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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: June 11, 2010, 10:51:05 PM »
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Butters... Well I am not really sure how old he is, but being a medical examiner I just imagined he would be at least late 30's if not 40's. I guess they are a little older for the part, Buscemi is 52, Reubens is 57. But I think the fit the character perfectly with the polka playing and the qwerkiness and geekiness.
I definitely cannot see Simon Pegg for this part......Waldo Butters with a British accent.....not feeling that.

Simon Pegg is an actor, and actors often act in different accents. The fact that he is British isn't a disqualifier.

Here's how Butters is described:

from Dead Beat:
Butters was a little guy, maybe five-foot-three in his shoes, maybe 120 pounds soaking wet....He had a shock of wiry black hair that gave him a perpetual look of surprise that stopped just short of being a perpetual look of electrocution.

"Screw up my life?" He stared a me for a second and then said, deadpan, "I'm a five-foot-three, thirty-seven-year-old, single, Jewish medical examiner who needs to pick up his lederhosen from the dry cleaners so that he can play in a one-man polka band at Oktoberfest tomorrow." He pushed up his glasses with his forefinger, folded his arms, and said, "Do your worst."


from White Night:
Butters was an odd little duck. He wasn’t much taller than Murphy, and she probably had more muscle than he did. His shock of black hair resembled nothing so much as an explosion in a steel wool factory. He was all knees and elbows, especially in the surgical greens he was wearing, his face was lean and angular, his nose beaky, and his eyes were bright behind the prescription glasses.

Sorry but 5'10" (approx.) and not-odd-looking-at-all David Wenham would be totally wrong for Butters imo.

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Molly... so she looks older than her age, I don't think that means when she is 14 she looks like she is 25, I think it means when she is 14 she looks like she is 17.

But she is around 17-18 in Proven Guilty, when she actually becomes one of the main characters, not 14.

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Dakota is a little skinny, but she has played similar roles, Push and Twilight Saga, so I think that qualifies her more than anyone else suggested thus far. Plus yeah she looks young right now because she is 16, she might even fill out some to.

Maybe she could bulk up but can she grow taller than 5'3"?

Description of Molly from Proven Guilty:

She strongly favored her mother, Charity. Both of them were tall for women, only an inch or two under six feet, both of them blond, fair, blue- eyed, and both of them built like the proverbial brick house, somehow managing to combine strength, grace and beauty that showed as much in their bearing, expression, and movement as it did in their appearance.

I just cannot see Dakota Fanning as Molly at all.

But I could definitely get behind Stephen Lang as Morgan though, much more than Jason Statham, who imo, has rather limited acting abilities.

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Sorry rose but have to disagree with most of these for a movie .....Meg Ryan (48) as Murphy -  I loved Meg Ryan when I was growing up. Michelle Pfeiffer, Kathy Ireland, etc. These were my generation of celebrity females. But Meg is little old now to be Murphy. And Meg didn't age well either.

I have to disagree with that list too, and you're so right that Meg didn't age well. Not to mention, the bad plastic surgery that turned her into the Joker with fish lips.

Murphy is a hard one to cast, because I have a very specific image of what she should look like from the books:

from Storm Front:
Karrin and I are a study in contrasts. Where I am tall and lean, she's short and stocky. Where I have dark hair and dark eyes, she's got Shirley Temple blond locks and baby blues. Where my features are all lean and angular, with a hawkish nose and a sharp chin, hers are round and smooth, with the kind of cute nose you'd expect on a cheerleader.

from Blood Rites:
Lt. Karrin Murphy, the woman in charge of the Special Investigations division of Chicago PD, stood an even five feet...She was attractive in a pleasantly wholesome kind of way-crystal blue eyes, clear skin, an upturned nose.

Murphy wasn't going to qualify under anyone's definition of willowy or svelte , but she had the build of a gymnast-tough, flexible, and strong.


I can't think of any actress for the role myself, although I can certainly think "no!" to suggestions. :D

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: June 11, 2010, 12:24:49 AM »
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I personally think it's more important that they have the attitude of the character (OF COURSE, what they look like is seriously important too), but am just saying. xD

I don't disagree, but for me, the look is more important. I don't care if an Oscar-winning actor gets cast as a Dresden character and has the attitude - if they look nothing like the physical description of that character, that would be a fail for me.

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does Kincaid really have long blond hair? I don't remember that. Does anyone have the exerpt where the describe Kincaid's physical description?

from Death Masks:
He was nearly as tall as me but looked a lot more solid....A black ball cap reined in dark golden hair that might have fallen to his shoulders.

Kincaid walked in, in the same outfit I'd seen that morning, but without the baseball cap. His dark blond hair was instead pulled back into an unruly tail.


from Blood Rites:
He was a big guy, almost my own height, with dark golden hair just long enough to look a little exotic.

The lean mercenary was dressed in greys and dull blues, very nondescript, and had his hair pulled into a ponytail under a black baseball cap.


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As far as ASkars trumping Statham...AGREED! Eric Northman character is probably my favorite True Blood character, I can't wait til that comes back on. But I picked Statham because I picture Kincaid more rugged, and ASkars is too pretty for the Kincaid in my head, he did play a Meekus (green shirt) in Zoolander after all.

But ASkars also played Iceman in Generation Kill:


And actually, Rudy Reyes from Generation Kill would make a pretty good Ramirez!


