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Title: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Quantus on August 10, 2017, 02:17:58 PM
The Challenge is to identify an actor that perfectly fits the Character, while not actually looking like the physical descriptions in the novels.

My go-to example for such things is the casting of Lestat for Interview with a Vampire vs Queen of the Damned; I thought Townsend did a far better job with the tone and personality of Lestat than Tom Cruise did, but Cruise was the proper Blued-eyed Blond (if about a foot too short). 

Another example, Jim said once that he thought Will Smith would make a great Harry Dresden. 

So, Ill start:

Father Forthill:
Jemaine Clement
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/34b75953e3e986c46525bc42d46247b5/tumblr_om7g9kUTxJ1qiaxzfo4_r1_400.gif)


Mac:
Bruce Willis
(https://www.claimfame.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Bruce-Willis-Net-Worth.jpg)


Molly Carpenter:
Alisha Wainwright
(https://tv-fanatic-res.cloudinary.com/iu/s--ACi5B9KO--/f_auto,q_auto/v1487017287/maias-smile-shadowhunters-s2e7)


Michael:
Idris Elba
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7f/83/15/7f83151557f786d51a8292252c0eaf5e--elba-actor-idris-elba.jpg)


Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 10, 2017, 08:04:27 PM
Michael - Christopher Judge
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cb/ef/52/cbef52c6e367d46e0f386f7c816f672c.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Quantus on August 10, 2017, 09:52:23 PM
Hmmm, I love the guy, but at least onscreen Ive never seen him loosen up to be able to picture him as Michael (no to say he cant, but Id want him to audition a scene or two).  Not that Michael is particularly "loose" persay, but he's a lot softer around his kids than the ever-present formality I associate with Teal'c



I could see Nathan Fillion doing it, based purely on the episode of Castle where his daughter gets kidnapped.  Mama Bears got nothin' on him. 



Any Ideas for a Mortimer?  Im struggling to find the right mix of Cowardice and indignation. 
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 11, 2017, 02:39:17 AM
Hmmm, I love the guy, but at least onscreen Ive never seen him loosen up to be able to picture him as Michael (no to say he cant, but Id want him to audition a scene or two).  Not that Michael is particularly "loose" persay, but he's a lot softer around his kids than the ever-present formality I associate with Teal'c



I could see Nathan Fillion doing it, based purely on the episode of Castle where his daughter gets kidnapped.  Mama Bears got nothin' on him. 



Any Ideas for a Mortimer?  Im struggling to find the right mix of Cowardice and indignation.
https://youtu.be/NJGX7xevomI
Here's Judge being casual in a Mamoa interview.  He can be normal, too, but does a great job of carrying himself in a un-intimidating manner.  That's the key for Michael to me.  Being a big guy that doesn't try to look big.

As for Mortimer, if I were casting 15 years ago, I'd of said Steve Paymer, no doubt about it.  He doesn't match the description of Mort's weight, but he could easily do the smarmy burnt out Mort and the respectable and stubbornly anti-Harry Mort.
(http://famousdude.com/images/david-paymer-04.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Quantus on August 11, 2017, 12:36:12 PM
https://youtu.be/NJGX7xevomI
Here's Judge being casual in a Mamoa interview.  He can be normal, too, but does a great job of carrying himself in a un-intimidating manner.  That's the key for Michael to me.  Being a big guy that doesn't try to look big.
He's a casual guy in interviews, Ive just never seen him Act a character on that side of things.  What I need is a stargate episode featuring body swapping; did he ever have to play Jack stuck in Teal'c's Body?


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As for Mortimer, if I were casting 15 years ago, I'd of said Steve Paymer, no doubt about it.  He doesn't match the description of Mort's weight, but he could easily do the smarmy burnt out Mort and the respectable and stubbornly anti-Harry Mort.
(http://famousdude.com/images/david-paymer-04.jpg)
Oh, Perfect!! The poor soul he played in Oceans 13 is what Ive seen him in most recently, and it had just about the same tone
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Rasins on August 11, 2017, 04:50:04 PM
Michael - Christopher Judge
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cb/ef/52/cbef52c6e367d46e0f386f7c816f672c.jpg)

