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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months stuck?
« on: December 20, 2024, 03:37:17 AM »
The last time I remember that Jim posted percentages for a book’s completion was for Ghost Story.  He might have also done so for Cold Days, but I am less certain about that.

In any case, Jim did this on Twitter and in one post he said that the percentage of completion was based on the expected word count Jim had calculated before he started writing.  So in a simple example, if Jim calculated; or guesstimated based on past experience, that a particular novel would take 100,000 words to complete, when he reached 90,000 words, he would post that he was 90% completed.

However, there was a problem with Ghost Story.  Jim needed an extra ten or fifteen thousand words to wrap up that story in the way that he wanted.  So when Jim got to 100%, he wasn’t done.  It only took a few more days for Jim to complete, but it was annoying having to wait, no longer having a clue how long it would be.  I don’t think Jim ever posted anything that told us how far past 100% of his expected word count he went.  I just recall a post that was so short and to the point about Jim sending the manuscript to his publisher that I had to read it twice to be certain.

As of today, Jim has been stuck on 89% for the past two weeks, which does surprise me a bit.  I thought he would really be pushing hard to finish before year’s end.  Of course, I have no idea what is going on in Jim’s life that could have forced him to put the brakes on. For example, there is a nasty flu going around in North America at the present.  In fact, I have heard there are two separate strains of flu currently making the rounds.  This might be true as I was vaccinated near the end of November and still got the flue a week later.

Hopefully, whatever slowed Jim down will be resolved and hopefully he has a much better estimate of his percentage of completion than he did with Ghost Story.   

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DF Spoilers / A crescendo of deliberate continuity errors
« on: December 20, 2024, 03:09:04 AM »
I think with Twelve Months we will reach a crescendo of continuity errors.  Well, maybe Peace Talks and Battle Ground was where the crescendo occured and Twelve Months will contain the coda of the continuity errors we have been seeing for a long time now.  The topic of continuity errors isn’t anything new, but I noticed how both frequent and egregious they became in Peace Talks and Battle Ground and I am seeing them in my most recent reread of Skin Game, which I’m only half way through.

It is particularly noticeable in Peace Talks when Harry tells Lara while they are doing some staff training that he has a guy watching Justine but at the end of Battle Ground Lara berates Harry for not telling her that he had someone watching Justine. 

In Skin Game, while Butters was telling Harry all the reasons why he was losing trust in him, he told Harry that his ghost told Butters and company that he was dead and gone.  Of course, that didn’t happen at all.  Harry’s ghost self specifically told Butters that he didn’t know if his condition was permanent.  It was Mort who was certain that Harry having produced a shade meant that the real Harry was dead and gone.

There is also the dream sequence in Skin Game where Harry sees multiple versions of himself and Molly driving down the same road.  These errors are not errors at all, but clues to the fact that a multiverse is in existence.  Actually, I think that is pretty obvious by now to just about everyone.  I think what isn’t obvious is what this will lead to.  It will lead to a confrontation and conclusion in Mirror Mirror.

The real significance of Mirror Mirror won’t be Harry meeting his evil self.  The Harry that made one bad choice in Grave Peril that led to series of other bad choices.  Superficially, that is exactly what will happen, but I suspect the greater significance of this meeting is it will lead to a fulcrum event.  When all the alternate versions of Harry and company will settle onto a single path, for better or for worse.   

All the slightly different versions don’t necessarily have to become one; though I suppose that might happen, but either our Harry wins and all the other versions of Harry can continue to fight the good fight or all of them are tainted or cut short by Alt-Harry’s path. 

I think with the conclusion of Mirror Mirror, we will see the end of the Brighter Future Society and the Better Future Society seeming to exist at the same time, along with other minor contradictions, unless Jim makes a real mistake and none of the Beta readers spot it.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Looking for a WOJ?
« on: December 20, 2024, 12:52:55 AM »
And I think 13 is too high a number.  Simply because too many major support characters could be Nemesis agents at any one time to allow Harry to have any realistic chance of opposing them.

I think three is a much better number for Nemesis to be able to control at one point in time.  Three is not only a magic number and a prime number, but it also equals the number of queens in either Summer or Winter and it is also equal to the triple headed goddess.  But what really makes me think three is the right number is there are only three walkers.  Each can control one individual.

