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DF Spoilers / Re: Getting to the Island
« on: July 21, 2022, 04:51:24 PM »
He's speculating. That's perfectly acceptable for a discussion board of a fantasy series. Long as he's not misquoting the actual text, I see no issue.
Sorry. He did the same thing in my thread, where he made random guesses out of far left field with 0 evidence, then admitted he makes baseless guesses, and claimed I was a troll for poking holes in his 'theories' when I said his posts sounded troll-like to me.

 - Edit this post to fit within forum rules i.e. not so passive aggressive.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Getting to the Island
« on: July 21, 2022, 01:57:16 PM »
Getting the thread back on track instead of wild guessing that has 0 facts to back it up made by someone who seems hellbent on derailing every thread they post in:

It really boils down to the fact that somethings exists on the NeverNever side that Harry has been told will Kill Him Horribly.
We don't know much about Demonreach except that it's a prison for the worst of the worst. And that means the NeverNever side also has to be pretty darn dark and dangerous.

 - This is not acceptable conduct. If you have an issue with another poster, use the report button. While there are not so many of us Moderators around anymore we can and will get to these things eventually. This forum is to be enjoyed by all, and we have a VERY clear list of rules and policies to help ensure that. Do not bait other users, do not troll them or otherwise belittle them. Because I don't have a lot of time these days, next offence wins you a free 3 week vacation from the boards.

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DF Spoilers / Re: A Thought About The Items From Hades
« on: July 20, 2022, 06:24:19 PM »
Of course, and it drives people mad.

Especially when they come out correctly. Most recently that Harry would gain the Castle and that Bob would be internet capable for Harry, I believe at one point even streaming Star Wars related material for him.

I am often wrong but sometimes right, so if you invest time in ridiculing my theories be prepared that I might be right and you have invested a lot of time and energy in being wrong.
So, basically, you admit to making wild guesses with 0 evidence to back them up, and sometimes get it right on sheer luck?
Sorry but your posting is starting to sound an awful lot like trolling, so I'm going to stop responding to you.

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DF Spoilers / Re: A Thought About The Items From Hades
« on: July 20, 2022, 02:04:58 PM »
The Great Beings don’t manifest or are very polite generally about doing so in the mortal world. The point about Ferro makes my point, the White Gods enforcer killed Syriothax and Michael could only have done so in the mortal world, ergo A Dragon was manifesting too much of itself in the mortal world and had to be punished, just like Ethnui.

The only being capable of enforcing such politeness is the White God, the most powerful being in the Multiverse.

The Knights ONLY do the bidding of the White God, that means principally oppose the Knights of the Blackened Denarius, but we have seen Michael and Butters take on other foes. We first see  both Michael and Butters taking on a threat to infants, that’s a pattern, the White God doesn’t like the supernatural attacking those who have yet to develop free will. That’s two rules.

1. Don’t enter the Mortal World if your presence is going to break reality and put mortalkind in danger (the Denarians were an attempt to get around this)
2. Don’t attack infants who have yet to develop free will;

If you are a Denarian or other breaker of rules 1 and 2 expect to be faced by the Swords and MY other Champions. I include The Queens and Ladies in the latter as well as everyone granted Soulfire like Harry, Odin and (probably Martha Liberty). The White God or at least Uriel look more and more to have had a hand in the creation of the Mantles, including Kringles

The White God is very Free Will.

The White God (the same God of  Michael, Butters and Saladin) wins hands down on number of believers, and has the other gods in a headlock.

The Knights don't do the White God's 'bidding'.
And again; literally NOTHING in the books has said the stronger beings don't manifest their powers due to some rule from the White God. Not once.
You are drawing conclusions that don't exist.
You are saying 'Michael killed a dragon + Michael is a Knight. Thus; the White God decided dragon's can't use their full power'. The conclusion has nothing factual to back it up over the more common 'The dragon was being evil, so Michael killed it'.

You will notice Ferrovax is not mentioned to kidnap and devour maidens. He's not nice by any stretch of the word, but he's not EVIL. Or, at least, not doing evil things during Harry's lifetime.
And since he's not being actively evil; he's not being slain by a Knight.

