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DF Spoilers / Re: Malcolm's murder
« on: April 24, 2019, 03:45:11 PM »
I absolutely love this.
Justin does train Harry in exactly the style Lea seems to prefer when training molly.
 If Lea decided that  Malcolm staying alive would keep Harry from learning magic effectively, he fits all the criteria she would look for.
All it takes is overbroad wording on how Lea should protect harry from ANY threats from Maggie Sr

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DF Spoilers / Re: Exposure to Magic?
« on: April 24, 2019, 03:13:30 PM »
um not trying to be insulting but that's an area where human nature conflicts with religions and its an often broken rule.
being staunchly religious doesn't mean you've never missed the mark or made mistakes.
about staying around, yeah your kinda right, i could think of a lot of minor wounds that could keep him  from hiking out for a few days but i know I'm kinda stretching now

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DF Spoilers / Re: Exposure to Magic?
« on: April 24, 2019, 02:39:28 PM »
I still think that magic ability would have to be interwoven with our core body systems/central nervous system. Dresden first did magic in grade school but i say since before his birth it was already inside him
specificlly it would be forming in the first trimester of the pregnancy like almost all of that stuff does.

this magic forming in a fetus should be by far the most susceptible to outside influence during this time.

Just like the first 2 months or so is when all the craziest and worst birth defects form on humans and the risk to the fetus from drugs is the highest.

     also Charity had just been rescued from death by a knight in shining armor along with some love at first sight stuff.  Its easily possible they got the order of things wrong, got pregnant the first night, then spent a week in a magic lair cleaning up the mess left behind by a dead dragon and cultists.

    Susan early pregnancy would have been running around south America with supernaturals spying on supernaturals.


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DF Spoilers / Re: How was Demonreach filled?
« on: April 23, 2019, 07:59:00 AM »
              What if Merlin was just a past generations kemmler who actually won and made a new white council... sorta.

        Harry has also mentioned more than once he was probably a real bastard,
hes literally the one who first wrote the rule not to do the kind of stuff kemmler did.
            Maybe he had a lot of experience with eating spirits which made him crazy powerful and instead of necromancy his specialty is more enchantments and time travel.  seems like a dark hallow would also work against  some enemy's army or civilians  to some degree, and in the dark ages could have been forgotten

i could see a early wizards quest to gain power from all the powerful creatures around assisted by his mentor Odin and after he gained crazy power from questionable means and after huge spans of time he slowly changes to use his powers for good and is able to modify things a bit to see him in a better light due to him being the mysterious founder of the white council.


not sure if i believe this but it seems to fit better than anything else i can think of

edit: as for creatures being unknowing of demonreach,
Isn't it fact that a large part of the islands magic is mental stuff that's also insanely more complex than anything modern wizards can do?

It has powerful effects on mortals so that over time they decide to forget it exists, which is quite insane for how humans usually act,
also the islands magic is more focused to effect powerful creatures than humans so it stands to reason that those effects wouldn't just effect humans.
something like security through obscurity being a very old concept

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DF Spoilers / Re: Exposure to Magic?
« on: April 03, 2019, 05:48:30 PM »
       Ive just looked into the bare basics on how genetics work for skin and hair color because of interesting things on how my daughter and nephew turned out and learned that how we understand genetics is so oversimplified as to be functionally incorrect.
     It is all way more complex than simple dominant and recessive stuff for most traits is my understanding

          Magic would be an order of magnitude more complex than hair color i would think.
small examples would be the weird traits that wizards have (healing, mage sight, more random powers) would likely be hard-coded somewhere in all that junk DNA that we don't know what it does yet. i would think this would all take a rather large chunk of DNA for all the different things.
              maybe everyone has that stuff but the right genetic match  makes it all become dominant to various degrees.
could be exceptionally powerful magic during first trimester cause birth defects that have a small chance at triggering this dna, remember the level of mages is in single digits per country
or arn't all humans really females at first  anyway and males are made by the Y chromosome modifying bits as we develop,
and all the weird stuff about Maternal DNA lines, maybe that dudes female line ancestor from thousands of years ago had power and the dna has silently been passed along.
I'm sorry if parts of this are wrong.
 I'm not an expert