Three is also a good number from a practical level.  For example, we know both Cat Sith and Justine are nemfected.  My guess is Nemesis is holding Cat Sith in reserve for a future operation.  In any case, if Nemesis can only control three individuals at one time, it could have a third agent that is close to Harry or isn’t usually close to Harry but can gain access to him, like Elaine or is someone within the White Council.

To put it another way, Nemesis has already had agents in Summer and Winter and Justine was their plant in the White Court, so my guess is the White Council is the most likely organization for Nemesis to want to plant an agent within, unless they already control of Elaine or one of the Alphas.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry's full name
« on: December 06, 2024, 09:20:33 AM »
Furthermore, there was a WOJ that, basically, Harry is a somewhat unique case where others trying to use his name against him would instead be making themselves vulnerable rather than getting power over him.  That was in reference to Harry as narrator ending SF with his name and "conjure by it at your own risk".

That might be another aspect of being starborn besides just immunity to and influence over outsiders that hasn't been explored yet.

Yes, I believe there was a Q&A session on YouTube where Jim said this.  I think it was posted on YouTube.  That was many years ago, probably within a year of when Cold Days came out, because someone asked Jim about the way Harry used his name like it was a weapon he could use to force the HWWBf to answer him. 

Let's see, Cold Days was released November 27, 2012.  So, to find that exact video, you would probably have to go through every video Jim did in 2013 or at the very end of 2012, that is still posted online.

A transcript might also by posted in the WoJ section, under Frequently Asked Questions, though there is an awful lot stuff to go through there.

OK, I looked at the WoJ section and found this.  It wasn't as hard to find as I feared it would be.  It came from a Q&A Jim did at a book signing in 2013 in Kansas City.

Q - "When Harry is battling Sharkface in the end, is that all in his head, or did everybody there hear?
A - And the answer to that is yes. It’s all going on in his head, and everybody there heard. Which, if you’ll remember the closing to book 1, because book 1 was written from the perspective of a guy who has already finished his story, um, all the books are really, they're him looking back, you get to the end book 1, and Harry says “My name is Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden, but conjure by it at your own risk” which, you know, there’s a reason for that. Figured I’d just throw that in there. Really, Harry’s one of those guys whose name is more dangerous to other people than it is to him, in a lot of ways, a lot of people would be vulnerable by doing that, he’s not. We’ll get to see that in the future."


I don't think we haven't seen Harry use his name like that since then.  Makes me wonder when it will happen again.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Ebenezar said something that confuses me and p's me off
« on: December 04, 2024, 03:21:48 AM »
I thought of this possibility right after I posted my original post to open this thread, but I wanted to wait to see if anyone else came up with the same idea.

What if Nemesis isn’t an Outsider?  What if Nemesis was originally a card carry member of our universe, but after some titanic conflict in the distant past, was driven outside our reality as punishment for past crimes and or to prevent future calamities.  Unfortunately, Nemesis not only survived being the outside our reality, it thrived there and co-opted or took over the Outsiders that existed there, and ever since doing so, has been trying to get back inside our reality.

If the knowledge that Nemesis isn’t an Outsider has been passed down from those who were in the know to those who have need know, then Morgan and te Senior Council isn’t afraid Harry can be possessed by an Outsider, they are afraid Harry can be possessed by Nemesis.  In this scenario, their fear of Harry being “a creature of Nemesis” make more sense.

 

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DF Spoilers / Ebenezar said something that confuses me and p's me off
« on: November 26, 2024, 11:30:51 PM »
OK, I'm not really angry, but this quote from Peace Talks just might derail several ideas that I and other readers have been discussing the past week or two.  More than that, it confuses Jim's narrative.  Jim probably has it all worked out so it will make sense, but I still find it annoying.  So without further delay, here is what Ebenezar said to Harry in Peace Talks about what it means to be Starborn.

Ebenezar - "Every couple or three generations, the stars lineup just right, and what amounts to a spotlight plays over the earth for a few hours.  Any child born within that light-"
Harry -      "Is starborn. I get it. What does it mean?"
Ebenezar - "Power against the Outsiders.  Among other things, that their minds can't be magically tainted by contact with anything from Outside.  Which means.."

