010, 02:39:12 AM
*falls over* LOL!

Jim Butcher is my god, just so you know. Not God, but god. Please don't smite me, Lord. I need to stay alive to read Ghost Story. And Book 14. And books 15 through the apocalypse.

A good way is to use the word ghod - takes it even further from the deity.  Or even use the word deity.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 27, 2010, 02:50:35 AM
A good way is to use the word ghod - takes it even further from the deity.  Or even use the word deity.

Personally, I favor "hero" because it gets the point across without any disrespect.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 27, 2010, 02:52:07 AM
Personally, I favor "hero" because it gets the point across without any disrespect.  :)

Very true.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 27, 2010, 03:16:00 AM
Idol is my favorite non religous reference
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 27, 2010, 03:22:22 AM
Idol is my favorite non religous reference

Also good.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 27, 2010, 03:26:39 AM
Teacher, master, mentor, story teller, and Quiz Masters
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 27, 2010, 03:40:47 AM
A good way is to use the word ghod - takes it even further from the deity.  Or even use the word deity.

Gracias!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on September 27, 2010, 04:16:18 AM
Idol is my favorite non religous reference

If you really think about it "idol" has a religious connection as well, if not as disrespectful as "god." Although in flippant modern usage its root meaning is has been all but removed (as is the case with "American Idol.")  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 27, 2010, 01:55:45 PM
How about bruce willis for kincaid

I thought this too at first, based on his role in The Jackel.

But then Christian Kane is younger and fitter.  Better Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 27, 2010, 02:31:25 PM
I thought this too at first, based on his role in The Jackel.

But then Christian Kane is younger and fitter.  Better Kincaid.

Plus? BAD ASS. He's completely awesome. I actually find myself looking forward to Leverage when it airs, just b/c he usually gets to hurt someone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 27, 2010, 02:46:36 PM
Plus? BAD ASS. He's completely awesome. I actually find myself looking forward to Leverage when it airs, just b/c he usually gets to hurt someone.

"Hey Sterling.  Come here, I want to rip you a new @$$hole"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on September 27, 2010, 03:34:58 PM
"Hey Sterling.  Come here, I want to rip you a new @$$hole"

Hee! (this scene coincidentally features my pick for Nicodemus, the phenomenal Mark Sheppard.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Xraygirl on October 03, 2010, 09:32:51 PM
Has anyone seen the movie the Sorcerers Apprentice?  Is not Nick Cage the one for Harry?!  That movie needs to be reworked for adults.   
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 03, 2010, 09:42:47 PM
Has anyone seen the movie the Sorcerers Apprentice?  Is not Nick Cage the one for Harry?!  That movie needs to be reworked for adults.   

Hm...I've liked Cage in a few things but I just have a hard time taking him seriously.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 03, 2010, 09:44:07 PM
TOO Wacky
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 04, 2010, 02:20:43 AM
(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2010423//300.marsters.cm.52310.jpg)

is this your harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 04, 2010, 04:05:00 AM
(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2010423//300.marsters.cm.52310.jpg)

is this your harry

Ding, ding, ding!!! And the winner is...Grey Warden!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 04, 2010, 04:06:04 AM
Sarcasm is aparently lost on Hatshep.  (JK)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 04, 2010, 04:48:38 AM
Sarcasm is aparently lost on Hatshep.  (JK)

You put up a picture of James Marsters - at this point EVERYTHING is lost on Hatshep. ;D

By the by - no and no again on Nick Cage for Harry Dresden. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 04, 2010, 12:41:54 PM
You put up a picture of James Marsters - at this point EVERYTHING is lost on Hatshep. ;D

By the by - no and no again on Nick Cage for Harry Dresden. 

Agreed, and agreed a million times.

And to be fair, most women of all ages tend to lose all faculty functions in their brains when it comes to James. In the Hawaii 5-O premiere, I started swooning as soon as I saw him and completely missed hearing anything that his character said. I had to rewind the DVR in order to hear the accent in his voice. Hee <3
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 04, 2010, 02:18:56 PM
Hey Tiny - still trying to figure out where that picture is of Marsters that my friend took at Halloween.
Sorry, but this may take awhile.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 04, 2010, 04:57:19 PM
You put up a picture of James Marsters - at this point EVERYTHING is lost on Hatshep. ;D

By the by - no and no again on Nick Cage for Harry Dresden. 

Lol! What was that? Did somebody say something? I can't seem to remember anything besides James Marsters gorgeous cheekbones.  ;D

And to be fair, most women of all ages tend to lose all faculty functions in their brains when it comes to James. In the Hawaii 5-O premiere, I started swooning as soon as I saw him and completely missed hearing anything that his character said. I had to rewind the DVR in order to hear the accent in his voice. Hee <3

So true, tiny! I had a hard time focusing on what he was saying, too. I just didn't want him to stop talking but the its like 'what was that wonderful voice saying?'  ;)

Hey Tiny - still trying to figure out where that picture is of Marsters that my friend took at Halloween.
Sorry, but this may take awhile.

We'll forgive you...as long as you find it! ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 04, 2010, 05:09:26 PM
FInd it and get it up, SL.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on October 04, 2010, 05:19:49 PM
Marsters IS Harry!  Yup, picture of James=lose focus on whatever is going on and swoon for a bit on my end!  ;D

Nic Cage not my cup o' tea.  I am not a fan of his work. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 04, 2010, 05:22:20 PM
Hey Tiny - still trying to figure out where that picture is of Marsters that my friend took at Halloween.
Sorry, but this may take awhile.

Take your time! I'm not in any hurry. James is worth waiting for :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 04, 2010, 05:29:16 PM
James is worth waiting for :)

What she said.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on October 04, 2010, 05:51:21 PM
What she said.  ;D

Thirded!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 05, 2010, 01:57:55 AM
How bout xander from buffy i like him for harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on October 05, 2010, 06:52:06 AM
ebenezar  :D
(http://www.aintitcool.com/images/prospector.jpg)
morgan   :D
(http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/_img/chars/char_17487.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrkHoax on October 05, 2010, 12:51:54 PM
ebenezar  :D
(http://www.aintitcool.com/images/prospector.jpg)
morgan   :D
(http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/_img/chars/char_17487.jpg)

I so agree with this choice!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on October 05, 2010, 02:00:06 PM
I so agree with this choice!
*ROFLMAO imagining those two playing those roles*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Linnemir on October 05, 2010, 03:51:33 PM
How bout xander from buffy i like him for harry

I like the actor, but ... Dunno. He doesn't have the snark I'd like to see ... and wow, has he gained weight since then! (Or at least the last time I saw a picture)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 05, 2010, 03:53:07 PM
I like the actor, but ... Dunno. He doesn't have the snark I'd like to see ... and wow, has he gained weight since then! (Or at least the last time I saw a picture)

Uep. He's Garcia's BF in Criminal Minds,and he's gained more than a few.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 05, 2010, 05:37:31 PM
He can lose them and he definately has the snark and goofiness in Buffy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on October 05, 2010, 07:26:14 PM
He has the snark and wit but not the "IT" that I think Harry has.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 05, 2010, 09:10:53 PM
He has the snark and wit but not the "IT" that I think Harry has.

I have to agree with Chiana. He's cool but he just doesn't feel like a leading man, which is a must, particularly for anyone in the gumshoe genre.

icecream, I LOVE your choice for Morgan!  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 06, 2010, 01:40:14 AM
I have to agree with Chiana. He's cool but he just doesn't feel like a leading man, which is a must, particularly for anyone in the gumshoe genre.

icecream, I LOVE your choice for Morgan!  ;D

I also agree with Chiana.  A leading man has to have a commanding presence whether he comes off as a loud alpha or a quiet alpha. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 06, 2010, 01:44:39 AM
What about BA Alpha
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 06, 2010, 01:46:56 AM
What about BA Alpha

BA Alpha????   Bad A**, Bad Attitude???
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 06, 2010, 01:47:36 AM
First
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 07, 2010, 03:52:40 AM
I freaking knew it. I freaking KNEW this was going to happen, and I want to kick this dude's ass. Spike's competition IS between himself and a Firefly character -- River Tam. I love River, but NO ONE WILL STOP ME FROM GETTING SPIKE TO WIN!

Tomorrow, type 2010 character competition day 3.7 into Google Search. Don't worry if it doesn't come up right away, it just means the stupid ass that created the polls hasn't posted it yet. Just keep searching, and keep coming back to it, and get everyone you know to vote for Spike. I will not have a REAL vampire get beaten in this stupid bloody competition because people are ignorant and have a grudge against him for beating a LOST character.

(Just so you know, I am posting this exact same reply to every on each of the three boards I currently am frequenting)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 07, 2010, 03:58:23 AM
you go girl
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on October 07, 2010, 01:07:41 PM
Has anyone made any suggestions on who would play Father Forthill?  He is the one character that I have never been able to picture in my mind.  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on October 07, 2010, 02:03:44 PM
Forthill ...... I got it.

(http://images.dailyfill.com/a026f715de664b6a_a506b1a7c9ba217a/o/post_image-clint-eastwood-hereafter-spl135541_001.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on October 07, 2010, 04:54:56 PM
very nice! never thought of him as forthill, perfect!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 07, 2010, 11:52:12 PM
Eastwood?  Really?

And Spike is losing.  Badly.  as in less than 1000 votes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 08, 2010, 12:08:01 AM
Eastwood?  Really?

And Spike is losing.  Badly.  as in less than 1000 votes.

Very VERY badly! We need serious regrouping efforts here. The poll just opened about two hours ago, or so, so we've still got 22 hours, but less than 300 votes for Spike is unacceptable. I pissed a LOT of people off by rallying for Spike to beat John Locke, and these idiots are looking for revenge (seriously, look at the comments under the poll. One moron comes right out and says they're voting for River in revenge.) Spike needs serious help, guys, and I'm still pissed off that Dean and Sam Winchester and Castiel got snowballed right out. Vote vote vote!!!

http://bit.ly/9vVf02
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 08, 2010, 12:10:55 AM
Happens and i thought Forthill was like 40 something
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 08, 2010, 12:16:54 AM
I can't help but notice that everyone in the comments says the voted spike, yet river's still smashing him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 08, 2010, 12:18:07 AM
A conspiracy!!! WJM we shall hunt down and beat these people who are throwing the comp
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 08, 2010, 12:18:34 AM
I can't help but notice that everyone in the comments says the voted spike, yet river's still smashing him.

That would be because of the aforementioned idiots voting against Spike for the sake of voting against him. The fans who love him are usually the only ones who bother to comment why. The big long comment near the top is mine.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 08, 2010, 01:04:40 AM
I love him because he is both pathetic and powerful at the same time
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on October 08, 2010, 04:24:06 AM
well, i dont know he has that im old but can kick your butt vibe goin on
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 08, 2010, 04:30:21 AM
Anyone named spike is awesome
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on October 08, 2010, 01:15:05 PM
I voted for Spike even though I adore River's character on Firefly!   ;D

I though Forthill was in his 40's also.   :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on October 08, 2010, 03:34:16 PM
80 is the new 40.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 08, 2010, 03:50:23 PM
Spike still losing badly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on October 08, 2010, 03:51:13 PM
Missed here.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 10, 2010, 03:56:10 AM
River beat Spike?????? What? No way! I've never cared much for River and I ADORE Spike. I'm so bitter...give me something to punch and I might be alright in a month.  :-[
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 10, 2010, 04:16:07 AM
(http://www.dailycuteness.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/kitty.jpg)

There you go
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on October 10, 2010, 04:22:11 AM
looks like someone already hit it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 10, 2010, 04:48:00 AM
Wasn't me  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on October 10, 2010, 06:45:22 AM
River beat Spike?????? What? No way! I've never cared much for River and I ADORE Spike. I'm so bitter...give me something to punch and I might be alright in a month.  :-[
Sorry, but I am more than content with these results.   8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 10, 2010, 06:02:18 PM
(http://www.dailycuteness.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/kitty.jpg)

There you go

Okay, not just anything. That poor thing looks like he's been through enough. His cute (if disfigured) face makes me a little bit less furious though, so I guess it does the job credibily.  ;)

Sorry, but I am more than content with these results.   8)

But, but, but...how?  ;) Just curious - did you like both shows? Did you ship Buffy/Angel? or Buffy/Spike? Just curious where it was a case of "love River" or "hate Spike" or something in the middle.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 10, 2010, 08:24:29 PM
looks like someone already hit it.

Poor kitty.

The one in your profile pic looks exhausted.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 10, 2010, 09:31:42 PM
Spike lost?  WTF!?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 10, 2010, 09:38:09 PM
Spike lost?  WTF!?

I don't want to talk about it. Just go vote for Captain Mal in Round 3.8.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 10, 2010, 09:42:18 PM
I don't want to talk about it. Just go vote for Captain Mal in Round 3.8.

Will do. Is it up yet?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 10, 2010, 10:03:00 PM
Will do. Is it up yet?

Yes it is.

http://www.spoilertv.com/2010/10/2010-character-competition-dexter.html
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 10, 2010, 10:13:09 PM
Yes it is.

http://www.spoilertv.com/2010/10/2010-character-competition-dexter.html

Thanks for the link - I just cast my vote for Mal. And he's winning by a landslide so far. Yay!!! And I hate "Dexter" so I couldn't be happier.
So Mal beat Cas in Round 1, huh? Both are really cool characters and very apples/oranges so not sure how I feel about that one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 10, 2010, 10:16:57 PM
I hope that Mal kicks.  His bloody.  @$$!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on October 10, 2010, 10:52:51 PM
I love Dexter but freaking LOVE MAL!!!   ;D  Mal gets my vote and is kicking bottom!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on October 11, 2010, 12:21:42 AM

But, but, but...how?  ;) Just curious - did you like both shows? Did you ship Buffy/Angel? or Buffy/Spike? Just curious where it was a case of "love River" or "hate Spike" or something in the middle.  :)
Liked both shows, but the fact that Spike was considered 'relationship material' while he was still a soulless monster is way too creepy for me.  I was always of the faction that stuck with Wheedon's original point, no soul = no capacity for love, only creepy obsession.   :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 11, 2010, 01:15:20 AM
Liked both shows, but the fact that Spike was considered 'relationship material' while he was still a soulless monster is way too creepy for me.  I was always of the faction that stuck with Wheedon's original point, no soul = no capacity for love, only creepy obsession.   :P

Okay, I have to agree with you on the whole creepy thing just a bit. I found his advances very interesting even before he had a soul but only after he got his soul back could I truly ship him with Buffy. I know that there are a lot of people who shipped Spike with Buffy regardless of soul status, but he's a cool enough character and that I can ignore the somewhat creepy views of the masses. It's not Spike's fault, after all...and he ended the show - both shows - with his soul so any creepiness has been vindicated for me. I see your point but I can't help loving his character anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 11, 2010, 05:57:11 PM
Okay, so I've been thinking about my post and I need to make a revision to what I said. I think whether its creepy or not depends on whether you are an inductive reasoner (starting small and working out to a bigger conclusion) or a deductive reasoner (starting with the big picture and working your way down to the conclusion.) Deductive reasoning says, "Spike has no soul, therefore he cannot be in love," while inductive reasoning looks at some of Spike's behavior in the show and says, "He is clearly in love, therefore somehow, in some way, he must have some spark of something like a soul that allows him to feel." Granted, he is clearly stated not to have a soul yet he also, at times, clearly displays symptoms of love, not just "creepy obsession." Because of that contradition I think either way is a "realistic" view, thus making the "he loves her" view not always creepy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 12, 2010, 02:40:25 AM
Just saw a trailer for the new Denzel Washington film about the runaway train.
Chris Pine is the co-star - looks a young version of Paul Blackthorne.  Him for Harry D.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 12, 2010, 03:01:07 AM
Okay, so I've been thinking about my post and I need to make a revision to what I said. I think whether its creepy or not depends on whether you are an inductive reasoner (starting small and working out to a bigger conclusion) or a deductive reasoner (starting with the big picture and working your way down to the conclusion.) Deductive reasoning says, "Spike has no soul, therefore he cannot be in love," while inductive reasoning looks at some of Spike's behavior in the show and says, "He is clearly in love, therefore somehow, in some way, he must have some spark of something like a soul that allows him to feel." Granted, he is clearly stated not to have a soul yet he also, at times, clearly displays symptoms of love, not just "creepy obsession." Because of that contradition I think either way is a "realistic" view, thus making the "he loves her" view not always creepy.

If it helps, think of the reasoning behind the situation with his mother that we discovered in Season 7. Anne Pratt was ill from TB, then known as consumption. In the 1880s, there was no known cure (there's still not, but strides have been made to temper the illness), so everyone that the then-known William Pratt spoke to told him that his mother was dying. Think about that for a minute -- at the age of 26 or 27 (everyone's still not entirely sure), William was watching his mother die. Slowly. Then, doo-doo-doo, along comes mad-hat Drusilla, and her crazy visions, and her crazy(ER) incesty sires, Darla and Angel(us). Bonk! Angel(us) doesn't watch where he's going and shoves aside a heart-broken, weepy William, who just had his heart ripped out by a bitch of a woman who "doesn't know his worth." Drusilla follows, and after a creepy moment in some stables where Dru talks about burning fishies, and inappropriately fondles Very!Shy!Victorian!William, she tells him that she sees him, who he really is, what he can be -- that he's effulgent. Drusilla tells him that everything he has ever wanted would all be in his hands, if he just tells her yes. William doesn't know WTF she's talking about -- he's just had his heart broken, and then along comes this beautiful but completely cray-cray chick, and she's telling him, in her own weird, roundabout way, that she wants him. William's sick of having his heart trampled. He wants to be wanted, needs to be needed -- in short, he wants what every good man wants: a woman who loves him for just being him. His mother loves him, but she's his mother, it's not the same. He wants to be in love and have a family, and show the world that he can be a good man.

Things don't work out that way. Instead of the Victorian Dream, he gets a vampire as a sire/lover. (There's still some speculation about who actually is Spike's real sire. There's been some theories that Drusilla actually drained him, but Angel(us) came upon them, saw that Dru screwed it up, listened to her bitch and moan, then finally fed his own blood to William just to shut her up.) He's now a turned fledgling, barely days old, when he takes Drusilla back to his house. He's feeling strength he's never felt before -- he's the Six Million Dollar Man -- or a Kanye West song. Either way, he's better than he's ever been, and the inkling of a thought occurs to him -- if he feels this good, and there was nothing wrong with him before, what could stop him from making Anne feel the same way? Poor Anne, who loves him, and who's dying, and who deserves to live more than anyone else he's ever known -- he can turn her. More importantly, he can SAVE her. He can save the one person who has always been there for him, no matter what.

He turns Anne. But he's still only a few days old, and he's not like the other vampires in his "family." He doesn't seem to feel the same pressure of "evil-ness" that the rest of them do. He doesn't understand that the vampiric demon affects everyone differently. Drusilla as a human was innocent -- she was going to be a nun and then was driven insane right before she was turned. The demon took over any mental faculties she might have possessed and made her an out-of-control lunatic. But William... William didn't seem any different. He hasn't really changed. He just feels free. So he thinks the way he feels will be the same way Anne feels. And unfortunately for him, the demon wearing his mother's face takes that opportunity to shatter his heart -- it breaks him, and he does the only thing he can think of -- he dusts her. He would rather have his beloved mother be dust on the ground than to unleash the monster she's become onto the populace. And the memory of what he did to her haunts him to the point that when he finally gains a soul, the big bad of the year can use that memory to manipulate him, and he's none the wiser because of his guilt.

So tell me again that soulless Spike can't feel. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 12, 2010, 03:12:13 AM
On another note, I still maintain that if we start off with a young dude for Harry, make it Lucas Bryant. Those freaking pictures of him and Emily for Haven -- cripes, it's like looking directly at Harry and Karrin O.O

Matt Lanter for Will (Billy) Borden, Malin Åkerman for Sigrun Gard (or Lasciel, or hell, Lily the Summer Lady. I'm not picky, and Malin is freaking hot.), Shaun Toub for the Gatekeeper, CCH Pounder for Martha Liberty, Wes Studii for Injun Joe, SO MUCH CHRISTOPHER LEE for the Merlin, and Jim Beaver as Ebenezer. I STILL say Mark Sheppard for Nicodemus. He gives me chills :)

Also, it's a horrible role, but I can see Jason Statham as Lloyd Slate. *hides* Please don't hurt me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 03:27:31 AM
Misha Collins for Nicodemous
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 12, 2010, 03:31:31 AM
So tell me again that soulless Spike can't feel. :)

Excellent argument! (Poor Spike.) I think the crux of the issue lies in the inconsistency of the way he is written, making you go "well, duh...of course he feels" one minute and then be like "wow, that's creepy" the next. Take episode 5.18 "Intervention" for example. The Buffy-bot is obviously way creepy and, in my opinion, very out of character for the character I consider to be the "real" Spike. But in the very same episode he withstands torture and quite possible death for the sake of protecting Buffy and the people that she cares about, obviously an act of love ("greater love hath no man...".) Whether you consider his relationship as creepy or not overall depends simply on which actions you consider to be the "real" him, (since I feel that both sets of actions cannot truly come from the same person.) Although certain sets of episodes make me lean in the other direction, I feel that ultimately, because his feeling actions and behaviors far outway his creepy actions then I, like you, consider the feeling Spike the "real" Spike. (And thanks for that post! You've helped me sort out some confusion I've struggled with for years about my views on his pre-soul character.)  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 12, 2010, 03:37:02 AM
I love Chris Pine but he seems too short to me for the role of Harry. I know he's really 6'1'', not exactly midget, but he doesn't give the right impression of wiry height.

As for Mish as ol' Nic...maybe. He might be a little too young for the role though...or too young looking, anyway. Not sure his actual age. Hi demenor is perfect, though.

*prepares to dodge tomatoes if I continue being such a nay-sayer*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 03:40:10 AM
*picks more aerodynamic tomatoes*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 12, 2010, 04:40:00 AM
I love Chris Pine but he seems too short to me for the role of Harry. I know he's really 6'1'', not exactly midget, but he doesn't give the right impression of wiry height.

As for Mish as ol' Nic...maybe. He might be a little too young for the role though...or too young looking, anyway. Not sure his actual age. Hi demenor is perfect, though.

*prepares to dodge tomatoes if I continue being such a nay-sayer*

Well.... Misha as Nic might work. Before he knew that Castiel was an angel, the people auditioning him told Misha to portray Castiel as a demon.

I don't remember quite how it went, but I'm pretty sure he ended up being glad he was playing an angel, lol.

MARK SHEPPARD, darn it all.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 12, 2010, 04:41:05 AM
(And thanks for that post! You've helped me sort out some confusion I've struggled with for years about my views on his pre-soul character.)  :)

Thank you, thank you, and you're welcome, lol. I'll email you the rest of my thoughts if you like. We're kinda going overboard on the OT posts on this board, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 04:42:07 AM
Who cares about OT posts , not me
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on October 12, 2010, 06:06:52 AM
So tell me again that soulless Spike can't feel. :)
Not what I said, original premise of the show was that vampires, having no soul's, can't feel love.  Anything they did with Spike after that, before he was ensouled, was pure fan-wanking.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 12:23:31 PM
Not that spike isn't awesome but what is wanking?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 12, 2010, 12:34:09 PM
Not that spike isn't awesome but what is wanking?

Wanking (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wanking) is something completely different than the term MAW used, which is fanwanking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_(fiction)#Dealing_with_errors). Don't get them confused, lol, it might be embarrassing in the long run :)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 02:00:02 PM
I see that is shouldn't just cut words apart.   :-[
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 12, 2010, 02:49:26 PM
I see that is shouldn't just cut words apart.   :-[

'Splainy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 05:37:51 PM
Me i shouldn't just cut words apart embarassign hijinks ensue
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 12, 2010, 06:41:16 PM
I'll email you the rest of my thoughts if you like. We're kinda going overboard on the OT posts on this board, lol.

Thanks, I'd appreciate that!  :)

*picks more aerodynamic tomatoes*

*bones up on physics as it pertains to spherical objects in flight*

Not what I said, original premise of the show was that vampires, having no soul's, can't feel love.  Anything they did with Spike after that, before he was ensouled, was pure fan-wanking.

I guess should have used the word "love" a little more in my explanation but I still think it applies. Spike's character was written inconsistently so the way he was portrayed at different times was mutually exclusive of other attitudes and behaviors. And other claims made by the show. The show said that vampires couldn't feel love but then they proved themselves wrong by showing obvious displays of genuine love in Spike. Yet at other times they strenghthened their argument by playing up his affects as creepy and misguided. Not to fault the show...what they did was very effictive in keeping interest and investment in the ship alive. But I still maintain that it was artistic "cheating" of sorts, if that makes any sense.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 12, 2010, 07:52:46 PM
Me i shouldn't just cut words apart embarassign hijinks ensue

bahaha
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 12, 2010, 07:55:51 PM
Anyone else notice how much James Marsters looks like James Dean? Personally, I think Marsters is actually better looking (which is saying something) but if you look at their features they really do resemble each other.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 12, 2010, 08:04:45 PM
Anyone else notice how much James Marsters looks like James Dean? Personally, I think Marsters is actually better looking (which is saying something) but if you look at their features they really do resemble each other.

(http://www.tvscoop.tv/rex_718728s.jpg) (http://www.meredy.com/dean2.jpg)

Okay, that's actually kind of frightening.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 12, 2010, 08:10:49 PM
Glad I'm not the only one.  ;) I will admit James Dean looks a little like James Franco as well, who is actually cast to play him in a movie if I'm not mistaken. Whatever features of Marsters that don't look exactly like James Dean are covered by James Franco. (What is it about all these boys names "James...?")  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 09:06:28 PM
James Dean didn't die he became marsters
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 12, 2010, 09:24:14 PM
James Dean didn't die he became marsters

I guess you agree too, then.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 09:33:37 PM
Well duh read your history books
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 12, 2010, 09:52:26 PM
Well duh read your history books

Lol!  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 10:00:09 PM
*bows*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 12, 2010, 10:18:57 PM
Glad I'm not the only one.  ;) I will admit James Dean looks a little like James Franco as well, who is actually cast to play him in a movie if I'm not mistaken. Whatever features of Marsters that don't look exactly like James Dean are covered by James Franco. (What is it about all these boys names "James...?")  ;D

If I ever have children, that's going to be my son's name. One of them, anyway. James was my favorite male name before I even knew about James Marsters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 10:25:35 PM
I prefer the name Sanya now
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 12, 2010, 10:43:34 PM
I prefer the name Sanya now

I don't want my boys having girly names :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 12, 2010, 10:51:41 PM
If I ever have children, that's going to be my son's name. One of them, anyway. James was my favorite male name before I even knew about James Marsters.

James really is a great name. It has so many cool connotations but it really gives a kid the chance to make it the name his own. It's one of the few "most likely so succeed" type names that don't scream boring. Plus, James just seems like such a good looking name to me. (And I thought that before James Marsters as well.)  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 11:06:26 PM
I don't want my boys having girly names :P


A real man can live with a girley name. Besides it was better than yoda
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 12, 2010, 11:10:20 PM
A real man can live with a girley name.

I guess you're of the "Boy Named Sue" persuation.  ;)

Besides it was better than yoda

I'll give you that. How about Jor-El (since Kal-El's already taken) or Spock?  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 12, 2010, 11:11:48 PM
Pilot Inspektor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 11:13:39 PM
Nah i have a very manly name (Grey Warden) 

How about Nicodemous
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 12, 2010, 11:21:23 PM
Nah i have a very manly name (Grey Warden) 

How about Nicodemous

Ohh, good! You can even call him "Nic" when he's a kid. It can be his *snickers at atrocious pun* nickname. Hehe...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 11:22:38 PM
*takes throwing knife out and throws at hatshep*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 12, 2010, 11:30:09 PM
*takes throwing knife out and throws at hatshep*

*ducks, using same skills she used to avoid flying tomatoes*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 11:31:02 PM
*throws tomatoes too*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 12, 2010, 11:39:23 PM
*throws tomatoes too*

*ducks tomatoes, picks up tomato goo, and chases Grey Warden* Suprised? Hehe...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 12, 2010, 11:43:12 PM
*Jumps over trip wire* *leads hatshep2 down hallway*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 13, 2010, 12:34:16 AM
*Jumps over trip wire* *leads hatshep2 down hallway*

*hatshep2 gives chase...very, very cautiously*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 13, 2010, 02:12:21 AM
*passes poster of dresden files with Ryan Renolds as harry*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 13, 2010, 02:43:18 AM
*passes poster of dresden files with Ryan Renolds as harry*

Lol! You've got me...I lose your trail as I replace it with a poster of James Marsters as Harry. Then I just stare at the poster for a while...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 13, 2010, 02:46:01 AM
I knew my ploy would work *sneaks up on hatshep2 and then stares at a picture of Spike* whatttt.........
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 13, 2010, 03:04:13 AM
I knew my ploy would work *sneaks up on hatshep2 and then stares at a picture of Spike* whatttt.........

I can be tomatoed happily, now.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 13, 2010, 03:25:28 AM
*can't throw tomato looking at Spike*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 13, 2010, 03:37:38 AM
*can't throw tomato looking at Spike*

Good! Now we can both just stare at Spike in perfect harmony...  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 13, 2010, 03:40:31 AM
I wish i had his hair.......
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 13, 2010, 03:51:55 AM
I wish i had his hair.......

Just try blond hair dye and two packets of sweet and low.  ;) His hair is awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 13, 2010, 04:01:48 AM
Yep i could get all the fan chicks
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 13, 2010, 04:06:34 AM
Yep i could get all the fan chicks

And investing in a black leather duster does double duty in the character outfits department. When your blond hair grows out you can always go for the Harry Dresden look, which shouldn't take us much effort. All you have to do is role out of bed, throw on a pair of pants and and an old tee-shirt, (if you're lucky,) and grab your jacket on the way out. No geling of hair to worry about either...you don't even have to comb it.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 13, 2010, 04:07:56 AM
I'm tall i could grow out my hair. I cast myself as Harry Dresden and Demand to be added to the pole
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 13, 2010, 03:46:28 PM
Besides it was better than yoda

My cousin named his son Yoda.  Middle name, but still.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 13, 2010, 09:01:59 PM
I'm tall i could grow out my hair. I cast myself as Harry Dresden and Demand to be added to the pole

If only you'd submitted yourself as an option at the beginning of the poll.  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 13, 2010, 10:23:00 PM
*sigh* i making a new pole with only me and my evil twin on it
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 13, 2010, 10:47:36 PM
*sigh* i making a new pole with only me and my evil twin on it

You might be in trouble...after all, on the "Angel or Spike?" poll, Spike is winning 23 to 10, proving that a lot of women prefer the bad boy.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 13, 2010, 11:12:11 PM
*whisper* i am my evil twin
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 13, 2010, 11:19:18 PM
*whisper* i am my evil twin

*whispers* Oh, okay. You should have no trouble winning, then. But you have to buy my silence or I'll tell the whole world that the evil one is posting on the good one's account. Hey, wait a minute...its been your account all along, hasn't it?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 13, 2010, 11:27:45 PM
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *pulls out silencer* *shoots hatshep2* *Finds account password and deletes all the last posts*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 13, 2010, 11:45:06 PM
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *pulls out silencer* *shoots hatshep2* *Finds account password and deletes all the last posts*

Hahaha...I have it all backed up on a separate drive, which I have ready to send to a bunch of important people in the event of my death. I may be gone but you're secret is out! Three cheers for pyric victories!  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 13, 2010, 11:46:31 PM
Thanks Hatshep2 good twin back
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 14, 2010, 12:09:42 AM
The point of this topic has disappeared into oblivion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 14, 2010, 12:32:16 AM
There was a point?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 14, 2010, 12:34:02 AM
The point of this topic has disappeared into oblivion.

I'll concede you that point. Believe it or not, it all started with a tomato.  ;)

And back to the official topic of this thread...JAMES MARSTERS AS HARRY!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 14, 2010, 12:52:57 AM
Me as harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 14, 2010, 01:40:50 AM
Me as harry

Ah, my bad.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 14, 2010, 02:04:30 AM
Darn right go out on halloween as the same thing every year, me
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 14, 2010, 02:08:14 AM
Darn right go out on halloween as the same thing every year, me

My question is: is that suitably scary?  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 14, 2010, 02:22:45 AM
Darn right I go out on halloween as the same thing every year, me
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 14, 2010, 02:41:01 AM
Okay, question answered. Scary with a capital S.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 14, 2010, 02:43:49 AM
*blinks*

Um. Okaaaaaay.

I will attempt again to restart the topic of the thread with my casting calls. Again.

Younger Harry - Lucas Bryant (http://www.poptower.com/pic-21371/lucas-bryant.jpg?w=600&h=600)
Thomas - Matt Bomer (http://www.akawilliam.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/matt-bomer.jpg) (that's the image that convinced me to watch White Collar. This is the image that solidified it for me: B&W Matt Picture (http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:QLCOZ-IhaudHEM:http://i32.tinypic.com/2wnb86e.jpg&t=1))
Billy Borden - Matt Lanter (http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/matt-lanter-photo.jpg) (or Robbie Amell (http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SIfPK6tSq3U/SYIfY3hAvaI/AAAAAAAABgo/GwesBMkRVmc/s640/robbie%20amell%202.jpg), who plays Fred Jones in the Scooby Doo reboots on Cartoon Network)
Malin Åkerman (http://aktoreczki.blox.pl/resource/Malin_Akerman_1.jpg) for either Amazon Gard, Lasciel, or Lily the Summer Lady
Shaun Toub (http://images.filmmagic.com/images/tnm/9182379.jpg?Width=147&Height=170) for the Gatekeeper
CCH Pounder (http://blog.newsarama.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10087/cchpounder.jpg) for Martha Liberty (by the way, do you know how hard it was finding a picture of this woman where she is NOT smiling? ... as I don't imagine that Martha Liberty smiles often.)
Wes Studii (http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r116/JohnnyPsycho/WesStudi.jpg) for Injun Joe
Christopher Lee (http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/graphics/sarumaninwoods.jpg) for the Merlin (just imagine a silver circlet around his head and a white staff instead of the evil black one.)
Jim Beaver (http://static.tvfanatic.com/files/jim-beaver-photo.jpg) as Ebenezer (need I say more?)
Mark Sheppard (http://www.thescifiworld.net/img/interviews/mark_sheppard_04.jpg) for Nicodemus
Jason Statham (http://www.seenonrealestate.com/wp-content/gallery/61/actor-jason-statham-pays-10625m-for-3355-square-foot-house-malibu-colony-ca.jpg) as Lloyd Slate :X

Anyone else notice that I still don't have a damn casting for Karrin or Molly? Yeeettt, I know exactly who I want for the lesser characters... ???
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 14, 2010, 02:44:50 AM
I will unleash unimaginable torments on you
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 14, 2010, 02:53:57 AM
I will unleash unimaginable torments on you

I've been through worse.  ;D

Younger Harry - Lucas Bryant (http://www.poptower.com/pic-21371/lucas-bryant.jpg?w=600&h=600)
Thomas - Matt Bomer (http://www.akawilliam.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/matt-bomer.jpg) (that's the image that convinced me to watch White Collar. This is the image that solidified it for me: B&W Matt Picture (http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:QLCOZ-IhaudHEM:http://i32.tinypic.com/2wnb86e.jpg&t=1))
Billy Borden - Matt Lanter (http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/matt-lanter-photo.jpg) (or Robbie Amell (http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SIfPK6tSq3U/SYIfY3hAvaI/AAAAAAAABgo/GwesBMkRVmc/s640/robbie%20amell%202.jpg), who plays Fred Jones in the Scooby Doo reboots on Cartoon Network)
Malin Åkerman (http://aktoreczki.blox.pl/resource/Malin_Akerman_1.jpg) for either Amazon Gard, Lasciel, or Lily the Summer Lady
Shaun Toub (http://images.filmmagic.com/images/tnm/9182379.jpg?Width=147&Height=170) for the Gatekeeper
CCH Pounder (http://blog.newsarama.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10087/cchpounder.jpg) for Martha Liberty (by the way, do you know how hard it was finding a picture of this woman where she is NOT smiling? ... as I don't imagine that Martha Liberty smiles often.)
Wes Studii (http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r116/JohnnyPsycho/WesStudi.jpg) for Injun Joe
Christopher Lee (http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/graphics/sarumaninwoods.jpg) for the Merlin (just imagine a silver circlet around his head and a white staff instead of the evil black one.)
Jim Beaver (http://static.tvfanatic.com/files/jim-beaver-photo.jpg) as Ebenezer (need I say more?)
Mark Sheppard (http://www.thescifiworld.net/img/interviews/mark_sheppard_04.jpg) for Nicodemus
Jason Statham (http://www.seenonrealestate.com/wp-content/gallery/61/actor-jason-statham-pays-10625m-for-3355-square-foot-house-malibu-colony-ca.jpg) as Lloyd Slate :X

AWESOME CASTING!!! Only ones I don't approve are the casting of Loyd Slate (who doesn't look young and rough but kind of sexy like I always imagine,) Martha Liberty (I always picture her a little younger and good looking in an elegant 40-50 year old wise woman way,) and casting for Harry (since, although I would be far from bitter about your casting, I prefer James Marsters.) Casting for Billy (either one) is spot on and I love, love, love Mark Sheppard as Nic!!! I have had the hardest time finding the right guy for him and that actor is one of those I just love to hate with a passion. The Gatekeeper's casting is especially nice, too. I don't know I've ever really though about who should play him but this guy is totally it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 14, 2010, 02:55:21 AM
I like Jim Beaver for EB
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on October 15, 2010, 02:42:46 AM
*bobs and weaves through the multitude of flying sharp and/or rotten projectiles* Sheesh, you got some kind of weird, tomato-based Plants vs. Zombies knockoff going on here or what? ;P

Anybody toss Zach "Chuck" Levi into the mix for Harry yet? Seems like a natural for the role. Tall, rangy, doofus, somewhat on the dorky side but dark and charming enough to make it loveable, somewhat socially awkward, but with the ability to snark his way through any situation, broods well, AND he's able to pull off serious and action to boot.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 15, 2010, 02:44:42 AM
Too baby faced for my tastes, harry is rugged
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on October 15, 2010, 02:46:55 AM
(http://zachary-levi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Zachary-Levi-geeky-sexy.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 15, 2010, 02:49:21 AM
and in this corner dead president number 48
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on October 15, 2010, 02:58:06 AM
*shuffles back off to his own corner like the sad yeti in Ringo Starr's "Caveman"*

 :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 15, 2010, 03:00:54 AM
Just saying he looks a bit like a politition
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 15, 2010, 03:04:09 AM
*bobs and weaves through the multitude of flying sharp and/or rotten projectiles* Sheesh, you got some kind of weird, tomato-based Plants vs. Zombies knockoff going on here or what? ;P

Anybody toss Zach "Chuck" Levi into the mix for Harry yet? Seems like a natural for the role. Tall, rangy, doofus, somewhat on the dorky side but dark and charming enough to make it loveable, somewhat socially awkward, but with the ability to snark his way through any situation, broods well, AND he's able to pull off serious and action to boot.

I guess we did go through a little phase of veggie obsession there, didn't we?  :D

I really like Zach (and the show "Chuck" is just beyond awesome!!!) but I'm not sure he matches for the sharp features of Harry. Speaking of casting choice for Harry, if you're interested in seeing who else we think should be in the running feel free to check out the "who should play Harry" poll (the updated version) at http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,21170.0.html (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,21170.0.html). I'm afraid Zach didn't make the list when I compiled it about a month ago but feel free to vote if you wanna.  :)

Welcome to the board, btw!!!  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 15, 2010, 03:04:57 AM
Just saying he looks a bit like a politition

What?!? Our beloved Chuck doesn't look like a polititican. Don't make me start another veggie war...  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 15, 2010, 03:06:59 AM
(http://zachary-levi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Zachary-Levi-geeky-sexy.jpg)

^Politition

*throws rotten fruit (tomato)*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on October 15, 2010, 03:08:03 AM
Harry for Mayor?

"Democrat? Republican?" *sneers* "I'm the one with the blasting rod."

He'd get my vote :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on October 15, 2010, 03:20:52 AM
Thanks for the welcome :)

My vote went for Jared Padawhatsis, from Supernatural. Mainly because I thought he looked like the closest fit, visually. And in theory we'd have to start with a younger actor, otherwise I might've been tempted to go Olyphant... though I admit I wouldn't have thought of him without seeing him listed there. As far as Jared goes, I've never seen Supernatural so no idea what his acting's like, but I've heard great things about the show this past year so I assume he's up to snuff.

As far as Harry's features, in my mind at least, it's more his attitude, gumption and, world weariness that give him his rough looks (well that, and being a bit of a slob heh), and less any kind of Marlowesque chin-chiseling. Peter Parkerish, as I think I've seen Jim mention a few times elsewhere. Hence, Chuck heh. But I admit, I'd have to see Levi pull off the character in an audition before I was completely sold. I've only recently gotten into Chuck, and haven't seen him pull off any Harry-level badassery yet, so he'd have to convince me.

And if any of this were to actually happen, there's the fact that Levi's looking to break into movies in recurring, high profile roles as evidenced by his being in the Superman running recently. That, and he'd bring a hefty cult-following into our own cult hehe :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 15, 2010, 04:08:50 PM
Christian Kane for Kincaid
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 15, 2010, 04:13:28 PM
Harry for Mayor?

"Democrat? Republican?" *sneers* "I'm the one with the blasting rod."

He'd get my vote :)

LMFAO YESSSS!!!! Harry for Mayor FTW!

Actually, I'll do you one better. Harry for GOVERNOR. We've got the governor election coming up in November, and both of the candidates sucks ass. Send him to the Ohio Congress and then he can personally deal with the crap coming out of the Cleveland Hellmouth. He will completely own it, and then this state might actually suck less.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 15, 2010, 04:17:35 PM
You think that's  bad?  Mr President called the Mayor of Milwaukee and told him he was running for governor, and despite his best efforts he made it to the  final ticket.  His Republican opposite has no agenda but to win via smear campaign.  May both of them rot in Suburban Purgatory.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 15, 2010, 04:29:15 PM
Christian Kane for Kincaid

I want to retweet this. Seriously.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 15, 2010, 04:47:10 PM
^Politition

*throws rotten fruit (tomato)*

*throws nuclear missile and saves self and others extraneous pages of tomato wars*

Harry for Mayor?

"Democrat? Republican?" *sneers* "I'm the one with the blasting rod."

He'd get my vote :)

Hehe...Harry may hate politics but the way Harry would do it, it just wouldn't be politics anymore. And that could only be a good thing.

Christian Kane for Kincaid

Has the right look except I'm not sure he looks sharp enough to play Kincaid. The hair is great, though.

Thanks for the welcome :)

My vote went for Jared Padawhatsis, from Supernatural. Mainly because I thought he looked like the closest fit, visually. And in theory we'd have to start with a younger actor.

Good pick! Although I've since converted to James Marsters, he was my initial pick. He is indeed great in Supernatural. His brother Dean (played by Jensen Ackles) actually has more of the Harry attitude in the show but I believe in Jared's acting enough to think he could pull it off. Plus, he has some pretty cool badass moments in Supernatural anyway. And the youth is certainly a plus since I definately think they should start the movies were JB started the books.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 15, 2010, 04:48:47 PM
Has the right look except I'm not sure he looks sharp enough to play Kincaid. The hair is great, though.


As Elliot, Lindsey 1.0, or Lindsey 2.0?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 15, 2010, 05:49:18 PM
As Elliot, Lindsey 1.0, or Lindsey 2.0?

Not sure. I've never actually seen him in anything so I look up pics and clips and I don't know. The long hair he had in a bunch of those pics, though, is very true to my image of Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 15, 2010, 06:34:56 PM
LMFAO YESSSS!!!! Harry for Mayor FTW!

Actually, I'll do you one better. Harry for GOVERNOR. We've got the governor election coming up in November, and both of the candidates sucks ass. Send him to the Ohio Congress and then he can personally deal with the crap coming out of the Cleveland Hellmouth. He will completely own it, and then this state might actually suck less.

He lives in Chicago he can be our Governor. *pulls out warden sword*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Paynesgrey on October 15, 2010, 08:05:49 PM
I know it's fun, but please wave off from any real world political commentary.  Even the local stuff.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on October 15, 2010, 08:38:23 PM
I know it's fun, but please wave off from any real world political commentary.  Even the local stuff.

The way Fox News does.  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 15, 2010, 09:29:34 PM
Not sure. I've never actually seen him in anything so I look up pics and clips and I don't know. The long hair he had in a bunch of those pics, though, is very true to my image of Kincaid.

If it's really long, past his shoulder, then that's CK as Eliot on Leverage. Awesome show, and he's completely B.A. on it. If his hair was slightly shorter, then that was Lindsey 2.0 from Season 5 of Angel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 15, 2010, 09:30:59 PM
I know it's fun, but please wave off from any real world political commentary.  Even the local stuff.

Yessuh! :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 15, 2010, 10:20:28 PM
If it's really long, past his shoulder, then that's CK as Eliot on Leverage. Awesome show, and he's completely B.A. on it. If his hair was slightly shorter, then that was Lindsey 2.0 from Season 5 of Angel.

Okay, it would be Lindsey 2.0, then. (I've really got to get back to watching Angel...but as it is I can't seem to drag myself away from homework and fanfics.)  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 15, 2010, 10:22:26 PM
The way Fox News does.  :P

That qualifies as real-world political commentary. And that's a big NO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 16, 2010, 12:20:08 AM
 
I know it's fun, but please wave off from any real world political commentary.  Even the local stuff.

If you're talking about me i was jokingly saying harry Dresden could be Governor of Illinois
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 16, 2010, 02:11:14 AM
Okay, it would be Lindsey 2.0, then. (I've really got to get back to watching Angel...but as it is I can't seem to drag myself away from homework and fanfics.)  ;)

I am so proud of you! *weeps*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 16, 2010, 02:26:08 AM
I am so proud of you! *weeps*

Lol!  ;D (Update: I'm on ch. 52 and loving it! The characters are written so well, the story is so well crafted, and she really captures the voices of her two narrators. And I imagine Spike would be really hard to do but she writes him brilliantly.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 16, 2010, 02:43:42 AM
What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 16, 2010, 03:02:52 AM
What are you talking about?

A great Buffy/Spike fanfic that tiny[but]fierce recommended called "West of the Moon, East of the Sun." http://dark-solace.org/elysian/viewuser.php?uid=5799 (http://dark-solace.org/elysian/viewuser.php?uid=5799) if you're interested. (You have to make an account to read it because they make you verify your age but the account opening is free and very painless.) Its very well written and not just about writting about Spike and Buffy hooking up. The character voices are a perfect fit with how they are in the show and it has great pacing and a very well-constructed story. And most imporantly the author actually writes them in character. Anyway, I would highly recommend it if you like fanfics.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on October 16, 2010, 09:11:52 PM
Nicodemus ;D
(http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lion-king-scar_l.jpg)
murphy
(http://costumescenter.com/images/mulan_costume1.jpg)
Ivy
(http://www.wtfcostumes.com/costumes/alice2m.jpg)

Lol - it's a disney day.
Note:Mulan is not a disney princess!

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 16, 2010, 09:18:17 PM

Note:Mulan is not a disney princess!



Not in the traditional sense, anyhow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 17, 2010, 04:05:09 AM
Not in the traditional sense, anyhow.

What of course she is, not in the literal sense but in the figure head, UK as it is now kind of way.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Slick Jimmy on October 18, 2010, 07:54:24 AM
Kevin Durand for Chicago's only Private Eye Wizard, the inimitable Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden.

At 6'6", he's a bit of a behemoth, but Harry's bangin' his head on the top of normal door frames at 6'8", so whatever, and Durand's done a bit of action, so that's a plus. He was Little John in the most recent Robin Hood, and the archangel Gabriel in Legion. He has a fairly commanding presence on screen, and has done a memorable role with dark comedic edge in the movie Smokin' Aces as one of the murderous, but strangely endear (at least to warped lil' ol' me) Tremor Brothers. He's never had a huge leading role like being cast as Harry would be, (There's only one other wizard named Harry that I know of and that kid is a bit of a git of you ask me...;)) but there's always a first time, no? Not sure if Durand has his snark factor completely dialed up or not to play Harry's glib, sardonic, rapier wit to the hilt, but give him an intricately carved staff, a snazzy leather trench, and a brooding, wide brimmed hat, with dramatic lighting with the rest of him in shadow, and see what you get, hmmm? He might surprise everybody, and he might be the best antihero since Clint's The Man With No Name, or at least be badder than Liam Neeson's campy bandage wrapped Darkman. Cry Havoc, And Let Loose The Dogs Of War!!!

(http://img.listal.com/image/833322/600full-kevin-durand.jpg)


Definitely Cristina Ricci for Murph. At 5'3', and curvy as a Lamans race course, all you gotta do is blonde her up, with color contacts, hand her a gun, and BAM! Murphy's Law on the Chi-Town prowl, baby!

(http://img.listal.com/image/1339633/600full-christina-ricci.jpg)

Did you see our sweet and creepy Wednesday Addams all growns-up in Black Snake Moan? Sheesh! Scariest Lil' Nympho Ever! Poor Samuel L. Jackson had a miniature tiger by the tail there. Nothin' like an ol' black man keepin' a firey lil' white girl chained up to a radiator in the Deep South! Heh...


As for Morgan? Well, he's gettin' a bit old, but I'm feelin' Ed Harris. That boy is one steely eyed mofo! Carl in a History Of Violence. General Hummel in The Rock. And lest we not forget, the freaky psycho serial killer, Blair Sullivan, in Just Cause. I still say he gave Anthony Hopkins' Hannibal Lecter a run for his money in that flick.

He should easily be able to pull off the fanatical Warden Morgan.

(http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/9/15/49/9/@/75460-ed-harris-637x0-1.jpg)

Look at 'im! Such a handsome devil!


Well, that's all for now.

As ya'll can tell, I'm kind of a cinophile. Hey, we all gotta' have our hobbies.

Oh, and, um, just wondering... Are we allowed to post pics like this? If not, I'll take 'em down, and jam the links instead.

Jimmy Out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 18, 2010, 10:21:30 AM
Pics are fine. It's recommended that they be copied over to a file-sharing site like Photobucket and linked from there so as not to mess with other sites' bandwidth, but that's only a suggestion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 18, 2010, 04:34:00 PM
Christina Ricci is very good for Murphy!!! This blonde pic really looks like Murph to me. http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3421149952/nm0000207 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3421149952/nm0000207)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tribblechomper on October 18, 2010, 04:45:58 PM
Christina Ricci is very good for Murphy!!! This blonde pic really looks like Murph to me. http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3421149952/nm0000207 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3421149952/nm0000207)

Sorry, but too much forehead; maybe she and Marcia Cross could get together and form a society for women with mutant foreheads?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 18, 2010, 04:49:52 PM
The Forehead was a villain the Tick comics.

... and now you know. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 18, 2010, 07:14:43 PM
Lol! But she's got the kind of cute and rounded Murph features.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wonderdude on October 18, 2010, 09:06:17 PM
It's been said several times already, so I'll just throw my vote into the pile and say that I believe that Butters should be played by Zack Gallaphinacas.  The more he ages, the more he becomes Butters to me.
That's the guy from The Hangover, right?  Wasn't Butters described as short and skinny?  Personally, I've been seeing Simon Helburg in my head whenever I read Butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wonderdude on October 18, 2010, 09:08:54 PM
Sorry, I have to vote against Jared Padaleki.  He played Thomas Kinkaid (the "Painter of Light") in a Hall-mark style movie over Christmas.  Kind of ruined him as a tough guy--or even tough-ish guy for me.  I'll never be able to imagine him without a paintbrush in his hand ever again....Try to see him with a wand---and have the wand morph into a brush...nope...just does not work for me....
Plus, Padalecki is just so darn pretty.  Harry was never described as pretty.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wonderdude on October 18, 2010, 09:31:28 PM
Sorry, but too much forehead; maybe she and Marcia Cross could get together and form a society for women with mutant foreheads?

XD
Plus, to me, Christina Ricci is just too much of a human anime character.  She can do the "strange, mysterious woman" thing great, and she's got the Goth cred, but she's just too fragile-looking to be a believable Murphy.  Murphy's tough.   She's a cop and a martial artist. 
Sarah Michelle Geller...maybe.  She's a bit too waifish, too, in my book.  It worked on Buffy because of the dichotomy between the "saviour of the world" and the "tiny blonde girl."  But Murphy's supposed to be what keeps the Dresdenverse grounded in the real world.  She's a vanilla human, so if an actress has to kick butt like Murphy, she's gotta have some muscle mass to her.  You couldn't just explain it away by saying she has superpowers or whatever.

Christina Ricci would be a good choice for Esmeralda Batista, the vampire assassin from Changes, though. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 18, 2010, 09:57:22 PM
Maybe she's just always gotten more Goth type roles and hasn't had the chance to show her ability to play a tough marial artist type. Granted, I've only seen pics and clips so I'd want to see her do a screen test first but I'm not ready to discount her based on role history.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 19, 2010, 12:22:13 AM
I say we clone clint eastwood and then age him to 26 and have him be harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: adgramaine on October 19, 2010, 12:31:21 AM
There's too many pages for me to sift through, but has anyone thought of Molly Quinn (Castle; the daughter) for the part of, well, Molly?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 19, 2010, 01:18:11 AM
Nope and for good reason shes a red head
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: adgramaine on October 19, 2010, 01:51:18 AM
Hair can be dyed and there are things called wigs  :D

She pulls of the sweet side perfectly. Plus, she's got snark as seen in the show....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 19, 2010, 01:58:15 AM
I don't think she could be hardcore enough
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 19, 2010, 02:02:45 AM
I think she's a little too fine boned to be Murphy.
Murphy isn't huge but neither is she so fine boned you think you'll break something if you touch her.
I've seen one of Ricci's costumes - I thought it belonged to a kid not an adult.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 19, 2010, 02:08:19 AM
How bout Hayden Penetierre  for Murphy. Just make her look a little bit older
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 19, 2010, 03:52:37 AM
How bout Hayden Penetierre  for Murphy. Just make her look a little bit older

Nah...too youthful no matter what you do.

For Molly, how about Mekenna Melvin (aka Casey's daughter from "Chuck)?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 19, 2010, 04:08:53 AM
it's called movie magic
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 19, 2010, 12:58:26 PM
How bout Hayden Penetierre  for Murphy. Just make her look a little bit older

And just why would you choose someone who's younger when there happens to be just that many more women who are literally the right age for the role? Murph starts the stories off in her early thirties, and her back story says that she's been a peace officer since before she was able to vote. That means at least 15 years of the wear and tear of being a Chicago cop. "Movie magic" or awesome face make-up or not, Hayden Panetierre, IMHO, can NOT pull off the role. Not when there's so many others who can.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 19, 2010, 03:02:23 PM
And just why would you choose someone who's younger when there happens to be just that many more women who are literally the right age for the role? Murph starts the stories off in her early thirties, and her back story says that she's been a peace officer since before she was able to vote. That means at least 15 years of the wear and tear of being a Chicago cop. "Movie magic" or awesome face make-up or not, Hayden Panetierre, IMHO, can NOT pull off the role. Not when there's so many others who can.

Very true.  Murphy requires a woman with acting chops.  Panetierre is not there yet in age or experience.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 19, 2010, 05:32:49 PM
I think she can be a tough nonsense kinda girl.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 19, 2010, 08:21:00 PM
I think she can be a tough nonsense kinda girl.

Tough? Not so much. Nonsense? I agree, she's full of nonsense. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on October 19, 2010, 08:28:36 PM
Sarah Michelle Geller would make an awesome Murphy!  (not that I am completely swayed by all things Buffy or anything)   ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 19, 2010, 10:58:45 PM
Sarah Michelle Geller would make an awesome Murphy!  (not that I am completely swayed by all things Buffy or anything)   ::)

^^^^

THIS. JUST THIS.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 20, 2010, 12:34:44 AM
I'm not saying Murphy is fat but SMG would have to thicken up a little bit
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 20, 2010, 12:46:15 AM
I love SMG but I'm just not sure she has round enough features to play Murph. I think I've mentioned Julia Stiles before (and I am NOT recommending her for Murphy) but she has the kind of round jaw and features and the cute nose that Murphy needs. I think SMG may be just too lean in her features.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 20, 2010, 12:50:43 AM
I love SMG but I'm just not sure she has round enough features to play Murph.

 I think SMG may be just too lean in her features.

Agreed which is why we need Hayden Penetierre
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 20, 2010, 01:39:05 AM
I think she can be a tough nonsense kinda girl.

Murphy is a woman - not a girl.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 20, 2010, 01:42:24 AM
Murphy is a woman - not a girl.

Agreed! She needs to have rounded features because of genetics, not youth.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 20, 2010, 01:48:56 AM
Hayden is like 26 or so
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 20, 2010, 01:50:19 AM
Hayden is like 26 or so

Still too young to have Murphy's wary and weary features and the girl doesn't have the acting chops.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on October 20, 2010, 01:54:21 AM
no she's like 20/21 i know she's about my age. still alot of her roles have bee n cheerleader "i know better" teenager type things too. although her character in Malcom in the middle was funny, but she's too young for a murphy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 20, 2010, 01:56:02 AM
Agreed! She needs to have rounded features because of genetics, not youth.

In which case, barring SMG, it should be Emily Rose, who is 29, blonde haired, blue-eyed, has a cute little upturned nose, and looks like she could have been either a cheerleader, or someone's favorite aunt, ANNNND plays an FBI agent on Haven. She also plays alongside Lucas Bryant, who is my choice for Young!Harry.

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTc3NzE0NzE3MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzU2OTU5MQ@@._V1._SX214_CR0,0,214,314_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 20, 2010, 01:58:03 AM
How about the lady from In Plain Sight too lazy to look up the name
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 20, 2010, 01:58:51 AM
no she's like 20/21 i know she's about my age. still alot of her roles have bee n cheerleader "i know better" teenager type things too. although her character in Malcom in the middle was funny, but she's too young for a murphy.

She just turned 21 in August. Hayden is adorable, but agreed, she is WAY too young for Murphy. And it's unfortunate that she's been typecast, but no one would believe her as a hardened lieutenant in the Chicago Police Department. Sorry, Grey.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 20, 2010, 02:02:53 AM
Dirty Blond up her hair and give her less makeup
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 20, 2010, 02:07:34 AM
Dirty Blond up her hair and give her less makeup

Sorry Grey, but a young girl has more rounded and fleshy, if you will, features than a mature woman. 
Less make-up will not make Hayden look world weary.  And Murphy needs to be someone who can really act.
Hayden doesn't have the experience or the chops yet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 20, 2010, 02:16:28 AM
She was on heroes and has been acting since diapers. She was in the greatest football movie ever. Remember the Titans.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on October 20, 2010, 02:33:19 AM
nah she's like of italian descent too , not irish . hayden's just too..cutesty
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 20, 2010, 02:36:11 AM
hayden's just too..cutesty

Agreed. Cute is right for Murph but "cutesy" indicates a lightness of attitude and/or brains as well, which of course does not apply to Murphy at all.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 20, 2010, 02:36:47 AM
Yeah but the third eye scene would be interesting

i still stand by my choice for harry though
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 20, 2010, 03:10:58 AM
Away from Murphy for a moment how about

EB-Bill Murry (If not connery who i would love to see play this part)

Sanya- Chris Rock

Butters-Michael Weston http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1398903808/nm0922995
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on October 20, 2010, 03:13:12 AM
Eb=Shecky, but with wrinkles and no hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 20, 2010, 03:17:35 AM
Updated post above and i don't know how much acting expierence shecky has. Although if i were you i wouldn't call shecky old.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on October 20, 2010, 03:20:07 AM
Lo Shecky's way too young, but i saw the fan dinner pics , he went as Eb . It looked really cool.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 20, 2010, 04:15:40 AM
Yeah it was kinda cool
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 20, 2010, 11:19:41 AM
Eb=Shecky, but with wrinkles and no hair.

I went as Younger Eb, from after the time Listens to Wind gave him the hat and when Maggie started getting uppity. Now you understand what made him lose his hair. :D

And Performing Arts was one of my three minors in undergrad. Not to mention that "grumpy redneck" pretty much describes my youth anyway. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 20, 2010, 03:18:46 PM
I went as Younger Eb, from after the time Listens to Wind gave him the hat and when Maggie started getting uppity. Now you understand what made him lose his hair. :D

And Performing Arts was one of my three minors in undergrad. Not to mention that "grumpy redneck" pretty much describes my youth anyway. ;D

There's a difference between 'grumpy redneck" and "grumpy mountain person" - a big difference.
Morning Shecky.  Loved your Eb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on October 20, 2010, 04:27:22 PM
"grumpy redneck"

I believe the correct term is 'Grumpy Appalachian American'
:D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 20, 2010, 04:29:36 PM
Not big on SMG as Murph.  She's too tall.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 20, 2010, 05:30:43 PM
Not big on SMG as Murph.  She's too tall.

*blinks*

She's 5'3". 5'3" is too tall? Really?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 20, 2010, 05:31:22 PM

I believe the correct term is 'Grumpy Appalachian American'
:D

Those are my sister's husband's family. They're so far back in the Appalachians that what was the ONLY road into their valley until about 20 years ago was in a cut deep enough that the sun never actually touched the road. :D I'm a flatlander by comparison. But, let's face it, I've known enough rednecks from enough places in my life to speak with certainty when I say that while there are different flavors of rednecks, they're ALL rednecks. (Should say "we". ;) )
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 20, 2010, 09:25:32 PM
*blinks*

She's 5'3". 5'3" is too tall? Really?

Yeah Murphy is 5 flat and 100 nothing
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on October 20, 2010, 09:36:44 PM
then again,  next to someone as tall as harry , 3 inches won't really matter. just as long as they're reletively much shorter.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 20, 2010, 09:40:44 PM
I agree that it is close enough i was joking but i still think we have to make a decision. Do we want a little bit taller or a little younger. I think we can't find the perfect spot.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 21, 2010, 12:22:05 AM
I remain stubbornly convinced that the right one is out there and we just haven't found her yet. Plus, remember that in real auditions there would be some pretty much unknowns out there who we aren't thinking of who might get Murphy as their breakout role and do spectacular.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 21, 2010, 12:43:44 AM
I would love that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 21, 2010, 02:10:54 AM
EMILY ROSE EMILY ROSE EMILY ROSE
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 21, 2010, 02:17:39 AM
I say we leave most parts to unknown
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 21, 2010, 03:34:51 AM
Starting to lean towards Emma Stone for Molly. She's freaking adorable. She is also my current girl crush.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 21, 2010, 03:42:16 AM
She seems good but off putting
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Kemp on October 21, 2010, 04:33:01 AM
Greyelus: I like your Butters pick; he did good work in his guest episode of Burn Notice.

Warden John Marcone: Sarah may have a few inches on Murphy, but she's got the martial arts background, and she has experience playing cute-looking women who are in reality serious fighters (Buffy anyone?). I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Jim had based Murphy's appearance off of Buffy (or Buffy's general type).

(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080904/300.eckhart.aaron.090408.jpg)

I kind of like Aaron Eckhart for Michael; add a little brown hair dye and some slight age makeup (which might not even be necessary), and he'd be perfect.

(http://images.mycollects.com/Upload/uploadfiles/Plain-sight.png)

As for Charity, I really think that Mary McCormack (the female protagonist of In Plain Sight) could do an excellent job.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 21, 2010, 04:36:54 AM
Greyelus: I like your Butters pick; he did good work in his guest episode of Burn Notice.

Warden John Marcone: Sarah may have a few inches on Murphy, but she's got the martial arts background, and she has experience playing cute-looking women who are in reality serious fighters (Buffy anyone?). I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Jim had based Murphy's appearance off of Buffy (or Buffy's general type).

(http://images.mycollects.com/Upload/uploadfiles/Plain-sight.png)

As for Charity, I really think that Mary McCormack (the female protagonist of In Plain Sight) could do an excellent job.

Funny i got him from that episode i thought he'd be perfect the way he stammers.

I actually (without thinking) put mary out for murphy, kinda stupid

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Kemp on October 21, 2010, 04:43:30 AM
Hey, these things happen. coughConvert-To-SMGcough  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 21, 2010, 12:17:16 PM
her frailness worked with buffy because she was a regular girl with super strength. I think something would be lost in the translation with SMG
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on October 21, 2010, 01:18:54 PM
Sarah Michelle Geller still my pick for Murphy.

(http://www.atpobtvs.com/images/launcher.jpg)

(http://www.vampires.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/buffy-fight.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Kemp on October 21, 2010, 02:51:10 PM
Amen, Chiana. SMG for Murphy!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 21, 2010, 05:31:58 PM
Nah i couldn't take her serios as murphy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 21, 2010, 07:28:23 PM
I'm actually a huge fan of Aaron Ekhart but I don't think he comes across with that totally trustworthy strength that Michael has. And as for Emma Stone, to me she seems too cheap to be Molly. (I know - Molly is kind of complicated but she still isn't what I would call cheap.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Kemp on October 21, 2010, 09:22:27 PM
Have you watched The Dark Knight? Eckhart's portrayal of Harvey Dent before the scarring is what makes me think of Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 21, 2010, 09:27:32 PM
Have you watched The Dark Knight? Eckhart's portrayal of Harvey Dent before the scarring is what makes me think of Michael.

Hm. Haven't seen it but I've seen him in three of his other roles (the most heroic being his role in the excellent movie "Never Was") and I just don't think he exudes "Michaelness."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 21, 2010, 09:40:47 PM
Which is why I'm all about Paul Gross for Michael. Constable Benton Fraser, the Fist of God? Dead on target.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 21, 2010, 10:36:28 PM
Which is why I'm all about Paul Gross for Michael. Constable Benton Fraser, the Fist of God? Dead on target.

Closer to what Michael should be but still not quite. He looks a little too "executive-y" to me, not as genuine and down-to-earth as Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 21, 2010, 11:10:37 PM
How about that guy from grease for Michael. ( i know the name but for some reason i can't recall right now,)
He was awesome in domestic disturbance
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 21, 2010, 11:13:30 PM
BANG!

THAT's for suggesting that John Travolta get anywhere NEAR this movie!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 21, 2010, 11:17:27 PM
What he would make an awesome michael
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 21, 2010, 11:47:25 PM
What he would make an awesome michael

Not right for Michael. He doesn't have the right "aura" for me, in addition to the fact that he's not in nearly good enough shape to play Michael (who Harry thinks of alongside Thomas in the "makes me want to go to the gym" catagory.) Plus, my mental image of Michael is very different and his smile just isn't Michael-ish to me either.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 21, 2010, 11:48:39 PM
Yeah it is mostly the strong jaw that makes me think of michael
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 21, 2010, 11:55:28 PM
Yeah it is mostly the strong jaw that makes me think of michael

The strong jaw is indeed an important feature of Michael's and to me a dealbreaker for anyone who doesn't have it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 21, 2010, 11:56:26 PM
I felt the same about superman. That's why i refuse to watch Superman Returns ever again.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 12:15:40 AM
Closer to what Michael should be but still not quite. He looks a little too "executive-y" to me, not as genuine and down-to-earth as Michael.

Really? Huh? "Executive" is one of the last descriptions I could imagine for his Fraser character. He's visibly upright, honest, open, strong and outright good. I can't NOT see him as Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 22, 2010, 12:18:12 AM
What about tom cruise.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 12:19:23 AM
What about tom cruise.

What about him? He's a scale model of himself - a microwhackjob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 22, 2010, 12:22:58 AM
For Michael. He was great in several movies including the minority report which i am nominating him for michael for
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
For Michael. He was great in several movies including the minority report which i am nominating him for michael for

Still not seeing it. Especially given that Gross has far more of the look and the size. Tom Cruise is pocket-sized.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on October 22, 2010, 12:31:54 AM
Hey, he could always play the field marshal of the 'za knights.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 22, 2010, 12:32:29 AM
I think he could be very convincing. How about Fillion for michael instead of harry. He played that preacher on buffy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 12:38:24 AM
I think he could be very convincing.

I've yet to see him play any role convincingly, to be honest. And that's despite being a big fan of his first M:I movie. He just comes across as a little too slick to be Michael. That role requires an unmistakable look of pure-good + badass, and I don't see Cruise pulling either of those off convincingly, much less both.

How about Fillion for michael instead of harry. He played that preacher on buffy

... I had not considered that. He could have the look VERY easily. But it would be a sad, sad waste of prime snark delivery. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 22, 2010, 12:42:10 AM
I've yet to see him play any role convincingly, to be honest. And that's despite being a big fan of his first M:I movie. He just comes across as a little too slick to be Michael. That role requires an unmistakable look of pure-good + badass, and I don't see Cruise pulling either of those off convincingly, much less both.

... I had not considered that. He could have the look VERY easily. But it would be a sad, sad waste of prime snark delivery. :D

For Cruise you could watch Valkerie which was pretty good.

Fillion could be restrained which would make an amazing michael. You just know he restrains himself.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Myyrdn Eopia on October 22, 2010, 12:45:20 AM
*slips in*

Bang.

*slips out*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 22, 2010, 12:45:55 AM
Everybody is banging me today  ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 12:48:14 AM
For Cruise you could watch Valkerie which was pretty good.

Watched part of that before getting tired of Cruise's characterization. He seemed so out of sync with the rest of the cast.

Fillion could be restrained which would make an amazing michael. You just know he restrains himself.

I know, and that makes the lost potential snark that much more heartbreaking. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 22, 2010, 12:52:06 AM
Watched part of that before getting tired of Cruise's characterization. He seemed so out of sync with the rest of the cast.

I know, and that makes the lost potential snark that much more heartbreaking. :D

Some would say above the cast.
I would be sad but proud of fillion. He would capture the show. Unless they had a good harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 12:55:39 AM
Some would say above the cast.

Not I. If that were the case, it'd be the rest of the cast being out of sync with him. Which (sorry) wasn't how it looked.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 22, 2010, 12:58:02 AM
I liked it probably because i like him as an actor. I really like Minority Report
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 01:05:35 AM
I liked it probably because i like him as an actor. I really like Minority Report

Oh, I enjoyed the heck out of Minority Report. But that was despite Cruise.

Now, don't mistake me. I don't hate him or even particularly dislike him. He's just no great shakes as an actor. He had a pretty face and could portray a confident attitude when he was younger; since then, he's pretty much been coasting on those laurels.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 22, 2010, 01:07:32 AM
His war of the worlds was the second best after the second one. (btw there are four i think)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 22, 2010, 02:07:27 AM
Big no on Tom Cruise. I, unlike Shecky, dislike the crap out of Cruise. Never have liked him. He seems entirely insincere about anything and everything that comes out of his mouth. Barring that, he would actually make me distrust Michael, which is something that should NEVER happen.

Fillion as Michael, I can definitely see, although Shecky is right in that there would be massive potentially primo snark lost in translation here. I think I could be okay with it, though, as long as whoever plays Harry brings it for the both of them. He's played serious roles before (a misogynistic priest who was really an agent of the First Evil on Buffy, which was just flipping creepy; a doctor who falls for Keri Russel's character in the movie Waitress; and despite the completely BA snarkiness of the character, Captain Malcolm Reynolds was deeply serious, too.)

In the end, I'd still have to see a screen test to be sure. Michael is one of the best characters in the series (he's in my top three, right after Harry, Karrin and Thomas, and no, I didn't count wrong -- Karrin and Thomas share the number 2 spot). I love Nathan, but my top pick for Michael is still Viggo Mortenson (at least until something epic happens and they discover an unknown who completely kills the role).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 22, 2010, 02:09:38 AM
I actually hated michael till proven Guilty and then realized what a great man with a great burden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 22, 2010, 02:22:35 AM
My two cents worth.
Tom Cruise shouldn't have anything to do with a HD film.
He's been too busy playing himself lately.
And definitely NOT as Michael.  No way.
Nathan Fillion is great but he's not a Michael.
More as one of the wardens or the new FBI guy - Tilly?  Have I that right?
Paul Gross is a good choice for Michael.  Give him a close cropped beard and a shaggier hair style and he'd be good to go.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 22, 2010, 02:25:13 AM
Shaggy hair like charity would allow that
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 02:54:00 AM
Nah, just grab him as-is from Constable Fraser, add beard and done.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on October 22, 2010, 03:04:31 AM
*slips in*

Bang.

*slips out*
I'm wanting to say something along the lines of "that's what she said" but it's not really applicable here. :D
Everybody is banging me today  ::)
:D :D :D

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 22, 2010, 03:13:52 AM
Yeah you can't make a joke of a joke
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on October 22, 2010, 03:19:41 AM
ok mind out of gutter . sowwy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 22, 2010, 03:20:39 AM
Can you give me a hand out of it too?  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on October 22, 2010, 11:49:56 AM
I think they should actually hire David Duchovny for Tilly, then dye his hair a little darker or add a teensy facial prosthetic (nose?) so that he looks sliiiiiiightly different.  Then he could be himself in Harry's illusion. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 01:27:54 PM
Heh. Jokes within jokes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 22, 2010, 02:43:55 PM
That's a good one, I like that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 22, 2010, 04:13:47 PM
Really? Huh? "Executive" is one of the last descriptions I could imagine for his Fraser character. He's visibly upright, honest, open, strong and outright good. I can't NOT see him as Michael.

Don't worry - I meant that like "the son of a rich executive who just inherited the company." If I had meant something negative, I would have just said "lawyer."  ;) He seems like a nice guy but still not Michael to me. Michael is a high class guy in the sense that he is a good person and an upstanding citizen but he just doesn't scream "corner office" like that actor does with me for some reason.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 22, 2010, 04:19:12 PM
My two cents worth.
Tom Cruise shouldn't have anything to do with a HD film.
He's been too busy playing himself lately.
And definitely NOT as Michael.  No way.
Nathan Fillion is great but he's not a Michael.
More as one of the wardens or the new FBI guy - Tilly?  Have I that right?
Paul Gross is a good choice for Michael.  Give him a close cropped beard and a shaggier hair style and he'd be good to go.

Other than the bit about Paul Gross, I agree 100 percent. Nathan as Tilly would be awesome but he's just no Michael. And Tom Cruise is way too stuck on himself (even if he does have some cause to be) to play a convincing Michael or Harry. He does well in certain parts (like the fabulous "Knight & Day") but he can't put himself into a humble role to save his life. That cockiness is certainly part of his charm but it also limits what types of roles he can convincingly play. (And I know, Harry is kind of cocky a lot but he is cocky about stuff other than his supreme hotness, which is what Cruise is so cocky about. So its cockiness but its still worlds apart.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 04:52:00 PM
Don't worry - I meant that like "the son of a rich executive who just inherited the company." If I had meant something negative, I would have just said "lawyer."  ;) He seems like a nice guy but still not Michael to me. Michael is a high class guy in the sense that he is a good person and an upstanding citizen but he just doesn't scream "corner office" like that actor does with me for some reason.

*snort* I see what you mean. I guess that's where our personal visions diverge; I don't see that in Gross, but I can certainly respect that you do. He IS a little bit of Whitey McWhite, isn't he? ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 22, 2010, 05:20:31 PM
*snort* I see what you mean. I guess that's where our personal visions diverge; I don't see that in Gross, but I can certainly respect that you do. He IS a little bit of Whitey McWhite, isn't he? ;)

Lol! That he is. He is quite cute, though.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 05:27:15 PM
Lol! That he is. He is quite cute, though.  ;)

Not my flavor, so I can't judge. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 22, 2010, 05:29:15 PM
Not my flavor, so I can't judge. :D

Ah, lol. You can only judge by the Dresden Criteria, eh? "Does he have beer? And if so, will he share it with me?"  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 05:33:05 PM
Ah, lol. You can only judge by the Dresden Criteria, eh? "Does he have beer? And if so, will he share it with me?"  ;)

Or the other man-thought: "Can I take him?" If the answer is "no", THEN comes the Dresden-question. ;D And Constable Benton Fraser would feed me my knees, so that's "no"... but he's Canadian, so he might have some fine beer. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 22, 2010, 05:37:57 PM
Or the other man-thought: "Can I take him?" If the answer is "no", THEN comes the Dresden-question. ;D And Constable Benton Fraser would feed me my knees, so that's "no"... but he's Canadian, so he might have some fine beer. Problem solved.

Lol! Glad to know we have those important questions ironed out.  :) :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 05:38:55 PM
Lol! Glad to know we have those important questions ironed out.  :) :D

All two of them. Everything else is peripheral.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 22, 2010, 05:45:07 PM
All two of them. Everything else is peripheral.

Of course.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 22, 2010, 06:00:31 PM
Just an aside: I freaking love it when questions and comments get Shecky going. That entire exchange between hatshep and Shecky had me rolling. You guys are awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 06:33:57 PM
I am but a vessel of the Snark.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 22, 2010, 06:49:34 PM
We are here but to entertain.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 22, 2010, 06:51:40 PM
And I am butt losing mine due to laughter.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 22, 2010, 07:12:20 PM
*dies of laughter*

I hafta go magically resurrect myself now so I can start laughing again.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 22, 2010, 07:14:43 PM
And I am butt losing mine due to laughter.

Well, the best comedy only happens when you can laugh at yourself. And I am content in the fact that I am inherently ridiculous. I've got material for a LIFETIME. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 22, 2010, 07:19:59 PM
"The burden of the self is lightened when I laugh at myself." - Rabindranath Tagore
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: nickoso04 on October 22, 2010, 08:09:52 PM
some very good choices here is my list

Harry- Ryan Reynolds/Hugh Jackman
Murph Kelli Giddish (lady from tv show chase) Sarah Michelle Geller
Thomas Ian Somerhil (Boone From lost) Sam Worthington
Morgan Alan Rickman
Lara Raith Pam Anderson/ Scarlett Johanson
Susan Eva Mendez
Bob Patrick Stewart/John Goodman
Butters Jim Parsons/ Raine Wilson
Michael Eric Dane/ Erik Bana
Nicodemus Christoph Waltz
Ortega Jimmy Smitz
Kincaid Josh Holloway (Sawyer from Lost)
Mab Heather Locklear
Aurora Sara Michelle Geller/Kriston Belle
Maeve Thora Burch
Madrigal Raith Justin Long
Marcone Brad Bitt
Ebineezer Tommy Lee Jones

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 22, 2010, 08:50:30 PM
some very good choices here is my list

Harry- Ryan Reynolds/Hugh Jackman
Marcone Brad Bitt
Ebineezer Tommy Lee Jones

I agree with these three
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 22, 2010, 09:16:11 PM
some very good choices here is my list

Harry- Ryan Reynolds/Hugh Jackman
Murph Kelli Giddish (lady from tv show chase) Sarah Michelle Geller
Thomas Ian Somerhil (Boone From lost) Sam Worthington
Morgan Alan Rickman
Lara Raith Pam Anderson/ Scarlett Johanson
Susan Eva Mendez
Bob Patrick Stewart/John Goodman
Butters Jim Parsons/ Raine Wilson
Michael Eric Dane/ Erik Bana
Nicodemus Christoph Waltz
Ortega Jimmy Smitz
Kincaid Josh Holloway (Sawyer from Lost)
Mab Heather Locklear
Aurora Sara Michelle Geller/Kriston Belle
Maeve Thora Burch
Madrigal Raith Justin Long
Marcone Brad Bitt
Ebineezer Tommy Lee Jones



Some very good options here. And I have to say, although I've been disapproving of Ryan Reynolds for a while now, I am kind of warming up to the idea of him as Harry if Marsters couldn't have the role. Josh Hollaway would make a perfect Kincaid, SMG would be great for Aurora (Kristen Bell's voice is just too little girly,) and Tommy Lee Jones as Ebenezer would be great, provided he could "mountain man" up his attitude and voice a little (which he is a great actor so I'm sure he could.) I'm not so keen on Pam Anderson or Scarlett Johanson for Lara because a) they don't come across as very bright and Lara is sharp as a tack and b) they are both blondes. Also Sam Worthington is too ruggedly handsome to play the more prettyboy-ish (and I mean that in the best way possible) Thomas. And Brad Pitt isn't old enough to play Marcone. But you've certainly got some great choices up there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 22, 2010, 09:23:32 PM
Madrigal Raith Justin Long, huh?  Meliekz.  NOT!  Can't see it, and besides, Long is too nice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on October 22, 2010, 10:26:09 PM
These are the only ones that actually popped into my head while reading:

Thomas - Matt Bomer, definately x]
Charity -Julie Benz
Binder - How does that not scream Mark Sheppard?

And... I think you guys need to watch this. It's from an incredibly corny internet show: LG15. But watch this video
http://www.lg15.com/episode/view/2/1/4/1 (http://www.lg15.com/episode/view/2/1/4/1)
 (at about 1:10 and 5:00, and tell me that you can't imagine this as Harry and Molly)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: nickoso04 on October 22, 2010, 10:55:20 PM
there was some of these that I am still not sure on, Justin Long i'll admit was a reach,  I still am having some issues with Marcone, what about Anthony LaPaglia (Jack from without a trace) I think the Ian Sumerhalder for Thomas would be great,  yes I agree about Lara Raith you are right Pamela too ditsy and Johanson not right either, what about Charlize Theron,  Melinda Clarke from Nekita for Bianca, come on guys what do you think
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on October 23, 2010, 02:33:09 AM
According to section XXVII subsection 12, article j of the Hollywood bylaws you are not allowed to have a genre project without including Mark Shepard somewhere in the cast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 23, 2010, 02:35:01 AM
In XVIII it states you can have it without him if it's Urban Fantasy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 23, 2010, 04:50:25 AM
How about Kate from Angel for Murphy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on October 23, 2010, 05:40:38 AM
Jensen Ackles as Harry Dresden yes Jared P as Dresden NO!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MAW on October 23, 2010, 07:00:52 AM
Harry Anderson as Eb.   :o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on October 23, 2010, 10:36:20 AM
In XVIII it states you can have it without him if it's Urban Fantasy

Then he's breaking the snot out of the rules by appearing on "Supernatural".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 23, 2010, 01:55:19 PM
According to section XXVII subsection 12, article j of the Hollywood bylaws you are not allowed to have a genre project without including Mark Shepard somewhere in the cast.

THANK YOU!

Seriously, I'm beginning to think it's a real law. Especially since he just got cast on DOCTOR WHO!!!!!!!!!!

*fangirls*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 23, 2010, 01:57:35 PM
How about Kate from Angel for Murphy

I pushed that for a while. Everyone told me no. Apparently, she's too tall :P

EMILY ROSE EMILY ROSE EMILY ROSE EMILY ROSE

.... as Murphy.

That is all.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 23, 2010, 01:59:06 PM
Then he's breaking the snot out of the rules by appearing on "Supernatural".

See my post on Mark Sheppard getting a role on DOCTOR WHO.

Kid you not, I am flailing like never before right now. This makes me so flipping excited.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Eibhlin on October 23, 2010, 02:04:42 PM
Liam Neeson for Michael
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 23, 2010, 02:34:09 PM
Jensen Ackles as Harry Dresden yes Jared P as Dresden NO!

Why? Jared's physical form, such as it is, fits the description of Dresden a lot more than Jensen's does. Especially as they actually have about the same height differential between them that Harry and Thomas have between them. Jared is about 6'5" (which is about as close to Harry's rather freaky 6'9" that anyone is going to get unless you cast Paul White [The Big Show] in a completely out-of-place role as Harry), and Jensen is about 6'1. I actually pitched Jared as Harry and Jensen as Thomas a while back, just because of the similarities between the characters. That and, well... Jensen's just a leeeeettle too pretty to be Harry. Can you imagine that face all punched up, bruised and bleeding?

Oh, wait. There WAS that one time at the very literal end of Season 5.

Still, though. Even punched up, bruised and bleeding, he still looks awful.... um. Well, you can tell he's usually good looking in any case. Too good looking to be Harry. Jared's looks are a little more on par. Plus, I swear to everything wacky, someone used Jared as a model for Dresden on the cover for Welcome to The Jungle.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 23, 2010, 02:34:41 PM
Errr. My computer's acting up. Sorry about that :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 23, 2010, 04:06:18 PM
i think that since they already got a dynamic down they would be a good fit
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on October 25, 2010, 12:23:38 AM
One of the things that stumps me as far as rounding out the full cast, is that Harry and Thomas would have to resemble one another close enough to pull off the brother-act. If you go the Padalecki route, you could cast Taylor Kitsch as Thomas, who is basically a prettier Padalecki. And you have two actors young enough to build a franchise around. There's a height difference, as apparently Pad's 6'4" or more whereas Kitsch is 5'11", but if I remember correctly Thomas is shorter anyway, though I could be wrong (Something that occurs frequently when I argue with my wife).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 25, 2010, 12:28:52 AM
Right about the shorter thing although i don't think the difference is that big.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 25, 2010, 12:35:23 AM
One of the things that stumps me as far as rounding out the full cast, is that Harry and Thomas would have to resemble one another close enough to pull off the brother-act. If you go the Padalecki route, you could cast Taylor Kitsch as Thomas, who is basically a prettier Padalecki. And you have two actors young enough to build a franchise around. There's a height difference, as apparently Pad's 6'4" or more whereas Kitsch is 5'11", but if I remember correctly Thomas is shorter anyway, though I could be wrong (Something that occurs frequently when I argue with my wife).

You are correct, Thomas is shorter than Harry, and Harry frequently lords it over him. (Plus, there was that moment in Small Favor where Thomas had to run around town as Harry to distract the gruffs, but the glamour Harry had created for him reflected the way he [Harry] looked before he got his nose broken by a gruff's hoof. They had to get Molly to use her Goth-'Em-Up make-up to make Thomas actually look like Harry, and she had to practice looking past the glamour, since Thomas's eye line was notably lower than Harry's was.)

I think most people who root for Padalecki to play Harry would prefer it if Jensen Ackles played Thomas, because in real life, as well as on Supernatural there is a four to five year age difference between them, Ackles is the older, shorter, "prettier" one (some would say), and the boys have a history with each other, both as playing brothers, and being as close AS brothers (Ackles was best man at Padalecki's wedding to Genevieve Cortese; prior to that, they were actually roomies -- I believe -- since 2006.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on October 25, 2010, 01:14:36 AM
I may actually have to start watching Supernatural, I'm hearing some awesome things have come out of it over the past season or so. I tried watching it once when the show first aired, and it seemed too... Charmed for Boys, to put it mildly, but it really sounds like it's grown quite a bit since then. And looking up some Ackles pictures, yeah, I could see that working too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 25, 2010, 01:20:21 AM
Hey yeah watch it, It really does go great on the twist and turns department
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on October 25, 2010, 01:35:22 AM
While I'm at it here's a name out of left field that might work for Harry, assuming really, when you get down to it, what makes Harry Harry and not Urban Fantasy Wizard #42197 is his wit. Well, Jim's wit, really, but Jim's so Harry it's not even funny hehe. So basically, you need someone who can pull off Harry's sardonic humor, someone with a kind of low-key but loveable charisma. Who also happens to be tall and reasonably fits Harry's description. John Krasinski. I know he's a lil goofy, but so is Harry. And apparently he had the folks at Marvel convinced he could pull off Captain America until the angrynerd backlash from the fan base scared them away from trying to put a comedian in spandex.

It also helps that he looks like he broke his nose at least once at some point in his life heh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 25, 2010, 01:38:56 AM
Yeah the only problem i had with the guy from the tv series is he was a little too serious
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 25, 2010, 02:37:07 AM
HEY, this is a fun little Dresdenverse/SPNverse tie in! I found this a while back when I was snooping through Murphy's (EMILY ROSE EMILY ROSE EMILY ROSE EMILY ROSE) profile on Wikipedia (they have since taken it down. Not sure why.):


"When Detective McBain lists off members in the network of cops that know of the paranormal in the TV series Supernatural, a female cop in Chicago named Murphy is mentioned. This was mentioned in the Supernatural tie-in book "Nevermore" by Keith R.A. DeCandido, not the series."


So while it's not TECHNICALLY canon because it's not in the show, it's book canon because it was mentioned in a book based ON the show. Murphy is known in the SPN verse! (and Sam and Dean should probably be really glad that she hasn't cottoned on to what they do just yet.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 25, 2010, 02:40:40 AM
Hey i think that later in the series she would have no problem with them smiting monsters. (just all the illegal stuff they do to facilitate this)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on October 25, 2010, 03:37:22 AM
I still think either Daniel Craig or johnny depp should be kincaid
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 25, 2010, 03:49:04 AM
I still think either Daniel Craig or johnny depp should be kincaid

No no no, Johny Depp goes nohwhere near this movie and Daniel Craig is too small and British Maybe The guy who plays batman in the new movies
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 25, 2010, 04:22:48 AM
Kincaid is NOT a small man so you need someone at least of moderate size to play him.
Hmmm, what about Dwayne Johnson?  He is most definitely NOT a small man.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 25, 2010, 04:30:01 AM
I love it although i don't think most people can see past his disney face
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 25, 2010, 04:31:38 AM
I love it although i don't think most people can see past his disney face

Tell 'em to go watch Doom, I think it is.
Sure NOT Disney in that one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 25, 2010, 04:37:29 AM
The Rundown is great also
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 25, 2010, 05:07:09 AM
Kincaid's description:


Page 107 of the Paperback edition of Death Masks:


      A man stood on my doorstep. He was nearly as tall as me but looked a lot more solid, with shoulders wide enough to make the loose black jacket he wore fit tightly on his upper arms. He wore a navy blue shirt and stood so that I could see the wrinkles caused by the straps of a shoulder rig. A black ball cap reined in dark golden hair that might have fallen to his shoulders. He hadn't shaved in a few days, and had a short, white scar below his mouth that highlighted the cleft in his chin. His eyes were grey-blue and empty of any expression in a way I had seldom seen.



Kincaid:
(http://www.geekosystem.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Josh-Holloway.jpg)

OR

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:k5LMoO54nmEuKM:http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/zoozone/CopyofChristian-Kane-t02.jpg&t=1)
(look at the arms. Those are... those are GOOOOOOD arms to have.


Anyway, 'nuff said.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: myisk on October 25, 2010, 10:52:13 AM
She may look a bit too sweet and innocent, but what about Amy Acker (http://www.newsgab.com/attachments/celebrity-pictures/78661d1190057524-amy-acker-jonas-mohr-photoshoot-nice-legs-amy_acker_m1.jpg) as Lara?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on October 25, 2010, 12:54:53 PM
Kincaid's description:


Page 107 of the Paperback edition of Death Masks:


      A man stood on my doorstep. He was nearly as tall as me but looked a lot more solid, with shoulders wide enough to make the loose black jacket he wore fit tightly on his upper arms. He wore a navy blue shirt and stood so that I could see the wrinkles caused by the straps of a shoulder rig. A black ball cap reined in dark golden hair that might have fallen to his shoulders. He hadn't shaved in a few days, and had a short, white scar below his mouth that highlighted the cleft in his chin. His eyes were grey-blue and empty of any expression in a way I had seldom seen.



Kincaid:
(http://www.geekosystem.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Josh-Holloway.jpg)

OR

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:k5LMoO54nmEuKM:http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/zoozone/CopyofChristian-Kane-t02.jpg&t=1)
(look at the arms. Those are... those are GOOOOOOD arms to have.


Anyway, 'nuff said.
Christian Kane as Jared Kincaid. Sounds good to me.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: godlessgoth on October 25, 2010, 12:58:22 PM
See my post on Mark Sheppard getting a role on DOCTOR WHO.

Kid you not, I am flailing like never before right now. This makes me so flipping excited.
WOW!!!!!  I cannot think of any other words to say but WOW!!!!! anything else involves using profanity. but in a positive way. Mark is a great actor. Loved him in everything he has done. I think he was on the tv show Firefly but i could be wrong. Yes i looked it up he was. He is an excellent actor. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 25, 2010, 01:43:22 PM
Charity -Julie Benz
Binder - How does that not scream Mark Sheppard?

Yes and No.  Julie Benz = (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy112.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Binder's a one-shot character, Mark Sheppard deserves a larger role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 25, 2010, 03:10:56 PM
Yes and No.  Julie Benz = (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy112.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Binder's a one-shot character, Mark Sheppard deserves a larger role.

WHICH IS WHY HE SHOULD BE NICODEMUS.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ren on October 25, 2010, 04:08:22 PM
Mmm casting discusssions...
I could totally see Christian Kane as Kincaid. He's got the right combination of size and menancing potential.
My rough thoughts (for now);
Harry - Torn beteen Hugh Jackman and Nathan Fillion. They both are excellent actors, bot Hugh doesn't seem have the right snark factor and Nathan doesn't ahve the hair...sorry to say it but I've always seen Harry as having longish and curly hair which Hugh can easily pull off.
Murphy - Michelle Pfeiffer  ? Right size, can be scary looking when she wants to...8)
Thomas - hmmm any number of pretty boys could fill that role, Brad Pitt is an excellent actor but he's Brad Pitt and it's hard to hide that for anything. Johnny Depp could do it; he has the ability to hide himself in his roles.
Butters - Sharlto Copely (District 9 & the A-Team) he cna do humor and he can do serious...
Michael - Jeff Bridges ?
Charity - Jodi Foster ?
Molly - Allison Hanigan ? she'd be so adorable in that punky hair...8)
Rashid/Gatekeeper - Morgan Freeman ?
Merlin - John Malkovich ?
Leahansidhe - Helen Mirren !
Ramirez - John Leguizamo!
Ebenezer - ? I so have an image in my head of someone appropriate but I cant think of where I've seen him. Have to ocme back to this one tooo
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 25, 2010, 04:17:20 PM
David Boreanz as Michael?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ren on October 25, 2010, 04:41:14 PM
Hrmm...too young to me and a little to humorous...and pretty. Michael always strikes me as very normal-seeming and down-to-earth, but not pretty.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 25, 2010, 05:11:56 PM
David Boreanz as Michael?

:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P


That is all.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on October 25, 2010, 06:21:54 PM
John Glover as Nicodemus. If you've ever seen him in Brimstone, you've been blessed heh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 25, 2010, 06:32:58 PM
yes I agree about Lara Raith you are right Pamela too ditsy and Johanson not right either, what about Charlize Theron,  Melinda Clarke from Nekita for Bianca, come on guys what do you think

I like Melinda Clarke as one of the vampire beauties but I think she would make a better Lara.

Agree with tiny[but]fierce. Jensen Ackles has the snark for sure but the hight is an issue (he doesn't have an overly lanky build, either, which means he can't even fake it.) And he is just too, too pretty. Gorgeous, in fact. Harry doesn't consider himself to be that good looking and anybody who looked like Jensen would just have to know.  ;D

Quote
I still think either Daniel Craig or johnny depp should be kincaid

Daniel Craig...I guess maybe but I'm not really seeing it. But Johnny Depp is just way to weird. My vote still goes to Josh Holloway hands down. (And if you still need any convincing check out tiny[but]fierce's post on the previous page.) ;)

And David Boreanaz as Michael? I'm afraid I don't see that at all. I love Michael but Boreanaz is just too "pretty." Michael is actually the character I have the biggest crush on (even more than Thomas - please don't kill me...and Charity, please don't kill me either.) Michael is handsome but your first thoughts when you see Michael shouldn't be lustful and I'm afraid Boreanaz leans too much in that direction. Also, although he's certainly not untrustworthy at all, his demenor doesn't have that instantly trustworthy and genuine quality that Michael should have.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 25, 2010, 06:42:28 PM
Oh!  Robin Williams as Nicodemus!

I'm basing this off of the trailers I saw for Insomnia, but hey.  And what about Molly Quinn for Molly?  She can dye her hair, obviously, and still at the age where she's a blank slate.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 26, 2010, 01:04:31 AM
hatshep are you basing this off of Angel Boreanz or have you watched recent seasons of bones?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 26, 2010, 01:08:42 AM
hatshep are you basing this off of Angel Boreanz or have you watched recent seasons of bones?

Both. I watched "Buffy" and "Angel" and I've seen a few episodes of "Bones," although not many. And even if he wasn't too pretty, his smile, while cute, really isn't Michael's smile.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 26, 2010, 01:13:41 AM
I don't know ever since i came up with it i can't get the idea out of my mind
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 26, 2010, 01:24:28 AM
I don't know ever since i came up with it i can't get the idea out of my mind

I am strongly oppossed but I have certainly found him the hardest to cast and don't even have anyone in mind for him. Eventually I'm going to see someone and go "he's perfect" but in the mean time I just can't approve of anyone I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 26, 2010, 01:47:10 AM
I can see him wielding a sword and having a cross on his chest
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 26, 2010, 02:03:06 AM
I can see him wielding a sword and having a cross on his chest

Oh, I could see him as a Knight of the Cross for sure, like a past Knight or even a theoretical future Knight. Just not Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 26, 2010, 02:05:21 AM
He has the strong jaw
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 26, 2010, 02:08:13 AM
Both. I watched "Buffy" and "Angel" and I've seen a few episodes of "Bones," although not many. And even if he wasn't too pretty, his smile, while cute, really isn't Michael's smile.

Not to mention the recent news that came out about what he was doing while his wife was away. Doesn't instill "trustworthy" in my mind at all. If he was actually more like his character on Bones, Seeley Booth, then I'd say absofreakinglutely. But even just looking at him now just makes me want to shy away. It's like when someone plays an absolutely horrible character and people find that they can't look at the actor the same way anymore, even though in real life, he's incredibly wonderful. They say that it's just a character that he plays, but what happens when the actor's the skeezy one in real life, and his character is the one everyone likes? It goes both ways. Sadly, I am one of those people affected by this. There was always something about Boreanaz I didn't like, and I think it influenced my dislike of Angel. I still like the Seeley Booth character, but when Boreanaz is out of character is when I want to punch him in the face.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Eibhlin on October 26, 2010, 02:14:54 AM
I like Liam Neeson as Michael
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 26, 2010, 02:15:56 AM
What did he do? No don't tell me, errr tell me
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 26, 2010, 03:35:16 AM
Yeah...I hadn't heard about that. Not cool. At least I liked Spike better. Still, that is very sad. I'm affected by what I know about the actors in real life, too.

And Liam Neeson is too old to play Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 26, 2010, 03:36:35 AM
Liam Neeson now why do i know this name
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 26, 2010, 03:45:48 AM
Liam Neeson now why do i know this name

"Rob Roy," Qui-gon in "Phantom Menace," the dad in "Missing" if I'm not mistaken, etc. His wife died recently (as in about a year or two ago) in a skiing accident I believe, also.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 26, 2010, 03:48:39 AM
Tragic i don't know if  qui gon equals Michael though
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on October 26, 2010, 06:37:24 AM
If we could somehow resurrect Michael Landon, buff him up and beard him out, he'd make a perfect Michael. I'll also take a pony while I'm at it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 26, 2010, 12:23:51 PM
Michael doesn't have a pony tail
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on October 26, 2010, 01:02:23 PM
*cuts the tail off his pony and staples it to Michael Landon's hair*

There we go. ...what? It'll grow back, right? Right?

;P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Starbeam on October 26, 2010, 01:04:09 PM
My b/f and I were at Borders over the weekend, and he saw a calendar for Vampire Diaries--pointed at Ian Somerholder(sp?) and said "Thomas."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 26, 2010, 01:16:58 PM
I interrupt this posting forum to announce to everyone that I unofficially declare it Jim Butcher Day! Happy Side Jobs release day, and ON TOP OF THAT, Happy Birthday to Jim Butcher!!!! Yay!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 26, 2010, 01:47:08 PM
I interrupt this posting forum to announce to everyone that I unofficially declare it Jim Butcher Day! Happy Side Jobs release day, and ON TOP OF THAT, Happy Birthday to Jim Butcher!!!! Yay!

Hear, hear!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 26, 2010, 03:15:17 PM
Wait it's his birthday Happy B-day Jim
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 26, 2010, 04:04:54 PM
Another year, another 10¢.  Keep writing, Jim!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 26, 2010, 04:55:00 PM
I have side jobs *throws fists in air* whoop whoop
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 26, 2010, 05:38:47 PM
I have side jobs *throws fists in air* whoop whoop

Congrats! I aught to have it as soon as my dad gets home from work so I'm pretty excited about it myself.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 26, 2010, 07:48:29 PM
Read Love hurt so far has been good
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 26, 2010, 07:57:53 PM
Read Love hurt so far has been good

I will! I can't wait. I got really giddy and excited when I heard about it.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 26, 2010, 08:51:10 PM
Kinda funny but over real quick
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 26, 2010, 09:12:17 PM
*pouts* I hate you all. My book did not come today. I swear, next time I preorder a book from Amazon, I'm ordering it 10 months in advance instead of eight.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 26, 2010, 09:53:05 PM
*pouts* I hate you all. My book did not come today. I swear, next time I preorder a book from Amazon, I'm ordering it 10 months in advance instead of eight.

I'm sorry your book didn't come it today, tiny. I hate it when they don't get stuff to me on time. (If its posters I get totally panicky because I'm just convinced it was in lousy packaging and that it got ran over or something.) Anyway, I hope it comes in soon.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 27, 2010, 12:44:26 AM
*pouts* I hate you all. My book did not come today. I swear, next time I preorder a book from Amazon, I'm ordering it 10 months in advance instead of eight.

*glomps*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 27, 2010, 02:12:02 AM
Hey Tiny, it might not be Amazon - it might be your post office delaying things.
I pre-ordered about a month ago or so and it came in yesterday.
Granted it was on a friend's fancy Amazon but when I ordered Harry Potter years ago, same thing, arrived a day early.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 27, 2010, 02:17:14 AM
when I ordered Harry Potter years ago, same thing, arrived a day early.

You lucky dog!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 27, 2010, 02:17:21 AM
Try to be strong tiny
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on October 27, 2010, 02:27:08 AM
Hey Tiny, it might not be Amazon - it might be your post office delaying things.
I pre-ordered about a month ago or so and it came in yesterday.
Granted it was on a friend's fancy Amazon but when I ordered Harry Potter years ago, same thing, arrived a day early.

*sob* I HATE MY POST OFFICE. AND I WANT MY BOOK.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 27, 2010, 02:29:53 AM
Nothing says give me my book better than a p90
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 27, 2010, 02:56:55 AM
Nothing says give me my book better than a p90

Lol! It seems like everyone but the police feel that way. The wet blankets.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 27, 2010, 03:05:27 AM
Lol! It seems like everyone but the police feel that way. The wet blankets.


LOL and so boring
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ren on October 29, 2010, 06:09:16 PM
Hrmm y'know, I originally had Jeff Bridges for Michael, but he'd make a great Ebenezer too...after his turn as the Bald but Bearded Obidiah Stane in Iron Man I cna relaly see him in the role...

Then I'm back to being stuck on Michael...8P

Hrm...Kris Kristofferson as Ebenezer? he can act and looks great for the part.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 29, 2010, 06:10:13 PM
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on October 29, 2010, 07:40:05 PM
How about James Cosmo for Eb? He played Hamish's father in Braveheart, you know, the berserk warrior father who they had to pull the arrow out of?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0181920/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ren on October 31, 2010, 12:49:59 AM
Hey that's a good one, but can he do an American southern accent?...8)
I was just thinking maybe Harvey Keitel myself.

Also, found a good candidate for Michael, Michael Sheen, played Lucian in underworld...maybe a bit on the creepy side though?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Nero on October 31, 2010, 02:22:43 AM
Does anyone remember Jared Leto from Lord of War? Screams Thomas Raith, both in looks and in character.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 31, 2010, 03:03:26 AM
Also, found a good candidate for Michael, Michael Sheen, played Lucian in underworld...maybe a bit on the creepy side though?

Yes, way too creepy...and kind of gaunt looking. Not tall and broad-shouldered enough to play Michael. He's pretty awesome as Lucian, though, and I'd love to see him get some kind of role in a Dresden movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejm79 on October 31, 2010, 10:10:18 PM
I could totally see Nathan Fillion as Harry and maybe Kristen Bell as Murphy


But here is what I would do. I am addicted to the audio versions of the books and James Marsters totally owns the voice of Harry. So why not do a CGI movie done really well like Animatrix and Beowulf. Then James can do the voice of Harry and then Jim can help make him look like he is suppose to. It would be much easier to create  magical entities and the never-never if it's all CGI.


Either way I think some kind of cinematic version of Dresden would totally rock.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on October 31, 2010, 10:50:17 PM
I could totally see Nathan Fillion as Harry and maybe Kristen Bell as Murphy


But here is what I would do. I am addicted to the audio versions of the books and James Marsters totally owns the voice of Harry. So why not do a CGI movie done really well like Animatrix and Beowulf. Then James can do the voice of Harry and then Jim can help make him look like he is suppose to. It would be much easier to create  magical entities and the never-never if it's all CGI.


Either way I think some kind of cinematic version of Dresden would totally rock.

Give it a few more years to see how the technology progresses. They aren't quite there yet in terms of realism (and honestly I kind of doubt that they will ever reach the level of realism you get from real actors.) If they could though I think that would be pretty neat...give James Marsters a little extra height and any other finishing touches JB recommends and there you have it - the perfect Harry Dresden. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on November 01, 2010, 01:59:09 AM
Heh funny you should say that EJM, I was thinking the same thing recently. I saw the trailer for Tangled, Disney's new Rapunzel movie (which looks great btw) and Zach Levi ("Chuck") is voicing the main character. He sounds almost exactly like I picture Harry sounding... can you picture sounds? Anyway, I digress heh. But, yeah. That's when I started to think mebbe Zach could pull off Harry, but the thought of just forgoing the casting couch and animating it all crossed my mind. After all, I've seen Jim mention he always pictures the books as comics anyway, why not just animate his thoughts? I'd pay $20+ for hour/hour and a half Dresden movies in the style of the Hellboy animated films.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 01, 2010, 03:28:21 AM
Maybe
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejm79 on November 01, 2010, 04:04:31 AM
Maybe Jim could set up a contest and have a bunch of studios try to bring Dresden to life by animating the stroylines from Side Stories. Then if there is a clear winner he could have them bring the entire series to life.

The old scifi show was pretty cool but there was always something missing.....I couldn't quite put my finger on it, but it was lacking some key element.

I think this could kick star the American Anime. Jap-Anime is getting old and after Harry Potter craze the entertainment industry is just drooling for a new magical hero.

If I had the money I would totally bank roll this project
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 01, 2010, 04:05:50 AM
That is a really good idea ejm
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 01, 2010, 06:04:55 PM
Lol. You just can't seem to settle on an icon can you, Grey?  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 01, 2010, 07:34:53 PM
Unfortunately nothing happens until the rights revert to Jim, unless Lionsgate (I believe it is) decides to do something with them.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 01, 2010, 08:00:17 PM
Unfortunately nothing happens until the rights revert to Jim, unless Lionsgate (I believe it is) decides to do something with them.

Which I don't really see happening. :( When does it revert back to JB?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Koriandr on November 01, 2010, 08:30:10 PM
Which I don't really see happening. :( When does it revert back to JB?

Gosh, I wish I remember when in the seminar he said it, but back at Dragon*Con in September, he mentioned that Lionsgate had the rights for a little while longer. He then said it something like, "Two years.... and 8 months.... and 37 days..... not that I'm counting." But I believe it's about 2 years or so. If I find the exact reference, I'll post it. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Orange Krush on November 01, 2010, 09:42:26 PM
I think Nicolas Cage should play one of Toot's guards... He did such a good job with DF TV series.

Toot should be played by Jon Cryer of Two and a half men

John Malkovic playing the Merlin

Voice of Bob would be Jeremy Piven

Winter Knight would be Woody Harrelson

That is all i have for now. 

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 01, 2010, 11:23:41 PM
Gosh, I wish I remember when in the seminar he said it, but back at Dragon*Con in September, he mentioned that Lionsgate had the rights for a little while longer. He then said it something like, "Two years.... and 8 months.... and 37 days..... not that I'm counting." But I believe it's about 2 years or so. If I find the exact reference, I'll post it. :)

Lol! It's great to know he has plans for it.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 02, 2010, 12:35:52 AM
Lol. You just can't seem to settle on an icon can you, Grey?  ;)

Well I was Forest for a while but since halloween I changed to one of my other heroes, Barney Stinson
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on November 02, 2010, 02:24:27 AM
Well I was Forest for a while but since halloween I changed to one of my other heroes, Barney Stinson

A gay man playing a womanizer? Far out. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 02, 2010, 02:27:50 AM
A gay man playing a womanizer? Far out. :D

Exactly
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejm79 on November 02, 2010, 04:09:54 AM
Since someone brought up the Merlin

I think that Ian Mcshane should be the Merlin.......and Robert Duvall should be Ebenezar McCoy

If McShane can refrain from dropping an F-bomb for a few hours I think they could make it work.

The dog from Harry Potter could be Mouse


Maybe instead of wishing about this we should start a fundraiser.... Starting now.... Ending when Jim get the film rights back...... I will pledge $100 every 6 months between now and then..... if someone will get Jim involved and start a legitimate donation site. I know it's not much but it's something.


EJM 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 03, 2010, 02:41:06 AM
I will pledge 100.01 dollars so take that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 03, 2010, 04:35:01 PM
I'd pledge $100.02

:P

wow, we got another for duvall as eb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 04, 2010, 12:47:08 AM
100.03
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 04, 2010, 07:57:22 PM
How about some half-chewed gum and a rubber band? (I'm a little cash shy at the moment.) ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 04, 2010, 09:20:04 PM
How about some half-chewed gum and a rubber band? (I'm a little cash shy at the moment.) ;)

Some lint off the bottom of my pocket and my purse.  I'm even more cash shy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Johannes Dee on November 04, 2010, 09:54:13 PM
Hey, those would be invaluable to MacGyver :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 04, 2010, 10:04:58 PM
How about I pay you with a hundred pounds of hair? (I Know a guy who's been collecting for like 50 years)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 05, 2010, 02:28:46 AM
How about I pay you with a hundred pounds of hair? (I Know a guy who's been collecting for like 50 years)


Ewwwwww, why do I suspect this person also has a fifty year old toe nail collection. :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 05, 2010, 03:00:04 AM
Lol! Threats of what we're willing to plege alone should drum up support from other people just to stop us from donating.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 05, 2010, 04:11:48 AM
Ewwwwww, why do I suspect this person also has a fifty year old toe nail collection. :P

No but I bet you can't guess how much 50 years of earwax is
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 05, 2010, 05:48:12 AM
No but I bet you can't guess how much 50 years of earwax is

I DON'T even want to go there.  YUCK YUCK YUCK
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 05, 2010, 05:50:43 AM
??? gallons yes there is three digits
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 05, 2010, 05:52:14 AM
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 05, 2010, 05:53:15 AM
I think last count was
(click to show/hide)
gallons

Oh yeah and he stores them in this storage place behind the local carwash it is full. he says soon he is just gonna replace his grass with it
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on November 05, 2010, 10:42:01 AM
DUDE.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 05, 2010, 01:08:23 PM
.....



Whatever happened to just casting the perfect person for TDF movie?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 05, 2010, 04:14:14 PM
sorry back on subject Keaneu Reeves for harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 05, 2010, 08:09:44 PM
sorry back on subject Keaneu Reeves for harry

*raises fist and shakes it threateningly at Grey Warden who can't seem to keep his identity straight*

I thought we'd all already agreed on forcibly bleaching Mr. Monotonous' hair blonde and force-casting him as Martin?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 05, 2010, 09:42:55 PM
How about Matt Cohen (aka young John Winchester from Supernatural) as Harry? I have only seen clips from the episodes he was in but he really seems like a Harry Dresden to me. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 05, 2010, 10:00:59 PM
How about Matt Cohen (aka young John Winchester from Supernatural) as Harry? I have only seen clips from the episodes he was in but he really seems like a Harry Dresden to me. Thoughts?

I'd go for that, except Matt is really a lot more ridiculously good looking than Harry's supposed to be.

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:YLbMyrzw1UzEwM:http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNDAyMzAyMjkwMl5BMl5BanBnXkFyZXN1bWU@._V1._SX295_SY400_.jpg&t=1)

I see more Thomas in him than Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 05, 2010, 10:31:50 PM
I'd go for that, except Matt is really a lot more ridiculously good looking than Harry's supposed to be.

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:YLbMyrzw1UzEwM:http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNDAyMzAyMjkwMl5BMl5BanBnXkFyZXN1bWU@._V1._SX295_SY400_.jpg&t=1)

I see more Thomas in him than Harry.

Matt is really good looking, sure...but you cheated by picking such a glammy photo. ;) He's still great looking but with a more down-to-earth appeal in his role in Supernatural. And they could always scruff him up a little by adding some very Dresden-ish bed hair and some 5 o'clock (or, as as frequently the case with Harry, 5 day) shadow.

I'm not sure I could see him as Thomas, even if he played up a glammier look though, because he's got the lean build of Harry and Thomas is supposed to be more Greek god.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 06, 2010, 12:35:21 AM
Matt is really good looking, sure...but you cheated by picking such a glammy photo. ;) He's still great looking but with a more down-to-earth appeal in his role in Supernatural. And they could always scruff him up a little by adding some very Dresden-ish bed hair and some 5 o'clock (or, as as frequently the case with Harry, 5 day) shadow.

I'm not sure I could see him as Thomas, even if he played up a glammier look though, because he's got the lean build of Harry and Thomas is supposed to be more Greek god.

*giggle* At least Thomas doesn't sparkle. We'd have a REAL problem, then.

And yeah, I guess I could see that... not really sure how I feel about Matt playing him, though. Younger Harry, before he kept getting his face smashed in my creatures that he keeps pissing off, yeah, definitely.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 06, 2010, 04:37:15 AM
*giggle* At least Thomas doesn't sparkle. We'd have a REAL problem, then.

Lol! Don't get either of us started. ;)

And yeah, I guess I could see that... not really sure how I feel about Matt playing him, though. Younger Harry, before he kept getting his face smashed in my creatures that he keeps pissing off, yeah, definitely.

Yeah, I'm picturing starting the Dresden movies at Storm Front with Harry as a reasonably young and unsmashed wizard detective. Which, as much as I hate admiting it, means that James Marsters might not work as perfectly as I would really, really like to believe. He sure doesn't look 48 (can you believe he's 48?) but I have to reluctantly admit he doesn't really look 23ish either, which is what I imagine the movie Harrry should be.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 06, 2010, 06:56:19 AM
*giggle* At least Thomas doesn't sparkle. We'd have a REAL problem, then.

And yeah, I guess I could see that... not really sure how I feel about Matt playing him, though. Younger Harry, before he kept getting his face smashed in my creatures that he keeps pissing off, yeah, definitely.

Oh dear, what if Thomas had shown up to Ortega's duel all "sparkly" it would have put a whole NEW spin on that scene.
I don't know that anybody other than Ortega and Harry would have been able to keep a straight face.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on November 06, 2010, 08:03:59 AM
OK so not the exact physical description - but Karl Urban. My god those eyes! they're just so intense. oh and he's a kiwi  :P

(http://horiwood.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/karl-urban-red.jpg)  *swoon*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on November 06, 2010, 11:32:00 AM
sorry back on subject Keaneu Reeves for harry

Look down. See the red dot on the tip of your nose.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 06, 2010, 12:49:54 PM
Oh dear, what if Thomas had shown up to Ortega's duel all "sparkly" it would have put a whole NEW spin on that scene.
I don't know that anybody other than Ortega and Harry would have been able to keep a straight face.

OMG

*falls off of couch*

bahahahahaha
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 06, 2010, 12:51:38 PM
Look down. See the red dot on the tip of your nose.

He can't see it, but there's another on his forehead.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 06, 2010, 12:52:38 PM
OK so not the exact physical description - but Karl Urban. My god those eyes! they're just so intense. oh and he's a kiwi  :P

(http://horiwood.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/karl-urban-red.jpg)  *swoon*

RAWR ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 06, 2010, 03:59:58 PM
OK so not the exact physical description - but Karl Urban. My god those eyes! they're just so intense. oh and he's a kiwi  :P
*swoon*

I'm not sure he works as Harry for me but I bet you'd have my sister's support - she's been in love with him ever since "Red."  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 07, 2010, 02:16:10 AM
I'm not sure he works as Harry for me but I bet you'd have my sister's support - she's been in love with him ever since "Red."  :)

Heck, I've liked him ever since LOTR.
By the by, instead of Harry - how about Tilly the FBI guy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 07, 2010, 03:11:00 AM
Look down. See the red dot on the tip of your nose.

Oops

He can't see it, but there's another on his forehead.

*looks up* where

I really was just joking to beg for forgiveness on that hole disgusting fiasco. How about Toby McGuire for Harry

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 07, 2010, 03:15:10 AM
Heck, I've liked him ever since LOTR.
By the by, instead of Harry - how about Tilly the FBI guy?

Hey, that could really work. I like it!

I really was just joking to beg for forgiveness on that hole disgusting fiasco. How about Toby McGuire for Harry

Haha, very funny. Toby as Harry is worse than Kianu as Harry in my opinion. (Hint: if you're looking for my forgiveness try Jared Padalecki, James Marsters, or Matt Cohen.)  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 07, 2010, 03:18:23 AM
HOW about Jared I like him in Supernatural, or maybe Misha
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 07, 2010, 03:53:40 AM
HOW about Jared I like him in Supernatural, or maybe Misha

Forgiven!  ;D Seriously though, I think he'd make a great Harry. Dean may get the more Harry-esque lines in the show but there are moments when you can see what a smartmouth Jared has. And in some of those interviews he's just hilarious.

As for Misha, love him to death but, even in interviews, he's always a little too quiet of a wiseass to play the overtly,constantly, only-not-a-wiseass-when-he's-asleep Harry Dresden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 07, 2010, 03:58:01 AM
Are we to trust harry. First he is asked if he is ever not a wiseass. He says only in his sleep. Then he says he utters off color limericks in his sleep. Are we to trust harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 07, 2010, 04:13:48 AM
Are we to trust harry. First he is asked if he is ever not a wiseass. He says only in his sleep. Then he says he utters off color limericks in his sleep. Are we to trust harry.

Maybe he justifies the off-color limerick thing as just annoying and not being a wiseass because its not in response to someone else. Kind of a loop-whole but still...Harry isn't exactly above that.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 07, 2010, 04:17:28 AM
Maybe he justifies the off-color limerick thing as just annoying and not being a wiseass because its not in response to someone else. Kind of a loop-whole but still...Harry isn't exactly above that.  ;)

FIFY

maybe hatshep maybe
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on November 08, 2010, 06:12:35 AM
mischa collins I could actually see as harry, he can do grouchy and has a wizardy sort of voice. Might require a different sort of comedic timing than you see with castiel though. Remember, Harry is cool because he is also a total dork Mischa seems more suited to play the straight cool guy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 08, 2010, 06:24:51 AM
yeah
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 08, 2010, 01:37:56 PM
mischa collins I could actually see as harry, he can do grouchy and has a wizardy sort of voice. Might require a different sort of comedic timing than you see with castiel though. Remember, Harry is cool because he is also a total dork Mischa seems more suited to play the straight cool guy.

Are you kidding?

Seriously, are you?

Misha Collins is probably one of the funniest people on the planet because he does dead pan humor. He's a complete dork. He doesn't act it all the time, but he is one of the few actors I love who would be absolutely perfect for Harry. Not even kidding, go to his Twitter (@mishacollins) and read some of the stuff he puts up. He talks about everything from President Obama needing his help for foreign policy, to Queen Elizabeth wanting to behead him, to having to hide in an underground bunker with only a pony for food. (not seriously, thank God, but it was hilarious the first time I read it).

And then, just to round it off, go look up some videos of him at the Supernatural conventions (just to name a few, Supernatural cons are usually shortened by the name of the con and the city, plus the annual number of the convention -- for instance, JIB-Con Spain 5. JIB stands for one of the episode titles, Jus In Bello, Asylum 5, All Hell Breaks Loose, AHBL -- actually, I still don't know what that one stands for, but you get the idea.)

He plays the incredibly serious Castiel (and he explains it in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPaGD9zlnc) because the mytharc behind Cas is that, his true form makes people's eyes bleed, and the true sound of his voice could make your head explode -- and more recently, he informed everyone in character that his true form is also as big as the Chrysler Building -- ergo, it seemed only right to make Cas' voice sound deep and gravelly.

He's just too short :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 08, 2010, 05:25:56 PM
Wow that was an incredibly long goose chase TbF
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on November 08, 2010, 05:57:17 PM
Oops

*looks up* where

I really was just joking to beg for forgiveness on that hole disgusting fiasco. How about Toby McGuire for Harry



With all those red laser dots sprouting up all over you, you're starting to look like you have chicken pox.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 08, 2010, 06:27:49 PM
*Considers saying Scorpio*

We need Karl Urban in a large role.  Period.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on November 08, 2010, 06:48:54 PM
*Considers saying Scorpio*

We need Karl Urban in a large role.  Period.

I could see him as Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 08, 2010, 06:49:25 PM
Nah, that's Christian Kane
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 08, 2010, 07:57:51 PM
Nah, that's Christian Kane

You mean Josh Holloway. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 08, 2010, 09:41:33 PM
You mean Josh Holloway. ;)

I'm happy with a melding of the two. Holloway actually looks more like Kincaid than I think CK does, but CK has the in your face I'll-Torch-You-If-You-Blink bad-assery :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 08, 2010, 09:42:49 PM
Wow that was an incredibly long goose chase TbF

Do you see my icon? Can you tell who two of my favorite actors are, ever? I take my Misha Collins facts very seriously.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 08, 2010, 10:14:05 PM
Do you see my icon? Can you tell who two of my favorite actors are, ever? I take my Misha Collins facts very seriously.

What, no love for my Sammy?  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 09, 2010, 12:02:21 AM
What, no love for my Sammy?  ;D

LOL, I love Sam. Unfortunately, Jared was not being interviewed on the carpet with Jim Beaver and Misha Collins when Jensen snuck up on them both and gave them kisses on the cheek. I found this icon somewhere, and since I'm a Dean/Cas shipper (which is so wrong on so many levels but DAMMIT I LOVE IT), I hijacked it and made it mind.

Plussss, it would've been kinda awkward if Jared was in the picture WITH them O.o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 09, 2010, 12:31:02 AM
LOL, I love Sam. Unfortunately, Jared was not being interviewed on the carpet with Jim Beaver and Misha Collins when Jensen snuck up on them both and gave them kisses on the cheek. I found this icon somewhere, and since I'm a Dean/Cas shipper (which is so wrong on so many levels but DAMMIT I LOVE IT), I hijacked it and made it mind.

Plussss, it would've been kinda awkward if Jared was in the picture WITH them O.o

A Dean/Cas shipper? Oh, God. At least you're not a "Wincest" shipper. That is just even more wrong on so many more levels, if there is anything more wrong than that. And moving on. I'm decidedly a Sam girl but Dean and Castiel are awesome and oh-so-sexy, too.

It's funny - my sister started out as a Sam girl and me as a Dean girl but I fell head-over-heels for Sam after he went psycic and I found out that he
(click to show/hide)
(for some reason I just found that really, really, hot) and my sister fell for Dean when he
(click to show/hide)
at the end of season 2. Something has got to be wrong with us that we found that stuff extra sexy but we simply couldn't help it. I'm afraid guys with dark secrets are a major guilty pleasure for me. But I think a lot of girls are like that.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 09, 2010, 01:10:48 AM
Crazy trains
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 09, 2010, 01:56:50 AM
A Dean/Cas shipper? Oh, God. At least you're not a "Wincest" shipper. That is just even more wrong on so many more levels, if there is anything more wrong than that. And moving on. I'm decidedly a Sam girl but Dean and Castiel are awesome and oh-so-sexy, too.

It's funny - my sister started out as a Sam girl and me as a Dean girl but I fell head-over-heels for Sam after he went psycic and I found out that he
(click to show/hide)
(for some reason I just found that really, really, hot) and my sister fell for Dean when he
(click to show/hide)
at the end of season 2. Something has got to be wrong with us that we found that stuff extra sexy but we simply couldn't help it. I'm afraid guys with dark secrets are a major guilty pleasure for me. But I think a lot of girls are like that.  ;)

Yeah, I know. Trust me, I know.

Also, it's because you have Evil!Vampire!Spike!Love.

I have Funny!Badass!Spike!Love, which is why I'm a Dean girl.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 09, 2010, 01:59:20 AM
*raises hand* I'm not a girl
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 09, 2010, 02:39:39 AM
Yeah, I know. Trust me, I know.

Also, it's because you have Evil!Vampire!Spike!Love.

I have Funny!Badass!Spike!Love, which is why I'm a Dean girl.

That's the funny thing - its the last season side of Spike that I'm in love with. I don't know...maybe its the combination of their noble side with the danger that really does it for me. *sighs* *snaps self out of hot daydreams* That's true - Spike is such a beautifully complicated character that I can certainly see how his fans to could gravitate to either Sam or Dean equally well, depending on what about him they found most appealing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Orange Krush on November 09, 2010, 03:05:46 AM
I have always pictured Butters as a Gene Kelly sort...
(http://static.paulsmith.co.uk/images/width730/genekelly-14247.jpg)
Not so much helmet haired, of course.



Good call on Gene Kelly... I picture Jon Cryer of two and a half men as Butters or Toot.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 09, 2010, 06:34:32 AM
No he is not butters  ???
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 09, 2010, 01:31:00 PM
That's the funny thing - its the last season side of Spike that I'm in love with. I don't know...maybe its the combination of their noble side with the danger that really does it for me. *sighs* *snaps self out of hot daydreams* That's true - Spike is such a beautifully complicated character that I can certainly see how his fans to could gravitate to either Sam or Dean equally well, depending on what about him they found most appealing.

Which is why me and my beta are in the process of creating a Buffy/SPN crossover event. Sam, Dean and Spike are almost essentially the same person, and get along very easily. It's sweet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 09, 2010, 01:33:33 PM
I still see Justin Long as Butters.

Jon Cryer as Toot -- yeah, I can see it :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 09, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
Which is why me and my beta are in the process of creating a Buffy/SPN crossover event. Sam, Dean and Spike are almost essentially the same person, and get along very easily. It's sweet.

They would waste Spike faster than Buffy. Right away in fact.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 09, 2010, 04:55:03 PM
Which is why me and my beta are in the process of creating a Buffy/SPN crossover event. Sam, Dean and Spike are almost essentially the same person, and get along very easily. It's sweet.

Ooh, their interactions would be hilarious. Sounds epic! Send me a link when you finish it - I can't garentee I'll be able to read it right away but school work permitting I'd love to read it.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 09, 2010, 06:42:18 PM
Ooh, their interactions would be hilarious. Sounds epic! Send me a link when you finish it - I can't garentee I'll be able to read it right away but school work permitting I'd love to read it.  ;D

*sigh* I would read it too
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 09, 2010, 06:49:39 PM
You mean Josh Holloway. ;)

No I mean Christian Kane.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 09, 2010, 06:51:21 PM
No I mean Christian Kane.

Hrmph.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 09, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
Not my fault CK fits better than JH.  In fact, to give it an order I'd say CK, KU, .................. AH, JH
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 09, 2010, 08:10:57 PM
Christian Bell  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 09, 2010, 10:14:34 PM
Christian Bell  ;)

As Kincaid? Hehe. Would be a better fit than if she played Murphy, I guess. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 09, 2010, 11:09:57 PM
Huh?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 09, 2010, 11:13:21 PM
Huh?

Maybe a little exaggerated, lol. I just can't stand the idea of squeeky-voice Kristen Bell playing Murphy. Murph may be short and she may have a cute button nose but she's got a real cop voice at her command when she needs it. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 09, 2010, 11:15:53 PM
No the guy who plays the new batman
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 09, 2010, 11:34:59 PM
No the guy who plays the new batman

Oh!!!! Christian BALE. You typoed "Bell" and then I misread the first name as "Kristen" instead of "Christian." My bad - I thought you were being sarcastic again. ;) Lol! And sorry, I hate Christian Bale. I know he's kind of popular right now and one of my friends really loves him but I just can't stand him. I don't like his acting at all. (And I've had a love affair with John Connor since I first watched the Terminator and T2 at about 11 years old so I was really bitter when they cast him as John Connor.) Anyway, I'll stop ranting now. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 10, 2010, 12:05:02 AM
I thought he made a good John Conner. Terminate this  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 10, 2010, 01:20:21 AM
I thought he made a good John Conner. Terminate this  ;)

Guess I'll be giving my assassin friends a call then. That hit is so back on! ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 10, 2010, 01:27:57 AM
Good i wouldn't feel safe if I wasn't in danger
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 10, 2010, 01:33:45 AM
They would waste Spike faster than Buffy. Right away in fact.

..... Yeah.

That would be why it's AU.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 10, 2010, 01:34:32 AM
What you're changing them?  >:( :( >:( :(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 10, 2010, 01:43:37 AM
Ooh, their interactions would be hilarious. Sounds epic! Send me a link when you finish it - I can't garentee I'll be able to read it right away but school work permitting I'd love to read it.  ;D

LOL, sure thing. Actually hafta finish the sucker first :)

I do have a link to my LJ for a couple of short stories my beta and I wrote to kinda prepare for the full length fic. And I have links to the crossover fics she's written that I've betaed :) PM me, I'll send them to you :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 10, 2010, 01:44:59 AM
*sigh* I would read it too

Um. Thanks for deigning to admit that?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 10, 2010, 01:45:51 AM
Um. Thanks for deigning to admit that?

Gracias
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 10, 2010, 01:55:18 AM
Um. Thanks for deigning to admit that?

LOL!!! Nothing like a little warm enthusiasm.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 10, 2010, 03:29:46 AM
Few Sarcasm avoided
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 10, 2010, 04:03:31 AM
Few Sarcasm avoided

We've noticed. ;)

Can't decide on a name, huh? Just earlier I noticed you were back to one of your old names and now you've gone and changed it again. Shame on you...we have to go by sarcasm instead of name now to figure out who you really are.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 10, 2010, 04:07:00 AM
Naw I still go by GW I changed my name as a Joke to make fun of Chiro
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 10, 2010, 02:13:30 PM
Naw I still go by GW I changed my name as a Joke to make fun of Chiro

Ah. Good to know.  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 10, 2010, 10:18:08 PM
Yep
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 11, 2010, 05:08:28 PM
Sry, Christian Bale is not allowed anywhere NEAR this movie.  I tried 3:10 to Yuma and the best part was Charlie Prince and Doc Potter (Ben Foster and Alan Tudyk).  Crow and Bale were as wooden as Bale's leg was supposed to be.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 11, 2010, 05:58:14 PM
How about Daniel Radcliff as Harry , he already plays a wizard named harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 11, 2010, 07:32:50 PM
How about Daniel Radcliff as Harry , he already plays a wizard named harry

Oh, but he wouldn't want to get type-cast. I mean, how many more wizards named Harry could there be? ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 11, 2010, 07:33:35 PM
But I guess he could always branch out and play Harry the, ah, lizard. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 11, 2010, 08:47:52 PM
Yeah appear like 2 sec into the first movie and then never again
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 12, 2010, 03:31:07 AM
Yeah appear like 2 sec into the first movie and then never again

Oh, I was thinking more like a spin-off tv show of his own or something. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 12, 2010, 09:18:12 PM
Oh, I was thinking more like a spin-off tv show of his own or something. ;)

Pure Genuis
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MizSeri on November 17, 2010, 01:47:36 AM
Kudos to anyone and everyone who said Rosario Dawson would make a good Susan. I have pictured her as Susan since Storm Front.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 17, 2010, 02:17:10 AM
The Dad in the TV show Raising Hope would make a good Nic. Now bear with me I have good reasons, he played a very creepy Simon in Burn Notice. Watch an episode with him in it and he is awesome. Watch any Burn Notice episode in fact. Love it Live it die by it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 17, 2010, 02:09:33 PM
Kudos to anyone and everyone who said Rosario Dawson would make a good Susan. I have pictured her as Susan since Storm Front.

No kidding! I hadn't thought of her before but she makes an awesome Susan.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 17, 2010, 03:44:31 PM
EH
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 17, 2010, 06:15:12 PM
Rosario Dawson: (http://talkbudgies.com/images/newsmilies/love-smiley-015.gif)

I still like Monica Raymund for Susan
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 17, 2010, 11:22:40 PM
Rosario Dawson: (http://talkbudgies.com/images/newsmilies/love-smiley-015.gif)

LOL!  :D

I still like Monica Raymund for Susan

She's very pretty but she's got more of a jaw than I picture for Susan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 17, 2010, 11:24:57 PM
I like Rachael McAdams
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 18, 2010, 04:26:06 AM
I like Rachael McAdams

In general or as Susan? She's so not ethnic that it simply couldn't work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 18, 2010, 04:31:41 AM
racist *snickers*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 19, 2010, 05:52:19 PM
LOL!  :D


What?  I think Rosario Dawson is hot.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 19, 2010, 08:55:57 PM
We got it
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 20, 2010, 04:05:40 AM
racist *snickers*

Oh God, let's not get started on this again. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 20, 2010, 04:09:43 AM
*headdesk* THUD.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 20, 2010, 04:23:25 AM
Ha
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: justafan2 on November 20, 2010, 08:55:30 AM
Anybody else see Patrick Warburton as Michael?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 20, 2010, 04:34:20 PM
Anybody else see Patrick Warburton as Michael?

He has the size but I'm not so sure of his facial features.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 20, 2010, 05:33:53 PM
He has the size but I'm not so sure of his facial features.

RIDE, RIDE, RIDE SALLY RIDE.

I'm sorry. I saw what you changed your profile name to, and I couldn't resist.

Patrick Warburton could do it, but the problem is that everytime I hear his voice, I start hearing Joe from Family Guy, or Brock Samson from the The Venture Bros, or the Big Bad Wolf from Hoodwinked, or Kronk from The Emperor's New Groove.

I don't think I'd be able to take him seriously as Michael :(

Besides, when I think of Michael, I think of him as a soft-spoken man, like Harry is, just less sarcastic.

If you guys haven't read Aftermath from Side Jobs, Murphy's description of Harry goes along the lines of this:

"Aftermath," Side Jobs, page 352
Quote
(click to show/hide)

With deference to a few lines, Murphy might as well also be talking about Michael in the early days, before SmF. He stands confident, is only a few inches shorter than Harry, with a blockier build, he meets people's gazes head on -- find some footage somewhere of a construction foreman working. You might see exactly the sort of person Michael's build coincides with. Also, as Harry is somewhere around 6'7 to 6'9, Michael could be anywhere from 6'0 to 6'5.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 20, 2010, 08:55:28 PM
Yes! Love, love, LOVE that discription. And I completley agree about Michael. He's my favorite character from DF and one of my favorite characters period. His casting has just got to be perfect and so far I haven't seen anybody who could begin to pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 20, 2010, 09:36:05 PM
I think definitely for harry we should have someone who doesn't look grumpy, who isn't grumpy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 20, 2010, 10:12:18 PM
I think definitely for harry we should have someone who doesn't look grumpy, who isn't grumpy.

Agreed. Harry makes the best of his bad luck/sucky judgement/obnoxious people skills that are always getting him into trouble. He has every reason to have a bad attitude a lot of times but the worst attitude he can muster is the occasional false indignation towards Mister for owning him. 9 times out of 10 he'll respond with a joke and the 1 time he doesn't he's kind of lost it and is way beyond grumpy. So yeah, I'm with "Sun Tzu/whatever his name is lately" - no grumpy Harry allowed. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 21, 2010, 02:51:37 AM
By the way, has anyone in the States seen the latest issue of People Magazine?

Ryan Reynolds has been named Sexiest Man Alive.

He's officially 2010's sexiest man alive.

Which means he's officially out of the running for Harry, because no one would want to see the sexiest man alive with a broken nose and two black eyes :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 21, 2010, 02:55:31 AM
Yes! Love, love, LOVE that discription. And I completley agree about Michael. He's my favorite character from DF and one of my favorite characters period. His casting has just got to be perfect and so far I haven't seen anybody who could begin to pull it off.

I still see Viggo Mortensen as a wonderful Michael. Purely based on how he played the character of Aragorn in the Lord of The Rings, I would lose my mind if he played Michael because he seems so perfect for the role.

Side issue -- for some reason, Charity's words from SmF kept running through my head today: "His heart. They hurt his heart." I've been kinda depressed all day :(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 21, 2010, 04:49:32 AM
I still see Viggo Mortensen as a wonderful Michael. Purely based on how he played the character of Aragorn in the Lord of The Rings, I would lose my mind if he played Michael because he seems so perfect for the role.

Side issue -- for some reason, Charity's words from SmF kept running through my head today: "His heart. They hurt his heart." I've been kinda depressed all day :(

Hmm...not sure he looks quite right for the part, gorgeous though he is. I just kind of picture him different. Still, he is certainly the best match suggested so far and his aura, if you will, is dead on.

That is a depressing quote! I know how stuff like that can color your day a little. Sad songs get stuck in my head all the time (today it was "Time Isn't Healing" by Tom Felton and yesterday it was "Hands Clean" by Alanis Morissette) and they stick with you all day. Sometimes they're depressing and other times they are just kind of theraputic but for some reason they always seem to hang on.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 21, 2010, 04:59:44 AM
Do you suffer from SAD Hatshepsut/Tiny but Fierce?
It's a season disorder caused by the waning of the light in fall and winter.
I get bouts of it.

Re: Viggo.  Yeah, he's got the intensity for Michael but not nearly the size.
Michael is a burly kind of guy.  You look at medieval armor and while the guys might have been short they were usually pretty bulky through the chest and arms.  Comes of wielding several pounds of sharp sword.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 21, 2010, 05:38:10 AM
Do you suffer from SAD Hatshepsut/Tiny but Fierce?
It's a season disorder caused by the waning of the light in fall and winter.
I get bouts of it.

Re: Viggo.  Yeah, he's got the intensity for Michael but not nearly the size.
Michael is a burly kind of guy.  You look at medieval armor and while the guys might have been short they were usually pretty bulky through the chest and arms.  Comes of wielding several pounds of sharp sword.

Okay, maybe it hits me a little. I don't feel truly sad all that often but I regularly get this kind of, I guess, somber feeling sometimes, which is so not like me. I kind of like it though, which is wierd. I love writing and I empathize with my characters a lot and I really enjoy that. So maybe this is just some sort of "seasonal empathy." If that makes any sense at all. ;)

As for Michael, yes! You have explained exactly what I meant when I said I picture him different. And maybe that's part of why I find his character so attractive, in addition to just being one of the most awesome characters period. Honestly, a nice chest really turns me on...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 21, 2010, 07:01:07 AM
By the way, has anyone in the States seen the latest issue of People Magazine?

Ryan Reynolds has been named Sexiest Man Alive.

He's officially 2010's sexiest man alive.

Which means he's officially out of the running for Harry, because no one would want to see the sexiest man alive with a broken nose and two black eyes :-\

But but he can be thomas
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 21, 2010, 02:40:10 PM
But but he can be thomas

And I still have Matt Bomer reserved for Thomas. Sorry, whatever-your-name-is-today.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 21, 2010, 02:43:08 PM
Do you suffer from SAD Hatshepsut/Tiny but Fierce?
It's a season disorder caused by the waning of the light in fall and winter.
I get bouts of it.

Re: Viggo.  Yeah, he's got the intensity for Michael but not nearly the size.
Michael is a burly kind of guy.  You look at medieval armor and while the guys might have been short they were usually pretty bulky through the chest and arms.  Comes of wielding several pounds of sharp sword.

I dunno :) Usually I'm pretty kicky during this time of the year. I enjoy it. But yesterday, I was just depressed.

Very true. Unfortunately, I can't think of anyone else besides Viggo and Nathan Fillion to fill the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: justafan2 on November 21, 2010, 06:57:09 PM
[snip]Patrick Warburton could do it, but the problem is that everytime I hear his voice, I start hearing Joe from Family Guy, or Brock Samson from the The Venture Bros, or the Big Bad Wolf from Hoodwinked, or Kronk from The Emperor's New Groove.[/snip]


I kind of see him as a little bit Brock Samson. More piety and less cartoony, of course.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 21, 2010, 09:29:22 PM
I dunno :) Usually I'm pretty kicky during this time of the year. I enjoy it. But yesterday, I was just depressed.

Very true. Unfortunately, I can't think of anyone else besides Viggo and Nathan Fillion to fill the role.

I think it was Shecky that suggested the actor from Due South - Paul Gros - and I concur.
He has the size and he has a very open and honest face, he also has the acting chops.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 21, 2010, 10:19:34 PM
As for Ryan Reynolds as Thomas, I just can't see it. He just seems too nice-guy and no way he could pull off that predatory sex appeal that is Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 22, 2010, 02:45:20 AM
As for Ryan Reynolds as Thomas, I just can't see it. He just seems too nice-guy and no way he could pull off that predatory sex appeal that is Thomas.

No, I agree with that.  Ryan Reynolds while very good looking is not, to use Harry's words, "a predatory angel".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 22, 2010, 04:30:29 AM
But Thomas isn't really on the prowl all  the time though
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 22, 2010, 05:12:56 AM
"Predatory angel." Yep, Snowleopard - gotta love that description. ;)

But Thomas isn't really on the prowl all  the time though

True, he isn't always but he is often enough that the actor has to be able to pull that part of him off brilliantly. Ryan Reynolds is sexy - but for none of the same reasons and in none of the same ways that Thomas is.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 22, 2010, 05:33:36 AM
But Thomas isn't really on the prowl all  the time though

It doesn't matter if Thomas is always on the prowl, or never on the prowl. It has nothing to do with what his thoughts are -- it's his entire being. It's what makes him a vampire of the White Court, an incubus. The demon inside him resonates through every inch of Thomas' body, and everyone within a ten foot radius of Thomas will react to it, whether he's hunting them or not. You've read some of Harry's descriptions of what happens when Thomas walks in front of people when he isn't paying attention -- men, women, they all turn around and watch him, and follow him with their eyes. Thomas could be completely lost in his own thoughts and have a parade of people walking behind him because he can't even have a shot to turn down the "come hither, and make with the go-thither" (to borrow a turn of phrase from Harry).

Snowleopard and Hatshep are smack on the money with the term "predatory angel." Thomas is supposed to be so utterly divine in his looks and aura that only people who know what he is would be aware of themselves enough to back off. And in my eyes, Ryan Reynolds, though awesomely sexy, cannot pull it off.

Also, it's not just a matter of finding someone with the right looks to portray Thomas. In my opinion, you have to find someone who is willing to go into the same mindframe as the man. He loves life, he loves his parties, he loves Justine, he loves Harry -- he hates his father, but he's loyal to his sisters and would go to any lengths to protect them; he's a known layabout, but he's also a secret agent of the Venatori; he's vain, arrogant, charming and entirely too flippant, but he's also one of the only known White Court vampires that has known love, and feels guilt over what his Hunger can do to the people he's around.

You have to look for someone whose eyes will convey the daily circle of happiness and torture that Thomas goes through. For me, that person is Matt Bomer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 22, 2010, 05:36:25 AM
 :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: oudyn on November 26, 2010, 06:51:18 AM
how about Vin Diesel (with hair) as Kincaid
Naa not vin diesel. In my mind kinkaid is smaller. More built for speed rather than power. Someone more like jason statham but a lil smaller. And since he's a minor role they would cast someone new that just fits the profile
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 27, 2010, 04:13:30 AM
Straham would be perfect for kincaid

How about Tom cruise for Nicademous
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 27, 2010, 04:21:53 PM
Straham would be perfect for kincaid

How about Tom cruise for Nicademous

I thought we established that Tom Cruise can't touch this movie?  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 27, 2010, 06:30:42 PM
I thought they didn't want him for harry but he would make a awesome Nic
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 27, 2010, 07:47:27 PM
I thought they didn't want him for harry but he would make a awesome Nic

Nah. He was great in "Top Gun" and "Knight & Day" but I don't think he is a good actor in general - those were just good fits for him. I don't want him to play such an important role in Dresden since I don't really think he's got the acting chops.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 28, 2010, 02:24:26 AM
Nah. He was great in "Top Gun" and "Knight & Day" but I don't think he is a good actor in general - those were just good fits for him. I don't want him to play such an important role in Dresden since I don't really think he's got the acting chops.

Yeah, verily yeah.  The man does NOT have the acting chops for a real serious role.
To borrow from Harry D. - Hell no - when it comes to playing Harry and he's not pretty enough for Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 28, 2010, 03:13:25 AM
I notice you didn't say no to Nic
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 28, 2010, 03:16:11 AM
I notice you didn't say no to Nic

Tom Cruise does NOT nor will he ever have the chops to pull off Nic.
There, I've said NO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 28, 2010, 03:17:20 AM
I notice you didn't say no to Michael
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 28, 2010, 03:21:01 AM
I notice you didn't say no to Michael

Tom Cruise should have absolutely NOTHING to do with a Dresden Files movie
in any way shape or form.
There - said NO.
I'm off, have a good evening.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 28, 2010, 03:23:18 AM
Yeah Have a good evening I will find good casting choices
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tiny[but]fierce on November 28, 2010, 05:26:15 AM
I thought we established that Tom Cruise can't touch this movie?  ;)

We did. Apparently GW needs a refresher every now and then.

NO TOM CRUISE. NO TOM CRUISE. NO TOM CRUISE.

Just repeat this to yourself every time you're about to make this suggestion, GW. We let him near this movie, he's gonna take over it and start making "suggestions". Harry Dresden the Wizard will end up turning into a magical version of Ethan whatshisface from Mission Impossible.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 28, 2010, 05:19:13 PM
We did. Apparently GW needs a refresher every now and then.

NO TOM CRUISE. NO TOM CRUISE. NO TOM CRUISE.

Just repeat this to yourself every time you're about to make this suggestion, GW. We let him near this movie, he's gonna take over it and start making "suggestions". Harry Dresden the Wizard will end up turning into a magical version of Ethan whatshisface from Mission Impossible.

LOL! That does tend to be what happens when he gets a role. Or maybe he only accepts roles like that. Or maybe they only offer him roles like that. Regarless, we don't want to risk that happening to Harry. Harry is a lot of things but suave superspy he is not. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 28, 2010, 05:38:28 PM
LOL! That does tend to be what happens when he gets a role. Or maybe he only accepts roles like that. Or maybe they only offer him roles like that. Regarless, we don't want to risk that happening to Harry. Harry is a lot of things but suave superspy he is not. ;)

Harry SUAVE!!!!  Not hardly.  Snicker, tee hee.  Just check out "Day Off".  ROTFLMAO

As for Tom Cruise - when a major studio lets an actor go publicly - even if they've made relatively good money for them then there is something seriously wrong somewhere. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 28, 2010, 07:52:02 PM
Harry SUAVE!!!!  Not hardly.  Snicker, tee hee.  Just check out "Day Off".  ROTFLMAO 

Yeah, wasnt exactly Harry's best day. (Which days are, anyway?) ;)

As for Tom Cruise - when a major studio lets an actor go publicly - even if they've made relatively good money for them then there is something seriously wrong somewhere. 

Agreed! Like I said, I loved "Knight & Day" but I really don't think much of him personally or as an actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 29, 2010, 03:39:12 AM
Ha Ha Ha

How about NPH for Thomas
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 29, 2010, 05:53:52 AM
Ha Ha Ha

How about NPH for Thomas

You just like poking a hornet's nest to see what happens don't ya??? ;D

As for Nic.  Too bad we couldn't get either Michael Ironsides or Richard Lynch in their heydays - they'd, either one, make extremely menacing Nics.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 29, 2010, 03:49:03 PM
Ha Ha Ha

How about NPH for Thomas

No.  End of story.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 30, 2010, 03:17:23 AM
I was actually serious about NPH he would make a great Thomas, he could transfer his barney credits
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 30, 2010, 03:21:17 AM
The air may soon be filled with upset hornets. ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 30, 2010, 03:30:11 AM
Why?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 30, 2010, 04:27:47 AM
Why?

Are you kidding? He's hilarious as I'll get out but he's endearing at best, never truly charming. And not horrible looking (no pun intended) but way not angelic/Greek godlike. No one would ever describe him as a "predatory angel," as I believe Harry has in some book or other. So sorry, but no way.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 30, 2010, 04:34:41 AM
You have to sacrifice some thing to get others I know this is "Perfect Casting" but you will never get that perfect person you will have to settle. The thing that is great about NPH is that he can be sweet but he can be devious and put on a brave face. Talk about flexability
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 30, 2010, 05:08:32 AM
You have to sacrifice some thing to get others I know this is "Perfect Casting" but you will never get that perfect person you will have to settle. The thing that is great about NPH is that he can be sweet but he can be devious and put on a brave face. Talk about flexability

Eh. I realize that finding the Thomas I visualize is going to be impossible but I still can't accept NPH. Given who Thomas is, the actor we choose should make me have to struggle really hard not to lust and NPH doesn't do that. Matt Bomer does that...but he doesn't look exactly like Thomas looks in my head. I can make the sacrifce for exact appearance easier, though, than I can accept someone who lacks that innate sexual magnetism that is so essential.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 30, 2010, 05:32:57 AM
They will pay people to be magnetized to him. Besides I only see there being 5 or 6 movies for the first 12 books
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on November 30, 2010, 12:46:23 PM
They will pay people to be magnetized to him. Besides I only see there being 5 or 6 movies for the first 12 books

They can with the people in the movie but that won't make me want him. And if all of the straight females in the audience don't want him then the casting just isn't right. And, even if there aren't that many movies, I still couldn't take poor casting. (Hey, I got bitter over the poor casting in Eragon and I didn't even read the books.) ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 30, 2010, 01:18:07 PM
Read them NOW! but that's not what I meant what I meant was that there are lots of girls attracted to NPH despite the fact that he is gay
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 30, 2010, 04:27:26 PM
GW, sometimes Hollyweird does casting against type but NOT in this kind of situation.
He's NOT Thomas, not now not ever.  Sorry.
Maybe Rudolph but NOT Thomas.
And women may like him but, as Harry says, this is not the type of guy who makes all the fathers of teen aged girls want to shoot him on sight or lock them up in Nunneries.
And, truth be told, he'd look ridiculous trying to play the part.  Not because he wouldn't give it his all but because pretty much NOBODY would take him seriously.  And that's not a nice thing to do to an actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 30, 2010, 05:00:55 PM
Hmm, NPH for Rudy.  I like it!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 30, 2010, 05:04:20 PM
Hmm, NPH for Rudy.  I like it!

Thanks.
Morning JM, how are you this morning?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 30, 2010, 06:34:46 PM
NPH for Rudolph Mebe
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cass on December 06, 2010, 05:00:49 PM
They can with the people in the movie but that won't make me want him. And if all of the straight females in the audience don't want him then the casting just isn't right. And, even if there aren't that many movies, I still couldn't take poor casting. (Hey, I got bitter over the poor casting in Eragon and I didn't even read the books.) ;)

I'm not sure that there's one actor that could make all the straight women who see the movie want him.  People have too many (contradictory) preferences for that!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 06, 2010, 10:57:59 PM
I'm not sure that there's one actor that could make all the straight women who see the movie want him.  People have too many (contradictory) preferences for that!

Okay, maybe not every female audience member but still most should. Plus, as a woman, the fact that NPH is gay in real life really spoils any potential attraction even if he was smoking hot (which he's not.) The actor for Thomas should make the majority of the women instant fans and totally lust after that actor for ever and in every role he plays from then on out. Before you say that no actor is capable of that, let me just say Jake Gyllenhaal succeeded in doing that, even while playing in the rather mediocre summer movie (based on a video game no less) "Prince Of Persia" that became a guilty pleasure for a lot of women. So it is possible - we just have to find the ideal and sexy match to play the ideal and sexy Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cass on December 07, 2010, 01:47:11 AM
...He'll forever be Homer Hickam to me (from October Sky).
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing-- he was cute as a geek-- but I wouldn't tackle him on the street.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 07, 2010, 03:50:56 AM
...He'll forever be Homer Hickam to me (from October Sky).
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing-- he was cute as a geek-- but I wouldn't tackle him on the street.


Well, my first exposure was to the chisled body and amazing smile of Prince Dustan so I'm sure you can understand where I'm coming from. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 07, 2010, 01:37:41 PM
That movie was kinda terrible I thought the plot was strung out and the villians were easily beat
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bujin on December 07, 2010, 01:51:03 PM
Eh. I realize that finding the Thomas I visualize is going to be impossible but I still can't accept NPH. Given who Thomas is, the actor we choose should make me have to struggle really hard not to lust and NPH doesn't do that. Matt Bomer does that...but he doesn't look exactly like Thomas looks in my head. I can make the sacrifce for exact appearance easier, though, than I can accept someone who lacks that innate sexual magnetism that is so essential.

My wife would leave me for Matt Bomer in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 07, 2010, 02:56:21 PM
My wife would leave me for Matt Bomer in a heartbeat.

Lol! Well, he is sort of hard to compete with...  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 07, 2010, 02:58:33 PM
That movie was kinda terrible I thought the plot was strung out and the villians were easily beat

You'll notice I called it a guilty pleasure. Not great by any strech but a fun action movie and totally enjoyable. And the fact that the scenery was so nice the whole way through didn't hurt for the female action movie fans such as myself. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on December 07, 2010, 04:06:14 PM
Lol! Well, he is sort of hard to compete with...  :-\

*dry-heaves*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bujin on December 07, 2010, 04:45:27 PM
Lol! Well, he is sort of hard to compete with...  :-\

Then again, she'd leave me sooner for Antonio Banderas, or Michael Praed (during his Robin Hood days.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 07, 2010, 07:42:47 PM
Then again, she'd leave me sooner for Antonio Banderas, or Michael Praed (during his Robin Hood days.)

Lol! Must say, she has exceptional taste. How about Gerard Butler? The other day my dad mentioned his accent for some role and my mom and I both uttered a unison and dreamy "Yeah...". He said he wasn't sure he liked how we said that - I guess he's got the same thing on the mind as you, Bujin. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bujin on December 08, 2010, 12:49:11 AM
Lol! Must say, she has exceptional taste. How about Gerard Butler? The other day my dad mentioned his accent for some role and my mom and I both uttered a unison and dreamy "Yeah...". He said he wasn't sure he liked how we said that - I guess he's got the same thing on the mind as you, Bujin. ;)

I'm almost positive that she doesn't know who Gerard Butler is..... we're pretty elderly, and she doesn't really keep up with pop culture stuff.  She does love Scottish accents, though.  She's seen Braveheart at least 6 times, and I doubt it was the plot.

She does indeed have good taste.  Straight or not, Michael Praed was so pretty that I would have given him a second look.   :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 08, 2010, 02:53:41 AM
I'm almost positive that she doesn't know who Gerard Butler is..... we're pretty elderly, and she doesn't really keep up with pop culture stuff.  She does love Scottish accents, though.  She's seen Braveheart at least 6 times, and I doubt it was the plot.

She does indeed have good taste.  Straight or not, Michael Praed was so pretty that I would have given him a second look.   :)

Ah - just be greatful she doesn't know him, lol. ;) And I adore Braveheart myself! (And like her, its not just for the plot.)  ::)

At least she has good tastes. And she picked you so you can look at her interest in cool Hollywood guys as a complement if you want. (That's what I'm hoping my husband will do, lol.) ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 09, 2010, 01:34:09 AM
Who mentioned Butler he can be kincaid
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 09, 2010, 03:59:49 AM
Who mentioned Butler he can be kincaid

Ooh, I mentioned him and you're right, he would make a great Kincaid. I could totally picture him as the tough mercenary and I think he could very believably play up the soft spot for Ivy as well. However, I think we'd have to make an exception about the hair if he were going to play the role. I think the long hair would look forced on him and that would really spoil the tough assassin image.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on December 10, 2010, 08:21:16 AM
I saw this pic and I just thought OMG! it's Marcone!

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/09/article-1337100-0C656B6C000005DC-843_634x581.jpg)
Andy Garcia

someone may have already mentioned him, but I'm not going through 150 pages of posts   :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 10, 2010, 04:41:59 PM
Wow, that is Marcone! He will now officially play Marcone in my head as I read the upcoming books. Thanks, Icecream!  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 10, 2010, 11:22:43 PM
I still say travolta should be marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on December 10, 2010, 11:37:04 PM
No.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on December 10, 2010, 11:53:57 PM
I still say travolta should be marcone

Sure. But it'll have to wait until after he's completed acting lessons.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on December 10, 2010, 11:59:02 PM
Ouch.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 11, 2010, 06:56:28 AM
I second that ouch.

I think Dakota Fanning, with a bit of time out in the sun, could play Ivy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 11, 2010, 07:03:48 AM
I think Dakota Fanning, with a bit of time out in the sun, could play Ivy.

I think she'd make a great Ivy but I'm afraid she may be too old now. She's sixteen and that puts her closer to the age of Molly than Ivy. Not that I think she should play Molly because I don't - just an observation.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on December 11, 2010, 07:19:00 AM
dakota fanning has a 12yo sis elle I think?

I'll just throw out my suggestion for older maggie jr. - crap I forgot her name  , um disney star was on camp rock.

demi lovato! - that's it
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 11, 2010, 07:21:24 AM
dakota fanning has a 12yo sis elle I think?

I'll just throw out my suggestion for older maggie jr. - crap I forgot her name  , um disney star was on camp rock.

demi lovato! - that's it

Younger Fanning sister might work. Good thought.

Can't agree with Demi Lovato, though. I don't think she's a good enough actress for a DF movie. Still, I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on December 11, 2010, 10:47:30 AM
yeah , I haven't really seen her act, but I'm just putting people out there who I think look like the characters. Everyone have different thoughts , or interpretations of the characters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 12, 2010, 12:22:33 AM
Hi IC, I hope you're having a good evening or morning.
Had a thought for Butters.
The kid, though he is now an adult, from 3rd Rock from the Sun.
I think his name is Joseph Gordon Levitt.  He was in Inception I believe.
He's small and wiry and has dark hair and with glasses on would look very geeky.
Plus he can play comedy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 12, 2010, 02:16:26 AM
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSzVISzM_3jgNgpJH3FLQ5VqRnfbjnc7EaMHPMABEU4kXaCwibQXw) or(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ2YGHii8xXp0RtaMqn3ddj60_DO3UkIg0ox1vpa9Kx65wgbV4M) or(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJVi1qNx1ulT8wWguXIHuTrGIb_MvjT8Qjcew3KG_Pvpge0jX6bg) as Sanya
1) Henry Simmons
2) Shemar Moore
3) Boris Kodjoe

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 12, 2010, 06:39:33 AM
Ooooh...I especially like that middle one, Tigris. (And not just for the sexy pose.) ;)

As for Joseph Gordon-Levitt, he's too sexy to play Butters, I think. I'd like to see him in Dresden for sure, though. Any other parts he could play?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 12, 2010, 06:51:14 AM
Ooooh...I especially like that middle one, Tigris. (And not just for the sexy pose.) ;)
Ah yes, Shemar Moore, very sexy and he has the of being an ass-kicking FBI agent to boot.

As for Joseph Gordon-Levitt, he's too sexy to play Butters, I think. I'd like to see him in Dresden for sure, though. Any other parts he could play?
I donno, add some crazy Einstein hair, glasses and scrubs and he would make a pretty good Butters. Btw, Harry never said Butters was ugly, just odd. I vote for a sexy Butters, more eye candy for all!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 12, 2010, 06:56:12 AM
I donno, add some crazy Einstein hair, glasses and scrubs and he would make a pretty good Butters. Btw, Harry never said Butters was ugly, just odd. I vote for a sexy Butters, more eye candy for all!

