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DF Spoilers / Re: Adaptation Do's and Don'ts
« on: May 23, 2022, 05:08:21 AM »
Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on May 22, 2022, 01:16:16 PM
Morgan is supposed to be of Welsh descent about 200 years old, (the surname is a giveaway)so not really appropriate, he isn’t from Chicago, and it’s a failure to address that issue which is the problem. Besides setting up an recurring antagonist as black I found problematic, same if they tried it with Rudy.

Morgan's national background wasn't particularly fundamental to his character though, despite the name's Welsh roots. And in fairness to the original show, whether related to the casting or not, they did tone down his antagonism - he was still strict and suspicious, but without the seeming personal hatred of Harry. 

Granted I saw the series before finding the books, but "rational hardass" vs. "rabid" seems like a good adaptation change to me. A show would struggle with keeping a significant supporting character just an irrational persecutor for as long as it took the books to explain that behaviour.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Adaptation Do's and Don'ts
« on: May 18, 2022, 07:12:27 PM »
Quote from: Yuillegan on May 18, 2022, 06:36:03 AM
Sadly, my expectations are not high given the studio it is with and their track record.

Oh, is there something solid about a studio? I thought we were just speculating Amazon because Prime has been on a bit of a SFF binge.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Adaptation Do's and Don'ts
« on: May 17, 2022, 06:58:30 PM »
Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on May 17, 2022, 06:04:47 PM
Agree with Avasarala on the Expanse, initially appalled, but it really worked.

Especially that they used adding an earlier story for her to introduce the OPA's interest in stealth materials right from the very beginning.  A nod to the readers who understood the significance, and a clever twist on all the viewers who didn't and thought it was a red herring for the season 1 plot instead of a Chekov's Gun for four seasons later.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Adaptation Do's and Don'ts
« on: May 17, 2022, 04:20:49 PM »
In terms of taking lessons from some other adaptations ...

I think the fan base generally understands a TV adaptation has to be streamlined. That's OK, it's going to happen. But if you're going to add significant arcs of new non-book material, it had better 1) clearly do something for the narrative or characterization that the cut stuff didn't work at 2) be done well.  An example of done well would be The Expanse bringing in Avasarala from the start - that introduced one of the fan-favourite characters earlier than in the books, but had her doing things around the book events that largely made sense for what her job would have entailed even if unseen on page. An example of doing additions poorly would be whatever the hell the suicidal warder arc in wheel of time was going for - that bogged down a lot of run time for some exposition that wasn't terribly urgent and could have been covered in a short dialog.

Most especially don't edit fan-favourite protagonists to make them much less likeable so they don't overshadow the producers' favourite characters, or to add unearned "gritty" (again, wheel of time).

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Law and novella
« on: May 17, 2022, 03:51:52 PM »
Quote from: g33k on May 16, 2022, 07:57:11 PM
And where's the "Jim lies" bit?  Not that I disbelieve you... I just didn't see it.

I don't have the link anymore, but in one of his appearances he mentioned there were a very small number of occasions where he had to lie in Q&A's to avoid spoilering things he had planned. I understood that as mostly applying to situations where declining the question would have been a big hint in and of itself.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Law and novella
« on: May 16, 2022, 01:47:09 PM »
There was a WOJ about he's done with surprise family relations as of Thomas, Eb and Maggie.

Anything could have been one of the necessary lies to protect a narrative surprise, but that seems like an odd one to actively mislead on rather than just evade.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Law and novella
« on: May 13, 2022, 01:41:52 AM »
Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on May 12, 2022, 07:19:35 AM
What they did with Bob in the show cut quite badly across the books, especially Dead Beat.

It wasn't what I'd call a faithful adaptation, sure. But the actor and the writers got the sarcastic essence of the character down right, and changing his origin story from the book version of a spirit into a condemned human ghost wasn't anywhere near the worst thing the tv adaptation did.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Law and novella
« on: May 11, 2022, 01:14:41 AM »
Quote from: Mira on May 10, 2022, 11:01:08 PM
They have done well with The Expanse, but have diverted some from the novels.. However that might be because one of the actors wanted to leave.