Which means to me, why the hell was Morgan, the Merlin and anyone else on the White Council; who knows about Nemesis and what it means to be starborn, afraid that Harry was "molded to be a creature of Nemesis."?  That last quote is from Morgan's Microfiction.

Didn't they know that Harry is starborn?  Rereading Morgan's Microfiction for the umptieth time, he doesn't say anything about Harry being starborn, so I suppose it's possible Morgan didn't know.  But Morgan should have known that that possibility existed, unless he didn't know anything about being starborn.

Let me stop for a moment and say why Morgan should have known that Harry might be starborn.  Morgan states that he failed to keep his promise to Margaret to protect her child.  So Margaret LeFay contacted Morgan when she was pregnant.  I doubt it was a face to face meeting because the Wardens had been ordered to arrest Margaret on site and Morgan was a stickler for following orders, but I digress.  The possibility of being starborn only happens once every 666 years.  You would think that the higher ups in the White Council would be hyper aware of this date.  Do you see the issue here and the problems it might create?

Morgan should have been able to put two and two together and realized what Margaret was doing or at least suspected she was trying to create a starborn child.  Even if Morgan didn't find out about Margaret's death until a few days after it occurred, he should have wanted to establish the time of her death and Harry's birth.  Unless Morgan didn't know anything about being starborn or perhaps he had heard the term, but didn't know what it meant.  So under this scenario, Morgan knew about Nemesis but didn't know anything about people who are starborn.  I suppose that is possible, but it seems a bit weak to me.

What about the Merlin and others on the senior Council?  What is their excuse?  Surely, when they heard that Margaret LeFey had died while giving birth, they should have been asking what day she died and what time it was.  Shouldn't they have a calendar with the date and time for people who are going to be starborn marked off?  Wouldn't they have been checking the birthdate and time of birth of anyone showing enough magical talent
to be admitted to the Council, so they would know if that person was starborn?  We know that Ebenezar and Listen's to Winds know that Harry is starborn.  They can't be the only one's on the Council who knows this. 

Unless, they do know, but only Ebenezar knows that being starborn insures protection against Outsiders.  If that was the case, why didn't Ebenzar just tell the members of the Senior Council that Harry couldn't be tainted by Nemesis?  I understand that wizards don't like revealing secrets, but this idea borders on the ridiculous.

Other potential problems with this passage: 

Is Elaine starborn or not?  Because if she is, that kills the OP and a big chunk of a thread I started about Elaine being nemfected.  On the positive side, it might explain why Jim hasn't given us a straight yes or no answer to Elaine's starborn status.  So, I could still be right.

Was the White Council trying to create their own starborn?  Because, if Eb and maybe LTW are the only ones on the White Council who knows what being starborn means, it kills that idea.  It would also kill the idea I had that Harry being a destroyer is related to him being starborn.  I think this is highly unlikely, so if the Council wanted their own starborn, was that Elaine?  Did they fail or did they succeed?  We don't know.

Aside from knowing the date and time someone was born, is their another way to detect that someone is starborn?  Lea, Mab, Lash and I assume Odin/Vadderung know when Harry was born.  How did the Erl King in Cold Days and Drakul in Battleground know that Harry is starborn?  For that matter, how did Mavra know?  She specifically told one of the other Black Court vamps that Drakul got to eat anyone who is starborn.  Is there some supernatural data broker selling information on who is starborn or is there something in Harry's aura that clues them in?  A bit off track, but if it is something in Harry's aura that clues-in the characters mentioned above, can Bob see it?  Would Bob know what it means? 

Getting back to Elaine, if being starborn is something that can be detected with supernatural powers, Titania must know if Elaine is starborn, because she would be able to detect it.  You would think that those in the White Council who are in-the-know about what being starborn means would want to create their own starborn detector.  Times and dates of birth can be fudged or simply mistaken. 