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DF Spoilers / Re: This I Believe
« on: April 03, 2019, 04:11:37 PM »
as far as the Odin angle goes lets see
"Odin runs a grade-A mercenary group, selling his services to the likes of Marcone and God only knows who else."
seems to me that Marcone is the closest thing to a viking king that we have in modern times.
protect your own and declare war on the rest of the world and build up your kingdom stuff.
its not some fluke that Odin is helping Marcone.
also from the sagas Odin was from  my point of view wandering around looking for power and knowledge more than to help people.

id say helping/nudging Harry Dresden might be the best way to gather a few more powerful objects or magic knowledge sets. 
          tons of directions Jim could go
IE the skin games items being in play now were reason enough to help him and now Dresden sorta owes him a favor. Also Jim hints at Odin having problems with the rest of his pantheon and maybe once he has enough leverage Mab style he will get Dresden to deal with it.

as for Ebeneezer i feel that starting the grey council is telling of his overall motives.
Hes done some bad stuff, hes probably darker than we think but still mostly fighting for the good and is on harry side unless he has good reason not to be.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What's Odin's stake in things?
« on: July 10, 2018, 02:45:27 PM »
i want to point out that injuries almost never leave iron inside of someone.  I was an emt/firefighter for a number of years and you just don't see things like that much. knives/etc usually don't stay in.

 like for 100 trauma calls or vehicle collisions you might get 1 where theres something sticking out.
and that seems to just turn off his mantle so if the mantle wasn't the only thing keeping him conscious he can quickly remove the knife/ect .
99 times out of 100 this magical toughness would be a godsend while once it will be a liability
i don't see the iron thing as much of a disadvantage
bullets are lead and i want to say are usually jacketed with non iron softer metals(copper/brass) so as not to mess up a guns rifling.
when he remakes his duster and isn't fighting naked it will become almost a non issue

the mental effects seem to be a super adrenaline rush which is the exact set of responses evolution has made so people are more likely to survive violent encounters.
If he were to become a lawyer or polititian it would be a liability but dresden is basicly a warrior and these effects already seem to have caused him to survive a few times  when he wouldn't have.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What's Odin's stake in things?
« on: July 08, 2018, 09:42:58 AM »
Odin a god of war for a very violent people.
just because he is likable doesn't mean hes any less cruel or evil than Mab when it comes to accomplishing his goals.
maybe Odin knows Dresden wont go full darkside and he thinks a slightly darker harsher Dresden will do better in the future.


Also maybe all those harsh murdery traits of winter are the side effect of pushing very similar harsh murdery traits that would be necessary for a nation to survive a very bloody, unwinnable and eternal war. or the mental traits of some special forces type who has been on way to many missions.


Also haven't we  seen Odin send out one Valkyrie and mostly to help out the same person. and there have been many times when a squad or 2  would have stopped a very bad situation.
hell he told harry he couldn't spare any of them for harry once didnt he?

and i don't know about the ejherjaren. the only thing i can think of that they have acually done was helping stop the time attack ley spell thing.
which is stopping the end of the world and wasn't their mythology very tied to being dormant until Ragnarök. the fact that odin has them out and about might be a very bad sign.

edit -
eh a high school kid with weapons could easily beat some unarmed special forces guy.
Dresden wont be without his gear forever and he will be able to rebuild it with much more skill.
 That to me is sorta independent of the winter mantle.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What's Odin's stake in things?
« on: July 03, 2018, 09:56:23 AM »
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he could have told Harry that taking Molly to Chichen Itza was a really bad idea.
    Was it a bad idea to someone with foresight?
            Didn't that lead to a chain of events which Molly went from a relative weakling to a major power and who knows where she will end up?
She was going to keep jumping into every fight and  Dresden didn't train her well enough for that. Now she can survive them and her dieing wont turn Dresden to the dark side of the force. 


