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Title: names for other Outsiders
Post by: vampmike on May 22, 2009, 12:33:44 PM
im working on a plot revolvoing around the reapearance of the London Smog, in 1952 it killed 4,000 people and overall was resposable for over 12,000 deaths and made over 100,000 people ill. the idea is the smog is the physical form of one of the Outsiders.

but trying to come up with a cool sounding name is beyond me lol. i love the name 'He who walks behind', and in my opinion all the outsiders should have names like this.

so i would love to see what ideas people have got for names for the Outsiders?
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: blackstoneca on May 22, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
How about  "Breath that is stolen away"
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: seekmore on May 24, 2009, 11:52:28 PM
Quote from: vampmike on May 22, 2009, 12:33:44 PM
im working on a plot revolvoing around the reapearance of the London Smog, in 1952 it killed 4,000 people and overall was resposable for over 12,000 deaths and made over 100,000 people ill. the idea is the smog is the physical form of one of the Outsiders.

but trying to come up with a cool sounding name is beyond me lol. i love the name 'He who walks behind', and in my opinion all the outsiders should have names like this.

so i would love to see what ideas people have got for names for the Outsiders?

S/He Who Blackens the Wind
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Myyrdn Eopia on May 25, 2009, 12:22:22 AM
Just to keep in mind when creating names, the only Outsider that we know of for certain is He Who Walks Behind.  And he was the primary hit-man, if you will, for whoever he served.  Course, all the names could be similar.  It's my bet however, that there is some variation.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Myyrdn Eopia on May 25, 2009, 12:28:18 AM
He That Fouls The Air?   or she
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: rosco125 on May 25, 2009, 12:51:29 AM
How about  "He who has gas"
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Myyrdn Eopia on May 25, 2009, 02:22:43 AM
haha, I like.  could be harry's nickname for it, if he ever encountered it.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Dan from Chicago on May 25, 2009, 04:00:22 PM
He who steals your breath
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: T.R.C.C. on May 25, 2009, 06:11:45 PM
She that smothers gently.
He who caters the befouled air.
She of the chokend fog.
He that presses down soot.
She who forms the deadliest breath.
He of the heavily closed throat.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: PapaBear on May 26, 2009, 07:20:37 AM
She Who Crawls Above
He Who Rends
He That Sees Sideways


Name the Outsider after its purpose.

So far, He Who Walks Behind has acted like an assassin type being, so the name is appropriate Walking behind being related to being unseen or stalking. HWWB is also in service to a higher being ala "walking behind" said being. In my opinion, at least.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Myyrdn Eopia on May 26, 2009, 11:51:19 AM
He was described by Lash in White Night as the elite among those that served the ruling entities of the Outsiders.  Don't have the book on hand, so no exact quote until I get home this afternoon.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: johntfs on May 28, 2009, 05:28:06 AM
Just a few names to toss out there:

The Bleeding Angel

Cold Eternity

The Razorkind (a group of Outsider Minion)

Mother Night

The Twisted Mirror

The Weeping Filth

The Womb of Sorrow

Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Valarian on May 28, 2009, 08:58:26 PM
How about some of the classical outsiders ...
The Great Tentacled One (Cthulhu)
The Crawling Chaos (Nyarlathotep)
The Great Old One (Hastur)
The Opener of the Way (Yog Sothoth)

A fitting one:
The Nameless Mist (Nyog Sothep)
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Myyrdn Eopia on May 29, 2009, 05:05:34 PM
Hey all, sorry I forgot about my post above, I've been busy, but I have the reference to the Outsiders in White Night for you.

p. 363, bottom.  hardcover edition


Lasciel leaned closer.  "He Who Walks Behind is an Outsider, Harry.  A terrible creature, the most potent of the Walkers, a powerful knight among their ruling entities.  But when he came for you, you overthrew him."
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: vultur on June 02, 2009, 07:39:51 PM
Quote from: Myyrdn Eopia on May 29, 2009, 05:05:34 PM
A terrible creature, the most potent of the Walkers, a powerful knight among their ruling entities. 

This sure sounds like it's implying that "Walkers" are a particular subclass of Outsiders - maybe a different type of being, or maybe just a job. I wonder if the Walkers are equivalent to the "knights" of the Outsiders?

For a smog-Outsider, I might use "He/She Who Darkens The Sky".
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: johntfs on June 09, 2009, 04:24:30 AM
Quote from: Valarian on May 28, 2009, 08:58:26 PM
How about some of the classical outsiders ...
The Great Tentacled One (Cthulhu)
The Crawling Chaos (Nyarlathotep)
The Great Old One (Hastur)
The Opener of the Way (Yog Sothoth)

A fitting one:
The Nameless Mist (Nyog Sothep)


My biggest problem is that those names are just too well known and come off as cheesy and cliche.  Sort of like using orcs as villains in a fantasy book or Nazis in a thriller.  What you want to do (and what I tried to do) is come up with names that are disturbing and scary without overtly bringing in Lovecraft or his mythos.  Read some early Clive Barker (especially Weaveworld) for more inspiration.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Otlan on June 10, 2009, 03:35:28 PM
He who Smother, or, She Of The Razor Mist.

Call me Crazy, but I think Harry Might have made a Pact with an Outsider. I'm not sure how meany people have Read Turn Coat, and so i shall say no more on the subject.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: johntfs on June 10, 2009, 05:21:56 PM
Quote from: Otlan on June 10, 2009, 03:35:28 PM
He who Smother, or, She Of The Razor Mist.

