So just opening a fun discussion on favourite character other than Dresden and why plus ideal casting.

My vote as a character. It's a tough one for me.

In terms of character development I'd have to go either Butters or Molly.

I also like how Murphy is a tough chick that still behaves like a woman not just a macho asshole who happens to be female.

I find Michael to be an inspiring character and so well written you can almost feel his goodness seep through the pages, makes me almost want to believe in God.

Ebenezar is just like his description of a soul gaze an old oak that has seen too much in the world. His character reminds me of that of old war veterans from Vietnam trying to live their life, but still having a grizzled hardness to their soul.

Rashid is a lot of things intriguing, mysterious, wise, humouress, good natured. I like that he's a positive Muslim character, but more than that I just like the guy. He is well suited to his role as a guardian just like Ebenezar is well suited to being a warrior. I wish we saw more of him on screen though I guess that'd defeat the purpose of his character

Marcone is chilling, he's a trope well used and well done. Like Ebenezar he was a soldier whose seen and done too much and been hardened by it, only he decided to use his coldness and darkness to serve himself.

I think I'm going to wait and see some discussion before deciding who to vote for.
 I know Jim has joked about Tom Hiddleston and Michael Fassbender as Thomas and Harry, while I don't think it's very realistic eh who cares this is about fun so that said I've always wanted to see those two thrown together with James McAvoy and Benedict Cumberbatch the four of them on screen together would be amazing. Some day I'll become a Hollywood Writer and get them together in an SAS Squad movie taking down a Jungle Warlord.

What do you reckon one could play Michael the other Nicodemus.

In terms of realistic casting I tend to look at tv actors for a potential Dresden Files tv series as it may actually be possible.I've really only got one solid hope.

Laura Vandervoort as Murphy. She's a Canadian actress sci fi and supernatural props, plus here's the kicker she's a second dan black belt as can totally kick ass.

Other TV Castings would have to include the Cast of Supernatural. I know Jim's not a fan of the longevity of the show but I think he was fan in the beginning. Though the actors might not want to work on such a similar show with similar characters after their finished with Supernatural

Jarad Padelecki as Thomas.

Jensen Ackles as Dresden.

Misha Collins as Nicodemus or Michael (either or I think he has deceptive range)

Then theres

Famke Jenssen as Mab or Lea (She has the sultry evil seductress thing goin on and the accent fits)

Sasha Grey as Lara (I saw her in Entourage and she can act... I swear thats the only time I've seen her)

Never played the firefly game, does it have any sort of naval combat mechanics by chance?

It does but it's not the focus, but ship stats are all their in terms of agility and so on and so forth. The focus of the Firefly game is more space western scenarios

You're right nothing says he crashed I made the assumption based off of how everyone fears the surface, but I can just as well imagine Commodore Pine launching an expedition across it. Oh and Kissam is an actual city so I withdraw my statement about it.

Of course, I imagine the Airships would be of similar design to the Ships in the Firefly/Serenity RPG's which I love dearly. I always try to be in charge of a pirate or mercenary crew. For which Cinder Spires would be a perfect setting for adapting my characters for.

But in terms of Airship battles well the Predator battles did depend quite a bit on luck for every maneuver they pulled off, so perhaps a roll combined with whatever aspect of the ship the maneuver depends on. Defense (Shroud), Attack (Cannon), Agility (Sail), Speed (Engine). Along those lines. The Ship like in the Firefly RPG or the City in the Dresden Files RPG would be another character and if you had an etherialist on oard one which you could communicate to.

Once enough books have been written do you think there'll be a Cinder Spires RPG?

Yay! So all the Aussie's on the board are in agreement that their is heavy circumstantial evidence that Olympia may or may not be an analogue to Australia.

Quick question am I the first to come up with this theory cause if I am I want it Hallmarked and demand a medal the day I'm proven right.

Edit: Control find of anything with Olympia and Olympian
In the event of a duel with the pedantic Admiral Rook. Captain Grimm threatens to change his flag to Spire Olympia and they'd be glad to have him.

"I'd change my flag to Spire Olympia and they'd be glad to have me" Grimm said "They'd be glad to have me. Let the Rooks attempt their little game with the captain of an Olympian vessel. DO you think your corpse is worth that Hamilton?"

So Apparently Spire Olympia is powerful enough to provide refuge for Captain Grimm if things turn dire enough, protection enough from the Rook family at any rate.
There's also an Olympian Master Sculpture McDagget.

Olympian Mint tea is Renaldo's favourite tea with a perfect amount of honey.

Then Bridgett notices some Olympians in their traditional green and gold garb and the laurel wreath on breasts pendants or rings.

Next we have.
Calliope lies about being double booked one of them being a run for Olympia definitely the more profitable run by what we've estimated the other to Kissam. Anyone know what Kissam is an analogue for? It's in need of Medicine and probably middle Eastern.
(Bugger forgot the race reference I'll come back to it)

Now we get to the bar brawl.

Green aviator leathers and fur trimmed mark someone as a private captain from Olympia. Then Master Ferus makes a joke about Olympian and possessed of a Fury which he acknowledges is only funny if you know enough history. (It's a mythological joke the Three Furies). That more than anything would seem to be the closest confirmation to Cinder Spires atleast coming from an alternate earth if not our earths history.

Gwen correctly identifies the Olympian as a threat and asks Benedict to intervene Benedict says it's Gwen problem to sort out. Ferrus notes his extremely fine coat and that they don't give those to just anyone.

Now comes the "Bloody Albion fussbothers" after Gwen refuses to be cowed. The Olympian first makes a note of asking Benedict if Gwen speaks for him, to which Benedict confirms.

"Pine. Commodore Horatio Pine, of the Half Moon Merchant Company out of Olympia"

Okay so a couple of references one he's a Commodore not a Captain. From what little I know of navy ranks from my days as Pirates of the Carribean superfan a Commodore is somewhere between Captain and Admiral kind of like a Colonel only much less common, a bit more prestigious and most Captains are the equivalent of their own Colonels on a ship, but that's only iirc.

Horatio after Horatio Hornblower and Half Moon to suggest a connection to Werewolves and that this guy is half way to Beserkerdom, then Merchant Company to confirm he's part of a legitimate enterprise and finally confirmation he is indeed from Olympia.

Let's continue shall we.

... I don't give a tenth crown who you are that Suite is reserved for my captains and myself and we've just walked a mile on the surface to get to this bloody Spire and nearly got shot up by your own bloody Fleet when we finally made it through. I'm in no mood for games

Now Gwen tries to use her family name to get out of this and the Commodore isn't having any of it. He's got wounded men, one more obligatory bloody and threatens to leave them all unconscious. Gwen stupidly tries to stand her ground. and Pine asks Benedict is  he sure she speaks for him. Benedict lightly thumps his head on the table. Then the brawl starts.

Well read the brawl yourself it's Chapter 37. But the Olympian shows some knowledge of Silkweaver anatomy and physiology by saying go for it's belly.

Just after the brawl Grimm uses Olympian policy to justify cooking to which Creddy replies in shock horror "We are not Olympians sir"

Ok so the Olympian Air Trials were a couple of years back so 2 or 3 which suggests Leap Year events.

Well we know Nymphs, Satyrs, and Centaurs are a part of the Sidhe so it's not a stretch to imagine Sirens are as well. It's possible Jenny Greenteeth was a siren who was bumped in power through her actions and association with Maeve.

Kind of like Leansidhe with Mab. I think at first she was just a Muse who used her powers to drive men mad and drink their blood. Which impressed Mab so she became her right hand woman.

I thought Queen of Air and Darkness was a Morrigan thing?