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DF Spoilers / Re: Denarians and White Council
« on: August 08, 2017, 12:43:16 PM »
First Ive heard of it, but that's interesting.  There were some old letters between Eb and Simon in one of the recent RPG books that could have included something along those lines, might that be what you recall?

Stoker's book is certainly mentioned in the letters but no direct mention of tunguska.

WOJ is the Thirteen Elders were a threat to Mab.

But yeah iirc the theory was that the Purge was happening and the Thirteen Elders gathered at Tunguska (the region having several folklore about dangerous horror people called 'the grey men') to perform a Dark Hollow and ascend. It's also backed by the fact that thirteens the biggest number a group of people can perform a ritual.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Denarians and White Council
« on: August 08, 2017, 11:48:19 AM »
This ties into the Mavra thread post I just made but I thought there was woj or suggestion or theory that Ebenezar was taking out the thirteen Elders of the Black COurt who were doing a Dark Hollow. Which is why they were a threat to Mab. Theory is supported by local folklore and myth about something called 'the grey men' or 'the death men' or something in the region.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Marvra and Kemmler (Deadbeat)
« on: August 08, 2017, 11:34:18 AM »
I think the theory was that during the Black Court Purge, the thirteen Elders of the Black COurt gathered together to perform the Dark Hollow at Tugunska where Ebenezar wiped them out. They were performing the Dark Hollow to survive and ascend from the Purge.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Marvra and Kemmler (Deadbeat)
« on: August 08, 2017, 11:07:35 AM »
If Drakul really linked to the BCV via Dracula, then I wonder if one can affect the other. I had this theory concerning an altered version of the dark hollow ritual, using the BCV as a fuel source. It could make the ritual work, or some how affect Drakul.

Was that you?

damn I thought that was woj. Great theory though man.

I thought the Black Court Elders Dark Hollow was one of the reasons they were a threat to Mab and why she had a hand in stopping them. White Court having got the idea of using printing press to use mortal authorities in part from Mab and the Grimm fairytales.

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DF Spoilers / Re: A really wild guess on Ferovax gift in GP
« on: August 06, 2017, 02:23:51 PM »
Haha he seems more of a char grill kinda guy to me.

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DF Spoilers / Re: A really wild guess on Ferovax gift in GP
« on: August 06, 2017, 03:30:57 AM »
I think he got a barbeque, because all his cooking turns out burnt.

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DF Spoilers / Re: A warden's sword for Harry...
« on: August 05, 2017, 02:16:07 AM »
Well Mythologically Lasciel as a Fallen Angel presence should never have been allowed in a church let a lone a Cathedral.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Denarians and White Council
« on: August 05, 2017, 02:12:03 AM »
What about the fact that Jim has said it mostly just stops the user from going crazy and the magic was all Ebenezar.
Quote from: jim butcher
When Eb does his "Laying of the Cattle move" at the major battle near the end of Changes, is that a power of the blackstaff?
The Blackstaff is what keeps that kind of thing from driving him insane and turning him into a giggling villain.  Yah you don't go messing with black magic in the Dresden Files, it's very very bad for you.  At the same time, Magic is something that happens because you truly believe that when you set out to do it that you should be able to do that sort of thing.  That says a few things about Eb that really Harry hasn't run into in any other forum other than right there.  Yah Poor guy, He's got a tough job.
@4:30
Quote from: jim butcher
Does the blackstaff have any powers that relate to the dead?
Other than making people dead?  Really, that's kind of the point [Crowd Laughs]  Really but the staff itself what it really does is it keeps Eb sane while he's doing insane things.  Lucky him, he gets to deal with a hideously guilty conscious and nightmares later, but that's better than later being like *Muahahahahahahahaha*  Which is sort of the other option if your going to go around using magic like that. 
All that says that the Blackstaff isn't the power but Eb is that the Blackstaffe just "insulates the user" from going crazy from black magic.

However there is this quote.
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jim butcher
The Blackstaff is not sentient per se it’s just really, really, really powerful and tapped into like some serious elemental powers in the universe.  But basically all it really is is insulation from using those powers.

Which would suggest that the Blackstaff does have power of it's own that allows for it to insulate the user.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Denarians and White Council
« on: August 04, 2017, 01:42:53 PM »
Hmmm, if he's saying that the fan-theory for the blackstaff should explain it, I think that sends me straight back to it being the primary tool of Atropos: She who Ends Life.  Prior to the appearance of Hades she was the closest thing to an incarnation of Death we'd seen, and even then the Fates were always above the Gods in most respects (at least in the sense that Fate itself was a Force even the Gods could not contradict).   

Well he also says in the same interview about a minute later that Mother Winter and Mother Summer aren't two of the Fates which is confusing. But he goes on to say he leaves clues in Skin Game as to who they are which is a reference to Hecate.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Marvra and Kemmler (Deadbeat)
« on: August 04, 2017, 01:24:14 PM »
I've always imagined their demon side to be something like a bloodline curse like the Loup Garou curse, not a natural part of the world order, but I guess I could be wrong the emotions they feed on and their antithesis are part of the natural order in a lot of animals. or at least mammals.

I could have been confusing Black Court and White Court in my mind now that you mention it.

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DF Spoilers / Re: If Hades shows up for Peace Talks in Chicago
« on: August 04, 2017, 01:07:28 PM »
I was slightly dissapointed in Peace Talks we didn't get to see a fight between Cererus and the Chupacabra. I hope if Hades does show up (which I doubt as he's most likely gonna show up in the Wrestling Book which I'm majorly apprehensive about) in Peace Talks we get to see Cerberus in action eating some Fomor.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Marvra and Kemmler (Deadbeat)
« on: August 04, 2017, 12:57:45 PM »
Hmm I've always been of the opinion the Wampire's Hunger is from the Outside. It doesn't fit that they'd be from a Greek offshoot as all the Greek beings or descendants of are part of the Natural Order whether they've turned it Sidhe or a Guardians of Items of Power like Hades.

Plus it fits in with the theme that the Venatores are fighting the Outside and Elder Gods as they have a link to them already, like they're trying to fight their own dual natures.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Character discussion.
« on: July 27, 2017, 04:08:11 AM »
You got Jensen Ackles as Dean btw.... no Dean in the DF lol. 100 views and nobody caught that either lol.
Lol my bad.


Disappointed you left out Uriel, Toot, Shiro, Rashid...

Added the others and I did have Rashid.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Brute Squad
« on: July 27, 2017, 04:02:44 AM »
I wonder how many potential or accused magic users are out there, deemed to be warlocks. Imagine if the council offers sometching like a pardon if they agree to aid the wardens in the conflict.

I think Hannah Ascher could kinda fit the bill at least when she was fighting for The Order of St. Giles.

In terms of a Brute Squad, I like the idea as well although I imagine it to be half a dozen wizards at most if only so every character could get decent screen time. It's hard to spread that across a dozen characters.

I've always wondered why Wizards don't team up together more, I mean it's implied with operations and battles in the war, but still you'd think with hundreds of years to form an organisation they'd have more systematic back up.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Character discussion.
« on: July 26, 2017, 02:35:55 PM »
Hmm i feel like Marcone is a purpose built character what that purpose is is to create a small duchy nation around Chicago to give it and harry protection and allies. I find it interesting that Marcone is so intent on being independent yet allows himself to be drawn into the supernatural

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