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Title: Whose memoir would you read?
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 29, 2017, 10:37:41 AM
I am going with Maggie Sr. Because I see her as the catalyst to all book problems. Though, I am sure Michael's would be insprational.
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Post by: Arjan on November 29, 2017, 12:17:18 PM
 Really it depends how well written they are.  :)
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Post by: wardenferry419 on November 29, 2017, 10:44:22 PM
What if they were autobiographical?
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Post by: jonas on November 29, 2017, 10:45:52 PM
Silly Warden, we're already reading the original Merlin's Memoirs ;p

*Kemmler, I wanna know what he knew.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on November 29, 2017, 11:40:48 PM
Silly Warden, we're already reading the original Merlin's Memoirs ;p

*Kemmler, I wanna know what he knew.
Yep, silly me, I forgot about the cyclic nature of Harry's life.
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Post by: peregrine on November 30, 2017, 01:37:47 AM
Morgan
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Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on November 30, 2017, 02:33:17 AM
I'd rather not have any, because part of what makes the series worth having for me, longer term, is the pacing of what Harry finds out, when he finds it out, and how it fits together and changes what we and he knew before.  I am generally not fond of the short stories from other viewpoints and can't say I feel the whole body of DV text would lose much if it did not have them (though I might feel differently if there were any - and I have not read all of them - which had focuses in entirely separate bits of the DV from Harry.)
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Post by: khadgar4606 on November 30, 2017, 07:48:44 AM
well i want atleast mouse and misters based books to freshen up the series also books were marcone and nicolodemus would be appreciated since both man are whole different ball game then wizard/ private investigator/ knight of plot harry's perspective
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Post by: Arjan on November 30, 2017, 07:55:37 AM
I was just assuming we got the memoirs after the series was completed because the memoirs of Mister will give away too much.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on November 30, 2017, 10:15:49 AM
I usually enjoy the short stories. Especially the funny misadventure ones.
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Post by: Rasins on November 30, 2017, 06:01:32 PM
Nicodemus - I'd like to see the historical record, and to better understand the reasons behind his choices.
Lara - the SEX
Maggie Sr - To see how exactly she was redeemed
And Kemmler - similar to Nicodemus'.  See why he did what he did.  And to prove my theory about Rashid and Demonreach.
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Post by: jonas on November 30, 2017, 06:10:36 PM
Nicodemus - I'd like to see the historical record, and to better understand the reasons behind his choices.
Lara - the SEX
Maggie Sr - To see how exactly she was redeemed
And Kemmler - similar to Nicodemus'.  See why he did what he did.  And to prove my theory about Rashid and Demonreach.
I didn't know you had one, give me a short hand version?
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Post by: groinkick on November 30, 2017, 06:19:15 PM
Lord Raith...  That would be very interesting to read.  It would not be boring.  It would be filled with lots of eroticism, deceit, eroticism, power plays, eroticism, murder, oh and it would also have eroticism. 

It would be like reading about an immortal, sexually turbo charged Lex Luthor.
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Post by: jonas on November 30, 2017, 06:26:40 PM
Lord Raith...  That would be very interesting to read.  It would not be boring.  It would be filled with lots of eroticism, deceit, eroticism, power plays, eroticism, murder, oh and it would also have eroticism. 