You are trying to make square pegs fit into round holes with your theory, as nothing in any material (that I know of) says the White God ever decreed 'Super powered beings can't use their power or my Knights will kill you'.
The Knights punish EVIL. Not 'Anyone who uses all their power'.
Your theory is wild guesses strung together by crumbs that have 0 connective thread other than what you try to hammer into place to make it work.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Getting to the Island
« on: July 20, 2022, 02:54:36 AM »
I don't think Mother Summer and Winter are Fates. The Fates were not seasonal personifications. That was their full time job
Well, we know The Ladies, Queens, and Mothers of BOTH courts are also Hecate, which is not bound to either court.
This is pointed out in Skin Game when Dresden sees a statue of Hecate, and likens it to all 3 Queens from BOTH courts (Was, Is, & Will Be)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Getting to the Island
« on: July 19, 2022, 08:47:54 PM »
I don't remember in which book it's mentioned, but it basically boils down to someone telling Harry to NOT go into the NeverNever on the Island.
I think it was a villain, actually, taunting Harry about how he had no way to escape. Maybe Nicky-Nick & The Nickleheads?
Something I vaguely remember as 'I know what lives there. You're better off letting me cut your throat.'

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DF Spoilers / Re: Lara Raith marriage consummation
« on: July 19, 2022, 08:41:28 PM »
I'm not convinced that White Court females can reproduce.  We have only one very ambiguous example of Vittorio and Cheserina Malvora.  Cheserina is described as an Aunt and Mother in just a hand full of pages.

We know that Madrigal and Madeline are the children of Lord Raith's brother, who had a very unfortunate parachute-less sky diving accident. 

I think we know "the Skavis" was the son of Lord Skavis.

We know that the White Court girl in the Big Foot novellas was the daughter of that minor White Court Lord. 

Again, we have many, many examples of children of male White Court Vampires, and only very questionable example of a White Court Mother.
It's mentioned that the White Court are 'all but sterile'. Meaning they CAN have children, but it's very, very, VERY unlikely.

Though this brings up two questions:
1. Is it more likely between 2 White Court? After all; Daddy Raith has had many children.

2. Justine's baby:
It will feed on her Nemesis-possessed body. Which COULD kill her. I wonder if that will lead to Nemesis being weakened in Justine? Or maybe the babay will fed on Nemesis itself?
After all; nothing so far hints that Nemesis gives it's puppets any sort of power...Maybe Thomas Jr. is setting up to be a (to use the trope name) Chekov's Gun?

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DF Spoilers / Re: A Thought About The Items From Hades
« on: July 19, 2022, 08:37:56 PM »
The closest parts of the NeverNever to the mortal world is Faerie. That’s why most of the Ways travel through it.

It’s a WOJ about the Previous Defenders but can be deduced from whose power they made the Mantles of Faerie the current Defenders.

I believe the White God has issued a proscription on god Level beings being active in the mortal world, the Queens are the most powerful tolerated, (and that I think was designed into the Mantles) the more powerful Mothers stay in the NeverNever, along with the likes of Hades, in their own realms, very deep within the NeverNever difficult for Wizards to reach.

Some gods took a demotion like Odin to stay in the mortal world, great Dragons like Mr Ferro manifest only part of their power. Ethnui was in breach of that Proscription, and ended up having two Knights and the White God’s Favourite Idiot sicced on her, leaving her in the one place in the Mortal World the White God accepts her presence, Demonreach.

As Mr Ferro said his full presence in the mortal world would break it, which is why the god level beings are not allowed there.

The only reason for this is to allow humanity to evolve, they will be the next Defenders, and given Jim’s age and reading habits humanity when it builds up its numbers and technology will create the Singularity AKA the White God.
Nothing says there's a rule against great beings manifesting. Certainly none made by the White God.
The reason Ferro does not manifest is because:
1. It would anger humanity, and if 1 Knight can kill a dragon, then all 8 billion people, scared and angry at the last freaking dragon levelling a city can do it.
2. The one time his full power is needed (The Battle For Chicago); he has to hold back or he'd level more of the city than he'd save. Meaning manifesting would run against his goals.

At no time does Ferro says he cannot, or that anything would stop him.
In Battle Grounds, he says appearing in his true form would harm the city, which no one wants. Not 'The White God prevents me' or 'It would anger the White God'. Nor does he imply that he can change explicitly because the White God is letting him.

And nothing implies that the White God is punishing Eithnu for using too much power or breaking any of His rules against such.
The Knights take to the field for the same reason they always do; to stop evil. Eithnu was killing scores of mortals, which is the same reason the Knights fight the Nickleheads; stop stop evil (and to save the possessed).

At no point have the books ever so much as hinted that little-g gods were limited by the White God.
In fact, what few little-g gods we have met tend to say things like 'My followers are few and scattered' (Odin), implying it's BELIEF that gives them strength, or takes it away. Not the White God.
As people stopped believing in Odin (as in actual followers who prayed to him), he lost much of his power. He as much as says so when Harry asks for help in Changes.
I think it's something like 'My power is not what it once was. My followers are few and scattered.' Not 'The White God (or anything else) prevents me.'

