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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: February 06, 2013, 01:25:48 PM »
Oops, sorry!   :-[   Maybe I should do a Dresden Files casting with the Babylon 5/Crusade cast.  Hmmmm.  ....but probably none of you here would get it.

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: February 05, 2013, 10:00:34 PM »
I admit I've seen a Handfull of Babylon five episodes and I like what they were doing but some of it seemed...silly

You really ought to watch B5, from the pilot (which is rough, and they made changes between the pilot and S1E1.), and Seasons 1 thru 5, in order, and the TV movies, where they fall in the series timeline, plus Crusade.  What did you think was silly, Centauri hairstyles?  The higher the crest, the higher the rank, until one balding Centauri emperor gave up the trappings of appearance in 2259 when he was quite old and very ill and couldn't be bothered with a wig, and one Centauri emperor adopted a short crest in 2261, but he was insane.  The only part of Babylon 5 that I'd avoid is the Legend of the Rangers Sci-Fi Original movie.

The fall of Londo Mollari, which spans Seasons 1 thru 5, is particularly poignant.  See http://youtu.be/6_QquHyveg4

See also:

http://www.b5tv.com/showthread.php?t=11668
http://www.b5tv.com/showthread.php?t=11723



DS9 did have the problems of too many cooks in the kitchen.
Paramount wanted x (We want something the Kids, Families, and the Fans can watch)
The producers wanted y (They wanted to Do what would become Battlestar Glattica, and some of them wanted to do Gene's 'vision")
the fans wanted Z (The Fans wanted, Borg or Crossovers, or Boobs or who knows what Star Trek fans want, and more importantly who cares)

Sadly you jumped ship on DS9 right before it got good, the last 3 seasons were great.

I just couldn't stand it any longer.

JJ is making Star Trek assessable to well, everyone who is not us.
You have no idea the number of people I've met who go, Yeah I've tried to Watch Star Trek TNG/VOYAGER/DS9 but it was so boring/corny/weird. But then I saw that Star Trek movie and it was Really fun!

Oh, I really don't understand people anymore.  It's probably partly due to new effects.  That's part of why some people get turned off of Babylon 5 when they're watching the pilot or Season 1, the crude, initial effects.  The thing is, Babylon 5 effects improved every year.  If you stick with it long enough to get into the story, you'll make allowances for the initial effects.  The thing is, Babylon 5 is a complex story, with many threads running through each episode, and you'll see things on the second viewing of the series that you didn't see on the first. Ditto for subsequent viewings.

You bought the DVD, so he got your "vote" as it were. But me and you will go see bad movies or "Okay" movies because we are loyal to the Franchise.  But even that didn't stop Star Trek Nemesis from Tanking

I kind of liked the effects in "Star Trek: Nemesis" and I'm always happy to see Dina Meyer.  ;D   The Picard and Shinzon (I had to look that name up.) got really tiresome.  If I'd kept "Star Trek: Nemesis" in my DVD collection (Bought it for less than $10 at Wal-Mart.), it would've been for the space battles.

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: February 05, 2013, 08:02:18 PM »
DS9 is actually, I understand it, the bastard cousin of B5.
Strazinsky showed the idea for B5 around Hollywood and that included Paramount
and, lo and behold, several months afterwards they come up with DS9.
And yes, Paramount has "borrowed" other people's ideas before.

It's funny how Not interested. and We're coming out with our own show revolving around a space station. turns into their own series fast when lots of money is thrown at a project, huh?  B5's cost per episode was less than half of DS9's.  Hell, Paramount spent more on Voyager's 2-hour pilot than was spent on any SEASON of Babylon 5.

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: February 05, 2013, 07:44:07 PM »
I loved DS9!

