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Title: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: groinkick on February 02, 2018, 09:33:08 PM
What are your thoughts?  If he was to have one, who do you think it would be? 
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: peregrine on February 02, 2018, 11:07:26 PM
A Godfather seems redundant with a Godmother.  They both do the same thing, yes?

Plus, Lea probably wouldn't care for the competition.

If he does, I imagine it'd be someone on Malcom's side, just for the symmetry.  That would also explain why Harry doesn't know about him.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: wardenferry419 on February 03, 2018, 12:00:54 AM
Due to Lea's personality, I doubt there were any volunteers.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: raidem on February 03, 2018, 12:10:35 AM
I was wondering recently about Lea and when we will find out who her progeny are.

I know I have wondered in the past about Lea being related to Harry via Maggie Sr and McCoy.  See the conversation between McCoy, Harry, Lea at the end of Changes.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: groinkick on February 03, 2018, 04:54:03 AM
A Godfather seems redundant with a Godmother.  They both do the same thing, yes?

No...  Well it depends.  I could see Jim thinking it funny, and very much with the lore for Harry to have a "fairy" godmother.  However in the religious tradition there is a godmother, and godfather.  I'm leaning towards the fairy godmother angle but a godfather seems possible as well.  If Maggie chose his godmother it would make sense that his father chose the godfather....  Perhaps Marcone?  It's like something from the Godfather movie which I could see Jim laughing at as well...  Also we could get a "Harry I am your godfather" with Harry screaming "nooooooooooooooooooo" Star Wars style.... 

We could also see that Marcone has appeared as an adversary to Harry but may actually have been trying to protect Harry in a twisted sort of way...  Like if he is his godfather but also bound to keep it secret.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: Rasins on February 03, 2018, 05:07:15 AM
Wouldn't it be really funny if it turned out that Cowl was Harry's Godfather?
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: groinkick on February 03, 2018, 05:14:27 AM
Wouldn't it be really funny if it turned out that Cowl was Harry's Godfather?

No connection (for me as a reader) to Cowl...  So it would be underwhelming at this point.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: Rasins on February 03, 2018, 05:21:29 AM
No connection (for me as a reader) to Cowl...  So it would be underwhelming at this point.

No connection that we know of.  For all we know it could be someone Maggie Sr. asked to look over her son, before he'd gone dark side.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: groinkick on February 03, 2018, 05:34:43 AM
No connection that we know of.  For all we know it could be someone Maggie Sr. asked to look over her son, before he'd gone dark side.

No I meant that I don't feel a connection as a reader to Cowl...  He hasn't had enough face time for me to feel connected enough to care.  Of course if it turns out another character we see more often is in fact Cowl that would change things for me.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: Rasins on February 03, 2018, 06:11:40 AM
Ah ... gotcha.  I totally get that.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on February 03, 2018, 09:00:14 AM
Maybe I am reading something wrong; but, most times Cowl talks and acts like the angriest person on the planet. Except for when Harry summoned and contained the Erlking. Then, he was only sarcastic and maybe gave Harry a slight nod of approval. Just a passing thought.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: Bacchus on February 03, 2018, 04:34:25 PM
the gatekeeper seems to pop up to help and look after dresden from time to time and he was friendly at least with maggie SR because of them both walking the ways so much.
i could see her asking him to look out for her son.
of course that would be a bit weird because he would have totally dropped the ball from age 6-16 and he doesnt seem to watch out for her other son.

edit: anyone with a normal set of morals wouldnt work because of how harry was left to suffer from 6-16 while leah probably just thought that being a unloved orphan was the perfect way to toughen him up before wizard training.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: groinkick on February 03, 2018, 07:07:58 PM
edit: anyone with a normal set of morals wouldnt work because of how harry was left to suffer from 6-16 while leah probably just thought that being a unloved orphan was the perfect way to toughen him up before wizard training.

Justin was a respected member of the White Council, and a Warden.  It's doubtful that it was common knowledge that Harry was suffering.  As a matter of fact Harry wasn't really suffering I don't think.  It wasn't until the betrayal from Justin that Harry's world was turned upside down.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: forumghost on February 03, 2018, 10:00:19 PM
Point of Order but Justin didn't adopt Harry until his magic manifested at around 12- Before that he was languishing in the System for years.

Also, nobody in the council even knew Justin had an apprentice until he murdered the man and burnt his house down.
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Post by: exartiem on February 03, 2018, 11:43:46 PM
Vadderung?
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: groinkick on February 04, 2018, 06:05:58 AM
Before that he was languishing in the System for years.

Good point, I forgot about that.  It's possible that for whatever reason the Godfather was unable to locate Harry because of some sort of intervention (Justin and Co).

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Vadderung?

lol Santa Clause as your Godfather?  That would be pretty epic.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: Rasins on February 04, 2018, 10:31:37 AM
I could see The Gatekeeper. He is gone for long periods of time.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: forumghost on February 04, 2018, 12:28:09 PM
TBH I agree with what peregrine said:

A Godfather seems redundant with a Godmother.  They both do the same thing, yes?

Plus, Lea probably wouldn't care for the competition.

Lea would probably take the existence of a Godfather as (at best) a slight on her abilities and at worst a obstacle in claiming on her investment, so I doubt that there was one- and even if there was before, she probably... took steps.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: exartiem on February 04, 2018, 07:46:59 PM
I could see The Gatekeeper. He is gone for long periods of time.

This would make sense, as they were fellow explorers of the Ways and would meet for coffee or such frequently.
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: pcpoet on February 04, 2018, 07:48:28 PM
his god father is John macron of course
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: Quantus on February 07, 2018, 01:55:12 PM
Maggie gave Harry a Godmother for practical reasons, as a matter of survival (Starborn Mysteries notwithstanding) which is why WOJ says she didnt bother arranging on for Thomas.  So the question on a Godfather becomes: Why Bother?  What would the debt of a Godfather get her/Harry that having the Leanansidhe as his Godmother fail to do?
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: Rasins on February 07, 2018, 05:33:48 PM
And, well, Maggie Jr. now has a Fairy Godmother now too. LOL
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: peregrine on February 07, 2018, 06:38:18 PM
And, well, Maggie Jr. now has a Fairy Godmother now too. LOL
Who?
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: Rasins on February 07, 2018, 07:19:30 PM
Molly
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: pcpoet on February 08, 2018, 05:58:37 AM
lets not forget that Maggie is also now a fairy  princes. because her father is considered consort to the queen
Title: Re: Harry's Godmother is Leah.... May he have a Godfather as well?
Post by: Quantus on February 08, 2018, 10:57:20 AM
lets not forget that Maggie is also now a fairy  princes. because her father is considered consort to the queen
I really dont think it would work that way.  Being a Consort is a far cry from being a Prince or actual nobility; it's more of a Captain of the Guard that you can occasionally bang or dress up for formal functions.  But he only barely gets any authority of his own, and it certainly wouldnt spread out to his mortal family or associates.  And if the fairies ever try to make that argument, he should be very very scared of whatever they have planned.