Lol! I can't argue with wanting more eye candy but...I dunno. I guess I just don't want to have to see my sweetheart having to be so quirky when he has the ability to be so sexy. Selfish, I know. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 12, 2010, 04:47:14 PM
Quirky and sexy do not have to be mutually exclusive.*off to work now*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 12, 2010, 06:06:35 PM
Quirky and sexy do not have to be mutually exclusive.*off to work now*

Eh, maybe not. (I mean, Dean Winchester is pretty quirk but sexy as heck.) I'll have to think about it. Have a nice day, Tigris!  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 12, 2010, 06:39:47 PM
Hey, I'm good with Shemar Moore for Sanya.  Good looking and he's used to doing action work as you say.
As for Butters.  All I remember, at the moment, of Harry's comments is that he was small and wiry with dark hair that stuck up like an upset cat.  He never said Butters was ugly.  Also you need someone that you believe would be into Polka.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 12, 2010, 07:41:35 PM
Hey, I'm good with Shemar Moore for Sanya.  Good looking and he's used to doing action work as you say.
As for Butters.  All I remember, at the moment, of Harry's comments is that he was small and wiry with dark hair that stuck up like an upset cat.  He never said Butters was ugly.  Also you need someone that you believe would be into Polka.

I agree that there's nothing in the description that says my boy couldn't be Butters. But I just can't see him liking Polka or being so quirky in his mannerisms like Butters. And I love Butters - he's just squattier and goofier in my image.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 12, 2010, 07:49:53 PM
I agree that there's nothing in the description that says my boy couldn't be Butters. But I just can't see him liking Polka or being so quirky in his mannerisms like Butters. And I love Butters - he's just squattier and goofier in my image.

Well, that's kinda playing against type. Having someone sorta sexy who likes polka - it's not what you expect and that would be fun to do to Butter's character. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 12, 2010, 08:49:05 PM
Well, that's kinda playing against type. Having someone sorta sexy who likes polka - it's not what you expect and that would be fun to do to Butter's character. 

Well, if they played him up as sexy, too, (not just choosing an actor who happens to be sexy,) then I guess I could accept that. You're right - playing against type would be kinda fun.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 13, 2010, 06:57:24 AM
Eh, maybe not. (I mean, Dean Winchester is pretty quirk but sexy as heck.) I'll have to think about it. Have a nice day, Tigris!  :)
Thankies, it was a doosy, let me tell you. I was coming down off a hormonal high from starting act pics of sexy actors so what I *meant* was if he has the acting ability plus can pull of a sexy Butter, why not?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 13, 2010, 07:04:22 AM
Thankies, it was a doosy, let me tell you. I was coming down off a hormonal high from starting act pics of sexy actors so what I *meant* was if he has the acting ability plus can pull of a sexy Butter, why not?

Yeah, it just sort of had to sink in a little with me, given how I've always pictured Butters but I know what you meant and I've realized that you're so right. If he can pull of a sexy Butters, why not? ;)

And just so you know, looking at sexy actors is always a good excuse for anything. Late for work? Fuzzy brain? Didn't get anything accomplished today other than some really hot daydreams? Just say sexy actors and every girl in the room will understand. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 13, 2010, 07:13:47 AM
Oh, and Tigris - still looking for that photo of Sanya for Christmas? Look no farther. And its a two-page spread so you get double the hotness.  ;D

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lLsdaCVk3Kk/SfilvvIWweI/AAAAAAAA3yQ/Z4beGpTkXKQ/s400/ShemarMoore19.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lLsdaCVk3Kk/SfilvvIWweI/AAAAAAAA3yQ/Z4beGpTkXKQ/s400/ShemarMoore19.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 13, 2010, 08:09:59 AM
Thank you Hat2 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 13, 2010, 04:58:28 PM
No problem, Tigris! I can't help drooling over him a bit myself...  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 14, 2010, 05:38:54 PM
Had a thought for Michael.
How about David Wenham.
He played Faramir in LoTRs.
He's tall, I've seen him in a work type shirt and he looks like
someone who might be handling a sword and/or power tools and
he has an open/honest face.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 14, 2010, 06:31:16 PM
Had a thought for Michael.
How about David Wenham.
He played Faramir in LoTRs.
He's tall, I've seen him in a work type shirt and he looks like
someone who might be handling a sword and/or power tools and
he has an open/honest face.

Really close and one of the best matches suggested for sure. I'm not sure if he seems confident enough to play Michael, though. Not that Michael is arrogant or anything of course, just that he feels that God has equiped him to handle anything he is called on to do. David Wenham, although awesome, just doesn't telegraph that kind of assurance. Still, he does have the openness that is so important for Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on December 14, 2010, 08:00:14 PM
Really close and one of the best matches suggested for sure. I'm not sure if he seems confident enough to play Michael, though. Not that Michael is arrogant or anything of course, just that he feels that God has equiped him to handle anything he is called on to do. David Wenham, although awesome, just doesn't telegraph that kind of assurance. Still, he does have the openness that is so important for Michael.

Which is all why we need to get Paul Gross in on it. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 14, 2010, 09:29:55 PM
Which is all why we need to get Paul Gross in on it. :D

Lol! I was wondering when you'd pipe that up, Shecky.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 15, 2010, 02:53:00 AM
Ah, I had forgotten about Paul Gross.

Oh, had another thought for Butters.
How about, I know I'm gonna spell this wrong, Sharlto Copeley.
The guy from District 9.  He's small and slender, dark haired and he
can do serious and silly.  After seeing him in A-Team I know he can do
crazy.  (Heck, he outcrazied the original Murdock)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on December 15, 2010, 03:09:38 AM
For Micheal I know he is not an actor and he would be playiong to type but what about Mike Holmes from the show Holmes on Homes please don't flame me to much.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 15, 2010, 03:10:35 AM
Ah, I had forgotten about Paul Gross.

Oh, had another thought for Butters.
How about, I know I'm gonna spell this wrong, Sharlto Copeley.
The guy from District 9.  He's small and slender, dark haired and he
can do serious and silly.  After seeing him in A-Team I know he can do
crazy.  (Heck, he outcrazied the original Murdock)

Don't know him. I'll keep Butters in mind when I watch A-Team, though, even if it will be hard to make a comparison between such different characters. Still, with some actors you can just tell.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 15, 2010, 03:13:50 AM
For Micheal I know he is not an actor and he would be playiong to type but what about Mike Holmes from the show Holmes on Homes please don't flame me to much.

We try to be polite around here Bellmaker don't worry.
We may disagree with your suggestion, but flame you no.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 15, 2010, 03:20:48 AM
For Micheal I know he is not an actor and he would be playiong to type but what about Mike Holmes from the show Holmes on Homes please don't flame me to much.

Yeah, he doesn't seem clean cut enough to play Michael I'm afraid. But don't worry - like Snowleopard said, we're nice. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 15, 2010, 03:23:25 AM
Other than occasionally wanting to sit on a certain someone's head when
he mentions, yet again, Tom Cruise.  Sigh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 15, 2010, 03:34:13 AM
Other than occasionally wanting to sit on a certain someone's head when
he mentions, yet again, Tom Cruise.  Sigh.

and who is that I might ask?  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 15, 2010, 03:36:28 AM
Other than occasionally wanting to sit on a certain someone's head when
he mentions, yet again, Tom Cruise.  Sigh.

and who is that I might ask?  ;)

LOL! Who, indeed?  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 15, 2010, 03:40:24 AM
Have you seen A Few Good Nen he really makes that movie. *ducks projectile*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 15, 2010, 03:59:41 AM
Have you seen A Few Good Nen he really makes that movie. *ducks projectile*

OOKAY, THAT'S IT!!!! This job calls for more than just simple projectiles! *Presses the red button, ducks into bunker, and watches as Geneseo, IL goes up in a puff of smoke, explodes, and falls into a crack in the earth - all that the same time!)*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 15, 2010, 04:02:47 AM
*sigh* I guess no one here likes that movie as much as me. He is a good actor but......

"You want the truth...., you can't handle the truth."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 15, 2010, 04:14:36 AM
*sigh* I guess no one here likes that movie as much as me. He is a good actor but......

"You want the truth...., you can't handle the truth."

I got no problem with Tom Cruise in A Few Good Men - what I got a problem with is Tom Cruise in DF. And I'm afraid he's not a good actor. In some ways he is but the arrogant attitude always shows through, regarless of character, so that its like he's playing Top Gun's Maverick in everything. Granted, I loved Maverick...I just don't want to see him over and over again in everthing, especially in roles that don't call for a Maverick-type character.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 15, 2010, 04:17:46 AM
*sigh again* watch war of the worlds ok I say he could be kincaid
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 15, 2010, 04:28:22 AM
*sigh again* watch war of the worlds ok I say he could be kincaid

Gaaaaahhhh! Not my Kincaid!  :o

I've seen War Of The Worlds - better than usual for him but still not up to scratch for DF. Besides, even if that performance was flawless (which its not,) the ratio of bad to good is still very much against him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 15, 2010, 05:57:41 AM
I second David Wenham as Micheal.*goes to eat just made walnut pie*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 15, 2010, 06:00:35 AM
goes to eat just made walnut pie*

Man, that sounds good! Enjoy a slice for me, Tigris.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 15, 2010, 06:08:05 AM
I will. It was actually a pecan pie recipe, I just added walnuts instead. Nomnommy goodness. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 15, 2010, 06:21:14 AM
I will. It was actually a pecan pie recipe, I just added walnuts instead. Nomnommy goodness. :D

Oooh, I see. I don't like the pecans of pecan pie all that well so I bet its really good with walnuts.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 15, 2010, 06:52:40 AM
I wonder how it would be with either almonds or macadamia nuts.
OOOOOOOH.  Nommmmy

As for Tom Cruise.
He has become a one note performer.
We want actors/actresses for the DF movie.
Sorry GW if you can't handle the truth.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 15, 2010, 07:03:01 AM
I wonder how it would be with either almonds or macadamia nuts.
OOOOOOOH.  Nommmmy

As for Tom Cruise.
He has become a one note performer.
We want actors/actresses for the DF movie.
Sorry GW if you can't handle the truth.

What Snowleopard said! (On both counts.) ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 15, 2010, 07:07:29 AM
Oh dear, I hope we didn't scare off poor bellmaker.

Glad you liked the almond or macadamia nut suggestion, hatshep.

As for the other - sigh - he'll be back.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 15, 2010, 07:47:43 AM
I wonder how it would be with either almonds or macadamia nuts.
OOOOOOOH.  Nommmmy

As for Tom Cruise.
He has become a one note performer.
We want actors/actresses for the DF movie.
Sorry GW if you can't handle the truth.
One: Any kind of nut would work with a basic pecan pie recipe. And yes, it was Nommmy  ;D
Two: Ditto on Tom Cruise.
Three: Micheal has always kinda reminded me of my dad, that's why I don't find him sexy. That would be going into Freudian territory and we do NOT want to go there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 15, 2010, 08:13:48 AM
Oh dear, I hope we didn't scare off poor bellmaker.

Glad you liked the almond or macadamia nut suggestion, hatshep.

As for the other - sigh - he'll be back.

Lol! I hope not, too.

Yep, I'm really gonna have to try that. I'm no cook but maybe I can get my sister to cook it for me. She's going to culinary school and loves modifying recipies (and is good at it) so that shouldn't be too hard. :)

And yes, I'm afraid you're right - Grey Warden's Tom-Cruise-in-DF fixation will, indeed, resurface.

One: Any kind of nut would work with a basic pecan pie recipe. And yes, it was Nommmy  ;D
Two: Ditto on Tom Cruise.
Three: Micheal has always kinda reminded me of my dad, that's why I don't find him sexy. That would be going into Freudian territory and we do NOT want to go there.

Interesting that Michael reminds you of your dad. He sort of does me with mine, too, but not in a creepy way or anything. They say "men marry women who remind them of their mothers" and I think the same thing can somewhat apply to girls as well. Especially if you've had a happy childhood as well as aspire to have a family like the one you had. I adore my younger brothers, babysitting, and kids in general so you can see where my plans are headed. (Actually, I hope to get to be a nurse for a little while first but I'm not banking on it.) Given how compatable my dad was with my mom, who aspired to the same things, then it kind of makes sense that I should be interested in people like my dad. Still, if he is just too close to the family you had then I can certainly see how it would make him too similar to be sexy. My dad's an engineer and I can't see myself falling for an engineer for that reason. Still, I live a city full of engineers so I could be wrong. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on December 15, 2010, 02:27:50 PM
I did not go away I'm just lurking.  Speaking of dads as Michael what about clom Meany, Obrian from Deep Space Nine and Star Trek in the role if you wonder why watch the Commitments and or the Snapper.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: zyada on December 15, 2010, 04:18:17 PM
The only way that I would agree to Tom Cruise in a DF movie would be if he played Cassius(?) the snakeboy  Denarian.

I'd pay good money to see the $#@$ beat out of Tom Cruise.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 15, 2010, 04:22:45 PM
Hmmm, I know it's Christmas but I LIKE that idea zyada.
(Mwahahahahahahahah)

Hey bellmaker, glad to see we didn't scare you off.
A good morning to you by the way.
I don't know about Colm Meaney.  Michael has a full
head of hair and a beard.  Don't know if I see that on Meaney.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 15, 2010, 05:56:53 PM
Interesting that Michael reminds you of your dad. He sort of does me with mine, too, but not in a creepy way or anything. They say "men marry women who remind them of their mothers" and I think the same thing can somewhat apply to girls as well. Especially if you've had a happy childhood as well as aspire to have a family like the one you had. I adore my younger brothers, babysitting, and kids in general so you can see where my plans are headed. (Actually, I hope to get to be a nurse for a little while first but I'm not banking on it.) Given how compatable my dad was with my mom, who aspired to the same things, then it kind of makes sense that I should be interested in people like my dad. Still, if he is just too close to the family you had then I can certainly see how it would make him too similar to be sexy. My dad's an engineer and I can't see myself falling for an engineer for that reason. Still, I live a city full of engineers so I could be wrong. ;)
Well, both Micheal and my dad are A) very religious (in a good way) B.) large of stature with gentle dispositions and booming voices C) love kids D) love working E) older then the average with salt-n-pepper hair and beard etc...
It's actually one of the reasons I love Micheal, that he both reminds me of my dad and is a good person (lets not forget the former Fist of God, I love badass christian folks).
I would love to meet someone to (eventually) settle down and raise some munchins with who has some of the qualities I admire in my dad, I'd just never call my dad smexy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on December 15, 2010, 07:18:24 PM
Butters= Gale from Breaking Bad
(http://blogs.amctv.com/breaking-bad/BB-S3-David-Costabile-325.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 15, 2010, 07:23:38 PM
Hmm... he could be yes, but he looks a bit old...

edit: I meant when I looked up his recent pics he looked a bit old to play Butter(he looks mid to late 40's)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on December 15, 2010, 07:29:30 PM
Hmm... he could be yes, but he looks a bit old...
odd for a Character named Butters?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 15, 2010, 08:14:39 PM
HI I choose you david spade for butters
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 16, 2010, 03:40:17 AM
No.  We want actors who can do serious - David Spade no.
And frankly no to David Spade as anyone else in a DF movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 16, 2010, 03:47:01 AM
Michael Weston as butters forever
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 16, 2010, 03:49:22 AM
Who is Michael Weston?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 16, 2010, 03:57:18 AM
uh he is like the ultimate guest star he has been on, scrubs, burn notice, Law and order SVU, and many others. Look him up on Imdb, his mumbling personality would make him perfect
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 16, 2010, 04:00:44 AM
uh he is like the ultimate guest star he has been on, scrubs, burn notice, Law and order SVU, and many others. Look him up on Imdb, his mumbling personality would make him perfect

Butters doesn't mumble.
He needs to be played by an actor who can grow the character just
as JB is growing Butters.
He went from a guy pretty scared by the Supernatural world to
somebody who can tell HD to - "Bite Me Wizard Boy." when he
needs Harry's help with Morgan in Turncoat and Harry wants to chicken out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 16, 2010, 04:02:59 AM
he could do it have you seen dukes of hazard he is a cop
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 16, 2010, 04:17:54 AM
Took a look at Weston.
I think he's a bit too dreeby for Butters.
I put up Sharlto Copeley - the guy from District 9.
Small, dark haired, wiry and he can do crazy and sane.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 16, 2010, 04:25:09 AM
He is kind of okay I suppose.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 16, 2010, 07:26:08 AM
Just rewatched Inception and I have to say, whoever it was who originally suggested Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Butters (was it you, Tigris?) was right on the money. I had put up a bit of a fight in the beginning but I've more than come around and he is now going to always play the part of Butters in my mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 16, 2010, 07:31:10 AM
I love inception was he the friend who stays at the second level
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 16, 2010, 04:32:42 PM
Actually I put up Joseph Gordon Levitt.
Yeah, I know I'm putting up two different people for Butters.
I just sorta put them up as they occur to me.
Either one would be good.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 16, 2010, 05:39:02 PM
Actually I put up Joseph Gordon Levitt.
Yeah, I know I'm putting up two different people for Butters.
I just sorta put them up as they occur to me.
Either one would be good.

s'okay
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on December 17, 2010, 04:46:37 AM
Actually I put up Joseph Gordon Levitt.
Yeah, I know I'm putting up two different people for Butters.
I just sorta put them up as they occur to me.
Either one would be good.

Ah...I knew if was one of the people with cat names. ;) Yeah, I know what you mean - I do that sometimes. (I've also been known to go in the other direction and double cast - I'll have the same actor in my mind playing two different characters for the longest time and then, when they finally have a scene together, I'm like, "Hey, wait a minute!")  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on December 18, 2010, 06:07:32 AM
So, did anyone win Harry yet?

(woohoo!! I'm back!)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 18, 2010, 06:27:31 AM
Welcome back  :)
I don't know, I think it's still a bit of a debate (might have to look back through the thread).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 19, 2010, 07:27:57 AM
Welcome back  :)
I don't know, I think it's still a bit of a debate (might have to look back through the thread).

A DEBATE?  I think that's too mild a word for it.
Let us call it a very spirited debate!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 19, 2010, 11:19:33 PM
A DEBATE?  I think that's too mild a word for it.
Let us call it a very spirited debate!
Hmm..how about a pitched battle?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on December 20, 2010, 12:04:01 AM
Welcome back  :)
I don't know, I think it's still a bit of a debate (might have to look back through the thread).
Is it a debate when I'm right and everyone else is wrong  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 20, 2010, 04:59:01 AM
A debate where i occasionally mention tom cruise and everyone hates me ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on December 20, 2010, 10:06:29 PM
WITH GOOD REASON!

*ahem*  I still say Alexis Denisof is BEST for Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on December 20, 2010, 10:21:55 PM
WITH GOOD REASON!

*ahem*  I still say Alexis Denisof is BEST for Harry.
I could see that. I still say James Marsters
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 21, 2010, 02:36:02 AM
WITH GOOD REASON!

*ahem*  I still say Alexis Denisof is BEST for Harry.
No btw who is that

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on December 21, 2010, 04:17:59 AM
No btw who is that


*jaw drops*

(http://www.tvblanket.com/image/angel_tv_show_1.JPG)

Alexis on Left, James on Right
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 21, 2010, 04:24:16 AM
o him he would be good
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on December 21, 2010, 10:13:00 AM
*jaw drops*

(http://www.tvblanket.com/image/angel_tv_show_1.JPG)

Alexis on Left, James on Right

Does anyone else here get a 'Harry and Thomas walk into yet another situation" vibe from this pic?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on December 21, 2010, 05:27:53 PM
Does anyone else here get a 'Harry and Thomas walk into yet another situation" vibe from this pic?

What ^ he said.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 21, 2010, 06:24:10 PM
Yep
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bujin on December 21, 2010, 07:09:13 PM
WITH GOOD REASON!

*ahem*  I still say Alexis Denisof is BEST for Harry.

He would be my choice as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on December 21, 2010, 07:26:36 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Starbeam on December 23, 2010, 03:57:28 AM
WITH GOOD REASON!

*ahem*  I still say Alexis Denisof is BEST for Harry.
Hasn't someone or other said he's Jim's first choice?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 23, 2010, 04:00:53 AM
I thought that was Marsters?

Of course, Marsters would make one hell of a Thomas -
NOW there's a man who can be a "Predatory Angel".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bujin on December 23, 2010, 01:19:34 PM
Hasn't someone or other said he's Jim's first choice?

Yes, Jim posted that quite awhile ago.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on December 23, 2010, 05:00:42 PM
And I back his choice!  It's a good choice!  That or Michael Weatherly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 23, 2010, 05:02:51 PM
Hey, how about Chris Melloni for Hendricks.
(He plays Stabler on Law and Order, SVU.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on December 23, 2010, 05:03:35 PM
Pic!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on December 23, 2010, 07:47:11 PM
Oooo Flashes of Oz and Idon't mean the wizard but in that same vein Jessie Martin if he can do the accent for Sonya
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Starbeam on December 23, 2010, 10:15:50 PM
Hey, how about Chris Melloni for Hendricks.
(He plays Stabler on Law and Order, SVU.)
Actually, I could see him being good for Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Forzare on December 29, 2010, 12:54:33 AM
Russell Crowe for Michael would be so sweet
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 29, 2010, 02:59:55 AM
Russell Crowe for Michael would be so sweet

Sorry no - Russell Crowe does NOT have the goodness that Michael needs. He's too bad ass looking
and acting.  David Wenham yes, Crowe no.

Yeah, Chris Melloni would be a good Marcone - the man can literally radiate menace and that is an art unto itself.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Starbeam on December 29, 2010, 03:40:26 AM
Yeah, Chris Melloni would be a good Marcone - the man can literally radiate menace and that is an art unto itself.
While at the same time looking like he could be a high school softball coach, or something like that.  I forget the exact description from Storm Front.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on December 29, 2010, 09:05:34 AM
Does anyone else here get a 'Harry and Thomas walk into yet another situation" vibe from this pic?

Not really.
I Still see Matthew Bomer as Thomas hands down. :D
He's who I see when I read the books.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on December 30, 2010, 12:26:00 AM
How about a talented, tall, fairly young but yet to be known actor for Dresden?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: gypsymaria on December 30, 2010, 12:53:50 PM
I'd go for Lee Pace or Jared Padalecki, purely for height reasons, but neither of them really have the right look.  Maybe if Lee managed to lose the adorable puppy-dog look a bit, grew some stubble, let his hair get shaggy...  Hmmm...

Jared is too firmly established in my head as Sam Winchester, so he already kind of exists in a modern-fantasy universe, which would seriously mess with my head if he ever played Harry. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on December 30, 2010, 05:52:09 PM
I'd go for Lee Pace or Jared Padalecki, purely for height reasons, but neither of them really have the right look.  Maybe if Lee managed to lose the adorable puppy-dog look a bit, grew some stubble, let his hair get shaggy...

Harry is described as having hair that is short on the sides, and longer on top. It would make sense for him to have shaggy hair, and Mr. Mcgrath has firmly placed an image in many folks' head. Are people forgiving in the detail that according to the books Harry has, as I read it, just a little longer than military length hair. I think the cover of the RPG and the graphic novels has him with, what I think is, the correct style.

I would like to know who cuts his hair considering the effect using the trimmings could cause in the wrong hands.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on December 30, 2010, 06:02:12 PM
He probably cuts his own hair with shears. It would account for the constant bedhead look and do you really thing Harry would pay someone to cut his hair when he could do a perfectly serviceable job himself?

I also see Matthew Bomer as Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on January 02, 2011, 09:49:40 PM
Nah, James Marsters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bujin on January 03, 2011, 03:36:43 AM
Nah, James Marsters.

As Harry or Thomas?  I think he's a bit old for either by now - he's getting close to 50.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 03, 2011, 07:56:45 PM
As Harry or Thomas?  I think he's a bit old for either by now - he's getting close to 50.

Age can be dealt with - it's looks and acting chops you need.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on January 04, 2011, 01:18:02 AM
He probably cuts his own hair with shears. It would account for the constant bedhead look and do you really thing Harry would pay someone to cut his hair when he could do a perfectly serviceable job himself?

More like you think He'd let someone else cut his hair ? I could imagine Nicodemus hiding in the corner of a barber shop with a brushpan waiting for Harry to leave.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bujin on January 04, 2011, 04:33:35 PM
Age can be dealt with - it's looks and acting chops you need.

Well, I would agree, except that Thomas has to be "the high priest of bowflex", and I'm not certain a 50-year-old would fit that description.  If you remember the nerd-fury because Murphy was a brunette....   :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 04, 2011, 06:04:41 PM
Well, I would agree, except that Thomas has to be "the high priest of bowflex", and I'm not certain a 50-year-old would fit that description.  If you remember the nerd-fury because Murphy was a brunette....   :)

Depends on the fifty year old.  And with the right costumes you can make anything seem possible, for the most part.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tigris on January 05, 2011, 04:40:27 AM
Depends on the fifty year old.  And with the right costumes you can make anything seem possible, for the most part.
But can he pull off a fishnet shirt and leather pants is all I wanna know..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 06, 2011, 04:38:03 AM
But can he pull off a fishnet shirt and leather pants is all I wanna know..

I'm fairly sure that he can.  He does, after all, play in a band ya know.. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on January 06, 2011, 07:26:17 PM
Depends on the fifty year old.  And with the right costumes you can make anything seem possible, for the most part.

Matt Bomer hands down. :D *waves the MB for Thomas banner on the flag pole*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 06, 2011, 07:34:29 PM
I suspect that whoever would do Thomas would have some CGI work done when his "hunger" is in control.  Take the eyes from grey to silver, make the features look completely even, the skin take on a slight 'glow'.  Most everybody's features are slightly off kilter - someone with totally even features looks outre and a touch out there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 07, 2011, 12:53:25 AM
Hurray! I'm back at last.  ;D

I love the idea of Harry cutting his own hair! It totally makes sense (and as the reasoning behind the perpetual bedhead look its perfect) but I'd never really thought about it before.

But can he pull off a fishnet shirt and leather pants is all I wanna know..

Oh, no doubt. Since he's already played such a sexy awesome vampire I'm not sure I actually support him playing such a similar role but I've just got to defend his awesome body. I know its been just a few years since "Buffy" but he's still in great shape and I'd love to see him take his shirt off right now. No disrespect to his wife, of course. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on January 07, 2011, 03:11:35 AM
He, James Masters played an interresting ;) role on the BBC show Torchwood who had very WC tastes in things of the flesh.  So yes he could pull off interresting dressing stituations.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 07, 2011, 03:21:17 AM
He, James Masters played an interresting ;) role on the BBC show Torchwood who had very WC tastes in things of the flesh.  So yes he could pull off interresting dressing stituations.

I loved it when he first showed up on Torchwood.  I laughed so hard I almost cried.  Particularly when Gwen is driving him around, they're still linked together and he looks out the window and goes - "What's that - it's gorgeous!"  Gwen looks over, makes a small face and says - "it's a poodle!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 07, 2011, 05:16:09 AM
He, James Masters played an interresting ;) role on the BBC show Torchwood who had very WC tastes in things of the flesh.  So yes he could pull off interresting dressing stituations.

Hm...nice - I'll have to look that up.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on January 10, 2011, 04:37:21 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen, here is Nicodemus. There will be no further discussion on the matter.
(http://www.londonparties.co.uk/magazine/ShowBizImages/BS2BS77522.jpg)

And here's another that I thought was too big to post directly, but too perfect not to link:
http://us.macmillan.com/CMS400/uploadedImages/ImageGallery/DaltonTimothy.jpg (http://us.macmillan.com/CMS400/uploadedImages/ImageGallery/DaltonTimothy.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on January 10, 2011, 03:58:24 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, here is Nicodemus. There will be no further discussion on the matter.
(http://www.londonparties.co.uk/magazine/ShowBizImages/BS2BS77522.jpg)

And here's another that I thought was too big to post directly, but too perfect not to link:
http://us.macmillan.com/CMS400/uploadedImages/ImageGallery/DaltonTimothy.jpg (http://us.macmillan.com/CMS400/uploadedImages/ImageGallery/DaltonTimothy.jpg)

Thats Marcone crazy man
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on January 10, 2011, 04:30:39 PM
Nah. While he'd make a great Marcone, Dalton would make a far better Nicodemus. Anyone who has seen The End Of Time (both parts) will know what I'm talking about.

Also, just in case the Winter King (Santa Claus) ever shows up...
BRIAN BLESSED
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: uncanny on January 10, 2011, 04:41:37 PM
Nah. While he'd make a great Marcone, Dalton would make a far better Nicodemus. Anyone who has seen The End Of Time (both parts) will know what I'm talking about.

Also, just in case the Winter King (Santa Claus) ever shows up...
BRIAN BLESSED
+1  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on January 10, 2011, 05:01:41 PM
Nah. While he'd make a great Marcone, Dalton would make a far better Nicodemus. Anyone who has seen The End Of Time (both parts) will know what I'm talking about.

Also, just in case the Winter King (Santa Claus) ever shows up...
BRIAN BLESSED

+2!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: TwiceDead on January 12, 2011, 12:10:00 PM
Has anyone seen the Priest trailer?

Karl Urban - black duster and hat (yes, I know Harry doesn't wear a hat). He's 38 years old, 6'1", dark haired, rugged and likes to appear in genre properties...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OuKIMUeA20M/TKCr4_oDX_I/AAAAAAAAEB0/cmyLeJt0KNw/s320/karl-urban-black-hat-priest-2011.jpg)

And that's not photoshopped...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on January 12, 2011, 01:19:14 PM
Y'know, having Bones play Harry would bring a whole 'nother level to the character. I'd always hear him saying, "Dammit, Jim..." :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: TwiceDead on January 12, 2011, 01:24:14 PM
Y'know, having Bones play Harry would bring a whole 'nother level to the character. I'd always hear him saying, "Dammit, Jim..." :D

How very meta.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on January 12, 2011, 04:45:39 PM
Karl Urban must be involved.  As Harry, though, I'm a little iffy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 12, 2011, 05:07:06 PM
Karl Urban is good but as who I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 13, 2011, 04:44:44 AM
Y'know, having Bones play Harry would bring a whole 'nother level to the character. I'd always hear him saying, "Dammit, Jim..." :D

Ha ha ha ha!!! Now that's something Harry must really feel like saying every single day.  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 13, 2011, 06:59:41 AM
"Dammit Jim, I'm a Wizard...not an Archangel!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on January 13, 2011, 07:15:36 AM
Has anyone seen the Priest trailer?

Karl Urban - black duster and hat (yes, I know Harry doesn't wear a hat). He's 38 years old, 6'1", dark haired, rugged and likes to appear in genre properties...

and a kiwi!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on January 13, 2011, 09:06:01 PM
and a kiwi!

Okay, took me a good 30 seconds to read this correctly.  In those 30 seconds, I was wondering why he was in a movie, holding a kiwi. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on January 13, 2011, 09:28:37 PM
After seeing her in an episode of Castle, I realized that the actress who played Bianca on the Dresden Files TV show would be a good choice for Lara Raith.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1162399/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1162399/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on January 14, 2011, 03:47:53 AM
An ideal for Lara Raith would be the women who played Atia of the Julia in the HBO series Rome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 14, 2011, 05:12:32 AM
"Dammit Jim, I'm a Wizard...not an Archangel!"

LOL!!! Jim does seem to expect alot out of poor Harry, doesn't he?  ;)

After seeing her in an episode of Castle, I realized that the actress who played Bianca on the Dresden Files TV show would be a good choice for Lara Raith.

I've seen her in the SyFy show "Warehouse 13" and I just can't see it - that botox is too obvious and over-the-top for the primal appeal of Lara Raith. The fact that Harry contrasted her so sharply with the artificially sexy what's-her-face Vixen says that she aught to at least look all natural - even if she is cheating a bit with the supernatual whammy. ;) Meaning not a bunch of obvious botox - and not a glaring boob job or anything of course, either. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on January 14, 2011, 05:46:33 AM
I've seen her in the SyFy show "Warehouse 13" and I just can't see it - that botox is too obvious and over-the-top for the primal appeal of Lara Raith. The fact that Harry contrasted her so sharply with the artificially sexy what's-her-face Vixen says that she aught to at least look all natural - even if she is cheating a bit with the supernatual whammy. ;) Meaning not a bunch of obvious botox - and not a glaring boob job or anything of course, either. ;)

Fair enough. I haven't seen Warehouse 13, so I don't know what she's like in that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 14, 2011, 10:32:33 PM
Fair enough. I haven't seen Warehouse 13, so I don't know what she's like in that.

To be fair, though, I haven't seen her in her Bianca role so I don't know how she pulls off sexy and if her botox is distracting in it. All the characters in "Warehouse 13" are a bit quirky so I guess you never know. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on January 15, 2011, 07:45:55 PM
I just realized who would be perfect for Luccio 2.0, based on the mention of her "killer dimples" when she smiles...

(http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/summer-glau.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on January 15, 2011, 08:20:37 PM
Karl Urban is good but as who I'm not sure.

Kincaid?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 16, 2011, 01:04:40 AM
Kincaid?

I don't think Urban is physically big enough for Kincaid. 
Maybe Tilly?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 16, 2011, 08:49:08 PM
I just realized who would be perfect for Luccio 2.0, based on the mention of her "killer dimples" when she smiles...

(http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/summer-glau.jpg)


Maybe...I'm not so sure she has enough life to play Luccio, though. Summer Glau has been great in everything I've seen her in but I think that's largely due to the types of roles she gets (emotionally unstable, robotic, etc.) I tend to think that Glau has strange mannerisms in real life, too - ones that she can't overcome for a role. She hasn't had to because there are plenty of "off" roles for her to play but still...I'm not sure she's got the acting ability to pull of the complicated Luccio. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tbora on January 17, 2011, 08:58:38 PM

Okay so apparently the rights have reverted back to Jim early (as the title mentions) that means we need to start planning the new TV/Movie/HBO/Animated/Whatever - Series :D

Here is what I am suggesting an HBO style TV series with 6 episodes a season each two hours long.Below is my "dream team" of who would be involved in the project.

Quote from: The Crew
Show Runner/Head Honcho/Executive Producer - Joss Whedon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joss_Whedon)
Director - Matthew Vaughn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Vaughn)
Scriptwriters - Jane Goldman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Goldman), Zack Snyder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zack_Snyder), Greg Weisman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Weisman), J.J Abrams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._J._Abrams)  With those mentioned above also contributing to the writing process.
He Who Possesses The Veto Power - Jim Butcher ( I don't think I need to link to his wikipedia account :P)


Quote from: The Cast
Main Characters
Harry Dresden -
Karrin Murphy -
Bob the Skull -
Thomas Raith -
Molly Carpenter - Cloe Moretz (played Hit Girl in Kickass) as teen, Olivia Wilde (Played Quorra in Tron: Legacy) around Turn Coat and above.

Supporting Characters
John Marcone -
Billy Borden -
Michael Carpenter -
Sanya -
Shiro - George Takei
Nicodemus - Alan Rickman (Played Hans Gruber in Die Hard)
Ivy -
Ebenezer McCoy -
Donald Morgan -
Lara Raith - 

As you can see I left the cast mostly blank, why?

Because I honestly don't know who would fit the rolls. Yah.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on January 17, 2011, 09:13:18 PM
I have to say, I hadn't thought of it, but Rickman could do an awesome creepy Nicodemus!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Koriandr on January 17, 2011, 09:15:44 PM
Wow they did? :O How did you hear about this?

And I was just looking through your list and thought:

Lara Raith - Megan Fox
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cass on January 17, 2011, 09:20:03 PM
Jim announced it at the MarsCon Q&A session.  Serack has a sgood summary in the thread entitled, "Bad News and other info outa Marscon", which you can read here:

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,23664.0.html (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,23664.0.html)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Koriandr on January 17, 2011, 09:22:54 PM
Jim announced it at the MarsCon Q&A session.  Serack has a sgood summary in the thread entitled, "Bad News and other info outa Marscon", which you can read here:

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,23664.0.html (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,23664.0.html)



Oh thank you! I'm gonna go read that now. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kouran on January 17, 2011, 09:52:11 PM
Donald Morgan - Sean Bean a little rough around the edges and plenty of gravitas
John Marcone - Chazz Palminteri (wrong eye color, but thats fixable post production, might be a bit to heavy set as well)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DLFSquints on January 17, 2011, 10:03:44 PM
Main Characters
Harry Dresden - Someone we haven't seen before probably end up being Australian
Karrin Murphy - Kristen Bell (Tiny but Fierce)
Bob the Skull - The Voice of Ron Jeremy
Thomas Raith -
Molly Carpenter - Cloe Moretz (played Hit Girl in Kickass) as teen, Olivia Wilde (Played Quorra in Tron: Legacy) around Turn Coat and above.

Supporting Characters
John Marcone - Liam Neeson (Chazz Palminteri works well too)
Michael Carpenter - David Boreanaz or Mark Valley
Sanya - "Ivan" From the Wire
Shiro - George Takei
Nicodemus - Alan Rickman (Played Hans Gruber in Die Hard)
Ivy - Hailee Steinfeld (True Grit)
Ebenezer McCoy - Robert Duvall
Donald Morgan - Conrad Coates or Idris Elba
Lara Raith - Missy Peregrym
Mac - Jeff Bridges (6 degree loop and the Dude)
Kincaid - Sean BeanCharity -
Susan Rodrigez -
Hendricks -
Gard - Tricia Helfer
Aurther Langtry -
Luccio -
Carlos -
Clancy - Colin Firth
Toot -
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: GWPfark on January 17, 2011, 10:09:15 PM
Main Characters
Harry Dresden - Someone we haven't seen before probably end up being Australian
Karrin Murphy - Kristen Bell (Tiny but Fierce)
Bob the Skull - The Voice of Ron Jeremy
Thomas Raith -
Molly Carpenter - Cloe Moretz (played Hit Girl in Kickass) as teen, Olivia Wilde (Played Quorra in Tron: Legacy) around Turn Coat and above.

Supporting Characters
John Marcone - Liam Neeson (Chazz Palminteri works well too)
Michael Carpenter - David Boreanaz or Mark Valley
Sanya - "Ivan" From the Wire
Shiro - George Takei
Nicodemus - Alan Rickman (Played Hans Gruber in Die Hard)
Ivy - Hailee Steinfeld (True Grit)
Ebenezer McCoy - Robert Duvall
Donald Morgan - Conrad Coates or Idris Elba
Lara Raith - Missy Peregrym
Mac - Jeff Bridges (6 degree loop and the Dude)
Kincaid - Sean BeanCharity -
Susan Rodrigez -
Hendricks -
Gard - Tricia Helfer
Aurther Langtry -
Luccio -
Carlos -
Clancy - Colin Firth
Toot -


I can't believe I am saying this but Best Bob the Skull ever.
I would go Clancy Brown as Donald Morgan though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tbora on January 17, 2011, 10:18:23 PM
I am trying to think of a role for Johnny Depp, any ideas?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: GWPfark on January 17, 2011, 10:22:50 PM
I am trying to think of a role for Johnny Depp, any ideas?


Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: azkitch on January 17, 2011, 10:34:54 PM
OK. I realize this is from left field, but I really like baseball.
Ken Jeong for Dr. Butters. Sure he's not yankee/caucasian/Jewish. But having a Jewish polka loving Korean ME would be just quirky enough. And Dr. Jeong could pull it off, too.
And I voted for Jared P. as Harry because almost all of the rest of them are 6' 2" tops. Harry has got to tower over everybody. And JP is the right age. I might have gone for the guy from The Middle, but he's 50 for Pete's sake! Otherwise, he'd do pretty well. I always thought Harry was almost based on Clint Eastwood.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tbora on January 17, 2011, 10:41:16 PM
Thomas.

Would Depp do a good Thomas you think?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bassfraser on January 17, 2011, 10:42:59 PM
Would Depp do a good Thomas you think?


Sure.  He does pretty good at everything.  I'd agree with him as Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Serack on January 17, 2011, 10:56:04 PM
I have to say, I hadn't thought of it, but Rickman could do an awesome creepy Nicodemus!

Honestly, I can't see Snape playing Nicodemus
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: GWPfark on January 17, 2011, 10:57:04 PM
Would Depp do a good Thomas you think?


Every woman I know thinks Depp is hot. He is a talented actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjsharks on January 17, 2011, 11:02:53 PM
heh, how pissed would people get if you had Thomas be Robert Pattinson and Billy William be Taylor Lautner  ;D ;D ;D

*starts ducking the rotten fruit*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DLFSquints on January 17, 2011, 11:08:13 PM
In the immortal words of Ivan Drago "I VILL BREAK YOU"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: GWPfark on January 17, 2011, 11:08:13 PM
heh, how pissed would people get if you had Thomas be Robert Pattinson and Billy William be Taylor Lautner  ;D ;D ;D

*starts ducking the rotten fruit*

Ahh but since The Archive gets to know everything that is Digitally Recorded how about this for the Archive.


(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9l8rgLTLw1qzsw0t.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on January 18, 2011, 12:19:31 AM
what is that?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: GWPfark on January 18, 2011, 01:07:20 AM
what is that?


That is Boxxy. The Queen of /b/.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on January 18, 2011, 01:49:49 AM
Honestly, I can't see Snape playing Nicodemus
I'm not a huge fan of the Potter movies, so I don't see Alan Rickman primarily as Snape.  And I totally think he has the talent to be Nic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on January 18, 2011, 02:00:42 AM
That is Boxxy. The Queen of /b/.

still have no idea
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tbora on January 18, 2011, 02:46:49 AM
Is it just me or is it time for a Perfect Casting pt 3 as long as this thread is?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 18, 2011, 03:09:17 AM
Boxxy for nothing - least of all the Archive.  If it looks like a Kardasian or Snooky it don't belong in this movie.
Not Kristen Bell for Murphy either.  We need actors/actresses with acting chops.
While I love Johnny Depp - he's not Thomas.  Thomas has to be sinisterly beautiful.  Don't laugh - it does exist.
Alan Rickman as Nic - oh my, yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 18, 2011, 03:21:06 AM
Sure.  He does pretty good at everything.  I'd agree with him as Thomas.

Everything except being Willy wonka
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjsharks on January 18, 2011, 03:41:03 AM
Everything except being Willy wonka


That would have been fine if it wasn't a re-make
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 18, 2011, 03:51:34 AM
You don't ruin a great movie by making a remake. Plus I found it creepy and the point was vaguely distracting. I didn't get the point is what I'm saying. How about Nicalous Cage for Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 18, 2011, 04:45:18 AM
Lara Raith - Megan Fox

Eh, I can't advocate this. Megan Fox doesn't seem too bright and Lara Raith is exceptionally clever. Plus, apparently Fox is a PIA to work with so she'd have to be replaced for the second season anyway. ;)

Having seen "Diehard," totally see Rickman as Nic.

Please not Depp as Thomas! PotC was the only thing he was good in and he's never ever seemed sexy to me. And believe me, if I even think for a second Thomas has been miscast, heads will roll! (Come on, girls - I'm justified, right? And not obsessive...uh, right?) ;)

And I'm afraid I can't agree with Kristen Bell as Murphy (I think I've complained about her voice before) or Nicholas Cage as Kincaid.

How about Alex O'Loughlin as Harry? Watch "Moonlight" and you'll know he's got the acting chops and I really think he's got a great look for it, too. Also, while he's not a giant he is over six feet and has a good build for Harry. Thoughts?

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: GWPfark on January 18, 2011, 04:54:07 AM
still have no idea

You can't unhear this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-ASbyfaSR0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-ASbyfaSR0)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 18, 2011, 05:05:10 AM
Hatshep did the rights really revert early
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cass on January 18, 2011, 05:24:54 AM
According to the Q&A session at MarsCon, they did. Really and truly. Not that it means anything's in the works-- just that it's now more possible.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on January 18, 2011, 05:27:06 AM
You can't unhear this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-ASbyfaSR0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-ASbyfaSR0)

5 seconds I watched. not funny. no no no no no no no!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 18, 2011, 07:49:09 AM
Eh, I can't advocate this. Megan Fox doesn't seem too bright and Lara Raith is exceptionally clever. Plus, apparently Fox is a PIA to work with so she'd have to be replaced for the second season anyway. ;)

Having seen "Diehard," totally see Rickman as Nic.

Please not Depp as Thomas! PotC was the only thing he was good in and he's never ever seemed sexy to me. And believe me, if I even think for a second Thomas has been miscast, heads will roll! (Come on, girls - I'm justified, right? And not obsessive...uh, right?) ;)

And I'm afraid I can't agree with Kristen Bell as Murphy (I think I've complained about her voice before) or Nicholas Cage as Kincaid.

How about Alex O'Loughlin as Harry? Watch "Moonlight" and you'll know he's got the acting chops and I really think he's got a great look for it, too. Also, while he's not a giant he is over six feet and has a good build for Harry. Thoughts?



Megan Fox really can't act.  Maybe she could be Trixie Vixen - that's about her speed.
Nick Cage for absolutely NOTHING in a DF movie.  Sorry.

Yes, the rights reverted early but that means nothing at this point.  After the Sorcerer's Apprentice flopped - no one may be willing to do another Wizard film.  But at least JB doesn't have to worry about somebody like the Halmi's making mince meat of his work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjsharks on January 19, 2011, 12:14:31 AM
If Jim truly wants to be successful with a movie about a wizard named Harry, then he either needs to wait a few years for Harry Potter to die down, or start every trailer with Harry explaining his name :P

If he starts a movie now I think you would get too many (brainless) people complaining about him stealing from Harry Potter, kind of like how Darren Shan got endless complaints about coming out with a vampire movie right after the Twilight craze started (by the way, the Cirque Du Freak series came out before Twilight, and he started working on the movie first too ;D)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 19, 2011, 01:11:05 AM
If Jim truly wants to be successful with a movie about a wizard named Harry, then he either needs to wait a few years for Harry Potter to die down, or start every trailer with Harry explaining his name :P

If he starts a movie now I think you would get too many (brainless) people complaining about him stealing from Harry Potter, kind of like how Darren Shan got endless complaints about coming out with a vampire movie right after the Twilight craze started (by the way, the Cirque Du Freak series came out before Twilight, and he started working on the movie first too ;D)

That can both work for you and against you.  While Harry P. is hot, other films about Wizards stand a better chance of getting made, conversely some will see it as you just doing an adult version of HP.  (hardly)  On the other hand, waiting may lead to - oh yeah, Wizards they were hot a while back but they're nothing now.  Pass. 
Unfortunately it isn't about who started first but who gets into the theaters first.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjsharks on January 19, 2011, 01:32:40 AM
That can both work for you and against you.  While Harry P. is hot, other films about Wizards stand a better chance of getting made, conversely some will see it as you just doing an adult version of HP.  (hardly)  On the other hand, waiting may lead to - oh yeah, Wizards they were hot a while back but they're nothing now.  Pass. 
Unfortunately it isn't about who started first but who gets into the theaters first.

Indeed, and the story is different enough from Harry Potter that it could do well right now, if the main character's name wasn't Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 19, 2011, 01:36:37 AM
Indeed, and the story is different enough from Harry Potter that it could do well right now, if the main character's name wasn't Harry.

Again, the working for you/against you thing.  Some people would come to see the movie thinking it's like HP, but would probably stay because HD is dynamite.  Conversely some would come expecting HP and leave.  It's 6 of one, half dozen of another.

The very important thing is a dynamite script and a director who can do it justice.  (AND NO MICHAEL BAY - HE'd just want to blow things up.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjsharks on January 19, 2011, 01:40:41 AM
Again, the working for you/against you thing.  Some people would come to see the movie thinking it's like HP, but would probably stay because HD is dynamite.  Conversely some would come expecting HP and leave.  It's 6 of one, half dozen of another.

The very important thing is a dynamite script and a director who can do it justice.  (AND NO MICHAEL BAY - HE'd just want to blow things up.)

you know, I think that would kinda fit Harry XD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 19, 2011, 01:42:49 AM
you know, I think that would kinda fit Harry XD

Harry does blow things up but please NOT Bay.  You want someone interested in a good story not in how much high explosive he can use up.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 19, 2011, 02:34:39 AM
I think you would have to cut the first 11 books down to 6 movies with Dead Beat as a stand alone

1.Stormfront/Grave peril Shadow man is same in both
2. Fool moon 20 min intro then off to full summer knight
3.Death Masks/proven guilty, mix match
4. Blood Rites/White night mix match
5. Dead beat
6.Small Favor/ Turn Coat
7. Changes/Ghost Story?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjsharks on January 19, 2011, 03:42:18 AM
I think you would have to cut the first 11 books down to 6 movies with Dead Beat as a stand alone

1.Stormfront/Grave peril Shadow man is same in both
2. Fool moon 20 min intro then off to full summer knight
3.Death Masks/proven guilty, mix match
4. Blood Rites/White night mix match
5. Dead beat
6.Small Favor/ Turn Coat
7. Changes/Ghost Story?

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thanatos on January 19, 2011, 04:24:50 AM
How about Noel Fisher for Billy Borden?  He was Cael Malloy in The Riches, and recently played a young coal miner on an episode of Lie to Me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 19, 2011, 04:36:10 AM
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LOL! So true! ;) Some reasonable consolidations, though. As much as I'd like to see 11 Dresden movies I guess combining some of them would be more prudent.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 19, 2011, 06:18:13 AM
The thing to do would be to pick which of the earliest Dresden Books can be rewritten for the screen with the best audience acceptance.  IE - easiest for them to immerse themselves in the Universe.  Do one and then see what happens.

I like Fool Moon myself.  All sorts of werewolves and with the Alphas - you might get the Twilighters into the movie.  I don't like Twilight but I'm not so dumb as to not cater to them in some form.  It has interesting characters on all different levels.

While I'd love to see Michael on the screen - the book where he shows up would be harder to translate to screen.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DLFSquints on January 19, 2011, 08:45:36 AM
Books into movies doesnt usually work unless the book is unknown, hence Die Hard.
A solution that seems to be having more success is to make every 2 to 3 books into a single 13 episode season with a short story in between to separate them out.
For Instance, Season 1: 
Storm Front (6 episodes)
Restoration of Faith (1 episode)
Fool Moon (6 episodes)

OR

Welcome to the Jungle (4 episodes)
Restoration of Faith (1 episodes)
Storm Front (4 episodes)
Fool Moon (4 episodes)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on January 19, 2011, 10:07:33 AM
Books into movies doesnt usually work unless the book is unknown, hence Die Hard.
A solution that seems to be having more success is to make every 2 to 3 books into a single 13 episode season with a short story in between to separate them out.
For Instance, Season 1: 
Storm Front (6 episodes)
Restoration of Faith (1 episode)
Fool Moon (6 episodes)

OR

Welcome to the Jungle (4 episodes)
Restoration of Faith (1 episodes)
Storm Front (4 episodes)
Fool Moon (4 episodes)

I don't know if you can get all of SF and FM into 4 episodes each, even if they are an hour long... Just too much goodness.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: zyada on January 19, 2011, 07:18:18 PM
My favorite picks: 
Johnny Depp as Toot-Toot.   Can't you just see him saying "Harry, have you HAD pizza?"
Alan Rickman as Nicodemus.   If you only think of him as Snape, you have not seen enough of his movies.  There is no one who does elegant menace as well as Alan Rickman.
Angelina Jolie as Lara Raith.  I don't particularly care for her as an actress, but she does have the smoldering sensuality down.
Gary Oldman as Michal.  Just because I love Gary Oldman, and he's a chameleon actor.

Meryl Streep as Mab.  She could even come up with her own accent.   I also think it would be interesting to have the same actress portray both fairy queens.  OTOH, Michelle Pfeiffer has already played Titania once.

(showing my age now)
Billy Crystal as Butters. 
Morgan - Clint Eastwood

As for the rest
If Alexis Denisov plays Harry, I so want Allyson Hannigan to play Lea.  Actually, I'd want Allyson to play Lea either way, but having her play Lea to Alexis' Harry would be hilarious.

Janeanne Garafolo could play Murphy - she has done blonde and she could certainly do the smart-mouth
Karl Urban could play Mac.  Just to get him in the picture.
Sigourney Weaver could play Charity.  She has done blonde as well.

Maybe James Marsters could play Marcone?  Or Bob?

I was thinking about Nicholas Cage as Kincaid, but I'm not attached to it.


Actually, I would prefer to see most of the roles filled by relative unknowns.  Except for Johnny Depp and Alan Rickman.  Those are non-negotiable.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Polop_Monk on January 19, 2011, 07:23:43 PM
Though a long time fan but new to the forum, here are my two cents on casting for a movie;

Harry - Nathan Fillion
Thomas - Timothy Olyphant
Butters - Zack Gallaphinacas
Merlin - Jeff Bridges
Murphy - Sonya Walger
Michael - Richard Dean Anderson, or James Marsters
Sonja - Christopher Judge
Luchio (Old) -
Luchio (Young) -Ashley Green
Molly - Dakota Fanning,
Mouse - Wooly Mammoth (dyed gray)
Billy - Zachary Levi
Ramirez - Taylor Lautner (he could pull it off)
Harry's Land Lord - Betty White


Thats all i could pop off the top of my head, though final thought and I know many have had it, I think James Marsters should play Harry, or at least someone in the Series maybe Michael
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Polop_Monk on January 19, 2011, 07:27:50 PM
Agreeing to a previous post. they need to revive the TV series, or just re-do it. Even Better do a summer mini series for each book.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on January 19, 2011, 11:09:45 PM
Merlin - Jeff Bridges


WHA! I could see him as Eb maybe...but as the British Merlin? Never
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 20, 2011, 02:06:54 AM
Okay, folks here are some of my opinions.
Nathan Fillion is good but he's not Harry.
guys, Michael has a size fourteen shoe - this guy is not as tall as Harry but he far more solidly built.
No - Richard Dean Anderson, James Marsters, or Gary Oldman - they aren't hefty enough.
Gary Oldman, however, would make an evil Nicodemus.
Angelina Jolie for nothing - just because you smolder doesn't mean you can act.
Johnny Depp no for Toot Toot - the part isn't big enough for him. 
Not Jeanine Garafalo for Murphy.
Dakota Fanning is not Molly.
Neither is Meryl Streep - Mab.  Michelle Pfeiffer might be good however.
NO Nick Cage anywhere in this movie.  No Tom Cruise either.
Billy Crystal is too old to play Butters.
Yes to Karl Urban somewhere in the movie. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 20, 2011, 04:32:19 AM
My favorite picks: 
Johnny Depp as Toot-Toot.   Can't you just see him saying "Harry, have you HAD pizza?"


Johny Depp doesn't deserve to be in this movie I want it to be good. what about Jim Carey as Nicademous?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 20, 2011, 04:41:34 AM
Even Better do a summer mini series for each book.

Amen! That would be my pick...you know, if the networks actually cared what I thought. ;)

what about Jim Carey as Nicademous?

*irritated mom voice* Grey Warden, don't make me come over there.  ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 20, 2011, 05:04:02 AM
What *looks around innocently* I don't understand why you're mad.  ;D

Oh and for Toot Toot I can totally see Michael Cera
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 20, 2011, 05:15:21 AM
What *looks around innocently* I don't understand why you're mad.  ;D

Yeah, yeah - innocent, huh? I can just see the halo from here.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 20, 2011, 05:25:39 AM
Yeah, yeah - innocent, huh? I can just see the halo from here.  ;)

I paid good money for that...I mean i earned it duh
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 20, 2011, 04:42:50 PM
Hatshep, I'll join you in that.
GW seems to like to poke the hornets nest to see what will happen.
Well, he's got two hornets here that will show him.  Grumble. ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on January 20, 2011, 08:07:51 PM
I agree with the series Idea maybe HBO or Showtime cineamax for the scence that made Maggie ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on January 20, 2011, 11:42:50 PM
Michael Fassbender for Harry.

I also would love to see the show on Showtime. Each episode would be an hour long, could have as much cursing as it wanted and sex scenes and nudity wouldn't be a big issue (anyone seen Dexter? you know what I mean.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 21, 2011, 01:10:40 AM
I paid good money for that...I mean i earned it duh

Lol! *raises eyebrow* I'm sure...  ::)

Hatshep, I'll join you in that.
GW seems to like to poke the hornets nest to see what will happen.
Well, he's got two hornets here that will show him.  Grumble. ::)

Yep, I know. *sigh* One of these days, the hornets are going to get him for sure. I knew you'd be with me on this - he really needs us here just to keep him in check.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 21, 2011, 01:17:37 AM
Lol! *raises eyebrow* I'm sure...  ::)

Yep, I know. *sigh* One of these days, the hornets are going to get him for sure. I knew you'd be with me on this - he really needs us here just to keep him in check.  ;)

I think that he likes being a "gadfly", being "edgy".  So sometimes I just roll my eyes quietly and let him burble on.
However - IF I hear Tom Cruise one more time I may go postal on him. ;D  Care to join me - I can provide a two by four or a framing hammer - both have a lot of weight behind them.  (Wicked Evil Grin)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Electric MacButters on January 21, 2011, 02:24:06 AM
Am I the only person who pictures Bob Newheart as Father Forthill?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 21, 2011, 02:34:21 AM
Tom Cruise Tom Cruise Tom Cruise Tom Cruise Tom Cruise Tom Cruise Tom Cruise

On an unrelated note I was serious about Micheal Cera

On a better Unrelated note I think Jason Straham would make a good kincaid with out hair
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 21, 2011, 02:40:56 AM
I think that he likes being a "gadfly", being "edgy".  So sometimes I just roll my eyes quietly and let him burble on.
However - IF I hear Tom Cruise one more time I may go postal on him. ;D  Care to join me - I can provide a two by four or a framing hammer - both have a lot of weight behind them.  (Wicked Evil Grin)

Lol! You sound like you speak from experience about the weight behind those things. You've gone postal before, huh?  ;) Yeah, give me the two-by-four. I can always turn it into a wooden stake and go for the Buffy approach - stab it before it can finish its evil incantation. In GW's case that means cutting him off before he calls for "Tom Cruise as Harry Dresden" or "Jim Carey as Nic" or whatever his big bad is for that week.  ;D

Am I the only person who pictures Bob Newheart as Father Forthill?

Wow, he looks exactly like what I've always pictured him as, only a bit too old now. Still, it could work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 21, 2011, 02:45:22 AM
Why does everyone hate my choices  ??? I only do what I think best for the dresden community. ;D

Okay So let me see Rachel McAdams for Bianca I haven't done that one I don't think

Oh and I changed my sig for my own safety
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 21, 2011, 02:57:48 AM
Why does everyone hate my choices  ??? I only do what I think best for the dresden community. ;D

Okay So let me see Rachel McAdams for Bianca I haven't done that one I don't think

Oh and I changed my sig for my own safety

LOL!!!! Love your new sig!  :D ;D

On that female vampire note, how about Melinda Clarke as Lara Raith? She was in one of the last episodes of Firefly as Inara's old mentor and the head of a brothel. She's very sexy and seems both smart and dangerous. (For anyone who watches Nikita, I think she showed up there, too - although I'm not sure.) Thoughts?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 21, 2011, 02:59:31 AM
You know i can see that for Laura or Ariana
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 21, 2011, 03:15:18 AM
You know i can see that for Laura or Ariana

Hm, you're right - she could certainly work for Ariana as well.

On an amusing sidenote, I had fogotten which character was Ariana (I know, its just aweful) and when I looked her up, this sentance was in her biography: "In Proven Guilty, she was one of the bidders on Harry Dresden when Madrigal Raith tried to sell him on eBay." Its just written so dignified, as if that's the most normal thing in the world. Cracked me up. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 21, 2011, 06:13:28 AM
Lol! You sound like you speak from experience about the weight behind those things. You've gone postal before, huh?  ;) Yeah, give me the two-by-four. I can always turn it into a wooden stake and go for the Buffy approach - stab it before it can finish its evil incantation. In GW's case that means cutting him off before he calls for "Tom Cruise as Harry Dresden" or "Jim Carey as Nic" or whatever his big bad is for that week.  ;D

Wow, he looks exactly like what I've always pictured him as, only a bit too old now. Still, it could work.

Hey Hatshep2, I used to work at the studios as a carpenter so I've handled my share of two by fours, and hammers.
 And yes I do know about the weight behind them. (Wicked Evil Grin)
I think with GW - it's whatever the annoyance of the week is. ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tbora on January 21, 2011, 06:21:06 AM
Who would play Deidre?

It would have to be someone in her mid teens, and more importantly how would they deal with the 'cesty kissing scenes with Nick (who would be played by someone old like Alan Rickman or Anthony Hopkins)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 21, 2011, 12:14:26 PM
Hey Hatshep2, I used to work at the studios as a carpenter so I've handled my share of two by fours, and hammers.
 And yes I do know about the weight behind them. (Wicked Evil Grin)
I think with GW - it's whatever the annoyance of the week is. ::)

Lol! No kidding.  :D

Who would play Deidre?

It would have to be someone in her mid teens, and more importantly how would they deal with the 'cesty kissing scenes with Nick (who would be played by someone old like Alan Rickman or Anthony Hopkins)

Hm, very good question. I tend to think the directors would make it easy on themselves and just skip it. Otherwise, I guess they'll just have to pick a young-looking 18 year old and run with that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 22, 2011, 02:20:19 AM
Hey I resent that i pick who i honestly think would be good for the movies snow
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 22, 2011, 05:04:07 AM
Hey I resent that i pick who i honestly think would be good for the movies snow

Even so, Tom Cruise comes up a bit too much for your motives to be as pure as the driven snow. Let's just face it - picking on Snow and me is kinda fun, too.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 22, 2011, 06:52:09 PM
But we're perfectly capable of picking back.  (Wicked Evil Grin!!)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on January 22, 2011, 08:38:08 PM


On a better Unrelated note I think Jason Straham would make a good kincaid with out hair

I actually see him as Mac. You know in the Dresden final Trilogy Mac will be some crazy awesome God of something and be kicking ass.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on January 22, 2011, 11:44:58 PM
I actually like Statham for Kincaid, maybe use some artistic license to let him to the shaved head look though because he looks a little odd with hair.  To me at least. 
I still maintain that Capn Mal would be a great Harry although I also like Karl Urban for the role.
Thomas I think should be Matt Bomer( I know he's a favorite here among the ladies)
Erica Cerra simply must be Susan.
I am pretty open on Murphy so far no one jumps out at me but I've seen several that would be great. 
Bob should be voiced by His Jimness because, c'mon, that would just be cool. 8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 23, 2011, 01:58:40 AM
Bob should be voiced by His Jimness because, c'mon, that would just be cool. 8)


Yeah, that would be pretty cool. In my opinion it should be either him or James Marsters. Marsters has a lot of voice talent (all the accents he can do - plus his awesomeness voicing the DF audio book, of course.) If anybody can do Bob justice and make him come to life it would be James Marsters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 23, 2011, 02:32:15 AM
Yeah, that would be pretty cool. In my opinion it should be either him or James Marsters. Marsters has a lot of voice talent (all the accents he can do - plus his awesomeness voicing the DF audio book, of course.) If anybody can do Bob justice and make him come to life it would be James Marsters.

I like that idea, hatshep2.  Spike for Bob!! ;D

Wizard H, I like Karl Urban better for Harry.  Nathan Fillion isn't tall enough nor does he really have the right coloring for Harry.  I'm not saying he's not good but just not right for Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Magnus on January 23, 2011, 06:02:42 AM
from Jim Butchers twitter:

Quote
Hmmm. How about Mads Mikkelsen for Morgan in the fantasy-casting movie?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on January 23, 2011, 06:20:53 AM
from Jim Butchers twitter:

I love it that he joins in on this kind of stuff with us!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 23, 2011, 06:13:23 PM
from Jim Butchers twitter:



????  Who is this Mikkelsen?  I'm afraid I don't know him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on January 23, 2011, 06:18:00 PM

????  Who is this Mikkelsen?  I'm afraid I don't know him.

Here you go (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0586568/)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 23, 2011, 06:19:33 PM
Here you go (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0586568/)



Thanks LD.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on January 23, 2011, 06:22:33 PM
Thanks LD.

You're welcome. :)

And now I want to speculate what part of the world Morgan is from, and if there's a reason Jim suggests a Danish actor to play him.  8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on January 23, 2011, 06:26:59 PM
Hmmm We know that Morgan Fought in the WWI but do we know which side?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tbora on January 23, 2011, 06:31:43 PM
Pretty sure he fought for the british.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Magnus on January 23, 2011, 07:05:12 PM
Hmm I thought Jim recommended Mads Mikkelsen since his role in Casino Royale was very Morgan, but now I can't find that tweet.

EDIT: Sorry, it wasn't Jim who said that but someone who replied to his tweet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 23, 2011, 08:30:41 PM
Hey, I like that idea. I really think he could pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 24, 2011, 04:38:19 PM
I actually like Statham for Kincaid, maybe use some artistic license to let him to the shaved head look though because he looks a little odd with hair.  To me at least. 
I still maintain that Capn Mal would be a great Harry although I also like Karl Urban for the role.
Thomas I think should be Matt Bomer( I know he's a favorite here among the ladies)
Erica Cerra simply must be Susan.
I am pretty open on Murphy so far no one jumps out at me but I've seen several that would be great. 
Bob should be voiced by His Jimness because, c'mon, that would just be cool. 8)


I really think He is just too well muscled to be Dresden, Fillion has put on a lot since he was capt mal
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fulkrum78 on January 24, 2011, 07:14:09 PM
My thought for Harry - Karl Urban.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on January 24, 2011, 08:31:52 PM
Maybe...I'm not so sure she has enough life to play Luccio, though. Summer Glau has been great in everything I've seen her in but I think that's largely due to the types of roles she gets (emotionally unstable, robotic, etc.) I tend to think that Glau has strange mannerisms in real life, too - ones that she can't overcome for a role. She hasn't had to because there are plenty of "off" roles for her to play but still...I'm not sure she's got the acting ability to pull of the complicated Luccio. 

She had a guest role in the Unit, and it was like a whole different actress.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 25, 2011, 01:07:50 AM
She had a guest role in the Unit, and it was like a whole different actress.

Really? I've never watched The Unit so I haven't seen her performance there. Interesting - maybe I can find some clips from her performance and see what I think. Thanks, Warden.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on January 25, 2011, 03:10:16 AM
My thought for Harry - Karl Urban.

No.  Like the actor, but no.

Really? I've never watched The Unit so I haven't seen her performance there. Interesting - maybe I can find some clips from her performance and see what I think. Thanks, Warden.  :)

glad to oblige
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on January 25, 2011, 03:40:58 AM
this is somewhat random but how in the name of god is this thread not at part 3 yet!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 25, 2011, 04:12:38 AM
Stop that vash I rather like this thread it shows all of my good ideas, and it shows all of them being shot down by SL and hs2
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 25, 2011, 04:16:24 AM
Stop that vash I rather like this thread it shows all of my good ideas, and it shows all of them being shot down by SL and hs2

WHAT GOOD IDEAS????  (Pausing to blow smoke from revolver)
Actually GW, was a good comment on Nathan Fillion - he has gotten a tad more stocky than what Harry requires.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on January 25, 2011, 04:28:55 AM
You must have made some good suggestions when I wasn't looking, because all of your usual ones are TERRIBLE!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tbora on January 25, 2011, 04:31:54 AM
this is somewhat random but how in the name of god is this thread not at part 3 yet!

This to the thousandth power.

I have asked about this multiple times and even have PMed Pris once, but no response.

I do believe this is currently the longest thread active on the site;
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 25, 2011, 04:33:37 AM
This to the thousandth power.

I have asked about this multiple times and even have PMed Pris once, but no response.

I do believe this is currently the longest thread active on the site;

It such a fruitful topic, Tbora, for both inspiration and irritation. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 25, 2011, 04:33:47 AM
Hey I resent that, Just because over the course of these pages my suggestions of Tom Cruise, Ben Athelek, Michael Weston as Butters, Rachel McAdams as Susan, John Travolta as Marcone, NPH as Thomas, and any others have gone unheaded does not mean other suggestions like Fillion as Michael  should be disounted
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tbora on January 25, 2011, 04:39:08 AM
It such a fruitful topic, Tbora, for both inspiration and irritation. ;D

Yes but its length is against Fred's desires.

He does not want topics to get this long because they slow the servers down.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 25, 2011, 04:42:50 AM
If we make a new one then my sig will be useless and we can't have that
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 25, 2011, 04:44:48 AM
Yes but its length is against Fred's desires.

He does not want topics to get this long because they slow the servers down.

I did not know that.
GW, Sigh, no, no, no - Nathan Fillion is not Michael. He's too puckish in looks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 25, 2011, 05:07:57 AM
puckish? i do not understand the meaning of such a word  ???
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 25, 2011, 05:18:42 AM
puckish? i do not understand the meaning of such a word  ???

Means he looks too mischievious, too prankish for Michael.
Michael has to inspire confidence immediately in people.
His goodness and his decency are openly apparent.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on January 25, 2011, 05:21:03 AM
And part of the reason Fillion is so good as devil-may-care smuggler and cheeky author is because he IS a cheeky, devil-may-care rogue.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 25, 2011, 05:24:13 AM
And part of the reason Fillion is so good as devil-may-care smuggler and cheeky author is because he IS a cheeky, devil-may-care rogue.

Very true.  He might be good as the talk show host who keeps suing Harry.  I forget his name.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on January 25, 2011, 05:35:39 AM
LARRY FOWLER!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 25, 2011, 05:57:44 AM
I think he would make a good Steed now that I think of it a cameo appearance
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 25, 2011, 05:00:45 PM
I think he would make a good Steed now that I think of it a cameo appearance

Sigh, no, Chandler you mean?  The Brit Warden that Harry calls Steed.  Because he probably looks a bit like Patrick MacNee.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: montrealdrew on January 26, 2011, 05:52:50 AM
Hello im new here and im not sure if many folks will understand this casting  but when i saw mike holmes from holmes on holmes on hgtv i said to my wife that he was the perfect michael  (which her haveing not read the books got me a strange look)
first post
hopefully they get better
drew
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 26, 2011, 02:57:57 PM
Hello im new here and im not sure if many folks will understand this casting  but when i saw mike holmes from holmes on holmes on hgtv i said to my wife that he was the perfect michael  (which her haveing not read the books got me a strange look)
first post
hopefully they get better
drew

Welcome to the forum, montrealdrew!!! :) I'll have to keep my eye on that when I eventually watch them (I've recorded every episode but haven't found the time to watch them yet.)

Btw, excellent point about Fillion's cheekiness, Snowleopard and Warden. I hadn't figured it out but that's exactly what makes him unqualified for Michael.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on January 26, 2011, 07:19:03 PM
Hello im new here and im not sure if many folks will understand this casting  but when i saw mike holmes from holmes on holmes on hgtv i said to my wife that he was the perfect michael  (which her haveing not read the books got me a strange look)
first post
hopefully they get better
drew
I don't know if he can act, but physically I can see it. :)

ETA:  And he even builds (well fixes) houses.  Perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: zyada on January 27, 2011, 03:12:58 PM
Here's why I think Alan Rickman should play Nicodemus:

My Mistress' Eyes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK-sQebRdiw)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 27, 2011, 05:46:34 PM
Here's why I think Alan Rickman should play Nicodemus:

My Mistress' Eyes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK-sQebRdiw)

You won't get a lot of argument from a lot of people on that suggestion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 27, 2011, 07:26:45 PM
Here's why I think Alan Rickman should play Nicodemus:

My Mistress' Eyes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK-sQebRdiw)

Um...wow. That's awesome! I mean, I was already on the bandwagon but...wow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on January 27, 2011, 08:27:24 PM
Do I HAVE to play the Hannibal Lechter card again?  Anthony Hopkins gets my Nicodemus Vote.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tbora on January 27, 2011, 09:33:11 PM
Nicodemus is described as looking to be in his late 40's, Anthony Hopkins is too old imo.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 29, 2011, 02:03:27 AM
*cough* Tom Cruise *cough*
 
Let's see how about George Cloony I think he would fit the profile just fine.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 29, 2011, 02:15:02 AM
Sigh, do I have to get out the two by four, GW.
Repeat after me - NO TOM CRUISE not now - not ever.
As for Clooney - the only role he might be good for would be Nicodemus.  Very casting against type.
But he's a lot like Fillion, very puckish in looks in some respects.
NO Harry, no Michael, no Thomas, no Chandler, no Morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 29, 2011, 02:33:14 AM
Nic is who i meant for cloony
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 29, 2011, 02:35:51 AM
Nic is who i meant for cloony

Ah, he might be an interesting casting against type choice but up against Rickman or Oldman - he hasn't got the menace of those two.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on January 29, 2011, 03:21:15 AM
Nah, I could never see Clooney being menacing enough for Nic.  I could maybe, maybe see him as marcone if he built up a little and played it very cool, calm and calculating.  However I'm just not sure it's in his range.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 29, 2011, 05:33:21 AM
He just has to look like he could kill you without trying that is cloony
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 29, 2011, 07:25:13 AM
Nic should carry his years on him without showing it.
Clooney can do young menace but not eons old menace like Rickman or Oldman.

Had a great thought for Eb.  Fred Dalton Thompson.  He's older, balding and Southern.
He was the airport/control tower head in Die Hard 2.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000669/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on January 29, 2011, 10:25:27 AM
*cough* Tom Cruise *cough*
 

fine. I know the perfect role for him. Kirby in TC.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 29, 2011, 05:48:46 PM
Yeah, I just can't see having Clooney in a DF movie. You just can't take Clooney seriously enough and you need to be able to take Nic - and Marcone, too - very seriously. *graciously ignores GW's mention of Tom Cruise*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 29, 2011, 10:45:20 PM
Someone mentioned tom cruise you know i can see him as harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on January 29, 2011, 10:47:01 PM
Someone mentioned tom cruise you know i can see him as harry
They'd just use the opposite of the tricks used to make the actors playing hobbits in LoTR seem half as tall, to make Tommy seem twice as tall, right?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjsharks on January 30, 2011, 12:34:53 AM
This should probably go in the comedy thing, not here, but I can't resist.

Chuck Norris created the color black. In fact, Chuck Norris created every color. Except pink. Tom Cruise created pink.

;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 30, 2011, 03:06:53 AM
NO TOM CRUISE FOR ANYTHING IN A DF MOVIE!!
End of rant.  Man can't act and would destroy the movie trying to make it fit him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on January 30, 2011, 03:08:28 AM
Realistically, I suspect Tom Cruise would demand more control over the project than Jim would be willing to give him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on January 30, 2011, 03:16:05 AM
Realistically, I suspect Tom Cruise would demand more control over the project than Jim would be willing to give him.
also Harry is not a midget
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 30, 2011, 03:27:05 AM
Realistically, I suspect Tom Cruise would demand more control over the project than Jim would be willing to give him.

Hey, Paramount dropped Cruise as one of their major stars.  Studios DO NOT do that unless the actor is somehow being a real pain in the tuchis.  And while MI3 or whatever number it was didn't do as well as expected - it wasn't so bad that the studio would respond that way.  Something else was going on behind the scenes.  Cruise would mutate the heck out of a DF script - to a point where you'd hardly recognize it as JB's work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 30, 2011, 03:45:40 AM
Hey, Paramount dropped Cruise as one of their major stars.  Studios DO NOT do that unless the actor is somehow being a real pain in the tuchis.  And while MI3 or whatever number it was didn't do as well as expected - it wasn't so bad that the studio would respond that way.  Something else was going on behind the scenes.  Cruise would mutate the heck out of a DF script - to a point where you'd hardly recognize it as JB's work.

Very good points, Snowleopard - amen to that! Even if he were a good actor and looked right for the part he still wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on January 30, 2011, 03:47:23 AM
NO TOM CRUISE FOR ANYTHING IN A DF MOVIE!!
End of rant.  Man can't act and would destroy the movie trying to make it fit him.

ahem

fine. I know the perfect role for him. Kirby in TC.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 30, 2011, 04:11:08 AM
Hey IC, TC wouldn't take on so minor a role without, again, mutating the heck out of it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjsharks on January 30, 2011, 05:04:55 AM
Hey IC, TC wouldn't take on so minor a role without, again, mutating the heck out of it.

You mean he would make it a more violent death :o ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 30, 2011, 05:07:14 AM
You mean he would make it a more violent death :o ;D

No, he probably would have the character somehow take out the Shag and survive horrible wounds that no WW could while HD dithered in the background wringing his hands.  That kind of mutation.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on January 30, 2011, 05:13:42 AM
also Harry is not a midget
See my previous post about camera tricks and special effects. If they can make Elijah Wood et al look like hobbits, they can make Tom Cruise look like not a hobbit. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 30, 2011, 05:17:05 AM
See my previous post about camera tricks and special effects. If they can make Elijah Wood et al look like hobbits, they can make Tom Cruise look like not a hobbit. ;)

See my post about TC ruining a HD movie by making it all about TC not about HD.
Don't care about his height - care that he can't act and doesn't make good story choices and wants authors to modify their work for him even if it destroys the story.  He did that with one writer fortunately who didn't sell out and his script was picked up by an actor who did it justice.  True story.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 30, 2011, 05:18:39 AM
See my post about TC ruining a HD movie by making it all about TC not about HD.
Don't care about his height - care that he can't act and doesn't make good story choices and wants authors to modify their work for him even if it destroys the story.  He did that with one writer fortunately who didn't sell out and his script was picked up by an actor who did it justice.  True story.

I'm intrigued - which movie was that and who ended up playing the role?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 30, 2011, 05:24:55 AM
I'm intrigued - which movie was that and who ended up playing the role?

I think it was the movie(not sure of title) = In the Line of Fire - about the SS guy who was at Kennedy's assasination and wasn't able to protect the president.  Come forward to present day where an assassin is threatening the current president and, I didn't see the movie, may have shot Kennedy and the older SS agent is in the middle of it all.
The writer of the script who was in deep financial trouble was approached by Cruise's people about the script.  When the writer pointed out that the hero had to have been alive and an adult at the time of the Kennedy assassination - he was basically told that he could change it and make the hero younger.  Thus completely destroying the whole idea of the script.  The writer passed on Cruises offer though he, as I said, was in deep financial trouble.  Fortunately Clint Eastwood came along and bought the script.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on January 30, 2011, 06:03:54 AM
See my post about TC ruining a HD movie by making it all about TC not about HD.
Don't care about his height - care that he can't act and doesn't make good story choices and wants authors to modify their work for him even if it destroys the story.  He did that with one writer fortunately who didn't sell out and his script was picked up by an actor who did it justice.  True story.
Oh, I'm not advocating for Tom Cruise to have anything to do with anything Dresden.  I'm just making cracks about the fact that he's about five-foot-nothing and has a massive Napoleon complex. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 30, 2011, 06:37:06 AM
Oh, okay - thanks, Snowleopard. Good for that writer, sticking to his guns like that!

Oh, I'm not advocating for Tom Cruise to have anything to do with anything Dresden.  I'm just making cracks about the fact that he's about five-foot-nothing and has a massive Napoleon complex. ;)

Lol! He does seem to, at that.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 30, 2011, 06:52:10 AM
*glad everyone forgot it was he who mentioned TC agian*

 yes well how about *sad* heath Ledger for Madrigal Wraith in "Perfect" Casting
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 30, 2011, 07:13:06 AM
*glad everyone forgot it was he who mentioned TC agian*

 yes well how about *sad* heath Ledger for Madrigal Wraith in "Perfect" Casting

I'd certainly approve of that - although I'd actually rather seem him as Thomas in this "Perfect Casting" scenario. He's one of the few who could actually pull of the long, curly hair and make it look natural and sexy. I know he was a blond but just darken it a little and I could forgive that. *sigh* He was a great actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on January 30, 2011, 10:06:46 AM
I'm really thinking of Craig Bierko. The dude's a great actor (obviously has a sense of humor), has the look of Harry already and is 6' 5''

And JUST found an inteview he did for scary movie 4, he even (to me) SOUNDS like Harry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il52a40YToY

(http://www.osirisshoes.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/gallery/06young_hollywood_awards_6_3_07/Craig_Bierko.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SmartAlec on January 30, 2011, 04:17:13 PM
Do I HAVE to play the Hannibal Lechter card again?  Anthony Hopkins gets my Nicodemus Vote.

Would have said Sam 'The Omen/Event Horizon' Neill myself, but I think he's gotten a little too old too, sadly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on January 30, 2011, 07:34:40 PM
It's a shame as I agree with you on that one. 
Hows'about

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTcyNDIxMzcxN15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTM4MjcyMQ@@._V1._SX180_SY251_.jpg)

David Wenham for Nicodemus?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 30, 2011, 09:00:45 PM
David Wenham for Nicodemus?

He seems kind of young but I think he'd do a great job. He's so versitile (for proof, just look at his roles in LOTR and Van Helsing) and personally, I'd really love to seem him do such a scary role. Good pick!  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on January 30, 2011, 11:01:40 PM
NO.

TOM.

CRUISE.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on January 30, 2011, 11:10:52 PM
It's a shame as I agree with you on that one.  
Hows'about

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTcyNDIxMzcxN15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTM4MjcyMQ@@._V1._SX180_SY251_.jpg)

David Wenham for Nicodemus?

Damn I love me some David Wenham. Not sure why I didn't think of him earlier. A little young for Nic (I always imagined Colm Feore as Nic), but should definitely be somewhere. Lemme think on this.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on January 31, 2011, 06:13:08 AM
There are two roles I could see Tom Cruise doing; either Larry Fowler or Madrigal Raith. The man can actually act, as evidenced by his role in Tropic Thunder. Nothing else though.

While I still stand by my earlier suggestion of Timothy Dalton as Nicodemus, Alan Rickman would also do a damn good job.

As for other characters...
-Terrence Stamp for The Merlin.
-Adrien Brody for Kincaid (I'm basing this on his performance in Predators, which proves that not only can he play a badass convincingly, he can do the gravely, Clint Eastwood-esque voice that Christian Bale fails at as Batman.)
-Eddie Izzard as the voice of Bob. I think he'd be a pretty good fit for Butters, but I'm not sure how well he can sound american, since he sounds extremely British.
-Julian Richings fo Grevane. Grevane's described as pretty gaunt and corpselike already, and he definitely fits the bill. (He's Death on Supernatural, if that helps.) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0724995/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0724995/)
-Danny Trejo for The Red King. Yeah, I know that the RK is supposed to be kinda short, but whatever. We need someone who can be intimidating as the RK, and he qualifies.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 31, 2011, 06:23:54 AM
There are two roles I could see Tom Cruise doing; either Larry Fowler or Madrigal Raith. The man can actually act, as evidenced by his role in Tropic Thunder. Nothing else though.

While I still stand by my earlier suggestion of Timothy Dalton as Nicodemus, Alan Rickman would also do a damn good job.

As for other characters...
-Terrence Stamp for The Merlin.
-Adrien Brody for Kincaid (I'm basing this on his performance in Predators, which proves that not only can he play a badass convincingly, he can do the gravely, Clint Eastwood-esque voice that Christian Bale fails at as Batman.)
-Eddie Izzard as the voice of Bob. I think he'd be a pretty good fit for Butters, but I'm not sure how well he can sound american, since he sounds extremely British.
-Julian Richings fo Grevane. Grevane's described as pretty gaunt and corpselike already, and he definitely fits the bill. (He's Death on Supernatural, if that helps.) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0724995/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0724995/)
-Danny Trejo for The Red King. Yeah, I know that the RK is supposed to be kinda short, but whatever. We need someone who can be intimidating as the RK, and he qualifies.

Tom Cruise, to the best of my knowledge, was NOT in Tropic Thunder.
And NO Tom Cruise in a DF movie anywhere.  Not now - not never.

Possible suggestion for Harry - Chris Pine - I know his eyes are blue but you could cover that with contacts.
He's tall and hawk featured and he can act.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on January 31, 2011, 06:35:12 AM
Tom Cruise, to the best of my knowledge, was NOT in Tropic Thunder.


yes he was, he was the fat executive movie guy, planning on getting the insurance money on the actors deaths or something. that's probably why you don't remember him, he was bald and wearing glasses and a fat suit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 31, 2011, 06:37:36 AM
yes he was, he was the fat executive movie guy, planning on getting the insurance money on the actors deaths or something. that's probably why you don't remember him, he was bald and wearing glasses and a fat suit.

Okay, I stand corrected.  Still NO Tom Cruise in a DF movie.  NOT EVER!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on January 31, 2011, 09:35:20 AM
Honestly, if he was just in a bit part, I would be ok with it. He's not a bad actor, he's just a bit crazy.

-Lara Raith=Stana Katic (No, this idea is in no influenced by the fact that she would have to be almost nude for the role at some point, not at all.)
-Another idea for Bob's voice: Quentin Tarantino.

And I hadn't thought of Chris Pine before, since he seems a bit young, but he might work as Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on January 31, 2011, 12:20:45 PM
I'm a big fan of Chris Pine, myself, so you won't here any complaints from me, either.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on January 31, 2011, 02:51:09 PM
I like the Danny Trejo idea.  And the Stana Katic idea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: scotcat on January 31, 2011, 04:44:23 PM
NO.

TOM.

CRUISE.

Agreed.  No Tom Cruise in a DF movie. Ever.

I think Eddie Izard would be great as Bob's voice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on January 31, 2011, 09:24:50 PM
I just realized, I don't think we've cast Mac yet.

So...Bruce Willis? Because I can't think of anyone else who's bald and would look like the kinda guy to speak in grunts and monosyllables. Patrick Stewart has the Bald part, but you can't have Stewart and not have him talk.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 01, 2011, 12:47:55 AM
Patrick Stewart would make a good Merlin
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 01, 2011, 03:28:41 AM
agreed.

and agreed on Bruce Willis, especially if what I suspect about Mac is true.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 01, 2011, 03:30:42 AM
agreed.

and agreed on Bruce Willis, especially if what I suspect about Mac is true.

Naw, I'm not all that fond of Patrick Stewart for Merlin.  Too expected in my books.
Bruce Willis for Mac - I don't know.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 01, 2011, 04:11:14 AM
I think Jeff Bridges would be great as Eb, he did a good job in True Grit which besides the plot failing was a great movie due to dialogue of Jeff and the girl

PS the whole movie I was hoping the girl would shoot Matt damon
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 01, 2011, 02:57:12 PM
Thanks to the eyepatch he wears in that movie, I've been picturing Bridges as Odin. But I think that Eb would be a much better role for him. If I had to pick someone for Odin right now...Ron Perlman.
(http://www.smartturnout.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/brian_blessed_001_110906.jpg)
OR BRIAN BLESSED!

Since the Thor movie didn't do it, someone should. I guess they thought that BRIAN BLESSED as Odin would be too much for any human to handle. And yes, you do have to put BRIAN BLESSED's name in all caps whenever you type it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CHAR2056 on February 01, 2011, 03:24:14 PM
On another thread I said I would like to see Joshua Jackson as Dresden
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1487310080/nm0005045 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1487310080/nm0005045)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 01, 2011, 06:18:06 PM
Actually I have l ways seen BRIAN BLESSED as Eb. in a similar vein what about Derek Jacobi as Nic?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 01, 2011, 06:22:19 PM
On another thread I said I would like to see Joshua Jackson as Dresden
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1487310080/nm0005045 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1487310080/nm0005045)

I could...actually see this happening.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 01, 2011, 07:24:26 PM
No Tom Cruise














not even as a victim somewhere?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 01, 2011, 08:52:56 PM
No Tom Cruise














not even as a victim somewhere?

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO TOM CRUISE IN A DF MOVIE - NOT NOW - NOT EVER!!!!
NOT EVEN AS A VICTIM.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 01, 2011, 09:47:59 PM
So guuuuys I thought we were past the whole Tom Cruise thing, I even mentioned a legitimate casting choice
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 01, 2011, 09:52:41 PM
So guuuuys I thought we were past the whole Tom Cruise thing, I even mentioned a legitimate casting choice

Wasn't aimed at you GW, Shades of Grey brought it up.
I was just making my position clear. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dunedainjedi on February 01, 2011, 09:59:25 PM
On another thread I said I would like to see Joshua Jackson as Dresden
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1487310080/nm0005045 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1487310080/nm0005045)
He can seriously act, pull off badass, be funny as hell.

Yeah. That could go pretty well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 01, 2011, 11:19:01 PM
Has anybody been watching The Cape?  I believe Summer Glau was brought up for a specific role and it was shot down on account of her wooden style. With the new evidence I would like to revisit that decision.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dunedainjedi on February 01, 2011, 11:24:42 PM
Has anybody been watching The Cape?  I believe Summer Glau was brought up for a specific role and it was shot down on account of her wooden style. With the new evidence I would like to revisit that decision.
That would really depend on the part. If someone is about to suggest Molly, I really don't think she'd fit. Maeve or Aurora or Lily? Yes please.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 01, 2011, 11:38:41 PM
I know I suggested her for Luccio 2.0.

Actually I have l ways seen BRIAN BLESSED as Eb. in a similar vein what about Derek Jacobi as Nic?

Nah, I can't really see Eb being that hammy. Or loud.
Jacobi would work really well for Nicodemus, now that you mention it. I still stand by my original choice of Timothy Dalton, with Alan Rickman as alternate.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 01, 2011, 11:39:32 PM
I know I suggested her for Luccio 2.0.


And having seen her in The Cape I now agree.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dunedainjedi on February 01, 2011, 11:52:45 PM
I'll hop on board the Glauwagon. She could work for Luccio 2.0.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 02, 2011, 02:27:51 AM
I'll hop on board the Glauwagon. She could work for Luccio 2.0.

I don't see Glau for Luccio 2.0 but I do think she'd be good for Maeve.

As for Eb, as I commented earlier in this thread - Fred Dalton Thompson would make a good Eb, tall, balding and Southern.
And he can look pissed off and mean.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tim2.0 on February 02, 2011, 02:11:46 PM
This is a shot in the dark but every time i watch the metalist i see Robin Tunneys character as murphy. Would have to die her hair blond but the mannerisms and hard tough chick personalit is perfect.
Also always see Sasha Alexader from NCIS as Eliane. dont know have any real reason behind it but it is what i picture
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on February 03, 2011, 12:15:09 AM
I could see Glau as Luccio 2.0.  I think Ed Asner would make a great Eb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 03, 2011, 02:28:58 AM
BRIAN BLESSED is it not always hammy watch the old PBS I Claidius is see him not beong hammy which brings to my mind a good Merlin John Hurt or maybe him as Mort.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 03, 2011, 02:49:11 AM
I don't know why, but I picture Mort looking something like Kurt Fuller, just a bit shorter.
Here's his IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0298281/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 03, 2011, 05:13:39 AM
YES!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 03, 2011, 11:43:48 PM
The hair yes I know I pciked a balding actor but Mot to me is creepier
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 05, 2011, 05:39:47 AM
I'll hop on board the Glauwagon. She could work for Luccio 2.0.

Yes and I love the Cape
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 05, 2011, 11:31:21 PM
Glau's face looks like it's been botoxed - maybe Maeve but not Lucio.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 06, 2011, 03:50:40 AM
Glau's face looks like it's been botoxed - maybe Maeve but not Lucio.

Agreed. And if she can act, she really might make a good Maeve.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 06, 2011, 05:56:23 AM
eh
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 07, 2011, 03:32:04 PM
Nivvr thought I'd agree with GW in the Casting Thread.  Glau for Luccio 2.0.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 07, 2011, 05:05:53 PM
Nivvr thought I'd agree with GW in the Casting Thread.  Glau for Luccio 2.0.

No, no, no, no - too botoxed looking.  Lucio has to have a VERY expressive face.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 07, 2011, 06:16:17 PM
but she's described (as 2.0) as being Hot Coed.  That's Glau in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 07, 2011, 06:21:47 PM
but she's described (as 2.0) as being Hot Coed.  That's Glau in a nutshell.

Yeah, but said hot coed has to be able to act.  Glau is too wooden for my tastes.
And given Lucio's history you need someone with a very mobile, very expressive face and body.
That's not Glau.  Sorry.  Of course this is my opinion, everyone has their own opinions.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 07, 2011, 08:08:19 PM
You obviously have not seen The Cape.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 07, 2011, 08:11:37 PM
You obviously have not seen The Cape.

No, I shall have to check it out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 07, 2011, 08:48:59 PM
SG is icing on the cake of a fun show.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Starbeam on February 07, 2011, 11:34:32 PM
Yeah, but said hot coed has to be able to act.  Glau is too wooden for my tastes.
And given Lucio's history you need someone with a very mobile, very expressive face and body.
That's not Glau.  Sorry.  Of course this is my opinion, everyone has their own opinions.
Summer Glau actually is quite expressive, except when she was in SCC, but she was playing a robot in that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 08, 2011, 02:20:18 AM
old mind hot young body perfect Glau Scales from the cape could be morgan
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 08, 2011, 02:27:20 AM
Was watching a recent episode of Detroit 187 and had a though for Micheal, James Gadalfini ( goes and hides to avoid the loud WTFs
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 08, 2011, 02:30:17 AM
Was watching a recent episode of Detroit 187 and had a though for Micheal, James Gadalfini ( goes and hides to avoid the loud WTFs

Yeah, adds another loud WTF.  No, I don't think so.  Michael has to instantly inspire trust in people.  Gandalfini does NOT do that.
He, I'm sorry, looks like what he played - a mobster.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 08, 2011, 03:28:26 AM
I want to point out leo for marcone I think he could pull it off
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 08, 2011, 07:26:01 AM
My suggestions for casting.  Sorry if I repeat some, 207 pages is abit much to read through.

Thomas: WWE wrestler John Morrison.
Ebenezer:  Wilford Brimly or Ed Asner.
Butters:  the guy who played the assistant coach on Evening Shade.
Injun Joe:  the old indian from Outlaw Josie Wales (yes, I know he's dead)
Ancient Mai: the old chinese pirate from Pirates of the Carribean; Land's End.
Langtry (merlin): The guy who played Saruman(sp?) in the Two Towers.
Morgan: Liev Schrieber (sp?)
Micheal: the guy who played Boromir in Lord of the Rings.
Sanya: Alonso Bodin (from last comic standing)

Sorry for not knowing all their names.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 08, 2011, 05:52:58 PM
My suggestions for casting.  Sorry if I repeat some, 207 pages is abit much to read through.

Thomas: WWE wrestler John Morrison.
Ebenezer:  Wilford Brimly or Ed Asner.
Butters:  the guy who played the assistant coach on Evening Shade.
Injun Joe:  the old indian from Outlaw Josie Wales (yes, I know he's dead)
Ancient Mai: the old chinese pirate from Pirates of the Carribean; Land's End.
Langtry (merlin): The guy who played Saruman(sp?) in the Two Towers.
Morgan: Liev Schrieber (sp?)
Micheal: the guy who played Boromir in Lord of the Rings.
Sanya: Alonso Bodin (from last comic standing)

Sorry for not knowing all their names.

Lol - wouldn't that be "World's End?" ;)

I picture her as much better looking than that - not hot or anything but like an elegant and poised young woman whose time has passed.

I like the idea of Christopher Lee (aka Saruman) playing Langtry. Largely because Lee does an excellent bad guy and I have my own opinions/suspicious about ol' Langtry and where his loyalties lie.

Not Liev Schreiber - seems too unintelligent and thuggy to me. Yeah, I know - Harry likes to villify Morgan. But filtering past Harry's heavy bias, he's definately an intelligent and non-thug kind of guy. I'm kind of thinking Tim Roth could do a good job, although I'm not sure if he's too small and sneaky-seeming to play the generally straightforward Morgan.

Not Sean Bean (aka Boromir) for Michael I'm afraid. I'm a huge Michael fan and I really don't get the right vibe from him, although I'd like to see him play someone else - maybe even Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ren on February 08, 2011, 05:54:35 PM
I can so see Wilford Brimley as Ebenezer...right down to the 'stache....8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 08, 2011, 06:00:46 PM
I can so see Wilford Brimley as Ebenezer...right down to the 'stache....8)

I think Brimley is too grumpy grandpa for Eb.
Eb is older but I suspect you don't think of him as a curmudgeon but rather as someone older who's still dangerous.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ren on February 08, 2011, 06:41:53 PM
You've never seen the demon-eyes picture of Wilfred that is floating around the Interwebs have you? Creeeepy...8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on February 08, 2011, 07:07:50 PM
Lol - wouldn't that be "World's End?" ;)

I picture her as much better looking than that - not hot or anything but like an elegant and poised young woman whose time has passed.

I like the idea of Christopher Lee (aka Saruman) playing Langtry. Largely because Lee does an excellent bad guy and I have my own opinions/suspicious about ol' Langtry and where his loyalties lie.

Not Liev Schreiber - seems too unintelligent and thuggy to me. Yeah, I know - Harry likes to villify Morgan. But filtering past Harry's heavy bias, he's definately an intelligent and non-thug kind of guy. I'm kind of thinking Tim Roth could do a good job, although I'm not sure if he's too small and sneaky-seeming to play the generally straightforward Morgan.

Not Sean Bean (aka Boromir) for Michael I'm afraid. I'm a huge Michael fan and I really don't get the right vibe from him, although I'd like to see him play someone else - maybe even Kincaid.
I think it is important to rememb er that Ancient Mai is Ancient even by wizard standards.  I definitely don't think there should be any girlish or young womanly features.  She should be imposing, regal, even elegant in her dress sure.  But I think she should look like someone's tough ass great grandma who seems to power on by sheer force of will.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 08, 2011, 07:10:38 PM
Scales from the cape could be morgan

And the balance is restored.  No.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ren on February 08, 2011, 07:36:51 PM
Agreed, Vinnie Jones is SO not Morgan material...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 09, 2011, 12:16:18 AM
In one of his twitter posts, Jim said that Clancy Brown would be Morgan.
Now, I give you proof.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iixNQp-z6zU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iixNQp-z6zU&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnO1gIU_GmM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnO1gIU_GmM)

And here's He Who Walks Behind's voice (the link should start the video when the Beast starts talking)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h2nSvP5lMQ&feature=related#t=1m35s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h2nSvP5lMQ&feature=related#t=1m35s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbNxhu-5img&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbNxhu-5img&feature=related)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 09, 2011, 06:30:20 AM
And the balance is restored.  No.

Leonardo Decaprio as Marcone he is perfect


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 09, 2011, 07:05:07 AM
Land's End/World's End...you got the point.

Michael would have to be fairly buff, and a good actor.  Can play righteous, fatherly and badass. 

As for the voice of Bob...I think Tim Curry did great in the TV show.  Let him be Bob again.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 09, 2011, 01:28:46 PM
 For Harry, what about Kevin Durand. He's big, can look mean, and was a stand-up comic once. Seems like a good fit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 09, 2011, 04:57:34 PM
Leonardo Decaprio as Marcone he is perfect

Yeah I am ignoring the bandwagon fan that is WJM above me because like i said he is a bandwagon fan


No, Decaprio is NOT a Marcone.  He can do bad ass but not at Marcone's level - he's also too young.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 09, 2011, 07:03:30 PM
Leonardo Decaprio as Marcone he is perfect

Yeah I am ignoring the bandwagon fan that is WJM above me because like i said he is a bandwagon fan

Bandwagon fan my left
(click to show/hide)
.  I agree or disagree based on how I  see the character.  I'm still pulling for Geofrey Rush for Morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thanatos on February 09, 2011, 09:15:09 PM
I think Brimley is too grumpy grandpa for Eb.
Eb is older but I suspect you don't think of him as a curmudgeon but rather as someone older who's still dangerous.
I imagine this guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hqJ9DkaVM4) As Ebenezar, though he isn't exactly an actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 09, 2011, 09:42:51 PM
Bandwagon fan my left
(click to show/hide)
.  I agree or disagree based on how I  see the character.  I'm still pulling for Geofrey Rush for Morgan.

*whisper* packers *whisper*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 09, 2011, 09:59:20 PM
I recent found the actress to play Murph her name is Megan Dodds she is currently playing and FBI agent on Dtroit 187 alas I am not computer savay enough to post a picture. :'(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 09, 2011, 10:05:05 PM
As for the voice of Bob...I think Tim Curry did great in the TV show.  Let him be Bob again.
Wait, what? Are we talking about the Dresden Files TV show? Because Bob was not played by Tim Curry. The actor was Terrence Mann. I am, however, fully in support of having Tim Curry in some role. Because he's awesome. I still stand by Eddie Izzard as Bob's voice. But whoever we choose, they must be british. I can't imagine Bob without at least a slight British accent. Apart from Marsters, of course.

Also, I finally found someone who could probably do Marcone; Mark Harmon (Gibbs on NCIS). And please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks he looks like John Barrowman with grey hair.

I recent found the actress to play Murph her name is Megan Dodds she is currently playing and FBI agent on Dtroit 187 alas I am not computer savay enough to post a picture. :'(
Hmmm...
(http://www.rachelswords.org/multimedia/dodds.gif)
Bellmaker, you might be onto something with her.

*whisper* packers *whisper*
I, for one, vote that no discussion of football should occur in this thread. Too much potential for getting off topic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 09, 2011, 10:19:43 PM
I can see Tim Curry as Nic.

There shall be no football discussions in this thread.  The season's over.  Go Packers.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 09, 2011, 10:22:37 PM
Wait, what? Are we talking about the Dresden Files TV show? Because Bob was not played by Tim Curry. The actor was Terrence Mann. I am, however, fully in support of having Tim Curry in some role. Because he's awesome. I still stand by Eddie Izzard as Bob's voice. But whoever we choose, they must be british. I can't imagine Bob without at least a slight British accent. Apart from Marsters, of course.

Also, I finally found someone who could probably do Marcone; Mark Harmon (Gibbs on NCIS). And please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks he looks like John Barrowman with grey hair.
Hmmm...
(http://www.rachelswords.org/multimedia/dodds.gif)
Bellmaker, you might be onto something with her.
I, for one, vote that no discussion of football should occur in this thread. Too much potential for getting off topic.

TC - this enormous thread is all about who we'd like to see for a Dresden Files Movie if ever such a thing would occur.
Keeps fingers tightly crossed.   As for getting off topic.  Brief pause - ROTFLMAO -  other than the threads which are designated as staying tight on topic - thread derailment is an olympic sport around here.
As for Harmon, you're right he does look a bit simular to John Barrowman.  Don't know about Marcone - I was suggesting Chris Melonie for Marcone.  Way,way meaner looking.
Actually you just gave me an idea.  John Barrowman for Chandler - the British Warden that Harry calls Steed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 09, 2011, 10:29:31 PM
TC - this enormous thread is all about who we'd like to see for a Dresden Files Movie if ever such a thing would occur.

As for Harmon, you're right he does look a bit simular to John Barrowman.  Don't know about Marcone - I was suggesting Chris Melonie for Marcone.  Way,way meaner looking.
Actually you just gave me an idea.  John Barrowman for Chandler - the British Warden that Harry calls Steed.

I was talking about the fact that exartiem said that Tim Curry played Bob, which never happened. (Unfortunately. If it had, maybe there would've been more than one season.) And after taking a look, I think Chris Meloni would make a decent Marcone.

Oh, and I might have said this before, but just in case...Here's Lea.
(http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/julianne-moore/pictures/julianne-moore-picture-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 09, 2011, 10:33:35 PM
I was talking about the fact that exartiem said that Tim Curry played Bob, which never happened. (Unfortunately. If it had, maybe there would've been more than one season.) And after taking a look, I think Chris Meloni would make a decent Marcone.

Oh, and I might have said this before, but just in case...Here's Lea.
(http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/julianne-moore/pictures/julianne-moore-picture-2.jpg)

Actually it wasn't the skill, of which there was plenty, of the actors or who was playing what.  Even with Tim Curry there wouldn't have been another season.  DF was shot down because the SyFy channel doesn't understand SF and does NOT want to spend money on any kind of good product.  They shot down DF for Pain Killer Jane and then shot down Jane for that abomination - Flash Gordon.
Because it was 'cheaper' not better, not as good, but cheaper!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 09, 2011, 10:42:13 PM
hmm yes why don't you see leo as marcone he could be made to look slightly older and you already shot down travolta who looks the part definately
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 09, 2011, 10:46:01 PM
hmm yes why don't you see leo as marcone he could be made to look slightly older and you already shot down travolta who looks the part definately

I just don't GW.  Maybe it's typecasting on my part.
Marcone is older and more steeped in the culture of his role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 09, 2011, 10:51:10 PM
eh meybe
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on February 09, 2011, 10:54:04 PM
Marcone,
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_F2SffPd59jk/TTnysFyaqrI/AAAAAAAABfs/flX4lGUdNMQ/s400/fat_tony.gif)
end of story
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on February 10, 2011, 01:01:02 AM
Oh I saw a mattrix scene in some video clip and thought hugo weaving would be a good choice for Nic. he's creepy and not exactly hollywood pretty . kind of how I imagine Nic.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 10, 2011, 01:16:02 AM
Age him and he'd be a great Merlin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thanatos on February 10, 2011, 01:27:37 AM
I still think of Jamey Sheridan as Nicodemus, because of his Randall Flagg role.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/FlaggMovieSheridan.jpg)
This picture makes me think of the parley between Nic and Harry at the aquarium in Small Favor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 10, 2011, 01:42:32 AM
I think it is important to rememb er that Ancient Mai is Ancient even by wizard standards.  I definitely don't think there should be any girlish or young womanly features.  She should be imposing, regal, even elegant in her dress sure.  But I think she should look like someone's tough ass great grandma who seems to power on by sheer force of will.

I agree - like I said, I'm not lobbying for some hot young thing...or even some hot middleaged thing. I just think that the woman in PotC can't have been pretty when she was young, which is not the idea you should get from Mai. As you said, she should be "regal" and "elegant" and the PotC actress looks way to weathered, not somebody who's spent most of thier life indoors, as I believe Mai has.

Hm, Clancy Brown as Morgan - that could work. And not just because its JB. ;)

Give Leonardo DeCaprio another 10 years and then heck yeah! (And I'm just as shocked as you GW that I'm actually agreeing, lol.)  ;D

Quote
Can play righteous, fatherly and badass.

Lol! Yep, that's Micahel for you. Exactly the reasons I love him so much. (Plus the buff part - you know, if we're really being honest about this.) ;)

Quote
I recent found the actress to play Murph her name is Megan Dodds.

We have officially found Murphy!!! Bless you, bellmaker!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

Quote
Oh, and I might have said this before, but just in case...Here's Lea.

Now what actress is that again? I'd have to know that to evaluate her acting potential but looks-wise that is so Lea.

And now let me appologize for this insanely long post...I've been buried in homework all week so you'll have to cut me a break. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 10, 2011, 02:14:14 AM
Give Leonardo DeCaprio another 10 years and then heck yeah! (And I'm just as shocked as you GW that I'm actually agreeing, lol.)  ;D

Yeah  ;D it was inception that did it. The whole attitude of it really spoke to me in a marcone voice
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 10, 2011, 02:17:12 AM
Don't do it.  I can't sit through his films.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 10, 2011, 02:47:37 AM
Don't do it.  I can't sit through his films.
\


Leo? have you not seen inception it is spectacular and wow
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 10, 2011, 02:50:19 AM
I will, of course, give it a chance, but only when I can watch it in my own home where I have the option to turn over the channel when I can't take any more.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 10, 2011, 02:58:22 AM
It is pretty mind blowing shades it is a masterpiece of Christopher Noylan who wrote it for ten years then directed it.

He also directed
-The prestige
-Batman Begins
-Dark Knight
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on February 10, 2011, 03:02:22 AM
It is pretty mind blowing shades it is a masterpiece of Christopher Noylan who wrote it for ten years then directed it.

He also directed
-The prestige
-Batman Begins
-Dark Knight
so he made 1 good movie  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 10, 2011, 03:04:05 AM
3 which one did you choose? The Prestige? Are you hating on my Batman?  :'(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 10, 2011, 04:11:00 AM
Now what actress is that again? I'd have to know that to evaluate her acting potential but looks-wise that is so Lea.

Julianne Moore.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 10, 2011, 06:36:13 AM
I was talking about the fact that exartiem said that Tim Curry played Bob, which never happened. (Unfortunately. If it had, maybe there would've been more than one season.) And after taking a look, I think Chris Meloni would make a decent Marcone.

I stand corrected.  I think I can be forgiven.  They do look alike.  I looked them both up. 

Tim Curry could do Marcone then.  He can do creepy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thanatos on February 10, 2011, 06:58:00 AM
I stand corrected.  I think I can be forgiven.  They do look alike.  I looked them both up. 

Tim Curry could do Marcone then.  He can do creepy.
What? No, completely wrong look.  Marcone is supposed to look like a football coach.
You might want to see more recent pictures of Mr. Curry, such as images 8 and 9 on his IMDB page.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on February 10, 2011, 12:50:45 PM
(http://www.tvworthwatching.com/blog/2008/03/27/Friday-Night-Lights.jpg)
Marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 10, 2011, 01:48:13 PM
 Another good Murphy is Angela Dotchin. She was with Bruce Campbell in Jack of all trades.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 10, 2011, 01:55:11 PM
 posted in another forum. Robert Duvall as Eb. McCoy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 10, 2011, 04:17:13 PM
^Win.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 10, 2011, 04:20:56 PM
Fred Dalton Thompson as Eb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 10, 2011, 04:50:33 PM
Nope, Duvall for Eb.  Definately.

Good choice for Marcone in the pic, if you age him a little.

Who was the girl in Million Dollar Baby?  Would she make a good Murph?

I haven't seen Tim Curry recently.  My last image of him (since I was wrong about the Bob thing) was as the doctor in Hunt for Red October. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 10, 2011, 04:54:07 PM
Nope, Duvall for Eb.  Definately.

Good choice for Marcone in the pic, if you age him a little.

Who was the girl in Million Dollar Baby?  Would she make a good Murph?

I haven't seen Tim Curry recently.  My last image of him (since I was wrong about the Bob thing) was as the doctor in Hunt for Red October.  

Chris Meloni for Marcone - can be far more menacing then Kyle Chandler.
I think that was Hilary Swank in Million Dollar Baby.
I'd sooner see Tim Curry as Nic or one of the other Denarians.  He does crazy so well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thanatos on February 10, 2011, 05:01:10 PM
Maybe Christopher Lloyd could play Cassius (snake Denarian) or even the Merlin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 10, 2011, 05:14:17 PM
Don't do it.  I can't sit through his films.

My mom didn't used to like his movie but she loved Inception. He's really matured as an actor and the movie isn't pushing him as God's gift to women or anything. He's just a great character in an awesome movie. I sincerely hope you give Inception a fair chance - and soon! I really think you'll love it. My mom, dad, sister, brother, and grandmother all loved it as well and for my brother and my grandmother to adore the same movie says it must be phenomenal and have a very broad appeal.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 10, 2011, 05:25:30 PM
so he made 1 good movie  ;D

I'm afraid I agree that of those three, Prestige was the only winner. Batman, in my humble opinion, was terrible, with flat characters and no good sense of rise and fall. In addition to that fact that I strongly dislike the wooden acting of Christian Bale. (I know, he managed to skate by in the Prestige but only because of the type of character he played - and don't even get me started on his terrible representation of my beloved John Connor.) *pound fist angily into wall* Okay, I'm better now.

Julianne Moore.

Yeah, I really like her for Lea. She's so got the part for me.

And fantazero, I love that guy for Marcone! If he can act I really think he could pull it off beautifully. :)

Maybe Christopher Lloyd could play Cassius (snake Denarian) or even the Merlin.

Nah, Cassius isn't that old and Lloyd always looks to suprised to play the scheming Langtry. And don't worry, I'm not just basing that on his adorable performance in Back To The Future. Still, there's got to a role for him somewhere.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 10, 2011, 08:46:07 PM
Since Cowl's voice is distorted by magic and stuff, it would be possible to cast someone as his voice, and have someone else do the actual movement and stuff. I nominate Mark Hamil for that, since his voice for The Watcher in Darksiders is nice and raspy. If we need someone to be in the costume and do the talking, I pick Peter Stormare. Watch the scene from Constantine with him as Lucifer for reference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNa2DjCQhg8

And honestly, while Tim Curry is good at playing villains, I can't see him as Nicodemus. Not enough opportunity to Ham it up. And it's a crime if you have Tim Curry and don't let him ham it up.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjsharks on February 10, 2011, 11:35:30 PM
(http://www.tvworthwatching.com/blog/2008/03/27/Friday-Night-Lights.jpg)
Marcone

I'm pretty sure Marcone isn't a blonde girl ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 11, 2011, 03:40:01 AM
I'm pretty sure Marcone isn't a blonde girl ;D

 :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 11, 2011, 03:49:12 AM
I'm pretty sure Marcone isn't a blonde girl ;D

liar  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 11, 2011, 08:00:56 PM
And honestly, while Tim Curry is good at playing villains, I can't see him as Nicodemus. Not enough opportunity to Ham it up. And it's a crime if you have Tim Curry and don't let him ham it up.

I agree, he is quite the large ham.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on February 11, 2011, 10:37:13 PM
Daniel Cudmore. Played Colossus in the 2nd and 3rd X-Men movies. He's 6'7"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 11, 2011, 11:04:22 PM
My Cast list-

Harry Dresden- Timothy Olyphant
Karrin Murphy- Allison Mack
Thomas Raith- Josh Duhamel
Bob- Eddie Izzard
Molly Carpenter- Amber Heard
Michael Carpenter- Jeremy Irons
Charity Carpenter- Ali Larter
Sanya- Aldis Hodge
Marcone- Neal Mcdonough
Susan- Eva Mendes
Mac- Neil Flynn
Mab- Sharon Stone (think basic instinct 2?)
Lea- Elena Satine
Morgan- Rutger Hauer
Lasciel- Olivia Wilde
Ebenezar McCoy- Billy Connolly
Lara Raith- Angelina Jolie
Butters- David Krumholtz
Merlin- Christopher Lee

Olyphant and Duhamel could be brothers, Amber Heard is just WOW, but the Sidhe are tough to peg, especially the winter court. All those who have been suggested are either too old or too warm. Mab needs to be cold and statuesque. And I always imagined Lea as beautiful, yet slightly unstable looking.
See my choice for Lea here: (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XcFdwH4T64I/TD8w_gdve_I/AAAAAAAACGI/ObbmCc-sQ5o/s1600/Elena+Satine+23.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 11, 2011, 11:05:59 PM
Also, Amber Heard: (http://fivealarmbees.com/users/justin/pictures/Amber%20Heard)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 12, 2011, 12:56:04 AM
Olyphant and Duhamel could be brothers, Amber Heard is just WOW, but the Sidhe are tough to peg, especially the winter court. All those who have been suggested are either too old or too warm. Mab needs to be cold and statuesque. And I always imagined Lea as beautiful, yet slightly unstable looking.
See my choice for Lea here: (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XcFdwH4T64I/TD8w_gdve_I/AAAAAAAACGI/ObbmCc-sQ5o/s1600/Elena+Satine+23.jpg)

nice
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 01:03:37 AM
I think that picture (barring the sweater, of course) sums up Lea perfectly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 12, 2011, 02:02:22 AM
I'll buy Amber Heard for Molly.
But not Jeremy Irons for Michael.  Does not have the face or the build for Michael.
And while I like Josh Duhamel - he's too ruggedly handsome for Thomas. 
And no Angelina Jolie for Lara.  Not quite right.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 02:20:55 AM
Michael's tough. Nathan Fillion is too snarky for michael, and there are VERY few actors who are paragons of hope, virtue, AND badassery. And personally, I think Lara is all a matter of personal taste.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 02:21:49 AM
That, and Josh Duhamel simply because of how similar he looks to Timothy Olyphant, and acting ability.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 12, 2011, 02:23:38 AM
Michael's tough. Nathan Fillion is too snarky for michael, and there are VERY few actors who are paragons of hope, virtue, AND badassery. And personally, I think Lara is all a matter of personal taste.

Michael may be tough but he should instantly inspire hope and confidence.  Jeremy Irons doesn't do that.  He'd be great for Nic though.  Paul Gross for Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 02:45:12 AM
Is he bulky enough? I feel like Harry described him as a rather built individual.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 12, 2011, 02:47:26 AM
Is he bulky enough? I feel like Harry described him as a rather built individual.

He's bulkier than Jeremy Irons, and you can make someone look bulkier with costume also.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tbora on February 12, 2011, 02:47:46 AM
Charlie Sheen for Mortimer Linquist.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 02:55:51 AM
Fair point.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 12, 2011, 03:01:42 AM
I don't know about that one.  Sheen isn't behaving well off camera these days and insurance companies DO NOT like to have people like that on a movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 03:03:09 AM
By saying fair point, I was replying to you, Snow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 12, 2011, 03:09:36 AM
Okay, sorry I didn't see that post brd9214.
My comment about not know about that one was in regards to Sheen.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 03:22:34 AM
No need to apologize :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 12, 2011, 03:26:02 AM
Hey, I was brought up - if I goof - I apologise.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 03:30:35 AM
Fair enough. People like you, me, aaaaand good ol' Harry show that being old fashioned isn't necessarily out of fashion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 12, 2011, 03:32:45 AM
Fair enough. People like you, me, aaaaand good ol' Harry show that being old fashioned isn't necessarily out of fashion.

No, frankly I think we should be the new, upcoming fashion myself.
Too many people have become very rude and impolite.
My city, Los Angeles is now ranked with ruder people than New York. ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 12, 2011, 03:33:43 AM
My Cast list-

Harry Dresden- Timothy Olyphant
Karrin Murphy- Allison Mack
Thomas Raith- Josh Duhamel
Bob- Eddie Izzard
Molly Carpenter- Amber Heard
Michael Carpenter- Jeremy Irons
Charity Carpenter- Ali Larter
Sanya- Aldis Hodge
Marcone- Neal Mcdonough
Susan- Eva Mendes
Mac- Neil Flynn
Mab- Sharon Stone (think basic instinct 2?)
Lea- Elena Satine
Morgan- Rutger Hauer
Lasciel- Olivia Wilde
Ebenezar McCoy- Billy Connolly
Lara Raith- Angelina Jolie
Butters- David Krumholtz
Merlin- Christopher Lee

Hmmm, Neal McDonough might work for Marcone. Honestly, though, I think if we can just fine someone who looks like a more sinister version of George Clooney, we'd have our Marcone. Maybe it's just because I'm so used to seeing Clooney in suits of some sort (ocean's 11, 12, 13) but that's really close to what I imagine Marcone looking like.

And as for Eva Mendes...I think she might make a good Susan, but I've never pictured her as quite that curvy. Curvy, yes, but not to that degree. Neil Flynn as Mac? Damn, why didn't I think of him. I guess because I can't imagine him bald like Mac. And as for Angelina, I think she's too artificial looking. Especially in the face area. Once again, I suggest Stana Katic. And Olivia Wilde as Lash is something I will support. Although she might also work as Elaine.

My cast list:
Harry=Alexis Denisof
Murphy=Megan Dodds
Bob=Eddie Izzard
Morgan=Clancy Brown
Ebenezar=Jeff Bridges (although Billy Connoly would also work)
Merlin=Either Christopher Lee or Terrence Stamp
Martin=Keanu Reeves
Kincaid=Adrien Brody (Again, basing this off Predators, where he was a total badass)
Lara=Stana Katic
Erlking (Voice)=Keith David
Cowl=Peter Stormare
Thomas=Matt Bomer
Malcom Dresden=Nathan Fillion
Skinwalker (Voice)=Gabriel Woolf
Nicodemus=Timothy Dalton
Bianca=Monica Bellucci
Red King=Danny Trejo
Lea=Julianne Moore
He Who Walks Behind (Voice)=Ron Perlman

And that's all I've got for now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 12, 2011, 03:53:49 AM
I whole heartedly disagree with Alex Denisof he wears glasses and well reminds me more of butters
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 03:57:09 AM
Neil Flynn just struck me as the sort of actor who could express miles with a grunt.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 12, 2011, 04:00:07 AM
I was watching the newest season of castle and it looks like fillion has lost some weight I hereby petition for him to be Dresden
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 04:08:51 AM
You have no idea how much I would love Fillion to be Dresden. I just don't think he's lanky enough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 12, 2011, 04:10:56 AM
getting there CGI
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 04:34:56 AM
The irony of having a cgi'd dresden is outstanding.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 12, 2011, 04:56:55 AM
Now that I think about it, Neil Flynn could also make a decent Artemis Bock.

I whole heartedly disagree with Alex Denisof he wears glasses and well reminds me more of butters

Butters? How on earth do you get that? And I'm going with Denisof because he's one of the people Jim suggested in either this thread or some other place. Not perfect, but he does kind of look the part. Michael weatherly might work too. I'll have to assess that further when I finally get my hands on season 1 of NCIS. My school's internet has gone down the drain since tuesday, so it's hard for me to watch any videos on the internet.

And besides, there are such things as contact lenses.

Oh, and have Jason Mewes and Kevin Smith as Third-Eye junkies in Storm Front.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 12, 2011, 05:20:38 AM
The Merlin in my book (no pun intended) has always been Bill Nighy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 05:30:58 AM
He does look like an Arthur Langtry, doesn't he?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 12, 2011, 05:43:21 AM
He does look like an Arthur Langtry, doesn't he?

yes
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 12, 2011, 05:44:10 AM
You know, that was another person I'd considered. I'm not sure how well he'd be able to pull off a beard, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Serack on February 12, 2011, 05:58:29 AM
And Olivia Wilde as Lash is something I will support. Although she might also work as Elaine.

I just read this passage in Changes and thought "Olivia Wilde"

"She was tall and beyond beautiful- like most of the Sidhe are.  Her skin was fair and flawless, her eyes enormous, slightly oblique orbs of emerald green."

Which of course describes Lea, Olivia.

Give her a red die job and I think she would be perfect for Lea.

http://www.tejavideos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Olivia-Wilde-2.jpg (http://www.tejavideos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Olivia-Wilde-2.jpg)

Common, put some points on those ears, and make the hair red and it's Lea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 12, 2011, 06:06:51 AM
Yep or Olivia Wilde as Luccio 2.0
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 06:27:24 AM
or Olivia Wilde as lasciel... Hey who was that woman from Silent Hill?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 06:29:17 AM
Also, how has nobody postulated Bill Murray as Bob?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 12, 2011, 06:31:48 AM
Also, how has nobody postulated Bill Murray as Bob?

If they have I don't know of it.
Myself, I'm not really in favor of it.
I see Bob as being somewhat more intelligent sounding than that.
Tim Curry for Bob now that I could see.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 12, 2011, 06:46:24 AM
Not gonna lie, when I look for people would be able to pull off Bob, I simply imagine them saying "And they have BOOBS!" Silly, but still...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 12, 2011, 06:48:40 AM
Terrence Mann played Bob on the show and I think he's best.

Graham Greene for Listens-to-Wind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 12, 2011, 06:50:44 AM
Terrence Mann played Bob on the show and I think he's best.

Graham Greene for Listens-to-Wind.

One would hope in the movie that Bob would be portrayed as he is in the books.  A talking skull.  Instead of a person.
I'm going on voices for Bob.
Wes Studi for Listens-to-Wind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 12, 2011, 07:32:35 AM
Mark Hammel for Bob he did a great job on the Joker in Batman Arkham Asylum
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 12, 2011, 07:35:40 AM
There's another Native-American actor I'm thinking of.  I can see his face in my mind but I can't think of what he's been in, so I can't look him up. >:(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 12, 2011, 07:47:10 AM
Nevermind.  I looked up N.A. actors and found Wes Studie.  He's who I was thinking of.  He's "Injun" Joe.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 12, 2011, 08:05:31 AM
Also, how has nobody postulated Bill Murray as Bob?

Because for some reason, I think Bob needs to have a British accent, even if it's a very slight one.

Mark Hammel for Bob he did a great job on the Joker in Batman Arkham Asylum

Nah, a bit too crazy for Bob. Thorned Namshiel, on the other hand...
And yes, I'm aware he has vocal range, but still. And again, needs a british accent of some sort. I have no idea why. Maybe exposition just sounds better with one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on February 12, 2011, 12:18:20 PM
Because for some reason, I think Bob needs to have a British accent, even if it's a very slight one.

Nah. Jim reads Bob as very American... which brings us back to my insistence that Jim himself voice Bob. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 12, 2011, 04:15:31 PM
Liam Neeson as Michael.  Too old?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 12, 2011, 05:07:22 PM
i would accept jim as bob
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 12, 2011, 05:16:40 PM
Too stoic for Bob.

Seriously.  He looks good in a beard, he can handle a sword without chopping off a toe, he can do accents (Briar Gates hillbilly accent still gets me).  He can do righteous, fatherly and badass all at the same time.

Is he too old for Michael?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 12, 2011, 05:21:44 PM
yes
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 12, 2011, 07:47:44 PM
Yeah, I'm afraid so. Btw, I love the idea of Bill Nighty as Langtry. Ever since the "Underworld" movies I've really fallen for his performance of bad guys - very cool. (And I guess I just let my anti-Langtry bias slip a little, huh?) ;)

I'll say again: James Marsters for Bob!!! Just think of all of his cheeky lines as Spike and you know he could pull off Bob. And he can do an English or American accent, whichever you'd prefer.  ;D My only regret is that Bob is represented as a skull so James Marsters' gorgeous looks wouldn't make it into the movie. Still, his voice is pretty darn sexy so I guess I'll survive.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 12, 2011, 07:58:07 PM
Yeah, I'm afraid so. Btw, I love the idea of Bill Nighty as Langtry. Ever since the "Underworld" movies I've really fallen for his performance of bad guys - very cool. (And I guess I just let my anti-Langtry bias slip a little, huh?) ;)

I'll say again: James Marsters for Bob!!! Just think of all of his cheeky lines as Spike and you know he could pull off Bob. And he can do an English or American accent, whichever you'd prefer.  ;D My only regret is that Bob is represented as a skull so James Marsters' gorgeous looks wouldn't make it into the movie. Still, his voice is pretty darn sexy so I guess I'll survive.

Could always do a digital x-ray scan of Marsters head (or Jim's for that matter!) just like they did for Nic Cage in Ghost Rider. It's his skull. So yeah.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 12, 2011, 08:12:08 PM
Could always do a digital x-ray scan of Marsters head (or Jim's for that matter!) just like they did for Nic Cage in Ghost Rider. It's his skull. So yeah.

Hey, good point! And Marsters has very distinct cheekbones so it would be kind of cool for everybody watching to know that it was really him.

And going a little off topic here, that reminds me of something I've always thought should happen in DF: Harry makes an escape from somewhere and grabs Bob on the way out, only to realize he got the wrong skull. Later, Bob is insulted because Harry couldn't tell him apart from "all those ugly skulls out there."  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 12, 2011, 09:17:18 PM
Could always do a digital x-ray scan of Marsters head (or Jim's for that matter!) just like they did for Nic Cage in Ghost Rider. It's his skull. So yeah.

great idea
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 13, 2011, 07:04:28 AM
Guys, guys;
I have been watching a bit of Torchwood, just for the heck of it (and because James Marsters was in one episode and he is awesome.)

Anyway,
JOHN BARROWMAN FOR THOMAS! WHO'S WITH ME? (Only problem I can see is that he looks a bit too wholesome, but he's a good actor.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 13, 2011, 01:43:11 PM
JOHN BARROWMAN FOR THOMAS!

I would have to agree, Capt Jack is very much like Thomas...

I see Jeffrey Morgan as Micheal...

And Geoffrey Rush as Father Forthill...

Sean Connery as Eb McCoy...

And I think Jim would do a great bob since he intimately knows the character ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on February 13, 2011, 02:01:19 PM
Joe Flanigan would be a good match in size/description... but Nathan Fillion has the better drama/comic range.

I vote yes for James Marsters as Bob. 

I would be totally down with the idea of digitally scanning all the actors to capture their facial movements, and then rendering the whole series in 3D animation.  Then age is no longer a problem and you can make the series last as long as their voice can sound the age it should be.

It frees up so many other things too, now you aren't bound by physicality for finding the right actor to look like their characters description and you can prioritize the choices by their acting range and vocal ability for the part.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 13, 2011, 03:57:56 PM
JOHN BARROWMAN FOR THOMAS! WHO'S WITH ME? (Only problem I can see is that he looks a bit too wholesome, but he's a good actor.)

Have you ever seen anyone who looked more like Tom Cruise? Wow. Anyway, I'm not sure he's quite right for the complexity of Thomas - as you said, he looks a little too wholesome, more the hot-headed hero look than the angelic and mysterious bad boy.

Joe Flanigan would be a good match in size/description... but Nathan Fillion has the better drama/comic range.

I vote yes for James Marsters as Bob. 

I would be totally down with the idea of digitally scanning all the actors to capture their facial movements, and then rendering the whole series in 3D animation.  Then age is no longer a problem and you can make the series last as long as their voice can sound the age it should be.

It frees up so many other things too, now you aren't bound by physicality for finding the right actor to look like their characters description and you can prioritize the choices by their acting range and vocal ability for the part.

Hurray!!! Another vote for Marsters as Bob!  ;D

I like the idea of doing it all in digital because of the freedom it provides but I'm not so sure the technology is there yet. I mean, they've done movies like that - looking so much better than I would have thought possible - but it still gets rubbery in spots. So I'm not sure I'm ready for DF to be that way - at least not just yet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 13, 2011, 05:01:12 PM
I would have to agree, Capt Jack is very much like Thomas...

I see Jeffrey Morgan as Micheal...

And Geoffrey Rush as Father Forthill...

Sean Connery as Eb McCoy...

And I think Jim would do a great bob since he intimately knows the character ;)

There seems to be something wrong with Google Image Search. I tried looking for Jeffrey Morgan, but it keeps giving me pictures of Javier Bardem. (Seriously, the resemblance is eerie)
And I've never really had much of an image for Forthill in my mind, but Rush looks a bit too creepy for the part.
And while Connery is awesome, I'd prefer to see Jeff Bridges as Eb. At least he'd bother with the accent.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 13, 2011, 05:37:18 PM
(http://www.availableimages.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/jeffrey.jpg) (http://backseatcuddler.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/javier_bardem.jpg)
Jeffery                                                           Javier

Your right it is eerie...

Bridges would work too i guess...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on February 13, 2011, 05:43:25 PM
Adam Baldwin as Warden Morgan!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 13, 2011, 06:13:22 PM
Hm...actually, Jeffrey Dean Morgan could make a great Michael. He's certainly the closest match that I've heard so far. I'd want him to beef up a little to play Michael but I think he could do an excellent job. I love Michael and I'm so pleased to finally have an actor I could approve to play him!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 13, 2011, 06:35:54 PM
In terms of looks, Jeffrey Dean Morgan would be a good Michael. However, the only thing I've seen him in is Watchmen, so I don't know how well he'd be able to play Michael. I've heard he's in Supernatural, but I've only seen bits and pieces of that show.

After looking at the description of the Erlking's face in Changes, I think that his face should be modeled after Tom Waits.
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Upon his face, the hideous asymmetries of the goblins of his hall were all reflected and somehow transformed. Though he, too, shared the irregular batch of features, upon him their fundamental repulsiveness was muted into a kind of roguish distinction.
(http://www.allaboutjazz.com/photos/profile/tom_waits.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 13, 2011, 08:03:16 PM
In terms of looks, Jeffrey Dean Morgan would be a good Michael. However, the only thing I've seen him in is Watchmen, so I don't know how well he'd be able to play Michael. I've heard he's in Supernatural, but I've only seen bits and pieces of that show.

He was awesome in Supernatural... thats why i liked him for Micheal
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 13, 2011, 08:22:49 PM
Martin=Keanu Reeves

You're asking for a shotgun to the face, boyo.

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Malcom Dresden=Nathan Fillion
He Who Walks Behind (Voice)=Ron Perlman

I like.

And Geoffrey Rush as Father Forthill...

Really?  I always saw him as Morgan.

After looking at the description of the Erlking's face in Changes, I think that his face should be modeled after he should be played by Tom Waits.

FIFY! ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 13, 2011, 08:43:25 PM
You're asking for a shotgun to the face, boyo.
I'm sort of joking here. I mean, Martin is bland. But I honestly think that Keanu is a bit underrated. I've liked him in some stuff. (If you ignore that it was supposed to be based on the comics, Constantine was an okay movie.)


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FIFY! ;D

Well, I said that because, while I want his face to look like Tom Waits', Keith David has to do the voice. Come on, it's freaking Goliath/Anderson/The Cat from Coraline/The Arbiter/Dr. Facillier/a crapload of other voices.

Also, any ideas for Ramirez? I really don't know of that many hispanic actors. Let's see: John Huertas, Benicio Del Toro, Danny Trejo, Antonio Banderas(who I don't really like for any role in the Dresden Files). And that's it. Damn it, why does Ricardo Montalban have to be dead. He would make an AWESOME Ortega.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 13, 2011, 10:57:08 PM
In terms of looks, Jeffrey Dean Morgan would be a good Michael. However, the only thing I've seen him in is Watchmen, so I don't know how well he'd be able to play Michael. I've heard he's in Supernatural, but I've only seen bits and pieces of that show.

I've never seen Watchmen but he was amazing in Supernatural. His acting range is really good  - as evidenced in Supernatural where he got to play a very complex father character as well as portraying a demon in one or two episodes.) As the Winchesters' father he does both caring father and awesome badass, which to me says he can do Michael.

His appearances were most prevalent in the second half of the first season so if you want to see how you'd like him you only have to watch the first season. (Although after that you just won't want to quit.) ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 13, 2011, 11:34:53 PM
The guy to play Ramirez has to be young, 20 to 30, so I was thinking the guy that played fez on that 70s show.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 13, 2011, 11:52:58 PM
The guy to play Ramirez has to be young, 20 to 30, so I was thinking the guy that played fez on that 70s show.

Really??

I was thinking more along the lines of Mario Lopez
(http://images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Mario-Lopez-americas-best-dance-crew-836294_661_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 14, 2011, 12:04:55 AM
 It has to be someone with a bit of geek that thinks he's hotter than he is. My wife's impression.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 14, 2011, 12:09:37 AM
I just thought he was an insecure 20's year old that tries to compensate by being pompous...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 14, 2011, 12:13:14 AM
I like Lopez for Ramirez.  He looks young enough, but not too young.  He can geek it up a little.

Would Bruce Campbell be good for any character?  The younger Campbell would've made a good Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 14, 2011, 12:15:04 AM
 He could always be Rawlins or Carmichael. I prefer Carmichael so Campbell can do a death scene.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 14, 2011, 12:34:45 AM
Would Bruce Campbell be good for any character?

You know... i think he could make a good Bob... or maybe Rick?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 14, 2011, 12:39:12 AM
I think he'd be good for Carmichael. Not Rick, though. (We're talking about Murphy's ex-husband/current brother-in-law, right?) The key is to give him a rather minor role, otherwise he'll just overshadow everyone because of how cool he is.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 14, 2011, 12:58:26 AM
Yeah that Rick...

okay then what about Stallings?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 14, 2011, 02:41:25 AM
Isn't Stallings a black guy, or am I thinking of Rawlins?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 14, 2011, 02:47:49 AM
Isn't Stallings a black guy, or am I thinking of Rawlins?

Rawlings is the black guy who got kidnapped with Harry when they tried to sell Dresden on Ebay.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 14, 2011, 03:46:24 AM
I just thought he was an insecure 20's year old that tries to compensate by being pompous...

Agreed. And I have an image of somebody in my head for him but I can't put the face with a name. If I think of it I'll let you guys know.  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 14, 2011, 04:16:37 AM
Ideal For Rawling would be the Ringmaster/mentor on The Cape he also did the voice of the cat in Coraline
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 14, 2011, 05:29:46 AM
Isn't Stallings a black guy, or am I thinking of Rawlins?

Rawlings is the black guy and i always saw him as Danny Glover...

(http://images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Mario-Lopez-americas-best-dance-crew-836294_661_1024.jpg)

Him?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 14, 2011, 03:24:58 PM
Ideal For Rawling would be the Ringmaster/mentor on The Cape he also did the voice of the cat in Coraline

Nah. Keith David is just too badass for Rawlins. Rawlins is cool, don't get me wrong, but Keith David is freaking GOLIATH. I kind of imagine Ruben Santiago-Hudson (Captain Montgomery on Castle)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0763650/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 14, 2011, 04:53:24 PM
Thomas Jane (Punisher) as Lord Raith.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 14, 2011, 05:19:23 PM
I always saw David Jean Thomas as Rawlins.

(http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/z/8/z81cxaeu6yxkkxu.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 14, 2011, 05:38:46 PM
Rob Schneider as butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 14, 2011, 07:05:01 PM
I always saw David Jean Thomas as Rawlins.
Agreed!

Rob Schneider as butters.
That would be hilarious!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 14, 2011, 08:48:00 PM
Rob Schneider as butters.


I say no fine sir or madam
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 14, 2011, 08:55:09 PM
I say no fine sir or madam

Again, Agreed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 14, 2011, 09:19:09 PM
Again, Agreed.

Thirded
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DLFSquints on February 14, 2011, 10:45:28 PM
Call for Quorum.

All In Favor?

All Opposed?

The Ayes have it.

Rob Schneider is here by banned as a possible actor for any Dresden Files character, save for possibly playing Rob Schneider, who he would be granted due consideration

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brd9214 on February 15, 2011, 12:11:01 AM
Lawrence Fishburn as Morgan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 15, 2011, 12:28:13 AM
Lawrence Fishburn as Morgan?

Oh hell yeah. I also saw commander Lock from Matrix 2 and 3 as Morgan. Harry Lennix.
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/A_F/Di_Dp/Dollhouse/season1/dollhouse24.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 15, 2011, 01:03:10 AM
Oh hell yeah. I also saw commander Lock from Matrix 2 and 3 as Morgan. Harry Lennix.

Cool looking actor but Morgan is not black, although he was portrayed that way in the DF tv show. He's another one that I'd really like to see in a DF movie, though, if not in that role. A Denarian, maybe? He'd make one heck of a badass DF villain.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on February 15, 2011, 01:37:42 AM
Cool looking actor but Morgan is not black, although he was portrayed that way in the DF tv show. He's another one that I'd really like to see in a DF movie, though, if not in that role. A Denarian, maybe? He'd make one heck of a badass DF villain.

Does it Matter what color Morgan is?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 15, 2011, 02:43:13 AM
Cool looking actor but Morgan is not black, although he was portrayed that way in the DF tv show. He's another one that I'd really like to see in a DF movie, though, if not in that role. A Denarian, maybe? He'd make one heck of a badass DF villain.

I know he's not black but I've been thinking of him as such since the series (and not even as the actor that portrayed him)

Does it Matter what color Morgan is?

I don't think it does. But if we're going to stick completely to the books 100% then yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 15, 2011, 03:25:47 AM
I always see him as that old guy from Avatar the marine guy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hatshep2 on February 15, 2011, 04:59:25 AM
Does it Matter what color Morgan is?

Yes, but only to the same degree that it matters that Harry should be tall, have brown hair, and be under 30. I'm a stickler for by-the-book casting and making Morgan black wouldn't work for me just like making Murphy a tall redhead wouldn't work, either.

I always see him as that old guy from Avatar the marine guy

Too much of an over-actor and seems too unintelligent to play Morgan for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 15, 2011, 05:04:53 AM
Morgan is intelligent  ???
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 15, 2011, 05:54:54 AM
Morgan is intelligent  ???
Yes! well... he isn't a dumba** anyways...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 15, 2011, 06:02:32 AM
eh
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Magnus on February 15, 2011, 07:04:39 AM
For example, he comes to the same conclusion as Harry in Storm Front, that the person behind the murders are using the storms for fuel, only difference is, that he thinks Harry is the bad guy ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 15, 2011, 12:16:29 PM
ONLY after he sees harry use the storm for his own benifit
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 15, 2011, 02:48:28 PM
I had a second idea for Rawlling th eactor who played Bunc on HBO's The Wire he can do the accent that Masters as placed on him, IMP a New ORleans one, na d is a good fit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 15, 2011, 09:36:58 PM
Meh, too young.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 16, 2011, 02:26:40 AM
Morgan is very intelligent - he's just obsessed where Harry's concerned because he lost a loved one to a Warlock.
Obsession blinds you to a lot of things.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 16, 2011, 03:41:32 AM
I just never got that impression, i didn't think he was stupid just not as smart as harry or others like Eb or Mac  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 16, 2011, 05:58:56 AM
Morgan is all kinds of intelligent, he just isn't very clever.  Loads of knowledge, little or no original thought.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on February 16, 2011, 06:23:33 AM
Someone mentioned Liam Neeson earlier... I see him as doing a great Marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 16, 2011, 06:39:21 AM
She might be the wrong coloring but had an idea for Lea - since she does crazy so well.
Helena Bonham Carter.    You buy her skipping off to war.  And she was a redhead in Alice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 16, 2011, 02:35:33 PM
Only if we can guarantee that Tim Burton will stay far away from the whole thing. I like the guy's stuff, but he's getting a little over-the-top with his recent work. NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO HAVE SPIRALS ON IT, BURTON!

And I've been watching NCIS, and I definitely have to go with Mark Harmon as Marcone. He can do the serious, menacing thing. Plus, Marcone's not really supposed to LOOK like a criminal. I think at one point he was described as more of a football coach type, and Harmon was a college football player.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 16, 2011, 04:44:00 PM
Only if we can guarantee that Tim Burton will stay far away from the whole thing. I like the guy's stuff, but he's getting a little over-the-top with his recent work. NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO HAVE SPIRALS ON IT, BURTON!

And I've been watching NCIS, and I definitely have to go with Mark Harmon as Marcone. He can do the serious, menacing thing. Plus, Marcone's not really supposed to LOOK like a criminal. I think at one point he was described as more of a football coach type, and Harmon was a college football player.

I agree, I had forgotten about Burton.  Lud, I feel sorry for their kids - raised by those two eccentrics.  Yikes.
Re: Marcone.  That's why I suggested Chris Meloni - he looks like a football coach but boy can he radiate menace when he wants to.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 16, 2011, 04:45:09 PM
I could see Liam Neeson as Morgan.  

Morgan Freeman as the Gatekeeper?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 16, 2011, 04:46:58 PM
Ummm, I don't think he be quite right.
How's about Oded Fehr?  He was the, as we called him, tattooed desert dude from The Mummy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 16, 2011, 06:01:26 PM
Ummm, I don't think he be quite right.
How's about Oded Fehr?  He was the, as we called him, tattooed desert dude from The Mummy.

I love this description.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 16, 2011, 06:03:39 PM
I love this description.

Well, we could never remember his name but the description fitted him perfectly and we all knew WHO we were talking about.
I think he'd make a great Rashid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 16, 2011, 06:16:54 PM
Well, we could never remember his name but the description fitted him perfectly and we all knew WHO we were talking about.
I think he'd make a great Rashid.

Oded Fehr is awesome! He's only 6ft 1, (and I believe Rashid's only a hair or two shy of Harry) but I'd buy a ticket for that, certainly.

Am I wrong to want to shove Ewan McGreggor in? I have no idea where, but it seems important.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 16, 2011, 08:00:50 PM
Am I wrong to want to shove Ewan McGreggor in? I have no idea where, but it seems important.

No, I think he could make a decent Thomas maybe...

How's about Oded Fehr?  He was the, as we called him, tattooed desert dude from The Mummy.

I think that would work... do we ever actually see Rashid's face though?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 16, 2011, 08:05:02 PM
Yeah, I think in Turncoat when he stops Harry on the island.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 16, 2011, 08:45:54 PM
In reference to me wanting Ewan Mcgregor in The Dresden Files:

No, I think he could make a decent Thomas maybe...


You say that and now all I can think of is his performance in Velvet Goldmine (http://img.listal.com/image/1413348/500full.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 16, 2011, 08:52:30 PM
What about Madrigal Raith?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 16, 2011, 11:05:02 PM
Oded Fehr is awesome! He's only 6ft 1, (and I believe Rashid's only a hair or two shy of Harry) but I'd buy a ticket for that, certainly.

I think that Turn Coat says that Rashid is taller than Harry, something like 7 feet tall or so.

And for the last freaking time people, CLANCY BROWN IS MORGAN.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 17, 2011, 02:30:25 AM
Orlando bloom for thomas?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 17, 2011, 06:11:12 AM
Evidently I don't know how to add a picture.  But when I picture Thomas in my head, I get John Morrison. 

Shoulder-length brown hair, slightly wavy.  Ripped physique, looks like a male model.

And Rashid is taller than Harry.  Harry said in Turn Coat, when Rashid put everyone to sleep, that he should've recognized him.  He's the only one on the council taller than him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 17, 2011, 02:53:05 PM
Evidently I don't know how to add a picture.  But when I picture Thomas in my head, I get John Morrison. 
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrY5AIYFmGGKucXcXKRz3-Yqm5fAI5iNEIRfkP1f_3HPhi1lHgUQ&t=1)

There ya go... But no... I still see John Barrowman
(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/john_barrowman.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 17, 2011, 03:05:10 PM
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrY5AIYFmGGKucXcXKRz3-Yqm5fAI5iNEIRfkP1f_3HPhi1lHgUQ&t=1)

There ya go... But no... I still see John Barrowman
(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/john_barrowman.jpg)

NO sorry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 17, 2011, 03:55:49 PM
NO sorry
Why not?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 17, 2011, 04:23:45 PM
Thomas has a little more predator in him than Mr Barrowman can provide IMHO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on February 17, 2011, 06:58:27 PM
I’d love to see Guillermo Del Toro’s take on this with all the fantastic creatures that he fights it would be amazing.
That said, here is my list, maybe I put a little too much time and effort into it.  Ha.  Thoughts?

Harry – Josh Holloway/Jeffrey Donovan (Perfect combo of semi tough guy and witty remarks/not knowing when to shut up  (First choice would have been Bruce Campbell like 20 years ago)  No one in Hollywood is truly tall enough to play him so maybe they could do the whole Lord of the Rings thing that made the hobbits look hobbit sized

Murphy –Tricia Helfer  Yvonne strahovski/kristana lokken  Kristen bell if she was tough (same thing with above but none short /tough enough.  Liked Valerie Cruz from the show though, even though she doesn’t look like murphy from the books

Bob – Terrence mann
Thomas – Michael Fassbender
Molly –Anna Sophia Robb
Billy – I always picture him as Rudy lol
Michael – Thomas Kretschmann  (Cross in Wanted)
Kincaid –/timothy oliphant (badass in Hitman/justified)
Marcone – Micheal Madsen/Adrian Pasdar/Mark Harmon
Morgan – Mickey Rourke/Jeffery Dean Morgan (tough guy from watchmen would be good)
Lara Raith – Catherine Zeta Jones (Circa Zorro yowsa)
Susan –Jordana Brewster
Sanya-Djimon Hounsou ( I think this on eis unanimous)
The Merlin- Hugh Laurie
Anciet Mai – Michelle Yoeh
Mccoy – Sam Elliot
Mab – Charlize Theron (like in hancock)
Justine- Rebecca Mader (from lost)
Nicodemus – Nestor Carbonell/Julian McMahon
Bianca – Monica Belluci
Hendricks- Stephen lang

Actually i think for Mab Rebecca MAder would be perfect!  Sheds got the long red hair and is gorgoeus!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 17, 2011, 10:12:58 PM
Because he looks like what i think billy looks like
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 17, 2011, 10:25:47 PM
Scary, I was just considering a candidate for Billy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 17, 2011, 10:29:40 PM
who?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 17, 2011, 10:44:30 PM
(http://www.celebopedia.net/jason-bateman/images/jason-bateman.jpg)

Jason Bateman, but he would be too old now methinks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 17, 2011, 10:55:50 PM
WOW okay... When you first said billy i was like, Candidate for me??? What???

I always saw Frankie Muniz as billy for some reason...

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 17, 2011, 11:22:18 PM
Ahh, when real life and forum collide.  ;D

Maybe, again it needs a little Grrr.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 18, 2011, 12:30:11 AM
WOW okay... When you first said billy i was like, Candidate for me??? What???

I always saw Frankie Muniz as billy for some reason...



that means you still have your sanity that you still get confused.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 18, 2011, 12:39:15 AM
Because he looks like what i think billy looks like

Is there some sort of picture that goes with this statement, or some other context that I'm missing?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 18, 2011, 12:41:19 AM
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrY5AIYFmGGKucXcXKRz3-Yqm5fAI5iNEIRfkP1f_3HPhi1lHgUQ&t=1)

There ya go... But no... I still see John Barrowman
(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/john_barrowman.jpg)

Is there some sort of picture that goes with this statement, or some other context that I'm missing?

There ya go TC
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 18, 2011, 04:33:34 AM
There ya go TC
What he said...

He thinks John Barrowman should be Billy...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 18, 2011, 04:43:11 AM
I was thinking billy or binder
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 18, 2011, 06:20:49 AM
John Barrowman for Chandler the British Warden Harry calls Steed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 18, 2011, 06:38:47 AM
For Ramirez:

It has to be someone with a bit of geek that thinks he's hotter than he is. My wife's impression.

Quote
I just thought he was an insecure 20's year old that tries to compensate by being pompous...

SHIA LEBOUF!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 18, 2011, 06:46:49 AM
Seriously, gotta be Morrison for Thomas.  Just gotta teach the dude to act.

Mickey Rourke for Morgan.  I love that idea.  He can play creepy, psycho, jerk, pure Morgan.

For Eb I think Robert Duvall is still the best fit.
Christopher Lee as the Merlin

Mortimer: Newmann from Seinfeld, or Otho from Beetlejuice.

Oddly enough, I could see Michael Keaton as Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 18, 2011, 11:31:37 AM
MY wife thinks Jason Isaacs should be Marcone. Consider that Cable show Brotherhood. THe 1st season when he still had all his marbles.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 18, 2011, 11:42:37 AM
Oooooooooooh yeeeeeeeeeahhhhhhh.

Dunno how I missed that one, but, yeah.

*Drools*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 18, 2011, 01:59:11 PM
MY wife thinks Jason Isaacs should be Marcone. Consider that Cable show Brotherhood. THe 1st season when he still had all his marbles.
Very good idea!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 18, 2011, 09:07:45 PM
I love his American accent (anyone who's watched the animated Avatar The Last Airbender I'm talking to you) He does the voice of Admiral Zhao. On top of this he's an awesome actor, he has my vote for Marcone!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tonit on February 18, 2011, 11:23:20 PM
I am joining late and probably this discussion has already happened but
didn't everyone scream Harry! when they saw sorcerer"s apprentice?
I mean it has to be Nicolas Cage. By the way didn't they just steal Harry?
how rude!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 19, 2011, 01:09:25 AM
Well, Nic Cage was a producer for the Dresden Files tv show, I heard a rumor that he actually demanded his character in Sorcerers Apprentice look like Dresden and brought in his own costume pieces, but that's just rumor.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 19, 2011, 02:33:57 AM
No Nic Cage for Harry Dresden.
He's not right and the fact that he seems to have basically
taken his character in SA from Harry should prove it.
He's too maniacal and too old.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 19, 2011, 06:38:23 AM
I just realized this... What about David Tennant for Harry?
You Doctor Who fans should recognize him...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bsjemQrY3bA/TQu2L_Pc4xI/AAAAAAAACM0/c0G05DirQLo/s1600/David-tennant.preview.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 19, 2011, 01:10:07 PM
If he were taller then I would be the first in line for the film.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 19, 2011, 02:47:00 PM
You know they have these things called computers that can help with the height thing... as point of fact Gimli in the LOTR series the actor who played him is actually like 6' 6"...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 19, 2011, 05:44:34 PM
You know they have these things called computers that can help with the height thing... as point of fact Gimli in the LOTR series the actor who played him is actually like 6' 6"...

*snort* well that solves our finding a really short murphy problem
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 19, 2011, 05:46:28 PM
You know they have these things called computers that can help with the height thing... as point of fact Gimli in the LOTR series the actor who played him is actually like 6' 6"...

Yes, John Rhys Davis and he spent a good part of that movie pretty much on his knees to appear short when it was him and not the little person double.  No CGI to make him short.  And using CGI to make someone tall - they may be able to do it but it would cost a mint to have to do the hero in most every scene.  Or to make someone short.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on February 19, 2011, 06:34:42 PM
honestly I'm happy with the books, and can live without a TV show or movie or whatever. heck even the comics are neat but not a MUST HAVE.

Now if Jim were to help get an orignal TV series ala Firefly off the ground, in a heart beat, glued to my TV
Or heck a Tv show in the Dresden verse from another point of view out in LA or the UK or Dallas (WOO TEXAS) that would be neater

Also James Marsden as Thomas
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 19, 2011, 09:04:54 PM
Yes, John Rhys Davis and he spent a good part of that movie pretty much on his knees to appear short when it was him and not the little person double.  No CGI to make him short.  And using CGI to make someone tall - they may be able to do it but it would cost a mint to have to do the hero in most every scene.  Or to make someone short.
And if that's the case then in all the full body scenes how is it that you see his feet and still be shorter then everybody?

You make it sound like CGI is SOOOO expensive... but now days it really isn't...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 19, 2011, 09:46:34 PM
Sam Elliot MUST be in the movie.  There can be no negotiation on the subject.  But not as Eb.  Robert Duvalle is Eb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 19, 2011, 10:24:30 PM
honestly I'm happy with the books, and can live without a TV show or movie or whatever. heck even the comics are neat but not a MUST HAVE.

Now if Jim were to help get an orignal TV series ala Firefly off the ground, in a heart beat, glued to my TV
Or heck a Tv show in the Dresden verse from another point of view out in LA or the UK or Dallas (WOO TEXAS) that would be neater.

Or something that gives us the story of some of the other characters in the past. Like what Eb did during the French and Indian War, how he met Listens-to-Wind, stuff like that. Oooooh, or what happened with Kemmler during WWI.
You know, Eb was scottish, wasn't he? Maybe David Tennant could be a young Ebenezar.

Sam Elliot MUST be in the movie.  There can be no negotiation on the subject.  But not as Eb.  Robert Duvalle is Eb.

If they wanted to change Uriel from his kinda young-ish appearance in changes/old janitor in Small Favor and give the role to Sam Elliot, I would have no problems with that. AT ALL. SAM ELLIOT AS URIEL, THE CASTING FOR THAT CHARACTER IS NOW CLOSED.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 20, 2011, 01:35:44 AM
And if that's the case then in all the full body scenes how is it that you see his feet and still be shorter then everybody?

You make it sound like CGI is SOOOO expensive... but now days it really isn't...

Depending on what you do - yes it can be, and having to do the hero in a lot of scenes would be a lot of money because it isn't just changing his height it's making sure that his shadow matched up to the CGI height and all sorts of other intangibles that one doesn't normally think about.  And this is going frame by frame.
Studio would sooner use whatever actor they can find who can do the part and work around the height thing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 20, 2011, 01:37:04 AM
Uriel is described as having dark skin.  I like Sam Elliot but he's not got dark skin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 20, 2011, 04:37:12 AM
Morgan freeman is totally Urial
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 20, 2011, 04:53:05 AM
We may not have been introduced to the character Sam Elliot will play.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 20, 2011, 06:49:10 AM
True!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 20, 2011, 08:50:17 AM
Jim needs to hurry up and put a badass french warden somewhere so I can put Jean Reno on my casting wishlist.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 20, 2011, 04:15:50 PM
Problem with casting Morgan Freeman as Uriel is that, if we did that for his scene as Jake the janitor in Small Favor, everyone would know that he was more than just a janitor. He's supposed to be subtle, the quietest of the Archangels.

Jim needs to hurry up and put a badass french warden somewhere so I can put Jean Reno on my casting wishlist.
Yes. Yes he does.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 20, 2011, 05:13:25 PM
Problem with casting Morgan Freeman as Uriel is that, if we did that for his scene as Jake the janitor in Small Favor, everyone would know that he was more than just a janitor. He's supposed to be subtle, the quietest of the Archangels.
Yes. Yes he does.


Very true.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 20, 2011, 06:23:45 PM
yeah i suppose maybe
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on February 20, 2011, 06:48:51 PM
He's supposed to be subtle, the quietest of the Archangels.

Damn, I just realized that this means that Samuel L. Jackson would never be able to play Uriel. Because quiet and Samuel L. MUTHA[bleep] Jackson don't really go together.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 20, 2011, 06:55:54 PM
Hmm quiet, unobtrusive, dark skinned, able to pull off "wise"...  I think I'd go with Chi McBride.  He's a fine actor, I really enjoyed him in Boston Public back in the day.  And best of all he shows up all the time in random support roles, so it won't have the Morgan Freeman/bruce almighty God issue.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 21, 2011, 12:12:17 AM
I've always thought of Frankie Faison for Uriel. I think it's because he played Lloyd in The Stupids movie, he was a Janitor who Stan Stupid mistook for God (and thought Lloyd was the correct utilization of "Lord")

(http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Adam+2009+Sundance+Portrait+Session+1dctGXpo_unl.jpg)

And you know what else? Screw it, I'm making Jean Reno my wish for Morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 21, 2011, 05:37:22 AM
oh you  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 21, 2011, 04:37:13 PM
And you know what else? Screw it, I'm making Jean Reno my wish for Morgan.

You know what... I agree... I think he could make a good Morgan...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 22, 2011, 02:45:23 AM
You know what... I agree... I think he could make a good Morgan...

nooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 22, 2011, 02:47:22 AM
Words I thought I'd never say. ::)
I'm with GW on this one.
Jean Reno is good but not Morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 22, 2011, 02:56:56 AM
Words I thought I'd never say. ::)
I'm with GW on this one.
Jean Reno is good but not Morgan.

victory
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 22, 2011, 04:15:52 AM
i'm sorry i just keep seeing him as the burnt out cop in the Da Vinci Code...

The SIMILARITIES!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 22, 2011, 06:38:12 AM
My thoughts precisely.

If not Jean Reno my equal choice (notice I didn't say second) is Jason Isaacs.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 22, 2011, 07:17:27 AM
Now I can buy Jason Isaacs as Morgan - he has the intensity.
Of course Isaacs would also make a really malevolent Nic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 22, 2011, 07:23:12 AM
How about Gerard Butler as Morgan?  If not Mickey Rourke?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 22, 2011, 07:24:48 AM
How about Gerard Butler as Morgan?  If not Mickey Rourke?

Gerard Butler maybe.  Mickey Rourke - naw.
We want Morgan burnt out - not burnt up or looking drugged out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 22, 2011, 09:10:32 AM
I'd buy Rourke as a Denerian though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 22, 2011, 10:51:05 PM
I could buy that.

And you know what else? Screw it, I'm making Jean Reno my wish for Morgan.

If I can't have Geoffrey Rush as Morgan, this would be my second choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thanatos on February 22, 2011, 11:00:48 PM
Marcone - Lochlyn Munro

(http://www.fcolella.com/Totem/images/FOT/L/LochlynMunro.jpg)

He'd need contacts to make his eyes pale green, but that'd be true of nearly any actor since that's a very rare eye colour.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 23, 2011, 03:34:59 AM
How about Gerard Butler as Morgan?  If not Mickey Rourke?

I like Gerald Butler for morgan
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 23, 2011, 04:26:20 AM
I like Gerald Butler for morgan
Agreed.  He's can definitely pull off that "Ive seen years of misery and its all your fault" look that Morgan needs.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 23, 2011, 05:14:52 AM
Agreed.  He's can definitely pull off that "Ive seen years of misery and its all your fault" look that Morgan needs.
I just think that he is too young for Morgan...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 23, 2011, 06:41:18 AM
You can make him up to look older.

Mr. T as the frog demon.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 23, 2011, 01:50:27 PM
You can make him up to look older.

Mr. T as the frog demon.