That was picking up an existing show that already had three seasons of faithful book adaptation on another network, though, not original.

And specifically, he got fired for metoo stuff.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Law and novella
« on: May 10, 2022, 01:47:48 PM »
Quote from: TrueMonk on May 07, 2022, 08:23:04 PM
I am going to go with the positive: maybe it is because there are negotiatings for a high quality series on Amazon prime (if that is the name of their streaming service). And this is part of those negotiations. I have not followed the news about the lord of the rings series, but it sounds like they take it serious.

Their adaptation of Wheel of Time wasn't exactly confidence-inspiring (sure, a lot of the source material aged poorly as modern values are concerned, but a lot of the changes that had nothing to do with that aspect were for the worse).  I hope they don't get Dresden Files.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Little Things [spoilers]
« on: May 06, 2022, 02:53:31 AM »
Quote from: Mira on May 05, 2022, 04:06:35 PM
Cats can be very fast, however I'm surprised that he didn't toy with any of them first.

Makes me wonder about the theory someone mentioned of Mister being a malk scion in service to Lea as an explanation for his unusual size and continuing vitality in old age. That would certainly account for him being smart like that.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Little Things [spoilers]
« on: May 05, 2022, 02:44:52 PM »
Quote from: morriswalters on May 03, 2022, 11:25:27 PM
Well I said I wouldn't buy it.  Kindle solved that problem.  Download a sample for free. The sample is the story.

Nice.

Anyone else have comments on the rest of the anthology, though? Worth / not worth?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry still hosts Lasciel's Shadow
« on: April 28, 2022, 08:07:26 PM »
Possible, but I'm not convinced the smell of brimstone was even so external as anything still riding in Harry's passenger seat.

Soulfire and Hellfire are two sides of the same coin - I think that was Harry on the verge of corrupting Uriel's gift simply out of his own wrath and Winter's influence over how to express it, and the Knights were deployed to get him to step back from that brink.

Pretty sure something 'cheated' to arrange Harry's failure to get a shield up and Rudolph's semi-accidental trigger finger in order to provoke him to such a reaction, too. That might have given Uriel the leeway to move pieces to save Harry's soul.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Did I miss something...?
« on: April 20, 2022, 02:35:30 PM »
Quote from: morriswalters on April 19, 2022, 06:13:18 PM
Mab's reaction to his name in the Chapel pretty much nails it down for me.  But whatever.

I think she believes Namshiel is the mole. I'm not sure she's correct - she can misinterpret things, like Harry's motives toward Molly.

And if Tessa and/or Rosanna are the real Circle mole(s), they may have been expending considerable effort on setting Namshiel up as their fall guy.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is the White Council afraid of Harry Dresden?
« on: April 17, 2022, 05:50:01 PM »
Quote from: RobReece on April 15, 2022, 04:26:46 PM
I'm trying to think when Mouse would have had access to Cowl's scent...
In DB, Cowl was outside in the rain with Harry and Kumori went in to get Bob... while Butters was "taking cover" with Mouse. 
Mouse was at the museum, but is left out of the narrative after that, I don't remember him going to the college...
I don't think there was any opportunity there for Mouse to get his scent, was there any other time that mouse and Cowl were in the same location?
Mouse wasn't with the rescue team in WN at the battle in the Deeps...

It was heavily alluded in the zoo short story segment from Mouse' POV that Cowl and Kumori were the ones who stole the litter of foo puppies from the monastery in the first place.

I've been trying to get "would Mouse still recognize them by scent and hold a grudge?" into an AMA since then, mainly because his lack of hostility toward Elaine in WN might exonerate her if so.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry's possible Denarian form?
« on: April 13, 2022, 04:54:05 PM »
Quote from: g33k on April 12, 2022, 11:21:58 PM
Harry+Lasciel looks an awful lot like unreformed Thomas, actually.  Mirror!Harry is liable to have more than one (mortal) lover... and maybe some immortals too.

I think there was a WOJ about mirror Harry being close allies with Mavra...

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