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The Dresden Files => DF Spoilers => Topic started by: wardenferry419 on December 12, 2017, 09:16:46 PM

Title: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 12, 2017, 09:16:46 PM
We have seen different members of different groups acknowledge Mac in varying degrees.
Mab receives flattery from Mac that makes her smile.
Sharkface calls him "Watcher" with hostility.
Luccio, who tends to be stern, does a mild joking comment about his beer.
Anything else that needs mentioned.
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: raidem on December 12, 2017, 09:38:00 PM
Shiro seemed to turn around with his back to him in Death Masks.  Morgan does a scan of the bar to include Mac I believe.
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 12, 2017, 10:15:01 PM
I thought Morgan avoid looking at Mac or was that Harry?
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: raidem on December 12, 2017, 10:45:51 PM
Unsure. Harry didn't scan though.
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 12, 2017, 10:48:32 PM
I was often curious about the unnamed customers. Like the two old guys playing chess.
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: Ananda on December 13, 2017, 12:44:56 AM
I was often curious about the unnamed customers. Like the two old guys playing chess.
They were Lars and Sven and will feature prominently in future books. They are there to watch Dresden. Remember how there were other people in the botanical park thingie? That was them, too. And people on the street? Them. People in that other place? Also them. Accordingly, they are also time travellers and also are related to Marcone (who is Dresden's and Murphy's (Mab) son, obviously). They are also Eb's great, great and great, great, great grandfathers respectively. One of them is married to Marcone's daughter (Murphy) in the past when she's Mab. One of them is Molly's grandfather. And, both of them are related to Nicodemus (who is Marcone's time travelling son and Dresden's father (he was a kotc but fell and travelled back in time to found the denarian sect)).

I hope that clears it up for you. :D
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 13, 2017, 05:50:06 AM
Nope, sorry. My suspension of disbelief has limitations.
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: Rasins on December 13, 2017, 06:45:19 PM
Don't forget Vadderung's sitting at the bar apparently having a good conversation with Mac.  Or was it Kringle?
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: jonas on December 13, 2017, 06:56:20 PM
I thought Morgan avoid looking at Mac or was that Harry?
Morgan avoided a 3rd eye gaze yes, and Mac was on a first name basis with him, Harry only then learning his name was Donald.
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 13, 2017, 11:42:54 PM
And since Mac is not one to gab; I would say they've known each other for awhile.
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: RobReece on December 14, 2017, 05:10:06 PM
Don't forget Vadderung's sitting at the bar apparently having a good conversation with Mac.  Or was it Kringle?
Vadderung was at the bar, Kringle was at a table by himself.
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 14, 2017, 11:18:23 PM
Kringle at a table by himself instead of at the bar....hmmm?
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: Rasins on December 20, 2017, 06:32:28 PM
Well, Kringle IS an Elf.  Vadderung is a CEO, so he's more politic. 
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 20, 2017, 11:12:48 PM
Or Kringle has an issue with Mac?
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: Kindler on December 21, 2017, 04:08:07 PM
Or Kringle has an issue with Mac?

Or... Vaderrung was regaling an old associate with a story, someone who was not an associate of Kringle.
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: raidem on December 23, 2017, 02:34:02 AM
Yuck.  To here you say the twisted inaccurate take of my theory kinda puts a bad taste in my mouth.  I usually like tt stuff but that is way too untidy.  Though you did hit on pieces of my different theories.

Each below can be distinct from the others.
Harry descends from nicodemus.
Nicodemus reforms, gets second chance via tt and new body as one Malcolm dresden.
Murphy becomes mab in past, present, or future.
Harry and Murphy have a child.
Harry and Murphy have a baby shark child known to us as marcone who has an origin in tt.
Maggie Sr is kumori.
"There you are" as part of uriels hint, "no matter where you go, there you are" can be used as a marker for Harry to later revisit in time travel form particularly around the time of the masquerade in grave peril.
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: jonas on December 23, 2017, 02:38:46 AM
Yuck.  To here you say the twisted inaccurate take of my theory kinda puts a bad taste in my mouth.  I usually like tt stuff but that is way too untidy.  Though you did hit on pieces of my different theories.
Yep, becoming their habitual reply to theories they don't like to sarcastically skewer them. A new take on an old art, trolling ;D
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 23, 2017, 06:41:23 AM
I save my trolling for Twitter; they deserve it. In here, I try to give each of you devils their due with respect.
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: jonas on December 23, 2017, 07:01:23 AM
I save my trolling for Twitter; they deserve it. In here, I try to give each of you devils their due with respect.
Good idea that, devils are notoriously vindictive and have long memories. Best to let them lie, even if it's right to your face lol, I kid, I kid lol.
Title: Re: Recognition of Mac.
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 23, 2017, 07:58:01 AM
Gotcha, no worries.