If only

Thomas
(http://popero.com/starpics/thumb004/bradley-cooper-a020.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on February 23, 2011, 04:59:01 PM
BTW, who is the guy on the book covers?  Real guy or just a drawing?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 23, 2011, 05:02:49 PM
On all the covers I've seen it's a drawing.
That said the artist might have used someone as a base model.
Boris Vallejo always used real people to base his covers on.
Often himself and his wife.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 24, 2011, 06:42:12 PM
Jason Isaacs fits best as Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 24, 2011, 07:07:42 PM
Jason Isaacs fits best as Marcone.
I see him much more as a Nicodemus.  Marcone is described as more of gentle handed uncle sort in appearance; as a man who looks like he would apoligize for the nessecity just before he shot you in the head.  Jason Isaacs is a little too reptilian.  He's a man you would never forget is a villian to the bone.  Marcone is far more subtle, and lets you forget it sometimes.   

Im sticking with Ed Quinn as Marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 25, 2011, 01:51:36 AM
(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/125/230x306/125063_bradley-cooper-attends-the-uk-premiere-of-the-a-team-at-the-empire-leicester-square-london-july-27-2.jpg)

thomas
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 25, 2011, 02:32:55 PM
Im sticking with Ed Quinn as Marcone

I had forgotten about him, yeah e could do a good Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on February 27, 2011, 05:46:14 PM
Anyone else watching Primeval, and if so, do you reckon the future-predator-bat things would make good Red Court ?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on February 28, 2011, 05:32:17 AM
I don't think that the Red Court is going to be a problem... it's the individual People
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on February 28, 2011, 01:47:56 PM
I don't think that the Red Court is going to be a problem... it's the individual People

Unmasked, I meant.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on February 28, 2011, 02:10:24 PM
(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/125/230x306/125063_bradley-cooper-attends-the-uk-premiere-of-the-a-team-at-the-empire-leicester-square-london-july-27-2.jpg)

Harry
Fixed that for you
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: badassassin on February 28, 2011, 05:04:00 PM
should be mostly self-explanatory, if you can provide a movie reference for people who may not know all the names, i think it'd be easier

i'll start with

Liam Neeson (Batman Begins)-Nicodemus
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Maz on February 28, 2011, 06:57:46 PM
No, Liam Nesson has to play Malcolm Dresden so he can't play Nicodemus... can he? ;)

I vote Brooklyn Decker as Molly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaime_Lannister on February 28, 2011, 06:58:05 PM
Okay if i didnt misinterpreted your topic badassassin, we should chose an actor who we think woud be the ideal to interpret determined character in the dresdenfiles correct? if so..here is my choices..





(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AoOelH1ORP0/Rb_XYANl_NI/AAAAAAAAANQ/AG7WB9LCDsc/s400/Brad-20Pitt.jpg)
Brad Pitt as Kincaid

Hugg Jackman as Harry Dresden it dont bring the "quick nerd" side of Harry but..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaime_Lannister on February 28, 2011, 07:00:01 PM
(http://www.onlinechineseastrology.com/images/en-US/content/Anthony_Hopkins.jpg)
 
Anthone Hopkins as Nicodemus. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: GWPfark on February 28, 2011, 07:00:36 PM
How about Lady Gaga as Bianca, so we can kill it with fire.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaime_Lannister on February 28, 2011, 07:05:39 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_beXnqOAZQ_A/TUlOzh7oPVI/AAAAAAAAESw/8RWOmS-O5_Q/s400/100367050_69245ac9-26bc-4886-bc31-1828676ca403-allison-big.jpg)
Allison Mack of Smallvile for Molly.

Quote
How about Lady Gaga as Bianca, so we can kill it with fire

Im down with you. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaime_Lannister on February 28, 2011, 07:11:56 PM
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_kU1UAyrkBgw/RvIzf4PPaDI/AAAAAAAANCY/renf6WdsKkM/2450_767860054_18478420_H140646_L.jpg)
Alice Taglioni as Murphy
(sorry for the mutiple posts..i cant upload the images all at once because is too heavy)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on February 28, 2011, 07:20:08 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_beXnqOAZQ_A/TUlOzh7oPVI/AAAAAAAAESw/8RWOmS-O5_Q/s400/100367050_69245ac9-26bc-4886-bc31-1828676ca403-allison-big.jpg)
Allison Mack of Smallvile for Molly.

Im down with you. ;D

Allison Mack is more of a Murphy than a Molly. Kaythanks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 28, 2011, 07:26:33 PM
Guys, there's already a whole sticked thread (232 pages and counting) on this
topic in the The Dresden Files>DF (not spoiler section)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DrKlahn on February 28, 2011, 08:05:51 PM
For Murphy I always thought of Kristin Bell (Sarah Marshall in Forgetting Sarah Marshall). She has the look and stature (she's 5'1") for Murphy if you could get her toned up some to make the martial arts scenes plausible. The other suggestions I see for Murphy are good ones.

Harry is tougher. Jared Padalecki from Supernatural has the height and some of the look. His voice doesn't scream Harry though. For Harry you need someone tall and young. Best case with 20 books and TV series on say HBO/Showtime you'll be trying to go through 3 books a season. Which equates to 7 years and a wizard that shouldn't be seen to age that much. So someone in their mid, possibly late, 20's is what you would want.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaime_Lannister on February 28, 2011, 08:12:46 PM
(http://prettyboring.com/files/images/megan-fox-picture-2-1.jpg)
Megan Fox as Lara Raith.
(seriously..any other mortal who could cause the effects of a succubus on the male population..without being a succubus?)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ebliss1 on February 28, 2011, 08:13:17 PM
Anthony Hopkins for Nicodemus is good, but I'd go with Jeremy Irons personally...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cruness on February 28, 2011, 08:41:49 PM
No, Liam Nesson has to play Malcolm Dresden so he can't play Nicodemus... can he? ;)

I vote Brooklyn Decker as Molly.

Agree
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on February 28, 2011, 10:05:36 PM
Fixed that for you


This.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Esperacchius on March 01, 2011, 12:35:06 AM
I had this idea the other day that can't be confirmed till we actually MEET her, but I thought Titania should be darker skinned (y'know, Winter=pale white, Summer=tan/dark).  Following that thought process, what do you think of HER as Titania:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/5487487484_18abd63304.jpg)

(that would be Gina Torres, folks.  Y'know, Zoe from Firefly for any geeks unawares ;^)  )

and if she's Titania, I think- again following the same idea for casting as above- that we have HER as Mother Summer:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5173/5487500594_a36b7f14c6.jpg)

That would be an actress by the name of CCH Pounder.  If you're unfamiliar with her work, I highly recommend you check her out.  I think she'd make a FANTASTIC Mother Summer (we'd have to age her a bit, of course) to Gina's Titania.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Esperacchius on March 01, 2011, 12:37:10 AM
Allison Mack is more of a Murphy than a Molly. Kaythanks.

I actually have to agree with both of you. Allison from the first years of Smallville would've been a perfect Molly, but she's closer to the age of Murphy now.  I don't think she's QUITE old enough to play Murphy yet, but still good pick.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 01, 2011, 04:40:20 PM
I had this idea the other day that can't be confirmed till we actually MEET her, but I thought Titania should be darker skinned (y'know, Winter=pale white, Summer=tan/dark).  Following that thought process, what do you think of HER as Titania:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/5487487484_18abd63304.jpg)

(that would be Gina Torres, folks.  Y'know, Zoe from Firefly for any geeks unawares ;^)  )

and if she's Titania, I think- again following the same idea for casting as above- that we have HER as Mother Summer:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5173/5487500594_a36b7f14c6.jpg)

That would be an actress by the name of CCH Pounder.  If you're unfamiliar with her work, I highly recommend you check her out.  I think she'd make a FANTASTIC Mother Summer (we'd have to age her a bit, of course) to Gina's Titania.

Never thought of that before, but I like your idea.
Also, Hellen Mirren for Mother Winter. Because Hellen Mirren is awesome. And looks way too good for her age to be a normal mortal. Or Mother Summer if Esperacchius' idea doesn't pan out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 01, 2011, 05:45:09 PM
I like.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: badassassin on March 01, 2011, 05:59:29 PM
Harry Dresden- Ryan Reynolds
Thomas- James Franco
Michael- Sean Connery
Kinkaid- Will Smith
Luccio version 2.0- Demi Moore
Morgan- Taye Diggs (think equilibrium)
Lara Raith- Sasha Grey
Ebenezer McCoy- Michael Caine
Mab- Cate Blanchett
Gard- Tilda Swinton
Hendricks- Jason Statham
Nicodemus- Liam Neeson
Uriel- Kevin Pollak
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 01, 2011, 06:04:10 PM
Harry Dresden- Ryan Reynolds
Thomas- James Franco
Michael- Sean Connery
Kinkaid- Will Smith
Luccio version 2.0- Demi Moore
Morgan- Taye Diggs (think equilibrium)
Lara Raith- Sasha Grey
Ebenezer McCoy- Michael Caine
Mab- Cate Blanchett
Gard- Tilda Swinton
Hendricks- Jason Statham
Nicodemus- Liam Neeson
Uriel- Kevin Pollak

James Franco - not pretty enough for Thomas.
Sean Connery - too old for Michael and he's stopped acting.
Tilda Swinton - please not - she's just a bit too odd and bony for Gard.

Ah, Uriel has dark skin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: badassassin on March 01, 2011, 06:07:52 PM
James Franco - not pretty enough for Thomas.
Sean Connery - too old for Michael and he's stopped acting.
Tilda Swinton - please not - she's just a bit too odd and bony for Gard.

Ah, Uriel has dark skin.

james-there are very few pretty boys who are badass, i couldn't come up with another
Sean- i know, he'd have to be deaged
Tilda- it kinda makes sense though. think the white witch from narnia

uriel- and yet you didn't comment on will smith or taye diggs- not to mention he's an angel
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 01, 2011, 06:08:12 PM
Hendricks- Jason Statham

That is all.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 01, 2011, 06:13:47 PM
james-there are very few pretty boys who are badass, i couldn't come up with another
Sean- i know, he'd have to be deaged
Tilda- it kinda makes sense though. think the white witch from narnia

uriel- and yet you didn't comment on will smith or taye diggs- not to mention he's an angel


Swinton isn't athletic enough.  Gard uses a double bitted axe.  Swinton would go over backwards trying to swing one of those.
Connery has stopped acting.  And deaging someone would be extremely expensive.
I didn't see Kincaid/Will Smith - and I don't think that's a good match either.
Kincaid is enormous.  The Rock - now that I could see.
As for Morgan/Taye Diggs - I think Diggs is too young and not world weary enough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Esperacchius on March 01, 2011, 09:40:54 PM
I still say Clancy Brown for Morgan.  That voice, that presence...for god's sake, he's not just the Kurgan! He's Lex FREAKING Luthor!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 02, 2011, 01:44:45 AM
I still say Clancy Brown for Morgan.  That voice, that presence...for god's sake, he's not just the Kurgan! He's Lex FREAKING Luthor!

A. Freakin'. Men. Besides, Jim said it himself.
Also, Rutger Hauer for Lord Raith. After watching Blade Runner last night, and checking what he looks like now, he's a good fit for the role.

Kincaid is enormous.  The Rock - now that I could see.

When was Kincaid described as enormous? I've always seen him as a few inches shorter than Harry. 6'5'' at most. (that might count as enormous, actually. I don't know.) Plus, The Rock's a bit too muscular for Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Esperacchius on March 02, 2011, 05:21:20 PM
When was Kincaid described as enormous? I've always seen him as a few inches shorter than Harry. 6'5'' at most. (that might count as enormous, actually. I don't know.) Plus, The Rock's a bit too muscular for Kincaid.

I may be mistaken, but I'd SWEAR that he's described has having a lean, muscular swimmer's build.  I think another few people are described the same way, but I'm relatively sure Kincaid was one of those.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 02, 2011, 05:31:20 PM
I may be mistaken, but I'd SWEAR that he's described has having a lean, muscular swimmer's build.  I think another few people are described the same way, but I'm relatively sure Kincaid was one of those.

Harry's described that way.

Found the first description of Kincaid.
"A man stood on my doorstep.  He was nearly as tall as me but looked a lot more solid,
with shoulders wide enough to make the loose black jacket he wore fit tightly on his upper arms."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on March 02, 2011, 05:31:43 PM
Here's what I have so far.

Harry: still up in the air.
Thomas: John Morrison
Eb: Robert Duvall
Morgan: Clancy Brown (as soon as someone said the Kurgan, I knew who he was.  Yes)
Kincaid: Brad Pitt (I could see Murph using him as a man toy)
Nic: Jeremy Irons
Malcolm: Liam Neeson
Uriel: James Earl Jones?
Langtry: Christopher Lee
Sanya: Dwayne Johnson( if you could teach him how to act with a russion accent)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 02, 2011, 09:03:18 PM
Here's what I have so far.

Harry: still up in the air.
Thomas: John Morrison
Eb: Robert Duvall
Morgan: Clancy Brown (as soon as someone said the Kurgan, I knew who he was.  Yes)
Kincaid: Brad Pitt (I could see Murph using him as a man toy) Christian Kane
Nic: Jeremy Irons
Malcolm: Liam Neeson
Uriel: James Earl Jones?
Langtry: Christopher Lee
Sanya: Dwayne Johnson( if you could teach him how to act with a russion accent)

FIFY ;D

Brad Pitt is on the Dresden Black List along with Keanu Reeves and Tom Cruise.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 03, 2011, 01:56:09 AM
Er..Sanya is supposed to be Black.  That's part of the reason he got
involved with the Denarians.  He was SO very out of place in Russia.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: badassassin on March 03, 2011, 07:06:56 AM
Er..Sanya is supposed to be Black.  That's part of the reason he got
involved with the Denarians.  He was SO very out of place in Russia.
   so maybe will smith? i forgot he wasn't russian. doesn't he have that accent though?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 03, 2011, 07:14:58 AM
I think Will Smith is too well known to play Sanya.
Also I think he's not quite buff enough.
Sanya has probably developed some pretty impressive shoulder and arm muscles from
swinging a sword though no where near as wide as Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on March 03, 2011, 08:00:09 AM
I think Jim mentioned once Will Smith could play Harry, and when you look at pics of him an his wife, who's Murphy?  :D

(http://bellbajao.org/userfiles/Will%20&%20Jada%20Smith.jpg)

ok so he's 6"2 and but she's 5' 0 (sorry I don't know the correct way to do feet and inches)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 03, 2011, 03:58:24 PM
It's a single stroke ' for feet and a double stroke " for inches, Icecream.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on March 03, 2011, 04:35:54 PM
Dwayne Johnson is black/Samoan. 

Listens-to-Wind: Wes Studie
Ramirez: Joseph Gordon Levitt

I keep thinking of Thomas Jane as Harry, except I can't stop seeing him as the Punisher.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 03, 2011, 05:41:25 PM
Er..Sanya is supposed to be Black.  That's part of the reason he got
involved with the Denarians.  He was SO very out of place in Russia.

But it never says how black he is.  I don't mean to sound racist, but there's varying degrees of skin tone from black black to light brown, just like there's variations of any other skin "color".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: badassassin on March 03, 2011, 06:31:18 PM
Ramirez: Joseph Gordon Levitt


i'm a fan of this
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 04, 2011, 12:01:52 AM
On the one hand, I really don't like it when they ignore a character's ethnicity when casting an actor. On the other hand, Joseph Gordon Levitt is pretty awesome.

Also, I feel the need to remind everyone that, with a little makeup work to deal with the wrinkles, Rutger Hauer would make a damn good Lord Raith.
Here's what he looks like these days:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/LouisXIV/cinema/Modern%20Character%20Actors/Hauer.jpg)

And here's how he used to look:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__BqlxfEVGSg/TNL4loJO3TI/AAAAAAAADvs/q253miWlwsw/s400/RutgerHauer.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjsharks on March 04, 2011, 02:44:54 AM
It's a single stroke ' for feet and a double stroke " for inches, Icecream.

[bad joke] you would think its the other way around ;D [/bad joke]
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on March 04, 2011, 03:31:48 AM
alright. Holy crap. every body just hold on. stop where you are.
Idk why I didnt see this before.
(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/SeanBlackstone/harrydresden.jpg)
perfect.Harry.good.lord.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 04, 2011, 03:58:25 AM
Gents, brace yourselves for the shitstorm.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DLFSquints on March 04, 2011, 05:02:31 AM
"dude I, like, uh, know, uh, Wizardry"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on March 04, 2011, 05:53:25 AM
(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/125/230x306/125063_bradley-cooper-attends-the-uk-premiere-of-the-a-team-at-the-empire-leicester-square-london-july-27-2.jpg)

thomas

NOOOO... he's cute but Matt Bomer is better:

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k192/elledeegee/temporary/wcmb/037.jpg)

The picture that makes all the girls swoon! *faints*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: uncanny on March 04, 2011, 12:05:45 PM
Eb: Robert Duvall
Morgan: Clancy Brown (as soon as someone said the Kurgan, I knew who he was.  Yes)
I have to be honest... Robert Duvall isn't the first actor I think of when I think of "Old, wise, patient".  He's good in some roles, don't get me wrong - but Eb?  Nah.
I'd say Gerard Butler but.. he's a bit too young.  James Cosmo if you want someone rough around the edges and weathered enough to look like he's tended a farm his whole life (James Cosmo is the old guy that gets progressively damaged in Braveheart)
Or.. what about Billy Connolly? [ducks and covers]
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 04, 2011, 03:59:10 PM
I'm still going with Jeff Bridges for Eb. He's supposed to be bald and bearded, and, well...
(http://www.myceleb.net/pic/Jeff_Bridges_0009.jpg)

Besides, he's JEFF BRIDGES.
[Truth be told, I don't know if Billy Connolly would work. I've only seen him in 2 movies, and I barely remember them.]
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on March 04, 2011, 05:19:12 PM
I'm still going with Jeff Bridges for Eb. He's supposed to be bald and bearded, and, well...
(http://www.myceleb.net/pic/Jeff_Bridges_0009.jpg)

Besides, he's JEFF BRIDGES.
[Truth be told, I don't know if Billy Connolly would work. I've only seen him in 2 movies, and I barely remember them.]

Yeah, I can see him as Eb.  I can see him calling someone 'Hoss'.
And I can see that Bomer guy as Harry.
And I think the Rock would look quite out of place in Russia.
And my first choice for Ramirez was Mario Lopez, but I think he got shot down, so JGL.

Fits the age, can do the personality, and the ethnisity...Jim said Will Smith could do Harry sooo
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 04, 2011, 05:39:54 PM
alright. Holy crap. every body just hold on. stop where you are.
Idk why I didnt see this before.
Picture of Keanu Reeves with long hair
perfect.Harry.good.lord.

...

Grab the pitchforks!  Light the torches!  GET HIM!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Esperacchius on March 04, 2011, 06:39:59 PM
I'm still going with Jeff Bridges for Eb. He's supposed to be bald and bearded, and, well...
(http://www.myceleb.net/pic/Jeff_Bridges_0009.jpg)

Besides, he's JEFF BRIDGES.
[Truth be told, I don't know if Billy Connolly would work. I've only seen him in 2 movies, and I barely remember them.]

I can see Duvall as Eb, but my GOD would Jeff be perfect.  He's not QUITE old enough, but I can see it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 05, 2011, 12:02:11 AM
I think Matt Bomer would make a perfect Thomas.
Check out Chris Pine - he looks a lot like Bomer - he could play Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 05, 2011, 12:28:40 AM
I think Matt Bomer would make a perfect Thomas.
Check out Chris Pine - he looks a lot like Bomer - he could play Harry.
Actually I really like that choice, as a pair.  But is Pine tall enough? 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 05, 2011, 01:24:24 AM
Actually I really like that choice, as a pair.  But is Pine tall enough? 

Height is something that will, to a degree, go by the wayside I'm afraid.
Paul Blackthorne was and is a rarity in Hollywood - most actors are just NOT that tall.
The one comedian - Brad whatshisname that was on Ray Romano show - he's another.
But I believe that Pine is six foot or so.  If he and Boomer are of similar heights then
it's all good.  A little bit of someone standing on an apple box in some scenes and you've got it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Koriandr on March 05, 2011, 05:01:05 AM
"dude I, like, uh, know, uh, Wizardry"

lol! omg, I was thinking the same thing when I saw Keanu's pic. XD

And Jeff Bridges as Eb is brilliant, IMO. I'm remembering his turn as the "fatherly" figure turned evil corporate takeover dude in Iron Man and he definitely has the chops to do him justice. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 06, 2011, 06:15:59 PM
Yep, that's why I picked him. Well, that and because he's Jeff Bridges.

...Why am I now imagining one of the scenes from The Big Lebowski with Walter being nuts and the dude just being totally chill, except with Morgan and Eb. Or the Merlin and Eb.

What is my brain doing? More importantly, who would be Jesus Quintana?

I think I need to get more sleep.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on March 07, 2011, 02:09:36 AM
Someone mentioned Rutger Hauer.  I see him as Donar Vadderung.

Lance Henrickson as Simon Petrovich?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 07, 2011, 03:29:37 AM
Someone mentioned Rutger Hauer.  I see him as Donar Vadderung.

Lance Henrickson as Simon Petrovich?

Why do we need a Simon?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 07, 2011, 07:07:12 AM
Someone mentioned Rutger Hauer.  I see him as Donar Vadderung.
Oooh, yeah. That's a way better role for him than Lord Raith.

Why do we need a Simon?
We don't.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 07, 2011, 07:14:36 AM
I like Rutger Hauer but I don't think he's Donnar.
Lord Raith yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 07, 2011, 02:57:17 PM
Either one would work. I guess it boils down to how he looks with a beard...Donnar did have a beard, right? I don't have my copy of Changes right now, but I can't imagine Odin without one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ren on March 07, 2011, 05:28:56 PM
Brendan Gleeson as Donnar? He looks good in a beard and is heavy-set enough to fit the bill (I just do not see Odin as being skinny).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 07, 2011, 06:46:30 PM
Nah. Gleeson doesn't quite fit with Odin. I don't imagine him as being skinny either, but Gleeson...he'd be better for Binder, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on March 07, 2011, 11:34:19 PM
Gleeson as Binder = Win.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 08, 2011, 04:39:07 AM
Ok, so my current cast list is as follows:
Harry=Nathan Fillion
Murphy=Megan Dodds or Kristen Bell
Bob=either Jim or James Marsters
Eb=Jeff Bridges
Morgan=Clancy Brown
Thomas=Matt Bomer
Merlin=Terrence Stamp or Bill Nighy
Cowl=Peter Stormare
Lea=Julianne Moore
Binder=Brendan Gleeson
Maeve=Mila Kunis
Bianca=Monica Bellucci
Nicodemus=Timothy Dalton
Kincaid=Adrien Brody or Christian Kane
Rawlins=Ruben Santiago-Hudson
Luccio 2.0=Summer Glau, or maybe Olivia Wilde
Marcone=Mark Harmon
Hendricks=Ray Stevenson (the accent could be problematic, but Hendricks doesn't talk much anyways)
Odin=Rutger Hauer? BRIAN BLESSED?
Erlking=Keith David does the voice, but when he takes off his helmet in Changes, he should look like Tom Waits.
Mac=Adam Baldwin.
Butters=Steve Buscemi
Red King=Danny Trejo
Margaret LeFay/Dresden/McCoy=Claudia Black
Sanya=Isaiah Mustafa (Old Spice Guy/The Man Your Man Could Smell Like)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 08, 2011, 06:32:02 PM
Ok, so my current cast list is as follows:
Harry=Nathan Fillion
Murphy=Megan Dodds or Kristen Bell
Bob=either Jim or James Marsters
Eb=Jeff Bridges
Morgan=Clancy Brown
Thomas=Matt Bomer
Merlin=Terrence Stamp or Bill Nighy
Cowl=Peter Stormare
Lea=Julianne Moore
Binder=Brendan Gleeson
Maeve=Mila Kunis
Bianca=Monica Bellucci
Nicodemus=Timothy Dalton
Kincaid=Adrien Brody or Christian Kane
Rawlins=Ruben Santiago-Hudson
Luccio 2.0=Summer Glau, or maybe Olivia Wilde
Marcone=Mark Harmon
Hendricks=Ray Stevenson (the accent could be problematic, but Hendricks doesn't talk much anyways)
Odin=Rutger Hauer? BRIAN BLESSED?
Erlking=Keith David does the voice, but when he takes off his helmet in Changes, he should look like Tom Waits.
Mac=Adam Baldwin. Bruce Willis
Butters=Steve Buscemi
Red King=Danny Trejo
Margaret LeFay/Dresden/McCoy=Claudia Black
Sanya=Isaiah Mustafa (Old Spice Guy/The Man Your Man Could Smell Like)

That's better.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 08, 2011, 07:48:11 PM
I picked Baldwin because I think he can do monosyllabic better than Bruce Willis. But either one works.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wardenferry419 on March 08, 2011, 09:13:29 PM
Who do you want as Ramirez?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 08, 2011, 09:30:14 PM
Haven't been able to think of anyone who's both young enough and the right ethnicity. The closest I've been able to come up with is John Huertas (Esposito on Castle), but he's a bit too old for the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wardenferry419 on March 08, 2011, 09:44:04 PM
A young John leguizamo would have been perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 09, 2011, 12:34:24 AM
John leguizamo paired with the Ramirez cockiness would just come off as skeevy.  You need someone with more charm and at least able to pull off innocence.   Or maybe I just think Molly can do better than John leguizamo

Edit: i think I picture more of a Adrian Grenier
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on March 09, 2011, 01:22:21 AM
I still say Mario Lopez or Joseph Gordon Levitt for Ramirez.

And Chritopher Lee for Merlin.  He does snobby, condescending, can't tell if he's good or evil, but betting on evil, Brit better.

What about Tommy Lee Jones for Marcone?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 09, 2011, 06:49:11 AM
While Christopher Lee would make an excellent Merlin, I feel like it would just be typecasting. And he seems far too sinister. The Merlin isn't evil (as far as we know), he's just an ass.

And Tommy Lee Jones is too old and weathered-looking. Mark Harmon is my choice. Watch an episode or two of NCIS and you'll see why.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 09, 2011, 03:06:17 PM
Don't forget Marcone needs to seem formidably athletic.  You need to believe he can perform precision knife throwing while hanging from one leg over a pit, or strap on his tactical gear and go running atop a train after angelic nightmares.  Soul of a tiger and all that.  If Jason Statham only had hair...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 09, 2011, 03:22:17 PM
Now that I think about it, John Hurt might make a good Merlin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sin on March 09, 2011, 05:55:01 PM
It didn't consciously happen but in my head whenever i read a line spoken by Marcone i hear don Fat Tony from the simpsons. I can't help it, it just happens and adds so much to marcone.

Joe Mantegna does his voice and i think would actually be pretty good for marcone anyway.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on March 09, 2011, 06:28:47 PM
Slight sidetrack, what about

(http://www.mymovies.it/filmclub/attori/54605.jpg)

James Purefoy for Steed?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wardenferry419 on March 09, 2011, 09:31:16 PM
My wife loves this guy. Though, he is too good for such a minor role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: badassassin on March 09, 2011, 10:16:42 PM
Don't forget Marcone needs to seem formidably athletic.  You need to believe he can perform precision knife throwing while hanging from one leg over a pit, or strap on his tactical gear and go running atop a train after angelic nightmares.  Soul of a tiger and all that.  If Jason Statham only had hair...
can you really see jason as a crime lord who looks like a kids soccer coach? he could do the action, but not the acting
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 10, 2011, 01:56:55 AM
Again, people, Mark Harmon is Marcone. For me, anyway.
(http://images.buddytv.com/articles/ncis-finale-gibbs-centric.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on March 10, 2011, 01:59:14 AM
It's just that when Jim describes Langtry, I picture Saruman.

You could give statham hair, but you can't lower his voice.  His voice is just too high pitched for Marcone.  Marcone needs a deeper, more imposing voice.  Threatening without sounding angry.  I could buy Statham for Kincaid.

Comedian Alonzo Bodin for Gatekeeper?  Very tall, deep voice, can do serious.

I agree with Isaiah Mustafa for Sanya.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: badassassin on March 10, 2011, 04:37:29 AM
Alright. Here is my revised cast:

Harry Dresden- Ryan Reynolds
Thomas- James Franco
Carlos Ramirez- Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Marcone- Viggo Mortenson
Michael- Russell Crowe
Sanya- Will Smith
Bob- Johnny Depp
Kinkaid- Hugh Jackman
Luccio- Demi Moore
Morgan- Sean Bean
Lara Raith- Sasha Grey
Lash- Hayden Panattiere
Ebenezer- Sean Connery
Hendricks- Tom Hardy
Nicodemus- Liam Neeson
Uriel- Kevin Pollack
Merlin- Christopher Lee
Cowl- Gary Oldman
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: badassassin on March 10, 2011, 06:38:38 AM
ivy-chloe moretz
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on March 10, 2011, 10:20:52 AM
My wife loves this guy. Though, he is too good for such a minor role.

At the moment he's minor, I have my suspicions over that guy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 10, 2011, 05:41:40 PM
Alright. Here is my revised cast:

Harry Dresden- Ryan Reynolds
Thomas- James Franco
Carlos Ramirez- Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Marcone- Viggo Mortenson
Michael- Russell Crowe
Sanya- Will Smith
Bob- Johnny Depp
Kinkaid- Hugh Jackman
Luccio- Demi Moore
Morgan- Sean Bean
Lara Raith- Sasha Grey
Lash- Hayden Panattiere
Ebenezer- Sean Connery
Hendricks- Tom Hardy
Nicodemus- Liam Neeson
Uriel- Kevin Pollack
Merlin- Christopher Lee
Cowl- Gary Oldman


Fuggeddubaodit!  Crowe's another one on the black list.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ladyeshu on March 10, 2011, 06:48:06 PM
Okay, I cast the movie and assuming I could get these people for an affordable price

Harry-  that's toughest really, because you need a really strong actor who's tall and rangy,  a younger Peter  Coyote mabye   but I'd choose Eric Bana or maybe Christian Bale

Murphy-  she'd be a little voluptuous but I really like Christina Ricci in that role, short, and does badassed very well with a bit of sweetness. 

Thomas-- Brad Pitt.  No contest here.
Morgan-- Alan Rickman    You need menace.  the problem is that before Turn Coat Morgan has few dimensions.
Lara Raith-- Nicole Kidman
Susan-- Rosario Dawson
Bob -- (voiced by John Goodman)
Butters-- Steve Buscemi or a young Wallace Shawn. Okay he's too old but what about Paul Reubens, who might be gettable.
Michael--  he's particularly tough because the actor must pull off Dudley Do-right without going over the top. He needs to  be underplayed.  Steve McQueen would have been perfect but he's too dead for the role.  okay, I'll go for Russell Crowe, who's versatile enough.  Or Gary Oldman.

Nicodemus -- Christoph Waltz--- have you seen inglorious basterds?   
Duke Ortega--  Benecio del Toro
Kincaid --  George Clooney
Queen Mab-- Lena Olin
Aurora-- Scarlett Johansson
Maeve-- Thora Birch (Christina Ricci being taken)
Madrigal Raith -- John Cusack
That's enough for now.






Marcone: Ray Wise
Dresden: Clive Owen or Christian Bale (Really liked that one!) Maybe Hugh Laurie (if we're going older)
Molly: Amanda Seyfried
Murphy: Jessica Marais
Thomas: Jude Law
Susan: Eva Longoria
Morgan: Alan Rickman (would be funny... the man's a genius!) or Ian Glen
Lara Raith: Olivia Wilde or Marena Baccarin
Butters: Anthony Rapp
Ebeneezer: Bruce Willis
Michael: Maybe Sean Bean?

That is all!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on March 10, 2011, 11:36:00 PM
I like this idea[quoteMichael: Maybe Sean Bean? ][/quote]
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SilvrQuik on March 15, 2011, 04:13:26 PM
I don't think it's possible for me to go through nearly 300 pages to see if these have been suggested before. :) But!

I think Misha Collins could make a darned good Dresden. Does well with scruffy, good looking but not overly handsome, does serious & comedy quite well:

(http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2008/10/misha-interview/misha-collins-interview-04.jpg)

And I think Kristen Bell would be a perfect Murphy. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 16, 2011, 01:25:25 AM
After looking through the earlier pages of this thread, I found another suggestion for Murphy: Taylor Schilling
(http://img.clevvertv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/taylor-schilling.jpg)

And Misha Collins would make a good Dresden, I guess. I haven't seen enough of his work (only seen bits and pieces of supernatural) to judge.

And here's the Red King. Yes, I know he's supposed to be kinda short. But it's Danny Trejo! This is a man you don't want to mess with.
(http://themoviegourmet.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/danny-trejo.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 16, 2011, 01:26:44 AM
Trejo, if I remember rightly, is a real ex-con.  So you really would NOT want to tangle with him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 16, 2011, 02:46:34 PM
Also, he has experience playing a vampire.

(http://gotchamovies.com/ul/photos/person/danny-trejo/d93b786e8c7a78b6f7f9dac742fb5a72-sc.jpg)
(http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/from_dusk_till_dawn1.jpg)
...wait, a vampire movie written by Tarantino, directed by Robert Rodriguez, and it has Clooney, Trejo, and Keitel? How have I not seen this?

Come to think of it, Tarantino would make a decent Butters, if we could stop him from dropping F-bombs every minute.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 16, 2011, 03:51:45 PM
No Tarentino would not make a good Butters.
I vote Sharlto Copley (I know I spelled that wrong) for Butters.
The guy from District 9 - he can do crazy/silly really well - witness the A-Team
As for Harry.  Watched Unstoppable last night - a really really good popcorn movie.
I think Chris Pine would make a great Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 16, 2011, 10:52:40 PM
No Tarentino would not make a good Butters.
I vote Sharlto Copley (I know I spelled that wrong) for Butters.
The guy from District 9 - he can do crazy/silly really well - witness the A-Team
As for Harry.  Watched Unstoppable last night - a really really good popcorn movie.
I think Chris Pine would make a great Harry.
Copley could do the character, but he's too old.  Especially if we're talking Chris Pine for Harry, who seems on the young side of things to me

I still dont have a definitive Harry, but Butters is DJ Qualls in my mind. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 17, 2011, 06:53:16 PM
I wouldn't be opposed to a somewhat-animated-ish Dresden Files bit. xD

(hi, long time since I've been here....)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 18, 2011, 12:28:57 AM
If they got the people behind Batman The Animated Series to do it, or maybe Gennedy Tartovsky, that would be perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on March 18, 2011, 01:17:44 AM
I could see an animated series.  As long as they don't try to make Harry play a stupid card game.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 18, 2011, 01:36:13 AM
Going animated gets into a whole new realm of things.
It's possible that they've changed but if the show is stated as being for kids there are a whole raft of rules that you
have to follow that would water down the series.  And as for adult animation - depends.
Animateds by nature tend to be somewhat more simplistic in style and story than a live action.
And doing full on, Disney style animation is really, really expensive.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 18, 2011, 08:56:58 AM
David Tennant for Harry?  ;D

He's a little too pretty boy for Harry though.

But he is scrawny.

heh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 18, 2011, 03:05:33 PM
Going animated gets into a whole new realm of things.
It's possible that they've changed but if the show is stated as being for kids there are a whole raft of rules that you
have to follow that would water down the series.  And as for adult animation - depends.
Animateds by nature tend to be somewhat more simplistic in style and story than a live action.
And doing full on, Disney style animation is really, really expensive.

Ok, that's one of my pet peeves. Just because it's animated, doesn't mean that it has to be simplistic. Plenty of animated stuff has a much better storyline than any live action movie or show. I'm certainly not suggesting that the animated series be made with a younger audience in mind, no sir.

David Tennant for Harry?  ;D

He's a little too pretty boy for Harry though.

But he is scrawny.

heh.
Yeah, but I don't think he could do a convincing American accent. While I would absolutely LOVE to see him as Harry, it wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 18, 2011, 03:10:00 PM
Ok, that's one of my pet peeves. Just because it's animated, doesn't mean that it has to be simplistic. Plenty of animated stuff has a much better storyline than any live action movie or show. I'm certainly not suggesting that the animated series be made with a younger audience in mind, no sir.
Yeah, but I don't think he could do a convincing American accent. While I would absolutely LOVE to see him as Harry, it wouldn't work.

TC - I didn't think you were suggesting something simplistic - it's what the powers that be would think.  (And they don't do a LOT of that.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 18, 2011, 03:17:26 PM
Yeah, but I don't think he could do a convincing American accent. While I would absolutely LOVE to see him as Harry, it wouldn't work.

I think he just needs a better coach and more time to work on it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 18, 2011, 03:18:12 PM
Hi Jaeh, how have you been?  Good I hope.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 18, 2011, 04:09:41 PM
Hi Jaeh, how have you been?  Good I hope.

hi snow, glad you remember me. :D Been busy; probably going to get busier. I missed the forums, though, so I'm here.

besides, with Ghost Story coming in a few months I really can't keep away, lol

you?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 18, 2011, 04:12:44 PM
Hanging in.
Have to move or get evicted.  Sigh.  No fun that.
Am looking forward/dreading GS.  (Now what is JB gonna do to Harry.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 18, 2011, 06:20:15 PM
Ok, so here's a clip from an American tv show pilot that Tennant was on. the show never aired, but it's a good look at how he sounds with an american accent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4cqRsvu9t0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4cqRsvu9t0)

Thoughts? It's not as bad as I thought when I first saw the clip, but there's still something weird about the accent.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: docdoc on March 18, 2011, 08:41:17 PM
I'm new to this thread, but has anyone considered Sarah Michelle Geller (the TV Buffy) as Murphy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 18, 2011, 09:06:03 PM
Hanging in.
Have to move or get evicted.  Sigh.  No fun that.
Am looking forward/dreading GS.  (Now what is JB gonna do to Harry.)

yeah. no fun, indeed. >>.

have you read the first chapter released?

Ok, so here's a clip from an American tv show pilot that Tennant was on. the show never aired, but it's a good look at how he sounds with an american accent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4cqRsvu9t0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4cqRsvu9t0)

Thoughts? It's not as bad as I thought when I first saw the clip, but there's still something weird about the accent.

yep, already saw that.

yeah, thought he needed a better coach. There *was* something weird about it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Koriandr on March 18, 2011, 10:07:51 PM
I'm new to this thread, but has anyone considered Sarah Michelle Geller (the TV Buffy) as Murphy?

I have to admit I loved her as Buffy, but I don't think she has the acting chops to be Murphy. :(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 18, 2011, 11:30:30 PM
Plus, it'd feel too much like we were trying to copy Buffy. And Murph is supposed to be more athletic. I wouldn't be convinced by Sarah Michelle Geller taking down a monster with a chainsaw. And I can't really see her as being serious all the time like Murphy.

So, since the subject was brought up a page or so ago...if there was an animated adaptation, who would you pick as the voice actors for everyone?

Harry=James Marsters
Murphy=Jennifer Hale, maybe. (FemShep in Mass Effect, and about a zillion other roles. I'm trying to stick more to voice actors for this idea)
Bob=Steve Buscemi
Mab=Patricia Drake (Balalaika in the english dub of Black Lagoon. this clip will explain why. She's the woman with the scars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ116EVYVP4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ116EVYVP4))
Morgan=Clancy Brown
Nicodemus=David Kaye (Beast Wars Megatron)
Erlking=Keith David
Cowl=Mark Hamil

That's all I can come up with. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 19, 2011, 01:15:56 AM
yeah. no fun, indeed. >>.

have you read the first chapter released?

yep, already saw that.

yeah, thought he needed a better coach. There *was* something weird about it.

Yes, read the first chapter.  Oh boy, oh boy.  Trust Harry to try to take on a train.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 19, 2011, 02:19:41 AM
Clearly, Harry is actually Sabin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 19, 2011, 02:31:47 AM
???????
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 19, 2011, 03:06:49 AM
Final Fantasy 6. Ghost Train Battle. SABIN SUPLEXES A TRAIN WHILE RUNNING BACKWARDS FASTER THAN IT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u84cH_bmTA&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u84cH_bmTA&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 19, 2011, 05:35:29 PM
Plus, it'd feel too much like we were trying to copy Buffy. And Murph is supposed to be more athletic. I wouldn't be convinced by Sarah Michelle Geller taking down a monster with a chainsaw. And I can't really see her as being serious all the time like Murphy.

So, since the subject was brought up a page or so ago...if there was an animated adaptation, who would you pick as the voice actors for everyone?

Harry=James Marsters
Murphy=Jennifer Hale, maybe. (FemShep in Mass Effect, and about a zillion other roles. I'm trying to stick more to voice actors for this idea)
Bob=Steve Buscemi
Mab=Patricia Drake (Balalaika in the english dub of Black Lagoon. this clip will explain why. She's the woman with the scars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ116EVYVP4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ116EVYVP4))
Morgan=Clancy Brown
Nicodemus=David Kaye (Beast Wars Megatron)
Erlking=Keith David
Cowl=Mark Hamil

That's all I can come up with. Anyone else?

While I personally have not heard it, there is a large following that says JB himself does a Bob that is second to none.  If we're talking voice actor, I would love to see/hear that.  Though him having the time for it is another question entirely. 

Mark Hamil as cowl doesnt work for me, but thats just because Id be constantly expecting him to break in the Joker laugh. 

Clancy Brown for morgan is intersting.  I think I'd take is a step further and go with Michael Ironside.  He's a man that would sound like it physically hurt to say something nice.   To be fair that view may be based largely on their roles as Lex Luthor and Darkseid (respectively) in the DCAU shows. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 20, 2011, 12:58:23 AM
Ah, but Jim has said that Clancy Brown would be the person he'd want to play Morgan in a movie. And he already does voice acting, so...
And when I saw Darkseid in Justice League, he sounded to calm. I'd expect a more gravely voice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Koriandr on March 20, 2011, 10:11:21 PM
While I personally have not heard it, there is a large following that says JB himself does a Bob that is second to none.  If we're talking voice actor, I would love to see/hear that.  Though him having the time for it is another question entirely.

I have personally heard it. And OMG, he absolutely should do Bob's voice. XD It's so hilariously unexpected because Jim has a very nice voice, and then suddenly he does Bob and... XD XD

And wow.... I love Clancy Morgan's work - he'd make a freakin' AWESOME Morgan! *_*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 20, 2011, 10:22:28 PM
I still vote for Tennant as Harry. haha.

Matt Bomer's still pretty much the Thomas for me, but I could also go for Ben Barnes, mainly because of this brilliant fan art I saw on deviantart the other day...

hm, I need to rethink my cast list.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 21, 2011, 12:52:27 AM
If you've got Matt Bomer as Thomas then Chris Pine as Harry.
They look a lot alike but Pine is somewhat more rugged in features.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on March 22, 2011, 08:58:10 AM
Chris Pine isn't nearly thin enough in the face.

I didn't know who Matt Bomer was. Just looked him up. Hubba hubba! I could vote for him for Thomas, easy. :)

I want a young Viggo Mortensen for Harry. I saw somebody suggest Christian Bale, and that might work too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 22, 2011, 02:00:09 PM
I saw somebody suggest Christian Bale, and that might work too.

NO!  MADE OF WOOD!  NO!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 22, 2011, 03:44:19 PM
^^^
Agree.  Besides while Harry can get emotional sometimes he doesn't go emo.  Bale does emo.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 22, 2011, 03:49:19 PM
besides.. he doesn't look like harry. Imho and all.
David Tennant! (If you haven't guessed yet, he's one of those new-favorite-actors-i-just-found-so-i-keep-insisting types...)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on March 22, 2011, 03:51:23 PM
Christian may be freaking awesome actor but im not seein it
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 22, 2011, 03:51:35 PM
besides.. he doesn't look like harry. Imho and all.
David Tennant! (If you haven't guessed yet, he's one of those new-favorite-actors-i-just-found-so-i-keep-insisting types...)

I don't think David Tennant is tall enough or rugged enough to play Harry.
He'd make a good Butters though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 22, 2011, 03:58:55 PM
I don't think David Tennant is tall enough or rugged enough to play Harry.
He'd make a good Butters though.

he does look good in glasses. he's too tall for butters though. the man's 6'1... I think he could manage Harry. And he could grow a shadow or something.. haha
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 22, 2011, 04:00:30 PM
he does look good in glasses. he's too tall for butters though. the man's 6'1... I think he could manage Harry. And he could grow a shadow or something.. haha

Still not seeing it. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 22, 2011, 04:05:05 PM
Still not seeing it. 

I'm just messing around. He's a new favorite actor, so yeah.

So far though, the only actors I've got down is Keanu Reeves for Martin and Matt Bomer for Thomas. Thomas can also be Ben Barnes, though, especially because of this neato fanart by this girl: http://mika-merrylark.deviantart.com/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 22, 2011, 05:06:40 PM
I think David Tennant would make a great Harry. He has the same kind of build I picture Harry as having (He did do a lot of running as the Doctor), and he can do manic and slightly crazy (but in a good way) very well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on March 22, 2011, 05:12:46 PM
Nonono, David Tennant is much too wimpy. He doesn't even register on my toughness scale.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on March 22, 2011, 05:21:25 PM
Hey, how about Joe Manganiello? 6'5"

http://www.listal.com/person/joe-manganiello

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 23, 2011, 12:00:26 AM
I think David Tennant would make a great Harry. He has the same kind of build I picture Harry as having (He did do a lot of running as the Doctor), and he can do manic and slightly crazy (but in a good way) very well.

yes. exactly!

and the guy can act. the toughness bit could be worked on.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 25, 2011, 07:08:09 AM
I just realized a good actor for Father Forthill: Anthony Stewart Head.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 25, 2011, 01:44:59 PM
ooooh that would be interesting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Linnemir on March 25, 2011, 04:58:58 PM
Just a thought -

Bruce Boxlightener (Capt. Sheridan from Bab5; Tron) for the Merlin (Handsome, dignified man, about the right age ...)

John Rhys-Davies for Eb (I know he's a mite tall for the role, but the rest of the build and the voice seem a good match)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on March 25, 2011, 06:05:06 PM
err....nevermind. I just looked him up, and I guess I was wrong!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 25, 2011, 07:06:48 PM
John Rhys-Davies for Eb (I know he's a mite tall for the role, but the rest of the build and the voice seem a good match)

Sallah/Gimli?  Works for me.  Still like Duval, but Rhys-Davies works too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 26, 2011, 02:01:59 AM
Just a thought -

Bruce Boxlightener (Capt. Sheridan from Bab5; Tron) for the Merlin (Handsome, dignified man, about the right age ...)
(http://sharetv.org/images/babylon_5/cast/large/capt_john_sheridan.jpg)

Well, Boxleitner can pull of some facial hair. Not sure if he'd be able to wear the Merlin's beard, though. Also, "about the right age"? The Merlin's around 300, so I'm not sure what you mean by that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Razil on March 28, 2011, 04:00:37 PM
As much as I like the actors in the poll, I don't see any of them as Harry. As some one else mentioned, I can see David Remnant. Or James Marsters.

As for the rest of the cast, I haven't given it much thought. OK, actually Ian McKellan would be a great Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 28, 2011, 04:31:24 PM
As for the rest of the cast, I haven't given it much thought. OK, actually Ian McKellan would be a great Bob.

Wait, what? McKellan is way too dignified for Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Razil on March 28, 2011, 05:10:53 PM
Wait, what? McKellan is way too dignified for Bob.

Physically. But the guy has a great sense of humor. And I always imagine Bob's voice and personality being somewhat at odds. Voice of a scholar, attitude of a school boy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Linnemir on March 28, 2011, 05:59:49 PM
Funny ... I've always pictured Bob as a tenor or very light baritone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on March 28, 2011, 08:40:14 PM
I just watched some Youtube video of Butcher at a con yesterday -- and he actually suggested Alexis Denisov (from Buffy and Angel) as Harry, though he seemed doubtful about that actor's age now. That may have been mentioned in this thread already, but I thought it was interesting!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 28, 2011, 09:24:41 PM
I just watched some Youtube video of Butcher at a con yesterday -- and he actually suggested Alexis Denisov (from Buffy and Angel) as Harry, though he seemed doubtful about that actor's age now. That may have been mentioned in this thread already, but I thought it was interesting!

Muchly and often.  I agree with it.  Not everybody does.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on March 28, 2011, 10:30:15 PM
Muchly and often.  I agree with it.  Not everybody does.

I could maybe go with the burnt-out-chewed-up version of Wesley. I didn't even realize Denisov wasn't British til today when I looked him up. I have an excuse for being fooled by the accent, though, since it turns out he lived in London for more than 10 years....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 29, 2011, 01:14:39 AM
I do imagine Bob with a British accent of some sort. Actually, John Simms would make a great Bob. Ok, so I've only seen him as The Master/Harold Saxon, but do I really need anything else?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on March 29, 2011, 12:44:57 PM
Bruce Campbell would make a great Malcolm Dresden.  The younger (Xena era) Bruce would be the perfect Harry, specially the wise-ass part.  But he wold be great as Harry's dad.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: badassassin on March 29, 2011, 04:28:23 PM
what about johnathan rhys-meyers? maybe for thomas? or carlos? he was very much a pretty boy for from paris with love, but he could prob pull off badass very well too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 29, 2011, 09:49:47 PM
Bruce Campbell would make a great Malcolm Dresden.  The younger (Xena era) Bruce would be the perfect Harry, specially the wise-ass part.  But he wold be great as Harry's dad.

This. This so very much. End of discussion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on March 29, 2011, 11:56:24 PM
Motion seconded, approved unanimously.

BUT the part would be way too small to do Bruce any justice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 30, 2011, 01:21:44 AM
But if we give him too much of a role, he'd overwhelm everything.

There was a suggestion for Bruce as Carmichael a few pages back, actually.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on March 30, 2011, 02:16:02 AM
But if we give him too much of a role, he'd overwhelm everything.

You say that as though it would be a BAD thing.... ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 30, 2011, 02:21:05 AM
Yes, a good movie is the sum of it's parts.
If one performer overwhelms then the movie loses it's validity.
I want to see a Harry Dresden movie where I can lose myself in the story and
NOT be seeing anyone performer but rather the characters.

By the By, I don't think Bruce Campbell for Carmichael nor particularly for Harry.
A bit too much.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on March 30, 2011, 04:13:44 AM
Yes, a good movie is the sum of it's parts.
If one performer overwhelms then the movie loses it's validity.
I want to see a Harry Dresden movie where I can lose myself in the story and
NOT be seeing anyone performer but rather the characters.

By the By, I don't think Bruce Campbell for Carmichael nor particularly for Harry.
A bit too much.

Awww, don't get all serious on me. I'm busy appreciating Bruce over here..... ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 30, 2011, 07:44:04 AM
Okay.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on March 30, 2011, 08:32:28 PM
What about Walken? I think there's a law that he has to show up in everything.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on March 30, 2011, 08:54:01 PM
What about Walken? I think there's a law that he has to show up in everything.

Does Harry need more cowbell?? ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 30, 2011, 09:21:02 PM
YES!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on March 31, 2011, 02:13:49 AM
Yes, a good movie is the sum of it's parts.
If one performer overwhelms then the movie loses it's validity.

You mean like Nicholson did to the Batman movie?

BTW, for those Bruce fans, USA network has made a Burn Notice prequel centered on Sam Axe.  It's called "The Fall of Sam Axe."  From the trailers they've made him look kinda young.  I don't know when it's airing, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BonnieGwen on April 02, 2011, 08:05:53 AM
I love Nathan Fillion but sorry guys he just too old to be Harry, back when he played Mel in firefly he would have been perfect!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on April 03, 2011, 03:53:39 PM
I love Nathan Fillion but sorry guys he just too old to be Harry, back when he played Mel in firefly he would have been perfect!
He hasn't aged THAT much...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: thetomb on April 04, 2011, 01:40:19 AM
i keep sayin it (or do i ?) Ryan Reynolds for the voice of bob. i would piss myself with laughter if half the stuff bob said came out of his mouth. hes just got the sarcasm.

OMG Yes SO MUCH!!!

Or Tim Curry

But why Nathan Fillion for Harry?  I don't see it.  And I'm a huge Fan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 04, 2011, 01:41:52 AM
TIM CURRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for Nathan Fillion, he's only 40 this year -- so definitely in the range of at least the later books so far. I think he could do well in the part, but his face really isn't hard enough IMHO. I really still want a youngish Viggo Mortensen.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 04, 2011, 07:56:40 AM
I think young or old Viggo has too much gravitas for Harry.
Not a bad thing just not a Harry Dresden thing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 04, 2011, 07:59:03 AM
I think young or old Viggo has too much gravitas for Harry.
Not a bad thing just not a Harry Dresden thing.

He can do smartass, though. And he's sooooooo good at the world-weary thing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 04, 2011, 08:03:22 AM
Yeah, but not at Harry's level of smart assery.  (I know NOT a real word)
Viggo can make a smart ass comment but doesn't usually do the sometimes running
litany that Harry does.  A young Viggo would be a good Tilly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 04, 2011, 08:38:10 AM
Ehhh, he just hasn't been given the chance. He's great at anger and suppressed suffering, he's lean, he's got the chin.....

How about if Viggo and Bruce Campbell had a love child? ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 04, 2011, 12:43:59 PM
He'd be so manly that he'd sweat Old Spice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 04, 2011, 04:27:32 PM
He'd be so manly that he'd sweat Old Spice.

ROTFLMAO!

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MissMilkMaid on April 04, 2011, 08:22:50 PM
Harry
From the pole list the only one I like is Hugh Jackman. One of my all time favorite actors. However, he's a little too buff and good-looking for our beanpole wizard hero. Also, Jackman would be be a little old for Storm Front. A Young Jackman, maybe, he's still too pretty though.
(http://bestof.provocateuse.com/images/photos/hugh_jackman_92.jpg)

Off list I always imagined Dresden to look something like David Tennant, only taller and with darker hair. However, Tennant's voice isn't right and even though Tennent is a very talented actor with all the right attitude, he can't pull off a very good American accent, or at least so I've heard.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wIo-eFWjUmU/Sz5inIaU1qI/AAAAAAAABG0/AFHcd_ZQHV4/s400/DavidTennant10.jpg)

In the end I think Alexis Denisof would be best. He looks the right amount of skinny and scruffy and if WoJ is that Jim likes him as Harry, then Denisof sounds like a good choice to me.
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u250/heuchelinchen/Angel/Autogramme/Alexis%20Denisof/AlexisDenisof.jpg)

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I do not like Fillion as Dresden. He's way too old, is face doesn't have the sharpness of Harry's face, he's too charming/cute. And personally I don't think he can pull off dramatic acting very well. With comedy he's great. He could do the jokes, but I can't see him pulling off the sacrifice and angst Harry goes through. Besides his eyes aren't even the right color.
(http://cdn.everyjoe.com/files/2009/03/nathan-fillion-zumaltwo029753abcallstarparty21.jpg)

I also don't like Padalecki. He's too pretty and broad-shouldered. His face has a soft, almost boyish quality, even when he's trying to go scruffy and that's just not the way Dresden is described at all. I can maybe see Padalecki as Thomas, but not Harry.
(http://www.2flashgames.com/photo/file/jared_padalecki/Jared_Padalecki_0002.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 04, 2011, 08:51:00 PM
Padalecki can't act his way out of a wet paper bag. Fillion CAN do angst and drama -- he's great in Firefly -- but his face isn't hard enough. Denisof would be pretty good, but he's too old now. Jackman would be great, but for the problems you stated. Tennant is a wimp.

Here's a relative unknown whom I suggested earlier -- Joe Manganiello -- and I think he's 6'5" -- http://www.imdb.com/media/rm738427392/nm0542133

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MissMilkMaid on April 04, 2011, 09:06:56 PM
I liked Firefly, and Fillion did an okay at least with the action and the jokes. I think the show could have done better, if they'd gotten a stronger, more serious actor to play Mal. I found the serious/deeper sides of the character hard to buy. In general get a "buffoon" impression from Fillion, weather he's playing Mal, Castle or Captain Hammer.      

I take some slight offense at you calling Tennant wimpy. It takes serious acting to do Hamlet and in my opinion he's by far the best Docor Who. Does a great job at being a likable, funny and sacrificial hero, who can take on the universe if necessary. Anyway, what's the point of calling an actor a wimp? The point of acting is to take on whatever characteristics the role demands.

Are you suggesting Mangeniello for Dresden? He looks more like Michael to me. The build is way to buff and broad shouldered for Harry. Hight is less important than build. Camera angel can make an actor look taller, but they can't make them look skinnier.  
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 04, 2011, 09:34:40 PM
I take some slight offense at you calling Tennant wimpy.

Hey -- if you get to call Fillion a buffoon, I get to call Tennant wimpy. ;)

Quote
Are you suggesting Mangeniello for Dresden? He looks more like Michael to me. The build is way to buff and broad shouldered for Harry. Hight is less important than build. Camera angel can make an actor look taller, but they can't make them look skinnier.   

I agree with you that he's buffer than JB's description -- but nobody is gonna be perfect. And I've already pretty much settled on my ideal for Thomas, thanks to the folks here -- Matt Bomer.

http://www.google.com/images?q=Matt+Bomer&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&sa=X&ei=QTmaTbz1Bc69tgeIuID4Cw&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=960&bih=513
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 04, 2011, 09:45:25 PM
I just had a thought for Butters:

(http://rocknrollghost.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/DonalLogue_John_Shea_14170612.jpg)

Donal Logue.  In G4L at least he had that silly vibe that Butters gives off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MissMilkMaid on April 04, 2011, 09:49:45 PM
He looks way to big to be Butters to me.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 04, 2011, 09:51:41 PM
Rhys-Davies did short in LotR, and he was one of the biggest guys on the set.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MissMilkMaid on April 04, 2011, 10:09:19 PM
And I've already pretty much settled on my ideal for Thomas, thanks to the folks here -- Matt Bomer.

Thomas:
I like Bomer, though he strikes me more as cute than supernatural vampire with god-like looks. I haven't seen him act, so I don't know about voice and attitude. (I really should watch White Collar I've hear a lot of good things about it.) But if Bomer has a billion dollar smile I'd be sold. Thomas's smile is the most important thing in my mind.
(http://laist.com/attachments/la_tomdog/White-Collar-Matthew-Bomer.jpg)

As other options I offer Jared Leto. He's pretty and has great eyes. I think he's got more of the supernatural vampire look, but seems to lack the flamboyant charm. Also he's a little girly.
(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/2125106/Jared+Leto.jpg) (http://www.fest21.com/files/images/Jared%20Leto.jpg)

Thirdly has anyone suggested Ben Barns? He played Dorian Grey and did a good job with the haunting/supernatural beauty. His eyes are the wrong color, but I bet he could ware contacts and he has a nice smile. Smile is key to Thomas in my mind.
(http://ones2watch4.com/content/wp-content/gallery/ben-barnes/ben-barnes-portrait.jpg) (http://i2.listal.com/image/426216/500full.jpg) (http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/doriang-b.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Paynesgrey on April 04, 2011, 10:14:49 PM
Bah.  Everyone knows Tom Cruise is perfect for the role.

*Runs giggling from the thread, dodging the rotted fruit and flaming axes...*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 04, 2011, 10:19:24 PM
Hubbahubbahubba.....

(http://webpages.charter.net/amazondoc/Matt1.gif) (http://webpages.charter.net/amazondoc/Matt2.gif) (http://webpages.charter.net/amazondoc/Matt3.gif)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on April 04, 2011, 11:32:25 PM
Hubbahubbahubba.....

(http://webpages.charter.net/amazondoc/Matt1.gif) (http://webpages.charter.net/amazondoc/Matt2.gif) (http://webpages.charter.net/amazondoc/Matt3.gif)
OMG Yummy.  *drool*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MissMilkMaid on April 04, 2011, 11:35:57 PM
Well, Bomer seems to be having the Thomas effect on some people anyway.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 04, 2011, 11:40:45 PM
Speaking of supernaturally good looks, I think the Sam Witwer -- who plays Aidan on the American version of Being Human -- is incredibly good looking. But I don't think he'd be right for Thomas.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1022429/mediaindex
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MissMilkMaid on April 05, 2011, 12:06:08 AM
We must have very different tastes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 05, 2011, 12:28:45 AM
Fortunately, we're allowed. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MissMilkMaid on April 05, 2011, 04:28:08 AM
I like Christian Kane for Kincade. He needs to be about a foot taller, but other than that he seems perfect to me.
(http://blog.newsok.com/bamsblog/files/2008/12/leverage_christian-kane-6_ph-michael-muller.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cipher on April 05, 2011, 04:55:35 AM
Here are some of my possible suggestions:

Harry - Niall Matter (Zane from Eureka)
Molly - Jena Malone (Sucker Punch)
Butters - either A.J. Buckley (CSI NY) or Neil Grayston (Fargo from Eureka)
Thomas - I like Matt Bomer too.
Nicodemus - Christophe Waltz or Matt Frewer
Marcone - Adrian Pasdar
Bob - either voiced by Hugh Laurie or Malcolm McDowell
Morgan - Scott Glenn
Michael - Karl Urban
Sanya - Djimon Hounsou
Shiro - (Kim Chan if he was still alive)
Kincaid - Christian Kane
Ivy - I was thinking Abigail Breslin but she may be to old

Murphy seems to be the tough cast for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: thetomb on April 05, 2011, 06:53:04 AM
TIM CURRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for Nathan Fillion, he's only 40 this year -- so definitely in the range of at least the later books so far. I think he could do well in the part, but his face really isn't hard enough IMHO. I really still want a youngish Viggo Mortensen.

I love Nathan so I could tolerate him in the movie.  But here's a question:  If you could only make one of the books into a movie, which one and why?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 05, 2011, 07:38:54 AM
Off the top of my head I'd say Grave Peril -- because it's the first one I really fell in love with, because a lot of it would be very cinematic, and because it's still closer to the roots of Harry-wizard-noir-detective. I reserve the right to change my mind. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MissMilkMaid on April 05, 2011, 07:07:05 PM
I've always Marcone to look like George Clooney, only with green eyes. I think the hair, age and attitude/voice is perfect. Plus I think a top of the A list actor should do Marcone. It's a difcult role, super bada$$ and yet super subtel. He needs alot of presence and I think Cloony would pull it off really well.

(http://clothesonfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/The-American_George-Clooney-suit-CU_2010-Focus-Features-LLC.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on April 05, 2011, 07:11:19 PM
I can see Clooney saying "He broke the rules.  No children."  In a voice that would send chills down your spine.  I second him for Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 05, 2011, 08:26:28 PM
Oh yeah, good idea. Clooney could go from football coach to crime lord with the shift of an eyelash....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MissMilkMaid on April 05, 2011, 08:55:22 PM
Then again if we can't get Clooney, Marcone I'd say Joaquin Phoenix as second choice. Not as good as actor, but he has the eyes.

(http://hotcelebrity.name/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/joaquin_phoenix240.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: LordDresden on April 05, 2011, 09:21:16 PM
I've always Marcone to look like George Clooney, only with green eyes. I think the hair, age and attitude/voice is perfect. Plus I think a top of the A list actor should do Marcone. It's a difcult role, super bada$$ and yet super subtel. He needs alot of presence and I think Cloony would pull it off really well.

(http://clothesonfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/The-American_George-Clooney-suit-CU_2010-Focus-Features-LLC.jpg)

With you on this one!  Clooney is perfect for the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MissMilkMaid on April 06, 2011, 06:18:51 AM
Oh I really like Emma Watson as Lascial/Lash. Or maybe as Anna Valmont, in Death Masks. Either one I can see her being really good.

(http://biographymini.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Emma-Watson-Profile.jpg)


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 06, 2011, 02:00:44 PM
Clooney's my second choice for Marcone. Mark Harmon is first.
(http://www.seat42f.com/images/stories/tvshows/NCIS/mark-harmon-gibbs-ncis.jpg)

I just feel like he makes a much more believable badass than Clooney.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: EntertainUs on April 06, 2011, 03:26:04 PM
Dianna Agron looks like Molly in my head. She was in I Am Number 4 and Ive read shes on Glee but Ive never seen it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 06, 2011, 05:33:26 PM
Clooney is SO much better at acting than Harmon.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 06, 2011, 06:13:50 PM
Clooney is SO much better at acting than Harmon.

You gotta be careful with those accusations around here.  Looootta Harmon fans around these parts.

Oh, and I second CK as Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 06, 2011, 06:15:06 PM
You gotta be careful with those accusations around here.  Looootta Harmon fans around these parts.

Yeah, my dad has an NCIS addiction too. Just Say No!!

;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 06, 2011, 06:19:38 PM
Yeah, my dad has an NCIS addiction too. Just Say No!!

;D

Y?  Harmon's a bad@$$, Weatherly's a great actor, and de Pablo's HOOOOOT!  To say nothing of McCallum and Perrette.  That show's loaded with talent, and the offshoot has Linda Hunt, which makes it at least as good as the original.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 07, 2011, 01:28:23 AM
I love the Linda Hunt character.  What is it one bad guy called her - "A vicious pixie!" ROTFLMAO!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cipher on April 07, 2011, 01:47:10 AM
She could play Murphy's mother.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 07, 2011, 01:51:09 AM
Y?  Harmon's a bad@$$, Weatherly's a great actor, and de Pablo's HOOOOOT!  To say nothing of McCallum and Perrette.  That show's loaded with talent, and the offshoot has Linda Hunt, which makes it at least as good as the original.

I'll stay away from your TT.....but I'll be looking at you with great pity on my face..... ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 07, 2011, 03:26:11 AM
Has anyone mentioned how great tom cruise would be as kincaid
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on April 07, 2011, 11:17:19 AM
why haven't you been banned yet?  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 07, 2011, 02:15:27 PM
Come to think of it, Muse Watson (the guy who plays Mike Franks on NCIS) sounds almost exactly like Ebenezar should. By which I mean that he sounds like James Marsters' voice for Eb in the audiobooks. He doesn't have the build for the character, but the voice and accent are perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 07, 2011, 03:53:51 PM
Has anyone mentioned how great tom cruise would be as kincaid

WHY YOU LOW-DOWN DIRTY NO-GOOD USELESS SON OF A TWO-FACED JACKAL'S THIRD COUSIN FOUR TIMES REMOVED!  NO!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 07, 2011, 04:05:21 PM
I think Grey Warden is just twisting your tail WJM - as he is wont to do.

A better comment would be - MAY THE FLEAS OF A THOUSAND CAMELS INFEST YOUR CODPIECE!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 07, 2011, 06:46:56 PM
I think Grey Warden is just twisting your tail WJM - as he is wont to do.

I know he is.  Doesn't stop me from cussing him out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 07, 2011, 08:34:28 PM
A better comment would be - MAY THE FLEAS OF A THOUSAND CAMELS INFEST YOUR CODPIECE!!

You forgot part of that curse. The full version is "May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your crotch, and may your arms be too short to scratch."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 08, 2011, 12:27:35 AM
You forgot part of that curse. The full version is "May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your crotch, and may your arms be too short to scratch."

lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 08, 2011, 01:30:02 AM
I always liked - May you be infested with a plague of saber tooth crotch crickets.
(my addenda) - Big, mean, rabid ones!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: OrangeWolf on April 08, 2011, 10:46:30 AM
Well, I picked Joe Flanigan with Quinto coming in second.  But that's based solely on the primary picture each had up on IMDb as I didn't know who any of them were.  So I couldn't really vote based on acting style or things like height (b/c Harry is tall, and a man who is 5'6" might not fit the role).  After reading a few of their work histories I have seen some of the things a few of them were in though.

And I'm definitely not reading this entire thread before posting as I usually try to do, hah.  Though I am intrigued by the idea of a movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on April 09, 2011, 07:08:30 PM
(younger)Freddy Rodriguez as Ramirez.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on April 10, 2011, 03:59:43 PM
My full male casting...

Harry - Zachary Quinto
Eb     - Robert Duvall
kincaid- Christian kane
Langtry- Terrance stamp
Justine dumorne- malcolm mcdowell
Thomas- Matt bomer
morgan - rade serbedzija
Billy - Ryan merriman
Rashid - Ian Mc"effing"Shane
Voice of Bob- Bruce campbell
Hendrix-Kevin McKidd
nicodemus - lambert wilson
Marcone - titus welliver

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MissMilkMaid on April 11, 2011, 04:28:10 AM
Eh I don't like Quinto for Harry at all. Course I can't help but associate Quito with Heroes and I hated that show.

I was looking up tall actors, and I found this guy who's actually 6'7" and he looks a lot like Harry to me. Of course he's hardly been in anything, so he probably can't act, but for looks he seems to fit really well. Name's Marnix Van Den Broeke.

(http://image.qpicture.com/image/m/artist-marnix-van-den-broeke/45245.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on April 11, 2011, 05:24:04 PM
I like the Idea of Kevin Mckidd as as Hendrick but Ian Mcshane as Rashid I do not see at all he is to short for one.  But what about Michael Williams as Rashid, Omar from HBO's The Wire.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 11, 2011, 05:35:11 PM
I like the Idea of Kevin Mckidd as as Hendrick but Ian Mcshane as Rashid I do not see at all he is to short for one.  But what about Michael Williams as Rashid, Omar from HBO's The Wire.
   

Kevin McKid isn't massive enough to be Hendricks, but I do like him. How about him as Kincaid?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 11, 2011, 06:07:07 PM
nope. I think Christian Kane has that one locked up. He's a good second though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 11, 2011, 06:14:48 PM
nope. I think Christian Kane has that one locked up. He's a good second though.

I'm not all that fond of Christian Kane. What about him appeals to you as Kincaid?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 11, 2011, 07:46:46 PM
I'm not all that fond of Christian Kane. What about him appeals to you as Kincaid?

Elliot Spencer.  'nuff said.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 11, 2011, 07:59:31 PM
I dunno......this doesn't exactly look like Kincaid to me....

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1114539008/tt1103987
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 11, 2011, 10:19:26 PM
Well no.  But this does.

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liir8fILWg1qbmp7lo1_500.gif)

As does this.

http://leverage.wikia.com/wiki/Eliot_Spencer#Character_Background

Quote
Christian revealed that he based Eliot on B.A. Baracus from The A-Team.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on April 11, 2011, 10:27:56 PM
Well no.  But this does.

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liir8fILWg1qbmp7lo1_500.gif)

As does this.

http://leverage.wikia.com/wiki/Eliot_Spencer#Character_Background

I would have to agree... Back in Angel he did a pretty good job kicking ass... I can see it...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MissMilkMaid on April 12, 2011, 12:42:19 AM
Casting for Death Masks
I decided to cast DM, because I'm the most familiar with that book and because it has a lot of my favorite characters in it. Beside the names I put a number ranging from 1 to 5, which indicates how much I like the casting. 1 means I don't really like it, but couldn't think of anyone better and 5 means I think the casting is perfect. I tried to consider both looks and talent.  

Harry: Hugh Jackman (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Tukb4SnDqdE/TCDSWoNhLmI/AAAAAAAACtI/aU-YMNYyeKw/s1600/Hugh+Jackman+-+Collum.jpg) - 3
Mort Linquist : Steve Buscemi (http://www.moviewatchlist.com/cast_gallery/images/Steve%20Buscemi%20(7).jpg) - 5
Larry Fowler: Tom Cruise (http://www.topbuzznews.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/tom-cruise-dead.jpg) - 4
Father Vincent: Willem Dafoe (http://verdoux.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/willem-dafoe.jpg) - 2
Ortega: Antonio Banderas (http://www.celebrities.pl/antonio_banderas/antonio3.jpg) - 4
Susan: Erica Cerra (http://i.newsarama.com/images/Erica-Cerra-1_02.jpg) - 4
Martin: Jim Butcher (http://www.orbitbooks.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Jim-Butcher-c.jpg)  ;D - 4
Murphy: Scarlett Johansson (http://www.best.celebity-foto.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/scarlett_johansson_1.jpg) - 2
Butters: Seth Green (http://img.listal.com/image/480278/600full-seth-green.jpg) - 4
Sanya: Chiwetel Ejiofor (http://geekcentricity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/506x316chiwetellh9.jpg) - 4
Shiro: Ken Watanabe (http://wearemoviegeeks.com/wp-content/ken-watanabe.jpg) - 1
Micheal: Russell Crowe (http://www.wildsound-filmmaking-feedback-events.com/images/russell_crowe_gladiator.jpg) - 3
Farther Forthill: Mark Sheppard (http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/997/997653/mark-sheppard-20090624023547605_640w.jpg) - 1
Voice of Bob: Eddie Izzard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VDwc8CfIE4&feature=related) - 4
Ebenezer: Jeff Bridges (http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20071121/293.bridges.jeff.112107.jpg)  - 4
Kincade: Christian Kane (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Lindsey_McDonald.gif) - 5
Ivy: Elle Fanning (http://charlespaolino.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/elle_fanning.jpg%3Fw%3D108%26h%3D150) - 4
Molly: Alyson Michalka (http://whofakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/alyson_michalka_fakesjpg.jpg) - 3
Charity: Cate Blanchett (http://images.wikia.com/indianajones/images/1/1b/Cate_Blanchett.jpg) - 4
Anna Valmont: Emma Watson (http://www.freewallpapershd.net/wallpaper-original/wallpapers/emma-watson-2011-fashion-2270.jpg) - 5
Deirdre: Miley Cyrus (http://www.nashvillescene.com/imager/miley-cyrus-consumer-protection-freedom-fighter/b/original/1477721/1348/miley_cyrus.jpg) - 4
Mac: Bruce Willis (http://www.mjbnewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/Bruce-Willis.jpg) - 4
Thomas: Matt Bomer (http://bios.weddingbee.com/pics/87245/Matt-Bomer-sexy_300.jpg) - 3
Marcone: George Clooney (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j0FtS452zPs/TaBXJ1XdnyI/AAAAAAAAMTg/AFvsziKq_hU/s400/george%2Bclooney.jpg) - 5
Hendricks: Matthew Willig (http://static.cinemagia.ro/img/db/actor/08/54/36/matthew-willig-120477l.jpg) - 2
Gard: Uma Thurman (http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2008/02/uma-thurman.jpg) - 3
Nicodemus: Robert Downey Jr. (http://bangbangbreakfast.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/robert-downey-jr.jpg) - 4
Cassius: Michael Sheen (http://cdn2.team-twilight.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/MichaelSheen1.jpg) - 5
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjsharks on April 12, 2011, 12:48:01 AM
You forgot part of that curse. The full version is "May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your crotch, and may your arms be too short to scratch."

I think this may be my new sig ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 12, 2011, 01:08:29 AM
Casting for Death Masks

You've got some outstanding ideas there. If only Hugh were 10 years younger, I'd pretty much kill to seehim as Harry. I think I'd barf, though, if I had to see Emma Watson in any more movies. She can't act her way out of a wet paper bag.

My special faves from your list:

Hugh Jackman
Steve Buscemi
Erica Cerra
Seth Green!
Chiwetel Ejiofor
Alyson Michalka
Robert Downy
George Clooney
And, of course, Matt Bomer!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 12, 2011, 01:13:38 AM
Casting for Death Masks
I decided to cast DM, because I'm the most familiar with that book and because it has a lot of my favorite characters in it. Beside the names I put a number ranging from 1 to 5, which indicates how much I like the casting. 1 means I don't really like it, but couldn't think of anyone better and 5 means I think the casting is perfect. I tried to consider both looks and talent. 

Harry: Hugh Jackman (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Tukb4SnDqdE/TCDSWoNhLmI/AAAAAAAACtI/aU-YMNYyeKw/s1600/Hugh+Jackman+-+Collum.jpg) - 3
Mort Linquist : Steve Buscemi (http://www.moviewatchlist.com/cast_gallery/images/Steve%20Buscemi%20(7).jpg) - 5
Larry Fowler: Tom Cruise (http://www.topbuzznews.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/tom-cruise-dead.jpg) - 4
Father Vincent: Willem Dafoe (http://verdoux.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/willem-dafoe.jpg) - 2
Ortega: Antonio Banderas (http://www.celebrities.pl/antonio_banderas/antonio3.jpg) - 4
Susan: Erica Cerra (http://i.newsarama.com/images/Erica-Cerra-1_02.jpg) - 4
Martin: Jim Butcher (http://www.orbitbooks.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Jim-Butcher-c.jpg)  ;D - 4
Murphy: Scarlett Johansson (http://www.best.celebity-foto.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/scarlett_johansson_1.jpg) - 2
Butters: Seth Green (http://img.listal.com/image/480278/600full-seth-green.jpg) - 4
Sanya: Chiwetel Ejiofor (http://geekcentricity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/506x316chiwetellh9.jpg) - 4
Shiro: Ken Watanabe (http://wearemoviegeeks.com/wp-content/ken-watanabe.jpg) - 1
Micheal: Russell Crowe (http://www.wildsound-filmmaking-feedback-events.com/images/russell_crowe_gladiator.jpg) - 3
Farther Forthill: Mark Sheppard (http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/997/997653/mark-sheppard-20090624023547605_640w.jpg) - 1
Voice of Bob: Eddie Izzard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VDwc8CfIE4&feature=related) - 4
Ebenezer: Jeff Bridges (http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20071121/293.bridges.jeff.112107.jpg)  - 4
Kincade: Christian Kane (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Lindsey_McDonald.gif) - 5
Ivy: Elle Fanning (http://charlespaolino.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/elle_fanning.jpg%3Fw%3D108%26h%3D150) - 4
Molly: Alyson Michalka (http://whofakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/alyson_michalka_fakesjpg.jpg) - 3
Charity: Cate Blanchett (http://images.wikia.com/indianajones/images/1/1b/Cate_Blanchett.jpg) - 4
Anna Valmont: Emma Watson (http://e.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/Gambar/celebrity/normal-emma-watson.jpg) - 5
Deirdre: Miley Cyrus (http://www.nashvillescene.com/imager/miley-cyrus-consumer-protection-freedom-fighter/b/original/1477721/1348/miley_cyrus.jpg) - 4
Mac: Bruce Willis (http://www.mjbnewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/Bruce-Willis.jpg) - 4
Thomas: Matt Bomer (http://bios.weddingbee.com/pics/87245/Matt-Bomer-sexy_300.jpg) - 3
Marcone: George Clooney (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j0FtS452zPs/TaBXJ1XdnyI/AAAAAAAAMTg/AFvsziKq_hU/s400/george%2Bclooney.jpg) - 5
Hendricks: Matthew Willig (http://static.cinemagia.ro/img/db/actor/08/54/36/matthew-willig-120477l.jpg) - 2
Gard: Uma Thurman (http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2008/02/uma-thurman.jpg) - 3
Nicodemus: Robert Downey Jr. (http://bangbangbreakfast.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/robert-downey-jr.jpg) - 4
Cassius: Michael Sheen (http://cdn2.team-twilight.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/MichaelSheen1.jpg) - 5

Harry-Jackman doesn't really fit with what I imagine.
Mort-Yes. Buscemi is perfect. Well, him or Kurt Fuller
Larry Fowler- YES. ALSO PERFECT.
Father Vincent-Dafoe would make it far too obvious that he's a bad guy.
Ortega-I imagine him a bit older. Maybe Benicio Del Toro.
Susan-Sure, why not.
Martin-Not nearly bland enough.
Murphy-NO. Scarlett Johansson is NOT Murphy. Too tall, for one thing, and Murphy should be more athletic (yes, I saw Iron Man 2. Not terribly convincing).
Butters-Yeah, Seth Green would be a good Butters
Sanya-Yes.
Shiro-I can't think of anyone better, so we'll go with him.
Michael-No. Just No.
Forthill-Used to him being a villain, but I'm always up for Mark Sheppard in something
Bob-HELL TO THE YES.
Ebenezar-Yeah, man!
Kincaid-Yes
Ivy-sure
Molly-She's supposed to be 14 or so in this one, remember?
Charity-I dunno. Blanchett's a good actress, but she doesn't quite fit with how I imagine Charity.
Anna Valmont-Not who I'd pick, but I can't think of anyone better.
Deirdre-NO. JUST NO. DO NOT GIVE THAT ABOMINATION ANY MORE ATTENTION.
Mac-*affirmative grunt*
Thomas-Yeah, I think most of us agree on him.
Marcone-My second choice, after Mark Harmon. Clooney's ok.
Hendricks-Haven't seen him in anything, but he has the look.
Gard-Well, we know she can kick ass.
Nicodemus-I don't think RDJ can do sinister well enough. In my mind, Timothy Dalton is Nicodemus.
Cassius-I thought Cassius was supposed to have darker skin? Honestly, I have no one in mind for him, so sure.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MissMilkMaid on April 12, 2011, 01:19:39 AM
You've got some outstanding ideas there. If only Hugh were 10 years younger, I'd pretty much kill to seehim as Harry. I think I'd barf, though, if I had to see Emma Watson in any more movies. She can't act her way out of a wet paper bag.

Well compared to the other kid actors in HP I thought Watson wasn't so bad.

My special faves from your list:

Hugh Jackman
Steve Buscemi


Erica Cerra
Seth Green!
Chiwetel Ejiofor
Alyson Michalka
Robert Downy
George Clooney
And, of course, Matt Bomer!

:D I like the idea of Downey as Nicodumus. If anyone and make an animated flying shadow look cool I think RDJ can. Plus he can do a good British accent and be both refined yet wild-eyed crazy at the same time. 

Quote
Ortega-I imagine him a bit older. Maybe Benicio Del Toro.
Bandera is a bit older. I should have put up a more recant picture, but in all of them he had facial hair, which just didn't look right.

Quote
Deirdre-NO. JUST NO. DO NOT GIVE THAT ABOMINATION ANY MORE ATTENTION.

Hey an abomination to play an abomination. I think it fits. Deirdre is a stupid, crazy bitch. SO who else?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 12, 2011, 01:25:26 AM
Well compared to the other kid actors in HP I thought Watson wasn't so bad.

Just stick a fork in my eyes and put me out of my misery.... ;)

But I can **absolutely** see Seth Green yelling "Polka Will Never Die!!" ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on April 12, 2011, 01:51:38 AM
Quote
Deirdre-NO. JUST NO. DO NOT GIVE THAT ABOMINATION ANY MORE ATTENTION.

Ok how about snookie then...

seriously though, my full female cast goes

Murphy- Nikki aycox
Molly - taylor momsen
susan- sarah shahi
elaine- anna torv
ivy- whichever the next fanning is in the litter
leah -christina hendrix
georgia- mary elizabeth winstead
mavra- alice krige
Luccio/corpsetaker- alexa davalos
Charity- got in the habit of picturing amanda detmer for a while but recently thought elizabeth mitchell

NO FRIGGIN IDEA FOR LARA OR THE SIDHE GIRLS!

also I don't know why, but dominic monaghan is my type cast for fix

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: docdoc on April 12, 2011, 02:28:40 AM
consider for Ebenezar

William Devane
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 12, 2011, 02:47:06 AM
He would need makeup but Paul Blackthorne for Rashid.
Cause he's gonna be taller than most anybody else you get for Harry.
Besides he wasn't a bad Harry and deserves a chance to be in the movie.  So there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 12, 2011, 03:54:57 AM
Oh, I keep forgetting to mention -- Lara is Angelina Jolie. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 12, 2011, 04:24:09 AM
Oh, I keep forgetting to mention -- Lara is Angelina Jolie. :)

nope
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 12, 2011, 04:26:17 AM
Yesyes. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on April 12, 2011, 04:33:11 AM
I think I'd like to see a new, unknown actor cast as Harry. Someone who can pull off not only his personality and snark but also the physicality of the role. For one thing, Harry is a very tall, sinister-looking guy. I think that's an important part of what makes Harry who he is.There is also the physical aspect of the performance to consider. Harry is an action hero but often times in the most ungraceful and undignified way.

Also, Summer Glau should be cast as Karrin Murphy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sjsharks on April 12, 2011, 04:44:54 AM
*sneaks in*

You guys know who would make a really good Harry?

TOM CRUISE

(its pink for a reason ;D)

*sneaks out
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 12, 2011, 04:47:03 AM
*sneaks in*

You guys know who would make a really good Harry?

TOM CRUISE

(its pink for a reason ;D)

*sneaks out

You know something? I raise chickens.
You know what that means?? I have LOTS of eggs that I could start throwing at you..... ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 12, 2011, 06:30:10 AM
nope

No way.  Jolie shouldn't have any part of a Dresden movie - sorry.
And I don't really see Summer Glau as Murphy.  You need a woman not a girl.

Besides eggs I know where to find lots of rotten veggies and cat scat - so DO NOT
bring that name up again anywhere in connection with the Dresden Files movie. >:(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 12, 2011, 06:39:16 AM
No way.  Jolie shouldn't have any part of a Dresden movie - sorry.

Well.....I agree that her profile is too high, but I think her appearance and style would be good.

And I agree about Summer Glau.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 12, 2011, 06:48:21 AM
I think whoever one might get for Harry - the odds of finding an actor as tall as the character are
very, very slim.  Blackthorne was a one in a million shot.
So go for looks and ability but don't focus so much on height.  You can fudge that with boxes, trenches,
and camera work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 12, 2011, 02:46:30 PM
it pains me, but you have a bit of a point.  And lets be honest, the Murphy/Dresden massive height difference just isn't the sort of thing that plays well on the screen;  its too hard to frame a decent shot when they are a foot and a half apart.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mickey Finn on April 12, 2011, 03:49:11 PM
I just saw Luther.

Idris Elba. Dear god, Idris Elba for Sanya.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0252961/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDbmkmpgJT0
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 12, 2011, 04:13:24 PM
it pains me, but you have a bit of a point.  And lets be honest, the Murphy/Dresden massive height difference just isn't the sort of thing that plays well on the screen;  its too hard to frame a decent shot when they are a foot and a half apart.

You end up having to do a LOT of long shots (viewpoint is from a distance) which doesn't work when you need an intense
close up scene.  A couple of staged long shots to show the height disparity and maybe one or two from Karrins' POV
where you just see Harry's torso or duster and then most all else can be shot pretty normally.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 12, 2011, 08:39:15 PM
I just saw Luther.

Idris Elba. Dear god, Idris Elba for Sanya.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0252961/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDbmkmpgJT0

Him or Isiah Mustafa (The Man Your Man Could Smell Like). If he can do a Russian accent, it would be the greatest thing EVER.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on April 12, 2011, 08:51:49 PM
I live in a cave when it ocmes to the names of current actors ect, so I do not know her name the actress in the Dr. Pepper ads for Lara
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: LizW65 on April 12, 2011, 09:28:54 PM
Has anyone suggested Morena Baccarin yet as Lara Raith?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on April 13, 2011, 04:59:32 AM
Question about that suggestion is how "porny" would you expect the filming to be? Morena Baccarin is a great actress but if the treatment is HBO or showtime style series, I think Lara would end up played by an unknown who got nekkid every other scene. :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 13, 2011, 06:45:41 AM
While HBO would have the money and the intelligence to do the series right
unfortunately I suspect that they would most definitely focus on the White Court Vamps and any other
sex scenes.  I shudder at what kind of series they could turn the DF into.
This is about Harry and his magic not who is getting into whose pants or underwear.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 13, 2011, 01:13:32 PM
I dunno. The HBO miniseries or whatever of A Game Of Thrones looks ok, based on all the previews. I still think the best way to adapt the Dresden Files would be as animated series of some sort. A serious one, mind you. Animated by the people behind Batman the Animated Series or something. That way we wouldn't have to worry about getting actors who look like the characters, just sound like them.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 13, 2011, 04:15:10 PM
I'd buy animation but only if they're doing full scale computer animation - not
Saturday morning kiddie animation.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: LizW65 on April 13, 2011, 10:23:00 PM
I really don't think ramping up the "adult content" would be the best approach to a (hypothetical) Dresden series.  The appeal is in the characters and storytelling, and they can stand on their own without gratuitous footage of hot young people getting their freak on.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 14, 2011, 01:18:00 AM
I really don't think ramping up the "adult content" would be the best approach to a (hypothetical) Dresden series.  The appeal is in the characters and storytelling, and they can stand on their own without gratuitous footage of hot young people getting their freak on.

The Dresden fans think this way - problem is - that's NOT the way HBO would think.  Magic - good, Sex - better,
MAGICAL SEX - INSTANT RATINGS WIN!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 14, 2011, 02:12:25 AM
So we've got about 3 months before HBO starts adapting the Anita Blake series, then?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 14, 2011, 06:39:04 AM
I would not be surprised if they're looking at other magical/fantasy properties including the Anita Blake series.
Frankly they'd do better with Briggs - Mercedes Thompson series but that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 14, 2011, 04:35:56 PM
Oh, I keep forgetting to mention -- Lara is Angelina Jolie. :)

I actually like this.  She can do it with ease, methinks.

Just don't cast John Voight as Papa Raith.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: badassassin on April 14, 2011, 05:20:13 PM
what about matthew mcconaughey as thomas?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 14, 2011, 05:29:56 PM
what about matthew mcconaughey as thomas?

Thomas as surfer boy? No. ;)

Wrong coloring, anyway. Matt Bomer, baby. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on April 14, 2011, 06:43:55 PM
Quote
what about matthew mcconaughey as thomas?
This isn't bad for when we first see him but later not so much.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 14, 2011, 10:26:58 PM
What about Terrence Mann for Peabody?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: LizW65 on April 15, 2011, 12:14:49 AM
Just don't cast John Voight as Papa Raith.

Christopher Lee FTW!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 15, 2011, 01:20:54 PM
This isn't bad for when we first see him but later not so much.
Before Dark Night, I would have said the same about Heath Ledger.  Now it would be interesting.  Kinda makes me Im curious if mcconaughey could do Dark.  He's done serious pretty well before (big fan of A Time to Kill, for example)  but the monster within might be a bit of a stretch for him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 15, 2011, 01:47:20 PM
True, but we've already got the perfect Thomas-Matt Bomer.

Also, after seeing the poster for Hobo With A Shotgun, I'm even more convinced that Rutger Hauer should be Odin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 15, 2011, 01:52:35 PM
Jim HAS to be Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 15, 2011, 04:59:46 PM
Before Dark Night, I would have said the same about Heath Ledger.  Now it would be interesting.  Kinda makes me Im curious if mcconaughey could do Dark.  He's done serious pretty well before (big fan of A Time to Kill, for example)  but the monster within might be a bit of a stretch for him.

Have you seen "Frailty"?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: avengingwatcher on April 16, 2011, 04:07:18 AM
I think I'll throw my hat into the rink on my fantasy casting call

Harry-Mark Deklin
Mccoy-Baeu Bridges
Micheal - Greg Kinnear
Morgan- John Desantis
Lara- Morena Baccarin
Murphy- Alison Lohman
Thomas-Jaason Simmons
Marcone- James Caan
Nicodemus- Micheal Ironside
Merlin- Donald Sutherland
Molly- A younger version of Kristen Bell
Hendricks-John Cena
Susan-Natalie Portman or Michelle Monaghan
Kinkaid-Kurt Russell
Charity-Naomi Watts
Mauve- Lindsey Lohan
Aurora- Hayden Panetierre
Gard- Tilda Swinton
Old Anastasia- Judy Densch
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on April 16, 2011, 07:15:35 AM
Bradley Cooper as Kincaid

Jason Lee as the voice of Bob
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on April 16, 2011, 07:30:56 AM
Nathan Fillion is my preferred Harry, but I wonder if he might be a little TOO snarky for it.
James Marsters is my second choice. Having heard him in the audio books, I can't help but associate him with Harry.

Murphy: Katee Sackhoff. No contest. Tough as nails, with flashes of endearing vulnerability.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Koriandr on April 16, 2011, 01:06:21 PM
Nathan Fillion is my preferred Harry, but I wonder if he might be a little TOO snarky for it.

Too snarky? This is Harry we're talking about! The king of snark. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on April 16, 2011, 05:34:55 PM
Isn't Nathan Fillion kind of...old to play Harry? Harry was 24 or 25 with the series began.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 16, 2011, 06:01:45 PM
Isn't Nathan Fillion kind of...old to play Harry? Harry was 24 or 25 with the series began.

He's not too old for the middle of the series. He isn't thin enough, though....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on April 16, 2011, 09:16:08 PM
Thomas Hayden Church for Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 17, 2011, 02:36:37 AM
He's not too old for the middle of the series. He isn't thin enough, though....

In perfect casting he would be firefly fillion
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on April 17, 2011, 02:39:29 AM
And I keep seeing Michael C Hall (Dexter) as Kincaid. He's got that strange cool detachment going... but I don't think he's quite bulky enough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on April 18, 2011, 11:26:16 PM
Older Archive OR Young Molly: Chloe Moretz (Let Me In, Kick Ass)

She's 13 or 14 now, so she couldn't very well play the Ivy we meet in Death Masks, who was 7 or so.

Kincaid: Adam Baldwin. I retract my earlier "Dexter."  Adam Baldwin does badass best.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 19, 2011, 12:56:46 AM
Yeah, on second thought, I'm going with baldwin. Christian Kane would be good, but Adam Baldwin wins out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 19, 2011, 02:09:14 AM
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3299315456/tt0810788)

Nicodemous
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 19, 2011, 02:10:31 AM
Yeah, on second thought, I'm going with baldwin. Christian Kane would be good, but Adam Baldwin wins out.

I can definitely vote for Baldwin. He's a great badass. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 19, 2011, 02:34:36 AM
Kincaid: Adam Baldwin. I retract my earlier "Dexter."  Adam Baldwin does badass best.

yes. so much yes.

hm, seems like i have my fantasy casting for two of the characters >> Matt Bomer for Thomas and Adam Baldwin for Kincaid.

I wouldn't protest against Keanu Reeves for Martin, too. haha.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on April 19, 2011, 02:36:32 AM
Keanu Reeves as Martin...? I would have never thought of that. I like it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on April 19, 2011, 04:41:37 AM
Can we have Bernard Hill (Theoden) as Ebenezar?

I always pictured Martin as sort of an everyman. Keanu... he's too pretty boy. Maybe David Thewlis (Remus Lupin) or Guy Pearce?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 19, 2011, 05:50:43 AM
I'm still going with Jeff Bridges for Ebenezar. Because he's the Dude, man. Or El Duderino, if brevity isn't your thing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on April 19, 2011, 05:53:36 AM
Jeff Bridges could work. I just think Theoden has more authority to his presence.

And has anyone suggested Patrick Stewart for Mac?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on April 19, 2011, 09:49:49 AM
Speaking of casting (and I don't like the guy who played the new superman at all) but have you guys seen the ad for Dylan Dog?
I was watching it when I was at Apple trailer but now it's on TV. It reminds me of a rip off of Dresden files despite it being based off some graphic comic from what I read.

Just curious what anyone else thinks.
It has the guy who played Superman in Superman Returns and the werewolf guy from the US version of Being Human.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 19, 2011, 09:52:44 AM
Yeah, I saw the commercials. I thought the same thing, but I guess really it's just a reflection of all the urban fantasy going around these days....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 19, 2011, 09:54:38 AM
Jeff Bridges could work. I just think Theoden has more authority to his presence.

And has anyone suggested Patrick Stewart for Mac?

I think Theoden could make a good Merlin. Not so much Ebenezar. And IMHO Patrick Stewart is too dynamic for Mac.

That gives me an idea for Charity, though. ummmm.....what's her name.....lemme go look it up....ahh, here we go -- Miranda Otto, who played Eowyn. She's 44 now, she could be a good Charity.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 19, 2011, 04:24:39 PM
yeah, you don't give Patrick Stewart a character who talks in monosylables and grunts. And Miranda Otto might make a good Charity. I'd have to see her in other stuff first.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 19, 2011, 07:40:25 PM
I agree with Baldwin for Kincaid.  Gotta get CK in here somewhere though.

(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3299315456/tt0810788)

Nicodemous


I don't want to know who he suggested.  Rather, I will make my own suggestion.

(http://www.librarising.com/astrology/celebs/images2/A/anthonyhopkins.jpg)

What part of this does NOT scream Nicodemus?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on April 19, 2011, 07:45:50 PM
I can totally see him eating Harry's liver with some farva beans and a nice Chainti
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on April 20, 2011, 12:07:46 AM
rofl!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on April 20, 2011, 01:15:36 AM
I can totally see him eating Harry's liver with some farva beans and a nice Chainti
I think that says more about you than his acting abilities.  :-\ :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on April 20, 2011, 01:15:52 AM
Sir Anthony Hopkins could most certainly play the bejeezus out of Nicodemus.

Djimon Hounsou as Sanya. He looks badass: http://www.listal.com/person/djimon-hounsou

Pat Morita (Mr Miyagi!) as Shiro. Way too awesome NOT to cast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tarinax on April 20, 2011, 02:09:15 AM
God yes, Pat Moria as Shiro!

Could anyone see Liam Neeson as Michael?  Accent aside, I think he fits fairly well.

For Murphy, my first choice would be Clea DuVall.  She played the FBI agent who worked with Parkman in season 1 of Heroes, and she was a short haired blonde.  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0245112/

I still really like Paul Blackthorn from the series as Harry.  I thought he did a really nice job.  But I could see Nathan Fillion in the role.

Anyone consider Olivia Wilde for Elaine?  Just saw her on House again, and she does the whole blotchy eyed thing when she cries, not to mention being tall, thin, pale skin, and BTW hot beyond the telling of it.  ^^  Oh, and totally bada$$.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on April 20, 2011, 03:30:16 AM
Every time I see Clea DuVall I think of her role as the ignored-into-invisibility girl from Buffy. Doesn't scream "cop" to me. So I have to stand by Katee Sackhoff for Murph, simply because I can see Starbuck filling her wee but ass-kicking shoes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 20, 2011, 03:55:46 AM
Nicodemous

(http://www.onlocationvacations.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/burn.jpg) (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0KRN69leV-Q/S2LRRRLm_rI/AAAAAAAAIC4/Mlh8YfafaLo/s400/burn-notice-friendly-fire.jpg)

Because i don't see nic as being old
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on April 20, 2011, 01:21:15 PM
^^^see i like him as harry, if only he was like 8 inches taller
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 20, 2011, 04:51:46 PM
Nicodemous

(http://www.onlocationvacations.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/burn.jpg) (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0KRN69leV-Q/S2LRRRLm_rI/AAAAAAAAIC4/Mlh8YfafaLo/s400/burn-notice-friendly-fire.jpg)

Because i don't see nic as being old

I seem to remember that Nic was described as somewhat middle-aged, like mid thirties to early forties. He has a bit of grey hair, from what I remember.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 20, 2011, 06:45:39 PM
You see, GW, v this guy doesn't scare me.

(http://www.onlocationvacations.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/burn.jpg) (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0KRN69leV-Q/S2LRRRLm_rI/AAAAAAAAIC4/Mlh8YfafaLo/s400/burn-notice-friendly-fire.jpg)

This guy v on the other hand...

(http://www.librarising.com/astrology/celebs/images2/A/anthonyhopkins.jpg)

scares the ever-loving p*$$ out of me when he gets his horror on.  Get my meaning?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on April 20, 2011, 07:19:02 PM
Ooooooh yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 21, 2011, 12:17:59 AM
I think if you saw this guy in action you would agree with me
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cipher on April 21, 2011, 02:09:08 AM
I'm sorry, when I think "middle-aged"  I think late 40's early 50's, not 30's.  (I'm approaching 40 for goodness sake, I don't recall seeing a hill yet so I don't think I'm over it.)  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 21, 2011, 02:26:04 AM
Fair enough. Still, someone older than whoever the dude from Burn Notice is. I'd go with Timothy Dalton over Anthony Hopkins. Hopkins, while an amazing actor, is just too recognizable. Dalton, on the other hand, isn't quite as well known. Plus, I think Dalton would be more convincing with a sword than Hopkins. But to each his own.

I guess the "Perfect" person for Nicodemus would be some sort of fusion of Anthony Hopkins, Alan Rickman, and Timothy Dalton.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on April 21, 2011, 06:52:12 AM
Has anyone considered Dwayne Johnson for Sanya? He has the build, a good sense of humour, and his acting ability is not bad.

*ducks behind a wall and waits for the inevitable*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 21, 2011, 06:58:18 AM
I wouldn't mind him doing one of the parts, but to me -- and this may come out sounding racist somehow or other -- he isn't black enough for Sanya. I want an actor who really seriously and truly looks like he would never belong in Russia. The Rock is more Samoan looking than anything....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on April 21, 2011, 09:18:54 AM
I wouldn't mind him doing one of the parts, but to me -- and this may come out sounding racist somehow or other -- he isn't black enough for Sanya. I want an actor who really seriously and truly looks like he would never belong in Russia. The Rock is more Samoan looking than anything....
of course he isn't black enough , he is samoan! not of african descent. but I did think of him for Sanya.
great now I've forgotten what I was going to suggest.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on April 21, 2011, 12:46:38 PM
I thought of the Rock for Sanya too.  Then someone brought up Isaiah Mustafa.  That did it for me.
BTW, Rocky Johnson, Dwayne's dad, was a very black man.

Noryuki "Pat" Morita cannot be Shiro, as he died several years ago.  I don't know if Mako (from the Conan movies) is still alive.  If still kicking, he'd get my vote.

I could see Liam Neeson as NIcodemus.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on April 21, 2011, 12:53:45 PM
I could see Liam Neeson as NIcodemus.

I've always thought Neeson would make a perfect Marcone. Cool, confident, ruthless. Nicodemus is too menacing for Neeson. I agree with

I guess the "Perfect" person for Nicodemus would be some sort of fusion of Anthony Hopkins, Alan Rickman, and Timothy Dalton.
Alan Rickman or Timothy Dalton can do menace. As can Al Pacino. Those would be my three contenders for Nick
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on April 21, 2011, 01:09:20 PM
(http://thefilmstage.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/122853__eko_l.jpg)
Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje

or

(http://img.poptower.com/pic-40212/djimon-hounsou.jpg?d=600)
Djimon Hounsou

for sanya, i picture one of these two guys
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bujin on April 21, 2011, 02:43:01 PM


Noryuki "Pat" Morita cannot be Shiro, as he died several years ago.  I don't know if Mako (from the Conan movies) is still alive.  If still kicking, he'd get my vote.

Mako died in 2006, during the time that he was doing voice-work for Avatar.    :(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: uncanny on April 21, 2011, 04:06:16 PM
Nicodemous

(http://www.onlocationvacations.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/burn.jpg) (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0KRN69leV-Q/S2LRRRLm_rI/AAAAAAAAIC4/Mlh8YfafaLo/s400/burn-notice-friendly-fire.jpg)

Because i don't see nic as being old
Yep.. "The Man" version of Westen would have been my thought too, this was one of my more favorite "themes" the actor played on the show.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 21, 2011, 04:38:23 PM
of course he isn't black enough , he is samoan! not of african descent. but I did think of him for Sanya.
great now I've forgotten what I was going to suggest.

He's actually Samoan AND black (African-Canadian, to be PC about it), but as I said he doesn't look much black.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fulkrum78 on April 21, 2011, 10:45:18 PM
Willem Dafoe might make an interesting Marcone.  He could pull the ominous bit off quite well.
 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on April 21, 2011, 11:26:06 PM
Dafoe is menacing, yeah, but it's a 'crazy' menacing, not calculating.  Too Green Gobliny for me.

Jeremy Irons for Nic and Neeson or Clooney for Marcone works for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on April 22, 2011, 02:17:20 AM
The more I think about it, the more I want Jim to be the voice of Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cipher on April 22, 2011, 03:23:50 AM
I had this image of Frank Oz doing the voice of Bob.

"When a few thousand years you are, sex crazed you get, hmm."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tim2.0 on April 22, 2011, 01:21:13 PM
My two Cents

I see Timothy Olophant ( as in live free or die hard ) as marcone. Little older gray hair and tons of menace
Josh Duhamel as kincaid. He got that lean wiry look and can pull off bad ass.
Elisha cuthberta as Lily
Sasha alexander ( Kate from NCIS ) as elaine
I know she isnt blond but i see Robin Tunney as murphy, small fierce and tuff..
Amanda Righette as Lea tall smokin hot and red head
Eric Dane as Michael big tall could be kind and also fist of god

Just some of what i picture when i read the books. agree or disagree as you see fit ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 22, 2011, 05:22:30 PM
Leonardo Decaprio For Marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tim2.0 on April 22, 2011, 05:29:40 PM
Leo is a great actor but he has no menace to him, no cold hearted ruthlessness
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 22, 2011, 06:20:18 PM
The more I think about it, the more I want Jim to be the voice of Bob.

Agreed!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 22, 2011, 07:38:34 PM
Josh Duhamel as kincaid. He got that lean wiry look and can pull off bad ass.

You mean Danny from Las Vegas?  I dunno, he seems to me to be the solid "The Side of Good" sort.

Then again, I'm only on season 2.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: HistoryDave on April 23, 2011, 01:38:48 AM
I have always pictured Butters as a Gene Kelly sort...
(http://static.paulsmith.co.uk/images/width730/genekelly-14247.jpg)
Not so much helmet haired, of course.
 

Sorry, I have to disagree.  Gene Kelly was incredibly athletic.  I just don't see Butters as that guy.  More of a Mr. bean/ Rowan Atkinson as in Never Say Never Again.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on April 23, 2011, 03:18:47 AM
Sasha alexander ( Kate from NCIS ) as elaine
I know she isnt blond but i see Robin Tunney as murphy, small fierce and tuff...

I agree with this, especially with Robin Tunney as Murphy. I usually don't have much of an opinion as far as the cast goes, except for the following roles:

Bradley Cooper as Kincaid - I wasn't even familiar with Bradley Cooper as an actor when I started reading the books. I always picture Kincaid exactly like him.

Ewan McGreggor as Micheal Carpenter - After seeing Ewan McGreggor's performance in Angels and Demons, I'm convinced he could be Micheal "The Fist of God" Carpenter. Especially with the line from Gravel Peril "Don't yada-yada the Lord, Harry. It's disrespectful."

Summer Glau as Karrin Murphy - I think Summer Glau is a talented actress. I know from watching Firefly and Serenity that she could handle the physicality of the role. And to me her stature and cute nose all but scream "MURPHY!"


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 23, 2011, 03:51:43 AM
I agree with this, especially with Robin Tunney as Murphy. I usually don't have much of an opinion as far as the cast goes, except for the following roles:

Bradley Cooper as Kincaid - I wasn't even familiar with Bradley Cooper as an actor when I started reading the books. I always picture Kincaid exactly like him.

Ewan McGreggor as Micheal Carpenter - After seeing Ewan McGreggor's performance in Angels and Demons, I'm convinced he could be Micheal "The Fist of God" Carpenter. Especially with the line from Gravel Peril "Don't yada-yada the Lord, Harry. It's disrespectful."

Summer Glau as Karrin Murphy - I think Summer Glau is a talented actress. I know from watching Firefly and Serenity that she could handle the physicality of the role. And to me her stature and cute nose all but scream "MURPHY!"




Prepare to feel the wrath of the people Saying summer glau is good for murphy is like me saying Tom Cruise for anything
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: HistoryDave on April 23, 2011, 03:55:19 AM
I'm of the opinion Robert Downey Jr. would be a Great Harry.  Admittedly, he is too old, but only so many actors could deliver a line like "Wylie Coyote, supergenius." and pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 23, 2011, 03:59:38 AM
I'm of the opinion Robert Downey Jr. would be a Great Harry.  Admittedly, he is too old, but only so many actors could deliver a line like "Wylie Coyote, supergenius." and pull it off.

Robert Downey would be a great ANYthing.....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 23, 2011, 04:17:38 AM
I'm sorry but Robert Downey Jr. is great as Iron Man and Sherlock Holmes but NOT as Harry Dresden.
Maybe as Chandler the British Warden that Harry calls Steed but NOT Harry.
He could possibly play Butters because he can do wild eyed and crazy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: HistoryDave on April 23, 2011, 04:48:35 AM
I'm not so concerned with physical characteristics for Harry, but the acting has to be great.  Harry goes from cynical wise-cracker to towering, righteous rage in an instant.  He can be shy, insensitive, gentle (especially with children), analytical, and wildly emotional.  He has a host of emotional contradictions, this role requires a GREAT actor.  He has to be able to go from smart-ass to bad-ass in the blink of an eye.  Harry has lived a lot of life in his 30 or so years and it should be reflected in his demeanor, not many young actors can portray that.  I think Robert Downey can do all of this.  I would be interested in knowing why you don't think so.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tim2.0 on April 23, 2011, 02:01:37 PM
hmm bradley cooper could b a could kincaid but you think mcgreggor is big enough to be an ass kicking armour wearing knight ?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wiggum on April 23, 2011, 04:46:55 PM
Hey, new here, don't hurt me. Thought I'd let you guys know my perfect casting...if I knew how to embed pics on here I would for the lesser known actors, but I don't know how:( Anyway this isn't just a casting but how I actually imagine most of the chars, so i'll add to it every now and again..not that anyone cares lawl. EDIT: Figured out embedding, might add some pics. PLEASE let me know who I'm missing 'cos it's bugging the hell outta me...also lemme know what ya'll think. Also is there a limit to the images you can embed in one post?

Harry Dresden - James Franco (taller obvs) (http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/James-Franco-image.jpg)
Susan Rodriguez - Melanie Iglesias (http://pokerworks.com/article/melanie-iglesias-maxim-magazine-hometown-hottie-competition.png) (http://www1.pictures.stylebistro.com/gi/Melanie+Iglesias+Long+Hairstyles+Long+Curls+7QRTjf3G3oal.jpg)
Bob - Jason Lee (though I think he'd be an awesome Dresden too lol)
Murphy - Elizabeth Banks (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lLsdaCVk3Kk/TQMumN_Km4I/AAAAAAACBE4/HthMEZzfEeA/s1600/elizabeth-banks-blonde-hair-330x427.jpg)
Morgan - N/A (imagination)
Marcone - Chris Noth (http://www.buddytv.com/articles/Law_&_Order_Criminal_Intent/Images/chris-noth-2.jpg)
Carmichael - Newman from Seinfeld forgot his name
Mac- N/A
Leansidhe - Nicole Fox (http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=12324591)
Thomas - N/A
McCoy - N/A
Michael Carpenter - Hugh Jackman
Charity Carpenter - Sonya Kraus
Molly Carpenter - young=Taylor Momsen young adult = Blake Lively
Kincaid - Edge (WWE superstar)
Lara Raith - Megan Fox
Mab - Allesandra Ambrosio
The Merlin Langtry - Christopher Lee
Nicodemus - George Clooney
Anastasia Luccio old - N/A
Anastasia Luccio young - Sarah Shahi
Gard -
Butters - Simon Bird / or Leonard from Big Bang Theory
Ramirez - N/A but I'm sure who I imagine him as is real person ffs / Eddie Cibrian<young maybe
Elaine Mallory - Olivia Wilde
Sanya - Djimon Hounsou
Maeve - Jesse Jane (yes the pr0n star)
Billy - N/A
Georgia - N/A
Lasciel/Lash - Candace Swanpole (sp?)
Injun Joe - N/A
The Gatekeeper Rashid : Older version of Oded Fehr
The Faerie Mothers - N/A Just some old ass ladies
Rawlins Or is it Stallings? - Philip Banks from Fresh Prince
Madeline Raith - Monica Belluci (but I use her for alot of dif chars)
Lily - Candace Swanpole with Green Hair or w/e colour it is again
Fix - N/A
The Archive/Ivy - Ramona Marquez
Martha Liberty - The original Vivienne from Fresh Prince
Mortimer Lindquist - Danny Devito
Uriel - Morgan Freeman
Bianca - Forgot her name for now, will add later



Loads more coming, will update:
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wiggum on April 23, 2011, 05:39:19 PM
kind of quoted the last thing and couldnt delete it
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on April 24, 2011, 12:33:41 AM
Thomas Hayden Church as Michael?  He was pretty buff as the Sandman in Spidey III.  HE is a good actor and about the right age.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 24, 2011, 03:00:45 AM
Damien Lewis from Band of Brothers for Hendricks.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 24, 2011, 04:37:05 AM
Damien Lewis from Band of Brothers for Hendricks.



I love Damien Lewis -- but he isn't massive enough for Hendricks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on April 24, 2011, 04:51:29 AM
I'm not so concerned with physical characteristics for Harry, but the acting has to be great.  Harry goes from cynical wise-cracker to towering, righteous rage in an instant.  He can be shy, insensitive, gentle (especially with children), analytical, and wildly emotional.  He has a host of emotional contradictions, this role requires a GREAT actor.  He has to be able to go from smart-ass to bad-ass in the blink of an eye.  Harry has lived a lot of life in his 30 or so years and it should be reflected in his demeanor, not many young actors can portray that.  I think Robert Downey can do all of this.  I would be interested in knowing why you don't think so.


I cannot tell you how much I agree with this statement. Except for the Robert Downey thing. Everything I've seen him in for the last ten years or so he seems to be playing essentially the same character. Besides, he's too old. He's almost too old to play Tony Stark.

hmm bradley cooper could b a could kincaid but you think mcgreggor is big enough to be an ass kicking armour wearing knight ?


In relation to the other post I also quoted, in regards to the actor playing Michael, I am less worried bout his physical appearance than I am about the actor pulling off the true character of Michael Carpenter.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tim2.0 on April 24, 2011, 01:33:16 PM
yes but part of the essence of micheals character is when the times comes to smite gods enemies, micheal wades in to impose god will
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 25, 2011, 01:18:28 AM
I love Damien Lewis -- but he isn't massive enough for Hendricks.

Like Harry's height this is something that may have to be put on the back burner.
Acting ability, some of the look and most definitely the attitude have to take center stage.

But in that case - ooh, just had a great idea.  Damien Lewis for Tilly.  He can do odd so very well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on April 25, 2011, 01:22:45 AM
yes but part of the essence of micheals character is when the times comes to smite gods enemies, micheal wades in to impose god will

An approximated quote from Harry Dresden "The reason I like Micheal has nothing to do with holy swords and the smiting of evil."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cipher on April 25, 2011, 01:57:22 AM
How about Russell Means for Injun Joe and Omar Shariff for Rashid?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vulcanisik on April 25, 2011, 03:04:54 AM
I think it's funny that Neil Flynn was on the list, but looking at everyone on there, Joe Flanigan would be perfect.

Nathan Fillion got a lot of votes but... I love the guy, but still... I just identify him too much with Firefly heh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 25, 2011, 04:54:44 AM
I think it's funny that Neil Flynn was on the list, but looking at everyone on there, Joe Flanigan would be perfect.

Nathan Fillion got a lot of votes but... I love the guy, but still... I just identify him too much with Firefly heh.

*whisper* Firefly is dead dun dun dun dun
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on April 25, 2011, 05:04:34 AM
Not just dead. Murdered. By Fox.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: itari on April 25, 2011, 10:23:59 PM
I think it's funny that Neil Flynn was on the list, but looking at everyone on there, Joe Flanigan would be perfect.

Yeah, he looks really close to my mental image of Harry.

And I always see Emilie Autumn when I read about Maeve ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on April 26, 2011, 02:55:43 AM
Not just dead. Murdered. By Fox.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 26, 2011, 04:46:32 PM
Summer Glau as Karrin Murphy - I think Summer Glau is a talented actress. I know from watching Firefly and Serenity that she could handle the physicality of the role. And to me her stature and cute nose all but scream "MURPHY!"

Many people will cuss you out for this, I agree with you.  Not a Murphy, but I like her as Luccio 2.0.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on April 26, 2011, 05:17:55 PM
I loved Summer in Serenity, she was awesome...but not as murphy.. Luccio would be better like WJM said, plus she can do the action scenes for herself. 

That said..is there really a perfect Murphy out there?  I dont feel like theres any actress who can pull off the action-ness of Murphy, and the look....maybe the girl from sucker punch in like 15 years?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on April 26, 2011, 05:31:28 PM
Actually....what about Sienna Miller?  She played the Baroness in GI Joe and wasnt half bad, plus shes a natural-ish blonde i guess....I like it!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on April 26, 2011, 05:52:25 PM
I hold by my nomination of Kara "Starbuck" Thrace from BSG for Murphy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on April 26, 2011, 05:56:07 PM
Had to look her up!  I like it!  Too tall i think, but so is everyone else i could think of. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on April 26, 2011, 09:01:17 PM
Hmm, yeah, she's listed as 5'6.  Still, with the right shooting and a tall enough Dresden, it would be hard to notice. She's certainly on the short end for Hollywood.

*ahem* And if all else fails, I'm a 5'2 petite blond who is willing to kick ass.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: [ISI]William_9292 on April 27, 2011, 04:47:20 AM
No, I would go with Jewel Staite as Murphy...
(http://firefly.scifi.hu/layout/news/jewel_staite_atlantis_season_5_s.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 27, 2011, 06:37:58 AM
mm...too innocent
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 27, 2011, 09:11:48 AM
For Murphy, I haven't really seen anyone who I think could play her convincingly. But from various pictures and clips I've seen on the internet, I have a few ideas. I just haven't seen any of them in tv shows or movies, so I can't judge the acting talent.
-Taylor Schilling. I haven't seen her act, but do a Google image search. She just looks like Murphy. I can't think of any concrete reason.
-Kristen Bell. She's 5'1'' and blond, and from what i've heard, she's a decent actress. Has anyone here seen Veronica Mars, because I'd like some outside verification on this.
-Katee Sackhoff.  She's already been suggested, but I think she might be able to do the role. Only seen a few clips of her on Battlestar, but she was decent in that.

Also, I nominate Hellen Mirren to play one of the Mothers. No reason, other than Hellen Mirren being awesome, and having a body that is way too good for someone her age. Hell, she could probably play Mab, if some CGI were used to make her look somewhat inhuman and ethereal. Only problem is that there's no opportunity for Mab to use a machine gun. And if RED taught me anything, it's that Hellen Mirren with a Machine Gun can make everything better.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on April 27, 2011, 03:17:49 PM
Never seen Veronica Mars, but I did see Kristen Bell on Heroes and she was pretty great. She's too young and spunky to be Murphy - but she could play a great Maeve. She does sexy innocent psychopath very well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on April 27, 2011, 04:10:57 PM
Never seen Veronica Mars, but I did see Kristen Bell on Heroes and she was pretty great. She's too young and spunky to be Murphy - but she could play a great Maeve. She does sexy innocent psychopath very well.

Hadn't thought of that, but I can sort of see what you mean. I guess this weekend I'll have to actually watch stuff that all the actors on my fantasy cast list are in.

And does anyone think that George Takei might make a good Shiro? He's kinda old, but he's definitely a badass. And he has an awesome voice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on April 27, 2011, 04:38:45 PM
And does anyone think that George Takei might make a good Shiro? He's kinda old, but he's definitely a badass. And he has an awesome voice.
And he can actually fence, so he could do sword play stuff.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Contrarius on April 27, 2011, 05:03:44 PM
And he can actually fence, so he could do sword play stuff.

He's still looking pretty good, so if he can still move I don't see why he shouldn't do the part. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on April 27, 2011, 07:31:34 PM
George Takei would be pretty awesome for Shiro. IIRC, Shiro is actually a pretty old guy when he shows up in the DF. Plus, he's got the accent and the "I'm both wise- and bad-ass" vibe going.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jwright3 on April 28, 2011, 02:41:47 AM

These are people I see in these roles

Nicodemus - Anthony Hopkins or Robert Downy Jr. (visualize)
Harry - Peter Cambor, lose some of the weight in his face, leaner.
Morgaon - Stellen Skarsgard (see him in King Arthur - Implacable.)
Merlin - Donald Sutherland
Gard - Jeri Ryan
Marcone - Scott Glenn or Peter Noth (kinda beefy, tho)
Leanne Sidhe - Christina Hendricks
Mab - Uma Thurman
Butters - Michael Jeter - I so can see him screaming "Polka will never die"
Maeve - Megan Fox - dat gurl got some serious crazy in her eyes.
Rashid - Morgan Freeman (I mean, he is tall, and has that voice)
Kincaid - Denis Leary.. not really big enough, but he does have the attitude
Mac - for some strange twisted reason, G. Gordon Liddy comes to mind.
Lash - Drew Barrymore
Luccio 2.0 Olivia Wilde
McCoy - Tommy Lee Jones



Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on April 28, 2011, 04:43:03 AM
These are people I see in these roles

Nicodemus - Anthony Hopkins or Robert Downy Jr. (visualize)
Harry - Peter Cambor, lose some of the weight in his face, leaner.
Morgaon - Stellen Skarsgard (see him in King Arthur - Implacable.)
Merlin - Donald Sutherland
Gard - Jeri Ryan
Marcone - Scott Glenn or Peter Noth (kinda beefy, tho)
Leanne Sidhe - Christina Hendricks
Mab - Uma Thurman
Butters - Michael Jeter - I so can see him screaming "Polka will never die"
Maeve - Megan Fox - dat gurl got some serious crazy in her eyes.
Rashid - Morgan Freeman (I mean, he is tall, and has that voice)
Kincaid - Denis Leary.. not really big enough, but he does have the attitude
Mac - for some strange twisted reason, G. Gordon Liddy comes to mind.
Lash - Drew Barrymore
Luccio 2.0 Olivia Wilde
McCoy - Tommy Lee Jones





Jeri Ryan as Gard? You are a nerd after my own heart.

Also love your picks for Merlin and Lea. Drew Barry more could work for Lash but I worry she's too well known - when I'm watching Lash, I don't want to be thinking about how Drew's grown since ET, y'know?

What do you think of Alexander Skarsgard for Kincaid? Bad-ass, blond, extremely hunky and capable of kicking butt.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 28, 2011, 04:46:15 PM
I hate to say it but I believe that Michael Jeeter has passed away.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cipher on April 29, 2011, 12:13:16 AM
I hate to say it but I believe that Michael Jeeter has passed away.


He did in 2003.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: itari on April 29, 2011, 10:51:21 AM
Guys, what about Ian Whyte for Harry? He has the look:
click me[/quote]

Although there is a height issue. Ian is... too tall, being 7'1" (216 cm) :D (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1613839/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jwright3 on April 30, 2011, 05:56:20 PM
Jeri Ryan as Gard? You are a nerd after my own heart.

Also love your picks for Merlin and Lea. Drew Barry more could work for Lash but I worry she's too well known - when I'm watching Lash, I don't want to be thinking about how Drew's grown since ET, y'know?

What do you think of Alexander Skarsgard for Kincaid? Bad-ass, blond, extremely hunky and capable of kicking butt.

I don't know Alexander Skarsgard (I am too cheap to pay for satellite TV) so I will take your word for ot.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 01, 2011, 04:01:03 AM
Ok, so after seeing the 2 newest episodes of Doctor Who, I'm rethinking my casting choice for Nicodemus. As much as I like Timothy Dalton...Mark Sheppard just OWNS EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 01, 2011, 05:59:47 AM
See the problem is I can see Mark Sheppard playing several roles, I can see him playing Justin in flashbacks or Uriel (aka Jake) during 2 times he talks to dresden or a few other miner things. While I do think he would make a good Nicodemus I am just sure he is my first choice. While he can do creepy he does not have a strong enough presence in my mind. Again dont get me wrong I loved him in Firefly then when he showed up on BSG I freaked out as his character on that show was just perfect for him, but I just dont see it.

I saw a few people say Alan Rickman for Morgan and a few hinted at him for Nic but I think he would be great that or Hugo Weaving or even David Thewlis though I know some have suggested him for other roles. I just see Nic being played by someone with a powerful voice. Now that I think about David Thewlis, Gary Oldman comes to mind.... see all of these are powerful actors and they could all play this role or others in the film... this is hard.

Thinking off hand I just found a perfect Martin, Michael Bowman. For those that do not remember him
(http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2000_Me__Myself___Irene/000MMI_Michael_Bowman_002.jpg)

or maybe Anthony Rapp
(http://cbsminnesota.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/anthony_rapp.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on May 01, 2011, 06:24:48 AM
Michael Bowman could be a pretty good fit for Michael. I always pictured him being just a little bit older, though...

I'm still racking my brain trying to think of a good actress to play Molly. She's, what, 10 when we first meet her in the series? There aren't that many child actresses I can see portraying her at that age, though I have several picks for mid-series late-teens Molly.

-Chloe Mertz - Mentioned her before, from Kickass and Let Me In. She might still be able to pass for 10, but she'd be perfect for mid-series Molly, first starting her punk rebellion phase and of course would grow in to a great could-be-warlock Molly, too.

Saoirse Ronan - a really great young actress. She was the lead in Lovely Bones and absolutely blew me away.

- AnnaSophia Robb - was in Bridge to Terabithia and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory as Violet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 01, 2011, 05:29:01 PM
See the problem is I can see Mark Sheppard playing several roles, I can see him playing Justin in flashbacks or Uriel (aka Jake) during 2 times he talks to dresden or a few other miner things. While I do think he would make a good Nicodemus I am just sure he is my first choice. While he can do creepy he does not have a strong enough presence in my mind. Again dont get me wrong I loved him in Firefly then when he showed up on BSG I freaked out as his character on that show was just perfect for him, but I just dont see it.

I saw a few people say Alan Rickman for Morgan and a few hinted at him for Nic but I think he would be great that or Hugo Weaving or even David Thewlis though I know some have suggested him for other roles. I just see Nic being played by someone with a powerful voice. Now that I think about David Thewlis, Gary Oldman comes to mind.... see all of these are powerful actors and they could all play this role or others in the film... this is hard.

Thinking off hand I just found a perfect Martin, Michael Bowman. For those that do not remember him
(http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2000_Me__Myself___Irene/000MMI_Michael_Bowman_002.jpg)

or maybe Anthony Rapp
(http://cbsminnesota.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/anthony_rapp.jpg)

Hmmm, I kind of like Anthony Rapp for Martin. Let's go with him. And I'm still kinda stuck between Mark Sheppard and Timothy Dalton for Nicodemus.


How many times do I need to say it? Clancy Brown IS Morgan.
(http://www.lost.web.tr/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/kelvin.jpg)

One thing about Morgan is that his voice CANNOT be smooth in any way. I just don't think it would work. His voice needs to be rough and gravely. Thus, Clancy Brown.


Let me try casting Turn Coat, because why not.
Harry=Paul Blackthorne (I think he did a good job in the show, and he's pretty tall.)
Morgan=Clancy Brown
Butters=Steve Buscemi
Thomas=Matt Bomer
Murphy=Taylor Schilling
Billy=???
Georgia=???
Kirby=???
Andi=???
Molly=???
Bob=Jim Butcher
Binder=Brendan Gleeson
Madeline Raith=Paris Hilton (She was actually pretty good in Repo! The Genetic Opera.)
Luccio=Olivia Wilde or Summer Glau
Ebenezar=Jeff Bridges
Merlin=Terrence Stamp
Peabody=Terrence Mann
Listens To Wind=Wes Studi
Warden Chandler=???
Lara Raith=Eliza Dushku
The Skinwalker (Voice)=Gabriel Woolf
Vince Graver=???
Ancient Mai=???
The Gatekeeper=???

Anyone want to help fill in the blanks?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 01, 2011, 11:56:14 PM
Oded Fahr for the Gatekeeper aka The Tattooed Desert Dude from The Mummy. ;D
Not Steve Buscemi for Butters - he'd be better as Cassius the Denarian Mouse takes down.
Sharlto Copely for Butters.  (I know I'm not spelling that right.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 02, 2011, 12:17:23 AM
Yeah, I was thinking of Oded Fahr for the Gatekeeper, but I wasn't sure. But I can't think of any other middle-eastern actors.

And I can't really picture Buscemi as Cassius. Maybe it's just 'cause James Marsters' voice for Butters in the audiobooks sounds a lot like Buscemi, but he's just who I picture.

Now to cast Changes
Harry=Paul Blackthorne
Susan=Cote De Pablo
Martin=Anthony Rapp, I guess.
Murphy=Taylor Schilling
Molly=???
Butters=Steve Buscemi
Thomas=Matt Bomer
Bob=Jim Butcher
Luccio=Olivia Wilde or Summer Glau
Ebenezar=Jeff Bridges
Merlin=Terrence Stamp
Listens To Wind=Wes Studi
Warden Chandler=???
Ramirez=???
Arianna=???
Lea=Julianne Moore
Tilly=Jonathan LaPaglia
Rudolph=???
Father Forthill=Anthony Stewart Head
Kincaid=Adam Baldwin
Marcone=Mark Harmon
Gard=Uma Thurman
Hendricks=???
Odin=Rutger Hauer
Esteban=???
Esmerelda=???
Sanya=Isaiah Mustafa
Uriel=???
Mab=???
Erlking=His face should be modeled after Tom Waits, but Keith David would do the voice.
Mouse (Voice)=???
The Red King=Danny Trejo. Yes, I know he doesn't fit the description, but he's a badass and so I'm casting him.

Did I leave out any characters?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on May 02, 2011, 03:33:06 AM
or maybe Anthony Rapp
(http://cbsminnesota.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/anthony_rapp.jpg)

Oh...my...God. Anthony Rapp IS Marvin something-or-other.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 02, 2011, 10:04:52 AM
How about Tom Felton for Rudolph?
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000487373/polls_tom_felton_20090203_489696_3414_895748_answer_3_xlarge.jpeg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on May 02, 2011, 03:10:29 PM
How about Tom Felton for Rudolph?
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000487373/polls_tom_felton_20090203_489696_3414_895748_answer_3_xlarge.jpeg)

Oooooh, good pick. I already have a visceral "Ugh, what a brown-nosing weasel" reaction to him thanks to his role as Draco. ... Actually, I kinda feel bad for the kid!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 02, 2011, 03:38:07 PM
Yep, he's stuck in that kind of role.  And I don't think that even getting it on with a horse will remove that typecast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on May 02, 2011, 04:01:17 PM
You forgot Michael.  Again, I see Thomas Hayden Church for him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 02, 2011, 05:03:56 PM
You forgot Michael.  Again, I see Thomas Hayden Church for him.

Where? I'm pretty sure he doesn't show up in Changes or Turn Coat. Hadn't thought of Thomas Hayden Church for Michael, but now that you mention it, he could work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 02, 2011, 05:09:19 PM
I don't think Thomas Hayden Church is exactly right for Michael.
He has the build and all - it's the look.  Michael has to inspire trust almost immediately, I
don't think Church does that.  Sorry, just my opinion.

The kid who plays Draco would be good for something - not so sure about Rudolph - he looks
somewhat too decisive for Rudolph.  I see Rudy as having a weak, sneaky look to him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: contraducktory on May 02, 2011, 05:22:07 PM
I could see Alexis Denisof as Harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 02, 2011, 05:23:12 PM
I believe that JB suggested/wanted that at some point.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on May 02, 2011, 06:59:13 PM
I could see Alexis Denisof as Harry

I would have agreed with that about ten years ago. I especially enjoyed his performance in the later years of Angel. I think he'd a bit old for the role now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 02, 2011, 11:41:28 PM
Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Michael? He has a good fatherly presence.
(http://bestof.provocateuse.com/images/photos/jeffrey_dean_morgan_98.jpg)

and how is Tom Felton weasel enough? Have you not seen the Harry Potter movies? He even gets turned INTO a weasel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: RobJN on May 03, 2011, 12:57:06 AM
And I don't think that even getting it on with a horse will remove that typecast.
You read that fanfic too?? :o


... what? :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on May 03, 2011, 01:06:12 AM
Yep, he's stuck in that kind of role.  And I don't think that even getting it on with a horse will remove that typecast.
I think you're confusing Tom Felton with Daniel Radcliffe.  Dan was the one who played Equus on Broadway.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 03, 2011, 01:21:35 AM
Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Michael? He has a good fatherly presence.

Right! Yeah, I completely forgot about him. Thank you for reminding me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 03, 2011, 01:54:37 AM
I think you're confusing Tom Felton with Daniel Radcliffe.  Dan was the one who played Equus on Broadway.

I know that.  It took the full monte with a horse to break Radcliff of the "Harry Potter" typecast.  I don't think Felton can break the "brown-nose weasle" typecast, even if he has his own nude-with-a-horse moment.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 03, 2011, 02:13:56 AM
Some possible Mollys I found, I just cant narrow them down enough. I think I am leaning toward AnnaSophia.

Rachel Hurdwood
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_1OPb0dCFypI/SnlyGrNosxI/AAAAAAAALwQ/4rEB_GbuNvs/Rachel%20Hurd%20Wood%20Tim%20Jenkins%20shoot%20(8).jpg)

Emma Roberts
(http://photo.sing365.com/music/Image.nsf/Emma-Roberts-image/E0F635C302A5FA734825708B0011CD6A/$file/Emma+Roberts-7.jpg)

Nicola Peltz
(http://cdn.blogs.sheknows.com/celebsalon.sheknows.com//2010/07/nicola-peltz-hair.jpg)

Emma Stone
(http://clv-bimg.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/emma-stone-hot.jpg)

AnnaSophia Robb
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ho35C33uCn4/TbC2ng3sRdI/AAAAAAAAABo/UAWB5nas35E/s1600/AnnaSophia_Robb_0013.jpg)

Emily Browning
(http://www.celebszz.com/24456-2/emily-browning-05.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fulkrum78 on May 03, 2011, 03:31:35 AM
A thought for Marcone (though his eyes don't match the book) - Patrick St. Esprit (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0820520/)>  Good actor, good fit for menace, temperament, and physically fit enough to pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 03, 2011, 04:59:15 AM
Well eyes can be fixed with contacts, its not that uncommon (Edward James Olmos decided to wear blue contacts so his eyes would look like Jamie Bambers in Battlestar). I think Patrick would be a better Rawlins I mean look at him. Plus I agree with Mark Harmon... with Christoph Waltz or Viggo Mortensen tied for second
(http://images.movieplayer.it/2008/10/06/patrick-st-esprit-nel-ruolo-dello-sceriffo-dobson-nell-episodio-the-angel-maker-di-criminal-minds-91487.jpg)


I have been trying to think of a Ramirez what about this guy?

Diego Luna
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/original700/diego-luna-2008-10-28-23-3-30.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 03, 2011, 10:34:46 PM
Jim Sturgess for Warden Chandler
(http://images.hitfix.com/photos/39856/JimSturgess_article_story_main.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jwright3 on May 05, 2011, 01:03:11 AM
forgot about Rutger Hauer.... he could pull of Nicodemus.




Yeah, I was thinking of Oded Fahr for the Gatekeeper, but I wasn't sure. But I can't think of any other middle-eastern actors.

And I can't really picture Buscemi as Cassius. Maybe it's just 'cause James Marsters' voice for Butters in the audiobooks sounds a lot like Buscemi, but he's just who I picture.

Now to cast Changes
Harry=Paul Blackthorne
Susan=Cote De Pablo
Martin=Anthony Rapp, I guess.
Murphy=Taylor Schilling
Molly=???
Butters=Steve Buscemi
Thomas=Matt Bomer
Bob=Jim Butcher
Luccio=Olivia Wilde or Summer Glau
Ebenezar=Jeff Bridges
Merlin=Terrence Stamp
Listens To Wind=Wes Studi
Warden Chandler=???
Ramirez=???
Arianna=???
Lea=Julianne Moore
Tilly=Jonathan LaPaglia
Rudolph=???
Father Forthill=Anthony Stewart Head
Kincaid=Adam Baldwin
Marcone=Mark Harmon
Gard=Uma Thurman
Hendricks=???
Odin=Rutger Hauer
Esteban=???
Esmerelda=???
Sanya=Isaiah Mustafa
Uriel=???
Mab=???
Erlking=His face should be modeled after Tom Waits, but Keith David would do the voice.
Mouse (Voice)=???
The Red King=Danny Trejo. Yes, I know he doesn't fit the description, but he's a badass and so I'm casting him.

Did I leave out any characters?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on May 05, 2011, 01:58:32 AM
 :-\ I'm either gonna get cheered or jeered for this...

Sarah michelle Gellar for Murphy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on May 05, 2011, 02:25:56 AM
I'd rather see Renee Russo as Murphy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 05, 2011, 06:24:41 AM
Sorry...neither in my opinion.
Renee Russo might make a good Lea however.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 05, 2011, 06:48:08 AM
Now I liked a few idea's tossed around for Murphy, I have been trying to think of a shortish actresses who with a cute face that looks like a favorite aunt..... not too hard to find right? lol
I really liked the idea for Katee Sackhoff but I think she might be a little tall depending on how tall Dresden is or how much effort they would be willing to put into maker her shorter if any at all. Not sure if these names have been listed yet but just thought I would through them in. Kate Beckinsale, Kristen Bell and Elisha Cuthbert. Now Kate has done 'Underworld' but the other 2 are more known for comedy rolls, but they could pull off a good Murphy I think.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: badassassin on May 05, 2011, 04:58:32 PM
Jim Sturgess for Warden Chandler
(http://images.hitfix.com/photos/39856/JimSturgess_article_story_main.jpg)
i prefer joseph gordon levitt, but i can see this
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 05, 2011, 05:02:10 PM
Though I still favor Sharlto Copley for it - Sturgis would make a good Butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 06, 2011, 03:36:30 AM
This would have been my 'dream team' a few years ago.  I think 5 or so years ago, everyone's ages would have fit.

Harry Dresden - Eric Balfour (talk, dark, gloomy, seems to have a sense of humor, but can look dangerous)
Karin Murphy - Sienna Miller (tiny, but FIERCE!  well, tiny, but maybe too hot)
Bob - James Marsters (and why not? doesn't he deserve it?)
Thomas Raith - Justin Hartley  ( i think there is similar bone structure in the face between Eric & Justin, but Justin may be taller)
Michael Carpenter - Christopher Judge (so sue me, when I think of Michael, I think of Judge being patient, calm, and confident in faith)
Mab - Tricia Helfer (I picture her walking down the hall in a suit with Eric watching her leave... fine looking suit. hot but cruel? yes.)
Susan - Tamara Feldman (oh come on, it's not like anyone likes Susan, so why would they like the casting?)
Charity & Molly - really, they just need to be tall hot models, so take your pick.  But Molly has to look good in goth, too.
Ebenezer McCoy - Wilford Brimley (search your feelings, you know it to be true.)
Leah - Famke Janssen (redhead, hot, can be calm and cool, and then completely off her rocker?)
Donald Morgan - maybe Adam Baldwin (i think he could pull off grizzled vet, but maybe not old enough)
The White Council - Any number of Brits (like it really matters)
The Black Council - Any of the ringwraiths (well what else did you expect?)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on May 06, 2011, 04:16:27 AM

Harry Dresden - Eric Balfour (talk, dark, gloomy, seems to have a sense of humor, but can look dangerous)
This has me very intrigued. I haven't seen him in anything, though.

Leah - Famke Janssen (redhead, hot, can be calm and cool, and then completely off her rocker?)
YES!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 06, 2011, 04:25:39 AM
This has me very intrigued. I haven't seen him in anything, though.

This is from Haven on SyFy.  He's the guy on the right in the coat.  The other guy on the left has also been mentioned for Dresden, but it's also been said that his eyes are too soft.  And while I get the nice-guy feel for the one, Balfour gives me the nice-guy-that-looks-rough vibe.
(http://images.starpulse.com/news/bloggers/643456/blog_images/nathan-lucas-bryant-and-duke-eric-balfour-may-not-get-along-but-they-do-pose-together.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 06, 2011, 04:29:54 AM
If anyone needed to be convinced that Rutger Hauer should be Odin, here's a picture that pretty much proves it. Just photoshop an eyepatch and a scar on him, and we've got our Vaderrung.
(http://www.zapster.it/multimedia/2700/2645/big/Rutger_Hauer_Barbarossa---58.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 06, 2011, 05:35:58 PM
Hayden Penitiere for Murphy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on May 06, 2011, 05:43:04 PM
Hayden Penitiere for Murphy

Dear god no!  Ha.  I couldn't stand her in Heroes, plus i don't think she's nearly tough enough
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 06, 2011, 07:21:34 PM
GW, what is with your constand bogus suggestions?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 06, 2011, 10:42:52 PM
After seeing her in scream 4 i think she could do it
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on May 06, 2011, 11:35:16 PM
After seeing her in scream 4 i think she could do it


You just admitted to seeing Scream 4. Your argument is invalid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 06, 2011, 11:41:01 PM
Do not diss it it was hilarious you just dont like scary movies so you are invalid


(In response to what i said i am not throwing around insults merely saying this movie was amazing)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on May 06, 2011, 11:46:02 PM
If anyone needed to be convinced that Rutger Hauer should be Odin, here's a picture that pretty much proves it. Just photoshop an eyepatch and a scar on him, and we've got our Vaderrung.
(http://www.zapster.it/multimedia/2700/2645/big/Rutger_Hauer_Barbarossa---58.jpg)


Yup, that's Odin, alright.

I originally suggested Wilford Brimly for Eb, but after someone suggested Jeff Bridges...well, that plus seeing him in Ironman.  Frankly, Bridges is a better fit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 07, 2011, 12:14:31 AM
Wilford Brimley does NOT exude bad ass which is what I've always seen Eb as doing.
Rutger Hauer or Tommy Lee Jones now they exude bad ass.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cipher on May 07, 2011, 01:39:20 AM
I don't know, I though Anthony Hopkins was Odin.  or would that be typecasting.

(http://www.empireonline.com/images/uploaded/anthony-hopkins-odin.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 07, 2011, 06:00:15 AM
lol, I dont think so.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tim2.0 on May 07, 2011, 03:40:30 PM
haden isnt a bad actress that was the writing of heroes that was terrible... but she is way to young to be murphy she would make a better molly then murphy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on May 07, 2011, 10:55:10 PM
Noah Wyle as Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on May 08, 2011, 01:06:50 AM
Noah Wyle as Harry.
Hmmm, have to give this some thought.  I can sort of see it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 08, 2011, 02:01:32 AM
Noah Wyle as Harry.

Um I like Noah Wyle but I don't think he's Harry or Thomas. JMO
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on May 08, 2011, 02:28:47 AM
Hayden Panettiere could play a good Aurora. She seems all sweet an innocent, but can then be absolutely batshit insane. And she would work well opposite Kristen Bell, who I still hold would be a near-perfect Maeve.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on May 08, 2011, 03:39:29 PM
Well eyes can be fixed with contacts, its not that uncommon (Edward James Olmos decided to wear blue contacts so his eyes would look like Jamie Bambers in Battlestar). I think Patrick would be a better Rawlins I mean look at him. Plus I agree with Mark Harmon... with Christoph Waltz or Viggo Mortensen tied for second

You know Rawlins is black, right? :D



(http://www.jamesindigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/john-hamm-conan1.jpg)

John Hamm for Marcone?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vash the white on May 08, 2011, 04:06:43 PM
You know Rawlins is black, right? :D
Lol!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 08, 2011, 05:38:44 PM
I don't know, I though Anthony Hopkins was Odin.  or would that be typecasting.

no NO NO!

Hopkins is Nic!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on May 08, 2011, 05:56:28 PM
You know Rawlins is black, right? :D



(http://www.jamesindigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/john-hamm-conan1.jpg)

John Hamm for Marcone?
oh , yes please.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 08, 2011, 09:32:48 PM
Was just watching Eureka and I think the black guy - I think Ed Morton is his name, not sure, would make
a great Uriel/Jake.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on May 09, 2011, 12:18:54 AM
Was just watching Eureka and I think the black guy - I think Ed Morton is his name, not sure, would make
a great Uriel/Jake.
Joe Morton, most famous for inventing and then subsequently blowing up Skynet... 


I could see it
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 09, 2011, 02:44:22 AM
You know Rawlins is black, right? :D

What I get for not double checking with my book, I knew Stallings was black but I completely forgot Rawlings was as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on May 09, 2011, 04:02:30 AM
Noah Wyle as Harry.

YES.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 09, 2011, 05:43:49 PM
YES.

No. Have you seen those librarian movies.  No.  Just no.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 09, 2011, 05:48:45 PM
No. Have you seen those librarian movies.  No.  Just no.

Is this a good thing or a bad thing?  Because I liked the Librarian Movies (especially the third, gotta love Stana Katic), and I actually agree with your "No."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 09, 2011, 07:42:00 PM
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?  Because I liked the Librarian Movies (especially the third, gotta love Stana Katic), and I actually agree with your "No."

I enjoyed the first two Librarian movies, and the only thing worth mentioning in the 3rd was Stana Katic (great on Castle), but I thought Noah Wyle was the low-point of all 3 movies.  I understand that his character was supposed to be awkward, and maybe he just played it the way he was supposed to, but I never bought his cheesiness, it always seemed forced.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on May 10, 2011, 01:03:36 AM
I could see John Hamm as Marcone.  But Liam Neeson is Nicodemus in my book.  Hopkins is too old.  Nic stopped aging, more or less, when he took up the coin. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 10, 2011, 01:59:43 AM
*Cough* Burn Notice lead for Nicodemous because he would be  better as a younger person *cough*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on May 10, 2011, 02:11:47 AM
i could definately see him (Jeffrey Donovan) with a shadow that could eat your soul, but then first thing I saw him as was the psychopathic evil Pretender back in the day, which lends itself nicely
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 10, 2011, 02:16:20 AM
i could definately see him (Jeffrey Donovan) with a shadow that could eat your soul, but then first thing I saw him as was the psychopathic evil Pretender back in the day, which lends itself nicely


Thank you someone who actually likes an idea of mine.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 10, 2011, 02:47:05 AM
Who do we have for Kincaid again? I think the best one I saw was Adam Baldwin who physicaly fits the roll more but as good a villain Jeffrey Donovan could do I still still him in a badass with a heart roll.
And dident we sorta agree Hopkins would make a sweet Odin?
Speaking of Burn Notice I think we have to find a roll for Bruce Campbell. Father Forthill? Last mention of him was Anthony Stewart Head or Mark Sheppard. Now Anthony... if you have seen 'Repo! The Genetic Opera' how could you not see him as Nic? Oooo just had an idea for Sheppard, Binder.. ooo he would be perfect for that snarky roll. *basing this on attitude, dont have my book to double check his appearance.*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 10, 2011, 02:49:43 AM
Bruce Cambell as Erlking
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on May 10, 2011, 02:52:40 AM
No. Have you seen those librarian movies.  No.  Just no.

lol, nope. I was kinda just basing it on childhood runs of E.R. heh.

still no perfect dresden and murphy. Need to look more.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 10, 2011, 03:03:57 AM
Bruce Cambell as Erlking

I am sure to hear something for this but.... I really like Stallone for Erlking.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 10, 2011, 03:17:52 AM
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 10, 2011, 06:29:44 AM
Now you know how we feel GW.

No, I'm sorry Bruce Campbell is NOT the Erlking.
You need someone who can bring a LOT of menace to the role - not Campbell - sorry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on May 10, 2011, 09:15:24 AM
A super tall, lanky uknown actor for Harry please.

Quite frankly I would like to have not heard of anyone in a movie or series. Unknown actors all around.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 10, 2011, 11:08:50 AM
All main cast really I would love to see unknowns but support rolls I like to see peole I recognize. I know I have thrown some bigger names out myself but I have been trying to pick mostly b-list people.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on May 10, 2011, 11:52:24 AM
I suggested Bruce Campbell as Malcolm Dresden.  It made sense to me since the Xena-era Bruce would have been the perfect Harry.  So, Bruce as his dad in flashbacks would be perfect.

I think if it were put to a vote, Rutger Hauer would beat Hopkins for Odin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 10, 2011, 12:13:24 PM
I suggested Bruce Campbell as Malcolm Dresden.  It made sense to me since the Xena-era Bruce would have been the perfect Harry.  So, Bruce as his dad in flashbacks would be perfect.

I think if it were put to a vote, Rutger Hauer would beat Hopkins for Odin.

I dont really want to through Bruce away on a roll we are only going to see once or twice. I think just a random guy who looks like the actor who plays harry will do. Again I like him for Forthill.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 10, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
Now you know how we feel GW.

No, I'm sorry Bruce Campbell is NOT the Erlking.
You need someone who can bring a LOT of menace to the role - not Campbell - sorry.

I don't see the Erlking as a menace role, more a humorous one
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on May 10, 2011, 12:38:31 PM
Jeffrey Dean Morgan (aka the Comedian) for the Erlking?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 10, 2011, 03:24:04 PM
Tom Waits for the Erlking!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 10, 2011, 03:27:25 PM
After looking at the description of the Erlking's face in Changes, I think that his face should be modeled after he should be played by Tom Waits.
(http://www.allaboutjazz.com/photos/profile/tom_waits.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 10, 2011, 06:22:55 PM
A super tall, lanky uknown actor for Harry please.

Quite frankly I would like to have not heard of anyone in a movie or series. Unknown actors all around.

Not gonna happen if the movie goes because anybody doing major funding will want performers with a proven
track record.  Sorry. 
Umm, unknown for Harry - most likely not gonna happen.  The movie will rest on his shoulders and unknown status
will make investors nervous - also probably make insurance harder to get.
Witness DUNE.  Though he can act now - Kyle McGlaughlin was not experienced enough at that time to really
do justice to Paul's character.  Movie suffered because of it.  Special effects were cheesey too.   
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on May 10, 2011, 07:34:54 PM
For year that Dune was made the effects were not bad.  they also put good if not well know actors in smaller roles i.e. The Duke and Reverend Mother besides as long as sting is not in it the movie will do well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 10, 2011, 11:39:56 PM
Not gonna happen if the movie goes because anybody doing major funding will want performers with a proven
track record.  Sorry. 
Umm, unknown for Harry - most likely not gonna happen.  The movie will rest on his shoulders and unknown status
will make investors nervous - also probably make insurance harder to get.
Witness DUNE.  Though he can act now - Kyle McGlaughlin was not experienced enough at that time to really
do justice to Paul's character.  Movie suffered because of it.  Special effects were cheesey too.   

Hollywood has been using unknowns in a few great movies these last few years. The old blood are doing that, getting old. If this movie were to get made I think having unknowns in it will boost it. Thats why you get known people in support rolls, thats how you make people famous.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on May 10, 2011, 11:44:09 PM
Not gonna happen if the movie goes because anybody doing major funding will want performers with a proven
track record.  Sorry. 
Umm, unknown for Harry - most likely not gonna happen.  The movie will rest on his shoulders and unknown status
will make investors nervous - also probably make insurance harder to get.  

Not necessarily true. Often times studios and filmmakers will prefer working with a talented unknown because....
1. They can pay them less.
2. They are often easier to work with and easier to schedule.
3. Less established actors are less likely to turn down a role.
4. It's the casting director's (and to a somewhat lesser extent, the director's) job to convince any producers or executives that the person they want is right for the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on May 11, 2011, 12:00:18 AM
I agree that I would love to see Bruce in a more substantial role.  However, after seeing Army of Darkness and Burn Notice, I have a hard time seeing Bruce as the pious type.

And you could always open with flashbacks, and space them throughout.  Like...everytime Harry gets knocked out or falls asleep.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 11, 2011, 12:07:02 AM
I agree that I would love to see Bruce in a more substantial role.  However, after seeing Army of Darkness and Burn Notice, I have a hard time seeing Bruce as the pious type.

And you could always open with flashbacks, and space them throughout.  Like...everytime Harry gets knocked out or falls asleep.

problem with most books to movies... they cut important things and add stuff not in the books, lets not add flashbacks that never happened.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cipher on May 11, 2011, 01:37:16 AM
What about Emily Rose as Murphy?  She currently plays Audrey Parker on Haven.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on May 11, 2011, 02:14:22 AM
Quote
Speaking of Burn Notice I think we have to find a roll for Bruce Campbell. Father Forthill? Last mention of him was Anthony Stewart Head or Mark Sheppard. Now Anthony... if you have seen 'Repo! The Genetic Opera' how could you not see him as Nic? Oooo just had an idea for Sheppard, Binder.. ooo he would be perfect for that snarky roll. *basing this on attitude, dont have my book to double check his appearance.*

Bruce Campbell shoul be the voice of Bob if anything. Seriously, just open one of the books to some of bob's dialog and insert campbell's voice in your head. It works.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 11, 2011, 04:05:04 AM
Bruce Campbell shoul be the voice of Bob if anything. Seriously, just open one of the books to some of bob's dialog and insert campbell's voice in your head. It works.

Have you ever listened to the audiobooks? James Marsters HAS to be bob. Plus with him as Bob it leaves plenty of room to give him cameos.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on May 11, 2011, 11:00:32 AM
Bruce Campbell shoul be the voice of Bob if anything. Seriously, just open one of the books to some of bob's dialog and insert campbell's voice in your head. It works.

Have you ever listened to the audiobooks? James Marsters HAS to be bob. Plus with him as Bob it leaves plenty of room to give him cameos.

BZZT! Ooh, I'm sorry, you both had the wrong answer. But thank you for playing, and we have some lovely parting gifts for you!

Bob's voice = Jim. This is a Truth.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Annie Wilkes on May 11, 2011, 02:39:34 PM
I'm gonna suggest a "don juan de marco" or "Cry Baby" era Johnny Depp for thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 11, 2011, 04:04:40 PM
Well, I always figured Wilford Brimley for Eb McCoy, but after I saw the ESPN commercial, "The Cowboy", I've now got a new favorite for McCoy.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/McCoy.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 11, 2011, 08:36:44 PM
I'm gonna suggest a "don juan de marco" or "Cry Baby" era Johnny Depp for thomas.

Take it back ill not let him ruin another movie
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 11, 2011, 10:13:21 PM
BZZT! Ooh, I'm sorry, you both had the wrong answer. But thank you for playing, and we have some lovely parting gifts for you!

Bob's voice = Jim. This is a Truth.

If Jim wants to be bob sure I have not problem with it, but the voice of Bob will always be James Marsters for most of the audiobook listeners as well as myself.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KerrSG1 on May 12, 2011, 02:47:19 AM
Paul Blackthorne!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 12, 2011, 03:15:38 AM
He might have been a GREAT Dresden, but really after the Syfy channel fail I just have trouble seeing him as it. I just have nightmares of Dresden running around with a drumstick trying to get in a rock band that does not use electronic equipment or Playing hockey and melting the ring while yelling "ITS NOT MY FAULT"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 12, 2011, 06:15:30 AM
The more I think about it, the more I realize that he'd make a great Dresden. Besides, I barely watched the Sci-Fi show. (I refuse to call it SyFy)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aerus Dar on May 12, 2011, 07:25:34 AM
Morena Baccarin as Bianca
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 12, 2011, 02:10:50 PM
(I refuse to call it SyFy)

I only call it SyFy when it does stupid stuff that I dont want to associate with a good name.

Try as I might I cant think of a good Hendrix, anyone have ideas?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 12, 2011, 02:14:12 PM
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTk5MzE0ODM5Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTY2NjAwNQ@@._V1._CR33,0,186,186_SS99_.jpg)

Linal Haft, played Warner in Moulin Rouge!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on May 12, 2011, 06:01:55 PM
The actor who played Titus Pollio in HBO's Rome he was also in Punisher War Zone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 12, 2011, 11:17:44 PM
The actor who played Titus Pollio in HBO's Rome he was also in Punisher War Zone

Yeah, he's who I have in mind for Hendricks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on May 13, 2011, 12:15:49 AM
Anyplace for Ving Raimes (sp?) in this?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 13, 2011, 01:45:56 AM
I suppose he could do Magog's voice or something.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 13, 2011, 04:20:52 AM
Anyplace for Ving Raimes (sp?) in this?
Ving Rhames. Rawlings or Stallings? I think he made those rhyme on purpose. Though he is maybe a little more buff then either in the book I can see him as a cop that dont take shit whos been demoted twice or as someone with the guts to call Murphy nicknames...

The actor who played Titus Pollio in HBO's Rome he was also in Punisher War Zone
Ray Stevenson, yes dye that hair red and give him a tall blonde to play Viking quest with.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on May 13, 2011, 01:24:50 PM
I guess I'll have to ask the Ladies on this one.  Is this guess handsome enough to be Thomas?  Because he was awesome in Hellboy, and I'd love to see him in there somewhere.  I could see him being Thomas...(although he's really my frisrt choice to play Drizz't Do'urden in a Drizzt movie....but thats another story)

http://www.imdb.com/rg/mediaindex/unknown-thumbnail/media/rm3578369792/nm0331577 (http://www.imdb.com/rg/mediaindex/unknown-thumbnail/media/rm3578369792/nm0331577)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: lilbirdy on May 13, 2011, 06:17:17 PM
hmmm... young actor who, at least, favors a younger Bruce ... tall, dark-haired & dark-eyed.  Joe Manganiello?  He's either 6'5" or 6' 6".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 14, 2011, 09:22:51 AM
Well, since very few if anyone seem to like/care about Molly, here's my latest favorite.

Spencer Locke
Currently 19
Height 5'7"
Too old for the first book with Molly, but only by a few years.  Hollywood could make her look younger, and then she could 'grow' at a faster pace for the series, since 1 dresden year won't equal one real year.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/Spencer_Locke.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 14, 2011, 11:13:27 PM
Dianna Agron got a new haircut, and since I think she's just adorable, I'm tossing her in the casting mix.

Dianna Agron (Glee, FOX) for Murphy or Maeve
Currently 25
Height 5'6"
Probably too tall for Karrin Murphy, but still a good age to start her at, unless JB really wants her to be older. 
She might also be eligible for Maeve, but I always imagined that role to be a little more... voluptuous.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/dianna_agron-.jpg)


If she WERE going to be Maeve, I think she should do Aurora as well, since they were described nearly as polar opposite twins.  And that would influence my opinion on Mab as well.  I see something similar between her and Stana Katic (Castle, ABC).

Stana Katic for Mab
Currently 33
Height 5'9"
Only 8 years separate Stana and Dianna, but I think that could be handled between make-up and the slow aging of Fae.  Make Dianna look a little younger, and Stana look a little older (so she looks the same as the series progresses).

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/stana-katic.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 14, 2011, 11:49:17 PM
Diana Agron for Maeve and Stana Katic for Susan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on May 15, 2011, 12:09:12 AM
and Stana Katic for Susan.

Seconded.

Diana Agron for Mab though, I think
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 15, 2011, 12:13:15 AM
Naw, as odd as it sounds - to me Mab has to be both etherial and very solid - sorta of like
a cross between a frost crystal and a freaking avalance - if that makes any sense?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 15, 2011, 12:34:39 AM
Stana Katic for Susan.

She's not latina.  Exotic European looks, yes, but not latina.   I know JB like Erica Cerra from Eureka, so if it works for him, it works for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 15, 2011, 02:46:29 AM
(http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/jennifer-connelly/jennifer-connelly-20060618-138061.jpg)

Jennifer Connelly for Lara. I can't believe no one's suggested her yet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 15, 2011, 02:52:25 AM
Jennifer Connelly for Lara. I can't believe no one's suggested her yet.

See, my problem is that when I look at casting for these roles, I really think about who can play the part for a series, as opposed to who look correct right now.

If TDF were put on TV as a premium channel series, and they did two books a year, you're still looking at 10+ years of filming.  So Jennifer Connelly, as gorgeous as she may be, is 41 right now, and would be in her early to mid 50's by the time the series was over.

