I have to admit I am sad to know Jim is working in a Maggie/Mouse POV story. Those who know me are aware that is the least character I would have chosen.On the bright side... Mouse!
Will this story be enjoyable? Probably.
Would I rather have Peace Talks? Absolutely!
Jim's mentioned at signings that he wants to write a short story about a trip to the zoo for the three of them. If I remember right, it's going to be the same story told from the three different perspectives, although Jim followed up that it's turning out to be much more difficult and frustrating than he anticipated.
I didn't know what Serack just told us, but in the main site here, there is a section to tell us the news about JB works. It has been recently update to tell that Jim is working in a story exclusively for Briefcases (just like he wrote Aftermath just for Side Jobs) and it said we will see Maggie and Mouse POV
Coming back to reiterate my original post that Jim's said it's the same story about a trip to the zoo told from all three perspectives.Oooh, if it's made it to the beta's, does that mean we'll be seeing it sooner rather than later? *twitchtwitch*
And I'll add that... It. Is. Awesome.
I might be suffering from the latest short story is the best short story itis. But if we don't count the novellas it's probably the best short story yet. (granted the others have moments just as good) It's good on multiple levels.
I say again. It. Is. Awesome.
On the bright side... Mouse!
It amazes me that we can get offers like this:Fixed it for ya 8)
"Want a new Mercades (Peace Talks), AND a top-of-the-line Smartcar (short story)?"
And people on here are like "yeah! Bonus Smartcar!"
Quote from: ebliss1 on Yesterday at 11:05:16 AM
It amazes me that we can get offers like this:
"Want a new Mercades (Peace Talks), AND a top-of-the-line Smartcar (short story)?"
And people on here are like "yeah! Bonus Smartcar!"
Fixed it for ya 8)
I'M not the one that needs such fixing. It's the one who should be delivering the Mercedes, but is only delivering the Smartcar. I'd be thrilled to get both as you seem to think we will be getting, but if he's asking audiences for ideas about what to put in the book, it's nowhere close to being done. I'd imagine that this time next year, we will still be wondering where Peace Talks is.
Coming back to reiterate my original post that Jim's said it's the same story about a trip to the zoo told from all three perspectives.
And I'll add that... It. Is. Awesome.
I might be suffering from the latest short story is the best short story itis. But if we don't count the novellas it's probably the best short story yet. (granted the others have moments just as good) It's good on multiple levels.
I say again. It. Is. Awesome.
SHUT UP SERACK!!I used to be jealous, until I realized that with every book they spend MONTHS unable to discuss it with anyone. After getting each chapter slowly doled out like a Dickensian soup kitchen. Imagine wallowing in your own theorycraft that long with no release. Imagine having each new novel carefully dosed out like the opioid it truly is, no binge reads allowed...
I am SO jealous of the Betas.
STIFLE IT!!
I'm kidding of course, about the quieting down. Not the jealousy part. *hard glare*
I used to be jealous, until I realized that with every book they spend MONTHS unable to discuss it with anyone. After getting each chapter slowly doled out like a Dickensian soup kitchen. Imagine wallowing in your own theorycraft that long with no release. Imagine having each new novel carefully dosed out like the opioid it truly is, no binge reads allowed...
I think that's where some of Serack's huge theory dissertations come from. It's just a different kind of torturous waiting.
I haven't gotten an update on the disposition of his new house, but if the June 30th deadline wasn't another blown deadline for the contractor, and he's moved in, I would be surprised if the opposite weren't true.
Anyway, I get your complaint, but even though there will be plenty sympathetic to it, a significant portion of the audience here will be more sympathetic to Jim. And respond accordingly. After all, the term "fan" comes from "fanatic."
Further defense of either viewpoint isn't really necessary.
I used to be jealous, until I realized that with every book they spend MONTHS unable to discuss it with anyone. After getting each chapter slowly doled out like a Dickensian soup kitchen. Imagine wallowing in your own theorycraft that long with no release. Imagine having each new novel carefully dosed out like the opioid it truly is, no binge reads allowed...
I think that's where some of Serack's huge theory dissertations come from. It's just a different kind of torturous waiting.
The poor guy, when I speculated before SG that Deirdre wasn't going to make it and Nic would blame Harry (even though I was wrong on the means; something about a B-plot of black court antagonists, given the previous pattern of vampire plots in every third novel) it must have been frustrating only being able to say "hmm ... interesting".
Do we get an information dump at all?
I'm sorry I'm not sure what you mean. In the story? Information about Jim's writing situation?
Also, If I knew what you mean, I would then have to judge if this is something that should be RAFO (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rafo)'d as beta exclusive info.
If it was a story about Harry going for ice cream, that's all that it would be about. The info dump would be like if while going for ice cream, Harry was reminded of when he and Eb had went for ice cream, and you learn more about their relationship. Or maybe while going for ice cream, Thomas drops by and talks to Harry about what's going on in his life... That's my idea of an info dump. Information given that isn't directly connected to the little story unfolding.Hmm, rate that against, say Day Off that was supposed to be about Harry having a date, but revealed things regarding his Warden/Paranet travels, Molly's training, and supernatural STD's? There was a lot of information not related to the planned events, but not as an exposition dump where the bulk of the text is off-topic, a flashback, or a story-within-a-story sort of thing.
If it was a story about Harry going for ice cream, that's all that it would be about. The info dump would be like if while going for ice cream, Harry was reminded of when he and Eb had went for ice cream, and you learn more about their relationship. Or maybe while going for ice cream, Thomas drops by and talks to Harry about what's going on in his life... That's my idea of an info dump. Information given that isn't directly connected to the little story unfolding.
You mean like ... it's a story about a trip to the zoo. They see lions there. DId you know that the female lions are the ones who do all the hunting. and ...
Then you go on about different things about lions.
Is that an info dump?
No, that's just irrelevant background. An infodump is when story-necessary details are all lumped into one big delivery instead of integrated organically into the story where they would naturally occur (as "natural" as an artificially created story can be, that is). One of the old phrases in the genre writing community is "As you know, Bob," which mimics the typical start to such an infodump: one character explaining to another things they already know, purely for the purpose of delivering the information/background to the reader.
This is, of course, far too broad a generalization; good writers very often find ways of dumping a lot of story-necessary information at once without resorting to hamfisted "As you know, Bob" approaches, and nobody honestly thinks of those as infodumps. It's really a question of how deftly or clumsily the massive flow of information is woven into the effect of an organically developing plot/scene.
It's one of the reasons Bob was created, as far as I recall, as related by Jim. A good example in the story is Bob explaining the different types of werewolves in Fool Moon. It's justified within the story (Harry is asking him about it, and Bob talks for a few pages about them), so it avoids the kind of thing like, "As you know, Harry, there are four types of werewolves..."Heheh, ya. His writing instructor warned him not to let Bob's character become purely a vehicle for exposition, something commonly referred to as a "talking head". So Jim went and made him a literal talking head. ;D
Heheh, ya. His writing instructor warned him not to let Bob's character become purely a vehicle for exposition, something commonly referred to as a "talking head". So Jim went and made him a literal talking head. ;D
Not to mention that the writing community has long had a phrase describing the infodumping talking heads: "As you know, Bob..." :Dhaha, didnt know that one, Nice!