It would be like reading about an immortal, sexually turbo charged Lex Luthor.
Damn, ok. I'll read that lol.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on December 01, 2017, 11:07:03 PM
Is it just me or everytime we mention Mister this cat urine spam appears?
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Post by: Con on December 02, 2017, 04:25:18 AM
Billy BOyd, Will Bordern. I'd read his memoirs through the Paranett Papers RPG
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Post by: Arjan on December 02, 2017, 10:49:59 AM
Is it just me or everytime we mention Mister this cat urine spam appears?
Misters urine is a holy relique and its smell can save you.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on December 03, 2017, 12:13:58 AM
I thought it was his way of showing displeasure at us for talking about him without his permission.
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Post by: Arjan on December 03, 2017, 07:17:18 AM
I thought it was his way of showing displeasure at us for talking about him without his permission.
Depends on the location, a lot of things are context sensitive. Cleaning his tray is an act of worship that brings you closer to the white god. It is a form of meditation.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on December 03, 2017, 10:32:32 AM
Maybe, this.
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Post by: Arjan on December 03, 2017, 12:18:46 PM
Maybe, this.
To sell them as holy relics of course.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on December 04, 2017, 11:46:01 PM
Okay, this is just a test. I am typing Mister the Cat to see if the cat urine spam returns.
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Post by: LordDresden2 on December 05, 2017, 04:10:12 AM
Depends.  Can I keep the Council and other great powers in the dark about it?  Otherwise, reading some of those might well get me killed.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on December 05, 2017, 08:26:35 AM
I doubt Cowl is going to kill you for reading "Frozen: The Life of Mab, the Snow Queen."
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Post by: DoTArchon on December 05, 2017, 10:50:23 AM
Rashid the Gatekeeper needs to be added to this list...
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Post by: wardenferry419 on December 05, 2017, 11:03:17 AM
Added.
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Post by: Talby16 on December 05, 2017, 08:00:15 PM
Interesting question. I would love to see some behind the scenes reasoning for some actions. Mab, Nicodemus, McCoy, and Rashid are my top picks.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on December 05, 2017, 09:05:43 PM
Which one of the biggies, like Mab, Odin, or Uriel, would have the broadest, most detailed understanding of what is going and what everything is leading to? Might be a good topic for a thread....?
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Post by: Bacchus on December 06, 2017, 06:53:52 AM
Im surprised more people didn't pick the gatekeeper
        he probably knows more about the ways than any moral (which is insanely dangerous)
          he learned to use a carpet to fly around (which is insanely dangerous)
            he  somehow learned to use a time travel variant to predict the future (can be insanely dangerous)
              he got recruited by the fey queens to guard the outer gates against spies  and can do that better then any of the fey apparently
                  has saved the world at least a few times ( going off what he said at the outer gates in cold days)
                     has a very deep knowledge of and a history with demonreach
                         a long time senor council member who pretty much ignores the senior council.
                             seems to pop in just in the nick of time and provide just the nudge, eye goop, advice, or warning to let Dresden stop a disaster
         and with all that he Probably is somehow over 1000 years old but still a mortal.

sure the godlike creatures can do this stuff but a regular wizard accomplishing all that

Edit because i screwed up the post
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Post by: LordDresden2 on December 06, 2017, 08:12:47 AM
I doubt Cowl is going to kill you for reading "Frozen: The Life of Mab, the Snow Queen."

No, but Lara might come after me if she knew I'd read Thomas' or (esp.!) Lord Raith's, I might have a problem with the Mob and the FBI if it got out that I'd read Marcone's, the Senior Council might object to my reading Eb's, Margaret's, or McCoy's, for various reasons, and Kemmler might catch the Council's attention, too.

Just about everybody would probably have opinions about the original Merlin's books, including the Queens, and Rashid's might take me straight into Seventh Law violation.

Not saying I wouldn't read them, mind you, but I wouldn't necessarily want it known that I had read them.

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Post by: Arjan on December 06, 2017, 08:51:21 AM
No, but Lara might come after me if she knew I'd read Thomas' or (esp.!) Lord Raith's, I might have a problem with the Mob and the FBI if it got out that I'd read Marcone's, the Senior Council might object to my reading Eb's, Margaret's, or McCoy's, for various reasons, and Kemmler might catch the Council's attention, too.

Just about everybody would probably have opinions about the original Merlin's books, including the Queens, and Rashid's might take me straight into Seventh Law violation.

Not saying I wouldn't read them, mind you, but I wouldn't necessarily want it known that I had read them.

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I read Kemmlers book. I know how the darkhallow works and I know how to turn necromancy against the black court

Mavra will kill you.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on December 06, 2017, 09:31:38 AM
Well, most of that goes back to the supernatural world likes it secrets. :)
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Post by: Kindler on December 06, 2017, 03:47:45 PM
Well, most of that goes back to the supernatural world likes it secrets. :)

They're pretty crappy at keeping a lot of them. Which, in my opinion, is a big shell game. They don't hide the big, distracting secrets—VAMPIRES ARE REAL AND PEOPLE CAN THROW FIREBALLS AND AIR TRAVEL IS A TOTAL WASTE IF YOU KNOW HOW TO GET TO THE NEVERNEVER—just so that people don't look for the real stuff, like why the Sidhe are physically unable to lie.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on December 06, 2017, 11:13:26 PM
While it does place some limitation on mortal manipulation; I have no clue as to how that became a part of their nature.
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Post by: Rasins on December 08, 2017, 05:01:24 PM
I didn't know you had one, give me a short hand version?

