This is not dispositive, but it should be noted that in The Once and Future King version of the Arthurian mythos, Mab's title of "Queen of Air and Darkness" belongs to Morgause, Arthur's half-sister and mother of Mordred. 

Harry uses soulfire to augment his conjuration in the FBI building to make the "stunt doubles" for Murphy and co. more realistic and to do it quicker than he could with standard methods.

It is not completely illogical that a grapple could block a use of incite emotion.  Imagine for example that a vampire from House Malovra is using Incite Emotion to make you feel fear.  If you have them in a half nelson, that is going to:

• make it harder for them to focus on incting the fear in you because they are being grapppled and
• make said vamp less scary because it is, after all, trapped in a half nelson

This game must have an ultra-permissive GM.  If the argument above is accepted, I do not see how Elena can be matched or beaten while veiled.  How is any PC supposed to compete with a godlike uber-PC that can become unbeatable just by casting a single spell?  What counter to this seemingly broken set of powers am I missing?

Hobbitguy has a good point.  The destructive consequences of Elena's antics would be more than enough to justify all of the major powers calling down the thunder on her so that she does not keep bringing more outsider influence into the world.

This character concept is interesting but I do have a few questions and concerns.  First, how is this character going to fit in your gaming group?  This character would be viewed by most groups in the Dresdenverse as being on the Sith end of the scale.  This would make it impossible to work with most of the major supernatural powers and their members and allies.  If anyone in your group is a Wizard, a member of the Venatori Umbrorum, a Champion of God, a True Believer, or a Sidhe Knight, there is no way they will be able to work with this character because they will have extreme animosity towards her behavior (not to mention the fact that the Council would view her as kill on sight).

I am also curious, why does she not have Thaumaturgy or the Sight?  It would seem to me that broadening Elena's abilities would make her better able to function in what is not going to be a hostile world for her.  It would also seem to be crucial in order to justify the wizard level evocation specializations that Elena has (my math may be off, but it looks like she has 6 levels of specialization when non-wizards are capped at 3- the base one that comes with evocation and the one level of refinement permitted for non-wizard evocators).

The sight overcomes Illusions. Elena's veil is not an illusion; she literally exits reality so she won't be perceived. (She is using 7th-Law violating magic to do it. Not spirit illusions)

This is not going to work as a veil because the magic that lets her see what is going on in our reality would be detectable via the sight and thus she could be targetted that way.

Also, if you teleport sb over a volcano, they will die through no action of any other creature. If you teleport someone into a dragon's lair, they willdie through the dragon's actions - or even their own. So the final act that kills them? Not your doing.

There is no way the White Council would ever buy this.  Allowing this kind of action would make it possible for a practicioner to kill helpless mortals with magic in such a manner as the mortal authorities could not cope with (teleportation to another realm as murder weapon does not fly in court).  The wardens, not to mention the Senior Council, would go berserk and begin a witch-hunt.  Considering the ease with which the distortions to reality created by her powers could be tracked (cf the the tracking of necromantic energy in Dead Beat), this would the survivability of this character problematic. 

Actually the way i read it is the second way (as an alternate form of consequence) with the caveat that one must remember that hunger stress does not clear after a scene is over.  The problem with the harsher version is that it is completely different from how stress works in the entire rest of the system and leads to potentially absurd results where even an even role makes the character helpless for the rest of the evening (by having to opt out of 2-3 scenes after every fight). The alternate consequence model, by contrast, is less disruptive to the game while also yielding results more consistent with the source material (Vampires are not completely unable to do anything except thinking about feeding in the books unless have either really pushed themselves or have gone protracted periods without feeding).  It therefore is the best model for gameplay.

DFJunkie,

Your system works too.  The difficulty is that there are a number of GMs who have apparently crafted their own custom house rules that make it virtually impossible to use magic without the taken out result being mandated by GM fiat as automatically death.  This is a severe deviation from the rulebook and makes seriously complicated play balance.  I am currently redesigning the campaign I am GMing to incorporate a bunch of refugees from such games- none of whom were playing spell-slingers but who are so tired of the other GMs in my city behaving like this that they would rather have a less experienced GM (granted one whose knowledge of all things Dresden is better than the other potential GMs) than deal with this issue.


That being said, while I would probably go with your system for the most part, if not killing the opponent with magic will create problems for the character and they have an appropriate non-killing aspect, then I would still award the FATE point

Deadman is right.  If a character's high concept as a wizard of the White Council it means that there character concept requires them to be faithful to the laws of magic in a way that a sorcerer or an "independent" wizard a la Elaine is not.  Especially if we are going to implement one of the anti-evocation house rules that we have been floating around here, following such a high concept with the negative baggage it employs needs (the extra oversight from the wardens that wizards get for example) needs to be balanced with compels to make it work.