That's why I keep casting young.  I see Mab as being a hot 40's FQILF, but you'd have to cast much younger than that to keep the character consistent.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 15, 2011, 06:26:26 AM
Well, since very few if anyone seem to like/care about Molly, here's my latest favorite.
I gave what I think were a few good Mollys, post is at the top of page 250. My favorites were Emma Roberts, AnnaSophia Robb or Emily Browning
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on May 15, 2011, 07:11:31 AM
Jonathan Hyde as the Merlin? He has snooty British down pat.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0404993/

All the actresses I can think of for young-adult Molly are, by definition, too old to play Molly when she was first introduced. I'm not that familiar with child actresses these days, and I think Molly was around 8 or 10 when she first appears.  I just saw a trailer for some kids movie, though, and girls look promising:


Jordana Beatty (rewriting Molly as a rehead, please?): http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1970642/
Taylar Hender (who does not look 13): http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2979895/
Ashley Boettcher (no info on her age): http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2172001/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 15, 2011, 10:04:52 AM
I guess I'll have to ask the Ladies on this one.  Is this guess handsome enough to be Thomas?  Because he was awesome in Hellboy, and I'd love to see him in there somewhere.  I could see him being Thomas...(although he's really my frisrt choice to play Drizz't Do'urden in a Drizzt movie....but thats another story)

http://www.imdb.com/rg/mediaindex/unknown-thumbnail/media/rm3578369792/nm0331577 (http://www.imdb.com/rg/mediaindex/unknown-thumbnail/media/rm3578369792/nm0331577)

Luke Goss?  From Bros?  Oh for the love of all that is unholy, no!

I can see what you're thinking though.  He's made a better career as an actor than he ever did as a singer IMHO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 15, 2011, 02:30:56 PM
What about Toby Jones as Mortimer Lindquist? I just feel like he has the right look and voice for the role. Admittedly, the only things I've seen him in are Doctor Who and Harry Potter (he's the voice of Dobby).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on May 16, 2011, 12:49:24 PM
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Luke Goss?  From Bros?  Oh for the love of all that is unholy, no!

I can see what you're thinking though.  He's made a better career as an actor than he ever did as a singer IMHO.

He was in a band?  Didnt know that at all.  I was really just thinking for the action scenes.  I thought the fight scenes with the spear (which was a Badass weapon IMO) were awesome in hellboy..and i kind of like the softspokenness he had.  Like im going to tell you softly how I'm going to kill you...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 16, 2011, 10:24:30 PM
Okay, I've found my current crush for Leah.

Klodi Monsoon
Age:  24
A Ukranian model.  Does artistic shots and some nudes, so she probably wouldn't have a problem with any risqué stuff in TDF.  Not sure if she could act her way out of a box, but her looks should get her a casting call.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/Leah.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/Klodi_Monsoon-Leah2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 16, 2011, 11:38:11 PM
Lol, one of the suicide girls? I mean she is hot enough for it and I have seen models turn into fine actresses Tricia Helfer for one. But I don't know about this one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on May 17, 2011, 01:43:45 AM
Ooh, she definitely has the look down. Bonus if she's capable of acting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 17, 2011, 02:14:13 AM
More important that she can act guys.  Lea's too important a character to have someone with the acting skills
of a canned anchovie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 17, 2011, 01:05:56 PM
To be fair, I've seen some brilliant anchovie actors.


Until they got canned of course.  Then they got drunk and just lay there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 17, 2011, 06:42:20 PM
To be fair, I've seen some brilliant anchovie actors.


Until they got canned of course.  Then they got drunk and just lay there.

Bleargh.  Hi BM - ouch that doesn't come across well.
Is Iago gonna let you change back?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 17, 2011, 06:45:02 PM
haven't heard back yet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 18, 2011, 03:14:04 AM
You know, after trying to see if she has done ANY acting I found the only thing she has really done was model as Triss from game Witcher... but the shots were for playboy in poland. On another note I REALLY agree on the sexy take your soul for a fling Fea after seeing this.
(http://statics.photodom.com/photos/2009/01/25/1182556.jpg)

Again, if she can act. Her being Ukranian is about the only thing that scares me, how strong her accent will be and if she can cut it out.... hell can she even speak English?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 18, 2011, 03:44:06 AM
You know, after trying to see if she has done ANY acting I found the only thing she has really done was model as Triss from game Witcher... but the shots were for playboy in poland. On another note I REALLY agree on the sexy take your soul for a fling Fea after seeing this.
(http://statics.photodom.com/photos/2009/01/25/1182556.jpg)

Again, if she can act. Her being Ukranian is about the only thing that scares me, how strong her accent will be and if she can cut it out.... hell can she even speak English?
They can dub, heck it might even give that slightly inhuman voice
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 18, 2011, 04:18:19 AM
They can dub, heck it might even give that slightly inhuman voice

Oooo, I did not even think about that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on May 18, 2011, 01:53:12 PM
To that point though...who says that faeries speak flawless english?  i think it would make more sense for her to speak with some kind of an accent
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 18, 2011, 02:41:42 PM
With Mab might be nice to layer in behind her voice the sounds of winter.
A faint chiming of ice crystals when she's in a good mood (or as good as she can get)
The cold roar of a blizzard when she's pissed off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on May 18, 2011, 02:55:40 PM
Yeah, I don't picture her like just talking and it sounding like any old beautiful woman speaking ya know?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 18, 2011, 06:25:29 PM
I've been looking at other pictures of Klodi Monsoon, and I think I've fallen in love.  She's got my vote for Lea, that's for damn sure.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on May 18, 2011, 06:30:09 PM
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/231/7/f/1_by_Klodi.jpg)
umm ditto

some great pics of her on deviant art... aslo

http://klodi.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=48#/d2ueph7 (http://klodi.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=48#/d2ueph7)

Lea and Maggie Sr?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on May 18, 2011, 06:38:37 PM
I do have a question tho... can anyone find a description of Lea and Lily?  I know lea has red hair..but i feel like Klodi would be better as Lilly instead of Lea...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 18, 2011, 06:58:45 PM
from GP:
A very tall, slender inhumanly beautiful women stepped out of the smoke. Reddish hair curled down past her hips in riotous cascade, complementing her flawless skin, high cheekbones, and lush, full, bloodred lips. Her face was ageless, and her golden eyes had vertical slits instead of pupils, like a cat. Her gown was a flowing affair of deep green.

EDIT: other books

SK: Lea stood nearly my own height, but instead of dark contrast and harsh angles, she was a creature of gliding curves and gentle shades. Hair the color of flame coursed in curls and ringlets to below her hips...... Her beauty went without saying. The perfection of her form was complemented by features of feminine loveliness, a full mouth, skin like cream, and oblong, feline eyes of gold, cat-slitted like those of most fae

Changes:She was tall and beyound beautiful -- like most of the Sidhe are. Her skin was fair and flawless, her eyes enormous, slightly oblique orbs of emerald green. In fact, they almost mirrored Mister's eyes as he say primly in the Sidhe woman's lap. Her lips were full and very red, and her long red hair, accented with streaks of pure white, spilled down in silken coils and waves over her dress of emerald green.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on May 18, 2011, 07:03:37 PM
thanks Kilroy, I guess it just confuses me that an agent of winter has red hair and a green dress....that seems much more summery to me. 

Like when he meets Mab at one point shes in a white suit...that makes more sense to me..  just my $.02
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 18, 2011, 07:16:05 PM
from GP:
A very tall, slender inhumanly beautiful women stepped out of the smoke. Reddish hair curled down past her hips in riotous cascade, complementing her flawless skin, high cheekbones, and lush, full, bloodred lips. Her face was ageless, and her golden eyes had vertical slits instead of pupils, like a cat. Her gown was a flowing affair of deep green.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/Klodi_Monsoon-Leah2.jpg)

Give her cat-eye contacts and we've got our lea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 18, 2011, 07:16:38 PM
thanks Kilroy, I guess it just confuses me that an agent of winter has red hair and a green dress....that seems much more summery to me. 

Like when he meets Mab at one point shes in a white suit...that makes more sense to me..  just my $.02

I think Jennie Greenteeth had green hair and... er... teeth.  I believe it was a darker green, but you'd still associate green with life and summer.  But she's Winter.  I don't think the Fae are as stereotypical as Power Rangers.  They have a diverse wardrobe.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on May 18, 2011, 07:23:14 PM
 I don't think the Fae are as stereotypical as Power Rangers.  They have a diverse wardrobe.

Ha nice.  I guess just because mab and maeve kind of seem to exude winter thats all..  and wasn't aurora like blond and stuff...just my thought process..i have no problems with it, just my thinking is all..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 18, 2011, 08:13:59 PM
Mab from SK:
In the ruins of my office stood a woman with the kind of beauty that makes men murder friends and start wars.

She stood by my desk with her arms folded, facing the door, hips cocked to one side, her expression skeptical. She had white hair. Not white-blond, not platinum. White as snow, white as the finest marble, bound up like a captured cloud to bare the lines of her slender throat. I don't know how her skin managed to look pale beside that hair but it did. Her lips were the color of frozen mulberries, almost shocking in a smooth and lovely face, and her oblique eyes were a deep green that tinted to blue when she tilted her head and looked me over. She wasn't old. Wasn't young. Wasn;t anything but stunning.

I tried to keep my jaw from hitting the floor and forced my brain to start doing something by taking stock of her wardrobe. She wore a woman;s suit of charcoal grey, the cut immaculate. The skirt showed exactly enough leg to make it hard not to look, and her dark pumps had heels just high enough to give you ideas. She wore a bone-white V-neck beneath her jacket, the neckline dipping just low enough to make me want to be watching if she took a deep breath. Opals set in silver flashed on her ears, at her throat, glittering through an array of colors I wouldn't have expected from opals-too many scarlets and violets and deep blues. Her nails had somehow been lacquered in the same opalescence.

.... I believe you are lat," she replied. Sommerset had a voice like her outfit-rich, suggestive, cultured. Her English had an accent I couldn't place. Maybe European. Definitely interresting....

and if you have not read my Signature before.
"Maybe I'd been shut away in my lab too long, but Spenser never mentions that the Faerie Queen has a great ass."

Also her eyes were a glimmer during this scene, far as I can tell they are pretty much the same except they are cat-like as Lea's are.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on May 18, 2011, 08:23:40 PM
hmm, i thought she had a white suit on in one of they're meetings but yeah, thats more what I would picture as being a part of the winter sidhe.

P.s. thanks again Kilroy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on May 19, 2011, 12:25:58 AM
thanks Kilroy, I guess it just confuses me that an agent of winter has red hair and a green dress....that seems much more summery to me. 

As confusing as a Summer King hanging out in Winter?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 19, 2011, 01:08:38 AM
As confusing as a Summer King hanging out in Winter?

he doesn't TECHNICALLY hang out in Winter.  He just acts like winter,
(click to show/hide)
lair is in Wild Faerie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 19, 2011, 01:56:06 AM
Offhand I can not think of the Winter King... has it been said who the current King is? I am assuming to have balance of the courts there HAS to be a king at all times. Maybe Mab will have a promotion for Harry in mind after a decade or two of training as Winter Knight.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: co99p on May 19, 2011, 01:59:31 AM
Inst there a WOJ that says the Winter King is Santa Claus?

Harry as Santa -  :o   Who would he get as Mrs Claus?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 19, 2011, 02:06:59 AM
Well thats just it, I think Mab wants to be *If thats correct* Mrs Claus.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on May 19, 2011, 02:17:27 AM
Santa Claus is the Winter King. The Erlking is the Summer King.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mabb on May 19, 2011, 05:11:07 AM
Let's throw Johnny Depp into the story somewhere...maybe as a Red Court vampire....or a white court vampire....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 19, 2011, 05:27:14 AM
No... he is WAY to main stream, if he is in the movie it is to be killed within seconds of coming on screen.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 19, 2011, 04:38:46 PM
Let's throw Johnny Depp into the story somewhere...maybe as a Red Court vampire....or a white court vampire....

MORTY!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 20, 2011, 12:48:40 AM
Larry Fowler?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 20, 2011, 12:52:39 AM
Larry Fowler?

Nah.  I see Larry more as a cross between Conan and Leno, with just a touch of Springer tossed in.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 20, 2011, 01:41:42 AM
I see Fowler more like Jerry Springer myself.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 20, 2011, 01:58:58 AM
Thank you, I couldn't think of the name for a moment.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sandman1313 on May 21, 2011, 07:01:13 AM
ok so my vote, Ryan Reynolds, comes in third behind castle and wolverine. ??? ??? ???
ok so Nathan would not be bad at it but Hugh has no comedic ability at all and maybe i am late on this but where the hell is James marsters i mean really he has the look and he does the audio books great and we could get David boriuonz to play Tomas ;)

I know some one has most likely brought this up but it should be a choice
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 21, 2011, 03:21:15 PM
I think the general idea is Marsters has gotten a little too old to play a main roll (He would be pushing 50 by the time they make it), I have said as he does audio books he should be Bob being the only voice only character. Which would also give them room to use him as several little rolls. Others want Jim to do Bob but really after all his work on the Audiobooks these years Marsters is the man.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sandman1313 on May 21, 2011, 06:06:03 PM
i think maybe he will be to old but it is his voice i hear when i read the novels and i cant picture harry as any one else
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 22, 2011, 05:07:01 AM
The Problem with Renolds is that i think we would get funny but not the right kind of funny
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on May 22, 2011, 10:59:12 PM
Billy is hard to cast because he needs to go fat to muscular. So who better than the original fat to thin master Jerry O'Connell (time travel for appropriate age.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on May 23, 2011, 01:25:15 AM
Billy is hard to cast because he needs to go fat to muscular. So who better than the original fat to thin master Jerry O'Connell (time travel for appropriate age.)

What about the kid who plays Samwell Tarly on Game of Thrones? John Bradley?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 23, 2011, 02:04:12 AM
I know I posted this a while back, but the discussion about the Winter King reminded me.

Since the Winter King is Santa Claus, there's really only one actor for the job.
BRIAN BLESSED

Oh, and Hellen Mirren for one of the Mothers. Probably Mother Summer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on May 23, 2011, 05:30:11 AM
Oh, and Hellen Mirren for one of the Mothers. Probably Mother Summer.

That works. I would cast her in both roles though. Drive home the concept that they are aspects of one another.

What about the kid who plays Samwell Tarly on Game of Thrones? John Bradley?

He would have to seriouslly knuckle down and get in shape.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 23, 2011, 07:09:23 AM
I have had David Blue in mind for billy for a time now, he lost a good bit of weight during SG:U and I can see him buffing up some.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on May 24, 2011, 02:41:11 AM
That works. I would cast her in both roles though. Drive home the concept that they are aspects of one another.

this.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 24, 2011, 07:29:57 PM
That works. I would cast her in both roles though. Drive home the concept that they are aspects of one another.

2 Hellen Mirrens? Yeah, definitely this.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on May 24, 2011, 07:46:48 PM
I always pictured the Mothers, Queens, and Ladies as being essentially 3 sets of twins. So it would make sense having Helen Mirren play both mothers, Kristen Bell (my vote!) as both Aurora and Maeve, and whomever as both Queens (I don't have a fave yet there).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on May 24, 2011, 08:33:31 PM
Quote
author=Me Grimlock King link=topic=15623.msg1106805#msg1106805 date=1305743409]
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/231/7/f/1_by_Klodi.jpg)
umm ditto


Favorite
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on May 25, 2011, 02:05:14 PM
I always pictured the Mothers, Queens, and Ladies as being essentially 3 sets of twins. So it would make sense having Helen Mirren play both mothers, Kristen Bell (my vote!) as both Aurora and Maeve, and whomever as both Queens (I don't have a fave yet there).
Hmm... you know thats not a bad theory. I can see it with the Mothers but I just dont know how well that would work with the rest.

Favorite
That reminds me, I found this on her deviantart page. As much as I hate the fact its a SG shot omg it is the part. I dont know if I like her for Leah or Mab more, I know she could do either but wow.
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs42/i/2009/077/7/2/Angel_by_Klodi.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 25, 2011, 11:43:02 PM
But can she act??
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on May 26, 2011, 09:24:02 PM
(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/SeanBlackstone/harrydresden-1.jpg)


you CANT tell me this isnt a good Harry....(minus the stache and goatee, little darker hair.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on May 26, 2011, 11:07:47 PM
(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/SeanBlackstone/harrydresden-1.jpg)


you CANT tell me this isnt a good Harry....(minus the stache and goatee, little darker hair.)

Oooh, he's purrrrty. Maybe a little too cute to play Harry, but then, if that's a detail we have to sacrifice in order to have a quality leading man, well, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 27, 2011, 01:47:36 AM
Who is the puurrrty one?  I don't recognize him.
And yes, he is purrrty.  Could be good for Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on May 27, 2011, 02:01:31 AM
his names Garret Hedlund, he played Sam Flynn it Tron: Legacy. Also Played Murtagh in Eragon.
I think he'd be a great Harry.
someone much prettier has to play Thomas....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 27, 2011, 01:16:20 PM
I think I've just found the perfect voice for the Erlking. Michael Sheen. Really. If anyone has seen "The Doctor's Wife" (season 6 episode 4 of Doctor Who), he's the voice of House. For those who haven't...you'll know the voice when you hear it in the trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZAVJOEGnsw
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 27, 2011, 07:36:49 PM
I think I've just found the perfect voice for the Erlking. Michael Sheen. Really. If anyone has seen "The Doctor's Wife" (season 6 episode 4 of Doctor Who), he's the voice of House. For those who haven't...you'll know the voice when you hear it in the trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZAVJOEGnsw

Michael Sheen is cool and all, but I still say Tom Waits.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 27, 2011, 09:21:13 PM
Michael Sheen is cool and all, but I still say Tom Waits.
My idea has always been that Tom Waits would be used for his face (when he takes off his helmet in Changes), but his voice should be deeper and smoother. Tom waits just sounds a little too hoarse, at least when I've seen him talk in movies (Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on May 28, 2011, 06:29:16 AM
(http://crowdfusion.myspacecdn.com/media/212857-alex-gonzalez-speaks-in-depth-on-riptide-role-in-x-men-first-class-and-more-621x322.png)
mmmmmmmm Carlos. - Álex González from the xmen first class movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on May 28, 2011, 03:25:18 PM
mmmmmmmm Carlos. - Álex González from the xmen first class movie.

Ooh, he's a pretty one!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 28, 2011, 03:36:17 PM
Mmmm.  Very nice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Esperacchius on May 28, 2011, 03:45:04 PM
Ooh, he's a pretty one!
(http://crowdfusion.myspacecdn.com/media/212857-alex-gonzalez-speaks-in-depth-on-riptide-role-in-x-men-first-class-and-more-621x322.png)
mmmmmmmm Carlos. - Álex González from the xmen first class movie.

He is indeed a pretty one, but does he look a scoch old for 'los?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 28, 2011, 06:16:24 PM
I think he'd be great for Carlos.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on May 28, 2011, 08:16:41 PM
2 Hellen Mirrens?

Awwwwwwwwyeah.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: co99p on May 29, 2011, 03:35:15 AM
How about Eric Balfour for Harry?   lately of Syfy channels Haven - hes got the snark, tall, skinny, good voice too.


(http://www.syfy.com/_cache/images/assets/haven/2010-11/photo_duke_02_129106301909___CC___685x385.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on May 29, 2011, 04:16:47 PM
How about Eric Balfour for Harry?   lately of Syfy channels Haven - hes got the snark, tall, skinny, good voice too.


(http://www.syfy.com/_cache/images/assets/haven/2010-11/photo_duke_02_129106301909___CC___685x385.jpg)
I can't see him as a Harry. He'd make an amazing Carlos, though, if he were a couple years younger. He could probably pass for Hispanic, if you squinted  :-\. He's without a doubt the main reason I've continued watching Haven, because he's amazing from what I've seen so far. And not at all hard on the eyes, amIright?  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on May 30, 2011, 12:59:42 AM
I could see Balfour as Harry.  Or his Haven co-star (I dont know the guy's name)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on May 30, 2011, 01:27:52 AM
If we're really looking for "perfect" casting, we need a Harry and a Thomas who look somewhat like each other.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: badassassin on May 30, 2011, 02:08:37 AM
is it just me, or is this mostly "who would be the best looking guy in this role?" :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on May 30, 2011, 02:13:09 AM
is it just me, or is this mostly "who would be the best looking guy in this role?" :)
I don't have a problem with that. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 30, 2011, 02:56:04 AM
I've noticed that problem too. Especially when people are trying to cast Butters. He's supposed to be kinda weird looking, which is why I use Steve Buscemi.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 30, 2011, 07:39:12 AM
Looks are important, acting ability is of equal or greater importance.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 30, 2011, 04:15:30 PM
If we're really looking for "perfect" casting, we need a Harry and a Thomas who look somewhat like each other.

Denisof and Marsters respectively.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on May 31, 2011, 04:01:09 PM
Harry and Thomas dont really look alike. when described in Changes, they have same jawline, and thats about it. And Im a dude, so Im not factoring in best looking, Im factoring in acting ability and who looks the closest to my mental image. Tall and kinda gaunt. long features basically. and I go by the movies Ive seen them in to determine if they could fit the role. Garret Hedlund matches for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 31, 2011, 07:16:17 PM
Denisof and Marsters respectively.

Denisof and Marsters respectively.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 31, 2011, 08:11:15 PM
Marsters can't be thomas he is just too old now like 12 years ago maybe but i digress
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BobForPresident on May 31, 2011, 08:25:07 PM
Couple a new-ish ideas. Assuming I don't get the audition to play Billy. I'm a big dork and I'm in shape and everything!! :)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BobForPresident on May 31, 2011, 08:36:35 PM
One more Kincaid possibility: Michael C Hall. I would love to see Dexter taking out vamps with a high powered rifle.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 01, 2011, 01:58:06 AM
Well...he does work in Hollywood...I could go out on a limb and cast ol' Bob for Billy.

And I voted Clive Owens for Harry, too, looking specifically at his chivalrous but self-hating nature (at least in the early books you can't deny Harry has a bit going on) as Dwight in Sin City.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BobForPresident on June 01, 2011, 04:48:25 AM
Well...he does work in Hollywood...I could go out on a limb and cast ol' Bob for Billy.

And I voted Clive Owens for Harry, too, looking specifically at his chivalrous but self-hating nature (at least in the early books you can't deny Harry has a bit going on) as Dwight in Sin City.

Whee! Thanks!

Have you seen Shoot Em Up? There's a lotta Kincaid in there....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 01, 2011, 06:45:43 AM
Bob pics or i could not possibly vote you for billy although if you don't feel like it it's alright
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on June 02, 2011, 12:03:11 AM
Hey, Grey Warden!  How about the guy in your pic, Richard Dean Anderson, as Marcone?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 02, 2011, 03:15:07 AM
Hey, Grey Warden!  How about the guy in your pic, Richard Dean Anderson, as Marcone?

After Stargate i could not possibly take him seriously enough for him to be marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on June 02, 2011, 12:47:28 PM
I don't know.  Dye his hair salt and pepper, give him a goatee...  I think he could pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on June 02, 2011, 01:14:06 PM
ehhh lets be honest, who is really scared of Macgyver
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: polkaneverdies on June 02, 2011, 01:34:13 PM
That depends... does he have a shoe string, aluminum foil, a paper clip, a wrist watch?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on June 02, 2011, 04:28:16 PM
touche
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 02, 2011, 07:34:58 PM
I'll be honest.  All the craftiness in the world is no substitute for a good pistol at your side.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on June 02, 2011, 07:37:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI_kkQH-pnc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI_kkQH-pnc)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BobForPresident on June 03, 2011, 04:57:46 PM
Bob pics or i could not possibly vote you for billy although if you don't feel like it it's alright

Well, Mr. Casting Director, here's my headshot. Tell me I don't have Billy written all over me!! *primps*


(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/HeathHarper/standgreen1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 03, 2011, 07:39:00 PM
Billy he is.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 03, 2011, 07:41:07 PM
I'd be perfectly happy to put him up for Chandler too.  (The British Warden Harry always calls Steed in fun)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Araris Dresden on June 04, 2011, 06:45:24 PM
Well, Mr. Casting Director, here's my headshot. Tell me I don't have Billy written all over me!! *primps*


(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/HeathHarper/standgreen1.jpg)

Just out of curiosity, how tall are you?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BobForPresident on June 04, 2011, 08:54:50 PM
Just out of curiosity, how tall are you?

6 foot even.

Funny story - I came out to Hollywood thinking, "six feet tall. That's perfect, right? Not too tall, not too short." Yeah, not so much. 6 feet is the height of the body-builder type guys out here. The average leading man in Hollywood is like 5' 9" or something. I've stood in (body doubled) for a few of the movie superheroes the past couple years and it's like, "Wow. You're considered huge. Why I am here?"  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on June 04, 2011, 09:29:58 PM
We'd have to find a 6'6" actress to play Georgia, but sure.  You could start off in a chub-suit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 04, 2011, 09:56:34 PM
Thanks Bob and i could totally see you for billy  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BobForPresident on June 04, 2011, 11:58:27 PM
We'd have to find a 6'6" actress to play Georgia, but sure.  You could start off in a chub-suit.

I agree. We need to find me a gorgeous amazon model to play Georgia. In fact, that's going in my contract right under the required giant bowl of green m&ms.

But as we all know, when casting fiction the first thing that goes out the door is extraordinary height issues. If Hugh Jackman can play 5' 5" Wolverine, 6'0" BobForPresident can play Billy Borden!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vulcanisik on June 05, 2011, 08:32:39 AM
Ortega - He played Richard on Lost.

(http://www.cinemaspy.com/img/user/Nestor-Carbonell_98797878.jpg)

Seconding Jeff Bridges for McCoy.

Adam Baldwin for Kincaid. Win.

Mort - This is funny, but, I think Bruce Campbell would be a good Mort. He can pull of the charlatan medium goofiness with great camp.

Nicodemus.

(http://blastr.com/assets_c/2009/01/Lost_Emerson2-thumb-500x379-11866.jpg)

Emerson can go from nice guy to evil in zero seconds flat. Plus his eyes, yikes.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on June 05, 2011, 01:54:54 PM
Ortega - He played Richard on Lost.

(http://www.cinemaspy.com/img/user/Nestor-Carbonell_98797878.jpg)

Holycrap. I've just now realised that he's the exact mental picture I get for Ortega. That's what I get for reading TDF at the same time as I was catching up on Lost, I guess.

Emerson doesn't strike me as a Nicodemus though, for some reason. I get more of an American Psycho vibe from Nic (well... an older and less pretty Christian Bale, maybe...). A full-fledged, not going to change sides any time soon, charming, smiling politely even as he murders you, deranged psychopath.   Not the "You never know if I'm a good guy or a bad guy because I change sides every other week due to being a bit self-centered, making bad decisions, wanting to survive, wanting lotsa power and respect, ect., ect."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on June 05, 2011, 02:46:07 PM
I'd have a hard time taking Batmanuel seriously as a villain.  :D

(http://www.latinoreview.com/images/user/Batmanuelpub.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 05, 2011, 07:42:06 PM
I'd forgotten about that series.
ROTFLMAO
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on June 05, 2011, 07:46:06 PM
Batmanuel????
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 05, 2011, 07:48:34 PM
It was a series, I forget the name, and he was a super hero.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on June 05, 2011, 07:49:20 PM
I'm so not sure if that is truly awful or damned funny.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 05, 2011, 07:51:08 PM
Wildly silly.  Should show that pic to Chiro - she'll either be highly indignant or rotflhao.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BobForPresident on June 05, 2011, 10:30:28 PM
I think Dos Eqquis' "The Most Interesting Man in the World" should do Ortega. Come on. Couldn't you just see him sitting on Larry Fowler terrifying our narrator?

(http://www.nomorebacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/most-interesting-man-in-the-world.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kingaling on June 05, 2011, 11:30:16 PM
I think Dos Eqquis' "The Most Interesting Man in the World" should do Ortega. Come on. Couldn't you just see him sitting on Larry Fowler terrifying our narrator?

(http://www.nomorebacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/most-interesting-man-in-the-world.jpg)

"I don't always fight wizard detectives. But when I do, I cheat."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BobForPresident on June 06, 2011, 01:24:43 AM
"I don't always fight wizard detectives. But when I do, I cheat."

YES!!!

"I don't always drink blood. But when I do, I prefer children's."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 06, 2011, 01:56:23 AM
Naw, I don't see him for Ortega.
Not sinister enough in my books.  Ortega should be suave and sinister.

By the by, the series he was in was the live action Tick series.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on June 07, 2011, 01:02:43 AM
I think Dos Eqquis' "The Most Interesting Man in the World" should do Ortega. Come on. Couldn't you just see him sitting on Larry Fowler terrifying our narrator?

(http://www.nomorebacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/most-interesting-man-in-the-world.jpg)

I don't know the guy's name, but he played Sam Francisco in the Alien Nation TV series.

"Running in place will never get you the same results as running from a lion."  Yeah, like crapped out of a lions butt the next day.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 07, 2011, 01:07:43 AM
live action Tick series.

There is something fundamentally flawed about this statement.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on June 07, 2011, 01:51:06 AM
There is something fundamentally flawed about this statement.

Whaaaa??? How have you not seen this? It is absolutely made of awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cipher on June 07, 2011, 02:29:14 AM
Patrick Warburton was the Tick and it was terrifying and hillarious at the same time.  (Though my fav character is American Maid)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: polkaneverdies on June 07, 2011, 03:12:04 AM
I loved the cartoon but somehow managed to remain ignorant of the existence of live version. Even better news is that Putty plays the Tick.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Navycrewbrother on June 08, 2011, 05:07:44 AM
Hi Y'all- new here, big Dresden Files fan.  Just finished reading the series for the second time.

Has anyone suggested Mary McCormack as Charity Carpenter?  Looks great as a blond, but old enough to have teenage kids, broad shoulders, strong look, plays a great aggressive female (In Plain Sight).  Her film career has been slow enough that you could actually afford her.

The one good casting decision from the TV show was Valerie Cruz as Murphy.  I would have never seen it, given her not looking a ton like the physical description, but I thought she was the only one who played the character well.



Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on June 08, 2011, 10:53:26 AM
Had a thought last night.  Liam Neeson for Langtry and Jeremy Irons for Nicodemus.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 08, 2011, 06:16:15 PM
Oh Jeremy Irons would be great for Nic.
He can literally seem to drip menace.

Had a thought - the guy on white collar - sorry don't know the name - to play Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 08, 2011, 07:21:18 PM
Matt Bomer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Bomer), Agreed
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on June 08, 2011, 08:23:07 PM
Yup.

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgdi5vjufl1qaxvw5o1_r1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1307650916&Signature=eWAX3m%2FYdSXtOPLEHnuE2CFJGyg%3D)


Edit: Woah, why no resize, board?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on June 09, 2011, 12:16:50 AM
I agreed on Bomer's face, but it wasn't until I saw a pic of him with his shirt off.  He's in good enough shape to play Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CHAR2056 on June 20, 2011, 02:38:17 PM
I know she's a little to tall at 5'-4" but my favoite actress for Murphy is Sarah Carter.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0141931/

Just watched DOA (Dead or Alive) again and the scene where she fights 20 people on the stairs just screams the fight at CI.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrdkSfGCOKI
The scene I'm talking about starts at 2:15 in the above clip.

*Fixed the second link.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CHAR2056 on June 20, 2011, 02:56:49 PM
And a thought just hit Mark Strong (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835016/) for Gentleman Johnny M.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on June 20, 2011, 03:50:29 PM
Quote
And a thought just hit Mark Strong (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835016/) for Gentleman Johnny M.

Yes!!!! just watched Sherlock Holmes the other day, and he was the bad guy (forget his name) but he was great!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 20, 2011, 06:32:11 PM
Moriarty?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on June 20, 2011, 06:34:56 PM
no, he's the criminal in the next one....Lord Blackwood i think.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 20, 2011, 06:36:30 PM
Ah.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on June 20, 2011, 06:45:16 PM
Yeah, it was actually pretty good.  I'll see the next one, got a long list of movies i need to see still...thor, x-men, the other harry, green lantern, green hornet, gotta get ta watching.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 20, 2011, 06:48:28 PM
I saw Thor and the X-Men.  Thor's a great popcorn movie.
X-men is another great popcorn movie though you do have some stuff to think about.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on June 20, 2011, 07:03:29 PM
nice, Green Lantern and X-men are playing at the drive in around me, I want to go.  That would be sick
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 20, 2011, 07:26:19 PM
That does sound like fun.  On top of which it's a drive in - way cool.
I want to see Green Lantern.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CHAR2056 on June 20, 2011, 07:39:52 PM
I saw Thor and the X-Men.  Thor's a great popcorn movie.
X-men is another great popcorn movie though you do have some stuff to think about.

If you saw X-Men and Thor and liked them Green Lantern is on the same level of fun.  The movie I'm behind on right now is Super 8
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 21, 2011, 12:54:04 AM
I saw it.  Don't know whether you want my opinion or not.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 21, 2011, 11:46:58 PM
I do.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 22, 2011, 06:03:22 AM
Hey WJM, long time no see.  We're being Warner Bros. for you all week.
As for review of Super8.  I'll put it in spoilers just in case.
(click to show/hide)
I hope that helps.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: j3nnee on June 22, 2011, 07:22:30 AM
Harry and Thomas dont really look alike. when described in Changes, they have same jawline, and thats about it. And Im a dude, so Im not factoring in best looking, Im factoring in acting ability and who looks the closest to my mental image. Tall and kinda gaunt. long features basically. and I go by the movies Ive seen them in to determine if they could fit the role. Garret Hedlund matches for me.

No matter what... I will always vote Matt Bomer for Thomas.

I know he fits because when I first picked up Changes and read the scene where Thomas shows up for the first time, I just about squeed cause my mental imagery showed me Matt Bomer walking out dressed in the character desc. It was like the perfect scene and very vivid. It just clicked. I had to stop reading long enough to just soak it in. I tend to read books and it's like I"m watching tv. I see it all so vividly and Matt just fit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on June 22, 2011, 11:56:03 AM
No matter what... I will always vote Matt Bomer for Thomas.

I know he fits because when I first picked up Changes and read the scene where Thomas shows up for the first time, I just about squeed cause my mental imagery showed me Matt Bomer walking out dressed in the character desc. It was like the perfect scene and very vivid. It just clicked. I had to stop reading long enough to just soak it in. I tend to read books and it's like I"m watching tv. I see it all so vividly and Matt just fit.

Why picture Thomas' first appearance in Changes when you can picture his first appearance ever?  Who will photoshop butterfly wings onto these photos of Matt Bomer in a loincloth (http://shameme.net/celebrities/super-hero-fan/i-heart-the-internet-matt-bomer-in-a-loin-cloth/)? :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 22, 2011, 12:21:07 PM
Speaking of Xmen, having seen the First Class, Im starting to think that Michael Fassbender (who played magneto) could make a damn good Harry.   I haven't seen him in anything else to judge his acting range, but visually I think he has the look.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on June 22, 2011, 01:10:21 PM
Quote
Speaking of Xmen, having seen the First Class, Im starting to think that Michael Fassbender (who played magneto) could make a damn good Harry.   I haven't seen him in anything else to judge his acting range, but visually I think he has the look.

Funny, i Actually suggested him as Thomas based on his rippedness, and long hair in 300.  I actually picture him as thomas when i read.  I picture Valerie Cruz (from the show) as Murphy just because i thought she was great at it.


Disclaimer Edit:  *Assuming the rippedness in 300 wasn't CGI*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 22, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
For Harry he's got the strong but lanky build, and can look a bit rough around the edges when needed.  Cleaned up he could probably look the thomas part, but Im still thinking Matt Bomer has the pretty boy thing working a bit more
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CHAR2056 on June 22, 2011, 02:16:06 PM
I know she's a little to tall at 5'-4" but my favoite actress for Murphy is Sarah Carter.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0141931/

Just watched DOA (Dead or Alive) again and the scene where she fights 20 people on the stairs just screams the fight at CI.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrdkSfGCOKI
The scene I'm talking about starts at 2:15 in the above clip.


Fixed the second link.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on June 22, 2011, 02:35:23 PM
Ahh that makes more sense than the link you posted the first time!  Yeah she looks like she could fit the part.  be interesting to see what she could do with a less cheesy fight choreographer
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: jmg0591 on June 22, 2011, 07:48:28 PM
Gerard Butler would perfect as Michael, i mean come on the dude was Leonidas.......
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on June 22, 2011, 09:27:41 PM
This may have been mentioned before (possibly even by me) but Joe Manganiello could be a really great Harry. He's a bit buff for the role, but he's got the right look and is pretty tall at 6'5"

(http://cdn04.cdn.socialitelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/joe-manganiello-lindsay-pulsipher-true-blood-event-10182010-18-820x1230.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 23, 2011, 03:19:45 AM
Umm, I don't really see Gerard Butler as Thomas.  I think he's a bit too stocky for Thomas.
Thomas looks more like a fashion model.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Orbweaver on June 23, 2011, 04:07:20 AM
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/231/7/f/1_by_Klodi.jpg)
umm ditto

some great pics of her on deviant art... aslo

http://klodi.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=48#/d2ueph7 (http://klodi.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=48#/d2ueph7)

Lea and Maggie Sr?

Dye her hair black, lose the tan, and you have Lara. In a nutshell.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 23, 2011, 05:51:10 AM
Umm, I don't really see Gerard Butler as Thomas.  I think he's a bit too stocky for Thomas.
Thomas looks more like a fashion model.

Huh? who said that i will keel them (only joking)

I think that it definitely should be brought up that Tom Copperstone Blackfield Cruise would make a great harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 23, 2011, 01:43:21 PM
Huh? who said that i will keel them (only joking)

I think that it definitely should be brought up that Tom Copperstone Blackfield Cruise would make a great harry
As the wizard of the Lollipop Guild maybe   ;D   Where then could you find a Murphy that would be a foot shorter than him?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 23, 2011, 04:35:40 PM
GW, are you off on that...again!
That trick..NEVER works! ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 24, 2011, 03:19:02 AM
NO gw.  It is NOT.  GOING.  TO.  HAPPEN!!!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on June 24, 2011, 03:55:28 AM
GW, by the mustache of Freddie Mercury, I command you to stop mentioning Tom Cruise in this thread.

There. If Freddie's 'stache doesn't stop him, nothing will.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on June 24, 2011, 06:11:14 PM
Why are we mentioning Tom Cruise?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 25, 2011, 01:30:03 AM
GW started it.  He's like a little kid poking a hornets nest.  Every now and then he just has to do it again
to get a reaction.  Sigh.  ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on June 25, 2011, 02:07:15 AM
This may have been mentioned before (possibly even by me) but Joe Manganiello could be a really great Harry. He's a bit buff for the role, but he's got the right look and is pretty tall at 6'5"

(http://cdn04.cdn.socialitelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/joe-manganiello-lindsay-pulsipher-true-blood-event-10182010-18-820x1230.jpg)

yummy! he's my new fav.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 25, 2011, 03:21:44 AM
No matter what... I will always vote Matt Bomer for Thomas.

I know he fits because when I first picked up Changes and read the scene where Thomas shows up for the first time, I just about squeed cause my mental imagery showed me Matt Bomer walking out dressed in the character desc. It was like the perfect scene and very vivid. It just clicked. I had to stop reading long enough to just soak it in. I tend to read books and it's like I"m watching tv. I see it all so vividly and Matt just fit.

this. so much.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 25, 2011, 04:11:36 AM
GW, by the mustache of Freddie Mercury, I command you to stop mentioning Tom Cruise in this thread.

There. If Freddie's 'stache doesn't stop him, nothing will.

Who?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on June 25, 2011, 04:35:13 AM
Who?

*dies and is dead*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 25, 2011, 05:24:21 AM
*dies and is dead*

Clear *shocks him back to life with the fact that i was just kidding*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on June 25, 2011, 05:18:49 PM
Okay.

He wouldn't fit anyway.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on June 25, 2011, 07:30:12 PM
Clear *shocks him back to life with the fact that i was just kidding*

You can't just DO THAT to a person! I mean, my 8-year-old cousins could get away wit no knowing who Freddie Mercury is, but then I'd have to have a stern talkin'-to with my uncle about how he is failing his children.

[also, "her"...]
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on June 25, 2011, 11:47:34 PM
You can't just DO THAT to a person! I mean, my 8-year-old cousins could get away wit no knowing who Freddie Mercury is, but then I'd have to have a stern talkin'-to with my uncle about how he is failing his children.

 :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 26, 2011, 05:31:51 AM
btw big Queen fan anyway i just had to mention it SL was probably starting to forget
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on June 26, 2011, 10:44:17 AM
^Like the sig BTW.

Queen, the best listening for a long drive somewhere.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on June 27, 2011, 04:37:53 PM
How about Bryce Dallas Howard for Lilly? Or Maeve, for that matter.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on June 27, 2011, 07:25:51 PM
This may have been mentioned before (possibly even by me) but Joe Manganiello could be a really great Harry. He's a bit buff for the role, but he's got the right look and is pretty tall at 6'5"

(http://cdn04.cdn.socialitelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/joe-manganiello-lindsay-pulsipher-true-blood-event-10182010-18-820x1230.jpg)

Oh!  Me likey.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on June 27, 2011, 07:56:46 PM
^Where do I get me one of those??
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on June 27, 2011, 08:27:14 PM
was just going thorough older pages on this thread

Quote
still say Clancy Brown for Morgan.  That voice, that presence...for god's sake, he's not just the Kurgan! He's Lex FREAKING Luthor!

This is who i picture as Morgan when i read, even though I never realized it. 

also, what about Christian Bale as Kincaid?  big actor for a small part but I can kind of see it.

And I know he's not Hispanic (no shoe throwing please)  But I think it would be hilarious to see Mark Walberg as Carlos, talking about how pretty he is.

Edit:  So i can justify it, I'm thinking of the scenes in the Departed between him and Alec Baldwin, legit laugh out loud stuff right there.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on June 27, 2011, 10:19:32 PM
^Where do I get me one of those??

I know! I'll take real good care of him and take him for walks and make sure he gets fed!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on June 28, 2011, 12:51:46 AM
If we're doing a non-hispanic for Carlos, I still have to go with Joseph Gordon-Levitt.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on June 28, 2011, 01:46:17 AM
After seeing a thing on some Livejournal about casting the Dresden Files, and some other stuff, I've had a few new ideas. The list is just in the order that I thought of them.

Harry=Paul Blackthorne
Bob=Peter Dinklage (The man is a god of snark)
Murphy=Sarah Jane Morris
John Marcone=Mark Harmon
Hendricks=Adam Baldwin
Gard=Uma Thurman or Tricia Helfer
Erlking=Tom Waits
Nicodemus=Timothy Dalton
Peabody=Wallace Shawn
Morgan=Clancy Brown
Mortimer Lindquist=Kurt Fuller
Mother Summer=Hellen Mirren
Mother Winter=Tilda Swinton
Maeve=Mila Kunis
Odin=Rutger Hauer
Merlin=Bill Nighy
Ebenezar=Jeff Bridges
Leanansidhe=Julianne Moore (Christina Hendricks is an acceptable option)
Michael=Jeffrey Dean Morgan
Shiro=George Takei
Butters=Steve Buscemi (The voice James Marsters does for Butters in the audiobooks even sounds kinda like Buscemi)

That's all for now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 28, 2011, 01:52:46 AM
also, what about Christian Bale as Kincaid?  big actor for a small part but I can kind of see it.

You're asking for the same death sentence as GW.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 28, 2011, 06:34:34 AM
You're asking for the same death sentence as GW.

Mentioned that kid like a long time ago
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on June 28, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
ehh its not like Kindcaid has an extremely wide range of emotions, and Bale's got the build for it.  I could have said keanu.  Then you all would be like Whoa!  Kincaid knows Kung Fu
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: TwistedWillow1912 on June 30, 2011, 03:17:42 AM
Me and my friend Jake have always had Hugh Jackman "Van Helsing" style in our minds for Harry. I don't think there's an actor who has really stood out as the absolute perfect Dresden for me, but Jackman comes pretty close.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on June 30, 2011, 06:52:35 AM
Bit too rugged for me.  Which is a shame.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 30, 2011, 04:30:08 PM
ehh its not like Kindcaid has an extremely wide range of emotions, and Bale's got the build for it.  I could have said keanu.  Then you all would be like Whoa!  Kincaid knows Kung Fu

Christian Kane.  Screw Bale, he's made of wood.  And Reeves ruined a perfect Dracula movie.  Neither one belongs anywhere near this movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on June 30, 2011, 04:34:32 PM
Actually i like that suggestion Warden.  (And I thought it was obvious Keanu was a joke)

You're right though, that movie was great except for Reeves' terrible accent/acting
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on June 30, 2011, 09:34:59 PM
Ooh, ooh, I've got the perfect actor for Harry!  Neil Patrick Harris!

I mean, seriously, doesn't Harry Dresden just pop into mind whenever you see NPH?!

Anyone?  Anyone?

I'll just go twiddle my thumbs and whistle tunelessly over here in my corner...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on June 30, 2011, 09:39:00 PM
Where's Howl when you want him??

*Waits expectantly*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on June 30, 2011, 09:50:30 PM
On a more serious note, I'm sure it has been mentioned before in this thread (no way am I gonna look through 260 some odd pages), but I think Ryan Reynolds would be perfect for the smart @ssery that is Harry, but I so cannot picture him physically playing the part.  Maybe if it was an animated movie...maybe.

I dunno, none of the actors on the poll really do it for me.  I thought Paul Blackthorne did a great job on the show (ducks head and waits for the flaming monkey excrement to come raining down), and he's probably the closest to the mental picture I have of Harry.  That being said, I saw the show before I read the books, so I'm sure that has something to do with it.

Hmm, I'll have to think about this one...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: co99p on July 01, 2011, 02:47:09 AM
Can't you just picture Ryan Stiles as Harry?
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x366/co99p/webposts/Ryan_Stiles.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on July 01, 2011, 02:54:59 AM
you want a slap? :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 01, 2011, 03:07:33 AM
Can't you just picture Ryan Stiles as Harry?
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x366/co99p/webposts/Ryan_Stiles.jpg)


Ryan Stiles has the height--and actually looks the height, that's for sure.  Although he's a mite old...and I don't think I can see him in the duster...and I don't think Harry is known for wearing outlandish shoes...

"And in unrelated news, to spice the character up from the book, we're casting Colin Mochrie as Mac!"

"And in further unrelated news, we're also casting Wayne Brady as Sanya!"

Ya know, can't keep things too close to the book...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: co99p on July 01, 2011, 03:14:49 AM
And Drew Cary as Marcone?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 01, 2011, 06:18:33 AM
Mike Mcshane as Mort.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: co99p on July 01, 2011, 09:33:15 PM
MOUSE!
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x366/co99p/webposts/mouse.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 02, 2011, 10:38:34 PM
(http://www.londontheatredirect.com/img/news/MARCWARRENTOSTARINCOOLHANDLUKEATTHEALDWYCH.jpg)

Madrigal Raith?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on July 02, 2011, 11:43:41 PM
(http://www.londontheatredirect.com/img/news/MARCWARRENTOSTARINCOOLHANDLUKEATTHEALDWYCH.jpg)

Madrigal Raith?

Yeah, he'll work.

Also, as an alternate for the Erlking (Tom Waits is my first choice)-Ron Perlman.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 02, 2011, 11:58:38 PM
I had Ron down as Kinkaid. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on July 03, 2011, 02:33:41 AM
Summer Glau as Justine?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 04, 2011, 10:24:20 PM
And Drew Cary as Marcone?

I may have to shoot you for that.

Summer Glau as Justine Luccio 2.0?

FIFY!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 04, 2011, 10:25:52 PM
I may have to shoot you for that.


Lmao!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on July 04, 2011, 10:26:52 PM
I've always seen Summer Glau as an older Ivy, myself.  :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on July 04, 2011, 11:13:35 PM
I had Ron down as Kinkaid. 

Ron's too big to be kincaid. Kincaid's supposed to have the build of a swimmer, not someone who would just punch you in the face, or stab you with a sword.

Also, after seeing X-Men First Class, I think Michael Fassbender might make a good harry. He can disguise his accent pretty well, and he's a great actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: co99p on July 04, 2011, 11:36:24 PM
I recently saw Unbreakable and it got be thinking  - Bruce Willis is looking like he's feeling the miles - how about him as Morgan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Aerus Dar on July 05, 2011, 12:28:35 AM
I could see Willis as Morgan.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 05, 2011, 12:52:11 AM
I still got him plugged as Mac.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on July 05, 2011, 04:41:35 AM
For the last time (probably not), CLANCY BROWN IS MORGAN.
(http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/10/1/2/0/53500542452973439.jpg)

Compare that to this.

(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs43/PRE/f/2009/067/9/c/Stormfront_3_page_1_by_ardian_syaf.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: co99p on July 05, 2011, 12:00:43 PM
For the last time (probably not), CLANCY BROWN IS MORGAN.

Yeah - he would do a good Morgan

I could see him as Hendricks too
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on July 05, 2011, 12:13:50 PM
I still got him plugged as Mac.

2nded
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CHAR2056 on July 05, 2011, 04:25:00 PM
Ron's too big to be kincaid. Kincaid's supposed to have the build of a swimmer, not someone who would just punch you in the face, or stab you with a sword.


How about Jason Statham as Kincaid.  He was a Olympic Diver.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005458/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 05, 2011, 05:39:12 PM
I'll be posting my best guess at casting all of the main and recurring characters (36 of 'em, if my count is correct) a bit later on, once I've got links to pictures of each person, but how about Zachary Levi for Harry?  He's almost got the height (I think he's 6'4"), he's the right age, and can do the snark.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 05, 2011, 05:41:07 PM
How about Jason Statham as Kincaid.  He was a Olympic Diver.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005458/
Hmmmmm, I like.

But then if we are looking for Champion Swimmers:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Rolf_Harris.jpg/220px-Rolf_Harris.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 05, 2011, 06:31:26 PM
Yeah, he'll work.

Also, as an alternate for the Erlking (Tom Waits is my first choice)-Ron Perlman.
Definitely fits the fairy look, but Im not sure he works for the Erlking.  The Erlking is supposed to have a somewhat lopsided, rugged sort of good looks, reflecting his Goblin nature. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 05, 2011, 10:07:40 PM
Aight, here're my series casting ideas.  I've only drawn actors and actresses from tv shows and movies that I have watched, so I'm sure there are plenty of suitable other members of the acting community that I haven't named here.  In addition, this is not a recommendation of their acting talents, or lack thereof, but rather just a recommendation of how they appear in my head.

Harry: Zachary Levi (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1157048/)
Murphy: I'm drawing a complete blank on who would fit her!   Selma Blair? (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004757/)  If Amanda Seyfried  (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1086543/) were 10-15 years older, I'd give her my nod.
Lea: Kate Beckinsale (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000295/)
Elaine: Lake Bell (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1128572/) I haven't read the books in a while and don't remember what she's supposed to look like...
Thomas: Matt Bomer (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0093589/)
Susan: Valerie Cruz (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1395858/) I thought she did a great job as Murphy in the show
Morgan: Stephen Lang (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002332/)
Michael: Adam Baldwin (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000284/) or Liam Neeson (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000553/)
Charity: Kari Matchett (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0558182/) or Elisabeth Rohm (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0737533/)
Molly: Abbie Cornish (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0180411/) She's not tall enough, though
Fr. Forthill: Ron Rifkin (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0726492/)
Sanya: Taye Diggs (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004875/)
Shiro: I'm drawing a complete blank
Lara: Yvonne Strahovski (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2088803/)
Mac: Ian McElhenney (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0568400/) He's a bit too old, though
Nic: Ray Wise (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936403/) Can't remember Nic's description...
Eb: Ron Donachie (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0231871/) or James Cosmo (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0181920) Both are too tall, though
Injun Joe: Russell Means (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0575184/)
Merlin: Julian Glover (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002103/)
Ancient Mai: No clue
The Gatekeeper: No clue
Cowl: This guy (http://files.sharenator.com/emperor_palpatine_RE_Just_a_bit_of_good_music_for_your_ears-s400x279-166019.jpg)
Marcone: Edward Norton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001570/) He sold me with American History X
Gard: Tricia Helfer (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1065454/) or Ali Larter (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005123/)
Hendricks: Rory McCann (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0564920/) He's not huge enough, though.  As an alternative, John Cena (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1078479/)
Lash: Kristen Bell (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0068338/) I just feel "eh" about this one
Mab: Sophie Marceau (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000521/) Not entirely sure how old Mab or Lea are supposed to appear
Butters: Breckin Meyer (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005227/) or Josh Zuckerman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0958430/)
Ivy: Drawing a blank--don't watch too many shows/movies with kids/teenagers in them
Kincaid: Andy Whitfield (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1813878/). Or, if Andy's cancer is still an issue, Christian Slater (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000225/)
Luccio (post DB):  Lauren Cohan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1659348/)
Billy: No idea
Georgia: Amy Acker (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0009918/)
Maeve: Amanda Crew (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0958430/)
Lily: Hayden Panettiere (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0659363/)
Mort: David H. Lawrence XVII (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0492712/)
Bob: This guy (http://the-dresdenfiles.deviantart.com/gallery/27070279#/d1sgw8i)
Mister: This guy (http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/viewsingleimage.html?mode=singleimage&handle=mckTXaws&number=6)
Mouse: This guy (http://www.mostfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/largest-dogs-Caucasian-Mountain-Dog.jpg)

Lemme know if I missed anyone of significance!

EDIT: I filled in a few of the missing folks and cleaned up the formatting.  In addition, Famke Janssen (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000463/) and Bridget Moynahan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005256/)pop out at me, but I haven't a clue who I'd like to cast them as.  Maybe alternates for Lea and Mab or Charity?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: samrvs on July 05, 2011, 10:12:49 PM
I tried watching a few episodes of the Syfy series and have to admit that I was extremely underwhelmed.  Even though I am just discovering Jim Butcher's work, I would really like to see someone transfer his sense of humor onto the screen. 

My blog, With Both Hands and a Flashlight:  http://withbothhandsandaflashlight.blogspot.com/ (http://withbothhandsandaflashlight.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 06, 2011, 10:53:21 AM
I tried watching a few episodes of the Syfy series and have to admit that I was extremely underwhelmed.  Even though I am just discovering Jim Butcher's work, I would really like to see someone transfer his sense of humor onto the screen. 

My blog, With Both Hands and a Flashlight:  http://withbothhandsandaflashlight.blogspot.com/ (http://withbothhandsandaflashlight.blogspot.com/)

I think it would be important for any future Harry actor to have at least some sort of comedic capabilities.  And not just Harry, but have the other main folks have comedic capabilities.  The humor is part of what makes the books so unique for me--serious fantasies are a dime a dozen, and the ones that can successfully capture that blend of seriousness and comedy are much fewer and far between.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 06, 2011, 04:30:01 PM
Um...ADAM Baldwin?  For MICHAEL?  Methinks you got a few screws loose, my friend.  Baldwin's an enforcer, not a warrior and father.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 06, 2011, 04:32:16 PM
I think it would be important for any future Harry actor to have at least some sort of comedic capabilities.  And not just Harry, but have the other main folks have comedic capabilities.  The humor is part of what makes the books so unique for me--serious fantasies are a dime a dozen, and the ones that can successfully capture that blend of seriousness and comedy are much fewer and far between.
I always liked a quote from Joss Whedon I heard once where he said he always tries to cast comic for dramatic roles, because comedy is the harder one.  
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 06, 2011, 04:40:14 PM
Um...ADAM Baldwin?  For MICHAEL?  Methinks you got a few screws loose, my friend.  Baldwin's an enforcer, not a warrior and father.

As I said, I just picked actors and actresses for how they appear, not necessarily how they would be in the role.  In this case, big guy in his late 40s/early 50s who can throw down with the best of them...and do it while quoting Scripture and whatnot in Latin...

That being said, I can see AB playing Michael.  He's big, the right age, and can do action.  No clue about the rest of the stuff--sure, it would be a departure from his normal role, but I don't see any reason why he couldn't pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 06, 2011, 04:44:44 PM
I always liked a quote from Joss Whedon I heard once where he said he always tries to cast comic for dramatic roles, because comedy is the harder one.  
Yeah.  I'm not saying that the cast of The Life and Times of Harry Dresden (aka, the Dresden Files) would need to be stand up comedians, but that the actors need to be able to give that little burst of humor that is their trademark in the books.  Anyone can do drama--if you've got a poker face, you're good enough.  But how many actors/actresses out there can do drama and slip something at least vaguely comedic in the middle of the drama?  I've seen plenty of folks onscreen who can't do that for the life of them.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on July 06, 2011, 06:24:06 PM
Not Alec Baldwin for Michael.  Michael has to inspire confidence and trust on first sight - that's not Baldwin.
We had this discussion somewhere about 40 pages ago I think or maybe 30.
Paul Gross for Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 06, 2011, 06:25:17 PM
Not Alec Baldwin for Michael.  Michael has to inspire confidence and trust on first sight - that's not Baldwin.

No, don't want Alec either.  Neither Baldwin says "Faithful Protector" to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 06, 2011, 06:37:08 PM
I'll agree no ALEC Baldwin.  Ugh, I can't picture Michael with that perpetual smirk that Alec Baldwin always seems to have...

As far as no ADAM Baldwin, y'all are quite obviously delusional!  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on July 06, 2011, 06:44:05 PM
Be nice habu.  We may dislike someone's choice but we don't go after them.
Except maybe Grey Warden and his periodic efforts to stir the pot by putting Tom Cruise up.  (Deep sigh)
(I think it's GW.  Oh goodie - senior moment!  ::))
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 06, 2011, 06:44:56 PM
It's fine, snowy.  I agree that ADAM Baldwin should be there.  Just not as Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 06, 2011, 06:50:03 PM
Be nice habu.  We may dislike someone's choice but we don't go after them.
Except maybe Grey Warden and his periodic efforts to stir the pot by putting Tom Cruise up.  (Deep sigh)
(I think it's GW.  Oh goodie - senior moment!  ::))

My apologies if I offend anyone--my comments are usually meant to be firmly tongue in cheek.

On the other hand, ya know, if Harry
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, then Tom Cruise would be a great choice!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 06, 2011, 06:53:40 PM
It's fine, snowy.  I agree that ADAM Baldwin should be there.  Just not as Michael.

Alternatively, I could see Adam Baldwin as Morgan, although (unless he does some pretty serious makeup and acting changes) that would prelude him being Michael.  Hmm, I'd have to think about who could play Michael in that case, since of the actors I've seen, I thought Baldwin was my best bet at Michael.
Choices, choices, choices....

EDIT: Duh, I already put Neeson as my Michael alternate.  I'd have no problem with him being Michael, as long as he doesn't have to grow long hair, wear a robe, and have Amoracchius (sp)
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.  Unless that's the key twist in the plot of Ghost Story...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on July 06, 2011, 06:56:40 PM
Naw, Morgan doesn't smirk - snarl maybe - smirk no!
Morgan has to look as Indy says - "It's not the years it's the miles!"
And Morgan has a century's worth of miles.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 06, 2011, 06:58:54 PM
Naw, Morgan doesn't smirk - snarl maybe - smirk no!
Morgan has to look as Indy says - "It's not the years it's the miles!"
And Morgan has a century's worth of miles.

Have you seen Adam Baldwin on Chuck?  He's got the snarl down cold!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on July 06, 2011, 07:02:45 PM
Sorry, still no for me habu.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 06, 2011, 07:03:59 PM
then Tom Cruise would be a great choice!

You're asking to share GW's fate.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 06, 2011, 07:08:06 PM
It's ok, snowleopard.  I know that (besides me) no one is perfect, so I won't hold your obviously imperfect opinion against you... ;)

What I was going for, both with Michael and Morgan, was finding actors I'm familiar with who are older, are physically imposing (big and tall), and who I could see as either of the two men without having to squint my eyes and look sideways at them to get them to fit into my mental image of the character.

Facially, I think Neeson would be pretty good as Michael, but, although he is tall, he just doesn't seem that physically imposing to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 06, 2011, 07:16:27 PM
Facially, I think Neeson would be pretty good as Michael, but, although he is tall, he just doesn't seem that physically imposing to me.
Watch some of his more recent action movies, it might help.  He hasnt lost much from his roots as a boxer. 

I just don't see Adam Baldwin as either one.  He strikes me as too young for Morgan, whom i see as older, more weathered, and more angular around the face to compliment the beard.  For Michael I think he could work on pure physical build, but I have serious doubts on his ability to portray the humble righteousness of Michael, or the quiet kindness.  Not saying he can't, but I haven't seen him in any role even close.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on July 06, 2011, 07:16:35 PM
Kevin Durand as Hendricks?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 06, 2011, 07:23:18 PM
Kevin Durand as Hendricks?
I like it!  He can do the mindless vacant look, but can break the image when he needs to.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 06, 2011, 07:37:57 PM
Watch some of his more recent action movies, it might help.  He hasnt lost much from his roots as a boxer.  

I just don't see Adam Baldwin as either one.  He strikes me as too young for Morgan, whom i see as older, more weathered, and more angular around the face to compliment the beard.  For Michael I think he could work on pure physical build, but I have serious doubts on his ability to portray the humble righteousness of Michael, or the quiet kindness.  Not saying he can't, but I haven't seen him in any role even close.

Yeah, I was trying to stay away from picking actors and actresses based on both their physical characteristics and acting chops, as that would be a heck of a lot harder to cast all 36 folks from my limited knowledge of the acting folks I'm familar with.

I think the last thing I saw Neeson in was Phantom Menace, so I can't say anything about his more recent movies (besides being the voice of Aslan in the Chronicles of Narnia movies).

I'll give you the point about Morgan.

From the physical standpoint, it was kinda frustrating for me to figure out these two--I know of several actors who I thought would have made a great Michael or Morgan at earlier points in their career, but are now either too old, not old enough, or have packed on a few too many pounds.

How about Tom Selleck (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000633/) for Michael or Morgan?  He's more weathered and older, although given the choice, I'd cast him as Michael instead (barring Neeson)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 06, 2011, 07:39:35 PM
I like it!  He can do the mindless vacant look, but can break the image when he needs to.

Ah hah!  That's who I was trying to think of! When I was trying to cast Hendricks, someone kept slipping my mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 06, 2011, 07:40:14 PM
Just finished watching Las Vegas and tried Blue Bloods, so mebby I can see that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on July 06, 2011, 07:41:13 PM
Actually Selleck would be a good choice for Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 06, 2011, 07:42:43 PM
Actually Selleck would be a good choice for Michael.

If Michael trades in his white Ford quad cab truck for a red Ferrari, I'm sold!

Now, if we can just get JB to move the series to Hawaii...  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on July 06, 2011, 07:48:05 PM
Just had a wondrous thought.
At some point Harry ends up in Hawaii where he runs into Pele who likes him because he tends to set things on fire.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 06, 2011, 07:57:04 PM
And if the series does move to Hawaii, maybe we can finally find out
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 06, 2011, 08:00:05 PM
Yeah, I was trying to stay away from picking actors and actresses based on both their physical characteristics and acting chops, as that would be a heck of a lot harder to cast all 36 folks from my limited knowledge of the acting folks I'm familar with.

I think the last thing I saw Neeson in was Phantom Menace, so I can't say anything about his more recent movies (besides being the voice of Aslan in the Chronicles of Narnia movies).

I'll give you the point about Morgan.

From the physical standpoint, it was kinda frustrating for me to figure out these two--I know of several actors who I thought would have made a great Michael or Morgan at earlier points in their career, but are now either too old, not old enough, or have packed on a few too many pounds.

How about Tom Selleck (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000633/) for Michael or Morgan?  He's more weathered and older, although given the choice, I'd cast him as Michael instead (barring Neeson)
Check out Taken and Unknown, both are fantastic.  And A-team was decent in a fun popcorn flick sort of way, but shows him being badass at least.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on July 06, 2011, 08:33:57 PM
Taken was an awesomely disturbing movie and make me never want to have daughters. 

That said, he is great in that and A-team, didn't see unknown
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on July 06, 2011, 08:44:00 PM
And if the series does move to Hawaii, maybe we can finally find out
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There's a WoJ that Jim was planning a story-story about Hawaii. Not sure if he's still doing it or not.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 07, 2011, 11:16:47 PM
Hmm, possibly Amber Heard (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1720028/) for Molly?

She's closer to the height from the books than Abbie Cornish, but not as solid...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Navycrewbrother on July 08, 2011, 01:34:07 AM
I always seen Amber Heard with the come-hither look on her face and can never imagine that expression on Molly.  I just started watching Smallville on DVD and think Allison Mack (plays Chloe) has the right look (peppy, bright, cute but not model-hot, ahem...well endowed.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 08, 2011, 01:41:07 AM
I always seen Amber Heard with the come-hither look on her face and can never imagine that expression on Molly.  I just started watching Smallville on DVD and think Allison Mack (plays Chloe) has the right look (peppy, bright, cute but not model-hot, ahem...well endowed.)

Hmm, never seen watched Smallville.  Still, there's absolutely nothing wrong with hypothetically casting a "well endowed" actress as Molly...  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on July 08, 2011, 03:38:15 PM
I just started watching Criminal Minds, and after seeing Amber Heard in an episode of that, I think she'd make a good Molly. And she looks young-ish enough to pass for 17 or so in Proven Guilty.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 08, 2011, 03:51:00 PM
I've seen Amber Heard in something before, although I can't recall what it was.  I just saw a trailer yesterday for some horror movie that she's the lead in, which made me remember her.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: justafan2 on July 09, 2011, 09:46:10 PM
Nick Mancuso around about the time of the Matrix would have been a good Marcone. Probably somebody already brought that up.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BobForPresident on July 10, 2011, 05:52:11 PM
A really great DF casting page I found: http://thefaust.wordpress.com/category/detectivesmysteries/ (http://thefaust.wordpress.com/category/detectivesmysteries/)

I'm pretty sure a lot of you have seen it. But I still dug it. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 11, 2011, 02:37:54 AM
A really great DF casting page I found: http://thefaust.wordpress.com/category/detectivesmysteries/ (http://thefaust.wordpress.com/category/detectivesmysteries/)

I'm pretty sure a lot of you have seen it. But I still dug it. :)

Huh, I hadn't seen that one before.

Umm, some of the actors/actresses they bandy about for the various characters are like...uh, what?

Clive Owen as Harry?
Elisabeth Rohm as a 5'8" Murphy?
Scott Summers as Thomas?  When did this become an X-Men crossover?!
Johnny Depp as the voice of Bob?
Nathan Fillion as Michael/Harry?
Ryan Reynolds as Marcone?
Viggo Mortensen as Thomas?

Not entirely sure how familiar some of those folks were/are with the characters in the books...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 11, 2011, 04:54:43 AM
Im hopping on the ryan renolds for marcone train love it
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on July 11, 2011, 06:49:32 AM
Ok, at this point I think Grey Warden is just trolling us.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 11, 2011, 03:30:35 PM
After discussing casting with my sister, she recommended David Tennant as Harry.  Even though I love him to death as the Doctor, I can't see him as Harry (notwithstanding the height difference).  
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 11, 2011, 05:56:36 PM
Ok, at this point I think Grey Warden is just trolling us.

Just be thankful GW has dropped the TC references.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 12, 2011, 04:17:58 AM
sorry we really really need a sarcasm font


btw what is TC Turn Coat do you think i get all of my ideas from that book?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 12, 2011, 06:15:33 AM
sorry we really really need a sarcasm font


btw what is TC Turn Coat do you think i get all of my ideas from that book?

Nah, really?   ;)

Well, I thought you got all of your information from the Junior encyclopedia of the Universe TBH.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on July 12, 2011, 07:01:18 AM
For the role of Waldo Butters:

(http://www.knowledgerush.com/wiki_image/f/fd/Butters_South_Park.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Gnpwdrtreason on July 12, 2011, 07:14:40 AM
James Marsters? C'mon after hearing his voice I just can't imagine anyone else, he's already got the character down
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 12, 2011, 02:53:07 PM
mentioned but he is too old i still say Ryan for harry though especially after seeing the tv show that he was in with Nathan Fillion
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 12, 2011, 03:36:51 PM
Wow, this poll brings back memories. It's been months since I've been here.

Originally this poll was mine in another thread but then merged here, I wish someone would delete it and start a new one though, I think it's a little dated now. Surely by now all the Firefly fans have gotten over Nathan Fillion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Linnemir on July 13, 2011, 02:45:19 AM
Wow, this poll brings back memories. It's been months since I've been here.

Originally this poll was mine in another thread but then merged here, I wish someone would delete it and start a new one though, I think it's a little dated now. Surely by now all the Firefly fans have gotten over Nathan Fillion.

Heresy! Blasphemy! Nathan rules!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on July 13, 2011, 02:26:09 PM
Wow, this poll brings back memories. It's been months since I've been here.

Originally this poll was mine in another thread but then merged here, I wish someone would delete it and start a new one though, I think it's a little dated now. Surely by now all the Firefly fans have gotten over Nathan Fillion.

Hey, there are Castle fans on here too!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on July 13, 2011, 02:59:17 PM
Nathan 4-EVA!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 13, 2011, 05:59:57 PM
^Answer your question?   :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 13, 2011, 07:17:23 PM
I was originally pulling for Clive as Harry.  I got outvoted, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 13, 2011, 10:14:08 PM
I still think he would be awesome and for  nathan fillion fans two guys and a girl is a great tv show with him in it from season 2 to the end
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lothy on July 14, 2011, 06:20:36 PM
Ha ha! I didn't realize there was a thread about this! Awesome that so many ppl think like me - Nathan Fillion ALL THE WAY!!! He's already proven he can pull off a brilliant Wise Ass to Cop ratio in Castle.

I aim to misbehave. Zachary Quinto would be my second choice.

And no, no, and HELL BLOODY NO to Hugh Jackman. Just no. Nononononono. That would be the Dresden Files of my nightmares. I love Gerard Butler but imo he would be a bad choice, I have never seen him pull of wiseass. Same thing for Clive Owen, I just can't see him in it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on July 15, 2011, 04:04:43 AM
Fillion is my pick for michael. I'm sorry, but if anybody gets the typecast of reassuring paternal type that can surprise you by kicking @$$...
Which is why I also see Zachary Quinto as the snarky-grouchy-nerdy Harry. Go watch him as spock and some of his funnier sylar scenes, I'm serious.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on July 15, 2011, 12:29:33 PM
Yeha if Quinto was taller I would definitely go with him!  He was good as Sylar and Spock!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 15, 2011, 01:58:12 PM
Quinto would be my second choice, Lee Pace is my first.

But if you've never seen Pushing Daisies you wouldn't understand.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Orbweaver on July 16, 2011, 11:35:32 PM
Ha ha! I didn't realize there was a thread about this! Awesome that so many ppl think like me - Nathan Fillion ALL THE WAY!!! He's already proven he can pull off a brilliant Wise Ass to Cop ratio in Castle.

I aim to misbehave. Zachary Quinto would be my second choice.

And no, no, and HELL BLOODY NO to Hugh Jackman. Just no. Nononononono. That would be the Dresden Files of my nightmares. I love Gerard Butler but imo he would be a bad choice, I have never seen him pull of wiseass. Same thing for Clive Owen, I just can't see him in it.

I can see Jackman doing a part as one of the Denarians (NOT Nicodemus.) Thing is he might not be willing to take less than a lead role in the films.

As for who should have the honor and pleasure of playing TDF's Denarian boss? John Glover. Hands down, he has the style, smooth voice, and soulless, calm, calculating look down pat.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on July 17, 2011, 05:28:58 PM
As for who should have the honor and pleasure of playing TDF's Denarian boss? John Glover. Hands down, he has the style, smooth voice, and soulless, calm, calculating look down pat.

WOAH! John Glover is a good Nicodemus. He might make a good liver-spots too (my first choice for Nicodemus will always be Gary Oldman.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 17, 2011, 06:50:20 PM
I still say Jeffery Donoven from burn notice would make a good nicodemous
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Orbweaver on July 18, 2011, 03:32:45 AM
I still say Jeffery Donoven from burn notice would make a good nicodemous

He probably would, except that I'm going to have difficulty immersing myself in the fact that he's a cold, calculating, heartless bastard who wants to remake Humanity's perceptions of him after most of the burn notice episodes. That character kind of sticks like a needle on a phonograph in my mind. "When you're a spy, and you want to ensure the demise of the human population, it's best to cut out the tongues of your minions and then provide a nice dental plan."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 18, 2011, 07:45:14 AM
He probably would, except that I'm going to have difficulty immersing myself in the fact that he's a cold, calculating, heartless bastard who wants to remake Humanity's perceptions of him after most of the burn notice episodes. That character kind of sticks like a needle on a phonograph in my mind. "When you're a spy, and you want to ensure the demise of the human population, it's best to cut out the tongues of your minions and then provide a nice dental plan."
lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 18, 2011, 12:44:10 PM
He probably would, except that I'm going to have difficulty immersing myself in the fact that he's a cold, calculating, heartless bastard who wants to remake Humanity's perceptions of him after most of the burn notice episodes. That character kind of sticks like a needle on a phonograph in my mind. "When you're a spy, and you want to ensure the demise of the human population, it's best to cut out the tongues of your minions and then provide a nice dental plan."
Lol, thats awesome.  If it helps you can watch the old pretender episodes where he is the evil pretender/psychotic serial killer.  He can definitely do the veneer of polite while behind his eyes he is figuring out how to best crush your sanity...   Ah, the classics. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on July 18, 2011, 01:14:07 PM
The episode where he plays "El Diablo" on Burn Notice was awesome too.  he's definitely got that cold calculating thing down. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on July 18, 2011, 05:11:56 PM
Oh, God, yes, for this! Jeffery Donovan is kickass.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 18, 2011, 05:20:59 PM
WOAH! John Glover is a good Nicodemus. He might make a good liver-spots too (my first choice for Nicodemus will always be Gary Oldman.)


Gary Oldman was my first choice also, based off of Zorg from Fifth Element, Dracula, and Serius Black.

Robert Kneeper was a distant second for lack of better choices that fit the look i have in my head.

John Glover does however have the look that I picture, so I could definitely agree with that choice too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 18, 2011, 05:23:57 PM
As for Murphey, over time I am beggining to think that maybe Kristen Bell could pull it off.
(http://www.kissandmakeup.tv/Kristen%20Bell%207.jpg)

When I had made my orignal cast some years ago, I did not pick her because at the time I didn't think she could pull off the tough chick, but now I think maybe she could, not for any particular role she has done recently but she definitely has the cute petite blond look that I picture for Murphey.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 18, 2011, 07:58:38 PM
The episode where he plays "El Diablo" on Burn Notice was awesome too.  he's definitely got that cold calculating thing down. 

*snaps his fingers and a car blows up* now are we in business?


i love that episode
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on July 18, 2011, 08:03:50 PM
*snaps his fingers and a car blows up* now are we in business?


i love that episode

Just for that episode I'd cast him as Nic. Was a brilliant episode ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 18, 2011, 08:09:40 PM
Just for that episode I'd cast him as Nic. Was a brilliant episode ;D

lol yeah he could pull it off easy in fact hes what i think of when i picture nicodmous while reading the books now
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on July 18, 2011, 08:21:16 PM
Personally, this was my selling point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M2FrnlNH9s
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: talktotheHand on July 18, 2011, 08:43:30 PM
He wins my Nic Vote.

Also side note...I should be watching this show.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on July 18, 2011, 09:05:29 PM
He wins my Nic Vote.

Also side note...I should be watching this show.

Yes you should.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Orbweaver on July 18, 2011, 11:27:15 PM
Personally, this was my selling point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M2FrnlNH9s


I cracked up at the slow-motion walk. His haircut that day probably had something to do with it, as it was stuck straight up off the front of his face.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 19, 2011, 03:47:48 AM
 I love that episode
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MoSeS on July 21, 2011, 02:17:09 PM
I think I found my McAnally.

Jonathan Banks
(http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Mike.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 21, 2011, 02:30:14 PM
Actually he has the lopsided facial features Id think would go great for the Erlking!  Not to mention a certain air of menace...

PS I know its probably just one of those standard photo backdrops, but it really looks like his head is smoking...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on July 21, 2011, 05:33:16 PM
No, no. Tom Waits is the Erlking. Because, well, he's TOM WAITS.

Also, what about Bruce Campbell for Carmichael?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 21, 2011, 10:37:24 PM
No, no. Tom Waits is the Erlking. Because, well, he's TOM WAITS.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on July 22, 2011, 03:11:06 AM
Out of all the people listed above, Zachary Quinto would easily be my first choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 22, 2011, 05:53:53 PM
Ooh, ooh!

I know who would make a great Murphy!  She's got the "Tiny, but fierce!" thing down pat, although she might be a *bit* young for the role.  Bah, the makeup folks can do wonders... ;D

(http://www.scifiupdates.com/main/images/stories/automatic/0/arya_stark.jpg)

EDIT: That is Maisie Williams, who plays Arya Stark in HBO's Game of Thrones
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 22, 2011, 06:25:15 PM
and that is...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 22, 2011, 06:30:00 PM
Uhh, yeah, the name might come in handy...

Edited my post to include it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on July 22, 2011, 08:45:22 PM
Not even make-up could make it right...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on July 24, 2011, 08:23:59 PM
She might fit in a few years. (lets say 5) assuming she doesn't get much taller, or turn into a bombshell or something. However, as long as we're tapping the GoT well I would say Rory McCann (Sandor Clegane (The Hound)) as Lloyd slate. Sophie Turner (Sansa Stark) as Lily. Emelia Clarke (Danerys Targaryen) as Justine. And Esme Bianco (Ros) as Maeve. Also Jim should write a dwarf into the series so that the peerless Peter Dinklage (Tyrion Lannister) can be in there somewhere (or he could be the voice of bob.) Overall the Game of Thrones adaptation has been a triumph, perfectly cast and matching the tone of the novel well. Best TV show of the year by miles.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 24, 2011, 10:16:05 PM
She might fit in a few years. (lets say 5) assuming she doesn't get much taller, or turn into a bombshell or something. However, as long as we're tapping the GoT well I would say Rory McCann (Sandor Clegane (The Hound)) as Lloyd slate. Sophie Turner (Sansa Stark) as Lily. Emelia Clarke (Danerys Targaryen) as Justine. And Esme Bianco (Ros) as Maeve. Also Jim should write a dwarf into the series so that the peerless Peter Dinklage can be in there somewhere (or he could be the voice of bob.) Overall the Game of Thrones adaptation has been a triumph, perfectly cast and matching the tone of the novel well. Best TV show of the year by miles.

^This.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on July 25, 2011, 12:15:27 AM
I second the casting of Peter Dinklage as the voice of Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on July 25, 2011, 05:29:17 AM
I second the casting of Peter Dinklage as the voice of Bob.

I always thought Jim Butcher should be the voice of Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on July 25, 2011, 03:37:23 PM
JB HAS to be the voice of Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 25, 2011, 07:16:16 PM
JB voice of bob i think that there should be an election for all of these spots a nation wide one it can go on the next ballot
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on July 25, 2011, 10:50:07 PM
Ooh, ooh!

I know who would make a great Murphy!  She's got the "Tiny, but fierce!" thing down pat, although she might be a *bit* young for the role.  Bah, the makeup folks can do wonders... ;D

(http://www.scifiupdates.com/main/images/stories/automatic/0/arya_stark.jpg)

EDIT: That is Maisie Williams, who plays Arya Stark in HBO's Game of Thrones

Murphy is 29 in SmF.  Maybe in 15 years. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 25, 2011, 11:40:26 PM
Murphy is 29 in SmF.  Maybe in 15 years. :D

Well, you know how they can make a 30 year old actor look like they're 90 years old with makeup, and how they can have 30 year old actors play teenagers...so why not a 14 year old play a 30-40 year old?  I mean, it's not like the role would be difficult for a kid to play, right?  Heck, gussy up a kid, give them the appropriate amount of makeup, and any 14 year old can play a 30-40 year old police lieutenant/sergeant with the necessary gravitas!   :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 26, 2011, 09:56:15 AM
not DF but i know that

Denzel Washington for Valiar Marcus
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on July 26, 2011, 12:23:24 PM
newest choice for Lea

(http://e2.thpo.net/aR/cDCDCDC/d8/e4/hM8/iACI/r1/s1/t4/wG4/z23/elena-satine.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 26, 2011, 03:44:35 PM
I still prefer Klodi Monsoon, but she's good too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on July 27, 2011, 06:13:03 AM
After reading GS, I would have to go with Kurt Fuller for Mort.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Darkling on July 27, 2011, 07:13:41 AM

There's a cheesy movie on scifi right now called Beauty and the Beasts and the woman who plays the sorceress Lady Hellena looks nearly exactly how I imagine Lara Raith. Sorry I don't have any pictures of her.


 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ratradon on July 27, 2011, 07:16:06 PM
JAMES MARSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on July 27, 2011, 11:28:46 PM
For what???
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vikermac on July 27, 2011, 11:31:56 PM
I like James Marsters for Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on July 27, 2011, 11:36:21 PM
I think the general consensus is that JB is supposed to do Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vikermac on July 27, 2011, 11:38:53 PM
I'll get back to you after I hear JB at his signing on Friday.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on July 29, 2011, 12:09:54 AM
After watching him in The Wire and Luther, I really think Idris Elba would make a good Sanya, but he's a bit old for the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 01, 2011, 02:52:10 AM
Rashida Jones as Susan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cheesepusher on August 01, 2011, 10:51:01 AM
Here are some of my choices (I may be horribly wrong on some of them but its my head and it pictures what it wants)

Harry: David Tennant (Have you seen him in fright nights previews?)
Murphy: Kirsten Nelson
Michael: I picture Joe Manganiello but I am not 100% here. If you mixed him with Sean Bean it'd be perfect
Marcone: I may be off my rocker but Ralph Fiennes
Butters: Neil Grayston
Billy: Shawn Ashmore
Mac: I saw it mentioned on here and now I completely picture Adam Baldwin with some make up and a bald cap.
Captain Nicklehead: Has to be Gary Oldman, I saw that on here and was like "YES, that is what I see in my head already"
Ebeneazer McCoy: John Mahoney
Thomas: I have no clue, I kind of comic book characters when It hink of the Raithes in my head so good luck with that.
Mouse: A Lion you've dyed and taught how to bark.
Molly: Maybe a blonde Addison Timlin?

Anyway just some guesses I am sure if I wasn't so lasy I would have read all 277 pages and seen some better suggestions.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 02, 2011, 07:06:24 PM
After reading GS, i've got some new ones.
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=Noah Emmerich. I'm not sure why, but he's just my mental image of Jack.
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=Gary Oldman
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=Michael Massee
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=Michael Sheen. If you've seen the Doctor Who episode "The Doctor's Wife" then you know he can do deep and intimidating. (He was House)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 03, 2011, 12:55:57 AM
Spoil them names plz. Thankee.

But I agree with the
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casting.

Captain Nicklehead: Has to be Gary Oldman, I saw that on here and was like "YES, that is what I see in my head already"

Sir Anthony Hopkins.  Think "Hannibal Lechter"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on August 03, 2011, 01:56:21 AM
Meh, no movie. It wouldnt work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 03, 2011, 02:14:47 AM
You're in a cheery mood Fantazero, what's up?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 04, 2011, 02:03:02 AM
Since Ghost Story Ive been thinking Jeffrey Dean Morgan for
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on August 04, 2011, 02:15:07 AM
Harry: David Tennant (Have you seen him in fright nights previews?)

David Tennant...I'm unfamiliar with that actor...  ;D

As far as acting is concerned, I think he would make a phenomenal Harry, but unfortunately, he can't pull off the physicality of the role, I don't think.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cheesepusher on August 04, 2011, 12:05:00 PM
David Tennant...I'm unfamiliar with that actor...  ;D

As far as acting is concerned, I think he would make a phenomenal Harry, but unfortunately, he can't pull off the physicality of the role, I don't think.

I didn't think he could either but some of the previews for Fright Night it may be possible.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tx_Ace76 on August 05, 2011, 12:25:39 AM
i think Elisha Cuthbert should play Molly
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on August 05, 2011, 12:49:18 AM
i think Elisha Cuthbert should play Molly

Well, if we went with David Tennant as Harry, the Elisha C. would be about the right height to play Molly, then!  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on August 05, 2011, 03:00:01 AM
i think Elisha Cuthbert should play Molly

I always thought that whilst Molly is attractive (she's a good guy, and so OFC she is), she wouldn't be celebrity level. She'd be attractive because she's a fit girl, who takes care of herself, and is reasonably powerful in her own right - she isn't a wallflower personality.

I don't have any recs for what I'm thinking she looks like though. Maybe 16, 7, 4,3 or (my choice) 2, from http://www.2dorks.com/gallery/2007/0425-sexiestathletes/index.shtml (http://www.2dorks.com/gallery/2007/0425-sexiestathletes/index.shtml)

Although that's more bodytype/general figure than actual person to select - maybe for Charity instead?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sihnon on August 05, 2011, 12:47:06 PM
(http://mimg.actressarchives.com/201012/7/9/2/144297/FamkeJanssen_Barson_8735092.jpg)

I'm still suck on Famke Janssen as Lara Raith.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on August 05, 2011, 01:08:29 PM
I always thought that whilst Molly is attractive (she's a good guy, and so OFC she is), she wouldn't be celebrity level. She'd be attractive because she's a fit girl, who takes care of herself, and is reasonably powerful in her own right - she isn't a wallflower personality.

I don't have any recs for what I'm thinking she looks like though. Maybe 16, 7, 4,3 or (my choice) 2, from http://www.2dorks.com/gallery/2007/0425-sexiestathletes/index.shtml (http://www.2dorks.com/gallery/2007/0425-sexiestathletes/index.shtml)

Although that's more bodytype/general figure than actual person to select - maybe for Charity instead?

I always had the impression, based on how Harry (and Jim, by extension) describes her, that she is supposed to be gorgeous.  Decidedly not a wallflower personality, but gorgeous.  Definitely fit and takes care of herself, but smokin' hot either way.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on August 05, 2011, 01:43:01 PM
It's difficult to resort to mere words, and not the hand signals and such that comes with IRL friendship (had this discussion with someone last night).

Yes, she's gorgeous, but natural with it. You'd turn your head for a second glance (maybe even a third and a linger), but the awesomeness that is her attractivness comes from her normally.

D'ya kinda get what I'm trying to say?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on August 06, 2011, 02:21:48 AM
Ooh, how about Robert Knepper as Nicodemus?

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZPhmqak5RqHH1NhE6LPTYKIGh9fOEBVgIxytPDsEcdkNBcEkm)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 07, 2011, 05:20:55 PM
Hm. Haven't seen him in anything, but going purely on appearance he might work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on August 07, 2011, 06:26:55 PM
I've seen him in Prison Break and the pretty terrible last season of Heroes.  He can play a malevolent character pretty darn well!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on August 08, 2011, 05:18:37 PM
Last Night the Wife and I were walking about the Movie when and if it comes out My suggestion for Mab was viewed by her as way too old was Sian Phillips she played the grandmother in the old I Claudius my wife suggest Alice Krieg who played the Borg Queen in first Contact.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on August 08, 2011, 05:33:00 PM
(http://mimg.actressarchives.com/201012/7/9/2/144297/FamkeJanssen_Barson_8735092.jpg)

I'm still suck on Famke Janssen as Lara Raith.

Yes this is the kind of person i imagine as Lara!!!
(http://image.com.com/tv/images/processed/default/87/eb/320671.JPG)

watched this awful movie the other day (Witchville)  but i can totally see this girl playing Murphy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 08, 2011, 05:39:17 PM
Last Night the Wife and I were walking about the Movie when and if it comes out My suggestion for Mab was viewed by her as way too old was Sian Phillips she played the grandmother in the old I Claudius

OMG.    Sian Phillips was the best Livia Augusta ever.

Fwiw, I think Lena Headey's role in GoT is a good lead-in to playing Mab.

And, may I say it, there is someone absolutely perfect about an id "bellmaker" posting in a Perfect Casting thread.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 08, 2011, 05:41:47 PM
David Tennant...I'm unfamiliar with that actor...  ;D

As far as acting is concerned, I think he would make a phenomenal Harry, but unfortunately, he can't pull off the physicality of the role, I don't think.

Have you seen him as Hamlet?  I think he can.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on August 08, 2011, 05:54:05 PM
Have you seen him as Hamlet?  I think he can.

In terms of acting, DT would be my pick, hands down. 

He's just not physically imposing enough for me to see him as Harry, unfortunately.  If he grew 8 inches or so, he'd be a perfect match for the book description of Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 08, 2011, 06:03:51 PM
He's just not physically imposing enough for me to see him as Harry, unfortunately.  If he grew 8 inches or so, he'd be a perfect match for the book description of Harry.

They did a sort of longshoreman thing for him in Hamlet that worked for a tough guy image, and he was definitely physical.   More physical than the guy that played Laertes, fwiw.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2008/08/06/3hamlet460.jpg)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2009/jan/08/theatre
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 08, 2011, 06:21:21 PM
I don't think DT for Harry but he'd make a great Butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on August 08, 2011, 06:45:06 PM
The Bellmaker name is a play on my real last name.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 08, 2011, 07:34:59 PM
A fortunate coincidence, then.   I saw that  word play and ventured into a corner of the forums I'd never before visited.
 
The Bellmaker name is a play on my real last name.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mstorer3772 on August 08, 2011, 09:39:16 PM
Murphy:  Renee O'Connor!  She was Gabriella in Xena.   She got Really Good martial-arts-wise by the end of the series.  Significantly better than Lucy Lawless (Xena) who tends to be a bit clumsy (I've heard).  The Story Goes that they had to be careful how much of her they showed of Renee or the Side Kick would be showing up The Main Character.

No luck finding later-seasons videos of her fighting on youtube, but I have no doubt she could pull it off. 

Short blond: Check  (5'4")
Sweet: Check
Kicks Ass: Check

Fer instance:
(http://joxer.com.br/images/gabrielle_(69).jpg)

Are we sold yet?!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on August 08, 2011, 10:31:02 PM
yes please.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on August 08, 2011, 10:32:24 PM
Sold.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mstorer3772 on August 08, 2011, 11:00:59 PM
And Fidelacchius is a Katana.  Couldn't have come up with a much better picture if I'd wanted.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 09, 2011, 12:29:56 AM
Well, I'm convinced.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: loadwatergun on August 09, 2011, 03:23:26 AM
I think Gerard Butler, would be a better Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mstorer3772 on August 09, 2011, 05:04:45 AM
I think Gerard Butler, would be a better Kincaid.

I pictured him as Michael.  It's not as if he'd be a stranger to swinging a sword to and fro (as has been pointed out previously in this thread).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: loadwatergun on August 09, 2011, 06:17:34 AM
I pictured him as Michael.  It's not as if he'd be a stranger to swinging a sword to and fro (as has been pointed out previously in this thread).

That's true, but i can't personally see Mr.Butler as Michael. I just picture him differently. Maybe, a little Brad Pittish .... with his hair harder and bearded with gray. And James Franco .... comes to mind for Thomas. Harrison Ford, Clint Eastwood or Michael Caine as Ebenezer.... maybe, their thiner than i imagine him. Maybe, Harrison Ford would be a cool Michael, but too old. Don't hate me for my choices .... i know everyone pictures them differently. I never really thought about casting before thread. I wouldn't even know where to start with Harry .... he's just the way he is in my head.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 09, 2011, 06:29:47 AM
I think Gerard Butler, would be a better Kincaid.

Daniel Craig for Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: loadwatergun on August 09, 2011, 06:35:10 AM
Daniel Craig for Kincaid.


I think i could see that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on August 09, 2011, 12:25:52 PM
Daniel Craig for Kincaid.

this thought popped into my head as i was reading watergun's post.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 09, 2011, 03:52:42 PM
Daniel Craig for Kincaid.
This would work.

What about Tricia Helfer as Gard? Actually, I could also see her as Lash.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on August 09, 2011, 04:00:36 PM
Yeah, Tricia Helfer was who I picked as Gard in my full casting of the books.

I cast almost everyone in the books a few pages back in this thread (around page 270 or so, I think).  I've seen a lot of good suggestions since then.  Might update it with some of the new folks people have suggested.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 09, 2011, 04:44:20 PM
Lash can be cast with a different actress as needed.

Of course, I would find it particularly funny if Marion Cotillard was to play Lash (or Lash's voice).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ejchristian86 on August 09, 2011, 06:00:49 PM
I like the idea of Tricia Helford as Lash, too - she's obviously very good at the "I'm in your head but I'll still fuck with you" role.

And I always see Famke Johansen (sp?) as Lea. When she releases her inner psycho, it is FUN to watch.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mstorer3772 on August 09, 2011, 06:11:33 PM

I think i could see that.

I think he'd make a great Marcone.  Tight control suddenly exploding into violence and then the calm facade smoothly reappears.  Oh yeah.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 09, 2011, 07:23:41 PM

anyone like Rufus Sewell for Marcone?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on August 09, 2011, 07:26:31 PM
Right here.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 09, 2011, 07:54:11 PM
For me, Mark harmon is Marcone.
(http://wwwimage.cbs.com/cms/files/images/web_assets/primetime/ncis/bio/mark_harmon2_240x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 09, 2011, 07:55:40 PM
Oddly enough I see Mark Harmone as a possibility for Father Forthhill but not really for Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on August 09, 2011, 08:24:54 PM
^Yes.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on August 09, 2011, 08:33:35 PM
Murphy looks like this to me
(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/26725/872456-gta3_character_misty_01_super.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 09, 2011, 08:38:31 PM
Shakes head at pic.  That one looks too louche to me.  (dubious, shady, disreputable.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: loadwatergun on August 09, 2011, 11:45:02 PM
anyone like Rufus Sewell for Marcone?

Maybe, tho i see him more as a Lord Raith, when looking at him.
 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: loadwatergun on August 09, 2011, 11:49:47 PM
Not sure if this has been said before, but Clint Eastwood as Mac?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: loadwatergun on August 10, 2011, 12:09:49 AM
I think he'd make a great Marcone.  Tight control suddenly exploding into violence and then the calm facade smoothly reappears.  Oh yeah.

Yeah, i agree with you here ....especially the calm facade. I was thinking what about Mark Wahlberg for Kincaid.  Jay Hernandez, Jeremy Ray Valdez, Olivier Martinez or Gael Garcia Bernal for Ramires.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on August 11, 2011, 10:44:37 PM
Yeah, i agree with you here ....especially the calm facade. I was thinking what about Mark Wahlberg for Kincaid.  Jay Hernandez, Jeremy Ray Valdez, Olivier Martinez or Gael Garcia Bernal for Ramires.

you know i hadnt thought of that but mark walberg as kincaid would be awesome
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: loadwatergun on August 12, 2011, 05:27:06 AM
you know i hadnt thought of that but mark walberg as kincaid would be awesome



Yeah, the body type and cockiness.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 12, 2011, 05:54:28 AM
you know i hadnt thought of that but mark walberg as kincaid would be awesome

See, I always thought of Kincaid as more of a Colin Farrell-type rather than a Walberg-type.  I pictured more bad boy, dark and lean, rather than gym workout muscles.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 12, 2011, 05:56:58 AM
After watching Leverage, I think Christian Kane would make an excellent Kincaid. I know people have already suggested him, based on Angel, but I've never seen it, so I had nothing to base that on.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on August 13, 2011, 02:16:19 PM
Murphy:  Renee O'Connor!  She was Gabriella in Xena.   She got Really Good martial-arts-wise by the end of the series.  Significantly better than Lucy Lawless (Xena) who tends to be a bit clumsy (I've heard).  The Story Goes that they had to be careful how much of her they showed of Renee or the Side Kick would be showing up The Main Character.

No luck finding later-seasons videos of her fighting on youtube, but I have no doubt she could pull it off. 

Short blond: Check  (5'4")
Sweet: Check
Kicks Ass: Check

Fer instance:
(http://joxer.com.br/images/gabrielle_(69).jpg)

Are we sold yet?!

Holy crap yes.

Actually, for the graphic novel, Jim instructed Ardian to combine "Scully and Gabrielle" for Murph, so you're bang on the money. XD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SometimesKate on August 15, 2011, 09:28:02 AM
At this point Renee O'Connor is a good age to play Murphy as well.   

I just want to point out that Paul Bettany would be a dreadful Harry, because the man doesn't have eyebrows!  Granted, that hasn't stopped Viggo Mortenson, but Bettany would be better as one of the WASPy Red-Court twins or Rudolph than as someone as cool has Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 15, 2011, 10:08:03 PM
After seeing Cowboys and Aliens I think Daniel Craig would make a great Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 15, 2011, 11:12:41 PM
Since I have this link handy from posting it in another thread, I'll toss it in here.  Spencer Locke for Molly. 

My problem with casting is that all my folks would have been the perfect age for a series starting 5 or 6 years ago, rather than now.

(http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/0/l/0lx6odqycm95l06m.jpg)
(http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2007_Resident_Evil__Extinction/007REE_Spencer_Locke_002.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 16, 2011, 06:08:06 AM
I have had long discussions about this with many friends of mine, and cast a great many characters in my head over years of reading. Wish I'd gotten in on this thread a little earlier, but what the heck, here's my list:

Harry I've pictured as Nathan Fillion for several years, so I'm stoked that he leads the poll on this thread. I've seen him be deadly serious and total wiseass, so he for sure has the range, and he's tall (not close to seven feet, but certainly over six feet, I've met him) and I think he looks like Harry.
Now, I have heard Jim say Erica Cerra is Susan, and I'm not saying that would be a bad call, but I always picture Gina Torres, myself.
I like Renee O'Connor as Murphy. I kind of picture Melissa Rauch (if not her voice) as Murphy most of the time, because she is blond, and cute, and literally five feet tall. For fight scenes, though, Renee is doubtless the better choice.
I have an interesting choice for Marcone; Sean Maher. I keep thinking it doesn't work because he's rather young, but then when I read the books I keep picturing it. He has a certain skill for self-contained intensity that just resonates with my idea of Marcone.
I've pictured Michael as Alan Tudyk almost since he appeared, mostly because he's the only actor I can see delivering those lines without irritating me, but I also think he has the right structure for it, especially when he's been working out. (I have a very clear picture of Charity in my head, but I can't think of anyone who could play her, apart from maybe Carrie Fisher back in her heyday.)
Lea has always appeared as Christina Hendricks to me.
Molly is tricky, because she grows up over the course of the books. Grown Molly I kind of picture as (younger) Rose McGowan, though. I don't know who the heck I would cast if it were going to start filming today.
I have a lot of trouble casting Ebenezer. I can picture him just fine, but I can't really name anyone who looks like what I see in my head. I think the closest might be Rip Torn.
Just because he has proven himself so good at playing evil, I tend to picture David Boreanaz as Nicodemus.
Butters is totally David Krumholtz. He's even got the hair for it.
The Mab of my imagination kind of fluctuates between Juliet Landau and Oliva Wilde.
Many people seem to agree with me on Thomas. Always always pictured him as James Marsters. Difficult not to, really. For Justine I think Kat Dennings comes closest to what I see in my head. (Oh, and I totally agree on Cillian Murphy as Madrigal, that's a great call)
Enver Gjokaj as Ramirez.
D.B. Woodside as Sanja, though I kind of love the idea of Old Spice guy, as well.
I think Christina Ricci would come closest to my picture of Lasciel, though I suppose her appearance changes from time to time.
I think I see Elaine as Claire Danes. Or Amy Acker. I know, they're quite different.
Gard I see as Katee Sackhoff.
I've seen Angelina Jolie mentioned for Lara. I can't really disagree with that.
I only skimmed the thread, but I haven't seen many names put forward for Luccio. I would submit Patty Duke for pre-swap, and Shirley Yeung for post-swap (though, I'm not sure if she can speak English or not, but she's just exactly what I picture, and this is all fantasy casting anyway.)
I'll agree with Clancy Brown as Morgan.
I think I'd like to see Hugh Laurie as the Merlin. He does irritation so well.

I'm sure I'm missing a few, but it's getting late and I can't think of anyone else just now.

P.S.
After watching Leverage, I think Christian Kane would make an excellent Kincaid. I know people have already suggested him, based on Angel, but I've never seen it, so I had nothing to base that on.
Yes! I could totally see that. I think of Kincaid as a little taller, but I could still totally see that.
(If you didn't notice the pattern in my own casting picks, I kind of have a fondness for almost anyone who was on pretty much any Whedon show. What can I say? They tend to be cast fairly well in nearly all cases.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SometimesKate on August 16, 2011, 10:52:24 AM
I see Christopher Lee as the Merlin.  He really is just perfect for the role.   Clancy Brown as Morgan?  I suppose he can do it, but he'd be a better Marcone, I think.  Then, in my mind he's still that really hot guy from Buckaroo Banzai and Highlander, which tells far too much of my age, I'm sure. 

The problem with blond actors playing Micheal and Thomas is that they're not blond.  They're both described as having black hair and, I'm sure Thomas does, and I think Micheal also does, have grey eyes.   At one point the books mention Alicia is the only exception to the boys with dark hair/girls with blonde theme the family has.  Sandahl Bergman would be an interesting choice for Gard, but she is a bit too old now.   Too many actresses nowadays fit into a very small mold, no pun intended.  The women in the DV range from tiny Murphy to six-foot Charity and Murphy, to Gard, who is even taller. 

And Mab is totally Tilda Swinton.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 16, 2011, 03:48:59 PM
The problem with blond actors playing Micheal and Thomas is that they're not blond.  They're both described as having black hair and, I'm sure Thomas does, and I think Micheal also does, have grey eyes.
Hair dye exists, and James Marsters is a natural brunette. (Though by this point it's going gray, which is a sad story, but the man *is* pushing fifty, after all.) And he even has natural curl in his hair, which Thomas has as well.

I don't think that Tilda Swinton has the look to play Mab. She's rather androgynous. Famously so, actually. Mab is blatantly feminine and beautiful beyond the pale.

I wouldn't argue with Christopher Lee as the Merlin. He's not exactly what I picture, but I could see it.

I'll have to re-read the books (for a fourth or fifth time,) but it's interesting to me that so many casts of Marcone are older guys. I always thought he was near Harry's age. It said he was a young thug when the little girl got caught in the crossfire, right? And she's basically an adolescent when we see her in Death Masks, so he can't be that old, certainly not past middle age. I know I cast him a little young (though I do age the actor up a few years in my head) but he's certainly not in his fifties or sixties. Is he?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SometimesKate on August 16, 2011, 04:38:03 PM


I'll have to re-read the books (for a fourth or fifth time,) but it's interesting to me that so many casts of Marcone are older guys. I always thought he was near Harry's age. It said he was a young thug when the little girl got caught in the crossfire, right? And she's basically an adolescent when we see her in Death Masks, so he can't be that old, certainly not past middle age. I know I cast him a little young (though I do age the actor up a few years in my head) but he's certainly not in his fifties or sixties. Is he?


That's one of those 'who the heck knows' issues.  Seriously, at the risk of being critical, it really isn't well-described.  I keep picturing him in his 40's or 50's, but he couldn't have been a young punk less than a decade ago if he were.  But if he were Harry's age, I do not believe he could have taken control and done so as effectively as he has.  Someone like Torelli would never follow or obey someone he viewed as substantively younger, even in the very.. um... poor way Torelli has, given that he's always plotting to take over the organization. 

Someone mentioned Sean Maher as Marcone, and in a way he has the right look, but he's too slight, in my opinion. 

Yes, James Marsters isn't a natural blonde, but that hair colour wasn't natural -anything-.  He might be an interesting Marcone, now that I think of it. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 16, 2011, 04:42:02 PM

Young actors look young.    It is difficult for young actors to look world-wise, and when they manage it they succeed mostly in fooling the younger viewership.

This is one of those things where how one tells a story on screen is not how one would do it in real life.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SometimesKate on August 16, 2011, 04:51:10 PM
I think the problem is that most young actors are tv or movie stars, or they want to be.  They're not actual actors.    A good actor, male or female, can convince you of almost anything.  Though, and I was a theatre major in college so I did take both stage and film acting classes, movies are vastly different from doing plays on the stage.  In some ways it's easier, but in others far more difficult. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 16, 2011, 07:05:01 PM
Someone mentioned Sean Maher as Marcone, and in a way he has the right look, but he's too slight, in my opinion.
That was me :) He is built fairly slightly (though he's hiding some muscle, actually) but I never saw Marcone as a big guy; I always saw him as the guy who is surrounded by big guys, but is more intimidating than any of them when he narrows his eyes a little bit. Sean Maher has a thunderous glare when he wants to. He also has very light eyes.
I always thought that one of the things that made Marcone so impressive was that he had built this crime empire up despite being rather young for it. Maybe I was imagining that.

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Yes, James Marsters isn't a natural blonde, but that hair colour wasn't natural -anything-.
Heh, I am very aware.
If I were to cast Thomas based on hair, I'd cast Aiden Turner (the one from the BBC's Being Human) because he definitely has the perfect hair for it, and he's definitely handsome as well. He might be able to pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on August 16, 2011, 09:35:59 PM
Clancy Brown who some have suggested for Morgan would also make a good Marcone he can go from creepy to nice in a blink I personality could see him more has Marcoen who is described as a scary High school coach.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on August 17, 2011, 04:23:54 AM
If I were to cast Thomas based on hair, I'd cast Aiden Turner (the one from the BBC's Being Human) because he definitely has the perfect hair for it, and he's definitely handsome as well. He might be able to pull it off.
Aiden's definitely good-looking, there's no denying that, but he's not attractive in the right way for Thomas, I don't think. He's not what I'd classify as a "pretty-boy" - like, say, Orlando Bloom, or Matt Bomer. And White Court vampires are supposed to be very pale. Aiden's very much not pale.
... Plus, obviously, there's the fact that he's Irish. Do we know if he can do a passable American accent? And removing the accent would probably take away at least 10% of his charm. But that's just me.

Other than that, he's perfect. He's got mad acting skills. His character in Being Human had a kind of Thomas-like (that is, a kind of self-hatred, "I'm a monster and a psychopath, and I'm going to brood about it 'cause I can't help it, and you should just kill me now because I'm such an awful person", mixed with a kind of acceptance of that same monster-side - "Why should I fight it? Hell, I'm just going to kill a train of people now because I'm angry. Why not?" - lackadaisical, sharp-witted, outwardly calm when everything's going to hell) personality.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 17, 2011, 05:44:04 AM
So this occurred to me, what about Milla Jovovich as Lara?
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Lara.jpg)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/LaraRaith.jpg)
I know I would lose the knack for coherent speech around her.

Aiden's definitely good-looking, there's no denying that, but he's not attractive in the right way for Thomas, I don't think. He's not what I'd classify as a "pretty-boy"
Fair point, though I think he'd have the potential for it if he didn't have the perma-stubble going on. I have certainly had a couple of "He's so pretty" moments watching that show.
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And White Court vampires are supposed to be very pale. Aiden's very much not pale.
Also fair point. I'm sure something could be done about that, effects-wise, but it might be expensive.
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... Plus, obviously, there's the fact that he's Irish. Do we know if he can do a passable American accent? And removing the accent would probably take away at least 10% of his charm. But that's just me.
I have no idea if he can, and I don't know if I would want him to, I am a fan of that accent. It's not terribly thick, though, so he might be able to learn an American accent fairly easily.
However, when Thomas does his haridresser thing, he has the French accent, which might be an equally important skill for an actor to have. I'm not saying Aiden Turner can do a French accent, but maybe he can just by virtue of living closer to France than a lot of American actors :p (I do know that James Marsters can do something resembling the French accent from his reading of the audiobooks.)

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Other than that, he's perfect. He's got mad acting skills. His character in Being Human had a kind of Thomas-like (that is, a kind of self-hatred, "I'm a monster and a psychopath, and I'm going to brood about it 'cause I can't help it, and you should just kill me now because I'm such an awful person", mixed with a kind of acceptance of that same monster-side - "Why should I fight it? Hell, I'm just going to kill a train of people now because I'm angry. Why not?" - lackadaisical, sharp-witted, outwardly calm when everything's going to hell) personality.
Agreed.


...I am now on a quest to gather photos of my perfect cast, and alter them as necessary to make them look like the characters. I doubt I can do it all in a week, though, which is sad since the semester is starting on Monday.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SometimesKate on August 17, 2011, 06:31:51 AM
A young Elizabeth Hurley would have been an excellent Lara, or even Madeline.  The fellow who played Loki in the new Thor flick would be a good Madrigal.   

I don't see Sean Maher looking like a football coach at all. 

Since Ossie Davis is dead, it puts him out of the running as Rawlins, but Ron Glass would do the job nicely, I think. 

(Has anyone else noticed that we are stacking the deck a bit with Firefly actors?   Speaking of which, Morena Baccarin would do well as Lara. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 17, 2011, 07:33:48 AM
(Has anyone else noticed that we are stacking the deck a bit with Firefly actors?   Speaking of which, Morena Baccarin would do well as Lara.
Well, that's what happens when a show is chalk-full of good actors.
Speaking of, I totally used a picture of Mal to get my vision of Harry somewhat realized. Result, for any interested:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Harry.jpg)

Morena is too olive-skinned to be Lara, though aside from that I could see her carrying the part. Ron Glass would be perfect as Rawlins; I'm sure I meant to put that in my initial list posting.
I don't recall where it said that Marcone looks like a football coach. It's immaterial to me when envisioning Sean, though; it's more about his glare and his sense of containment. He also looks pretty good in a suit. I did acknowledge that my choice was atypical.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SometimesKate on August 17, 2011, 07:42:56 AM
I wasn't poo-pooh'ing it just on reflex, I did think about it, because his face works.  I can see his face being that of Marcone, and he'd be an excellent young Marcone, all he'd need would be a set of contact lenses.   
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on August 18, 2011, 12:38:44 AM
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So this occurred to me, what about Milla Jovovich as Lara?

Hell the frack YES! I'll be in my bunk!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on August 18, 2011, 03:01:48 AM
^Holycrap. That's the exact picture in my head of Lara. Even the eyes. Hell, especially the eyes...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 18, 2011, 06:23:09 AM
^Holycrap. That's the exact picture in my head of Lara. Even the eyes. Hell, especially the eyes...
That's exactly what I thought when I saw it! Glad I'm not the only one.

I can see his face being that of Marcone, and he'd be an excellent young Marcone, all he'd need would be a set of contact lenses.
He would barely need those. His eyes are an incredibly light shade of blue, and I can definitely see a bit of green in them. That 'old dollar bill' color? They're very close, depending on the light.

So this is how I see Marcone (more or less)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Marcone.jpg)


*edit* And I think I've decided that Jeff Bridges should be Ebenezer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 18, 2011, 08:12:09 AM
Sorry I think too young for Marcone.
Chris Meloni's name has been raised for Marcone.  (Law and Order - SVU)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SometimesKate on August 18, 2011, 08:21:09 AM

*edit* And I think I've decided that Jeff Bridges should be Ebenezer.
 

I think he's too tall, but his brother Beau might work.  I know he's old and hairy now, but I have trouble shaking my mental image of Jeff Bridges as being young and cute.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wolverine83 on August 18, 2011, 08:46:33 AM
I've always pictured Megan Fox as Lara Raith.

Helena Bonham Carter as Mab.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SometimesKate on August 18, 2011, 08:51:04 AM
Except that Megan Fox couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag.  Helena Bonham Carter is a talented actress, but frankly, I don't like her as a person.  However, she does creepy very well.  A younger Miranda Richardson would have been a good Mab.

Has anyone suggested Eva Mendes for Susan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 18, 2011, 08:55:41 AM
I agree Megan Fox can't act.
As for Helena Bonham Carter - no, I see her more as Mother Winter - would fit her creepy performances.
Mab has to be both beautiful and an Ice Queen literally.  (And no not Tilda Swinson - she's too androgynous.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SometimesKate on August 18, 2011, 09:41:59 AM
Tilda Swinton is an very talented actor, so she can play sexy as well as androgynous if she wishes, I'm sure.  Granted, they'd have to pad her chest, but it's not like that doesn't happen all the time.  Hollywood wants us to believe that it's possible to look like an 8 year old boy with a generous cleavage, but without silicone, it's really not. 


Emma Thompson for Luccio in her original body?  And that girl from the old Pepsi commercials with the fantastic dimples and curly dark hair for co-ed Luccio?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wolverine83 on August 18, 2011, 12:30:09 PM
A younger Miranda Richardson would have been a good Mab.

Didn't she play Mab in an adaptation of Merlin?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on August 18, 2011, 03:25:12 PM
G.K. Simmons for the MErlin, he is the bald actor on the Farmers INS ads he also played a shrink in SVU and a NEo Nazi leader in Oz.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on August 18, 2011, 04:26:14 PM

gotta say alexa davalos for coed luccio.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 18, 2011, 05:08:59 PM
Here is my mental image of Lea:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Lea.jpg)


Sorry I think too young for Marcone.
Yeah, we've been having this conversation. How old is Marcone, exactly? Because if he was a young tough when the little girl got shot, and she was an adolescent in Death Masks, then he's not that old.
(gee, I feel like I'm repeating myself a page later or something.)

He's described as having crow's feet (hence my giving the guy some crow's feet, which might be more visible full-size, which the forum won't display) and salt-and-pepper hair (hence the smattering of gray hairs) which I take to mean "premature gray" more than "getting old."
Also, this is how he looks in the comic book:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/marcone.jpg)
Doesn't look that old to me.

Tilda Swinton is an very talented actor, so she can play sexy as well as androgynous if she wishes, I'm sure.  Granted, they'd have to pad her chest, but it's not like that doesn't happen all the time.  Hollywood wants us to believe that it's possible to look like an 8 year old boy with a generous cleavage, but without silicone, it's really not.
It's possible to be thin (maybe not eight-year-old thin, but thin) and have generous cleavage, it's just rare. I've heard that about 1% of ectomorph women are naturally well-endowed. Example would be Kat Dennings (my pick for Justine) who is slender, but definitely has generous cleavage. (I am 99% certain they're real.)
There's no denying Tilda Swinton's talent, but she's just not all that pretty. It's not just her body that's somewhat androgynous, it's her face. I wouldn't cast her as Mab. Not saying I wouldn't cast her at all, just not as an unearthly beautiful fae.

I have trouble shaking my mental image of Jeff Bridges as being young and cute.
Well, I suggest watching the new True Grit; that'll shake it pretty fast. (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h121/PhoenixRoseStar/Emotes/giggle2.gif)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 18, 2011, 08:20:55 PM

Cute Leanansidhe, though the body is rather more 'lush' than I had pictured Lea.   'Lush' in the sense of well-fed, with loose-ish creamy skin and no fascia showing under that skin.


(gee, I feel like I'm repeating myself a page later or something.)

That happens when there's a lot of peeps unpersuaded.  ;D

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He's described as having crow's feet (hence my giving the guy some crow's feet, which might be more visible full-size, which the forum won't display) and salt-and-pepper hair (hence the smattering of gray hairs) which I take to mean "premature gray" more than "getting old."

IMO still smooth and baby-faced in between those a la carte crows' feet and dyeable grays. 

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Also, this is how he looks in the comic book:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/marcone.jpg)
Doesn't look that old to me.

That guy could easily be anywhere from 30 to 47.    The forehead wrinklage is believable instead of looking stuck-on.   The receding hair at the temples is believable.  The slight jowliness goes against my picture of Marcone, but adds to credibility and impression of power.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 18, 2011, 08:42:45 PM
Lea is described as having a lush figure, and her skin is creamy. And trust me, that actress can be scary if she wants.
That happens when there's a lot of peeps unpersuaded.  ;D
Really? Because I thought it was what happened when people didn't bother to read anything but the last post.
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That guy could easily be anywhere from 30 to 47.
Very true. However, since many casts put forth are in their fifties and sixties, that would still be younger than he's being perceived. I would guess he's in his early-to-mid-thirties, with some premature gray, a natural widow's peak, and skin aged a bit by the sun, since he's described as tan. That would put him in his early twenties when the little girl was caught in the crossfire, which would work timeline wise.
(FYI, Sean Maher is 36, just sayin')


Next up, here is my vision of Susan:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Susan.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 18, 2011, 08:48:27 PM
I'm sure that Lea could grow on me, given time. 

.Really? Because I thought it was what happened when people didn't bother to read anything but the last post.

I'm describing the effect, you're describing one possible cause  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on August 18, 2011, 09:06:13 PM
I agree that Sean Maher is a good choice for Marcone, actually. He's an amazing actor, and that's pretty much how I see Marcone physically... like a powerful rich guy; not large or physically intimidating, not someone you'd look at and say "wow, he's a crime lord." Someone who doesn't look out of place at expensive parties in thousand dollar suits. Harry's said as much practically every time he descibes the guy.
I just think I'd have trouble seeing him as a scary quasi-badguy after watching Firefly. I mean... come on... sweetie Simon killing people and trafficing drugs and running health-conscious brothels?  ??? Madness. Sheer madness.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 18, 2011, 09:53:01 PM
I agree that Sean Maher is a good choice for Marcone, actually. He's an amazing actor, and that's pretty much how I see Marcone physically... like a powerful rich guy; not large or physically intimidating, not someone you'd look at and say "wow, he's a crime lord." Someone who doesn't look out of place at expensive parties in thousand dollar suits. Harry's said as much practically every time he descibes the guy.
I just think I'd have trouble seeing him as a scary quasi-badguy after watching Firefly. I mean... come on... sweetie Simon killing people and trafficing drugs and running health-conscious brothels?  ??? Madness. Sheer madness.
Thank you, Ziggelly.
It would kind of be the anti-Simon role, wouldn't it? That can be fun, though. Nathan Fillion made one of the best villains on Buffy, after all. :)


So, here's why I would cast Kat Dennings as Justine:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Justine.jpg)

And David Boreanaz as Nicodemus:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Nicodemus.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kirkfan on August 19, 2011, 12:27:06 PM
Im a newbie to this forum..but this is an old question lol.  I have always pictured dresden as a young, tall Harry Hamlin. he has the perfect facial structure..and most of the attitude as well. and for Kincaid...well..there could be no better person to play him than Harvey Keitel! well..if you could de-age him to pulp fiction days anyway.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SometimesKate on August 19, 2011, 12:32:11 PM
Honestly, I've always pictured Kincaid as being handsome.  Harvey Keitel is an excellent actor, but he was never handsome, and now he's downright scary looking. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 19, 2011, 03:19:05 PM
Honestly, I've always pictured Kincaid as being handsome.
Well, Murphy does refer to him as good-looking. ("It's been a long time since a good looking man took my pants off.")
I do like the idea of Christian Kane as Kincaid, but I think that Chris Hemsworth might come a bit closer to my picture of him. He is very tall and broad.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on August 20, 2011, 01:44:51 PM
For Molly, how about this woman?  ;D
(http://theninemuses.net/pics/costume/daMolly2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on August 20, 2011, 08:07:41 PM
And that is why we need a thumbs up function.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: talktotheHand on August 20, 2011, 08:24:06 PM
Priscellie would probably love that.  She does some of the best Molly Cosplay I've seen here.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on August 21, 2011, 12:39:00 AM
For Molly, how about this woman
I love how psyched she looks to be getting her picture with the Bruce.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 22, 2011, 01:01:00 AM
Mab:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Mab.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tim2.0 on August 22, 2011, 01:32:43 AM
ok neuro that chick scares me lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Orbweaver on August 22, 2011, 01:41:47 AM
I don't see Mab there, neuro, but I do see Esmerelda from the Eebs.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 22, 2011, 01:49:26 AM
Not Mab but Maeve - the nutty one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on August 22, 2011, 04:37:56 AM
the nutty one sl are you really using that to differentiate the two?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 22, 2011, 04:51:59 AM
the nutty one sl are you really using that to differentiate the two?
Lol, ya really. Mab is way nuttier.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 22, 2011, 04:53:49 AM
Lol, ya really. Mab is way nuttier.

than Maeve?  heh.

by the way, between you and zur en arrh, I'm feeling a bit neuroasthenic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 22, 2011, 05:03:17 AM
than Maeve?  heh.
Um, yes, Mab is nuttier than Maeve. Maeve has a few moments, mostly for the benefit of throwing emotions off, but Mab has completely lost it. Juliet Landau is excellent for quiet insanity and quiet inspiring of terror. For Maeve and her overt, almost play-acted instability, I see the late Brittany Murphy.
Are y'all thinking of Aurora? She was definitely crazy as well.

(Oh, and my name comes from my interest in neuroscience :) )
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 22, 2011, 05:04:03 AM
Rrg, double post.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 22, 2011, 05:12:53 AM
Maeve has a few moments, mostly for the benefit of throwing emotions off, but Mab has completely lost it.

For human-norm values of "lost it" I'd hand that to you without objection.   

For Winter-Queen-normal, I see nothing that indicates Mab is off her rocker as such.   "Wounded" in her power, certainly.   Making extremely unusual moves as far as mortals are concerned, sure.   She could still be acting in completely reasonable fashion for Supreme Faerie Beings.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 22, 2011, 05:45:01 AM
For Winter-Queen-normal, I see nothing that indicates Mab is off her rocker as such.
Aside from the fae saying that she's acting odd, and the fact that she's so angry and unstable that her voice can make one's ears bleed.
Maeve does her, as Elaine says, "nympho act," and she dyes her hair and acts a bit wild, but she hasn't shown any signs of actual instability. We saw her kill a mortal, but apparently the fae can be kind of into that; that one isn't unnusual. But once Mab took that athame from Lea... well.
Anyways, I stand by Juliet Landau as my image of Mab. My image of Maeve looks like so:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Maeve.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 22, 2011, 05:48:56 AM
Aside from the fae saying that she's acting odd,

It is well to remember that Harry is being very actively manipulated in that scene.

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and the fact that she's so angry and unstable that her voice can make one's ears bleed.

..which fits with 'wounded' and angry.

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Maeve does her, as Elaine says, "nympho act," and she dyes her hair and acts a bit wild, but she hasn't shown any signs of actual instability.

Well, I could argue that the entire "Something Borrowed" episode would be an example of instability...but lets leave that for another thread.


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My image of Maeve looks like so:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Maeve.jpg)

^This, I can support.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 22, 2011, 07:23:46 AM
Well if we're just talking about how we see them, as opposed to actual casting...

Mab - Tricia Helfer
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTi0ccdGSOXccZ3yVRYKJDn_edCkW4LPQNRwd2tzY7v51pLDDDqog)

Titania - Jeri Ryan
(http://www.zap2it.com/media/photo/2006-08/25045277.jpg?title=Jeri+Ryan)

Leah - Klodi Monsoon
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/Leah.jpg)

Maeve - Barbara Planche model (http://www.myspace.com/barbara_planche/photos/48457171)
(http://a3.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/129/8dfe1c4ad9c74a35aacbc56e209c9692/l.jpg)


Mother Winter (Dench) and Mother Summer (Mirren)
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lklpevkH3K1qzp36vo1_500.jpg)

Jenny Greenteeth - Basistka @ deviantart
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/310/c/2/c225af385dc31d6f757d9c3c6bda3846.jpg)


Gard - Izabella Scorupco
(http://www.baraoemfoco.com.br/barao/portal/cultura/cinema/estrelas/images11/Izabella-Scorupco4.jpg)

Beckett - Debrah Farentino
(http://www.treksinscifi.com/babedaily/babes/2009-01-05-Debrah_Farentino.jpg)

Susan - Sofia Pernas
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQpyfcVoruZQnAOkYuuT3rNII3-tHwkEMR73lQhAM7WsAJ2Yp0LGA)

Murphy - Kristen Bell
(http://comicfoundry.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/kbell1.jpg)

Molly - Random chick on tumbler's hair + Spencer Locke
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTcP11o0lujWycSZiZ_kx3MmyIHrSv2m_QOTpBY7DhlzTpQyU83) (http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/0/l/0lx6odqycm95l06m.jpg)

Sue - Sue
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/Natural_InstinctndyDetail.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 22, 2011, 07:32:11 AM
Some I agree with - some I don't.
The one for Gard - no - she needs to look Nordic and that lady neither looks Nordic nor capable of wielding a battle ax.  Jeri Ryan for Titania - good.  And I love Judi Dench and Helen Mirren as the Mothers.
Kristen Bell - no not as Murphy, sorry.  And the lady for Susan - no, she's too young looking - Susan is a woman.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 22, 2011, 07:44:02 AM
Some I agree with - some I don't.
The one for Gard - no - she needs to look Nordic and that lady neither looks Nordic nor capable of wielding a battle ax.  Jeri Ryan for Titania - good.  And I love Judi Dench and Helen Mirren as the Mothers.
Kristen Bell - no not as Murphy, sorry.  And the lady for Susan - no, she's too young looking - Susan is a woman.

I always pictured Susan as younger than Harry in the early books, which would put her in her early to mid twenties.  And then when she was bitten, she stopped aging.  Sofia Pernas is 22, so she'd be around the right age for Susan in that scenario.  But I don't know when Susan was born, or how old she was supposed to be.

Kristen Bell in that picture, to me, looks like Murphy, but not anywhere else.  And Izabella Scorupco may not be a Nordic Amazon, but she's actually from Poland and 5'8".  And she was Bond girl, so <3.  In the past I said a young Famke Janssen as Leah, since she's could pull off the red-headed crazy; that would be two Bond girls, plus Dench.

How about this pic of Izabella?  Any better?
(http://www.leenwallpapers.com/images/gallery/IzabellaScorupco.jpg)
other pictures:  http://hairstylesarea.com/tag/izabella-scorupco-haircuts
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 22, 2011, 07:52:57 AM
She looks more Nordic but this is gonna sound odd - too modelesque.
Gard is a descendant of Beowolf - I want to see a warrior who happens to be very striking - I'm afraid, for me, she isn't it.  Oddly enough - Jeri Ryan would be better Gard for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 22, 2011, 08:03:55 AM
She looks more Nordic but this is gonna sound odd - too modelesque.
Gard is a descendant of Beowolf - I want to see a warrior who happens to be very striking - I'm afraid, for me, she isn't it.  Oddly enough - Jeri Ryan would be better Gard for me.

I thought of her as Gard too, but I thought she would make a fitting opposite to Tricia Helfer as Mab.

Here's your Nordic Warrior Princess, then  ;D
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/2008_boise_fit_expo_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 22, 2011, 08:09:32 AM
Less than brief pause as I 'ralph up' my dinner.
Urgh - I hope you're joking.  That's just wrong and I suspect she
may have had extra help in getting that body.
(I'm not fond of male bodybuilders either for that matter.  They, I'm sorry if I offend, look freakish.)
I prefer the kind of body you get on a swimmer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 22, 2011, 08:13:57 AM
Less than brief pause as I 'ralph up' my dinner.
Urgh - I hope you're joking.  That's just wrong and I suspect she
may have had extra help in getting that body.
(I'm not fond of male bodybuilders either for that matter.  They, I'm sorry if I offend, look freakish.)
I prefer the kind of body you get on a swimmer.

How about this one?
(http://www.fantasydollsbyd.com/WarriorQueen2WEB.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 22, 2011, 08:17:44 AM
?????????
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 22, 2011, 12:54:32 PM
Well if we're just talking about how we see them, as opposed to actual casting...
Who says there's a difference? Obviously, if you were a casting director, it would be at least a little about how you see them. I've cast a great many characters in my head, and can watch the books play out like a movie with my cast in my imagination. (Even though some of them are too old or passed away.) That makes my cast my perfect cast. :)

I always saw Katee Sackhoff as Gard.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Gard.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on August 22, 2011, 01:28:36 PM
Who says there's a difference? Obviously, if you were a casting director, it would be at least a little about how you see them. I've cast a great many characters in my head, and can watch the books play out like a movie with my cast in my imagination. (Even though some of them are too old or passed away.) That makes my cast my perfect cast. :)

I always saw Katee Sackhoff as Gard.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Gard.jpg)

Eh, I see Tricia Helfer more as Gard than Katee Sackhoff.  Hmm, I don't seem to recall Gard wearing a slinky red dress, though...  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 22, 2011, 03:32:22 PM
Hmm, I don't seem to recall Gard wearing a slinky red dress, though...  ;)

Not that she couldn't, of course  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 22, 2011, 04:25:12 PM
Eh, I see Tricia Helfer more as Gard than Katee Sackhoff.
Tricia Helfer can be badass, but it's in a very different way than Katee Sackhoff is badass. Tricia's less physically intimidating and more kind of mind-games intimidating; I would see her more as a manifestation of Laciel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 22, 2011, 05:12:29 PM
If we want someone who can kick ass for Gard, might I suggest Uma Thurman?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on August 22, 2011, 05:20:10 PM
For Gard I will admit she is short by for pure Ass kick Milla Jovovich from  the Fifth element.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 22, 2011, 05:22:50 PM
If we want someone who can kick ass for Gard, might I suggest Uma Thurman?

Sorry, but she just looks spindly feeble.   She might be able to wield a 2lb styrofoam ax painted silver, or an aluminum katana as in  Kill Bill.     Take on a Grendelkin?  Errr, no.

I'd have to see fitness and muscle at least comparable to what the Williams sisters have to cast someone for Gard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 22, 2011, 05:51:07 PM
Sorry, but she just looks spindly feeble.   She might be able to wield a 2lb styrofoam ax painted silver, or an aluminum katana as in  Kill Bill.     Take on a Grendelkin?  Errr, no.

I'd have to see fitness and muscle at least comparable to what the Williams sisters have to cast someone for Gard.

Fair point.

As for all the discussion about Sean Maher as Marcone; what about casting him as Tilly? As far as I know, no one's tried to cast him yet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on August 22, 2011, 05:55:21 PM
How about Maria Sharapova then, looks-wise, for Gard? She's tall, blonde, athletic, striking... and you can see her kicking ass.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 22, 2011, 06:52:39 PM
Not Uma Thurman for Gard, sorry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on August 22, 2011, 11:09:39 PM
okay, first my galcast

molly-taylor momsen
(http://surfme.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/taylor-momsen-13.jpg)

murphy-nicki aycox
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/A_F/Da_Dh/DarkBlue/Season1/DarkBlue15.jpg)

leah- christina hendricks
(http://www.nypost.com/pagesixmag/issues/20081012/images/Features/hendricks/1.jpg)

gard- tricia helfer
(http://78.109.164.61/assets/images/0001/2520/tricia-helfer-as-caprica-six-in-battlestar-galactica.jpg?1251967256)

coed luccio- alexa davalos
(http://wearemoviegeeks.com/wp-content/alexa-davalos.jpg)

lara- mila jovovich
(http://www.moviespad.com/photos/milla-jovovich-poster-3e921.jpg)

georgia- mary winstead
(http://assistantdirectors.com/art/movies/2006/final2.jpg)

susan- sarah shahi
(http://www.straitpinkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/sarah-shahi_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 22, 2011, 11:28:31 PM
Jesse Eisenberg for Butters
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on August 22, 2011, 11:54:55 PM
then my guycast

harry- zachary quinto
(http://www.glogster.com/media/2/11/60/88/11608862.jpg)

tommy boy- matt bomer
(http://famewatcher.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/matt-bomer-white-suit-02.jpg)

michael- nathan fillion
(http://images.wikia.com/buffy/images/9/97/Nathan1.jpg)

eb-robert duvall
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0147e1b890b0970b-pi)

arthur langtry- terrance stamp
(http://redphonezone.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/382-Terence-Stamp.jpg)

kincaid- chris cain
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Tru9fz0xTPY/TIx7Sgbn_fI/AAAAAAAAB6k/FHNTlmZvibY/s1600/Leverage_The+Nigerian+Job+4+-+Christian+Kane+-+PH+Richard+Fo.jpg)

morgan- clancy brown (dear god he's scarier when he smiles)
(http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2011/07/24/previews/Clancy%20Brown-AES-041271.jpg)

fix- dominic monaghan
(http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/07/22/dominic_monaghan_narrowweb__200x318.jpg)

ramirez- freddy rodriguez
(http://www.firstshowing.net/img/freddy-grindhouse.jpg)

sanya- the man your man could smell like
(http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/blogs/files/2010/07/isaiah-mustafa.jpg)

butters- jay baruchel
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/2532/832362-jay_baruchel_in_tropic_thunder_wallpaper_5_800_super.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 23, 2011, 01:02:12 AM


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molly-taylor momsen
Looks good
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murphy-nicki aycox
Has the right look
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leah- christina hendricks
Meh.
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gard- tricia helfer
If not Mab, then maybe
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coed luccio- alexa davalos
As good as any.  A younger Sarah Carter would work just as well.
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lara- mila jovovich
Meh.  Not a classical beauty.  I think more Olivia Wilde.
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georgia- mary winstead
Sure
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susan- sarah shahi
I could see that.  I liked her on that cop show a few years back.
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harry- zachary quinto
I just can't get past Syler.
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tommy boy- matt bomer
As in my sig cast
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michael- nathan fillion
Fillion is too funny to waste on a serious characater
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eb-robert duvall
Not bad, but i pictured shorter and squatter
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arthur langtry- terrance stamp
i'd love Stamp in it, but I imagined Langtry more classic merlin-type.  i'd need to see a beard.
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kincaid- chris cain
meh.  i've said before, i pictured him leaner, less bench muscle.  more like colin farrel.
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morgan- clancy brown (dear god he's scarier when he smiles)
looks good to me
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fix- dominic monaghan
sure, why not
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ramirez- freddy rodriguez
again, i imagined leaner, more wiry.
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sanya- the man your man could smell like
Good, but I wasn't impressed with his acting as a guest star on Chuck.
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butters- jay baruchel
as in my sig.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 23, 2011, 03:34:57 AM
Leah - Klodi Monsoon
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/Leah.jpg)
Hmmm, I disagree. I'd see her more as Deirdre; she looks kind of overly lean, cruel, and dangerous.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 23, 2011, 05:10:56 AM
Hmmm, I disagree. I'd see her more as Deirdre; she looks kind of overly lean, cruel, and dangerous.

I would agree to that.  But she's a Euorpean model, and my original idea was to have all the Fae cast with Eastern Europeans, a.k.a. old world with distinct accents.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 23, 2011, 05:30:41 AM
my original idea was to have all the Fae cast with Eastern Europeans, a.k.a. old world with distinct accents.
Fair enough, but that could be a good tactic for the Denarians, too.

I really think she works quite well as a baseline for Deirdre. Anyone agree?
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Deirdre.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on August 23, 2011, 12:00:48 PM
Harry Dresden - Jim Parsons
(http://i2.listal.com/image/807783/600full-jim-parsons.jpg)(http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/10/20/jim-parsons/jim-parsons_blog.jpg)

*dives behind cover*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 23, 2011, 03:39:26 PM
Harry Dresden - Jim Parsons
(http://i2.listal.com/image/807783/600full-jim-parsons.jpg)(http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/10/20/jim-parsons/jim-parsons_blog.jpg)

*dives behind cover*
Only for the "DnD magic should work more like real magic" conversation.   ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 23, 2011, 05:28:37 PM
Harry Dresden - Jim Parsons
(http://i2.listal.com/image/807783/600full-jim-parsons.jpg)(http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/10/20/jim-parsons/jim-parsons_blog.jpg)

*dives behind cover*
I could actually see that. He's kind of a tall string bean kind of guy, does humor well, does snappishness well, he's a fine actor who has shown himself capable of convincingly delivering terms that he doesn't have the first clue about in real life, and with some stubble there he actually looks the part. That is not at all a dive-for-cover sort of call, I think it's a pretty good call.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on August 23, 2011, 10:09:10 PM
I could see it. DEFINITELY not my first choice, but I wouldn't complain long or loud if he was cast. My only concern is he doesn't look menacing at all, and whilst Harry isn't some sort of bouncer/intimidator, Parsons looks almost like a teen.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on August 23, 2011, 10:11:32 PM
Eh, I don't really see him as Harry.  Not my cup 'o tea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 23, 2011, 10:19:38 PM
How about Giampaolo Morelli then?

(http://www.divertimento.it/fnts/divertimento/immagini/400x290/coliandro05-9107812.jpg) (http://film.35mm.it/multimedia/piano17/Giampaolo-Morelli-03.jpg)
(http://static.blogo.it/tvblog/giampaolo-morelli-alias-lispettore-coliandro/GiampaoloMorelli2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 24, 2011, 03:32:50 PM
I could see it. DEFINITELY not my first choice, but I wouldn't complain long or loud if he was cast. My only concern is he doesn't look menacing at all, and whilst Harry isn't some sort of bouncer/intimidator, Parsons looks almost like a teen.
a geeky teen who doesnt exercise.  If he really committed and spent some time building some basic muscles over his skinny frame, maybe.  But ya, harry is supposed to be wiry, but still more physically formidable that sheldon. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BenGrimm69 on August 25, 2011, 02:15:01 AM
Maybe Joe Manganiello as Micheal
not sure about Harry, his height and sense of humor will be tough
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on August 25, 2011, 06:43:05 AM
Sophia Myles for Aurora.
http://www.qpicture.com/artist/sophia-myles/image-sophia-myles-321860
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on August 25, 2011, 12:24:24 PM
^ or Lily.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: nickh0801 on August 25, 2011, 04:44:43 PM
There's another site casting TDF...not sure if it's been mention on here yet, but I'm not going through all 200 plus pages to find out.. lol

http://thefaust.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/lets-castthe-dresden-files/#comment-3641


I'm one of the few that thinks Harry should be played by Blackthorne on the big screen.  I know the t.v. show is pretty much separate from the books and any film that could be made, but still, to me, Blackthorne IS Harry.    Probably because I watched the tv series before reading any of the books, but that's who I imagine while reading, so anyone else would be a huge let down for me....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on August 26, 2011, 03:29:11 AM
Harry Dresden - Jim Parsons
(http://i2.listal.com/image/807783/600full-jim-parsons.jpg)(http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/10/20/jim-parsons/jim-parsons_blog.jpg)

*dives behind cover*

no i could not respect any harry that i could reasonably expect to take in a fight
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on August 26, 2011, 03:52:21 AM
There's another site casting TDF...not sure if it's been mention on here yet, but I'm not going through all 200 plus pages to find out.. lol

http://thefaust.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/lets-castthe-dresden-files/#comment-3641


I'm one of the few that thinks Harry should be played by Blackthorne on the big screen.  I know the t.v. show is pretty much separate from the books and any film that could be made, but still, to me, Blackthorne IS Harry.    Probably because I watched the tv series before reading any of the books, but that's who I imagine while reading, so anyone else would be a huge let down for me....

Oh, I definitely want Blackthorne as Harry!
Parsons is skinny and tall, so not a bad choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 26, 2011, 06:32:04 AM
Probably because I watched the tv series before reading any of the books, but that's who I imagine while reading, so anyone else would be a huge let down for me....
I also saw the TV show before reading the books, but I still don't think Blackthorne looks like Harry. Basically no one on that show was anything like the book descriptions.


On a different note, I see DB Woodside as Sanja:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Sanja.jpg)


And young Rose McGowan as Molly:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Molly.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tim2.0 on August 26, 2011, 03:00:35 PM
ok wow the rose mcgowan is perfect for molly.. now time
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on August 28, 2011, 01:27:08 AM
I posted a pretty much full casting list about...17 pages back, but didn't provide any pictures.  Here goes, then for the main male characters (I'm still going back and forth on the Senior Council, so they're absent from this list):

Harry: Zachary Levi (for early 30s Harry)
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT5ft-AyATQCMfD9NJVEuf7-o1jwvZvM2wxu8JOdY593PidQA5fpA)

Thomas: Matt Bomer
(http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2010/07/bomer-wet/matt-bomer-wet-tshirt-02.jpg)

Morgan: Stephen Lang
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPFesdiMN9SSfMRNPnNL8mKhnx2tRLDVbIttjK5z4M4xXS3lA6)

Michael: Tom Selleck or Liam Neeson
(http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2007/03/26/previews/Tom%20Selleck-DGG-014821.jpg) (http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/liam-neeson.jpg)

Marcone: Edward Norton
(http://content1.catalog.photos.msn.com/ds/pic-en-us/picenus_msnentertainment/MSNE/CE1C19BB-B663-464F-AC24-0AF5598F37FF.jpg)

Nicodemus: Robert Knepper (I'm drawing a blank on how old Nic is supposed to look)
(http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/robert_knepper_.jpg)

Sanya: Mykel Shannon Jenkins
(http://www.kinoserial.com/photos_people/mykel_shannon_jenkins_3.jpg)

Fr. Forthill: Ron Rifkin
(http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Alzheimer+Association+17th+Annual+Night+Sardi+diHQjh3utJll.jpg)

Mort: David H. Lawrence III
(http://images.wikia.com/lostpedia/fr/images/1/14/David_H_Lawrence.jpg)

Butters: Breckin Meyer
(http://www.celebs101.com/gallery/Breckin_Meyer/189456/Breckin_Meyer_5.jpg)

Kincaid: Christian Slater
(http://www.cityofbonesmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Christian-Slater.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 28, 2011, 01:45:53 AM
Butters: Breckin Meyer
(http://www.celebs101.com/gallery/Breckin_Meyer/189456/Breckin_Meyer_5.jpg)
He is sooooo not geeky looking enough to be Butters.

David Krumholtz is my Butters:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/WaldoButters.jpg)


I have so many photos I could flood with for so many characters, but I won't right now. I have realized, however, that there are a great many female characters with white hair. It's a little odd.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on August 28, 2011, 01:49:54 AM
And for females:

Murphy: Renee O'Connor (borrowing the picture from earlier in the thread)
(http://joxer.com.br/images/gabrielle_(69).jpg)

Lea: Kate Beckinsale or Famke Janssen
(http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/van_helsing/kate_beckinsale/vanpred.jpg) (http://www.palzoo.net/file/pic/user/Famke-Janssen.jpg)

Mab: Sophie Marceau or Bridget Moynahan
(http://sophiemarceau.fansiter.com/pictures/is-french-actress-who.jpg) (http://www.myspacelayz.com/import/graphics/BridgetMoynahan/Bridget-Moynahan-1242379.jpg)

Molly: Amber Heard
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GO6HXStgXBo/TbkgVz8RezI/AAAAAAAACx4/mZHVBt-F_yU/s1600/amber+heard_only_pic.jpg)

Lara: Yvonne Strahovski (I might have a teeny tiny crush on her...*cough, cough*)
(http://gallery.strahotski.com/galleries/appearances/other-appearances/yvonne_strahovski_pics.jpg)

Charity: Elisabeth Rohm
(http://www.hairfinder.com/celebritypictures/elisabeth-rohm-3.jpg)

Gard: Tricia Helfer
(http://wallcrow.com/images/T/Tricia%20Helfer/Tricia%20Helfer-0413.jpg)

Lasciel/Lash: Kristen Bell or Elizabeth Banks (KB is my preference)
(http://blog.rounds.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/kristen-bell.jpg) (http://www.topnews.in/files/images/ElizabethBanks1.jpg)

Elaine: Lake Bell or Sarah Wayne Callies
(http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2007/10/17/previews/Lake%20Bell-JTM-030292.jpg) (http://www.triviatribute.com/images4/sarahwaynecallies5.jpg)

Luccio, post Dead Beat: Lauren Cohan
(http://www.straitpinkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/lauren-cohan-2.jpg)

Georgia: Amy Acker
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_be29zjTcK5I/TRLvvAHOUPI/AAAAAAAAIlU/ujuY-1VZJpI/s1600/AMy+Acker+Hot+Wallpaper+2.jpg)

Maeve: Amanda Crew
(http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/amanda-crew/amanda-crew-20090727-525363.jpg)

Lily: Hayden Panettiere
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZhsEFoELYqc/TOr4Q8qXN7I/AAAAAAAAAOU/O0KLE5-m-nI/s400/hayden-panettiere-400a0507.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bango Shank on August 28, 2011, 04:50:16 AM
Was watching TV and stumbled upon this. Thought I'd throw it up for the masses:

Erika Christensen as Murphy:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 28, 2011, 08:05:10 AM
Was watching TV and stumbled upon this. Thought I'd throw it up for the masses:

Erika Christensen as Murphy
Not a terrible choice, but I'd still say Miss O'Connor is a better fit.


Responding to someone a little bit earlier, I disagree on Amy Acker as Georgia. I always saw her as Elaine.
I see Alyson Hannigan as Georgia:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Georgia.jpg)

Incidentally, I see Nicolas Brenden as Billy. (Not deliberately, it just worked out that way.)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Billy.jpg)


And today I found my perfect images for Mother Summer
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/mothersummer.jpg)

and Mother Winter
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/motherwinter.jpg)

(Helen Mirren and Anjelica Huston for those who don't recognize them)

And (last one for this post, I promise) I would definitely, definitely, definitely cast Christina Ricci as Lasciel, because she can look like:
1) The innocent Sheila
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Sheila.jpg)

2) The Temptress
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Lasciel.jpg)

3) The Angel
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Lash.jpg)

and I think she could truly play all those roles as well. Not every actress has the range for that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 28, 2011, 05:30:25 PM
Morgan: Stephen Lang
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPFesdiMN9SSfMRNPnNL8mKhnx2tRLDVbIttjK5z4M4xXS3lA6)
Clancy Brown is still my first choice, but Lang is a good backup.

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Nicodemus: Robert Knepper (I'm drawing a blank on how old Nic is supposed to look)
(http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/robert_knepper_.jpg)
Never seen him in anything, but he looks plenty intimidating.

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Butters: Breckin Meyer
(http://www.celebs101.com/gallery/Breckin_Meyer/189456/Breckin_Meyer_5.jpg)
No. He looks way too smug and douche-y for butters. He could be Rudolph, though.

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Kincaid: Christian Slater
(http://www.cityofbonesmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Christian-Slater.jpg)
I'm confused. Isn't Kincaid supposed to be a badass, and look like someone you wouldn't want to mess with? When I see Christian Slater, all I see is the idiot from Alone In The Dark. (Ok, he was good in True Romance, but that's it.)


And today I found my perfect images for Mother Summer
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/mothersummer.jpg)

I completely support this casting choice, because Hellen Mirren is awesome.

And I think I've found a good Grevane.
Lance Henriksen
(http://www.filmsinreview.com/archives/images/2008/07/lancehenriksen.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 30, 2011, 12:57:46 AM
Lance Henriksen is a good choice for Grevane.

Isn't Kincaid supposed to be a badass, and look like someone you wouldn't want to mess with?
Absotively.

I think I could see either of these men as Kincaid:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Kincaid1.jpg)
(Chris Hemsworth)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Kincaid2.jpg)
(Christian Kane)


In a similar vein, Hendricks:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Hendricks.jpg)
(Andrew Bryniarski )
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 30, 2011, 02:33:40 AM
I'm sorry Hendricks doesn't wear makeup and that guy has eyeshadow on.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 30, 2011, 03:59:38 AM
I'm sorry Hendricks doesn't wear makeup and that guy has eyeshadow on.
? ? ?
...Eyeshadow? I think you're seeing things. Or perhaps I was too heavy-handed when I made his eyebrows red, in which case I can dial back the color. But mostly I think you must be seeing things. At most he has a little guyliner on.
It hardly makes the man incapable of being Hendricks, in any case. Last time I checked, eyeliner washed off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on August 30, 2011, 04:09:27 AM
? He is wearing make up
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 30, 2011, 08:46:33 AM
Okay not eyeshadow but guyliner??? Gimme a break.  And somebody has dialed it back I think.
But I'm not quite into his looks for Hendricks even without the guyliner.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on August 30, 2011, 11:08:36 AM
I see Alyson Hannigan as Georgia:
Incidentally, I see Nicolas Brenden as Billy. (Not deliberately, it just worked out that way.)
Wow... they're... kinda perfect, aren't they?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: nickh0801 on August 30, 2011, 01:53:54 PM
Well I think I've found my perfect Laura Raith...

Sinful Mandy


yes, she's a nude model, but still.... she has the body and the seductivity    :)

I still think Paul Bettney is perfect for Kincaid and Eric Roberts as Marcone.

Still trying to find the rest that I think are "perfect" fits...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on August 30, 2011, 02:26:52 PM
well if we're gonna go ahead and throw in pornstars as casting for lara I could say recommend mindy main or stoya as decent typecast as well.

on the subject of hendricks, how about kevin mckidd

(http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://singlegalsdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/kevin-mckidd.jpg&imgrefurl=http://dailyyummo.blogspot.com/2009/07/new-man-on-grey.html&usg=__zeSQ9yxt-QDtoaYs-d5ijZHhPI0=&h=600&w=400&sz=34&hl=en&start=44&sig2=Cg0hpJ9_-v6VGmurQAmUIw&zoom=1&tbnid=fUlFrkLYm4rgtM:&tbnh=153&tbnw=114&ei=8fFcTq22JYjq0gHr-IiYAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dkevin%2Bmckidd%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DX%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D677%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=186&vpy=214&dur=746&hovh=275&hovw=183&tx=116&ty=153&page=3&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:44)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Baalirock on August 30, 2011, 02:38:38 PM
well if we're gonna go ahead and throw in pornstars as casting for lara I could say recommend mindy main or stoya as decent typecast as well.

on the subject of hendricks, how about kevin mckidd

While both of those ladies can certainly handle the sexiness of the role (MM more than Stoya, IMHO)... can they act?

I love Kevin McKidd, and would love to see him cast here somewhere... but I feel his talents would be wasted as Hendricks.  The guy has like 2 speaking lines in the whole of the books.  I COULD see McKidd playing Michael Carpenter, though.  He can definitely pull off the humanity that role requires.

How about Paul Giamatti as Mort?  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: nickh0801 on August 30, 2011, 02:50:53 PM
MM doesn't look the part, and Stoya is too small....

And nude models are not porn stars   lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on August 30, 2011, 02:59:22 PM
pornstars act?  :o

not exactly the main job requirement is it? that's my point actually, we may want to consider beyond initial type casting to whether they can portray the character, OR why not just make it animated?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on August 30, 2011, 03:47:36 PM
Kevin Mckidd as Micheal sound great. 

And for Lara http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BODgyNTQxMjM5NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTExOTAyMw@@._V1._SY314_CR8,0,214,314_.jpg
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: nickh0801 on August 30, 2011, 03:49:16 PM
Kevin Mckidd as Micheal sound great. 

And for Lara http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BODgyNTQxMjM5NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTExOTAyMw@@._V1._SY314_CR8,0,214,314_.jpg

Busted link... it says referral denied....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 30, 2011, 04:02:01 PM
I love Kevin McKidd, and would love to see him cast here somewhere... but I feel his talents would be wasted as Hendricks. 

He's so frakking tiny though... you don't see it in Rome so much, but definitely in Journeyman
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Baalirock on August 30, 2011, 04:14:39 PM
He's so frakking tiny though... you don't see it in Rome so much, but definitely in Journeyman

Tiny... but fierce!!!  :)  Yeah, I had to.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: nickh0801 on August 30, 2011, 04:51:42 PM
Tiny... but fierce!!!  :)  Yeah, I had to.

lol 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 30, 2011, 06:00:08 PM
Wow... they're... kinda perfect, aren't they?
  ;D
on the subject of hendricks, how about kevin mckidd
As mentioned, not a huge guy, where Hendricks is. He's also kind of monosyllabic. I'm telling you,  Andrew Bryniarski. He is good at big, scary thugs who speak with their expression and body language more than their words. If you've seen Firefly, you know what I'm talking about.
Kevin McKidd would be better elsewhere, I think. He seems to be able to pull off quite a few different looks and make it look natural, so maybe he could be Martin. He'd also be fine for Michael, though not my first choice.
...This photo right here, though:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Rudolph.jpg)
really makes me think 'Rudolph.'
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on August 30, 2011, 06:43:27 PM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0347149/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0347149/)

sienna guillory as Murpy, she was Jill Valentine in Resident Evil,

and What about Milla Jovovich as Lea? She's got that look like she's beautiful yet deadly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 30, 2011, 06:57:36 PM
and What about Milla Jovovich as Lea? She's got that look like she's beautiful yet deadly.
She does, I agree, but I see her more as Lara. As I said earlier:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/LaraRaith.jpg) (http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Lara.jpg)

I would not cast anyone but Christina Hendricks as Lea.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Lea_2.jpg)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Lea.jpg)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/deadlybeautiful.jpg)
Beautiful, sexy, deadly; check, check, check.


Speaking of beautiful and deadly, Summer Glau as the Summer Lady:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Aurora.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 30, 2011, 08:45:45 PM
  ;DAs mentioned, not a huge guy, where Hendricks is. He's also kind of monosyllabic. I'm telling you,  Andrew Bryniarski. He is good at big, scary thugs who speak with their expression and body language more than their words. If you've seen Firefly, you know what I'm talking about.
Kevin McKidd would be better elsewhere, I think. He seems to be able to pull off quite a few different looks and make it look natural, so maybe he could be Martin. He'd also be fine for Michael, though not my first choice.
...This photo right here, though:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Rudolph.jpg)
really makes me think 'Rudolph.'

Nice looking guy but not weaselly ( my apologies to weasels) enough to be Rudy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 30, 2011, 09:41:01 PM
not weaselly enough to be Rudy.
You are mistaking character for looks. Rudy is a weaselly guy, personality-wise, but he's not described as a weaselly looking guy. He's actually described as clean-cut and rather good-looking (except when Harry makes him look more weaselly than he is in the illusion.) At worst he looks smug and acts weaselly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on August 30, 2011, 10:45:22 PM
My idea for Rudy is a sort of Iago type person.  so I'm thinking Kenneth Bragan, I do not think that I'm spelling ht elast name right but he played Lockhart in the second Harry Potter movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 31, 2011, 02:19:15 AM
I think we should put some eyeglasses on McKidd and have him appear in Harry's summoning circle.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 31, 2011, 04:47:02 AM
I think we should put some eyeglasses on McKidd and have him appear in Harry's summoning circle.
You think he has the appearance of a giant crab?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 31, 2011, 07:13:14 AM
I don't think Clancy, I think that was his name, looked like a crab?
The one Harry summoned to ask some questions of in one of the early books.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 31, 2011, 08:20:54 AM
I don't think Clancy, I think that was his name, looked like a crab?
The one Harry summoned to ask some questions of in one of the early books.

Chauncy looked like something with crablike pincers and a beak of some sort.

How about Alex Kingston as Titania or Mab?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Baalirock on August 31, 2011, 12:50:52 PM
Titania is harder to cast, since we haven't actually met her in the books yet.  My pick for Mab (as pointed out by my lovely wife) is Natalie Dormer.  Check her out in the Tudors. 

(http://i2.listal.com/image/1184528/500full.jpg)

"Mine! Mine! Mine!"

I could see Alex Kingston playing Lea, though.  She could pull off the godmother vibe.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 31, 2011, 03:20:31 PM
Chauncy looked like something with crablike pincers and a beak of some sort.
And don't forget covered in chitin. Pincers and chitin make for something at least similar to a giant crab, though its mouth might be close to a squid. Either way, not very human-like.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on August 31, 2011, 03:38:18 PM
Titania is harder to cast, since we haven't actually met her in the books yet.  My pick for Mab (as pointed out by my lovely wife) is Natalie Dormer.  Check her out in the Tudors. 

(http://i2.listal.com/image/1184528/500full.jpg)

"Mine! Mine! Mine!"

I could see Alex Kingston playing Lea, though.  She could pull off the godmother vibe.

While she's definitely attractive enough to play the part in my mind, I've always thought Mab appeared older, as in middle aged.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 31, 2011, 04:17:20 PM
You think he has the appearance of a giant crab?

Bah, that's makeup's job.      I think he would be perfect to give that crab the right personality.

Urbane, sympathetic, intellectual even.   With deadly hints of ulterior agenda.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 31, 2011, 04:20:34 PM
While she's definitely attractive enough to play the part

So long as they don't put her hair up in one of those Tudors dos that make her head look long and boxy.    Like a refrigerator lying on its side, with a Natalie Dormer mask on the narrow bit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 31, 2011, 05:16:23 PM
Bah, that's makeup's job.      I think he would be perfect to give that crab the right personality.

Urbane, sympathetic, intellectual even.   With deadly hints of ulterior agenda.
Kelsey Grammar?  He did good in Beast in X-men and did urbane evil great in the Simpsons. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 31, 2011, 05:17:30 PM
Kelsey Grammar?

I'm still seeing Frasier Crane, but if it works for y'all...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Baalirock on August 31, 2011, 05:30:39 PM
Sideshow Chauncy?  I could only get behind that if they cast David Hyde Pierce as a  "good" summoned entity... like the Loa Harry calls on and puts in a doll's body.  Just his voice, of course.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on August 31, 2011, 05:37:17 PM
Sideshow Chauncy? 

Somehow I'm thinking that would give the whole production a bit of a Dogma flavor.   

Not a bad thing in itself.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on August 31, 2011, 06:03:45 PM
I rather like the idea of Kelsey Grammar voicing Chauncy.
I could only get behind that if they cast David Hyde Pierce as a  "good" summoned entity... like the Loa Harry calls on and puts in a doll's body.  Just his voice, of course.
Ulsharavas is referred to as a 'she,' so that might not work too well. I can't think of another good summoned entity right now, apart from the little fairies, and I don't really see him as Toot-Toot. (I see Seth Green as Toot-Toot)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Baalirock on August 31, 2011, 07:35:19 PM
I rather like the idea of Kelsey Grammar voicing Chauncy.Ulsharavas is referred to as a 'she,' so that might not work too well. I can't think of another good summoned entity right now, apart from the little fairies, and I don't really see him as Toot-Toot. (I see Seth Green as Toot-Toot)

Thanks, I couldn't remember the Loa's name, and I completely forgot it was female.  Ah, Well.

Seth Green as Toot-Toot is brilliant!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on September 01, 2011, 02:54:55 PM
Quote
She does, I agree, but I see her more as Lara. As I said earlier:


I would not cast anyone but Christina Hendricks as Lea.

Beautiful, sexy, deadly; check, check, check.

I like both of those!  Summer needs to be something else where she gets to be tough and kick ass.  She could be like one of the raiths.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on September 01, 2011, 03:10:13 PM
I'm confused. Isn't Kincaid supposed to be a badass, and look like someone you wouldn't want to mess with? When I see Christian Slater, all I see is the idiot from Alone In The Dark. (Ok, he was good in True Romance, but that's it.)

Eh, I haven't seen Christian Slater in anything in ages, so I was just going off that picture of him, which makes him look like he could fit the bill.

How about Liev Schreiber, instead?
(http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Liev_Schreiber-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on September 01, 2011, 03:34:16 PM
How about Liev Schreiber, instead?

True fact: Liev Schreiber's voice puts me to sleep.    Anyone remember when they used him to narrate NOVA?   Those are the episodes I could never stay awake through.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 01, 2011, 06:06:02 PM
Seth Green as Toot-Toot is brilliant!
;D
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/toot.jpg)
(click it, it gets bigger)

Summer needs to be something else where she gets to be tough and kick ass.  She could be like one of the raiths.
The only one who really gets much face-time is Lara, though. Much as I like watching Summer kick ass, I just think Aurora would be an interesting character for her, and I think she looks the part.


Next, I know we haven't actually seen Titania except at a distance, but in my head she looks like this:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Titania.jpg)
(Melinda Clarke)


And, moving away from the realm of Faerie, here is how I see the Gatekeeper:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Rashid.jpg)
(Sendhil Ramamurthy, aged up thirty or forty years)

And, possibly because she's described as very tall, I always saw Martha Liberty as Grace Jones:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/MarthaLiberty.jpg)

The late Floyd Westerman as Listens-to-Wind:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/ListensToWind.jpg)

Michelle Yeoh as Mai:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Mai.jpg)

Jeff Bridges as Ebenezer:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/EbenezerBlackstaff.jpg)

Only missing the Merlin and Cristos and I'll have my full Senior Council.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on September 01, 2011, 06:20:00 PM
I'd go with Terrence Stamp or Bill Nighy for the Merlin. Although I'm not sure how either would look with a full-on Gandalf/Dumbledore beard.