I'm trying to create a narrative where all of this makes sense, but it's a bit difficult.  Most of the Senior Council doesn't know that Harry is starborn.
I refuse to believe that, at least for now.  So, the Senior Council knows that Harry is starborn, but for some unknown reason think he might be vulnerable to Nemesis.  Being a destroyer that Morgan feared might be related to Harry being starborn, but it might be something else.  A lot of supernatural heavyweights and at least one supernatural middleweight know that Harry is starborn, but we aren't exactly sure how all of them got this information.  Elaine might also be starborn, but she might not be one.  If Elaine is starborn, then she can't be nemfected, unless there is a exception that can allow Nemesis to posses someone who is starborn.  While this would explain why Morgan and the Senior Council feared and still fear Harry, it completely violates what Ebenezar told Harry in the long quote above.



     

   

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Just to nail down one small point.  To a fairly high degree, we can be certain that no one else on the Council knows that the Gate Keeper has the means to detect Nemesis.  From Cold Days:

Harry -  "Steel," I said.
Rashid - "Pardon?" he asked.
Harry  - "Your, uh, other eye. It was steel before."
Rashid - "I'm sure it looked like steel," he said. "The disguise is necessary when I'm not here."
Harry  - "Your job is so secret, your false eye gets a disguise?" I asked. "Guess I see why you miss Council meetings."

When he is playing his role as a member of the Senior Council, the Gate Keeper does not share much information, unless he feels the need to do so.



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Interesting that Morgan didn't insist on soul gazing Harry, you'd think that he would given his misgivings.

That is if the White Council is even worried about Outsiders or Nemesis, with the exception of Rashid and Harry I think it is unlikely that they are for the most part.  Rashid hints at this, that even the Senior Council knows very little about what he really does at the Gates, and apparently Rashid tells them very little.  When a potential young warlock is soul gazed, what they are interested in is how far down that road he or she has traveled and if he or she can be redeemed.. However I doubt they look very far beyond that.

From the Donald Morgan Microfiction:
"From then on, we could not be sure that the child was not molded to be a creature of Nemesis."

Morgan knew about Nemesis and that means that the Merlin knew.  I don't think it matters if the rest of the Senior Council knew, though I would guess that least one or two of them did.

As far as the reference to Harry possibly being a "destroyer," I think that is almost certainly tied up with Harry being starborn.  One more key element, or maybe the key element, that we do not yet understand about what it means to be starborn.  It is probably what Martha Liberty meant when she said to Ebenezar about Harry in Summer Knight, "You know what he was meant to be. He's too great a risk. "

That was also because Talia Winters was a psychic herself, and it was all part of the intrigue with the Psychcorps and Bester, it's been a while since I saw B5.  However I do remember the episode where Talia was required to scan a convicted criminal before he was sentenced. Since he knew what she was going to do, the murderer in turn screwed with her mind. It is possible that Nemesis could do the same thing if it was detected in a scan.. I believe that was one of the reasons why Rashid told Harry not to attempt it.

I've wondered about the same thing.  Can Nemesis do something that would cause serious harm to a wizard that was soulgazing a person that nemesis was hiding in?  Screw with that wizards mind or what about infecting that wizard?  It is something that I would consider asking Jim about the next time he does a Reddit Q&A session or if I were to see him in person at a Con or book signing.

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I am beginning to doubt that a soulgaze can detect Nemesis. I’m not where I can grab my copy of Cold Days, but doesn’t the Gate Keeper need his special eye; that is made from the same material as the Outer Gates itself, to detect Nemesis in a Winter soldier who is wounded and is being brought back through the Gates to our reality?  Granted, that the fae are not human, but Rashid used that eye to scan Harry in Turn Coat, rather than soulgazing him.  So, I’m guessing Rashid’s special eye is a better tool for this purpose or possibly the only tool he has for this purpose.

Let’s look at who soulgazed Harry and why this gives us a clue about detecting Nemesis.  The Merlin personally soulgazed the teenage warlock who was executed at the beginning of Proven Guilty, prior to his trial.  So, this makes me think that before his trial someone from the Council must have soulgazed Harry.

I think it was Ebenezar; because I also believe it would have been mentioned if Warden Morgan or the Merlin had soulgazed Harry.  In all of the occasions when Harry has talked about either of those two characters, you would think that experience would have been mentioned by now.  We know Eb soulgazed Harry at some point in time, just not exactly when.  In Summer Knight Harry says he “shared a soulgaze” with Eb at sometime in the past, but is non-specific about the circumstances of that soulgaze.

