For Debbie Chester, who taught me everything I really needed to know about writing. And for my father, who taught me everything I really needed to know about living.
I miss you dad.
Marcone seemed somewhat put off by my attitude. Maybe I was supposed to be holding my hat in my hand, but I had never really liked Francis Ford Coppola, and I didn't have a Godfather. (I do have a Godmother, and she is, inevitably perhaps, a faery. But that's another story.)
He wrinkled up his face as if carefully considering what he would say, and taking my well-being into account with grandfatherly concern. "How much would it set me back to have you not investigate something?"
"All right, then," he said, smoothly, and as though nothing had happened. "I won't try to force my offer on you, Mister Dresden." The car was slowing down as it approached my building, and Hendricks pulled over in front of it. "But let me offer you some advice?"FM:
He had dropped the father-talking-to-son act, and spoke in a calm and patient voice.
"Get out of my office," I said. I stepped inside and closed the door.
"Now, now, Mr. Dresden," Marcone said, a father's reproof in his tone. "Is that any way to talk to a business partner?"
...Marcone chuckled. "I think you should hear me out." I looked him in the eyes and smiled faintly. "No. Get out."By now, in just a cursory review of just the first few books, Jim has deliberately depicted Marcone employing a fatherly approach when attempting to persuade Harry to do what he wants. What that exactly means, I'm not sure but it can be the basis of potential foreshadowing and irony depending on how things turn out.
His fatherly manner vanished, and his eyes became cold. "I have neither the time nor the tolerance for your childishness, Mr. Dresden.
From what I recall he was a marine in Vietnam. Though I might be getting Michael carpenter confused in with the woj. You definitely remembered correctly that he was a marine.
@BillyYank Marcone was a Marine.So that settles it, there isn't an allusion at least in that quote to Vietnam.
2011 Naperville Signing
You have a big supporting cast of antagonists in the Dresden Files, are there any you prefer writing over others?
...And Marcone is also a favorite. Being able to write the short story Even Hand from his viewpoint was very enlightening for me. Because I had never really been entirely certain what his take on Dresden was until I actually got inside his head and started writing him for a while. He’s the guy that looks at Dresden like, you know, the guy that looks at the drunken Sheriff in town who’s just like “I just want the shootouts to stop.” It’s like, Come on, yes you keep wining them but COME ON, there’s gotta be a better way that brakes fewer windows. But at the same time he owns the undertaker shop so… [shrugs and waves his hand in front of them like they are balancing scales].
Amanda's birth via Priscilla's timeline prior to Storm Front
~13-17 BSF: Amanda Beckitt born. [Age:0] {This needs to be analyzed further it is based largely on description of Amanda as in late teens, early twenties in DM which according to timeline takes place 3 years after Storm Front)Quote[2-7 years BSF] What I could see was the Beckitt family. Husband, wife, daughter, a little girl maybe ten or eleven years old. [Age: 10-11]She is "in her late teens or early twenties" in DM which takes place about 3 years after SF. [Age 18-23]
@BillyYank Marcone was a Marine. [Age>17 when he entered service]I'm having some difficulty making some of the facts we know about Marcone mesh particulary regarding his apparent age at time of shootout, service as a marine, temporal proximity to Storm Front, his takeover of Chicago's criminal underworld.
I looked over my shoulder to see a very, very young-looking Marcone.How long was Marcone involved in the years of internal struggle after the Vargassi family dissolved into internal strife?
He wasn't wearing a business suit. He had on jeans and a black leather jacket. His hair was longish, a little mussed, and he also sported a stubble of beard that gave him the kind of rakish look that would attract attention from the girls who fantasized about indulging with a bad boy. [Age:?]
"Gentleman" Johnny Marcone had been the thug to emerge on top of the pile after the Vargassi family had dissolved into internal strife. The police department saw Marcone as a mixed blessing, after years of merciless struggle and bloody exchanges with the Vargassis.SF: Marcone's appearance during first Harry/Marcone encounter
Gentleman Johnny Marcone didn't look like the sort of man who would have my legs broken or my jaw wired shut. His salt-and-pepper hair was cut short, and there were lines from sun and smiling etched into the corners of his eyes. His eyes were the green of well-worn dollar bills. He seemed more like a college football coach: good-looking, tanned, athletic, and enthusiastic. The impression was reinforced by the men he kept with him.
25 BSF, October 31: Harry is born. Harry's mother, now Margaret Gwendolyn Dresden, dies in childbirth. She is murdered by a ritual entropy curse, courtesy of Lord Raith. [Harry's Age SF=25]Based on time of shootout, estimate of Amanda's birth, Harry's birth, and Marcone involvement in a shootout 2-7BSF at age no earlier than 18, I estimate that Marcone is at least 6-10 years older than Harry.
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@BillyYank Marcone was a Marine. [Age>17 when he entered service]
I'm having some difficulty making some of the facts we know about Marcone mesh.
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I looked over my shoulder to see a very, very young-looking Marcone.
He wasn't wearing a business suit. He had on jeans and a black leather jacket. His hair was longish, a little mussed, and he also sported a stubble of beard that gave him the kind of rakish look that would attract attention from the girls who fantasized about indulging with a bad boy.
Why? Because he was busy taking over the criminal enterprise in Chicago after that shootout or so I suppose and the shootout wasn't that much earlier than Storm Front.
@BillyYank Marcone was a Marine.
So that settles it, there isn't an allusion at least in that quote to Vietnam.
As to entering at age 17, I believe he'd need parental consent to do so, I cannot imagine his crime family parents giving that..I don't think it's established that he has crime family parents. We are in the dark as to his parents otherwise I wouldn't even be entertaining this WAG.
We know MacFinn was in Vietnam. Don't know about Marcone though.
So, it can be pretty easy to figure out.Which it's a stupid way to make a time table but GTA vice city and Marcones 80's Hair support that timeline lol.
He could have started his criminal career early, joined the Marines -served his time for the minimum, and Vargrassi war kicked off when he returned or not soon after.
I think what got me headed the way of Harry and Marcone being related and with some father/son dynamic going on was many of the early father, grandfather, father talking to son, fatherly references between Harry and Marcone.
Besides that, I probably would never have gone down this route.
Has Mouse ever met Marcone?
Now you aren't going to try to suggest that Marcone is a shape-shifted Mouse, are you?
LOL
2011 Atlanta Signing
How about a short story from the perspective of Mouse or Mister? A day in the life?
I suppose it could be done. Mister’s would be really freaky, because he’s a cat. [unintelligible]….he’s a cat. I guess it could be fun writing that. From Mouse’s perspective? I don’t know, Mouse knows too much about what’s going on, he’d give it away. Mouse is actually far more clued in than Dresden
Has Mouse ever met Marcone?
Very sensible, though on the first meeting marcone was trying to persuade Harry, so I doubt he used a fatherly facade as an intended irritant.Considering it is largely played up by him when he does do it, one wonders where he learned it. 'Acting' a role like that take a bit of effort to develop. What's the origin of this fatherly coach personae I wonder?
Considering it is largely played up by him when he does do it, one wonders where he learned it. 'Acting' a role like that take a bit of effort to develop. What's the origin of this fatherly coach personae I wonder?
And here I thought he was emulating Bill Cosby.roflmao
"Lawrence. Show me your wrist."
"He's lying, boss," Gimpy Lawrence said again, but his voice was shaking. "He's just trying to mess with your head."
"Lawrence," Marcone said, his tone the gentle reproof of parent to child.