Steve Buscemi or Paul Reubens as Butters - how old is Butters supposed to be anyway? Because those suggestions seem too old to me.

As far as how old Molly is when she becomes a major character, I am pretty sure that Molly is supposed to look older than her actual age. So to me, casting someone who looks really young like Dakota Fanning, does not work for me. Not to mention, I have a big problem with her skinny built for Molly.

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: June 10, 2010, 08:56:18 AM »
@ MoSeS_

Re: the poll for who could play Harry

Hmm....I disagree with most of those choices - LOL! I love Nathan Fillion but I cannot see him as Harry at all. He'd make a better Michael but I picture Michael as being older.

Murphy - I think Hayden Panettiere's built is what any actress playing Murphy should have, but Hayden Panettiere would be totally wrong for the role. The problem is finding actresses with that sort of built, especially in Hollywood. Even if they start out with a more solid, muscular body type, they almost inevitably diet and exercise to become your typical skinny size zero. Look at the difference between Buffy S1 Sarah Michelle Gellar, and S2+.

I guess for me, I like to see an actor or actress actually look like the character as described, so when I read many of the suggestions, I just go, too thin! Too scrawny! NOT built like a brickhouse! NOT handsome enough! Too porky! I'm just particular that way.  ;D

Boris Kodjoe for Sanya - Check out this video of him. Also, he's going to be in the new J.J. Abrams spy series called Undercovers.

Kincaid - I think ASkars trumps Jason Statham any day! Besides, isn't Kincaid supposed to have long blond hair that he wears in a ponytail sometimes? Would be problematic for Jason Statham unless they put him in a hairpiece.

Ramirez - guess I still have bad associations when it comes to Freddy Rodríguez since I mostly know him from Six Feet Under, and I pretty much hated Rico towards the end of that show! Besides, Gael Garcia Bernal would make a very pretty Warden. Albeit, a tad hard to believe as a virgin.....

Bill Nighy for Nic - as much as I am a stickler for "actor must look like character as described in the books," I'll make an exception here as I just love Bill Nighy and he would be awesome as Nic.

Megan Fox as Madeline Raith - I chose Megan as I actually do not care for her. She's been described as the poor man's Angelina Jolie, and to me, she is perfect as the overblown, too-obvious, trying-way-too-hard Madeline. Somehow, I always pictured her as being younger than Lara.

Vincent Cassal as Lord Raith: I agree he has the predatory cruelty quality, but handsomer than Thomas? Any of the Thomases suggested so far? That's a major fail for me.

And I thought of someone for Butters: Simon Pegg! Here he is, with dark hair.

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Display Case / Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« on: June 08, 2010, 07:38:08 AM »
Having read the entire thread, I have come to the conclusion that it is really hard to cast the DF book characters because you have to find actors and actresses who look the parts, and can act! I honestly think that for some of the Sidhe characters, they'd have to be CGI creations, a la Avatar.

For Harry, I definitely agree with the Timothy Olyphant suggestion, especially if he were to grow his hair longer. I can also see Lee Pace as Harry. He certainly has the right height. Also, he's used to working with a doggy co-star.

Murphy: I have no frickin' idea! I always picture Murphy as someone built like Hayden Panettiere - petite, muscular, gymnast body. But she's too young and I don't like her anyway. I cannot see Sarah Michelle Gellar in the role as she is way too skinny. There were times on Buffy when I honestly thought she was going to break her stick-like arms when she pretended to pound on the baddies, or even the heavy bag during workouts.

Michael: Definitely agree with the Viggo Mortensen suggestion.

Charity: I like Samantha Ferris, but she is only 5'5". Elizabeth Mitchell from Lost and V would be my second choice although she isn't as solidly built as I would prefer.

Molly: Deborah Ann Woll. Yes, she's 25 but she plays teen vamp Jessica on True Blood, and she's 5'10". Someone suggested Dakota Fanning but she is way too skinny and only 5'2". Molly is supposed to be built like her mother, i.e. like a brick house. Dakota Fanning is built more like a short light house.

Sanya: Boris Kodjoe

Ivy: That creepy girl from the movie The Orphan.

Kincaid: Alexander Skarsgard or Josh Holloway from Lost.

Carlos Ramirez: Gael Garcia Bernal or Diego Luna

Luccio: If Jennifer Garner is too obvious, how about Carey Mulligan?

Marcone: Jason Isaacs, Ralph Fiennes or Guy Pearce.

Nic: Bill Nighy

Lara Raith: Can't beat the obvious choice, Angelina Jolie

Madeline Raith: Megan Fox

Lord Raith: has to be more handsome than Thomas, so no one comes to my mind.

And lastly...Thomas. I have to admit that I thought of Matt Bomer as well. I can also see Michael Fassbender, who has been mentioned.

I suggest Henry Cavill from The Tudors. See him with long hair, and shirtless, dirty and fighting.

My personal pick is someone probably no one has heard of! English ballet dancer/actor Will Kemp. Dubbed the "James Dean of Ballet," he may be best known for this Gap commercial from some years back. Will as the Swan in the all-male version of Swan Lake. He's who I picture as Thomas when I read the books.

Also, this poster for Dorian Gray made me think that Ben Barnes (aka Prince Caspian) might be a possible Thomas.

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