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« on: January 05, 2023, 06:59:52 AM »
I'd flip Lucifer and Michael. Michael did have an army at his back when they ran L out.
Note for an asterisk - HUGE power but limited latitude - that Angel of Death said Lucifer couldn't stop her on a mission.
Not sure Hades under Ethniu. The Greek gods overthrew the Titans - Hades is Zeus' brother. they cast lots for their realms with Poseidon, so no one was SO far above the others he got to choose. So he's close to Zeus level.
Ivy is above the Ladies. I think Harry says as much to Luccio. She is closer to Queen level, maybe slightly short. Maybe even beats Lea and Eldest Gruff.
Naag is too high. LtW was beating it. He could have lost later, but he WAS winning. I think Eb and Rashid beat it, and Langtry at least stalemates him.
I just have a hunch the Gatekeeper has a few tricks up his robe. I think he might beat even Eb.
Marcone and Harry are too high, at least yet. Senior Council beats. Harry lost to the Naag that LtW was beating.
Knights are too high.
Mouse is way low. He threatened LEA one on one, and she said he was too far from his power. So.. in range of power, she thinks he wins? He does not seem the kind for idle threats - he thinks he hands her ass to her. Uriel also noted him. He scares Nic.
Latessa takes Dumb Muscle Ursiel. Dierdre is good hand to hand, but she's not taking ANY SC. Martha and Mai has to be higher.
I don't know if Klaus is combat oriented, or device oriented. He also might be senior to a few SC. Didn't they pass him to get to Eb? I just don't think he wants to deal with the politics.
Cat Sith has to be higher. Carlos is kitty litter if they fight. The question is if he can take the Knight. He thinks he can. He may be right.
Some groups are too broad - Heirs? Corpsetaker beat Luccio, and I think she would have taken Harry or Morgan. Doesn't mean all the heirs are that good.
Black Court? Mavra is nasty. Take her over Morgan, Luccio, and Carlos. Maybe Winter Knight Harry beats her, but not the previous one. Again, the others may be less.
Luccio I think in the old body was better than Morgan or Harry - not as much raw power, but skill, with that fire laser.
You left out the likes of Mort, who some rate as above Harry, Tera West - certainly above the Alphas, and the Angels in that Limbo waystation - one shut Harry's Sight with a casual gesture. That showed a good amount of juice. Sounds top 10,15 at worst. Cowl is a heavy hitter missing. Likely above Eb? Or maybe not missing. HWWB is top 10 at worst, maybe top 5. Below Mothers, probably below titan.