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Title: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Mira on September 30, 2020, 12:21:32 PM


  Foreshadowing I think, the fact that he and Harry soul gazed, Harry saw a good solid man, like an oak tree.  What Bradley did to save the teacher and those kids in the daycare.  He reminds me somewhat of Michael.  I wouldn't be terribly shocked that when the third Sword is needed, Harry hands it over to him as the next Knight.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Serack on October 01, 2020, 03:49:03 PM
I suspect Bradley is smart enough to avoid that possibility
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Mira on October 01, 2020, 03:54:46 PM
I suspect Bradley is smart enough to avoid that possibility

At the same time he is the kind of solid guy if push came to shove he'd accept it.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Conspiracy Theorist on October 01, 2020, 06:07:22 PM
He is more likely to be a reluctant liaison to Harry from CPD.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 06:44:58 PM
He is more likely to be a reluctant liaison to Harry from CPD.
Just his luck he'd be transferred to SI, and the new boss Rawlins ("Just when I thought I was out, they keep pulling me back in") assigns him to Harry's beat.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Dina on October 05, 2020, 10:05:05 PM
Reluctant? Harry saved his life and, more important, his daughter's life (also, other kids and the daycare lady). And Murphy, who was working with Harry, gave her life for it. I think Bradley would be very grateful and help in all what he can.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: TrueMonk on October 05, 2020, 10:09:31 PM
So Harry has the eye of Hate/love and the sword of love and he is pretty much fuelled by love (of his daughter) and to some degree of the rest of humanity. I think he will pick both up at some point and it will be epic.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 06, 2020, 02:54:39 AM
Reluctant? Harry saved his life and, more important, his daughter's life (also, other kids and the daycare lady). And Murphy, who was working with Harry, gave her life for it. I think Bradley would be very grateful and help in all what he can.
What we know about Bradley is that he's a good fighter, he's in Internal Affairs rather than being a beat cop or SI, he's got a young child who had to stay at a night nursery while he was on shift, which means he may be a single dad, and he's already seen a bit of the supernatural and wanted to walk away.

I could easily see him thanking Harry softly and convincingly, and then just as quickly telling him he'll do nothing that might leave his kid an orphan.

Maybe angelic daycare at the Carpenters might change that, but seeing Michael be retired and crippled, and seeing Butters and Sanya working and crippled, and he's likely to say a respectful but firm No.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Mira on October 06, 2020, 04:34:10 AM
What we know about Bradley is that he's a good fighter, he's in Internal Affairs rather than being a beat cop or SI, he's got a young child who had to stay at a night nursery while he was on shift, which means he may be a single dad, and he's already seen a bit of the supernatural and wanted to walk away.

I could easily see him thanking Harry softly and convincingly, and then just as quickly telling him he'll do nothing that might leave his kid an orphan.

Maybe angelic daycare at the Carpenters might change that, but seeing Michael be retired and crippled, and seeing Butters and Sanya working and crippled, and he's likely to say a respectful but firm No.

But if he understands there are worse things that could threaten his child than just becoming an orphan, he might.  No one can say that Michael doesn't love his family, the last thing he wanted was to leave Charity a widow and his kids fatherless.  Yet, Michael carried that Sword into battle time after time, because he loved his family.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 06, 2020, 04:50:32 AM
But if he understands there are worse things that could threaten his child than just becoming an orphan, he might.  No one can say that Michael doesn't love his family, the last thing he wanted was to leave Charity a widow and his kids fatherless.  Yet, Michael carried that Sword into battle time after time, because he loved his family.
Yes, but just because there's evil, and someone knows there's evil, doesn't mean they're going to drop everything and potentially sacrifice their life and the security of their family to do something about it. 

How many times has Casa de Carpenter been attacked now?  The bad guys have shown up there, what, at least six books?  What are the odds Michael won't tell him, if he asks, that his own daughter was dragged out of the house by monsters?  That the panic room wasn't invaded in this last attempt?  That his youngest child was only barely spared from becoming a host to a fallen angel in the front yard?

I wouldn't blame the guy if he transferred out of Chicago after all of that. I certainly wouldn't blame him for not wanting to risk it all again and again.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Dina on October 06, 2020, 06:02:37 AM
I am not saying he will be a KotC or that he will become Mulder. But do you really see Harry asking him something concrete and him refusing? I would be disappointed if that is the case. Bradley really owns Harry too much (besides, I was thinking in things that could make Harry's life easier like in the first books when he worked with Murphy. He probably won't be asking Bradley to do something truly suicidal)
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Conspiracy Theorist on October 06, 2020, 06:55:51 AM
Reluctant? Harry saved his life and, more important, his daughter's life (also, other kids and the daycare lady). And Murphy, who was working with Harry, gave her life for it. I think Bradley would be very grateful and help in all what he can.

