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Title: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: KurtinStGeorge on March 18, 2020, 06:05:11 AM
Read the March 17 announcement
https://www.jim-butcher.com/
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: magnuskn on March 18, 2020, 09:45:32 PM
I'm actually incredibly jealous of Jim already having a printed copy of his own book four months before its release. Which probably means the publishers already have all of them printed and are holding them book for some sort of release window. Which, one hopes, does not get pushed by back certain viral problems...  :-\

Anyway, good picture. And also looking forward to the trailer.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Regenbogen on March 18, 2020, 10:10:49 PM
I'm actually incredibly jealous of Jim already having a printed copy of his own book four months before its release. Which probably means the publishers already have all of them printed and are holding them book for some sort of release window. Which, one hopes, does not get pushed by back certain viral problems...  :-\

Anyway, good picture. And also looking forward to the trailer.

Yeah! It's really unfair. Now he knows first hand whats in the book.  ;)  ;D

July is near. Excitement is here.

Edit: and the internet didn't like me to finish my post somehow. At least it wasn't suddenly all gone. ;)
I would have wanted to add: And the trailer is almost here.
Happy, happy. Joy, joy.

Edit #2: also it would be nice to be that dog for a while... ;)
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Dina on March 18, 2020, 11:54:29 PM
@Regenbogen  ;D ;D

I loved the picture but I want to know who is the dog????

Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: g33k on March 19, 2020, 12:55:01 AM
I'm actually incredibly jealous of Jim already having a printed copy of his own book four months before its release. Which probably means the publishers already have all of them printed and are holding them book for some sort of release window. Which, one hopes, does not get pushed by back certain viral problems...  :-\

Anyway, good picture. And also looking forward to the trailer.

Gonna be hardback only, at first.  Those are likely still being produced.

Jim is holding what the industry calls a "trade paperback" or sometimes an "early reader copy".  There will be a few hundred of these sent to book reviewers / etc, so the reviews can drop appropriately... Day-1, or week-before, or whatever the reviewers NDA says.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Bad Alias on March 19, 2020, 03:12:55 AM
Always heard it called an ARC or advanced reader copy.

I doubt the virus will stop the book from being published on time or shipped to your home on time. I doubt things will still be on lock down then, but even if they are, I think they would at least publish the e-book. I know I'd buy it day one (or at least week one) whereas I usually don't.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Mira on March 19, 2020, 04:19:11 AM
@Regenbogen  ;D ;D

I loved the picture but I want to know who is the dog????

Safe to say it isn't Mouse..
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: magnuskn on March 19, 2020, 06:35:05 AM
Gonna be hardback only, at first.  Those are likely still being produced.

Jim is holding what the industry calls a "trade paperback" or sometimes an "early reader copy".  There will be a few hundred of these sent to book reviewers / etc, so the reviews can drop appropriately... Day-1, or week-before, or whatever the reviewers NDA says.

Thanks, that makes much more sense. Of course we all will be buying hardcovers.

I wonder how nearby to a GRRM book Peace Talks will be in size. We don't know how big the font used in this advanced reader copy Jim is reading was. ^^
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Dina on March 19, 2020, 06:44:13 AM
Thanks, that makes much more sense. Of course we all will be buying hardcovers.

