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Title: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: PatchR on August 06, 2013, 12:39:16 AM
I figure there has to be one laying around somewhere, but my search skills on this forum are lacking.

One of the things I love to see/do is make up characters from popular culture into a system (What would Batman look like in DFRPG? Superman? Etc).

Troy from Ragnarok has done this as practice at our site, but I was curious if there was one of those threads sitting around somewhere here.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: Dr.FunLove on August 06, 2013, 12:56:21 AM
I've (in the back of my mind) am developing a Miami that would fit into my Dresdenverse. I have loved the idea of throwing in Michael Weston (Burn Notice) in there. A very capable mortal and spy isn't so out there of an idea eh? ;)

If such a thread existed, I think it would be in Resources right? Someone correct me if I'm off base.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: Taran on August 06, 2013, 03:52:59 AM
There is a thread somewhere on this board!  I've seen batman (in various forms), superman, spiderman, the hulk and iron man to name a few.  I couldn't tell you where they're hidden, though.

To find batman, try searching *crafting gadgets* or something to that effect.

Batman:
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19290.msg858415.html#msg858415

Batman(yet another version) and a couple versions of the hulk
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,17625.msg788194.html#msg788194

Iron man
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18560.msg836865.html#msg836865
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: Sanctaphrax on August 06, 2013, 05:48:13 AM
Worm characters. (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,37922.0.html)
Venom. (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,37515.0.html)
Kick-Ass (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,25267.0.html)
All kinds of characters. (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,26217.0.html)
Nightcrawler (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,34313.msg1620175.html#msg1620175)
Marilith & Balrog (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,18191.msg1859867.html#msg1859867)
Sergeant Schlock, some characters from Chew, and Cammie the Chameleon (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,22322.msg1742873.html#msg1742873)
Batman (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,36555.msg1752398.html#msg1752398)
The Crow, Ridley, Samus, Superman, and Ant-Man (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,21533.msg1099424.html#msg1099424)
Alien and Predator (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,21533.msg1477114.html#msg1477114)
Paul Atreides (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,21533.msg1267504.html#msg1267504)
Blink Dog and Displacer Beast (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,21533.msg1283542.html#msg1283542)
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: PatchR on August 06, 2013, 06:14:42 AM
Very cool, thanks fellas.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: PirateJack on August 06, 2013, 06:06:15 PM
Oh LOL. I was just reading through the Alien/Predator sheets and noticed that the Alien is Chest Deep.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: Sanctaphrax on August 06, 2013, 07:52:56 PM
Heh. Didn't do that on purpose, believe it or not.

Also: I noticed a new Sponsored Magic on Troy's stat-practice thread. Do you know if Troy wants it to go onto the list/wiki?
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: narphoenix on August 06, 2013, 09:19:02 PM
I think I have an idea for a statblock for The Bride (from Kill Bill). Where would I put it?
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: Sanctaphrax on August 07, 2013, 02:42:34 AM
I dunno. Here, maybe?

This board really lacks a comprehensive NPC thread.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: narphoenix on August 07, 2013, 03:32:51 AM
Ok, this is her. Critiques appreciated. She's at Scuba Diving.

Name: The Bride, AKA Black Mamba, AKA
(click to show/hide)

HC: Best Assassin In The World
TA: Kill Bill

OA:
Former Member of the Deadly Vipers
Pai Mei's Favorite Student
Ridiculously Deadly
Owner of the Last Hittori Hanzo Sword
Implacable Woman

Skills:

Fantastic (+6): Weapons, Fists
Superb (+5): Endurance, Athletics
Great (+4): Guns, Alertness
Good (+3): Might, Conviction
Fair (+2): Discipline, Intimidation, Scholarship
Average (+1): Presence, Burglary, Stealth

Powers:

Inhuman Strength [-2]
Inhuman Speed [-2]
Inhuman Toughness [-2]
Inhuman Recovery [-2]

Stunts:

No Pain, No Gain [-1]
Wall of Death [-1]
Linguist [-1]
Riposte [-1]
Off Hand Weapons Training [-1]
Quick Draw [-1]
My Weapon Speaks for Me [-1]
Follow Through Cut [-1]

Refresh Cost: -16
Base Refresh: 17
Starting Refresh: 1

Stress:

Mental: OOOO
Physical: OOOO(OO) +2 Mild
Social: OOO

This is the Bride. Those Inhuman Powers are what TvTropes calls Charles Atlas Superpowers. She makes attacks at Fantastic (+6) with her Hittori Hanzo sword, a blade that hits Weapon:3 (Weapon:5 with her strength powers). She will smite thee down. Swiftly. Her kickass Athletics comes from her scene against the Crazy 88, as well as how often she could dodge (helped by her Inhuman Speed). She takes beatings. She keeps on coming anyway. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: Sanctaphrax on August 07, 2013, 03:48:41 AM
I haven't seen the movie, so my comments will be a bit limited.

