So heres the story, some valley girl npc was possesed by some strange magic that gave her the odd ability to make any kind of lipstick explosive, as in write on a surface with it and kablooey, touch a girls lips and boom etc. The WCV trying to be a good samaritan to this otherwise innocent woman made her fear lipstick to a deathly degree.

Later on her friends with lipstick on try to help her get up after falling, she flails being afraid of the lipstick her friend has on and boom her friends face explodes on contact with her hand.

The wizard now wants to undo the WCV's mental changes and take a different approach... Does this count as messing with her mind though and technically breaking a law? Wizards are usually allowed to dispel another wizard's effects on a person but what if they are mental in nature? Is it still just dispelling or is it now a lawbreaking affair?

My players took a look at the stunt creation and came up with a couple stunts that didn't sit right with me but seemed within the confines of existing stunts.

In fists there is a stunt that lets you use fists as defense against anything athletics does, which is basically everything physical. One player wanted to do the opposite and let athletics serve as a fists attack, like a linebacker plowing through people or juggarnaut etc.

It seems to be within the new trapping rules, but it effectively consolidates physical defense and attack into one skill. So he takes no real detriment from putting 5 into it and then he desired to take a shapeshifting power so he could dump refresh into athletics, as well as supernatural speed( I think this might only effect defense though... ).

Also the one for conviction that allows its use as a defensive block. That doesn't reduce damage does it? I said h*** no but I may be wrong.

Opinions? The other ideas were similar in consolidation nature.

Can't remember if I just glossed this over, but I don't recall any rules for summoning and forming ectoplasm, during some char creation sillyness my players had some really wacky ideas that seem almost doable under the rules. But I don't remember rules for ectoplasm, was it evocation? Thaumaturgy? Heres a couple ideas they ran by me.

Spiderman like ectoplasm slinging. All this would really be is forming a rope with ectoplasm spanning from your hand to where ever. I don't think it is too complicated.

Or an alternative to this batman grappling hook. actually having a bungee cord attached to your body and just using evocation to "throw" it a ways away hurling you with it.

One thing they haven't thought of is how to stop once they've flung themselves, but I'll let them know that once their face is in a wall.

Also one of the more wacky ideas was forming a gundam like construct of ectoplasm and then piloting it. Someone had the even more amazing notion of everyone having it in the form of ludicrous thaumaturgic spells and combining them into a megazord. Silly I know and I would never allow it, but I was still curious of it can be done in the system which would be AWESOME.

Also how would someone add flying powers to a construct?