Not me. I have already pre-ordered the book for kindle, I could never pay the taxes, shipping costs and all that jazz. Not now, with the crisis my country is facing. Besides, it would take forever to arrive here. So no, I rather have it the day it is released so I don't have to wait to begin reading.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Regenbogen on March 19, 2020, 09:33:05 AM
Not me. I have already pre-ordered the book for kindle, [...] Besides, it would take forever to arrive here. So no, I rather have it the day it is released so I don't have to wait to begin reading.
Yes, me too. But one day I will buy the paperback version to touch and smell. And the audiobook, because James Marsters will read again. He got me addicted to the audio version. I just wanted to listen into one book (Full Moon), but now I'm already at Turn Coat. Helped me a lot not to get angry in a traffic jam in January, in fact I was rather dissapointed, that the cars were moving again after half an hour.  ;)
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: magnuskn on March 19, 2020, 04:13:48 PM
Okay, depending on how the virus crisis goes, I might also go for an e-book along with the hardcover, just to make sure it's here for my birthday on July 21st. :)
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Bad Alias on March 19, 2020, 05:28:29 PM
I usually wait to buy a used hardback as I like to have an e-book and a hard copy.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: morriswalters on March 19, 2020, 08:25:21 PM
The book seemed kinda small in Jim's hand and it was a paperback. Prop?  The Kindle version and the audiobook for me.  Not collecting hardbacks any longer.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Dina on March 19, 2020, 08:42:50 PM
I have all the books in paper. Most of them in paperback, a couple of them in hardback. But since many books ago I buy the kindle as soon as it is available and whenever I can, no hurries, I buy the paperback. One of them I bought in UK and it made me so happy  :)
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Maz on March 23, 2020, 09:30:03 PM
Hrm, the fact that it might be smaller could lend credence to the idea that it was split into two books, Peace Talks and Battlegrounds...
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Mira on March 23, 2020, 09:50:59 PM
Hrm, the fact that it might be smaller could lend credence to the idea that it was split into two books, Peace Talks and Battlegrounds...

  If it was split into two books we'd have heard about it before now..  Possible, but don't spend any coin before it is confirmed by a trusted source,  Jim or Priscilla...
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: CrusherJen on March 28, 2020, 09:27:40 AM
@morriswalters: It's not unusual for a hardcover release to have a paperback ARC. I saw that more than once when I was lucky enough to work in a bookstore.  ;)
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Regenbogen on March 29, 2020, 12:22:24 PM
I just wanted to say something about the trailer: I think, the guy playing Harry is a really good match. I said to myself, yes, that's how he looked in my head.
Just wanted to say that. :)
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: 123Chikadee on March 29, 2020, 05:41:47 PM
It's pretty close to how he looked in my head too.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Bad Alias on March 29, 2020, 06:44:22 PM
I think the best casting for Harry would be 1979 Tom Selleck. Every time I catch an episode of Magnum, P.I. I can't help but notice how similar the series is to how a Dresden Files series should be done and how similar the characters of Magnum and Harry are. The show was largely done from Magnum's pov and narrated by him almost in the style of a memoir. He constantly references "when I write my best selling memoir of being a private detective" and then goes into what happened or what he's thinking, often breaking the fourth wall. He's got a haunted past that keeps coming up. He's constantly broke. He lives underground. There's a lot of snark. And Selleck had the range and he's tall enough.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Dina on March 29, 2020, 07:54:15 PM
Oooh, I like this. If only Harry would use his diamonds to rent a Ferrari... (let's be honest, he won't buy one)  :)
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Regenbogen on March 29, 2020, 08:04:05 PM
Oooh, I like this. If only Harry would use his diamonds to rent a Ferrari... (let's be honest, he won't buy one)  :)
No, he would buy some cheap nostalgic old car.
The diamonds he would use to build a new lab somewhere in Murphy's basement or a hut in her garden behind the house. He wouldn't buy a house. Just move in with Murphy.
The rest he would safe for Maggie.
OK, maybe buy some old revolver. But no hat. LOL
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: KurtinStGeorge on April 01, 2020, 03:42:52 AM
Harry could buy half a dozen classic VW beetles; pre-1970 models, so he could always have a working car on hand, even if Mike was repairing one or two others that had been knocked out, and keep two or three at Mike's as part cars.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Regenbogen on April 01, 2020, 10:30:16 AM
Harry could buy half a dozen classic VW beetles; pre-1970 models, so he could always have a working car on hand, even if Mike was repairing one or two others that had been knocked out, and keep two or three at Mike's as part cars.
LOL
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Gman on April 01, 2020, 08:55:26 PM
Harry could buy half a dozen classic VW beetles; pre-1970 models, so he could always have a working car on hand, even if Mike was repairing one or two others that had been knocked out, and keep two or three at Mike's as part cars.