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DF Spoilers / Re: What's Odin's stake in things?
« on: July 03, 2018, 09:45:16 AM »
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Odin may have a way and now is in a position to offer Harry a way out if he grants him a favor.
Maybe but,

wild guess here. Could Mab molly or mother winter just release him from service. any tricks Odin knows one of them should also know.
1 Mab needs Dresden for whats to come.
2 His lack of loyalty is causing her big problems.
3 sometime in the next 4 books he will realise that the world could very well end before Maggie is old enough for college.
4 harry could just go to Mab and offer her complete loyalty for the duration of the whatever it is and in return he keeps his soul and gets to retire back to plain wizardness if they all survive.

Mab is very practical about these things ya know.
 and she doesn't seem to be a fan of having strong knights around long term anyway.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What's Odin's stake in things?
« on: July 03, 2018, 09:19:09 AM »
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It could be that Odin lost a good deal of power to move to the mortal realm.  He probably couldn't take on the LOONs directly anymore, they'd gang up on him and kill him.  But he could show up and fight their minions.

but he doesn't seem to have lost any of his knowledge and hes the one who taught OG merlin the demon reach creation level magic wasn't he?
And he seems to have retained the king of the gods level information network through his raven things and other spies
       So he cant stand toe to toe against them but he could cheat so bad in fights he would make Dresden's tricks seem like a 2 year old. I would guess that he might not be that far from  harry's demonreach inteliectus but everywhere when you combine all that and extra mantles and the senior council level powerups he probably has stashed away after doing his thing with  freedom to act for a long time.

Now to the main thing. Ive wanted to mention this for a while now.
If you think it through being the winter knight is great for Dresden.
Everyone gets way to hung up on Mab being unlikeable and ignores the big picture.

Think back through every single thing Mab has had Dresden do and they're all things he would have wanted to do anyway but couldn't have pulled it off on his own.
           Lets see Mab ordered him to stop a Faye war she couldn't stop on her own that would have at least sent civilization back to the stone age.   um yeah how dare she.
           Some very convoluted plot which resulted in molly not being executed and a major blow against the  red vampires. once again how dare she.
          She gives him the magic muscle and even coordinates allies for him to completely destroy the red court and save himself, blackstalf,maggie, maybe the Wraiths.
         Orders him to help in a plot that ultimately stopped marcone or the archive from becoming a denarian.
gets him to stop the outsiders from destroying the universe, and gets rid of 2 n-fected high positions and the summer lady whos too stupid to be a leader during the Apocalypse.
        gets him to stop the denarians from getting a massive power up and gets him the massive power up and a few mill in diamonds.
         has the leanshe kill thousands of things that try to come through the never never to kill him, Also has her watch over him very closely since he was born. Has the leanshe protect then hand over all of the knowledge of the ways from Maggie SR.
( the leanshe is COMPLETELY loyal remember.   Her actions are supported by Mab.

Mab seems to be preparing to lead earth through apocalyptic level dangers and Dresden is becoming her main problem solver.

Why wouldn't Odin push harry towards that?


Harry always rushes at things with no thoughts to the danger.
        The winter court has always been watching and insuring its possible for him to win his various fights.

Also in case you missed it Mab seemed to want or at least be fine with a romantic relationship between Dresden and her daughter whom she was grooming for power.with Molly as the backup so no shes not going to kill dresden for something minor.

 She has a crazy amount invested in him by now.
 It seems from my point of view that Mab has been viciously protective of Dresden even too the point of ignoring all her duties and risking all out war with summer to keep Dresden's body alive.
which means keeping Dresden alive was more important to her than losing 6 -9 of time when she has a LOT on her plate.

Yes she acts very mean to him. That is necessity to shape him into someone who will be able to survive what she knows is coming.



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DF Spoilers / Re: Are there more wizards like Elaine?
« on: June 25, 2018, 06:47:37 AM »
i feel the need to point out that pre Internet, paranet, and mass information sharing, it would have been almost impossible to self train yourself without a rebel wizard of some sort teaching you directly, or stealing books from practitioners likely much stronger than you.