He has soulgazed Harry, he has seen his inner Sharknado.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Dina on October 06, 2020, 07:00:08 AM
So?
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Mira on October 06, 2020, 10:48:30 AM
He has soulgazed Harry, he has seen his inner Sharknado.

Or he saw what scared the cornerhounds saw.
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Yes, but just because there's evil, and someone knows there's evil, doesn't mean they're going to drop everything and potentially sacrifice their life and the security of their family to do something about it.

How many times has Casa de Carpenter been attacked now?  The bad guys have shown up there, what, at least six books?  What are the odds Michael won't tell him, if he asks, that his own daughter was dragged out of the house by monsters?  That the panic room wasn't invaded in this last attempt?  That his youngest child was only barely spared from becoming a host to a fallen angel in the front yard?

I wouldn't blame the guy if he transferred out of Chicago after all of that. I certainly wouldn't blame him for not wanting to risk it all again and again.
Um, the man is a police officer, it is what they do, battle the bad guys to keep us safe and a lot of them have died doing it.  So becoming a Holy Knight would be that much of a stretch, unless he repeats the same mistake Murphy made, make himself judge and jury.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Bad Alias on October 06, 2020, 04:08:37 PM
Um, the man is a police officer, it is what they do, battle the bad guys to keep us safe and a lot of them have died doing it.
I'm not sure how dangerous being in I.A. is. Most on duty deaths of cops are traffic accidents. That means most of the risk goes out the window when you're not spending all day on patrol in your car.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Mira on October 06, 2020, 05:08:39 PM
I'm not sure how dangerous being in I.A. is. Most on duty deaths of cops are traffic accidents. That means most of the risk goes out the window when you're not spending all day on patrol in your car.

He wasn't always an A.I., and he still swears an oath.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Bad Alias on October 06, 2020, 05:22:34 PM
He wasn't always an A.I., and he still swears an oath.
He probably wasn't always a single father.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Mira on October 06, 2020, 05:49:42 PM
He probably wasn't always a single father.

  What has that to do with the price of tea in China? 
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 06, 2020, 06:25:32 PM
  What has that to do with the price of tea in China?
Because the point I'm making is that if he's a single dad, he might very well have transferred to IA to avoid being in dangerous situations, in order to stay safe for his daughter.  If that's the case, then he wouldn't necessarily jump into sure danger as a KotC.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Bad Alias on October 06, 2020, 06:55:35 PM
Because the point I'm making is that if he's a single dad, he might very well have transferred to IA to avoid being in dangerous situations, in order to stay safe for his daughter.  If that's the case, then he wouldn't necessarily jump into sure danger as a KotC.
This.

Honestly, I'm ambivalent on what happens with Bradley. I don't really see KotC in his future, but Mira's right that there's sufficient groundwork so that it wouldn't be surprising if he ended up being Harry's contact in SI for 5 years or so, and he slowly became comfortable dealing with the supernatural. Like both Butters and Murphy did.

It also makes sense that he'd start looking for a job in Hawaii if they transferred him to SI.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 06, 2020, 07:06:07 PM
This.

Honestly, I'm ambivalent on what happens with Bradley. I don't really see KotC in his future, but Mira's right that there's sufficient groundwork so that it wouldn't be surprising if he ended up being Harry's contact in SI for 5 years or so, and he slowly became comfortable dealing with the supernatural. Like both Butters and Murphy did.

It also makes sense that he'd start looking for a job in Hawaii if they transferred him to SI.
Yup.  From a writer's perspective, JB spent too much time reminding the reader that Bradley is a good fighter for it to be completely irrelevant.  And maybe he'll get involved, and maybe even take up Amoracchius.  But I'm currently more inclined to think that it would be a slow build for him, with him maybe repaying the debt he owes Harry by training people how to fight.  Especially if Harry starts running a survivalist training camp out of his castle.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Bad Alias on October 06, 2020, 07:08:40 PM
I'm not sure if Jim can pay off all the threads he's laid out in the books. Which is fine. The best stories are never finished. Sometimes someone comes back to try, and it just ruins everything. I'm looking at you Star Wars films not 4-6.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 06, 2020, 07:32:57 PM
I'm not sure if Jim can pay off all the threads he's laid out in the books. Which is fine. The best stories are never finished. Sometimes someone comes back to try, and it just ruins everything. I'm looking at you Star Wars films not 4-6.
Hey, Rogue One was great. And that was the least necessary one out of all of them.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Dina on October 06, 2020, 07:59:42 PM
Yup.  From a writer's perspective, JB spent too much time reminding the reader that Bradley is a good fighter for it to be completely irrelevant.  And maybe he'll get involved, and maybe even take up Amoracchius.  But I'm currently more inclined to think that it would be a slow build for him, with him maybe repaying the debt he owes Harry by training people how to fight.  Especially if Harry starts running a survivalist training camp out of his castle.

