I like referring to certain forum members by acronyms and nicknames.  It gives me a feeling of jovial familiarity that I like, and I figured I'd record them here for reference.  Not all of these are currently active.

2πr = Second Aristh (It works because his avatar is the symbol pi)
AA = AcornArmy
EMcB = Electric MacButters (RL friend)
LML = LogicMouseLives
ME = Myyrdn Eopia
TCF = TheCuriousFan

Nicknames:
neuro = the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh
Prisc, The Goddess = Priscellie, (Some also use cellie)
The Count = 1234567890blah
The Quackers = Ms Duck
Waldorf = Shecky

Other:
Fred or Fred Hicks = iago (site owner/admin)

I also think it sounds like a good notion. Also, it's actually 123456789blaaa. No 0, no h, and 2 more a's  .

I also noticed your trimming of the dictionary. Thank you for that. It seemed so bloated and if it wasn't for my laziness I'd probably have gone through it and suggested a potential trimming myself  .
 

Sounds like a very good notion. Voting in favor of the additions.

I don't think I've seen you around lately. Is this just my imagination or have you been offsite for a while (I mostly frequent the DF Spoilers and DFRPG sections so maybe you only haven't been visiting those lately?)?

Many thanks Serack  (and if it's not too much trouble, could you or another one of the mods move the debate on Mabs evilness? It kind of obstructs the topic of this thread. Thanks  ).

The problems with making such assumptions as you did is the side effects. If we apply your idea, it effects something else. That is the beauty of Jim's Dresden Files.

If we assume that Mab's soul could move up and down the spectrum from bright to dark during her tenure as the winter queen, you basically cheapens the corrupting power of the winter queen's mantle. Even the knight's mantle is already so powerfully corrupt as we saw in CD. The lady's mantle should be magnitudes more corruptive and Queens should be magnitudes more from the lady's.

If we assume that interactions with mortals could significantly brightens Mab's soul, and we must assume that it is significant because assumeing little will reduced the effect of moartal interactions itself, then we must assume that once upon a time Mab's soul is a lot darker than her current soul is.

If a soul that much darker than current Mab is redeemable, than the corruptive influence and the danger of total darkness becomes laughable. Even someone that is in deeper shit than Mab can be redeem, whats to worry about? And if Mab could move from a lot darker place to her current position, it will be easy for her to go fforewoard and brightens her soul even more. Why didn't she then?

You see how one assumption could open so many new can of worms?

I think you're confusing "having a soul" with "redemption". Look at Nicodemus: Jim has said he's "pure evil" and yet he totally has a soul and Free Will.

Not only that but having a soul can enable you to do horrible things. Someone like Aurora wouldn't ordinarily do something like torture to someone else because it's outside her nature. If she had a soul however, than it is possible that she would do something like that.

Some statements I want to respond to specifically:

If we assume that Mab's soul could move up and down the spectrum from bright to dark during her tenure as the winter queen, you basically cheapens the corrupting power of the winter queen's mantle.

Does it cheapen the corrupting power of the coins because you can reject them even after you've excepted them? That seems kind of demeaning to Sanya... 

I like redemption. While Mab getting a small flicker of a soul isn't redemption, it allows for the possibility of it. Not to mention Jim probably doesn't share your thoughts since he put in those strong hints with Mother Summer.

If we assume that interactions with mortals could significantly brightens Mab's soul, and we must assume that it is significant because assumeing little will reduced the effect of moartal interactions itself, then we must assume that once upon a time Mab's soul is a lot darker than her current soul is.

I think that's a whole lot of assumptions.  We don't have any real measuring scale for a soul getting brigher or dimmer. Why are we saying that Mab having feelings towards her daughter means her soul has brightened "significantly"? What does that even mean?

How does assuming less reduce the effect of mortal interactions? Why does it matter if it does? We know from Bob that mortals exchange bits of their souls. We don't have any idea how much though so...?

Mab did exactly one thing against her nature: she had feelings towards her daughter. That's it. I think it's a leap to assume that means her soul is as bright as the average persons.