The problem is the VW Beetle is very small and under powered. Harry and Mouse are big. I would say an old Checker Marathon. Large, rugged, reliable and a very simple car. This would be a good solution but Harry seems to like to do things the hard way. A car that is too small and unheated showers for example.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Regenbogen on April 01, 2020, 10:30:25 PM
OMG
Have you watched the April Fool's trailer?  LOL
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: KurtinStGeorge on April 02, 2020, 12:13:17 AM
Here's a link for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LicFGbHAFk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LicFGbHAFk)
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Dina on April 02, 2020, 06:39:48 AM
I loved it  :D
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: g33k on April 02, 2020, 07:43:52 AM
The problem is the VW Beetle is very small and under powered. Harry and Mouse are big. I would say an old Checker Marathon. Large, rugged, reliable and a very simple car..
The VW is a much simpler car.  Air-cooled motor is a HUGE simplification, for example.  Motor over rear axle = simpler transmission.  etc etc etc.

Simple "reliability" isn't all of it.

We can make reliable stuff that's still complex... and it's that complexity that Harry hex'es!

(Also, I have a WAG that the Murphyonic Field is much stronger in the general direction the wizard is looking... so the motor &c behind Harry could make a big difference, too.)
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Mira on April 02, 2020, 11:12:38 AM
I loved it  :D

Yeah, but I was looking for a lamp shade.. ::)  Especially when Eb was asking Harry if he was dumb enough to pull off what ever it was, it would have been great if he had a lamp shade on his head..
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Avernite on April 02, 2020, 02:56:53 PM
Yeah, but I was looking for a lamp shade.. ::)  Especially when Eb was asking Harry if he was dumb enough to pull off what ever it was, it would have been great if he had a lamp shade on his head..
Am I the only one who thinks "Eb" looks like Jake the janitor?
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Mira on April 02, 2020, 04:31:04 PM
Am I the only one who thinks "Eb" looks like Jake the janitor?


  Wasn't Jake, an Afro-American?   Eb just looked like an old farmer to me.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Dina on April 02, 2020, 06:40:15 PM
Yes, I believe Jake was African-American. Also, I am wondering something. Did Eb always wear a necklace like Harry? (I don't remember)
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: didymos on April 02, 2020, 07:23:12 PM
Did Eb always wear a necklace like Harry? (I don't remember)

No, he doesn't.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Regenbogen on April 02, 2020, 07:31:55 PM
Hey, maybe the necklace has some meaning and we will read in the book, why he wears it. I noticed it too. My first thought on Ebenezar was "too much hair" ;) but you know who it is.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Dina on April 02, 2020, 08:03:48 PM
Yes, I think that is possible, because Pris or somebody obviously added it to this trailer. Perhaps he took it from Thomas when he is hurt.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Mira on April 02, 2020, 08:08:54 PM
Yes, I think that is possible, because Pris or somebody obviously added it to this trailer. Perhaps he took it from Thomas when he is hurt.


Or it is a detail that Jim has never mentioned in the books.  We know that the one Harry wears belonged to his mother, and she must have given on to Thomas before she left him.  However why did she wear one?  It makes sense that her father, Eb also wears one or wore one.  I realize this is pure speculation on my part, but since his relationship to both Margaret and Harry was more or less secret, Eb may have kept his hidden all these years, but now sees no reason to.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Regenbogen on April 02, 2020, 08:19:16 PM
I found it pretty obvious hanging there around his neck. As if to rub our noses into it.
Maybe Dina is right, and he took it from Thomas. Could be he knows who he is to him by that time.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Dina on April 02, 2020, 08:26:16 PM
Mira's theory is good too. Perhaps he always had it and just hide it until now that he sees not reason to do it.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Regenbogen on April 02, 2020, 11:40:41 PM
Mira's theory is good too. Perhaps he always had it and just hide it until now that he sees not reason to do it.

Might be too. But what is his reason to no longer hide it?