This is a good idea too (the training or some help around these lines)
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Conspiracy Theorist on October 06, 2020, 11:37:58 PM
Hey, Rogue One was great. And that was the least necessary one out of all of them.

It was the only necessary one, it made the great flaw of Star Wars, the capability of a single small ship to destroy the Death Star it’s great virtue, it was sabotage all along and the secret bought at great cost of life.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Dina on October 06, 2020, 11:43:46 PM
Yes, and it was very, very good. (on a side note, I also liked SW:Rebels)
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: The_Sibelis on October 06, 2020, 11:53:49 PM
He has soulgazed Harry, he has seen his inner Sharknado.
true, but whatever he saw also made him decide to let Harry go do what he needed. Maybe he saw a monster like most seem to, but he saw a monster with a purpose.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Bad Alias on October 07, 2020, 12:36:09 AM
Yes, and it was very, very good. (on a side note, I also liked SW:Rebels)
Fine, fine. Numbered Star Wars movies not 4-6. SW: Rebels wasn't a movie.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Dina on October 07, 2020, 01:22:13 AM
Fine, fine. Numbered Star Wars movies not 4-6. SW: Rebels wasn't a movie.
It was just a side note  :) I know what you meant.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Bad Alias on October 07, 2020, 01:33:56 AM
It was just a side note  :) I know what you meant.
:) Yeah. There's plenty of good to excellent SW content that isn't any of those terrible, awful, no good movies.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Conspiracy Theorist on October 07, 2020, 04:56:10 PM
But Harry is still several years away from The Mandalorian, he still has Solo, and the Last Jedi to go. Don’t lose hope Harry.

Harry will love the Mandalorian.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Dina on October 07, 2020, 05:41:37 PM
Yes, he will  :D
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Mira on October 07, 2020, 06:26:52 PM
Yes, he will  :D

Does that mean that Bonea is baby Yoda? ::)
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Bad Alias on October 07, 2020, 08:01:58 PM
Does that mean that Bonea is baby Yoda? ::)
Powerful, check. Green, check. Young, check.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Conspiracy Theorist on October 07, 2020, 08:40:48 PM
She would be able to animate a Baby Yoda doll.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Dina on October 07, 2020, 09:25:56 PM
I have a baby Yoda (actually I have 3 but only one is an official doll, as the other 2 are one 3D printing and an amigurumi). The idea of it being animated by Bonea cracked me  :D
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Conspiracy Theorist on October 07, 2020, 10:39:58 PM
I have one myself, but I have modified it somewhat, but Harry did have a Cabbage Patch doll animated by something once, and Bob was able to animate a lion statue.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Dina on October 07, 2020, 10:43:29 PM
Oh, of course it would be possible! It just made me laugh.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Conspiracy Theorist on October 07, 2020, 10:47:23 PM
Sadly we are at least a couple of books away from such a scene
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Doughnut Despot on October 13, 2020, 08:20:38 PM
Yes, but just because there's evil, and someone knows there's evil, doesn't mean they're going to drop everything and potentially sacrifice their life and the security of their family to do something about it. 

How many times has Casa de Carpenter been attacked now?  The bad guys have shown up there, what, at least six books?  What are the odds Michael won't tell him, if he asks, that his own daughter was dragged out of the house by monsters?  That the panic room wasn't invaded in this last attempt?  That his youngest child was only barely spared from becoming a host to a fallen angel in the front yard?

I wouldn't blame the guy if he transferred out of Chicago after all of that. I certainly wouldn't blame him for not wanting to risk it all again and again.

At the rate Harry is going, he could invite the entirety of his friends and allies to live in Castle Dresden.
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Dina on October 13, 2020, 09:34:37 PM
Always a good idea to have a KotC in the building  :)
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: pcpoet on October 14, 2020, 03:36:08 AM
most of you miss the point with the swords.  those who pick up the sword have decided they have to use there free will to  submit to gods plan.   the type of people willing to do this feel that if not I to pick up the sword who.   
Title: Re: Bradley, A Canidate For the Sword of Love?
Post by: Bad Alias on October 14, 2020, 07:43:19 PM
those who pick up the sword have decided they have to use there free will to  submit to gods plan.
I don't think that's the case with Sanya. I think he thinks it's everyone's duty to work for the betterment of the community. Because he's a communist. (I know he said not communist, Trotskyist, but Trostkyism is a subset of communism).