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The Dresden Files => DFRPG => Topic started by: Bjornaer on April 06, 2013, 10:58:35 AM
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So far, we know of three White Court emotions that can be used:
Lust
Fear
Despair
I'm trying to find more that are both playable and feelt right:
Intoxication???
Idleness?
Vanity?
Wrath? (better: anger!)
Greed?
Pride?
Envy?
Gluttony?
edited to include comments
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I'm against Intoxication as it is more a state than an emotion; that is, intoxication rather amplifies what you're normally feeling were you sober, so if you were happy or angry about something, now you're very happy or very angry about it.
I think I'm okay with the others, though I believe Paranoia is more properly replaced by Fear.
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Idleness = apathy or sloth. I just like those terms better.
I was also thinking Gluttony, since that's one of the deadly sins, but I'm not sure if that counts as an emotion.
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Envy or jealousy
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So apart from those world of darkness things, anything else?
And which of these is playable?
I think sloth is really scary:
Imagine in a fight, you just feel too lazy to shoot the other guy...
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A problem with a lot of these suggestions is coming up with a good counter emotion. Lust have love, but what is the opposite of apathy?
Remember also that the opposite has fall in the happy middle ground between too common and too rare.
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The opposite of apathy is ambition.
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I'm actually going to roll a new character that has doubt/suspicion/paranoia as his emotion. The counter is true faith. Plus, he's going to be afflicted with Cassandra's Tears.
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I've seen Greed and Wrath done well.
I think Sloth, Pride, and Gluttony also ought to work. With Industry, Humility, and Temperance as the opposites.
Envy would be trickier. And Intoxication just seems kind of wrong to me.
Dunno what else might work...Confusion, maybe?
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Y'know, going by the list of stuff Love isn't that Thomas rattles off it would make sense for Love to counter lots of WCV stuff.
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Envy with the opposite being generosity.
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I had a group of envy vampires in a DC game. They had a good scam going with a bit of manipulation and bribery of city officials...at least until the PCs interfered. A defensive envy block was kind of fun...just at the moment of attacking they'd be distracted by that very cool thing (insert item here) someone nearby had. ;D
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Envy wouldn't really be that hard, it's the malicious desire of something that you don't have. Apparently there's supposed to be a positive application of envy as well, but I didn't read that part too closely since I didn't figure on that being a likely thing for a WCV to be concerned about.
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Once more, I realize how Christian the Dresdenverse is. Lust is a bad emotion, and the 7 deadly sins are appropriate.
KOFFEYKID speaks of extremes and the middle ground. which I like a lot. Aristotles ethics might provide further examples that go beyond Christianity.
Insecurity?
frigidity? (hard to play, sounds like a dirty joke, better: near impossible to play)
chattiness? (Is that an emotion?)
shame?
curiosity?
stubbornness?
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Shame actually feels spot on for a WCV!
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I'm shocked that no one has mentioned plain simple anger. Thought about a mercenary type WC clan that instigates conflict. They use their powers to cause conflicts which helps their client (most likely warmongering profiteers who sell guns, etc.) do business.
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I'm shocked that no one has mentioned plain simple anger. Thought about a mercenary type WC clan that instigates conflict. They use their powers to cause conflicts which helps their client (most likely warmongering profiteers who sell guns, etc.) do business.
Wrath is a very common "non-canon" WCV-emotion, even suggested in YS. I can't really see a clear enough delineation between Anger and Wrath, how would you describe them so they are different enough?
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Butcher differentiates between anger in one of his novels, Changes or Ghost Story, I believe. One is for the good guys, one for the bad guys. I thought the distinction was odd when I read about it.
I like anger better than wrath. It sounds less WASPy.
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Once more, I realize how Christian the Dresdenverse is. Lust is a bad emotion, and the 7 deadly sins are appropriate.
KOFFEYKID speaks of extremes and the middle ground. which I like a lot. Aristotles ethics might provide further examples that go beyond Christianity.
Insecurity?
frigidity? (hard to play, sounds like a dirty joke, better: near impossible to play)
chattiness? (Is that an emotion?)
shame?
curiosity?
stubbornness?
Some of these are personality traits and not really emotions. I just try to think of all the different feelings I might have throughout the course of the week.
It might help to say the phrase, "I'm feeling...." and see what you come up with.
Frustration could be one, actually. Hrm...I guess it's been that kind of week ;)
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Some of these are personality traits and not really emotions. I just try to think of all the different feelings I might have throughout the course of the week.
It might help to say the phrase, "I'm feeling...." and see what you come up with.
Frustration could be one, actually. Hrm...I guess it's been that kind of week ;)
I'm feeling...
...hungry
...thirsty
...tired
...drunk
It doesn't give me emotions for some reason.
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lol.
O.k...I guess it doesn't work. I'm feeling Embarrassed! :)
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:)