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DF Spoilers / Dog Men part 2 (Spoilers)
« on: July 14, 2017, 02:16:52 PM »
So who are these Federal agents?   Could we actually be meeting a Library of Congress taskforce?

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Grevane is one of the (non-Cowl) necromancers that Harry faces in Dead Beat.   IIRC , Ramirez shoots him.

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I feel like I'm missing something here, and I didn't know that was even possible unless possibly it's from one of the graphic novels...

It's from the supplement to the DFRPG.   There's a whole section on the Russian Revolution and Simon Pietrovich.   A nice chuck of it is correspondence between Simon and Ebenezer (who is the Blackstaff).   The latter is warning him not to use magic to help the Tsar.



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So it seems to me McCoy laid down the cloak and picked up the staff as part of the same general event.

Well Krakatoa was really big and is around the time Jim said Ebenezer first picked up the Blackstaff.   It's not impossible that the previous Blackstaff died during the event and that Ebenezer's first act upon picking up the Blackstaff (in desperation?) was causing the boom in a last ditch effort to stop whatever it was.

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Wait, were we just assuming he'd done New Madrid all along? Somehow I'd got the impression it was one of the ones he admitted to Harry in BR (along with Krakatoa and Tunguska).

It was:

Quote from: Blood Rites
"Casaverde," Ebenezar said, his voice shaking.   "Tunguska.   New Madrid.   Krakatoa.   A dozen more.   God help me, a dozen more at least."

Either Ebenezar got the Blackstaff "on loan" before actually taking it up, it's time-shenanigans, a different New Madrid incident, or just a Jim slip.

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DF Spoilers / Re: WAG: What Rashid's Eye Does...
« on: June 30, 2017, 01:40:43 PM »
Sorry, I was really focusing on the Questionable part.

Remember that Mab calls Rashid "that desert Fox" back in Summer Knight?   Mab uses the same animal earlier in the book when she tells Harry about the myth of the Fox and the Scorpion (with herself as the Scorpion). 

Coincidence or reminiscence over previous encounters with the Gatekeeper?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Weapons that can kill Immortals?
« on: June 13, 2017, 01:14:42 AM »
What Wyltok posted, that WOJ mentioned the swords, the noose, and the Blackstaff specifically.  It was back around the release of Changes, so none of the SG items would count, though worth noting that the shroud from DM is excluded while the Noose is not.  I personally give the Stone Table a pass on account of it being more of a Place of Power than a traditional Item of Power. 

Yup!  Thanks Wyltok.

Point is, the Blackstaff is *something else* when it comes to power, unlike the Athame.

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DF Spoilers / Re: On Nemesis and Why it can't / doesn't infect Humans
« on: June 13, 2017, 01:13:02 AM »
Also, fwiw, I have a strong suspicion that Mab's "Executioner" mode is directly related to Angels; since she almost perfectly resembles the Angel of Death we saw in GS, it makes me think that once upon a time, an Angel of Death might have met its end on the Stone Table.

That might just be because of human (or Harry) perception. 

I don't think I like the idea of sacrificing an Angel on the Stone Table; it doesn't quite fit.   As Bob says "different wavelengths".   And from a technical point of view, how would you give equal power to both sides?   Remember that the Queen in charge of the Table at the time gets the power.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Weapons that can kill Immortals?
« on: June 12, 2017, 07:32:26 PM »
Hmmm, possible?  Here's the WOJ on the Blackstaff's sources of Power, I think you could read it in that light (there's certainly similar wording there), depending on how you envision Mother Winter's wild college years...

Wasn't there another WoJ about how the Swords are special in some way (re:power) and he's only introduced one other such item so far (this is pre-SG) with the implication that it is the Blackstaff?

I may be misremembering.

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DF Spoilers / Re: On Nemesis and Why it can't / doesn't infect Humans
« on: June 12, 2017, 07:25:23 PM »
I imagine that the Outsiders are the real Adversary that beings like Uriel have to face off against,

Thing is, I don't think we've ever see any angelic forces fighting directly against the Outsiders.  I mean (as far as I remember), you've got Michael at the end of PG, Nicodemus' "blinking" when he hears about Hellfire at AT (and some of the stuff he says in SG) and (if you buy into the theory) Rafael-Demonreach.

Now granted the whole Outsider threat was only explicitly stated in the last few books so its not impossible that we haven't seen the whole picture, but given that a whole angel is given the sole job to protect the possibly dying Forthill, you'd think Harry would have run across a few hints of their existence at the continual war at the Gates.

I guess it I just haven't have gotten "that vibe" so far, though of course it might be Harry's misunderstanding of the situation.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Weapons that can kill Immortals?
« on: June 12, 2017, 12:51:34 PM »
We don't know when Michael killed Siriothrax, but if it wasn't coincidentally Halloween, I assume that using a Sword is sufficient.

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DF Spoilers / Re: On Nemesis and Why it can't / doesn't infect Humans
« on: June 09, 2017, 05:30:38 PM »
Good point.   The sculpture vs picture metaphor Harry uses very much suggests your reading (both for the Walkers and Mab).

I guess I always felt the Mab's defense of the Gates was against similarly-weighted opponents.  At the very least, this vastly increases the amount of "computing power" the Outsiders potentially have, even if they are constrained by amount of power they can project onto our "flat" 3d world.




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DF Spoilers / Re: On Nemesis and Why it can't / doesn't infect Humans
« on: June 09, 2017, 12:17:04 PM »
All it has to do is be a universe where Earth is not the focal point for the Outsider's invasion.  Maybe they are trying to storm through a planet in the Hyades with their own set of inhabitants rather than Humans on Earth.

Sure, but you'd still have to explain why there are no mortals on that Earth summoning Outsiders.

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DF Spoilers / Re: On Nemesis and Why it can't / doesn't infect Humans
« on: June 09, 2017, 12:49:32 AM »
I have no real problem with the idea of Creation bubbling out of Chaos, more that on an aesthetic level I dislike the idea of that bubbling chaos being both a)the literal and direct animating source of all Life while also b)being a conscious malevolent entity of destruction and madness and despair and all the other things that Ive culturally been taught to associate with all lovecraftian deities. 

Azathoth isn't really malevolent.   He's the "mindless god".  It's just the he's so alien that any contact with him leads to madness.   Another example would how certain bacteria can grow and prosper in your body.   When you kill them (by taking antibiotics) it has nothing to do with malevolence. 


When I say "local" I meant local to that individual universe (including it's accociated NN), meaning there might be mirror versions in other universes.  This becomes an important distinction because I do not think that is true for Outsiders.   There is that line from CD about how the outsider seemed not bigger, but rather /deeper/ than things like Mab, a photograph vs a sculpture, and the WOJ that Outsiders are just Outsiders and only look different depending on what universe they are trying to get in.  If each universe is a single "disk" cross-section of giant a World Tree branching out in Time, then the idea is that the Outsiders are all the negative space between and around that branching tree of Creation.  And by extension that, unlike universe-level creatures, there is only one HWWB4 out there, and right now he's looking at Harry's Universe.

I have no problem with the idea that the whole multiverse is merely a single bubble in the Outside. 

Not quite sure what you're saying about HHWB.  The way I see it, either he's a minion -- one who can only manifest in one universe, or he's more along the lines of Uriel -- sees multiple universes at once.  I don't think this has been decided one way or the other.

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DF Spoilers / Re: How Harry would do the Dark Hallow in Changes wag
« on: June 08, 2017, 07:07:54 PM »
Halloween also would play a role in the permanence of a Darkhallow Powerup, I would think.

Good point.

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