And that picture of Eb is pure win.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 01, 2011, 07:03:03 PM
And that picture of Eb is pure win.
Why thank you :)

I kind of see Hugh Laurie as the Merlin. I dunno, how do you think he looks with a full beard?
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Langtry.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on September 01, 2011, 07:17:49 PM
Like he's trying out for a role as Osama except he needs to work on turban, upfinger and robe.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on September 01, 2011, 08:03:53 PM
Why thank you :)

I kind of see Hugh Laurie as the Merlin. I dunno, how do you think he looks with a full beard?
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Langtry.jpg)
Give him the long gandalf hair too.  Right there he looks weird to me, but i think its the long beard next to the short hair thats throwing me off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 01, 2011, 08:11:07 PM
Give him the long gandalf hair too.  Right there he looks weird to me, but i think its the long beard next to the short hair thats throwing me off.
Okay, I'll work on it. Hair isn't as easy as it might look, though.


edit: Photo should be updated now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Baalirock on September 01, 2011, 08:37:39 PM
Great shots of the senior council, and I especially like The Dude as Ebeneezer.  Bonus points for Grace Jones, too!  Anything w/ Melinda Clarke gets my vote, and Seth Green as Toot-Toot made me LOL.  I got some weird looks at work.

I could see Liev Schreiber as Kincaid, ESPECIALLY if Kincaid turns out to be an enemy or traitor later in the series.  Liev always seems to be playing a creepy guy who ends up being the traitor.  See also:  Rufus Sewell

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRRFtF_Ooe4pE5WcySmIfn-)

While watching Spartacus: Blood and Sand with my wife last night, she suggested Lucy Lawless as Lea.  I was only really familiar w/ Lucy in Xena and other bit parts she's done, but after watching Spartacus, I can say with no doubt that she could TOTALLY pull off a creepy godmother thing.  Ye Gods!

(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Content/100125/News/Todays_News_Our_Take/4_thurs/100128spartacus_lucylawless1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 01, 2011, 09:02:12 PM
I agree with Lucy Lawless.
And I loved the Eb and some of the others. I always imagined Martha Liberty as a Della Reese type. But I won't go with the Merlin by Hugh Laurie. Hugh is much better than the Merlin. Terrence Stamp is a good choice, IMO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 01, 2011, 09:43:48 PM
Lucy Lawless as Lea. 
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Content/100125/News/Todays_News_Our_Take/4_thurs/100128spartacus_lucylawless1.jpg)
Okay, yeah, I can see that.

In other news, I just decided that Jamie Hyneman should be Mac. I don't know if he would do it, but if he did I would be soooo happy.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Mac.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 02, 2011, 01:43:40 AM
^
Yes, LMAO - Jamie would make a great Mac.

Sooo - how about Adam for Butters - he's dippy enough.

Wes Studi for Listens to Wind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 02, 2011, 01:46:06 AM
WOW! How I didn't think on that before? JAmie is a perfect Mac!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cdawgi on September 02, 2011, 07:05:33 AM
None of the above. James Marsters would be the logical choice to play Harry. He seemed rather tall from the few episodes of Buffy that I watched and he is the official voice of Harry Dresden. Still thinking on who would be good for the other roles, but don't you think Christian Bale would make a suitable Thomas?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 02, 2011, 07:17:40 AM
Sooo - how about Adam for Butters - he's dippy enough.
Yeah, he's got the character for it, for sure. He's a bit tall and redheaded for Butters, but Lord of the Rings proved that height can be changed, and he already changes his hair color. (I still picture David Krumholtz, though, and likely always will)

Glad I'm getting some agreement on Jamie  ;D  I was just re-listening to Dead Beat, and heard Mac described as "bald and good at it" and he just popped into my head. The more I thought about it, the better his demeanor fit.

James Marsters... seemed rather tall from the few episodes of Buffy that I watched
That's television magic for you. I have met the man, and he was definitely not more than three inches taller than me, so he's 5'9" at most. Bear in mind that he was often on screen with Sarah Michelle Gellar, who is 5'2" or less.
Besides, he's too pretty to be anyone but Thomas  ;)

(P.S. Christian Bale is not pretty enough to be Thomas.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on September 02, 2011, 02:46:24 PM
But if Jamie was cast as Mac, he'd have to shave his mustache!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 02, 2011, 03:51:35 PM
But if Jamie was cast as Mac, he'd have to shave his mustache!
I don't see why. Descriptions say he is bald, but don't specify clean-shaven. As least, I don't recall a description saying he's clean-shaven. (The fact that he is described as wearing black slacks and a white shirt just clinches Jamie for me.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on September 03, 2011, 08:03:32 PM
I love how psyched she looks to be getting her picture with the Bruce.

I was just trying to be in character.  Yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 03, 2011, 09:07:46 PM
That was you, Priscellie? Cool  8)


So, I see Mouse as a shaggy Irish Wolfhound:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Mouse.jpg)
(They're huge)

And Mister as a big Scottish Fold:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Mister.jpg)

I would love Eddie Izzard as Bob:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Bob.jpg)


Outside the household, Ron Glass as Rawlins:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Rawlins.jpg)
I don't have photos for most of the rest of the police force.

Was re-reading Summer Knight so I did photos for Lily, Fix, and Meryl:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Lily.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Fix.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Meryl.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on September 03, 2011, 09:16:24 PM
I was just trying to be in character.  Yes.

You have no need to justify. It was The Bruce. That's reason enough to be psyched up.

Also, Stephen Fry for Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on September 03, 2011, 10:03:37 PM
So, I see Mouse as a shaggy Irish Wolfhound:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Mouse.jpg)

Whaaa?!  :o :o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lara on September 03, 2011, 10:26:47 PM
So Nathan Fillion is out front?  I absolutely love the man, but I can't see him as Harry....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 03, 2011, 10:43:25 PM
Whaaa?!  :o :o
I don't quite understand your confusion. Could you elaborate on it?

So Nathan Fillion is out front?  I absolutely love the man, but I can't see him as Harry....
Please, allow me:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Harry.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on September 03, 2011, 10:50:26 PM
I don't quite understand your confusion. Could you elaborate on it?

Jim has mentioned many times that Mouse is a Caucasian Mountain Dog (or one of the variant names of that breed).

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ctMJzr589O4/TEcK8BLbN7I/AAAAAAAAGPo/O0_3j6w76nA/s400/caucasian+mountain+dog.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 03, 2011, 10:54:22 PM
Jim has mentioned many times that Mouse is a Caucasian Mountain Dog
*shrug* Jim has also mentioned that Erica Cerra is his casting choice for Susan, but that doesn't keep me from seeing her as Gina Torres. Huge, shaggy, grinning Irish wolfhouds look like the initial picture I formed of Mouse after reading descriptions of him in the novels.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on September 04, 2011, 02:48:16 AM
Never seen him in anything, but he looks plenty intimidating.

Check out Prison Break.  Robert Knepper's character T-Bag is one of the freakiest bad guys I've ever seen on tv.  Before watching that show (I just finished watching the second season on Netflix), I don't think I'd ever seen a character that actually made my skin crawl.  Perfect for Nicodemus!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lara on September 04, 2011, 11:18:08 PM
Re: Nathon Fillion.  Thank you, NeuroHeart.... I'm beginning to see the light!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 05, 2011, 01:50:01 AM
*shrug* Jim has also mentioned that Erica Cerra is his casting choice for Susan, but that doesn't keep me from seeing her as Gina Torres. Huge, shaggy, grinning Irish wolfhouds look like the initial picture I formed of Mouse after reading descriptions of him in the novels.

Mountain Dogs have apparently been known to challenge bears - they are also freaking enormous.  A little girl could very easily use one as a pony without bothering it a bit.
  Wolfhounds don't have anywhere near the Mountain Dogs mass, nor frankly their oneryness.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 05, 2011, 02:30:44 AM
Mountain Dogs have apparently been known to challenge bears - they are also freaking enormous.  A little girl could very easily use one as a pony without bothering it a bit.
  Wolfhounds don't have anywhere near the Mountain Dogs mass, nor frankly their oneryness.
I'm not saying otherwise, but Irish Wolfhounds are also included in the largest breeds in the world, and they are friendly and shaggy, so that's just always how I saw Mouse.
According to http://www.petinsuranceonline.co.uk/articles/ten-biggest-dog-breeds-in-the-world.html Mountain Dogs aren't good with children, and can be unmanageable if not trained right.
That page also mentions the Tibetan Mastiff, which could also be a good choice for Mouse, considering his origin. And, I mean, just look at this puppy:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/puppyMouse.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on September 05, 2011, 02:35:38 AM
According to http://www.petinsuranceonline.co.uk/articles/ten-biggest-dog-breeds-in-the-world.html Mountain Dogs aren't good with children, and can be unmanageable if not trained right.

Yeah, normal Mountain Dogs aren't good with kids. But Mouse isn't exactly normal. I've always imagined Mouse looking more like a big German Shepherd or something.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 05, 2011, 02:36:44 AM
Yes, a true Mountain dog has to be well socialized but remember Mouse is way more than just a dog.
Leah called him an Ice Demon from Tibet.
And a Mountain Dog is what JB sees for him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 05, 2011, 02:45:49 AM
Awwww! Such a lovely puppy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on September 05, 2011, 02:57:25 AM
remember this is casting though. If Caucasian shepherds are that aggressive/dominant it may be better to hire a more social breed, like the Tibetan mastiff or some mix that people won't be able to place. keep in mind the issues of hiring well trained animal performers, it's not like a company can get a purebred puppy, perfectly train them and have them ready as an adult dog for a certain role within a standard timetable and without assuming the risks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 05, 2011, 07:52:58 AM
I'm actually liking this Tibetan Mastiff thing more and more. There are some I see that have manes like lions, which seems to fit with the descriptions of Mouse:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/MastiffMouse.jpg)
They're also guard dogs from Tibet, which is fitting in general. Big, friendly most of the time...
...can be scary:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/ScaryMouse.jpg)

And they're big enough for a child to ride around on. I might be sold.

Re: Nathon Fillion.  Thank you, NeuroHeart.... I'm beginning to see the light!
Happy to help   ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: talktotheHand on September 05, 2011, 11:42:50 AM
I Agree

Tibetan Mastiff - FTW
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 05, 2011, 02:17:22 PM
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/puppyMouse.jpg)

Look at those eyes. They're saying "I WILL F*** YOU UP."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 05, 2011, 05:31:18 PM
Look at those eyes. They're saying "I WILL F*** YOU UP."
I know, right?  :D


Moving on, here are my thoughts on Margaret and Malcolm Dresden:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/MargaretLefay.jpg) (http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/MalcolmDresden.jpg)


And some commonly seen Wardens
Ramirez:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Ramirez.jpg)

Morgan:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Morgan.jpg)

Luccio pre-swap:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/preswapluccio.jpg)

Luccio post-swap (will killer dimples):
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/postswapluccio.jpg) (http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Lucciodimples.jpg)

And that's all the Wardens I have. Surely there are more of them, but I don't have a clear picture of them. I'm also trying to hunt for the Alphas other than Will and Georgia, but so far nothing has fit or come to mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 06, 2011, 02:34:55 PM
Olivia Wilde as Lily?

Mmm...nah.  Uber-hot with the green hair/eyes, but Wilde's got too much personality to be the scared Lily.  Besides, got her pegged as either Luccio 2.0 or Elaine.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 06, 2011, 04:10:37 PM
Wilde's got too much personality to be the scared Lily.
But don't forget, she then becomes the Summer Lady.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Lilysummerlady.jpg)
And the fae need to be that pretty.

And I see Amy Acker as Elaine:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Elaine.jpg)

I already posted my Luccio 2.0 :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mstorer3772 on September 06, 2011, 04:14:32 PM
Yes, a true Mountain dog has to be well socialized but remember Mouse is way more than just a dog.
Leah called him an Ice Demon from Tibet.

And URIEL addresses him as "little brother".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 06, 2011, 07:56:51 PM
Yes, yes, we are all aware that Mouse is not just a dog. However, a dog would need to be cast as Mouse. I will stick by the Tibetan Mastiff for that.


Anyway, moving right along, I have some Knights and a Father Forthill:

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Shiro.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Michael.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Sanja.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Forthill.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on September 06, 2011, 09:00:52 PM
^ So much yes to all your choices it's ridiculous. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 06, 2011, 09:26:20 PM
Alan Tudyk as Michael?  That's...just funny enough to work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on September 06, 2011, 09:31:46 PM
 ???. If they can get him, he can play any role he darn well pleases.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 06, 2011, 09:33:09 PM
To be fair, though, his sense of humor says "Butters" to me, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 06, 2011, 10:00:18 PM
^ So much yes to all your choices it's ridiculous. :D
Yayz  ;D
If they can get him, he can play any role he darn well pleases.
Too right! He is mainly my choice for Michael because I think he is a fantastic performer, and could deliver those righteous lines without sounding like a prick. He can also be pretty badass, even downright scary when he tries. He can get pretty buff when he tries, too, so I just think he could do it, and do it well. It would probably be a pretty interesting role to him, too.
To be fair, though, his sense of humor says "Butters" to me, though.
Well, yeah, he could probably play Butters if he wished. However, he is not anything like what I see for Butters, which is more like this:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/WaldoButters.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 06, 2011, 10:18:20 PM
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/WaldoButters.jpg)

Mmm, Butters is a confirmed coward at first, and Charlie from Numb3rs/Serenity's Mr Universe, what ever he may be, is not a coward.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 06, 2011, 10:37:08 PM
I have full confidence that Krumholtz could turn in a cowardly performance if that was needed, and he could also pull off the evolution towards greater bravery. He could give the serious moments the gravity they deserve, and he can be kind of funny and goofy, and he can also do geeky and smart. And best of all, he looks the part of a little dark-haired Jewish guy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 06, 2011, 10:43:28 PM
point taken.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on September 06, 2011, 11:01:06 PM
This is only half-joking, but I'd cast George Takei as Shiro. Partly because of his awesome voice. I mean, imagine the scene between Ursiel and Shiro with George Takei. It's awesome.

And after hearing his voice in Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, I'll say it again; Lance Henriksen for Grevane. (He was the Grim Reaper/Eric Williams, for anyone who's seen the show.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 07, 2011, 01:02:03 AM
And URIEL addresses him as "little brother".
I read that several times. What is has to do with nothing? LTW called his racoon Little Brother. It is a thing with the animals and do not necessarily means anything. St Francisco de Asis was famous for calling all the animals brothers and sisters. Uriel may just be borrowing a page of his book.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on September 07, 2011, 01:26:57 AM
I read that several times. What is has to do with nothing? LTW called his racoon Little Brother. It is a thing with the animals and do not necessarily means anything. St Francisco de Asis was famous for calling all the animals brothers and sisters. Uriel may just be borrowing a page of his book.

All true, but LTW and Francis of Assisi were both human, whereas Uriel is both nonhuman  and pedantic about proper use of names.   
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 07, 2011, 02:52:38 AM
This is only half-joking, but I'd cast George Takei as Shiro. Partly because of his awesome voice.
Takei does indeed have a wonderful voice, and I would like to hear him as Shiro. However, I always picture Shiro as rather... wispy. Takei never looked wispy.


Speaking of wispy, here is my attempt for Tessa:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Tessa.jpg)

And her sidekick:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Rosanna.jpg)
(Modeled on Marissa Miller, but I think she should be played by Rebecca Romijn)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on September 07, 2011, 04:50:12 PM
This is only half-joking, but I'd cast George Takei as Shiro. Partly because of his awesome voice. I mean, imagine the scene between Ursiel and Shiro with George Takei. It's awesome.
I had Shiro pegged as Mako personally.  He may have been a bit too tall, but if the actors for Harry and co. are properly giantish, it shouldnt be too noticeable.  Of course, he passed away a few years ago, so its not a realistic casting.  But he's basically the image I have when I read Shiro
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on September 07, 2011, 05:28:37 PM
  But he's basically the image I have when I read Shiro

My Shiro image is Takashi Shimura.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 07, 2011, 05:41:07 PM
Interesting how many different images there are for Shiro. I never saw him as anyone but Kim Chan.


So, this weekend I was thinking about who could play Martin. It's actually a fairly tricky cast, because Martin can't just be bland, he has to be a skilled enough performer to assimilate into several different looks and attitudes. Those sorts of performers are rare, and it can be difficult to remember who they are because they become so absorbed into the characters they play. But I think I've settled on Sam Rockwell:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Martin.jpg)


I also found some pictures for the Eebs. Since Esmerelda was described as a tiny woman, my instant mental image of her was Terra Jole:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/EsmareldaEeb.jpg)

Esteban was more difficult, because he needed to be dark-skinned without being of the 'original Maya' and he needed to look somewhat predatory. Now, I know this guy has been put out a few times for Rashid, but I like him as Esteban:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/EstebanEeb.jpg)

(I see/hear someone else for Rashid, anyway)


Oh! And I did the Beetle:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Beetle.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on September 07, 2011, 09:28:56 PM
Speaking of wispy, here is my attempt for Tessa:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Tessa.jpg)
*quizzical head tilt*. That's not really how I pictured her. Isn't Tessa supposed to look like a pretty fifteen-year-old with silvery hair?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on September 08, 2011, 01:04:28 AM
So, this weekend I was thinking about who could play Martin. It's actually a fairly tricky cast, because Martin can't just be bland, he has to be a skilled enough performer to assimilate into several different looks and attitudes. Those sorts of performers are rare, and it can be difficult to remember who they are because they become so absorbed into the characters they play. But I think I've settled on Sam Rockwell:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Martin.jpg)

Seconded. Sam Rockwell is awesome, even though I only saw him in Iron Man 2. (Yeah, I know, I need to watch Moon.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 08, 2011, 01:24:40 AM
Isn't Tessa supposed to look like a pretty fifteen-year-old with silvery hair?
*edit* Yeah, I had forgotten the silver hair. Her chitin is also supposed to be red. Will update.
(Man, another chick with silver/white hair. I swear Jim has some kind of fetish.)
I thought Kiera Knightly would be good for it because she is so thin and she has an unlined face, so she can look quite young.


I do recommend Moon, Tempus. He's been in things you might not remember him from, though, such as GalaxyQuest. He's really different in every film he does. Heck, I didn't even remember he was in Iron Man 2 until you mentioned it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on September 08, 2011, 01:46:02 AM
I do recommend Moon, Tempus. He's been in things you might not remember him from, though, such as GalaxyQuest. He's really different in every film he does. Heck, I didn't even remember he was in Iron Man 2 until you mentioned it.

Holy crap, I'd forgotten about Galaxy Quest.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 08, 2011, 01:54:53 AM
*cough* Charlie's angels *cough"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 08, 2011, 02:01:12 AM
And he was also the most recent Zaphod Beeblebrox.
See how good he is at assimilating? That's so Martin.


On a totally different character subject, Mark Sheppard should be Mortimer Lindquist.

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Morty.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 08, 2011, 02:06:49 AM
I disagree in that. Morty should be somebody that looks unimpressive, but can command power if needed. What about Stanley Tucci?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 08, 2011, 02:17:56 AM
...You think Mark Sheppard looks impressive?  :o
Or do you think he couldn't command power if needed? Because I have to say, I think you'd be incorrect on either count. Mark Sheppard is shorter than me, (I'm 5'6") but the man has presence to spare.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 08, 2011, 02:20:19 AM
I think he is impressive. As you said, he has presence to spare.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 08, 2011, 04:18:24 AM
Well yeah, of course he has presence, that's the reason I think he would be perfect for Mort; they're both a big presence in a little package. Put Mark Sheppard next to any guy tall enough to play Harry and he would look miniscule, but it would also be totally believable for him to stand up to someone who towered over him like that, and be believable that he has the power levels he has in terms of ectomancy. Sheppard also looks the part now that his hair is going, especially when he puts a little weight on. Obviously the actor playing Harry would need enough presence to compete, but that would be true next to almost any actor I would want to see cast in a Dresden series, because most of the characters have a lot of presence on the page. I mean, if I had my way James Marsters would be Thomas, and that man can overshadow plenty of actors in terms of presence.  So could some of my minor casting choices, like Patrick Stewart. So I guess my point is, so long as an actor has the stature and presence to play Harry, another actor having some presence would not be a problem.
And believe me, if you just saw Mark Sheppard walking down a street, he would not look 'impressive.' I ran into him at a convention, and it took me several seconds to even recognize him. He is a small and rather average-looking man, he's just a good actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 08, 2011, 04:22:04 AM
My point is I don't think that Mort have this presence. Harry, for instance, really underestimates him and I don't think anyone could underestimate Mark Sheppard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 08, 2011, 04:56:27 AM
Well, I'm clearly not going to convince you, but I'll just throw out his scared face and see if that looks anything more like early Morty.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/scaredface.jpg)

Sheppard is a good actor; I think he could be convincingly underestimated if that's what was needed. And Harry underestimating him didn't mean he had no presence. He did have presence, and any actor playing him would need to be capable of that.


edit: Oh, and here's a picture of him with a 5'3"-ish woman at the above-mentioned con, just as photographic proof that he really is kind of small and not always impressive at all.
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h121/PhoenixRoseStar/DragonCon/MarkandMagda.jpg)
He was very nice   :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on September 08, 2011, 12:56:40 PM
in terms of acting I think he could do it, but isn't Mort supposed to be short, overweight, and bald?  I kinda picture him as a mid/late forties fat man. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 08, 2011, 01:56:07 PM
Well, I'm clearly not going to convince you, but I'll just throw out his scared face and see if that looks anything more like early Morty.

Sheppard is a good actor; I think he could be convincingly underestimated if that's what was needed. And Harry underestimating him didn't mean he had no presence. He did have presence, and any actor playing him would need to be capable of that.

We clearly have different definitions. I don't see a link between impressive and tall. And I definitely don't believe Morty has presence unless he is actively doing it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on September 08, 2011, 02:20:16 PM
in terms of acting I think he could do it, but isn't Mort supposed to be short, overweight, and bald?  I kinda picture him as a mid/late forties fat man.

Yeah.  Pulling out the picture I posted a while back, here's who I think would fit that bill pretty well:

David H. Lawrence III
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTg0NDc2NTMwMl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzU2MjY1MQ@@._V1._SX214_CR0,0,214,314_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 08, 2011, 02:54:18 PM
in terms of acting I think he could do it, but isn't Mort supposed to be short, overweight, and bald?  I kinda picture him as a mid/late forties fat man.
I'm sorry, and this is in no way meant as an insult to him, but have you seen Mark Sheppard lately?
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/MarkSheppardMarkSheppardOutMeYyPxuaLxXl.jpg)
He's definitely put on some weight.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on September 08, 2011, 05:50:36 PM
I'm sorry, and this is in no way meant as an insult to him, but have you seen Mark Sheppard lately?

He's got just enough Powers Boothe in him to carry it, I think.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 08, 2011, 07:40:45 PM
Sure he can carry it, but dude's still gone a bit portly  ;)


Speaking of going portly, what about Val Kilmer as Carmichael?
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Carmichael.jpg)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/GhostCarmichael.jpg)

I also think I've settled on Dennis Haysbert as Stallings:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Stallings.jpg)

And Brenden Fehr as Tilly:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Tilly.jpg)
(He bears a resemblance to Duchovny, but he's a little more sharp-featured, so I thought he'd be a good fit.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 08, 2011, 07:42:03 PM
I think you mean Rawlings NH?
Murphy's dads old partner.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 08, 2011, 07:45:34 PM
No, believe it or not, I tend to say who I mean.
As I believe I mentioned previously, my pick for Rawlins is Ron Glass:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Rawlins.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 08, 2011, 09:45:41 PM
I like Kilmer for Ron, but Sheppard needs to do something...bigger.  He needs screen time.

I think he'd make a good Nic, although he's definitely my second choice for the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 08, 2011, 10:14:18 PM
Sheppard needs screen time.
I heartily agree! I didn't imagine him as Morty until Ghost Story, because the role got much meatier. I can't really think of any bigger roles I could see Sheppard in. I don't think he has the look for Nicodemus, though he certainly has the acting chops.
I always saw David Boreanaz as Nicodemus; he's most interesting as an actor when he's being evil.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Nicodemus.jpg)

I also considered Binder for Sheppard, but that's a one-shot character, and I think Bob Hoskins is better for Binder anyway.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Binder.jpg)

Plus, Sheppard plays a lot of villains. I'd like to see him playing against type some.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 08, 2011, 10:17:27 PM
Boreanaz for Nic?  Nuh-uh.

(http://tinyurl.com/3sopfvd)

I would HATE to have met Sir Anthony Hopkins when filming Silence, the man was terrifying.  The definition of a gentleman monster.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 08, 2011, 10:32:36 PM
Boreanaz for Nic?  Nuh-uh.

(http://tinyurl.com/3sopfvd)
Even in Silence, I think he looked a little old for Nicodemus, and he certainly hasn't gotten any younger. (the Fallen look perpetually young, and Nic is described as looking thirty-something, if I recall.)
I think most people would cast Hopkins as Odin, though he might not want to do that twice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 08, 2011, 11:41:37 PM
Like I said, Sheppard is my second choice behind Hopkins.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Silverblaze on September 09, 2011, 01:05:26 AM
I'm seriously thinking Kris Kristofferson playing the role of Ebenezer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 09, 2011, 01:28:39 AM
Kristofferson is actually fairly close to my choice of Jeff Bridges, looks-wise, but I think Bridges is the better choice acting-wise.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 09, 2011, 01:45:35 PM
I'm a fan of Klodi for Leah, but as for acting ability and looks, has anyone mentioned Sara Rafferty, recently of 'Suits' on USA?

On the show, she's very good at switching mood and personality at the drop of a hat.  I could see her playing sweet/crazy very well, and she has the looks.
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQTWQjvJRN1S-P6WxO9vgfNXgZELr023MTlb_-lwGS_EYsm59py)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on September 09, 2011, 02:52:00 PM
For Mort, I'm kind of torn between Wallace Shawn and Kurt Fuller

Wallace Shawn
Pros: Short, bald, and doesn't look very impressive. Also, Vizzini!
Cons: Might be hard to take him seriously when he's actually being serious.

Kurt Fuller
Pros: Bald, and can definitely pull off Mort's not really caring about anyone apart from him and the ghosts. Also, can definetly do badass when he needs to
Cons: The dude's pretty tall. 6'3'', according to IMDB. (I'd like to point out that I had an image of him as Mort before I saw any of Supernatural, although that is what convinced me that he could be a badass if needed.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 09, 2011, 02:57:02 PM
Oh great, every subsequent readthrough of GS is going to have Mort in Vizzini's voice.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 09, 2011, 05:57:24 PM
Oh great, every subsequent readthrough of GS is going to have Mort in Vizzini's voice.
Yeah, I'll stick with Sheppard, I like his voice much more  ;)

Okay... what do I have that I haven't posted yet? Mostly vampires, I think.

Bianca:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Bianca.jpg)
(Eliza Dushku)

Duke Ortega:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/DukeOrtega.jpg)
(Raymond Cruz)

Arianna:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Arianna.jpg)
(Salma Hayak)

The Red King:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/RedKing.jpg)
(Nestor Carbonell)

Mavra:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Mavra.jpg)
(Helena Bonham Carter)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 09, 2011, 08:01:41 PM
I loved them all!  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 09, 2011, 08:14:33 PM
I like HBC, it fits.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 09, 2011, 11:15:45 PM
Okay, so I have pictured Nathan Fillion as Harry for quite some time. I've seen some great images of Alexis Denisof as Harry, and I think he would be a good choice, but my mental image has remained Fillion.

This image right here has just replaced him:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/David_Tennant.jpg)


It had never occurred to me before, but... holy crap. He could so pull it off:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Harry2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Silverblaze on September 09, 2011, 11:44:49 PM
Sam Elliot as Morgan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on September 10, 2011, 12:55:32 AM
Okay, so I have pictured Nathan Fillion as Harry for quite some time. I've seen some great images of Alexis Denisof as Harry, and I think he would be a good choice, but my mental image has remained Fillion.

This image right here has just replaced him:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/David_Tennant.jpg)


It had never occurred to me before, but... holy crap. He could so pull it off:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Harry2.jpg)

Hahaha, I was just arguing with my sister this afternoon about casting DT as Harry!

*<< Of course I'm unbiased...*

In terms of acting ability, I think he would be a phenomenal Harry--as seen in Doctor Who, he can do drama, geekiness, righteous wrath (The Righteous Bride episode, anyone?), and he's just freaking cool!  My only reservation regarding him (besides the accent, which shouldn't be much of an issue) is his height.  At 6'1", he's not exactly towering over many actors out there.

And besides, he can already pull off the general duster-ish look, albeit over a suit...  ;D
(http://www.mitocw.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/drwhodavidtennantspecials.jpg)

For an alternate look at him with The Coat:  8)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_le66rcmNDz1qce0mro1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 10, 2011, 01:15:41 AM
For those of you who said alex denisof for harry









I apologize for scoffing at you, i am watching season 4 of angel now and he is appropriately bada$$
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 10, 2011, 03:09:34 AM
My only reservation regarding him (besides the accent, which shouldn't be much of an issue) is his height.  At 6'1", he's not exactly towering over many actors out there.
True, but the same can be said of Denisof; he's the exact same height. I've seen shorter actors suggested, too (Marsters has been mentioned a few times, and he's under six feet) and Fillion isn't much taller, I think he's 6'2" at the most. There just aren't many actors who could actually match Harry in height.
And yeah, we know he can do accents if the man can go from Scottish to flawless English accent.  ;D

Thing is, I have to reconsider my vision of Thomas, now. I've always, always seen James Marsters (in his slightly younger days, though I honestly think he could still pull it off) but he doesn't really look like he could be related to Tennant. I know that Harry and Thomas have only a slight resemblance to each other, which is exactly what I thought Marsters and Fillion had: a very slight resemblance. The only actor I can think of who would bear a resemblance and be able to play the character is Joseph Gordon-Levitt, but I don't know that he has the body for it. Hot he is, Greek God of Boflex he's not so much.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on September 10, 2011, 01:25:04 PM
I'm a fan of Klodi for Leah, but as for acting ability and looks, has anyone mentioned Sara Rafferty, recently of 'Suits' on USA?

On the show, she's very good at switching mood and personality at the drop of a hat.  I could see her playing sweet/crazy very well, and she has the looks.
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQTWQjvJRN1S-P6WxO9vgfNXgZELr023MTlb_-lwGS_EYsm59py)

I love her in "Suits"!  I'm not sure if Lea is the right character for her, but I definitely want to see her somewhere in the Dresdenverse. :D


For those of you who said alex denisof for harry









I apologize for scoffing at you, i am watching season 4 of angel now and he is appropriately bada$$

Just wait until you get to the part of Angel season 5 that made Jim sit up and go "OMGHARRY"!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: OpticChaos on September 10, 2011, 04:00:21 PM
Just wait until you get to the part of Angel season 5 that made Jim sit up and go "OMGHARRY"!

Which episode is that? Just so I can go watch and see if I agree. Because so far, I really don't see Alexis Denisof as Harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 10, 2011, 11:15:15 PM
Which episode is that? Just so I can go watch and see if I agree. Because so far, I really don't see Alexis Denisof as Harry

The particular pic relating to this, if it's the moment I think, is earlier in this thread.  I'm too lazy to dig it up but it's Denisof and Marsters standing next to each other.

Edit: Googled "wesley spike angel" and it was the first pic to pop up.

(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3100000/Wesley-and-Spike-angel-3140955-491-324.jpg)

Tell me this does not SCREAM Harry and Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 10, 2011, 11:19:02 PM
Okay, so I have pictured Nathan Fillion as Harry for quite some time. I've seen some great images of Alexis Denisof as Harry, and I think he would be a good choice, but my mental image has remained Fillion.

This image right here has just replaced him:

I need to start watching Dr Who, people keep telling me good things.

And I don't see it, because he just seems too....Brit...to play All-American Harry.  No offence meant to the Brits.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chuck Chuck Razool on September 10, 2011, 11:57:01 PM
At 6'1", he's not exactly towering over many actors out there.

I think you might be suprised by how short a lot of actors really are.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 11, 2011, 12:13:27 AM
Tell me this does not SCREAM Harry and Thomas.

I'm not feeling it there.   Denisof looks doofy there, and Marsters doesn't look anything like Thomas to me, and this is coming from a guy who was casting the blond Green Arrow as Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 11, 2011, 12:16:00 AM
They don't look anything like Harry and Thomas for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on September 11, 2011, 01:57:02 AM
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3100000/Wesley-and-Spike-angel-3140955-491-324.jpg)

Tell me this does not SCREAM Harry and Thomas.

Eh, not in the slightest.  He doesn't look at all like what I've pictured Harry as (then again, we all picture Harry differently, as this thread is ample proof).

However, for Thomas, I believe we've got WoJ that he pictured Matt Bomer, and many of us on this thread have agreed:
(http://jerzygirl45.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/matt-bomer-25.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 11, 2011, 02:15:20 AM
I don't know if there is WoJ, but I definitely agree with Bomer
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on September 11, 2011, 02:24:19 AM
Yeah, I think it was one of the interviews where someone asked him who he'd cast for some of the characters, and I remember him saying Bomer for Thomas. 

*Goes off to hunt it down in the WoJ forum and prove that he's not imaging things...*

EDIT:  Here we go:

Quote
Q.   What actors would you choose for Harry and Thomas?
A.   Favorite choice for Harry would be a 1970s Harrison Ford.  Of current actors, would choose Captain Tight Pants (Nathan Fillion) for Harry, and Bryce from Chuck for Thomas (Matt Bomer).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 11, 2011, 06:17:00 AM
I need to start watching Dr Who, people keep telling me good things.

And I don't see it, because he just seems too....Brit...to play All-American Harry.  No offence meant to the Brits.
While I do recommend Doctor Who, that actually wasn't what made me picture him as Harry. The Tenth Doctor was never scruffy or unshaven; it wasn't until I saw the above-posted picture that I went, "OMG! He could be Harry!"
Also, Tennant isn't a Brit. I mean, I suppose he's from the isle itself, but he's Scottish. Having a few Scottish friends, I can tell you they don't like being referred to as 'Brits.' However, for a Scottish man to do a flawless English accent is pretty impressive, and I'm sure with some training Tennant would sound plenty American.

for Thomas, I believe we've got WoJ that he pictured Matt Bomer, and many of us on this thread have agreed:
(http://jerzygirl45.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/matt-bomer-25.jpg)
Um... I don't see that guy as Thomas. He doesn't make my jaw unhinge and my brain stop working. James Marsters has always done that. (not to say that he's the only one)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 11, 2011, 06:24:10 AM
Sorry if I ask you this, and you are free not to answer, of course. But, are you female? Because you would be the first woman I know (among those who know Bomer) than desn't feel melting when thinking on him. (I like Marsters, but I never liked him so much, when I first saw Bomer in Tru Calling I almost consider divorce  :P)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 11, 2011, 06:25:05 AM
I am possessed of two X chromosomes, yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 11, 2011, 06:27:56 AM
wow, they say that there is always a first time  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lara on September 11, 2011, 06:32:20 AM
Just curious.... do most Dresden Fans feel Paul Blackthorne from the TV show was miscast as Harry? I haven't seen any mention of him here.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 11, 2011, 06:35:04 AM
I said several times that I think he is perfect for the role. I wouldn't recast him. I know other think the same, and others don't like him
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lara on September 11, 2011, 06:39:55 AM
I said several times that I think he is perfect for the role. I wouldn't recast him. I know other think the same, and others don't like him

Sorry... there are nearly 300 pages to this thread and I haven't read through all of them.

I wouldn't recast Blackthorne either. He's the one I picture when I read the books.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 11, 2011, 06:44:49 AM
Oh no, I wouldn't mean that. I don't know if I said it in this thread, in fact.  :D Sorry if I was not clear, it is too late here and my brain is freezing
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 11, 2011, 06:49:37 AM
wow, they say that there is always a first time  :D
Yeah, I suppose there always is. Not to say that this Bomer guy isn't aesthetically pleasing, but I just see Thomas as a man who would reduce me to staring dreamily. Whenever I see James Marsters, that's exactly what happens. When I actually met him at a convention, I was rendered mute. I had to encounter him a few times before I could say anything at all.
Oh, and I've literally told my man that I would leave him for James Marsters, even if he is nearly twice my age. (His response was priceless, by the way: "Yeah, I would leave you for James Marsters, too."  ;D)
I could list off a few other actors who have a similar effect, though I don't think any have it to the same degree. Bomer just isn't one of them.

Edit: I didn't care much for the Dresden Files show, and when I read the books a few years after watching some of it... yeah, I thought Blackthorne had been miscast. Not that he's special in that impression. I thought they had all been miscast, except for maybe Bob, who had been mischaracterized. (For the record, I would still cast Eddie Izzard as Bob. I would love to hear him delivering some of those lines.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 11, 2011, 07:03:44 AM
*sigh* sadly, Bomer is younger than me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lara on September 11, 2011, 07:11:18 AM
Oh no, I wouldn't mean that. I don't know if I said it in this thread, in fact.  :D Sorry if I was not clear, it is too late here and my brain is freezing

No worries  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: OpticChaos on September 11, 2011, 10:33:19 AM
The particular pic relating to this, if it's the moment I think, is earlier in this thread.  I'm too lazy to dig it up but it's Denisof and Marsters standing next to each other.

Edit: Googled "wesley spike angel" and it was the first pic to pop up.

(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3100000/Wesley-and-Spike-angel-3140955-491-324.jpg)

Tell me this does not SCREAM Harry and Thomas.

Nope, I just don't see it tbh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on September 11, 2011, 04:00:52 PM
Which episode is that? Just so I can go watch and see if I agree. Because so far, I really don't see Alexis Denisof as Harry

The rooftop confrontation about 3/4 of the way though Angel season 5, episode 7, "Lineage."  Specifically, Alexis Denisof's performance at the end of the scene.

(http://priscellie.com/dresden/wesHarry.jpg)


And for those who doubt Matt Bomer's ability to melt panties at 500 yards:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Up8PaenAvsI/TZVJvJHQNrI/AAAAAAAABoI/VepzADr5lB8/s1600/MattBomer3.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: OpticChaos on September 11, 2011, 04:23:01 PM
The rooftop confrontation about 3/4 of the way though Angel season 5, episode 7, "Lineage."  Specifically, Alexis Denisof's performance at the end of the scene.

Actually, yeah. In that scene I can see what JB means. I'm a convert now. ;D

Quote
And for those who doubt Matt Bomer's ability to melt panties at 500 yards:

Ha, who could doubt that?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 11, 2011, 04:25:52 PM
I'm a fan of Klodi for Leah, but as for acting ability and looks, has anyone mentioned Sara Rafferty, recently of 'Suits' on USA?
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQTWQjvJRN1S-P6WxO9vgfNXgZELr023MTlb_-lwGS_EYsm59py)
I think I like her for Andi.

The rooftop confrontation about 3/4 of the way though Angel season 5, episode 7, "Lineage."  Specifically, Alexis Denisof's performance at the end of the scene.
That was a great scene. I'm pretty sure that's when I started really liking Westley as a character.


Quote
And for those who doubt Matt Bomer's ability to melt panties at 500 yards:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Up8PaenAvsI/TZVJvJHQNrI/AAAAAAAABoI/VepzADr5lB8/s1600/MattBomer3.jpg)
Nope, sorry, still not working for me.

Right here, though, I think there may have been literal melting (yes, that's me)
(click to show/hide)

Also? Lost Greek God of Boflex.
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h121/PhoenixRoseStar/Random/5372736_gal.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on September 11, 2011, 04:35:48 PM
Also? Lost Greek God of Boflex.
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h121/PhoenixRoseStar/Random/5372736_gal.jpg)

You do realize that's Photoshopped? :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 11, 2011, 04:36:22 PM
I think I like her for Andi.

Maybe, but I like her enough to want her to have a more prominent role.

Nope, sorry, still not working for me.

I'm in the Bomer club too, but that might be because I like Chuck and White Collar.  Being a guy, I can't tell you if Bomer makes them melt, but my wife assures me he does.

Also? Lost Greek God of Boflex.

That looks shopped.  You can't convince me that's not shopped.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 11, 2011, 04:45:25 PM
You do realize that's Photoshopped? :D
Having a degree in the program, I can even tell you which filter was likely used. However, beyond the filter? Don't think so. However, if you insist, here's a straight screencap:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/marsters-54406953892.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 11, 2011, 06:01:45 PM
Very beautiful picture, NH! And as I said, I like Marsters, just not so much. Pris, that Bomer picture is actually in the wallpaper of my PC, since several months ago.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lara on September 11, 2011, 06:32:18 PM
I am a James Marsters fan.... not sure if I'm seeing him as Thomas though.  Still I'd like to contribute one of my favorite pictures of him for consideration. It's all in the eyes....
 
(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n628/eronel/th_jm_12_29l.jpg) (http://s1143.photobucket.com/albums/n628/eronel/?action=view&current=jm_12_29l.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 11, 2011, 06:33:32 PM
Yes, that is a very fascinating picture (I still don't see him as Thomas)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lara on September 11, 2011, 06:51:01 PM
Regretfully, me neither.....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 11, 2011, 06:56:47 PM
I am a James Marsters fan.... not sure if I'm seeing him as Thomas though.  Still I'd like to contribute one of my favorite pictures of him for consideration. It's all in the eyes....
 
(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n628/eronel/th_jm_12_29l.jpg) (http://s1143.photobucket.com/albums/n628/eronel/?action=view&current=jm_12_29l.jpg)
Mmmm, thank you.

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Marsters.jpg)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/James-Marsters4.jpg) (http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/000005.png)
He is soooo my Thomas.

...Kay, I'll stop now. I just really like looking at him.

My second choice would be Aiden Turner:
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h121/PhoenixRoseStar/Random/0810human4.jpg) (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h121/PhoenixRoseStar/Random/aident.jpg)

My third choice (despite his slender build) would be Joseph Gordon-Levitt:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/Thomas2.jpg)
...Because he's awesome. And sexy. Sadly not very buff, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 11, 2011, 06:59:34 PM
Different tastes, definitely. For me those two would be "eh...no". Marsters at least have the eyes,
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 11, 2011, 07:25:31 PM
Marsters at least have the eyes
I would argue that nobody has the eyes. Pretty sure silver eyes would require contacts.  ;)


Moving along, Brian Blessed as Donar Vadderung:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Odin.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on September 11, 2011, 10:00:42 PM
I would argue that nobody has the eyes. Pretty sure silver eyes would require contacts.  ;)


Moving along, Brian Blessed as Donar Vadderung:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Odin.jpg)

No, no. Brian Blessed has to be Santa Claus/The Winter King.

(http://www.zapster.it/multimedia/2700/2645/big/Rutger_Hauer_Barbarossa---58.jpg)
Here's my image of Odin. Anyone want to shop an eyepatch onto that pic? I don't have photoshop or any other photo editing programs on my computer, or I'd do it.

(I'm sort of kidding about this. Blessed would probably make a fantastic Odin, but he'd be PERFECT as Santa.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 11, 2011, 10:20:44 PM
(I'm sort of kidding about this. Blessed would probably make a fantastic Odin, but he'd be PERFECT as Santa.)
Until we actually see Santa, I will reserve Blessed for Odin. I might do so even if we do see Santa. However, I can do an eyepatch photoshop for you, if you want.


Different note, Madeline Raith:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Madeline.jpg)

And little Inari Raith:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Inari.jpg)


Edit: Eyepatch photoshop:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/Rutger_Hauer_Barbarossa---58.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on September 12, 2011, 12:26:00 PM
Having a degree in the program, I can even tell you which filter was likely used. However, beyond the filter? Don't think so. However, if you insist, here's a straight screencap:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/marsters-54406953892.jpg)

It's a total head replacement.  That's not his body.  I've seen the photograph that head is taken from, and it's not this picture. :D  Here it is!

(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/2900000/Spike-James-Marsters-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-2968658-426-600.jpg)

I'm not denying the James Marsters is pretty shirtless, because he is.  But even if the Photoshop job had been done more seamlessly, it's clear enough from the yummy comparison images you provided that those aren't his abs.  He's more leanly muscular.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on September 12, 2011, 12:42:24 PM
To compensate for my party-poopering:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7R1NamNMC-4/ThPtr1fUJtI/AAAAAAAAQgE/oAMfcQPDMeg/s1600/iiMattBomer_WhiteCollar_s3e03_Deadline_20110621_002.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wfXN0HdkdYA/ThPtqRkL_0I/AAAAAAAAQfk/XD4YndwK5rQ/s1600/iiMattBomer_WhiteCollar_s3e03_Deadline_20110621_006.jpg)

(http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2011/01/bomer-collar/matt-bomer-shirtless-white-collar-teaser-04.jpg)
(hey, whatserface who played Kate would make an excellent Justine)

(http://www.squarehippies.com/images/actors/matthew_bomer3/matthew_bomer10.jpg)

(http://alternatebinkyality.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/matt-bomer-shirtless-1.jpg)

NEVER ALLOWED TO WEAR A SHIRT AGAIN.

And wow, this post has made me very, very late to work.  Such is the penance for my lust. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on September 12, 2011, 04:27:14 PM
Edit: Eyepatch photoshop:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/Rutger_Hauer_Barbarossa---58.jpg)

Oooh, that's perfect. Thanks!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 12, 2011, 05:58:11 PM
Okay, time for a revamp of the casting.  My wife helped with this one.

Harry Dresden = Nathan Fillion
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/NF_Dresden.jpg)


Thomas Raith = Nathan Fillion
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/NF_Thomas.jpg)


Waldo Butters = Nathan Fillion
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/NF_Butters.jpg)


Michael Carpenter = Nathan Fillion  (attempted seduction by Bianca)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/NF_Carpenter.jpg)


Kincaid = Nathan Fillion
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/NF_Kincaid.jpg)


John Marcone = Nathan Fillion
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/NF_Marcone.jpg)


Donald Morgan = Nathan Fillion
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/NF_Morgan.jpg)


Father Forthill = Nathan Fillion
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/NF_Forthill.jpg)


Cowl = Nathan Fillion
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/NF_Cowl.png)


Ride-along Bob = Nathan Fillion
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/NF_Bob.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 12, 2011, 06:06:17 PM
No problem, Tempus.

Okay, time for a revamp of the casting.  My wife helped with this one.

Harry Dresden = Nathan Fillion
Thomas Raith = Nathan Fillion
Waldo Butters = Nathan Fillion
Michael Carpenter = Nathan Fillion 
Kincaid = Nathan Fillion
John Marcone = Nathan Fillion
Donald Morgan = Nathan Fillion
Father Forthill = Nathan Fillion
Cowl = Nathan Fillion
Ride-along Bob = Nathan Fillion
;D Bwahahahahahaha! Fantastic!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on September 12, 2011, 08:14:15 PM
Okay, time for a revamp of the casting.  My wife helped with this one.

Harry Dresden = Nathan Fillion
Thomas Raith = Nathan Fillion
Waldo Butters = Nathan Fillion
Michael Carpenter = Nathan Fillion 
Kincaid = Nathan Fillion
John Marcone = Nathan Fillion
Donald Morgan = Nathan Fillion
Father Forthill = Nathan Fillion
Cowl = Nathan Fillion
Ride-along Bob = Nathan Fillion

LOL!  Okay, our work here is done.  We have found our perfect casting!

Don't forget:

Kumori = Nathan Fillion
(http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/840/178359-005snt_nathan_fillion_038.jpg)

Reader of the Audiobooks = Nathan Fillion
(http://thetvlookingglass.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/nathan-stana.jpg?w=300&h=195)

Who wants to Photoshop this into Toot-toot? = Nathan Fillion
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6x5h0FLfX1qzadc3o1_500.png)

Lara Raith = Nathan Fillion
(http://www.comicscavern.com/storage/NathanFillionSuper-thumb-550x288-58356.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1299292721471)

Giddy SplatterCon!!! fangirls squeeing over Darby Crane = Nathan Fillion
(http://tvscreener.com/wp-content/uploads/yapb_cache/castle_nathan_fillion.40t3g8n0ciucw8gkcoogw8w8k.4seibt8chw6ck04c0484s0wk4.th.jpeg)

I'd cast him as Hammerhands, but These Are Not The Hammer
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CTJwssgw7xE/SIDACeLW6EI/AAAAAAAAAOM/6V557UZC0aE/s400/These+are+not+the+hammer.jpg)

Mr. Fillion's Hair and Makeup by Nathan Fillion
(http://nerdapproved.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/nathans-swamp-ass-150x150.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Myyrdn Eopia on September 12, 2011, 09:17:48 PM
SO. MUCH. YES.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Enjorous on September 12, 2011, 09:22:14 PM
This wins LIFE!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: White Silhouette on September 12, 2011, 09:32:29 PM
This movie would have so much awesome your head would explode from watching it.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 12, 2011, 11:59:13 PM
Yay!!! Perfect Casting achieved  :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on September 13, 2011, 12:49:56 PM
You.

Guys.

Are.

AWESOME.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on September 14, 2011, 12:33:53 AM
Nah, you forgot one guy who, by law of the universe, has to be in everything.

Nicodemus=Christopher Walken. (A movie with only Fillion and Walken would be the greatest thing ever.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 14, 2011, 01:20:10 AM
Nah, you forgot one guy who, by law of the universe, has to be in everything.

Nicodemus=Christopher Walken. (A movie with only Fillion and Walken would be the greatest thing ever.)

No need.  Because as seen in this clip, Nathan Fillion can play Christopher Walken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDr8YpkshuU
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on September 14, 2011, 01:51:22 AM
Sadly, because my mental image of Eb is so different from his look, I can't cast Sam Elliott in that role. But if it were animated, you better bet he'd be at the top of that list. For that matter, he'd be the middle and the bottom, too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: EndlessKng on September 14, 2011, 04:19:14 PM
Actually, Nathan as Harry fills in the gap in my own dreamcast of the series.

Here are some of my other roles:

Bob: Alan Rickman (Can you imagine him saying “And they have boobs?”)
Nicodemus: Robert Downey, Jr.
Gard: Jaimie Alexander
Donar Vadderung: Jeff Bridges
Arthur Langtry, The Merlin: Geoffery Rush
Ebenezer McCoy, The Blackstaff: Donald Sutherland
Ferrovax: Ralph Fiennes
Rashid, the Gatekeeper: Idris Elba
Lea: Eva Green
Mab: Alex Kingston
Maeve: Natalie Portman
Titania: Nicole Kidman
Lily: Emily Browning
Aurora: Kiera Knightly
Erlking: David Bowie
Kincaid: Tom Welling
Uriel: Don Cheadle in "Small Favor;" Tom Felton in his blond aspect
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 14, 2011, 07:13:32 PM
Kincaid: Tom Welling
Um... What? I'm sorry, but even as Superman, I barely buy that guy as a badass. There are several better choices. My top two would be Chris Hemsworth and Chris Kane. Hemsworth has the look, I think, and I liked him in what I've seen. Kane is fully capable of badassery and voice-wise he's perfect, but he's a bit short for it, and his coloring is off.


Anyhoo...
Tera West and some of the Alphas:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Tera.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Billy.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Georgia.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Marci.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Andi.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Kirby.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 15, 2011, 12:40:53 AM
Bob: Alan Rickman (Can you imagine him saying “And they have boobs?”)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 15, 2011, 12:42:01 AM
New random Dresden casting.  I don't know him from Survivor, but Colby Donaldson has a good ol' country boy twang as host of Top Shot on the History channel.

And he's kind of reminding me of the lean, strong jaw western type I usually picture Dresden as.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/donaldson_2.jpg)   (http://www.ohiocountypubliclibrary.org/Readers%20Advisory/Adult%20Horror/Harry%20Dresden_files/image3091.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Baalirock on September 15, 2011, 01:34:09 PM
Ferrovax: Ralph Fiennes
Lily: Emily Browning
Erlking: David Bowie

I like all of these.  I can totally see Ralph done up as a Roman Centurion.  He would rock that!  Any excuse to see more of Emily Browning on film is a good one, and I think she could pull off Lily well.

Neuro... you totally need to throw together a pic of David Bowie as the Erkling.  He WAS the Goblin King, after all...   :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 15, 2011, 06:42:47 PM
Erlking: David Bowie

I was laughing at Bob so much I missed this, and unfortunately I'll have to gainsay it.  The Erlking is described as having a handsome-yet-ugly face.

My first choice is:
(http://www.allaboutjazz.com/photos/profile/tom_waits.jpg)
Tom Waits.

Second choice:
(http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/ron_perlman1-e1302296836998.jpg)
Ron Perlman.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 15, 2011, 07:28:05 PM
Neuro... you totally need to throw together a pic of David Bowie as the Erkling.
Hard to resist that  :D
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/ErlkingH.jpg)


I think Perlman would be a good choice, too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 15, 2011, 07:31:48 PM
I'm sorry but David Bowie isn't crazed enough for the Erlking.
Now Gary Oldman maybe.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 15, 2011, 07:43:54 PM
I'm sorry but David Bowie isn't crazed enough for the Erlking.
What, exactly, indicates that the Erlking must be "crazed" in some way? He isn't a berserker or a vampire consumed by bloodlust. I've always gotten the impression that he is a calmy competent predator, with a place in the natural order.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 15, 2011, 07:50:22 PM
I don't know - he is, after all, the master of the Wild Hunt and somewhat, let's see I don't think maniacal fits the bill - rather he's savage in nature and cruel.
Also, frankly, David Bowie does not look like  a force of nature.
Heck, even Gary Oldman doesn't fit that bill.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 15, 2011, 08:08:02 PM
crazed
adjective:
1. insane; demented.
2. suffering loss of emotional control

savage
adjective:
1. fierce, ferocious, or cruel; untamed: savage beasts.
2. uncivilized; barbarous: savage tribes.
3. enraged or furiously angry, as a person.
4. unpolished; rude: savage manners.
5. wild or rugged, as country or scenery


They are a bit different. And the first definition of savage may suit the Erlking, but I still wouldn't say it fits entirely. He is a predator, but predators fit in the natural order, as I said. The Erlking also proved himself capable of civility, so he isn't entirely untamed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 15, 2011, 10:08:35 PM
I don't know - he is, after all, the master of the Wild Hunt and somewhat, let's see I don't think maniacal fits the bill - rather he's savage in nature and cruel.
Also, frankly, David Bowie does not look like  a force of nature.
Heck, even Gary Oldman doesn't fit that bill.

Oh, if only there was an actor, or maybe even two, that could pull off the Force of Nature vibe, with a predator aura and a kick-ass scowl.



Oh wait...
(http://www.allaboutjazz.com/photos/profile/tom_waits.jpg)
Tom Waits.

(http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/ron_perlman1-e1302296836998.jpg)
Ron Perlman.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 16, 2011, 12:14:20 AM
Oh, if only there was an actor, or maybe even two, that could pull off the Force of Nature vibe, with a predator aura and a kick-ass scowl.

Is the Erl King green like gremlins?

Just sayin...
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/lou_ferrigno_interview2_f.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on September 16, 2011, 06:04:42 AM
Okay, time for a revamp of the casting.  My wife helped with this one.

Harry Dresden = Nathan Fillion
Thomas Raith = Nathan Fillion]
Waldo Butters = Nathan Fillion
Michael Carpenter = Nathan Fillion  (attempted seduction by Bianca)
Kincaid = Nathan Fillion
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/NF_Kincaid.jpg)

John Marcone = Nathan Fillion
Donald Morgan = Nathan Fillion
Father Forthill = Nathan Fillion
Cowl = Nathan Fillion
Ride-along Bob = Nathan Fillion

I think we have a winner... Just cast Nathan Fillion as EVERY Male and most the female roles even. Also I have seen that before, I think that's him on the set of the Halo: Landfall commercial. Thats a UNSC Sniper Rifle, but I did not know he was involved in it. I know he did voice acting for the game. Speaking of I wish they would make that damn movie...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on September 16, 2011, 04:44:35 PM
Now I'm thinking that Joseph Gordon-Levitt would be a great choice for the Inner Bob that we see in his "apartment" in Ghost Story. For some reason, I have Kevin Smith in my head (... I know) when I read Butters' lines. It's too late to change now.

I think David Wenham could make a good Kincaid - if we're not going with the All-Nathan Revue version, that is.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on September 17, 2011, 11:55:46 PM
OMG... I thought I was the only one who saw Kevin Smith as Butters. Joseph Levitt kinda freaks me out. David Wenham would be good for something but I dont know about Kincaid. The all Nathan thing would be sweet and really good for the budget, better effects. But I dont think a Studio will go for it.

I would like to fit Sean Bean into the movie but if we follow the patter he has to play a role where he dies in the movie. Maybe the Loup Garou?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 18, 2011, 12:02:11 AM
I have Kevin Smith in my head (... I know) when I read Butters' lines
... I thought I was the only one who saw Kevin Smith as Butters.

Really, guys? I might be remembering wrong, but isn't Butters described as, well, skinny? I adore Kevin Smith and everything, but the man has never been skinny.
Sean Bean could be Harley MacFinn, yeah. And why does Joe Gordon-Levitt freak you out? He's amazing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 18, 2011, 12:51:13 AM
I've seen others say it before, but after seeing him on Leno last night, I think Statham would make a good Kincaid.
1)  He's fit enough
2)  He's got the bad boy vibe
3)  He can do snide anti-humor
4)  He doesn't have the hair, but as someone said before, we'll have to creative license it, or get a wig and some glue.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_w9F2fbfCNSU/SruNqSQGT5I/AAAAAAAAAa0/3WKtoLjqKeY/s400/jason-statham-shotgun.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 18, 2011, 02:45:50 AM
1)  He's fit enough
2)  He's got the bad boy vibe
3)  He can do snide anti-humor
I'm just curious as to whether you have seen Chris Kane in anything. Also, he does have the hair; would just need a bottle of dye to make it pretty well book-perfect. Only thing he doesn't have, really, is the height.
I know I've said it before, but my other choice would be Chris Hemsworth. He has the hair, and the height, and the fitness (to the level of "day-um!") YMMV on whether he has the bad boy vibe, but I think he could pull it off. Snide? Yeah, he could probably do that, too.

I have nothing against Statham as an actor, but why cast someone who would require "creative license" when there are wholly acceptable actors in existence?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on September 18, 2011, 02:46:35 AM
Really, guys? I might be remembering wrong, but isn't Butters described as, well, skinny? I adore Kevin Smith and everything, but the man has never been skinny.
Sean Bean could be Harley MacFinn, yeah. And why does Joe Gordon-Levitt freak you out? He's amazing.

Yes, as of dead beat Butters is "a little guy, maybe 5'3 in his shoes, maybe 120 pounds soaking wet." I did not think to check Ghost until after but I am sure he has not changed much. I dont really care though, lol. We can find someone else to play Butters but that who I have just seen in my head. I would like to find a role for Kevin Smith though, I have not done any reading to see if he is a fan or not but I am sure he would be if he reads it.

As for Levitt.... I mean.... with short hair and a nice beard he looks normal to me... but then he does this.

(http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/joseph-gordon-levitt-header-500x254.jpeg)

Or.... really maybe have him as white court. He could be one the cousins that like feed off fear or something.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9LZcX88a9oI/Sflbx16Kr7I/AAAAAAAAAPo/rFYzh2uDDKk/s320/JGL.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 18, 2011, 02:52:10 AM
He could be one the cousins that like feed off fear or something.
...She looks happy to me.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/Thomas2.jpg)

(Course, I guess it depends on what you're into ;) )
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 18, 2011, 03:40:22 AM
I'm just curious as to whether you have seen Chris Kane in anything. Also, he does have the hair; would just need a bottle of dye to make it pretty well book-perfect. Only thing he doesn't have, really, is the height.
I know I've said it before, but my other choice would be Chris Hemsworth. He has the hair, and the height, and the fitness (to the level of "day-um!") YMMV on whether he has the bad boy vibe, but I think he could pull it off. Snide? Yeah, he could probably do that, too.

I have nothing against Statham as an actor, but why cast someone who would require "creative license" when there are wholly acceptable actors in existence?

I saw Chris Kane in Angel and several other smaller roles, and I see him in the advertisements for Leverage.  My issue with him is that he's very American, and he's bench muscle.  My image of Kincaid has always been European and lean muscle.  Maybe my image is off, and I'm wrong about the nationality and build, but I just don't see it.  Same problem with a beefed up Hemsworth, but if he were back down to his leaner weight, and could pull off a European accent, then I'd support it.  But I don't know about an Aussie trying for a Euro accent...

...She looks happy to me.

He totally looks like my image of Madrigal Raith there.  In fact, I might adopt him as my personal choice for Madrigal.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 18, 2011, 03:51:37 AM
I don't know about an Aussie trying for a Euro accent.
...You know that there are places in Australia where the accent is almost indistinguishable from something out of the UK, right? At least you can hardly say he's "very American." And even 'beefed up,' he looked comparatively lean to me.

Quote
He totally looks like my image of Madrigal Raith there.  In fact, I might adopt him as my personal choice for Madrigal.
No way, Cillian Murphy is Madrigal.

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/MadrigalRaith.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 18, 2011, 04:00:50 AM
No way, Cillian Murphy is Madrigal.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/MadrigalRaith.jpg)

See, I seem to remember Madrigal was supposed to be attractive.  I don't think Cillian Murphy can be said to be attractive.  I see him more like the Skavis.  Yeah.  Definitely.  That picture you have there, but in drag?  Definitely.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 18, 2011, 04:18:22 AM
...I think he's attractive.

Always saw Jaye Davidson as the Skavis.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/PriscillaSkavis.jpg)
Might be unfair of me, but I figure it would have to be someone who can actually fool an observant wizard PI, even if it says "Priscilla" isn't a particularly attractive woman, there seems to be little question about her being a woman until the end. Sooo, yeah.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on September 18, 2011, 04:27:07 AM

Yes Madrigal was who I was thinking of. Also yes, she looks very happy in that photo and that what he wants her to feel up till he has the handcuffs on her and goes all Nightmare on Elm on her.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 18, 2011, 04:29:46 AM
Ive seen a photo of Priscilla... and in a most non-creepy way I find her very attractive. But I am guessing you just threw a name out and meant nothing by that..... yea I am just going to move on.
I was referring to the character in White Night. Priscilla. The name used by the Skavis phage in drag. Hence why I was talking about the Skavis.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on September 18, 2011, 03:49:27 PM
Yea.... if you noticed I edited that out... you must have quoted me right after posting though. I blame it all on lack of sleep.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 19, 2011, 02:45:40 AM
Ah, lack of sleep can certainly be an impairment; I've stopped trying to do homework under the influence of sleepiness.

Hmmm, what do I have today? Well, I decided that Viggo Mortensen should be Lord Raith. (I considered George Clooney, but I'm not sure he has the menace for it.)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/LordRaith.jpg)

Been trying to think of someone for Helen Beckitt/Demeter, but nothing's popped out at me yet. Maybe Bebe Neuwirth?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 19, 2011, 02:49:31 AM
I would like somebody even more menacng for Lord Raith, but I don't remember the description. Viggo is a good choice, anyway,
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 19, 2011, 03:03:47 AM
I think it would be difficult to get much more menacing. Viggo can be a very scary guy. Also, Lord Raith is supposed to be "better looking than Thomas." He is an undeniably really good-looking guy, who can also be terrifying. Not an easy combo to find, really. (Like I said, also considered George Clooney. If anyone knows of him being scary, please let me know.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 19, 2011, 03:16:10 AM
Michael Fassbender

(http://www.oimag.com/iwave/images/43/michael-fassbender-starring-opposite-noomi-rapace-in-ridley-scott-s-prometheus.jpg)

or a young Paul Newman  :)

(http://ayyyy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Paul-Newman-is-intense.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 19, 2011, 03:22:34 AM
Michael Fassbender
Mmm... He's a bit young for my image of Lord Raith. The patriarch of the Raith family should probably not look like he's in his early thirties. Mortensen has twenty years on Fassbender (believe it or not.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 19, 2011, 03:29:06 AM
ah, that is the problem. Viggo is too old for my image of LR.
Well, then would you like a not so young Paul Newman?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 19, 2011, 03:47:30 AM
Well, then would you like a not so young Paul Newman?
Nope. Viggo's better looking.
(Too old?? For the patriarch of the family? What, you think he looks the same age as his children?)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 19, 2011, 03:52:40 AM
(yes I don't think vampires can age. And I disagree, I think not even Matt Bomer looks better than Paul Newman. Also, he is more menacing)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 19, 2011, 04:15:51 AM
The White Court is born, not made; of course they age. And I think that Inari would be rather confused if her father looked the same age as her siblings.
he is more menacing
At a wild guess, you haven't seen A History of Violence. *shudder*

Really, even in Lord of the Rings, even though he's a good guy, he gets this look on his face... Well, it would justify all the hordes of Mordor quaking in their boots.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 19, 2011, 04:26:15 AM
Lara still looked as a porn star, isn't it? So I guess he had not aged since her best years.
And I don't think they look exactly the same age, but I think this is due to clothes, etc.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 19, 2011, 05:16:03 AM
Lara still looked as a porn star, isn't it?
A retired one.
Keep in mind that the Whites are succubi and incubi; the term "vampire" is perhaps not entirely accurate. They are technically phages, feeding on emotion. And they can be soulgazed, which is a mortals-only trick according to Harry. They might only age, say, ten years for every hundred they live or something like that, but I never got the impression that they don't age at all. Lord Raith could easily look like a fit older man. And I don't really think that any clothes would make someone look like he could have a passel of adult children if everything else about him looked thirty.



Bebe Neuwirth for Demeter:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Demeter.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 19, 2011, 05:23:33 AM
A retired one?. I didn't recall it. It has no sense. If she was retired, she was young before, when filming. But when Lara was really young, the cine didn't exist. I guess the whites should have a way to change their appearance,

I had imagine LR looking about 40-42.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 19, 2011, 05:44:18 AM
A retired one?. I didn't recall it.
You should perhaps read the book again.
[Trixie Vixen] ground her teeth. "Lara is retired. Re. Tie. Urd. This film is mine."

Also, Michael Fassbender is 34, and looks younger than that to me. If I were a bartender, I'd card him; he doesn't look like he's in his forties.
I was frankly shocked to find out Viggo Mortensen was as old as he is, and immediately cast him as Daddy Raith in my head. He's still lookin good after age fifty. I mean... really good. It's impressive.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 19, 2011, 06:04:32 AM
I had exactly the opposite impression about Fassbender. i thought he was far older than me and couldn't understand why he was casted for a young Magneto. But as in the movies Magneto looked older than  Xavier, I though they were trying to keep the pattern.
I agree with you about Viggo's look.
And yes, I haven't read that book in more than a year. But now I understand. I read that dialogue as " she has abandone the movies". Not as "she is too old to do the movie"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on September 19, 2011, 02:45:29 PM
And yes while Viggo Mortensen is starting to show some age with movie magic that could be fixed... but dont forget
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 19, 2011, 03:00:14 PM
You are right in that, Kilroy. I hadn't thought about it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Atanvarno on September 19, 2011, 04:48:48 PM
Quote
Really, guys? I might be remembering wrong, but isn't Butters described as, well, skinny? I adore Kevin Smith and everything, but the man has never been skinny.
That's why I'll admit that my go-to image is kind of weird. Okay, definitely weird. It's possible that the "skinny" part didn't register with me right away. I think of Smith as being short, but definitely not skinny.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 19, 2011, 09:59:54 PM
The patriarch of the Raith family should probably not look like he's in his early thirties.

Lord Raith:  "Why didn't I kill you..."                           
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZjC6m23gMRmgiVxCMzsm5oTNvz7JCTpRXNkGZ1Roj6Rzlt_YZ)                         

Thomas:  "You're just mad you can't pull off the hat..."
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTFQXbtDbFdU7CZEG16yeIZ_8ug5RyJdJNYugHPrm1cH5Vh_DigUw)         

Lord Raith:  "Son, I don't need a hat."
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBizuWoWAVIZ2E1E1KsWjYCsMFgTZLwBTkr8n9E37X089fvey1)     

Thomas:  "Neither do I."
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSN5209qNmmd0MP0RUtQgpgyTNq3PeUCyBZ-a91X4FLIyX7UCKH)

Lara Raith:  "Boys, I'm supposed to be the porn star of the family..."
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQhtd4mMyPuxaFIkuLrzfFxqzyv4qS4ipG4Vo1KASuwJHica0TN)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kilroy on September 20, 2011, 06:13:11 AM
Well..... When you put it like that anyone would look good. +1 for snarky Lara comment at the end.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tx_Ace76 on September 20, 2011, 07:12:11 AM
MY CAST OPINIONS
Harry- Joe Flanigan
Murphy- Sarah Carter/Allison Mack
Mac- Jim Beaver
Michael- Jeffry D Morgan
Marcone- Mark Harmon/Sebastion Roche
Molly-Elisha Cuthbert/ Katie Cassidy
Thomas-Matt Bomer
Lara- Kate Beckinsale(has played a vampire before and rocked it)
Sanya- Demore Barnes
Kincaid- Chris Kane
Susan- Sara Shahi
Merlin- Alan Rickman/Bill Nighy
Ramirez- Adam Beach
Elaine- Olivia Wilde
Ortega- Antonio Banderas(has played a vampire before and rocked it)
Lord Raith- Brad Pitt(has played a vampire before and rocked it)
Gard-Lucy Lawless
Martin- Stanley Tucci
Martha Liberty- Angela Bassett
Rashid- Idris Elba
Injun Joe- Wesley Studie
Justine- Arielle Kebbel
Lash- Ali Larter
Bianca- Katie McGrath
Lea- Christina Hendricks
Mab- Lena Olin
Madeline Raith- Jennifer Tilly
Charity- Megan Dodds/ Olivia D'Abo
Shiro- Chow Yun Fat
Nicodemus- Peter Gallagher
Butters- Alan Cummings
Morgan-Dolph Lundren/ Mickey Rorke
Hendricks-John Cena
Ebenezer- James Caan
Justin-Viggo Mortenson
Bob- James Todd Smith
He Who Walks Behind(voice)- Keith David/ James Earl Jones
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tx_Ace76 on September 21, 2011, 06:22:22 PM
***Revision****

Bob- Terrence Stamp/ David Bowie
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 21, 2011, 06:53:08 PM
I agree with ... one of your choices, Tx

Lord Raith:  "Why didn't I kill you..."                           
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZjC6m23gMRmgiVxCMzsm5oTNvz7JCTpRXNkGZ1Roj6Rzlt_YZ)
That guy certainly looks menacing, but he's more "scarier looking than Thomas" than "better looking than Thomas."


I was kind of unsure about casting Cowl, since we don't really know who he is under that hood, but I think Alan Rickman would rock it. He can sound kind of unearthly and intimidating.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 23, 2011, 12:53:01 AM
That guy certainly looks menacing, but he's more "scarier looking than Thomas" than "better looking than Thomas."

Well, using the celebrity look-alike tool at http://celebrity.picadilo.com/, I uploaded a picture of Bomer to find another actor that looks like him to play his father.

Here are the results:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/Bomer.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on September 23, 2011, 07:51:22 PM
I know he's Asian, not Jewish, but I can't help thinking "Butters" every time I see Masi Oka as the coroner on Hawaii-5-0.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 24, 2011, 01:40:47 AM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 29, 2011, 08:02:52 AM
So I caught part of the old Burton 'Batman' Wednesday night, and I realized that William Hootkins' portrayal of Lt. Eckhardt is how I envision Carmichael. 

R.I.P  Mr. Hootkins, a.k.a. Lt. Eckhardt of Batman, Major Eaton of Raiders of the Lost Ark, and 'Red Six' Porkins of Star Wars.  You were in several of the best movies from my childhood, and I never knew.

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_k42WlSzV9P_Hr-ivAV9WdihJo-266-aGoseXaXcO-9KpYUa3)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on September 29, 2011, 02:49:23 PM
I know he's Asian, not Jewish, but I can't help thinking "Butters" every time I see Masi Oka as the coroner on Hawaii-5-0.
Japanese Polka?  My brain rejects this notion...  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on September 29, 2011, 04:21:30 PM
Well, using the celebrity look-alike tool at http://celebrity.picadilo.com/, I uploaded a picture of Bomer to find another actor that looks like him to play his father.

Here are the results:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/Bomer.jpg)
That tool fails. For those who insist on Bomer for Thomas, there would be only one choice for Lord Raith:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/John-barrowman.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on September 29, 2011, 05:43:57 PM
Kinda makes my mind go down a dark road with his realtionships.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 29, 2011, 05:47:12 PM
Japanese Polka?  My brain rejects this notion...  :P

Mine embraces it and drives me insane.  I can just hear that Japanese gobbledigook to Beer Barrel Polka, and it scares me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on September 29, 2011, 09:44:03 PM
That tool fails. For those who insist on Bomer for Thomas, there would be only one choice for Lord Raith:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/John-barrowman.jpg)

Seconded. It'd be interesting to see Barrowman play a villain. And when the villain is as creepy and wrong as Lord Raith...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on September 29, 2011, 10:52:57 PM
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLcLj1y2CrNrYZ0GBKWc8CM_JGwmpeWhu8bCfmkWMFgq5knH6Q)

This is who I see for Lord Raith...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on September 30, 2011, 02:11:16 PM
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLcLj1y2CrNrYZ0GBKWc8CM_JGwmpeWhu8bCfmkWMFgq5knH6Q)

This is who I see for Lord Raith...
actually that works pretty well.  Dark Coloring, mafia type, Style mutted by creeping age... I likes
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 30, 2011, 11:42:30 PM
I'd see him more as Duke Ortega myself.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2011, 03:12:38 AM
I'd see him more as Duke Ortega myself.
[/quote

Duke Ortega, or the Red King. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: BLUEJACK on October 01, 2011, 10:52:20 AM
Would love to see GRAVE PERIL as a motion picture. It would be an excellent way to introduce the 'Files' to a wider audience because of all the opportunities for special effects and CGI. The characters would then of course, hook them for life. I was thinking that if this idea were to be given enough feedback and publicity, Mr. Butcher would get that check cashed for college credit. It could be another 'Serenity' style brought forth by the fans support. And on that note, I loved Paul Blackthorn, and would love seeing him reprise the character, but... if Nathan Fillion had some free time, and would consider the part....  It would give the fans an opportunity for a more accurate representation of Harry as I believe he already has most of the character traits practiced. I'm not complaining about Mr. Blackthorn, just the liberties that hollywood took with 'Harry'. ie. hockey stick, blue beetle, etc.
And if you happen to see this Mr. Butcher,
I'm not a big fantasy fan, but your work, with it's attention to the details, has made me a follower of your camp, rabidly awaiting each new release. Write faster, damn it! No. Wait. Can't short change the quality. [low growl]
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: meg_evonne on October 02, 2011, 04:46:59 PM
Time to add a new name. I love so many of the actors listed, but someone got me onto Whhite Collar and I think Matt Bomer would be the perfect option. In the role he's too suave, but now I've watched enough episodes to see real potential for this great young actor. He's 'clean' enough, he's clever enough, he's vulnerable enough. I I really think he's THE actor. On the practical side, he might be cheap enough also! If things go fast, that is...

Using those adjectives is risky, but underneath the role is the actor that I think is dead on. He projects no sarcasm like Paul Blackthorn did, which bothered me. Snark is not sarcasm. Plus, if things go the long haul, (the really long haul) I think he has the talent to grow with the part into the knowledgable 'hardness' that I think is inevitable for the character Harry, whille still being angst without over doing it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 02, 2011, 07:00:43 PM
I thought Matt Boomer had been put forth for Thomas?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on October 02, 2011, 07:07:26 PM
Many of us agree with what Snow stated. Bomer = Thomas. For me, he is too pretty to be Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on October 03, 2011, 09:54:52 AM
Yeah. Bomer as Thomas is one of the few things that almost everyone in this thread can agree on.

And does anyone have any ideas for Uriel? Not Jake!Uriel, but the younger form who appears in Changes. I think that Arthur Darvill (Rory Pond/Williams on Doctor Who) could work, because he looks young but is still capable of being really damn serious when he needs to. ("Would you like me to repeat the question?"=most badass thing ever. Harry needs to step his game up to top that.)

...Must resist urge to cast as many actors from Doctor Who as possible. No matter how awesome Alex Kingston and Matt Smith are.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 03, 2011, 11:33:00 AM
Jake/Uriel is obviously Morgan Freeman.

It's hard not to cast Misha Collins as young Uriel.  But he doesn't fit the description.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on October 03, 2011, 01:21:39 PM
And does anyone have any ideas for Uriel? Not Jake!Uriel, but the younger form who appears in Changes.
Based solely on looks, I'd say Joseph Morgan.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Uriel.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on October 05, 2011, 09:32:21 PM
Based solely on looks, I'd say Joseph Morgan.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Uriel.jpg)

Hmm, he could work. I could swear I've seen him in something before, but there's nothing on his IMDB page that I've seen.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 05, 2011, 09:36:13 PM
Maybe he was a print model?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on October 06, 2011, 12:57:10 AM
there's nothing on his IMDB page that I've seen.
Ha, ditto, actually. I happened across him in some image search, and the description of Uriel as having cheekbones that could slice bread kind of popped into my head. He's from England, though, and we all know that everything sounds better in an English accent. (or maybe that's just me.)


I know we don't actually see them, but I may have settled on my Cowl and Kumori...
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Cowl.jpg) (http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Kumori.jpg)
...mostly I think they have the voices for it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Figging Mint on October 06, 2011, 04:24:03 AM
and the description of Uriel as having cheekbones that could slice bread kind of popped into my head.

That totally made me think of Henry Cele.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on October 16, 2011, 03:26:08 AM
I think I found Duke Ortega: Benjamin Bratt
(http://openwalls.com/image/2762/thumb3_benjamin_bratt.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on October 16, 2011, 09:06:22 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on October 16, 2011, 03:08:55 PM
Hard to argue with that image.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on October 16, 2011, 05:43:56 PM
True
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 25, 2011, 12:41:51 PM
So i like matt bromer but im gonna have to say for TOM AS   TOM CRUISE
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 25, 2011, 07:07:50 PM
Sigh...and the gadfly returns. ::)

NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO to any role for Tom Cruise in a DF movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 25, 2011, 08:06:36 PM
NO Tom Cruise NO Keanu Reeves NO Christian Bale NO Matt Bomer
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on October 25, 2011, 08:09:04 PM
Even though I LOVE Keanu Reeves, I have to agree with WJM on that call.  Also with the no-go on Tom Cruise and Christian Bale.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on October 25, 2011, 08:14:56 PM
NO Tom Cruise NO Keanu Reeves NO Christian Bale NO Matt Bomer

^I totally agree.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 26, 2011, 02:33:19 AM
Woah i let the tom cruise go but christian bale is actually a great actor. I saw fighter and my opinion of him improved immensly he just showed so much versatility in that role it was amazing plus the prestige an amazing movie all around i think he would make a good nicodemous
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on October 26, 2011, 02:51:52 AM
I think TC, CB and KR are the same type of actors. One expression ones.
I know many people says Bale is a good actor but he never transmits anything to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 26, 2011, 06:37:27 PM
hear hear!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 26, 2011, 08:15:42 PM
The only thing Bale transmits is surly and you need way more than that for Nick.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on October 26, 2011, 08:19:17 PM
Not enough 'ick' for Nick.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 26, 2011, 08:23:49 PM
True, also not enough skill for Nick.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 27, 2011, 12:08:41 AM
See Fighter u will see his skills
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on October 27, 2011, 01:23:41 PM
So i like matt bromer but im gonna have to say for TOM AS   TOM CRUISE
Tom Cruise is the same size as Murphy. Not clever. He could play Murphy I suppose if he dyed his hair blond.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on October 27, 2011, 06:39:04 PM
Grey Warden, please just stop. It's not funny, it will never be funny. If you're trolling, then you've taken it too far. If you're serious, then you really need to know that most of us do not share your opinons on the skills of certain actors, and it is unlikely that we will ever change our minds.

Look, I think that Cruise, Bale, and Reeves have all made some good movies. But they are not suited for anything in the Dresden Files. It's bad enough Keanu is apparently being cast as Spike in the live-action Cowboy Bebop movie, we don't need him messing up the Dresden Files too. And Tom Cruise is barely relevant anymore.

Bale's an ok actor. Haven't seen Fighter, but I liked the Prestige. Nevertheless, he's certainly not the right actor for Nicodemus.

(Sorry if this comes off a little harsh. I've had a lot of stuff to do for school lately, and the workload makes me a little short-tempered.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on October 27, 2011, 07:34:09 PM
Actually, I have no real problem with Reeves as Spike. He looks the part, and Spike is not very demostrative.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 28, 2011, 02:14:18 AM
Sorry TC i dont mean to troll (that was just meant as a poke to SL)

I do not support Reeves or Cruise in these movies at all

However I do support bale, he looks like what i think nic looks like. After seeing fighter i chose him because he amazed me.

My first choice for nick is Jeffery Donoven AkA Michael from burn notice

(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9700000/Michael-all-burn-notice-9790088-300-400.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wordjunky on October 30, 2011, 02:45:57 PM
Since there's 300 pages in this post, I haven't been able to read them all, so I don't know if it's been said yet, but I vote Anne Hathaway for Lily! Also, I stand by my vote for Hugh Jackman as Harry... he can really pull off the tortured, trying to do the right thing and getting hammered from all sides hero role.
Lara Raith- Kate Beckinsale
Kincaid- Jason Statham
Butters- Ok, I know he's not old enough, but I love Mathew Gray Gubler from Criminal Minds for this!
Maeve- Scarlet Johansen
Thomas- I actually don't think he'd look good with the dark hair, but Cam Gigandet, because he does have that rediculously sexy vibe
Murphy- ok, you may wanna bury me in a deep dark hole somewhere, but everytime I think of Murphy, I picture Reese Witherspoon.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CapnCowl on October 30, 2011, 06:27:32 PM
Grey Warden, please just stop. It's not funny, it will never be funny. If you're trolling, then you've taken it too far. If you're serious, then you really need to know that most of us do not share your opinons on the skills of certain actors, and it is unlikely that we will ever change our minds.
???
Goodness, you're sure blowing it way out of proportion. As far as I can tell, Grey Warden has posted exactly three times in the past five or six pages (since September). Those three posts were, from what I can tell, in order of post: A joke, a serious suggestion, and telling someone that if they were to watch a movie starring his suggestion that they might change their mind.

To which you immediately start shouting troll, and call him unfunny for something that doesn't appear to be a joke (Tom Cruise post excepted). And "taking it too far"? How so?

Quote
Look, I think that Cruise, Bale, and Reeves have all made some good movies. But they are not suited for anything in the Dresden Files. It's bad enough Keanu is apparently being cast as Spike in the live-action Cowboy Bebop movie, we don't need him messing up the Dresden Files too. And Tom Cruise is barely relevant anymore.

Bale's an ok actor. Haven't seen Fighter, but I liked the Prestige. Nevertheless, he's certainly not the right actor for Nicodemus.
Pure opinion. Telling someone, in essence, to shut it because your opinion of several actors is different from theirs is something that I'm pretty sure is frowned upon here.

In short: Calm down and don't go accusing others of trolling simply because you disagree with them.


PS: I'm totally on board with Jeffery Donovan as Nicodemus. In Burn Notice, he can certainly be menacing. Also, I thought he was really good in Changeling.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on October 30, 2011, 06:32:39 PM
I must say I agree. Donovan can play a great Nicodemus
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on October 30, 2011, 10:31:53 PM
???
Goodness, you're sure blowing it way out of proportion. As far as I can tell, Grey Warden has posted exactly three times in the past five or six pages (since September). Those three posts were, from what I can tell, in order of post: A joke, a serious suggestion, and telling someone that if they were to watch a movie starring his suggestion that they might change their mind.

To which you immediately start shouting troll, and call him unfunny for something that doesn't appear to be a joke (Tom Cruise post excepted). And "taking it too far"? How so?
Pure opinion. Telling someone, in essence, to shut it because your opinion of several actors is different from theirs is something that I'm pretty sure is frowned upon here.

In short: Calm down and don't go accusing others of trolling simply because you disagree with them.


PS: I'm totally on board with Jeffery Donovan as Nicodemus. In Burn Notice, he can certainly be menacing. Also, I thought he was really good in Changeling.
Yeah, you're right, I overreacted. Grey Warden, I'm sorry for kind of flipping out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on October 30, 2011, 11:31:10 PM
I must say I agree. Donovan can play a great Nicodemus

I can't help it, he seems a little too pretty to play Nicodemus. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CapnCowl on October 30, 2011, 11:41:40 PM
Yeah, you're right, I overreacted. Grey Warden, I'm sorry for kind of flipping out.
Someone apologizing on the internet?! Highly irregular.

Congratulations, I award you 807 internet points. Don't spend them all in one place.
I can't help it, he seems a little too pretty to play Nicodemus. 
Oh I dunno. Nic is described as pretty good-looking. Plus, whenever I hear Nic's voice it's kind of a combination of Donovan and, for some insane reason, Antonio Banderas.

Like... as smooth and pleasant as Banderas but with Donovan's accent and inflections.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on October 30, 2011, 11:43:49 PM
Pretty is pretty in my mind.  Personal taste and all that.
Funny, Nic is always British in my mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CapnCowl on October 31, 2011, 02:59:43 AM
Pretty is pretty in my mind.  Personal taste and all that.
Funny, Nic is always British in my mind.
Well, canonically Nic has a slight British accent, but for some reason I just can't imagine it. It just always reverts back to Jeffery Bandares. Or would that be Antonio Donovan? Jantonio Dondares? Anteffery Banovan?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 31, 2011, 04:53:41 AM
When I read Nic, I hear one person.

Sir.
Anthony.
Hopkins.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on October 31, 2011, 05:26:50 AM
 ??? I imagine Nic as looking young.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 31, 2011, 06:22:57 AM
??? I imagine Nic as looking young.

Thanks Capn Cowl for defending me. Thanks also to Dina.
Thank you TC for apologizing. I am not in the slightest angry with you.

As to donovan being too pretty, well im a guy so i have no idea. All i know is, Some episodes of Burn Notice i just think, hey hed make a great nic if he could tunnel this character right here.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wordjunky on October 31, 2011, 02:10:25 PM
Totally agree with Anthony Hopkins for Nic! Has anyone ever seen the Rite? Hopkins is pure genius in that movie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 31, 2011, 07:12:45 PM
THANK YOU!  At last I have a supporter!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on October 31, 2011, 07:27:18 PM
LOL. I think Hopkins is pure genius in a regular basis. He is just too old for my vision of Nic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on October 31, 2011, 07:53:26 PM
Michael Shannon is my vote for Nic he plays The main probation agent in HBO's Boardwalk Empire.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 02, 2011, 10:09:13 PM
Jonathan Goldsmith = Ferrovax

He once threatened to burn down a village... and the villagers did it themselves to save him the trouble.

When he kidnaps a princess, she tells the knight that tries to rescue her to bugger off.

The Winter Queen comes to him for advice on how to stay cool.

He can bring one of the world's most powerful wizards to his knees... with only two names and very little effort.

He is... the most interesting dragon in the world.

I don't always attend parties, but when I do, I prefer expensive baubles.  Stay Ferro, my friends.

(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/news/090706/most-interesting-man-240.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 02, 2011, 10:26:23 PM
Jonathan Goldsmith = Ferrovax

He once threatened to burn down a village... and the villagers did it themselves to save him the trouble.

When he kidnaps a princess, she tells the knight that tries to rescue her to bugger off.

The Winter Queen comes to him for advice on how to stay cool.

He can bring one of the world's most powerful wizards to his knees... with only two names and very little effort.

He is... the most interesting dragon in the world.

I don't always attend parties, but when I do, I prefer expensive baubles.  Stay Ferro, my friends.

(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/news/090706/most-interesting-man-240.jpg)

You are now my hero. and yes that would be awesome
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 03, 2011, 05:43:50 PM
Motion for vote!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on November 03, 2011, 06:44:27 PM
Carried!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on November 04, 2011, 02:20:59 AM
seconded; those in favor?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Steve K3 on November 04, 2011, 05:04:35 PM
there's a local guy Wilmington, NC who would be absolutely PERFECT AS HARRY- tall, easily and quickly sprouts a three-day beard, writer, teacher, actor film-maker; can think of NO one better that i've ever seen; he will reamain anonymous for now.

Lucy Lui as Ancient Mai
Gwyneth Paltrow as Lara
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Accelerator1960 on November 04, 2011, 06:37:17 PM
I don't have the time or inclination to read 307 pages of posts, so this may be repetitive. Lucas Bryant from the SyFy network show Haven is Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 04, 2011, 08:36:32 PM
seconded; those in favor?

Can I 'Iy' my own casting?  If so, Iy.

I don't have the time or inclination to read 307 pages of posts, so this may be repetitive. Lucas Bryant from the SyFy network show Haven is Harry.

See, I war with myself over this.  I think he has the lean look that would match Harry, and maybe a little stubble could make him look a little rougher.  But, and this may be nit-picking, I feel like his eyes are too soft and watery.  He always looks like he's about to cry, at least on Haven. 

I think Eric Balfour from Haven is closer to my image of a rougher, edgier Dresden.  But he's got way too much muscle.  But the nose, chin, stubble, hair, and height work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on November 05, 2011, 07:26:43 AM
I don't have the time or inclination to read 307 pages of posts, so this may be repetitive. Lucas Bryant from the SyFy network show Haven is Harry.
In another time/space/dimension/thread somebody had Lucas as Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Livia on November 05, 2011, 11:23:42 AM
How about Hal Ozsan as Thomas?

Probably a bit too small but from the looks, it's definitely him!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 06, 2011, 03:49:57 AM
I like Lucas for Harry, even when I think Paul Blackthorne was an excellent choice. I have a new one, he is an Argentinian musician called Diego Frenkel

(http://www.habladuriasdelmundo.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/frenkel-sepia.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 06, 2011, 09:25:17 PM
I like Lucas for Harry, even when I think Paul Blackthorne was an excellent choice. I have a new one, he is an Argentinian musician called Diego Frenkel

(http://www.habladuriasdelmundo.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/frenkel-sepia.jpg)

No offense Dina but he looks like a villlan maybe Justin?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 06, 2011, 09:28:09 PM
Maybe he could be a good Justin, I don't remember his description. But I think Harry looks like a villain (to be sure, I'm not sure he isn't a villain)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on November 07, 2011, 05:31:49 PM
No offense Dina but he looks like a villlan maybe Justin?

Everybody looks like a villian with a goatee.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 07, 2011, 08:30:14 PM
Everybody looks like a villian with a goatee.

Good point does that say something about 21 century Culture that we hate people with goatees
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on November 07, 2011, 09:25:12 PM
Good point does that say something about 21 century Culture that we hate people with goatees
It is an inherant thing, especially when it has horns as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 07, 2011, 10:49:21 PM
It is an inherant thing, especially when it has horns as well.

Youngest Gruff
(http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/ericbvd/ericbvd1007/ericbvd100700373/7450748-baby-billy-goat-with-horns-and-a-goatee-looks-up-at-the-camera-petting-zoo.jpg)

Middle Gruff
(http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/hotshotsworldwide/hotshotsworldwide0911/hotshotsworldwide091100025/6020643-common-goat-or-billy-goat-close-up-showing-beard.jpg)

Big Gruff
(http://i.pbase.com/g6/43/644443/2/70793477.qf7bnBen.jpg)

Eldest Gruff
(http://mrmma.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/running-diary-billy-goat.jpg)

Scary Gruff
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_72Fq2ASEDsQ/TEcu-nZwVMI/AAAAAAAATCA/WNW2jg9Kah8/s1600/brad-pitt-beard-cult.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 09, 2011, 01:36:07 AM
Scary is right.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on November 11, 2011, 10:38:23 PM
Good point does that say something about 21 century Culture that we hate people with goatees
I blame that episode of Star Trek.

Also, Gary Oldman for Justin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 12, 2011, 04:49:50 PM
Oldman in a minor role?  Uh-uh.  He needs a bigger role than that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 13, 2011, 12:29:36 AM
Also, Gary Oldman for Justin.

Random thought:

Ted Dansen as Justin.  I think he could pull off the double-sided nature.  Good and bad, friendly and dark.

(http://www.tvjab.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ted_danson.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 13, 2011, 12:46:34 AM
I'm ok with this ^
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 13, 2011, 07:28:27 PM
Likewise.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 13, 2011, 10:37:26 PM
I say we clone clint eastwood and then age him to 26 and have him be harry

Clint Eastwood is how I've always pictured Harry, except that I have a hard time imaging Clint being geeky-Harry.

But ever since the cover of SmF, I've thought that whoever played Harry HAD to pull off the Eastwood-look.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/Eastwood_Dresden.jpg)


And then today it hit me.  Why not see if there's a young Clint Eastwood?  And there is. 

Scott Eastwood - age 25 - son of Clint Eastwood.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/Scott_Eastwood_Dresden.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 14, 2011, 04:08:16 AM
i like it ^^^
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: gambitpride on November 16, 2011, 07:45:06 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, the perfect Charity Carpenter!

(http://images.buddytv.com/articles/The_4400/Images/Samantha_Ferris_The_4400.jpg)

(http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/samantha-ferris/samantha-ferris-20090212-492130.jpg)

Samantha Ferris!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 16, 2011, 10:00:01 AM
Sorry, gambitpride, but I don't think so.
I'm not sure who, but I'm not in favor of Ms.Ferris.
(But this is my opinion and we all have different ones.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 16, 2011, 07:36:06 PM
She isn't blond enough
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 16, 2011, 08:28:27 PM
Hair color can be easily fixed, GW.
I'm just not fond of her facial features.
I see Charity as having somewhat more angular features.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 16, 2011, 08:35:21 PM
It's not only the hair. Charity should be more nordic, IMO.
I like "Ellen" a lot, just, not as Charity.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 16, 2011, 08:37:10 PM
^
What Dina said.  Charity should be more Nordic in looks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on November 16, 2011, 11:09:32 PM
Plenty to choose from in all the Scandinavian thriller we have on TV, but it goes against most peoples idea of Charity looking like somebody who has spent her life bearing and looking after children (not trying to start a riot here just stating other peoples opinion). The woman who is in the Scandinavian version of The Killing (series two here next week) would be good but she is model (as in Miranda Kerr not Barbie) thin.

BTW Snow I see you are nearing 10000 posts. Celebrations on planet Weird next week ;D ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 17, 2011, 12:19:02 AM
This week, md!
And Shecky introduced a new category  :)
I think in Charity as a nordic model, retired of course, as she is not so young now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on November 17, 2011, 12:51:56 AM
most peoples idea of Charity looking like somebody who has spent her life bearing and looking after children
And making armor and being her husband's sparring partner often enough to be able to run up a flight of stairs and then swing a war hammer... Just saying.
My pick would be Carrie Fisher when she was younger (http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Charity.jpg). Sadly impossible, I know. I don't know who I would cast if production were starting tomorrow or something.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 17, 2011, 12:59:06 AM
For me, something like this

 too big to post here  (http://www.internetcelebrity.org/en/photo-of-KristannaLoken-366-89316.html)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on November 17, 2011, 01:09:19 AM
Kristanna Loken isn't a bad choice, looks-wise. I don't think she could actually play the character, though. Maybe you've seen something I haven't, but from what I've seen her in she has the emotional range of a dishrag.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 17, 2011, 01:13:33 AM
True, we need to combine her looks with Perkins' personality  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 17, 2011, 01:17:36 AM
A cyborg with her look and programmed to have perkins personality
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 21, 2011, 09:26:53 AM
Just had a thought for Carlos Ramirez.
How about Lou Diamond Phillips.
He might be a touch old but he can do serious and he really can do cocky.
He also can act.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on November 21, 2011, 04:40:54 PM
He might be a touch old but he can do serious and he really can do cocky.
He also can act.
So can Enver Gjokaj (http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Ramirez.jpg), and he isn't too old.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on November 23, 2011, 04:06:24 AM
I hate to reply to myself, but... I watched a couple episodes of Sherlock last night, and I was really struck by the lead. He had great presence and this amazing voice with a casual hint of growl in it. At times his skin looked too smooth to be real, and so pale as to almost glow under the right light. His eyes were gorgeous and either gray or a very light green. His hair was dark and grew in loose ringlets.

Well, you can probably guess what my thought was...
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on November 23, 2011, 04:41:01 AM
I hate to reply to myself, but... I watched a couple episodes of Sherlock last night, and I was really struck by the lead. He had great presence and this amazing voice with a casual hint of growl in it. At times his skin looked too smooth to be real, and so pale as to almost glow under the right light. His eyes were gorgeous and either gray or a very light green. His hair was dark and grew in loose ringlets.

Well, you can probably guess what my thought was...
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Yes, he is very good. For those more senior people he is the son of Wanda Ventham (UFO).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on December 02, 2011, 07:12:46 PM
While I think currently that "Captian Tightpants" would be great, I was just thinking that Scott Glenn would have made a great Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on December 02, 2011, 07:38:33 PM
I thought of this the other day, and I think this would have been perfect casting for Revisionist 2007.

Adrian Paul = Michael Carpenter
 + We know he can convincingly hold a sword
 + He has experience in scfi/fantasy genre
 - His height is listed at 6'.  Not sure if this is typical Hollywood stretch to 6', or real, but I think Michael is supposed to be almost as tall as Dresden.
(http://www.moviespad.com/photos/adrian-paul-highlander-b5f83.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 03, 2011, 12:07:55 AM
I like that idea but he looks to intense to be the version of micheal i have in my head, though i don't think a person like that actually exists
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on December 12, 2011, 05:22:46 AM
Well, I've got He Who Walks Behind's voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcMx8RiMlk0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcMx8RiMlk0)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on December 12, 2011, 06:19:33 PM
Ive seen a photo of Priscilla... and in a most non-creepy way I find her very attractive. But I am guessing you just threw a name out and meant nothing by that..... yea I am just going to move on.

I was referring to the character in White Night. Priscilla. The name used by the Skavis phage in drag. Hence why I was talking about the Skavis.


This exchange cracked me up.  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: whingnut on December 12, 2011, 09:26:38 PM

This exchange cracked me up.  :D
It is quite funny isn't it.

 I know Priscilla personally the pictures do NOT do her justice. Unattractive is not a word I would associate with her ever. For those who don't know she is OMG tall as well.

I miss you already 'Cellie thanks for all the great times and people you introduced me to it's been a heck of a ride :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on December 12, 2011, 11:12:45 PM
I miss you already 'Cellie thanks for all the great times and people you introduced me to it's been a heck of a ride :)

Why the goodbye?  :(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 13, 2011, 03:31:43 AM
As I understand it, Priscellie is moving to California.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on December 13, 2011, 03:34:40 AM
Ah, thanks! I knew that, but the reference to the people that she had introduced Whingnut confused me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on December 13, 2011, 06:13:10 PM
I Agree

Tibetan Mastiff - FTW
Looks like the "Mouse is a Tibetan Mastiff" thing has been confirmed by WoJ. Hooray!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 15, 2011, 04:58:48 AM
Sean Connery would make an awesome Eb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on December 15, 2011, 05:02:44 AM
Sean Connery would make an awesome whatever.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 15, 2011, 05:07:22 AM
Guy who played captain america for Michael
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on December 15, 2011, 07:42:20 AM
Sean Connery would make an awesome Eb.
I wouldn't be totally against that, but Eb is only supposed to slip into a Scottish accent when he's annoyed; most of the time he's supposed to sound like he's from the Ozarks, since he's lived there for decades. Connery has shown himself to be pretty much incapable of speaking in anything but a Scottish accent. I still say Jeff Bridges for Eb.

Guy who played captain america for Michael
Meh. He's too baby-faced. (He was too baby-faced for Captain America, too.) He's a decent actor, but not stellar enough to make up for not looking the part.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on December 19, 2011, 04:00:58 PM
You know, I still think Captian Tight-pants is still the pick for Harry, but ...

I've been rewatching Babylon 5 over the last month or so, and I've come to the decision that Jerry Doyle (Michale Garabaldi) would be a good fit too.  No he doesn't LOOK the part, but he sure can play the smart-assed PI well.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 19, 2011, 08:13:37 PM
^
I love Jerry Doyle - he's a hoot and a half.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Big-Puff on December 20, 2011, 10:11:40 AM
Harry = Pablo Schreiber
Murphy = Sarah Michelle Gellar
Thomas = Matthew Bomer OR Ian Somerhalder
Morgan = Ron Perlman OR Stephen J. Lang
Michael = Alexander Skarsgård
Bob = James Marsters (Voice)
Lara = Morena Baccarin
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 21, 2011, 01:39:41 AM
Harry = Pablo Schreiber
Murphy = Sarah Michelle Gellar
Thomas = Matthew Bomer OR Ian Somerhalder
Morgan = Ron Perlman OR Stephen J. Lang
Michael = Alexander Skarsgård
Bob = James Marsters (Voice)
Lara = Morena Baccarin

SMG what has become of you............ She is more hard case then hard ass, she is more of a Lara in my eyes or a Aurora
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on December 22, 2011, 01:00:26 AM
Justin Hartley:  Harry Dresden
Allison Mack:  Karrin Murphy

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/JH-AM_HD-KM.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Efialtis on December 22, 2011, 02:28:46 AM
How about we put of for consideration for the part of Harry Dresden, Matt Passmore.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1432956/

??
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Me Grimlock King on December 27, 2011, 07:32:01 PM
Justin Hartley:  Harry Dresden
Allison Mack:  Karrin Murphy

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Griffyn612/JH-AM_HD-KM.jpg)

Ha this, is someone else watching Smallville just like I am?  I cam on here specifically to post the Justin hartley has enough snark to pull off Harry and I see this post.  Fantastic!  James Marsters is also in Smallville and if they cast him as Harry I would be happy as well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on December 28, 2011, 10:56:30 PM
Ha this, is someone else watching Smallville just like I am?  I cam on here specifically to post the Justin hartley has enough snark to pull off Harry and I see this post.  Fantastic!  James Marsters is also in Smallville and if they cast him as Harry I would be happy as well.

Actually, was just satisyfying a momentary thought that Allison Mack would make a good Murphy, and came across the Ollie/Chloe captures.

Currently I'm rewatching White Collar, and casting from the show.

Matt Bomer = Thomas Raith
(https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqbSvXVBb245tLFs14qBEoClgfHMuD3uZSQ4clkjA_86zgzZA0lw)

Willie Garson = Waldo Butters
(https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRQ7S5nX1VUNsgj92smCknG2yZQ2azvP69A3TsqvztpyU0-kiOH_Q)

Marsha Thomason = Tara
(https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTtDwo4jI3uuR5DuVUqIjtBmfE0u15NaKPyDwjGNNHRq3FseiOCHQ)

Gloria Votsis = Susan
(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpDXl_UnmgsHAAHZAqs9zaBZu-4nw2IdosIgW7NjVAm9F6JgLdmw)

Tim DeKay = Agent Denton  (pure type-casting, but what the hey)
(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmzHtoAC1ZsFf30xHPgq2HabrW_OdDbx73tQ7GsL4QADxEr17lnQ)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on December 28, 2011, 11:47:54 PM
I approve the male cast, but not the female. Eh, would you wanted to say Lara or Tera?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 29, 2011, 02:18:43 AM
I still say that this guy would make a good butters if not in look definitely in demeanor

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3459221504/nm0922995
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on December 29, 2011, 02:20:10 AM
Cuddy's boyfriend! It's not a bad idea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 29, 2011, 02:21:29 AM
Yeah he is one of those people who guest stars on like every show, i like him
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: PaperWren on December 29, 2011, 11:42:04 AM
As much as I like Nathan Fillion I've always pictured Harry looking more like one of hosts of Property Brothers(a Canadian home improvement show).
I don't think they act, but they make up for it by being tall and always looking kind of sarcastic.
Picture= http://leftcoasttv.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/248586_10150276139665853_511320852_9387205_7808802_n.jpg (http://leftcoasttv.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/248586_10150276139665853_511320852_9387205_7808802_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cecyrobson on December 30, 2011, 04:06:53 AM
Hugh Jackman has the hawk-like features for Harry, but he's too short to play him.  All the actors I'm thinking of maybe too short.  The actor I'm thinking of whose name I don't know played Gambit in Wolverine's movie, he also stars in Friday Night Lights.  He has the intensity to play Harry, and, I hope, the humor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on December 30, 2011, 04:09:48 AM
Actually, Hugh Jackman is a tall man.  I think FX/makeup could cover the difference. There are no many actors who really are Basketball player size  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 31, 2011, 03:00:16 AM
Yeah, Jackman is over six feet.
They got lucky with Paul Blackthorne - he is a talllll boy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on December 31, 2011, 04:37:41 PM
They would have to dig a BF hold and put Murphy in it to get the eye line straight or build big expensive sets to get the false perspective a la Lord of the Rings.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dresdenite on January 23, 2012, 06:04:31 AM
...and I KNOW i'm gonna catch hell for this, but whenever I read Michael, for some reason, my caffiene-addled brain hears Nic Cage. The creepy part is that it sounds right. What's wrong with me?


And before you say it, "My first guess would be, a lot." is not the correct answer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dresdenite on January 23, 2012, 06:38:44 AM
For all the people fighting over Tom Cruise in the Dresden Files, I have the perfect solution. Cast Mr. Cruise as Rasmussen, the poor soul ensnared by the Fallen Angel Ursiel, killed off in the opening chapters of Death Masks. This way, Tom Cruise is in the movie, all the Cruise fanatics get to see their idol, and the rest of us who AREN'T clinically insane get to see Tom Cruise die!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on January 23, 2012, 07:35:23 AM
Alright, we're back!

I'm still a big fan of Milla Jovovich as Lara, but I considered Jaime Murray a few days ago, and I think she could fit the role rather nicely...
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/JaimeM.jpg)
I haven't seen very much of her work, but whenever she's on a screen I can't help but watch her.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 25, 2012, 04:20:31 AM
I think shes a rather more passive actor from what ive seen, not a bad likeness though
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 25, 2012, 09:43:02 PM
...and I KNOW i'm gonna catch hell for this, but whenever I read Michael, for some reason, my caffiene-addled brain hears Nic Cage. The creepy part is that it sounds right. What's wrong with me?


And before you say it, "My first guess would be, a lot." is not the correct answer.

Sorry Dresdenite, no, no, and no.  Nic Cage is NOT NOW NOR WILL EVER BE Michael.
And, maybe you should cut back on your caffeine. ???
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: TheRedPoet on January 27, 2012, 04:03:46 PM
My issue with most suggestions is that they're too old.
At the beginning of the series, Harry's what? 20 something?
I can't think of many actors that'd fit for whichever roles, but there is one I'm damn sure of.

Murphy - Sarah Michelle Gellar. For sure. Fantastic actress who for damn sure knows both how to pull of bad-ass and emotionally vulnerable.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on January 27, 2012, 06:26:50 PM
I think shes a rather more passive actor from what ive seen
Not sure what you mean by passive. Have you seen Dexter?

My issue with most suggestions is that they're too old.
At the beginning of the series, Harry's what? 20 something?
This has been discussed before. He may be 20 something, but certainly not early twenties. At youngest, he's 25, because in the most recent books he's 40 or nearly 40.

Have to disagree with SMG as Murphy. Renee O'Connor.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Murphy.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 27, 2012, 06:32:50 PM
I'm with Neuroheart - I like Renee O'Connor better than SMG.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: gothicmoon on January 27, 2012, 10:19:34 PM
I'm a great fan of the Mentalist and since I started watching it, I've begun imagining Robin Tunney, who plays agent Lisbon, as Murphy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hivemind66 on January 28, 2012, 12:48:25 AM
I'm probably going to get flak for this, but I honestly can say that I hope they NEVER make Dresden into a movie because I'm pretty certain no matter how much money and effort they throw at it, it will fail to meet my expectations.  HBO TV series would be cool, but again, I think it would flop just like the original because Hollywood has a way to ruin just about everything it touches, sometimes out of necessity (Time/Money/Etc.). 

Dresden has such a large volume of story that it doesn't seem plausable to portray it in a cinematic movie series.  Harry potter was only 7 books and it took 8 movies to do, and not everyone feels they did the books justice (Although I loved both :P).  25+ books in movie or even TV show format seems like a logistical nightmare and it would feel crammed, rushed and lets face it, most people's attention span is about that of a gnat these days.  I don't think it would work.

Am I the only one that feels this way?  Post was TLDR
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 28, 2012, 01:25:53 AM
Am I the only one that feels this way?  Post was TLDR

My opinion on it was that if it was done on a pay channel (HBO, Showtime, or Starz), and they did it in mini-series fashion, then it could work.  For the early books, have 4 1-hour episodes in 4 consecutive weeks, and then for later books, 4 2-hour episodes in 4 consecutive weeks.  I'd also air them during the month in which they took place, so that they maintained a certain seasonal setting for the viewers.  So SF would be in April, FM the same year in October, GP a year later in October, and so on.  It would still take ages to complete, but viewer attention spans would only be required for a month at a time, for 2 months a year at most.

In other news, in tribute to the series finale of Chuck, I contribute the following casting:

Zachary Levi = Harry Dresden
Yvonne Strahovski = Karrin Murphy
Matt Bomer = Thomas Raith
Adam Baldwin = Donald Morgan
Bonita Friedericy = Original Anastasia Luccio
Joshua Gomez = Waldo Butters
Scott Krinsky = Ron Carmichael
Mark Christopher Lawrence = Henry Rawlins
Ryan McPartlin = Hendricks
Sarah Lancaster = Monica Sells
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 28, 2012, 07:35:22 PM
For all the people fighting over Tom Cruise in the Dresden Files, I have the perfect solution. Cast Mr. Cruise as Rasmussen, the poor soul ensnared by the Fallen Angel Ursiel, killed off in the opening chapters of Death Masks. This way, Tom Cruise is in the movie, all the Cruise fanatics get to see their idol, and the rest of us who AREN'T clinically insane get to see Tom Cruise die!
Hey i refuse to be called a fanatic, im an enthusiast...of making SL bash her head against the wall
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 28, 2012, 09:18:37 PM
Hey i refuse to be called a fanatic, im an enthusiast...of making SL bash her head against the wall

No, you're more likely to make me bash YOUR head against the wall.  Grins Very Evilly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 31, 2012, 05:25:31 AM
I is............scared :'(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on January 31, 2012, 02:57:42 PM
Tom Cruise could be Toot toot. Wouldn't even need the special effects to shrink him.

BTW how's tricks GW? Not spoken to you since The Darkness ended. Did you send a PM to me? It disappeared into the ether when the world was plunged into darkness.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 31, 2012, 09:28:18 PM
Hey mdodd i have no cluse  ??? maybe? i can barely remember what happened two years ago much less what happened a few weeks ago

How are ya?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 02, 2012, 04:59:45 AM
Tom Cruise could be Toot toot. Wouldn't even need the special effects to shrink him.

BTW how's tricks GW? Not spoken to you since The Darkness ended. Did you send a PM to me? It disappeared into the ether when the world was plunged into darkness.

Nope.  I have too much respect for Toot for him to be reduced to that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 02, 2012, 05:07:27 AM
But tom cruise and his idealogy are what i look up to (not really look UP considering im like 6 inches taller than him)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 02, 2012, 03:43:35 PM
Man, I can't believe this topic is still going. Think it's time for a reboot?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 03, 2012, 01:17:25 AM
Nah too much fun has gone into this incarnation
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Seriphina on February 07, 2012, 09:24:35 PM
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,30881.0.html (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,30881.0.html)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 07, 2012, 09:42:56 PM
I like Liam Neeson for the part except that i have had Sean Connery burned into my head as Eb since Blood Rites.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 07, 2012, 09:51:01 PM
I thought Eb was supposed to be short and stocky.  Was I off on that? 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 07, 2012, 09:53:06 PM
No.  Eb is described as short and stocky.
Of course next to Harry, the vast majority of Wizards (excepting Rashid) are short and stocky. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 07, 2012, 09:58:22 PM
At first I always imagined Wilford Brimley as Eb.  I don't know where I got the idea, but either there was a WoJ about it, or someone else on the boards said it, and it just stuck in my head.  Of course, then I thought that the cowboy from the ESPN commercials would be good instead.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 08, 2012, 12:15:50 AM
liam neeson would make a good morgan
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 08, 2012, 02:11:35 AM
liam neeson would make a good morgan

QFT
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 08, 2012, 02:14:03 AM
QFT I am not familiar with this term. Ill assume it's positive as i have never crossed anyone in this thread in the past
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 08, 2012, 03:37:27 AM
QFT I am not familiar with this term. Ill assume it's positive as i have never crossed anyone in this thread in the past

QFT = Quoted for Truth

Or Quantum field theory, take your pick.

Either way, I don't really see that.  I'd rather seen Neeson as a more important role.   He'd be a good nominee for DuMorne.  He's been a Jedi mentor and Batman's mentor.  Why not Dresden's mentor as well?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 08, 2012, 03:40:17 AM
DuMorne more important than Morgan? Did he pay you to say that?

(btb i totally see your point on the mentor thing though i want him to be morgan)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on February 08, 2012, 03:49:57 AM
I envision Neeson more as Michael than Morgan or DuMorne. That's just me, though...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 08, 2012, 03:52:56 AM
Why when we have a perfectly good michael in Nathan fillion
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 08, 2012, 04:00:35 AM
Why when we have a perfectly good michael in Nathan fillion

agreed.

Quantum field theory all the way there.

Although after last night's Castle, where Fillion was narrating a film noir first-person journal, I have to say that it's the closest I've ever been to supporting him for Harry.  But he's just not a physical match.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 08, 2012, 04:02:14 AM
ooo yeah that was good
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 08, 2012, 04:34:08 AM
Neeson would be my pick for Malcolm Dresden. I can't really see him as anyone else.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 08, 2012, 04:36:37 AM
i never really thought we needed a Malcolm despite what the tv show did
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 08, 2012, 04:38:25 AM
i never really thought we needed a Malcolm despite what the tv show did
But he appears in the books. (Did not watch much of the tv show.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 08, 2012, 04:39:30 AM
He only appears once and i feel it would be better as a disembodied head.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 08, 2012, 04:43:23 AM
Oh no, I wanted somebody with a real presence. Neeson is a very good choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 08, 2012, 04:44:04 AM
He only appears once
Well... kind of. Harry's though/talked about him more than once, though, and at those times I imagine the man he's talking about, and that man looks like Liam Neeson.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 08, 2012, 04:54:32 AM
I suppose
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on February 08, 2012, 05:43:19 AM
While we're discussing Neeson, I'd like to put him forward for Marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 08, 2012, 05:50:31 AM
I can see that
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 08, 2012, 09:22:34 AM
Sorry guys, I'd love to see Nathan Fillion in a Dresden Files movie but he's not Michael.
He belongs somewhere just not that role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 08, 2012, 03:14:32 PM
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Family_Ties.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MetalFae on February 09, 2012, 03:58:03 PM
Seriously? WHY isn't Robert Downey Jr. on here? :D He has the wild hair, crazy dare devil antics, best of all he's pretty good at being sarcastic... He's perfect! Haha. At least IMO ;) But that Nathan guy could work pretty well too!

http://beautiful-pics.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Robert_Downey_Jr_23.jpg


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 09, 2012, 07:19:52 PM
Actually come to think of it - Nathan Fillion would make a great Butters.
Some glasses, hair cut, and the right wardrobe and he'd be terrific.
So would Robert Downey, Jr.  Of course RDjr could do a good Rudy also.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 09, 2012, 08:32:01 PM
Actually come to think of it - Nathan Fillion would make a great Butters.
Except for the fact that Butters is short and wiry and Nathan Fillion is a strapping 6'1". Butters is also described as being stereotypically Jewish, with dark curly hair and dark eyes. I mean, I'm sure Fillion could act the part because he's a very good actor, but he doesn't fit the part very well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MetalFae on February 09, 2012, 09:07:00 PM
I had a patient at work today that was pretty much the ideal spitting image of Ebenezer McCoy right down to the flannel...I half expected him to call me 'Hoss' at any moment  ;D 

And then I realized: Oh Man, I need a life.  :o lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 09, 2012, 09:54:26 PM
Welcome to fandom. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 10, 2012, 04:33:13 AM
Welcome to fandom. ;D ;D

Lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 10, 2012, 05:39:33 AM
And then I realized: Oh Man, I need a life.  :o lol

What is this "life" you speak of?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 10, 2012, 05:41:14 AM
What is this "life" you speak of?

Is that a kind of pokemon?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 10, 2012, 08:20:50 AM
Life?? Life?  We don't need no filthy stink'n life!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MetalFae on February 10, 2012, 03:23:16 PM
Is that a kind of pokemon?


Haha! It's a 'Pika Pika' kind of life! ;) 

Hooray for nostalgia and the life sucking vortex that is fandom!  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SJD on February 12, 2012, 11:08:09 PM
Actually come to think of it - Nathan Fillion would make a great Butters.
Some glasses, hair cut, and the right wardrobe and he'd be terrific.
So would Robert Downey, Jr.  Of course RDjr could do a good Rudy also.


Downey would be perfect if he were tall enough,...but he's considerably too short. The Fillion Guy is not even close to Harry in any way in my opinion.

Jackman would be solid,...but i don't know if he could pull off Harry's special brand of snark which is actually hilarious.

To be honest i think the best guy for the part is probably an unknown.

But if i had to go with a "name" actor,...i'd have to go with Chris Evans or Ryan Reynolds. Outside of Downey, they are the only other actors listed here that have the acting "chops" and or wit to portray Harry as closely as possible to the Novels.

And though they are not exceptionally tall,...they are not short. With the proper shoes you could get them up to 6-4 or better.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on February 13, 2012, 01:06:44 AM

Downey would be perfect if he were tall enough,...but he's considerably too short. The Fillion Guy is not even close to Harry in any way in my opinion.

Jackman would be solid,...but i don't know if he could pull off Harry's special brand of snark which is actually hilarious.

To be honest i think the best guy for the part is probably an unknown.

But if i had to go with a "name" actor,...i'd have to go with Chris Evans or Ryan Reynolds. Outside of Downey, they are the only other actors listed here that have the acting "chops" and or wit to portray Harry as closely as possible to the Novels.

And though they are not exceptionally tall,...they are not short. With the proper shoes you could get them up to 6-4 or better.

Physically, the actor I think of for Harry is Zachary Levi.  He's 6'3 or 6'4 and can do the snark.

But if I'm thinking of pure acting chops, I'd say David Tennant hands down...but he's not very tall, around 5'10, I think.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 13, 2012, 02:49:15 AM
As I've said in this thread before - the height thing can be worked around to a degree.
Apple boxes, camera angles, and trenches.  In the classic Western - Shane - Alan Ladd was supposed to be walking along side of Jack Palance and they were supposed to be the same height.  Wrong.
Ladd was about 5'8" and Palance was 6 foot something.  They solved the problem by digging a trench
for Palance to walk in.
Also reallly tall actors who can act are not that common.  The TV series actually got very
lucky with Paul Blackthorne.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 13, 2012, 02:50:49 AM
Yes, I insist Blackthorne was a great choice  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 13, 2012, 03:17:22 AM
The Fillion Guy is not even close to Harry in any way in my opinion...if he could pull off Harry's special brand of snark... the only other actors listed here that have the acting "chops" and or wit to portray Harry as closely as possible to the Novels.
Just my opinion, but you clearly haven't seen Fillion in anything. Special brand of snark? I can't think of anyone who does it better. And he can be deadly serious and scary when it's called for. Fillion has twice the acting range of Ryan Reynolds.

But if I'm thinking of pure acting chops, I'd say David Tennant hands down...but he's not very tall, around 5'10, I think.
Tennant is 6'1" and a string bean. He could totally do it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 13, 2012, 05:15:20 AM
Just my opinion, but you clearly haven't seen Fillion in anything. Special brand of snark? I can't think of anyone who does it better. And he can be deadly serious and scary when it's called for. Fillion has twice the acting range of Ryan Reynolds.
Tennant is 6'1" and a string bean. He could totally do it.

I agree that fillion is good but you obviously haven't seen Reynolds in enough stuff

Here is a show that had them both
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137330/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MetalFae on February 13, 2012, 04:48:19 PM
Ryan Renalds is WAY to Frat boy-ish and he can't help but let that seep into every single character he plays. Dresden is not Frat boy. He likes Star Wars...and LotR. Frat Boys do not like Sci Fi/Fantasy. Reynolds is too....pretty.  :o Just my opinion though  :P Who knows he might be able to pull it off but I've only ever seen him act like an annoying frat boy in everything he's done. Even in Green Lantern...don't get me started on that one, lol!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 13, 2012, 09:46:21 PM
In what is sure to devastate women across the globe as much as it has devastated my wife, Matt Bomer (Chuck, White Collar, fan favorite for casting Thomas Raith) has come out.  Good news all around, as thats one more off my wife's 'exception' list.  Now I just need to keep her away from Brad Pitt and a couple others, and we're good to go.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/13/matt-bomer-comes-out-gay-thanks-partner_n_1272997.html

Regardless, anyone who's watched Chuck or White Collar knows that the guy can act, and I still think he's the best choice for Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on February 13, 2012, 10:48:15 PM
Bomer's closet door was pretty soundly ajar before this, but I'm delighted he's now comfortable enough to share this aspect of his private life with the public.  That takes serious courage, especially considering his sex symbol status.  Congrats on both the award and your Decloseting Day, Matt!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 13, 2012, 11:16:47 PM
I agree wuth Pris! Also, he is gorgeous, I don't care if he is gay. He is a perfect Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 13, 2012, 11:49:39 PM
Besides Thomas is gay anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 14, 2012, 01:42:25 AM
No, Thomas isn't gay - he prefers women but when the Hunger is on him - he'll use a guy.
The WC are somewhat bisexual.  Some will use anything that moves that's human, others like Thomas, have a preference one way or the other.  But their Hunger trumps whatever their preference might be.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 14, 2012, 01:44:51 AM
No, Thomas isn't gay - he prefers women but when the Hunger is on him - he'll use a guy.
The WC are somewhat bisexual.  Some will use anything that moves that's human, others like Thomas, have a preference one way or the other.  But their Hunger trumps whatever their preference might be.


*takes snow aside* Hey snow um i know we've had problems before, but i think you should know that the winky face means i was joking. It's ok, my VOICE, is kinda hard to discern.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 14, 2012, 01:46:04 AM
Sorry GW, didn't pay attention to the winky face just the text.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 14, 2012, 01:47:39 AM
It's ok i was im just in the jocular mood
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 14, 2012, 01:49:41 AM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 14, 2012, 07:41:43 AM
I cast Paul McCartney as the Mac
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 14, 2012, 07:47:09 AM
^
Sigh.  (Shakes head) And here just when I think you're all grown up.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 14, 2012, 07:48:21 AM
Nah we're just talking about him in weird and i thought it would be ironic if he were Mac
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 14, 2012, 07:50:46 AM
Ah.

Mac is like Michael - one of those characters that are hard to describe but you'll know him when
you see him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 14, 2012, 07:53:12 AM
Yeah, he needs to not stand out, but if he's missing you definitely know he's gone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 14, 2012, 07:56:34 AM
Hmmmm, just had a thought for Michael.  Would need a bit of makeup to age him - but
how about David Wenham.  (Faramir from LoTR)  He's stocky, looks good in a beard, can do snark, and you
trust him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 14, 2012, 07:59:46 AM
I could kind of see that, I was also thinking the guy who played Boromir after seeing him in Game of Thrones, that was like dead on Michael in Body and spirit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 14, 2012, 08:20:53 AM
I could kind of see that, I was also thinking the guy who played Boromir after seeing him in Game of Thrones, that was like dead on Michael in Body and spirit.

Sean Bean is good (Boromir) but David Wenham has a more trustworthy and open face than Bean.
His face is more 'good' if you will.  He looks like he has Michael's sweetness of spirit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: habu987 on February 14, 2012, 01:06:40 PM
I've only got two actors that I can even remotely see for Michael in my head - Tom Selleck (iffy) and Liam Neeson (definitely). I can't think of any other actors who are the right age/height/physicality and have the gravitas to pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 14, 2012, 02:05:27 PM
I had an idea for Butters Neil Patrick Harris
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MetalFae on February 14, 2012, 03:07:25 PM
I totally agree with Snow, the guy who played Faramir! Boromir has the forever legacy of being the guy in LotR that was tempted by evil. That character will follow him everywhere and Michael like Snow said just has an all around good 'aura' about him. Faramir fits that perfectly!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on February 14, 2012, 03:41:04 PM
I've only got two actors that I can even remotely see for Michael in my head - Tom Selleck (iffy) and Liam Neeson (definitely). I can't think of any other actors who are the right age/height/physicality and have the gravitas to pull it off.

Paul Gross. He may be a little beyond the age now, but he's definitely got the look and character projection.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 14, 2012, 09:14:21 PM
Sean Bean always seems a little world weary for Michael.  This is how I picture Michael
hmm I cant seem  to figure out how to add a photo Nikolaj Coster-Waldau is the actor is playing Jamie In HBO's Game of Thrones series.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 14, 2012, 09:38:42 PM
Search the picture you like. Right click on it, "copy image URL". Then in the posting window, go to the small icon with a picture (is the Gioconda) that is right above the smilies, on your left. Then  "" will appear. Paste the URL you copied and ready! It must look like "(http://www.wjkhkh.html)"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 15, 2012, 12:36:25 AM
Thank you here is the picture also do worry he can play a good guy as well
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjI0OTg5MTI1OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDkwMTkxNw@@._V1._SX214_CR0,0,214,314_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 15, 2012, 12:52:56 AM
I liked the picture, he doesn't look like Jamie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 15, 2012, 03:20:05 AM
Mayhaps
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 16, 2012, 03:37:13 AM
Can't see it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 16, 2012, 03:41:52 AM
Awww
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 16, 2012, 03:43:52 AM
WJM, go to the broken image, copy the URL and paste it in another browse page. You will see it, and it will be fixed for you. It happened to me like that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 16, 2012, 01:54:08 PM
Why is Nathan Fillion the number one answer, not that he isn' awesome, he just reminds me more of a maybe Fix, or Michael (he has his own subtle snark which is why he is awesome)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 16, 2012, 05:56:26 PM
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjI0OTg5MTI1OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDkwMTkxNw@@._V1._SX214_CR0,0,214,314_.jpg)
Okay, I haven't even seen anything this guy is in and he looks like a villain to me.

Why is Nathan Fillion the number one answer
Because he can play smart-ass, and he can also play hard-ass, and he does both rather well. He's also decently tall, has the coloring for it, and is good looking without being a pretty boy. And he looks good in long coats.
I see Michael as shorter and a bit broader at the shoulders. I also think it would take a special kind of talent to be that righteous without being irritating. Perhaps Nathan could do it, but I think he's much better suited to a more... light-hearted character, for lack of a better term. (Not that Harry is never serious, just that he's serious in a different way than Michael is.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 16, 2012, 06:32:41 PM
I always pegged Harry as being thinner than NF.  The man is muscled, which in any other role would be a boon, but Harry is more...beanstalk than tree.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 16, 2012, 09:14:52 PM
I always pegged Harry as being thinner than NF.  The man is muscled, which in any other role would be a boon, but Harry is more...beanstalk than tree.
An excellent point, but it's always possible (even easy) to take muscle off. And Fillion was fairly skinny when he was younger.
The beanstalk thing is why David Tennant is probably my new favorite when I picture Harry, but I still think Nathan could have played him brilliantly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 16, 2012, 09:23:54 PM
I like Tennant a lot, but I still think Blackthorne was a great choice, almost perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on February 17, 2012, 04:21:21 PM
Not sure if anyone has cast her yet, but I think Tricia Helfer as Lara would be Perfect.

(http://images.askmen.com/photos/tricia-helfer/85953.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on February 17, 2012, 06:22:13 PM
Not sure if anyone has cast her yet, but I think Tricia Helfer as Lara would be Perfect.

(http://images.askmen.com/photos/tricia-helfer/85953.jpg)

True, the woman just radiates sex appeal.  She could probably pull off Lara quite well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on February 17, 2012, 06:39:59 PM
True, the woman just radiates sex appeal.  She could probably pull off Lara quite well.

I hope you meant Mab.  I was thinking she could be either.  But I'd prefer her as Lara  ;D

On another note, I'd cast Jessica Biel as Molly...

(http://www.moviepicturedb.com/pictures/10_01/2004/359013/l_359013_a0ae326d.jpg)

I think she'd do a good rag lady too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 18, 2012, 01:33:59 PM
Not sure if anyone has cast her yet, but I think Tricia Helfer as Lara would be Perfect.

(http://images.askmen.com/photos/tricia-helfer/85953.jpg)

I've thought of Tricia Helfer as several roles, but never Lara.  If I remember, she's supposed to exude sex, but she's not supposed to look artificial or Hollywood. 

I was thinking a Tricia Helfer/Jeri Ryan combo as Mab/Titania.

I pictured Lara as more like Olivia Wilde.  Maybe not Olivia Wilde, but like Olivia Wilde.  But Olivia Wilde will do in a pinch, I suppose.

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Team_Raith.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 18, 2012, 05:04:05 PM
I like the Triciia/Jeri combo as Mab/Titania.

I always pictured Lara as a brunnette.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 18, 2012, 05:47:04 PM
I like the Triciia/Jeri combo as Mab/Titania.

I always pictured Lara as a brunnette.

me too i thought her and thomas both were
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 18, 2012, 07:15:38 PM
Jeri Ryan as Titania?
(http://www.beertripper.com/OffTopic/off_pics/Jeri_Ryan/Jeri_Ryan_busty.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 18, 2012, 07:19:20 PM
Jeri Ryan as Titania?
(http://www.beertripper.com/OffTopic/off_pics/Jeri_Ryan/Jeri_Ryan_busty.jpg)

YeS!!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 18, 2012, 07:29:29 PM
Seconded!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on February 19, 2012, 12:28:10 AM
I felt Zachary Quinto could pull off both the physical and character aspects of Harry. He's not precisely the right look but pretty firmly in the ballpark with the sort of a tall guy with a rather sinister look about him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 19, 2012, 12:58:10 AM
Question: Would you like her as Lara or Madeleine?

(http://informeurbano.com.ar/sistema/fotos/thumbs/1-juana-viale-595842765.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 19, 2012, 04:39:42 AM
Definitely Madeline good choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 19, 2012, 05:08:31 AM
Thanks! She looks the part.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on February 19, 2012, 07:31:48 AM
Jeri Ryan as Titania?
(http://www.beertripper.com/OffTopic/off_pics/Jeri_Ryan/Jeri_Ryan_busty.jpg)

Sold.  *gets a mop for drool puddle*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on February 19, 2012, 09:28:23 AM
Wow, this is a long thread, lol, if I read all of it I could be here for days. Glad to find it here, though, because I actually registered to ask if anyone had heard of Benedict Cumberbatch and thought he could play Thomas? I just came across this thing on youtube of him reading "Ode to a Nightengale" and... well, listen for yourself, ladies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64eonMsecAA
I just think that voice needs to be Thomas. And he's pretty, too. He has dark hair in Sherlock, if anyone has seen that, and it looks good on him. With those eyes and those cheekbones... Am I wrong, here?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on February 19, 2012, 09:32:22 AM
Ok so I saw xmen first class a little while ago, but it stuck me how creepily evil Kevin Bacon's character is (...ummm Sebastian Shaw, had to look that up). But it just reminded me so much of Nicodemus , that practical evil. Then again he plays a few creepy characters does'nt he?
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSykrrbpe6hzMXKGBYtVI8F-zwVHVX3yIGnM9Echg5wpxY8VFzX)
And I said before , from seeing the promotional pics of the same movie, This guy - http://www.imdb.com/media/rm20232448/nm1682733 - For Rameirez.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 19, 2012, 09:48:40 AM
I was thinking a Tricia Helfer/Jeri Ryan combo as Mab/Titania.
That's an interesting idea. I personally like Juliet Landau for Mab, but this is a pretty good idea.

I always pictured Lara as a brunnette.
That might be because she's described as such...  ;)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/JaimeM.jpg)
(I would still also submit Milla for the role without hesitation.)

I just think that voice needs to be Thomas. And he's pretty, too. He has dark hair in Sherlock, if anyone has seen that, and it looks good on him. With those eyes and those cheekbones... Am I wrong, here?
NO, you're not wrong, I've actually thought the same thing!

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Thomas3.jpg)



Holy gods, though, that reading... Yeah. Um, thank you for that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 19, 2012, 11:22:01 AM
Deep breaths, deep breaths.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 19, 2012, 11:24:59 AM
No drooling - you'll short your keyboard! ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 19, 2012, 11:26:52 AM
I'm already saving up to get Sherlock on DVD.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 19, 2012, 06:41:27 PM
My keyboard is just fine, thanks for your concern  :P

I'm already saving up to get Sherlock on DVD.  ;D
I'm hoping it'll be on itunes, which tends to be more reasonable than overseas DVD sets. (Being Human for $11-$14 instead of $30, for example.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 19, 2012, 09:28:03 PM
I'm already saving up to get Sherlock on DVD.  ;D

It's on netflix.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on February 20, 2012, 06:40:43 AM
Um, thank you for that.
You're very welcome!  ;D
(So glad it's not just me!)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 20, 2012, 07:45:29 PM
It's on netflix.

My internet connection is awful and the having is always worth it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 21, 2012, 12:13:33 AM
My internet connection is awful and the having is always worth it.

It is.  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 23, 2012, 02:02:36 AM
Don't know who she is, or if she can act.  But saw her on the interwebs, and thought that she might be able to pull off both good Molly and bad Molly.  Apparently she quit acting to focus on her music career.

Taylor Momsen - 18y - 5'8"+ (rumored to possibly be taller)
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Taylor_Momson-Molly_Carpenter.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 23, 2012, 02:09:21 AM
maybe i see molly being dainty and ready to kick ass.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 23, 2012, 02:14:22 AM
I love your signature so much Griffyn  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 23, 2012, 02:41:41 AM
I love your signature so much Griffyn  :D

Thanks.  I'm thinking about editing it, to have a Molly drawn in by... well, Molly.

Edit:  Annnd.... done.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 23, 2012, 02:44:24 AM
Thanks.  I'm thinking about editing it, to have a Molly drawn in by... well, Molly.

oooo that what be awesome
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 23, 2012, 02:57:40 AM
maybe i see molly being dainty...
"Built like the proverbial brick house" means "dainty"?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 23, 2012, 02:58:33 AM
Buffys frame is how i see her kinda
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 23, 2012, 07:08:40 AM
Buffys frame is how i see her kinda
Buffy was 5'2" with almost no visible muscle and a fairly modest bosom.
Molly and Charity have both been described as being above average height for women and possessing some definite curves, as well as having some muscle on them. The Carpenter women are decidedly not "dainty." (I think there's even a line somewhere about Charity not being a dainty flower. Molly explicitly takes after her mother.)
Molly would need to be played by a bombshell with some height, and preferably some visible muscle tone. This Taylor Momsen is definitely a good choice, looks-wise (she has the perfect face) and height-wise. If she spent a couple months lifting weights, she might be a dead ringer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thaumologist on February 23, 2012, 09:30:25 AM
Yeah, I could definitely see Taylor being Molly. I was going to say "doing Molly", but realized this was the internet.

EDIT
I knew I recognized her face - Taylor is the singer with the taped over nipples that was in the news a while back.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cdpayne on February 23, 2012, 04:25:12 PM
I think that Hugh Jackman would be a great fit for Dresden. The look of that they did in Van Helsing is how I would imagine Dresden looking, especially with his duster. Give him a staff and a blasting rod and you have Dresden.

(http://)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 24, 2012, 01:30:12 AM
Okay, I need some help for Aurora/Lily and Maeve.  Any casting ideas?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 24, 2012, 01:57:40 AM
mm, Dakota Fanning?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 24, 2012, 02:23:17 AM
mm, Dakota Fanning?

I don't really picture her for any of them.  I think she's too short for how I envision them. 

Although I do think her sister, Elle Fanning, might eventually be a candidate for Ivy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 24, 2012, 02:28:01 AM
It's ok. I see her more like Aurora, but when I saw this picture I thought in Maeve.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9UNipHlHZeE/TPKNSDE-E4I/AAAAAAAABPs/OzfTLZkGG1E/s1600/Dakota_Vmagazineshoot001.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 24, 2012, 03:03:02 AM
Of course, now I'm drifting back to Spencer Locke as Molly.  She's how I've always pictured her.

Punk Molly                              Apprentice Molly                      Mature Molly
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Spencer_Locke-Molly_Carpenter.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 24, 2012, 07:43:07 AM
Okay, I need some help for Aurora/Lily and Maeve.  Any casting ideas?
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/summerlady.jpg) (http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/Summer.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Maeve.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 24, 2012, 03:10:28 PM
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/summerlady.jpg) (http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/Summer.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Maeve.jpg)

I think they'd have to be younger.  I think Dresden described Maeve in SK as looking young enough to not to want to get caught looking or something.  And Aurora was her practical twin, and Lily was a teenager.

I've actually thought Olivia Wilde would make a good Lara, but others don't seem to agree with that sentiment.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on February 24, 2012, 04:01:20 PM
Actually I think Olivia Wilde would make a great Elaine.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 24, 2012, 04:05:12 PM
See i think Olivia Wilde would make a good Helen Beckitt
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on February 24, 2012, 04:17:14 PM
See... I see Helen Beckitt as much older than late 20s. You'd have to age her significantly. I see someone more like Sigourney Weaver as Helen Beckitt.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 24, 2012, 04:26:19 PM
Shes still young and attractive enough to be marcones main squeeze
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on February 24, 2012, 04:53:20 PM
Marcone was in his forties in Storm Front, though. And she has a teenage/twenty-something daughter. According to Prisecllie's timeline, Helen's daughter was about 10yo 3-4 years before Storm Front. That makes her 13-14 when we first meet Helen. It's possible that Helen had a kid at 13-14 years old herself, but I don't get that feeling.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 24, 2012, 06:32:51 PM
Actually I think Olivia Wilde would make a great Elaine.
Amy Acker is my pick for Elaine.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Elaine.jpg)

See i think Olivia Wilde would make a good Helen Beckitt
As others have said, Helen is a little older. Her character is also rather icy and vulnerable, which it takes a certain kind of actress to pull off. I see Bebe Neuwirth.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Demeter.jpg)
(Still attractive enough for Marcone, I'd wager.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 24, 2012, 10:28:20 PM
My current image of Elaine is Anna Torv.  But that's because I like Elaine, and I'm currently crushing on Anna due to her awesomeness on Fringe.

I was originally thinking Mab for Anna, but then I went on that whole Tricia Helfer/Jeri Ryan duo for the queens.

(http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Anna-Torv-f15.jpg)
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTM2OTg5ODAyN15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTQ2MDU4Mg@@._V1._SX435_SY653_.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eHkTwd4aRic/TIF_gpwM0lI/AAAAAAAAU_Y/bispLeu8Rys/s1600/a681d4831e1eb0c72154c7dd6a65bbb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 25, 2012, 12:57:52 AM
Yeah, I could definitely see Taylor being Molly. I was going to say "doing Molly", but realized this was the internet.

EDIT
I knew I recognized her face - Taylor is the singer with the taped over nipples that was in the news a while back.

She is Cindy Lou Who!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Grim on February 26, 2012, 07:51:41 AM
Aurora
(http://www.filmfamous.com/images/taylor-swift-1.jpg)
I think she's the definition of fae beauty. Plus she's got just a hint of crazy eyes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on February 26, 2012, 08:19:34 AM
Aurora
(http://www.filmfamous.com/images/taylor-swift-1.jpg)
I think she's the definition of fae beauty. Plus she's got just a hint of crazy eyes.
Yeah, but she needs to hide her crazy until the end of Summer Knight.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 26, 2012, 02:37:43 PM
I like it  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 26, 2012, 11:25:22 PM
Aurora
(http://www.filmfamous.com/images/taylor-swift-1.jpg)
I think she's the definition of fae beauty. Plus she's got just a hint of crazy eyes.

She's really tall, so I actually originally thought of her for Georgia.  Admittedly, it was while she and Lautner were dating, and I was thinking "he's already a wolf-boy, he can be Billy, and she can be Georgia".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 26, 2012, 11:29:44 PM
Oscars tonight watch for some stars
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 26, 2012, 11:45:37 PM
I'm sure you could find something for CLooney's girlfriend. Perhaps Molly. She is really tall and blonde.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 27, 2012, 12:46:26 AM
I think she's the definition of fae beauty.
I think we must have different definitions of Fae beauty. Not to say she isn't pretty, but beautiful beyond the pale? Not to my eye.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 27, 2012, 01:17:39 AM
I think we must have different definitions of Fae beauty. Not to say she isn't pretty, but beautiful beyond the pale? Not to my eye.

I was originally thinking that it would be best to cast Europeans for all of the Fae characters, to give them a sense of foreign beauty.  Mostly eastern European, with accents that wouldn't sound so familiar.

Like my favorite for Leah, Klodi Monsoon.
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/319/0/3/03e6f37524dac2aa7c5ddd8082705a43-d4gan74.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 27, 2012, 03:54:55 AM
Liam Neeson is my die hard Michael after seeing Grey Today.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on February 27, 2012, 05:12:36 AM
I only have four roles in mind and I think these actors would fulfill them beautifully:

Michael: Ewan McGreggor, I know he's not quite the build but after seeing Angels and Demons, he would be my choice.
Kincaid: Bradley Cooper
Voice of Bob: Jason Lee
Leah: This HAS to be Famke Janssen!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 27, 2012, 06:17:28 AM
I was originally thinking that it would be best to cast Europeans for all of the Fae characters, to give them a sense of foreign beauty.  Mostly eastern European, with accents that wouldn't sound so familiar.

Like my favorite for Leah, Klodi Monsoon.
She is definitely gorgeous, but I still think she looks more like Deirdre than Leah. Plus there's zero assurance that she could really act the part of Leah.

Leah: This HAS to be Famke Janssen!
...Why?
Sorry, I've seen her name come up a few times here, always for the characters who are stunningly gorgeous and good at the sweetly venomous thing, and I just don't think she's all that special. Again, she's attractive, but not beyond the bounds of most women who are attractive for a living. She's an okay actress, but I've never seen her pull off the subtlety that would be required for Lara or Leah, who can be vicious while they smile and tenderly stroke one's hair, and absolutely convincing in their deceits. The list of drop-dead gorgeous women who have blown me away with their performances of deceptively sincere, dangerous characters is fairly short. Right at the top of the list, with red hair and perfect skin, is Christina Hendricks, who I've pictured in the role since the first description I read of Leah. (After her is Jamie Murray, who has black hair and pale skin, but looks fantastic in white. I'd kill to see her firing a gun in black lingerie, too.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 27, 2012, 06:37:25 AM
She is definitely gorgeous, but I still think she looks more like Deirdre than Leah. Plus there's zero assurance that she could really act the part of Leah.

Yeah, her ability to act would be a problem for casting, but I'd still have her in for a casting call.

...Why?
Sorry, I've seen her name come up a few times here, always for the characters who are stunningly gorgeous and good at the sweetly venomous thing, and I just don't think she's all that special. Again, she's attractive, but not beyond the bounds of most women who are attractive for a living. She's an okay actress, but I've never seen her pull off the subtlety that would be required for Lara or Leah, who can be vicious while they smile and tenderly stroke one's hair, and absolutely convincing in their deceits. The list of drop-dead gorgeous women who have blown me away with their performances of deceptively sincere, dangerous characters is fairly short. Right at the top of the list, with red hair and perfect skin, is Christina Hendricks, who I've pictured in the role since the first description I read of Leah. (After her is Jamie Murray, who has black hair and pale skin, but looks fantastic in white. I'd kill to see her firing a gun in black lingerie, too.)

I've posted Famke for Leah before too.  It would have had to have been a younger Famke, but did you see how off her rocker she acted in Goldeneye and in X-Men United?  She went from sweet and caring to crazy real quick.  That's how I picture Leah most of the time.  That, and she has the looks. 

I've also seen Christina Hendricks for Leah, and I might agree with that, but not 100%.  Maybe Firefly Christina rather than Mad Men Christina.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on February 27, 2012, 07:10:30 AM
I didn't pick Famke Janssen for her physical attributes or because I think she is "stunning goregeous". Frankly, I have yet to see a single actress that that I was describe with the same sort of other-worldly beauty commonly attributed to the fae. I picked her because I think she could pull off the sweetly venomous character of the Leanansidhe. Especially after reading Leah's part in Changes. Leave the "stunning beauty of the immortal fae" to the makeup artists and computer animators.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 27, 2012, 07:45:00 AM
She went from sweet and caring to crazy real quick.  That's how I picture Leah most of the time.
Well, I guess I just disagree. I picture Leah as both. At the same time. The only time she's really had "mood swings" was when she was locked in Arctis Tor. All other times she comes off as acting very normal about being very... not normal. She actually doesn't act crazy, she acts cold. She is, most often, alluring in all respects, with nothing in her behavior really being a tip-off for how dangerous she is, but that danger is there all the same. Peril simmers in the air around her, but is easy to miss or ignore because she looks kind, beautiful, flawless, and even serene. Poisoned nectar that seduces mortals to their doom, without setting off any alarm bells in the unwary.

Quote
Maybe Firefly Christina rather than Mad Men Christina.
Well, yeah, of course. It was her performance on Firefly that was the basis of how I picture Leah behaving. I can't imagine that her skills have fled her in the years since then, though, especially since I know Mad Men has generated some level of acclaim (I haven't watched it.)

I picked her because I think she could pull off the sweetly venomous character of the Leanansidhe.
I love that you're using my words for the character and everything, but again I ask, "Why?" What indications has she ever given that she is able to pull off a character who is menacing and inviting at the same time? Because not many actors can do that, and I've certainly never seen Ms. Janssen do it. She does menacing well enough, but it's very clearly menacing in a "run the other direction" sort of way, rather than a "wow, I kind of want to kneel at her feet even though I should probably be running the other direction" sort of way. Harry basically feels that way around Leah, even though he absolutely knows better, so it must be some pretty powerful appeal. I'm just not convinced that Famke Janssen has that, based on what I've seen of her. Christina Hendricks, on the other hand, I would have some trouble with wanting to run away from, even when she's clearly out to cause some harm. She can make a character seem innocent and seductive when she's at her most dangerous.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 27, 2012, 07:54:53 AM
Neuroheart, I don't know how one can justify an appreciation. Mr. Ghostbuster sees Famke as the perfect Lea. You don't. I don't see much more to discuss. In case you are interested, I can totally see Famke as the kind of woman you described. I still remember her in ST:TNG and I think I was in risk of becoming a lesbian (well, perhaps not so. But she was perfect. Instead, I wouldn't see Christina Hendricks as Lea. For me, she lacks the class, is too vulgar. I could see her as Madeline or Trixie Vixen, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on February 27, 2012, 08:01:05 AM
Neuroheart, I don't know how one can justify an appreciation. Mr. Ghostbuster sees Famke as the perfect Lea. You don't. I don't see much more to discuss. In case you are interested, I can totally see Famke as the kind of woman you described. I still remember her in ST:TNG and I think I was in risk of becoming a lesbian (well, perhaps not so. But she was perfect. Instead, I wouldn't see Christina Hendricks as Lea. For me, she lacks the class, is too vulgar. I could see her as Madeline or Trixie Vixen, though.
Thank you for that.

Neuroheart, I'm not sure why you had such issue with my pick of Famke Janssen. I'm not saying that, were I in charge of The Dresden Files movies, I'd give her the role of Leanansidhe without a second thought. In fact, she would have to audition for it with Christina Hendricks (assuming both of them were interested), who I think would be another excellent choice.

And I find it interesting that you had absolutely nothing to say about my other choices.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 27, 2012, 08:02:37 AM
I see the girl from the new hunger games as a possible molly
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 27, 2012, 10:05:49 AM
Frankly whoever one might pick for one or any of the Fae Queens - I suspect to do them right they
would have to be CGI enhanced and in that case I wouldn't mind.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 27, 2012, 05:11:00 PM
I'm not sure why you had such issue with my pick of Famke Janssen.
I already stated it's because I've never seen her in a role where she was subtly dangerous. I asked where she has been so, which is a fairly straightforward question. I'm not sure why this is being treated as though I'm attacking someone. Ms. Janssen has her talents, as I've already acknowledged, I just don't believe those talents include being alluring and menacing simultaneously, so I question her ability to play such a character. The rather emphatic "This HAS to be Famke Janssen!" just led me to ask why is all. Why does it have to be her? What's she done that's so special?

Quote
And I find it interesting that you had absolutely nothing to say about my other choices.
Oh? I'm not sure what's interesting about that, but if you want an opinion:
I don't think Ewan McGregor would be the best choice for Michael. He might be able to do much of the character with no problem, but I've always thought the most important thing for Michael is being righteous without being annoying. Under most circumstances, Harry would find an abundance of righteousness to be very grating, and even finds it a little grating with Michael, but they're still good friends. I haven't seen the film you mentioned, so there could be a dimension there I haven't seen, but I've mostly seen Mr. McGregor be either silly or pompous, and a pompous Michael would be a Michael that Harry would find unbearable company. This is again a case where I think a very special sort of acting would be required, and my pick it Alan Tudyk because he can be very serious without being too heavy about it, he can be very likable, and he can also be kind of scary and dangerous with a weapon in his hand.
Bradley Cooper could potentially be Kincaid, I suppose. I know he's a fairly large man. My main issue is he has those big eyes that make him look rather sweet and gentle to me, but he has the build for it. My first choice in overall looks and ability to kick ass and take names is Chris Hemsworth.
Jason Lee as Bob? Maybe the less mature side of Bob, but it's hard to imagine him dropping a whole bunch of wisdom and good advice. The voice I generally imagine is Eddie Izzard, who can do serious acting as well as brilliant comedic timing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 27, 2012, 05:23:12 PM
I already stated it's because I've never seen her in a role where she was subtly dangerous. I asked where she has been so, which is a fairly straightforward question. I'm not sure why this is being treated as though I'm attacking someone. Ms. Janssen has her talents, as I've already acknowledged, I just don't believe those talents include being alluring and menacing simultaneously, so I question her ability to play such a character. The rather emphatic "This HAS to be Famke Janssen!" just led me to ask why is all. Why does it have to be her? What's she done that's so special?

I think the problem is that what Mr.Ghostbuster saw in the James Bond movie and I saw in Star Trek: TNG fulfill that request for us. Not for you, obviously. That is why I said it is a matter of perception. We saw her in a way you don't. That is all. But you keep demanding more. That is which sounds like an attack to our opinions.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on February 27, 2012, 06:35:33 PM
I would love to see Milla Jovovich cast as someone.  I just can't decide who.  Any ideas?

(http://www.truegameheadz.com/blogheadz/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/re_11.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 27, 2012, 07:02:30 PM
I would love to see Milla Jovovich cast as someone.  I just can't decide who.  Any ideas?

(http://www.truegameheadz.com/blogheadz/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/re_11.jpg)

Mavra.  Totally.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 27, 2012, 07:14:42 PM
Yeah, I was gonna say that too.
The lesser Winter Queen is dangerously crazy and MJ would fit that role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 27, 2012, 07:16:28 PM
But that is Maeve.
I only see her as one of Lara's sisters, but that is too small a role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 27, 2012, 07:19:24 PM
Oops, you're right.
There are a few too many M named females and it gets a bit confusing.
No, I don't see her as Mavra.  Mavra has to emit an aura of centuries old evil and hate - MJ wouldn't work for that.  Maeve yes.  See above.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on February 27, 2012, 07:50:45 PM
I'd say Milla Jovavich would work better as Anna Valmont. The Church mouse from Death Masks. It's a small part, but it works better for the roles that Milla has been playing recently. Physical badassery versus seductive pettiness. I don't think Milla can pull off petty, cruel and seductive believeable (just my opinion, of course).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 27, 2012, 08:03:28 PM
But you keep demanding more. That is which sounds like an attack to our opinions.
I don't think it's fair to say I "keep demanding more" when all I asked was what role she played that convinced Mr. Ghostbuster of this ability in her. I never actually saw an answer to that question from him. Griffyn gave some examples of her acting "off her rocker," and I discussed that. You mentioned TNG, which is not a role of hers I'm familiar with. At the time you made this mention, it seems like you were already defensive about it, as though my questioning of a woman's ability to play a certain role was a personal attack on anyone who liked her. It's not. It's not even an attack on Famke Janssen; I never said she was a terrible actress, just that I'd never seen a very specialized ability in her.
I'm not trying to start a fight or something here, I'm just having a discussion. My own casting choices have been questioned here as well, and I haven't taken it as a personal attack. For example, you just called one of my favorite actresses "vulgar," but I'm not going to take umbrage at that. I disagree, of course, and wonder what exactly you're basing it on, but that's just something for further discussion. I do apologize if such discussion offends you, but I don't think it should.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on February 27, 2012, 08:12:08 PM
This thread moves pretty fast, doesn't it?

Of course, now I'm drifting back to Spencer Locke as Molly.  She's how I've always pictured her.

Punk Molly                              Apprentice Molly                      Mature Molly
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Spencer_Locke-Molly_Carpenter.jpg)
I don't think she looks quite edgy enough as "punk Molly." Especially since Molly seems to be really losing it in the recent book. Can this girl do kind of edgy/crazy/desperate? (The image you posted earlier of Taylor Momsen looked very much edgy enough.)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/Summer.jpg)
Summer Glau looks amazing with white hair! Where did you find that?

I wouldn't see Christina Hendricks as Lea. For me, she lacks the class, is too vulgar.
"Vulgar"? But she's so lovely  :-\

I would love to see Milla Jovovich cast as someone.  I just can't decide who.  Any ideas?
What about Lara?
(http://www.horroryearbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/milla-jovovich-nude-maxim-03.jpg)
(edited because first photo posted came up broken)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 27, 2012, 08:23:49 PM
I don't think it's fair to say I "keep demanding more" when all I asked was what role she played that convinced Mr. Ghostbuster of this ability in her. I never actually saw an answer to that question from him. Griffyn gave some examples of her acting "off her rocker," and I discussed that. You mentioned TNG, which is not a role of hers I'm familiar with. At the time you made this mention, it seems like you were already defensive about it, as though my questioning of a woman's ability to play a certain role was a personal attack on anyone who liked her. It's not. It's not even an attack on Famke Janssen; I never said she was a terrible actress, just that I'd never seen a very specialized ability in her.
I'm not trying to start a fight or something here, I'm just having a discussion. My own casting choices have been questioned here as well, and I haven't taken it as a personal attack. For example, you just called one of my favorite actresses "vulgar," but I'm not going to take umbrage at that. I disagree, of course, and wonder what exactly you're basing it on, but that's just something for further discussion. I do apologize if such discussion offends you, but I don't think it should.

I was not deffensive about the actress. I felt you attacked the opinions of other posters just because you didn't share it. Let's go to the example. I despise Hendricks since her role in Firefly. I found her no classy, vulgar. So she would make a great Madeline or Trixie in my opinion as she has awesome looks. You, obviously, don't think the same, and you see her as a good representation of a glorious Fae. Excellent. Your opinion, my opinion. I am not demanding you anything, because it's your opinion. You don't need to justify what you like or what you find good or classy or sexy or whatever.
I would have liked the same with Famke.. Your opinion, the opinion of other. Case closed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 27, 2012, 08:27:29 PM
Summer Glau looks amazing with white hair! Where did you find that?
I altered the color myself.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on February 27, 2012, 08:29:18 PM
Dem fine job sah, dem fine.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 27, 2012, 08:32:25 PM
Neuroheart does amazing jobs with the actors/actresses looks. I have seen them several times.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 27, 2012, 09:35:26 PM
Ta very much :)  I really enjoy tinkering in photoshop.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 27, 2012, 09:44:16 PM
Was I the only one watching Gwenyth Paltrow at the Oscars last night and thinking she could be a formidable Winter Fae?

Edit:  After due consideration, I think I'd rather have her as Elaine.  She just seems too cheerful to be Winter, and I wouldn't want a bit part in Summer. 

(http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2012/02/paltrow-oscars/gwyneth-paltrow-oscars-2012-red-carpet-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MetalFae on February 28, 2012, 01:08:12 AM
^ I think Gweneth could actually work out well. I mean she did a great job as Galadriel in The LotR and was pretty scary looking/powerful at one point in the movie.. Granted it was all CG... She wouldn't be my first choice but I think she could pull it off really well :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/FotR%20Lorien/GaladrielsGlade98.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 28, 2012, 01:10:08 AM
^ I think Gweneth could actually work out well. I mean she did a great job as Galadriel in The LotR and was pretty scary looking/powerful at one point in the movie.. Granted it was all CG... She wouldn't be my first choice but I think she could pull it off really well :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/FotR%20Lorien/GaladrielsGlade98.jpg)

That was Cate Blanchett.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MetalFae on February 28, 2012, 01:19:55 AM
Oh. See how much I know.  ::) :-[
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 29, 2012, 03:38:53 AM
I thought it was a man oops
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 29, 2012, 03:44:31 AM
You are kidding, right?

I insist, we need a role for extra tall Clooney's gf.http://www.imdb.com/oscars/galleries/rto2012-oscar2012-redcarpet-rm2961356288 (http://www.imdb.com/oscars/galleries/rto2012-oscar2012-redcarpet-rm2961356288)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 29, 2012, 03:45:27 AM
You are kidding, right?

I insist, we need a role for extra tall Clooney's gf.http://www.imdb.com/oscars/galleries/rto2012-oscar2012-redcarpet-rm2961356288 (http://www.imdb.com/oscars/galleries/rto2012-oscar2012-redcarpet-rm2961356288)

Probably
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 29, 2012, 04:00:47 AM
I insist, we need a role for extra tall Clooney's gf.http://www.imdb.com/oscars/galleries/rto2012-oscar2012-redcarpet-rm2961356288 (http://www.imdb.com/oscars/galleries/rto2012-oscar2012-redcarpet-rm2961356288)
Okay, holy cow but that image just made my mind yell, "Marcone and Gard!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 29, 2012, 04:03:30 AM
GARD! Of course! That is what I had deep in my mind. And yes, I have considered Clooney for Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on February 29, 2012, 03:46:20 PM
What about Lara?
(http://www.horroryearbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/milla-jovovich-nude-maxim-03.jpg)
(edited because first photo posted came up broken)

YES!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Firehazard21 on February 29, 2012, 06:41:58 PM
YES!
I like it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 29, 2012, 06:55:37 PM
What about Lara?
(http://www.horroryearbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/milla-jovovich-nude-maxim-03.jpg)
YES!
I've thought this before, as well  :)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Lara.jpg)
(Lara does more for me just sitting in a chair than [Madeline] did with [her] whole entrance)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on February 29, 2012, 07:27:48 PM
I guess I just have different tastes. I don't find Milla Jovavich to be as stunning as I'd think Lara would be.  I liked your other thought on Lara as Jaime Murray.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/that-guy/hot-list-jaime-murray-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 29, 2012, 08:04:18 PM
Ms. Murray is rather ridiculously hot.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 29, 2012, 08:15:40 PM
I don't see Milla Jovovich as Lara. Another whampire yes. Murray may be.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jolene on February 29, 2012, 09:30:18 PM
Joe Manganiello for Harry.  He's already freakishly tall.  He would have to be made less obviously hunky.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on February 29, 2012, 09:58:38 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/that-guy/hot-list-jaime-murray-2.jpg)
Is that the woman who was on Dexter for a little while? She certainly acted the part of temptress pretty well, so I could see that, too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on February 29, 2012, 11:21:45 PM
Is that the woman who was on Dexter for a little while?
Yeah, she played the gorgeous, seductive, manipulative, and quietly crazy Lila back in season two.