It may not be likely, but I suppose it is also possible that prior to his trial someone else on the Council soulgazed Harry.  However, I don’t think it would be very good writing if in a future novel a member of the Wardens or anyone else on the Council; we haven’t been introduced to yet, would suddenly appear and say to Harry, “You remember me, of course.  I soulgazed you right after you were captured.”  That kind of writing would feel like like something I would see on the CW, some Netflix show or recent Disney series.  I don’t think Jim would do that, I’m just trying to cover all possible bases here.

Here’s the main point I’m trying to make.  It doesn’t matter if Ebenezar or some unknown character on the White Council soulgazed Harry.  This unknown character would be someone with experience and the trust of the Senior Council.  So either Eb or this notional character should have been able to recognize if Harry had been tampered with by Nemesis.  Right?

Not only that, both Eb and my unknown character would have had a duty to tell the Council that Harry had been tampered with, no matter how much it would have hurt Ebenezar to do so.  On the other hand, Ebenezar and my make believe character’s sworn word should have been enough for Morgan, the Merlin and the rest of the Senior Council to know that Harry was not tainted by Nemesis. 

That is, unless the Wardens and Senior Council do not believe a soulgaze can detect Nemesis.  It could be, the hidden personality inside someone tainted by Nemesis is buried so deep, it can’t be seen by a soulgaze, unless Nemesis wants to be seen.

Once again, I am obliquely reminded of the Babylon 5 character Talia Winter’s, who had to have a special psychic password sent to her to force her hidden personality to the surface.  Lyra Alexander; the other telepath on Babylon 5, couldn’t just scan Talia to find this personality.  She needed a special psychic tool to do what needed to be done.  Much like the Gate Keeper needs his special eye to detect Nemesis. 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months stuck?
« on: November 22, 2024, 02:24:21 AM »
84% today.  That is what I was looking for.  Sure, Thanksgiving (in the U.S. as opposed to Canada) is next Thursday, but Jim could finish or be in the high 90’s before then, if he has to travel for the Holiday.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months stuck?
« on: November 21, 2024, 11:03:00 AM »
Went to 82% today.  So, it looks like Jim is back in the saddle.  Hopefully we'll see some steady progress over the next week.


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DF Spoilers / Re: Politics and magic
« on: November 07, 2024, 01:38:39 AM »
Seeing as most people today don't believe in the supernatural; or at least don't believe in most of the older supernatural pantheons, the most likely people to seek out these kinds of deals would have been war lords of ancient times up until several hundred years ago.

Take for example the Merovingian King Clovis I; who is historically important because while conquering Gaul in the 6th century, he converted to Nicene Christianity and doing so got the Frank tribes he led to do the same thing.  If you read his conversion story, it is not inspirational or have any feeling of being a miracle.  It reads like someone who took the Pepsi challenge and decided that Pepsi does taste better than Coca-Cola. 

Clovis was in a battle with a rival and was losing and is reported by his biographer Gregory of Tours to have said something like this: "Jesus, I know of you." (Clovis wife Clotilda had already converted and Clovis wasn't happy about that.  She was the only person who would stand up to Clovis that he would not kill, because he was known for killing anyone else who did so.)  "My gods are letting me down.  If you can do better, I will follow you and make my people do the same." (I'm heavily paraphrasing here.)  Right about then an arrow or spear hit the enemy leader in the head and killed him outright, leading to an instant victory for Clovis as the enemy forces; seeing their leader fall, fled the field.

In a Dresden Files universe you could easily see someone like Clovis; instead of being converted to Christianity (Sort of, he was still an unpredictable and extremely dangerous man who killed most of his family, except his wife and children.) making a deal with Odin or any other supernatural heavy hitter who has an interest in humanity. 

The thing is, there have been many, many kings and rulers and a lot more petty warlords who aspired rule their own kingdom.  So, the real question is, why would Odin or any supernatural being like Mab want to back any particular mortal?  It would have to be someone who could push the agenda of that supernatural being and be in the right place and time to do so. 

