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Title: Re-read plans
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 28, 2017, 09:05:45 PM
What books are readers planning to reread when PT release date is announced in order to re-remember plot points? I usually do all the books and stories; though, some I give more attention to than others.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Mira on November 28, 2017, 09:34:42 PM


I am rereading the series, but not all at once...  My last reread was Grave Peril which was fascinating considering what we know now...   
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 28, 2017, 09:42:40 PM
How so? Catch a new clue?
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Mira on November 29, 2017, 12:48:53 PM
How so? Catch a new clue?

Yes, or things rather some things seem to fall into place..  That was last year and I started and wrote three very long topics about it.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 30, 2017, 11:19:34 AM
What was the biggest puzzle piece that clicked into place, please.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Mira on November 30, 2017, 06:00:56 PM
What was the biggest puzzle piece that clicked into place, please.

One was that  Leah may have already been infected before the party, just some of her actions speak to that.  I also think she was fighting for her sanity just as she was in Proven Guilty when Harry saw her under treatment in ice.  Another is what a dupe Bianca was, and that Mavra and others played her like a harp.  Last but not least how Susan willingly blinded herself to what was really going on.  She covered the supernatural but I doubt that she fully accepted the reality of that world and thus chose to ignore Harry's warnings of the dangers and made that fateful step of stealing the invite to the party.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Kindler on November 30, 2017, 07:28:09 PM
One was that  Leah may have already infected before the party, just some of her actions speak to that.

That's really interesting. Any particular actions? Her particular malice toward Dresden, that's later pretty much gone entirely after Small Favor, does seem pretty out of place. It's handwaved when she says she was trying to protect him, or that she was showing him tough love, or that she's a changeable Fae and can do what she wants (pretty much variably at later points in the series), but it still sticks out pretty far to me.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Quantus on November 30, 2017, 08:53:03 PM
I personally always found it somewhat off that she was (I fully believe) 100% complicit with Bianca's entire scheme, from Sword to Gravestone, which I think should have conflicted with her Godmotherly duties. 
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: jonas on November 30, 2017, 09:01:37 PM
What books are readers planning to reread when PT release date is announced in order to re-remember plot points? I usually do all the books and stories; though, some I give more attention to than others.
Probably after case files comes out i'll do all the short stories found within, then start on a DF reread. It's actually been awhile now
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I personally always found it somewhat off that she was (I fully believe) 100% complicit with Bianca's entire scheme, from Sword to Gravestone, which I think should have conflicted with her Godmotherly duties.
There's always been something screwy to Lea imo, but yea, I keep trying to reconcile that with her already having gone slightly offkilter working with Margret or something. But then again this could be just Harry and his stupid perspective not seeing just how Bloodthirst(heh) Lea actually is... plus now that I think about it, as someone who takes blood from those she deals with, I find it likely she was tainted vs Mab's decree about no blood dropped in her house.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Talby16 on November 30, 2017, 09:29:44 PM
One was that  Leah may have already infected before the party, just some of her actions speak to that.  I also think she was fighting for her sanity just as she was in Proven Guilty when Harry saw her under treatment in ice.  Another is what a dupe Bianca was, and the Mavra and others played her like a harp.  Last but not least how Susan willingly blinded herself to what was really going on.  She covered the supernatural but I doubt that she fully accepted the reality of that world and thus chose to ignore Harry's warnings of the dangers and made that fateful step of stealing the invite to the party.

The Susan thing always bothered me. She has been working with Harry for a while now, has seen the supernatural up close and personal (Toad Demon and werewolves) and still chooses to ignore Harry's warnings about the vampires. That tainted her character for me. Her overall series arc was still emotional for me, but only from Harrys point of view not for her sake (if that makes sense).

As far as rereads go, once PT is announced I will start at the beginning and read to the end incorporating the short stories in the series so I get a timeline accurate lead up to PT.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 30, 2017, 11:01:45 PM
One was that  Leah may have already infected before the party, just some of her actions speak to that.  I also think she was fighting for her sanity just as she was in Proven Guilty when Harry saw her under treatment in ice.  Another is what a dupe Bianca was, and the Mavra and others played her like a harp.  Last but not least how Susan willingly blinded herself to what was really going on.  She covered the supernatural but I doubt that she fully accepted the reality of that world and thus chose to ignore Harry's warnings of the dangers and made that fateful step of stealing the invite to the party.
That is interesting. Maybe she got to inspect and examine the Athame some time prior to her receiving it as a public gift. That could explain her re-invested interest in Harry.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Dina on November 30, 2017, 11:07:38 PM
The Susan thing always bothered me. She has been working with Harry for a while now, has seen the supernatural up close and personal (Toad Demon and werewolves) and still chooses to ignore Harry's warnings about the vampires. That tainted her character for me. Her overall series arc was still emotional for me, but only from Harrys point of view not for her sake (if that makes sense).