-Does she really need Linguist? She can speak three languages without it.
-No Pain No Gain probably isn't the best idea from an optimization perspective.
-Not sure if Off-Hand Weapons Training is appropriate. If you have that stunt then you'll never voluntarily fight with only one weapon, and I vaguely recall seeing a clip of her using one sword when multiple weapons were available.
-Riposte is a bit of an odd stunt to have when your Athletics defence is better than your Weapons defence. It forces you to take the risk of using a substandard defence if you want a chance to use it.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: narphoenix on August 07, 2013, 04:03:28 AM
I haven't seen the movie, so my comments will be a bit limited.

-Does she really need Linguist? She can speak three languages without it.
-No Pain No Gain probably isn't the best idea from an optimization perspective.
-Not sure if Off-Hand Weapons Training is appropriate. If you have that stunt then you'll never voluntarily fight with only one weapon, and I vaguely recall seeing a clip of her using one sword when multiple weapons were available.
-Riposte is a bit of an odd stunt to have when your Athletics defence is better than your Weapons defence. It forces you to take the risk of using a substandard defence if you want a chance to use it.

-She does need Linguist. She's shown speaking Japanese and Chinese, and she implies that she knows Spanish.
-Optimization? Maybe. From the standpoint of the ridiculous amount of punishment she takes? Perfectly appropriate.
-She does fight with two swords at one point, which is where I got that from.
-I'm actually going to switch her Athletics with her Fists. Because she pulls some ridiculous stuff with her bare hands.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: Arcane on August 07, 2013, 04:22:09 AM
Her "Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique" could possibly be modeled as a re-skinned Venomous Claws.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: Sanctaphrax on August 07, 2013, 04:46:48 AM
She doesn't need Linguist to speak Japanese and Chinese. She can do that with just her Scholarship.

You don't need a stunt to dual-wield.

And No Pain No Gain probably reduces the amount of punishment she can take by depriving her of a Fate Point.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: 123456789blaaa on August 07, 2013, 04:57:21 AM
So is this thread just for posting stats or are requests acceptable as well?
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: narphoenix on August 07, 2013, 08:25:01 AM
Her "Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique" could possibly be modeled as a re-skinned Venomous Claws.

I'd actually model that as a simple take out with Fists. The color came after.

@Sancta

1) But and Spanish too. And she probably knows a fair number more. The Vipers were international.

2) Fair enough. I'm thinking maybe Lethal Blow. The five point palm has to come from somewhere.

3) But she visibly takes damage and still keeps on coming.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: Troy on August 07, 2013, 03:11:26 PM
Also: I noticed a new Sponsored Magic on Troy's stat-practice thread. Do you know if Troy wants it to go onto the list/wiki?

I actually don't mind, it's just that I was discussing with another storyteller over there named Kagami and he was coaching me on how to model the Extra Benefit a bit better. His insight, being unfamiliar with the Charmed universe, was that the extra benefit I have was way overpowered. He gave me some advice from Fate developers on how to do "absolutes" and I think, in light of that conversation I would alter White Lighter Magic a bit.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: Sanctaphrax on August 07, 2013, 11:03:43 PM
1) But and Spanish too. And she probably knows a fair number more. The Vipers were international.

2) Fair enough. I'm thinking maybe Lethal Blow. The five point palm has to come from somewhere.

3) But she visibly takes damage and still keeps on coming.

1. If you say so. But seven languages seems like a lot for a fighter.
2. By that do you mean Killer Blow or Lethal Weapon? I wouldn't recommend the former, it's terrible.
3. Eh, fine. But there ought to be a better way to represent that mechanically.

I actually don't mind, it's just that I was discussing with another storyteller over there named Kagami and he was coaching me on how to model the Extra Benefit a bit better. His insight, being unfamiliar with the Charmed universe, was that the extra benefit I have was way overpowered. He gave me some advice from Fate developers on how to do "absolutes" and I think, in light of that conversation I would alter White Lighter Magic a bit.

Good idea. If you could post the revised version to the Sponsored Magic thread on the Resources board, I'd appreciate it.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: Troy on August 09, 2013, 04:03:33 AM
Now that I understand the game a lot better, I'll have to re-work some Stunts/Powers and post the Charmed Ones in this thread. Here's a preview: http://www.ragnarok.gamingsandbox.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=66#p358

The Stunts are wonky because I didn't know how to design them, but now I know more.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: narphoenix on August 09, 2013, 04:17:38 AM
Now that I understand the game a lot better, I'll have to re-work some Stunts/Powers and post the Charmed Ones in this thread. Here's a preview: http://www.ragnarok.gamingsandbox.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=66#p358

The Stunts are wonky because I didn't know how to design them, but now I know more.