So, maybe not very many rulers or would be rulers would have had the potential that Mab, Odin or any other big supernatural player, would have wanted, to make the kind of difference they desired.  A lot of those who tried to make deals might have ended like the trumpet player in Summer Knight, who told Maeve that he would die in order to play a great solo.  Remember, he played the solo and he then died.  These type of leaders and wouldbe leaders would have just been play things for much of the supernatural world.       

 

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I'm not at all sure how much actual independent intelligence the White Court demons possess.  When they're in control, they seem to act primarily on predatory instinct.  It might have the same sort of awareness that a hungry bear or tiger has, not purely mindless but not really thinking in any abstract or sophisticated way, either.  Thomas' demon might perceive that he drew spiritual support from his relationship with Justine, but I'm not sure it has any grasp of why or what that means.

Remember, too, what Thomas told Harry:  the demon tries to feed at any time when there is flesh-to-flesh contact with another human.  Most of the time, the human host can suppress it, which is why a White Court vampire can shake someone's hand or something without feeding.  They only go full silver eyes if they go too long without feeding.

Thomas mentioned that Madeline had never trained herself to suppress the reflex, but he was kind of contemptuous about it, apparently most of the WC do manage to control it most of the time.

That said, I agree with Mira that there is almost surely an Outsider connection of some kind with the parasites.  It's interesting that Thomas and Lara both use 'empty night' as a swear phrase.

How intelligent the White Court demons might be is difficult to determine.  I suspect there is more intelligence than just that of an animal while in hunting mode.  The clue that tells me this is in the soulgaze that Harry shared with Thomas.

The Hunger hissed more words at Thomas. "What is it saying?" I asked.

"It's telling him to give up. That there's no point in fighting anymore. That it will never leave him in peace."


Perhaps the demon wasn't using actual words.  That could be Harry's projection of what was happening.  Even if the demon was only communicating with unspoken ideas and images, that shows a degree of intelligence a bit above being a shark or polar bear on the hunt.

They don't have free will once the Hunger Demon gets hold, for that reason Uriel would feel sympathy..

I don't think this is true, otherwise how did Lara stop herself twice; once while in the Raith Deeps and a second time after Harry blasted both of them out of the Deeps, when she would have been hungry after using so much energy.  Lara has learned to master her hunger when she needs to do so or sees a valid reason to do so.  The valid reason was keeping her promise to Harry and honoring his guest rights.  Of course, if Lara had been starving she probably would not have been able to hold back.

This means Lara; and by extension, all White Court vampires have free will, unless they are pushed to extremis.  Though their demon exerts constant pressure on them, it can be controlled, at least to a degree.  This is why Uriel feels sympathy for the members of the White Court.  Their free will to make a better choice isn't eliminated but is severely constrained and they are always being pushed to just give in and go the other way.

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Unless Harry looked into a mirror while using his Sight, there is no way he should know what the sign of HWWB looks like or that he even carries it.  I picture Harry learning about it in one of two, maybe three ways, the last one being the most likely one.

1. Lea might have mentioned it as part of her pitch to 16 year-old Harry to get him to make a deal with her.  She could have said something like this:  "I see the mark of HWWB; the demon that was called up by Justin DuMorne, is upon you.  That you survived meeting this creature is impressive..."  My guess is Lea would see that mark every time she saw Harry.  She doesn't need to call up a special power like wizards do.

2. Justin DuMorne might have mentioned it to Harry before their final fight.  It could have sounded something like this:  "I see you have met HWWB.  His mark is upon you."  The problem with this scenario is Justin would have to have been using his Sight when he was looking at Harry, and I can't think why he would want to do that.

3. Warden Morgan used to use his Sight on Harry after Harry was captured by the Wardens or just by Morgan.  While Harry was bound he overheard Morgan describe the mark and name HWWB.  Did anyone else on the Council use their wizard sight to look on Harrry.?  Hard to say, but I don't see why anyone else would do that, except perhaps Ebenezar.

This scenario fits in nicely with Morgan using his Site to check for possible spies hiding under a veil at Mac's in Dead Beat, but avoiding looking at Harry while do so.  Morgan wouldn't want to see that mark again if he could simply ignore looking at it.   

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months stuck?
« on: November 06, 2024, 11:37:43 PM »
I noticed as well. :)  It's great for the book, but having once suffered a similar injury, I hope Jim is now fully pain free and can continue to remain that way.

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