I agree. And I had more or less "reconciled" with her by the time Changes was released. And then I never could forget her for keeping Maggie a secret from Harry.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Mira on December 01, 2017, 02:32:04 AM
That's really interesting. Any particular actions? Her particular malice toward Dresden, that's later pretty much gone entirely after Small Favor, does seem pretty out of place. It's handwaved when she says she was trying to protect him, or that she was showing him tough love, or that she's a changeable Fae and can do what she wants (pretty much variably at later points in the series), but it still sticks out pretty far to me.

Which makes me think that she was trying all along to resist the infection..  On one hand she was trying to undermine Mab, that is why she wanted the Knife to begin with, power..  At the same time she did her best to save Harry, perhaps her promise to Margaret in this case was stronger than the infection... But remember in Proven Guilty one minute she was warning Harry that she must not be let go, then the next wanting him to turn her lose. 
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Rasins on December 04, 2017, 08:13:21 PM
I usually have the series on a loop, but recently took a break and read the WoT series.

I restarted it this weekend and am on Fool Moon now.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 04, 2017, 10:02:34 PM
I usually can do a book a week. So, I plan to start about 4 months prior to release date.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Cozarkian on December 04, 2017, 11:17:57 PM
Probably just skin game this time.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 05, 2017, 12:49:51 AM
I am thinking BK 6, Bk9, and BK11 will be very relevant to PT. I see Lara as being an important part of this book and those were her key  books.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: jonas on December 05, 2017, 12:55:37 AM
I am thinking BK 6, Bk9, and BK11 will be very relevant to PT. I see Lara as being an important part of this book and those were her key  books.
Yea pretty sure she's going to try and strangle us with peace, and eat out our life with sex...
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 05, 2017, 08:20:29 AM
Yea pretty sure she's going to try and strangle us with peace, and eat out our life with sex...
That is a strange bit of phrasing. It has eating and sex, two of my favorite things. But, I don't know if I want it or not.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Talby16 on December 05, 2017, 04:32:51 PM
That is a strange bit of phrasing. It has eating and sex, two of my favorite things. But, I don't know if I want it or not.
Oh the agony of choice...
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 05, 2017, 05:23:50 PM
Maybe Lara will whammy me and make the choice for me.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Rasins on December 06, 2017, 08:53:42 PM
Yea pretty sure she's going to try and strangle us with peace, and eat out our life with sex...

One can only hope, one can only hope.  That would be .... hang on ... now I'm distracted.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 07, 2017, 12:17:25 AM
Some image made you lose your train of thought....hmmm?
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on December 07, 2017, 06:57:09 PM
Most of the books take me one night to finish, so I will probably put a couple of weeks into rereading the whole series whenever we get a release date for PT, depending on what else I am in the middle of by then.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 07, 2017, 11:00:57 PM
Oh, I miss the days when I could focus on nothing but reading or bindge watching.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on December 08, 2017, 03:59:49 AM
Oh, I miss the days when I could focus on nothing but reading or bindge watching.

Storm Front is iirc less than a three-hour read for me; given days off I could probably read more than one a day (except for DB and Changes), though that might not give me enough time focusing at a different distance to avoid headaches.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Dina on December 08, 2017, 04:03:19 AM
I read much slower in English than in Spanish, but still I can read Storm Front quite fast, as I am reminded of it as I am reading. Books until Changes are more or less easy for me to read. I have not reread in full Changes, GS and CD but I have reread Skin Game and I will probably read it once more before Peace Talks is released.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 08, 2017, 08:26:36 AM
I like quiet when I read; but, I have a motor-mouth for a son. Where he got this behavior; I don't know. Neither my wife nor myself are long talkers.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Rasins on December 09, 2017, 04:14:50 AM
I like quiet when I read; but, I have a motor-mouth for a son. Where he got this behavior; I don't know. Neither my wife nor myself are long talkers.

That actually made me guffaw.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 09, 2017, 08:29:41 PM
I, also, find humor in other"s misery. LOL
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: Rasins on December 11, 2017, 03:22:46 PM
So, I just finished Fool Moon, and I'm more convinced now than ever that it was Cowl who gave the FBI the wolf belts.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on December 11, 2017, 11:23:16 PM
So, I just finished Fool Moon, and I'm more convinced now than ever that it was Cowl who gave the FBI the wolf belts.

Why?

We never see him work with anything like them, whereas there is that short story where Harry and Murphy face a Red Court researcher doing working on something distinctly similar.
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: jonas on December 11, 2017, 11:32:27 PM
Why?

We never see him work with anything like them, whereas there is that short story where Harry and Murphy face a Red Court researcher doing working on something distinctly similar.
I've only ever read that one once, but... I have no idea who your talking about? I thought they failed to finger a perp of the 'seat belts of love'?
Title: Re: Re-read plans
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 12, 2017, 12:15:59 AM
Couples were being used as lab rats by RCV as a means to determine WCV vulnerabilities. Harry and Murphy took out someone in charge but it wasn't THE person in charge. Seat belts on a tunnel of Love ride were the vector for love infection.