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DF Spoilers / Re: Killing King Corb
« on: February 08, 2021, 10:05:53 PM »
it's not a magical protection, it's a prophecy..
I know I was making a bit of a joke with my overly simple argument, but I do think it has some merit based on what The_Sibelis is pointing to here. There's a lot of prophecy and prophecy related tropes out there. One I've seen over and over is when prophecies are "entirely in metaphor, riddles, vagueries, and oblique poetry," as TV Tropes puts it. There's also the trope we've seen Harry adopt, Immune to Fate. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ImmuneToFate

If it comes up, I can see it going a number of ways. Harry objects to the concept of binding prophecies, so he kills Corb anyway. Harry kills Corb in some fashion that meets the requirements of the prophecy in an "unexpected" way. Harry imprisons Corb in Demonreach where he shall remain until the Sun engulfs the Earth, killing Corb as a result.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is Harry downplaying Mabs protection?
« on: February 08, 2021, 09:51:28 PM »
I do not know how actively Mab was hunting him. Bob might have been more afraid than necessary.
I think that's probably correct.

As I've said in other threads, I think Harry has some degree of protection by being the Winter Knight. It's probably less than the average Council member has, and it's definitely less than Harry had when he was both Winter Knight and a member of the Council. In the supernatural community, it's all about deterrence. With or without the Council, Harry has built up a lot of that.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The best DF stories...
« on: February 08, 2021, 09:44:14 PM »
my favorite scene in Changes was the duel in his domain.

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Agree? Disagree?
My favorite thing about Changes is Harry gets to go into the final fight without a bunch of injuries that hold him back. I think it allows for more awesome.

The story arc starting with Grave Peril and ending with Cold Days represents, in my mind, some of his best writing to date.  Dead Beat, Proven Guilty, White Knight, Turn Coat and finally closing out with Changes, are the strongest in books in this run.  It has a strong and scary antagonist as represented by the Red Court, and the fleshing out of the supporting characters is finished. Cold Days answers a lot of the questions raised in this arc and features the death of Maeve and the reveal of Nemesis. Mab's purpose is revealed and Harry finds that his choices in Turn Coat will have a price.
Agree. Comparing those books to these books help illustrate why PT/BG aren't as good as they could be.

As Harry reveals in his talk with Justine on the boat, the whole of Peace Talks and Battle Ground was just a big diversion to get the Walker onto Demonreach.
In the GP-CD story arc, we have vampires as the main villain with the background threat of what turns out to, likely, be Nemesis.1 Here we have the foreground threat of the Fomor and the background threat of Nemesis. The background threat is done in such a way that I'm not worried about it at all. It doesn't add anything to these books. And the Fomor seem to be a parade of arrogant incompetents who are only good at having mooks. They don't feel half as threatening as the Red Court did to me.

That's half my problem with PT/BG. Continuity errors are the other half. If I notice them, they drive me crazy, and there are so many in these books. I have other problems with these two books, but I don't think there big enough to warrant much complaining.

I'm going to have to read them a couple more times before I can firmly say where they fall on the DF scale of quality. (It's kind of like how I told a friend who owns a restaurant that his signature item was he least good item because it was just good, and everything else was fantastic. I don't think we've had a "bad" book yet).

1: The threat could be all sorts of shadowy figures plotting in the background. The Black Council, the Circle, and Nemesis could range from one threat to several distinct threats with all sorts of degrees of interrelatedness somewhere in between.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Corruption, hate, love and other musings
« on: February 08, 2021, 09:23:41 PM »
I also wonder if Harry particularly is susceptible to influence of the Fallen, in a way.
I think you're on to something. On first impression, I agree with everything except the quoted line. I think it's more that he's more of a target for manipulation and influence than most, so he gets (and therefore has to resist or fall for) more than most.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cowl
« on: February 08, 2021, 09:14:16 PM »
Well did anybody cover the fact that Anastasia luccio says she's familiar with kemmlers disciples and can she possibly know the name of Cowl? Or am I having a brain fart that nobody asked her?
If you're referring to the phone call with Harry in DB where she says "I am familiar with Kemmler's disciples," I don't think that let's us know the level of familiarity. We know she ran into Grevane in Dodge City, so she knew him by name. But she may have more generally meant that she's familiar with his disciples like Harry's familiar with White Court Vampires. He knows a lot about some specifically and a lot about how the operate generally. I always took that line more like a "don't your grandmother how to suck eggs" kind of thing.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who broke Little Chicago?
« on: February 08, 2021, 09:03:17 PM »
Already did.
It more felt like moving the goal posts from Mike wouldn't have anything to fix to "everyone" would notice that someone didn't hit him.

