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Title: Claws power upgrades weapons?
Post by: LeviathanZero on January 14, 2013, 12:08:29 PM
Hey all. So I was just glancing through "Our World", and I cam across this when describing The Reaper in the Fae section: "Use the stress bonus of the claws and strength as a layer on top of the sickle weapon it carries (Weapon:2 itself, upgrading to Weapon:5), rather than as a Fists attack—the equivalent of a sword or similar blade"

This seems to indicate that the Claws power can 'upgrade' a carried weapon. Is this supported anywhere else, or is it just one of those irregularities that crops up sometimes?
Title: Re: Claws power upgrades weapons??
Post by: Mr. Death on January 14, 2013, 01:45:37 PM
No, what it's saying is that Claws -is- the Sickle weapon. The Claws are Weapon:2, and Inhuman Strength upgrades that to Weapon:4.
Title: Re: Claws power upgrades weapons??
Post by: Deadmanwalking on January 14, 2013, 07:50:03 PM
No, what it's saying is that Claws -is- the Sickle weapon. The Claws are Weapon:2, and Inhuman Strength upgrades that to Weapon:4.

This. The sickle is part of it's body (as Charity demonstrates in the book, when it meets Cold Iron and gets sheared through), and thus a reflection of the Claws power. One that happens to use the Weapons skill instead of Fists, which is what the note you're talking about is really discussing.
Title: Re: Claws power upgrades weapons??
Post by: LeviathanZero on January 14, 2013, 11:24:40 PM
Actually, that's not what it's saying.
The Claws power gives Weapon: 1 and Inhuman Strength gives a +2 to weapon damage.
"Use the stress bonus of the claws and strength as a layer on top of the sickle weapon it carries (Weapon:2 itself, upgrading to Weapon:5)," is pretty clear: it's starting with a Weapon:2 Sickle, adding Claws power Weapon:1 on top of that, and then Inhuman Strength to make Weapon:5. Yes it's stating that its "Claws" power is actually a Sickle, but it's stacking that with an Equipment Sickle as well.

If it was just the Weapon:2 claws and the Inhuman Strength that'd be Weapon:4
Title: Re: Claws power upgrades weapons??
Post by: Mr. Death on January 14, 2013, 11:34:48 PM
It does say Weapon:4. I checked my copy of the book when I responded. Look again.

Claws gives Weapon:2. The power write up says "Claws (Sickle)", i.e., the Claws power represents the Sickle.
Title: Re: Claws power upgrades weapons??
Post by: Sanctaphrax on January 14, 2013, 11:37:14 PM
Pretty sure this was changed after the first PDFs were sent out. Claws used to give a stacking +1 stress, but they changed them to weapon 2 before putting out the physical book.

I think.
Title: Re: Claws power upgrades weapons??
Post by: Deadmanwalking on January 14, 2013, 11:45:10 PM
Pretty sure this was changed after the first PDFs were sent out. Claws used to give a stacking +1 stress, but they changed them to weapon 2 before putting out the physical book.

I think.

This is correct. Heck, I was there when they made the change.

 You're effectively using different editions of the two books and getting weird interactions for that reason.
Title: Re: Claws power upgrades weapons?
Post by: LeviathanZero on January 14, 2013, 11:55:33 PM
And that's what happens when I upload the preorder copy of my books to Google drive for easy access ><

Sorry all! Feel free to ignore this thread :)
And now I'd best go and change the character that I've got up in the Recruitment thread...
Title: Re: Claws power upgrades weapons?
Post by: Hick Jr on January 15, 2013, 02:16:19 AM
....

that awful moment when you realize you're at least one edition out of date

this must be what asking for a Spot check in a Pathfinder game is like