I hated DS9 even before I knew that Babylon 5 existed (I discovered B5 in Sept. 1996.).  I'd stuck with DS9 for FOUR LONG YEARS out of goodwill built up from watching TOS and TNG from 1966 to 1994, before gradually quitting watching it (DS9).  The freakin' kids seemed to be there only to cause problems.  Keiko O'Brien was a royal pain in the ass for Miles O'Brien.  The Bajorans and Kai Whatsherface were more annoyances.  In Sept. 1996, I saw "Babylon 5"  S3E21 "Shadow Dancing" and was HOOKED immediately.  The writing was better, the effects were better, the characters and alien races were more fleshed out, less one-dimensional, less stereotypical sci-fi; it was head and shoulders above Trek.  Then, much later, I found out that B5 had been shopped to Paramount before Warner Brothers, and Paramount had been given the Babylon 5 series treatment/bible.  Paramount turned 'em down and then rushed DS9 into production, and got their pilot out before the Babylon 5 pilot.  Hmmmmm.  Leeta vs. Lyta.  Worm hole vs. hyperspace.jumpgate system.  Defiant vs. Whitestar.   Tsk, tsk.  Well, regardless of how eerily close the starting point for B5 and DS9, the series diverged as time went on due to the different creative teams making them.

Voyager tried to hard (You like Borgs, how about a Million Borg!)

I switched to Voyager from DS9, and Voyager was even WORSE!  ARGH!  <spit>  Maquis?  Bad hair day, sponge-head, Kazon?  Please!  <spit>  I just like Scorpion I & II because Species 8### ships looked vaguely like Vorlon ships, I liked how a group of their ships combined to make a bigger weapon (mimicking how a single Vorlon ship fires),  AND they kicked Borg ass.  I did like 7 of Double-D, though.  ;)


JJ is making Star Trek FUN again.


Oh for God's sake!  BARF!!!! 

JJ Abrams is ruining it, although there was not much left to ruin.  I bought the Star Trek (2009) DVD when it first came out because it was listed on Netflix as Very Long Wait, and I didn't want to wait.  I hadn't seen it in the theaters.  I watched the DVD and immediately sold it.  Didn't want it in my collection.  It was similar to what I did with War of the Worlds (2005), except that I broke that disc in two, so as not to have other minds subjected to it.  I saved the box, though, the most useful and valuable part of War of the Worlds (2005).   I kept hoping that the aliens would EAT the constantly screaming Rachel Ferrier/Dakota Fanning, just to shut her the hell up, plus, it would probably kill the aliens.  Then, I re-watched War of the Worlds (1953) just to help wash the 2005 version out of my memory.


Enterprise got boned because 1. UPN 2. Voyager Fans 3. They basically wrote themselves into a corner with what they could and could not do (I heard an exciting idea for the season after the last which is basically the Romulan-Earth War which would be epic)

Enterprise/Star Trek: Enterprise got Berman and Braga'd to death.  B&B were the two SOBs who ruined it.  Manny Coto did a helluva good job salvaging the show in Seasons 3 & 4.  I found Seasons 1 & 2 pretty boring/going nowhere and not very good at all.  B&B should be banned from ever working in TV or movies for what they did in ENT S4E22.  FWIW, when the alien space nazis were revealed in the last seven minutes of ENT S3E24 "Zero Hour", I dropped ENT and didn't watch Season 4 until four years later, via Netflix DVDs, at the recommendation of a friend on the internet.

I got started watching Babylon 5 back in Sept. 1996 on the recommendation of a friend and fellow engineer, who knew that I was getting 110% fed-up with DS9 & VOY.  I currently have no Trek DVDs in my collection.  OTOH, I have every Babylon 5 and Crusade DVD, the short stories (all out of print), the novels, mugs, baseball caps, some figurines (some pewter, some plastic) and even some of the comics/graphic novels.  The only other TV series/novels I'm into nearly as much as Babylon 5 is The Dresden Files.  ;D

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: February 05, 2013, 06:17:03 PM »
Patrick Stewart = Arthur Langtry
William Shatner = Ebeneezer McCoy
Leonard Nimoy = The Gatekeeper
George Takei = Ancient Mai
Walter Koenig = Aaron LaFortier
Nichelle Nichols = Martha Liberty
Robert Beltran = Gregori Cristos
Marina Sirtis = Original Anastasia Luccio
Jonathan Frakes = Donald Morgan
Brent Spiner = Grevane
Michael Dorn = Cowl
Scott Bakula = Malcolm Dresden
Jeri Ryan = Mab
Jolene Blalock = Titania
Gates McFaddon = Mother Summer
Kate Mulgrew = Mother Winter
Wil Wheaton = Peabody
Zachary Quinto = Harry Dresden
Benedict Cumberbach = Thomas Raith
Alice Eve = Karrin Murphy
Anton Yelchin = Waldo Butters
Karl Urban = Justin DuMorne (flashbacks)
Zoe Saldana = Young Corpsetaker; Young Luccio
Chris Pine = Jared Kincaid
John Cho = Xin Li (sp?)
Simon Pegg = Warden 'Steed' Chandler