Not to mention, she looks rather good in white ;)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Lara3.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 06, 2012, 05:20:21 PM
I swear, I've lost my mind. Sherlock has taken it.

...I now want to see Benedict Cumberbatch as Harry Dresden.

can someone just shoot me please

Lara Pulver for Lea!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mrjoe94 on March 07, 2012, 01:26:40 AM
Hello everyone! This is my first post here and i'm only on Summer Knight. For my homework I had to do a very small adaptive screenplay of a scene from a book. I picked the scene from Storm Front, when we're introduced to Morgan. Throughout I kept picturing him as Mark Calaway Also known as the Undertaker without a hat and brown hair:

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wwe-the-undertaker.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 07, 2012, 01:49:26 AM
Hello everyone! This is my first post here and i'm only on Summer Knight. For my homework I had to do a very small adaptive screenplay of a scene from a book. I picked the scene from Storm Front, when we're introduced to Morgan. Throughout I kept picturing him as Mark Calaway Also known as the Undertaker without a hat and brown hair:

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wwe-the-undertaker.jpg)

Welcome to the boards!

Pretty good choice.  Mark Calaway is listed at 6'10".  I believe Morgan is described as equal to Harry' height, who I think is generally considered around 6'7"+. But Morgan is supposed to be more muscled than Dresden, and Calaway would definitely fit that bill.  Combined with age and demeanor, I could see him pulling it off.  He'd have to pull off a British accent, though.  I think Morgan is a Brit.

I've actually considered WWE stars for casting before.  John Cena is my favorite for Hendricks.  And there are a lot of bruisers in the series that could be wrestlers.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on March 07, 2012, 05:07:58 AM
...I now want to see Benedict Cumberbatch as Harry Dresden.
As Harry? Okay, no, I can't see that one. I think he is amazing in every way, but he is not Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 07, 2012, 09:54:10 AM
As Harry? Okay, no, I can't see that one. I think he is amazing in every way, but he is not Harry.

...I know, I know. It was the fangirl in me, screaming. Just... screaming.

...BUT. I can See Lara Pulver as someone from White Court. Ooooh, maybe Lara Raith.
I still want Benedict Cumberbatch in it because I'm a huge fan. >> Like David Tennant. I think David can pull off Harry, honestly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Bearracuda on March 07, 2012, 11:59:38 AM
Alright, here's one you can't unsee.

You guys ready for this? 

At first you'll probably want to shoot me for it but WAIT!

Take a moment and THINK.  Just give it a few moments to sink in.

Pop open one of the books and read any part with this character and imagine it in this actor's voice.  It works better than you might think.

You ready?

Sean Connery as Morgan.

I know!  I know!  First thought:  "WTF?"  But if you reel it back in for a second, Morgan's old.  Morgan's seriously getting on in years, even in storm front.  On top of that, he's a tall western european who runs around with (what I imagine to be) a bastard sword.  Give Sean the ponytail.  Import Morgan's personality onto him.  Read any part with Morgan and put it into Sean's voice.  If you still don't like it, then you can call me crazy.

Alright, and while we're at it.  I have to say, I'm curious.  Why is Ryan Reynolds so far behind?  I mean, he's not a perfect Dresden, but he's behind Hugh Jackman.  The only DF part I can even remotely imagine Hugh Jackman playing is Kincaid.  And I don't even see him being a good fit for that.  Not that he's not a great actor, but... well... he's just got a very niche personality.  You have to match the role to Hugh Jackman, not match Hugh Jackman to the role.  He hasn't got flexibility, like say... Johnny Depp.  Johnny Depp can play a little of everything, with the right direction.  I mean, this is guy who went from Jack Sparrow to Willy Wonka, back to Jack Sparrow and then on to being the mad hatter in Alice in Wonderland.  Anyway, I'm getting off track.

For those of you who look at Ryan Reynolds on that list and think "... Why?"  This is why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqyv2m2YBm0
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 07, 2012, 07:49:43 PM
Can't give Kincaid to Hugh Jackman, it's all ready been given to Christian Kane

(http://seat42f.com/images/stories/tvshows/Leverage/Season3/Leverage-Christian-Kane.jpg)

(http://www.nndb.com/people/415/000132019/christian-kane-1-sized.jpg) (http://img.karaoke-lyrics.net/img/artists/30938/christian-kane-250469.jpg)

(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10000000/Christian-Kane-walls-by-me-christian-kane-10050720-1024-768.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on March 07, 2012, 08:57:23 PM
Like David Tennant. I think David can pull off Harry, honestly.
Agreed!

Quote
I still want Benedict Cumberbatch in it because I'm a huge fan.
Well, I submitted him for Thomas...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 07, 2012, 09:00:00 PM
Well, I submitted him for Thomas...
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Thomas3.jpg)

(pale eyes, pale skin, dark hair... and then there's his voice.)

Like David Tennant. I think David can pull off Harry, honestly.
I've said it before, but this is my new official image when I think of Harry:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/David_Tennant.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on March 07, 2012, 09:16:19 PM
...Maybe we should have a thread for "BBC does Dresden Files" or something.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on March 07, 2012, 09:17:14 PM
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Thomas3.jpg)

(pale eyes, pale skin, dark hair... and then there's his voice.)
I've said it before, but this is my new official image when I think of Harry:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/David_Tennant.jpg)

I want this on my wall... *swoons*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 07, 2012, 11:58:38 PM
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Thomas3.jpg)

(pale eyes, pale skin, dark hair... and then there's his voice.)
I've said it before, but this is my new official image when I think of Harry:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/David_Tennant.jpg)

My only concern with David Tennant is that he's 6'1", max.  Which is around 6" too short for Harry.  I think, at minimum, the actor chosen should be 6'3" or taller.  Hollywood tends to lie about heights as well, so my only concern would be that his 6'1" is really 5'11" or something.  Zachary Levi is 6'4", which is close enough for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 08, 2012, 04:28:46 AM
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Thomas3.jpg)

(pale eyes, pale skin, dark hair... and then there's his voice.)
I've said it before, but this is my new official image when I think of Harry:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/randomprojects/David_Tennant.jpg)

...when I saw this, I screamed and screamed in delightful fangirliness. I think you broke me.

Now Benedict Cumberbatch and Matt Bomer are fighting for Thomas in my head and ...augh I can't decide.

I think I want Moffat and Gatiss to try doing Dresden Files on BBC now. >>

My only concern with David Tennant is that he's 6'1", max.  Which is around 6" too short for Harry.  I think, at minimum, the actor chosen should be 6'3" or taller.  Hollywood tends to lie about heights as well, so my only concern would be that his 6'1" is really 5'11" or something.  Zachary Levi is 6'4", which is close enough for me.

True enough, but sometimes Hollywood can do magic. Also, I'd rather someone who can pull Harry off than someone tall but completely muck him up.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 08, 2012, 06:45:19 AM
...when I saw this, I screamed and screamed in delightful fangirliness. I think you broke me.
Sweet  ;D

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I think I want Moffat and Gatiss to try doing Dresden Files on BBC now.
OMG, yes.




My only concern with David Tennant is that he's 6'1", max.  Which is around 6" too short for Harry.  I think, at minimum, the actor chosen should be 6'3" or taller.  Hollywood tends to lie about heights as well, so my only concern would be that his 6'1" is really 5'11" or something.  Zachary Levi is 6'4", which is close enough for me.
Yeah, height is a factor, but it's not like Tennant is short. I mean, I've seen Marsters be mentioned several times as a possible Harry, and he's about 5'9", and most actors mentioned are in the 6'1"-6'2" range. Tennant has the advantage of being very lanky and able to look taller than he is on camera. Add a few camera tricks and some simple shoe lisfts and you'd probably be set. (Also, he's not technically in Hollywood, so their lies about height don't really apply, amiright?)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on March 08, 2012, 06:48:59 AM
Now Benedict Cumberbatch and Matt Bomer are fighting for Thomas in my head and ...augh I can't decide.
Go listen to this reading of "Ode to a Nightengale" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64eonMsecAA) and get back to me on that. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 08, 2012, 07:42:12 AM
Go listen to this reading of "Ode to a Nightengale" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64eonMsecAA) and get back to me on that. ;)

Damn. That just made me want Ben to go and read Dresden Files. Stop that.
and... well... augh. No, it didn't help, I keep remembering Matt Bomer's pretty face and... well... augh.

OMG, yes.

Imagine Jim's writing in those two people's hands.

People are going to explode.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 08, 2012, 08:20:38 AM
Damn. That just made me want Ben to go and read Dresden Files. Stop that.
Agreed. At one point I was very upset by the idea of anyone but Marsters reading the audiobooks, but... I'd make an exception.

Quote
and... well... augh. No, it didn't help, I keep remembering Matt Bomer's pretty face and... well... augh.
I've wondered before if I'm defective or something, but I am not attracted to Matt Bomer at all. I understand the appeal. I mean, he's clearly an extremely good looking guy, but he just does nothing for me. Benedict Cumerbatch, though? I swoon and swoon some more. I'll watch things I have no real interest in, just to stare at him.

Quote
Imagine Jim's writing in those two people's hands.
I am, and my imaginings are all made of win and awesome!
You know, the more I think of it, the more I think the BBC might be a good way to go with a Dresden show. They seem to care more about source material and less about making as much as they can, as fast as they can, and then only giving a show two weeks to prove whether it can be a hit or not.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on March 08, 2012, 08:23:14 AM
So how can we get the BBC to pick up a show set in America? Might be tricky for them to shoot in Chicago...  :-\


I've wondered before if I'm defective or something, but I am not attracted to Matt Bomer at all. I understand the appeal. I mean, he's clearly an extremely good looking guy, but he just does nothing for me.
Maybe you have really good gay-dar.

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Benedict Cumerbatch, though? I swoon and swoon some more.
Me too, sister, me too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 08, 2012, 10:00:09 AM
So how can we get the BBC to pick up a show set in America? Might be tricky for them to shoot in Chicago...  :-\

Maybe you have really good gay-dar.
Me too, sister, me too.

It's pretty much White Collar's fault for me.

And... hm. That is a good question.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on March 08, 2012, 10:12:31 AM
I think I want Moffat and Gatiss to try doing Dresden Files on BBC now. >>

I just lost the ability to breathe.
I think I totally geeked out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on March 08, 2012, 02:01:45 PM
Matt Bomer is Thomas for me, no argument  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on March 08, 2012, 02:13:56 PM
Matt Bomer is Thomas for me, no argument  :)

I can see that.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 08, 2012, 05:51:45 PM
BBC Dresden Files for the win! (They can shoot in America if they want to, they've done it for Doctor Who.)

Maybe you have really good gay-dar.
Heh, maybe, but probably not. There are other famously good looking actors who haven't really turned my crank but also haven't come out... though now that makes me wonder a little bit. Hm. Either way, he does nothing for me, so he'll never be on my mind for Thomas.


I have become convinced that Cumerbatch would be ideal for Thomas, if only because his skin almost glows in the right light and his very voice melts my bones. He also has an amazing acting range, which would be important. Jim has said he thinks "Spike is the epitome of the pretty boy vampire and ... I wrote [Thomas] like Spike" and I would of course still be fine with James Marsters as Thomas... or maybe Aiden Turner, who I think of as another quintessential gorgeous vampire... But I think I would be disappointed by anyone else.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on March 08, 2012, 06:13:02 PM
I think the TV show had the perfect Morgan. They just cast him as somebody else. Been way too long since I watched the show to remember the details, but I think he was a warden type character too, or one of Ancient Mei's guards. Something like that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 08, 2012, 09:09:59 PM
BBC Dresden Files for the win! (They can shoot in America if they want to, they've done it for Doctor Who.)
Heh, maybe, but probably not. There are other famously good looking actors who haven't really turned my crank but also haven't come out... though now that makes me wonder a little bit. Hm. Either way, he does nothing for me, so he'll never be on my mind for Thomas.


I have become convinced that Cumerbatch would be ideal for Thomas, if only because his skin almost glows in the right light and his very voice melts my bones. He also has an amazing acting range, which would be important. Jim has said he thinks "Spike is the epitome of the pretty boy vampire and ... I wrote [Thomas] like Spike" and I would of course still be fine with James Marsters as Thomas... or maybe Aiden Turner, who I think of as another quintessential gorgeous vampire... But I think I would be disappointed by anyone else.

Stop Trying to convince me. It's working.

I wrote a crossover-ish fic of sherlock and john being awesome vanilla mortals.

Ben *would* make for a really good incubus vampire. Can Lara Pulver, Irene Adler, pull off Lara Raith?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 08, 2012, 09:22:31 PM
Zachary Levi
Height:  6' 3.25"
Build:  Lanky

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Zachary_Levi-Casual_Dresden.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 08, 2012, 09:24:12 PM
Can Lara Pulver, Irene Adler, pull off Lara Raith?
She probably could, yes. She was brilliant as "The Woman." (Jaime Murray is also English, and I'd like to see her as Lara (she's got the black hair for it) or one of the Fae)

...Maybe we should have a thread for "BBC does Dresden Files" or something.
You know, maybe we should.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 08, 2012, 09:41:56 PM
Zachary Levi
Height:  6' 3.25"
Build:  Lanky

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Zachary_Levi-Casual_Dresden.jpg)

If not David Tennant, I vote Zach. I LOVE Zach, and he can do snark.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 08, 2012, 09:52:00 PM
I find it difficult to envision Zachary Levi as a badass. Harry can be terrifying as well as being funny. Has Levi ever been terrifying? I never did keep up with Chuck, so maybe he has been, but he seemed to be mostly rather bumbling and overwhelmed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 08, 2012, 10:07:30 PM
I find it difficult to envision Zachary Levi as a badass. Harry can be terrifying as well as being funny. Has Levi ever been terrifying? I never did keep up with Chuck, so maybe he has been, but he seemed to be mostly rather bumbling and overwhelmed.

I think he can pull it off.

She probably could, yes. She was brilliant as "The Woman." (Jaime Murray is also English, and I'd like to see her as Lara (she's got the black hair for it) or one of the Fae)
You know, maybe we should.

I support this. Both of these.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on March 08, 2012, 10:08:41 PM
Can Lara Pulver, Irene Adler, pull off Lara Raith?

What was it that Harry said about Lara doing more for him just sitting in a chair than Madeline could ever hope to do?

spoilered for (tasteful) nudity
(click to show/hide)

I'm a straight woman and I still think that's pretty sexy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 08, 2012, 10:14:25 PM
(click to show/hide)

I'm a straight woman and I still think that's pretty sexy.
...I'm a not-entirely-straight woman, and that is smoking hot.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 08, 2012, 10:17:58 PM
What was it that Harry said about Lara doing more for him just sitting in a chair than Madeline could ever hope to do?

spoilered for (tasteful) nudity
(click to show/hide)

I'm a straight woman and I still think that's pretty sexy.

I once said that Irene Adler is the only woman I'd ever go bi for. hot and sexy, that picture is.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 08, 2012, 10:18:51 PM
I find it difficult to envision Zachary Levi as a badass. Harry can be terrifying as well as being funny. Has Levi ever been terrifying? I never did keep up with Chuck, so maybe he has been, but he seemed to be mostly rather bumbling and overwhelmed.

I don't know, the character Chuck never really had an opportunity to be bad ass.  The character itself was only supposed to be a geeky, intelligent nerd, uncomfortable with most social and combat settings.  As the character progressed, we saw a more physically active Chuck, but even when he was supposed to be a bad ass super spy, he was still just Chuck Bartowski pretending to be a spy.  It was Levi staying in character as another character, and it worked really well.  Whether Levi could, as an actor unrestricted by the script, play a bad ass, I don't know.  I haven't seen him in anything but Chuck.

But from what I've seen of his acting skills on chuck, I wouldn't put it past him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on March 08, 2012, 10:53:11 PM
I don't know, the character Chuck never really had an opportunity to be bad ass.  The character itself was only supposed to be a geeky, intelligent nerd, uncomfortable with most social and combat settings.  As the character progressed, we saw a more physically active Chuck, but even when he was supposed to be a bad ass super spy, he was still just Chuck Bartowski pretending to be a spy.  It was Levi staying in character as another character, and it worked really well.  Whether Levi could, as an actor unrestricted by the script, play a bad ass, I don't know.  I haven't seen him in anything but Chuck.

But from what I've seen of his acting skills on chuck, I wouldn't put it past him.

I think he can pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 08, 2012, 11:48:42 PM
Perhaps. Actors can be really good in some roles without necessarily being able to do  absolutely anything they want, performance-wise. Someone can be really good at playing a wise mentor type, say, but be hopeless at playing the villain. If I haven't seen someone deliver a performance that assures me they can play that sort of character, I don't bank on them. (of course, if I were actually a casting director, I could ask for auditions and then there would be no questions, but as it stands I'm forced to draw on what I've actually seen people do.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 08, 2012, 11:57:46 PM
Perhaps. Actors can be really good in some roles without necessarily being able to do  absolutely anything they want, performance-wise. Someone can be really good at playing a wise mentor type, say, but be hopeless at playing the villain. If I haven't seen someone deliver a performance that assures me they can play that sort of character, I don't bank on them. (of course, if I were actually a casting director, I could ask for auditions and then there would be no questions, but as it stands I'm forced to draw on what I've actually seen people do.

True, and I'm not saying anyone I recommend would get a role based on looks alone.  But he looks like what I imagine Harry to be.  Although, my first choice overall would still be a slimmed down, less muscled Eric Balfour.  He's in the right height realm (6' 2"+), he's got the dark hair and complexion, and something about his chin and nose just yell bad ass wizard to me.  But if you've seen him act in Haven, he can also pull off the embarassed, aw-shucks moments that I think Harry would require.

(http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/Eric-Balfour%20-%209%20-%20Conviction.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on March 20, 2012, 07:50:29 PM
I believe I am in the minority here but I just can't picture David Tennant as Harry.  In my mind, Harry is more sturdy/muscular than Tennant appears to be. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on March 20, 2012, 07:54:50 PM
I believe I am in the minority here but I just can't picture David Tennant as Harry.  In my mind, Harry is more sturdy/muscular than Tennant appears to be.

I see him as thin and reedy with tense runners muscle. Tennant could pull that off and he's relatively tall too (6'1").  Still, I would rather get a Harry that can pull off the attitude than one who matches physically. I'm sure that Tennant could pull off the attitude, but I'd rather see him for someone else.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on March 20, 2012, 07:59:52 PM
I haven't seen him in anything other than as Who.  I think I would have a hard time seeing him as anything other than the Doctor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on March 20, 2012, 08:00:29 PM
Barty Crouch Jr.!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on March 20, 2012, 08:06:25 PM
You mean you can't see him as Nicodemus?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on March 20, 2012, 08:11:53 PM
I can't see him as Harry.  I can see Matthew Fox as Harry though (he is supposed to be 6'2").

(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2005/gallery/losthunks/mfox.jpg)

I just realized he is 45.  Rats.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on March 20, 2012, 09:03:24 PM
I can't see him as Harry.  I can see Matthew Fox as Harry though (he is supposed to be 6'2").

(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2005/gallery/losthunks/mfox.jpg)

I just realized he is 45.  Rats.

Um... he's anything but lanky though. I don't think he can pull off the personality.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 21, 2012, 01:55:23 AM
In my mind, Harry is more sturdy/muscular than Tennant appears to be.
He isn't described as particularly muscular. If I recall, he's often described as not having a lot of mass or being "sturdy," but being tall enough that he can still have a fighting chance against more muscular opponents. This always led me to believe he was a wiry string bean type.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 21, 2012, 01:59:32 AM
Besides Tennant is british. I would rather not have a British person playing a hardcore American Hero.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 21, 2012, 02:12:27 AM
Besides Tennant is british.
Don't let him hear you say that. Most Scotsmen hate being called British.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 21, 2012, 02:14:06 AM
British/Scotish, the same thing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 21, 2012, 02:36:13 AM
Besides Tennant is british. I would rather not have a British person playing a hardcore American Hero.

What about Christian Bale as Batman?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on March 21, 2012, 02:37:44 AM
AWFUL
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 21, 2012, 02:39:39 AM
What about Christian Bale as Batman?

That is the one thing i agree with Dina about those movies.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 21, 2012, 02:41:46 AM
AWFUL
That is the one thing i agree with Dina about those movies.

In my best Princes Leia voice... "WHAT?!"



Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 21, 2012, 02:45:11 AM
Do I have to explain that some skinny kid can't possibly pull of Batman. He doesn't seem all that intelligent either. The villains carry both movies.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on March 21, 2012, 02:59:05 AM
I just hate Bale as Batman (I dislike the Nolan's Batman movies in general, but Bale is one of the worse things about them)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 21, 2012, 03:29:23 AM
0.o I adore Nolan's Batman movies, and I think Bale did very well with the dual nature of the character.

British/Scotish, the same thing.
Not if you ask a Scotsman, I'm telling you. Call a short-tempered Scottish person British, and the best case scenario is you get punched in the neck.
Casting shouldn't be restricted by nationality, anyway. I can name plenty of fine actors we would probably all miss if such a thing became standard practice. (Just as an example, even though I don't really like him for Harry per se, Hugh Jackman is Australian.)


Do I have to explain that some skinny kid can't possibly pull of Batman.
"Skinny kid"?!?
(http://www.wildaboutmovies.com/images_4/ChristianBale.jpg) (http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/250/draft_lens11637511module108651981photo_1278088817christian-bale-batman-wor)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 21, 2012, 03:32:43 AM
I have no problem with an Australian or a Canadian actor doing it. Just not a British one.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on March 21, 2012, 07:45:17 PM
Um... he's anything but lanky though. I don't think he can pull off the personality.

I know, but he's so cute!

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sydna on March 21, 2012, 11:40:18 PM
That is totally stupid. I could see if they called a Scotsman an Englishman. But Britain is a term which  encompasses all of the British Isles. Anyone Scotsman who says he isn't British is a total idiot.

0.o I adore Nolan's Batman movies, and I think Bale did very well with the dual nature of the character.
Not if you ask a Scotsman, I'm telling you. Call a short-tempered Scottish person British, and the best case scenario is you get punched in the neck.
Casting shouldn't be restricted by nationality, anyway. I can name plenty of fine actors we would probably all miss if such a thing became standard practice. (Just as an example, even though I don't really like him for Harry per se, Hugh Jackman is Australian.)

"Skinny kid"?!?
(http://www.wildaboutmovies.com/images_4/ChristianBale.jpg) (http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/250/draft_lens11637511module108651981photo_1278088817christian-bale-batman-wor)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MetalFae on March 21, 2012, 11:46:42 PM

(http://www.wildaboutmovies.com/images_4/ChristianBale.jpg) (http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/250/draft_lens11637511module108651981photo_1278088817christian-bale-batman-wor)

*Drools all over the thread*  YUM.  ;D lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on March 21, 2012, 11:49:51 PM
That is totally stupid. I could see if they called a Scotsman an Englishman. But Britain is a term which  encompasses all of the British Isles. Anyone Scotsman who says he isn't British is a total idiot.

I would very much avoid going down this road. I'm no true Scotsman (:))) but this could quickly anger anyone who is.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 22, 2012, 05:19:16 AM
DragonEyes is correct. There is a connotation of "British" meaning "English," plus the British Isles wouldn't be the British Isles if England hadn't taken them over. The whole situation definitely angers people from Scotland. (Yes, they really are still annoyed about being under English rule; it's a sore point for the whole culture, and they commonly feel as though they are not treated fairly or given adequate representation.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on March 22, 2012, 05:22:14 AM
Sorry but then, how do you refer to all people from Great Britain. I always said "British" trying to be fair and I seldom use Englishman. I thougth Welshmen and Scottish saw themselves as British.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 22, 2012, 05:22:51 AM
I just say jerks across the pond.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 22, 2012, 06:35:52 AM
I just say jerks across the pond.  ;)

QFT!  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 22, 2012, 06:38:32 AM
QFT!  ;D

But it's not  6 feet yet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: darth_borehd on March 22, 2012, 04:42:37 PM
I liked the cast they had for the Dresden Files TV series.  Just drop the tv series continuity and start over with a theatrical version of Storm Front and switch the actresses who played Susan and Karyn back to their originally intended roles.  (They were switched in the series due to there being a a real Karen Murphy on the Chicago PD.)

I think Paul Blackthorne did a good job and when I read the books, I picture Harry looking just like him. 

Add Orlando Bloom as Thomas.  :)




Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 22, 2012, 04:44:33 PM
Sorry but then, how do you refer to all people from Great Britain. I always said "British" trying to be fair and I seldom use Englishman. I thougth Welshmen and Scottish saw themselves as British.
I don't know any Welshmen, so I can't say from personal experience. If you're talking about all people from Great Britain, it is indeed easiest to say "British people." If, however, you're talking about one specific person or group of people from Scotland, I'd recommend calling them Scots. My Scottish friends gave me all kinds of hell until I started calling them Scotsmen. (They never punched me or anything, but they were my friends; they'd probably at least have screamed and threatened me if they didn't like me.)
Now, granted, I've never personally met Mr. Tennant, but I've seen a few subtle indications that he holds that Scottish attitude, despite residing in London. (In one interview, for example, he came very close to saying something about Margaret Thatcher, but he pulled himself back.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on March 22, 2012, 11:53:59 PM
Not going TT but it isn't just the Scots who say nasty things about Mrs Thatcher.

Anybody who things they are tough enough tell a Scotsman he is English in Glasgow on a Saturday night.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on March 23, 2012, 01:12:36 AM
Well, English is another thing, of course.
Also, I will only say that I am from Argentina, remember?  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on March 23, 2012, 04:58:20 AM
Well, English is another thing, of course.
Also, I will only say that I am from Argentina, remember?  :P
As if I could ever forget
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: PilgrimDan on March 24, 2012, 08:06:04 PM
I liked Paul Blackthorne as Harry too. The face is right, even if the height is not. But then, heightwise, Harry is very difficult to cast. I mean, he's between 6'7" and 6'9". Not many people that tall who aren't built like football players, not lanky like Harry.

Speaking of football players, who plays Cujo Hendricks?  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 24, 2012, 08:22:47 PM
Speaking of football players, who plays Cujo Hendricks?  :D
My pick is Andrew Bryniarski.

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Hendricks.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on March 25, 2012, 12:33:58 AM
I liked Paul Blackthorne as Harry too. The face is right, even if the height is not. But then, heightwise, Harry is very difficult to cast. I mean, he's between 6'7" and 6'9". Not many people that tall who aren't built like football players, not lanky like Harry.

Speaking of football players, who plays Cujo Hendricks?  :D

He is a very tall man though, so I still think PB is the best option.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on March 25, 2012, 07:51:46 PM
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/PRbackup/DresdenCharacters/Hendricks.jpg)
Wow, that's almost exactly what I see in my head when I think of Hendricks. If his facial hair was less perfectly groomed and more perma-stubble, that'd be perfect!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 27, 2012, 05:00:11 AM
So if not Matt Bomer, Kyle Schmid for Thomas?

(http://kyle-schmid.net/Biography/Kylepremiere.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 27, 2012, 05:37:34 AM
Kyle Schmid for Thomas?

(http://kyle-schmid.net/Biography/Kylepremiere.jpg)
Mmmmmm, pretty!  (I'd need to see his acting before I confirmed, but... yeah, pretty.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 27, 2012, 05:42:16 AM
Mmmmmm, pretty!  (I'd need to see his acting before I confirmed, but... yeah, pretty.)

He's on the North American Being Human on Syfy.  He plays a vampire (blood sucking kind).  He's got shorter hair on the show, but he's kind of pale, and something about him in tonight's episode made me think of Thomas.  And then I found the picture with the longer hair.  If it were black, it'd be exactly how I imagine Thomas' hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 27, 2012, 06:05:18 AM
He's on the North American Being Human on Syfy.
I need to catch up on that series. I was disappointed in what happened with the BBC version, so I kind of forgot about the American version.
Quote
then I found the picture with the longer hair.  If it were black, it'd be exactly how I imagine Thomas' hair.
It looks pretty dark in this image:
(http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Kyle_Schmid-2.jpg)

Yeah, he could be a good fit. I'll definitely catch up with Being Human so I can see what sort of presence he has.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: RetroGamer on March 28, 2012, 10:39:27 PM
I just read through Ghost Story again, (In one sitting - Work is THAT slow today,) and during the scenes with Uriel for some reason I couldn't get Owen Wilson out of my head for the part.  Weird.  (I also had a moment with Sam Rockwell as Uriel, but the description paints him as more 'down home,' and I had Iron Man 2 Rockwell, which didn't work.

Also: Benedict Cumberbatch as Thomas would be very interesting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KnightOrbis on March 29, 2012, 12:05:31 AM
I think tom hiddleston would be really good for Nicodemus. Just imagine him in Small Favors at the Aquarium
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 29, 2012, 12:07:44 AM
You say that like I haven't already gotten Nic picked out.  ;)
It's Jeffery Donovan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 29, 2012, 02:46:50 AM
I picture Nicodemus a little older, more like a Robert Knepper.  I like Jeffery Donovan, and I think I know what made you think of him for Nic (Burn Notice where he played El Diablo?)

(http://badonscreen.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/robert-knepper.jpg?w=640)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 29, 2012, 02:49:37 AM
I picture Nicodemus a little older, more like a Robert Knepper.  I like Jeffery Donovan, and I think I know what made you think of him for Nic (Burn Notice where he played El Diablo?)

(http://badonscreen.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/robert-knepper.jpg?w=640)

That is exactly what made me think of it Griff. I always thought of him as 30-40's
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 29, 2012, 02:53:44 AM
That is exactly what made me think of it Griff. I always thought of him as 30-40's

My problem with Donovan as Nic is that his posture is so rigid.  I've never seen him lounge.  And I picture Nic as more of a casual power as opposed to a physical power.  I don't seem him standing at attention, like Donovan does on BN.  But I've never seen him in anything else, and maybe that's just a character trait he portrays really well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 29, 2012, 02:57:45 AM
Maybe, I do like your choice though.
I don't see him as too old, but as still virile.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on March 29, 2012, 03:58:54 AM
Also: Benedict Cumberbatch as Thomas would be very interesting.
;D


Catching up on Being Human, and I do like Kyle Schmid. He's got the look and the potential for the presence. Benedict Cumberbatch has a voice like no other, though.

Also, on Being Human, this Dusan Dukic, playing the Reaper? He's amazing. Not sure yet who I would cast him as but... You know, he'd have the potential to play Harry, or Thomas, or Uriel, and probably any number of other roles. He's got these great, angular features and a lot of power in his presence. I'll need to see if he's done anything else.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 29, 2012, 06:01:48 AM
;D


Catching up on Being Human, and I do like Kyle Schmid. He's got the look and the potential for the presence. Benedict Cumberbatch has a voice like no other, though.

Also, on Being Human, this Dusan Dukic, playing the Reaper? He's amazing. Not sure yet who I would cast him as but... You know, he'd have the potential to play Harry, or Thomas, or Uriel, and probably any number of other roles. He's got these great, angular features and a lot of power in his presence. I'll need to see if he's done anything else.

Its a shame there aren't more male Fae characters.  I could see Dusan Dukic playing a haughty Sidhe.  Maybe Madrigal as a cocky Crane, but after he's outed as a Wamp, he gets sort of wussy.

Maybe cast him, with a lot of special effects, to be the Erl King.  He could make a good goblin king I suppose.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on March 29, 2012, 03:01:41 PM
(http://badonscreen.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/robert-knepper.jpg?w=640)

oy, I like him for Nic!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: PilgrimDan on March 29, 2012, 06:55:57 PM
I just found out that Paul Blackthorne is something like 6'3" - 6'4", so, yeah - he's Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: PCL on April 01, 2012, 12:35:27 PM
Out of the options posted only Zachary Quinto has the right facial features of angles and planes.  8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on April 02, 2012, 07:30:50 AM
Out of the options posted only Zachary Quinto has the right facial features of angles and planes.  8)
I'm somewhat in the Fillion camp, but I will say right off that it's not about his features at all. Though I still think his features could work for Harry, it's about other things, like his half-smirk. Every time I read something about Harry snorting and delivering a smart-ass line to a bad guy, I imagine that smirk, and the tone of voice that goes with it. Other little things to do with tone or delivery, too. Like for example, when Harry wakes up from being knocked out and says, "The kid knows what she's talking about. ... What are we talking about?" I hear Nathan Fillion, in the same tone as his "What happened about me?" line from Firefly. When Harry gets really brutal, efficient, and dangerous, I see the look on Fillion/Mal's face when he put a bullet in someone who was threatening a young woman, or slapped a torture device on the guy who had been torturing him. When there are quiet, serious moments in the books, I hear Fillion's quiet and serious voice. So no, I don't think he looks exactly as Harry is described in terms of angular features (for that look, my vision is of David Tennant) but I can still see Fillion as Dresden, because it's his voice and his expression that pops into my head so very often when reading the books.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on April 02, 2012, 01:06:58 PM
I have now moved into the Fillon camp but with him and my though for Butters Neil Patrick Harris I can easly picture as a musical, But that might be my warped mind ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on April 02, 2012, 06:32:17 PM
I'm somewhat in the Fillion camp, but I will say right off that it's not about his features at all. Though I still think his features could work for Harry, it's about other things, like his half-smirk. Every time I read something about Harry snorting and delivering a smart-ass line to a bad guy, I imagine that smirk, and the tone of voice that goes with it. Other little things to do with tone or delivery, too. Like for example, when Harry wakes up from being knocked out and says, "The kid knows what she's talking about. ... What are we talking about?" I hear Nathan Fillion, in the same tone as his "What happened about me?" line from Firefly. When Harry gets really brutal, efficient, and dangerous, I see the look on Fillion/Mal's face when he put a bullet in someone who was threatening a young woman, or slapped a torture device on the guy who had been torturing him. When there are quiet, serious moments in the books, I hear Fillion's quiet and serious voice. So no, I don't think he looks exactly as Harry is described in terms of angular features (for that look, my vision is of David Tennant) but I can still see Fillion as Dresden, because it's his voice and his expression that pops into my head so very often when reading the books.

OMG, this. This is it exactly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 02, 2012, 11:36:39 PM
I'm somewhat in the Fillion camp, but I will say right off that it's not about his features at all. Though I still think his features could work for Harry, it's about other things, like his half-smirk. Every time I read something about Harry snorting and delivering a smart-ass line to a bad guy, I imagine that smirk, and the tone of voice that goes with it. Other little things to do with tone or delivery, too. Like for example, when Harry wakes up from being knocked out and says, "The kid knows what she's talking about. ... What are we talking about?" I hear Nathan Fillion, in the same tone as his "What happened about me?" line from Firefly. When Harry gets really brutal, efficient, and dangerous, I see the look on Fillion/Mal's face when he put a bullet in someone who was threatening a young woman, or slapped a torture device on the guy who had been torturing him. When there are quiet, serious moments in the books, I hear Fillion's quiet and serious voice. So no, I don't think he looks exactly as Harry is described in terms of angular features (for that look, my vision is of David Tennant) but I can still see Fillion as Dresden, because it's his voice and his expression that pops into my head so very often when reading the books.

YES.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 04, 2012, 05:12:45 PM
NO.  Much as I love Fillion, his smartassery isn't the same brand of smartassery I envision Harry as having.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 04, 2012, 11:22:47 PM
You mean down on their luck isn't universal?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on April 05, 2012, 03:53:15 AM
Gotta agree with the warden on this one.

While I think Fillion would be a great addition to the cast somewhere (perhaps Michael?), I think we have to keep looking for an actor that is much more spot on.  Much as I like Mal Reynolds, he's really not the same character as Harry any more than he is Dr. Who or Dean Winchester or Remo Williams.

Maybe we'll know who's Harry for sure when we see it.  :-\

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 05, 2012, 03:54:15 AM
Gotta agree with the warden on this one.

When I read this I thought you mean me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 05, 2012, 03:57:06 AM
Sage Brockleback
Actor
Age: 34
Height:  6'5"
Might not be lean enough for Harry

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjE2ODk1NzgxNl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDQ5NjgwNg@@._V1._SX640_SY960_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 06, 2012, 04:23:57 AM
So I was re-reading Turn Coat... and... Um.... Benedict Cumberbatch or Colin Morgan is definitely Chandler.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on April 06, 2012, 08:34:24 AM
Sage Brockleback
Actor
Age: 34
Height:  6'5"
Might not be lean enough for Harry

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjE2ODk1NzgxNl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDQ5NjgwNg@@._V1._SX640_SY960_.jpg)
Omg I looked him up, (is this the correct guy?) and I found this
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz49ieVmAR1r4i38yo1_500.gif)  :D ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 06, 2012, 02:33:56 PM
Omg I looked him up, (is this the correct guy?) and I found this
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz49ieVmAR1r4i38yo1_500.gif)  :D ;D

Yup.  He has a supporting role on Psych.  That's what that clip is from.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on April 06, 2012, 03:04:41 PM
wow, he's certainly got the looks of harry...looks to be a very good fit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on April 06, 2012, 04:28:53 PM
*Points to bandaged head*
"dude."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 06, 2012, 04:37:43 PM
Whoa. Wait. It's Buzz McNab! I've never considered him before!

*imagines*

YES. It can work yes!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 06, 2012, 05:07:11 PM
Only issue is that he's got more guns than I picture Harry with.

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li6unmCoa01qcmneuo1_500.jpg)

(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lemxu1IrSm1qg5mmco1_500.jpg)


That's him on the far right on the set of Once Upon A Time
(http://cdn.tvovermind.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/126578_2893_pre.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on April 07, 2012, 03:53:43 AM
I could see him being a good harry, maybe.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 20, 2012, 11:57:53 PM
How have I missed this for so many years?

Neil Grayston, a.k.a. Fargo from Eukera = Waldo Butters

(http://www.afterelton.com/sites/www.afterelton.com/files/2012/04/neilgrayston-vegmite.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on April 21, 2012, 10:56:00 AM
How have I missed this for so many years?

Neil Grayston, a.k.a. Fargo from Eukera = Waldo Butters

(http://www.afterelton.com/sites/www.afterelton.com/files/2012/04/neilgrayston-vegmite.jpg)
Definitely
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on April 21, 2012, 03:19:13 PM
Hmmmm, I can see it, but I would think he may be a better Peabody.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on April 21, 2012, 03:30:49 PM
Never really thought about Peabody. Underhanded backstabber. Could be played by any middle manager.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on April 21, 2012, 03:32:17 PM
You have someone in mind then?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on April 21, 2012, 03:43:08 PM
My boss. Lost concentration. Grip by Stranglers on radio. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on April 21, 2012, 04:06:55 PM
Whoops.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on April 21, 2012, 06:24:33 PM
So I'm trying to settle this sort of thing on tumblr. Posted a huge message talking about my casting for Thomas Raith (Matt Bomer) and if Benedict cumberbatch can be thomas too (nope, the jawline's all wrong. he'll make for interesting fae or something though, someone pointed out) but that's not the question...

the question is...

does anyone know who Jim's casting for Thomas is? I mean, has he said anything on the subject? Someone told me there might be something in a Q&A somewhere but am not sure...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on April 21, 2012, 08:03:42 PM
Would BC be wrong for Madrigal then?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: laura118b on April 21, 2012, 08:43:43 PM
So I'm trying to settle this sort of thing on tumblr. Posted a huge message talking about my casting for Thomas Raith (Matt Bomer) and if Benedict cumberbatch can be thomas too (nope, the jawline's all wrong. he'll make for interesting fae or something though, someone pointed out) but that's not the question...

the question is...

does anyone know who Jim's casting for Thomas is? I mean, has he said anything on the subject? Someone told me there might be something in a Q&A somewhere but am not sure...
Matt Bomer :D  And it's in at least the KC Q&A's.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on April 21, 2012, 09:37:10 PM
I like Benedict Cumberbatch's jawline...
does anyone know who Jim's casting for Thomas is? I mean, has he said anything on the subject? Someone told me there might be something in a Q&A somewhere but am not sure...
He's also said that he based Thomas on Spike from BtVS, making James Marsters the original image. He's aged a bit, though. (Would still be one of my picks because I still think he's pretty gorgeous, but it would have been better if casting had been done about ten years ago.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 22, 2012, 04:16:22 AM
I like Benedict Cumberbatch's jawline...He's also said that he based Thomas on Spike from BtVS, making James Marsters the original image. He's aged a bit, though. (Would still be one of my picks because I still think he's pretty gorgeous, but it would have been better if casting had been done about ten years ago.)

I used to be a Matt Bomer supporter, but as my choice castings get older, I have to re-evaluate.  Currently supporting Kyle Schmidt for Thomas.

(http://kyle-schmid.net/Biography/Kylepremiere.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on April 22, 2012, 08:17:08 AM
Yeah. Yeah, he could do it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on April 30, 2012, 06:07:51 PM
I'd be willing to support Nathan Fillion as Harry (as if my opinion really matters) if he was ten years younger,  assuming of course they start the films at the beginning of the series.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 30, 2012, 06:40:31 PM
I'd be willing to support Nathan Fillion as Harry (as if my opinion really matters) if he was ten years younger,  assuming of course they start the films at the beginning of the series.

Mmm...Fillion is a little too....what's the word...pudgy, I guess.  I always picture Harry as being long and thin.  Well Fillion's got the long part down, at least, but the man has too much muscle.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on April 30, 2012, 07:12:16 PM
I always picture Harry as being long and thin.  Well Fillion's got the long part down, at least, but the man has too much muscle.

He's added some weight in both muscle and fat lately, but such was not always the case:

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqmqroq4jS1r110mmo8_500.jpg)

Yeah, he's older and beefier now, but if we're talking about an ideal world (at least my ideal world) Fillion would have been cast as Harry when he looked about like that. I still often picture current (most recent book) Harry looking like current Fillion, too; men tend to get a little beefier as they get into their late thirties, no matter how skinny they once were. It's just a thing that happens unless they have a magical metabolism of the gods (which some do.)
And, if you want a guy who has continued being incredibly lean as he approaches middle age, my other pick for Harry is David Tennant, so there ya go.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on May 02, 2012, 09:52:17 AM
And, if you want a guy who has continued being incredibly lean as he approaches middle age, my other pick for Harry is David Tennant, so there ya go.

This. Please.

Personal Casting so far:
David Tennant as Harry
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnijvl9XXc1ql40eeo1_500.jpg)

Matt Bomer as Thomas
(http://digitaljournal.com/img/4/3/7/7/3/5/i/5/8/4/o/n05.jpg)

toying with:
Brian Dietzen As Butters
(http://www.themortonreport.com/uploads/pics/dietzen250.jpg)

Mark Harmon As Marcone
(http://static.tvfanatic.com/files/harmon.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Big Daddy Sin on May 02, 2012, 06:47:07 PM
New to the board, bu just had to throw in my opinion.  For some reason I've always pictured Harry as Adrien Brody. (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Jv_SvUb4zNo/Tt1zB3qUv2I/AAAAAAAAFrY/3b8fRfOVjZQ/s1600/adrien+brody.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 02, 2012, 07:06:08 PM
This. Please.

Personal Casting so far:
David Tennant as Harry
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnijvl9XXc1ql40eeo1_500.jpg)

Matt Bomer as Thomas
(http://digitaljournal.com/img/4/3/7/7/3/5/i/5/8/4/o/n05.jpg)

toying with:
Brian Dietzen As Butters
(http://www.themortonreport.com/uploads/pics/dietzen250.jpg)

Mark Harmon As Marcone
(http://static.tvfanatic.com/files/harmon.jpg)

I kind of like your list, but my problem is Tennant as as Harry.  To me, Harry is American.  Grew up in the West, spent time in the South, before settling in the Midwest.  He's as American as Indiana Jones.  I like Tennant, and would love to see him in the Dresden Files in some capacity, but not as Harry.

They already stole Batman!  I won't let them have Harry too!

New to the board, bu just had to throw in my opinion.  For some reason I've always pictured Harry as Adrien Brody. (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Jv_SvUb4zNo/Tt1zB3qUv2I/AAAAAAAAFrY/3b8fRfOVjZQ/s1600/adrien+brody.jpg)

My image of Harry is a lot like Adrien Brody, but I just find the guy obnoxious.  I don't know why.  It's a failing of mine.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on May 02, 2012, 07:59:56 PM
James Marsters is and always will be Harry for me.  He is so spot on on the audiobooks that I can't imagine anyone else other than him.

(http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/965/965663/james-marsters-20090324020658292.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 02, 2012, 08:00:53 PM
^
Agrees whole heartedly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on May 02, 2012, 08:17:20 PM
James Marsters is nearly a foot shorter than Harry as described. Just saying. (Also, he's too pretty. I think he's spot-on as Thomas in the audiobooks, too... Particularly if you listen to Backup.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on May 02, 2012, 08:19:49 PM
I would sacrifice the height difference for him to be Harry.  I don't think he is pretty enough to be Thomas though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 02, 2012, 08:23:23 PM
The height thing can be dealt with - and not a lot of actors are as tall as Harry is supposed to be.
He might not be as pretty as Thomas is supposed to be but
he most certainly could play the part of a seductive vampire.
(Would that be type casting? ::))
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on May 02, 2012, 08:25:38 PM
I don't think he is pretty enough to be Thomas though.
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h121/PhoenixRoseStar/Emotes/UmOkaaaayyy.gif) Have... have you seen him?

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h121/PhoenixRoseStar/Random/james-marsters-13413.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on May 02, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
You know what would be funny?  To have Marsters cast as Harry and David Boreanaz cast as Thomas?   ;D

I don't see Marsters as "pretty" as in like a model.  More devilishly handsome and a bad boy, they way I think of Harry.

This guy is pretty...

(http://www.theboys.cn/simg/underwear/R/Ruben-Cortada/RubenCortada15.jpg)

I'm sorry, what was I talking about?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 02, 2012, 10:13:26 PM
This guy is pretty...

(http://www.theboys.cn/simg/underwear/R/Ruben-Cortada/RubenCortada15.jpg)

Grey Box?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cesarnoel on May 06, 2012, 03:48:23 PM
No Consideration for James Marsters? he narrated the audiobook version (except Ghost Story) and I believe he can play Harry Dresden in live action version.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on May 07, 2012, 04:13:23 AM
I think James Marsters is a bit too old to portray Harry (assuming they start at the beginning of the series), plus he is nowhere near Harry's height. I realize that finding a 6'7" actor to play Harry is problematic but I at least want somebody tall, someone taller than most people.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 07, 2012, 07:50:31 AM
Get someone who can play the part and worry about the height later.
That can always be handled in various ways.
Apple boxes, trenches, etc.  Hollywood has been making people look taller for years.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on May 07, 2012, 08:37:30 AM
Get someone who can play the part and worry about the height later.
That can always be handled in various ways.
Apple boxes, trenches, etc.  Hollywood has been making people look taller for years.
Even Tom Cruise? ;) ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 07, 2012, 05:22:26 PM
Even Tom Cruise? ;) ;)

As a Jack Reacher fan, I find that comment offensive and insulting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Magnus on May 07, 2012, 07:26:28 PM
I think James Marsters is a bit too old to portray Harry (assuming they start at the beginning of the series), plus he is nowhere near Harry's height. I realize that finding a 6'7" actor to play Harry is problematic but I at least want somebody tall, someone taller than most people.
Or make all the other actors shorter :P Well, the managed the height things, pretty well in lotr by the way ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 07, 2012, 07:50:25 PM
Or make all the other actors shorter :P Well, the managed the height things, pretty well in lotr by the way ;)

Yeah, because if you cast someone 6' to play 6'7 Harry, then you need to cast someone 4'5" to play 5' Murphy.  And then we ARE talking Hobbits.

But then Tom Cruise could wear lifts and play Murphy, so maybe it would work out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 08, 2012, 04:43:49 PM
Victor Webster = Harry Dresden?
Height = 6'3.5", described as looking 6'4" in The Scorpion King 3.
Add some boots, maybe with an inch sole, to get close to 6'5"

This is Webster from an old show called Mutant X
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/VW01.jpg)

This is Webster guest starring on Castle, standing next to Nathan Fillion.  See the height difference?
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/VW03.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on May 08, 2012, 07:16:06 PM
Yeah, because if you cast someone 6' to play 6'7 Harry, then you need to cast someone 4'5" to play 5' Murphy.  And then we ARE talking Hobbits.

But then Tom Cruise could wear lifts and play Murphy, so maybe it would work out.
Brigitte Nielsen as Harriet Dresden and Tom as Conan Murphy??
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 08, 2012, 07:54:30 PM
^Bwahaha!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on May 08, 2012, 07:58:30 PM
Victor Webster = Harry Dresden?
Height = 6'3.5", described as looking 6'4" in The Scorpion King 3.
Add some boots, maybe with an inch sole, to get close to 6'5"

This is Webster guest starring on Castle, standing next to Nathan Fillion.  See the height difference?
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/VW03.jpg)

I have not seen this dude before but I like him!  I can see him as Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sydna on May 08, 2012, 08:05:31 PM
He looks very good in leather. ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 08, 2012, 10:51:44 PM
Even Tom Cruise? ;) ;)

A man after mine own heart.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 09, 2012, 12:40:38 AM
Sigh, I like you mdodd - don't make me have to hurt you.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO - Tom Cruise in a Harry Dresden film - not now - not ever.
He isn't right - on top of which - he'd probably demand changes that would make it not HD..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on May 09, 2012, 01:23:10 AM
Sigh, I like you mdodd - don't make me have to hurt you.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO - Tom Cruise in a Harry Dresden film - not now - not ever.
He isn't right - on top of which - he'd probably demand changes that would make it not HD..
This.  Many, many times this.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on May 09, 2012, 01:37:28 AM
I am very, very confused. I thought I was making valid points for Tom Cruise not playing Harry Dresden a) because you would need a fork lift truck to get him up to 6 feet 7 inches b) you could get him if they did a role reversal (as per Magnus' post) with the wizard being female and the cop being male (you could put a camera in Ms Nielsens chest for his close-up's). Minority Report is one of my favourite films but you can't have him playing a tall person. Now Toot Toot on the other hand.....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 09, 2012, 02:07:27 AM
I am very, very confused. I thought I was making valid points for Tom Cruise not playing Harry Dresden a) because you would need a fork lift truck to get him up to 6 feet 7 inches b) you could get him if they did a role reversal (as per Magnus' post) with the wizard being female and the cop being male (you could put a camera in Ms Nielsens chest for his close-up's). Minority Report is one of my favourite films but you can't have him playing a tall person. Now Toot Toot on the other hand.....

Its all fun and games until Hollywood decides to cast 5'7" 160lb brown-haired Tom Cruise as 6'5" 250lb blond-haired Jack Reacher.

Then the tears begin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on May 09, 2012, 02:15:38 AM
That's when they start getting the Dear Sir letters from polite, irate fans and You &!£* from the less polite.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 09, 2012, 02:55:35 AM
lol, I vaguely remember this show from back in the day.  This is totally Murphy and Dresden.

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/2roghl2jpg.gif)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on May 09, 2012, 02:57:18 AM
I remember the show, but I don't like the blonde.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 09, 2012, 06:20:45 AM
Me either frankly.
As for Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher.
I suspect that Mr. Cruise liked the character so he bought the rights.
The fact that he might physically not be perfect for it, nor have the acting chops
for it wouldn't stop him for a minute.
I've already heard of one property where he wanted to buy it - but the writer told him that he was
too young for the part.  The writer was told that he could just rewrite it - which would have completely destroyed the story.  The writer said no and fortunately someone came along who was the right age and
bought his script.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on May 09, 2012, 06:29:45 PM
lol, I vaguely remember this show from back in the day.  This is totally Murphy and Dresden.

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/2roghl2jpg.gif)
Agreed 100 per cent
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on May 09, 2012, 06:48:43 PM
lol, I vaguely remember this show from back in the day.  This is totally Murphy and Dresden.

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/2roghl2jpg.gif)
Well, he throws lightning, and she is Tiny but Fierce, so sure I could buy that.  But I agree with Dina that the blond isnt right for Murphy.  Ive seen her a few times, and she's not one who can suppress her sensuality enough to be the hardened cop chick that murphy needs to be, especially in the early books.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on May 09, 2012, 09:37:54 PM
Exactly that, she is too hot for Murphy  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 09, 2012, 09:40:25 PM
Elaine however?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on May 09, 2012, 09:46:48 PM
Well, I don't like Eleaine, so that girl would be perfect for her  :D. But seriously, I always saw Elaine much more sophisticated. Like an Engliswoman stereotype.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 10, 2012, 01:19:18 AM
Oops, sorry, I got Susan and Elaine mixed up.  I've never really thought much
about Elaine.  Might be interesting if she was a pale blond in opposition to Harry's darker look.

Murphy is described as looking cute which is why she's had to work twice as hard
to be considered a good cop.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: GiantCorgi on May 18, 2012, 02:24:05 PM
I'm going Nathan Fillion all the way, if we can't have Marsters. I could also see Robert Downey Jr. I realize they are getting up in years, but some makeup and you'd never know. Absolutely no way on Hugh Jackson or Ryan Reynolds, imo they are entirely wrong for the role.

If the directors demanded a younger guy....hmmm. Man having a hard time thinking of someone. My husband? :P He's a wiseass, he's tall, and he has brown hair and is a major dork. As in, my engagement ring is custom made to look like a green lantern ring. That dorky. :P If he lost some weight I could totally see him doing it.

Now Murphy? Hmmm...hell, why not bring back Stana Katic. We already know she plays a good cop and plays well with Fillion.

Bruce Willis for Morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on May 18, 2012, 02:29:43 PM
If the directors demanded a younger guy....hmmm. Man having a hard time thinking of someone. My husband? :P He's a wiseass, he's tall, and he has brown hair and is a major dork. As in, my engagement ring is custom made to look like a green lantern ring. That dorky. :P If he lost some weight I could totally see him doing it.
Thats Awesome!   Do have a picture of this Ring?  Has he made you a lantern yet?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: GiantCorgi on May 18, 2012, 04:34:00 PM
Thats Awesome!   Do have a picture of this Ring?  Has he made you a lantern yet?

I don't have a pic I can post now, but when I get home I'll take one and post it. And I don't know if I'm an "official" lantern, but he taught me the oath. :P

In brightest day
in blackest night
no evil shall escape my sight
let those who worship evil's might
beware my power
green lantern's light!

[Edit] Here's pics of the ring, sorry they are blurry, apparently my cameras don't have a good resolution. Basically the engagement ring has 3 lanterns, one in the center and one on each side, and each has a little stone in it, and then the wedding ring is just made to fit with it on my hand.

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g11/Stolen_September/Gcorgringone.png)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g11/Stolen_September/Gcorgringtwo.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 18, 2012, 10:45:30 PM
Okay, this is going to sound out of the blue, but I've been watching 'Primeval', a British series about ripples in time allowing prehistoric animals to come into London.

The main character, Professor Nick Cutter, is played by Douglas Henshall.  He tends to be quiet and soft-spoken, only occasionally getting upset.

And now I can't get it out of my head for him to play Martin

(http://www.douglashenshall.com/Collision_3.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on May 19, 2012, 12:29:41 AM
It seems like a good choice  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on May 19, 2012, 12:31:29 AM
I want Will Wheaton to play as Butters.

So funny, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHmf1bau9xQ&feature=bf_next&list=PL4F80C7D2DC8D9B6C&context=G2b9da70FAAAAAAAAJAA)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on May 22, 2012, 06:20:03 AM
I don't know if anyone remembers the "BBC casting" discussion we were having here some time ago, but I just saw this:

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/4/1/1/129411_v1.jpg)

...and my thought was pretty much "Harry and Murphy."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on May 22, 2012, 06:23:09 AM
I want Will Wheaton to play as Butters.
Mmmmm.... nah. Wheaton is awesome, and is a real-life geeky nice guy, but he comes off as kind of asshole-ish on screen. I don't think he's got the right... energy for Butters.

I don't know if anyone remembers the "BBC casting" discussion we were having here some time ago, but I just saw this:

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/4/1/1/129411_v1.jpg)

...and my thought was pretty much "Harry and Murphy."
Ahahaha! I love it!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 22, 2012, 07:51:31 AM
I agree on Will Wheaton not being the best choice for Butters.
Not sure who the two Brits are - am not sold on them as Harry and Murphy either - sorry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on May 22, 2012, 07:57:12 AM
Not sure who the two Brits are
I'm... very sad for you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on May 22, 2012, 01:33:20 PM
Dr Who not your cup of tea, Snow?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on May 22, 2012, 03:55:25 PM
Woah, I'm a huge Who fan, and it took me a minute or two before I convinced myself that was David Tennant.  His face looks odd at that angle.

Man, I wish that couple every happiness, but they have to have the most weirdly fandomcestuous relationship ever.  Remember when the Doctor's daughter who played the Doctor's daughter in "The Doctor's Daughter" had the Doctor's daughter? :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 22, 2012, 05:50:11 PM
Whoa, that's David Tennant - didn't even recognize him.
Hey mdodd, I'm still a Who fan but I haven't watched it for years - so I only know
bits and pieces of what's going on or who is WHO so to speak. ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on May 22, 2012, 06:09:45 PM
Remember when the Doctor's daughter who played the Doctor's daughter in "The Doctor's Daughter" had the Doctor's daughter? :D
Yeah, that was so awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 22, 2012, 06:39:41 PM
Fandomcestuous.
Brilliant!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on May 22, 2012, 07:14:05 PM
I always picture Billy as a younger Wil Wheaton. I don't know why. Must be the whole gaming geek thing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on May 22, 2012, 09:39:02 PM
I always picture Billy as a younger Wil Wheaton.
That I could see. Billy has a bit more... aggressive energy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on May 23, 2012, 05:55:49 AM
My two cents:

Harry Dresden - Zachary Quinto

Karrin Murphy - Brea Grant, Sarah Michelle Gellar or maybe Summer Glau?

Thomas Raith - Brandon Routh?

Leahnansidhe - Famke Jansen, Christine Hendricks?

Michael Carpenter - Ewan McGreggor

John Marcone - Liam Neissan?

Susan Rodriegeze - Erica Cerra

Billy Borden - Josh Hutcherson?

Kincaid - Bradley Cooper

Nicodemus - Patrick Stewart

Reminds me of years ago when I was discussing who should play who in the Harry Potter movies.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 23, 2012, 06:29:54 AM
My two cents:

Harry Dresden - Zachary Quinto

Karrin Murphy - Brea Grant, Sarah Michelle Gellar or maybe Summer Glau?

Thomas Raith - Brandon Routh?

Leahnansidhe - Famke Jansen, Christine Hendricks?

Michael Carpenter - Ewan McGreggor

John Marcone - Liam Neissan?

Susan Rodriegeze - Erica Cerra

Billy Borden - Josh Hutcherson?

Kincaid - Bradley Cooper

Nicodemus - Patrick Stewart

Reminds me of years ago when I was discussing who should play who in the Harry Potter movies.

My only real issues with these are that
  A) Brandon Routh is too big to be Thomas,
  B) Ewan McGregor is too small to be Michael, and
  C) I've never pictured Nic as bald or that old.  I have no doubt Stewart could play it well, but at 71, I think he'd be a better Merlin, except again for the hair situation.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on May 23, 2012, 06:38:01 AM
My only real issues with these are that
  A) Brandon Routh is too big to be Thomas,
  B) Ewan McGregor is too small to be Michael
Ha. And just a little while ago people shook their fingers at me when I wanted a tall guy to play Dresden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 23, 2012, 08:03:33 AM
Hannah Spearritt from Primeval. 
 - Height:  5'4"
 - Hair:  Blonde
 - Eyes:  Blue
 - Age:  31

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Hanna_Spearritt.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on May 23, 2012, 12:39:56 PM
Woah, I'm a huge Who fan, and it took me a minute or two before I convinced myself that was David Tennant.  His face looks odd at that angle.

Man, I wish that couple every happiness, but they have to have the most weirdly fandomcestuous relationship ever.  Remember when the Doctor's daughter who played the Doctor's daughter in "The Doctor's Daughter" had the Doctor's daughter? :D
And the doctor's daughter's mother is Trillion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on May 23, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
Whoa, that's David Tennant - didn't even recognize him.
Hey mdodd, I'm still a Who fan but I haven't watched it for years - so I only know
bits and pieces of what's going on or who is WHO so to speak. ::)
Snow, I wasn't trying to be snarky. I did discuss with Shades as to whether you were old school like myself. The Child Genius is a huge Dr Who and Primeval fan, so I watch the 21st Century Who with her. I still think Genesis of the Daleks is still the best story ever and Tom Baker and Elisabeth Sladen as the best pairing. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 24, 2012, 01:55:44 AM
Hey, I didn't think you were being snarky, mdodd.
Sorry if I came across so.
Cracked tooth may have me more cranky than I think.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 26, 2012, 04:38:24 PM
I'm still pushing Summer Glau as Luccio 2.0
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on May 26, 2012, 07:44:25 PM
David Krumholtz as Butters?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: brentiful on May 27, 2012, 01:58:18 AM
So here's my star studded super awesome lineup.

Harry- zachary quinto
       I think johnney depp would be pretty awesome as well. who wouldnt love a tim burtony     
       dresden files?
Molly- Allison Lohman
       OOOR zoey deschanel. probably only because i want to marry her. but i think she'd have   
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on May 27, 2012, 02:02:04 AM
who wouldnt love a tim burtony     
       dresden files?

*raises hand*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: GiantCorgi on May 27, 2012, 04:10:36 AM
That would depend entirely on if he's willing to leave Johnny Depp out of it. I'm sorry, but no Depp, not in the Dresden Files, and especially not with the unholy duo of Depp & Burton. I like some of their work, but I think more often then not whatever they make ends up as a caricature of itself rather than a serious work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on May 27, 2012, 06:57:45 AM
I'm still pushing Summer Glau as Luccio 2.0
Summer Glau as Summer Lady!

David Krumholtz as Butters?
Finally someone agrees with me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on May 27, 2012, 07:04:17 AM
who wouldnt love a tim burtony     
       dresden files? 
Tim Burton does not work well with other people's material. He's a talented director but I don't want him within a mile of The Dresden Files.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on May 27, 2012, 09:33:10 AM
While I can see why it would be good to dwell on, I agree that he wouldn't be the best route to go down.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zuriel on May 27, 2012, 05:50:29 PM
For me, in my two cents opinion, the main characters, Dresden, Murphy, Molly at least, should be relatively unknown actors, who are not associated with any other well-recognized role.  I'm kinda funny that way.  Harry - and company - deserves their very own, untainted images.

I admit I don't recognize several names on the poll (I have a very limited TV/movie interest currently), but the ones I see listed, that I know of, are totally not right for this part.  Nathan F.?  Ugh.  Not even close, as is Gerard Butler and Jared P.  They do absolutely nothing for me, and do not fit my understanding of Jim's descriptions.  Isn't Dresden supposed to be very tall, with an angular face?  That's what I want.  The real deal.  And no buzz cut hair, or whatever the current style is.  Keep Harry pure Harry!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fuego de Alma on May 29, 2012, 12:06:42 AM
Isn't Dresden supposed to be very tall, with an angular face?  . . .  And no buzz cut hair, or whatever the current style is.
Yeah, you know you just described Nathan Fillion after dismissing him out of hand, right?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 29, 2012, 12:44:22 AM
Yeah, you know you just described Nathan Fillion after dismissing him out of hand, right?

Harry Dresden is described as lean, with only runner's muscle, and is approximately 6'7".

Nathan Fillion is 6'1&1/2" tall, and he's stocky.  If you've watched any of Castle, you'd see that he's beefed up a lot.  He had about 10 tons of muscle at the beginning of this last season for some reason, and I was suspicious that he might have been filming a superhero film on the sly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zuriel on May 29, 2012, 01:58:01 AM
Harry Dresden is described as lean, with only runner's muscle, and is approximately 6'7".

Nathan Fillion is 6'1&1/2" tall, and he's stocky.  If you've watched any of Castle, you'd see that he's beefed up a lot.  He had about 10 tons of muscle at the beginning of this last season for some reason, and I was suspicious that he might have been filming a superhero film on the sly.

Exactly.  Nathan does not fit the description of Harry at all.  And I think he's too old...or he just looks it anyway.  And he has a heavy nasal tone, like a constant stuffy nose quality to his voice, even though it's a baritone, which is also Harry's tone of voice according to Jim.  But that's the only similarity.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 29, 2012, 02:29:37 AM
Exactly.  Nathan does not fit the description of Harry at all.  And I think he's too old...or he just looks it anyway.  And he has a heavy nasal tone, like a constant stuffy nose quality to his voice, even though it's a baritone, which is also Harry's tone of voice according to Jim.  But that's the only similarity.

Well, technically they're both white with dark hair, so he's kind of similar.  He's what I picture Michael to be maybe, but not Harry.

When he was younger and leaner, and his 6'1&1/2" got his farther, he might have been able to do it.  And he has a decent voice for 1st person narration, as seen in the noir episode of Castle this past year. 

But I'm still not seeing him as Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zuriel on May 29, 2012, 03:04:10 AM
Well, technically they're both white with dark hair, so he's kind of similar.  He's what I picture Michael to be maybe, but not Harry.

When he was younger and leaner, and his 6'1&1/2" got his farther, he might have been able to do it.  And he has a decent voice for 1st person narration, as seen in the noir episode of Castle this past year. 

But I'm still not seeing him as Harry.

LOL...yes there are those similarities you mentioned.  I just took them for granted.   :)

I think my problem is that I have this image of Harry in my mind and he looks pretty much like the book covers, and I can't get it out of my head.  Cause I like it too much.   :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 29, 2012, 03:50:30 AM
LOL...yes there are those similarities you mentioned.  I just took them for granted.   :)

I think my problem is that I have this image of Harry in my mind and he looks pretty much like the book covers, and I can't get it out of my head.  Cause I like it too much.   :P

I think Christian McGrath models his cover art figures on real-world people.  I don't know who he uses for Dresden, but here's a picture of CMcG himself...

(http://chrismcgrathart.squarespace.com/storage/Cmbio2010%20B%20copy.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1330298658557)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zuriel on May 29, 2012, 04:12:08 AM
Interesting...the artist himself looks a bit like Harry, dark, angular face, thin frame, though he isn't quite as attractive as Harry.  Maybe he used himself as a rough draft. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thessaly on June 01, 2012, 06:02:26 AM
Tim Burton does not work well with other people's material. He's a talented director but I don't want him within a mile of The Dresden Files.

I can see the simple truth in that. Furthermore, his works tend to be very similar to one another and it's important that the subject matter (any subject matter) that you did not create but took on is dealt with in its own, unique way.

As to the cast, I'm pretty much in the corner of those that would hope for otherwise "unknown" actors (and actresses) taking the lead roles. This isn't to say that they're blank slates, but that they're not really famous for a particular role at the time of their casting. Whether this is possible remains to be seen, although it's worked for quite a few shows that made this gutsy move that usually flies counter to what producers and studio execs want. But those producers and executives aren't in it for the show, they're speaking entirely from greed. The less they have their sticky fingers in something the better the projects always are. (This applies to movies and television equally. There are numerous examples; out of sequence episodes, poor but famous ensemble casts that have absolutely no chemistry, etcetera.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 01, 2012, 05:21:41 PM
I can see the simple truth in that. Furthermore, his works tend to be very similar to one another and it's important that the subject matter (any subject matter) that you did not create but took on is dealt with in its own, unique way.

As to the cast, I'm pretty much in the corner of those that would hope for otherwise "unknown" actors (and actresses) taking the lead roles. This isn't to say that they're blank slates, but that they're not really famous for a particular role at the time of their casting. Whether this is possible remains to be seen, although it's worked for quite a few shows that made this gutsy move that usually flies counter to what producers and studio execs want. But those producers and executives aren't in it for the show, they're speaking entirely from greed. The less they have their sticky fingers in something the better the projects always are. (This applies to movies and television equally. There are numerous examples; out of sequence episodes, poor but famous ensemble casts that have absolutely no chemistry, etcetera.)

See, part of me agrees with the unknown actors bit, at least for the lead roles.  Part of me thinks that lesser known actors that are still good would be best, so that when people watch, they see the characters, not the actors they know playing the characters.

On the other hand, putting in some well known actors would bring some legitimacy to the show, and garner fan interest.  For instance, casting Nathan Fillion as Michael Carpenter would interest his entire fanbase, and might increase viewership.  But it has to be the right fit for the character first.

I think having guest appearances by big names would be best.  I like the idea of Helen Mirren as Mother Summer and Judi Dench as Mother Winter.  Big names that can also act the part convincingly.  And I like the idea of casting capable actors in really small parts too.  I've always pictured Michael Chiklis as Mac, even though he doesn't fit the physical description.  But the first time I thought of Michael Chiklis in the series was page one of SF, when JB described the new mailman as looking like a basketball.  I immediately though of Chiklis.  Casting more recognized people for smaller parts would definitely be a plus, as long as they fit. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Thessaly on June 02, 2012, 08:40:22 PM
See, part of me agrees with the unknown actors bit, at least for the lead roles.  Part of me thinks that lesser known actors that are still good would be best, so that when people watch, they see the characters, not the actors they know playing the characters.

On the other hand, putting in some well known actors would bring some legitimacy to the show, and garner fan interest.  For instance, casting Nathan Fillion as Michael Carpenter would interest his entire fanbase, and might increase viewership.  But it has to be the right fit for the character first.

I think having guest appearances by big names would be best.  I like the idea of Helen Mirren as Mother Summer and Judi Dench as Mother Winter.  Big names that can also act the part convincingly.  And I like the idea of casting capable actors in really small parts too.  I've always pictured Michael Chiklis as Mac, even though he doesn't fit the physical description.  But the first time I thought of Michael Chiklis in the series was page one of SF, when JB described the new mailman as looking like a basketball.  I immediately though of Chiklis.  Casting more recognized people for smaller parts would definitely be a plus, as long as they fit.

I can easily concede you those points.

Lesser known actors, such as Peter Dinklage who has done a fair bit of filmwork prior to starring in Game of Thrones, pass off their parts with aplomb and weight that most of us simply wouldn't have expected. Despite familiarity with the actor and a great deal of character discrepancies (Tyrion's appearance vs Peter's), it just feels right that he was cast for that part.

I'm a huge fan of Nathan Fillion (admittedly mostly from his work on Firefly and thereafter), and despite those very impressionable roles, he still has some flexibility and hasn't been typecast in his works as strongly as, say, Timothy Olyphant (Deadwood, Justified; always the dignified but loose cannon pretty-boy lawman). He could certainly do, as you exampled, Michael convincingly. But could someone do better? I think so. And I'd take that risk in a heartbeat, despite my manly love for Nathan.

There's also the concern that well established actors justifiably get paid more, and that would detract from the film's overall budget. Certainly the film could gross more due to the fanbase the actors bring with them, but it doesn't change the budget of the film and that's very important. Sets & effects vs actor appeal isn't a hard decision in my books. I'm as much a proponent of actor-driven dramas, but the stage has to be convincing too otherwise it all falls apart.

I've been told I'm a pragmatic sort of thinker in this regard, as I remove possibilities based on the above. I still enjoy visualising what people are suggesting for parts though. Without scrolling back over 337 pages, what are the fan favourites at the moment? The poll doesn't seem very indicative.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 02, 2012, 09:39:53 PM
I can easily concede you those points.

Lesser known actors, such as Peter Dinklage who has done a fair bit of filmwork prior to starring in Game of Thrones, pass off their parts with aplomb and weight that most of us simply wouldn't have expected. Despite familiarity with the actor and a great deal of character discrepancies (Tyrion's appearance vs Peter's), it just feels right that he was cast for that part.

I'm a huge fan of Nathan Fillion (admittedly mostly from his work on Firefly and thereafter), and despite those very impressionable roles, he still has some flexibility and hasn't been typecast in his works as strongly as, say, Timothy Olyphant (Deadwood, Justified; always the dignified but loose cannon pretty-boy lawman). He could certainly do, as you exampled, Michael convincingly. But could someone do better? I think so. And I'd take that risk in a heartbeat, despite my manly love for Nathan.

There's also the concern that well established actors justifiably get paid more, and that would detract from the film's overall budget. Certainly the film could gross more due to the fanbase the actors bring with them, but it doesn't change the budget of the film and that's very important. Sets & effects vs actor appeal isn't a hard decision in my books. I'm as much a proponent of actor-driven dramas, but the stage has to be convincing too otherwise it all falls apart.

I've been told I'm a pragmatic sort of thinker in this regard, as I remove possibilities based on the above. I still enjoy visualising what people are suggesting for parts though. Without scrolling back over 337 pages, what are the fan favourites at the moment? The poll doesn't seem very indicative.

There doesn't seem to be any consistency.  People tend to like one actor and stick to them, or bounce back and forth.  I know I've posted many candidates, but I'm not hung on any.  I'm open to suggestions.

The constant casting of favorites from other shows is frustrating, but I do it myself.    I just watched Primeval, and immediately started thinking of people I'd bring to a DF serires.  Same for Merlin, which I'm watching now.

I originally wanted a lot of international casting.  My first thought was for all of the Fae to be actors and actresses brought in from Europe or Australia. And cast all of the known Red Court from South America.  That way there could be established actors, but Americans wouldn't recognize them , and it would increase marketability for international broadcast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 04, 2012, 02:18:48 PM
I still say Anthony Hopkins for Nic.

And Christopher Walken I think would work as Injun Joe ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 05, 2012, 01:24:46 AM
Having watched Unstoppable again.  I do like that movie.
I think Chris Pine could be either Harry or Thomas.
As for Injun Joe - Wes Studi.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on June 05, 2012, 08:21:55 PM
As for Injun Joe - Wes Studi.

I can't believe I didn't think of him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ravenhost on June 06, 2012, 12:04:16 AM
Harry- Robert Downey Jr
Murphy-  Claire Danes
Thomas- Stuart Townsend
Molly-Emily Browning
Ebenezar McCoy -Robert Duvall
Morgan- Mark Addy
Lara Raith- Monica Bellucci
the Leanansidhe -Nicole Kidman
Susan-Erica Cerra
Bob - (voiced byZach Galifianakis )
Butters- Steve Buscemi
Michael- Nikolaj Coster-Waldau
Charity Carpenter-January Jones
Sanya-Djimon Hounsou
Nicodemus - Gary Oldman
Kincaid - Alexander Skarsgård
The Archive-Dakota Fanning
Queen Mab- Bryce Dallas Howard
Maeve-Camilla Belle
Aurora-Scarlett Johansson
Gentleman" Johnny Marcone-Ed Harris
William Borden-Sean Astin
Georgia Borden-Keira Knightley
IMO..... ;D

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on June 06, 2012, 01:10:24 AM
Charity Carpenter-January Jones

. . .


(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h121/PhoenixRoseStar/Emotes/ohman.gif)

Ow... brain.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Demandred on June 07, 2012, 03:14:42 AM
I vote myself as Dresden!

I'm 6'1", weigh 165, like to run...

Oh, I have to be able to act? Dang it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ironman on June 07, 2012, 05:09:45 PM
Michael Fassbender as Harry
Rooney Mara as Murphy
Hugo Weaving as Morgan
Zoe Saldana as Susan
Ryan Gosling as Thomas
Christopher Waltz as Nicodemus
Matt Smith as Bob
Chris Hemsworth as Michael
Viggo Mortensen as Marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on June 07, 2012, 05:16:01 PM
Wow. I disagree with all of those, but Waltz. I would take him to play anything.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 07, 2012, 05:35:23 PM
People Please. We already have a Nicodemous, no need to look further. It's Jeffery Donovan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 07, 2012, 07:26:48 PM
People Please. We already have a Nicodemous, no need to look further. It's Jeffery Donovan.

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff117/bobbyenash/bn311_0542.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 07, 2012, 10:53:44 PM
I think he's a touch too young for Nic.
But I think he'd make a great Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 07, 2012, 11:57:44 PM
I think he's a touch too young for Nic.
But I think he'd make a great Marcone.

Thats odd, I picture both being the same age appearance.  I picture Nic being in his 40's, not aging.  I picture Marcone in his 40's as well, and progressively aging over the series.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 08, 2012, 12:44:54 AM
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff117/bobbyenash/bn311_0542.jpg)

Exactly, thank you Griff.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on June 08, 2012, 02:07:02 AM
I imagine Marcone older than Nick  :o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 08, 2012, 02:08:16 AM
I think Charlize Theron with dark hair would make a dynamite Lara.
She can project both menace and sultry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 08, 2012, 02:09:12 AM
I imagine Marcone older than Nick  :o
I agree.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MetalFae on June 09, 2012, 02:22:30 AM
Harry- Robert Downey Jr


I agree that his looks and personality match really well with Harry..in fact that's what I thought of when I was thinking about casting but.. the only problem is that Downer Jr is like.. 5 foot. -_-; So it wouldn't work...and he's also not lanky. If we could just cut off Downey Jrs head and then attach it to a talk lanky dude then we'd be set! ^_^ Lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 09, 2012, 02:24:44 AM
I think RDJ would not make a good Harry. Snarky yes. Scared Snarky. No.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MetalFae on June 09, 2012, 02:27:08 AM
I think RDJ would not make a good Harry. Snarky yes. Scared Snarky. No.

Scared snarky? I dunno I think he does that rather well ^___^ Then again, I'm biased. I think he's awesome anyways :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 09, 2012, 02:29:25 AM
Scared snarky? I dunno I think he does that rather well ^___^ Then again, I'm biased. I think he's awesome anyways :D
I dare you to find one point in either Sherlock or Iron Man where he was legit scared.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MetalFae on June 09, 2012, 02:50:20 AM
I dare you to find one point in either Sherlock or Iron Man where he was legit scared.

Legit scared and snarky scared sound like two different things :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 09, 2012, 02:54:17 AM
I mean he is never even scared, to use snarkyness to hide it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 09, 2012, 06:10:32 AM
I dare you to find one point in either Sherlock or Iron Man where he was legit scared.

He was scared in Avengers.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: FishStampede on June 12, 2012, 01:35:16 PM
I went with the most popular choice, but my second choice is Janitor, and my third choice is Ryan Reynolds. All of them would do the tall dark and snarky very well. Janitor would sure as hell have an interesting take on the character.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 14, 2012, 12:19:29 PM
(I know it will never happen now, but when Firefly first came out, Sean Maher would've been good for Thomas and Nathan FIllion for Harry. This is what happens when you rewatch Firefly and do a marathon.)

Sherlock Holmes should've been tall and lanky-ish too, but the casting worked. Sometimes it's just the actor and how they act that you need.

...although that said, as awesome and interesting RDJ would be for Harry he's too old. >>
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on June 15, 2012, 12:02:07 AM
Just realized that I picture Donald Morgan as Liam Neisen when I read the books.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on June 15, 2012, 08:05:59 PM
Just realized that I picture Donald Morgan as Liam Neisen when I read the books.

I pictured him like Sean Connery in Medicine Man.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 15, 2012, 08:49:43 PM
^
I like that idea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on June 15, 2012, 09:33:54 PM
I have always pictured Eb as Sean Connery,
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 15, 2012, 09:46:02 PM
I have always pictured Eb as Sean Connery,

I've always pictured Wilford Brimley as Eb.  He's got the look, the attitude, and the voice.  He's perfect. 

He's stocky, like Harry described him (i think).
He's weathered, like country boy Eb would be.
He's short, like Eb is supposed to be.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kqn40nvqcL1qziampo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: rickbman on June 18, 2012, 12:14:17 PM
I very rarely picture actors when I am reading a book, however I've been reading Proven Guilty again and maybe it is because Charlize Theron has been in a lot of movies lately but I keep picturing her as Charity Carpenter.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on June 22, 2012, 08:15:12 PM
I don't know if these have been suggested before, but I think Benedict Cumberbatch would be a great Nicodemus. With his hair cut short and dyed a bit for the silver streak, he'd fit the description, and he's got enough coldness to play Nick. He's chillingly cold in parts of Sherlock.

I also think that Summer Glau would make a good post-Corpsetaker Luccio, although I also think she might make a good Lash (I know she doesn't fith the description, but hey.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on June 23, 2012, 03:09:58 AM
I had suggested Brimly for Eb, then someone suggested the guy from Lonesome Dove (can't remember his name)

How about the guy who played Magneto for Langtry?  Ian McKel-something.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on June 23, 2012, 04:37:02 AM
I don't know if these have been suggested before, but I think Benedict Cumberbatch would be a great Nicodemus. With his hair cut short and dyed a bit for the silver streak, he'd fit the description, and he's got enough coldness to play Nick. He's chillingly cold in parts of Sherlock.

I also think that Summer Glau would make a good post-Corpsetaker Luccio, although I also think she might make a good Lash (I know she doesn't fith the description, but hey.)

You had me at Benedict Cumberbatch. It's so hard to be a fangirl.
But, seriously though, I think he could pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on June 23, 2012, 10:59:32 AM
Ian Mkellen (probably not spelling his name right)? He did Gandalf, so it might be wierd, given the number of LotR references.

I also think Sean Connery would be a good Eb.

I don't know if anyone else has said this, but Sarah Michelle Gellar might be good as Murphy (I know her eyes are the wrong colour, but I can't be the onmly one who pictured her when reading Murph's description in Storm Front).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 23, 2012, 11:27:00 AM
I had suggested Brimly for Eb, then someone suggested the guy from Lonesome Dove (can't remember his name)

How about the guy who played Magneto for Langtry?  Ian McKel-something.

Ian McKellen?  My only issue is that he's already known as Gandalf.  And Christopher Lee is already known as Saruman.  Surely we can find another iconic British actor for Langtry.  I just hate to rehash the genre.

What about Bill Nighy?  He's done fantasy/scifi work, but I can't think of any wizard roles off the top of my head.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CzMpPsB3hnQ/SmTO8jxyiRI/AAAAAAAAFvw/aJzZmMAarZM/s400/bill_nighy.jpg)

If it weren't for the description of large silver locks, I'd say Patrick Stewart could be Langtry. But only IF Langtry ends up being a good guy.
(http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2011/04/19/90383-british-actor-patrick-stewart.jpg)

And of course, who could not want Jeremy Irons in the series?   But only IF Langtry ends up being a bad guy.  Maybe DuMorne instead?  Seen only in flashbacks?
(http://www.britscene.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/British-TV-Actor-Jeremy-Irons-Borgias-Image-e1301622664402-300x170.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on June 23, 2012, 01:32:28 PM
I could see Jeremy Irons as Lord Raith or Nicodemus (see my above post for my preferred Nick), but I don't know about Langtry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: staren0286 on June 24, 2012, 01:35:30 AM
People I for sure have set in my head when I read the books:

Marcone: Eric Roberts
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000616/
Sanya: Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje (Mr Eko from Lost)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0015382/
Father Forthill: Henry Gibson
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002099/
Morgan: Billy Connolly
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0175262/

The rest tend to be people I constructed from the descriptions in the books they dont really match actors off the top of my head. But the above were dead on for me no questions they're who I see when I read. Also if they do a movie James Marsters has to voice Bob no questions.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 24, 2012, 11:17:05 AM
People I for sure have set in my head when I read the books:

Marcone: Eric Roberts
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000616/
Sanya: Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje (Mr Eko from Lost)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0015382/
Father Forthill: Henry Gibson
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002099/
Morgan: Billy Connolly
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0175262/

The rest tend to be people I constructed from the descriptions in the books they dont really match actors off the top of my head. But the above were dead on for me no questions they're who I see when I read. Also if they do a movie James Marsters has to voice Bob no questions.

I'd say that Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje and Henry Gibson are both on point with how I picture them, except that Adewale might be too old; I picture Sanya as around Harry's age.

Roberts smiles too much for Marcone, and he's only sinister when he smiles.  For Marcone, you need a sinister look with a straight face.

I picture Adrian Pasdar as Marcone.  He's 47 now, so a touch of grey at the temples will be about right. 
(http://img.poptower.com/pic-2451/adrian-pasdar.jpg?d=600)

And I'm a Billy Connolley fan, but that's not how I see Morgan.  I honestly can't say who I picture Morgan as, because he's always just been this big, older wrestler-type.  Someone that has the height of Harry, but a lot of muscle.  And a bad attitude.  But since I can't think of anyone, oh well.  In the meantime, here's a picture of Mark Calaway, a.k.a. The Undertaker...
(http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Mark_Calaway-2.jpg)


And on a random tangent, Colin Salmon is how I picture Warden Chandler, a.k.a. 'Steed'.  If you've seen the James Bond film The World is Not Enough, he played Charles Robinson, the chief of MI6.  He had that stuffy British ministry vibe combined with a bit of humor, which is perfect for Steed.
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081223204246/hex-tv/images/thumb/2/2a/Colin_Salmon.jpg/200px-Colin_Salmon.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on June 25, 2012, 02:57:16 AM
IIRC, Jim said he pictured Clancy Brown (the Kurgan from The Highlander) as Morgan.

I could see the Undertaker done up like the Erlking.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: RJRobb2 on June 25, 2012, 03:42:50 AM
I cannot believe so many people have Nathan Fillion as Harry.  I dont think I can even watch it if that was the case.  He just doesnt match, at all. 

The perfect actor for Harry is Timothy Olyphant.  If you have seen Justified, you know why.  When I watch that show, Raylan is like Harry's long lost brother.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 25, 2012, 12:58:50 PM
I think I have finally settled on Michael Fassbender as Harry.  Hes got the best face and emotional range for it that I have found, and isnt so popular that he is famous for another role. 

As much as I like Nathan Fillion, he just doesnt fit, especially these days as he is getting older and thicker.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 25, 2012, 05:09:22 PM
I also think that Summer Glau would make a good post-Corpsetaker Luccio, although I also think she might make a good Lash (I know she doesn't fith the description, but hey.)

You've just made a friend.

I had suggested Brimly for Eb, then someone suggested the guy from Lonesome Dove (can't remember his name)

Robert Duvall?  Also Boo Radley in To Kill a Mockingbird,  Tom Hagen from the Godfather, Lucky Ned Pepper from True Grit, Frank Burns in MASH (movie), Hub McCann from Secondhand Lions, ...  I could keep going, but you get the picture.  Shecky suggested it and I agree, but that may be because I'm a great big Duvall fan.

The perfect actor for Harry is Timothy Olyphant.  If you have seen Justified, you know why.  When I watch that show, Raylan is like Harry's long lost brother.

I wouldn't say perfect, but he's closer than Fillion.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on June 25, 2012, 09:29:04 PM
You've just made a friend.

Thanks. She could do Luccio, although I'm not sure about the accent (her russian one in Angel was pretty good, but her british accent in Firefly was cringeworthy). I think she'd be good as Lash because we're supposed to feel sorry for her on some level, while still recognising how dangerous she is, and Glau already pulled a similar role off in The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on June 25, 2012, 11:18:23 PM
this thread will never die. ugh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: warden_fernandez on June 26, 2012, 08:48:18 AM
I think Christopher Meloni would be a great Marcone... although he would need green contact lenses. But maybe it's because I just saw him on True Blood ...http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1815655424/nm0005221
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 26, 2012, 08:49:08 AM
I think I suggested him awhile back.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Oddball on June 26, 2012, 05:56:17 PM
Benedict Cumberbatch as Warden Chandler or wizard peabody but Nicodemus not so much, Jeremy Irons as Nicodemus yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on June 26, 2012, 06:58:36 PM
Benedict Cumberbatch as Warden Chandler or wizard peabody but Nicodemus not so much, Jeremy Irons as Nicodemus yes.

Nononono, Anthony Hopkins as Nicodemus!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: NeuroHeart on June 26, 2012, 08:12:12 PM
Benedict Cumberbatch as Warden Chandler or wizard peabody but Nicodemus not so much, Jeremy Irons as Nicodemus yes.
Peabody??? Nononono, that has to be some pointy-faced weaselly guy. Jared Leto (http://img2-2.timeinc.net/people/i/2008/news/080211/jared_leto240.jpg) comes to mind, at least in terms of a pointy face and slicked-back hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: warden_fernandez on June 26, 2012, 11:50:48 PM
really Snowleopard? sorry, I tried to see if anybody else had suggested him but after like 50 pages I gave up...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 27, 2012, 08:34:00 AM
That's okay - it was waaaaay back in the thread.
At least I think I suggested him.
Perhaps not.  Whatever he's a good choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on June 27, 2012, 04:20:07 PM
Harry Dresden: Zachary Quinto
Murphy: No actress completely satisfies me but I think candidates include Sarah Michelle Gellar, Summer Glau or Brea Grant.
Michael Carpenter: Ewan McGreggor (Yes, I know he isn't very tall. I picked him anyway)
Thomas Raith: Brandon Routh?
Kincaid: Bradley Cooper
Morgan: Liam Neisen
Butters: David Krumholtz
Voice of Bob: Jason Lee
Leah: Famke Jansen or Christine Hendricks
Will: Josh Hutcherson
Martin: Anthony Rapp
Susan: Erica Cerra

I have to admit, I am intrigued by the idea of Chistopher Meloni playing Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on July 09, 2012, 12:51:17 AM
I think Thomas Hayden Church would make a perfect Micheal Carpenter.

Robert Duvall for Eb and Jeremy Irons as Nicodemus.

What about Gary Oldman as Marcone?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on July 09, 2012, 03:44:21 PM
I think Gary Oldman would be better as Nic - he does crazy too well to be Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on July 12, 2012, 07:09:26 PM
I've found Molly. (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1628079/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on July 12, 2012, 07:39:01 PM
I agree that Oldman could be a perfect Nic.  Since we're talking about "perfect" casting, I envision Marcone as a different body type than Oldman.  Stockier, more beefy, broader shoulders.  (Not that Oldman couldn't play the part, as I'm sure he could, but in my head he doesn't look the part.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 12, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
I agree that Oldman could be a perfect Nic.  Since we're talking about "perfect" casting, I envision Marcone as a different body type than Oldman.  Stockier, more beefy, broader shoulders.  (Not that Oldman couldn't play the part, as I'm sure he could, but in my head he doesn't look the part.)
I always envision Nic as late 30's early 40's.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 12, 2012, 07:49:03 PM
Me too.
I think David Tennant could pull it off, I really do.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 12, 2012, 07:56:33 PM
Me too.
I think David Tennant could pull it off, I really do.
For those who don't want to read back. Jeffery Donovan would make a great Nic.

I wouldn't oppose Tennant.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: rac3r_x on July 16, 2012, 07:59:17 PM
Actually I would like to see them use new actors, or relative unknowns.  Maybe a few cameos for established actors.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jackylhunter on July 18, 2012, 01:46:25 AM
I know I'm coming to the party late, but I think of David Morse, when I think of Michael.
-Jackylhunter
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 18, 2012, 02:00:41 AM
I know I'm coming to the party late, but I think of David Morse, when I think of Michael.
-Jackylhunter
Actually, that's not bad.  I saw him do something where he was humble good guy. 

I know he doesn't fit the profile, but when I think of Michael, Christopher Judge comes to mind.  He has the height and build, and in the later episodes of SG:SG1 and SG:A, he plays a wiser and mature Teal'c.  I could see him playing the faithful, supportive, and humbly confident Michael Carpenter.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on July 18, 2012, 02:04:07 AM
I know I'm coming to the party late, but I think of David Morse, when I think of Michael.
-Jackylhunter

Ugh, personally, I don't like him. He looks evil. In my mind, he could play Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: SassyTime on July 21, 2012, 07:13:29 PM
I always thought of Eb like Uncle Jesse in the Dukes of Hazzard.

http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/the-dukes-of-hazzard/photo-gallery-detail/EP00001365/291606 (http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/the-dukes-of-hazzard/photo-gallery-detail/EP00001365/291606)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: shades of grey on July 21, 2012, 08:43:45 PM
I'm sure we've said Daniel Craig for Kinkaid, haven't we?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 21, 2012, 11:51:01 PM
I've found Molly. (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1628079/)

I found a better Molly. (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2829369/)

I'm sure we've said Daniel Craig for Kinkaid, haven't we?

We have not.  And we will not.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 22, 2012, 02:30:04 AM
I found a better Molly. (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2829369/)
Ugh, gross moment there when I considered Fillion for Harry with this.  Almost yacked. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 22, 2012, 03:33:57 PM
Ugh, gross moment there when I considered Fillion for Harry with this.  Almost yacked.

If they can act out Master/Apprentice as well as they do Father/Daughter, maybe I'd change my opinion of Fillion.  As it is, I still don't think he's right for  Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on July 22, 2012, 09:11:56 PM
Since I'm too lazy to go back through the thread and see who's been suggested, and because I don't remember who I've posted, I'm just gonna post my entire casting list. Putting it behind a spoiler tag because otherwise the post would be really long.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 22, 2012, 09:51:04 PM
Since I'm too lazy to go back through the thread and see who's been suggested, and because I don't remember who I've posted, I'm just gonna post my entire casting list. Putting it behind a spoiler tag because otherwise the post would be really long.
(click to show/hide)

1)  You mis-pictured your Viggo-for-Nico.  You doubled up on Bill.
2)  Luccio 2.0 is described as a blonde co-ed, if I recall correctly.
3)  Lots of great choices.  Not much I disagree with.  Other than Pearlman as Cowl.  Pearlman would make a better Erlking.  Cowl's sounds are synonymous with a snake, with a warbling modulation that many assume is due to Fomor gills.  Pearlman would be better suited as a deep resonate character.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 23, 2012, 12:04:02 AM
I have redecided my decision for Nic.

Christian Bale would make a great Nic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on July 23, 2012, 12:19:11 AM
1)  You mis-pictured your Viggo-for-Nico.  You doubled up on Bill.
2)  Luccio 2.0 is described as a blonde co-ed, if I recall correctly.
3)  Lots of great choices.  Not much I disagree with.  Other than Pearlman as Cowl.  Pearlman would make a better Erlking.  Cowl's sounds are synonymous with a snake, with a warbling modulation that many assume is due to Fomor gills.  Pearlman would be better suited as a deep resonate character.
Alright, fixed the picture for Nicodemus. Thanks for letting me know.

As for 2, I think Luccio 2.0/Corpsetaker has dark hair. And to be honest, part of the reason I chose Zoe Saldana was just because I like her as an actress and I think she's awesome. I'm not always concerned with being 100% accurate to the books with casting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 23, 2012, 12:56:02 AM
Alright, fixed the picture for Nicodemus. Thanks for letting me know.

As for 2, I think Luccio 2.0/Corpsetaker has dark hair. And to be honest, part of the reason I chose Zoe Saldana was just because I like her as an actress and I think she's awesome. I'm not always concerned with being 100% accurate to the books with casting.

I like Zoe too, and I think she's talented enough to look young but have the weight of experience that Luccio would require. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on July 23, 2012, 06:08:16 AM
I'd actually pictured Ron Perlman in heavy makeup for the earlking, but I think your choice for original Luccio is spot on. The tone it would set for the character, especially in the introductory bar scene in dead beat...

audience would just be thinking "aw hell yes, Ripley is gonna kick some necromancer @$$!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on July 23, 2012, 01:22:06 PM
The problem with all these well-known actors is that, given the number of references to pop-culure in the series, it'd kinda stretch credibility that Harry wouldn't at least comment on the resemblance. They'd have to at least look different, or it would get ridiculous.

And I've said it before and I'll say it again, Summer Glau for Luccio 2.0. Read her physical description (from the RPG, but it's a compilation of the Books' descriptions): long, lush, curling brown hair, a sweetly pretty face, killer dimples, and nice curves. She has a Cupid’s bow mouth, a squared-off chin, and dark flashing eyes. She is 5’4” and gives off a vibe of grace and strength united.

Now look at a picture:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1717538560/nm1132359 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1717538560/nm1132359)

It's almost as if Jim had an actress in mind...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: PerfectVeil on July 24, 2012, 03:23:19 AM
Since the first time I read the description of Lucio 2.0 ....."long, lush, curling brown hair, a sweetly pretty face, killer dimples, and nice curve"

(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm389644544/nm0004989)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on July 24, 2012, 03:28:42 PM
I was watching Alpha's the other night and I though put a blonde wig on her and she would make a great Murphy. Then I thought, wait a minute she is Murphy. Nothing wrong with Valerie Cruz avec blonde chapeau.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on July 24, 2012, 09:20:15 PM
Quote
The problem with all these well-known actors is that, given the number of references to pop-culure in the series, it'd kinda stretch credibility that Harry wouldn't at least comment on the resemblance. They'd have to at least look different, or it would get ridiculous.

or maybe just play the alternate reality deja vu reaction card.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiDlQgW1wO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiDlQgW1wO0)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on July 25, 2012, 02:54:57 AM
Any votes on where Jim should have his cameo(s)? My first vote would be for the mail carrier from Storm Front. He's the very first character we ever see in the series.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 25, 2012, 02:55:59 AM
Any votes on where Jim should have his cameo(s)? My first vote would be for the mail carrier from Storm Front. He's the very first character we ever see in the series.
That would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on July 25, 2012, 02:57:13 AM
In TV, he has been a coroner, IIRC But the mailman cameo sounds like a fun idea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on July 25, 2012, 10:57:38 AM
In TV, he has been a coroner, IIRC But the mailman cameo sounds like a fun idea.
Yes, especially as Terry Pratchett was the mailman at the end of Going Postal.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on July 25, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
I like the idea of him being the guy who says 'damn' after harry throws the Loup-Garou through two buildings. Or he could be, y'know, Uriel. Or God.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on July 25, 2012, 06:06:56 PM
I finally saw the Conan movie from 2011 and kept thinking Thomas when I saw Jason Momoa.  He may be too big and not "pretty" enough for Thomas but not too bad in my book.

(http://film-book.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/jason-momoa-conan-2011-1-e1264188033702.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 25, 2012, 07:25:14 PM
I finally saw the Conan movie from 2011 and kept thinking Thomas when I saw Jason Momoa.  He may be too big and not "pretty" enough for Thomas but not too bad in my book.

(http://film-book.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/jason-momoa-conan-2011-1-e1264188033702.jpg)

Jason Momoa is 6'5, naturally tan due to his paternal Hawaiian heritage, and .  Thomas is barely 6' with an updraft, and is supposed to be fairly pale if I recall correctly.

That being said, I enjoyed Momoa's work on SG:A, and found the new Conan standard but enjoyable.  I think Momoa has some talent, and would love to see him in a DF role.  But it'd have to be one where they could take advantage of his size and strenght.  Honestly, my first thought for him was Korrick.  I know its not a big role so far, but he might make another appearance, as I don't think he died in SK, and we've got more Fae coverage coming up shortly.

Summer Knight-pg.194
Quote
On the far side of the glade, smoke rose from stones piled into the shape of an oven or a forge, and a broad-chested man, shirtless, bearded, heavy-browed and fierce-looking, stood on the other side of it, wielding a smith’s hammer in regular rhythm. He stepped

Just add beard and slap his torso on a CGI horse, and we've got ourselves a Centaur.

(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4926512794632915&id=0b61fc7684669b53654e59379c589d19)  (http://www.worldoffemale.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/jason-momoa-shirtless-14.jpg)  (http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4507010495087377&id=30617b5e6d5c6c35bdc607821a90561e)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on July 25, 2012, 08:06:36 PM
YES!! Centaur Momoa is approved!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on July 25, 2012, 08:12:44 PM
I didn't realize he was 6'5".  Holy cow.  Yes, I would agree that he is better suited as a centaur.   :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 25, 2012, 09:35:52 PM
I claim him as Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mid_life_crisis on July 25, 2012, 10:08:45 PM
I love Geller as Murph.  Butt kicking cheerleader for the win.
I had a flash of Jeri Ryan as Charity, but I have this image of Charity having a little more rounded edges.
She could certainly pull off punching Harry in the jaw and knocking him down.  I could definitely see her gearing up in chain mail to go after Molly and she's old enough now that she has the kind of wear lines living with a Knight of the Cross would give you while still being hot enough to make Harry figure out where Molly gets it from.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 25, 2012, 11:44:57 PM
I claim him as Kincaid.

But Kincaid has blond hair.  Blond hair on a Hawaiian = Not Buying It.  Besides, isn't Kincaid supposed to be of eastern European ancestry?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 25, 2012, 11:54:59 PM
But Kincaid has blond hair.  Blond hair on a Hawaiian = Not Buying It.  Besides, isn't Kincaid supposed to be of eastern European ancestry?
  I honestly have only one mental description for Kincaid. Intimidating. All else matters not.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mid_life_crisis on July 26, 2012, 12:07:30 AM
  I honestly have only one mental description for Kincaid. Intimidating. All else matters not.
Jason Statham
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 26, 2012, 12:30:37 AM
  I honestly have only one mental description for Kincaid. Intimidating. All else matters not.

See, I tried to say about 150 pages ago that Colin Farrell is how I always picture Kincaid.  Lean muscle, dark look, etc.  (He'd just need a little more tone)
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrZtewLkXRBsyUeJpJuq085dqZhwok1E7LsxvEbUls9TOsyczC)
And folks were like "No, no, Colin Farrell can't be Kincaid, he doesn't have blond hair." 
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4592965669290705&id=1ccc363ece98f0a2f16c1da50343c31d)
And I was like, "We can give him blond hair."
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT9jAsDn3GS6HTowgDE27-nibowlGAd4rIj3vSZwpgDUnKCrn1P)
And people were like "No, don't cast for fake hair color when there are others with the right hair color."
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4592965669290705&id=1ccc363ece98f0a2f16c1da50343c31d)


Jason Statham
Hmm...
(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4607766118990999&id=439cbcc84ae700179288182a98f156b5)
No.  He doesn't have ANY hair.
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4592965669290705&id=1ccc363ece98f0a2f16c1da50343c31d)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 26, 2012, 12:36:02 AM
I like collin Farrell for kincaid. Something silly like hair color doesn't matter. Except for Harry Murphy and Molly
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on July 26, 2012, 12:50:13 AM
For me is not. Colin Farrell is just wrong.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mid_life_crisis on July 26, 2012, 02:09:10 AM
Forget the hair.  We need someone vaguely Eastern European looking who can play dangerous.  Statham fits the bill.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 26, 2012, 02:41:44 AM
Forget the hair.  We need someone vaguely Eastern European looking who can play dangerous.  Statham fits the bill.

For the record, Statham was born in Derbyshire, UK, which is only 203 miles closer to Eastern Europe than Dublin, IRE, where Farrell was born.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 26, 2012, 02:45:04 AM
I feel like Kincaid should at least have hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on July 26, 2012, 02:51:11 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4QzPYR-LpLA/TAApjT6C_yI/AAAAAAAAE3s/wpTDdiPLjwA/s400/revolver4.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 26, 2012, 02:53:19 AM
I feel like Kincaid should at least have hair.
I concur.

By the way, presuming you've seen TDKR, you should change/add your sig quote to his line.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4QzPYR-LpLA/TAApjT6C_yI/AAAAAAAAE3s/wpTDdiPLjwA/s400/revolver4.jpg)

Real hair. 
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4592965669290705&id=1ccc363ece98f0a2f16c1da50343c31d)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on July 26, 2012, 02:56:33 AM
Well, it was the best I could find  :-[

I still think we should give a position to vinnie Jones. I was thinking Hendricks, but he could be Kinkaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mid_life_crisis on July 26, 2012, 12:10:16 PM
For the record, Statham was born in Derbyshire, UK, which is only 203 miles closer to Eastern Europe than Dublin, IRE, where Farrell was born.
Doesn't matter where he was born.  He looks like he could be Russian mob and Hollywood can do wonders for hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: HateEgo on July 26, 2012, 02:09:08 PM
Jeffrey Donovan is my choice for Harry.  He's just 6ft tall which is about 7in short of being book accurate but hes got that handsome with out being pretty look and his character in Burn Notice is similar although better trained and more educated than Harry.  Plus, Jared Padalecki is a solid Thomas Raith and he looks like he could be Donovan's half-brother.  Jared is 6ft 4in but I can live with minor height differences from the books.  Other cast selections would be Kristen Bell for Karin Murphy. Eliza Dushku for Susan Rodriguez.  David Tennant is my Waldo Butters.  I have other choices but tell me what you guys think.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on July 26, 2012, 02:11:11 PM
They ar quite good, but I am with most people here about Thomas. He is Matt Bomer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 26, 2012, 03:21:05 PM
They ar quite good, but I am with most people here about Thomas. He is Matt Bomer.
Agreed.  And I never thought Id really settle on a Harry, but I really think Michael Fassbender fits it very well, both in terms of look and of acting range.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: HateEgo on July 26, 2012, 07:09:44 PM
Matt Boomer is a really good choice for Thomas.  Michael Fassbender feels like a Marcone to me or Nichodemus.  Anna Silk would be a good Lara Raith.  Zoe Saldana for Tera West.  Charlize Theron, Olivia Wilde, and Emma Stone could play any variation of fairy Queens.  Mila Kunis for Justine.  I could go on and on but i can only match them to the closest actor/actress I know about.  Hugo Weaving and Michael Chiklis I just want to be in it somewhere.  Hugo for Merlin and Chiklis for Carmichael is i had to pick right now.  Only Wes Studi can play Listens-to-Wind. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 26, 2012, 07:23:36 PM
Ive been leaning toward Hugh Laurie for the Merlin, and Ive been stuck on Ed Quinn for Marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 26, 2012, 08:14:30 PM
Jeffrey Donovan is my choice for Harry.

Too late, he is understudy for Nicodemous.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 26, 2012, 09:05:38 PM
I have redecided my decision for Nic.

Christian Bale would make a great Nic.

No.  No, no no, and more no.

Jason Statham

Try Christian Kane.  He has the hair for it.

David Tennant is my Waldo Butters.

There are those here that would kill you for that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on July 26, 2012, 09:20:57 PM
No.  No, no no, and more no.

As he said ^
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on July 26, 2012, 09:43:20 PM
David Krumholtz is Butters, as has been stated. I concur on Eva Green for Lara, although I think Keeley Hawes could pull it off, too (she's more of a Tv-actor).

Also, I can't be the only one who pictures Christina Henderickson (sp?) with a british accent as Lea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 26, 2012, 11:03:41 PM
David Krumholtz is Butters, as has been stated. I concur on Eva Green for Lara, although I think Keeley Hawes could pull it off, too (she's more of a Tv-actor).

Also, I can't be the only one who pictures Christina Henderickson (sp?) with a british accent as Lea.

Nope, not the only one.  I've posted pics of Christina Hendricks for Lea several times previously.  I've also posted Famke Janssen and Klodi Monsoon as well.  Depends on my mood.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: HateEgo on July 26, 2012, 11:44:03 PM
Jay Baruchel could do Waldo Butters.  Oh, David Tennant is just how I picture him in my head, though much younger.  Eva Green is more a Bianca to me.  But seriously? Christina Hendricks for Lea?  To me the Fae are more than boobs. (no offense)  I like the actresses but I just don't see that "otherworldly" beauty in them.  I wouldn't complain though. 

Chlöe Grace Moretz for Molly would be a great fit.  Richard Karn is how I picture Michael Carpenter, though put some muscle and a beard on Alexis Denisof and i'm okay. 

has anyone suggested Guy Pierce for Harry?  He could be just about anyone though, lol
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 27, 2012, 03:25:44 PM
Terry O'Quinn is Mac.


I really want to see Erica Cerra in there somewhere, she has the sharp beauty of something not quite human, but I dont know who she would (http://fit:http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g318/wingsunseen/thumbnail.jpg)

Not Lea, but maybe Maeve, Aurora, Lara (or another Wamp).  Id say even the Countess, but i picture her with a more mature look, being older that written history and all
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on July 27, 2012, 03:29:24 PM
Terry O'Quinn is Mac.


I really want to see Erica Cerra in there somewhere, she has the sharp beauty of something not quite human, but I dont know who she would (http://fit:http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g318/wingsunseen/thumbnail.jpg)

Not Lea, but maybe Maeve, Aurora, Lara (or another Wamp).  Id say even the Countess, but i picture her with a more mature look, being older that written history and all

I think there's word of someone that JB's first choice for Susan would be Erica Cerra.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on July 27, 2012, 04:05:02 PM
I could see Erica cerra as Susan, but I think she might fit better as Bianca or Arianna.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 27, 2012, 09:10:00 PM
Erica Durance as Susan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 27, 2012, 09:23:33 PM
I think there's word of someone that JB's first choice for Susan would be Erica Cerra.
She could do it, at least pre-vamp, though Im not sure how well she could pull off /primal/...
For me though, Susan is Rosario Dawson:
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Erica Durance as Susan.
  She might be able to pull it off, but considering Jim said he killed her off in GP to prevent her from becoming Lois Lane, Im not sure the universe could handle the irony...  :o

On the other hand, the same woman played both Lana Lang and Martha Kent, so maybe reality can handle it   :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 27, 2012, 09:30:05 PM
  She might be able to pull it off, but considering Jim said he killed her off in GP to prevent her from becoming Lois Lane, Im not sure the universe could handle the irony...  :o

On the other hand, the same woman played both Lana Lang and Martha Kent, so maybe reality can handle it   :P

Alright, who is the chick from Dollhouse then. That's who I mean. Not that Erica Durance wouldn't be good.  :o
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on July 27, 2012, 09:30:54 PM
Eliza Dushku?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 27, 2012, 09:43:56 PM
Alright, who is the chick from Dollhouse then. That's who I mean. Not that Erica Durance wouldn't be good.  :o
you mean:
Eliza Dushku
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 27, 2012, 10:14:32 PM
I like her for Susan/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 27, 2012, 10:25:13 PM
Anyone have a good morgan? Ive been drawing a blank on him, mostly because I have trouble not picturing him as that scary black dude from the series.

He needs to be older, powerful seeming, outweigh harry by 100 lbs of  muscle,  be able to pull off a pony tail and near rabid fanaticism. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 27, 2012, 10:31:38 PM
Anyone have a good morgan? Ive been drawing a blank on him, mostly because I have trouble not picturing him as that scary black dude from the series.

He needs to be older, powerful seeming, outweigh harry by 100 lbs of  muscle,  be able to pull off a pony tail and near rabid fanaticism. 
Sounds like Liam Neeson/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on July 27, 2012, 10:35:22 PM
Harry said he looks like a thinner Sean Connery, I think. Liam Neeson could do well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on July 27, 2012, 10:40:06 PM
Harry said he looks like a thinner Sean Connery, I think. Liam Neeson could do well.
He is badass enough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on July 27, 2012, 11:58:46 PM
Liam Neeson beefed up, so he doesn't look like qui-gon. Also, Dushku would be good for Susan
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 28, 2012, 12:27:13 AM
I need to see him in a movie where he is angry to the point of irrational rage, but I definitely think he could pull it off quite well
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on July 28, 2012, 02:49:59 PM
I haven't seen Taken, but that seems to be the kind of thing you're looking for.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on July 28, 2012, 03:06:31 PM
Harry said he looks like a thinner Sean Connery, I think. Liam Neeson could do well.

Earlier in the thread I posted that I always pictured Morgan the way Connery looked in Medicine Man. Neeson does seem like a great choice now though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on July 28, 2012, 10:51:34 PM
Clancy Brown will always be Morgan, as far as I'm concerned. I mean, he knows how to swordfight (kinda) from Highlander.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zohak on July 29, 2012, 11:14:04 AM
Daniel Cudmore  would be a good choice because of his height 6, 8  plus
being a stuntman and actor. for Harry Dresden
Daniel Cudmore
http://www.eclipsemovie.org/new-smokin-hot-pics-of-daniel-cudmore/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1214436/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on July 29, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
Daniel Cudmore  would be a good choice because of his height 6, 8  plus
being a stuntman and actor.
Daniel Cudmore
http://www.eclipsemovie.org/new-smokin-hot-pics-of-daniel-cudmore/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1214436/

Wait for Morgan? Wha?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warpig789 on July 29, 2012, 07:56:31 PM
Has anyone mentioned Eric Roberts for Marcone? He's who i've always pictured him as.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on July 29, 2012, 08:00:28 PM
Don't know.
I think Roberts isn't quite right myself.
I see more Chris Meloni - well built and can be as menacing as all get out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mid_life_crisis on July 30, 2012, 12:13:29 AM
I can't think of his name but what about the actor who played the elf in Lord of the Rings for Thomas?
He's pretty enough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Magnus on July 30, 2012, 12:46:26 AM
Orlando Bloom ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mid_life_crisis on July 30, 2012, 02:10:35 AM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on July 30, 2012, 07:06:58 PM
Eh, not really. I could see Sean Maher pulling it off, but I'd prefer him as Lloyd Slate, just for the contrast between that and the role he's most known in geek circles for.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: warden_fernandez on August 01, 2012, 03:25:25 PM
I found a better Molly. (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2829369/)

Heck yeah...she would be awesome looking like Frankenhooker  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on August 01, 2012, 06:09:53 PM
Since I realise I haven't posted a comprehensive castlist, I'll post the actors I have decided on. All images are spoilertagged.

Harry: Many have been mentioned. Blackthorne is a strong contender, and while Fillion could definitely pull off the attitude, he just doesn't *look* like Harry. As of yet, I've not found an actor I'm completely stisfied with for Dresden.

EDIT: Just thought of an actor who, while not exactly how I picture Harry, is a lot closer than any of the others: Enver Gjokaj. He's close physically, and, while I haven't seen him in a role that really resembles Harry, I have no doubt he could act the hell out of the part. He's an amazing actor. In Dollhouse, he plays twelve different characters. Twelve (technically one, with repeated mind-and-memory wipes/swaps). Perfectly. Including a woman. If anyone has acting chops, it's him.

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Murphy: Sarah Michelle Gellar. I mean, COME ON.

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Marcone: As with Harry, I've not come across an actor who just jumped out and said 'I'M MARCONE', but Marsters could certainly do it. (I prefer him as the voice of Bob, though)

Molly: Leven Rambin (she was Glimmer in The Hunger Games and an angel in Wizards of Waverly place, but I came across her Terminator: the Sarah Connor Chronicles). Molly C Quinn has been suggested, but she's just not how I picture Molly.

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Thomas: There have been a lot of good ones, but, depending on his American accent, I'd contend Richard Armitage (BBC's Robin Hood, Spooks, The Hobbit) would be an  AMAZING Thomas (or, failing that, a good Lord Raith). He's good at darkness.

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Susan: A lot have been mentioned. For me though, Valerie Cruz all the way (it was the DF part she auditioned for, and she's read the books!).

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Failing that, Eliza Dushku could definitely do it:

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Morgan: As has been said, Liam Neeson.

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Michael: Again, I haven't found an actor that just clicks for Michael, but Alexis Denisoff would be good. (not the best picture, but I couldn't find many)

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Charity: Miranda Otto. I realised when rereading PG that she was EXACTLY how I pictured Charity. And we know she can do the action, becouse, hey, EOWYN. (She's smiling more than Charity in the pictures)

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Butters: David Krumholtz. He's just so... Butters. Go watch his part in Serenity and tell me that's not Butters.

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Speaking of Serenity, Luccio 2.0: Summer Glau. Action, crazy (necessary for Corpsetaker), tearjerking and looks in one neat package. Alternatively, she could do Murphy, with blonde hair.

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Lara Raith: Eva Green. Another Case where, when it was suggested, I realised the actress was how I pictured the character.

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Lea: Christina Hendricks (Mad Men). Yet another instance when the actress was exactly as I pictured the character.

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Lash/Lasciel: (Because they should really have the same actress) Amy Acker. Mentioned before, and doesn't fit the description, but my god can that woman act. Go watch Dollhouse s1 e11. Seriously. If not Lash, then I could see her as either of the Faerie Ladies.

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Alternatively, Dichen Lachman would make a really good Lash.

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Nicodemus: Benedict Cumberbatch. He looks roughly like the description in DM, and he's got Nic's ice-coldness down pat. Put a grey streak in his hair, and he's Nic.

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Bianca: It was said in another thread, I think, but Morena Baccarin.

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Lloyd Slate: Sean Maher, purely for the Nerd reaction: hey, it's Simon Tam, that's coo-WAIT WHAT'S HE DOING!? ( I reckon he could pull Thomas off, too).

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That's all I got for now. I'll post more when they come to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mid_life_crisis on August 01, 2012, 07:22:20 PM
I'm going to seriously show my age, but for Molly I always pictured a really young Linda Evans, circa "The Big Valley".  Now that's a "brick nordic supermodel".
Problem is I can't think of any current actresses with those kinds of classic looks and a killer, statuesque body.
I always picture Molly as the kind of woman you could drop into any century and guys would trip over themselves, as opposed to so many of the actresses that are considered to be hot these days simply because their particular look is in style at the moment.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on August 01, 2012, 07:33:31 PM
Wait, what!? Googled it, and I don't really see it. She looks... kinda posh-english (not knocking it, I'm English, but it's not how I picture Molly).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mid_life_crisis on August 01, 2012, 08:34:05 PM
As popular as the show was, it's surprisingly hard to find a good picture of her when she was young.  If you found one from the Dynasty years, I completely agree.

..and she had that awful hair in The Big Valley...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 01, 2012, 08:45:07 PM
Since I realise I haven't posted a comprehensive castlist, I'll post the actors I have decided on. All images are spoilertagged.

...

That's all I got for now. I'll post more when they come to me.

Wow.  Big Whedon fan, huh?  8 of 16 from Buffy/Angel/Firefly.  And that's not counting Marsters-as-Bob, Marsters-as-Marcone, or Fillion-as-Harry. Or Krumholtz-as-Butters(was in the movie Serenity).  I've never watched Dollhouse, so maybe some of the others are from there?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on August 01, 2012, 09:01:41 PM
Kinda. More that those are most of the American TV I've been exposed to. I actually came across Krumholtz in Numb3rs, though. That said, Gjokaj isn't my *perfect* choice for Harry, but he and possibly Tahmoh Penikett are the only ones that have come close for me. Gellar as Murph is pretty obvious - Jim's practically describing her in Murph's introduction - same with Glau. Sean Maher is just an idle thing - I'm sure there are *much* better choices for Slate, I just like the idea of fans squeeing at seeing him, then realising what Slate is like. Dusku is only in there because someone else mentioned her.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: randeedoo on August 02, 2012, 04:08:14 AM
Murphy: Sarah Michelle Gellar. I mean, COME ON.

Did you ever watch Alcatraz when it was on. It was one of the 2012 mid-season shows (didn't get pickup for a 2nd season). The actress Sarah Jones played one of the main characters,  SFPD homicide detective Rebecca Madsen. Anyway, when I saw her the first thing I thought of was Murphy. She just fit my mental picture of Murph, short, blonde & tough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on August 02, 2012, 01:31:38 PM
Quote
he actress Sarah Jones played one of the main characters,  SFPD homicide detective Rebecca Madsen. Anyway, when I saw her the first thing I thought of was Murphy. She just fit my mental picture of Murph, short, blonde & tough.
That makes two of us.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on August 04, 2012, 02:16:09 AM
Anyone have a good morgan? Ive been drawing a blank on him, mostly because I have trouble not picturing him as that scary black dude from the series.

He needs to be older, powerful seeming, outweigh harry by 100 lbs of  muscle,  be able to pull off a pony tail and near rabid fanaticism.

I think the fact that JB himself said he pictured Clancy Brown as Morgan should be the end of that.

The perfect Harry would ahve been the younger (Xena era) Bruce Campbell.  We just have to figure out who's the closest to Bruce.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on August 04, 2012, 02:52:35 AM
A Firefly era Nathan Fillion would have been a good harry. But not now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 05, 2012, 04:36:42 AM
I think the fact that JB himself said he pictured Clancy Brown as Morgan should be the end of that.
Clancy Brown is a damn good one.  I had been leaning toward Denis Leary lately, but I wasn't sure he had the physically intimidating presence that an Earth Magic specialist like Morgan would have....   But the Kurgan certainly can
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on August 06, 2012, 01:01:09 AM
Plus, the older Clancy gets the meaner he looks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on August 10, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
I just had a thought.  How about Patrick Stewart as Langtry?  Capt. Picard as a badguy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on August 10, 2012, 02:45:27 PM
Already been suggested, and the RPG does depict him as bald. I prefer Bill Nighy for the role, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 10, 2012, 02:50:32 PM
Already been suggested, and the RPG does depict him as bald. I prefer Bill Nighy for the role, though.
Im still leaning toward Hugh Laurie
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on August 10, 2012, 08:09:55 PM
Im still leaning toward Hugh Laurie
I think Hugh Laurie could make a good Nicodemous. If I would be willing to see a little older.

My number one choice for that is still Jeffery Donovan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 10, 2012, 11:12:40 PM
Already been suggested, and the RPG does depict him as bald. I prefer Bill Nighy for the role, though.

Which is weird, because the book clearly describes Langtry as having the traditional wizard look, with flowing white hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CapnCowl on August 10, 2012, 11:17:57 PM
I've always pictured Hugh Laurie as Grevane.

I like Jeffery Donovan as Nicodemus. He's got the chops and can definitely pull off "menacing bad guy".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on August 10, 2012, 11:57:50 PM
As I've said many times, Benedict Cumberbatch IS Nicodemus for me - he's got that cold, calculating vibe down pat in Sherlock - he'd just have to be a little politer, and if his reported role in Star Trek 2 or whatever they're calling it is correct, he can do action as well.

Having watched The Hunger Games, I'd say Donald Sutherland would make a good Ebenezar or Langtry, and the guy who plays Haymitch could easily do Kinkaid, although I think he might even make a good Harry. This gets a bit weird when one considers Leven Rambin for molly, but I'm standing by that one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mid_life_crisis on August 11, 2012, 01:09:52 AM
I found Molly.  As is so often the case, she is hiding in a waterfront town working as the hostess at a restaurant.  I took one look and said to my wife, "Molly?"  It took a second for her to figure out what I meant, but she agreed completely once she did.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on August 14, 2012, 06:24:31 PM
New suggestion for Morgan:

(http://img.poptower.com/pic-54233/sean-bean.jpg?d=600)

No problem picturing Sean Bean as a sword-wielding badass.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Magnus on August 14, 2012, 06:26:53 PM
typecasting him, in a he must die role, again? ;p
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on August 14, 2012, 06:58:52 PM
typecasting him, in a he must die role, again? ;p

Yeah, but not for a few seasons/movies; considering the length of each book, I'd do shorter seasons, each covering 3 books - 1st SF, FM, GP, 2nd SK, DM, BR, 3rd DB, PG, WN, 4th SmF, TC, Changes (those last 100 pages, from when they go to chicken pizza, would make a HELL of a season finale), continuing on. Thus, 4 seasons 'til Morgan dies.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on August 15, 2012, 09:25:36 PM
Also, Morgan becomes, if possible, MORE awesome and threatening if you read his dialogue in Sean Bean's voice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 16, 2012, 01:39:41 AM
Also, Morgan becomes, if possible, MORE awesome and threatening if you read his dialogue in Sean Bean's voice.
I'm still going with Clancy Brown. Because KURGAN. And I'm sorry, but Clancy's voice is way more threatening than Sean Bean's
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 16, 2012, 02:51:07 AM
What are you guys thinking for Kincaid?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on August 16, 2012, 03:08:51 AM
I've always pictured Bradley Cooper as Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kacowkachow on August 16, 2012, 03:25:51 AM
The combination of his roles in A History of Violence and Eastern Promises has solidified Viggo Mortensen as the pick for Kincaid for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on August 16, 2012, 08:27:43 AM
Eh, I prefer him as Sir Stuart. Woody Harrelson (sp?) would make a great Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 16, 2012, 12:02:52 PM
The combination of his roles in A History of Violence and Eastern Promises has solidified Viggo Mortensen as the pick for Kincaid for me.
He would certainly do well in the part.  I think the picture in my head is closer to Liev Schreiber though
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 17, 2012, 07:34:04 AM
Random 'Oooh she's hot, she could be Molly' casting of the day:

The girl from the new MB20 She's So Mean video, only with blonde hair (or maybe psychedelic, depending on the book)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8WLa6umgdw

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/MB20SSMgirl_Molly.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: railrun on August 17, 2012, 07:37:18 AM
has anyone seen the tv show chase i think that the lead Kelli Giddish would be a great murphy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 18, 2012, 11:26:45 PM
I have finally found a good Ramirez:
Tyler Posey, aka Scott from Teen Wolf. He's got the ethnicity (Posey is half-mexican), and he can be a cocky badass when he needs to, but he can also be a dork.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 19, 2012, 12:38:34 AM
I have finally found a good Ramirez:
Tyler Posey, aka Scott from Teen Wolf. He's got the ethnicity (Posey is half-mexican), and he can be a cocky badass when he needs to, but he can also be a dork.
He's also, quite literally, the worst actor on a show thats supposed to be about him.  Its painful to watch him on-screen.

On a related subject, I previously suggested Colton Haynes for one of Michael's kids, but he could also probably pull off Billy Borden.  Although if we wait long enough, he would be old enough to pull off a pretty bad-ass Kincaid.
 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 22, 2012, 12:14:09 AM
He's also, quite literally, the worst actor on a show thats supposed to be about him.  Its painful to watch him on-screen.

I don't think he's that bad. It's just that the rest of the cast is really good, so he looks worse by comparison.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 22, 2012, 12:45:19 AM
I don't think he's that bad. It's just that the rest of the cast is really good, so he looks worse by comparison.
I have to say, I think Dylan O'Brien has done a great job with his role.  I think his performances are better than the rest.  All the others at least have moments where they look like they're struggling with a weak script or character development. 

On a side note: it surprises me how short everyone is on that show. All the main male characters are 2+ inches under 6'.  Dylan's apparently the tallest at 5'10".  Tyler Posey is apparently 5'9".  One site said Tyler Hoechlin is 6', but another site said he's really 5'7".  Keahu Kahuanui looks like he towers over everyone, and he's 6'.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 22, 2012, 12:57:32 AM
Random inspired casting, based on looks alone.

Grimalkin is supposed to be a malk.  Traditionally, a grimalkin is supposed to be a female cat.  But in SK, Harry refers to Grimalkin as 'Charlie', commonly a masculine name, and Billy refers to Grimalkin as 'he'.  Based on that interaction, I'm assuming Grim is a male.  And I've always pictured Grim looking like the Cheshire cat.  Mostly because of the mysterious appearance in SK.

So... Cheshire Cat
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fCjGtPl9Zxk/T7_tG6JYQEI/AAAAAAAAG5s/7aUYVDFhOzk/s1600/cheshire-cat.jpg)

So... Grimaklin = Tim Curry
(http://stier-leven.freeblog.hu/files/tim_curry.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on August 22, 2012, 10:43:59 AM
Or Tim Curry=HWWB, but I prefer Anthony Head for that role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on August 22, 2012, 11:34:12 PM
Or Tim Curry=HWWB, but I prefer Anthony Head for that role.

Nah, Anthony Head is Father Forthill for me. HWWB is voiced by Gabriel Wolf, who did the voice of The Beast in the Doctor Who episodes "The Impossible Planet" and "The Satan Pit."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 23, 2012, 01:51:43 AM
Nah, Anthony Head is Father Forthill for me. HWWB is voiced by Gabriel Wolf, who did the voice of The Beast in the Doctor Who episodes "The Impossible Planet" and "The Satan Pit."

I think Father Forthill is supposed to be short, isn't he?  And wiry, maybe?  Anthony Steward Head is 6'1, and last I saw of him in Merlin, not wiry. 

Maybe I'm wrong about the Forthill description though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 23, 2012, 06:55:51 PM
I've got my newest cast list.

Harry: Tim Curry
Susan: Tim Curry
Molly: Tim Curry
Thomas: Tim Curry
Ramirez: Tim Curry
Merlin: Tim Curry
Lara: Tim Curry
Lord Raith: Tim Curry
...
...
...

;D

What are you guys thinking for Kincaid?

(http://blog.newsok.com/bamsblog/files/2008/12/leverage_christian-kane-6_ph-michael-muller.jpg)

(http://digitaljournal.com/img/4/3/7/7/3/5/i/7/2/9/o/Leverage_Christian_20Kane_Ph-Michael_20Muller.jpg)

Christian Kane has a face that says "I will f*** you up if you mess with me," and he's got the voice to match.  And no, this isn't the CK fan talki...okay, maybe it is.  I love hearing this man sing.  But the point still stands.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: castor833 on August 23, 2012, 09:25:04 PM
Tricia as Mab = Delicious
Judi and Helen would be perfect as the Mother queens. Too bad there isn't more than the one scene.

Kristen Bell is a beautiful woman but she isn't who I see when I picture Murphy.

I recommend Katheryn Winnick http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0935395/resumephotos (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0935395/resumephotos)
http://www.thecinemasource.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/killers-9-ashton_kutcher-katheryn_winnick.jpg (http://www.thecinemasource.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/killers-9-ashton_kutcher-katheryn_winnick.jpg)


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kacowkachow on August 23, 2012, 09:54:07 PM
A candidate for Ramirez: Rick Gonzalez


He has good comedic acting chops, and I've seen him in some smaller dramatic roles. I haven't seen anything where he has swagger exactly like Ramirez, but I'm fairly certain he could pull it off.

(http://i.imgur.com/4DYGY.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: raljamcar on August 23, 2012, 10:01:08 PM
i think i was joking when i cast my vote for harry... it says i chose Ryan Reynolds... i dont think i remember doing that though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on August 23, 2012, 11:28:21 PM
A candidate for Ramirez: Rick Gonzalez


He has good comedic acting chops, and I've seen him in some smaller dramatic roles. I haven't seen anything where he has swagger exactly like Ramirez, but I'm fairly certain he could pull it off.

(http://i.imgur.com/4DYGY.jpg)

He looks a little old, IMO. Ramirez is 20 in DB per WoJ, so he's 17 in his first appearance in SK. I considered Thomas Dekker for the role, but he's not hispanic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kacowkachow on August 24, 2012, 12:59:46 AM
He looks a little old, IMO. Ramirez is 20 in DB per WoJ, so he's 17 in his first appearance in SK. I considered Thomas Dekker for the role, but he's not hispanic.
I tend toward agreeing with you, in the next couple years they could probably swing it via good make up and costume design.

Do we know Ramirez actual age? All I remember in Dead Beat is that he is younger than Billy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on August 24, 2012, 12:56:58 PM
I still pick Joseph Gordon Levitt for Ramirez.  He's not hispanic, granted.  But he has very dark hair and a little time in the sun and he could pull it off.  And he still looks like he could play a teenager.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on August 24, 2012, 05:30:17 PM
I tend toward agreeing with you, in the next couple years they could probably swing it via good make up and costume design.

Do we know Ramirez actual age? All I remember in Dead Beat is that he is younger than Billy.

WoJ states he's 20 in DB. Since Billy's in grad school in the same book, this seems reasonable.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on August 24, 2012, 06:58:15 PM
Also, you about this guy for Marcone:

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Dark_Knight_bystander_2787.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on August 24, 2012, 11:46:11 PM
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I still pick Joseph Gordon Levitt for Ramirez.  He's not hispanic, granted.  But he has very dark hair and a little time in the sun and he could pull it off.  And he still looks like he could play a teenager.  I agree in part but it seems insulting to Hispanics not to have a major role played by someone of the same backround.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: kacowkachow on August 25, 2012, 01:12:44 AM
WoJ states he's 20 in DB. Since Billy's in grad school in the same book, this seems reasonable.
Missed that WoJ, so yeah, Gonzalez is probably too old at this point to swing that.

I agree in part but it seems insulting to Hispanics not to have a major role played by someone of the same backround.
Eh, my main concern would be having someone who can accurately play Ramirez. As long as they have the appropriate amount of swagger and sincerity it would be acceptable.

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: nicoleferrier on September 22, 2012, 03:17:03 AM
my picks

Viggo m for Harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: nicoleferrier on September 22, 2012, 03:18:21 AM
Elizabth Rohm for Murphy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: nicoleferrier on September 22, 2012, 03:19:18 AM
James Marsters for Thomas
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on September 22, 2012, 07:27:10 AM
my picks

Viggo m for Harry

Too short

Elizabth Rohm for Murphy

Too tall

James Marsters for Thomas

Too perfect
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on September 22, 2012, 08:27:45 PM
Too short

Too tall

Too perfect
If the magic of cinematography can make Tom Cruise not look anything resembling his actual height, they can do the same for others (or make them shorter).  I totally enjoy looking at Viggo Mortensen, but I haven't seen anything that leads me to think he has the needed snark.  (But I don't watch movies much, so maybe there's something out there?)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on September 22, 2012, 11:21:05 PM
If the magic of cinematography can make Tom Cruise not look anything resembling his actual height, they can do the same for others (or make them shorter).  I totally enjoy looking at Viggo Mortensen, but I haven't seen anything that leads me to think he has the needed snark.  (But I don't watch movies much, so maybe there's something out there?)

No, I've seen him try to do snark. It .... isn't pretty.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on September 22, 2012, 11:56:13 PM
How about Jennifer Lawrence for Elaine?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J95eu2gmq1U/T28UuN9nK0I/AAAAAAAAA40/MM9HGkh-xEg/s1600/Jennifer-Lawrence.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 22, 2012, 11:57:04 PM
I haven't seen acting, but she looks quite like I imagine her.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on September 23, 2012, 03:41:18 AM
I don't think she fits my mental image for acting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: nicoleferrier on September 24, 2012, 01:09:00 AM
I absolutely LOVE Nathan Fillion, but he is too broad and bulky to be Harry. He totally has the snark factor but he doesn't fit the lanky factor.

How about Brian Steele? he is actually 6'7'' and is lanky. I put Dresden hair on him in my head, I think he would work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on September 24, 2012, 03:12:25 AM
For Harry, why don't we just take the body of Jared Padalecki (sam winchester) and swap his brain/acting skills /snark with Jensen Ackles (Dean winchester) and voila! Harry actor.
 Or maybe if you smush them together enough they'll combine and form a freakishly tall super actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on September 24, 2012, 01:50:54 PM
Or maybe if you smush them together enough

The fans have tried.  *twitches*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on September 24, 2012, 05:23:22 PM
oh god, the lengths some fans go are just...twisted
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 24, 2012, 06:56:24 PM
And twisted is mild compared to what some of them get up to.
(Shudders - I've been around FanATICS of several different stripes.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on September 24, 2012, 08:38:11 PM
If I had to pick, my choice for Harry would be Zachary Quinto. And I was the director, I'd definitely ask him to audition.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on September 24, 2012, 08:50:51 PM
The problem with Harry is that our image of him is dramatically skewed towards how he sees himself, which is essentially a Big Magic Nerd and kind of a softy.  The rest of the world sees him as this freaking terrifying nexus of destruction that fortunately tends to champion the weak. 

Im still stuck on Michael Fassbender as Harry.  In X-men he seemed to have the full range of what harry would need to be: coldly powerful and willing to do dark things for teh greater good, but also able to show a softer side
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: harry dresden on September 30, 2012, 12:53:40 AM
Forgive me for not going through the whole 352 pages of this thread but a few suggestions for some of the characters I pictured in my head when reading the books . But to add a little spice these ideas are all from my part of the world (Britain) and so maybe some will be new, so see what you think.

James Purefoy-Harry Dresden
Carey Mulligan-Karrin Murphy
Richard Armitage-Thomas Raith
Martin Sheen/Andy Serkis-Waldo Butters
Stephen Fry/Hugh Laurie-Bob the skull
Mark Strong-Nicodemus Archleone
Kate Winslet-Charity Carpenter
Jeremy Sheffield/Chris Vance-Micheal Carpenter
Rachel Hurd-Wood/Juno Temple-Molly Carpenter
Kate Beckinsale-Lara Raith
Saffron Burrows-Leanansidhe
Emily Mortimer-Elaine Mallory
Jason Isaacs-Johnny Marcone (Jason Isaacs would probably make a very good Bob too.)
Clive Owen-Jared Kincaid
Sanya-Chiwetel Ejiofor
Bernard Hill (if he could do the accent properly)-Ebenezar McCoy
Dakota Blue Richards-Lily
Justine-Imogen Poots
Ben Whishaw/James McAvoy-Toot toot
David Morrissey-Malcolm Dresden
Rufus Sewell-Madrigal Raith

and I know it doesn't strictly count, but those of you who've played the game Bayonetta will know there is a small girl character called Cereza in it (the cutest kid ever by the way) who is always in my mind when thinking of The Archive.   








Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kathryn Rose on October 08, 2012, 11:14:27 PM
How did James Marsters not make this list?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on October 08, 2012, 11:49:01 PM
How did James Marsters not make this list?

*points up*  yeah!  What she said.  :-)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on October 08, 2012, 11:49:10 PM
Put Marsters down for the Erlking
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 09, 2012, 12:40:46 AM
How did James Marsters not make this list?

Ive been thinking he'd make a great Nicodemus
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: harry dresden on October 09, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
Yep James has to have a place somewhere preferably in a recurring role. My vote would be Bob considering how well he portrays him in the audiobooks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on October 09, 2012, 06:17:03 PM
He certainly could do it, but I think Mark Hamill would make an AWESOME Bob, although it might make all the Star Wars references a little weird.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 09, 2012, 06:17:50 PM
He certainly could do it, but I think Mark Hamill would make an AWESOME Bob, although it might make all the Star Wars references a little weird.
a little weird...or AWESOME!  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: harry dresden on October 09, 2012, 07:27:41 PM
Forgive my ignorance but can Mark Hamill do an English accent? I'm sure he could but... Bob without an English accent, well I can't imagine it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on October 09, 2012, 07:29:12 PM
Forgive my ignorance but can Mark Hamill do an English accent? I'm sure he could but... Bob without an English accent, well I can't imagine it.
Those of us who have never watched the TV show don't have that issue. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: harry dresden on October 09, 2012, 07:33:27 PM
Never seen the TV show I was referring to James Marsters affecting an English accent for his portrayal of Bob in the audiobooks. ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on October 09, 2012, 08:07:44 PM
Never seen the TV show I was referring to James Marsters affecting an English accent for his portrayal of Bob in the audiobooks. ;)
Oooops!  My bad!  (I've never listened to the audio books, either - I don't have the patience to listen to someone else read me a story, I'd rather read it myself.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: harry dresden on October 09, 2012, 08:45:17 PM
Oooops!  My bad!  (I've never listened to the audio books, either - I don't have the patience to listen to someone else read me a story, I'd rather read it myself.)

No worries Lash. I like to do both, to read myself and to listen to the audio. Each is a completely different experience yet equally enjoyable.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 09, 2012, 08:45:44 PM
Oooops!  My bad!  (I've never listened to the audio books, either - I don't have the patience to listen to someone else read me a story, I'd rather read it myself.)
They are great for road trips.  And you really shouldn't be reading while driving;  shame on you!   ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on October 09, 2012, 09:10:15 PM
They are great for road trips.  And you really shouldn't be reading while driving;  shame on you!   ;)
Never tried reading while driving.  This is multi-tasking to a level that is beyond my skills!   :P

(But I did try listening to an audio book while driving once.  I found my mind wandered and I missed large pieces of the story.  And not because the story wasn't interesting, I borrowed the book from the library later and thoroughly enjoyed it.  I'm not a listener I suppose.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on October 10, 2012, 12:29:15 AM
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/blazeorama/Harry%20Dresden%20played%20by%20Hugh%20Jackman/kdresdencopy.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kathryn Rose on October 11, 2012, 06:13:36 AM
Tonight I was watching an old episode of Leverage, and there was a guest star  I caught a glimpse of, and thought, "He would make a good Harry."  Then I had to laugh because I realized it was the guy who played Harry in the television show.   D'oh!   :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on October 11, 2012, 06:17:12 AM
Tonight I was watching an old episode of Leverage, and there was a guest star  I caught a glimpse of, and thought, "He would make a good Harry."  Then I had to laugh because I realized it was the guy who played Harry in the television show.   D'oh!   :)

That's hilarious!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 11, 2012, 07:53:41 AM
Paul Blackthorne who is now appearing as a regular on the new Fox TV show - Arrow.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 11, 2012, 12:55:39 PM
Which I thought was pretty good.

Also, I cast myself as a young Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on October 11, 2012, 06:46:40 PM
If I was going to cast myself as someone in the books, it would be a young Morty. I've got the build described in the books for it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 11, 2012, 08:13:04 PM
Ill take unnamed Alpha #4  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on October 12, 2012, 08:44:55 AM
Paul Blackthorne who is now appearing as a regular on the new Fox TV show - Arrow.

CW, actually.  Basic Channel 18, I think, former WB Network.

Green Arrow is Supernatural's newest little Brother.  And I think it's going to be awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: HarryDFan on October 16, 2012, 08:49:04 PM
James Marsters is the only Harry Dresden I could see.  I've listened to him for 12 books and see him as Harry in my mind.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 17, 2012, 07:28:09 PM
James Marsters is the only Harry Dresden I could see.  I've listened to him for 12 books and see him as Harry in my mind.
he certainly hass the angular, wiry build.  Not sure if he is tall enough, but then that sort of extreme height difference is something that generally doesnt play as well on screen; it makes framing the shots too difficult
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 17, 2012, 08:55:18 PM
No, Marsters isn't really tall enough - but, like you said, that kind of height difference
makes framing shots really difficult.  And you can work around it.
Paul Blackthorne was a lucky find in that he is just slightly over 6' 3"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on October 17, 2012, 09:55:11 PM
So, I have a character I want to play for Butters. Ryan Cartwrighthttp://www.idigbonestv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ryan-Cartwright-Alphas.jpg (http://www.idigbonestv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ryan-Cartwright-Alphas.jpg)

Have you seen his range and timing? 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on October 17, 2012, 09:58:03 PM
I would like Phil Collins to play butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 18, 2012, 12:47:52 AM
So, I have a character I want to play for Butters. Ryan Cartwrighthttp://www.idigbonestv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ryan-Cartwright-Alphas.jpg (http://www.idigbonestv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ryan-Cartwright-Alphas.jpg)

Have you seen his range and timing?

He's not how I've traditionally pictured Butters, but he's impressed me with his acting on Alphas.  I picture Butters as short and wiry, with curly black hair.  He could pull that off with his height (5'9"), he's pretty thin, and has the right color hair. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on October 18, 2012, 02:36:18 AM
He's not how I've traditionally pictured Butters, but he's impressed me with his acting on Alphas.  I picture Butters as short and wiry, with curly black hair.  He could pull that off with his height (5'9"), he's pretty thin, and has the right color hair.

He's also one of the intern guys on Bones.  Totally different character.  Seriously, this guy has game.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on October 18, 2012, 03:05:37 AM
I think he would do it very well!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on October 18, 2012, 03:11:26 AM
I just posted this same idea on Facebook, going to see if I can stir up interest in the novels among my ordinary friends.  (making you all extraordinary of course)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on October 19, 2012, 06:50:09 PM
He's also one of the intern guys on Bones.  Totally different character.  Seriously, this guy has game.

He was my favorite of the Bones interns and I didn't even notice Gary was him until I heard Cartwright speaking with his normal accent in one of the behind the scenes bits..
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on October 19, 2012, 08:45:18 PM
Seriously? I think he was playing more or less the same character, so it was very easy for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on October 20, 2012, 10:01:35 PM
Unless the person is really famous or somebody I really like who I've watched in numerous roles over the years I'm horrible at noticing things like that. Plus I have better ears than eyes so probably 9 times out of 10 when I do notice its by thier voice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on October 20, 2012, 10:06:35 PM
Hubby is just like that. A new hairstyle, a beard, and he didn't recognize the people...until they talk. I am totally visual.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on October 20, 2012, 10:10:47 PM
Hubby is just like that. A new hairstyle, a beard, and he didn't recognize the people...until they talk. I am totally visual.

Yep. I've not recognized actresses just because they changed thier hair style/color.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mrjoe94 on October 21, 2012, 04:59:06 PM
Hey guys, I posted a long-ass time ago with a casting choice for Morgan (WWE's The Undertaker I recall) but I thought of some new ones. Warning, these may have been said before its a huge thread

Bob the skull: Just let James Marsters do it, he loves the character anyway. :D
Eb McCoy: You say Tommy Lee Jones and I raise you Sam Elliot.





Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on October 21, 2012, 06:25:22 PM
You say Sam Elliot and I say ... well.... I don't remember the guys name, but the guy who played Gimli.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on October 21, 2012, 07:14:56 PM
You say Sam Elliot and I say ... well.... I don't remember the guys name, but the guy who played Gimli.

John Rhys Davis?  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0722636/

Yes!!! 

In my head (because it was my head and I could do it that way if I wanted to) I put Uncle Jessie from The Dukes of Hazard in that role.  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0701500/  IMDB says that Denver Pyle died in 1997.  What I liked about him was that he seemed the slow to speak, slow to become angry - but watch out when he did - type.

I hadn't found anyone I liked as well as that until this moment.  THAT, is excellent casting.  He is deep barreled, dignified... able to convey power.  Now the question is, can he do an Uncle Jessie impression? 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on October 21, 2012, 07:31:22 PM
John Rhys Davis?  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0722636/

Yes!!! 

In my head (because it was my head and I could do it that way if I wanted to) I put Uncle Jessie from The Dukes of Hazard in that role.  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0701500/  IMDB says that Denver Pyle died in 1997.  What I liked about him was that he seemed the slow to speak, slow to become angry - but watch out when he did - type.

I hadn't found anyone I liked as well as that until this moment.  THAT, is excellent casting.  He is deep barreled, dignified... able to convey power.  Now the question is, can he do an Uncle Jessie impression?

Yes!!! I could not for the life of me remember his name. But it's his voice I hear in my head whenever I'm reading DF and Eb is talking. That probably doesn't exactly say great things about my mental state, but I'm ok with that.


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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 22, 2012, 11:21:04 PM
Eb will forever be, at least in my mind, Wilford Brimley.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on October 23, 2012, 01:29:45 AM
Eb will forever be, at least in my mind, Wilford Brimley.

If he can be fierce, he would be entirely acceptable.  He's closer to Uncle Jesse in looks - but I'm not at all frightened of Wilford.  Can he truly be the black staff? 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Orbweaver on November 02, 2012, 01:09:34 AM
213 pages. Not ONE mention of Ian Somerhalder anywhere.

(http://wallpaperflow.com/wallpaper/ian-somerhalder-wallpaper-8.jpg)

This man's eyes will eat anyone, man or woman, alive. And in case you were wondering what he looks like as a pale vamp:

(http://fofocasesuspiros.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/ian-somerhalder-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 02, 2012, 02:10:41 AM
You know, I like many others scoffed at Paul Blackthorne for the role of Harry.  The TV show had biased me with all the ways it was NOT the same as the books.  But having seen more of him in the new Arrow tv show, Im starting to think he was a really good choice.  There arent many who can pull off the perfect balance of Tired, Snarky, with an undercurrent of barely contained Rage, but he does it rather well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 02, 2012, 02:13:42 AM
I didn't read many complaints. I am one of many who thinks he was a great choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 02, 2012, 02:18:29 AM
Could be just me then, I havent actually read through the thread in a good long while.  And like I said it was all bias against the TV show for not being more faithful to the books.  I notice he isnt even an option on the poll though
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 02, 2012, 02:19:45 AM
That is true, I complained about that many pages ago.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 03, 2012, 09:03:32 AM
Richard Burgi, Gentleman John Marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on November 03, 2012, 10:42:10 AM
Richard Burgi, Gentleman John Marcone

oh wow, I could totally see it. even if his eyes aren't green :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on November 03, 2012, 02:14:20 PM
Richard Burgi, Gentleman John Marcone

I haven't seen him act.  It could be that he can pull off cold and calculating fine, but he just seems so... GQ.  He looks more like a 007 who can make hard calls if he needs to, but not a hardened kind of guy if you catch the difference.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 03, 2012, 06:41:36 PM
Chris Meloni for Marcone.
He has no problem being bad ass or nice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 03, 2012, 08:44:41 PM
Richard Burgi, Gentleman John Marcone

Burgi plays a good badguy, but to me he's not cold enough.

Chris Meloni for Marcone.
He has no problem being bad ass or nice.

Same with Meloni.  He could be a convincing bad guy, but he doesn't look to have the ability to give people chills just looking at them.

To me, it has to be Adrian Pasdar.  He has the ability to be charming, serious, passionate, and down-right dead-eyed cold when need be.  He can look like he's dead inside, which is how I picture Marcone.

(http://www3.images.coolspotters.com/photos/669/nathan-petrelli-gallery.jpg)

My team Marcone, with Pasdar as Marcone, Debrah Farentino as Helen Beckitt, John Cena as Hendricks, and Izabella Scorupco as Gard.  Most people don't agree with Izabella as Gard, but its all a matter of impressions.

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Team_Marcone.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 04, 2012, 01:20:47 AM
You haven't seen Chris Meloni in OZ or in True Blood - he does icy stare just fine.
But to each their own.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 04, 2012, 09:09:23 AM
I would also concede Meloni, and Eric Roberts ( though Idk if he would do another Gangster role)... I agree that He would do a great job, But allow me to defend My choice. Burgi Has also played both sides of the field. Marcone also tends to flip back and forth, Thought i think he does it for appearences. Burgi, when going intense can most of all, pull off the Marcone glare... His eyes are the color of old money and he still has the appearence of a man who is in charge, but is not scared of doing the hard work on his own.  Marcone is a paradox... He is a crime boss who feels he has a responsibility to keep the innocent out of harms way. Burgi, in my opinion, has the ability to pull off that paradox.

This is almost unrelated... I almost forgot to mention Hendrix... I, no doubt will come underfire for this, would go almost against his physical description to get his essence.... When I think of hendrix I imagine... Bill Goldburg
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on November 05, 2012, 07:31:21 PM


This is almost unrelated... I almost forgot to mention Hendrix... I, no doubt will come underfire for this, would go almost against his physical description to get his essence.... When I think of hendrix I imagine... Bill Goldburg

My mental image of Hendricks when I'm reading one of the books has always been pretty close to Butterfinger in Hudson Hawk.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 05, 2012, 07:45:31 PM
As far as Hendricks goes, John Cena has the blocky facial features that could work, but I had always pictured somebody wider that that.  They kind of guy that is almost disproportionately so.  More of a young Joe Viterelli, maybe.  Theres an actor out there I am thinking of, but I cant remember what ive seen him in.  It was a cop of some kind
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 06, 2012, 05:48:48 PM
Ah yes... Butterfinger... Where have you gone?  If we could only get Bruce to age in reverse and grow a few more inches, We would have Harry Dresden... Die hard 1... nuff said.

Btw, love the honorable mention on "Hudson Hawk", one of Willis's most under-rated movies... not every one loves that move... but I do.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on November 07, 2012, 06:24:45 PM
Ah yes... Butterfinger... Where have you gone?  If we could only get Bruce to age in reverse and grow a few more inches, We would have Harry Dresden... Die hard 1... nuff said.

Btw, love the honorable mention on "Hudson Hawk", one of Willis's most under-rated movies... not every one loves that move... but I do.

I have it on DVD. Its one of my favorite less than serious movies.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on November 10, 2012, 11:10:10 AM
Are you guys talking Willis?  Because I always had him pegged for Mac.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on November 10, 2012, 02:56:13 PM
Are you guys talking Willis?  Because I always had him pegged for Mac.

Like!   ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 11, 2012, 03:19:39 PM
Hey, Not a bad Idea, or even Morgan, I know it would be a little bit of a stretch... but a burnt out wizard cop with a vendetta against someone... Kinda makes you scratch your head.  And griffyn, your guy does fit the part of a younger marcone, but the part will call for someone a little bit more seasoned.  Also, I wanted to get everyone's opinion on the voice of bob. I know his name has been brought up for Nicodemus, I think he can bring more to playing the voice of bob... Alan Rickman.  Now as fa as Nicodemus goes, I would love to see the man who always does evil angel best, Chris Walken
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 12, 2012, 01:44:15 PM
So I have a challenge for this thread.  We will likely never actually settle on any one set of castings, but it has come close in one instance:  Matt Bomer as Thomas has seen something close to universal acceptance. 

So here is the challenge:  Cast his family, those that are supposed to share a family resemblance.  Who would look like a believable Harry-as-Matt-Bomer's-Brother?  Who would make a good Lara in that context?  A good Papa Raith?  How about Madrigal and Madeline?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 12, 2012, 10:59:02 PM
Papa Wraith should look like Tom Welling, but have more charisma  :D
I will think in the others.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on November 12, 2012, 11:01:10 PM
Just cast all of the Kardassians as the various Raith sisters. Would even explain why they are famous.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on November 13, 2012, 12:49:01 AM
OK, if we are going with Matt Bomer for Thomas, the I would cast Olivia Wilde as Lara, and Summer Glau as Inari
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 13, 2012, 02:53:50 AM
But, they don't look that relatives to Matt.
I had a woman for Lara, but I forgot who she was. I saw her in a show, not a movie. That is the only thing I remember.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on November 13, 2012, 03:09:20 AM
Now, I'm not saying they are twins, but considering the fact that Thomas and Lara would have a different mother, they wouldn't look exactly alike.

(http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20091214/300.WhiteCollar.cm.121409.jpg)(http://beautiful-pics.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Olivia_Wilde_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 13, 2012, 02:30:52 PM
(click to show/hide)

But Papa Raith is described in WN like this:
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Thomas favored his father heavily, and at first glance, Lord Raith could have been Thomas. He had the same strong, appealing features, the same glossy dark hair, the same lean build. He looked little older than Thomas, but his face was very different. It was the eyes, I think. They were… stained, somehow, with contempt and calculation and a serpentine dispassion.
Which makes me think we'd need somebody younger.  I could see Matthew Mcconaughey for it, though I cannot recall him ever playing a villain.
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTg0MDc3ODUwOV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTk2NjY4Nw@@._V1._SX214_CR0,0,214,314_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 13, 2012, 03:38:26 PM
As a side note, Jim said in an interview (when talking about work on the Comic) that he pictured Harry as a mix between Fox Mulder and Vincent Ventresca.  So what would you guys say to him as harry?  (try to ignore the poofy hair):
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/friends/images/6/68/Vincent_Ventresca.jpeg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on November 13, 2012, 04:21:17 PM
I like Richard Burgi for Marcone.  I'd thought of him for Harry at first, but the more I think about it, this guy has more bulk to him than what I envision for Harry and he plays mean pretty well too, while still maintaining a classy, polished exterior.  So, I'm definitely pitching him for Marcone.

I'm sorry, I don't know how to imbed the picture into post.  But here's a link to him: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0121404/#Actor
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on November 13, 2012, 04:35:14 PM
And here is the guy I want for Kincade, Christian Kane: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0437283/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 13, 2012, 08:02:10 PM
Thank you dea, As far as my man vince, I am actually a fan of his... He was on a short lived, but excellent show on Sci-Fi called " The Invisible Man" He was a very good mix of good, evil, and smart @$$. I Have thought of him as Harry... I keep trying to come up for reasons to say no... but I Keep coming back to him... I have looked at the others who people have suggested and I, putting them under scroutany find that Most of them are too young, or either The right level of smart @$$. I vote Yes on Vince

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 13, 2012, 08:11:53 PM
Wow, posted that pic on accident, trying to figure out how, lol. Ok Here are my Top three pics for Cast... You Know #1

Richard Burgi, Marcone

Sarah Michelle Gellar, Murphy.... She Is due for a comeback, besides she is the cutest tiny tough chick I know.

Bradley Cooper, Thomas Raith

(http://C:\Users\RUSHING\Pictures\casting\Top Three.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 13, 2012, 08:17:07 PM
Last one I promise... If I can't have Cooper, Our friend Neil Caffrey would Make an excelent Thomas as well... I would be Happy with either.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on November 13, 2012, 08:27:25 PM
I very much agree with Matt Bomer for Thomas. I think he could pull off that role to perfection. On my current reading of the books, getting ready for Cold Days, I've substituted his image in my mind for Thomas, and it works very well. Or maybe that means I'm going crazy. Oh well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on November 13, 2012, 08:27:38 PM
This is my pic for Laura Wraith, Eliza Dushku: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0244630/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 13, 2012, 08:30:03 PM
She could do it, But I have her pegged as Young Luccio.  She has all the acting range you'd need, and the requisite dimples. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 13, 2012, 08:35:24 PM
And Looking at them, Bomer and vince could pass for brothers, though vince is older, we can blame the age appearance on succunus genes
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on November 13, 2012, 08:39:34 PM
Wow, posted that pic on accident, trying to figure out how, lol. Ok Here are my Top three pics for Cast... You Know #1

Richard Burgi, Marcone

Sarah Michelle Gellar, Murphy.... She Is due for a comeback, besides she is the cutest tiny tough chick I know.

Bradley Cooper, Thomas Raith

(http://C:\Users\RUSHING\Pictures\casting\Top Three.jpg)

Bradly Cooper?  No!   Sorry, in my head he's still the cuddly one from Alias.  Casting him as Thomas messes with my head. He comes across as vulnerable and sincere.  The actor has to be able to pull off the cold ruthlessness  AND that fake French accent. 

I chose Elisha for Lara because this actress does the sex-in-heels thing with no trouble.  Plus, she's got a kind of chemistry with Matt (she's guested on White Collar a few times).  They could pull off the layered undercurrents between the characters without much dialogue having to be spelled out.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on November 13, 2012, 10:22:05 PM
After watching Elementary, I think that Adian Quinn would make an excellent choice for Murphy's dad.

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc8bkb9wJm1qlq52f.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on November 13, 2012, 10:26:37 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on November 13, 2012, 10:32:13 PM
I'm bored today, sorry for bombing everyone's inbox.

Here's my choice for Toot Toot, Steve Zahn: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001872/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 14, 2012, 03:45:36 AM
Thank you dea, As far as my man vince, I am actually a fan of his... He was on a short lived, but excellent show on Sci-Fi called " The Invisible Man" He was a very good mix of good, evil, and smart @$$. I Have thought of him as Harry... I keep trying to come up for reasons to say no... but I Keep coming back to him... I have looked at the others who people have suggested and I, putting them under scroutany find that Most of them are too young, or either The right level of smart @$$. I vote Yes on Vince

What I find most interesting is that folks aren't taking age into consideration for "Casting".  I know this is all speculation and wishful thinking, but when I picture these actors/actresses playing Dresden characters, I tend to imagine that the entire book series is going to be put into film.  And for that, you have to cast fairly young.  Even at two books a year, you're talking about a 12 year run on television. 

To start the series, Harry is mid-to-late-twenties.  Thomas is 5 years older, if I remember correctly.  That means he's late-twenties-to-early-thirties before we see him.  So casting Bomer (35) as Thomas, especially a few years ago, would have been perfect.   But now he's too old to be the youngest Thomas is in the series.  And since Wamps are supposed to age slowly, you might actually have to cast someone the same age - or even younger - than your casting of Harry, to keep that youthful appearance throughout an extended show.

Of course, I've always thought that if they actually did a book-to-film series, they'd have to ease up on the eternal youth of everyone.  So maybe not, if they went that route.

OK, if we are going with Matt Bomer for Thomas, the I would cast Olivia Wilde as Lara, and Summer Glau as Inari

I made this family tree a while back.  Don't agree with all of it now.  But I agree with Olivia Wilde as Lara.  Summer Glau is too old for Inari, who is supposed to be late teens in BR.  Here I cast Victoria Justice as Inari.  The only fake casting was Justine, who's just a random webchick that caught the image.  I had fun with Elisa and Natalia :)
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Team_Raith-1.png)

I'm bored today, sorry for bombing everyone's inbox.