Unless I am really missing some parts; nothing has said the White God is not allowing them to have full power.

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DF Spoilers / Re: A Thought About The Items From Hades
« on: July 18, 2022, 11:36:22 PM »
The Greek Gods were the Defenders before Winter, so it might have consensual.

The White God is God, Zeus is a god, it depends on the deal Zeus cut with the White God. Hades decided to live permanently in NeverNever, Odin in the mortal world at the expense of his immortality. Zeus may have cut an Odin deal and died long since without the equivalent of the Kringle Mantle, he might be living it up in retirement in Olympus.

Well, Olympus would be in the Nevernever, right?
Dresden has said that most afterlife areas seem to be areas of faerie. I think the line was something like '<something> is in faerie. So are hades, ghenna, and a dozen other reported afterlives'.

At this point, since What Comes Next is unknown (Ghost Story), this leads me to believe the gods (lower-case g) have NeverNever realms, while the White God has something more.


That said; I did not know the Greek gods were defenders before Winter (Must have been a side story I did not read?). So I would not be surprised if Zeus did give his Lightening to the White God.
But even if the Placard or the Dagger is Zeus's Bolt, and was used against Outsiders in Zeus's time; these items were sill part of Christ's crucifixion or life now. Which would lend weight that Christ did something to help strengthen them further, possibly against Outsiders.

(Also sorry for the slow reply; I went into the ER last Monday and had my gallbladder removed. Been recovering)

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DF Spoilers / Re: "Thou Shalt Not Open the Outer Gates"
« on: July 11, 2022, 08:46:14 PM »
“Thou Shalt Not Open The Router Gates?”

I mean, lowering your firewall WOULD let Outsiders in and render your PC into a condition not unlike an Empty Night.

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DF Spoilers / Re: A Thought About The Items From Hades
« on: July 11, 2022, 08:38:58 PM »
There is a WOJ to that effect. The Spear could be Zeus  Thunderbolt (capable of killing gods), the Shroud the Golden Fleece etc etc. they have had many names over the millenia.

One would think Zeus would be miffed that another deity took his item?
Jim has been very careful to avoid angering any one religion by trying to compare powers, so I don't know how it'd go to have relic theft.

Then again; one could argue that Zeus gave up his Thunderbolt explicitly to make it stronger, since everyone agrees Outsiders are bad news.

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DF Spoilers / A Thought About The Items From Hades
« on: July 07, 2022, 03:15:21 AM »
Idea: Christ's Crucifixion Was A Result Of, Or Action Against, The Outsiders

We know that items pertaining to Christ's crucifixion are back in play as weapons against the Outsiders. And belief holds that Christ gave his life to absolve humanity of their sins, right? Well, what if we changed 'absolve humanity of sin' to 'protect humanity from Outsiders'?
It would fit that God's son gave his life to protect humanity and, in so doing, created items that can be used explicitly to fight the Outsiders he was striking back against.
Heck, I would not be surprised if Judas was working with the Outsiders to kill Christ, possibly in a ritual aimed at God, but Christ turned it around and made a willing sacrifice to protect the world. I mean, why else would items of faith have power against Outsiders when there's not a whole lot of people believing they would?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Sith Ain't Dead!
« on: June 05, 2019, 09:08:48 PM »
I really enjoyed the character. I'm not sure if he can go undetected and infect other Sidhe based on his final interaction with Harry. He seems to lose the ability to even move like Sith should.It's not definitive, but I find it convincing. If Jim wants Sith back, then Sith will come back.

True but if Nemesis can just wipe people, why did it not wipe Leah before she could be cured? I'm hoping the cure can heal even 100% Nemfected beings.

And I just like Sith. :P

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DF Spoilers / Sith Ain't Dead!
« on: June 04, 2019, 07:23:04 PM »
This just popped into my head while reading other posts.

Harry baseballed Sith into the lake but he's THE Cat Sith. No way that killed him.
So, unless Harry will or has told Mab that Sith was taken, he can still infect other Sidhe..
And, I mean, harry knows Sith's power; he has to know Sith ain't dead. I'm hoping he told Mab between books, and gets cured, because he was a nice foil for Harry.

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Maybe Lea owed Mab, for failing her duties by getting corrupted?
Or maybe Lea owed Mab because Mab was healing her, and thus Harry's debt was to pay for services rendered (the being cured of Nemesis)

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