If a soul that much darker than current Mab is redeemable, than the corruptive influence and the danger of total darkness becomes laughable. Even someone that is in deeper shit than Mab can be redeem, whats to worry about?

I don't think you should really use terms like "corruptive influence", "total darkness", and "redeem". Losing your soul isn't necessarily the same thing as becoming evil. Take a hypothetical half-angel Scion for example (and putting aside the weirdness of angles being made of soul. This is just an example after all). The nature of angels is good, they are the positive good forces of the Dresdenverse. The more the Scion shifts towards becoming an angel, the less able they are to commit evil acts. They still lose their soul though. 

Anyways, it's worrying because why would you want to regain your soul after you lost it (or practically speaking lost it)? In my theory Mab being able to gain a tiny ember of a soul was entirely unintentional. It also possibly took hundreds upon hundreds of years. It may be a difference of opinion but I don't find that laughable.

It sounds possible, but we'd need more information to come up with anything resembling an assessment of likelihood.  It's not grabbing my interest because I'm not seeing all that much in the characterisation of Tehom to make it very different from, say, a union-of-all-Outsiders entity that was called Azathoth; I'm not minded to take the whole "the Outsiders were driven beyond the Outer Gates by powers back in ancient history" bit in GP as plausible because we have a sixty-five-million-year-old tyrannosaur running around the place in DB as living(ish) evidence for the age of the DV being much larger than a human-centric scale. (And possibly also because I have a strong personal preference for multipolar atoreis, including multipolar reads on the DV, than Manichean ones.)

I'm not sure what the bolded part means. Could you elaborate?

And why are Outsiders being driven beyond the Outer Gates by powers back in ancient history and an evolutionary timescale mutually exclusive? 

Man I really need to organize the OP. So much woooorrrrk thoouuugh  . My laziness is kicking my butt. 
 
Nothing much to add. Just hoping to incite some more conversation before the inevitable thread lock (and move to the Recourses section?).

Man I really like this theory but it hasn't gotten much discussion...I'd really like to get it into the Recourse Section.

I do wonder (if this hypothesis is true) if we'll be getting an "attack the darkness!" gag before the series is through  .

So is this thread just for posting stats or are requests acceptable as well?

That's part of it. The Red Court would be totally out of place in Worm, and the PRT would be totally out of place in the Dresden Files.

The psychological importance of trigger events and passengers is another part. Every natural cape has been traumatized, and many of them have weird mental rewiring thanks to their powers.

The atmosphere of the worlds is different too. The Dresdenverse is more mysterious, the Wormverse is more scary. Urban fantasy/noir mystery is different from superhero/horror-thriller.

And the powers manifest differently. The Wormverse is basically materialistic. Your brain is a physical object, your powers are physical effects. The Dresdenverse is more spiritual. You work magic with your will, and you've actually got a soul. DF heavyweights have all kinds of metaphysical weight, while Wormverse heavyweights basically just punch really really hard.

Huh...interesting stuff to ponder. Though I never really thought of Worm as a horror story. I mean its got horrifying things in it yeah but those seem like more of a strong side dish. It's kind of like if someone wrote a story set in some third world, war torn country. Horrible and scary things are done in those countries every day but I don't think you'd classify a book that had those things as a "horror" story. The Dresdenverse could easily have that kind of horror, we just don't see it because Jim doesn't want to write that stuff (by WoJ).   

I did Cherish already.

Jack, Night, and Crawler should all be pretty easy.

Mannequin and Fog will probably be a bit trickier, but nothing I can't handle.

Hatchet Face and the Siberian are too hard, though. No can do.
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Whoops, forgot about that  .

Thanks again  .

Random thought: I kinda wonder what the worm characters would be like if you translated them over to the DF setting? What would they be? Rachel as some sort of focused practioner who can buff up anyone but chooses to only do so on dogs? Taylor as a neuromancer who's weak enough that she can only take control of simple minds like insects and crabs? Grue as a Hob changeling (though that doesn't really fit with his body and looks)? A DFRPG game set in a city where a group of "low powered" talents ( ) have taken over after the fall of the Red Court could be fun.