Short version ... Kemmler was WARDEN before Harry.  Rashid distracted DR while the rest of the council took Kemmler out the last time.  That's why DR holds a grudge against Rashid.

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Post by: Rasins on December 08, 2017, 05:02:50 PM
Lord Raith...  That would be very interesting to read.  It would not be boring.  It would be filled with lots of eroticism, deceit, eroticism, power plays, eroticism, murder, oh and it would also have eroticism. 

It would be like reading about an immortal, sexually turbo charged Lex Luthor.

It could be boring.  Especially if he DIDN'T focus on the sex parts.  I could totally see him doing that, thinking that the sex was the boring part of the story.  He gets sex ALL the time, so it's not interesting to him.
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Post by: jonas on December 08, 2017, 05:30:49 PM
Short version ... Kemmler was WARDEN before Harry.  Rashid distracted DR while the rest of the council took Kemmler out the last time.  That's why DR holds a grudge against Rashid.
Ah. I could see Kemmler as The Warden... but I personally have other idea's about what Rashid did to DR to so royally piss it off.
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Post by: Rasins on December 08, 2017, 06:14:48 PM
Ah. I could see Kemmler as The Warden... but I personally have other idea's about what Rashid did to DR to so royally piss it off.

Do tell.
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Post by: groinkick on December 08, 2017, 11:12:18 PM
It could be boring.  Especially if he DIDN'T focus on the sex parts.  I could totally see him doing that, thinking that the sex was the boring part of the story.  He gets sex ALL the time, so it's not interesting to him.

He would absolutely focus on the sex part.  He bragged to Murphy about how he loved to conquer (sexually) the strong women he'd come across over his lifetime.
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Post by: jonas on December 08, 2017, 11:46:32 PM
Do tell.
... He destroyed it... or destroys it, or is currently destroying it lol. Something Odin said about DR being unable to contemplate it's own end combined with what they were trying to do made me think It's already been destroyed once or will be in the future. It's intellectus would go nuts over Rashid for multiple reasons, one of which is GK might be an outsider role anyway.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on December 08, 2017, 11:53:58 PM
Short version ... Kemmler was WARDEN before Harry.  Rashid distracted DR while the rest of the council took Kemmler out the last time.  That's why DR holds a grudge against Rashid.
We know Kemmler was taken down on Halloween; but, we have never learned where as far as I can remember.
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Post by: Rasins on December 09, 2017, 04:05:14 AM
... He destroyed it... or destroys it, or is currently destroying it lol. Something Odin said about DR being unable to contemplate it's own end combined with what they were trying to do made me think It's already been destroyed once or will be in the future. It's intellectus would go nuts over Rashid for multiple reasons, one of which is GK might be an outsider role anyway.

He, as in Rashid, destroys DR?
And the Gate Keeper role is an outsiders role?  I'm not following.

We know Kemmler was taken down on Halloween; but, we have never learned where as far as I can remember.

Was it Halloween?  I'll have to look into that, because that would be very interesting. 

IF he was the WARDEN, and on DR, there is no way the council could have taken him down.  Not if he knew what being the WARDEN was all about, and I doubt Kemmler would have NOT known.
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Post by: LordDresden2 on December 09, 2017, 06:05:17 AM
Well, most of that goes back to the supernatural world likes it secrets. :)

So does the natural one.  You could end up just as dead for learning Marcone's various mundane secrets as for learning the inner secrets of the White Court.  It's no safer walking around with a head full of information about military ciphers or where the Gambino's bury the bodies than it is to know Council secrets.

'Knowing too much' has always been a potential capitol crime.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on December 09, 2017, 08:40:22 PM
I still thing I would take mundane torture over magical torture; just remembering what Mab did to Slate.
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Post by: groinkick on December 09, 2017, 08:47:03 PM
I still thing I would take mundane torture over magical torture; just remembering what Mab did to Slate.

Imagine being locked up on Demonreach and Harry putting some annoying song on repeat for months on end.
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Post by: wardenferry419 on December 09, 2017, 08:57:49 PM
Like 40 yr old virgin and Michael MacDonald.
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Post by: Rasins on December 11, 2017, 03:24:12 PM
OMG ... the Hokey Pokey on a loop ... UGH!!
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Post by: wardenferry419 on December 11, 2017, 04:34:43 PM
For me, it would probably be Achy, Breaky Heart.