Here's my choice for Toot Toot, Steve Zahn: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001872/
I think Zahn would be great as the character, but Toot is supposed to be similar in appearance to a teenager if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 14, 2012, 03:54:50 AM
Well, nobody said we are beginning with the first books. I always imagine they are now, in the latest books. I laughed with your Elisa and Natalia.

If Matt Bomer is Thomas, a good choice for Lara would be Cobie Smulders, IMHO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 14, 2012, 11:36:14 AM
     Griffin, as a whole I agree with you, Age is an important factor in casting. With Bomer though, Physical age is a non-Issue. Most actors can play a range of ages, and Like Dick Clark, Bomer has the good Genes.... He and I are the same age But He rocks it much better than I do... He has a face that could place him between 26 and 32.  He is one of those guys who looks like he would step into a room and the world opens up for him, I bet he doesn't have to work that hard to maintain his GQ appearance...The Bastard... and no matter how old he seemes to get, he keeps the boyish quality that makes him the type of guy that women ( and some men) will always take notice of.  Sounds Like Thomas to me...

     The Real hard part will be actually casting Harry.  I have been thinking about it at long lengths. I Honestly believe Harry would have to be an unknown. Cast for the part thru audition, and surround him with good supporting people. I have looked through the suggestions, even my top picks, but it all falls apart under closer examination. I am in the beginning of changes now, but when I am done I am going to go back to storm front, and get a better mental picture of the first book, bc if that would be the premise of the first movie... we are all off base and we need to forget about the Wraiths for the time being
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on November 14, 2012, 10:11:10 PM
So I have a challenge for this thread.  We will likely never actually settle on any one set of castings, but it has come close in one instance:  Matt Bomer as Thomas has seen something close to universal acceptance. 

So here is the challenge:  Cast his family, those that are supposed to share a family resemblance.  Who would look like a believable Harry-as-Matt-Bomer's-Brother?  Who would make a good Lara in that context?  A good Papa Raith?  How about Madrigal and Madeline?

Cillian Murphy as Madrigal.  Sean Maher should be added in somewhere, too--he looks like he could be Bomer's family.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zohak on November 15, 2012, 08:18:10 AM
Ed Wasser morden from b5 could be Nicodemus or Gabriel Macht from Suits maybe
Ed Wasser
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0913662/

Gabriel Macht
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0532683/

Scott Patterson from gilmore girls could be Michael
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0666398/

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on November 15, 2012, 01:19:42 PM
Ed Wasser morden from b5 could be Nicodemus or Gabriel Macht from Suits maybe
Ed Wasser
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0913662/

Gabriel Macht
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0532683/

Scott Patterson from gilmore girls could be Michael
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0666398/

I love Ed Wasser for this part!  (granted age might be an issue - but if we are building our fantasy team it just doesn't matter, does it?)  I loved hating in B5.  He does slick and creepy really well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 15, 2012, 02:37:41 PM
If its people we love to hate, Im sure we can fit James Callis is there somewhere...Maybe Grevaine?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/JamesCallisCCJuly09.jpg/220px-JamesCallisCCJuly09.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on November 15, 2012, 04:51:35 PM
If its people we love to hate, Im sure we can fit James Callis is there somewhere...Maybe Grevaine?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/JamesCallisCCJuly09.jpg/220px-JamesCallisCCJuly09.jpg)

Nah, not Grevaine. This guy is good enough that I would want him to stick around for multiple appearances. So I'd put him as Cowl.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on November 15, 2012, 04:52:56 PM
Nah, not Grevaine. This guy is good enough that I would want him to stick around for multiple appearances. So I'd put him as Cowl.

This makes me happy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 15, 2012, 09:18:45 PM
So he'd be stuck in a deep cowl with a voice changer?  Not the best spot for recognition, but then I didnt expect V for Vendetta to be as good as it was, sho who knows

Think he could pull off Nic?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on November 15, 2012, 11:09:44 PM
I don't think he'd have to use a voice changer, and unless my guess is very far off, him as Cowl would mean a much bigger part as the series progresses.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Icecream on November 15, 2012, 11:28:10 PM
If its people we love to hate, Im sure we can fit James Callis is there somewhere...Maybe Grevaine?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/JamesCallisCCJuly09.jpg/220px-JamesCallisCCJuly09.jpg)
nicodemus
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 16, 2012, 12:47:24 AM
If its people we love to hate, Im sure we can fit James Callis is there somewhere...Maybe Grevaine?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/JamesCallisCCJuly09.jpg/220px-JamesCallisCCJuly09.jpg)

He's not intimidating in the slightest to me.  So I'd have a hard time with him being a serious bad guy.  Nico and Cowl wouldn't work.

I could see him being Grevaine, as you said.  Or maybe Gregori Cristos if he's just a patsy and nothing more.  Maybe even Madrigal Raith.  You know, bad guys that you don't take too seriously, but still have some weight to the character that need good casting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 16, 2012, 02:37:37 AM
He's not intimidating in the slightest to me.  So I'd have a hard time with him being a serious bad guy.  Nico and Cowl wouldn't work.

I could see him being Grevaine, as you said.  Or maybe Gregori Cristos if he's just a patsy and nothing more.  Maybe even Madrigal Raith.  You know, bad guys that you don't take too seriously, but still have some weight to the character that need good casting.
Oooh  Cristos could work.. I could see him posturing on a stage while all his peers secretly hope he dies a violent death :p
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on November 24, 2012, 06:58:55 PM
I've said this before, but Leven Rambin would make an AWESOME Molly:

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ9EEG4GBehRbPA978YWOcrS3y9OBYnMlkPg11L2mWPH9kW459y)

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTkj694LXnfY6ZWkYk2tfvnpPH1PemD3wPG-ICPRmy-ZDwTjs9m)

Also, two possible Kincaids:
Reed Diamond - played Dominic in Dollhouse, and I think he could definitely do Kincaid
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/A_F/Di_Dp/Dollhouse/season1/dollhouse53.jpg)

Or a little bit of a left-field one, but he's definitely got the acting chops: Neil Patrick Harris
(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Screen-shot-2010-12-13-at-5.18.30-PM-300x212.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on November 24, 2012, 07:07:32 PM
Actually, scratch that, if NPH can't be Kincaid, he'd make an AMAZING Uriel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 24, 2012, 07:09:50 PM
I don't think so.
From the description when Harry first meets Uriel.
Uriel has dark skin.  NPH is not dark.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on November 24, 2012, 07:10:37 PM
Ok, Reed Diamond = Kincaid is definitely something I can get behind. That would be all kinds of awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CapnCowl on November 24, 2012, 07:18:11 PM
I don't think so.
From the description when Harry first meets Uriel.
Uriel has dark skin.  NPH is not dark.
Uriel changes his appearance several times. The first time they meet he's a dark-skinned old janitor with silver hair.

But in Changes he's got messy blonde hair and high cheekbones. I think he's described as having the appearance of a fairly young man though, so I dunno if NPH would work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 24, 2012, 07:52:06 PM
I don't think so.
From the description when Harry first meets Uriel.
Uriel has dark skin.  NPH is not dark.

When Uriel first appears, he's a black janitor at the hospital named Jake.  Casting obvious.
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Uriel_Jake.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 25, 2012, 03:09:54 AM
How about Joseph Gordon Levitt for Butters?
He can do both silly and serious and has turned into
one very good actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 25, 2012, 06:00:20 PM
How about Joseph Gordon Levitt for Butters?
He can do both silly and serious and has turned into
one very good actor.

I agree, he is a good actor, but He is really young. and besides I always imagine butters as an older version of the kid from southpark with the same name. which makes it very hard to imagine a "real world face" on him when i read the books. But I would like to see someone with the ability to pull off the same kwirky personality, and overall weariness. I have no suggestions as to who yet, but I am getting there
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 25, 2012, 06:20:50 PM
Wow Angry gamer, Good call. Though Reed fits the type well, I think I would love the Universe that NPH was a demonic, vampire hunting, mercenary protector.  If nothing else, the entertainment value alone would be enough to get me to watch. 

A couple thoughts of my own

Nicodemous- Tim Curry

Quintus Cassius(Saluriel)- Crispen Glover

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on November 25, 2012, 07:22:01 PM
Wow Angry gamer, Good call. Though Reed fits the type well, I think I would love the Universe that NPH was a demonic, vampire hunting, mercenary protector.  If nothing else, the entertainment value alone would be enough to get me to watch. 

A couple thoughts of my own

Nicodemous- Tim Curry

Quintus Cassius(Saluriel)- Crispen Glover

'twould indeed be amazing. Personally, I always imagined Nic as Benedict Cumberbatch - he can REALLY do the cold, I-don't-care-about-you-as-more-than-a-means-to-an-end thing that Nic does.

Good Cassius, but from the pictures I found on Google, he might make a good Marcone.

Mark Hamill should have a role somewhere - either as Bob, or the Skinwalker (or maybe even Cowl!)

Another one I've said before: Eva Greene as Lara Raith
(http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Eva-Green1.jpg)

And Miranda Otto as Charity:
(http://www.celebszz.com/46479-2/miranda-otto-09.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 26, 2012, 08:24:10 PM
Wow, posted that pic on accident, trying to figure out how, lol. Ok Here are my Top three pics for Cast... You Know #1

Richard Burgi, Marcone

Sarah Michelle Gellar, Murphy.... She Is due for a comeback, besides she is the cutest tiny tough chick I know.

Bradley Cooper or Matt Bomer, Thomas Raith

(http://C:\Users\RUSHING\Pictures\casting\Top Three.jpg)


an earlier thought, I do Stick with Burgi am My Marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jodysattva on November 27, 2012, 05:31:24 AM
So... I haven't been on this site for a while, but did I miss something here?  Is there actually going to be a movie?  And are we seriously brainstorming about who to cast??? 
(Be still my beating heart)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jodysattva on November 27, 2012, 05:34:29 AM
If so, Nathan Fillion as Dresden - it must be.

And holy shit, if there is ever a casting I am there!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: biffstella on November 27, 2012, 06:53:45 AM
I like Nathan Fillion as Harry, but only if he slimmed down.  Matt Bomer is Thomas, I picture Reese Witherspoon when I see Murphy.  Eva Longoria for Susan, Angelina Jolie for Lara, Jay Baruchel for Butters.  And Ray Stevenson (if you can't get George Clooney) for Marcone.  Ray was playing Marcone with an accent on this season of Dexter. For Michael I see Adam Baldwin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Magnus on November 27, 2012, 07:28:59 AM
So... I haven't been on this site for a while, but did I miss something here?  Is there actually going to be a movie?  And are we seriously brainstorming about who to cast??? 
(Be still my beating heart)
No sorry no movie, they are basically doing this for fun ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on November 27, 2012, 02:05:16 PM
Adam Baldwin for Michael? 

Ohhhh Mamma Like!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 27, 2012, 04:49:31 PM
I have decided to try to keep the My mind referance in Storm Front, I am going back through the book now, And I am really stuck on using Angelina Jolie for Mrs. Bekkitt, then Maybe Jude Law for Mr. Bekkitt... He does describe them as a "Nordic Track" couple.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on November 28, 2012, 09:49:22 PM
What about for Rawlings? I'm thinking Reginald VelJohnson.

(http://momoneymoprostates.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/carl_winslow_in_uniform.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 28, 2012, 10:30:48 PM
I would like Mary Kate Wiles as Molly.

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMzkwMTM2NDgwNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTc1OTI1Mw@@._V1._SX133_SY200_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on November 28, 2012, 10:40:26 PM
I would like Mary Kate Wiles as Molly.

(http://)

I agree.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on November 29, 2012, 05:46:47 PM
I'm probably going to get shouted at for this, but has anyone considered RObert Pattinson for Harry? If you watch interviews, you see he can get quite snarky, and he gets dishevelled enough to look like Harry. Not sure if he's got the height and he'd need to improve his American accent, but it would be hilariously ironic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on November 29, 2012, 07:20:39 PM
I'm probably going to get shouted at for this, but has anyone considered RObert Pattinson for Harry? If you watch interviews, you see he can get quite snarky, and he gets dishevelled enough to look like Harry. Not sure if he's got the height and he'd need to improve his American accent, but it would be hilariously ironic.

*starts to look for shotgun*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 29, 2012, 07:54:10 PM
Also looking for shotgun, big chunk of two by four with large nail in it, LAWS rocket, Rocket Grenade launcher - whatever blunt object or weapon of mass destruction necessary to damage TAG. >:( >:(

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, and again I say NOOOO!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on November 29, 2012, 09:52:00 PM
NO.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on November 29, 2012, 10:14:07 PM
Here is a list of people who I would rather play Harry than Robert "stupidhead" Pattinson

1. Danny Devito
2. Adam West
3. Elizabeth Turner
4. That guy who does all the sound effects in Police Academy
5. Chris Farley

I think that all of these people would be a better, more convincing Harry Dresden than Robert "stupidhead" Pattinson.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on November 29, 2012, 11:57:32 PM
*Ducks and covers*  Passionate people here!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on November 30, 2012, 04:57:07 AM
My recent like for Harry would be Daniel Day Lewis, after seeing Lincoln
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on November 30, 2012, 03:19:53 PM
I am sorry Warden, though I agree Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor, I am afraid he is just too old. Our Harry has to be a believable 25-32 year old. I still don't have a better Idea myself... I am still thinking than a possible unknown would have to play him.

I do have a second, or runner up for Marcone... Ray Liotta
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 30, 2012, 03:54:36 PM
Only if we make Storm Front. If we do CD, he must be older.  DDL is a good choice, I think.
I still think that the Dresden of the TV show was great.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Pinary on November 30, 2012, 09:18:46 PM
I know there was speculation of Wil Wheaton as Butters, but did anyone mention him as Rudolph? He seems to have a thing for playing total slimeballs, so I bet he could pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 01, 2012, 04:35:34 AM
I could see Wil Wheaton as Bob
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 01, 2012, 06:26:19 AM
I could see Wil Wheaton as Bob

I've always imagined Bob sounding like Steve Buscemi, personally...

What about Jeri Ryan as Gard?
Stuart Townsend as Thomas?

For some reason, whenever I think about John Marcone, I hear Anthony Hopkins, but he's a little old for Marcone...

And either Erick Avari or Oded Fehr as Rashid
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 01, 2012, 09:32:45 AM
I like Oded Fehr for Rashid though I don't think he's tall enough.
Jeri Ryan would be good for Gard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 01, 2012, 09:41:47 AM
I like Oded Fehr for Rashid though I don't think he's tall enough.
Jeri Ryan would be good for Gard.

They can do wonders making people look taller with just camera work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 01, 2012, 09:43:23 AM
Yes, that's what they'd have to do with most anyone they get for Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 02, 2012, 06:41:49 AM
Yes, that's what they'd have to do with most anyone they get for Harry.

It might be rather difficult to find an actor who was 6'8...  But then, Rashid is taller.

I generally lean toward Eric Avari for Rashid, he's older.

They could have the same person play both Mab and Titania -- Harry did say they practically looked like clones.  My personal favorite would be Michelle Pfeiffer... I could seriously see her as both.

I usually peg Graham Greene as Listens To Wind, but I've had a harder time with Eb -- it would have to be someone who can do the cantankerous old coot. I tend toward guys I've seen in westerns, like Sam Elliott - though I don't know if he'd be my first choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on December 02, 2012, 06:45:28 AM
In my mind, Mab and Titania are Charlize Theron.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on December 02, 2012, 06:47:04 AM
I usually peg Graham Greene as Listens To Wind, but I've had a harder time with Eb -- it would have to be someone who can do the cantankerous old coot. I tend toward guys I've seen in westerns, like Sam Elliott - though I don't know if he'd be my first choice.
I can't see Sam Elliott in overalls.  Does not compute.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 02, 2012, 06:49:55 AM
I can't see Sam Elliott in overalls.  Does not compute.

I would tend to agree... I would have said Ben Johnson if it weren't for the fact that he's been dead for 14 years...  what about Wilford Brimley?

In my mind, Mab and Titania are Charlize Theron.

Not regal enough.  I see Mab as MP in Stardust -- the young version, of course -- and Titania as how she looked in LadyHawke
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on December 02, 2012, 04:00:21 PM
In my mind, Mab and Titania are Charlize Theron.

That's perfect. I think that will probably take over my mental image of Mab.

Normally, I see the characters more as animation than actors.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on December 02, 2012, 05:48:06 PM
Someone suggested John Rhys-Davies for Eb, which would work DAMN well, aside from the fact that hes welsh, not Scottish (but he pretty much does the accent in LotR).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Patrick Bateman on December 02, 2012, 07:48:07 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I always pictured Lloyd Slate as Jason Statham. With the accent.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on December 02, 2012, 08:04:48 PM
Nah, he'd be Kincaid if he was anyone, although I prefer Reed Diamond or Neil Patrick Harris for them. He could be Binder, I guess, but I always pictured him as Mark Sheppard. Nicholas Brendon or Sean Maher could be Slate, although there are probably better candidates.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on December 02, 2012, 08:18:04 PM
Nah, he'd be Kincaid if he was anyone, although I prefer Reed Diamond or Neil Patrick Harris for them. He could be Binder, I guess, but I always pictured him as Mark Sheppard. Nicholas Brendon or Sean Maher could be Slate, although there are probably better candidates.

I have Mark Sheppard for Binder too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 02, 2012, 09:38:21 PM
Ok. I'm really getting on the Liam Neeson for Michael Train.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on December 02, 2012, 09:40:08 PM
One thought I had was Taye Diggs for the fixer that meets with Murphy at the beginning of Ghost Story.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on December 03, 2012, 02:55:59 AM
Nah, he'd be Kincaid if he was anyone, although I prefer Reed Diamond or Neil Patrick Harris for them. He could be Binder, I guess, but I always pictured him as Mark Sheppard. Nicholas Brendon or Sean Maher could be Slate, although there are probably better candidates.
Neither Reed Diamond or NPH scream "bad ass assassin" to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Pinary on December 03, 2012, 03:11:47 AM
I just re-read over Tilly's scenes in Changes, trying a few people out for them, and now that I've done it, I'm pretty sure Sean Maher's my permanent Tilly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on December 03, 2012, 03:13:33 AM
Really, cause I always pictured the guy from Castle that plays Ryan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Pinary on December 03, 2012, 03:23:08 AM
I can see that. Ryan seems a bit faster-paced, more openly emotional, but I could definitely see him working in the part.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on December 03, 2012, 03:24:24 AM
Yeah, I have a hard time seeing Sean pull off cop. And Tilly needs someone who can pull off cop.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 03, 2012, 06:15:37 AM
How about Armand Assante as John Marcone?

I get the feeling that Marcone is not a young man, though it's never been stated how old he is.  He's supposed to be athletic enough to board a moving train from a helicopter.  He knows his way around an assault rifle and is pretty handy with a knife.  I could almost see Anthony Hopkins in the role, truthfully...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: yaddayadda on December 03, 2012, 07:08:02 AM
Oh - I love Nathan Fillian but he's just gained too much weight to be Dresden (sorry, but true)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: yaddayadda on December 03, 2012, 07:09:11 AM
James Marsters. They can compensate for height
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 03, 2012, 08:17:07 AM
James Marsters. They can compensate for height

the problem is that they have to start out with someone who can pass for 28...

Personally, I don't see Marsters as Harry.  I've never listened to the audiobooks, but even if he does have the right voice, I don't see him looking like Harry.

That said, they can do a lot with makeup...

How about Donald Sutherland as Arthur Langtree?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on December 03, 2012, 01:07:32 PM
I thought Ian McKellan was contractually bound to play all old wizard types in Hollywood these days...

I would go with Sean Connery, personally. Gray but still potentially bad-ass.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 03, 2012, 01:49:47 PM
the problem is that they have to start out with someone who can pass for 28...

Personally, I don't see Marsters as Harry.  I've never listened to the audiobooks, but even if he does have the right voice, I don't see him looking like Harry.

That said, they can do a lot with makeup...

How about Donald Sutherland as Arthur Langtree?

I started with the audio books, He does an excellent job with all the characters. I travel alot, and there is something satisfying about being able to listen to your book while on the road, especially when you have precious little time to read.  I have listened to a bunch of books, and he is by far in the top five of people who read these stories. I recently listened to ghost story, It was narrated by someone else ( I forget his name ) But though he did a credible job... It just wasn't right. The whole presentation was... just one off of what it was supposed to be.  Like that phone call from someone you know well, and for some reason you just can't recognize the voice, like it is not them.

I have no Idea what he looks like, and I am not giving him a blessing to play Harry on TV, but what ever they are paying him to play him on radio... it is well worth it.

As for TV/Movie Casting... I think that Liam Neason can play any number of characters in Dresden Universe and get away with it.  Top Three I would choose for him are.... Micheal, Morgan, and The Merlin... in that order
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 03, 2012, 03:19:13 PM
I thought Ian McKellan was contractually bound to play all old wizard types in Hollywood these days...

I would go with Sean Connery, personally. Gray but still potentially bad-ass.
Nah, Lanktry has to be an incarnate @$$hole, skinny and possessed of a barely concealed disdain. 

To me that screams Hugh Laurie:
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g318/wingsunseen/Laurie.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on December 03, 2012, 03:23:27 PM
Nah, Lanktry has to be an incarnate @$$hole, skinny and possessed of a barely concealed disdain. 

To me that screams Hugh Laurie:
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g318/wingsunseen/Laurie.jpg)

(http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsL/9960-28851.jpg)

I can certainly see the disdain.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 03, 2012, 04:00:09 PM
I stand corrected, and bow to the Idea I should have had... To be honest, I threw it in to make a third choice... But I still hold to Micheal or Morgan... I think liam would do Justice to both roles
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 03, 2012, 04:31:30 PM
Liam Neeson would work great for Michael, but morgan needs to be a little more irrationally bitter, nearly (and literally) frothing at the mouth now and then.  Jim's comment of Clancy Brown works great for me, though I could see Denis Leary or a few others pulling it off as well. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: chameequa on December 03, 2012, 05:48:53 PM
Harry? Lee Pace or Joe Flanigan for looks, no question... though Nathan Fillion's personality is PERFECT, lol. 

I can't NOT think of Krista Allen whenever Lara Wraith is on the page...yowza... and someone else mentioned Brad Pitt for Thomas...but of course! Though Matt Bomer would work too.

Neal McDonough is stuck in my head as Morgan, even though he doesn't quite match the description...sometimes my brain refuses to agree with what's on the page, haha.

Karrin - I have a sort of miniature Jennifer Esposito with blue eyes in my head when I picture Murphy. 

Eva Mendes was my Susan...

and Sigourney Weaver (a'la Ghostbusters, all possessed) is my Leaninsidhe!

Joe Mangianello would be a great Michael. sigh.

Amber Tamblyn with blond hair is how I imagine Molly (again, I KNOW, not really a fit, based on the description, but the heart wants what it wants, lol)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 03, 2012, 06:11:53 PM
Harry? Lee Pace or Joe Flanigan for looks, no question... though Nathan Fillion's personality is PERFECT, lol. 

I can't NOT think of Krista Allen whenever Lara Wraith is on the page...yowza... and someone else mentioned Brad Pitt for Thomas...but of course! Though Matt Bomer would work too.

Neal McDonough is stuck in my head as Morgan, even though he doesn't quite match the description...sometimes my brain refuses to agree with what's on the page, haha.

Karrin - I have a sort of miniature Jennifer Esposito with blue eyes in my head when I picture Murphy. 

Eva Mendes was my Susan...

and Sigourney Weaver (a'la Ghostbusters, all possessed) is my Leaninsidhe!

Joe Mangianello would be a great Michael. sigh.

Amber Tamblyn with blond hair is how I imagine Molly (again, I KNOW, not really a fit, based on the description, but the heart wants what it wants, lol)

I'd peg Neil McDonough as Michael, actually.  I can see him doing the soft-spoken, righteous warrior bit, but he'd have to seriously bulk up, which might be a deal breaker.

I always see Michael as being a big guy.  Tall, fair skinned with big muscles... Of course, he does wear a suit of half-plate, and that would make him look bigger.

I don't seriously see Sigourney a s Lea.  Lea is fair-skinned with flaming-red hair.  I can't hear her as Lea either.

When I think of Molly, I see Ferusa Balk in The Craft -- without a lot of the attitude, though she came awfully close in GS...  But the look is almost perfect.  That said, The Craft was made a long time ago, and there's no way Ferusa could do molly now...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on December 04, 2012, 04:06:29 AM
Personally, I like Charles Dance for Langtry.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nOV_fqGmUCk/THAmFgxHXJI/AAAAAAAAAWQ/BGDqRwQuRW8/s1600/Charles+Dance.jpg)

Also, what about Javier Bardem as Duke Ortega?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 04, 2012, 04:27:16 AM
Personally, I like Charles Dance for Langtry.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nOV_fqGmUCk/THAmFgxHXJI/AAAAAAAAAWQ/BGDqRwQuRW8/s1600/Charles+Dance.jpg)

Also, what about Javier Bardem as Duke Ortega?

Never heard of Charles Dance, though I'm going to guess that he played Monte in The Golden Child...

what about Gary Oldman for Ortega?  He plays such a good bad guy... he might make a better Nicodemus.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 04, 2012, 04:30:43 AM
I would be ok with Gary Oldman as Nic. If I didn't like Jeffery Donovan for it so much.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on December 04, 2012, 04:49:16 AM
Personally, I like Charles Dance for Langtry.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nOV_fqGmUCk/THAmFgxHXJI/AAAAAAAAAWQ/BGDqRwQuRW8/s1600/Charles+Dance.jpg)

Also, what about Javier Bardem as Duke Ortega?

Awesome choice. And if we want to go all Game of Thrones on this, then we could always get Kit Harrington for Harry, Iain Glen for Morgan, Nickolaj Waldau for Thomas, Lena Heady for Lara, Ron Donachie for Mac, and Emilia Clarke for Molly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 04, 2012, 06:20:21 AM
I would be ok with Gary Oldman as Nic. If I didn't like Jeffery Donovan for it so much.

I don't see it.  I'll have to stick with Gary Oldman; I love how he plays a villain.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 04, 2012, 01:29:03 PM
Bardem seems just too old for what a nigh immortal conquistador would chose to look like, though he fits the personality well enough. 

Quote from: Death Masks
"He was of average height and slightly heavy build, with broad shoulders and a deep chest. He was dark-complected, his black hair neatly brushed, his grey-and-silver suit stylish and tasteful.

Id go with Edward James Olmos

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111031202431/bgso/images/1/15/ADama.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on December 04, 2012, 04:40:08 PM
This is one of my all time favorite threads.  It makes me smile every time I see a new post and we have a new actor to type cast and chew over in Dresden's world.

*tilts head*  In my head I can just imagine Bob chortling over our choices...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 04, 2012, 05:37:42 PM
Bardem seems just too old for what a nigh immortal conquistador would chose to look like, though he fits the personality well enough. 

Id go with Edward James Olmos

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111031202431/bgso/images/1/15/ADama.jpg)

I agree, at least Ortega has to be spanish in apearance... Olmos is Good, Or Antonio Banderas
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 04, 2012, 10:09:38 PM
I demand that I be cast as the voice of bob and Duckie be cast as the voice of Mab.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 04, 2012, 11:28:45 PM
A short list for Sanya: (in order of preference, but I'm willing to consider additions.)

Chiwetel Ejiofor
Aldis Hodge
Don Cheadle
Jamie Foxx
Cuba Gooding Jr.  -- truthfully, I'm not really seeing this one.

And Shiro;  I would say Mako, if he weren't dead -- which leaves me with only one real option: Ken Watanabe (Though I don't know if he's old enough, and Shiro was supposed to be rather short.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on December 05, 2012, 01:44:37 AM
For Sanya I'd suggest LL Cool J.  (If he can pull off the accent that is)  I love Aldis Hodge as an actor (and I'm confident he can pull off the accent) I don't think he's got the bulk and definition for it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 05, 2012, 03:11:34 AM
For Sanya I'd suggest LL Cool J.  (If he can pull off the accent that is)  I love Aldis Hodge as an actor (and I'm confident he can pull off the accent) I don't think he's got the bulk and definition for it.

Chiwetel Ejiofor played The Operative in Serenity, I'm not sure if he could do the accent, but I'm sure he has the definition.  Truthfully, I was trying to stay away from the people with funky names, but I guess LL Cool J. is pretty good in NCIS LA.

Wasn't Sanya described as having really dark skin?  I couldn't find any actors that matched my preconceptions of his complexion, though...

How about CCH Pounder as Martha Liberty?  It's rather a bit part, seeing as she's only been in one book.  She would have to bleach her hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 05, 2012, 01:25:40 PM
Ever since SmF I have pictured Michael Clarke Duncan as Sanya.  Not really an option any more, tragically.  He was a great actor, and one of the few I can think of that had the right level of physical might and an extreme jovial nature.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 05, 2012, 05:18:02 PM
Chiwetel Ejiofor played The Operative in Serenity, I'm not sure if he could do the accent, but I'm sure he has the definition.  Truthfully, I was trying to stay away from the people with funky names, but I guess LL Cool J. is pretty good in NCIS LA.

Wasn't Sanya described as having really dark skin?  I couldn't find any actors that matched my preconceptions of his complexion, though...

How about CCH Pounder as Martha Liberty?  It's rather a bit part, seeing as she's only been in one book.  She would have to bleach her hair.
If I am not mistaken, I think he played Morgan in the Series... I would go with either Michael Jai White or Don Cheetle ( I know he is a little thin, But for pulling off a Russian accent )
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on December 05, 2012, 05:28:08 PM
You mean Conrad Coates?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0167626/

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTcyNDg0MDMxNV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNzA3MjQ3._V1._SY314_CR11,0,214,314_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 06, 2012, 04:01:46 AM
Ever since SmF I have pictured Michael Clarke Duncan as Sanya.  Not really an option any more, tragically.  He was a great actor, and one of the few I can think of that had the right level of physical might and an extreme jovial nature.

Too big, anyway... I always saw Sanya as tall and thin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 06, 2012, 12:31:01 PM
Zachary Quinto – NO.  Just no.  Looks too short and too delicate.  He's like Tom Cruise with the intensity and physical ability removed.
Lee Pace – No, not fiery enough.  Too milquetoast.
Ryan Reynolds – No, too clean cut.  Harry’s had a lot of rough miles.  Ryan Reynolds doesn’t look it.  Ryan is just too damned pretty.
Hugh Jackman – Maybe.  Probably, too muscular.  Has the right face for it, though.
Clive Owen – Yes, he could work in this role.
Paul Bettany – No.  Blonde?  No way.  Might as well ask for Alexander Skarsgård from True Blood.
Timothy Olyphant – Maybe.
Nathan Fillion – No, too stocky.  He’s put on too much weight. He's also too old to play Harry.
Joe Flanigan – Maybe, but Olyphant would be better.
Chris Evans - No, too muscular.
Gerard Butler - No, too stocky.  He’s put on too much weight.
Neil Flynn - The Janitor from Scrubs?  Mike Heck from The Middle?  No, too old and I can't see him as Harry.
Jared Padalecki – No, too big and muscular.  I’d take Jensen Ackles over Jared for this role.
Paul Blackthorne – Yes.  Sure he's 2 years older than Fillion, but Paul looks OK in the role.

Nathan Fillion is winning?!?  You've GOT to be kidding.  Harry is younger and way thinner and more wirey than Fillion.  Fillion would have been an ~OK~ choice 10 years ago, but NOT now.  Look at him on "Castle" - can you really see him as Harry, NOW?  Castle Fillion looks like Firefly Fillion with your TV put on stretch.  Noooooo.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on December 06, 2012, 03:52:37 PM
I get what you're saying KoshN, but when I made my vote, which was for Fillion, I was thinking less about the look of the character and more about the feel. And of the people on that list, only Fillion could make Harry come alive on the screen. Paul would be a very close second, but Nathan would be able to inhabit the character.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Electric MacButters on December 06, 2012, 04:55:09 PM
I think Michael Cane would make a great Nicodemus.  He is the perfect counterpoint to the ravenous monsters and psychotics that make up the rest of the Denarians, and being cast as Nick would give him opportunities to give Harry one of his patented morality lectures, only this time it ends with "... and that, my dear boy, is why they all must die."

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Edited for spoilerieness
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 06, 2012, 06:08:52 PM
Too big, anyway... I always saw Sanya as tall and thin.
Honestly I did too at first, but ever since SmF, and especially Changes, he has been a much bigger and more physically intimidating guy.  He started as "tall young black man wearing a too small suit"  but by Changes "He was built like a pro­fes­sion­al line­man" and his landlady's arms "couldn't have gotten around half of him" when she tried to hug him. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on December 06, 2012, 08:21:44 PM
Zachary Quinto – NO.  Just no.  Looks too short and too delicate.  He's like Tom Cruise with the intensity and physical ability removed.
Tom Cruise is 5'6", Zachary Quinto is 6'1".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 06, 2012, 10:39:34 PM
Something Ive been trying to pin down.  Who out there has the feline grace and asymmetric yet roguishly charming features to pull of the Erlking?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on December 07, 2012, 12:07:22 AM
Something Ive been trying to pin down.  Who out there has the feline grace and asymmetric yet roguishly charming features to pull of the Erlking?

Isn't Gerard Butler supposed to play all roguishly handsome tough guys these days, or did that move on to someone else?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 07, 2012, 01:02:39 AM
Isn't Gerard Butler supposed to play all roguishly handsome tough guys these days, or did that move on to someone else?

I can't imagine the Erlking with a Scottish brogue, and I can't think of any movie Gerard Butler has been in, where he's had any other accent.  I can actually hear James Earl Jones doing the Erlking.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 07, 2012, 04:27:13 AM
Tom Cruise is 5'6", Zachary Quinto is 6'1".

Not seeing them side-by-side, they look about the same, body shape and upper-to-lower torso proportions.  Quinto does not look 6'1".  Maybe it's the size of his head that throws off my perception of his height. [shrug] Dunno.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 07, 2012, 04:29:27 AM
I wouldn't mention Tom Cruise in this thread. The pure hate for him might burn your face off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on December 07, 2012, 07:14:05 AM
It would be almost as bad as suggesting Justin Bieber for Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 07, 2012, 08:10:10 AM
It would be almost as bad as suggesting Justin Bieber for Thomas.

call the Lecter spectres.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 08, 2012, 12:48:44 AM
So has anyone mentioned Hank Green for butters?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Gilitine_Memitim on December 08, 2012, 12:53:26 AM
But Jim said he'd want to audition for Butters.......
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DeaSis on December 08, 2012, 01:23:19 AM
So has anyone mentioned Hank Green for butters?

I'm still holding out for Ryan Cartwright for Butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 08, 2012, 01:30:27 AM
But Jim said he'd want to audition for Butters.......
I don't think we could handle that. It might make us go crazy,
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 08, 2012, 09:02:37 AM
I wouldn't mention Tom Cruise in this thread. The pure hate for him might burn your face off.

I wasn't suggesting that Tom Cruise play ANYBODY from The Dresden Files, but was just comparing him to Quinto in general looks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 08, 2012, 09:05:03 AM
It would be almost as bad as suggesting Justin Bieber for Thomas.

Justin Bieber connected in ANY to The Dresden Files is hideously bad.  I CAN'T STAND Bieber.

The only time I enjoyed seeing Bieber on screen was in CSI when his character got shot multiple times and killed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 08, 2012, 09:07:29 AM
So has anyone mentioned Hank Green for butters?

IMHO, Matt Gordon from The Dresden Files TV show was fine as Butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on December 08, 2012, 03:11:26 PM
I don't think we could handle that. It might make us go crazy,

Well, it was almost that in the tv show. He was a coroner assistant
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tempus Corvus on December 08, 2012, 11:24:04 PM
I'd go with Richard Ayoade as Butters, actually.

And for some reason, I've just realized that my mental image of Arturo Genosa is Stanley Tucci.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 09, 2012, 02:33:24 AM
I cast this as the opening credit theme song for the first one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGRMhVMkQG0
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 09, 2012, 07:34:44 AM
I'd go with Richard Ayoade as Butters, actually.

And for some reason, I've just realized that my mental image of Arturo Genosa is Stanley Tucci.

I can't really see Stanley Tucci as a lovestruck porn director.  I have trouble envisioning him as anyone in the series, truthfully...

I keep hearing him in Undercover Blues "My name... is Muerte..."
Although I also liked him in Midsummer Night's Dream and he does a passably decent villain, especially when it's animated.

Once upon a time... I would have said Michael Ironside for Morgan...  Especially in SF and SK; Morgan was such an ass...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on December 09, 2012, 02:29:18 PM
This thread is an attempt to have folks share, through pictures/drawings/etc., the essence of how they see Dresden characters, when they create or come across them.  Personally, I have no artistic ability whatsoever, so when I see a photo that strikes a chord, I like to share it.  If there is any other art that anyone has come across, that strikes the essence of the Dresdenverse, I'd like to see it.

I frequently peruse different artists at DeviantArt.com.  Every once in a while, I find one that really stands out, and that's the case with Jaime Ibarra.  He seems to capture things in his photos that make them unique.  You can check out his profile here (http://jaimeibarra.deviantart.com/).

Renaissance Fair Knight.
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/267/9/3/the_last_good_fight_by_jaimeibarra-d5fq6a9.jpg)

Renaissance Fair... Fae?
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/269/a/9/fight_or_flight_by_jaimeibarra-d5fyl65.jpg)



Why this rant in the DF Books section?  Because while perusing his album (http://jaimeibarra.deviantart.com/), I came across pictures that somehow managed to capture the essence of a few Dresden character profiles to me.  The first was a collection of pictures of a model/photographer named Meagan (http://akemisatya.deviantart.com/), who captured an early Molly Carpenter to me.

Early Molly Carpenter.
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/319/7/b/7ba266cfef571cb1d149d5548155ce6d.jpg)

(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs49/f/2009/192/0/a/0a107f6a5377e43fb3a24671c052a38e.jpg)


But when I came across this picture, it inspired me to post here.  This is a picture of an un-named model/subject that is the perfect essence of Karrin Murphy, or at least how I see her. 
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/111/8/9/ojos_asi_by_jaimeibarra-d4x2bzg.jpg)


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on December 09, 2012, 06:27:36 PM
Man. I love Ibarra's photography. He's also got some up on 500 px (http://500px.com/ibarraphoto) and you can check out his website (http://ibarraphoto.com/). There is a lot of crossover between the three, but a least some unique pics on all of them.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 12, 2012, 07:30:23 PM
I Just had a very random and clever thought.... How about David Tennant As Waldo Butters.
( Yes... Doctor Who). I have recently Listened to a couple of audio books where he did an accent that would be passable as american.... But then again I probably wouldn't care if he kept his own.

Forget the fact that he would be playing a medical examiner who can't help but be honest.... I burst into laughter every time I imagine him screaming " POLKA WILL NEVER DIE "
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on December 12, 2012, 09:28:54 PM
I never thought of him as Butters but I think that just might work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 12, 2012, 10:02:46 PM
I could see it.  How does he do with borderline sniveling cowardice? 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on December 13, 2012, 09:13:47 AM
He could do it, but I think he might do well as a villain. Maybe Justin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 13, 2012, 01:57:25 PM
If he can do villain, he has the slightly gaunt look I always pictured for Nicodemus. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on December 13, 2012, 02:38:04 PM
He can do villain, but he's a little to good at sarcastic for Nic, I think. I could see him for Binder, maybe, as a villain.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 13, 2012, 04:08:09 PM
How about Johnny Lee Miller (from Elementary) as Harry Dresden?  ....only if he could hide his accent, of course.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 13, 2012, 04:23:35 PM
How about Johnny Lee Miller (from Elementary) as Harry Dresden?  ....only if he could hide his accent, of course.
He hid it well enough back in the day when he starred in Hackers, so he could probably pull it off.  But he doesnt really fit for me, Harry is described as more angular than that. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 13, 2012, 04:27:09 PM
He hid it well enough back in the day when he starred in Hackers, so he could probably pull it off.  But he doesnt really fit for me, Harry is described as more angular than that.

Johnny Lee Miller seems to be exactly the right look, to me, from looking at the covers of the novels, and the first graphic novel.  I like him on Elementary.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 13, 2012, 06:12:05 PM
OK, I was thinking how he looked in Hackers and the random bit parts he's had since then.  But I found this pic of him, and I gotta say you are right he fits the bill:

(http://i47.tinypic.com/1zywp3c.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 13, 2012, 06:13:03 PM
I'd be okay with that if he wasn't so british.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on December 13, 2012, 06:34:18 PM
I'd be okay with that if he wasn't so british.

If Eva Green can manage a flawless British Accent, and Hugh Laurie can make Americans think he's one of them, then accent is no problem.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 13, 2012, 06:40:02 PM
How dare a british person try to play an american idol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 13, 2012, 06:50:01 PM
Well while we are on the subject of actors who hide their accent well, Gary Oldman is a perfect example. For years He was working in Hollywood and I had no Idea he was british. Andrew Lincoln, Plays Rick Grimes on the "Walking Dead". And Just about Every man from the south in "True Blood" Also Britts. the only Guy who is actually from Louisiana in that show Is Eric, ( the vampire viking)
(sorry, tired and not googling all their names)

   Speaking of Oldman, Throw a dart and hit a villian he can do it, But I would love to see him play the good father Forthill
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on December 13, 2012, 08:51:30 PM
I always pictured her as older, but... Lea?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/59308_324259201021561_151455771_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 13, 2012, 08:53:32 PM
Id definately say Lea need to be a little older.  But she could do a Raith pretty well
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 13, 2012, 09:21:42 PM
Well while we are on the subject of actors who hide their accent well, Gary Oldman is a perfect example. For years He was working in Hollywood and I had no Idea he was british. Andrew Lincoln, Plays Rick Grimes on the "Walking Dead". And Just about Every man from the south in "True Blood" Also Britts. the only Guy who is actually from Louisiana in that show Is Eric, ( the vampire viking)
(sorry, tired and not googling all their names)

   Speaking of Oldman, Throw a dart and hit a villian he can do it, But I would love to see him play the good father Forthill

I've actually been thinking Ian Holm for Forthill.  He's played a priest twice before, that I know of; Once in The Fifth Element, where he played Fr. Vito Cornelius (a rather comical role, to be sure) and the other time was when he played the Wheelchair-bound Jesuit Priest in Bless the Child.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on December 13, 2012, 09:26:12 PM
Id definately say Lea need to be a little older.  But she could do a Raith pretty well

Maybe Lash? Her or Scarlett Johansson.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 13, 2012, 09:32:13 PM
I've actually been thinking Ian Holm for Forthill.  He's played a priest twice before, that I know of; Once in The Fifth Element, where he played Fr. Vito Cornelius (a rather comical role, to be sure) and the other time was when he played the Wheelchair-bound Jesuit Priest in Bless the Child.
Both Gary Oldman and Ian Hold would do great in the role, to be sure.  However, for some strange reason though I keep thinking an aged Mel Gibson would fit it nicely...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 13, 2012, 09:53:28 PM
Both Gary Oldman and Ian Hold would do great in the role, to be sure.  However, for some strange reason though I keep thinking an aged Mel Gibson would fit it nicely...

I can't really see Gary Oldman playing the soft-spoken Forthill

So far, my list is:
Michael: Neil McDonough
Forthill: Ian Holm
Mab/Titania: Michelle Pfeiffer
Rashid: Erick Avari
Arthur Langtree: Donald Sutherland
Listens to Wind: Graham Greene
Martha Liberty: C.C.H Pounder
Nicodemus: Gary Oldman
Odin/Vadderung/Kringle: Anthony Hopkins
Bob: Steve Buscemi

I had originally thought of Anthony Hopkins as John Marcone, but I think he's a little old for the gymnastics that Marcone gets up to.   I always saw Michael Ironside as Donald Morgan.  And while I hear James Earl Jones when I read the Erlking, I'm not sure I see him as the character.

Other actors I would love to find a part for (And I realize that you have to find an actor that fits the role, not vise-versa)
Jeremy Irons
Mark A. Sheppard
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 13, 2012, 10:10:44 PM
Odin/Vadderung/Kringle: Anthony Hopkins
Not typecasting him a little too much?   ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on December 13, 2012, 10:13:33 PM
Jeremy Irons = Erlking? Nicodemus? We need to find someone creepy for him to play.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 13, 2012, 10:23:21 PM
He could do Grevaine or Cassius perfectly though...

He looking a little older than I what I imagine for both Nic and the Erlking.  And the Erlking is supposed to be noticeably asymmetrical in his features. 

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 13, 2012, 11:57:28 PM
....american idol.

How I HATE those two words!  Conjures up memories of that worthless, piece-of-crap show, one of the main cancers of TV.  >:(  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 14, 2012, 12:05:13 AM
Speaking of Oldman, Throw a dart and hit a villian he can do it, But I would love to see him play the good father Forthill

I didn't like him as Dracula, at all.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 14, 2012, 12:08:30 AM
He could do it, but I think he might do well as a villain. Maybe Justin.

I wouldn't want to see David Tennant as a bad guy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on December 14, 2012, 12:08:50 AM
I wouldn't want to see David Tennant as a bad guy.

Then don't watch the Harry Potter movies...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 14, 2012, 12:14:03 AM
Then don't watch the Harry Potter movies...

Dresden's my bag, not Potter.  Potter's for kids.

How about Joanne Kelly as Lara Raith?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on December 14, 2012, 12:17:18 AM
Dresden's my bag, not Potter.  Potter's for kids.

How about Joanne Kelly as Lara Raith?

I would go with Jaime Murray from Warehouse 13 before Joanne Kelly. Joanne Kelly was already cast for Bianca in the series, however.

(http://watikalemon.com/watikalemon/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/01450-jaime-murray-cw70s-easy-money-premiere-durin-695x1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 14, 2012, 12:31:26 AM
I would go with Jaime Murray from Warehouse 13 before Joanne Kelly. Joanne Kelly was already cast for Bianca in the series, however.

(http://watikalemon.com/watikalemon/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/01450-jaime-murray-cw70s-easy-money-premiere-durin-695x1024.jpg)

Jaime Murray is another good choice for Lara Raith, but I think Joanne Kelly would be better.  As for Kelly already being cast as Bianca in the series, I didn't think we were bound by that.  Other actresses I'd like to cast in some Dresden roles are Jaime Ray Newman (one of the young faerie queens?), Lola Glaudini (Susan Rodriguez) and Natalie Zea (one of the young faerie queens?). (drool) 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on December 14, 2012, 12:39:52 AM
Jaime Murray is another good choice for Lara Raith, but I think Joanne Kelly would be better.  As for Kelly already being cast as Bianca in the series, I didn't think we were bound by that.  Other actresses I'd like to cast in some Dresden roles are Jaime Ray Newman (one of the young faerie queens?), Lola Glaudini (Susan Rodriguez) and Natalie Zea (one of the young faerie queens?). (drool)

Oh... I didn't mean to imply that we were. I was just pointing it out as a coincidence. I personally feel the opposite, but not too strongly. I just don't feel that Joanne Kelly can exude the sexuality that Lara would need.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 14, 2012, 12:41:35 AM
I can't really see Gary Oldman playing the soft-spoken Forthill

So far, my list is:
Michael: Neil McDonough
Forthill: Ian Holm
Mab/Titania: Michelle Pfeiffer
Rashid: Erick Avari
Arthur Langtree: Donald Sutherland
Listens to Wind: Graham Greene
Martha Liberty: C.C.H Pounder
Nicodemus: Gary Oldman
Odin/Vadderung/Kringle: Anthony Hopkins
Bob: Steve Buscemi

I had originally thought of Anthony Hopkins as John Marcone, but I think he's a little old for the gymnastics that Marcone gets up to.   I always saw Michael Ironside as Donald Morgan.  And while I hear James Earl Jones when I read the Erlking, I'm not sure I see him as the character.

Other actors I would love to find a part for (And I realize that you have to find an actor that fits the role, not vise-versa)
Jeremy Irons
Mark A. Sheppard

I forgot to mention Jeri Ryan as Gard

I didn't like him as Dracula, at all.

Are you kidding?! That was the best Dracula movie ever made.

How about Kevin Spacey for John Marcone?  He was a decent Lex Luthor, even if that movie was mostly suck...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mars447 on December 14, 2012, 02:53:35 AM
Mark Sheppard as Binder?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 14, 2012, 03:12:23 AM
Hes top of my list for that role
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 14, 2012, 03:15:09 AM
Mark Sheppard as Binder?

Don't really see it.  Not slippery enough.  Binder was a coward.  There might not be a character he would fit into...

On the other hand..

Am I crazy, or would Christian Kane make a decent Jared Kincaid.
Granted, he might not be tall enough, but something about him seems to fit.  Especially as Eliot Spencer in Leverage.  Kind of a darker version of Eliot.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on December 14, 2012, 07:46:41 AM
Eva Green for Lara Raith:
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2522/gqukmarch2009008ij6.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 14, 2012, 01:23:38 PM
Don't really see it.  Not slippery enough.  Binder was a coward.  There might not be a character he would fit into...
Have to disagree on both counts.  Binder was slippery, but not a coward at all.  He was intelligent, and that included a healthy understanding of his relative abilities vs full fledged members of the Council, and a healthy fear of the kind of monster Lara could be (which harry shared at that particular moment.  That being said, Mark Sheppard's character in Firefly struck a similar balance of small-fish arrogance with his character in Firefly. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on December 14, 2012, 02:28:06 PM
Have to disagree on both counts.  Binder was slippery, but not a coward at all.  He was intelligent, and that included a healthy understanding of his relative abilities vs full fledged members of the Council, and a healthy fear of the kind of monster Lara could be (which harry shared at that particular moment.  That being said, Mark Sheppard's character in Firefly struck a similar balance of small-fish arrogance with his character in Firefly.

His character in Supernatural also has about the same arrogance, that's what screamed Binder to me and is why I agree with you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on December 15, 2012, 03:16:24 PM
Don't know the name of the actress, and I still stand by Leven Rambin, but MOLLY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOjdXSrtUxA).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on December 15, 2012, 04:41:14 PM
Don't know the name of the actress, and I still stand by Leven Rambin, but MOLLY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOjdXSrtUxA).

Isabel Lucas. 
(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.4952901214733486&pid=15.1&W=112&H=160)   (http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4716270055326055&pid=15.1&H=160&W=123)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 15, 2012, 08:06:25 PM
Well, the thing about casting Molly, We are going to have to find a younger girl with potential to turn into the molly we know now. I can't remember the age we first meet molly, but it is going to have to be someone who can "grow" into the role.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on December 15, 2012, 08:38:39 PM
Well, the thing about casting Molly, We are going to have to find a younger girl with potential to turn into the molly we know now. I can't remember the age we first meet molly, but it is going to have to be someone who can "grow" into the role.

We first meet Molly when she's 14, but casting that young for future potential is REALLY tricky. It would be easier to cast a different actress for 14-y/o Molly than Molly in PG-onwards.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 17, 2012, 03:06:38 AM
I forgot to mention Jeri Ryan as Gard

Are you kidding?! That was the best Dracula movie ever made.

How about Kevin Spacey for John Marcone?  He was a decent Lex Luthor, even if that movie was mostly suck...

Jeri Ryan as Gard.  Good choice!
 Kevin Spacey for John Marcone.  Another good choice! 

The best Dracula movie ever made was "Horror pf Dracula" (1958).  Christopher Lee IS Dracula.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 19, 2012, 05:15:00 PM
Going to go out on a limb here and suggest something crazy.

Mcanally: Bruce Campbell

Because I think it would be awesome.  Or epically bad.  Nothing in between.
Though I don't think Bruce Campbell is a bad actor...  He gets a bad rap for being in a lot of corny SF movies -- and I don't count ED or AoD because those were meant to be corny.  He doesn't do a bad job as Sam Axe in Burn Notice, and I could see him playing Mac, because mac doesn't talk very much.  Some good makeup could give him just the right look...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 19, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
That could be interesting, but Im not sure he has the indeterminate, timeless age thing going for him that Mac needs
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on December 19, 2012, 06:37:37 PM
That could be interesting, but Im not sure he has the indeterminate, timeless age thing going for him that Mac needs

I've always imagined Mac to be Michael Chiklis.  Chiklis can communicate by looks and grunts better than anyone, can be both menacing and kind, and has the physique to be a bartender or a bruiser.

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BODAwODY0NjYwNl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDA3MjQ0Ng@@._V1._SY209_CR7,0,140,209_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on December 19, 2012, 06:41:22 PM
I've always imagined Mac to be Michael Chiklis.  Chiklis can communicate by looks and grunts better than anyone, can be both menacing and kind, and has the physique to be a bartender or a bruiser.

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BODAwODY0NjYwNl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDA3MjQ0Ng@@._V1._SY209_CR7,0,140,209_.jpg)

Agreed. I've seen Chiklis as Mac since the first time I came across him in one of the books. Cambell should still be in there somewhere for a different role even though I'm blanking on which one right now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 19, 2012, 06:53:12 PM
Isnt mac described as somewhat skinny?  I tend to picture somebody more like Jason Statham, or maybe a young Terry O'Quinn
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on December 19, 2012, 07:19:48 PM
Isnt mac described as somewhat skinny?  I tend to picture somebody more like Jason Statham, or maybe a young Terry O'Quinn

I think so.  And Statham might work.  But I always thought of Statham-with-hair as Kincaid.   

But I think my problem is, when I first read SF, the mailman immediately reminded me of Chiklis.  So he was in my head when I was introduced to Mac.  And Chiklis played Mackey on The Shield.  That, combined with the grunts, eyebrow lifts, and silent communication, permanently fixed Chiklis as my Mac.  That, and it seems like the guy hasn't aged in the last 20 years.  He looks the same, plus a few wrinkles. 

Of course, all my casting choices would have been for a series starting back in 2007, so most of my choices now don't work age-wise.

Agreed. I've seen Chiklis as Mac since the first time I came across him in one of the books. Cambell should still be in there somewhere for a different role even though I'm blanking on which one right now.

It's hard for me to imagine Campbell as anyone in the Dresdenverse.  Honestly, he's got to much snark and attitude to be anyone but Harry, and he can't be Harry.  Maybe a future character will fit.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 19, 2012, 07:31:24 PM
Bruce Cambell has got to be in the series somewhere, I am thinking Either Stallings, or Carmicheal... Definately a cop in S.I.
Paul Ben-Victor would be a close second, and would play which ever Cambell doesn't.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 19, 2012, 07:31:59 PM
Bruce Cambell has got to be in the series somewhere, I am thinking Either Stallings, or Carmicheal... Definately a cop in S.I.
Paul Ben-Victor would be a close second, and would play which ever Cambell doesn't.
...Genius!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 19, 2012, 07:37:21 PM
Wil-e-Coyote 8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Winter_Knight on December 20, 2012, 06:19:34 AM
Joan Crawford as Mab. XD

And in all seriousness, am I the only one who thinks this guy:

(http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-04/18/xin_11204051816170152028022.jpg)

David Krumholtz from Numb3rs, 10 Things I Hate About You etc.; is a perfect fit for Butters? :O
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 20, 2012, 06:38:30 AM
Joan Crawford as Mab. XD

And in all seriousness, am I the only one who thinks this guy:

(http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-04/18/xin_11204051816170152028022.jpg)

David Krumholtz from Numb3rs, 10 Things I Hate About You etc.; is a perfect fit for Butters? :O

Not sure... The guy that played Larry, on the other hand...

How about the guy that played his brother for Tilly?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 20, 2012, 07:27:08 AM
Nope, I've thought D. Krumholtz would be good for Butters for awhile.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 20, 2012, 07:29:58 AM
Nope, I've thought D. Krumholtz would be good for Butters for awhile.

I just can't see him screaming "Polka will never die!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 20, 2012, 01:57:50 PM
Nah, for me Butters will always be DJ Qualls
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 20, 2012, 04:28:24 PM
Nah, for me Butters will always be DJ Qualls

"From Bitch to Bull, baby!"

Fits as well as anyone else, I guess...

How about Willie Garson as Mortimer.  Not overweight, but I can see him in the part anyway.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on December 20, 2012, 04:38:37 PM
"From Bitch to Bull, baby!"

Fits as well as anyone else, I guess...

How about Willie Garson as Mortimer.  Not overweight, but I can see him in the part anyway.
He could definitely do the shyster bit pretty well.   I had pictured somebody more like Pruitt Taylor Vince or Mike McShane
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 20, 2012, 04:50:35 PM
He could definitely do the shyster bit pretty well.   I had pictured somebody more like Pruitt Taylor Vince or Mike McShane

I recognize the first one from the Pilot episode of Touching Evil.  Which has me thinking that Jeffrey Donovan could make a good Sir Stuart... But he might be better as Kincaid...

Now Chris Hemsworth as Sir Stuart...  That I could see. "He frowned for a moment as if in thought. It didn't look natural on him."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 20, 2012, 05:28:39 PM
Ok, a plus for "Mozzie" playing Mortimer... To me Butters is still David Tennant, or at least in the movie in my mind... Especially when you think about the fact of
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. Donovan is a good choice for Kincade, I would hope that he would play a part so close to Westen again.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Winter_Knight on December 20, 2012, 05:49:36 PM
I just can't see him screaming "Polka will never die!"

In that case, I really recommend you see 10 Things I Hate About You. XD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on December 20, 2012, 06:08:13 PM
It's hard for me to imagine Campbell as anyone in the Dresdenverse.  Honestly, he's got to much snark and attitude to be anyone but Harry, and he can't be Harry.  Maybe a future character will fit.

That's why I was having so much trouble with him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on December 20, 2012, 11:32:51 PM
Nah, David Tennant is
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 20, 2012, 11:48:46 PM
Nah, David Tennant is
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Not seeing the spiteful bully in David Tennant.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on December 21, 2012, 12:25:37 AM
I am imagining Butters somewhat like Rory Williams
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 21, 2012, 12:35:16 AM
I am imagining Butters somewhat like Rory Williams

I can understand why Jim would want to audition for butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on December 21, 2012, 10:25:56 PM
Not seeing the spiteful bully in David Tennant.

Have you seen any of his villain roles?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 22, 2012, 12:40:31 AM
Have you seen any of his villain roles?

Don't think so. -- As it turns out, I have, but I didn't pay much attention to the Other Harry Movies... The books were better.

I just thought of this: Brian Dietzen for Butters (Might just be the fact that I've already seen him play a nerdy M.E.)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 23, 2012, 05:50:39 PM
Alright, For the part of Mab/Titania, I am thinking Charlize Theron
And for Maeve/Sarissa, Blake lively

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 24, 2012, 06:53:54 AM
Alright, For the part of Mab/Titania, I am thinking Charlize Theron
And for Maeve/Sarissa, Blake lively

I just cannot see Charlize Theron as Mab.  Her bearing is all wrong.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 24, 2012, 11:29:01 AM
I have always pictured Butters as a Gene Kelly sort...
(http://static.paulsmith.co.uk/images/width730/genekelly-14247.jpg)
Not so much helmet haired, of course.

The picture looks like Harry's stage magician dad from the TV show.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 24, 2012, 11:34:11 AM
I just cannot see Charlize Theron as Mab.  Her bearing is all wrong.

I dunno; she seems to be able to play ice queen pretty well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on December 24, 2012, 04:10:10 PM
I think she is perfect, I had said it already.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 24, 2012, 08:32:49 PM
I wonder what Xander from buffy looks like now...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on December 24, 2012, 09:26:14 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_S8NvEtc8_m8/TKkPgPnMbSI/AAAAAAAADyU/Cph0yIGIjOo/s1600/Buffyfest+Nick+Brendon.jpg)

This is him in 2010
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on December 24, 2012, 09:53:25 PM
He looks old. Too old for harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 25, 2012, 09:28:52 AM
How about Chris Hemsworth as Harry?  He's about the right age, and he's also just about the only male actor under 30 who doesn't look too boyish...  I can almost hear him saying some of Harry's lines, but I'm not quite sure...

The only thing I know is that Paul Blackthorne is way too old.  At least for SF-Harry.  And I can't hear him saying the line from Changes about letting the world burn and roasting marshmallows with Maggie...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 25, 2012, 12:25:12 PM
How about Chris Hemsworth as Harry?  He's about the right age, and he's also just about the only male actor under 30 who doesn't look too boyish...  I can almost hear him saying some of Harry's lines, but I'm not quite sure...

The only thing I know is that Paul Blackthorne is way too old.  At least for SF-Harry.  And I can't hear him saying the line from Changes about letting the world burn and roasting marshmallows with Maggie...

WOW! Really? You want Thor to play Harry Dresden..... I Know He can pull off the serious side, But I need to see him play something mostly comedic, or hear him read for Harry before I sign off on him.... If he were a bit older I could see him very much as Micheal.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 25, 2012, 05:54:24 PM
WOW! Really? You want Thor to play Harry Dresden..... I Know He can pull off the serious side, But I need to see him play something mostly comedic, or hear him read for Harry before I sign off on him.... If he were a bit older I could see him very much as Micheal.

I don't necessarily want him to play Harry, but I don't know of any other actors that could.  And to say it's Thor playing Dresden is a disservice to the actor.  It's fine to say HeyItsThatGuy, but that's the same reason that Mark Hamill only did B movies and voice acting after Star Wars.

Granted, I've only seen Christopher Hemsworth play Thor and The Huntsman, but I am willing to think he might be able to do other kinds of roles.  Though Harry has dark hair, and Hemsworth is blond, and I don't know how he'd look if they died his hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 25, 2012, 08:14:38 PM
I was kidding on the Thor comment, I am an old guy, well the same age group as Harry, and the one thing I love about TV and Movies now is that it is harder for a stigma to Stick on actors... I am a firm believer that Type casting is wrong, to Not hire someone because they were known as a character is wrong.  More than a few from when I was coming up are making a come back in a big way.

    I believe that if a tv show, or movie were in the works, Casting Harry is going to be the hardest part.  No One who is already famous fits the mold right.  I would hope that the casting director would spend a lot of time, and cast hard because I believe in my heart of hearts that our Harry is going to be an Unknown actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Orbweaver on December 25, 2012, 09:25:22 PM
I'm going to do something crazy, and suggest Tilda Swinton as Mab.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 25, 2012, 09:33:13 PM
I was kidding on the Thor comment, I am an old guy, well the same age group as Harry, and the one thing I love about TV and Movies now is that it is harder for a stigma to Stick on actors... I am a firm believer that Type casting is wrong, to Not hire someone because they were known as a character is wrong.  More than a few from when I was coming up are making a come back in a big way.

    I believe that if a tv show, or movie were in the works, Casting Harry is going to be the hardest part.  No One who is already famous fits the mold right.  I would hope that the casting director would spend a lot of time, and cast hard because I believe in my heart of hearts that our Harry is going to be an Unknown actor.

On the other hand, very few actors these days seem to break out of the mold of the character that made them famous.  So few can completely disappear into the role.  Then too, certain actors get cast repeatedly as the same type of character, to the point where they are always seen as that character.

A good example of this is Bruce Willis, who seems to play a lot of renegade cops (not necessarily dirty, just cops that don't like to play by the rules) -- Die Hard, 16 Blocks, Last Boyscout
His character in Unbreakable was of a similar mold, but not quite the same, and he's played a few other characters that were different enough, but they're almost always action movies.

Mel Gibson plays a number of characters with strong similarities to Martin Riggs (Lethal Weapon) -- Tragic past is a common theme.  That said: He did a fabulous job as Lt. Gen. Hal Moore in We Were Soldiers.

Johnny Depp is a decent actor, but lately it seems like every movie he's in becomes Johnny Depp Does Stuff (f/ex. Alice in Wonderland, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Sweeney Todd)  He was great as Jack Sparrow.  I liked how he played an a$$hole in Once Upon a Time in Mexico and his earlier movies like Edward Scissorhands and Benny and Joon were shear genius.  It's unfortunate that film-makers seem to see a need to tailor roles to fit him like Stanley Kubrick did for Jack Nicholson in The Shining, he's capable of so much more.

I'm going to do something crazy, and suggest Tilda Swinton as Mab.

She was excellent as the Witch in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.  She would run a close second to Michelle Pfeiffer for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 25, 2012, 09:54:33 PM
A lot of Johnny Depp's latest movies are with Tim Burton and Burton has a certain way
he wants things done so that's why a lot of Depps roles seem so simular.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 25, 2012, 11:00:45 PM
A lot of Johnny Depp's latest movies are with Tim Burton and Burton has a certain way
he wants things done so that's why a lot of Depps roles seem so simular.

Burton is a good director, but I think I'd want Guillermo Del Toro for Dresden Files...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on December 26, 2012, 12:02:53 AM
Burton is a good director, but I think I'd want Guillermo Del Toro for Dresden Files...

There is only one man I would want directing the DF, either in movie or TV format.

The great and powerful Whedon.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on December 26, 2012, 02:49:11 AM
^
Yeah, verily yeah!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on December 26, 2012, 06:49:14 PM
I'm going to do something crazy, and suggest Tilda Swinton as Mab.

Excellent.  Cate Blanchett would be another great choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on December 27, 2012, 06:20:48 AM
There is only one man I would want directing the DF, either in movie or TV format.

The great and powerful Whedon.

The only series Whedon made that I liked was Firefly.  Out of all of Buffy and Angel, I liked exactly one episode of each.  The nightmare episode of Buffy, where the kid was projecting from a coma and causing everyone's worst fears to come to life.  With Angel, it was Smile Time.

Serenity was a good movie, and it didn't leave too much out considering time constraints, but I think I would like to see Dresden done in the style of Hellboy, as opposed to the style of Angel/Buffy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 27, 2012, 06:55:45 AM
If we are talking production, and another TV series, I would steal some of the people who put together THE WALKING DEAD I think most fans would agree, that show holds the most true to a crossover from book/comic to tv than anything on else on tv. Also, the creater of the book has creative control, and if there are changes made... he is directly involved.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on December 27, 2012, 06:12:52 PM
Ok, going back through Death Masks and I saw a description of Marcone that I had forgotten... With it I got an Image of him in my mind, that is not my current favorite.... Richard Burgi... I saw Bruce Greenwood... For those of you who do not know who he is, Captian Christopher Pike... 2009 Star Trek. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on January 03, 2013, 04:34:52 AM
This guy is almost certainly not an actor, but he has Eb's expression during the 'Suuuper Genius' scene down pat.

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/5/2/3/160523.jpg?v=1)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on January 04, 2013, 04:31:23 AM
My choice for the
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on January 04, 2013, 05:22:01 AM
My choice for the
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(http://www.google.com/imgres?start=98&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&tbo=d&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbnid=yZ7sge_0JHTvnM:&imgrefurl=http://www.scifinow.co.uk/news/26315/robocop-reboot-gains-jackie-earle-haley/&docid=ZmTeuVvOWSG7MM&imgurl=http://www.scifinow.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Jackie-Earle-Healy-Robocop.jpg&w=616&h=371&ei=dVnmUIaoKonS9ASq8IC4Dw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=615&vpy=161&dur=2006&hovh=174&hovw=289&tx=192&ty=128&sig=111129083413377589148&page=4&tbnh=139&tbnw=213&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:100,i:10)

Not NEARLY pretty enough - he's still a Sidhe. Also, the image appears to be broken - I had to copy-paste to the address bar (could just be Chrome).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 04, 2013, 05:37:44 AM
Not NEARLY pretty enough - he's still a Sidhe. Also, the image appears to be broken - I had to copy-paste to the address bar (could just be Chrome).

Not just chrome.  Firefox too.  I didn't even look at the source for an image.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 04, 2013, 05:38:27 AM
I know why it didn't work. You have to get the image all the way by itself.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 04, 2013, 06:13:56 AM
(http://www.scifinow.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Jackie-Earle-Healy-Robocop.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 04, 2013, 06:26:43 AM
(http://www.scifinow.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Jackie-Earle-Healy-Robocop.jpg)

not that bad in RL... there's a picture of him wearing blue-tinted glasses over light blue eyes.  Makes him look kinda creepy.

I think Stanley Tucci could do a credible job...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vondrakenhof on January 04, 2013, 08:49:22 AM
Not sure if anyone has suggested this (I am not reading through the entire thread) but give Nathan Fillion a beard and I think he'd be a perfect Michael. Just throwing it out there.

Also Anne Hathaway as Lara and Bob Hoskins as Eb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on January 04, 2013, 04:33:18 PM
Not sure if anyone has suggested this (I am not reading through the entire thread) but give Nathan Fillion a beard and I think he'd be a perfect Michael. Just throwing it out there.

Also Anne Hathaway as Lara and Bob Hoskins as Eb.

I hadn't considered him as Michael - he might be able to do it, and it would be interesting see him play straight-man for once.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 04, 2013, 06:22:18 PM
I like Nathan Fillion but I don't think he's big enough for Michael.
Except that he's too young - Chris Hemsworth would be great for Michael.
Shecky's suggestion was the guy who played the Mountie on Due South. Can't think of his name.

I don't see Anne Hathaway for Lara.  Lara makes men want to spontaneously combust
just by standing there and I'm afraid that Hathaway doesn't do that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on January 04, 2013, 06:59:48 PM
I like Nathan Fillion but I don't think he's big enough for Michael.
Except that he's too young - Chris Hemsworth would be great for Michael.
Shecky's suggestion was the guy who played the Mountie on Due South. Can't think of his name.

I don't see Anne Hathaway for Lara.  Lara makes men want to spontaneously combust
just by standing there and I'm afraid that Hathaway doesn't do that.

Eva Green for Lara?

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TLt55ssHKdk/T-ny8UFnP-I/AAAAAAAABRM/EO6QvuLdTDQ/s1600/Eva%2BGreen%2B8.jpg)

Also, Rachel Mcadams could be the Faerie ladies:

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3Xc9cPjsaltzAiZL-6X47q7ae3vRnPrvRVij7PR61SyLSVruyZncNXJfW)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 04, 2013, 07:02:36 PM
Better but I see Lara as somewhat older.
Green might make a good Inari.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on January 05, 2013, 11:52:40 AM
I hadn't considered him as Michael - he might be able to do it, and it would be interesting see him play straight-man for once.

I can't believe how many votes Nathan Fillion got to be Harry! :o  Nathan is waaay too old and portly.  Back in his Firefly (TV) days maaaybe, but NOT NOW.  He'd have to lose at least 50 pounds and then be stretched on a rack. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on January 05, 2013, 02:54:47 PM
I can't believe how many votes Nathan Fillion got to be Harry! :o  Nathan is waaay too old and portly.  Back in his Firefly (TV) days maaaybe, but NOT NOW.  He'd have to lose at least 50 pounds and then be stretched on a rack.

Playing Harry is more about the ability to pull off the emotional range. I mean... I wouldn't want a 4 foot tall octogenarian, but if the actor can successfully carry the range between righteous wrath, bumbling uncertainty, and snarky irreverence, I wouldn't object to him playing the role. Nathan Fillion can hit all of those notes well, and has facial expressions that add much more cowbell to the writer generated snarky lines.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: mdodd on January 05, 2013, 09:06:25 PM
Playing Harry is more about the ability to pull off the emotional range. I mean... I wouldn't want a 4 foot tall octogenarian, but if the actor can successfully carry the range between righteous wrath, bumbling uncertainty, and snarky irreverence, I wouldn't object to him playing the role. Nathan Fillion can hit all of those notes well, and has facial expressions that add much more cowbell to the writer generated snarky lines.
That rules Tom Cruise out then.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DragonEyes on January 05, 2013, 09:10:02 PM
That rules Tom Cruise out then.

He's not an Octogenarian yet... Though it would help if he had more than two expressions.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 05, 2013, 09:16:11 PM
Playing Harry is more about the ability to pull off the emotional range. I mean... I wouldn't want a 4 foot tall octogenarian, but if the actor can successfully carry the range between righteous wrath, bumbling uncertainty, and snarky irreverence, I wouldn't object to him playing the role. Nathan Fillion can hit all of those notes well, and has facial expressions that add much more cowbell to the writer generated snarky lines.

I have trouble seeing Nathan Fillion as Harry, but the character of Mal fits at some points.

"... the last thing you smell will be my stinking breath."
(beat) *nods* "Darn." *kicks guy backwards into engine intake.*

"What makes you think you can..."
"Infriga! ... Forzare."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tami Seven on January 06, 2013, 03:31:32 PM
How about Joe Manganiello (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0542133/) to play Harry?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 06, 2013, 06:05:59 PM
How about Joe Manganiello (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0542133/) to play Harry?

Only thing I've ever seen him in was Spiderman, and I don't recall him having much presence there.  IIRC he was the bully.

Here's a thought:

Carlos Ramirez -- Eric Balfour.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: TruffleShufflen on January 07, 2013, 03:51:02 AM
I actually enjoyed Paul Blackthorne as Harry in the Television series. He has the same rugged look and his sarcastic smile would be perfect. I also enjoyed Valerie Cruz as Murphy, her hair just has to be dyed blonde and put in blue contacts and she'll look just like her. And for Bob, I would personally like to see someone that is really funny and goofy, like Bill Murray or someone of that nature.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: TruffleShufflen on January 07, 2013, 03:54:45 AM
Or I could see Timothy Olyphant being a good Dresden as well. I can't really pick one out of Timothy Olyphant, Nathan Fillion, or Paul Blackthorne.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 07, 2013, 05:01:51 AM
Or I could see Timothy Olyphant being a good Dresden as well. I can't really pick one out of Timothy Olyphant, Nathan Fillion, or Paul Blackthorne.

Olyphant is better than Blackthorne.  I like Nathan Fillion as much as the next person, but he just isn't right for Harry.  They'd still have to do camera tricks to make him stand head and shoulders over the rest of the cast.  Except for Sanya and the Gatekeeper...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vondrakenhof on January 07, 2013, 08:42:50 AM
Eva Green for Lara?

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TLt55ssHKdk/T-ny8UFnP-I/AAAAAAAABRM/EO6QvuLdTDQ/s1600/Eva%2BGreen%2B8.jpg)

Also, Rachel Mcadams could be the Faerie ladies:

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3Xc9cPjsaltzAiZL-6X47q7ae3vRnPrvRVij7PR61SyLSVruyZncNXJfW)

Ok forget I said Anne Hathaway and let's go for Eva Green instead. Inspired choice!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on January 07, 2013, 09:53:06 AM
Playing Harry is more about the ability to pull off the emotional range. I mean... I wouldn't want a 4 foot tall octogenarian, but if the actor can successfully carry the range between righteous wrath, bumbling uncertainty, and snarky irreverence, I wouldn't object to him playing the role.

That description just conjured up Jonny Lee Miller's Sherlock Holmes in "Elementary," for me.  Picture him with long hair and in the clothing of one of The Dresden Files book covers.   ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 08, 2013, 04:29:31 PM
Only thing I've ever seen him in was Spiderman, and I don't recall him having much presence there.  IIRC he was the bully.

Here's a thought:

Carlos Ramirez -- Eric Balfour.

I like Eric Balfour for Harry, if he weren't so muscular. He has the full emotional range, the height, the dark looks, a wizard nose and chin, and does great snark.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 08, 2013, 06:47:45 PM
I like Eric Balfour for Harry, if he weren't so muscular. He has the full emotional range, the height, the dark looks, a wizard nose and chin, and does great snark.

Balfour doesn't look anything like how I picture Harry, and I don't see him doing the insouciant banter.

I think Brad Pitt would actually be a good match for Harry, if he weren't so much older.  I mean, he has the insouciant banter thing, he can do action movies and drama, and I can actually hear him saying a lot of the things Harry says.  Of course having him play someone with a brother that looks like (to my mind's eye) Stewart Townsend, could be a problem
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 09, 2013, 12:33:36 AM
Im surprised that Im saying this because I dont have much respect for her body of work, or much respect for her as a person (which is based purely on the tabloids and so probably unfair), but I think that is actually part of why I think she could fit the role. 
So I put forth:

Kristen Stewart for Maeve

(http://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/RichImageService.svc/imagecontent/1/TMG9679738/m/kristen-getty-main_2399254a.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 09, 2013, 12:56:37 AM
Im surprised that Im saying this because I dont have much respect for her body of work, or much respect for her as a person (which is based purely on the tabloids and so probably unfair), but I think that is actually part of why I think she could fit the role. 
So I put forth:

Kristen Stewart for Maeve

(http://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/RichImageService.svc/imagecontent/1/TMG9679738/m/kristen-getty-main_2399254a.jpg)

I could see Maeve wearing that outfit... if the bottom looked more like the top.  And then make it varying shades of arctic colors.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 09, 2013, 03:56:02 AM
Whoever plays Maeve has to be able to act. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 09, 2013, 01:42:55 PM
Whoever plays Maeve has to be able to act. ::) ::)
Not thaaat much.  I mean, she isnt exactly a deep character for the most part.  I dont think "over-the-top Kinktress" would require an Oscar performance
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Vondrakenhof on January 09, 2013, 03:09:12 PM
Not thaaat much.  I mean, she isnt exactly a deep character for the most part.  I dont think "over-the-top Kinktress" would require an Oscar performance

It still requires more than she can do. I went to see Snow White and the Huntsman, Stewart brought the whole thing down.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 09, 2013, 07:09:54 PM
It still requires more than she can do. I went to see Snow White and the Huntsman, Stewart brought the whole thing down.

That movie was hardly a stellar example of Chris Hemsworth's acting abilities either.  My favorite was Bob Hoskins.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on January 09, 2013, 07:21:48 PM
It still requires more than she can do. I went to see Snow White and the Huntsman, Stewart brought the whole thing down.

Its generally a bad sign for a Snow White movie if you go into it rooting for the queen over SW.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on January 09, 2013, 07:25:02 PM
No Kristen Stewart.  Nix.  No way.  Yuck.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on January 09, 2013, 07:48:51 PM
No Kristen Stewart.  Nix.  No way.  Yuck.

Agrees with this wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zohak on January 10, 2013, 08:18:19 AM
Geoff Stults for Harry Dresden
He is 6, 4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Stults
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0836176/

http://peerie.com/Acting/33429/Geoff-Stults/


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: TheDeanius on January 10, 2013, 02:03:10 PM
Has anyone seen this chick?
She would make an awesome Fairy Lady, either Summer or Winter...
Shantel Knight:
https://plus.google.com/104001316371093211391/posts (https://plus.google.com/104001316371093211391/posts)
See this image specifically... It was taken for an RGP game called "Where's My Spellbook: but you can see why i think what i do, im sure...
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nsmRgexHM3Y/UBKc2oOADWI/AAAAAAAAAVY/wAfqGLIBWQg/s500/tornresized.jpg (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nsmRgexHM3Y/UBKc2oOADWI/AAAAAAAAAVY/wAfqGLIBWQg/s500/tornresized.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 10, 2013, 04:58:12 PM
Geoff Stults for Harry Dresden
He is 6, 4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Stults
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0836176/

http://peerie.com/Acting/33429/Geoff-Stults/
He hasn't been in anything that I would have come within a mile of, so I can't really say.  Lately, however, I've started thinking about Ben Browder.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 10, 2013, 06:00:15 PM
He hasn't been in anything that I would have come within a mile of, so I can't really say.  Lately, however, I've started thinking about Ben Browder.
I really like Ben Browder, but I dont see him as having the right level of Personally Intimidating Presence that Harry has.  Or the same level of barely controlled Rage seething beneath the surface
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 10, 2013, 06:15:22 PM
I really like Ben Browder, but I dont see him as having the right level of Personally Intimidating Presence that Harry has.  Or the same level of barely controlled Rage seething beneath the surface

I think he could do it.  I really do.  He has the snark for it, from what I remember of Farscape...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 10, 2013, 06:18:13 PM
I think he could do it.  I really do.  He has the snark for it, from what I remember of Farscape...
Oh he definately has the snark.  Its the Power and Rage that I didnt see too much in Farscape, or Stargate.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 10, 2013, 06:22:13 PM
Oh he definately has the snark.  Its the Power and Rage that I didnt see too much in Farscape, or Stargate.

Well... That's why they call it acting.  Plus, I can see him dressed like Harry, wearing a beat-up old duster and wondering what people have against his wardrobe...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 10, 2013, 06:24:48 PM
Well... That's why they call it acting.  Plus, I can see him dressed like Harry, wearing a beat-up old duster and wondering what people have against his wardrobe...
You miss my point.  He tried for rage a number of times, he just didnt pull it off to the level that harry would regularly need
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on January 10, 2013, 09:51:58 PM
As much as I love Ben Browder (and everything Farscape), I just can't picture him as Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 10, 2013, 09:53:07 PM
You miss my point.  He tried for rage a number of times, he just didnt pull it off to the level that harry would regularly need

I disagree.  Although, just the two series are hardly a means by which to judge his full capabilities.  Were you, by any chance, thinking of the final episode of SG-1 when you said it wasn't enough rage?

I can't recall any specific "rage" scenes from Farscape at the moment, but that scene from Unending isn't too much short of what I recall seeing from Harry.

As much as I love Ben Browder (and everything Farscape), I just can't picture him as Harry.

I'd never have guessed you were a Farscape fan  :P

And the more I think about BB as Harry, the more I like the Idea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on January 10, 2013, 09:55:24 PM
I don't see him as Harry (but then, I was always ok with Blackthorne)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 10, 2013, 10:01:01 PM
And I never liked Blackthorne.

Insert the Rod, John. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qlyqizEdlw)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 10, 2013, 10:19:18 PM
I disagree.  Although, just the two series are hardly a means by which to judge his full capabilities.  Were you, by any chance, thinking of the final episode of SG-1 when you said it wasn't enough rage?

I can't recall any specific "rage" scenes from Farscape at the moment, but that scene from Unending isn't too much short of what I recall seeing from Harry.
Ill admit I dont remember much from the last season of SG1, but in Farscape he had a number of rage moments, especially a few in PeaceKeeper Wars, that literally had the spittle flying, but never struck me as the same flavor as harry, that slowly sleething, barely controlled type.  Blackthorne has it, especially these days in Arrow, but with Browder it just didnt feel the same to me.  /Shrug  Im probably not saying this right.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 10, 2013, 11:05:57 PM
Ill admit I dont remember much from the last season of SG1, but in Farscape he had a number of rage moments, especially a few in PeaceKeeper Wars, that literally had the spittle flying, but never struck me as the same flavor as harry, that slowly sleething, barely controlled type.  Blackthorne has it, especially these days in Arrow, but with Browder it just didnt feel the same to me.  /Shrug  Im probably not saying this right.

Well, personal opinions can be like that.  And it isn't like it's an earthshaking decision, but I never liked PB as Harry, he just didn't look right, he didn't sound right and he didn't move right.

All of that I can imagine in Browder.  But, again, that's just me.

SG-1 Unending: Have You Ever Seen the Rain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTxiSURRsnk)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on January 11, 2013, 12:13:14 PM
David Bowie for the Erlking.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 11, 2013, 05:13:04 PM
David Bowie for the Erlking.
Ouch, that hurts.  He is a whole different kind of Goblin King.  I dont think the Erlking would rock that kind of codpiece  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 11, 2013, 05:21:31 PM
Ouch, that hurts.  He is a whole different kind of Goblin King.  I dont think the Erlking would rock that kind of codpiece  :P

Only one choice.  Rutger Hauer.  Although I haven't seen him in anything since The Tenth Kingdom.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on January 12, 2013, 07:41:57 PM
As much as I love Ben Browder (and everything Farscape), I just can't picture him as Harry.

I agree and disagree... Ben is a great actor, I saw him recently in a doctor who episode of all places playing a texas sherriff in the old west.  I think he can pull off the attitude perfectly... but he is the wrong height and body style. I hold to my earlier statements saying that the part of Harry is going to have to be cast most likely to an unknown actor. No one in the public eye currently is quite right in my opinion.

Now speaking of farscape, if I were casting for Storm Front I would have Ben and Claudia play the part of Mr. and Mrs. Bennett.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 12, 2013, 07:48:04 PM
I agree and disagree... Ben is a great actor, I saw him recently in a doctor who episode of all places playing a texas sherriff in the old west.  I think he can pull off the attitude perfectly... but he is the wrong height and body style. I hold to my earlier statements saying that the part of Harry is going to have to be cast most likely to an unknown actor. No one in the public eye currently is quite right in my opinion.

Now speaking of farscape, if I were casting for Storm Front I would have Ben and Claudia play the part of Mr. and Mrs. Bennett.

The height can be fiddled with camera tricks.  As for body type, I can see it perfectly.  I do NOT see Claudia Black as Helen Beckett.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on January 12, 2013, 10:19:19 PM
I don't see him as Harry (but then, I was always ok with Blackthorne)

I agree completely.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on January 12, 2013, 10:31:26 PM
Well, personal opinions can be like that.  And it isn't like it's an earthshaking decision, but I never liked PB as Harry, he just didn't look right, he didn't sound right and he didn't move right.

All of that I can imagine in Browder.  But, again, that's just me.

SG-1 Unending: Have You Ever Seen the Rain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTxiSURRsnk)

Perhaps it's because I first saw Paul Blackthorne AS Harry Dresden, but I think he did a great job as Harry, and he's who I visualize when I'm reading the books.  I would not be upset if he reprised that role in the future.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on January 13, 2013, 07:45:31 PM
Don't know if this counts as casting as such, but in my head, Demonreach sounds like a non-machine version of Harbinger.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 13, 2013, 08:02:14 PM
Don't know if this counts as casting as such, but in my head, Demonreach sounds like a non-machine version of Harbinger.

???  Who?  Is this a comic book character?  Because you obviously aren't talking about the Walker.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on January 13, 2013, 09:18:53 PM
???  Who?  Is this a comic book character?  Because you obviously aren't talking about the Walker.

This guy: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxEqtZnD_1E)

(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/500/1260891-harbinger4_super.jpg)

REALLY deep, menacing voice that would be perfect for DR without the machine-filter/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 14, 2013, 02:34:19 AM
This guy: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxEqtZnD_1E)

(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/500/1260891-harbinger4_super.jpg)

REALLY deep, menacing voice that would be perfect for DR without the machine-filter/

That from Mass Effect?  I've never played it.

Ideas for Nicodemus:
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on January 14, 2013, 10:04:08 AM
I personally never had a problem with blackstone, but then again, I saw the show before I read the books. That being saidI wouldn't mind him playing Harry's dad in the flashbacks and dream sequence where Harry talked to him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on January 14, 2013, 11:40:03 AM
That from Mass Effect?  I've never played it.

Ideas for Nicodemus:
  • Anthony Michael Hall
  • Willem DaFoe
  • Christopher Walkin

Yep, from ME. For me, Nick will forever be Benedict Cumberbatch.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Miska on January 14, 2013, 03:24:04 PM
I personally never had a problem with blackstone, but then again, I saw the show before I read the books. That being saidI wouldn't mind him playing Harry's dad in the flashbacks and dream sequence where Harry talked to him.

I have to agree with Blackstone as Harry. I honestly couldn't see any of the actors on the poll as Harry, fine actors that many of them are. We all tend to cast any book with our own preferences in mind. I haven't done through all these posts yet, but I don't remember anyone casting Molly yet. And I have no idea who would work. I do have a Butters though. Geoffrey Arend of Body of  Proof tv show. http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/A_F/Bi_Bp/Body_of_Proof/season2/body-of-proof-194.jpg He's even got his own Andi-he's married to Christina Hendricks- our Mrs Reynolds/the redhead from Mad Men. Only one problem. Butters is a short little guy-Geoffrey is 6'3". Sigh we just can't win.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on January 14, 2013, 04:20:26 PM
Michael Wincott as Nic.

(http://c420561.r61.cf1.rackcdn.com/4/37207-266702.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 14, 2013, 04:26:40 PM
I dunno, he looks a little too weathered these days, an I always picture Nic as still being immortally youngish.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on January 14, 2013, 04:30:11 PM
I think for me, it's the combination of his voice and look that screams Nic to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on January 15, 2013, 09:05:37 PM
Hey, double post.  Go me!

How about James Purefoy for Nic?  He can do wicked.

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120509032936/revengeabc/images/5/5e/James_purefoy.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on January 15, 2013, 09:07:35 PM
Gary Oldman for Nic - he'd be great.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 15, 2013, 09:22:02 PM
Gary Oldman for Nic - he'd be great.

Most of the villains I've seen him do are too chaotic, and Benedict Cumberbatch is too young and the wrong sort of inhuman-looking (he'd make a workable Faerie, to my mind, rather than an angel.)

I still vote for either Anthony Stewart Head, or wait another ten or fifteen years for capturing images of actors from older movies to be a mature tech and then cast Michael Caine when he was about forty.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on January 15, 2013, 09:55:14 PM
Has anyone considered Izabella Miko as Murphy?  She is 5'4", which could be workable.

(http://www.celebrities-galore.com/celebrities-photos/izabella-miko.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on January 17, 2013, 10:08:02 PM
Has anyone considered Izabella Miko as Murphy?  She is 5'4", which could be workable.

(http://www.celebrities-galore.com/celebrities-photos/izabella-miko.jpg)

I know Murph is supposed to look cute, but she's too baby-faced, IMO. She looks like a teen, and no descriptions of Murphy give that impression. Sarah Michelle Gellar would be a good Murphy, especially now she's aged a little.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 18, 2013, 12:49:51 AM
I know Murph is supposed to look cute, but she's too baby-faced, IMO. She looks like a teen, and no descriptions of Murphy give that impression. Sarah Michelle Gellar would be a good Murphy, especially now she's aged a little.

*hiss* Yuck.

Personality-wise, I see Murphy being a lot more like Myka Bering in Warehouse 13, but Joanne Kelly does not look good as a blonde.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 18, 2013, 12:51:39 AM
*hiss* Yuck.

Personality-wise, I see Murphy being a lot more like Myka Bering in Warehouse 13, but Joanne Kelly does not look good as a blonde.

The X-Files were a long time ago, but Gillian Anderson would have made a good Murphy too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on January 18, 2013, 04:58:43 AM
Hey, double post.  Go me!

How about James Purefoy for Nic?  He can do wicked.

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120509032936/revengeabc/images/5/5e/James_purefoy.jpg)

Perhaps as Marcone?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 18, 2013, 04:59:22 AM
How about Bennedict Cumberbatch for Steed?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on January 18, 2013, 02:58:18 PM
Sarah Michelle Gellar would be a good Murphy, especially now she's aged a little.

Buffy FTW!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mortax on January 18, 2013, 09:20:26 PM
Here is who I see as I read the books.  In some cases, there are height, hair and age discrepancies, but if Hollywood can fake it so can I. :) (Pardon spelling)

Dresden: Huge Jackman
Murphy: Judith Hoag
Molly: Jessica Biel
Micheal Carpeter: Gerard Butler
Mac: Patrick Stewart (Seriously, he like Mac never seems to age.)
Nichodimus: Liam Neeson
Thomas: James Marsters
Bob: It's a double up but either Marsters or Patrick Stewart
Marcone: Huge Laurie
Sanya: Christopher Judge
Shiro: Mako
Laura Wraith : Kate Beckinsale
Lea: Scarlet Johansan
Mab: Angelina Jolie
Elain: Terry Ferrel
Uriel: Morgan Freeman
Eb: Kris Kistoferson
Butters: Seth Green
Susan: Roselyn Sanchez
Odin: Clancy Brown (http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTUxODY3NjAzMF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTQ5MjYwNg@@._V1._SY314_CR1,0,214,314_.jpg)
Carlos: Mark Consuelos
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 19, 2013, 06:57:53 AM
Here is who I see as I read the books.  In some cases, there are height, hair and age discrepancies, but if Hollywood can fake it so can I. :) (Pardon spelling)

Dresden: Huge Jackman
Murphy: Judith Hoag
Molly: Jessica Biel
Micheal Carpeter: Gerard Butler
Mac: Patrick Stewart (Seriously, he like Mac never seems to age.)
Nichodimus: Liam Neeson
Thomas: James Marsters
Bob: It's a double up but either Marsters or Patrick Stewart
Marcone: Huge Laurie
Sanya: Christopher Judge
Shiro: Mako
Laura Wraith : Kate Beckinsale
Lea: Scarlet Johansan
Mab: Angelina Jolie
Elain: Terry Ferrel
Uriel: Morgan Freeman
Eb: Kris Kistoferson
Butters: Seth Green
Susan: Roselyn Sanchez
Odin: Clancy Brown (http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTUxODY3NjAzMF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTQ5MjYwNg@@._V1._SY314_CR1,0,214,314_.jpg)
Carlos: Mark Consuelos

Everybody likes Marsters except me.  He was descent as Spike in the one episode of Angel that I watched, but I'm not what you'd call a fan.

No way do I see Patrick Stewart as Bob.  Bob is too raunchy.
He's also a little to lanky for my image of Mac.

Angelina as Mab?  uhhhh... no.

Uriel is described as a young man, except in his Jake persona.

I also can't see Hugh Laurie as Marcone.  He doesn't come close to having the right personality in anything I've seen him in.

Hugh Jackman is way too old for Harry, not to mention that I can't see him taking the beatings Harry takes on a regular basis.

Molly has the physique of a female Body Builder.

Mako might have made a descent Shiro but, unfortunately, he's dead.

Can't see Christopher Judge doning a Russian accent (Much as I like him)

Scarlet Johansen is too young for Lea.

Kristopherson I might agree with for Eb.

I might like Gerard Butler more if he could do more than one accent.

I don't see Seth Green playing Butters because I can't see him playing someone who gets caught up in other people's pain.

Liam Neeson is an interesting thought for Nic.  I can see him doing the Villain very well, but the image is off somehow.

Whoever plays Lara Raith has to drip with Sex Appeal.  She's the kind of person who expects men to succumb to her charms, and with good reason.  She's only been rebuffed by two men in the last century.  Tall, Graceful, Beautiful and Deadly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mortax on January 19, 2013, 08:28:50 AM
No way do I see Patrick Stewart as Bob.  Bob is too raunchy.
He's also a little to lanky for my image of Mac.


Um, ever watched American Dad?  He's done things WAY raunchier than Bob.  And he's not what I would call lanky.  The man is actually pretty fit, especially for his age.

Like I said, this is what's in my head.  Their current ages might not be what I see them as, as stated. :)

And you can't see Huge Laurie as a quite stoic sociopath?......I guess I see that as House without the sarcasm.  And shaving.  After seeing him in Black Adder and then seeing house, I'm convinced he has the range.

And as to Molly, see Blade 3.  Physical builds aren't that hard to change. :)

And as said, YMMV
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 19, 2013, 05:36:42 PM
Um, ever watched American Dad?  He's done things WAY raunchier than Bob.  And he's not what I would call lanky.  The man is actually pretty fit, especially for his age.

Like I said, this is what's in my head.  Their current ages might not be what I see them as, as stated. :)

And you can't see Huge Laurie as a quite stoic sociopath?......I guess I see that as House without the sarcasm.  And shaving.  After seeing him in Black Adder and then seeing house, I'm convinced he has the range.

And as to Molly, see Blade 3.  Physical builds aren't that hard to change. :)

And as said, YMMV

I don't watch American Dad or Family Guy.

I've also never seen Blackadder.  I know Hugh Laurie from House and 101 Dalmations.  I'm not saying I can't see him as a sociopath, but John Marcone isn't a sociopath, he's a megalomaniac -- Not like Hitler, mind.  He doesn't want to rule the world, just his little piece of it, and he doesn't tolerate interference.  He's convinced that he can do a better job of it than the established authorities.  He's pragmatic, practical and absolutely ruthless toward his enemies, but he does have rules.

I guess my mileage varies a lot.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mortax on January 19, 2013, 05:50:46 PM
John Marcone isn't a sociopath, he's a megalomaniac -- Not like Hitler, mind.  He doesn't want to rule the world, just his little piece of it, and he doesn't tolerate interference.  He's convinced that he can do a better job of it than the established authorities.  He's pragmatic, practical and absolutely ruthless toward his enemies, but he does have rules.

Um, that kinda fits sociopath too.. :)  http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html  He's a predator with no limits.  He has an order to his world, and he defends it and his territory ruthlessly.  He appears charming to most, except those who realize the smiles don't touch his eyes.  He sees others as tools.  People often use the term sociopath and psychopath interchangeably, but they are not.  One is impulsive, and often violent.  The other is cold, calculating, and the majority of cases are not violent people. 

Megalomania, on the other hand:
"Megalomania is a psychopathological disorder characterized by delusional fantasies of power, relevance, or omnipotence. 'Megalomania is characterized by an inflated sense of self-esteem and overestimation by persons of their powers and beliefs'.[1] Historically it was used as an old name for narcissistic personality disorder prior to the latter's first use by Heinz Kohut in 1968, and is used these days as a non-clinical equivalent."

Marcon strikes me as many things.  Narcissistic isn't one of them.  He's too practical.  Also, he doesn't strike me as having fantasies of power, or omnipotence.  If he believed that, I doubt he would hire Odin's people.

And as to Sir Stewert: WARNING, Inappropriate for young ones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmwieqeNG_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=s_BX8UjVUvA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S7r-K6lO6k

He's a bit silly and over the top in the series, but given some of the things I've seen him in, he has the range.  Crazy man did "A Christmas Carol"  By himself.  All the parts.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 19, 2013, 05:56:28 PM
Um, that kinda fits sociopath too.. :)  http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html  He's a predator with no limits.  He has an order to his world, and he defends it and his territory ruthlessly.  He appears charming to most, except those who realize the smiles don't touch his eyes.  He sees others as tools.  People often use the term sociopath and psychopath interchangeably, but they are not.  One is impulsive, and often violent.  The other is cold, calculating, and the majority of cases are not violent people. 

Megalomania, on the other hand:
"Megalomania is a psychopathological disorder characterized by delusional fantasies of power, relevance, or omnipotence. 'Megalomania is characterized by an inflated sense of self-esteem and overestimation by persons of their powers and beliefs'.[1] Historically it was used as an old name for narcissistic personality disorder prior to the latter's first use by Heinz Kohut in 1968, and is used these days as a non-clinical equivalent."

Marcon strikes me as many things.  Narcissistic isn't one of them.  He's too practical.  Also, he doesn't strike me as having fantasies of power, or omnipotence.  If he believed that, I doubt he would hire Odin's people.

I'll accept the correction in terminology, but I'm still not sure that Marcone is a sociopath.

I guess, for the right actor, I would accept a range of types as long as they looked like they might have once been military.  Because I'm almost certain that Marcone was, and he was probably Black Ops.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mortax on January 19, 2013, 06:08:01 PM
I guess, for the right actor, I would accept a range of types as long as they looked like they might have once been military.  Because I'm almost certain that Marcone was, and he was probably Black Ops.

I'll agree to that.  Though we might disagree on the range of what that could cover. :)  I've known 4 people who were SEALs.  None of them looked like you would think. lol  John was 6'6 and gangly, Rodger was built like a fireplug.  The rest were somewhere in between.  That's probably why I can see Huge as frmr spec ops where most would look at me funny.  I've seen people who look less like special forces than him actually be in special forces.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 19, 2013, 08:07:02 PM
I'll agree to that.  Though we might disagree on the range of what that could cover. :)  I've known 4 people who were SEALs.  None of them looked like you would think. lol  John was 6'6 and gangly, Rodger was built like a fireplug.  The rest were somewhere in between.  That's probably why I can see Huge as frmr spec ops where most would look at me funny.  I've seen people who look less like special forces than him actually be in special forces.

The thing about Marcone, though, is that he's still got it.  He can rappel from a flying helicopter onto a moving train, and lead men into battle.  He can sever a rope with a thrown knife while hanging upside down and swinging.  I don't see Hugh Laurie doing that.

Though, for all of that, he could have been a Merc too...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mortax on January 19, 2013, 08:31:46 PM
Though, for all of that, he could have been a Merc too...

Honestly, him being both wouldn't surprise me. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on January 19, 2013, 08:55:55 PM
Molly has the physique of a female Body Builder.

I don't remember her being described like that. I've always pictured her with more of an athletic build, but mot overdone to the point where she lost all the interesting curves.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mortax on January 19, 2013, 09:02:16 PM
Likewise. Hen's the mental picture of Jessica Beil.  Mostly as she appeared in Blade 3.

And on the issue of "I can't see that actor doing that, I thought the same thing about Gerard butler.

How I first saw him:
(http://content.hollywire.com/sites/default/files/resize/2009/11/18/gerard_butler-367x337.jpg)
Which tuned into:
(http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/7gh-Gs2o_MI/movieposter.jpg?v=4dc57725)

Edit:  Sorry, trying to find a way to downsize those, didn't realise they were that big when I linked them in.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 19, 2013, 09:16:07 PM
Likewise. Hen's the mental picture of Jessica Beil.  Mostly as she appeared in Blade 3.

And on the issue of "I can't see that actor doing that, I thought the same thing about Gerard butler.

Honestly, I see Stewart Townsend as Thomas.

Probably because of
(http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsT/41097-26131.gif)
and
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pqbGwmQszKc/T_OtwahVgfI/AAAAAAAACV8/JwkLXypnNqE/s1600/030.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on January 20, 2013, 04:47:52 PM
Likewise. Hen's the mental picture of Jessica Beil.  Mostly as she appeared in Blade 3.

Yeah, Blade 3 Beil with a little more boob is pretty much my mental Molly body type.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 20, 2013, 08:52:16 PM
Yeah, Blade 3 Beil with a little more boob is pretty much my mental Molly body type.

This is how I see Molly, except more muscular.  As I've noted before, this picture is about fourteen years old, but I think this look would do for teenage Molly.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo4qx1RM011qabmnao1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on January 23, 2013, 06:57:14 AM
This is how I see Molly, except more muscular.  As I've noted before, this picture is about fourteen years old, but I think this look would do for teenage Molly.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo4qx1RM011qabmnao1_400.jpg)

   I agree that Fairuza Balk, in her prime, would have made an.... Interesting Molly.  Now, though i am not sure which one, I would love to see her play one of Harry's Villianesses. I think it would give a cool and creepy vibe to whatever role... The kind of girl you Hate to Love.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 23, 2013, 07:14:54 AM
   I agree that Fairuza Balk, in her prime, would have made an.... Interesting Molly.  Now, though i am not sure which one, I would love to see her play one of Harry's Villianesses. I think it would give a cool and creepy vibe to whatever role... The kind of girl you Hate to Love.

But if they could find someone that could pull off a similar look to that, it would be great for Molly.  Especially teenage Molly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on January 23, 2013, 11:22:56 PM
But if they could find someone that could pull off a similar look to that, it would be great for Molly.  Especially teenage Molly.

I haven't read a description of Molly Carpenter in ages, but isn't she a blonde or strawberry blonde?  I've always pictured her kind of like a teenage Julianne Nicholson.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 23, 2013, 11:33:47 PM
I haven't read a description of Molly Carpenter in ages, but isn't she a blonde or strawberry blonde?  I've always pictured her kind of like a teenage Julianne Nicholson.

Who can tell with all the hair dye?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mortax on January 24, 2013, 02:41:16 PM
Yeah, she typically has cotton candy colored hair. :)

Most of the recent ones its been blond with a stripe of color.

.....the last stripe I remember was blue.  If that's correct, I wonder if that is foreshadowing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 24, 2013, 06:34:21 PM
Who can tell with all the hair dye?

Here are a few references.  I think there are more.  Almost every time he describes her wild hair color, he describes her natural hair color.

DB reference - pg. 153 (still living at home, hasn't gone full rebel yet)
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PG reference - pg. 49
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CD reference - pg. 118
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 24, 2013, 08:31:51 PM
Here are a few references.  I think there are more.  Almost every time he describes her wild hair color, he describes her natural hair color.

DB reference - pg. 153 (still living at home, hasn't gone full rebel yet)
(click to show/hide)

PG reference - pg. 49
(click to show/hide)

CD reference - pg. 118
(click to show/hide)

I say again.  A minor detail under all the other colors.  But if it's that important, there are bleach kits.

Besides:  I was talking about the general look, not just the hair, and I'm sure the dye job was different before she became Harry's apprentice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on January 24, 2013, 08:50:32 PM
I say again.  A minor detail under all the other colors.  But if it's that important, there are bleach kits.

Besides:  I was talking about the general look, not just the hair, and I'm sure the dye job was different before she became Harry's apprentice.

OK, like this, with the hair color being dyed/bleached to a strawberry blonde.  ;D  Besides, redheads are often rebellious, with tatoos and piercings and wild hair, and Julienne sure seems to be a natural redhead.  So, she fits.

(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4601366853518197&pid=1.7)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on January 25, 2013, 02:45:40 AM
(https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/1534443412/llama-fedora-twitta.jpg)

Harry Llama Dresden
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zohak on January 25, 2013, 06:41:32 AM
Abigail Klein for lily or older Molly
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4183307/

http://ultimatecheerleaders.com/2012/05/10-things-about-abigail-klein/

Laura Vandervoort for Maeve or lily
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0888882/

Lucas Bryant for harry maybe
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1674903/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 25, 2013, 06:53:50 AM
Abigail Klein for lily or older Molly
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4183307/

http://ultimatecheerleaders.com/2012/05/10-things-about-abigail-klein/

Laura Vandervoort for Maeve or lily
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0888882/

Lucas Bryant for harry maybe
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1674903/

I like Abigail Klein.  Don't know if she can act, since I've never seen her in anything.

I like Laura Vandervoort.  If she plays one of the Fae, Helena Mattsson could play her sister.
(http://celebstar.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laura-Vandervoort-red-carpet-dress-This-Means-War-premiere-2.jpg)   (http://img23.fansshare.com/photos/helenamattsson/helena-mattsson-red-dress-lg-1073065471.jpg)

I've mentioned Lucas Bryant before, because he's decently tall, lanky, and has the right complexion.  But his eyes seem really soft and watery, and I can't seem him doing a good angry/pissed.  He hasn't really done that well on Haven.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on January 25, 2013, 06:57:19 AM
Also, he is too pretty.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 25, 2013, 08:20:37 AM
Also, he is too pretty.

A lot can be done to mess someone up with makeup.  But I still like Ben Browder for it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 25, 2013, 03:37:54 PM
A lot can be done to mess someone up with makeup.  But I still like Ben Browder for it.
Just saw him as a villain on Arrow this week.  Hate to say it, but Ben Browder has gone the way of Nathan Fillion and thickened up right out of the stork harry lankiness. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on January 25, 2013, 04:14:27 PM
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mda1kjYDar1rs0wu7.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 25, 2013, 06:23:24 PM
Just saw him as a villain on Arrow this week.  Hate to say it, but Ben Browder has gone the way of Nathan Fillion and thickened up right out of the stork harry lankiness.

Actors have also been known to gain and lose weight -- lots of weight -- for certain roles.  Though I don't know if Browder is into that.  That said, he's just my favorite of the moment.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on January 25, 2013, 06:33:54 PM
Let me say, Browder is in my top five TV actors of all time... Anyone who has seen farscape will probably agree that it would not be a far stretch to have him play dresden... heck he even resembles the comic book Harry incredibly... BUT ( You knew there had to be one) The timing isn't right for him.  He is getting a bit seasoned to play a character who is in his late twenties ( assuming we start with Storm Front as the plot) I have seen him in more recent work, and he is getting back in fighting shape... but I am afraid his age will work against him. 

I still hold to my opinion that we would have to cast an unknown for Harry, and spend the money on the supporting roles, getting some bigger names to surround him to draw people in.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: dragonmastachief on January 27, 2013, 08:30:39 PM
I really dont think Paul Blackthorne could fit the role, it just doesnt click in my head. they dont have to be 6'9", but at least 6'1" or 6'2" i would think. ive thrown some out there, i still think that Josh Hartnett, or Jared Padaleki , or Sam Worthington would be a good Harry. And yea, thats exactly what i thought of him as in my head. norse. definitely norse.

Whoever plays Harry in a movie has to be over 6 ft tall because his height is often referenced throughout the series as well as  Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on January 27, 2013, 09:25:58 PM
Paul Blackthorne is 6' 3œ" (1.92 m) and I think he did it very well in the show.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 27, 2013, 10:04:40 PM
I really dont think Paul Blackthorne could fit the role, it just doesnt click in my head. they dont have to be 6'9", but at least 6'1" or 6'2" i would think. ive thrown some out there, i still think that Josh Hartnett, or Jared Padaleki , or Sam Worthington would be a good Harry. And yea, thats exactly what i thought of him as in my head. norse. definitely norse.

Whoever plays Harry in a movie has to be over 6 ft tall because his height is often referenced throughout the series as well as  Thomas.

I've said before, and I say again, Height does not matter.  camera tricks can make a shorter person look taller.  Viggo Mortensen is only a few cm taller than Elijah Wood, but they made Frodo look small compared to Aragorn.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on January 27, 2013, 10:15:36 PM
I've said before, and I say again, Height does not matter.  camera tricks can make a shorter person look taller.  Viggo Mortensen is only a few cm taller than Elijah Wood, but they made Frodo look small compared to Aragorn.

True, But there are better things we can be spending our "Special Effects" budget on... We can spend a few hours making Harry taller, or we can make better flaming monkey poo... your choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 27, 2013, 10:24:23 PM
True, But there are better things we can be spending our "Special Effects" budget on... We can spend a few hours making Harry taller, or we can make better flaming monkey poo... your choice.

OR... We can skip the live action altogether, and go with well voiced, gritty animation... Like they do in Japan.  Sacrilege, I know, but...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 27, 2013, 10:42:20 PM
I really dont think Paul Blackthorne could fit the role, it just doesnt click in my head. they dont have to be 6'9", but at least 6'1" or 6'2" i would think. ive thrown some out there, i still think that Josh Hartnett, or Jared Padaleki , or Sam Worthington would be a good Harry. And yea, thats exactly what i thought of him as in my head. norse. definitely norse.

Whoever plays Harry in a movie has to be over 6 ft tall because his height is often referenced throughout the series as well as  Thomas.
Well, yes and no.  His height is a big deal, but in practical terms they are going to have to compromise on some of that aspect anyway, if for no other reason than it is very difficult two leads with the kind of height difference that a true-to-book harry and Murphy would have.  It just becomes an extreme hassle to frame a shot with one actor looking at the other's navel.  And while we the fans may want every element to be true and loyal to the books, it's just not going to happen.  And it will not break the story.  Look at X-Men:  it was a major plot point int he comics for Wolverine to be a short little snot (5'-3" to be exact).  It contributed to his aggressive napoleon complex as well as his antagonism with both Sabertooth (6'-6") and Cyclops (6'-3").  But in the movies they cast the 6'-2" Hugh Jackman and it did nothing to detract from the story (Personally I think he was born to play the role even if about half of the films sucked)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 27, 2013, 11:27:29 PM
I just don't want a Toby Maguire to play him. We need someone who can actually pull off a smart mouth.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on January 28, 2013, 12:46:07 AM
Paul Blackthorne is 6' 3œ" (1.92 m) and I think he did it very well in the show.

Agreed! ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on January 28, 2013, 11:51:42 AM
Paul Blackstone was one of the show's good points... He did have Harry's attitude.  but bringing him back would be problematic.  If he were continuing the series where it left off... then I say ok. But if we are re-inventing Harry Dresden for a TV or Movie audience then we have to move past the old show.  I have absolutely no problems recycling the actors from the old show into a new one in different roles ( except BOB, he can keep his job) but the show has been off the air a while and the actors have matured a bit... If we are starting fresh, the actor who plays Harry needs to be between the ages of 26-34, between 6-2 and 6-6, and be able to pull off the attitude without going over the top.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on January 28, 2013, 04:56:46 PM
Harry, Susan, Martin, Butter, Molly, and the Merlin
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meis0jhRd01rlxmbfo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on January 28, 2013, 05:46:55 PM
Paul Blackstone was one of the show's good points... He did have Harry's attitude.  but bringing him back would be problematic.  If he were continuing the series where it left off... then I say ok. But if we are re-inventing Harry Dresden for a TV or Movie audience then we have to move past the old show.  I have absolutely no problems recycling the actors from the old show into a new one in different roles ( except BOB, he can keep his job) but the show has been off the air a while and the actors have matured a bit... If we are starting fresh, the actor who plays Harry needs to be between the ages of 26-34, between 6-2 and 6-6, and be able to pull off the attitude without going over the top.

I am not sure we are doing that. I think the rules of this thread are quite relaxed. I cast for the current book.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 28, 2013, 07:24:43 PM
To each their own.  I still have actors cast that have unfortunately passed away recently.  Im more casting to find a perfect real-life representation of the picture I have in my head, rather than in preparation for any future project that may actually be launched. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on January 28, 2013, 07:59:31 PM
Yes, I've also imagined old actors, like Rita Hayworth or Cyd Charisse.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on January 29, 2013, 06:44:19 PM
Just like in my head Morgan will alwyas look like Sean Connery looked in Medicine Man.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on January 29, 2013, 08:04:39 PM
Exactly!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Theonlyspiral on January 29, 2013, 08:28:54 PM
In terms of a minor Character... Steed the English warden will forever be a young Timothy Dalton in my head.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on January 29, 2013, 08:43:09 PM
In terms of a minor Character... Steed the English warden will forever be a young Timothy Dalton in my head.

I always pictured Paul Bettany

(http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2012/01/10/previews/Paul%20Bettany-20120110-28.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Theonlyspiral on January 29, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
I picture Morgan as Daniel Craig...Having just gone through this whole thread I am suprised we don't see more fan Trailers on Youtube.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 29, 2013, 11:13:49 PM
I picture Morgan as Daniel Craig...Having just gone through this whole thread I am suprised we don't see more fan Trailers on Youtube.

No-one really agrees on anyone.  The closest is "Matt Bomer as Thomas", but not even everyone agrees on that.  And to make a fan trailer, it would take a lot of work to hunt down actors and actresses in clips that could be 'Dresden' related. 

<forlorn sigh>
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Theonlyspiral on January 29, 2013, 11:21:12 PM
No-one really agrees on anyone.  The closest is "Matt Bomer as Thomas", but not even everyone agrees on that.  And to make a fan trailer, it would take a lot of work to hunt down actors and actresses in clips that could be 'Dresden' related. 

<forlorn sigh>
I was thinking of taking Clips and Pieces from various actors and doing a kind of Super Cut.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 29, 2013, 11:50:49 PM
I was thinking of taking Clips and Pieces from various actors and doing a kind of Super Cut.

I thought about doing that a while ago.  I'm not that good with video, but I made a decent AMV ages ago, which made me want to try it for Dresden.  Of course, then it became really hard to find accurate footage, and actors that people could instantly recognize as characters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 30, 2013, 12:15:11 AM
I was thinking of taking Clips and Pieces from various actors and doing a kind of Super Cut.
Someone did an awesome one like a month or two ago. I wish I remember how to get to it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Theonlyspiral on January 30, 2013, 12:19:56 AM
Someone did an awesome one like a month or two ago. I wish I remember how to get to it.
I saw two online today...a Music Video and a casting trailer.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 30, 2013, 12:33:07 AM
I saw two online today...a Music Video and a casting trailer.
  Did you see this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldvy8bUV7HA
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Theonlyspiral on January 30, 2013, 12:36:02 AM
  Did you see this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldvy8bUV7HA
Yes that one got me thinking about it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 30, 2013, 12:40:04 AM
Yeah. Hey if you do, you should definitely post it here.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Theonlyspiral on January 30, 2013, 12:41:40 AM
Yeah. Hey if you do, you should definitely post it here.
How much work could it be?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 30, 2013, 12:46:35 AM
How much work could it be?
*snickers* Oh I'm sure it won't be tooo much.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Theonlyspiral on January 30, 2013, 12:50:19 AM
*snickers* Oh I'm sure it won't be tooo much.
Already working on one for Storm Front.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 30, 2013, 12:54:13 AM
Already working on one for Storm Front.
Oh, you are doing it book by book basis rather than just a theme mashup? Sounds like a good time.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Theonlyspiral on January 30, 2013, 12:55:33 AM
Oh, you are doing it book by book basis rather than just a theme mashup? Sounds like a good time.
In my dream world each book is a 90 Minute HBO special.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 30, 2013, 12:58:05 AM
In my dream world each book is a 90 Minute HBO special.
That would be good.   I always thought that if they were gonna do movies they would have to combine a lot of them.

1 and 3 but make shadowman and kravos the same person.
A little bit of 2 as an intro and then make the movie about 4
And so on.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Theonlyspiral on January 30, 2013, 01:01:30 AM
That would be good.   I always thought that if they were gonna do movies they would have to combine a lot of them.

1 and 3 but make shadowman and kravos the same person.
A little bit of 2 as an intro and then make the movie about 4
And so on.
25 Specials seems about right...also in my dream universe all the actors will just agree...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on January 30, 2013, 01:09:11 AM
(http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/300W/f/2010/132/d/e/WizardLlama_la_llama_hechizera_by_JagerVanDraak.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 30, 2013, 01:12:21 AM
Is that a scion?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 30, 2013, 02:00:53 AM
Already working on one for Storm Front.
What I wanted to see before CD was released was a 30second trailer.
 - Video or pictures, black and white, with maybe blue tint.
 - Video/pictures would slowly scroll left-to-right, or vice-versa, showing places, before fading to black, before another faded in.
 - Places would all be covered in snow and such.
 - Places would include a burned out building, a nice house like the Carpenter's or Murphy's, an empty grave, etc.
 - It would end with a snow-blown shot of Arctis Tor from a distance, with snow blurring the shot until it faded to white, with TDF logo, or maybe CD.
 - It would be 30 seconds long, and the audio would simply be the first 30 seconds of P. Diddy's "Coming Home".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Long_Pig_Tailor on January 30, 2013, 03:09:26 AM
Has anyone else brought up Christopher Gorham for Harry? Also, Kristen Bell as Murphy. When I cast, I always start them at the lower-end of ages, to provide for multiple seasons or sequels.

Also, to my mind Matt Bomer is Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on January 30, 2013, 03:14:02 AM
I think Bomer would make a fantastic thomas.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on January 30, 2013, 04:01:57 AM
I think Bomer would make a fantastic thomas.
I don't picture Bomer as Thomas, but the Thomas in my head sounds a lot like Bomer.  The Harry/Thomas banter in my head is a lot like the Peter/Neal banter from White Collar.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on January 30, 2013, 04:51:14 AM
I don't picture Bomer as Thomas, but the Thomas in my head sounds a lot like Bomer.  The Harry/Thomas banter in my head is a lot like the Peter/Neal banter from White Collar.

Peter is my mental Malcolm. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Theonlyspiral on January 30, 2013, 04:57:05 AM
Peter is my mental Malcolm. :D
I was wandering youtube and came across you doing that monologue and now I'm going to have trouble finding another Molly. It'd be really convenient if you could become famous and do a bunch of TV so I have some clips to cut from.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 30, 2013, 08:08:21 AM
Peter is my mental Malcolm. :D

I think Mandy Patinkin would make a good Malcolm.  I hardly recognized him when I watched Dead Like Me, but he's still a great actor, and so underused.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 30, 2013, 12:51:50 PM
I think Mandy Patinkin would make a good Malcolm.  I hardly recognized him when I watched Dead Like Me, but he's still a great actor, and so underused.
I could get behind that.  For that matter, after seeing this picture I might even be able to see him as McCoy
(http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=suh1580uuOyzzM&tbnid=2yFNCU4ji8RSzM:&ved=0CAgQjRwwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMandy_Patinkin&ei=5xUJUYK-LKa50AHMuIHoDw&psig=AFQjCNHs7LuK_TM4HZ_ifo6UpRTXSbiyDQ&ust=1359636327782741)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on January 30, 2013, 02:54:17 PM
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcnv0tclYO1qzjh9q.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 30, 2013, 03:15:35 PM
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcnv0tclYO1qzjh9q.jpg)
Why Batman, what big ears you have...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on January 31, 2013, 07:18:00 AM
I could get behind that.  For that matter, after seeing this picture I might even be able to see him as McCoy

Had to do some serious work to figure out what picture you were talking about.  I don't think I see him as McCoy, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on January 31, 2013, 02:15:23 PM
Had to do some serious work to figure out what picture you were talking about.  I don't think I see him as McCoy, though.
granted he's still not my first choice (for mccoy i picture a bald, slightly overweight Robert Duval, personally).   But if you take this picture (hope the link works better this time) just with the top of his head shaved, I think he could do it.  He certainly has the force of personality Id want from Ebenezer. 

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g318/wingsunseen/398px-MandyPatinkin.jpg)

And Like you said, He is an underrated actor and Id love to see him get more work. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on January 31, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
I picture Nick Searcy (currently on Justified) as McCoy.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0780678/?ref_=tt_cl_t2

If he wasn't dead, I'd have picked Don S. Davis from Statgate SG-1
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0204493/?ref_=tt_cl_t5
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Long_Pig_Tailor on February 01, 2013, 12:57:50 AM
I picture Nick Searcy (currently on Justified) as McCoy.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0780678/?ref_=tt_cl_t2

If he wasn't dead, I'd have picked Don S. Davis from Statgate SG-1
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0204493/?ref_=tt_cl_t5

Dude, Nick Searcy is an excellent choice. He's not quite as old as I picture Eb, but it's still well within the reach of makeup and performance to get it right. Although, now you've brought it up, I just want a scene in the books with Eb talking about a Warden stiffy.

And if I had to pick someone with more star power than Gorham (but to his credit, he'd probably be fairly cheap), I would most definitely go Olyphant. If we're going to skew older, dude has already shown he can pull off self-destructive wiseassery pretty much perfectly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 01, 2013, 02:00:40 AM
If I try reeeeeally hard to be objective, I could probably see Searcy, but it would be one of those things you have to get used to (Like Amanda Tapping with a British accent).  My problem with him is just that I havent seen him in anything since he was the a**hole in Seven Days. 

Speaking of, I think Jonathan LaPaglia could make a pretty decent Nic.  Give him a few years or some age make-up and he'd make a great Marcone too...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 01, 2013, 02:04:40 AM
Just because I like to bring it up every once in a while for new people.

Nicodemos.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_OvryYdVtfSo/SFd2BVE02EI/AAAAAAAABh4/mwGkgLIEZrg/s400/Burn_Notice_Michael_Explosion.png)(http://m.static.newsvine.com/servista/imagesizer?file=http3A2F2Fwww.newsvine.com2F_vine2Fimages2Fusers2Fmichaelsautter2F3827571.jpg&width=380)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Gilitine_Memitim on February 01, 2013, 02:11:54 AM
I've never considered it before, but yes. I could see it actually.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 01, 2013, 02:13:29 AM
I've never considered it before, but yes. I could see it actually.
Jeffery Donovan is awesome. And especially the episode that those come from/  Make me see him as Nic in my head.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 01, 2013, 02:40:00 AM
I can see that, sure.  I think I picture nick as a little more gauntly chiseled in my head, but as far as acting chops go he fits that character quite well
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 01, 2013, 02:41:43 AM
I can see that, sure.  I think I picture nick as a little more gauntly chiseled in my head, but as far as acting chops go he fits that character quite well
  He does so much good acting within the show. He plays a character who acts. Which I find quite phenomenal when people do that./
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Long_Pig_Tailor on February 01, 2013, 03:18:43 AM
Just because I like to bring it up every once in a while for new people.

Nicodemos.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_OvryYdVtfSo/SFd2BVE02EI/AAAAAAAABh4/mwGkgLIEZrg/s400/Burn_Notice_Michael_Explosion.png)(http://m.static.newsvine.com/servista/imagesizer?file=http3A2F2Fwww.newsvine.com2F_vine2Fimages2Fusers2Fmichaelsautter2F3827571.jpg&width=380)

YES. No arguments here, that's first choice casting right there.

Is there anything we can give Bruce Campbell? Just because I feel he should be in all the things.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Gilitine_Memitim on February 01, 2013, 03:24:07 AM
I especially love the fact that the picture on the right comes from an episode where whenever he snapped something exploded or fell apart, or else something equally impressive/scary.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 01, 2013, 03:28:03 AM
YES. No arguments here, that's first choice casting right there.

Is there anything we can give Bruce Campbell? Just because I feel he should be in all the things.
  Carmichal?


I especially love the fact that the picture on the right comes from an episode where whenever he snapped something exploded or fell apart, or else something equally impressive/scary.
That was one of my favorite episodes. So hilarious. And then the guy at the end who tries to snap. *stiches* el diablo is the thing that clinched it for me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 01, 2013, 03:30:14 AM
  Carmichal?


It's a good idea!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 01, 2013, 03:58:51 AM
YES. No arguments here, that's first choice casting right there.

Is there anything we can give Bruce Campbell? Just because I feel he should be in all the things.

Assuming the obvious choice wasn't cast for the role, how about Bruce Campbell for Larry Fowler?  Just knowing he was annoying Harry for all those years...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on February 01, 2013, 05:44:14 AM
Assuming the obvious choice wasn't cast for the role, how about Bruce Campbell for Larry Fowler?  Just knowing he was annoying Harry for all those years...

I like Bruce too much to do that to him.  I was actually picturing him as Mac, but I could also (On top of my other choices for the character) hear him as the voice ob Bob.

The only problem I have with Jeffrey Donovan as Nic is that I can't see him with the arrogant side.  Diabolical, yes; arrogantly diabolical, no.  It's one of the reasons that I like Gary Oldman for the role.

For Ebeneezer, I'd pick Ben Johnson if he weren't dead.  Unfortunately, I can't think of a single actor who's still alive that could fit my image of Eb, other than Kris Kristofferson, and he's a bit tall.

For Morty, I'd deffinitely go with Willie Garson from White Collar.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on February 01, 2013, 09:56:02 AM
I like Bruce too much to do that to him.  I was actually picturing him as Mac, but I could also (On top of my other choices for the character) hear him as the voice ob Bob.

The only problem I have with Jeffrey Donovan as Nic is that I can't see him with the arrogant side.  Diabolical, yes; arrogantly diabolical, no.  It's one of the reasons that I like Gary Oldman for the role.

For Ebeneezer, I'd pick Ben Johnson if he weren't dead.  Unfortunately, I can't think of a single actor who's still alive that could fit my image of Eb, other than Kris Kristofferson, and he's a bit tall.

For Morty, I'd deffinitely go with Willie Garson from White Collar.

I still Hold to my Previous statement, I still want Bruce Cambell as either Carmicheal, or Stallings.  He has to have a re-accuring role... I wouldn't have it any other way, but Mac doesn't talk enough to have Cambell play him... I can get Behind Kristofferson... Oldman well it is a given that He is going to be there somewhere... I can thinks of at least three villians and two good guys he can easily play.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: MagusLucius on February 01, 2013, 06:29:03 PM
I still Hold to my Previous statement, I still want Bruce Cambell as either Carmicheal, or Stallings.  He has to have a re-accuring role... I wouldn't have it any other way, but Mac doesn't talk enough to have Cambell play him... I can get Behind Kristofferson... Oldman well it is a given that He is going to be there somewhere... I can thinks of at least three villians and two good guys he can easily play.

The only reason I didn't see Bruce as Carmichael was that Carmichael is described as short, overweight and balding.

I think the problem we're going to run into here is the descriptions.  Jim is very specific and fans notice when actors don't match the description given, which is why, in the long run, I think it would be best for the show to be animated, and the characters voiced.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on February 01, 2013, 08:38:59 PM
(http://moraless.com/img/2012/12/569.jpg)

Molly?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 01, 2013, 10:57:12 PM
(http://moraless.com/img/2012/12/569.jpg)

Molly?

My latest "If she could act, she could be Molly" girl.

Kate Bock
Age:  22
Height:  5'11"
Hair:  Blonde
Eyes:  Blue
(http://i2.listal.com/image/3685406/600full-kate-bock.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 01, 2013, 11:00:19 PM
I don't know her, but she reminds me of Farraw Fawcett. No problem. Almost any tall blonde can be Molly in my book.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 01, 2013, 11:14:47 PM
I don't know her, but she reminds me of Farraw Fawcett. No problem. Almost any tall blonde can be Molly in my book.
My casting for Molly typically revolves around what tall, pretty blonde I've seen most recently.  But at 5'11", Kate Bock has an impressive height that would work well for a tall Harry.  The problem, of course, would be that if you cast a shorter Harry, then you lose the point of casting the accurately tall Molly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mortax on February 02, 2013, 05:56:14 AM
Hight is an easy thing to fudge on screen anyway.  Take LotR.  The guy playing Gimly was the tallest member of the cast.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on February 02, 2013, 05:34:47 PM
The only reason I didn't see Bruce as Carmichael was that Carmichael is described as short, overweight and balding.

I think the problem we're going to run into here is the descriptions.  Jim is very specific and fans notice when actors don't match the description given, which is why, in the long run, I think it would be best for the show to be animated, and the characters voiced.

  Ok, then Stallings... We can give Carmicheal to Paul ben-victor (The invisible man tv series... Fawkes partner)

Animated is a very specific audience, if going for commercial appeal, it has to be live action. Do Not get me wrong, I love animated series that have adult content... and if it shows up like that I will not complain.  I would much prefer a re-imagined series on AMC right after The Walking Dead... but I will take what I can get.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on February 02, 2013, 06:34:22 PM
I'm actually upset that this thread just keeps going and going and going
(http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/the-big-bang-theory-cast-at-comic-con_492x328.jpg)

From Left to Right
Butters
Murphy
Molly
Gate Keeper
Harry's Dad
Harry
Luccio
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 02, 2013, 07:03:33 PM
 Don't be upset. It's awesome!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Long_Pig_Tailor on February 02, 2013, 07:19:21 PM
The only reason I didn't see Bruce as Carmichael was that Carmichael is described as short, overweight and balding.

I think the problem we're going to run into here is the descriptions.  Jim is very specific and fans notice when actors don't match the description given, which is why, in the long run, I think it would be best for the show to be animated, and the characters voiced.

I tend to get really annoyed when fans put too much stock in a character looking exactly as described in a book when adaptations roll around. Certainly it makes sense when appearance is relevant to the character, as I would argue Harry and Murphy's are down to most of the details (leads always tend to have their looks be more relevant to their character, what with being the leads), but, say, Carmichael? I'm looking for kind of a narrow-minded, lazy cop/general turd attitude more than any particular look (though admittedly short, fat and balding are cultural shorthands that work like a charm for that) when casting that part, at least for initial appearances. Bruce Campbell could swing it well enough, though he's generally too charismatic, I think, for us to dislike him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Denarian on February 02, 2013, 08:32:40 PM
Okay, I'm new here so this has probably been said a million times already (like Christopher Lee as the Merlin)...
Liam Neeson as Morgan. Once I thought of it, I couldn't un-see it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 02, 2013, 08:36:06 PM
Bruce Willis as Eb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Denarian on February 02, 2013, 08:55:23 PM
Bruce Willis as Eb.
Perfect personality, although he doesn't quite have Eb's redneck cred. Since I can't think of anyone better, I'll shut up.

Although the thought of Patrick Stewart as Nicodemus gives me chills...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 02, 2013, 08:56:24 PM
Perfect personality, although he doesn't quite have Eb's redneck cred. Since I can't think of anyone better, I'll shut up.

Although the thought of Patrick Stewart as Nicodemus gives me chills...
  I would like to see his hand at it. He plays an old bad A pretty awesomely.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Denarian on February 03, 2013, 12:26:15 AM
  I would like to see his hand at it. He plays an old bad A pretty awesomely.
Indeed. And his years of verbally sparring with John de Lancie would perfectly qualify him for facing off against the one-man army of snarkness that is Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 03, 2013, 05:20:22 AM
Indeed. And his years of verbally sparring with John de Lancie would perfectly qualify him for facing off against the one-man army of snarkness that is Harry.
I remember having a conversation with an old nerd once about how great the Q/Picard dialogue was because Patrick stewart would go on and on with some high moral lecture, and Q would respond with"ahhh, is the wittle human upset?"   :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on February 03, 2013, 05:30:11 AM
I wonder if you could cast an all Trek version of the Dresden Files. This will take some thought.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Long_Pig_Tailor on February 03, 2013, 11:04:22 PM
I wonder if you could cast an all Trek version of the Dresden Files. This will take some thought.

I'd give young Frakes the role of Harry, though only with the beard. Which makes the dark Head Harry difficult to imagine. Bigger beard?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 04, 2013, 02:58:51 AM
I was all the time thinking in Harry, and I have no idea. I think Alexander Siddig is the closer I was.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Long_Pig_Tailor on February 04, 2013, 04:43:36 AM
I mean, in the Trek casting of the Dresden Files, Butters is unquestionably Dwight Schultz.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 04, 2013, 06:16:52 AM
Patrick Stewart = Arthur Langtry
William Shatner = Ebeneezer McCoy
Leonard Nimoy = The Gatekeeper
George Takei = Ancient Mai
Walter Koenig = Aaron LaFortier
Nichelle Nichols = Martha Liberty
Robert Beltran = Gregori Cristos
Marina Sirtis = Original Anastasia Luccio
Jonathan Frakes = Donald Morgan
Brent Spiner = Grevane
Michael Dorn = Cowl
Scott Bakula = Malcolm Dresden
Jeri Ryan = Mab
Jolene Blalock = Titania
Gates McFaddon = Mother Summer
Kate Mulgrew = Mother Winter
Wil Wheaton = Peabody
Zachary Quinto = Harry Dresden
Benedict Cumberbach = Thomas Raith
Alice Eve = Karrin Murphy
Anton Yelchin = Waldo Butters
Karl Urban = Justin DuMorne (flashbacks)
Zoe Saldana = Young Corpsetaker; Young Luccio
Chris Pine = Jared Kincaid
John Cho = Xin Li (sp?)
Simon Pegg = Warden 'Steed' Chandler
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 04, 2013, 06:34:57 AM
 I like those castings.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on February 04, 2013, 08:20:13 AM
Patrick Stewart = Arthur Langtry
William Shatner = Ebeneezer McCoy
Leonard Nimoy = The Gatekeeper
George Takei = Ancient Mai
Walter Koenig = Aaron LaFortier
Nichelle Nichols = Martha Liberty
Robert Beltran = Gregori Cristos
Marina Sirtis = Original Anastasia Luccio
Jonathan Frakes = Donald Morgan
Brent Spiner = Grevane
Michael Dorn = Cowl
Scott Bakula = Malcolm Dresden
Jeri Ryan = Mab
Jolene Blalock = Titania
Gates McFaddon = Mother Summer
Kate Mulgrew = Mother Winter
Wil Wheaton = Peabody
Zachary Quinto = Harry Dresden
Benedict Cumberbach = Thomas Raith
Alice Eve = Karrin Murphy
Anton Yelchin = Waldo Butters
Karl Urban = Justin DuMorne (flashbacks)
Zoe Saldana = Young Corpsetaker; Young Luccio
Chris Pine = Jared Kincaid
John Cho = Xin Li (sp?)
Simon Pegg = Warden 'Steed' Chandler

Wow. You just won the internet.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 04, 2013, 05:25:05 PM
Obviously i skimmed over George Takai as Ancient Mai the first time because LOL.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on February 04, 2013, 06:47:51 PM
That list is priceless.  I busted out over George Takai as Ancient Mai.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on February 04, 2013, 07:48:40 PM
Yeah, same here. And now whenever I see that character in the book, all I will be able to picture is George Takei in a woman's kimono. Classic.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 04, 2013, 11:39:52 PM
 I now can't accept anyone else as Ancient Mai.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 04, 2013, 11:56:11 PM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2536960256/h99AAFD24/)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 04, 2013, 11:59:54 PM
*facepalm* *snickers*
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cesarnoel on February 05, 2013, 04:06:40 PM
None of the above.

James Marster or Paul Blackthorne will fit much better. Have Elizabeth Hurley play either Mab or Lea
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 05, 2013, 04:22:39 PM
Have Elizabeth Hurley play either Mab or Lea
Nice!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on February 05, 2013, 05:29:59 PM
Well, as long as George Takei is playing Ancient Mai, I'm good.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 05, 2013, 06:17:03 PM
Patrick Stewart = Arthur Langtry
William Shatner = Ebeneezer McCoy
Leonard Nimoy = The Gatekeeper
George Takei = Ancient Mai
Walter Koenig = Aaron LaFortier
Nichelle Nichols = Martha Liberty
Robert Beltran = Gregori Cristos
Marina Sirtis = Original Anastasia Luccio
Jonathan Frakes = Donald Morgan
Brent Spiner = Grevane
Michael Dorn = Cowl
Scott Bakula = Malcolm Dresden
Jeri Ryan = Mab
Jolene Blalock = Titania
Gates McFaddon = Mother Summer
Kate Mulgrew = Mother Winter
Wil Wheaton = Peabody
Zachary Quinto = Harry Dresden
Benedict Cumberbach = Thomas Raith
Alice Eve = Karrin Murphy
Anton Yelchin = Waldo Butters
Karl Urban = Justin DuMorne (flashbacks)
Zoe Saldana = Young Corpsetaker; Young Luccio
Chris Pine = Jared Kincaid
John Cho = Xin Li (sp?)
Simon Pegg = Warden 'Steed' Chandler

I kinda wish Trek, all of it, would just go away.  I started watching TOS with "The Man Trap" back in Sept. 1966 on a 19" Zenith black & white TV, and I'm just sooooooo sick of Trek now.  I have no use whatsoever for JJ Abrams Trek, and to this day, if TOS or TNG came on TV when I was channel surfing, I might watch the episode, but if it were DS9 or VOY, I'd instantly change the channel if it wasn't Scorpion I & II of VOY.  I never could stand Mulgrew/Jameway.  ENT?  I might watch it as long as it wasn't the series finale.  As far as I'm concerned, ENT ended with #97, S4E21 "Terra Prime" on 13/May/05.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on February 05, 2013, 06:37:46 PM
I loved DS9!
Voyager tried to hard (You like Borgs, how about a Million Borg!)

JJ is making Star Trek FUN again.

Enterprise got boned because 1. UPN 2. Voyager Fans 3. They basically wrote themselves into a corner with what they could and could not do (I heard an exciting idea for the season after the last which is basically the Romulan-Earth War which would be epic)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 05, 2013, 07:44:07 PM
I loved DS9!

I hated DS9 even before I knew that Babylon 5 existed (I discovered B5 in Sept. 1996.).  I'd stuck with DS9 for FOUR LONG YEARS out of goodwill built up from watching TOS and TNG from 1966 to 1994, before gradually quitting watching it (DS9).  The freakin' kids seemed to be there only to cause problems.  Keiko O'Brien was a royal pain in the ass for Miles O'Brien.  The Bajorans and Kai Whatsherface were more annoyances.  In Sept. 1996, I saw "Babylon 5"  S3E21 "Shadow Dancing" and was HOOKED immediately.  The writing was better, the effects were better, the characters and alien races were more fleshed out, less one-dimensional, less stereotypical sci-fi; it was head and shoulders above Trek.  Then, much later, I found out that B5 had been shopped to Paramount before Warner Brothers, and Paramount had been given the Babylon 5 series treatment/bible.  Paramount turned 'em down and then rushed DS9 into production, and got their pilot out before the Babylon 5 pilot.  Hmmmmm.  Leeta vs. Lyta.  Worm hole vs. hyperspace.jumpgate system.  Defiant vs. Whitestar.   Tsk, tsk.  Well, regardless of how eerily close the starting point for B5 and DS9, the series diverged as time went on due to the different creative teams making them.

Voyager tried to hard (You like Borgs, how about a Million Borg!)

I switched to Voyager from DS9, and Voyager was even WORSE!  ARGH!  <spit>  Maquis?  Bad hair day, sponge-head, Kazon?  Please!  <spit>  I just like Scorpion I & II because Species 8### ships looked vaguely like Vorlon ships, I liked how a group of their ships combined to make a bigger weapon (mimicking how a single Vorlon ship fires),  AND they kicked Borg ass.  I did like 7 of Double-D, though.  ;)


JJ is making Star Trek FUN again.


Oh for God's sake!  BARF!!!!  (http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr285/croatoan5376/Emoticons/smiley_emoticons_eazy_kotz_graete.gif)

JJ Abrams is ruining it, although there was not much left to ruin.  I bought the Star Trek (2009) DVD when it first came out because it was listed on Netflix as Very Long Wait, and I didn't want to wait.  I hadn't seen it in the theaters.  I watched the DVD and immediately sold it.  Didn't want it in my collection.  It was similar to what I did with War of the Worlds (2005), except that I broke that disc in two, so as not to have other minds subjected to it.  I saved the box, though, the most useful and valuable part of War of the Worlds (2005).   I kept hoping that the aliens would EAT the constantly screaming Rachel Ferrier/Dakota Fanning, just to shut her the hell up, plus, it would probably kill the aliens.  Then, I re-watched War of the Worlds (1953) just to help wash the 2005 version out of my memory.


Enterprise got boned because 1. UPN 2. Voyager Fans 3. They basically wrote themselves into a corner with what they could and could not do (I heard an exciting idea for the season after the last which is basically the Romulan-Earth War which would be epic)

Enterprise/Star Trek: Enterprise got Berman and Braga'd to death.  B&B were the two SOBs who ruined it.  Manny Coto did a helluva good job salvaging the show in Seasons 3 & 4.  I found Seasons 1 & 2 pretty boring/going nowhere and not very good at all.  B&B should be banned from ever working in TV or movies for what they did in ENT S4E22.  FWIW, when the alien space nazis were revealed in the last seven minutes of ENT S3E24 "Zero Hour", I dropped ENT and didn't watch Season 4 until four years later, via Netflix DVDs, at the recommendation of a friend on the internet.

I got started watching Babylon 5 back in Sept. 1996 on the recommendation of a friend and fellow engineer, who knew that I was getting 110% fed-up with DS9 & VOY.  I currently have no Trek DVDs in my collection.  OTOH, I have every Babylon 5 and Crusade DVD, the short stories (all out of print), the novels, mugs, baseball caps, some figurines (some pewter, some plastic) and even some of the comics/graphic novels.  The only other TV series/novels I'm into nearly as much as Babylon 5 is The Dresden Files.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 05, 2013, 07:50:31 PM
DS9 is actually, I understand it, the bastard cousin of B5.
Strazinsky showed the idea for B5 around Hollywood and that included Paramount
and, lo and behold, several months afterwards they come up with DS9.
And yes, Paramount has "borrowed" other people's ideas before.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 05, 2013, 08:02:18 PM
DS9 is actually, I understand it, the bastard cousin of B5.
Strazinsky showed the idea for B5 around Hollywood and that included Paramount
and, lo and behold, several months afterwards they come up with DS9.
And yes, Paramount has "borrowed" other people's ideas before.

It's funny how Not interested. and We're coming out with our own show revolving around a space station. turns into their own series fast when lots of money is thrown at a project, huh?  B5's cost per episode was less than half of DS9's.  Hell, Paramount spent more on Voyager's 2-hour pilot than was spent on any SEASON of Babylon 5.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on February 05, 2013, 09:04:37 PM
I admit I've seen a Handfull of Babylon five episodes and I like what they were doing but some of it seemed...silly

DS9 did have the problems of too many cooks in the kitchen.
Paramount wanted x (We want something the Kids, Families, and the Fans can watch)
The producers wanted y (They wanted to Do what would become Battlestar Glattica, and some of them wanted to do Gene's 'vision")
the fans wanted Z (The Fans wanted, Borg or Crossovers, or Boobs or who knows what Star Trek fans want, and more importantly who cares)

Sadly you jumped ship on DS9 right before it got good, the last 3 seasons were great.

JJ is making Star Trek assessable to well, everyone who is not us.
You have no idea the number of people I've met who go, Yeah I've tried to Watch Star Trek TNG/VOYAGER/DS9 but it was so boring/corny/weird. But then I saw that Star Trek movie and it was Really fun!
You bought the DVD, so he got your "vote" as it were. But me and you will go see bad movies or "Okay" movies because we are loyal to the Franchise.  But even that didn't stop Star Trek Nemesis from Tanking


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 05, 2013, 10:00:34 PM
I admit I've seen a Handfull of Babylon five episodes and I like what they were doing but some of it seemed...silly

You really ought to watch B5, from the pilot (which is rough, and they made changes between the pilot and S1E1.), and Seasons 1 thru 5, in order, and the TV movies, where they fall in the series timeline, plus Crusade.  What did you think was silly, Centauri hairstyles?  The higher the crest, the higher the rank, until one balding Centauri emperor gave up the trappings of appearance in 2259 when he was quite old and very ill and couldn't be bothered with a wig, and one Centauri emperor adopted a short crest in 2261, but he was insane.  The only part of Babylon 5 that I'd avoid is the Legend of the Rangers Sci-Fi Original movie.

The fall of Londo Mollari, which spans Seasons 1 thru 5, is particularly poignant.  See http://youtu.be/6_QquHyveg4

See also:

http://www.b5tv.com/showthread.php?t=11668
http://www.b5tv.com/showthread.php?t=11723



DS9 did have the problems of too many cooks in the kitchen.
Paramount wanted x (We want something the Kids, Families, and the Fans can watch)
The producers wanted y (They wanted to Do what would become Battlestar Glattica, and some of them wanted to do Gene's 'vision")
the fans wanted Z (The Fans wanted, Borg or Crossovers, or Boobs or who knows what Star Trek fans want, and more importantly who cares)

Sadly you jumped ship on DS9 right before it got good, the last 3 seasons were great.

I just couldn't stand it any longer.

JJ is making Star Trek assessable to well, everyone who is not us.
You have no idea the number of people I've met who go, Yeah I've tried to Watch Star Trek TNG/VOYAGER/DS9 but it was so boring/corny/weird. But then I saw that Star Trek movie and it was Really fun!

Oh, I really don't understand people anymore.  It's probably partly due to new effects.  That's part of why some people get turned off of Babylon 5 when they're watching the pilot or Season 1, the crude, initial effects.  The thing is, Babylon 5 effects improved every year.  If you stick with it long enough to get into the story, you'll make allowances for the initial effects.  The thing is, Babylon 5 is a complex story, with many threads running through each episode, and you'll see things on the second viewing of the series that you didn't see on the first. Ditto for subsequent viewings.

You bought the DVD, so he got your "vote" as it were. But me and you will go see bad movies or "Okay" movies because we are loyal to the Franchise.  But even that didn't stop Star Trek Nemesis from Tanking

I kind of liked the effects in "Star Trek: Nemesis" and I'm always happy to see Dina Meyer.  ;D   The Picard and Shinzon (I had to look that name up.) got really tiresome.  If I'd kept "Star Trek: Nemesis" in my DVD collection (Bought it for less than $10 at Wal-Mart.), it would've been for the space battles.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 06, 2013, 01:11:30 PM
sooooo....  Dresden Files Casting....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 06, 2013, 01:25:48 PM
Oops, sorry!   :-[   Maybe I should do a Dresden Files casting with the Babylon 5/Crusade cast.  Hmmmm.  ....but probably none of you here would get it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on February 06, 2013, 02:45:58 PM
sooooo....  Dresden Files Casting....
What's the Dresden Files?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 06, 2013, 02:58:09 PM
A books series.  Recently described as what would happen if Harry Potter got drunk and lost his virginity to the Ghostbusters.  You should try it.

...The Books I mean.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Denarian on February 06, 2013, 11:11:42 PM
Patrick Stewart = Arthur Langtry
William Shatner = Ebeneezer McCoy
Leonard Nimoy = The Gatekeeper
George Takei = Ancient Mai
Walter Koenig = Aaron LaFortier
Nichelle Nichols = Martha Liberty
Robert Beltran = Gregori Cristos
Marina Sirtis = Original Anastasia Luccio
Jonathan Frakes = Donald Morgan
Brent Spiner = Grevane
Michael Dorn = Cowl
Scott Bakula = Malcolm Dresden
Jeri Ryan = Mab
Jolene Blalock = Titania
Gates McFaddon = Mother Summer
Kate Mulgrew = Mother Winter
Wil Wheaton = Peabody
Zachary Quinto = Harry Dresden
Benedict Cumberbach = Thomas Raith
Alice Eve = Karrin Murphy
Anton Yelchin = Waldo Butters
Karl Urban = Justin DuMorne (flashbacks)
Zoe Saldana = Young Corpsetaker; Young Luccio
Chris Pine = Jared Kincaid
John Cho = Xin Li (sp?)
Simon Pegg = Warden 'Steed' Chandler
The scary part is I've already been picturing Martha Liberty as Nichelle Nichols. :o

And now, because I am a raving lunatic fan of Dan Harmon's Community, I present:

Joel McHale as Harry Dresden
Gillian Jacobs as Karrin Murphy
Alison Brie as Molly Carpenter
Danny Pudi as Waldo Butters
Donald Glover as Carlos Ramirez
Yvette Nicole Brown as Charity Carpenter
Chevy Chase as Bob the Skull
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on February 18, 2013, 06:04:19 PM
Okay, so I went and saw "A Good Day to Die Hard" this weekend, and half-way through I leaned over to my wife and said ...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 18, 2013, 06:43:14 PM
Okay, so I went and saw "A Good Day to Die Hard" this weekend, and half-way through I leaned over to my wife and said ...

(click to show/hide)

How about Wilford Brimley as Ebenezer?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on February 18, 2013, 06:46:24 PM
How about Wilford Brimley as Ebenezer?

Would he use magic to fight "diabetus"?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on February 18, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
How about Wilford Brimley as Ebenezer?

I know this may sound odd, but I think he's too old.  He doesn't seem to be the kind of guy who would still be working his farm in the Ozarks.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 18, 2013, 06:52:12 PM
Fred D. Thompson for Eb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on February 18, 2013, 10:35:18 PM
I was wandering youtube and came across you doing that monologue and now I'm going to have trouble finding another Molly. It'd be really convenient if you could become famous and do a bunch of TV so I have some clips to cut from.

Oh, gods. XD  I've only done theater in the past, and screen acting is a totally different beast.  But I had to prepare a monologue for my application to CalArts' film directing program, and I figured why not go with a piece of text that was meaningful to me?  Now that I'm at USC, I'll be sticking to the other side of the camera for the foreseeable future, and the world will be better for it.  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 19, 2013, 03:25:23 PM
Would he use magic to fight "diabetus"?

Of course!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 19, 2013, 03:26:47 PM
Fred D. Thompson for Eb.

Good one.  Yeah, that could work.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 19, 2013, 04:04:50 PM
the world will be better for it.  :D
I respectfully disagree.  The world would be a richer place for having you on screen.   We do have you-as-Molly in a Worldbuilder's charity calender, so a good cause is richer already for your image :)

PS  Everyone go buy one right now!  They are on sale at ThinkGeek (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f273/?srp=1#tabs), and its for a worthy cause
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 19, 2013, 06:10:40 PM
*sighs* :'( Can't buy ThinkGeek things. Which is probably good for my economy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 19, 2013, 07:33:15 PM
*sighs* :'( Can't buy ThinkGeek things. Which is probably good for my economy.

You can always have me buy something for you off Think Geek and mail it to you, Dina.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 19, 2013, 07:40:16 PM
Aww, thank you! That could be an option, specially with something relatively cheap to send.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 19, 2013, 07:41:34 PM
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 19, 2013, 07:43:28 PM
Hmm Muscial Cast
Harry-Nate Fillon
Butters Niel Patrick Harris
Marcorne - John Barrowman this could work has both Musical and Non
Eb- Willie Nelson
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on February 19, 2013, 10:23:09 PM
Ooo, John Barrowman would be good.

On an unrelated note, I wonder what an all British cast for the Dresden Files would look like?

Maybe Alan Rickman for Harry? Any other thoughts?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 20, 2013, 12:44:49 AM
Ooo, John Barrowman would be good.

On an unrelated note, I wonder what an all British cast for the Dresden Files would look like?

Maybe Alan Rickman for Harry? Any other thoughts?

Has anybody here got a complete list of characters from the books (thru Cold Days), or is it available online?  Maybe Jim Butcher has one he could share?  It'd make this a lot easier and more consistent.  I've drifted away from the books (mid-Turn Coat) and I'm having a tough time remembering all of the character names.  :(  [shrug] I'm marathon watching TV shows on DVD and am currently on The Mentalist.  Not enough time to do everything.  If I catch up on one thing, other things slip.  I need clones and a hive mind!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 20, 2013, 12:47:56 AM
I now want John Borroman as Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on February 20, 2013, 01:13:43 AM
Has anybody here got a complete list of characters from the books (thru Cold Days), or is it available online?  Maybe Jim Butcher has one he could share?  It'd make this a lot easier and more consistent.  I've drifted away from the books (mid-Turn Coat) and I'm having a tough time remembering all of the character names.  :(  [shrug] I'm marathon watching TV shows on DVD and am currently on The Mentalist.  Not enough time to do everything.  If I catch up on one thing, other things slip.  I need clones and a hive mind!

Well, let's give it a shot.

Harry
Murphy
Carmichael
Susan
Mac
Billy
Georgia
Andy
Kirby
Bianca
Marva
Ferrovax
Michael
Charity
Father Fortill
Thomas
Justine
Mab
Lea
Maeve
Titania
Elaine
Injun Joe
Gatekeeper
Eb
Merlin
Ancient Mai
Martha Liberty
Peabody
Justin DuMorne


ok, at this point, this list is already ridiculously long.

Madrigal
Papa Raith
Marcone
Fix
Lily
Mother Winter
Mother Summer
Slate
Molly
Steed
Luccio
Hendricks
Gard
Vannderrung
He Who Walks Behind
Demonreach
Nicodemus


I know I'm leaving out people. Important, big people. But my brain just doesn't want to work anymore. Copy and paste with the people I forgot.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 20, 2013, 01:39:49 AM
A while back I started working on a list of every character, and each appearance.  I managed to list everyone who appeared in RoF, SF, FM, and GP.  The list is up to 97 characters. 

I haven't worked on it in a while, but there are tons to go.  I promised myself that I'd compile more on my next series read-through.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 20, 2013, 02:13:30 AM
I think John Barrowman would be good for one of the White Court.
Maybe Madrigal?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 20, 2013, 02:15:16 AM
Lord Raith  ;D. But yes, he could do Madrigal too.
I don't like him for Marcone, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 20, 2013, 02:16:07 AM
No, Barrowman isn't truly icy enough for Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tami Seven on February 20, 2013, 03:41:35 AM
What about just Voice Acting? For an animated work. He doesn't look the part, but I think James Marsters captures Harry's voice perfectly.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on February 20, 2013, 09:02:48 AM
What about just Voice Acting? For an animated work. He doesn't look the part, but I think James Marsters captures Harry's voice perfectly.
Agreed, in fact I would dare say he has enough range to carry most of the male characters... though I have always felt he made Thomas's voice too deep.  My top choice for Thomas both animated, and live would be Matt Bomer( Neil "white collar")
And going animated... I would change Butters From My top choice of David Tennant, to James Roday ( Shawn "psych")
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 20, 2013, 12:12:04 PM
Changes/Additions in Bold:

Harry
Murphy
Carmichael
Susan
Mac
Billy
Georgia
Andy
Kirby
Bianca
Marva
Ferrovax
Michael
Charity
Father Fortill
Thomas
Justine
Mab
Lea
Maeve
Titania
Elaine
Injun Joe
Gatekeeper
Eb
Merlin
Ancient Mai
Martha Liberty
Peabody
Justin DuMorne


ok, at this point, this list is already ridiculously long.

Madrigal
Lord Raith
Marcone
Fix
Lily
Mother Winter
Mother Summer
Slate
Molly
Steed
Luccio
Hendricks
Gard
Vannderrung
He Who Walks Behind
Demonreach
Nicodemus
Toot Toot
Lara Raith
Butters
Harry's fellow Warden from out west
the two other Knights of the Cross, one Russian and one Asian
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on February 20, 2013, 06:40:01 PM
Toot Toot
Lara Raith
Butters
Harry's fellow Warden from out west
the two other Knights of the Cross, one Russian and one Asian

You mean Carlos?

Sanya and Shiro?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on February 20, 2013, 06:42:08 PM
How about Robert Redford for Pappa Raith?
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTk1Nzc5MzQyMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjQ5OTA0Mg@@._V1._SY314_CR6,0,214,314_.jpg)

Then I was thinking about Walton Groggins for Marcone.
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTYxMjY4Mzc4NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzExMDgxNw@@._V1._SY314_CR14,0,214,314_.jpg)

And I could totally go with Megan Fox as Lara or Mab or Maeve but not Molly.
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTc5MjgyMzk4NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODk2OTM4Mg@@._V1._SY314_CR3,0,214,314_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 20, 2013, 06:51:20 PM
I can't see the pictures, but Redford is too old. Vampires didn't age.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on February 20, 2013, 07:00:12 PM
I can't see the pictures, but Redford is too old. Vampires didn't age.

You know, that was in the back of my head, but I do see Pappa Raith seeming to be older than the others.

You know, maybe Barrowman as Pappa Raith.  He's certainly pretty enough, and mature enough.  I really don't see him as Marcone.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 20, 2013, 07:02:23 PM
I think John Barrowman would be good for one of the White Court.
Maybe Madrigal?

Lord Raith  ;D. But yes, he could do Madrigal too.
I don't like him for Marcone, though.

I agree with you, Rasins.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 21, 2013, 12:29:23 AM
You know, that was in the back of my head, but I do see Pappa Raith seeming to be older than the others.

You know, maybe Barrowman as Pappa Raith.  He's certainly pretty enough, and mature enough.  I really don't see him as Marcone.

So if Bomer is Thomas...
(http://pabblogger.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/matt-bomer-2.jpg)


My choices for Lord Raith are either Rob Lowe, who looks like an older Bomer to me...
(http://images.smh.com.au/2010/06/29/1654971/rob_lowe_420-420x0.jpg)


or Colin Farrell, who is barely older than Bomer, but could be a young ruling vampire.
(http://www.missceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/colin-farrell-suit-2012.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 21, 2013, 12:30:38 AM
Rob Lowe is a good idea.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 21, 2013, 02:19:05 AM
Rob Lowe is a good call, though I dont really see it with Collin Farrel.

Another one the I can see pulling off an older sibling of Matt Bomer (as is the age difference to Papa Raith)  is
(http://us.cdn002.fansshare.com/photos/matthewmcconaughey/matthew-mcconaughey-859641854.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 21, 2013, 07:52:20 AM
You mean Carlos?

Sanya and Shiro?

Yes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on February 21, 2013, 08:00:37 AM
How about Robert Redford for Pappa Raith?
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTk1Nzc5MzQyMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjQ5OTA0Mg@@._V1._SY314_CR6,0,214,314_.jpg)

Then I was thinking about Walton Groggins for Marcone.
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTYxMjY4Mzc4NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzExMDgxNw@@._V1._SY314_CR14,0,214,314_.jpg)

And I could totally go with Megan Fox as Lara or Mab or Maeve but not Molly.
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTc5MjgyMzk4NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODk2OTM4Mg@@._V1._SY314_CR3,0,214,314_.jpg)

I love Walton as a bad guy, but I don't see him as a Marcone.  I can very much see Ms. Fox playing Maeve/Sarrissa
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 21, 2013, 03:34:15 PM
I love Walton as a bad guy, but I don't see him as a Marcone.  I can very much see Ms. Fox playing Maeve/Sarrissa

How about Walton as Lloyd Slate, the Winter Knight before Harry?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 21, 2013, 07:03:54 PM
I like
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as Lloyd Slate, the Winter Knight before Harry
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on February 21, 2013, 07:20:35 PM
Ohhh ... how about Timothy Olyphant as Marcone?

Theo Rossi as Carlos

Michael Marisi Ornstein as Butters

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 22, 2013, 12:19:41 AM
Ohhh ... how about Timothy Olyphant as Marcone?
He always struck me as a little too slimy for Marcone.  Marcone is described as almost Kindly seeming on first meeting.  But he would make a great Nicodemus, I think.  He has that underspoken creepiness, and the lanky build I always pictured.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on February 22, 2013, 12:50:11 AM
Ohhh ... how about Timothy Olyphant as Marcone?