I don't think you made the case at all. You stated the premise for the case.

Since the quote comes from Small Favor it's hard to see it's relevance to Proven Guilty. It did occur to me that Jim was trolling his readers and introducing the idea that there was a door into Winter in the Lab and preparing them for a trip down the primrose path.
I've never really understood how the Calvin and Hobbes thing is supposed to be a reference to the Winter Court.

Is another of the [Summer] Queens Nemfected? That question is answered at the end of the book when Harry throws Summer Fire in the Winters Wellspring.  Summer attacks the Reds. This is why she winked at Harry.
I've never seen anyone make this claim. It's interesting.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who broke Little Chicago?
« on: February 05, 2021, 07:36:38 PM »
this expects everyone, including people who regularly work in identifying and fixing damage to be too stupid to notice he ran himself off the road, lack of paint scrapes, major dents from being rammed multiple times, ect. That's implausible, and reaching at best.
Then make that case. Not a specific claim that Mike wouldn't know why Harry bothered to bring the car in.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Killing King Corb
« on: February 05, 2021, 05:42:12 PM »
Harry goes down there and kills him.

From SmF
Molly: Did my face look like that when you did that little-ball-of-fire thing to me?
Harry: I prefer to think of it as a little ball of sunshine.

I rest my case.  8)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who broke Little Chicago?
« on: February 05, 2021, 05:37:21 PM »
I'm talking about the body damage.
The body is constantly in a state of disrepair. There's always something for Mike to fix. Lose control of a car with low clearance and run it off the road in a major urban center and see if you have any body damage that would need to be repaired.

So he takes it to Mike, who asks, fix what?
And this is what you said. My response to it says what Mike would assume Harry is asking to be fixed.

Further, Harry's not worried about body damage that isn't more than cosmetic.

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DF Spoilers / Re: genoshwa
« on: February 05, 2021, 05:30:18 PM »
Grendel was a bigfoot. Grendelkin are descendants of Grendel.

River is a bigfoot. Irwin is a descendant of River.

Is Irwin, anatomically, the same thing as the Grendelkin?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who is the North American warrior in BG?
« on: February 05, 2021, 05:25:35 PM »
She came to mind because she is the only one who remotely fits.
An entire tribe of people associated with Molly fits the description.

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medium brown skin and the arched cheekbones and angular eyes of a native of the far northwest of North America
These together indicate that he's not talking about someone from the continental US. The physical descriptions points to Alaskan native peoples. Maybe some Canadians.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Dresden and Lara
« on: February 03, 2021, 05:34:51 PM »
I thought they fed off life energy via emotions. 

You know Thomas and other White Court have fed off non humans who have more life force, that doesn't harm them.  I wonder if something about the Winter Mantle will provide Lara with the energy when she's feeding so Harry can have all kinds of fun sex with her without being damaged.
It's a little unclear what the difference is between emotional energy, life energy, and energy. Jim's been pretty clear it that the White Court don't eat their victims souls though.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who is the North American warrior in BG?
« on: February 03, 2021, 05:29:33 PM »

Terra West in human form?
Doubt it. Harry should have recognized her, and I seriously doubt he'd describe Tera West as young looking.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who broke Little Chicago?
« on: February 03, 2021, 05:26:54 PM »
1 Harry fixes the beetle regularly.
Harry fixes it to a certain extent. It's constantly in a state of disrepair. Simply losing control and ending up on a curb could be enough to render it inoperable.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Could Harry be the next White King?
« on: February 03, 2021, 01:20:58 AM »
If the potential White Court vamp is in love with the first person they sleep with, it can kill the inner vamp and leave them human. It's what both Thomas and Harry hoped would happen with Inara, back in Blood Rites.

So Lara couldn't have been in love with the first person she slept with; if that were true, she wouldn't be White Court. She might have fallen in love with someone else afterwards, but by then it would be too late to be anything other than a vampire.
Which was kinda my point. I also feel like we should distinguish between love and "true love." Jim's specifically said that the relationship has to be that of equals for it to be true love. There's probably plenty of couples that aren't "equal," especially historically.

Not if the man she loved cheated on her.  I believe it requires mutual love, not just from one.
That's another thing. True love has to be mutual.

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