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DF Spoilers / Re: New questions that come from PT and BF
« on: November 14, 2020, 09:48:38 PM »
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It took an infected Justine under 2 years and 2 months to get pregnant while trying.

We don't know how long she was trying really.

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DF Books / Re: So how is BG?
« on: November 14, 2020, 09:46:25 PM »
When I make a series of polls on The Dresden Files Facebook Group - (pick least favourite each round and eliminate method) - Peace Talks/Battle Ground treated as one entry won 4th place (1. Skin Game 2. Changes 3. Dead Beat).

That's about as much as I can objectively tell about it.
Listening it was fun but personally I'd put it beyond top 10 - I had issues.

It's definitely both one book with Peace Talks, but also in a way completely different - but that was Jim's plan - Ethniu was meant to be sudden twist of WHAT THIS BOOK IS REALLY ABOUT.

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DF Spoilers / Re: "Talk To Me..." Had Carlos Already Drank the Kool-Aid?
« on: November 14, 2020, 05:45:51 PM »
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Maybe everybody knows except Harry and Carlos. Wizards.

For our next trick... ANVILS!

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who should Harry marry
« on: November 14, 2020, 04:54:33 PM »
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Molly is the logical candidate for Harry, if she became mortal again.  However, I have a feeling that while Harry is getting himself out of the Winter Knight's job, Molly will make the choice to remain an immortal.  It's mostly just a feeling, but Molly has said that her work as the Winter Lady is important.  I can't picture Molly running away from her responsibilities unless there was someone ready to jump into her current position.  I suppose Lea could do the job, but that doesn't feel right to me either.  (Even if I ignore the possible virginity element to the job.)   

I have feeling Faerie Courts shall be destroyed by end of BAT, so while Molly will survive - mantle of Winter Lady shall not. (Nor Mothers nor Mab).
And that will also of course free Harry from Winter Knight.

No Winter Court, no Winter Court responsibilities.
Black Court of Vampires shall be blackmailed (sic!) to guard Outer Gates in new age, so they shall get a free hand in robbing graveyards from bodies, but won't be able to prey on mankind as much ;)

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One question is will Harry ever be mature enough to have a decent relationship with any woman?
By that, I mean there was an element of "mommy" in both Susan and Murphy.  There is a part of Harry that wants to be mothered, perhaps because he never had one, and the "sage" advice both women gave Harry filled that void.

Was it with Susan? I had a feeling she was quite a dummy at least in first trilogy. (I'd say that could definitely be a thing with Luccio though).
But then Dresden's lifestyle so far never sort of lead to him having relationship beyond dating, that's another question. (Which is another reason I wished Mursden was longer a thing.)

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With the WK gig going to Thomas or Toot Toot

Within current rules Toot Toot cannot become WK

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She could do it - because that's ancient purpose of White Court :3

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DF Spoilers / Re: Nemesis [BG SPOILERS]
« on: November 14, 2020, 04:39:56 PM »
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So if Nemesis is from the Greek Pantheon, what would that mean exactly?  That part; or a single member, of that pantheon was tainted in some unknown way and was cast out of this reality and then spawned the rest of the Outsiders, or took them over if they were already an existing entity in their own universe, and now wants back in with what are either her children or new friends?

It's possible real Nemesis was also tainted by Adversary once upon a time.

Or if we take more Pratchettian and less Abrahamic vision of Metaphysics - maybe if White God took over as main honcho (not being real Creator but more assuming this mantle due to Abrahamic religions dominations) he forced pagan gods to resign and stop meddling in mortal affairs. But some of them rejected - flew through Outer gates and become a Walkers. This can explain why Walkers are most suitable Outsiders to dwell in this world. Beside is real Nemesis, Behind is of course Euridica, and so on XD

This may also mean Wrestler Olympians Book won't be just quirky funny sidequest before BAT but big important infodump.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Would You Be Shocked If....
« on: November 14, 2020, 04:34:49 PM »
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Let's say the suggestion in the OP is correct.  What happens if the child is born, survives and is recovered by Harry or Thomas?  A pretty much guaranteed vanilla mortal being raised by a WC vampire?  Even if Justine is freed from being possessed that would be a really strange situation for both of them.

But Thomas son gonna be white vampire just like Thomas. Just not-active till puberty - like all whampires.