Theo Rossi as Carlos

Michael Marisi Ornstein as Butters

There have been times I've considered Olyphant for Dresden himself.  Not seeing Marcone really.

Ornstein is too bald for Butters.  If I were going to go with a bald Butters, I'd go either Willie Garson or David Cross.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on February 22, 2013, 03:07:15 AM
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There have been times I've considered Olyphant for Dresden himself.  Not seeing Marcone really.
Same here his scowl and weight does not seem to say Crime Boss to me.  For Sayan- Michael Kenneth William (Omar)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on February 22, 2013, 07:03:54 AM
How about Walton as Lloyd Slate, the Winter Knight before Harry?

Yes.... That kind of Bad guy is right up his alley. and it seems to be the kind of part he favors...GOOD CALL!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on February 22, 2013, 05:53:49 PM
He always struck me as a little too slimy for Marcone.  Marcone is described as almost Kindly seeming on first meeting.  But he would make a great Nicodemus, I think.  He has that underspoken creepiness, and the lanky build I always pictured.

I started watching my mom's Boomtown DVDs the other day and couldn't help thinking with the right hair and color contacts Neal McDonough would have made a good Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on February 22, 2013, 07:33:28 PM
I agree with that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 23, 2013, 03:50:46 PM
I started watching my mom's Boomtown DVDs the other day and couldn't help thinking with the right hair and color contacts Neal McDonough would have made a good Marcone.

Still too Celtic, however, with his almost albino skin coloration, light hair color and icy blue eyes, he'd be a natural for the Winter Faerie Court or a White Vampire Court.  Did you see him in Justified?  I think he'd be better as Lord Raith, although I don't see Lara and Harry getting the better of him.  He'd best play a persistent, formidble character in the Winter Faerie Court or a White Vampire Court.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on February 23, 2013, 04:16:08 PM
He always struck me as a little too slimy for Marcone.  Marcone is described as almost Kindly seeming on first meeting.  But he would make a great Nicodemus, I think.  He has that underspoken creepiness, and the lanky build I always pictured.

For Marcone, I'd pick Anthony LaPaglia (54) or Jonathan LaPaglia (43).  Can't remember Marcone's age, but Anthony is perhaps a little too old to play Marcone.

Remember, Timothy Olyphant is of Scottish descent.  Not exactly Marcone material.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 25, 2013, 02:34:46 PM
For Marcone, I'd pick Anthony LaPaglia (54) or Jonathan LaPaglia (43).  Can't remember Marcone's age, but Anthony is perhaps a little too old to play Marcone.

Remember, Timothy Olyphant is of Scottish descent.  Not exactly Marcone material.
If memory serves he was in his mid 40's at the beginning of the series.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on February 25, 2013, 06:48:43 PM
OK, going full Blown animation, this is is my casting 1st and 2nd choices... Trying to set realistic standards and goals save for one.  Also In an Animated feature, One person can be multi tasked to play multiple parts, hense the multiple uses of certain names... I know some main characters were left out… but these are the ones I feel most strongly about.

Harry                       James Marsters, Vincent Ventresca
Bob                          James Marsters, Terrance Mann
Murphy                    Sarah Michelle Gellar
Morgan                     Conrad Coats (Played him in the series, I still think the voice is right), James Marsters
Carmichael               Paul Ben-Victor
Stallings                   Bruce Cambell
Susan                      Jordana Brewster
Mac                         James Marsters
Sanya                      Aries Spears ( Watch his comedy show, the things he can do with accents is amazing)
Shiro                       Pat Morita ( "The Karate kid" fame for those of us who do not remember the 80's)
Rowlins                    The Late Michael Duncan Clark, Ving Rhames
Michael                    Corbin Bernsen
Charity                     Kirsten Nelson   (Psych)
Father Fortill             Micheal Gross, John Glover ( Read Ghost Story for audio, His Forthill was done with a slight Irish accent, one of the few changes he did from the series I approve of)
Thomas                    Matt Bomer
Justin DuMorne         John Glover
Marcone                   Richard Burgi
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Homer on February 25, 2013, 06:49:45 PM
Still too Celtic, however, with his almost albino skin coloration, light hair color and icy blue eyes, he'd be a natural for the Winter Faerie Court or a White Vampire Court.  Did you see him in Justified?  I think he'd be better as Lord Raith, although I don't see Lara and Harry getting the better of him.  He'd best play a persistent, formidble character in the Winter Faerie Court or a White Vampire Court.

I think I like that better.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on February 27, 2013, 04:45:56 AM
So, I'm watching Constantine on TV.  What do you think about Keanu Reeves for Harry?

He's tall, angular face, kind of dark.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Denarian on February 27, 2013, 05:13:45 AM
So, I'm watching Constantine on TV.  What do you think about Keanu Reeves for Harry?

He's tall, angular face, kind of dark.
He's got the appearance down, but he doesn't have the charisma or the flexibility to portray Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on February 27, 2013, 04:58:11 PM
He's got the appearance down, but he doesn't have the charisma or the flexibility to portray Harry.
In terms of pure look, He could do it, but no, I dont think Ive ever seen him pull off the emotional range he would need for Harry.  And that's not for a lack of opportunity. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on February 27, 2013, 05:14:59 PM
I agree with the two people with the same avatar  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Cadwallon on March 01, 2013, 06:10:08 AM
I've always pictured Eric Roberts as Marcone...Nicolas Cage's Balthazar in "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" was very Dresden - also most of Cage's characters are full of wise cracks in tense situations. I'd probably go with him.

Of the lot in the suggested list - I think Paul Bettany could really pull it off, make-up would need to do something about his fair colouring though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on March 02, 2013, 05:18:11 PM
I've always pictured Eric Roberts as Marcone...Nicolas Cage's Balthazar in "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" was very Dresden - also most of Cage's characters are full of wise cracks in tense situations. I'd probably go with him.

That's because The Sorcerer's Apprentice was shamelessly copied from Dresden. Nic Cage is one of the two people in Hollywood we have confirmation of who have read the books. The other (I believe) is Valerie Cruz, who played Murphy in the TV show (and is a favourite 'round here for Susan).

Of the lot in the suggested list - I think Paul Bettany could really pull it off, make-up would need to do something about his fair colouring though.

Ooh, yes. Make-up shouldn't be a problem, if naturally-ginger Benedict Cumberbatch can get known for tall, dark and handsome, or if naturally-brunette Sarah Michelle Gellar can get known for, well, Buffy... The accent could be a problem, but we've had a brit playing Dresden before.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tami Seven on March 03, 2013, 12:13:45 AM
How's this. LeVar Burton as Henry Rawlins?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on March 03, 2013, 05:16:09 AM
Perfect!! I love that idea Tami!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 03, 2013, 12:28:42 PM
How's this. LeVar Burton as Henry Rawlins?

While I like the idea of finding LeVar Burton work, Rawlins doesn't really fit. 

In PG, Rawlins is described as a large man.  In SmF, he's described as blocky, comfortably overweight, and as soft as a Brinks truck.
 ???
LeVar Burton is 5'7" and has a pretty soft voice.  I think he'd be more suited to Stallings.
(http://imnotobsessed.com/wp-content/uploads/levar-burton-celebrity-birthdays-for-february-16-5-856x1280.jpg)

Idris Elba is closer to how I picture Rawlins.  At 6'3, he's got the size and muscle, but not the paunch. 
(http://www.soulculture.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/idris-elba-in-luther.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: THE_ANGRY_GAMER on March 03, 2013, 12:33:37 PM
Idris Elba is closer to how I picture Rawlins.  At 6'3, he's got the size and muscle, but not the paunch. 
(http://www.soulculture.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/idris-elba-in-luther.jpg)

I think he'd make a better Sanya, IMO. We know he's good with accents from The Wire.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 03, 2013, 12:57:59 PM
I think he'd make a better Sanya, IMO. We know he's good with accents from The Wire.

I usually think of Sanya as being around Harry's age.  At least in appearance, not counting the years he was a coin-bearer. 

If I were casting younger, I'd say Sinqua Walls.  He's got the lean look of youth that might work for Sanya.
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTg3NTA0NzE3MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTI1NTYzMw@@._V1._SX214_CR0,0,214,314_.jpg)

If I were going for an older Sanya, I'd say Chiwetel Ejiofor.  He's got the physique, and martial arts training.
(http://img.poptower.com/pic-81491/chiwetel-ejiofor.jpg?d=600)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on March 03, 2013, 08:20:20 PM
Take a look, it's in a book!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 04, 2013, 02:11:13 PM
For Sanya, I think Peter Mensah would work nicely.  I used to be pretty stuck on the late Michael Clarke Duncan, and still think he fits the descriptions in Changes best, but I also am starting to wonder if a cavalry saber would just look diminutive and unimpressive when wielded by somebody of his scale.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 04, 2013, 04:13:51 PM
For Sanya, I think Peter Mensah would work nicely.  I used to be pretty stuck on the late Michael Clarke Duncan, and still think he fits the descriptions in Changes best, but I also am starting to wonder if a cavalry saber would just look diminutive and unimpressive when wielded by somebody of his scale.

(click to show/hide)

I like Peter Mensah, but when Sanya is first introduced in DM, he's described as a 'young' man.  Mensah is currently 53.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 04, 2013, 04:27:03 PM
I like Peter Mensah, but when Sanya is first introduced in DM, he's described as a 'young' man.  Mensah is currently 53.
Fair enough, but he could have fooled me
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on March 04, 2013, 04:58:20 PM
I'd like to see Alain Chanoine as Sonya.  He can do stunts and has the right look, in my opinion.

(http://www.onsetstunts.com/performers/chanoine_alain/chanoine_alain_ph02.jpg)

I also like Henry Cavill for Harry.  At 6'1'', he can pull off the height requirement.

(http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/superman-henry-cavill.jpg?w=600&h=404)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 04, 2013, 05:03:21 PM
I also like Henry Cavill for Harry.  At 6'1'', he can pull off the height requirement.

(http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/superman-henry-cavill.jpg?w=600&h=404)
Yes, but he is doing Superman.  Thus, he is cursed to never do another major thing in his career.  That would be almost as catastrophic as casting Summer Glau in a role...   :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on March 04, 2013, 06:58:33 PM
This is true.  He is doomed.  Kind of like Harry?   ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 04, 2013, 08:50:42 PM
This is true.  He is doomed.  Kind of like Harry?   ;)
Harry himself is doomed sure, but the Dresden Files Franchise isnt...Right?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on March 04, 2013, 09:15:57 PM
True again.  You are a wise one Q.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 04, 2013, 09:26:20 PM
Anyone ever consider Fred Weller for Harry?  He's 6'2", skinny, pale... too old to be Harry from the beginning (46), but oh well.
(http://media.screened.com/uploads/1/14932/510899-aldescubierto_pizquita_com_002.jpg)
(http://newimages.bwwstatic.com/columnpic/Frederick%20Weller%2043%20-%20photo%20Joan%20Marcus.JPG)
(http://eclipsemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/MarshallMannRobertAscroft.jpg)
(http://www.simonandschuster.com/images/authors/22655890.jpg)
(http://cdn.theatermania.com/article/9992/1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 04, 2013, 11:32:43 PM
He has a complacency that just isn't right for harry. It's in the eyes.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on March 05, 2013, 12:00:26 AM
He has a complacency that just isn't right for harry. It's in the eyes.

Re. Fred Weller for Harry? ....yeah, you're right.  I'm thinking more and more that Timothy Olyphant would be right as Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on March 05, 2013, 06:01:08 PM
Rena Sofer as Bianca
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2602081024/nm0812133)

Kate Mara as Bianca's assistant (whatever her name is)
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4274094336/nm0544718)

Kevin Spacey as Mac
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3294075648/nm0000228)

Gabriel Macht as Marcone
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2274920192/nm0532683)

Tom Cruise as Victor Sells
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3938159104/nm0000129)

Chris Hemsworth as Cujo Hendricks
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3936529408/nm1165110)

Natalie Portman as Gard
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm512132096/nm0000204)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 05, 2013, 07:12:04 PM
Rena Sofer as Bianca
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2602081024/nm0812133)

Kate Mara as Bianca's assistant (whatever her name is)
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4274094336/nm0544718)

Kevin Spacey as Mac
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3294075648/nm0000228)

Gabriel Macht as Marcone
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2274920192/nm0532683)

Tom Cruise as Victor Sells
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3938159104/nm0000129)

Chris Hemsworth as Cujo Hendricks
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3936529408/nm1165110)

Natalie Portman as Gard
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm512132096/nm0000204)

All image links dead.  Also, almost all names too Big, ya know? 

I like Gabriel Macht in Suits.  He can do angry well, but because of his lip scar/curl, it doesn't come across as that hard look I imagine Marcone can pull.  He just comes across as pissed/angry.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on March 05, 2013, 07:32:58 PM
All image links dead.  Also, almost all names too Big, ya know? 

I like Gabriel Macht in Suits.  He can do angry well, but because of his lip scar/curl, it doesn't come across as that hard look I imagine Marcone can pull.  He just comes across as pissed/angry.

Odd.  When I previewed it, they came up fine ... Hmmm...

Thanks
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on March 05, 2013, 07:46:42 PM
Natalie Portman as Gard
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm512132096/nm0000204)

Isn't Gard tall and blonde?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on March 05, 2013, 07:51:32 PM
Isn't Gard tall and blonde?

Wasn't Natalie bald in one movie?  That's just a matter of bleach.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on March 05, 2013, 08:05:05 PM
Wasn't Natalie bald in one movie?  That's just a matter of bleach.

...and stretching her on the rack. [kidding]  Uma Thurman would be more like Gard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on March 05, 2013, 08:12:01 PM
...and stretching her on the rack. [kidding]  Uma Thurman would be more like Gard.

I could buy that.  She kind of scares me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on March 06, 2013, 05:38:10 AM
Uma Thurman would be more like Gard.
Totally on board with this one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Denarian on March 06, 2013, 06:31:00 AM
Uma Thurman would be more like Gard.

I approve. She has both the build and the presence.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 06, 2013, 10:17:18 PM
Has anyone seen the show Nikita? The main girl from that would make a great Gard. If in spirit and not in looks. She just seems like a good candidate.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 06, 2013, 10:41:51 PM
Has anyone seen the show Nikita? The main girl from that would make a great Gard. If in spirit and not in looks. She just seems like a good candidate.
Well, there is the current one, staring Maggie Q, then there is the original tv series from the late 90's, which stared Peta Wilson, and there there is the original French film, which stared Anne Parilaud, along with the American remake that starred Bridget Fonda.
(http://cdn.1920x1200.net/posts/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/maggie_q_1920_1200_sep182010.jpg)
(http://thumbs.mywallpapers.org/files/wallpapers/14/1485/Peta_Wilson-001.jpg)
(http://clothesonfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Nikita_Anne-Parillaud_black-dress_side-kitchen.bmp.jpg)
(http://cdn.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/bridget_fonda_kiss_of_the_dragon_001.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 06, 2013, 11:47:17 PM
 Maggie Q is the one I mean.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on March 07, 2013, 01:01:32 AM
My two ideas for Guard are Natasha Henstridge:

(http://cdn.blogs.sheknows.com/celebrityphotos.sheknows.com/2008/07/natasha-henstridge-sleek-blonde-hairstyle.jpg)

or Tricia Helfer:

(http://www.scifiscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/tricia_helfer_warehouse_13.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on March 07, 2013, 01:18:31 AM
I thought about Natasha too. Another option is Kristanna Loken (the T-X)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on March 07, 2013, 01:43:13 AM
My two ideas for Guard are Natasha Henstridge or Tricia Helfer.

Both are excellent choices.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on March 07, 2013, 03:07:58 AM
Jeri Ryan for Gard.
(7 of 9 from Voyager)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 07, 2013, 03:17:02 AM
My two ideas for Guard are Natasha Henstridge:

or Tricia Helfer:

I like Helfer for Mab.  Henstridge might be a good Charity.

Jeri Ryan for Gard.
(7 of 9 from Voyager)

Ryan is definitely Titania
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DhF64eIu3Qc/TICNjPT6W2I/AAAAAAAAApI/tt-jiR7U6rA/s1600/jeri_ryan_012.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ۞†Grey Warden†۞ on March 07, 2013, 03:24:54 AM
I put myself forward as Extra Number 7
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 07, 2013, 01:57:21 PM
Arent Titania and Mab supposed to look identical?  Not sisters, but Clones.  So it would probably be worth while to find an actress that could pull off both sides of that coin, the Cold and ruthless and the Fiery rage.  Tricia Heffer could do that.  I havent seen Jeri Ryan in enough outside of Voyager.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on March 07, 2013, 03:33:15 PM
I insist with Charlize Theron.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 07, 2013, 04:03:28 PM
I insist with Charlize Theron.
I'd rather see Theron as Charity Carpenter or someone else rather than either of the Queens.  I saw her in SW&tH, and I wasn't that impressed with her 'evil queen'.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on March 07, 2013, 04:08:33 PM
I was, that is why I thought in her. Charity is different in my book.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 07, 2013, 05:43:31 PM
I'd rather see Theron as Charity Carpenter or someone else rather than either of the Queens.  I saw her in SW&tH, and I wasn't that impressed with her 'evil queen'.
Wasnt impressed with the movie as a whole, but she did do bat-sh*t crazy pretty damn well. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on March 07, 2013, 07:39:22 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kael Tucker on March 09, 2013, 06:58:43 PM
I like Helfer for Mab.  Henstridge might be a good Charity.

Ryan is definitely Titania
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DhF64eIu3Qc/TICNjPT6W2I/AAAAAAAAApI/tt-jiR7U6rA/s1600/jeri_ryan_012.jpg)

Remember that mab and Titiana are Identical in appearence. as well as Maeve and Sarissa... so If we have to have actresses that can play both sides of the coin... That being said, Ryan is a go for Mab too
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 09, 2013, 08:31:00 PM
Remember that mab and Titiana are Identical in appearence. as well as Maeve and Sarissa... so If we have to have actresses that can play both sides of the coin... That being said, Ryan is a go for Mab too
If you read it like I did, Mab and Titania are identical, Maeve looks like a young clone of Mab, Maeve and Aurora are identical, Maeve and Sarissa are identical, and Maeve and Lily (near the end) are almost identical.  I think some of their similarities are due to familial traits (since Mab and Titania are sisters, Maee & Sarissa are sisters, and Maeve & Aurora are cousins).  I don't think they're actually identical; I think they just have similar traits, and then the mantles change them further into that surreal, glamorous beauty.  Lily was always beautiful, but Harry noted in CD I believe that she looked like Aurora.  I don't think she physically morphed into Aurora; I think the essence of her presence changed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 11, 2013, 05:26:51 PM
If you read it like I did, Mab and Titania are identical, Maeve looks like a young clone of Mab, Maeve and Aurora are identical, Maeve and Sarissa are identical, and Maeve and Lily (near the end) are almost identical.  I think some of their similarities are due to familial traits (since Mab and Titania are sisters, Maee & Sarissa are sisters, and Maeve & Aurora are cousins).  I don't think they're actually identical; I think they just have similar traits, and then the mantles change them further into that surreal, glamorous beauty.  Lily was always beautiful, but Harry noted in CD I believe that she looked like Aurora.  I don't think she physically morphed into Aurora; I think the essence of her presence changed.
According the CD, Mab and Titania dont look like Sisters, they look like clones.  It is entirely possibel that over th years teh Mantles warp their bearers physically, and there were always descriptions of the others having similarities, but those two have taken it to the point where they'd need to share an actress
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on March 11, 2013, 06:08:44 PM
According the CD, Mab and Titania dont look like Sisters, they look like clones.  It is entirely possibel that over th years teh Mantles warp their bearers physically, and there were always descriptions of the others having similarities, but those two have taken it to the point where they'd need to share an actress

Or maybe use the Olson Twins?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 11, 2013, 11:14:39 PM
According the CD, Mab and Titania dont look like Sisters, they look like clones.  It is entirely possibel that over th years teh Mantles warp their bearers physically, and there were always descriptions of the others having similarities, but those two have taken it to the point where they'd need to share an actress
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on March 12, 2013, 03:44:03 PM
How about the following twins for casting?

Katelyn and Kara Pacitto
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Or non-twins but dead ringers, Gemma Ward and Amanda Seyfried?

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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 12, 2013, 03:54:18 PM
How about the following twins for casting?

Katelyn and Kara Pacitto
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Or non-twins but dead ringers, Gemma Ward and Amanda Seyfried?

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I could get behind either of those castings. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on March 13, 2013, 12:23:53 AM
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Uh, what were we talking about?  I think I've been glamoured.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Drake on March 18, 2013, 04:17:09 AM
Adrien Brody... he's 6' 1".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on March 21, 2013, 04:08:36 AM
Hey everyone! First time poster, long time reader. I just created an account because this ia subject which ive been thinking about alot for the past few days and wanted to share my thoughts on a couple key characters.

Harry Dresden
This is a tough one. I don't think any of the choices have quite nailed it yet. Harry Dresden is a powerful wizard and one durable guy, but "cool" and "badass" are words that you can't really use to describe him; or at the very least words that he would never use to describe himself. In terms of his personality, he's a self-described geek who makes sarcastic jokes to himself, has bad luck with woman, and is often down on his luck. While he has mentioned that people have described him as attractive, he doesn't really seem to believe it himself, and lacks the confidence to really buy into that fact or the fact that he actually is a pretty cool guy. Overall he is a guy that never really seemed to grow out of his "awkward teenager" phase.
For this reason I think he should be played by someone with boyish and lean good looks, giving him a somewhat innocent feel while still being attractive and the appropriate age. People like Jared Padalecki and Sam Worthington just seem wrong to me as they project too much confidence.

My choice: Lucas Bryant (Haven)


Karrin Murphy
This one came to me pretty quickly. Karrin is an attractive; tough-as-nails cop whose outer maturity and badassery covers up the fact that she is actually dealt with alot of crap in her life. She definatly needs to be more grown up than Harry personality wise, as it makes it easier to see how she could mistrust him early in their relationship. I get the feeling that the reason Harry never seemed to even consider a relationship with her early in the series was because he saw her as too grown up for him. He initially knew her only as a cop, in time a woman/friend, and finally a peer. To keep this authority figure dynamic it is important that they cast someone of the appropriate age (early 30s). Actually I thought Valerie Cruz did a great job and was very close to the book character, but for the sake of keeping her looks more in line with the book series and the obvious nerd cred, I picked someone different.

My Choice: Sarah Michelle Gellar (Buffy The Vampire Slayer)

My Full Cast List:
http://www.imdb.com/list/B0TTWKLfl48/?publish=save

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 21, 2013, 12:47:27 PM
My Full Cast List:
http://www.imdb.com/list/B0TTWKLfl48/?publish=save
Not my first choices in most cases, but all good pics.  The only thing I have to say against it is that Jon Huertas is way too old for Carlos. Carlos is roughly Molly's age, a teenager at the latest in SK and in his early 20's later on.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on March 21, 2013, 04:05:30 PM
I give you Olivia Wilde as the Leansidhe

(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/8200000/Olivia-On-The-Beach-olivia-wilde-8280474-1280-800.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 21, 2013, 04:30:50 PM
Id rather see her as a Susan or Young Luccio.  Lea needs to have that instant creep factor, and Ive never gotten that from Wilde
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on March 21, 2013, 06:37:16 PM
Id rather see her as a Susan or Young Luccio.  Lea needs to have that instant creep factor, and Ive never gotten that from Wilde

Did you not see Cowboys Vs. Aliens, or Tron Legacy?  LOL
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on March 21, 2013, 08:42:37 PM
Probably, nothing more far away of my idea of Lea. Wilde is too harmless (I saw both movies. She is beautiful, but nothing else). I want somebody with the aura of Miranda Richardson, but younger and prettier.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 21, 2013, 09:38:10 PM
Did you not see Cowboys Vs. Aliens, or Tron Legacy?  LOL
The flicks wereent great, but in both cases she was pretty ans sweet and a little niave.  Certainly not the evil psycho schemer that Lea is. 

I tend to think all the Sidhe should be cast to resemble each other, same with the Wampires, so this isnt my top pick just because she does fit with a particular group of actresses, but Melinda Clarke would make a great Lea, I think.  Or an equally scary Charity. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 21, 2013, 09:51:06 PM
Id rather see her as a Susan or Young Luccio.  Lea needs to have that instant creep factor, and Ive never gotten that from Wilde

She's always been Lara to me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on March 21, 2013, 09:53:00 PM
I had thought in Melinda Clarke for Lea or Lara too. She would be good. Charity not. IMHO, Charity should have a frank, open face, while Clark seems to be always hidden something.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 21, 2013, 11:19:00 PM
I had thought in Melinda Clarke for Lea or Lara too. She would be good. Charity not. IMHO, Charity should have a frank, open face, while Clark seems to be always hidden something.
Klodi Monsoon is, and always will be, my image of Lea. 
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/319/0/3/03e6f37524dac2aa7c5ddd8082705a43-d4gan74.jpg)

If casting had been done a few years back, I would say that the best actress for Lea would be Famke Janssen.
(http://nerdbastards.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/famke-janssen-jean-grey.jpg)

Edit: Since (I doubt) someone will call me on it, I need to include Christina Hendricks, which I have previously said is my preferred casting for Lea.  She did a great 'crazy' on Firefly.  But I'm afraid we'll soon pass beyond the ideal casting age for her, if we were to start at the beginning of the series.
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on March 22, 2013, 09:41:02 PM
Not my first choices in most cases, but all good pics.  The only thing I have to say against it is that Jon Huertas is way too old for Carlos. Carlos is roughly Molly's age, a teenager at the latest in SK and in his early 20's later on.

Yea, il admit that I took a liberty with that casting, but here was my reasoning. Even though Carlos is a young man (I think he is mentioned as being 23 in Dead Beat), he has never been seen as anything but an equal to Harry. He is easily able to hold his own with the rest of the White Council in combat and is mature enough to be a trusted warden. Becuase of this his age has never seemed that relevant to Harry or anyone else. They treat him like a peer.

I felt that casting a signifigantly younger actor than Harry would at best result in a mentor/mentee relationship that didn't fit the character, and at worst could leave you with a Wesely Crusher. Therefore I chose to prioritize that peer dynamic over the described age of the character, and aged him by a few years.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 25, 2013, 02:33:01 PM
Yea, il admit that I took a liberty with that casting, but here was my reasoning. Even though Carlos is a young man (I think he is mentioned as being 23 in Dead Beat), he has never been seen as anything but an equal to Harry. He is easily able to hold his own with the rest of the White Council in combat and is mature enough to be a trusted warden. Becuase of this his age has never seemed that relevant to Harry or anyone else. They treat him like a peer.

I felt that casting a signifigantly younger actor than Harry would at best result in a mentor/mentee relationship that didn't fit the character, and at worst could leave you with a Wesely Crusher. Therefore I chose to prioritize that peer dynamic over the described age of the character, and aged him by a few years.
I dont think so.  I mean, there was always mutual respect there, but the age difference was also a big part of their relationship, especially during WN.  From the Old Man being grumpy in the morning because he couldnt keep up with the young whippersnappers in late night drinking to the whole Virgin thing
Harry is going to be noticeably older than all the New Guard wardens
and keeping a good, visible gap between the Old and New Guard is a line I wouldnt want to blur too much if it can be avoided
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on March 25, 2013, 04:00:48 PM
I dont think so.  I mean, there was always mutual respect there, but the age difference was also a big part of their relationship, especially during WN.  From the Old Man being grumpy in the morning because he couldnt keep up with the young whippersnappers in late night drinking to the whole Virgin thing
Harry is going to be noticeably older than all the New Guard wardens
and keeping a good, visible gap between the Old and New Guard is a line I wouldnt want to blur too much if it can be avoided

The age difference meat nothing except for the occasional insult/joke to one another or something else superficial. In terms of their relationship and overall interaction with one another, they were equals.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 25, 2013, 04:35:42 PM
The age difference meat nothing except for the occasional insult/joke to one another or something else superficial. In terms of their relationship and overall interaction with one another, they were equals.
I agree completely, but I dont just think that "equals" as Wardens has to also mean Equal ages.  Especially with the Virgin Joke.  Him being an early 20s virgin is cute and endearing; but a 40 year old virgin has a whole different connotation. 

Besides, at that point Harry will also be dealing with and/or dating an early 20-something Luccio, and having Carlos already on screen and established as a young compatriot that is never-the-less treated as an equal will do a lot to smooth over some of the age difference involved in that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on March 25, 2013, 06:26:23 PM
I agree completely, but I dont just think that "equals" as Wardens has to also mean Equal ages.  Especially with the Virgin Joke.  Him being an early 20s virgin is cute and endearing; but a 40 year old virgin has a whole different connotation. 

Besides, at that point Harry will also be dealing with and/or dating an early 20-something Luccio, and having Carlos already on screen and established as a young compatriot that is never-the-less treated as an equal will do a lot to smooth over some of the age difference involved in that.

I do agree that the Virgin thing wouldn't quite work if he is made to be Harry's age. But you said it yourself that in the books Carlos is roughly Molly's age (about 5-6 years older). But if you compare the two there is a world of difference in thier personality and maturity levels that I just don't think would come across if they were made to be around the same age.

I don't think Harry being involved with Luccio would be as huge of a problem, as actresses in thier early 20s playing roles that involve them hooking up with men in thier 30s isn't too uncommon on tv (Supernatural is a good example). In fact im fairly certain that women above the age of 30 are only allowed on tv in rare instances. If you get an actress with the right amount of maturity it shouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on March 25, 2013, 07:13:58 PM
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 25, 2013, 07:47:08 PM
I do agree that the Virgin thing wouldn't quite work if he is made to be Harry's age. But you said it yourself that in the books Carlos is roughly Molly's age (about 5-6 years older). But if you compare the two there is a world of difference in thier personality and maturity levels that I just don't think would come across if they were made to be around the same age.

I don't think Harry being involved with Luccio would be as huge of a problem, as actresses in thier early 20s playing roles that involve them hooking up with men in thier 30s isn't too uncommon on tv (Supernatural is a good example). In fact im fairly certain that women above the age of 30 are only allowed on tv in rare instances. If you get an actress with the right amount of maturity it shouldn't be an issue.
Carlos isnt exactly a picture of maturity and ages wisdom here.  I mean, he knows when to get serious and put his game face on, but the rest of the time he is a cocky loudmouth, and that only goes over well if he is a young, cocky loudmouth.  Otherwise he comes accross as just an arrogant ass.  No question that he is more mature than Molly, but molly is less mature than her years in many ways.  By contrast Carlos is the youngest warden to ever be named Regional Commander.  They are on opposite ends of the maturity spectrum to be sure, but are supposed to be part of the same general Generation.  If you age him up to Harry's age, you distance them too much, and loose the mechanism for a lot of the Warden interplay.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on March 26, 2013, 12:21:04 AM
Carlos isnt exactly a picture of maturity and ages wisdom here.  I mean, he knows when to get serious and put his game face on, but the rest of the time he is a cocky loudmouth, and that only goes over well if he is a young, cocky loudmouth.  Otherwise he comes accross as just an arrogant ass.
Couldn't much the same be said of Harry; if you replace "cocky" with "sarcastic"?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 26, 2013, 05:22:37 PM
Couldn't much the same be said of Harry; if you replace "cocky" with "sarcastic"?
Probably depends on the person, but I find that no matter how sarcastic a person is, that is very rarely as obnoxious as a person who is constantly going on and on and on about how great they are at every little thing.  Like Carlos does.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on March 26, 2013, 05:27:22 PM
What would you guys think of Michael Weatherly as Harry?

He's filled out a bit in the last few years, but he's snarky with that edge of seriousness to him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 26, 2013, 05:29:11 PM
What would you guys think of Michael Weatherly as Harry?

He's filled out a bit in the last few years, but he's snarky with that edge of seriousness to him.
If he could get back to the lank guy he was I could see it.  He can certainly do the snark well enough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on March 28, 2013, 01:11:09 PM
Hey everyone! First time poster, long time reader. I just created an account because this ia subject which ive been thinking about alot for the past few days and wanted to share my thoughts on a couple key characters.

Harry Dresden
This is a tough one. I don't think any of the choices have quite nailed it yet. Harry Dresden is a powerful wizard and one durable guy, but "cool" and "badass" are words that you can't really use to describe him; or at the very least words that he would never use to describe himself. In terms of his personality, he's a self-described geek who makes sarcastic jokes to himself, has bad luck with woman, and is often down on his luck. While he has mentioned that people have described him as attractive, he doesn't really seem to believe it himself, and lacks the confidence to really buy into that fact or the fact that he actually is a pretty cool guy. Overall he is a guy that never really seemed to grow out of his "awkward teenager" phase.
For this reason I think he should be played by someone with boyish and lean good looks, giving him a somewhat innocent feel while still being attractive and the appropriate age. People like Jared Padalecki and Sam Worthington just seem wrong to me as they project too much confidence.

My choice: Lucas Bryant (Haven)


Karrin Murphy
This one came to me pretty quickly. Karrin is an attractive; tough-as-nails cop whose outer maturity and badassery covers up the fact that she is actually dealt with alot of crap in her life. She definatly needs to be more grown up than Harry personality wise, as it makes it easier to see how she could mistrust him early in their relationship. I get the feeling that the reason Harry never seemed to even consider a relationship with her early in the series was because he saw her as too grown up for him. He initially knew her only as a cop, in time a woman/friend, and finally a peer. To keep this authority figure dynamic it is important that they cast someone of the appropriate age (early 30s). Actually I thought Valerie Cruz did a great job and was very close to the book character, but for the sake of keeping her looks more in line with the book series and the obvious nerd cred, I picked someone different.

My Choice: Sarah Michelle Gellar (Buffy The Vampire Slayer)

My Full Cast List:
http://www.imdb.com/list/B0TTWKLfl48/?publish=save
Nailed it. I've been looking for a good Harry for years. You, sir, have nailed it. At least as far as looks go (I haven't seen Lucas Bryant act). And he is even tall (6'2")
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 28, 2013, 02:18:24 PM
Nailed it. I've been looking for a good Harry for years. You, sir, have nailed it. At least as far as looks go (I haven't seen Lucas Bryant act). And he is even tall (6'2")
I've mentioned Bryant several times because of his looks.  He has that mid-western look, with the tight jaw, lean build, and requisite height for Harry.

But I feel like, and this is nit-picking, his eyes are too watery.  I know, it sounds lame, but on Haven, I always feel like he's soft around the eyes.  He doesn't have a hard, stern look.  He's also very soft-spoken and quiet, which isn't how I see Harry.  I haven't seen him in anything else, so I don't know how much of it is him or acting.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 28, 2013, 02:57:14 PM
I've mentioned Bryant several times because of his looks.  He has that mid-western look, with the tight jaw, lean build, and requisite height for Harry.

But I feel like, and this is nit-picking, his eyes are too watery.  I know, it sounds lame, but on Haven, I always feel like he's soft around the eyes.  He doesn't have a hard, stern look.  He's also very soft-spoken and quiet, which isn't how I see Harry.  I haven't seen him in anything else, so I don't know how much of it is him or acting.
To be fair, that can be a product of the lighting choices as much or more than the actor himself.  Have you seen him in anything else?  Does he give the same impression?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on March 28, 2013, 03:23:42 PM
Regarding Lucas Bryant - I could see it, but he seems to broody to me.  In the early books Harry wasn't nearly as broody as he is now.  Granted that has a lot to do with what's happened in his life, but to start off with a broody guy might turn folks off.

Hey, how about Dean Norris as Eb.  Just need to age him a bit, but make-up can do that easily enough.  If not Dean, I'd love to see Bruce Willis as Eb.  That would be a hoot.

I've been listening to the books recently and based on James Marsters rendition of Molly I thik Emily Kinney as Molly would be convincing.

Anthonly Head as Langtry would be a good fit.

And what about Joe Flanigan (Stargate: Atlantis) as Harry?  A bit snarky, pulls off serious well, has the looks.  He's 6 foot 2 inches, but that can be fixed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on March 28, 2013, 03:44:53 PM
Regarding Lucas Bryant - I could see it, but he seems to broody to me.  In the early books Harry wasn't nearly as broody as he is now.  Granted that has a lot to do with what's happened in his life, but to start off with a broody guy might turn folks off.
I dont know, harry got pretty broody fairly early on.  I dont see it as a problem
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Hey, how about Dean Norris as Eb.  Just need to age him a bit, but make-up can do that easily enough.  If not Dean, I'd love to see Bruce Willis as Eb.  That would be a hoot.
Actually, I think either of those would work great for Mac, so long as they dont look any older than they are now. 
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I've been listening to the books recently and based on James Marsters rendition of Molly I thik Emily Kinney as Molly would be convincing.

Anthonly Head as Langtry would be a good fit.
you really want this guy as the leader of the White Council of Wizards?   :P
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on March 28, 2013, 08:21:45 PM
To be fair, that can be a product of the lighting choices as much or more than the actor himself.  Have you seen him in anything else?  Does he give the same impression?
This.

Its very true that Nathan Warnos and Harry Dresden are very different characters, and il admit that I picked Lucas mostly because he has that very specific look (mature yet boyish, kind eyes, handsome in an understated way, slight hint of insecurity) and his demeanor. But I'm gonna hold off on saying he's completely wrong for the role until I see him in something else.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 29, 2013, 12:10:39 AM
This.

Its very true that Nathan Warnos and Harry Dresden are very different characters, and il admit that I picked Lucas mostly because he has that very specific look (mature yet boyish, kind eyes, handsome in an understated way, slight hint of insecurity) and his demeanor. But I'm gonna hold off on saying he's completely wrong for the role until I see him in something else.
I agree about the general look for Bryant and Dresden.  I made this ages ago because he seemed to fit.  But I'd have to see him do something else, and the only other things he's done are one-or-two episode guest spots on different shows. 

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Harry_Lucas-Bryant_zpsf942c4aa.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on March 29, 2013, 12:32:09 AM
I agree about the general look for Bryant and Dresden.  I made this ages ago because he seemed to fit.  But I'd have to see him do something else, and the only other things he's done are one-or-two episode guest spots on different shows. 

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Harry_Lucas-Bryant_zpsf942c4aa.jpg)

Haha, dude that is awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on March 29, 2013, 11:20:00 PM
you really want this guy as the leader of the White Council of Wizards?   :P
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I'll see that and raise you one

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As for Eb, I like Robert Duvall.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on March 30, 2013, 12:00:34 AM
I'll see that and raise you one

(http://mt-blogs-redesign.syfy.com/scifiwire/assets_c/2009/06/Merlin_Head2_Uther-thumb-350x344-18798.jpg)


As for Eb, I like Robert Duvall.
I'm leaning toward Jim Beaver for Eb.  He plays Bobby Singer on Supernatural.  He's got a talent for aw-shucks accent, he's got the build, and he can do both happy, chagrined,  and pissed very well.  Those seem to be the core Eb emotions.
(http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/supernatural-jim-beaver.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on March 30, 2013, 02:53:00 AM
Wow, thats actually perfect. I can't believe I never thought of Jim for Eb.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: phoenixjustice on April 01, 2013, 07:20:32 PM
I'm leaning toward Jim Beaver for Eb.  He plays Bobby Singer on Supernatural.  He's got a talent for aw-shucks accent, he's got the build, and he can do both happy, chagrined,  and pissed very well.  Those seem to be the core Eb emotions.
(http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/supernatural-jim-beaver.jpg)

Oh my god yes. I can't believe I've never thought of that but that fits so freaking well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 02, 2013, 04:32:09 PM
The only challenge would be preventing him from turning into Bobby Singer. Because that would be a very real possibility given the actor and similarity of the two characters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 02, 2013, 05:56:45 PM
Agreed.  Honestly that's why Im against people like Sarah Michell Geller and several others from shows that are just too similar, there will inevitably be bleed-though in the minds of we fans. 

Frankly Id be most happy with an unknown of the right build, simply because I want to have fresh impressions.  At least for Harry and Murphy
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 02, 2013, 08:03:25 PM
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 02, 2013, 08:17:40 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YZ5bJc81D2s/T8zKQlhcffI/AAAAAAAAKfo/t6ZoExCMBIQ/s640/llama+5.jpg)
huh?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 02, 2013, 11:30:43 PM
Agreed.  Honestly that's why Im against people like Sarah Michell Geller and several others from shows that are just too similar, there will inevitably be bleed-though in the minds of we fans. 

Frankly Id be most happy with an unknown of the right build, simply because I want to have fresh impressions.  At least for Harry and Murphy

True, but good unknowns are hard to find.

Atleast for example if you were to cast SMG as Murphy, the characters are dissimilar enough for viewers to separate the two. Especially given that its been more than 10 years since Buffy. But in Jim Beaver's case, Ebenezer McCoy and Bobby Singer would be more or less the same person. 

Its an absolutely perfect casting choice; but thats the problem. Its so perfect that someone has already done it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: adreamydragon on April 03, 2013, 06:57:06 AM
I think Billy Burke would be a great Dresden, I see it every time I watch Revolution... (sorry if that's a repeat, not sure that someone hasn't already mentioned him...)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 03, 2013, 12:54:20 PM
I could see that.  Not really how I picture him in my head, but he's got the look. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 03, 2013, 06:59:32 PM
I've started to watch the last season (I think) of Eureka and am wracking my brains for parts in our little play for the two women who play Allison and Jo.  I was thinking I'd like to see Jo in the part of Susan.  Problem is that she isn't hispanic, but she is italian.  Also she's only 5' 5".

(http://www.treksinscifi.com/babedaily/babes/2008-07-29-Erica_Cerra.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 03, 2013, 07:58:03 PM
I've started to watch the last season (I think) of Eureka and am wracking my brains for parts in our little play for the two women who play Allison and Jo.  I was thinking I'd like to see Jo in the part of Susan.  Problem is that she isn't hispanic, but she is italian.  Also she's only 5' 5".

(http://www.treksinscifi.com/babedaily/babes/2008-07-29-Erica_Cerra.jpg)

I think she's JB's dream-choice for Susan too. 

When I picture Susan in my head, she's more like Jordana Brewster, who was born in Brazil to a Brazilian model and an American investor.  I imagine Susan as part latino and part white.  Maybe its just the way she was written by JB, but she doesn't come across as pure hispanic to me.  (Sorry if that's offensive to anyone)
(http://static.cinemagia.ro/img/resize/db/actor/00/25/62/jordana-brewster-191193l-poza.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 03, 2013, 09:56:27 PM
Susan for me is Rosario Dawson.  Especially after she goes super-chick
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 03, 2013, 10:03:14 PM
I could live with that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 04, 2013, 02:43:19 AM
huh?

(http://carrieonwards.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/dsc0140.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 04, 2013, 02:57:45 AM
Fantazero - why are you posting pics of llamas in the perfect casting thread??
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 04, 2013, 04:45:35 AM
Quote

When I picture Susan in my head, she's more like Jordana Brewster, who was born in Brazil to a Brazilian model and an American investor.  I imagine Susan as part latino and part white.  Maybe its just the way she was written by JB, but she doesn't come across as pure hispanic to me.  (Sorry if that's offensive to anyone)
(http://static.cinemagia.ro/img/resize/db/actor/00/25/62/jordana-brewster-191193l-poza.jpg)

Yea, ive never pictured her as pure hispanic either.

Actually Jordana Brewster is a pretty good choice. I could get behind that.

Overall, I've always seen Susan as someone that is very beautiful but in a "smart, girl next door" type of way. Basically the type of girl that every guy dreams of. Attractive but not glamorous or a knockout.

She is someone that is constantly driven by her own curiosity, driving her to seek out the more interesting and exotic. She gets bored easily with normality, making the paranormal a fascinating subject for her. It also explains why she is so persistent with dating Harry, even though he would normally see a girl like that as out of his league. In her eyes, he is much more interesting than all the attention she receives from normal and boring guys.

By making her a caring girl-next-door type it makes it all the more tragic when she is turned, and leads to Harry blaming himself.


Ive always had a very specific idea of how this character should be portrayed as she always reminds me of this girl I knew in college whose description was very close to that of the books. Much like Susan, she was also way out-of-my-league yet romantically pursued me, and to this day I have no idea why.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 04, 2013, 04:51:59 AM
I really don't understand how you can tell if she is Latino or not for the way she is written. I also always imagined her as gorgeous, not the "smart girl next door". Maybe is because I imagine her as a beauty with no brains.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 04, 2013, 05:02:06 AM
Probably my own personal bias of knowing someone that reminded me of the character.

Also I think part of it is the stereotype of Latin women being portrayed in the media as "feisty" or "voluptuous" and ive just never seen those qualities in Susan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: thelordbeans on April 04, 2013, 05:06:39 AM
My (constantly changing) list, in order of cast choices I feel most strongly about to least (and I'm trying to imagine a cast that could actually be afforded, so being less well-known is actually a plus):

Lasciel / Lash - Tricia Helfer (http://"http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1065454/")

Anyone who's seen Battlestar Galactica knows Tricia Helfer as the amazing actress who played the cylon Six, whose many varied versions ranged from devious seductress to timid victim, from cruel and imposing to frightened but hopeful. After rereading one of the novels with Lash for the first time after watching BSG, I imagined every line spoken by Tricia Helfer, and it sounded perfect. I know without a doubt that she could pull off the deadly temptation of a fallen angel, whose temptation may not always seem so... unkind.

Johnny Marcone - Jim Caviezel http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001029/

Cold, hard, but handsome; driven to criminal extremes by a tragic past; ruthless, unrestrained, and dangerous to betray. The Count of Monte Cristo, or the gentleman Johnny Marcone. A criminal scumbag with a steely smile that will make Harry look awkward and juvenile in comparison, because, honestly, there's few men cooler or cuter than Jim Caviezel.

Anastasia Luccio (post swap) - Vera Farmiga http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0267812/?ref_=tt_cl_t7

One of my favorite actresses for her performances in Departed and Up in the Air, I can easily imagine her playing the long-in-years Luccio in a more youthful, exuberant body.

Michael Carpenter - Leonard Roberts http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0731346/

I've only ever seen him in Heroes and Drumline, but for some reason I always imagined he'd be a good Michael, though I'm not sure how many readers were like me and imagined the Carpenter family as African-American (Molly's blonde hair was from dye).

Nicodemus - Christian Bale http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000288/

The biggest name actor on the list, the most expensive, the most exorbitant... and completely worth it, when you're looking at a character who might be the most evil.

Bob - Peter Dinklage http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0227759/

Did I say the biggest name actor on the list was Christian Bale? Scratch that. PETER DINKLAGE!

Karen Murphy - Julia Stiles http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005466/
Billy or Butters or, I don't know, somebody - Ben Whishaw http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0924210/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 04, 2013, 12:22:33 PM
I really don't understand how you can tell if she is Latino or not for the way she is written. I also always imagined her as gorgeous, not the "smart girl next door". Maybe is because I imagine her as a beauty with no brains.
I think the "Rodriquez" is what most people are cuing off of for that assumption.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 04, 2013, 12:37:40 PM
I understand the idea that "Rodriguez"= Latino, but not how writing can say "not completely Latino". Perhaps is for the "Susan".
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 04, 2013, 02:02:45 PM
How about Taylor Momsen for Molly?  She has the goth thing and is realtively tall at 5'8".
(http://images.totalbeauty.com/content/brafton/large/Beauty_News_Taylor_Momsen.jpg)
(http://cdn3.gossipcenter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_header/photos/taylor-momsen-fuse-red.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 04, 2013, 04:36:55 PM
I understand the idea that "Rodriguez"= Latino, but not how writing can say "not completely Latino". Perhaps is for the "Susan".

Actually I got the Latino from the "Rodriguez".  And how she was written is from her Mid-West upbrining.  Latino does not mean Cheech Marin, it means of hispanic descent, to me.  How one looks and how one acts (or are written) are completely different (or can be).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 04, 2013, 07:09:01 PM
Fantazero - why are you posting pics of llamas in the perfect casting thread??

What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 04, 2013, 07:20:25 PM
What are you talking about?

here
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YZ5bJc81D2s/T8zKQlhcffI/AAAAAAAAKfo/t6ZoExCMBIQ/s640/llama+5.jpg)
and then again here
(http://carrieonwards.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/dsc0140.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 04, 2013, 07:37:18 PM
hereand then again here
I think you're mistaken
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 04, 2013, 08:52:14 PM
I think you're mistaken

Those aren't the llamas he's looking for.
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Llama_Kenobi_zps011871fd.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on April 04, 2013, 10:19:33 PM
Funny vid.  Not related to llamas, but just funny.  It star's a German Shepherd Dog in a suit.  You might want to turn the sound down because the guy laughs just a little too much.   ;)

http://www.wimp.com/germanshepherd/
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 05, 2013, 12:04:00 AM
Rasins, I don't know what a cheech Marin is. I meant that I understand the Latino part (Rodriguez= hispanic origin (I dont want to begin talking why I don't really like this usage of the word, is the current one, so it is what it is) but I don't think Latinos (or any other etnia) has a way of behave which is different than the others. That is why I didn't understand the "how is written" part, as I don't think you can tell any etnia for the behavior of a character.
Instead, I think the "half Latino" can come for the Susan part. She is not Susana, but Susan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 05, 2013, 07:50:43 PM
My picture of Susan is along the lines of Penelope Cruz.

(http://image.funscrape.com/images/p/penelope_cruz-2512.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on April 06, 2013, 12:31:34 PM
My picture of Susan is along the lines of Penelope Cruz.

(http://image.funscrape.com/images/p/penelope_cruz-2512.jpg)

Harry Dresden and I WISH she'd play Susan.  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on April 06, 2013, 12:46:54 PM
Rasins, I don't know what a cheech Marin is. I meant that I understand the Latino part (Rodriguez= hispanic origin (I dont want to begin talking why I don't really like this usage of the word, is the current one, so it is what it is) but I don't think Latinos (or any other etnia) has a way of behave which is different than the others. That is why I didn't understand the "how is written" part, as I don't think you can tell any etnia for the behavior of a character.
Instead, I think the "half Latino" can come for the Susan part. She is not Susana, but Susan.

These days, a name means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, first name (given name), middle name (given name) or last name (surname/family name), but especially first and middle names.  There are many examples where even the last name bears absolutely no resemblance to the person's heritage.  However, given names sometimes arise out of the whim or craziness of the parents (e.g. Moon Unit).  Rules are out the window.  Susan's parents could have just picked Susan because they liked that form of the name, or Susan could have changed it herself, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 06, 2013, 06:09:22 PM
Yes, there are many exceptions, but I can understand how a name gives an "idea" of a person. When I've heard someone called "Paolo Ortega" I didn't think in a Sweden. Or Hiro doesn't make me think in a Native American.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: chadthebad on April 06, 2013, 07:28:06 PM
I've always heard/pictured Harry as Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs. I think it is the parallels between Harry getting the crap beat out of him each book, and Mike getting stuck doing the crappiest jobs every episode.
Oh and Tilda Swinton as Lash.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 06, 2013, 08:05:13 PM
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/164/5/1/i_am_a_unicorn_not_a_llama_id_by_kawii_mango.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on April 06, 2013, 11:37:25 PM
Yes, there are many exceptions, but I can understand how a name gives an "idea" of a person. When I've heard someone called "Paolo Ortega" I didn't think in a Sweden. Or Hiro doesn't make me think in a Native American.

There are many GLARING exceptions.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 06, 2013, 11:38:11 PM
(http://media-cache-ec2.pinterest.com/192x/8f/f0/6b/8ff06bcbd2c8d4ff1c48cbb3264dee21.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on April 06, 2013, 11:41:50 PM
I've always heard/pictured Harry as Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs. I think it is the parallels between Harry getting the crap beat out of him each book, and Mike getting stuck doing the crappiest jobs every episode.
Oh and Tilda Swinton as Lash.

Those could work.  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zohak on April 07, 2013, 05:59:35 AM
April Bowlby for lara raith , susan , or Lea
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1763049/

https://www.google.com/search?q=April+Bowlby&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=gT4&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=rcs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=lwdhUdfaF8X1iQL-xoHAAw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=644
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 08, 2013, 05:45:24 PM
Oh and Tilda Swinton as Lash.
Cant see it.  Lash's chosen form was supposed to be an alluring, "girl-next-door" type.  Cute and a little vulnerable looking, very beautiful, and very feminine.  Tilda Swinton has carved out her niche between Stark, Alien Beauty and downright androgynous.  I could see her for some of the other denarians maybe, or a Winter Sidhe (thought Lion Witch and Wardrobe may be skewing my thoughts on that one).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 08, 2013, 09:15:01 PM
Cant see it.  Lash's chosen form was supposed to be an alluring, "girl-next-door" type.  Cute and a little vulnerable looking, very beautiful, and very feminine.  Tilda Swinton has carved out her niche between Stark, Alien Beauty and downright androgynous.  I could see her for some of the other denarians maybe, or a Winter Sidhe (thought Lion Witch and Wardrobe may be skewing my thoughts on that one).
Remember that there's Lash, and there's Sheila.  Lash is supposed to be Greek Goddess-type.  Sheila is the 'girl-next-door' type.  Lash appears distinctly as both in DB, and after the big reveal, we never see Sheila again. 

Tilda Swinton might work as Lash.  She's not exactly what I'd pick though.  She's got the stern look for Gard, but I'm not sure what I've really seen in her in, other than Constantine.  And in that she was very androgynous, because she was supposed to be an angel.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 08, 2013, 09:31:27 PM
I could see Tilda Swinton as Tessa.  I think she'd make a great Tessa.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 08, 2013, 09:37:34 PM
She is normally quite androginous. I don't know, I am imagining Lash much more beautiful.
She has the acting skills to do anything, thought, so she could do it. It's just that she won't be my first choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 08, 2013, 10:28:57 PM
(http://easyloungin.com/forum/topic.php?bb_attachments=464783&bbat=31170&inline)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on April 08, 2013, 10:37:03 PM
April Bowlby for lara raith , susan , or Lea
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1763049/

https://www.google.com/search?q=April+Bowlby&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=gT4&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=rcs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=lwdhUdfaF8X1iQL-xoHAAw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=644

Might have a tough time getting past her "Two and a Half Men" persona.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on April 08, 2013, 10:41:33 PM
Remember that there's Lash, and there's Sheila.  Lash is supposed to be Greek Goddess-type.  Sheila is the 'girl-next-door' type.  Lash appears distinctly as both in DB, and after the big reveal, we never see Sheila again. 

Tilda Swinton might work as Lash.  She's not exactly what I'd pick though.  She's got the stern look for Gard, but I'm not sure what I've really seen in her in, other than Constantine.  And in that she was very androgynous, because she was supposed to be an angel.

Oops, I thought you meant Tilda as Lasciel.  Lash, Sheila?  I'm several books behind (still stuck on "Turn Coat"), due to lack of time to read these days.  I'm either getting behind on my TV shows/DVDs or on books.  Can't keep up with both due to work/eat/sleep. ::)

I never pictured Lasciel as beautiful. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 08, 2013, 11:45:01 PM
Oops, I thought you meant Tilda as Lasciel.  Lash, Sheila?  I'm several books behind (still stuck on "Turn Coat"), due to lack of time to read these days.  I'm either getting behind on my TV shows/DVDs or on books.  Can't keep up with both due to work/eat/sleep. ::)

I never pictured Lasciel as beautiful.
Remember that we never actually see Lasciel.  We see the imprint taking on a form for Harry in his head.  And it can appear however she likes, so that she appeals to Harry.  And I'd say that Harry likes the appearance of both Lash and Shiela.  He makes out with one, and his subconscious makes eyes at the other.

 - Lash (DB):  She was a little taller than average and had hair that fell in a sheet of golden silk to her shoulders. She was dressed in a silken tunic belted with soft rope, both pure white. The outfit neither displayed any impropriety nor allowed anyone looking to ignore the beauty of the body it clothed. Her eyes were of a deep, deep blue, like a sunny October sky, and her skin glowed with wholesome appeal. She was, quite simply, a stunning creature.
 - Shiela (DB):  She was young, midtwenties at most. She was dressed in a long wool skirt, a turtleneck, and a cardigan sweater, all in colors of grey. She had hair of medium brown, held up into a bun with a pair of pencils, wore glasses, and had a heart-shaped face that was more attractive than beautiful, her features soft and appealing.
 - Lash (PG): Her most common form was that of a tall, athletic blonde wearing a white Greek-style tunic that fell almost to her knee.
 - Lash (PG):  She appeared at once, stepping into the circle of light. She wore her most familiar form, the functional white tunic, the tall, lovely figure, but her golden hair now appeared as a waist-length sheet of deep auburn.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 09, 2013, 01:39:35 PM
She is normally quite androginous. I don't know, I am imagining Lash much more beautiful.
She has the acting skills to do anything, thought, so she could do it. It's just that she won't be my first choice.
She definitely has the acting skill for most characters, and she has a certain stark beauty, but (to me at least) there is nothing appealing about it, it's a cold and distant beauty. 
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I think she could make a decent Mab, but I wouldnt cast her for it for the same reason that I wouldnt cast Anthony Hopkins for Odin:  It's so good that it's been done.  However, I just found this picture of her with red hair instead of the usual Bleach Blond, and I think she could make a great Lea
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Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 09, 2013, 02:47:13 PM
So when this gets to 400 Pages can we lock it? or maybe Archive it and start fresh?
Mods?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 09, 2013, 03:08:41 PM
Is its presence on the forum a problem?  Folks are constantly coming up with new suggestions.  I think they should have a place to do so.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 09, 2013, 04:38:46 PM
Mostly I just get tired of seeing this pop up in my unread posts (I'm selfish!), if we do a new thread, I'm totally not posting it.
Also it's a 4 year old thread and it feels like every flavor of the month has been mentioned. I just think 400 pages is a good number to retire at and stat a NEW casting thread.
I mean you guys lock threads in "The Bar" after a few days
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 09, 2013, 05:04:10 PM
Mostly I just get tired of seeing this pop up in my unread posts (I'm selfish!), if we do a new thread, I'm totally not posting it.
Also it's a 4 year old thread and it feels like every flavor of the month has been mentioned. I just think 400 pages is a good number to retire at and stat a NEW casting thread.
I mean you guys lock threads in "The Bar" after a few days
I figure if they close up this thread and start a new casting thread, then everyone who commented on this one will comment the same in the new one.  So that one will shoot up.

Can you delete your posts to this thread to stop the notifications?  Would that work?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 09, 2013, 06:13:25 PM
I figure if they close up this thread and start a new casting thread, then everyone who commented on this one will comment the same in the new one.  So that one will shoot up.

Can you delete your posts to this thread to stop the notifications?  Would that work?

I don't have the energy to try and go through it.

Also I just think we need a fresh thread, or even three

I purpose
Harry Dresden TV Show Casting Thread

Harry Dresden Movie Casting Thread

Harry Dresden Dead or Younger Celebrity Casting Thread
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 09, 2013, 07:05:51 PM
I think we need a thread of the Llamas who should be cast in the parts for TDF, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 09, 2013, 08:54:14 PM
I love this thread.

I see Tilda as being cast more as a Denarian.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 09, 2013, 09:52:18 PM
I think we need a thread of the Llamas who should be cast in the parts for TDF, but that's just me.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c3.0.403.403/p403x403/539353_473230056055199_592065412_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 09, 2013, 09:54:09 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c3.0.403.403/p403x403/539353_473230056055199_592065412_n.jpg)

Is that supposed to be Carlos?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 10, 2013, 03:03:04 AM
Is that supposed to be Carlos?
Now it is
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 10, 2013, 05:00:41 AM
Griffyn presents...

The Femme Faetales!

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/Queens_zps71ec5f7e.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: thelordbeans on April 10, 2013, 08:43:55 PM
Judi Dent for one of the Mothers? Funny that those are the only elderly female characters coming to mind right now outside of Martha Liberty, though I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting.

Still in love with Tricia Helfer as Lasciel/Lash.

Also, I feel like Noomi Rapace would be good for somebody...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 10, 2013, 08:57:55 PM
Judi Dent for one of the Mothers? Funny that those are the only elderly female characters coming to mind right now outside of Martha Liberty, though I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting.
Martha Liberty, Ancient Mai, and Ms. Spunkerchief (sp?) are the aged that I can recall.  Everyone else is ancient, but doesn't look it.

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Still in love with Tricia Helfer as Lasciel/Lash.
Meh, maybe.  I've thought of her as Mab for so long that I can't picture anyone else.

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Also, I feel like Noomi Rapace would be good for somebody...
Yeah, Sandra Marling Mavra.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 10, 2013, 09:15:31 PM
How about Betty White as Mrs. Spunklechief, or maybe Mother Summer?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 10, 2013, 09:28:07 PM
Martha Liberty, Ancient Mai, and Ms. Spunkerchief (sp?) are the aged that I can recall.  Everyone else is ancient, but doesn't look it.
Meh, maybe.  I've thought of her as Mab for so long that I can't picture anyone else.
Yeah, Sandra Marling Mavra.
How old is Mama Murphy?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 10, 2013, 09:30:30 PM
How about Betty White as Mrs. Spunklechief, or maybe Mother Summer?
Mrs. Spunkelcrief, yes.  Mother Summer?  No. 

I've previously thought of Nichelle Nichols for Mrs. Spunkelcrief.
(http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/nichelle-nichols_268x210.jpg)

How old is Mama Murphy?
Probably in her 60's by now.  She's probably younger than most of the others.  But we've only seen her once.  We've seen Liberty and Mai a few times with the Souncil, and Spunkelcrief is only seen in Changes, iirc. 

And there's the original Luccio too.  She probably appeared in her 60's too.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 10, 2013, 10:09:40 PM
Mrs. Spunkelcrief, yes.  Mother Summer?  No. 

I've previously thought of Nichelle Nichols for Mrs. Spunkelcrief.
(http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/nichelle-nichols_268x210.jpg)
Probably in her 60's by now.  She's probably younger than most of the others.  But we've only seen her once.  We've seen Liberty and Mai a few times with the Souncil, and Spunkelcrief is only seen in Changes, iirc. 
Nichols has the look, but Mrs Spunklecrief's defining traits were that she was old and feeble, and comically small.  She could look a sitting Mouse in the eye, and only got halfway around Sanya when hugging him.  I picture somebody more on the scale of Linda Hunt, whereas Nochols I think could make a great Martha Liberty
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm774473984/nm0001373)
 

For old Luccio, Ive been leaning towards Jane Lynch, but Im concerned that she will never be able to pull off a serious role, in the same way that the Janitor from scrubs cant.  I remember when he showed up in Indiana Jones as a serious character (a spook)and everyone in the theater started cracking up at every word.  That is the danger of playing a straight-faced comic relief character; regardless of your acting ability, the audience is conditioned to take it as a joke. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 10, 2013, 11:03:52 PM
Nichols has the look, but Mrs Spunklecrief's defining traits were that she was old and feeble, and comically small.  She could look a sitting Mouse in the eye, and only got halfway around Sanya when hugging him.  I picture somebody more on the scale of Linda Hunt, whereas Nochols I think could make a great Martha Liberty
(http://www.imdb.com/media/rm774473984/nm0001373)
 

For old Luccio, Ive been leaning towards Jane Lynch, but Im concerned that she will never be able to pull off a serious role, in the same way that the Janitor from scrubs cant.  I remember when he showed up in Indiana Jones as a serious character (a spook)and everyone in the theater started cracking up at every word.  That is the danger of playing a straight-faced comic relief character; regardless of your acting ability, the audience is conditioned to take it as a joke.
Tell me about it.  I've got this idea stuck in my head that Ryan Reynolds should be a good Kincaid, but I'm not sure he'd be able to pull off a serious badass.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 10, 2013, 11:17:41 PM
Tell me about it.  I've got this idea stuck in my head that Ryan Reynolds should be a good Kincaid, but I'm not sure he'd be able to pull off a serious badass.
As Deadpool in the Wolverine Movie
(http://whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/deadpool_wolverine.jpg)
In Blade 3
(http://cdn-media.hollywood.com/images/l/reynolds_blade3.jpg)
In "Safe House"
(http://geektyrant.com/storage/0999-post-images/safehouse9520122.jpeg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1346897152723)

I think he could do it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 11, 2013, 02:13:23 AM
Actually for some reason ive always seen Kincaid as a slightly comedic character.

Don't get me wrong, he's definatly a badass and great at what he does, but i've always seen him as just a hair over the top and cheesy.

Thats why ive always pictured him as Adam Baldwin.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 11, 2013, 02:54:05 AM
Jane Lynch has played serious in the movies.
She was Meryl Streep's sister in Julia, Julie.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 11, 2013, 05:35:00 AM
Somebody remind me to find a part for Gianna Patton.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on April 11, 2013, 08:14:20 AM
Thats why ive always pictured him as Adam Baldwin.
Second this... Never really thought about it but he fits closest to how I envision Kincaid.

Judi Dent for one of the Mothers? Funny that those are the only elderly female characters coming to mind right now outside of Martha Liberty, though I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting.

I would say Judi Dench for the original Luccio, before the body-swap...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Kali on April 11, 2013, 12:10:36 PM
>.>

<.<

IAN SOMERHALDER FOR THOMAS!
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/309256_265439843567882_934569330_n.jpg)

(http://images.mstarz.com/data/images/full/7923/somerhalder.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 11, 2013, 02:09:26 PM
He does have the Thomas face.  Perhaps we need further investigation on him though.  Any pictures of him, say, without a shirt on?  You know, just for comparision reasons?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 11, 2013, 02:10:39 PM
Somebody remind me to find a part for Gianna Patton.

To me, she is Gard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 11, 2013, 03:11:50 PM
To me, she is Gard.
Too late, I decided she's my Lash.

I do need some help with the following.  Everyone please give me some ideas.  We've bounced around on a few of these, but they're not 'locked' in my head.

Ron Carmichael
Rudolph
Father Forthill
Deirdre
Tessa
Langtry
Peabody
LoFortier
Listens 2 Winds
Liberty
Mai
Cristos
Old Luccio
New Luccio
Steed
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 11, 2013, 11:25:16 PM
Mai: Michelle Yeoh.
Liberty: Nichelle Nichols is gold!
Steed: The one from Suits, the older one.
Listens to wins: Graham Greene.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 12, 2013, 12:22:30 AM
Mai: Michelle Yeoh.
Liberty: Nichelle Nichols is gold!
Steed: The one from Suits, the older one.
Listens to wins: Graham Greene.
Mai: I looked at Michelle Yeoh for Mai, but she's just so young.  She's only 49, and I picture Mai as Ancient.  They'd have to do a lot of make-up for her.  Still, she's probably the best choice, and I'll use her.
Liberty: I think Liberty was described as tall and skinny, which Nichols is not.  I'd love to work her in somewhere, but maybe not for Liberty.  I see her as more of a Spunkelcrief guest/cameo appearance.
Steed: I think Steed is supposed to be younger than Harry.  I could see the guy that plays Harvey doing that cocky attitude Steed has, but he's not quite right to me.
L2W: Again, I don't think he fits the body type or description of L2W.  They're all lanky types, like Harry.  That makes it hard, even if we discount all of their towering heights.

Thanks for the contributions!  I'm working on a little project, and I need all the help I can get.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 12, 2013, 01:21:18 AM

IAN SOMERHALDER FOR THOMAS!

(http://images.mstarz.com/data/images/full/7923/somerhalder.jpg)

Seconded.

I know that most people have pretty much settled on Matt Bomer for Thomas, but Matt has always seemed a bit too "nice" to me.

Ian can still play a nice guy for the scenes with Harry, but has a noticeable edge to him that would be perfect for Thomas.

Plus he bears a slight resemblance to Lucas Bryant, who is my choice for Harry.

I do need some help with the following.  Everyone please give me some ideas.  We've bounced around on a few of these, but they're not 'locked' in my head.

Langtry
Old Luccio
New Luccio

Langtry: Gotta be Terrence Stamp. This is one of the few casting choices I am 100% certain on.

Old Luccio: Maggie Smith

Young Luccio: Alona Tal. Can play a wide range of ages and maturity levels, has that young but ageless look.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 12, 2013, 03:04:02 AM
400 pages of this
(https://static.prtst.net/asset-proxy/7f24ac5e0bd93eff90be5647d12699d2b23bafdc/687474703a2f2f696d673235312e696d616765736861636b2e75732f696d673235312f333633322f6c6c616d612e6a7067/http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3632/llama.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 12, 2013, 03:24:30 AM
OK honestly I have to ask. What the hell is with the llama thing? Am I missing some kind of forum in-joke? Cause right now it just seems like trolling.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 12, 2013, 04:25:51 AM
OK honestly I have to ask. What the hell is with the llama thing? Am I missing some kind of forum in-joke? Cause right now it just seems like trolling.

It's just 400 pages of people posting photos for a Dresden movie/show that will never be.
Instead of closing the thread, they've let it run for way too long. I posted on it back a few years ago and every day It shows up in my unread posts.

I figure posting photos of llama's is just as useful as posting photos of random Celebrities who I think should play Mouse.

This is the thread to post pictures of who you think should play whom.  So, if that annoys you?  Don't read here.  If you keep getting notifications and that annoys you?  Sorry that is just the way the board works.

Or as the rules state: 

--Acknowledge other people, assume good will, be quick to praise and slow to criticize, add knowledge, offer help, be slow to anger, apologize when wrong, politely ask for clarification, and exercise patience when your temper flares. ~Blaze as Mod
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 12, 2013, 04:53:36 AM
Ok, so you are trolling then.

Honestly if you don't like the thread, stay out. There is obviously a reason why this thread has gone on so long. Because everyone else is enjoying it. No reason to ruin everyone else's good time just because you find the discussion pointless.

Seriously, if you aren't going to contribute then just leave. Im sure that there are plenty of other threads on this board that you would actually enjoy.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 12, 2013, 12:49:50 PM
Ok, so you are trolling then.

Honestly if you don't like the thread, stay out. There is obviously a reason why this thread has gone on so long. Because everyone else is enjoying it. No reason to ruin everyone else's good time just because you find the discussion pointless.

Seriously, if you aren't going to contribute then just leave. Im sure that there are plenty of other threads on this board that you would actually enjoy.

PS: Who the hell are you to say that there will never be another Dresden files adaptation?

I'm the god damn llama batman
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/116/6/3/Batman_Llama_by_irl23.png)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 12, 2013, 12:55:43 PM
ALSO does no one see this is called Perfect casting Part 2?
i'm just saying, make a Perfect casting part 3 already.
What happened to part 1?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Shecky on April 12, 2013, 01:27:34 PM
You two want a bucket of freezing water? CHILL ALREADY.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ManInBlack on April 12, 2013, 01:36:15 PM
Mister

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r133/ManInBlack99/hFD330BB0.gif) (http://s143.photobucket.com/user/ManInBlack99/media/hFD330BB0.gif.html)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 12, 2013, 04:02:53 PM
For Guard, I think two good choices would be Natasha Henstridge:
(http://www.crankycritic.com/qa/pf_articles/natasha.jpg)
Or Tricia Helfer
(http://images.askmen.com/photos/tricia-helfer/85953.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 12, 2013, 04:23:24 PM
I don't know why I didn't think of him before for Nicodemus ...
(http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/Mads%20Mikkelsen%20pic4.jpg)

Oh, and I give you Charity and Molly.
(http://tri.acimg.net/r_640_600/b_1_d6d6d6/medias/nmedia/18/96/50/19/20471567.jpg)
And I threw Harry in there too.

Oh, and here is Mouse.
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120501155828/ideas/images/8/83/Super_Albino_LLama.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 12, 2013, 09:28:42 PM
Well, I don't like the trolling, but actually, a part 3 could be a good idea. I understand that the forum prefers smaller threads. The part 1 is linked in the first post of this thread. We could do a part 3 with a first post with links to 1 and 2.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on April 14, 2013, 07:01:45 PM
Second this... Never really thought about it but he fits closest to how I envision Kincaid.

I always pictured Kincaid as a taller, younger, thinner John Schuck (Babylon 5's "Draal" in "The Long Twilight Struggle" and "Voices of Authority").  There is an actor, 35-40 years old, who fits that description, but damned if I can remember his name or what I saw him in.  It'll come to me.



I would say Judi Dench for the original Luccio, before the body-swap...

Nooooo, Luccio needs to be Italian, ~ 5'5" or a little less and petite.  She has to not look like what she's capable of doing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on April 14, 2013, 07:03:24 PM
He does have the Thomas face.  Perhaps we need further investigation on him though.  Any pictures of him, say, without a shirt on?  You know, just for comparision reasons?

He's got the eyes, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on April 14, 2013, 07:08:39 PM
Ok, so you are trolling then.

Honestly if you don't like the thread, stay out. There is obviously a reason why this thread has gone on so long. Because everyone else is enjoying it. No reason to ruin everyone else's good time just because you find the discussion pointless.

Seriously, if you aren't going to contribute then just leave. Im sure that there are plenty of other threads on this board that you would actually enjoy.

He's being Pugnacious.  Hell, he's even dressed in a military getup.  What'd ya expect?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 14, 2013, 07:30:33 PM
I always pictured Kincaid as a taller, younger, thinner John Schuck (Babylon 5's "Draal" in "The Long Twilight Struggle" and "Voices of Authority").  There is an actor, 35-40 years old, who fits that description, but damned if I can remember his name or what I saw him in.  It'll come to me.
I don't know about the blond part, but I think that there are some partial facial similarties between a young John Schuck and both Ray Stevenson (48) and Kevin Durand (39).  Neither quite have Schuck's chin, but then again, who does?   
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BODc0NjY3NTc1MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTA0NjUwOA@@._V1._SY314_CR2,0,214,314_.jpg)  (http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/r/ray-stevenson-added-to-book-of-eli-205-80.jpg)   (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080302040143/lostpedia/images/4/41/KevinDurand.jpg)

But Kincaid is supposed to be a blonde.  And to be honest, I've always pictured him as more wiry, with a bad boy image.  All of the above are more bulk muscle than lean muscle.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on April 15, 2013, 05:23:45 AM
This is the only person I can now picture as Kincaid

(http://images.tvrage.com/news/game-of-thrones-bronn-talks-season-3-bromance.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zohak on April 15, 2013, 05:40:07 AM
Kincaid
Dustin Clare  from Spartacus
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1967109/?ref_=tt_cl_t10

Ellen Hollman for Murphy
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1712005/?ref_=tt_cl_t13

Simon Merrells  for Nic
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0581163/?ref_=tt_cl_t7
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 15, 2013, 02:32:11 PM
(http://www.gq.com/images/entertainment/2012/03/gq-mad-men/mad-men-opener.jpg)

And Done
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 15, 2013, 11:41:48 PM
Ok, who is supposed to be playing who?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 15, 2013, 11:59:33 PM
Ok, who is supposed to be playing who?
isnt it obvious?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: TheCuriousFan on April 16, 2013, 12:02:23 AM
isnt it obvious?

No, not really.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 16, 2013, 02:17:59 AM
No, not really.

look closer
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21gi8pS%2BVNL._SL500_SS500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 16, 2013, 02:24:40 AM
I can't understand the image of Christina, it looks like part of her body disappeared.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 17, 2013, 03:54:24 PM
Figured it was just another attempt by you to ruin a thread the rest of us are enjoying. Post reported.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mickey Finn on April 17, 2013, 04:00:18 PM
I will say that if it was, it was only successful because people are making it so.

We're having a tough time seeing how that was trolling, folks. FZ, please explain what you think is obvious. And if you really don't have anything meaningful to add, there's plenty of other threads out there where you do.
(Please note that IMHO, being silly IS meaningful. Trolling isn't, of course, nor is poking the anthill. But if FZ is just being silly, that's not trolling. And that comment is not directly solely at you Shadow, that's a general reminder to the board in general.)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 17, 2013, 05:56:45 PM
Mickey, you didn't read the last pages, right? He thinks that we should lock this thread (which I don't think is a bad idea, and so I posted) so it stops appearing in her "show new replies to your posts". He tried to "convince" to do that by posting silly llamas. Both Priscellie and Blaze had intervened.

My post was a legit one, taking him seriously, I can't understand the picture of Cristina, as it seems some of her body is missing.
I think Hamm could do an acceptable Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 17, 2013, 06:14:01 PM
(http://www.gq.com/images/entertainment/2012/03/gq-mad-men/mad-men-opener.jpg)

And Done


you guys need to relax

Left to Right
Marcone
Bob
Fae Princess (Summer and Winter)
Merlin
Butters
Harry
Molly
Murphy

Also
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aDPnehE7sS8/TqpYnKU6USI/AAAAAAAACSA/TTDcEPgZ278/s320/Funny%2BLlama%2Bwallpaper2.jpg)
Feel free to report how awesome llamas are



Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mickey Finn on April 17, 2013, 07:48:53 PM


My post was a legit one, taking him seriously, I can't understand the picture of Cristina, as it seems some of her body is missing.


Caught that, it wasn't directed at you.

FZ, stop it with the baiting. Llama or otherwise.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 17, 2013, 10:02:37 PM
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/mad-men-opener_zps4af1a9d6.jpg) (http://s1161.photobucket.com/user/wizardpi/media/Dresden_Casting/mad-men-opener_zps4af1a9d6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 17, 2013, 10:04:10 PM
I like how Marcone is checking out Lea's ass.  Something about that thought just keeps me laughing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 17, 2013, 10:32:42 PM
I like how Marcone is checking out Lea's ass.  Something about that thought just keeps me laughing.
You mean looking at where it should be.  Dina is right in noting that there's only the torso and upper body of Hendricks; the rest is couch.  Bad Photoshopping.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 17, 2013, 10:35:52 PM
I don't think it's photoshopping - I think the actress is sitting on the very edge
of the couch, at a severe angle, with her legs out to the side.  Her head and shoulders
hide her legs and lower torso.
Could be that her dress is so tight that she couldn't sit down normally so had to
recline at an angle.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 17, 2013, 10:59:37 PM
I don't think it's photoshopping - I think the actress is sitting on the very edge
of the couch, at a severe angle, with her legs out to the side.  Her head and shoulders
hide her legs and lower torso.
Could be that her dress is so tight that she couldn't sit down normally so had to
recline at an angle.

Here, be sure to click on the picture to get the full size.
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q507/wizardpi/Dresden_Casting/mad-men-opener2_zps93293220.jpg)

I'm not seeing her legs to the right, or to the left, or to the front.  That means they'd have to be going straight back behind her.  But if that were the case, she'd have to be supporting herself with her arm, but it doesn't look like she's got any weight on her right arm.   I say Photoshop.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 17, 2013, 11:07:54 PM
That is what I thought.
Also, I love your avatar.

C. Hendricks have been suggested for Lea several times. I don't like it, but I understand it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 17, 2013, 11:13:52 PM
That is what I thought.
Also, I love your avatar.

C. Hendricks have been suggested for Lea several times. I don't like it, but I understand it.
She pulls off the cooky mad and personality switches very well in Firefly, which is what I primarily know her from.  I haven't watched Mad Men or anything else she's been in.  I could see her doing the Lea laugh and anger of GP very well.  And Lea's supposed to have an ample bosom, which is described as it gets ironed in GP.  But she's also described as lithe and thin, or the like, which doesn't fit C-Hen.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 17, 2013, 11:58:19 PM
She pulls off the cooky mad and personality switches very well in Firefly, which is what I primarily know her from.  I haven't watched Mad Men or anything else she's been in.  I could see her doing the Lea laugh and anger of GP very well.  And Lea's supposed to have an ample bosom, which is described as it gets ironed in GP.  But she's also described as lithe and thin, or the like, which doesn't fit C-Hen.
I have two good reasons for liking her  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 18, 2013, 12:16:19 AM
I have two good reasons for liking her  ;)

Her beads and her martini, right?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 18, 2013, 12:31:01 AM
Stop PMing me pictures of Llamas
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 18, 2013, 01:21:12 PM
I don't like Christina for Lea.  I still think Milla Jovovich would make an outstanding Lea.

(http://media-cache-lt0.pinterest.com/192x/36/75/29/367529340e3bb7b8da319cb67e45890d.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 18, 2013, 02:22:46 PM
You mean looking at where it should be.  Dina is right in noting that there's only the torso and upper body of Hendricks; the rest is couch.  Bad Photoshopping.
I prefer to think that she is kneeling in front of the counch, so that her ass in way up in his field of view :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mickey Finn on April 19, 2013, 12:44:47 AM
I don't like Christina for Lea.  I still think Milla Jovovich would make an outstanding Lea.

(http://media-cache-lt0.pinterest.com/192x/36/75/29/367529340e3bb7b8da319cb67e45890d.jpg)

Jessica Rabbit.

So, a certain lawyer from Angel should do it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Priscellie on April 19, 2013, 06:07:48 AM
Jessica Rabbit.

So, a certain lawyer from Angel should do it.

Christian Kane for Lea?  Man, I dunno...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 19, 2013, 12:47:11 PM
Christian Kane for Lea?  Man, I dunno...
I dunno, a little hair dye and the right dress...
(http://blog.newsok.com/bamsblog/files/2008/12/christian-kane-david-mcdanie-for-blog.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 19, 2013, 02:26:52 PM
Daniel Dae Kim as Lea?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2w5jdB1lK1rt24p6o1_500.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 19, 2013, 04:00:20 PM
Daniel Dae Kim as Lea?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2w5jdB1lK1rt24p6o1_500.png)

No, I see him more of an Elaine. 

I'm thinking of Nick Cage as Lea

(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/26900000/Nicolas-Cage-nicolas-cage-26969778-2560-1956.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 19, 2013, 07:00:59 PM
Jessica Rabbit.

So, a certain lawyer from Angel should do it.

Sam Anderson as Lea?

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 19, 2013, 08:01:06 PM
As long as we all agree that George Tekai is Ancient Mai.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 19, 2013, 08:03:05 PM
That is a given, no doubts.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 19, 2013, 08:03:54 PM
As long as we all agree that George Tekai is Ancient Mai.
I can go with that.

How about Michael as Fat Bostard for Lea?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 19, 2013, 08:19:04 PM
As long as we all agree that George Tekai is Ancient Mai.

I thought this was already set in stone.  There can be no other choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 20, 2013, 12:58:53 AM
As long as we all agree that George Tekai is Ancient Mai.

"Oh Maaaaiiiii..."
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on April 20, 2013, 06:05:24 PM
I mean, there really is only one obvious choice for Lea.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NuDi_Z25cZQ/UFvvDBY8jtI/AAAAAAAAjWQ/LOCqeue6bE4/w497-h373/i-dont-always-drink-tea-funny-picture-16712.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on April 21, 2013, 12:07:47 AM
There's only a few roles I've ever really felt sure about.

Michael Carpenter - Ewan McGreggor http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000191/?ref_=sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000191/?ref_=sr_1)

Leah - Famke Janssen http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000463/?ref_=sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000463/?ref_=sr_1)
(though, I'll admit Christina Hendricks would probably also be a good choice)

Jared Kincaid - Bradley Cooper http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0177896/?ref_=sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0177896/?ref_=sr_1)

Nicodemus - Christian Bale http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000288/?ref_=sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000288/?ref_=sr_1)

John Marcone - Christopher Meloni http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005221/?ref_=tt_cl_t5 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005221/?ref_=tt_cl_t5)

Voice of Bob - Bruce Cambell or Jason Lee http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0132257/?ref_=sr_2 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0132257/?ref_=sr_2)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005134/?ref_=sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005134/?ref_=sr_1)

The Mail Carrier (at the beginning of Storm Front) - Jim Butcher http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0124688/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0124688/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1)

Other suggestions:

Harry Dresden - Lucas Bryant http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/oG4VxcSycQM/HAVEN+Cast+Celebrity+Fan+Fest+2012+Comic+Con/6LO7S4jyOjB/Lucas+Bryant (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/oG4VxcSycQM/HAVEN+Cast+Celebrity+Fan+Fest+2012+Comic+Con/6LO7S4jyOjB/Lucas+Bryant)
Karen Murphy - Amy Adams or Sarah Michelle Gellar http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010736/?ref_=sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010736/?ref_=sr_1)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001264/?ref_=sr_5 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001264/?ref_=sr_5)
Will Borden - Josh Hutcherson http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1242688/?ref_=sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1242688/?ref_=sr_1)
Donald Morgan - Liam Neeson http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000553/?ref_=sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000553/?ref_=sr_1)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on April 22, 2013, 01:55:37 AM
There's only a few roles I've ever really felt sure about.

Michael Carpenter - Ewan McGreggor http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000191/?ref_=sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000191/?ref_=sr_1)

I've always pictured Michael Carpenter as taller and more more substantial than Ewan McGreggor, more like Hugh Jackman.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on April 22, 2013, 02:33:01 AM
I've always pictured Michael Carpenter as taller and more more substantial than Ewan McGreggor, more like HUGE Jackman.

fixed that for you
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 22, 2013, 02:02:09 PM
I like the casting for Christian Bale and Bradley Cooper.

For Michael, I picture Gerard Butler.  I can hear him telling Harry not to yada yada the Lord.

(http://skirts.provocateuse.com/images/photos/gerard_butler_02.jpg)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 22, 2013, 02:34:21 PM
Ive been trying to figure out a good actor for Billy Borden, and I think Ive settled on one of the Ashmore Twins.  It probably doesnt really matter which one, they are both comparable actors.  It might be randomly cool to use Shawn for early Billy, and Aaron for the later one after billy was supposed to have bulked up a bunch, but I think they'd need a story with more flashbacks to make that sort  of thing necessary. 

(http://i52.tinypic.com/ort452.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Mr. Ghostbuster on April 22, 2013, 11:55:31 PM
I've always pictured Michael Carpenter as taller and more more substantial than Ewan McGreggor, more like Hugh Jackman.
I am perfectly aware he's not the right build. Body-building during pre-production and shoe inserts/trick photography could fix some of that. That's not the point I am getting at, though. I think he has what it takes to bring the character and personality of Michael Carpenter to life, which I think is more important. I was thinking the same thing when Zachary Quinto originally had my vote as Harry Dresden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 23, 2013, 06:37:18 PM
Ewan has a good match for the personality, but I agree with those that say he just has the wrong appearance. Even as old as he is, he still has a very boyish look to him that isn't quite right for Michael.

Personally ive always seen Michael as an Eddard Stark type character. A man with a quiet strength and honor that just kind of radiates from him. A person who stands out as seeming out of his time, that would seem more at home as a knight defending some mid evil castle from a dragon. Someone who comes off as a bit tired and world weary from all that he has dealt with, but just keeps carrying on for the greater good.

In fact if I were a betting man, id be willing to put money on the idea that Eddard was one of Jim's major inspirations for Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 23, 2013, 07:47:37 PM
Ewan has a good match for the personality, but I agree with those that say he just has the wrong appearance. Even as old as he is, he still has a very boyish look to him that isn't quite right for Michael.

Personally ive always seen Michael as an Eddard Stark type character. A man with a quiet strength and honor that just kind of radiates from him. A person who stands out as seeming out of his time, that would seem more at home as a knight defending some mid evil castle from a dragon. Someone who comes off as a bit tired and world weary from all that he has dealt with, but just keeps carrying on for the greater good.

In fact if I were a betting man, id be willing to put money on the idea that Eddard was one of Jim's major inspirations for Michael.
He's got the right build, but to me he doesnt radiate the same humble benevolence and Inner Peace that Michael has.  Even in GoT when he is those things, he looks more haunted than Id want for Michael.  Eddard has the of a of a King, with all the weight that brings.  Michael needs to have the face of a Saint
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 23, 2013, 07:53:31 PM
Not the face of a Saint but the face of a Good Man.
Witness how, but for Harry, Michael would have near killed
the man who kidnapped his daughter.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Spot on April 23, 2013, 08:02:43 PM
Ive been trying to figure out a good actor for Billy Borden, and I think Ive settled on one of the Ashmore Twins.  It probably doesnt really matter which one, they are both comparable actors.  It might be randomly cool to use Shawn for early Billy, and Aaron for the later one after billy was supposed to have bulked up a bunch, but I think they'd need a story with more flashbacks to make that sort  of thing necessary. 

(http://i52.tinypic.com/ort452.jpg)
I'm an idiot. I never knew there were two of these guys.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 23, 2013, 08:08:15 PM
Not the face of a Saint but the face of a Good Man.
Witness how, but for Harry, Michael would have near killed
the man who kidnapped his daughter.
True, and massive rage should not be outside of his scope, but on the by-and-large his face should be able to show more contentment and i Dunno, Zen, than Ive ever seen from Eddard

I'm an idiot. I never knew there were two of these guys.
hehe, ya, it was a long while before I found out either.  They've said that more than once they've both auditioned for a part and it came down to a coin toss.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 23, 2013, 08:11:41 PM
True, and massive rage should not be outside of his scope, but on the by-and-large his face should be able to show more contentment and i Dunno, Zen, than Ive ever seen from Eddard
hehe, ya, it was a long while before I found out either.  They've said that more than once they've both auditioned for a part and it came down to a coin toss.

True on Michael.  I've got a feeling that if there is ever a Dresden movie and Michael is in it.
It's gonna be a decision on the spot kind of thing - possibly an unknown.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Spot on April 23, 2013, 08:39:18 PM
hehe, ya, it was a long while before I found out either.  They've said that more than once they've both auditioned for a part and it came down to a coin toss.
Hahahah, poor them! Though looking closely, I can pick up some differences in them. Not enough to make you think "different person!" but enough to make you take a second look. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 23, 2013, 08:44:06 PM
I know there are two of them since long ago, but I never remember which one worked in any given work. Earthsea, for instance. I would need Imdb.

I approve the Eddard look for Michael.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 23, 2013, 08:53:38 PM
Michael Carpenter
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwl8mqQI4M1qc5htmo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 24, 2013, 12:14:27 PM
Michael Carpenter
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/polls/416000/416557_1270837855935_full.jpg)
Did you perhaps mean Charity Carpenter?  ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 24, 2013, 01:28:47 PM
All I see is a red X.  Can you put who the person is that you are suggesting?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 24, 2013, 03:09:23 PM
All I see is a red X.  Can you put who the person is that you are suggesting?
At first it was a picture of some red-headed fashion model, but it has since been changed to a picture of a bearded Hugh Jackman.  If you hit the quote button and copy the link into your address bar, you can usually see it even when the direct post doesnt work.  My problem is that chrome doesnt include the Red X or any other broken link indication, so I often dont even realize there is supposed to be an image there unless I try to quote the post.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on April 24, 2013, 04:36:33 PM
Waldo Butters
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/28200000/Angela-Hodgins-7x06-The-Crack-in-the-Code-angela-and-hodgins-28281401-1280-719.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 24, 2013, 05:47:41 PM
For instance, I see nothing there, until I quoted. Then I copied the URL in a new tab and saw Hodgings. I disagree. He is too cool for Butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 24, 2013, 06:54:03 PM
For instance, I see nothing there, until I quoted. Then I copied the URL in a new tab and saw Hodgings. I disagree. He is too cool for Butters.
Agreed, he is too far on the rugged end of the spectrum, though Im sure his nerd-penis is of sufficient size.  If we are going for a Bones sourced Butters, Id vote Ryan Cartwright
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTY3NDg1OTU3OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDAwNTYxOA@@._V1._SY314_CR103,0,214,314_.jpg)

Though my perfect Butters is still DJ Qualls
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091121173041/scrubs/de/images/5/54/Josh.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 24, 2013, 07:04:02 PM
Jake Gyllenhaal as Thomas.

(http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/05/23/entertainment/photos_stories/cropped/jake_gyllenhaal--300x300.jpg)

Adding, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Kincaid.

(http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/nikolaj-coster-waldau-mama-madrid-premiere-1qn9u8.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 24, 2013, 08:03:02 PM
I am happy with the Kinkaid suggestion  :)
Thomas is Matt Bomer.
DJ Qualls can be Butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 24, 2013, 10:00:05 PM
I am happy with the Kinkaid suggestion  :)
Thomas is Matt Bomer.
DJ Qualls can be Butters.
He would be fine for Kincaid, though I have him pegged as my casting choice for Attis Aquitaine, so it my cause some scheduling conflicts :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: JEdward on April 25, 2013, 01:03:49 AM
This guy should play Mouse:
(http://i.imgur.com/RrASC52.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/RrASC52.jpg
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: JEdward on April 25, 2013, 01:05:39 AM
Oh yeah, he's a Tibetan mastiff puppy.

Here's an adult:
(http://i.imgur.com/xUwwgpr.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 25, 2013, 01:29:09 AM
No, here's the REAL Mouse ...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 25, 2013, 01:56:39 AM
I am happy with the Kinkaid suggestion  :)
Thomas is Matt Bomer.
DJ Qualls can be Butters.

I know that everyone seems to have pegged Matt Bomer as Thomas, but he has always seemed a bit too wholesome for me. Too friendly and nice. IMO Thomas needs a bit of an edge to him.

And Willie Garson will always be my Butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on April 25, 2013, 06:01:55 AM
I am happy with the Kinkaid suggestion  :)
Thomas is Matt Bomer.
DJ Qualls can be Butters.

I still think that this guy should be Kincaid.

(http://i.lv3.hbo.com/custom-assets/enrichments/series/game-of-thrones/r3/images/houses2/people/detail/bronn.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 25, 2013, 01:48:51 PM
I still think that this guy should be Kincaid.

(http://i.lv3.hbo.com/custom-assets/enrichments/series/game-of-thrones/r3/images/houses2/people/detail/bronn.jpg)
Im no expert, but is that the face of somebody that would make Murphy all hot and bothered?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: tuttman1234 on April 25, 2013, 02:46:04 PM
She said she was into bad guys. Doesn't he just look like a bad guy? And he has the right voice. It just makes all kinds of sense in my head.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 25, 2013, 02:48:41 PM
She said she was into bad guys. Doesn't he just look like a bad guy? And he has the right voice. It just makes all kinds of sense in my head.
She also said he was an attractive man, and he looks a little like he was beaten with an ugly stick.  Would make a great Erlking though.  Erl is supposed to be a little lop-sided
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 25, 2013, 05:04:34 PM
I agree with Q on this one.  I can't picture that guy
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 25, 2013, 05:44:41 PM
Honestly, I picture someone like Chris Helmsworth (Thor) as Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 25, 2013, 07:48:43 PM
I could totally agree with him too.  He is super yummy.

I mean, he is a great actor.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 25, 2013, 07:51:31 PM
I could totally agree with him too.  He is super yummy.

I mean, he is a great actor.

Riiiiigggghhhhhtttt Chiana!!  A great actor. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 25, 2013, 07:53:22 PM
(have you seen the man?)  *dreamy sigh*

I mean, he is a good actor.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 25, 2013, 08:09:13 PM
Do you know he is supposed to lose body mass for his next movie? I think he is crazy and I am angry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 25, 2013, 08:20:28 PM
That is not good.   >:(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 25, 2013, 08:21:53 PM
Well, maybe the next movie will have us in a mind of casting him as butters.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CaligoKnight on April 29, 2013, 06:38:04 PM
I would like to see Bruce Willis as Ebenezer. And then Nathan Fillion as Kincaid. That would be a confrontation of the ages.

I'm a big fan of Kristen Bell as Murphy.

And just because I'm a Whovian too, David Tennant as Arthur Langtry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 29, 2013, 06:52:10 PM
As awesome as Tennnat is, he just isn't right for a centuries old wizard. Same for Willis as Ebenezer.

Bell as Murphy I could see in a few years though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 29, 2013, 07:00:35 PM
Agreed.  I still say Hugh Laurie is perfect for Langtry.  Bruce Willis might make a good Mac, though he is aging out of the Indeterminate Middle Years timelessness that Mac is supposed to have.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on April 29, 2013, 08:21:30 PM
As awesome as Tennnat is, he just isn't right for a centuries old wizard.

Really? But...the Doctor is practically that. And he rocked it!
But yes, Hugh Laurie will be great!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 29, 2013, 08:25:30 PM
Agreed.  I still say Hugh Laurie is perfect for Langtry.  Bruce Willis might make a good Mac, though he is aging out of the Indeterminate Middle Years timelessness that Mac is supposed to have.

Yes, I like both of those.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 29, 2013, 08:46:40 PM
I could TOTALLY see David Tennant as Peabody.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on April 29, 2013, 09:15:38 PM
I could TOTALLY see David Tennant as Peabody.
Hmmmmm. Interesting idea. I like it.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 30, 2013, 01:17:00 AM
I could TOTALLY see David Tennant as Peabody.
I could get behind that.  He can do the full gambit from calm and collected to batshit crazy, and is emaciated enough


just saw the new Man of Steel trailer, and Im starting to lean toward Russel Crowe for Michael
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on April 30, 2013, 01:50:51 AM
I could get behind that.  He can do the full gambit from calm and collected to batshit crazy, and is emaciated enough


just saw the new Man of Steel trailer, and Im starting to lean toward Russel Crowe for Michael

No, I don't think so.  Crowe has too knowing a look on his face.
I had a thought - what about David Wenham for Michael?
(Faramir in Lord of the Rings.)  There's an innocence to his face.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 30, 2013, 03:35:53 AM
No, I don't think so.  Crowe has too knowing a look on his face.
I had a thought - what about David Wenham for Michael?
(Faramir in Lord of the Rings.)  There's an innocence to his face.
I aggree, but I dont see that as a bad thign for Michael.  Michael is a guy that has been fighting evil for decades, and seen some of the worst the iuniverse has to offer, but can still smile and enjoy simple times with his family.  Crowe I think can bring that kind of depth to the role, without it turning into weight.  if that makes any sense at all...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on April 30, 2013, 01:28:48 PM
I just had an odd thought for Nicodemus Archleone.

How about Charlie Sheen?  He can play the laid back rich guy.  He's good at acting a bit crazy.  And wouldn't we all love to see him get strangled a bit with his noose?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on April 30, 2013, 01:46:18 PM
He looks a little too worn out and weathered these days.  Burned out might be a better phrase.  If he wasnt locked in a permanent sleeze-ball persona Id say he might be ok for Nick Angel or something, but...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on April 30, 2013, 01:56:38 PM
No Charlie Sheen, please and thank you.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 01, 2013, 05:46:28 PM
I'm with Chiana - ABSOLUTELY NO CHARLIE SHEEN.
He's a train wreck waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on May 01, 2013, 10:55:45 PM
I'm with Chiana - ABSOLUTELY NO CHARLIE SHEEN.
He's a train wreck waiting to happen.

Waiting?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on May 02, 2013, 03:29:13 AM
Heard an actor mentioned in another thread and immediately thought:

Alan Rickman as Langtry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on May 02, 2013, 04:28:02 PM
Waiting?

Maybe they mean the next train wreck.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 02, 2013, 07:04:24 PM
^
Give that Vorlon a burger king. :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on May 15, 2013, 02:20:32 AM
So I was watching Big Fish last night and it hit me that 10 years ago, Billy Crudup would have been the perfect Harry Dresden:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/ShadowXCN/image-4.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ShadowXCN/media/image-4.jpg.html)

Looks just like the book cover model, and his personality seems like a good match.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on May 21, 2013, 05:43:50 AM
Ellen Page, at 5'1", with blonde hair cut short?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on May 21, 2013, 06:59:25 AM
Had an odd thought - How about Carl Urban for Harry?
(Currently playing McCoy on the new Trek)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: CritterKeeper on June 02, 2013, 03:56:49 PM
Vincent Ventresca would be a great Harry Dresden!  Anyone remember the TV series "The Invisible Man" a few years ago?  Tall, lanky, good at snark and temporary insanity alike....re-reading the series, I keep hearing Vince's voice saying Harry's lines.  8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 03, 2013, 01:18:42 PM
Vincent Ventresca would be a great Harry Dresden!  Anyone remember the TV series "The Invisible Man" a few years ago?  Tall, lanky, good at snark and temporary insanity alike....re-reading the series, I keep hearing Vince's voice saying Harry's lines.  8)
I can see that pretty well.  He fits the descriptions, if not my personal mental image.  I tend to picture Harry as a broader and more muscular person than the descriptions.  But he definitely has the necessary snark and crazy.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on June 03, 2013, 05:37:32 PM
I see Harry more handsome  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tami Seven on June 03, 2013, 07:16:39 PM
Brian Dietzen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Dietzen) might be an interesting choice to play Butters. He already has the ME role down.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 03, 2013, 07:19:19 PM
True, but he isn't, in my mind, quite geeky enough.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tami Seven on June 03, 2013, 07:29:08 PM
True, but he isn't, in my mind, quite geeky enough.

He's a litlte tall for the part, though finding someone 5'5" or under might be tricky. But he seems to be pretty geeky in NCIS.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 03, 2013, 07:31:58 PM
True but he is awful good looking.
I'm not saying Butters is ugly but from all I remember he
isn't that good looking.
There's one guy over on the, now defunct, show - Body of Proof - who might
work.  Gonna have to go Google his name.

Found him.  Geoffrey Arend.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Arend
Geeky and funny.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Tami Seven on June 03, 2013, 08:53:11 PM
True but he is awful good looking.
I'm not saying Butters is ugly but from all I remember he
isn't that good looking.
There's one guy over on the, now defunct, show - Body of Proof - who might
work.  Gonna have to go Google his name.

Found him.  Geoffrey Arend.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Arend
Geeky and funny.

Arend kind of has the look for it, but to me Butters is a little better looking than him.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 03, 2013, 08:58:17 PM
Arend kind of has the look for it, but to me Butters is a little better looking than him.
enough to a hottie like catch Andi at least.  And he doesnt have a Polka-enthusiast face according to my subconscious.  DJ Qualls will always be butters in my head, though.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on June 04, 2013, 04:26:55 PM
enough to a hottie like catch Andi at least.  And he doesnt have a Polka-enthusiast face according to my subconscious.  DJ Qualls will always be butters in my head, though.

DJ Qualls (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0702809/?ref_=tt_cl_t3) Has my vote.  He is a bit tall, but that's not a big deal.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiroptera on June 09, 2013, 07:21:38 PM
True but he is awful good looking.
I'm not saying Butters is ugly but from all I remember he
isn't that good looking.
There's one guy over on the, now defunct, show - Body of Proof - who might
work.  Gonna have to go Google his name.

Found him.  Geoffrey Arend.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Arend
Geeky and funny.

I've never heard of him, but that picture looks like he's trying to do a circa 1990 Jeff Goldblum impersonation.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on June 11, 2013, 02:49:58 AM
I've never heard of him, but that picture looks like he's trying to do a circa 1990 Jeff Goldblum impersonation.

yep
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KLRRdlyOFtE/T2QPRxsgwwI/AAAAAAAAPSQ/MOlLNZms74U/s1600/The%2BFly%2B1.png)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Interitus on June 11, 2013, 05:19:02 PM
Nathan Filion has my vote based on the guy who I think could best pull of the acting, because Captain Tightpants was basically Harry Dresden... IN SPACE! But he doesn't really have the right look for it, in my opinion. That part doesn't matter as much, but it's still kind of important if they really want to capture the books. Harry's looks are a large part of his persona.

On the other side of that particular coin, I think Jared Padalecki has the right look, but I really doubt he could do the acting part. Everything I've seen him in, he's had kind of an identical vibe. And after watching Supernatural, I really doubt he'll ever be anyone but Sam Winchester in my mind.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 11, 2013, 09:23:45 PM
Nathan Filion has my vote based on the guy who I think could best pull of the acting, because Captain Tightpants was basically Harry Dresden... IN SPACE! But he doesn't really have the right look for it, in my opinion. That part doesn't matter as much, but it's still kind of important if they really want to capture the books. Harry's looks are a large part of his persona.

On the other side of that particular coin, I think Jared Padalecki has the right look, but I really doubt he could do the acting part. Everything I've seen him in, he's had kind of an identical vibe. And after watching Supernatural, I really doubt he'll ever be anyone but Sam Winchester in my mind.
Nathan might have done it a decade ago in his firefly vintage, but to me he has, unfortunately, aged out of it.  Jared just cant seem to pull off anything but whiny little bitch, and certainly hasnt shown the acting chops you'd need for Harry.  Whoever plays harry is going to face one hell of a challenge to please us book fans, because he will have to convey the level of emotion and insight that we expect, without us actually being in his head (unless they resort to prodigious use of voice-over, like I saw in the first episodes of Arrow, for example).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: ShadowX81 on June 12, 2013, 03:42:11 AM
Jared is also way too cool looking and muscular. Harry needs sort of a geeky and vulnerable aspect to his look that Jared just doesn't have. You need to sort of believe (at least in the tv world) that Harry doesn't think of himself as much of a catch. Jared obviously spends a huge amount of time on his appearance, so I can't see him being able to believably play that aspect of the character.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on June 12, 2013, 11:01:50 AM
Jared is also way too cool looking and muscular. Harry needs sort of a geeky and vulnerable aspect to his look that Jared just doesn't have. You need to sort of believe (at least in the tv world) that Harry doesn't think of himself as much of a catch. Jared obviously spends a huge amount of time on his appearance, so I can't see him being able to believably play that aspect of the character.

And that is why Paul Blackthorne was good in the role.  Put a the hat and the duster on Paul and he's A-OK.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 12, 2013, 02:08:59 PM
I think I have my new Nicodemus:  Robert Knepper

(http://www.filmoria.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Robert-Knepper1.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on June 12, 2013, 03:14:39 PM
I think I have my new Nicodemus:  Robert Knepper

(http://www.filmoria.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Robert-Knepper1.jpg)

Yes... welcome to the Griffyn side... 

This is the picture that convinced me.
(http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/robert_knepper_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 12, 2013, 03:56:59 PM
Just watch the Transporter trilogy, and he had just the right balance of evil, weathered without looking old, and causal disregard for others.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on June 12, 2013, 06:02:38 PM
Yes, I love him for Nic.  He looks so darn Nic-like.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Interitus on June 14, 2013, 09:44:56 PM
He'd also make a good Marcone in my opinion. Then again, those two look similar in my head for some reason...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 16, 2013, 06:12:51 PM
In my head marcone looks younger and less overtly evil. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on June 16, 2013, 06:14:31 PM
In my head, Marcone is older, but yes, less overtly evil  :)

I think Knepper would do a good Nicodemus.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: deagankali on June 17, 2013, 03:24:29 AM
my casting thoughts....
Michael carpenter - Nathan fillion
Thomas - johnny depp
butters - seth green
bob - tim curry
Kincaid - ray liotta
ebenezar - sam Elliot
mac - adam Baldwin
harry - craig bierko
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 17, 2013, 02:52:26 PM
my casting thoughts....
Michael carpenter - Nathan fillion
Thomas - johnny depp
butters - seth green
bob - tim curry
Kincaid - ray liotta
ebenezar - sam Elliot
mac - adam Baldwin
harry - craig bierko
You know, I never considered Nathan Fillion for Michael, mostly because I had him in my head as a good candidate for Harry if he were ten years younger.  But, especially after seeing his angry father chops in a recent episode of Castle, I think he could be damn good as Michael.  Jonny Depp looks way to old and weathered for Thomas.  He is twice Thomas's apparent age, and I saw him in an interview about the Lone Ranger recently, he is starting to show it.  I have a similar issue with Craig Bierko for Harry.  Ive been leaning toward Bruce Willis as Mac, though he may not have the Indeterminate Middle Age that Mac is supposed to have.  Ray Liotta is about to age out of Kinkaid IMO, though right now he may work;  However after seeing Fast and Furious 6 Im thinking Luke Evens would make a good one. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on June 17, 2013, 03:31:58 PM
Why has no one mentioned Nathan Fillion or James Marsters?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 17, 2013, 03:33:14 PM
Why has no one mentioned Nathan Fillion or James Marsters?
Both have been mentioned several times for various roles.  Did you have one in particular in mind?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on June 17, 2013, 05:16:21 PM
my casting thoughts....
Michael carpenter - Nathan fillion
Thomas - johnny depp
butters - seth green
bob - tim curry
Kincaid - ray liotta
ebenezar - sam Elliot
mac - adam Baldwin
harry - craig bierko
You know, I never considered Nathan Fillion for Michael, mostly because I had him in my head as a good candidate for Harry if he were ten years younger.  But, especially after seeing his angry father chops in a recent episode of Castle, I think he could be damn good as Michael.  Jonny Depp looks way to old and weathered for Thomas.  He is twice Thomas's apparent age, and I saw him in an interview about the Lone Ranger recently, he is starting to show it.  I have a similar issue with Craig Bierko for Harry.  Ive been leaning toward Bruce Willis as Mac, though he may not have the Indeterminate Middle Age that Mac is supposed to have.  Ray Liotta is about to age out of Kinkaid IMO, though right now he may work;  However after seeing Fast and Furious 6 Im thinking Luke Evens would make a good one. 

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest Ian McShane for Nicodemus.
I'm still kind of stuck on Billy Burke for Harry.
Helena Bonham Carter for Nicodemus' daughter (Dierdra?)

I think it would be kind of fun if Jim himself were to voice Bob.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 17, 2013, 05:50:32 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest Ian McShane for Nicodemus.
I just cant see him dueling two Knights of the Cross while perked attop a moving train.  For similar reasons I think Marcone's actor needs to be relatively young.  They need to be able to convey grace and prowess, and unfortunately many of the best villain actors (McShane included) are on the wrong side of the Hill, so to speak.
Quote
I'm still kind of stuck on Billy Burke for Harry.
Not quite how he looks in my head, but I would not be upset by that casting.
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Helena Bonham Carter for Nicodemus' daughter (Dierdra?)
Yes!  But only because she is getting too old to be Maeve. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on June 17, 2013, 08:23:04 PM
Chris Melonie for Marcone.

Younger and bad ass looking.
Does cold as ice very, very well.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 18, 2013, 03:09:42 PM
Ive been a fan of Ed Quinn for Marcone, but Chris Melonie would work too, if for different reasons.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on June 18, 2013, 10:15:06 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest Ian McShane for Nicodemus.
Helena Bonham Carter for Nicodemus' daughter (Dierdra?)

Ian McShane would be a good Nicodemus, but Helena Bonham Carter for Nicodemus' daughter (Dierdra?) ? Nooooo.  I'd pick Uma Thurman with long red hair similar to her look as Poison Ivy from Batman & Robin (1997) for Dierdra.  With that look and her Kill Bill moves, Uma would be great as Diedra.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Teldra on June 21, 2013, 02:35:33 AM
Don't know if anyone else has suggested this, apologies if they have but I don't feel like reading this whole thread to check.
I've been watching season 8 of 'Dexter' recently, and the bad guy for this season looks just like how I picture Marcone. It freaks me out every time I see him. Picture here:

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm423930112/ch0310146 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm423930112/ch0310146)

Or is it just me?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on June 21, 2013, 02:39:28 AM
I'd say is a good choice.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on June 21, 2013, 06:52:17 AM
UI always thought he would make a good Hendricks, watch him in Rome
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Interitus on June 21, 2013, 07:42:32 AM
UI always thought he would make a good Hendricks, watch him in Rome

Nah, just watch him in Dexter. Ray Stevenson nails the whole "civil yet savage mob boss" thing. Isaak Sirko IS Marcone.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on June 21, 2013, 01:12:11 PM
From his Punisher perfomrance he might be ok as Kincaid as well.  But My favorites are still Porthos and Volstagg:

(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/volstagg.jpg)
(http://0.tqn.com/d/movies/1/0/u/B/Y/three-musketeers-ray-stevenson.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on July 01, 2013, 03:20:18 PM
Recently had a new candidate for Harry:  Victor H. Webster.  He has the look, and at 6'3" he has the height.  He's also no stranger to scifi type roles, being known for roles in MutantX, Continuum, and the recent Direct to DVD Scorpion King 3

PS. Do not google him looking for a picture while at work.  He has apparently done some modeling, and lets just say its not something you want people seeing over your shoulder.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on July 01, 2013, 03:26:51 PM
Oh, I went to IMDB (safe site) and I remember him from Charmed.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: smirksome on July 04, 2013, 05:35:15 PM
Okay so I put together a list of who I would choose for the cast. I tried to keep it on the younger side since I would believe that it would have to be multiple years.

Harry- Taylor Kitsch or Joel Mchale
Thomas- Matt Bomer
Michael-Karl Urban
Murphy- Mila kunis or Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Bob-Too many options...James Spader, Jason Bateman, Aziz Ansari
Lara- Kate Beckinsale
Molly- Chloe Moretz
Susan- Camilla Belle
Marcone- Liam Neeson to be honest I always picture Tom Wilkinson when reading but I thought he was too old.
Eb-Tommy Lee Jones
Nic-Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Morgan- Jeffrey Donovan
Merlin- Alan Rickman
Ramirez- Tristan Wilds
Sanya- Michael Jai White
Winter Queen- Alice Eve
Kincaid- Jason Statham
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Interitus on July 05, 2013, 03:15:08 AM
Harry- Taylor Kitsch or Joel Mchale

I have major problems with both of these: One is too pretty and the other is Jeff Winger.

Kitsch looks like he'd make a great Thomas.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on July 05, 2013, 04:46:19 AM
I have major problems with both of these: One is too pretty and the other is Jeff Winger.

Kitsch looks like he'd make a great Thomas.

(http://geek-news.mtv.com//wp-content/uploads/geek/2013/05/top-10-characters-for-the-beach-jim-winger.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: smirksome on July 05, 2013, 01:57:57 PM
Casting Harry is really difficult because you need someone fairly tall, dark, intelligent, and intense...almost a perpetual rage. From above I think Clive Owen and Timothy Olyphant fit that bill. But I was also trying to cast younger. Google Kitsch as Gambit and that is where I he came from and I've always thought Joel Mchale as great with the intensity and quick witted enough to play Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: smirksome on July 05, 2013, 02:00:20 PM
i.e.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: sashathestrange on July 13, 2013, 11:09:19 AM
OK so I'm coming out of "lurk and read" mode to post this:
I was watching Leverage and came across Andrew Bowen. The voice isn't perfect but I think he's a solid "maybe" for Harry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBCL0V30GoI
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYbrhEq7W60
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on July 26, 2013, 01:38:16 AM
Jason Statham - Kincaid ... Perfect.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sandtigress on July 26, 2013, 02:13:47 AM
He (Nicholas Gonzalez) doesn't do the trademark smirk so well, but this is Ramirez in my head.  <3

(click to show/hide)
Editing because I don't like how big that picture is....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on July 26, 2013, 02:18:19 AM
I found him!  :P

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2625809664/nm1301857 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2625809664/nm1301857)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Sandtigress on July 26, 2013, 02:19:50 AM
I found him!  :P

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2625809664/nm1301857 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2625809664/nm1301857)

Watch out, you might get shot in the knee for that one...   ;) By Ramirez...not by me....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on July 26, 2013, 03:59:52 AM
gonna endorse the Andrew Bowen suggestion. There are few actors I think meet the actual type cast of Harry, but this guy could pull it off, particularly as he gets older.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on July 26, 2013, 02:23:41 PM
He (Nicholas Gonzalez) doesn't do the trademark smirk so well, but this is Ramirez in my head.  <3

(click to show/hide)
Editing because I don't like how big that picture is....

I could totally see that.

As to Andrew Bowen, I don't think I've seen any of this stuff.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on July 26, 2013, 03:17:34 PM
I've seen the links, and even when I think he looks quite well for Harry in a picture, when he begins playing it doesn't convince me. He is too cute for Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on July 26, 2013, 07:19:49 PM
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/4500000/Coach-Taylor-friday-night-lights-4535060-1714-2560.jpg)

Marcone
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: EvilDan on July 31, 2013, 12:23:53 PM
If Bruce Campbell were still an appropriate age for the character, I'd say he has the attitude and quick wit seemingly required to play Harry, just not the NBA height requirement. However, he's used to playing a role where it's him vs seemingly the worst baddies in the underworld.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on August 02, 2013, 06:13:10 PM
Okay, I had an inspiration.  What about Katee Sackhoff for Murphy.  She's a bit tall, but she does fit the character.

First, she's blonde. 
She could be "the girl next door" and be "somebody's aunt".
As Starbuck, she kicked some ass, and she showed a soft side too.

I think it fits.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on August 02, 2013, 06:22:22 PM
I am totally on board with Katee Sackhoff as Murphy.  She completely fits the character, IMHO.  She is taller (5'6", if one can believe IMBD), but everything else seems spot on.

(http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/katee-sackhoff-longmire-season-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Garraffa on August 09, 2013, 09:49:33 PM
I know that I am pretty late to this, but I have always felt Jeffrey Donovan from Burn Notice could make a good Harry. I know people would disagree, but I feel he has that good voice over thing going for him as well.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Jeffrey_Donovan_in_2008.JPG
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on August 09, 2013, 09:54:39 PM
He has been suggested as Harry a couple of times, but we have at least a very vocal defender of Donovan as Nicodemus  :). I like him as Nic myself.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: randeedoo on August 10, 2013, 03:20:10 PM
I saw a music video on YouTube the other day that does a pretty good job of 'casting' most of the various DF characters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldvy8bUV7HA

Harry Dresden - Jeffrey Pierce
Karrin Murphy - Sarah Jones
Thomas Raith - Ben Barnes
Molly Carpenter - Taylor Momsen
Michael Carpenter - Daniel Craig
Nicodemus - Jason Butler Harner
Waldo Butters - David Krumholtz
Susan Rodriguez - Marisol Nichols
Ivy - Chloe Grace Moretz
Mab - Nicole Kidman
John Marcone - Jon Hamm
Lara Raith - Anna Silk
Sanya - Tyrese Gibson
Jared Kincaid - Wes Ramsey
Elaine Mallory - Amber Heard
Charity Carpenter - Elizabeth Mitchell
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on August 10, 2013, 04:11:17 PM
I saw a music video on YouTube the other day that does a pretty good job of 'casting' most of the various DF characters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldvy8bUV7HA

Harry Dresden - Jeffrey Pierce
Karrin Murphy - Sarah Jones
Thomas Raith - Ben Barnes
Molly Carpenter - Taylor Momsen
Michael Carpenter - Daniel Craig
Nicodemus - Jason Butler Harner
Waldo Butters - David Krumholtz
Susan Rodriguez - Marisol Nichols
Ivy - Chloe Grace Moretz
Mab - Nicole Kidman
John Marcone - Jon Hamm
Lara Raith - Anna Silk
Sanya - Tyrese Gibson
Jared Kincaid - Wes Ramsey
Elaine Mallory - Amber Heard
Charity Carpenter - Elizabeth Mitchell

What terrible music
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on August 10, 2013, 05:21:00 PM
I liked the video!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 12, 2013, 02:28:29 PM
What terrible music
And yet, an awesome work non-the-less   :)
 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on August 12, 2013, 05:11:50 PM
And yet, an awesome work non-the-less   :)

C+
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 12, 2013, 05:13:36 PM
do better then ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on August 12, 2013, 05:25:12 PM
do better then ;)

I've done my time as a video editor, its a thankless job.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 12, 2013, 05:26:02 PM
haha, behold, Irony  ;D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on August 12, 2013, 05:32:20 PM
haha, behold, Irony  ;D

Thats why I gave him the "+"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: KoshN on August 15, 2013, 03:28:44 PM
He'd play either quite well.  Only problem is, he's usually a creepy scarey guy, so if he was playing Peabody, people immdediatley say "Aw, fuck.  That's John Malkovitch.  Peobody's got to be a villain."  Wonder who Gary Oldman would play best?

John Malkovich as Mac.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 15, 2013, 08:20:41 PM
Jeff Dye as Harry Dresden. Can't load a pic from my phone, but Google him.  I'll see if I can post a pic a little later.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 15, 2013, 08:22:47 PM
Jeff Dye as Harry Dresden. Can't load a pic from my phone, but Google him.  I'll see if I can post a pic a little later.
I could see that.  Though Ive never previously heard of him, so I dont know what his acting range is.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly0elyqi6v1qbf94zo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 15, 2013, 08:29:00 PM
John Malkovich as Mac.

Sorry, no.
(In my opinion)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 15, 2013, 08:30:05 PM
John Malkovich as Mac.
Too old for it now IMO, and doesnt have the...solid feel that I get from Mac. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on August 15, 2013, 08:32:31 PM
Also, a good part of Malkovich's skill is in his delivery of lines.
Mac says so very little that it would be a waste of Malkovich's talent.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 15, 2013, 08:34:36 PM
I could see that.  Though Ive never previously heard of him, so I dont know what his acting range is.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly0elyqi6v1qbf94zo1_500.jpg)

Huh, that would work. Where'd he previously appeared in? (...I should probably just google but...)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 15, 2013, 08:43:30 PM
Huh, that would work. Where'd he previously appeared in? (...I should probably just google but...)
Looks like he's mostly standup, hasnt actually acted in anything
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Jaeh on August 15, 2013, 08:52:47 PM
Looks like he's mostly standup, hasnt actually acted in anything

Huh. Might not be a good fit then, but... hmmm, maybe, you never know, eh?

I don't remember - has Zachary Levi ever been brought up? I mean, probably, but what did we think of him again?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 15, 2013, 08:59:45 PM
Huh. Might not be a good fit then, but... hmmm, maybe, you never know, eh?

I don't remember - has Zachary Levi ever been brought up? I mean, probably, but what did we think of him again?
Not tough enough, though Im admittedly biased by Chuck.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 15, 2013, 09:29:54 PM
Looks like he's mostly standup, hasnt actually acted in anything
Yeah, I'd never heard of him, but I saw him on a stand-up show on Comedy Central last night, and he was amusing.  And he looks like he was the model for the cover art.  Lord knows if he can act, but most people who do good stand-up can act, at least for the camera.  He's apparently 6'1", 30yo,

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/3001218186_465d14340a.jpg)

(http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/82/1fc2a443ebbc0e03f1d63ace721d4a0e/l.jpg)

(http://img.poptower.com/pic-86597/jeff-dye.jpg?d=1024)

(http://mtvpress.com/img/assets/9645/jeff_dye2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: DoTArchon on August 16, 2013, 06:44:51 AM
I'd rather cast Malkovich as one of the Big Bad's, or at least someone who scares the crap out of Harry i.e. Nicodemus, Erlking, Cowl  etc.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Little-Puff on August 22, 2013, 05:24:56 AM
Harry - Ryan Hurst (Maxwell & King Tv series)
Thomas - Matt Borner (White Collar Tv series)
Murphy - Ali Larter (Heroes, Resident Evil)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on August 22, 2013, 01:56:55 PM
Harry - Ryan Hurst (Maxwell & King Tv series)
Thomas - Matt Borner (White Collar Tv series)
Murphy - Ali Larter (Heroes, Resident Evil)

I've still got Katee Sackhoff as Murphy.  I could see Ali Larter as Charity though.

How about Ray Wise as ... well ... I can see him as either Marcone or Nick or Vadderung for that matter.

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTYzNTg0NDU5NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDQ5NTk3MQ@@._V1._SY314_CR17,0,214,314_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: AndiSue on August 23, 2013, 01:30:08 AM
I'm new here, but fantasy casting for the Dresden Files is how I realized I was a total fan girl so I figured this was the best place for me to start.

I've been reading through this thread for hours now, but still haven't read all of them - so forgive me if I make some repeats.

Harry - Karl Urban (although this is still up in the air) http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4042307840/nm0881631?ref_=nmmi_mi_all_sf_25
Murphy - Allison Mack (she's too tall at 5'5", but I think she is cute and she is blonde and already has the right hair cut) http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/allison-mack/images/178733/title/allison-mack-wallpaper
Bob (voice) - Jim Butcher
Susan - Cote de Pablo http://croobal.com/hot-celebs/celebpedia/cote-de-pablo-hot-pictures-information-and-bio/
Marcone - Ray Wise (although someone recently suggested Christopher Meloni and I could get on board with that)
Bianca - Daniela Ruah http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/daniela-ruah/images/10690202/title/daniela-maxim-march-2010-photo

I've read in some of the older posts that Jim Butcher has said that Alexi Denisov is the closest actor for Harry that he can think of.  I never watched Buffy, so I only know Denisov as Sandy Weathers on How I Met Your Mother and I definitely CANNOT see *that* guy playing Harry Dresden.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Zohak on August 23, 2013, 05:45:58 AM
Tyr from Andromeda aka
Keith Hamilton Cobb for Sanya
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0167788/?ref_=tt_cl_t6


Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on August 23, 2013, 02:24:01 PM
I hadn't thought that. I like it!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Lash Dresden on August 24, 2013, 01:24:24 AM
Susan - Cote de Pablo http://croobal.com/hot-celebs/celebpedia/cote-de-pablo-hot-pictures-information-and-bio/
I hadn't thought of her - I totally second this!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: AndiSue on August 26, 2013, 08:24:32 PM
So, for some reason...whenever I read anything about Lasciel, my mental image is of the warlock succubus from World of Warcraft...

(http://www.emence.com/images/wow/screenshots/Hello_Succubus.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on August 27, 2013, 12:33:06 PM
But thats not Lasciel, thats Rosanna  ;)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: AndiSue on August 28, 2013, 02:10:55 AM
But thats not Lasciel, thats Rosanna  ;)

At the risk of sounding like a big 'ol dummy...who is Rosanna? 

Of course, I also imagine Demonreach looking like a Voidwalker from WoW.  Maybe I have a WoW problem. :-\

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071127191747/wowwiki/images/5/5c/SummonedVoidwalker.jpg)

PS - I graduated from Lurker to Participant!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on August 28, 2013, 02:20:13 AM
Sanya's lover.
And congratulations!!  :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: AndiSue on August 28, 2013, 03:00:18 AM
Sanya's lover.
And congratulations!!  :D

Ah...I missed that.  I'm on my second time through all the books and I'm just on Death Masks.  I'll be sure to look out for Rosanna.

*Just checked the Wiki...yeah, that *is* Rosanna.  Guess I've got to find a new Lash now.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on September 07, 2013, 03:17:11 PM
Okay, I've been finishing off the first season of Revolution, and I'm even more convinced that Billy Burke would make a fantastic Harry.  He has the looks, he can do the snark (though he doesn't do much in the show) and he has the range of acting.

He's got my vote.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: priscilladida on September 14, 2013, 01:58:06 AM
how about Vin Diesel (with hair) as Kincaid
this is vin diesel with hair ....
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OR8Yzv6NLvs/TnGXNQT9tJI/AAAAAAAAEI4/fyS_Femlr7c/s200/Vin+Diesel+with+hair+05.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: priscilladida on September 14, 2013, 02:01:55 AM
I hadn't thought of her - I totally second this!
third!!! esp after grave peril
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on September 14, 2013, 07:34:19 PM
No ones mentioned Nathan Fillion
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTMwOTQ0MDUyNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTQ1MzY1Mw@@._V1._SX315_SY400_.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on September 16, 2013, 04:25:19 PM
For Kincaid?  Nah, he has never been the overtly athletic, mercenary type, even before he went soft around the edges.  Nowadays Id say he looks both too old and too thick for the role.  It would also be a waste of perfectly good active skills IMO,  Kincaid is not a character that requires range. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on September 17, 2013, 01:36:05 PM
this is vin diesel with hair ....
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OR8Yzv6NLvs/TnGXNQT9tJI/AAAAAAAAEI4/fyS_Femlr7c/s200/Vin+Diesel+with+hair+05.jpg)

NONONONONONO!  Take off the hair.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on September 17, 2013, 06:28:14 PM
NONONONONONO!  Take off the hair.
(click to show/hide)

(muahahaha)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on September 17, 2013, 07:04:01 PM
You are a brat.   :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on September 17, 2013, 07:06:14 PM
You're just figuring that out, Chiana. ::)
Quantus likes to push the envelope as far as he can and then nudge it a little further.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on September 18, 2013, 04:01:09 PM
You're just figuring that out, Chiana. ::)
Quantus likes to push the envelope as far as he can and then nudge it a little further.
Nonsense. I simply reject the reality of this "envelope" thing you speak of  :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: priscilladida on September 21, 2013, 12:23:22 PM
this is exactly how i imagine teenage dresden
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR748D13Bf5BmDButoOKy1aFtF-t1SuJzi2vDVwESpaZaVJOuJ1)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 22, 2013, 03:36:21 AM
I still like this

(http://www.theplace2.ru/archive/christian_kane/img/leverage_christian_k.jpg)

for Kincaid.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 22, 2013, 03:40:43 AM
Hello WJM!!!
I can't see the picture  :(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 22, 2013, 05:29:57 PM
Christian Kane.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 22, 2013, 06:19:59 PM
Ah, not bad. Thanks!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on September 26, 2013, 03:54:45 PM
I'm not 100% on who, but Gideon Emery has impressed me with his bad guy performance on Teen Wolf.  I could see him doing Nicodemus, or maybe some Council member.  He could do something smaller like Victor Sells, but I think it'd be waste.

(http://gideonemerydaily.com/wp-content/themes/GED/images/header_05.png)

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130724202617/vampirediariesfanon/images/thumb/1/19/670px-Teen_Wolf_Season_3_Episode_1_Tattoo_Gideon_Emery_Alpha_Deucalion.png/640px-670px-Teen_Wolf_Season_3_Episode_1_Tattoo_Gideon_Emery_Alpha_Deucalion.png)

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on September 27, 2013, 02:15:00 PM
this is exactly how i imagine teenage dresden
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR748D13Bf5BmDButoOKy1aFtF-t1SuJzi2vDVwESpaZaVJOuJ1)

Is that a young Hugh Laurie?

Brings an interesting thought: how about Hugh Laurie as Harry?  Not played as abusive as House, but it fits my mental image.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 27, 2013, 03:07:40 PM
Yes, he is. And he is too old for Harry  :(
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on September 27, 2013, 04:46:36 PM
here's a thought.  What about him for Langtry?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on September 27, 2013, 07:45:00 PM
I would like that!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: exartiem on September 30, 2013, 03:11:22 PM
I like Jeremy Irons better for Langtry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on September 30, 2013, 05:14:54 PM
I've never seen a picture of Hugh Laurie young like that.  He reminds me of Mark Hamill.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 01, 2013, 12:57:59 PM
here's a thought.  What about him for Langtry?
Been saying that for years!  He has the look, the arrogance, and the lurking hate just under the surface.  He's perfect!

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g318/wingsunseen/Laurie.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 02, 2013, 01:50:48 AM
Not old enough IMHO.  Maybe would work w/long white hair/beard.  Still think Christopher Lee is the best wizard to hit the screen.  Saruman was once part of the "other" White Council, too...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on October 03, 2013, 06:32:10 PM
Quantus - Did you use the Duck Dynasty app for that?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 03, 2013, 06:34:23 PM
More or less;  it is a Microsoft Product after all  :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: leo81202 on October 03, 2013, 07:02:33 PM
I'm curious if anyone has said Idris Elba for Sanya, cause he would be perfect for that role
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 03, 2013, 07:47:40 PM
I'm curious if anyone has said Idris Elba for Sanya, cause he would be perfect for that role
He'd have to bulk up some to get the Linebacker-like build Sanya has, but could definitely pull it off.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on October 03, 2013, 07:58:35 PM
Like Terry Crews?

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111111422/3006994-crews.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 03, 2013, 08:11:03 PM
Like Terry Crews?

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111111422/3006994-crews.jpg)
Right build, wrong face.  Sanya is a person who more naturally smiles, something more Hopeful, than Crews.  Im a big fan of Crews, but his neutral face is still kind of a frown, and the smile just doesnt look like his natural state.  Actually the perfect sanya to my mind was the late Michael Clarke Duncan
(http://filmesegames.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/img-411512-michael-clarke-duncan.jpg)

And one of the few men in the world that can make The Rock look small:

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/120903103832-michael-duncan-04-horizontal-gallery.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 03, 2013, 09:12:52 PM
I always thought Santa had a leaner build, in muscle and weight, than either of them.

I'll have to see if I can find the book description.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 03, 2013, 10:05:16 PM
Sanya got beeeeeeeeg, theeeeeeeeck beard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 04, 2013, 12:26:17 PM
I always thought Santa had a leaner build, in muscle and weight, than either of them.

I'll have to see if I can find the book description.
In his awesome Changes entrance he was described as
(click to show/hide)

Sanya got beeeeeeeeg, theeeeeeeeck beard.
There is no mention of a beard on him in any of the three books he appears in.  I think you might be transplanting that from the standard cultural Russian image.   
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 04, 2013, 12:56:21 PM
There is no mention of a beard on him in any of the three books he appears in.  I think you might be transplanting that from the standard cultural Russian image.   

Maybe a little, but mostly was my association of a beard with a descendant of Saala-u-Diin...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on October 04, 2013, 02:05:45 PM
Yes, I had begun imagining him looking...sorta like Harry Belafonte. Then he began "widening", so I've got confused with the image in my mind. I don't have any mental image of him now,  but he has no beard.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Reventon on October 05, 2013, 10:34:07 AM
I heart the idea of Michael Clarke Duncan for Sanya. His gentleness and constant humour being at odds with his incredible mass was just a perfect fit. RIP.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 05, 2013, 09:42:07 PM
I saw him a few times on the Jay Leno show and he seemed a kind and very gentle man.
Had to laugh.
After he appeared in Armageddon in the little leopard briefs he told Leno
he got a "talking to" from his mom.  He wasn't to do that again.....or else.
Showed a picture of him with her - she barely came up over his belt buckle.
But you knew who was in charge and it wasn't him. :D :D
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 05, 2013, 10:52:37 PM
I saw him a few times on the Jay Leno show and he seemed a kind and very gentle man.
Had to laugh.
After he appeared in Armageddon in the little leopard briefs he told Leno
he got a "talking to" from his mom.  He wasn't to do that again.....or else.
Showed a picture of him with her - she barely came up over his belt buckle.
But you knew who was in charge and it wasn't him. :D :D

Like that.  A lot.

Still think Sanya has a beard, though.  While I don't recall any text in DF saying he does, don't recall any saying he doesn't, either.

Ving Rhames would maybe work for the role if his voice was deeper.  Still gotta have full beard.  Am researching this...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 05, 2013, 11:15:28 PM
Like that.  A lot.

Still think Sanya has a beard, though.  While I don't recall any text in DF saying he does, don't recall any saying he doesn't, either.

Ving Rhames would maybe work for the role if his voice was deeper.  Still gotta have full beard.  Ivan Dixon woulda worked when he was younger, but he's gone too.  Am researching this...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: narphoenix on October 05, 2013, 11:32:25 PM
Like that.  A lot.

Still think Sanya has a beard, though.  While I don't recall any text in DF saying he does, don't recall any saying he doesn't, either.

Ving Rhames would maybe work for the role if his voice was deeper.  Still gotta have full beard.  Am researching this...

I actually usually think of Sanya as being clean shaven.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 06, 2013, 02:41:16 AM
I actually usually think of Sanya as being clean shaven.

Looks like I'm the minority opinion concerning that.  Wouldn't be the first time.

However, perhaps we can settle this:  If there are any moderators looking over our shoulders, can one of you guys ask Jim whether or not Sanya has a beard?

I'd ask myself but I don't see him coming to do book-signings in Anchorage, at least not in winter-time (unless he wants experiences to inspire future descriptions of Arctis Tor).

(({:^)>
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: narphoenix on October 06, 2013, 02:48:31 AM
Looks like I'm the minority opinion concerning that.  Wouldn't be the first time.

However, perhaps we can settle this:  If there are any moderators looking over our shoulders, can one of you guys ask Jim whether or not Sanya has a beard?

I'd ask myself but I don't see him coming to do book-signings in Anchorage, at least not in winter-time (unless he wants experiences to inspire future descriptions of Arctis Tor).

(({:^)>

Thinking about it, it's probably more likely that he has a beard, though. Most depictions of Russians seem to put them on.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 06, 2013, 02:52:23 AM
Thinking about it, it's probably more likely that he has a beard, though. Most depictions of Russians seem to put them on.

Yeah...and there's the additional factor that he's descended from Muslims.  We big on da beeeerd thing, lol.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: narphoenix on October 06, 2013, 03:11:04 AM
Yeah...and there's the additional factor that he's descended from Muslims.  We big on da beeeerd thing, lol.

Yes. I know if at least one Muslim who wore a thick beard until The Incident (9/11). Then he shaved to stubble.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 06, 2013, 09:19:37 AM
Yes. I know if at least one Muslim who wore a thick beard until The Incident (9/11). Then he shaved to stubble.

I can understand why he did, but I think it's misguided.  I never shaved my beard, never stopped wearing identifiably Muslim head-gear, clothing etc.  For one thing, as a practicing Muslima my wife didn't have the option of removing her hijjab to "blend in", unless she was willing to abandon her principles.  I wasn't gonna hide when she couldn't--that would be cowardly.

More importantly, while I've done things in my life that I'm ashamed of, being Muslim isn't one of them and never will be.  Has my refusal to go "under cover" sometimes resulted in "unpleasant" interactions with some of my non-Muslim countrymen?  Yep.  But hey, whenever that happens I just ask myself, "What would Harry do"?

PS: Yo NarPhoenix--thank you for your message (wiping tears from eyes).

God's Peace and Blessing to you my Brother.

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Fadelias on October 15, 2013, 01:46:13 PM
New here so don't mind me hehe But had to chip in on this discussion cuz it's something I ponder a lot.

I've really only ever had 2 that completely stand out for me, Dresden and Butters. (And I can't remember the actor's names sorry, and currently at work so can't surf too much of the interwebs hehe)

For Dresden I have recently thought the guy that plays Miles in Revolution is rather perfect. To me he looks exactly like how I picture Dresden, not to mention looks a lot like the cover art of the books.

For Butters, and again can't remember his name, but the guy that played a doctor/ME in the first season of True Blood. He looks exactly how I see Butters, and even sounds like him (going off the audio books of course).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on October 15, 2013, 08:00:16 PM
I want to vote for Charisma Carpenter for Lara.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 15, 2013, 11:14:38 PM
I want to vote for Charisma Carpenter for Lara.

I'd vote for Kim Kardashian on the basis of looks, but don't know if she could act.  "Posing" doesn't count.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on October 16, 2013, 05:17:23 PM
Yuck.  Yuck, yuck, yuck. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on October 16, 2013, 06:46:57 PM
^
That to the tenth power.  YUCK!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 16, 2013, 10:23:27 PM
^
That to the tenth power.  YUCK!!!!

Agreed, yuck.  Was based on physical appearance only, not on the abysmal lack of anything resembling personality, character, insight, intelligence etc etc.

To quote ol' Tricky Dick: "Let me make this perfectly clear!"
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 17, 2013, 12:04:17 AM
I'd vote for Kim Kardashian on the basis of looks, but don't know if she could act.  "Posing" doesn't count.

Harry does describe Lara as Supertart. 

Anywho, I kind of like Eva Green as Lara Raith.  I've always been a Lara=Olivia Wilde fan, but this guy's tumblr casting of Eva Green looked good.  Some of his others are hits and misses.
http://fuckyeahdiomedes.tumblr.com/post/13737469831/dresden-files-casting-lara-raith
http://fuckyeahdiomedes.tumblr.com/tagged/Dresden-Files-Casting
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: hank the ancient on October 17, 2013, 01:14:12 AM
I like his casting for Jack Murphy. Early on I had variously pictured either Aidan Quinn or a bearded Treat Williams as Michael but I don't think their current aging matches the timeline right.

I also like Bryce Dallas Howard, but for Lilly rather than Aurora. Not sure about Zoe Saldana as younger Luccio; she's a good enough actress but I don't know that the type casting matches on the dimples front. I always pictured someone that could pull off Greek/Italian so that Luccio's mannerisms wouldn't be jarring
(click to show/hide)
.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 17, 2013, 07:31:15 PM
I like his casting for Jack Murphy. Early on I had variously pictured either Aidan Quinn or a bearded Treat Williams as Michael but I don't think their current aging matches the timeline right.

I also like Bryce Dallas Howard, but for Lilly rather than Aurora. Not sure about Zoe Saldana as younger Luccio; she's a good enough actress but I don't know that the type casting matches on the dimples front. I always pictured someone that could pull off Greek/Italian so that Luccio's mannerisms wouldn't be jarring
(click to show/hide)
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Zoe Saldana doesnt work well for me, mostly because she is too...Mature? looking.  Not that at first that sounds like a bad thing, but the difference needs to be jarring, so Id go for somebody that has more of a baby-face, somebody that looks younger than their years.  And yes, somebody with dimples.  Saldana is a great actress, but doesnt have the look.  For her to work the old-Luccio would need to be extra-old by contrast, to the point were she may not be as believably formidable in a swordfight. 

BTW, I still say Jane Lynch would be perfect for old-Luccio.  As Joss Whedon once said, it's always good to cast comedians in serious roles, because comedy is the hard one.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 17, 2013, 07:54:13 PM
Zoe Saldana doesnt work well for me, mostly because she is too...Mature? looking...For her to work the old-Luccio would need to be extra-old by contrast, to the point were she may not be as believably formidable in a swordfight. 


How about this comparison: Old Luccio--Kate Mulgrew.  New Luccio: Zoe Saldana.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on October 17, 2013, 08:07:54 PM
Zoe Saldana doesnt work well for me, mostly because she is too...Mature? looking.  Not that at first that sounds like a bad thing, but the difference needs to be jarring, so Id go for somebody that has more of a baby-face, somebody that looks younger than their years.  And yes, somebody with dimples.  Saldana is a great actress, but doesnt have the look.  For her to work the old-Luccio would need to be extra-old by contrast, to the point were she may not be as believably formidable in a swordfight. 

BTW, I still say Jane Lynch would be perfect for old-Luccio.  As Joss Whedon once said, it's always good to cast comedians in serious roles, because comedy is the hard one.

Oh god.... Sgt Calhoun as Old Luccio?  That is PERFECT!  Now I'm picturing Old Luccio walking down a line of Wardens: "This is it, ladies! The kitten whispers and tickle fights end now!"  XD
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 17, 2013, 10:07:21 PM
How about this comparison: Old Luccio--Kate Mulgrew.  New Luccio: Zoe Saldana.
Not a stark enough shift for me, plus Cpt Janeway no longer looks like a person that has been fighting in the front lines of a war for 4ish years.  I picture somebody that is shriveled and thin but vibrant enough that you could believe it still hides wiry strength. Somebody who is older in the face than the body
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: phoenixjustice on October 17, 2013, 10:07:59 PM
I still say that Mark A. Sheppard would be the perfect Nicodemus; charisma for days!

(http://static.tvgcdn.net/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/S_Z/Suj_Sz/Supernatural/season5/supernatural-274.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 17, 2013, 10:09:19 PM
I still say that Mark A. Sheppard would be the perfect Nicodemus; charisma for days!

(http://static.tvgcdn.net/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/S_Z/Suj_Sz/Supernatural/season5/supernatural-274.jpg)
Not bad for 90% of nic's scenes, and he certainly can do the gentlman Devil, but Im not sure Id buy him going medieval on the top of a train swordfighting two at once.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cantthinkofaname1029 on October 18, 2013, 02:08:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD898jIzwJs

I believe the people being casted here actually make for fantastic choices for the cast, particularly for harry. Even Lea seemed well off, and she's hard to visualize and typecast. The only one who struck me as being off was Mab's actress.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 18, 2013, 02:09:56 AM
Not bad for 90% of nic's scenes, and he certainly can do the gentlman Devil, but Im not sure Id buy him going medieval on the top of a train swordfighting two at once.

That would probably be done by stunts and CG anyway.  But I like Lani Tupu better for Nicodemus.  He's also be just as good as Donald Morgan.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 18, 2013, 01:23:55 PM
I actually just started thinking that Mark Pellegrino might be great for Nic.  He doesnt really look like how I picture Nic at all (thought with the right costumes and make-up he might get close) but in the last two things Ive seen him in (The Tomorrow People and Being Human) he has played a sort of villain that quiet, calm, even polite, while somehow radiating the sort of frighteningly rational evil and amorality that I get from Nic. 
(http://www.tomorrowpeopletv.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Mark-Pellegrino.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: bellmaker on October 18, 2013, 03:55:57 PM
Quote
I still say that Mark A. Sheppard would be the perfect Nicodemus; charisma for days!

Much better for Binder IMHO
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 18, 2013, 04:55:41 PM
I actually just started thinking that Mark Pellegrino might be great for Nic.  He doesnt really look like how I picture Nic at all (thought with the right costumes and make-up he might get close) but in the last two things Ive seen him in (The Tomorrow People and Being Human) he has played a sort of villain that quiet, calm, even polite, while somehow radiating the sort of frighteningly rational evil and amorality that I get from Nic. 
(http://www.tomorrowpeopletv.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Mark-Pellegrino.jpg)

I think Mark Pellegrino is great at the subtle, quiet bad guy.  He did the same on Supernatural.  But I'm not sure he's quite what I picture for Nic. 

I'd rather cast him in a subtly big role, like Gregori Cristos. 
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 20, 2013, 10:50:26 AM
Reason I still hold out for Lani Tupu as either Nicodemus or Morgan is because in Farscape LT looked just like I pictured Morgan in particular.  Trim beard, pony-tail, stern features and attitude.

And then, quite involuntarily, the same image was superimposed whenever I was reading about Nicodemus.  And the image has just STUCK there for both roles, despite the fact that I think I've read "Turncoat" at least four times, and all the others at least three (Deadbeat five or six times).

Can no more escape that mental image than I can that of Jim Carey in yellow Grinch makeup as the Naagloshii.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: phoenixjustice on October 21, 2013, 07:28:35 AM
Much better for Binder IMHO

Oh wow didn't even think of Binder. Oh he'd be great for Binder. But I just have a hard time seeing many people as Nicodemus. You have to have a certain charisma for the role, which I think Mark Sheppard has.

I actually just started thinking that Mark Pellegrino might be great for Nic.  He doesnt really look like how I picture Nic at all (thought with the right costumes and make-up he might get close) but in the last two things Ive seen him in (The Tomorrow People and Being Human) he has played a sort of villain that quiet, calm, even polite, while somehow radiating the sort of frighteningly rational evil and amorality that I get from Nic. 
(http://www.tomorrowpeopletv.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Mark-Pellegrino.jpg)

I liked him a lot as Lucifer in Supernatural. He's not how I picture Nic at all either, but he could probably get Nic's charisma down.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 27, 2013, 12:55:07 AM
Oh wow didn't even think of Binder. Oh he'd be great for Binder. But I just have a hard time seeing many people as Nicodemus. You have to have a certain charisma for the role, which I think Mark Sheppard has.

I liked him a lot as Lucifer in Supernatural. He's not how I picture Nic at all either, but he could probably get Nic's charisma down.

Sorry, that role's picked out for the guy who played "Badger" in the firefly series...

(({;^)>
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 28, 2013, 12:28:41 PM
Sorry, that role's picked out for the guy who played "Badger" in the firefly series...

(({;^)>
That /is/ Mark Sheppard ;)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: fantazero on October 28, 2013, 05:14:07 PM
(http://img.ezinemark.com/imagemanager2/files/30011306/2012/01/2012-01-10-14-44-38-6-the-32-year-old-actor-aaron-paul-who-won-an-emmy.jpeg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on October 28, 2013, 06:28:38 PM
(http://img.ezinemark.com/imagemanager2/files/30011306/2012/01/2012-01-10-14-44-38-6-the-32-year-old-actor-aaron-paul-who-won-an-emmy.jpeg)
Who are you thinking for him?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 28, 2013, 08:53:35 PM
Who are you thinking for him?

Binder.  Put a derby on him.  it fits.  OOPS.  Didn't get that the guy picked for Nicodemus was Mark Sheppard, LOL (didn't know his name when I first nominated him for Binder).
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 29, 2013, 03:47:52 PM
Colin Morgan as Waldo Butters?

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs46/i/2009/218/c/1/Meeting_Colin_Morgan_by_lunamaxwell.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on October 29, 2013, 04:01:15 PM
And  I present you with ... Andi.

(http://jimmyaquino.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c09fc53ef017eeaa5d7ac970d-320wi)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on October 29, 2013, 08:33:38 PM
Now THAT just made my day!
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on October 30, 2013, 09:09:43 PM
And  I present you with ... Andi.

(http://jimmyaquino.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c09fc53ef017eeaa5d7ac970d-320wi)

Who is this?  She looks familiar, but I can't quite seem to put a name to her...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Rasins on October 30, 2013, 09:36:56 PM
She is the new Wendy's girl.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Wizard H on October 30, 2013, 10:02:01 PM
That's where I've seen here before!  Thanks, that was really bugging me. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: AndiSue on November 11, 2013, 06:42:46 PM
I have a new (I think...to me at least) submission for Harry Dresden.  Comedian Chris D'Elia.  He's got the personality/sarcasm/wit.  He's 6'3" (I know Harry is taller, but how many 6'6"-6'8" actors are there?) and seems to have the right build.
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTM2MTAxMzAzNl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTMxMzk0NA@@._V1._SX640_SY960_.jpg)
(http://chrisdelia.com/i/mobley.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 11, 2013, 06:49:31 PM
I have a new (I think...to me at least) submission for Harry Dresden.  Comedian Chris D'Elia.  He's got the personality/sarcasm/wit.  He's 6'3" (I know Harry is taller, but how many 6'6"-6'8" actors are there?) and seems to have the right build.
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTM2MTAxMzAzNl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTMxMzk0NA@@._V1._SX640_SY960_.jpg)
(http://chrisdelia.com/i/mobley.jpg)
Not familiar with the guy himself.  From you rpost Id say 6'3" is close enough so long as they highlight his beanpoll status a bit and/or make sure to cast a short murphy.  But the face to too rounded for the sharp, angular features I imagine on Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: AndiSue on November 11, 2013, 06:57:34 PM
Not familiar with the guy himself.  From you rpost Id say 6'3" is close enough so long as they highlight his beanpoll status a bit and/or make sure to cast a short murphy.  But the face to too rounded for the sharp, angular features I imagine on Harry.
He could lose a few pounds for the role :-)  This is some of his standup (WARNING: May be somewhat offensive to some...there are swear words): http://youtu.be/7d-TkmL5BGs  My favorite is the part about the Germans (starts at about 1:45).  He was also on the TV show Whitney.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 11, 2013, 07:00:57 PM
I saw pictures, and I would accept him based on his looks. I haven't seen him playing so no opinion about that.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 11, 2013, 07:03:37 PM
I have a new (I think...to me at least) submission for Harry Dresden.  Comedian Chris D'Elia.  He's got the personality/sarcasm/wit.  He's 6'3" (I know Harry is taller, but how many 6'6"-6'8" actors are there?) and seems to have the right build.
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTM2MTAxMzAzNl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTMxMzk0NA@@._V1._SX640_SY960_.jpg)
(http://chrisdelia.com/i/mobley.jpg)
Did you see him on Whitney?  I know there were issues with the show, but I thought he did a good job.  But I don't think I see him as Harry.

My stand-up comedian of choice for Harry is Jeff Dye.   

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly0elyqi6v1qbf94zo1_500.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/3001218186_465d14340a.jpg)

(http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/82/1fc2a443ebbc0e03f1d63ace721d4a0e/l.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 11, 2013, 07:10:14 PM
Warning: RANT.
I just saw there is a "perfect casting part 3" thread. I am upset. I consider it superfluous and, frankly, quite rude to all people posting here. And given the problem with the poster who was claiming for a new thread, I see it as a hit in the face.  I would have said this in that thread, but I don't really want to participate in it, so this is the next best thing.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 11, 2013, 07:16:07 PM
ya, saw that.  What can ya do... :-\
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: AndiSue on November 11, 2013, 07:18:20 PM
Yes, I did see Chris D'Elia in Whitney and I always liked him in it.

I'm somewhat familiar with Jeff Dye...I'm not sure I "see" him as Harry, though.  He seems too young and not dark enough.  But hey...to each his own.  That's the fun of fantasy casting!

On a somewhat-related topic, I recently marathon-watched Season 1 of Arrow on Netflix and amused myself by imagining what Quentin Lance would do if Blackthorne could have brought the Dresden-powers to the role.

Did you see him on Whitney?  I know there were issues with the show, but I thought he did a good job.  But I don't think I see him as Harry.

My stand-up comedian of choice for Harry is Jeff Dye.   

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly0elyqi6v1qbf94zo1_500.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/3001218186_465d14340a.jpg)

(http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/82/1fc2a443ebbc0e03f1d63ace721d4a0e/l.jpg)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 11, 2013, 07:25:10 PM
Yes, I did see Chris D'Elia in Whitney and I always liked him in it.

I'm somewhat familiar with Jeff Dye...I'm not sure I "see" him as Harry, though.  He seems too young and not dark enough.  But hey...to each his own.  That's the fun of fantasy casting!

On a somewhat-related topic, I recently marathon-watched Season 1 of Arrow on Netflix and amused myself by imagining what Quentin Lance would do if Blackthorne could have brought the Dresden-powers to the role.
I prefer to imagine what would happen if Lance were confronted with Harry (ie a magical and non-alcoholic version of himself) :P
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 11, 2013, 07:29:10 PM
I imagine the powers of a real daughter of Dresden and River Song.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: AndiSue on November 11, 2013, 07:44:10 PM
I prefer to imagine what would happen if Lance were confronted with Harry (ie a magical and non-alcoholic version of himself) :P
Oooo...interesting...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 11, 2013, 07:48:24 PM
Especially in the first season when their opposite views on the sanctity of the Law could be fun to play with.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: AndiSue on November 11, 2013, 07:50:29 PM
Especially in the first season when their opposite views on the sanctity of the Law could be fun to play with.
Maybe we need a fantasy crossover thread...
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 11, 2013, 07:51:20 PM
Yes. Lance was Murphy alike, so it would be very funny.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 11, 2013, 07:57:42 PM
Maybe we need a fantasy crossover thread...
www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,39677.0.html (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,39677.0.html)

Done  8)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: acousticnicki on November 12, 2013, 01:29:03 PM
Just saw Jim at Faeriecon this weekend & he answered that his perfect casting for Harry would be Fassbender or Hiddleston.  Either could also be Thomas.    I hadn't thought of those two, but knowing Jim's preference puts them in a whole new light ha ha. :)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Quantus on November 12, 2013, 02:12:23 PM
Just saw Jim at Faeriecon this weekend & he answered that his perfect casting for Harry would be Fassbender or Hiddleston.  Either could also be Thomas.    I hadn't thought of those two, but knowing Jim's preference puts them in a whole new light ha ha. :)
AHA!!  Ive been pushing Fassbender for a while now, glad Im not the only one.  Also good because Jim used to say Alexis Denisof for Harry, and I was never able to get behind that one (probably the buffy influence). 

Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Ziggelly on November 12, 2013, 06:04:38 PM
Yeah, Alexis Denisof tends to sort of project this vibe of covering up some bone-deep social insecurity with loads of false confidence. I don't really picture Harry as being quite so... so... smarmy? Is that the word I'm looking for?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 12, 2013, 06:08:13 PM
I can't see Fassbender or Hiddleston as Harry or Thomas  :(. I think those actors are great, but they don't look like nothing of what I imagine.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on November 12, 2013, 07:34:12 PM
Warning: RANT.
I just saw there is a "perfect casting part 3" thread. I am upset. I consider it superfluous and, frankly, quite rude to all people posting here. And given the problem with the poster who was claiming for a new thread, I see it as a hit in the face.  I would have said this in that thread, but I don't really want to participate in it, so this is the next best thing.

Didn't intend it that way.  I was new to this forum when I started it, and there hadn't been any new posts on this one for a long time when I did.  I do apologize.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 12, 2013, 07:44:05 PM
I think Fassbender might be my favorite actor of the moment.  I thought he was great in X-Men First Class and Prometheus.  I had a hard time picturing him as Harry, but that was because I was so used to him being a blonde.  But with dark hair, his height, at 6', would be the only limiting factor to me.  I know JB has said a young Harrison Ford in the past would be ideal for Harry, and Ford was only ever 6'1".  So height doesn't seem to be the limiting factor to JB that it is to a lot of us.  But at a Hollywood 6', Fassbender might be 5'10" or 11", plus heals.

So... Harry?
(http://hollywoodhatesme.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/michael_fassbender-x_men_first_class.jpg)

Or Thomas?  With Hamm as his father, Lord Raith?
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li5zctDLyN1qgngcgo1_400.jpg)
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6415422464/hC5A0CD71/)

Kincaid?
(http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww115/SerasVictoria29/2010/tumblr_le9fnsgUHJ1qa3z8ro1_500.jpg)

Nicodemus?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1HvHgLHUEE0/TvkBtg3CRVI/AAAAAAAADS8/lhl59RwENaM/s1600/session004-03.jpg)

Marcone?
(http://comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/10300/289378172167182.jpg)

Michael?
(http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/wenn3921393.jpg)

Ferrovax?
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f7/96/61/f79661873e7cfdc3d2ace381441fcdbb.jpg)

Chauncy?
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2TjYc20zUUiTmkyoZ6kRrTsnEv7SuNTUs56v95KvkzS4NAlzT)
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Snowleopard on November 12, 2013, 07:48:38 PM
Er, not to be, not sure what to call it, but in my opinion all those guys
look pretty much alike when you break it down to basics.

I do like the guy for Ferrovax.
And I think Nicodemus should be an older man.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: cass on November 12, 2013, 07:57:11 PM
I think Fassbender might be my favorite actor of the moment.  I thought he was great in X-Men First Class and Prometheus.  I had a hard time picturing him as Harry, but that was because I was so used to him being a blonde.  But with dark hair, his height, at 6', would be the only limiting factor to me.  I know JB has said a young Harrison Ford in the past would be ideal for Harry, and Ford was only ever 6'1".  So height doesn't seem to be the limiting factor to JB that it is to a lot of us.  But at a Hollywood 6', Fassbender might be 5'10" or 11", plus heals.

Hollywood can do wonders with camera angles and shots to make someone appear much taller (or shorter) than they actually are, so I wouldn't worry too much about height. Other than that, I'm with Snowleopard: I'm not sure I'd be able to tell them apart.....
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on November 12, 2013, 08:06:38 PM
I agree.  Who is the guy for Ferrovax?
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Dina on November 12, 2013, 08:46:56 PM
They are all the same.
I would accept him as Kinkaid, Lord Raith and even Nicodemus. Too beautiful for Harry, not so beautiful for Thomas, not so nice for Michael. The others, meh.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Chiana on November 12, 2013, 08:54:04 PM
That's the same guy?  Wow.  I agree that he looks to pretty for Harry.
Title: Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
Post by: Griffyn612 on November 12, 2013, 10:15:06 PM
They are all the same.
I would accept him as Kinkaid, Lord Raith and even Nicodemus. Too beautiful for Harry, not so beautiful for Thomas, not so nice for Michael. The others, meh.
Yeah, I think he plays a villain too well to not take advantage of it. 

I do like the guy for Ferrovax.
I think he'd make a very good Ferrovax.  I think he could pull a very heavy part.  And Ferrovax would have to have weight to him, on screen.  He has an impact in front of the camera in most of his roles.

They are all the same.
I would accept him as Kinkaid, Lord Raith and even Nicodemus. Too beautiful for Harry, not so beautiful for Thomas, not so nice for Michael. The others, meh.
I think he could have a good cocky attitude for Kincaid.  Especially needling Harry.  I think you'd be surprised how dark he can appear, and would also bring a good Nicodemus to the table.  But I'll admit he's not my first choice, nor how I imagine Nico.

That's the same guy?  Wow.  I agree that he looks to pretty for Harry.
Yeah, he's gained a lot of recognition lately for his range in roles and ability.  But I go back and forth on how pretty Harry should be.  Obviously he's good looking enough that girls aren't avoiding him.  I have a hard time figuring out what is the proper balance for Harry for women.  Some want him almost as pretty as Thomas, while others seem to want him missing only two or three branches falling out of the ugly tree.