Oh, I so much want it to be July. Maybe we would know then.  ;D
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Mira on April 03, 2020, 03:34:21 AM
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Might be too. But what is his reason to no longer hide it?

Maybe because Harry is Winter Knight now?  Possibly because of his own status as a member of the Senior Council?  Or wearing that necklace is more common that we are led to believe, as Harry said from the beginning it is a symbol of magic.. Then again like the hat on all the book covers that Harry never wears, it is just anomaly, someone thought it looked cool and decided to add it in the trailer.

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Oh, I so much want it to be July. Maybe we would know then.

With all this stay at home social separation because of the COVID-19 virus, wish the book was out now.   I think I heard on the news that one author published his book early because of that.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Dina on April 03, 2020, 07:03:29 AM
Maybe because Harry is Winter Knight now?  Possibly because of his own status as a member of the Senior Council?  Or wearing that necklace is more common that we are led to believe, as Harry said from the beginning it is a symbol of magic.. Then again like the hat on all the book covers that Harry never wears, it is just anomaly, someone thought it looked cool and decided to add it in the trailer.
I don't think so. This people loves Dresden. I don't think they were adding things just for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Regenbogen on April 03, 2020, 10:59:28 AM
I don't think so. This people loves Dresden. I don't think they were adding things just for the sake of it.
This was my thought, too. Very suspicious. 8)

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from Mira: With all this stay at home social separation because of the COVID-19 virus, wish the book was out now.   I think I heard on the news that one author published his book early because of that. 
Yes, it would be nice to have that now, of course. To make us think about something else. Flee from reality for some hours. That would be nice. But alas, not very likely.

Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Mira on April 03, 2020, 01:13:10 PM
I don't think so. This people loves Dresden. I don't think they were adding things just for the sake of it.

I know, but as you know we've debated about why on all the book covers Harry is wearing a hat, but in the books he is almost never described as wearing a hat.  There is such a thing as dramatic license, so it is a possibility, that is why I listed it.  However having said that I agree the necklace has been too important through out the series for them to do that.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: g33k on April 04, 2020, 05:50:58 AM
Hey, maybe the necklace has some meaning and we will read in the book, why he wears it.  I noticed it too ...

IIRC, there's WoJ that Harry's magical tradition (shared by Ebenezer) treats the pentacle as a specific symbol, and most or all practitioners trained within it might reasonably use/wear/wield a pentacle, at least sometimes.
 
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Mira on April 04, 2020, 06:57:48 PM
IIRC, there's WoJ that Harry's magical tradition (shared by Ebenezer) treats the pentacle as a specific symbol, and most or all practitioners trained within it might reasonably use/wear/wield a pentacle, at least sometimes.

  Which makes the most sense and it is merely an oversight that Eb has never been described wearing one around his neck.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Slingerland on April 07, 2020, 09:08:03 PM
Eb just looked like an old farmer to me.
Am I crazy, or does Eb look like Myron Mixon from "BBQ Pitmasters"?
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: g33k on April 07, 2020, 10:03:27 PM
Am I crazy, or ...

Do I have to choose either/or?   ;D
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: 123Chikadee on April 08, 2020, 11:36:10 PM
I always pictured Eb looking like Bobby, aka Jim Beaver, from Supernatural. :)
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Dina on April 09, 2020, 09:35:27 PM
I like that  :)
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: 123Chikadee on April 09, 2020, 10:27:48 PM
I just hear it so clearly, I mean Eb and Bobby just bonding over their dumb boys. :)
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Post by: Arjan on April 16, 2020, 06:08:44 PM

  Wasn't Jake, an Afro-American?   Eb just looked like an old farmer to me.
He has a farm in the ozarks. If I remember correctly so looking the part is smart.
Title: Re: Peace Talks trailer next Tuesday - Priscilla wants your reaction
Post by: Mira on April 16, 2020, 09:29:30 PM
He has a farm in the ozarks. If I remember correctly so looking the part is smart.

   That is what I meant,  what's more even though he might be one of the strongest wizards on the
planet, I think in his heart, he is just an old hard working honest farmer.