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DF Spoilers / Re: "Talk To Me..." Had Carlos Already Drank the Kool-Aid?
« on: November 14, 2020, 04:33:47 PM »
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However Molly isn't Maeve.  However I guess you cannot blame Carlos for guilt by association.  That is if he knew how Maeve really was.

I mean Carlos sort of have a right to be pissed anyway - and apparently Winter Court did nothing to balance this.
Srsly if Lady - Maiden status is suddenly big Winter's secret I'm gonna be very MEH. I know it fantasy series, but it does not sounds like aspect of Mantle you can keep in secret. Not for a long run, not from White Council.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mac's True Nature (spoilers for BG)
« on: November 14, 2020, 04:32:12 PM »
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I've been saying that for years.. :o

Stars and Stones are McCoy's saying
Hells Bells seems to be Dresden's own
Empty Night - first we hear it IIRC from Lara Raith in "Blood Rites".

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DF Spoilers / Re: I'm A Bit Confused... Nemesis or Outsider or Both???
« on: November 14, 2020, 04:31:03 PM »
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So either he was blackmailed by HWWBs or made a deal to save Justine and the kid.

I could buy it if Thomas made deal with Nemesis and infected Justine only afterwards as a way to save them. That would be sort of cool.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Poor Harry - Jim you cruel man. Lol
« on: November 14, 2020, 01:08:06 AM »
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Of course Harry should also send Toot and Lacuna as well, they are two and a half foot tall in BG and doubtlessly will have undergone another growth spurt, putting them around Maggie’s size. And the Mouse and Maggie books will need comic relief.

Mouse and Maggie books will need not to be written :P

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DF Spoilers / Re: I'm A Bit Confused... Nemesis or Outsider or Both???
« on: November 14, 2020, 01:02:57 AM »
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When he discovered she was with child, which scared the hell out of him.  He may have even tried to talk her into aborting the child..  She refuses and tells him there is one way that she and the child could remain safe... Wait for it.... "All you have to do is assassinate the Atari king of the svartalves, and me and the child will be protected.."  That's when he knew she had him by the short hairs. ::)

I dislike this story part already and you make it even worse. Please stahp. :(

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That's assuming of course Lara is not about to bring Empty Night on Earth :3

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mac's True Nature (spoilers for BG)
« on: November 14, 2020, 12:56:55 AM »
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The only thing I recall Jim saying is he was from the "fun" end of fundamentalism spectrum. Catholics are not typically considered fundamentalists, so he probably wasn't Catholic.

I'm quite sure he was raised Baptist.

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I recall Jim saying something like the Creator could have just retconned reality to make Himself the Creator and how would anyone know the difference. For the italicized portion, I feel like that was what Jim was doing, but that wouldn't make the bolded portion false either.

OK... but then how it worked compared to what you pointed out yourself about beings "not changing their natures". I mean what does it says then about Uriel with his power way beyond our Galaxy, and his memories from beyond Creation? Were they changed by retcon? That open another can of worms - now Creator retconning universe sounds just like this last season of SPN XD

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It could be that it's all about will. We've seen older beings with will so powerful that it flattens mortals because the will of a few (or maybe hundreds) of mortals can't compare, but the problem for these older beings is that there are billions of mortals. When the will of a billion mortals is that you're just a story, it probably has an affect on you. When you have a bunch of mortals devoted to you being all powerful or just really powerful, that also probably has an affect on you.

Definitely sups can use it to anchor themselves - if at least part of what Thomas revealed about Oblivion War is real.

Damn now it gets to me - White Court - whose members are humans are trying to weaken proper superpowers influence over world - so humanity can be thrown into abyss of animalistic instincts and become prey. Thomas says that Oblivionites almost managed to lock Faeries in Oblivion. And Winter Court is guarding Outer Gates.
White Court swore on Empty Night, papa Raith is dealing with Outsiders.

That leads... to many possible tinfoil conclusions.
What if White Court on general are pawns of Outsiders for a long long time...

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DF Spoilers / Re: "Talk To Me..." Had Carlos Already Drank the Kool-Aid?
« on: November 14, 2020, 12:53:41 AM »
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Sarissa rolled her eyes and gave a helpless little lift and fall of her hands. “Maeve, what could I possibly have ruined for you? Did finally moving out of that studio apartment destroy your life? Did getting my nursing degree somehow diminish your power? Did I steal some boyfriend of yours that you accidently left breathing after the first night?”

This is awesome. Totally forgot about it.

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