I'd like to have seen him as Sonya.
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 11, 2017, 05:19:53 PM
I'd like to have seen him as Sonya.
Meh for me.  I typically picture Sanya as being his size, but younger.  A bulked up Anthony Mackie would be perfect, but as he is, he's not quite big enough.  I could see him delivering the lines, though.
(http://4.darkroom.shortlist.com/980/6b834cd264465d09ae985621992da993:22102fe2e9db8ad158addad8072bf79c/anthony-mackie-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Mr. Death on August 14, 2017, 08:14:54 PM
Hmmm, I love the guy, but at least onscreen Ive never seen him loosen up to be able to picture him as Michael (no to say he cant, but Id want him to audition a scene or two).  Not that Michael is particularly "loose" persay, but he's a lot softer around his kids than the ever-present formality I associate with Teal'c
There's one episode of SG-1 where Teal'c and O'Neill get mind-swapped, and he nails all of Richard Dean Anderson's mannerisms and personality as O'Neill.

He can do it.
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 14, 2017, 11:56:08 PM
Reginald VelJohnson as Stallings, with Darius McCrary as Rawlins.  VJ doesn't match Stallings exactly, and McCrary might be smaller than Rawlins is supposed to be.  But it's pretty much mandatory that VJ play a cop.
(http://st.depositphotos.com/1694341/1300/i/950/depositphotos_13006198-stock-photo-reginald-veljohnson-and-darius-mccrary.jpg)

Also, for the record, William Hootkins (RIP) as Eckardt from Batman is the definitive Carmichael.
(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/7/77/William_Hootkins_Mug.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141013211332)

Since he's no longer available, I'd settle for Jason Alexander doing an impression.
(https://pmctvline2.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/jason-alexander-new-show.jpg?w=620)

On a random tangent, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Vadderung.  He's younger than most candidates, but I feel like a little gray hair and makeup will allow him to fit it nicely.  He's got a wolfish look, and his cocksure grin is very Odin-like. 
(https://indieethos.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/nikolaj-coster-waldau-i-tusen-ganger-god-natt-e1414066407266.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Quantus on August 15, 2017, 12:40:08 PM
On a random tangent, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Vadderung.  He's younger than most candidates, but I feel like a little gray hair and makeup will allow him to fit it nicely.  He's got a wolfish look, and his cocksure grin is very Odin-like. 
(https://indieethos.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/nikolaj-coster-waldau-i-tusen-ganger-god-natt-e1414066407266.jpg)
Way too close to the actual descriptions methinks (though maybe the Norse god should get a pass?), for a Vadderung Im thinking more along the lines of:

Peter Mensah
(http://i39.tinypic.com/aoxgli.jpg)

Lance Reddick
(http://p.fod4.com/p/channels/legacy/profile/1243870/1e113e244f5fe7018cddc2911e1673e0.jpg)

Admittedly, it's basically my same list for Alternative Marcone's as well, though you can imagine why there's a lot of cross-over there.  There are also a ton of aging Kung fu stars that could work great but Im drawing a blank on any specifics.

Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Rasins on August 15, 2017, 04:21:34 PM
An alternative for Vadderung ...

(click to show/hide)

I know, I know ... but you have to admit, it could be made to work.
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Quantus on August 15, 2017, 05:56:00 PM
An alternative for Vadderung ...

(click to show/hide)

I know, I know ... but you have to admit, it could be made to work.
Im willing to allow she can be made to work in just about /any/ role.  But she'd be wasted as Vadderung, she's too high on too many other casting lists.  Id use her as Mavra or almost any denarian or Sidhe first; Id go for uriel but she basically did that in Constantine.  Hell, she'd be an awesome Gard.
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 15, 2017, 09:30:16 PM
An alternative for Vadderung ...

(click to show/hide)

I know, I know ... but you have to admit, it could be made to work.
The link is broken for me.  Might be because I'm at work.

