I'm trying to figure out whether it was Marcone's position as a signatory of the Accords and Harry's position as the Winter Knight that allowed them to summon banners or if it was actually their positions' as Baron and Wizard of Chicago?

Basically was it the Accords that empowered them or the city's faith in them?

Thoughts?

I was reflecting on the whole prophecy of King Corb not dying until "the sun lights the bottom of the ocean" and I realized there are several ways that he could bite the bullet:

• Someone pulls a Morgan and drops a Hydrogen Bomb on him.
• Harry masters gravity magic and combines it with his heat rearranging skills to start nuclear fusion at the bottom of the ocean
• A Sun God kills him personally (Apollo, Ra, Ekhi, Lugh, someone up that alley)
• Harry learns how to shapeshift becomes a Giant Mantis Shrimp and punches him in the face. Killing him with Sonoluminescence (this is the least likely but also the funniest to me)

So what do you think? In an era where Mortals can make a backpack lightsaber that gets to 73% of the heat of the sun something tells me this is a situation like the Judge from Buffy. Your invulnerability was impressive but we've moved past that.

Hello Everyone on the Paranet forums, I’ve been lurking for a while and normally talk Dresden with my cousin but he won’t get to BG until after the New Year and I wanted to bounce this theory off of you fine people instead!

The core of the theory is thus:

During one of the Great Celestial Wars before time and reality began when something was defeated it was cast OUT from the Never never as opposed to being cast down. This chunk of primeval being that got thrown sideways through what would become time broke the barely defined walls of reality and landed Outside. The beings of Outside were so damaged and enraged by the taint of reality in what had been their un-reality that they started to invade. Thus the victors of the Great Celestial War had to turn around and start to defend the walls of reality shortly after winning.

What defines whether or not they are a corporeal Outsider like Sharkface or an incorporeal Outsider like Nemesis is whether or not they feasted on the flesh of whatever it was or just decided to come check out this new glowing hole without stopping for a quick snack. Given that they were exposed to an unformed reality and this unknown primordial power it explains why normal magic cannot hurt them, similar to Ethniu it just isn’t matter to them. It is like us being hit by Neutrinos or something like that, it’s too small and insignificant to do anything material.

This brings us to the Starborn. Whatever was cast OUT radiated light, and given that we know physics is pretty similar in the Dresden Universe we can assume that light red shifts as well due to Universal expansion. This means that whatever light was being diffused is likely faded into universal background radiation. Something figured out that this light could damage the beings that were let IN through what would become the gates so they rearranged the stars and the planets to recompress the light to it’s original frequency as it shines on Earth every 666 years or so, this produces the Starborn.

Potential Wars (By no means a comprehensive list and I’ve left the Chinese celestial wars off as they happened on Earth and we have archeological proof that they happened. Feel free to tell me I’m wrong)
-   The Ӕsir – Vanir War of Norse Mythology
-   The Titanomachy (Greek Myth)
-   The Gigantomachy (Greek Myth)
-   The War in Heaven (Abrahamic Faiths)
-   The Battle of the Devas and Asuras (Hindu Myth)
-   Cath Maige Tuired (Celtic Mythology)

Potential Beings (By no means a comprehensive list)
-   Lucifer
-   Lucifer’s grace
-   Typhoon (or any Giant)
-   Chronus (or any Titan)
-   The many, many, many beings struck down by Vishnu or an avatar (though I do wonder if Vishnu is the god behind Odin/Beowulf/Kringle or at least his Hindu equivalent)
-   Lilith (praying this isn’t the case as it would be so freaking Lazy)
-   A world serpent or dragon (Jörmungandr, the Beast of Revelations, or something like that)

My personal pick is that when Lucifer was cast down, he was stripped of his grace and that was what got cast OUT. He was known as the Morning Star, the rebellion happened before the stars were born (to quote Mr. Sunshine: “I was fighting wars when this planet was nothing but a cloud of dust and gas”), and Starborn are born every 666 years. This theory wraps up the mystery of the Starborn, the Outer Gates, and why the fallen may work at cross-purposes to the Outsiders. I’m sure there’s something I’m missing so have at it!