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The Dresden Files => DF Spoilers => Topic started by: jamescagney22 on July 18, 2017, 10:20:40 PM
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Okay finishing my re-read of the series and I have a couple questions on some loose ends I may have missed.
1. Whatever happened to Evil Bob? Good Bob said in Cold Days he ran away from the fight as soon as he could and nobody seems to bring him up again is this foreshadowing his return or did I miss something?
2. When Harry fought Cowl he said that Cowl's magic was huge and different from what he was usedm to what did he mean? He specifically ruled out necromantic and vampire energy and aside from Cowl having a large reservoir of power I can't think of what difference Harry was talking about.
3. Lastly, do you think that Titania has aspects similar to Mabs? Or for that matter do the Ladies and Mothers have the ability to change into other forms as well?
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1) I wouldn't be surprised if Evil Bob shows up again at some point.
2) One possibility is that Cowl's magic is augmented by stealing the power of other mortal practitioner victims.
3) Highly likely. We know Mab has her standard aspect, Judgment, and (per WOJ) the combat aspect we have yet to see (presumably upcoming in PT when we finally 'get to see Mab sweat').
If I had to guess, the armoured gown Titania showed up in to talk to Harry after he summoned her was probably her version of the combat aspect, in case she ended up deciding to squash him on the spot.
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3. Lastly, do you think that Titania has aspects similar to Mabs? Or for that matter do the Ladies and Mothers have the ability to change into other forms as well?
At the very least, I'd think she might display the same sort of aspects of 'monarchy' that Mab does, judgement, mercy, legislation, etc. Though it's also not clear how much of Mab's 'aspects' are something supernaturally important and how much is Mab being Mab.
Remember, even Titania had to suppress a smirk when Harry said that Mab liked 'flashy entrances'.
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Okay finishing my re-read of the series and I have a couple questions on some loose ends I may have missed.
1. Whatever happened to Evil Bob? Good Bob said in Cold Days he ran away from the fight as soon as he could and nobody seems to bring him up again is this foreshadowing his return or did I miss something?
I'd be surprised if we didn't. Further, I'd bet he'll be in Cow's possession, though there are others for whom it may be more fun to have EB.
2. When Harry fought Cowl he said that Cowl's magic was huge and different from what he was usedm to what did he mean? He specifically ruled out necromantic and vampire energy and aside from Cowl having a large reservoir of power I can't think of what difference Harry was talking about.
I thought that Harry said that Cowl had a definite musty/moldy/watery smell. That might explain some of it.
3. Lastly, do you think that Titania has aspects similar to Mabs? Or for that matter do the Ladies and Mothers have the ability to change into other forms as well?
Absolutely. I'd be surprised if she didn't.
As to the other forms ... again, I'd me surprised if they didn't, but then again, it could also be illusion.
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1. Well I am glad I am not the only who one noticed Evil Bob's location or lack of to be more accurate.
2. Well that was after the fact when he said that but that is probably the most likely explanation.
3. My own theory is that Mab has a Judge/Jury/Executioner with the last one having her hair blue and transforming into a war goddess. I can't imagine Titania turning all white for her judgement form though.
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I'd be surprised if we didn't. Further, I'd bet he'll be in Cow's possession, though there are others for whom it may be more fun to have EB.
Personally, I'd be surprised if Harry's distraction tactic of convincing Evil Bob that he's capable of an independent agenda rather than serving an owner doesn't wind up biting him in the ass down the line.
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If defeated and dealt with, it could be a very useful source of intelligence. It is said Harry new daughter has a vast collection of lore, but little way to use it. If she takes his knowledge, it might make her more capable of using her own database.
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So Harry"s new daughter is like a library without the Dewey Decimal System.
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Well the last Spirit of Intellect who though for herself became the Goddess of War so who knows what Evil Bob will become. And on re-reading Dead Beat again I think Harry meant that Cowl used kinetic energy which is still odd because force magic is his other evocation specialty.
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Harry has to deal with evil Bob, who knows what he knows about Harry and his friends? He is too big a threat to leave intact.
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A combo punch of Bob and Harry's new daughter should do the trick.
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Bob is afraid of absorbing back evil Bob, but working with Bonnie, they could divide him up, so neither is caused harm from the piec they take.
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I think Bob got creative and did something to evil Bob we haven't considered, but doesn't wanna say what, cause you know, story plot lol.
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I think Bob got creative and did something to evil Bob we haven't considered, but doesn't wanna say what, cause you know, story plot lol.
Well in Cold Days he said he left as soon as he was able to so that makes it unlikely he did anything that would effect Evil Bob for long.
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Well in Cold Days he said he left as soon as he was able to so that makes it unlikely he did anything that would effect Evil Bob for long.
True, the whole Bug-out mentality implies that EB was still a danger.
Or, Bob Lied. He can do that, after all.
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Wouldn't the easiest way to deal with EB is to lure him into some kind of Sanctum, then wait until daytime and smash said sanctum?
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Unless he has an emergency sanctum, set up to summon him back if he is at mortal peril during day light.
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Sunrises are dangerous for him, but bob can exist outside during the day at least for short periods. He flew off at the end of SG. Though that was a heavily foggy/overcast day rather than direct sunlight.
Still, good ol' Fire should do it any time day or night.
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Regarding No. 2 (from the OP), in the Deeps, didn't Harry mention that Cowl's magic felt watery/moldy/dank and wet or some such?
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Regarding No. 2 (from the OP), in the Deeps, didn't Harry mention that Cowl's magic felt watery/moldy/dank and wet or some such?
Think that was a reference to his way not the magic itself? Cowl always seems to connects to the realm of shadow that was shown in Camp Kaboom(prime reasoning why the ghoul was actually talking about cowl when Harry walks up) Or someplace just off the junction, lightless waters, mildew smell, what not. I think it might be Atlantis/Rilah sunk under the sea personally.
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Think that was a reference to his way not the magic itself? Cowl always seems to connects to the realm of shadow that was shown in Camp Kaboom(prime reasoning why the ghoul was actually talking about cowl when Harry walks up) Or someplace just off the junction, lightless waters, mildew smell, what not. I think it might be Atlantis/Rilah sunk under the sea personally.
I think it may have been his use of force/kinetic magic but I don't why Harry would say that as he uses that second to fire magic. Maybe Cowl's aura was another factor but I don't think Harry described it that much.
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Well the last Spirit of Intellect who though for herself became the Goddess of War so who knows what Evil Bob will become. And on re-reading Dead Beat again I think Harry meant that Cowl used kinetic energy which is still odd because force magic is his other evocation specialty.
UHHH LINK PLZ?
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UHHH LINK PLZ?
He said it at Dragon Con 2015 near the 52-53 minute mark. There are a couple versions on Youtube or you can look at the WOJ section.
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UHHH LINK PLZ?
Dont have a clean link ATM, but ya he more or less confirmed that Athena was a Spirit of Intellect that was born of Zeus similar to Harry's episode. No real indication on relative powers, power levels, or how their different parentage might change things (one being born of a God and Something Else, another born of a Mortal and an Angel Imprint.