Now though you could probably have a weaker paraneter download scores real magic spell books deep on the bit torrent network or the darknet and print them out for a paranoid young wizard. id say give it 50 years to develop and that situation with secret council level mages will increase exponentially.
im talking about the apprentice stages because after the basics wizards don't seem to need much outside help to improve.
for example i downloaded dozens of rare old occult books once just to skim through, there were WAY more available.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Magical Resilience to Medical Malady
« on: June 25, 2018, 06:25:17 AM »
Yes but what I'm saying is that the genetic component IS that your more prone to your body making bad copies for these things, no mater what your genetic component is it takes a full lifetime of your cells constantly replicating and doing it worse each time for you to get these. i believe the ends of the DNA chains actually start to get lost after a long life.


Genetic disorders that you seem to be talking about are things like heart valves formed incorrectly. if it brakes something critical you die, if it breaks other stuff you have whatever problems from that.  thats not a replication error, thats a blueprint error.
 The environmental factors lead to things being tougher on the cells and they may start to have runaway broken replication sooner(cancer).
wizards would only have to be super careful about things that could kill a person rather quickly like poisonings, radiation etc on the environmental side,

like for smoking the epithelial cells in the lungs that get damaged by the smoke get replaced by a different type that is more prone to cancer, alvioli grows back thicker and not very good at its job. but even with smoking only half of smokers die from smoking and it takes a LONG time in most cases.


Also i wouldn't worry too much about Alzheimer's and dementia for plot reasons
There are literally dozens of other mental disorders that are also barely understood and don't seem to be age related any any way.
and since we know this stuff only helps for so long, anyone senior council age would start to become susceptible to all this stuff again.

 To be clear im just theorizing with all this

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DF Spoilers / Re: Magical Resilience to Medical Malady
« on: June 19, 2018, 09:28:52 AM »
From a more medical perspective Dresden's healing and longevity is based on more perfect DNA and cell replication,

without better DNA replication he would start having all the problems vanillas do once they get past age 65 or so. Having a body that can still correctly clone cells after 350 years would have to rule out a large chunk of all age related diseases for it to make sense.
 I mean all types of cancers at the most basic level is cells copying wrong. its not like theres some external thing attacking the body.


 heart and lung disease are the 2 leading killers and those  usually kill people from wear and age related damage done over at least 40 years, his complete heal times have always been predicted as much shorter than that so heart and lung disease as it kills vanilla mortals wouldnt matter
 dementia and alzehimers can be dumbed down to brain cells not copying right.  elderly people have something like 7-9% less brainmass than when they were young which help cause these.

EDIT
 can someone with more medical training then me think this through.
my thoughts from half forgotten paramedic training is that almost every disease that you cant really get before age 50 wouldnt apply To wizards.
any diseases based on bacteria, viruses, fungus genetic defects would effect them the same as a healthy young person
 well until this mechanism for DNA replication seems to fail around 300-400 years old at least

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DF Spoilers / Re: FB Woj share(update)
« on: June 13, 2018, 06:50:15 AM »
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I think all we can really take away from that is that Vadderung is an oddball.  What it does not say, or even really hint one way or the other, is whether he was able to stay relevant with his full Immortal Power intact or whether he had to give it (or something else) up.

hmm that reminds me of the Odin from Norse mythology, 
The guy who would disappear for long periods of time as he walked alongside humanity in is quests for wisdom.

             some of you guys must know this better than me but Odin didn't really rely on any typical godlike powers, the  mythologies we still know about him mostly focus on Odin learning all kinds of knowledge in crazy ways, it seems perfectly in line with that for Odin to give up the god side of his powers to focus on gaining more knowledge/wisdom/magic, whatever, and the series has portrayed him as knowing just about everything.


the point im trying to make is that all that knowledge was his main focus and he most likely is now in a mortal (but still wizard level) body, but he can wield his low amount of power with his godlike cunning and knowledge base so hes only kinda mortal.
 Remember bob explaining the insanely complex magic behind demon reach.

the oddball stuff is true because the rest of the old gods would never consider trading in for a mortal body

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