Call me Crazy, but I think Harry Might have made a Pact with an Outsider. I'm not sure how meany people have Read Turn Coat, and so i shall say no more on the subject.

You're crazy.

Seriously, though, consider who Harry told about the pact and what their reaction was (ie, not immediately chopping Harry's head off for breaking the laws of Magic).  The spirit in question is extremely powerful and possibly malevolent, but not an Outsider.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Otlan on June 10, 2009, 06:30:12 PM
Why are you Stating the Obvious ??? ?

I'm just saying, it's a possibility. THINK about it, GK went toe to toe with this thing. He didn't kill it, but he gave it a good wound, same go's for GK. I don't know, this thing just SCREAMS Outsider to me...
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Sebastian on June 11, 2009, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: Otlan on June 10, 2009, 06:30:12 PM
Why are you Stating the Obvious ??? ?

I'm just saying, it's a possibility. THINK about it, GK went toe to toe with this thing. He didn't kill it, but he gave it a good wound, same go's for GK. I don't know, this thing just SCREAMS Outsider to me...

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Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Otlan on June 11, 2009, 02:06:03 PM
Well that's pretty Obvieous. He is the
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And also something for you to think about. This thing, whatever the heck he is,
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If he's not an Outsider, then what the heck eles could he be. Nothing About Him Implyes Demon, if anything, he remineds me more of the Erl King.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: seekmore on June 11, 2009, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: Sebastian on June 11, 2009, 01:32:26 PM
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I don't know if you know, but....

Jim has stated the reason Demonreach has a limp is because of the damage the glacier did to the land as it passed over and carved out Lake Michigan, not because of any action Rashid may have taken.

Demonreach and Rashid just don't get along.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Sebastian on June 12, 2009, 09:11:56 AM
Quote from: seekmore on June 11, 2009, 05:37:00 PM
I don't know if you know, but....

Jim has stated the reason Demonreach has a limp is because of the damage the glacier did to the land as it passed over and carved out Lake Michigan, not because of any action Rashid may have taken.

Demonreach and Rashid just don't get along.

The glacier is the result of an ice-age... which is kind of Mab's fault. Does that mean taking up the mantle of winter knight would adversely affect how Harry and Demonreach get along?
 lol
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Otlan on June 12, 2009, 03:37:27 PM
Quote from: Sebastian on June 12, 2009, 09:11:56 AM
The glacier is the result of an ice-age... which is kind of Mab's fault. Does that mean taking up the mantle of winter knight would adversely affect how Harry and Demonreach get along?
 lol

It's a Distinict Possability.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: seekmore on June 12, 2009, 06:02:16 PM
Quote from: Sebastian on June 12, 2009, 09:11:56 AM
The glacier is the result of an ice-age... which is kind of Mab's fault. Does that mean taking up the mantle of winter knight would adversely affect how Harry and Demonreach get along?

I don't think we should attribute every natural phenomenon to conflict between the Faerie courts.

In fact, our weather was only adversely affected when Summer and Winter went to war while one was substantially less powerful than the other.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Otlan on June 13, 2009, 06:28:04 PM
And if you will remmeber, if the former Summer Lady's plan had succeded, it would have plumeted the world into another Ice Age.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: seekmore on June 13, 2009, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: Otlan on June 13, 2009, 06:28:04 PM
And if you will remmeber, if the former Summer Lady's plan had succeded, it would have plumeted the world into another Ice Age.

Because, in keeping with the point I made, the missing portion of Summer's power would have become part of Winter, further unbalancing the Courts.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Otlan on June 14, 2009, 02:10:29 AM
Quote from: seekmore on June 13, 2009, 09:52:45 PM
Because, in keeping with the point I made, the missing portion of Summer's power would have become part of Winter, further unbalancing the Courts.

Yes that's true. But this kind of proves that the whole Glacier thing is a vary liklly possabilty.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: seekmore on June 14, 2009, 02:12:00 AM
Quote from: Otlan on June 14, 2009, 02:10:29 AM
Yes that's true. But this kind of proves that the whole Glacier thing is a vary liklly possabilty.

Which would mean that, for an incredibly long period of time, Winter was drastically more powerful than Summer, which doesn't really keep in with what we know of the Courts.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Otlan on June 14, 2009, 07:24:33 PM
But it's not the frist time Earth has excperinced an Ice Age. And it's also not the frist time earth has expreinced wamer weather too. This mean that the courts weren't always in Balnece to start with. And Remember, they may live for a vary long time, but I doubt vary much that Mad and Tatiana were the frist Rulers of the Winter and Summer Courts.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: seekmore on June 15, 2009, 01:38:52 AM
Quote from: Otlan on June 14, 2009, 07:24:33 PM
But it's not the frist time Earth has excperinced an Ice Age. And it's also not the frist time earth has expreinced wamer weather too. This mean that the courts weren't always in Balnece to start with.

I think you are missing my point.

My point is that it seems silly to assume that every natural weather phenomenon is the result of the political struggle in Faerie.
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Otlan on June 15, 2009, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: seekmore on June 15, 2009, 01:38:52 AM
I think you are missing my point.

My point is that it seems silly to assume that every natural weather phenomenon is the result of the political struggle in Faerie.

I know what your point is, I'm just haveing fun Arguing with you ;D .
Title: Re: names for other Outsiders
Post by: Aluman on August 24, 2009, 04:04:03 AM
In an attempt to pull the thread back onto task:

Since we know that the Walkers are a type, perhaps the first step in coming up with a name for outsiders is to come up with types.

Walkers - Physical brutish types (from He Who Walks Behind)
Watchers/Weavers - Plotters and Planners