Paige having Thaumaturgy knocks a Refresh off of White Lighter Magic.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: vultur on August 10, 2013, 05:32:27 AM
Here are characters from Simon R. Green's "Secret Histories" series (they're very gonzo/over-the-top urban fantasy having to do with the Drood family, who are the secret protectors against supernatural threats/rulers of humanity).

Edwin Drood

Power Level: In A Submarine

High Concept: Black Sheep/Leader of the Drood Family
Trouble: Anything For The Family
Other Aspects: Molly, My Love (And How Did That Happen?);
An Agent, Not An Assassin
Dislike Authority Figures (Even Though I Am One);
Protect, Don't Rule;
What Happened to My Parents?

Skills
Superb: Fists, Investigation
Great: Alertness, Deceit, Endurance, Intimidation
Good: Burglary, Conviction, Guns, Lore
Fair: Driving, Might, Presence, Stealth
Average: Discipline, Empathy, Rapport, Scholarship

Stunts
False Identity (Deceit): When using one particular cover identity, any attempt using Investigation or Alertness to see through this disguise is at an additional +2 difficulty. The identity can be changed at major milestones.

Powers
Item of Power: Merlin Glass (Item of Power Rebate [+1])
     Worldwalker [-2]
Stealth Mode [-2]: +3 to all Stealth rolls. Cannot be photographed or recorded by any kind of electronics unless he wants to be.
The Sight [-1]
Human Form [+1] affecting all of the following:
Claws [-1]
Mythic Toughness [-6]
     The Catch [+1]: the Claws power of other Droods; Outsider attacks and mordite
Supernatural Speed [-4]
Supernatural Strength [-4]

Total Refresh Cost: -18
Remaining Refresh: 3

Notes
This is sort of a composite of different books, mostly the earlier ones. His Aspects have not changed for END OF SIXTH BOOK BIG SPOILER.

The Merlin Glass shows up a LOT,  so it gets on his sheet permanently. He gets lots of other one-shot items, which I'm not sure how to model; Ritual (Crafting) is the obvious answer, but Edwin is totally not a spellcaster and that would require giving him a Discipline score which I really don't think he deserves... he's mentally tough, but it strikes me as more Conviction "forge through anyway" stuff than Discipline, and
(click to show/hide)

The Catch for his Toughness is converted to a Dresdenverse equivalent. In the books, Drood armor can be penetrated by weapons formed from other Drood armor, strange matter (in the first book only?), certain extradimensional weapons, some alien energy weapons, stuff like that.

Next: Molly Metcalf. Thinking Wizard template with 10 Refinements and Seelie Magic.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: Sanctaphrax on August 10, 2013, 06:15:47 AM
The Merlin Glass shows up a LOT,  so it gets on his sheet permanently. He gets lots of other one-shot items, which I'm not sure how to model; Ritual (Crafting) is the obvious answer, but Edwin is totally not a spellcaster and that would require giving him a Discipline score which I really don't think he deserves...

Ritual (Crafting) doesn't require Discipline. You never roll to control anything when Crafting.

And if that doesn't fit him, there's Bag Of Tricks.

Incidentally, I think that Catch sounds worse than a +1 Catch.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: vultur on August 10, 2013, 05:29:26 PM
Ritual (Crafting) doesn't require Discipline. You never roll to control anything when Crafting.

Ah, cool.

Edwin isn't a crafter himself, but he has access to the Drood arsenal of magical items.

Quote
Incidentally, I think that Catch sounds worse than a +1 Catch.

I determined it as Knowledge: +0 (both catches seem very poorly known), availability: +1 (rare class of beings).

Later in the books it's arguably Knowledge +1 though.
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: InFerrumVeritas on August 10, 2013, 05:52:34 PM
Drood Armor is flat out PI.  They talk about being completely invulnerable in there. 

Strange matter does it in the first book
(click to show/hide)
.
There are some very few, specific outsider weapons that can.  Most of them don't.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Characters from Fandom?
Post by: vultur on August 10, 2013, 09:07:08 PM
Drood Armor is flat out PI.  They talk about being completely invulnerable in there. 

Sometimes they talk like that, but in book 4 ultra-supernaturally-strong monsters are able to punch hard enough that the shock transfers through the armor and wounds/beats up the Drood inside it (also in book 6, but it gets defeated before much damage is done). The ARMOR itself won't break, but... the person inside is still taking consequences.

I believe it's also stated that the armor probably won't stand up to really extreme things like nukes, but we don't actually see that.