aye, its the building on top of part that seems like it should do... something...
we know that a threshold is needed for a ward but does a better threshold make for a better ward? would using a great +4 reduce the complexity by 4? could i tag the threshold? or is it just a pre-req?A threshold is *not* needed for a ward. Harry's house has no threshold (it's a rental), but does have a ward. Generally, you need some sort of boundary to anchor a ward to, and that boundary can be something as ephemeral as a circle drawn with salt. Of course, a threshold would certainly do as a form of boundary.
alrighty so if the better the threshold the longer it lasts and the better is serves, what bump up the the time chart how long it lasts?Well, if you go with my Declaration suggestion, you could always use that to give you +2 complexity, allowing you to get two more shifts on the duration chart than you would have gotten otherwise...
Hey if I was a wizard I would totally try to ward my bathroom. You don't want some ninja ghoul sneaking in there and using it. That's a terrible, terrible form of revenge.Hm. My target is not here. I shall wait for him ... and my bladder needs relieving in the meantime. <Flips up the lid, and receives a fireball to the nether regions...>
what is the most private you will be considered a tresspasser area in any place. The bathroom. so do they have a threshold when occupied? Just a silly thought
Hm. My target is not here. I shall wait for him ... and my bladder needs relieving in the meantime. <Flips up the lid, and receives a fireball to the nether regions...>
Totally there nothing wrong with aforementioned toilet ward but it has been pointed out in the books that it is easier to anchor wards to thresholds than it is just to throw them up. Of course in some books there are examples of people and things just throwing up wards.
Thresholds are much trickier to establish.
Now, if there was a hostile caster of some sort, attempting to cast spells at or into the cottage, in order to breach the Ward around the cottage, either to damage the Ward of someone/something inside, they would need to be able to direct a Legendary (+11) shift spell, just to get 1 shift of effect past both the Threshold and the Ward.
Wards don’t have a “scale” concern, the way that veils do, and they cannot move. They are almost always tied to a particular place’s natural
thresholds—think of them as a super-boosted immune system—so they are limited by the size of that threshold. Without a threshold they can only be set up to cover a small area at most—usually a point of transition such as a doorway or intersection.
However, the threshold imposes 2 refresh worth of penalty to the vampire's powers and the vampire loses its supernatural strength - it is reduced to inhuman. Furthermore, the threshold imposes a -2 penalty to all of the vampire's rolls. Therefore, the vampire rolls at +4 against your Ward of 6, and its chances to break through are lower.
A creature does not have to be inside the threshold for the threshold to affect it.
For example, a wizard outside the threshold that attempts to affect something inside, his magical powers would take a penalty.
Similarly, the vampire is not inside the threshold. But it is attempting to affect something inside - namely, the Ward in this case. Thus its efforts take the normal penalties. The only difference is that creatures of the Nevernever to which thresholds are highly inimical will not take the continious irresistible attacks from the threshold if they are not inside.
But it is attempting to affect something inside - namely, the Ward in this case. Thus its efforts take the normal penalties.
As for the penalties, a threshold gives three different penalties. a) a penalty in powers equal to its strength in refresh, b) a penalty to all rolls equal to its strength and c) a barrier against certain creatures that, if they cross it, it keeps attacking them at its strength and said attacks are irresistible and indefensible. Not all creatures take said penalties from thresholds though - only the really unnatural ones.
a female presence instead of just being the home of a bachelor
I'd say so, yes. If you want to drill to the earth's core, you still have to get through the crust before you can deal with the magma after all.
Since you have already stated that you are inside of the threshold (unlike the argument they are having above) even if they were inside the threshold (provided they were not invited in) they would have to deal with the threshold before dealing with the ward (it would act as a block to their actions and limit their powers as mentioned above).