We kinda have to, though. We're already on a collision course for an answer to this question, just with the Denarians. Why was Nicodemus so surprised by the attack on Arctis Tor? Was he surprised because it meant his other Denarians were "infected" (i.e., Denarians can be evil without being infected, i.e., not all fallen angels are infected, i.e., Lucifer != Nemesis), or just because it meant Lucifer was running a plot he didn't know about? Lucifer would certainly have the metaphysical oomph to mount an attack on Arctis Tor!

I'm sure we will see Lucifer. But he is allowed to cheat and directly act. TWG is not.

knnn did a great job of pointing out alternative explenations for my suspicions.  I'm happy with her on the list again

As off topic as it may be, do you have any other important new WoJ that I have missed in my absence?

We don't, but the fact he works with HWWB isn't a point that he would be infected, and the fact of the matter is he would be free of the curse if it was Nemesis protecting him instead of HWWB, as Nemesis is part of him and HWWB is just a servant of sorts.

I'm just saying assuming he is infected maybe a wrong step.  Though if he is, Lara is as well as he is still alive.

I don't think I'm understanding what your saying at the end there. But why would Nemesis be able to have blocked Maggie's death curse? It targeted his Hunger, not him.

She has massive amounts of magic power, not will power.  She has the will power of a young child.When did she have contact with an Outsider?

She brought Mordite to the dual with Ortega.
And I thought it was said that the Archive has the life and memories of all the past Archives. Wouldn't that give her immense amounts of willpower?

I know I am missing like a third of them as this discussion is too much fun and I barely have time to keep up with you.

I had forgotten how much fun I had doing this. I'm glad I decided to come back 

Actually we only have Harry's perspective that they do.  There is some ancillary evidence that they don't.  Notably the fact that Harry still breathes despite him being 'outsider bane' and HWWB having had a free shot at a young Harry.

At that point in time, Justin was trying to get Harry to become a killer. HWWB was training Harry to become a scary magical power, and he succeeded. HWWB could have thought that he had Harry on his side at that point, or he may still think he can get Harry.

Using the previous analysis done of the "Black Council" in the past as a stepping stone, it seems as though most of the beings that the Nemesis had infected and used had the common atribute of ambition.  These people were not puppets though, but were being twisted towards Nemesis' goals.

This kinda brings up the question to me.  Could Maeve not have known who was infected outside her sphere of influence (I.E. since she was not a sock puppet and thus wasn't omnicient on the Nemesis' plans) and thus was excited about a vector to Lara while being ignorant of her status?  Thomas sure did make a big deal about Lara's actions changing lately.  In an Ambitious nature.  Which equates to two huge red flags to me.

There could also be several... factions... of Nemesis or similar beings

Yeah, but I think we have to assume that at least one of the Denarians is infected. And if we have to assume that, then we must consider the fact that Ivy might be infected as well.

I am fairly certain that Thorned Namshiel was infected.

It wouldn't surprise me too much if Ivy was infected.

Nobody responded to my thoughts on Nic being clean

If you added him to your list, I'd put:

Nicodemus (at least at the point of SmF)

Sorry about that, too many posts to reply to at once.

I agree that Nic was free of Nemesis then.

Mab could sense it in her Daughter and both of them are much much much younger than God and His Angels.  God would be able to sense it in His sons and daughters, and Uriel/other Archangels would be able to sense it in his/her siblings.  Hell Harry noticed it in Sith and he knew him for all of a month.  There is no way that God or the Archangels could be corrupted because as I said if they were the war would be over, and because they cannot be infected neither can the lower ranking angels. 

As for vanillas I am absolutely certain that they could.  If not Rashid or Mother Summer would have told him that he could trust them. I also think that Murphy's behavior was very suspect in Cold Days.

Harry noticed it in Sith because he was directly breaking his word and his bonds, and the Sidhe just don't do that.

Even if TWG and Archangles could detect it, they can't act to do anything about it. Other then placing a very smart wizard close enough to find out and help cure the person 

No they have textual evidence from a known infected agent implying (but not out right saying) that they are not infected.
If Nemesis completely replaces your will with its; Maeve hints that Justine or Lara are not infected when one or the other is, because there is a chance that Harry and Co are successful and it doesn't want to lose a more a highly placed foe.

If Nemesis doesn't replace your will with its; Maeve wants to interogate Justine for the exact reason she lays out.He really isn't.  If Rashid is infected, the war is over.  Its why him, DR, and Mab are the only ones I will say with 99.99% certainty are not infected.  The end result of their infection is loss of reality, since reality exists they can't be infected.

Justine and Lara still have some form of proof they are infected, even if it isn't the most trust worthy source.

I will add Rashid to the list

I think its hard to accept Harry is infected due to the fact that he stalls or outright stops the plans of the infected too often.  While I am not sold on the White King being infected, he stopped Aurora and we know she was infected.  We have strong evidence that the first Fivish books were all infected enemies, and Harry killed them all.

When did the White King stop Aurora? Also, he works with the Outsiders directly and has them blocking him from magic