I kinda wish Trek, all of it, would just go away.  I started watching TOS with "The Man Trap" back in Sept. 1966 on a 19" Zenith black & white TV, and I'm just sooooooo sick of Trek now.  I have no use whatsoever for JJ Abrams Trek, and to this day, if TOS or TNG came on TV when I was channel surfing, I might watch the episode, but if it were DS9 or VOY, I'd instantly change the channel if it wasn't Scorpion I & II of VOY.  I never could stand Mulgrew/Jameway.  ENT?  I might watch it as long as it wasn't the series finale.  As far as I'm concerned, ENT ended with #97, S4E21 "Terra Prime" on 13/May/05.

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: January 31, 2013, 09:09:46 PM »
I picture Nick Searcy (currently on Justified) as McCoy.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0780678/?ref_=tt_cl_t2

If he wasn't dead, I'd have picked Don S. Davis from Statgate SG-1
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0204493/?ref_=tt_cl_t5

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: January 28, 2013, 12:46:07 AM »
Paul Blackthorne is 6' 3½" (1.92 m) and I think he did it very well in the show.

Agreed! ;D

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: January 24, 2013, 08:50:32 PM »
I say again.  A minor detail under all the other colors.  But if it's that important, there are bleach kits.

Besides:  I was talking about the general look, not just the hair, and I'm sure the dye job was different before she became Harry's apprentice.

OK, like this, with the hair color being dyed/bleached to a strawberry blonde.  ;D  Besides, redheads are often rebellious, with tatoos and piercings and wild hair, and Julienne sure seems to be a natural redhead.  So, she fits.


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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: January 23, 2013, 11:22:56 PM »
But if they could find someone that could pull off a similar look to that, it would be great for Molly.  Especially teenage Molly.

I haven't read a description of Molly Carpenter in ages, but isn't she a blonde or strawberry blonde?  I've always pictured her kind of like a teenage Julianne Nicholson.

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: January 18, 2013, 04:58:43 AM »
Hey, double post.  Go me!

How about James Purefoy for Nic?  He can do wicked.



Perhaps as Marcone?

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: January 12, 2013, 10:31:26 PM »
Well, personal opinions can be like that.  And it isn't like it's an earthshaking decision, but I never liked PB as Harry, he just didn't look right, he didn't sound right and he didn't move right.

All of that I can imagine in Browder.  But, again, that's just me.

SG-1 Unending: Have You Ever Seen the Rain

Perhaps it's because I first saw Paul Blackthorne AS Harry Dresden, but I think he did a great job as Harry, and he's who I visualize when I'm reading the books.  I would not be upset if he reprised that role in the future.

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: January 12, 2013, 10:19:19 PM »
I don't see him as Harry (but then, I was always ok with Blackthorne)

I agree completely.

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: January 07, 2013, 09:53:06 AM »
Playing Harry is more about the ability to pull off the emotional range. I mean... I wouldn't want a 4 foot tall octogenarian, but if the actor can successfully carry the range between righteous wrath, bumbling uncertainty, and snarky irreverence, I wouldn't object to him playing the role.

That description just conjured up Jonny Lee Miller's Sherlock Holmes in "Elementary," for me.  Picture him with long hair and in the clothing of one of The Dresden Files book covers.   ;)

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: January 05, 2013, 11:52:40 AM »
I hadn't considered him as Michael - he might be able to do it, and it would be interesting see him play straight-man for once.

I can't believe how many votes Nathan Fillion got to be Harry! :o  Nathan is waaay too old and portly.  Back in his Firefly (TV) days maaaybe, but NOT NOW.  He'd have to lose at least 50 pounds and then be stretched on a rack. 

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: December 26, 2012, 06:49:14 PM »
I'm going to do something crazy, and suggest Tilda Swinton as Mab.

Excellent.  Cate Blanchett would be another great choice.

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