Way too close to the actual descriptions methinks (though maybe the Norse god should get a pass?), for a Vadderung Im thinking more along the lines of:

Peter Mensah
http://i39.tinypic.com/aoxgli.jpg

Lance Reddick
http://p.fod4.com/p/channels/legacy/profile/1243870/1e113e244f5fe7018cddc2911e1673e0.jpg

Admittedly, it's basically my same list for Alternative Marcone's as well, though you can imagine why there's a lot of cross-over there.  There are also a ton of aging Kung fu stars that could work great but Im drawing a blank on any specifics.
He's mostly different because of age.  I'll check your first alternative once I'm beyond the great fire wall.  Your second alternative would be better suited for Langtry, where his scowl could be put to good use.
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Quantus on August 15, 2017, 09:45:23 PM
The link is broken for me.  Might be because I'm at work.
He's mostly different because of age.  I'll check your first alternative once I'm beyond the great fire wall.  Your second alternative would be better suited for Langtry, where his scowl could be put to good use.
That's where I always get hung up on Casting: It wildly depends on which timeframe you are casting.  Marcone was already in his 40's in SF (salt&pepper beard), and that was close to 15 years ago.  Vadderung has a sense of vitality, but no real physical indications of age, persay.  So where do those two cross?

Hell, this all started from JB saying Will Smith would make a good Harry, but he's a couple decades past being able to play the 25yo Harry Dresden that started the series back in SF
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Rasins on August 16, 2017, 04:53:23 PM
And I present Mr. Arthur Langtry ...

(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000474/mediaviewer/rm1076795904)
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Quantus on August 16, 2017, 06:07:21 PM
And I present Mr. Arthur Langtry ...

(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000474/mediaviewer/rm1076795904)
Nah, these day's keaton plays sleezy better than arrogantly condescending.  Hugh Laurie is my go-to, I dont have a really good alternative

Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Mr. Death on August 16, 2017, 06:52:01 PM
And I present Mr. Arthur Langtry ...

(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000474/mediaviewer/rm1076795904)
Those photo links keep not working.
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Rasins on August 16, 2017, 07:21:59 PM
Sorry, MR. Death.  Mine are to IMDB.

Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 16, 2017, 10:18:37 PM
And I present Mr. Arthur Langtry ...

(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000474/mediaviewer/rm1076795904)
That image is broken for me as well.  The other one didn't load either.
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Quantus on August 17, 2017, 12:23:25 PM
That image is broken for me as well.  The other one didn't load either.
I think it might be IMDB, I dont think their site allows remote image links any more. I cant get them to work on Firefox or Explorer.
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 17, 2017, 12:27:09 PM
I think it might be IMDB, I dont think their site allows remote image links any more. I cant get them to work on Firefox or Explorer.
Photobucket annoyed me with their recent policy change doing the same.  Apparently the bajillion ads they had on every page of their site wasn't paying the bills.
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Quantus on August 17, 2017, 12:33:02 PM
Photobucket annoyed me with their recent policy change doing the same.  Apparently the bajillion ads they had on every page of their site wasn't paying the bills.
Same.  More than ten years of solid service and they went and killed it. 
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Dina on August 19, 2017, 06:16:30 AM
But obviously you were talking about Michael Keaton and Tilda Swinton before that.

The actor playing Han in the Fast & Furious would be a perfect Harry while Giselle (a.k.a. Wonder Woman) would be a great Susan.

Alt Molly; Arya Stark (Maisie Williams)
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: wardenferry419 on August 22, 2017, 10:39:32 AM
MY go to Molly is Adrienne Palicki.
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Con on August 22, 2017, 11:51:53 AM
Alternate Billy
(https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/teen-wolf-pack/images/8/8f/3x05_Stiles_smiling.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160316042205)
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Griffyn612 on August 22, 2017, 12:11:49 PM
Alternate Billy
(https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/teen-wolf-pack/images/8/8f/3x05_Stiles_smiling.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160316042205)
I'd counter with alternate Harry.  Or regular Harry, if he were taller.
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Quantus on August 22, 2017, 12:12:31 PM
Alternate Billy

I see your Billy and Counter with a pre-existing "Billy" from the recent power Rangers flick:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/10/08/18/3937136B00000578-3828572-image-m-40_1475946966808.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative Casting Challenge
Post by: Romulan Cmdr on August 28, 2017, 03:04:02 PM
I think that Lance Riddick would make a great Gatekeeper.

Also regarding Christopher Judge as Jack O'Neil -the episode is Holiday. the body swap scenes are hilarious.