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Author Craft / Re: Author In Progress
« on: August 28, 2013, 10:24:39 PM »
And In Primus the most important bit of wisdom I shall depart is also the most difficult and useless to thee.  For it is this: you must give yourself permission to write the stink bomb.  The words wafting off your pages will and must repulse you with every word you write.  Yet without cease or fail you religiously return to pound out more onto your word processor.  You must solemly vow to never go back, never edit, never delete!  These words until you reach the end of your manuscript (that way when you do go back to work on stuff before you're done, you are 'sneaking' around for a few words instead of giving yourself permission to look at how terrible the stuff is) .

I've heard this, in variation, from at least a dozen different writers and teachers, and still I can't seem to force myself to live by it. I have a hard time not getting bored with my own crap writing long enough to turn it into something useful.

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Author Craft / Re: What makes people put down a book (goodreads)
« on: July 27, 2013, 02:40:31 AM »
Someone that is supposed to excel in an area and is instead less than competent will usually drive me from a book, for example a supposedly brilliant detective that continually overlooks obvious clues or an experienced soldier that continually takes unnecessary risks.

I think the worst part about this is that in order to appear in the book, it had to have hit the author's radar. So the author is seeing this important piece of evidence and actively choosing not to 'permit' the character to discover it or understand its importance. If you want your character to be that, for lack of a better word, dumb, then make him or her that dumb.

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Author Craft / Re: Question on Beta-Readers
« on: July 27, 2013, 02:33:24 AM »
They analyze them so they know what ads to offer you. Not the same thing as selling. Nobody sees them.


Well, other than the NSA, of course. ::)

Ah, ok. I hadn't really looked into it, it's good to know that distinction.

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Author Craft / Re: Night School. Will it be pennies well spent?
« on: July 18, 2013, 10:01:53 PM »
Yeah, when I was thinking about this discussion this morning, it occurred to me that a good writing group can accomplish the same exact thing without having to spend quite as much money (if my local community college is any indicator, and it's one of the largest in the US, you could easily spend $500 for one class only, while some local writing groups have dues around $75-90/year). Having some threat of a drop in my GPA helped me take it more seriously than I think I might have been able to on my own. I don't construe that as a lack of commitment or interest, more that I've got a lifetime of sidelining writing to get over. Also, not gonna lie, doing well in that class kind of felt like having an official stamp of approval from a professional, even though I know that logically, creative writing is very subjective and it would probably take a whole lot of doing nothing at all to do poorly in a class like that. Lots of writing groups have published authors in regular attendance, and people who are just as well-educated as someone at a local college.

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Author Craft / Re: Night School. Will it be pennies well spent?
« on: July 18, 2013, 03:23:08 AM »
I really enjoyed the creative writing class I took. I'm working on an English degree, so it's a pretty natural choice, but I'd always wanted to take a class like that and had always been too much of a wuss to do it. I'm not going to say I learned a great deal - if you're interested in writing, a lot of the stuff you learn seems like common sense, although it did help me re-distribute some of the emphasis that I placed on specific aspects of the writing process. For me, it was reassurance that my writing, and therefore I, wasn't a terrible waste of paper, and reassurance that there really is a world in which I can share something important with other people, perfect strangers, and they won't laugh in my face.

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Author Craft / Re: Release schedule
« on: July 18, 2013, 03:14:04 AM »
I think that Deposed King has some good points, as an indie author I imagine that it would be hard to gain traction if there was too much time between releases in a series. On the other hand, established authors often produce more than one book a year, for instance Janet Evanovich and James Patterson both seem to drop books every two to three months. Then again, they're co-writing a lot (btw, anyone have any opinion of those situations? co-writing with a big name? If there's already a thread, tell me.), so those release dates are much easier to hit. But, at the same time, a lot of that work seems kind of insubstantial. There's a used book store that I like to go to nearby, and they've constantly got entire bookcases full of hardcover copies of the last several releases from each of these authors (and more, of course), but very few from authors like Jim Butcher, and I can almost never find any Douglas Adams. I that more indicative of over-saturation, or just the nature of their readers?

I guess, imo, it comes down to what it is you're looking for. If it's a question of whether or not you can afford to support yourself, the more the better if you can keep the quality of your writing up. But if it's a question of the satisfaction of building a career, or just the "love of the game", as it were, I guess it should take however long it takes to write what you and your work want.

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Author Craft / Re: POV's and whatnot
« on: July 18, 2013, 02:59:34 AM »
I would quibble with this.  To my mind your statement would be true if:

1) you are working for a publisher

2) writing is a part time job

3) writing is just something you do for fun and to see if you are any good/can make some money

However the successful indie guys I've been watching.  They all write a book every 3-4 months without fail.  Go any longer than that and as an indie guy you start to lose the interest of your readers but more importantly sales fall off to nothing.  My advice would be that if you want to see if you're any good write whatever.  But at the point you're ready to go serious and writing is your full time job.  Then its got to be 3 books minimum per year on your mainline series and the other one per year can be whatever.

That said you can cheat around this 3-4 books a year writing plan if you've got a backlist of books you've already written and just slowly intersperse them in amongst your new writing.

On the making a living off your writing front you could sacrifice readers continued interest if you're getting a couple sales per day off your backlist.

But that's just my 0.02c

Its all about life goals and choices.



The Deposed King

I have no delusions - I'm definitely a casual/hobby writer. I'm sure that anything I write will be read by, tops, like 3 people at least one of whom is my husband. That being said, I guess then that the frequency of completing works is not especially important. I think I might fiddle around with first person, maybe limited third person switching narrators between completed works as appropriate.

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Author Craft / Re: Question on Beta-Readers
« on: July 10, 2013, 09:50:44 PM »
Doesn't GMail sell your emails? Not like to anyone worth being annoyed about, but just little advertisers. Or is that only in-line text?

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Author Craft / Re: POV's and whatnot
« on: July 10, 2013, 09:46:34 PM »
I'm thinking a little larger-scale than a trilogy, more like a serial. But I don't know if I can produce quickly enough to make it enjoyable. Maybe I should write a few and hoard them...

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Author Craft / Re: POV's and whatnot
« on: July 09, 2013, 10:26:50 PM »
Does anyone have any opinions about switching 1st person POVs between completed works? ie short stories from different characters' perspectives that are all part of a cohesive story arc. Does anyone know of any works that pull this off, either as a series of short stories or novels?

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